30 6:00 michelle dewberry and this is dewbs & c0 the show where this is dewbs& co the show where we'll get into some of the things that have got you talking today and now strikes are happening all around at the happening all around us at the moment. aren't they? now, with this outrage, though , because this outrage, though, because rishi is introducing or trying to at least what many are calling say strike laws calling and say strike laws where basically it has to have minimum service levels in sectors like health, for example. is he right or is he wrong ? and get this, the latest wrong? and get this, the latest census question, does all of the first time about our gender identity and it seems, of course , have a million people, but it would be much more actually if you did it again as of right now. but anyway, quarter of a million people as of then identify it as a different gender from their sex fast. what do you think is going on and to say though, ever let it be said

that we don't get into the big corporates stuff here on gb news. i want to talk to you tonight is fraud after all about the elgin marbles? the row has rumbled on for centuries. i'm asking, do you think it's time to give them back or not? and oh, you know me. if you watch the show often, don't you? i cannot bear talking about the lunacy that is prince harry and his recent antics. but one of my panels and i it looks an awful lot like him, so i thought it'd be a bit rude if i didn't get into that story. i'm joined tonight by paul embery and alex steyn. we'll get into all of that and but before i do that and more. but before i do so, bring ourselves up to so, let's bring ourselves up to speed with the latest speed with tonight the latest headunes. speed with tonight the latest headlines . michel, thank you. headlines. michel, thank you. good evening. it's 6:10. i'm bethany elsey in the gb newsroom. a senior taliban leader is hit back at prince harry saying the militants he claims to have killed in afghanistan were not chess pieces. they were humans . he was

pieces. they were humans. he was responding to revelation from the duke of sussex's memoir , the duke of sussex's memoir, spare, in which he admits to killing 25 taliban fighters while he was a helicopter pilot . the book is due to be published next week, but mistakenly went on sale in spain yesterday . in it, prince harry yesterday. in it, prince harry also reveals he found out his grandmother, queen elizabeth, had died via a news website and not from his family. royal expert charles ray says the boot could be the end of harry's relationship with the royal family is our machine gun revelations and accusations . and revelations and accusations. and it is just staggering that he's come out with all this stuff. i mean it to a point of being disgusting with some of the revelations. i don't believe that harry is ever going to be forgiven for doing what he's done with this book. i mean , the done with this book. i mean, the documentaries and the oprah winfrey were bad enough. but this book is way out. there really is . ambulance members really is. ambulance members with the union unite have announced a new strike date on the 23rd of january and a

dispute over pay. more than 2600 ambulance workers in the west midlands, north—west, north—east east midlands and wales will be involved in the walkout . it's involved in the walkout. it's amid rising flu cases and record high ambulance handover delays. over 40% of patients waited more than half an hour to be transferred to a&e last week. one in average of 5000 flu patients were in hospital. that's up 47% on the previous week. while the prime minister hasianed week. while the prime minister has invited union leaders to meet with him to discuss pay on monday , rishi sunak says he monday, rishi sunak says he hopes for a grown up conversation about what's affordable. it comes as passengers experience the fourth consecutive day of train strikes and a dispute overjobs pay and conditions. only 20% of services operating as normal . but mr. operating as normal. but mr. sunak says the government will try and ensure some services continue during industrial action . we're going to bring action. we're going to bring forward new laws in common with countries like france , italy,

countries like france, italy, spain and others that ensure that we have minimum levels of safety in critical areas like fire, like ambulance , so that fire, like ambulance, so that even when strikes are going on, you know that your health will be protected. i think that's entirely reasonable and that's what our new laws will do. well, the rmt general secretary mick lynch says he doesn't think the new proposals will work . they've new proposals will work. they've also lost the argument on the existing nanny trade union laws because every union is defeating them by mass ballots. them by having mass ballots. they want the action they want to make the action that comes out of those ballots virtually illegal . that comes out of those ballots virtually illegal. i don't think is going to i don't think is going to work. i don't think they what they're they understand what they're doing quoting what doing and they keep quoting what goes france and spain and goes on in france and spain and all the of the world. these all the rest of the world. these these have been these laws have never been enforced countries, and enforced in those countries, and they're enacted in same they're not enacted in the same way grant is trying way that grant shapps is trying to bring in. police in scotland have named two women and a man who died in a fire at a hotel in perth. donna france . van perth. donna france. van rensburg. sharon mclean and keith russell were killed in the blaze at new county hotel in the

early hours of monday morning. the two women are sisters from aberdeen and the man was originally from edinburgh . don originally from edinburgh. don is three year old king charles spaniel, also died in the fire. the investigation into the cause is ongoing and a postman who killed his girlfriend's 18 month old son has been jailed for nine years. a 24 year old and scott was found guilty of assaulting andrew cocker before killing him in 2019. the child's mother, tamika beaten, was found guilty of child cruelty by neglecting to protect her son and given a 12 month sentence. the us president will mark the second anniversary of the attack on the us capitol with an award ceremony at the white house. president joe biden will award 12 people with the presidential citizen's medal, one of the country's highest honours for civilians. it will be given to law enforcement officers. election workers. state and local officials. it follows a mob of donald trump supporters

who stormed the building in a failed bid to block congress from certifying the 2020 election . and former chelsea election. and former chelsea striker and manager gianluca vialli has died from cancer at the age of 58. viola earned 59 caps for italy and won the champions league with juventus before joining chelsea in 1996. he was the first italian to take charge of a premier league side becoming blues manager in 1998. you're up to date on tv , online you're up to date on tv, online and dab, plus radio. this is tv news. now it's back to dewbs& co . news. now it's back to dewbs& co. th while i'm keeping you company right through until 7:00 this evening and alongside may have got to political consultant alex dean and the fireman and proud trade unionist and author paul and britt. good evening. good

evening to you. happy new year. the fact is they knew this year and you know the drill. don't you?ifs and you know the drill. don't you? it's not just about. well, sorry it's about at sorry here. it's about you at home what's on your home as well. what's on your mind tonight? i your mind tonight? i want your thoughts the things that thoughts on all the things that will be getting into, whether it's strikes and the new so—called strike laws, the so—called anti strike laws, the whole agenda thing that whole kind of agenda thing that was the in the sense this of was on the in the sense this of most recent census this apparently quarter of a million people the gender people don't identify the gender with by a sex. with that by a logical sex. what's going on with that one and also seen as our look at it . paul embery, you've got to admit, haven't you, everyone, that it does look a lot like prince had you could prince harry had you could moonlight. i think , as a harry moonlight. i think, as a harry lookalike and make a small fortune so unfair to israel's ten years old. by the way, you could still get away with it some of these lookalikes i've seen, i mean, you see them, you're like, what? who wants people blind anyway? i do think you look a lot him for that you look a lot like him for that reason. that reason only reason. and that reason only i am going to indulge the whole harry thing for a little at harry thing for a little bit at the end the show. if you're

the end of the show. if you're a regular viewer, you will i regular viewer, you will know i have little interest that have so little interest in that topic and story is just beyond ridiculous now. but just for you , shall it before the , i shall indulge it before the end the programme. in end of the programme. get in touch with all your thoughts. gb views gb news dukes the email or you can tweet me gb news. you can tweet me at gb news. lots of you have been getting involved already . michelle says involved already. michelle says , tony, these are not anti strike laws. stop calling them not people can still strike. but this is all about putting the pubuc this is all about putting the public first. i will be coming on to that story in just a second. what else are you getting in touch with? oh, you're saying about the look in marbles. you're saying give them their proper name. michelle elgin marbles. they go, elgin marbles. well, they go, i think is going to think this is going to span a spoon quite an interesting topic. carol says this argument has on for years. they're has gone on for years. they're not they're not ours . give them not they're not ours. give them back. and anyway , who cares? back. and anyway, who cares? i found that an interesting question. who does care? do you care about the elgin marbles? the argument rumbled on for centuries, quite frankly. is that your thing or not? and one

of the things that always makes me laugh very much is you guys critique thing the way that i look. i find it fascinating . look. i find it fascinating. nigel says i look very posh tonight in my jacket. i appreciate that, nigel . oh, lots appreciate that, nigel. oh, lots of other people do agree . ken of other people do agree. ken says the jacket michelle wearing tonight makes you look like a sofa. someone else has said, finally, we've discovered where my mother's velvet curtains from the eighties went . they've been the eighties went. they've been turned into a jacket for michelle. i love this. one of these days, i'm going to get you guys to send me your outfit so i can critique it in return. it's only fair, isn't it? if you're listening, not watching, just take it from me. i look fantastic. basically all right, let's into top story. let's get into our top story. shall we strike x strikes and more strikes? you noticed more strikes? have you noticed that you? well, that all around you? well, richard apparently he's richard sunak apparently he's going and get top of going to try and get on top of some this going forward with some of this going forward with the anti strike law. so that so—called basically what it would mean is that unions would have continue or at least go have to continue or at least go on provide a minimum level of on to provide a minimum level of service. would be, for service. that would be, for example , things like health

example, things like the health industry, would be beyond industry, but it would be beyond it be beyond that it would be beyond that transport, nuclear industry transport, the nuclear industry and so on and so forth. our quote straight to the chest poll . do you support these laws ? no, . do you support these laws? no, they're not laws . yeah. but, you they're not laws. yeah. but, you know, i mean, that's the proposal. and i think all it's going to do is inflame the situation. we already have . situation. we already have. let's not forget some of the most restrictive trade union laws in this laws in the world in this country. if rishi sunak and the government think that effectively forcing union members to abandon a strike for which they have democratically voted and walk across picket lines to provide a service while their colleagues are still on their colleagues are still on the picket line outside . and the picket line outside. and frankly, rishi sunak does not understand the essence of trade unionism. he does not understand the principle of worker solidarity . i the principle of worker solidarity. i do the principle of worker solidarity . i do not know and solidarity. i do not know and i've been on strike as a firefighter in a union member. i do not know any colleague, any

fellow union member who would walk across a picket line in an attempt to undermine the strike that we are undertaking. so rather than resorting to these kind of measures, which frankly are going to take industrial relations in this country back to a period of over 100 years ago or more , where there were ago or more, where there were very few workplace rights, where the idea of taking industrial action at all was in what was regarded as kind of inherent, illegitimate . that's not the way illegitimate. that's not the way to resolve these strikes, the way to resolve the strikes is to recognise that the people taking the picket lines have got a genuine grievance. they're being asked to pay for a financial crisis. they didn't create and to reach settlements in those sectors and to reach a fair settlement. so you do you think, work of solidarity and the whole union mentality, the whole scalp thing and all the rest of it. do you think that's more important than public safety? well i think you could you could make that case about any strike, couldn't you? mean, you could you? i mean, you could you could effectively a case. i'm effectively make a case. i'm asking question. do you

asking the question. do you think worker solidarity is more important safety? important than public safety? well, michel, well, the question is, michel, who's that public who's undermining that public safety place? it's safety in the first place? it's not that's not my question. my question that's question is no, but that's solidarity. that's my solidarity. but that's my question is worker solidarity more important than public safety? the implicit within your question is the idea that public safety is being jeopardised by the people taking strike action. and is what i'm saying? and what is what i'm saying? actually, key point is, is actually, the key point is, is the fact that they're taking strike action and the grounds on which taking strike which they're taking strike action, legitimate or not. and it's legitimate because it's clearly legitimate because you're my you're not going to answer my question. i didn't actually. you're not going to answer my qjustion. i didn't actually. you're not going to answer my qjust didn't i didn't actually. you're not going to answer my qjust didn't answer 't actually. you're not going to answer my qjust didn't answer it actually. you're not going to answer my qjust didn't answer it intually. you're not going to answer my qjust didn't answer it in the .y. i just didn't answer it in the way me to answer, way you wanted me to answer, because because. because the alternative, therefore, to alternative, therefore, is to say must say to workers, okay, you must never because if never fight back because if you're in an industry which could potentially on could impact potentially on pubuc could impact potentially on public then you've got public safety, then you've got to what government tells to do what the government tells you you've got to you every time. you've got to accept the government accept what the government throws or employer throws at you or the employer throws at you or the employer throws at you or the employer throws at you. you've got to accept got suffer from accept you've got to suffer from accept you've got to suffer from a the judge. and a question from the judge. and there's you can do about there's nothing you can do about it. at stage. i hadn't it. at this stage. i hadn't expected to about something expected to talk about something

else but else on the strikes, but listening to there's listening to paul, there's something a flip side something there's a flip side to the he made about the argument he just made about solidarity, is there's solidarity, which is there's something sinister to something slightly sinister to that. know anybody that. if you don't know anybody who to cross who might be willing to cross the line, it does suggest the picket line, it does suggest that than just that rather than just solidarity, there might be an element bullying those who element of bullying of those who people scabs or are people have called scabs or are willing to go back to work or think that the deal good think that the deal is good enough to return to enough and wants to return to work. that's flip side work. and that's the flip side of this union discussion of some of this union discussion . after all, of the three . after all, two of the three rail was one of the rail unions was one of the strike areas been talking strike areas we've been talking about recently have voted to return. but mick lynch is effectively them hostage return. but mick lynch is effeisaying, them hostage return. but mick lynch is effeisaying, no, them hostage return. but mick lynch is effeisaying, no, no them hostage return. but mick lynch is effeisaying, no, no ,hem hostage return. but mick lynch is effeisaying, no, no , i'm hostage return. but mick lynch is effeisaying, no, no , i'm willinge and saying, no, no, i'm willing to strike until the summer. now put into the context of put that into the context of a band of brothers, of solidarity in the way that paul describes things. the fire service or elsewhere. you know, it's it would lot of guts to say, would take a lot of guts to say, actually, to cross actually, i'm willing to cross the line . in fact, you're the picket line. in fact, you're more we've seen with more likely, as we've seen with some to leave to some postal workers, to leave to say, forget it, i'm actually , say, forget it, i'm actually, you use these words . i you know, use these words. i might not put it in these terms, but bullied, but i'm getting bullied, actually, say that i'm you actually, to say that i'm you know, one us. if you

know, i'm not one of us. if you don't stay with the strike. and i think that's quite concerning. anyway, think the issue anyway, i think the bigger issue here that are here isn't the laws that are being by government. being proposed by government. i think biggest here is think the biggest issue here is what is touches on what i've just said is trying to ensure that the leaders of strikes actually represent the views of those on whose behalf, their supposed they are taught something mick lynch, you know , something mick lynch, you know, socially willing to strike, you know , indefinitely . is that what know, indefinitely. is that what its members really want? and i think in a democracy we should try to ensure that our unions are truly democratic. paul calls that , you know, tight are truly democratic. paul calls that, you know, tight union laws. i just call it basic fairness. you can't you can't support alex, the principle of union democracy only when it suits you because you think, oh , there might be a deal, that the members will be prepared to accept. leadership are accept. and the leadership are not vote on not letting them vote on it, which think is true, by which i don't think is true, by the i think all the the way. i think all the evidence shows that the rmt members behind the members are massively behind the leadership this. but in terms

leadership on this. but in terms of picket why don't you of picket lines, why don't you extend argument extend your argument about democracy to picket lines? because ultimately, if at the end of the day, you as a union member have taken part in a democratic ballot to take strike action, now , it may well be that action, now, it may well be that action, now, it may well be that a minority of members didn't necessarily agree with that decision, but that doesn't automatically say that in principle , it's right to break principle, it's right to break the strike and to walk across the strike and to walk across the picket line. if you join a union and agree to take part in its internal democracy and the majority of members vote for a democratic ballot, you're attacking a membership . i attacking a full membership. i never for the things that never argued for the things that you did. no, you are suggesting i did. no, i didn't . i said that it was using didn't. i said that it was using menacing prospect. there menacing prospect. i think there was something about you was something menacing about you saying that you can't imagine we'd known anyone we'd have known anyone who wanted. somebody wanted. do you think somebody who with the who doesn't agree with the strike, nonetheless, union strike, but nonetheless, union member supporter now member and supporter and now across ironically , you're now across ironically, you're now asking i the view you asking me if i hold the view you already ascribe to me, which the answer is no. i think the government is entitled to new people, to come people, union members, to come in your job. so do in and do yourjob. so you do

agree that shouldn't cross agree that you shouldn't cross picket on that? agree that you shouldn't cross pick shouldn't. on that? agree that you shouldn't cross pickshouldn't. i on that? agree that you shouldn't cross pickshouldn't. i believe that? you shouldn't. i believe in luiz's consent unions as luiz's consent in unions as i believe unions. you lose this believe in unions. you lose this consent in democracy. disagree consent in democracy. i disagree with of you that if with the pair of you that if somebody is not, they've joined the union. they perhaps i don't know, they might have voted in the first round, perhaps, but not in the second round. it's gone on a too long and gone on a bit too long and actually i'm over it now. i want to change my mind. i do think actually that they've got the right able to say no. i'm right to be able to say no. i'm going to a circumstance going back to a circumstance says need money. i can't says i need the money. i can't afford lost earning days. afford more lost earning days. i'm going to cross that because they haven't have a legal they haven't they have a legal right it. by law, right to do it. and by law, there's that a trade there's nothing that a trade union do terms of union can do in terms of sanctioning a who chooses sanctioning a member who chooses to you take action to do so. you take action outside law. well, no, outside of the law. well, no, i'm suggesting, you know, i'm not suggesting, you know, but i'm simply making the point that belong to a that if you belong to a democratic organisation, which is take industrial is voted to take industrial action, action, action, strike action, then as a member of that organisation who took part in ballot, you took part in the ballot, you should respect that it should respect that vote. it seems me a simple that seems to me to be a simple that point that point is point is that point is a reasonable one that you do you

test a government at your peril as ronald reagan showed when the air controllers went air traffic controllers went on strike united states, strike in the united states, thinking they could hold thinking that they could hold government to ransom. reagan thinking that they could hold gothe|ment to ransom. reagan thinking that they could hold gothe end t to ransom. reagan thinking that they could hold gothe end dismissed n. reagan thinking that they could hold gothe end dismissed them reagan thinking that they could hold gothe end dismissed them and|gan in the end dismissed them and appointed me people to run air traffic control. let's talk about the government about the areas the government is with these is talking about with these proposals. that whilst proposals. i think that whilst we agree that people have a right to withdraw their labour, i think there's an interesting question. when you sign up to work a vital service, i think work in a vital service, i think you have to accept certain things. idea, for example, things. the idea, for example, that a that qualified staff at a nuclear facility in this country should in theory, able to should in theory, be able to walk masse. is a crazy walk out en masse. is a crazy proposition to me because they cannot be immediately replaced for safety purposes. and if collectively we are in a soup, thanks to strikers, you can ask the much put upon squad to drive a van. you cannot ask him to run the power station to its logical conclusion. if your position , conclusion. if your position, alex essentially is that workers, even during a cost of living crisis when inflation is at nine or 10% or whatever and

they've been offered two or 3, and they're really struggling to make ends meet, to pay their mortgages, to pay their energy bills. they've gone through a democratic voted democratic ballot. they've voted , industrial action, your , saying industrial action, your whole argument is actually work , is you should be forced to accept the offer that's on the table the employer the table from the employer or the government, you seem to government, because you seem to think in principle, strike think that in principle, strike action certainly action is wrong. and certainly in cases that have been in the cases that have been highlighted, action is highlighted, strike action is wrong. so in other words, force workers accept what is on the workers to accept what is on the table in front of them and if they do try to fight back, as in this case if democratic this case if i democratic ballots and smashed those ballots and have smashed those ballots and have smashed those ballots they're to ballots and they're taken to their lines their their picket lines in their thousands , you know what we'll thousands, you know what we'll do? we changed halfway do? we changed the rules halfway through the light boxing match where you know, the other person's blow on you person's landing a blow on you dunng person's landing a blow on you during we'll fight during what we'll make in fight with behind his back. with one hand behind his back. that's argument. with one hand behind his back. tha'it argument. with one hand behind his back. tha'it isn't. argument. with one hand behind his back. tha'it isn't. my. argument. with one hand behind his back. tha'it isn't. my. i argument. with one hand behind his back. tha'it isn't. my. i don't|ment. with one hand behind his back. tha'it isn't. my. i don't agree no, it isn't. my. i don't agree with the government on it ehhen with the government on it either. you've spent a lot of time telling people what time telling other people what they view is that we they think. my view is that we shouldn't allow areas to shouldn't allow certain areas to unionise union correct? unionise so even union correct? so just strike but to

so not just not to strike but to even belong there some even belong to. there were some areas i allow to areas i wouldn't allow to unionise when you unionise correct. when you go on strike as firefighter, just strike as a firefighter, just help. is understand what help. my view is understand what kind service women save you kind of service women save you guys. you all about it. you're off you go. you say if you're in your union, you've got a date to that strike. respect it. what kind service level remains? kind of service level remains? well, the the well, on the under the legislation governing the fire service, the 2004 fire and rescue services act , every local rescue services act, every local fire because obviously fire authority because obviously there's a national fire service, except scotland, the rest except in scotland, but the rest of uk is divided up into the of the uk is divided up into the local fire services and they are required to provide a contingency service event contingency service in the event of no operational service not being . so a pandemic being available. so a pandemic industrial . and so what industrial action. and so what they do is contract it out they often do is contract it out to a private company who would bnngin to a private company who would bring in a minimum service. years ago, you see the old green goddesses as the army come in, but really happen but that doesn't really happen any they will often any more, or they will often rely few senior officers rely on a few senior officers walking across picket lines and undermining the strike . how do undermining the strike. how do you feel as a striking fire officer as you look and see a fire? well i mean, i certainly

don't know anybody who if they were on a picket line during a foster fight and saw a fire taking place over the road, would not leave, maybe that was too maybe you can't see too literal. maybe you can't see it. a report of it. it. you got a report of it. would you go and put it out? oh, look, if again, i don't know if i don't know a single firefighter who were firefighter who if they were told that was a fire that told that there was a fire that they could attend they that they could attend because a report is reached, then. so what's their point of view? the view? strike well, because the whole point of the strike is those reports don't made to those reports don't get made to the fire station because the local fire station because they've labour. the local fire station because thei 've labour. the local fire station because thei don't labour. the local fire station because thei don't think labour. the local fire station because thei don't think that labour. the local fire station because thei don't think that situation'. so i don't think that situation would government would ever say the government should just sending the should just keep sending the calls you put them out. calls and then you put them out. yeah, they go, you fix that, you fix what fix this, right? what professions or sectors, industries, do you industries, whatever do you think shouldn't allowed think shouldn't be allowed unionised? well, the people who run that run nuclear power stations, that was that the was my example. that was the one that in service. no. and that was in my service. no. and i almost every other i like almost every other service health service i'd allowed to health service. of course you able service. and of course you able to strike. i don't think the critical life saving services should go on should be allowed to go on strike. i would strike. so i would say a firefighter shouldn't be able to amass already can't. but

amass police already can't. but police, firefighters and ambulance crews , nurses, etc, ambulance crews, nurses, etc, i don't think it should be allowed. let me throw this back to you in the show in circumstances where, okay, you may not agree with the current wave of strike action, but in circumstances where you felt that workers in those essential services were being dealt a rough deal and they had exhausted negotiations that gone through every hoop that had been put before them, and still the government or the employer was not willing to make a reasonable offer. the logical conclusion that just saw there is that you just saw out there is just it up, guys. there's just suck it up, guys. there's nothing you can do about it. yeah, it's the ultimate weapon is go into those kind is when you go into those kind of services , i imagine i'm not of services, i imagine i'm not in them . so you tell me. but in them. so you tell me. but i imagine that you choose that as a vocation as opposed to a way and means to get wealthy. so and a means to get wealthy. so i think that when you go into lots of those vocations, you already appreciate, actually, i'm not going to be a jeff bezos type and any time soon. so i would appreciate salary appreciate the salary restrictions on entering that

profession. point one. point two, if it got to the point where i really and truly i felt, actually, this is too much, i can't afford to live. i think a lot of firefighters have second jobs anyway. i suspect very often that's not our choice. to be fair, it's because they're struggling to get by and they feel the need to supplement their but if it their income. but then if it really too much, i would really got too much, i would leave a different leave and go get a different job. yeah but it's easier said than done, it? i mean, in than done, isn't it? i mean, in a where we're a situation where we're just about recession, just about to enter a recession, just telling when they've got telling people when they've got mortgages and families, i'll just and go find just leave and go and find anotherjob. really just leave and go and find another job. really isn't another job. it really isn't that simple. i mean, don't underestimate the anguish that firefighters and other essential workers they workers go through when they take let's take this action. then let's talk anguish, because talk about that anguish, because you're you're not you're not just you're not comparing, know, sunshine comparing, you know, sunshine rises rises anguish rises and pay rises with anguish felt emergency workers. the felt by emergency workers. the flipside strike is let's flipside to your strike is let's remove it from the personal. the flip a health care flip side of a health care strike that it's impossible strike is that it's impossible to imagine it won't have a bad effect patient outcomes if effect on patient outcomes if ambulance nurses ambulance drivers and nurses strike. impossible to think strike. it's impossible to think that not going to because that you're not going to because because what they right.

because of what they do. right. we spend all this time rightly saying they do is so saying what they do is so important people. important and good for people. it's impossible think it's impossible to think withdrawal labour won't withdrawal of their labour won't have on have a negative impact on members the public they members of the public as they are have accidents. are sick or have accidents. well, what you're actually well, so what you're actually measuring for more measuring is the demand for more money on the one hand and bad patient outcomes on the other. so, but but so, you know, but but ultimately, know, might ultimately, you know, it might not nobody that not tricky nobody in that essential whatever the essential service whatever the essential service whatever the essential services , takes that essential services, takes that decision mean , going decision lightly. i mean, going back point, michelle, back to your point, michelle, where you say, well, when you enter you know what enter the service, you know what the restrictions are the salary restrictions are actually during the course of your service, salary in real your service, the salary in real terms might go down significantly own significantly. in my own industry, example, fire industry, for example, the fire and people's and rescue service, people's salaries of the average firefighter over the ten or firefighter over the last ten or so years has lost more than £4,000 in real terms, in their salary. so whatever the situation was when they joined the situation is getting progressively worse now in a situation where you a cost of situation where you in a cost of living crisis and impending recession, sign recession, there's no sign of any of this stuff improving. they're going to find it harder and ends meet and and harder to make ends meet and

pay and harder to make ends meet and pay bills. i think pay their bills. i just think it's naive extreme and it's naive in the extreme and unreasonable to expect them just to read it. to say i'm sure they'll read it. reassure person who for whom reassure the person who for whom the doesn't that the ambulance doesn't come that they've person was going to drive thought about and drive it, thought about it. and the tells us the truth is, history tells us that advance is made that actually advance is made for working people. for ordinary working people. throughout of largely throughout the years of largely come result of people come about as a result of people having to fight them, take having to fight for them, take the through the the picket lines through the trade that's trade union campaigning. that's what decent what gets people with decent pay increases and decent conditions of like different of service like a different opinions, opinions . what opinions, strong opinions. what do on that matter? i get opinions, strong opinions. what do tell on that matter? i get opinions, strong opinions. what do tell me.)n that matter? i get opinions, strong opinions. what do tell me. vaiews@gbnews.uk in. tell me. vaiews@gbnews.uk uk is the email address. in. tell me. vaiews@gbnews.uk uk is the email address . i'm uk is the email address. i'm going to take a quick break. when i come back and have some of your responses to that topic . but i want to talk to you . but i also want to talk to you as about just how many as well about just how many people have decided people suddenly have decided that is completely that their agenda is completely odds with biological sex. odds with a biological sex. what's going on? you tell me and i'll you went to .

hello welcome back to dewbs & co hello welcome back to dewbs& co with me. michelle dewberry right through until 7:00 this evening. alongside me, the political consultant alex deane on the financial trade unionist and author paul embery . welcome author paul embery. welcome back, everybody. lots of you guys getting in touch about that last conversation. we were just talking strikes, the so—called anti strike laws, etc. richard says, michel , you anti strike laws, etc. richard says, michel, you can anti strike laws, etc. richard says, michel , you can see anti strike laws, etc. richard says, michel, you can see mick lynch knows the momentum is slowing down and public support is starting to crack. and when inflation starts to plunge, so will his position . lots and lots will his position. lots and lots of you , robert, says. michel, of you, robert, says. michel, when you ask paul if he thinks the military should be allowed to strike briefly, paul should the military bail out strike ? i the military bail out strike? i haven't thought of that, particularly in any great that's previously. but i'm happy to give it some some thought . it's give it some some thought. it's going to get better. you'll get the answer. no isn't it? the answer is no. the army. i'm not going to a knee jerk response to that. that would require a lot

of thought. instinctively, i would see every sector would like to see every sector unionised to unionised with the right to strike, but understand in strike, but i understand in extreme really extreme circumstance really extremists might be extremists might not be possible. but let me give that some thought and i'll get back to we will. he's going to give it so he'll ponder it. alex says, no. i say, absolutely not. what guys say, though? what do you guys say, though? malcolm says a customer malcolm says as a customer paying malcolm says as a customer paying service from a paying for a service from a pubuc i paying for a service from a public i expect public sector, i expect a minimum service to be provided simple as that, says malcolm . simple as that, says malcolm. lots of you guys getting in such as well about the elgin marbles will come to that in just a few minutes . jason though says band minutes. jason though says band imagines is services from striking completely michelle and off he says the prison officers and police can't strike so why the heck should the rest be allowed to ? i don't know. you allowed to? i don't know. you tell me . lots of you also tell me. lots of you also getting in touch about this next topic that i'm about to get into, which is the whole census 2021 census for the first time ever was asking you the question about your gender identity. it was voluntary , i have to say,

was voluntary, i have to say, but a lot of people responded to it anyway. long story short, there's about a quarter of a million people actually in england and wales that say that they identify as a different gender their biological sex. gender to their biological sex. alec assaults . i think alec stein assaults. i think that's probably despite the results of this , the census , i results of this, the census, i think we're probably going past peak trends. i think that we've gone beyond the point at which people are able to use this as a rhetorical device in the public space and get their way without further discussion. i think that the notion that someone can declare themselves going from sex to sex, be and be treated uncritically as if that's true, is no longer the case. and so i think that whilst the number of people saying that this in the census has obviously gone up, i think that in the other hand , think that in the other hand, those who and there's going to be a vanishingly small group of people in society who genuinely need help and recognition. but for people, they've for those people, they've achieved that. everything that they has been achieved . for

they need has been achieved. for those who seek to destroy all meaning language or you know, meaning in language or you know, so you can't say what a woman is anymore. or b those who wish to you be able to use a man's advantages to dominate women's sports . or men that sports. or they see men that wish to enter women's spaces . i wish to enter women's spaces. i think the game is up so notwithstanding this result, i as i say, i think we've gone beyond peak trans in society. well, i'm very well. let's call a spade a spade. it's bonkers, isn't it. that's be blunt about it. and i think the average man and women on the street see it as bonkers. i think the kind of radical progressives who are not majority in our country, but by any stretch, but nonetheless wield such influence , are wield such influence, are completely out of step with the views of the men on the clapham omnibus. the man in the dog and duck, you know, whatever, whatever comparator you want to use, i suspect there's a certain element of social contagion going on as well. it almost seems there's a bit like nowadays, a bit of a fashion

accessory . you know, this kind accessory. you know, this kind of attempt to abolish the principle effects . if we, you principle effects. if we, you know, abolish the principle of biological sex for some people, i think for a particular generation, that kind of buying into it because they see something fashionable, rather the notion that they might really feel true parents . i feel really feel true parents. i feel it's so worrying because the nofion it's so worrying because the notion that biological sex doesn't exist is as absurd as flat earth ism, which is which is a fringe position, adopted by some people in the united states who demand to be heard and demand to have their voice listened to in our media in recent years, it has become utterly mainstream for a position ridiculous as position as ridiculous as flat—earth and to prevail. and that's why i see with that's how i say sort of that's why i say we've gone beyond peak trans because it's not treated uncritically anymore. then how do square that circle? and do you square that circle? and if reckon gone past if you reckon we've gone past peak in scotland, you peak trans in scotland, you would that they've would have seen that they've just passed now , which just passed this bill now, which basically says if go basically says if you go and live for weeks as your as live for a few weeks as your as

different gender, then there you go. bob's your uncle are now that different gender will look at the reaction, the public reaction to once in a time reaction to it once in a time people were afraid say people were too afraid to say anything about yeah, it anything about this. yeah, it was. it was raised. that was it. you weren't permitted more was. it was raised. that was it. yo say. ren't permitted more was. it was raised. that was it. yo say. you permitted more was. it was raised. that was it. yo say. you know, tted more was. it was raised. that was it. yo say. you know, tuesday more was. it was raised. that was it. yo say. you know, tuesday comes to say. you know, tuesday comes after yes. that's i after monday. yes. that's i think that some the political class in this country is behind the popular will. sometimes politics has to climate change politics has to climate change politics led to public opinion politics. we drove the discussion and said we need to do this when maybe the majority of the public weren't at the same mind. but on this , the same mind. but on this, the political class are mouthing things that are several years now out of date, i think. and i think that's been an overreach from, if you like, the trans community and their supporters. once upon a time, a few years ago, the demands were fairly limited. i think the limited. and i think the mainstream population, even if they necessarily see any they didn't necessarily see any logic what was being argued, logic to what was being argued, they said, well, they're a small minority let's not minority of people, let's not kick fuss. but as the kick up a fuss. but as the demands became more and more outlandish and more strident and

strident then so if you like, mainstream britain decided to say, well, actually we're going to push back against some of this stuff because it's got real implications for women's security. for example , women's security. for example, women's privacy, security in public places, in the workplace. and so on.andi places, in the workplace. and so on. and i think, you know, they've overplayed their hand. and as a result of that, there's now going to be a massive reaction . and i agree with that. reaction. and i agree with that. and the reaction is and i suspect the reaction is only going to going one way. only going to be going one way. now, think argument in now, i think the argument in terms you know, the kind terms of the you know, the kind of extreme and of gender extreme ism and fundamentalism has been defeated that the argument they don't realise it yet but they've lost the argument. i think it's only going to go in one direction. i'm not sure agree with you i'm not sure i agree with you because ms. i was with all because chris ms. i was with all of and among which was of my family and among which was a nieces, nephews, a couple of my nieces, nephews, whatever. so age is about 12, 14 and we had this conversation. i mean, foolish who gets into this kind of conversation after a few beers? that's me, not the kids. but anyway, the kids was telling me in their schools, all of me that in their schools, all of

them had examples of, i don't know, they used to have a classmate called henry and now they've briefed . school is they've been briefed. school is being side and now being taken to a side and now henry's. what are we what henry's. and what are we what are we doing to children? well, my like you, god my point is, like you, god is a sickness. i know we're past peak times are these child, right? my family not family members. and they're not unique. they're the unique. i'm sure they're the kids were adamant. yes. kids were adamant. yes, yes. michelle henry is . but you you michelle henry is. but you you come back saying . yes. and you come back saying. yes. and you can't rationalism and can't but reality and sooner or later people who are peddling this stuff and people who believe in it. yes like that young generation of reality see generation of kids, reality see will eventually hit them in the face. that's the truth. but you can't forever get away with a situation constantly situation where you constantly put facts sooner put feelings on the facts sooner or reality is going or later, reality is going to bite and might a few years, bite and it might a few years, but think it's going to but i think it's going to happen.the but i think it's going to happen. the kind of people you talk of, people talk of, young people you're talking will to talking about, will live to change on this as change their views on this as the contemporaries been the contemporaries who have been indulged and indulged in a phase and therefore, you what? we therefore, you know what? we would written off a would once have written off as a phase or a tomboy or phase or being a tomboy or whatever. yeah. instead saying

right, i'm going you as right, i'm going to give you as a life changing amounts of a child life changing amounts of medication you will medication from which you will not to normality not recover back to normality and will not be regarded as and that will not be regarded as the anymore. and the kind the norm anymore. and the kind of generation talking of generation you're talking about see the about will live to see the regret it. well, let me regret about it. well, let me know thoughts home. many know your thoughts at home. many of getting in touch. of you getting in touch. michael's in touch and michael's been in touch and said, how patronising said, michelle, how patronising are you? just because people choose to be a nurse doesn't make it okay to pay them poorly. he's referring to our conversation early on when i was just saying that actually i think if you work in like an emergency service, for example, i don't think you should be able to go on strike. that's to not say, by the way, that i think that i am everyone should be paid just suck up. paid poorly and just suck it up. i not at all. but i don't think not at all. but surely, isn't there a balance? i don't know. alisa has been in contact saying you'll guess a pair facts tonight. so contact saying you'll guess a pairfacts tonight. so i respect pair facts tonight. so i respect both alex i also both paul and alex and i also think should have his own think alex should have his own show is alicia mum by any show. is alicia your mum by any chance? know who this chance? i don't know who this woman view is, but i like it. i accept, theresa, says michelle,

all struggling . you strikers are all struggling. you strikers are making it so much harder. you're very well paid and you're just greedy . well, when it comes to greedy. well, when it comes to train drivers, that's got to be right. 70. okay, start . hold train drivers, that's got to be right. 70. okay, start. hold on a second here. people always go by. is not having it theresa. people always go to the extreme example because they know that if they were to go to the average example, would average example, it would undermine their argument that train constitute a very, train drivers constitute a very, very, very tiny proportion of the number of workers who are on strike at the moment. even with the rmt strike, the majority are who work in the offices, work on the cleaners, office the stations, cleaners, office clerks, for example. so the idea that all of these people are kind of breaking in they're kind of breaking in and they're just out get more money than just out to get more money than they that i mean they already earn, that i mean that's a non i understood , i that's a non i understood, i understand the rhetoric, but i think, you know, we will see many of us will do. you were just talking about reality coming back to bite. will coming back to bite. we will recall aslef holding this country to ransom year after yeah country to ransom year after year. just drivers. well, they go the agenda thing and says

go on the agenda thing and says genderis go on the agenda thing and says gender is the latest must have fashion accessory for students . fashion accessory for students. in my day, he says it was found was flat genius and vegetarian ism. after that it was gretta , ism. after that it was gretta, her son back and now it's . is her son back and now it's. is it? i don't know. you tell me . it? i don't know. you tell me. right. let's get cultured, everyone always said i want to talk to you about the elgin marbles . talk to you about the elgin marbles. this talk to you about the elgin marbles . this is a talk to you about the elgin marbles. this is a debate that's rumbled on for centuries. is now what should be the outcome of it though? is it time for them to be returned? are they ours ? were be returned? are they ours? were they ever ours? and do you even care? you tell me and i'll see you .

in two. hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me. michelle dewberry with you until 7:00 tonight. alongside me, the political consultant alex dean and the fine man, trade unionist and the fine man, trade unionist and author paul embery. if you've just joined. well you've

missed out. you've missed us talking about out strikes and anti strike law about kids that seem to think that they're different genders for their biological sex. you've missed it all. and now we're moving on because i want to talk about something conscience . so i do something conscience. so i do and i'm interested as to how much interest you have in these kind of stories. so get in touch and tell me i'm talking about treasures in particular one that's currently owned by the british museum. some people would use the word owned a dispute that's and it's at the heart of a dispute that's gone on for centuries. the elgin mob rules and who owns them and where should they be, etc. etc. george osborne that's kind of ruining the british museum at the moment. apparently he's doing secret talks. that's one of his jobs with greece about where these should be. many people are getting in sort and saying , i don't care why , should saying, i don't care why, should i care? there's more interest, important things to debate, move on. who cares about headless statues ? yeah. amazingly, half

statues? yeah. amazingly, half of them seem to be saying to you, i don't care about that. give them back. well, if you don't care, you can just ignore the debate, can't you? it is the job who are lucky job of those who are lucky enough be entrusted to run enough to be entrusted to run our world. leading museums , our world. leading museums, preserve and improve their collections, not scheme behind closed doors to give them away see , it seems to me george see, it seems to me george osborne is taking entirely the wrong tack here. moreover, paul was educating us about the laws on strikes and withdrawing your laboun on strikes and withdrawing your labour. the parliaments in this country specifically passed a law to stop things like this being given away . the british being given away. the british museum act of 1983, which is still good law, says you can't give stuff away out of the collection. so george osborne wanted to go around disposing of assets that somehow embarrass him. he should have stayed in politics. but do you think that the uk is the rightful owner? yes, i do . lord elgin paid for yes, i do. lord elgin paid for them. we've got the receipts. you either believe in property rights or you don't. yes, but

then this is interesting then this is the interesting thing . let's make it about thing. let's make it about property rights. you go on property rights. if you go on houday property rights. if you go on holiday and let me use your house for a little while whilst you're away, i decide to sell one tuscany. one. so i'm in one in tuscany. one. so i'm in your house while still on houday your house while still on holiday and i decide to sell it to paul embery, poland, who's got all the receipts i gave michel all this money for this house. but i didn't have the right perhaps from you to right purse. perhaps from you to sell asset first sell your asset in the first place. then can he be the place. then how can he be the owner of it? so what with my knowledge, i the knowledge, if i did, and the trouble your comparison trouble with your comparison about property rights, about personal property rights, where it down is we had where it falls down is we had that discussion about that same discussion about looted stolen looted things that were stolen by individuals by the, by and from individuals by the, and you can track those and whether you can track those back and return them to their rightful which are rightful owners, which are different to state assets like these of priceless these kinds of priceless artefacts, of art that the artefacts, works of art that the elgin that were sold by elgin marbles that were sold by one state and via an individual acquired by another. the point is that the ottomans, who ruled in greece at the time , were in greece at the time, were there for longer than the existence. the formal existence

of the united states of , of the united states of, america. i mean, are we wrong to recognise the fake government in the fake country of the usa? we should be returned to the native american, right? me if i'm wrong. i thought that the when records found of the ottoman actually giving to get into basically flog these thing well to buy my to look after them yeah. am i right or am i wrong. i thought that i the reason that people contest this is that they saying you've got so much documentation from the ottoman times nothing to times but nothing relating to this think that's wrong. this. i think that that's wrong. the ottomans these to elgin the ottomans sold these to elgin and the dispute is whether they had the right to, which is a different discussion. by the way, you're not going to restore the elgin marbles, the parthenon marbles a if you get marbles as a whole if you get the marbles to greece. the elgin marbles to greece. half of them were lost in an explore ocean. this is i will. they're being cared for before elgin acquired them. and other parts are scattered all over europe. you're not going to europe. so you're not going to get back together even if get them back together even if britain some britain gives them away for some reason. embry i don't think

reason. paul embry i don't think you resolve arguments culturally sensitive, like this you resolve arguments culturally serrecourse like this you resolve arguments culturally serrecourse to like this you resolve arguments culturally serrecourse to legislation.:his you resolve arguments culturally serrecourse to legislation. iis by recourse to legislation. i mean i have to say this is not like the falkland islands where there massive there would be massive implications back implications from handing back something we see as something that we see as belonging to britain. i think that where there a case that has been made by a particular country that artefacts or whatever that are now in the possession of another country and were acquired , i think and were acquired, i think probably through dubious means. i don't think it was necessarily is clear as alex is suggesting and where those artefacts are culturally significant , i think culturally significant, i think there's a case to be made to say they should be handed back. the truth is they came from the parthenon. they are greek. if you were a greek, i think you have every right to say, look, those artefacts actually don't belong. they belong belong. in london, they belong in athens. and the greeks, as i understand it, i've actually spent a hell of a lot of time and effort over the last 30 or 40 years, restoring the parthenon and the acropolis and are now in a position to be able to ensure that if they took

those marbles back that they would be properly preserved and looked after. so, i mean, i think the have made a good case of do i understand the argument there a slippery slope there is a slippery slope potentially you end up handing everything back. but i think where particular where it's of particular cultural significance, where it causes where causes tension and where the country made reasonable country has made a reasonable case look, these are case to say, look, these are ours, yours, then i don't ours, not yours, then i don't think it's unreasonable to say actually back, but actually have them back, but i think it's sensitive at all. they're just wrong. and these marbles wouldn't to the marbles wouldn't go to the parthenon anyway . go from our parthenon anyway. go from our museum sit their museum. museum to sit in their museum. british has about british museum has about 6 million visitors a year. the museum has one, but i mean, do we know that? and even if that were the case, it's definitely that's that's their plan. well, i don't think i mean, even if that was so, i don't think that undermines the argument that they athens rather they belong in athens rather than belonging in london. i mean, they were not ours in the first place, culturing culturally they're important to greece country. greece and the greek country. and would be a good and i think it would be a good acts generosity charity on acts, generosity and charity on our to say fair enough our part to say fair enough without enough , have

without them long enough, have them back. no, thanks, wendy says capsule, send them home says and capsule, send them home with the uk is love and thanks. for the years we've had them, she says. i hate that so many people here do not care. we all care. oh, you hit me , wendy. care. oh, you hit me, wendy. i care. oh, you hit me, wendy. i care. i just disagree with wendy. not much. anyway, i get in touch. let me know your thoughts. gb views gbnews.uk is the email address and you can tweet me as well. i'm michelle groups on twitter now the big hat if you're a regular viewer, you will know that my show is ordinarily in am free zone. i have a very little interest in the antics of prince harry, but because i have one of his key look like sat next me at the root not so when i come back let's get into it shall we? border mess. tell me your thoughts. you went .

to hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me . michelle dewbs& co with me. michelle dewberry right through till 7:00 tonight and alongside i got the political consults and alex dean and the fire trade unionists and author embery a good first author paul embery a good first half of the show. it went so quickly, says one of my viewers. so far , alex dean has put his so far, alex dean has put his water down, broken poll numbers, necklace . however, however , they necklace. however, however, they both have worthy the views. sir it does remain to be seen who ends up in the dock. bull yes. yeah of my view is. there they go. what am i talking about? i'm talking about the subject that i try and avoid at all costs. actually tony says you didn't talk about jacket instead of h&m. me, i'd quite like h&m. trust me, i'd quite like to, alas, only the last to, but alas, it's only the last 10 so let's indulge 10 minutes. so let's indulge a i'm talking prince harry. i'm talking about prince harry. it's an absolute mess , isn't it? it's an absolute mess, isn't it? it's an absolute mess, isn't it? i mean, there's so much stuff going the moment. we can i going on at the moment. we can i mean, pick you a bit mean, pick what you have a bit of want to pick up on it. so of a want to pick up on it. so prince harry said today he wants to reconcile with his family. i don't about but if

don't know about you, but if i want to mend fences with somebody, first thing i do somebody, the first thing i do is book slagging them is write a book slagging them off. that key to off. that's that is key to getting off the right foot in getting off on the right foot in reconciling . a like reconciling. it's a bit like ensuring your privacy by signing up for a new netflix series that you're present, airing you're going to present, airing your to these your views key to all these things, thing, things, the thing, the criticism, coming for criticism, harry's coming in for today boasting about killing today is boasting about killing 25 taliban and that is what he boasted about . and that is the boasted about. and that is the story that's being discussed today. it seems to me that we all knew it was the job of our armed forces in that conflict to kill the taliban members. and i respect service, which would normally be discussed privately amongst comrades or or with your family . but so it's hardly amongst comrades or or with your family. but so it's hardly a surprise that a serving member of our armed forces killed the taliban when they were deployed to do just that, whether he looks like a crass braggart is another question . paul well , i'm another question. paul well, i'm no royalist, and i've got no particular affection for , the particular affection for, the

royal family. but i have to say, i think the way he has conducted himself, the things that he said, the things that he's done, and his wife have been pretty atrocious . i think going on atrocious. i think going on global television and writing a bestselling book, as it almost certainly will be, and trashing your own flesh and blood and revealing some of the most intimate details about your relationships with them . i think relationships with them. i think he's actually unforgivable. and the truth is, look , we all have the truth is, look, we all have arguments in our family. we all i mean, i've had arguments and fights with my brother over the years. it happens. that's what happensin years. it happens. that's what happens in families. but to do what he's done in terms of washing the dirty linen public and parading all of this sordid details in the global media, i think unforgivable . and if think is unforgivable. and if you you know the truth is, as alex said, they said that they wanted a life of privacy and actually everything they've done since has been very opposite since has been the very opposite of life of privacy they of the life of privacy that they craved. and it seems me that

craved. and it seems to me that they've chosen the of they've chosen the life of celebrity overseas service. celebrity over overseas service. they didn't particularly want to cut , open hospitals cut ribbons, open hospitals and go people's homes. they'd go to old people's homes. they'd rather los angeles and rather live in los angeles and fire shots across the atlantic in the way that they're doing. and do think the whole thing and i do think the whole thing is unseemly. one, is very unseemly. number one, but . and two, but inexcusable. and number two, people things for people do strange things for money, they? and i just money, don't they? and i just think this is all a shame. money, don't they? and i just think this is all a shame . and i think this is all a shame. and i think this is all a shame. and i think we have not seen the last of this yet. someone else has just been in touch saying , just been in touch saying, michelle, you just been talking about marbles. you can send about the marbles. you can send them to harry because he seems to have lost his. i've got to say, i don't disagree with you too much on that one, mark says michelle, i cannot bear you talking about h&m. i've muted myself . so can you give me a way myself. so can you give me a way when you finish talking about him, double wave to you? because that's all i can. pretty much handle so easily. now, if you want, sharon says , michelle, want, sharon says, michelle, send the marbles. want, sharon says, michelle, send the marbles . basically they send the marbles. basically they were stolen. they belong in greece . or if not, she left them

greece. or if not, she left them for garden. for the sake yeah, they should rightly be back in they should rightly be back in the original place for everyone to see greek achievements far beyond all the people of the time . less so is that you should time. less so is that you should basically break the marbles down. i could use them from a patio , says les, which is what a patio, says les, which is what a number of people around there did. they broke it up to burn bits. they broke it up to put it in their houses. what a great care they were taking care of before elgin got. it was a long time ago that alex i mean, they're not to be doing that now all well says the uk has all they. well says the uk has enough marbles in the enough loose marbles is in the house of commons. you very house of commons. thank you very much. a similar much. and nick, on a similar vein i think we've already vein says i think we've already lost our marbles. go, lost our marbles. they go, nicola only just nicola says, i've only just tuned is that prince harry tuned in. is that prince harry that his views love that i giving his views love joshua have you ever done any prince harry look alike work? i haven't, but i have say one haven't, but i have to say one year the london brigade year the london fire brigade held annual christmas held its annual christmas christmas service inside christmas carols service inside westminster cathedral. and i was a official in the fire a senior official in the fire brigades union at the time. and

some sat me about three some wags sat me about three seats prince so as i seats from prince harry. so as i was walking up aisle to take was walking up the aisle to take my you could see people my seat, you could see people getting selfies and getting ready to do selfies and when they saw it was me, they realised that actually i'm a bit better. inside. can't be better. look inside. can't be harry. not me. look harry. l like it, not me. look like i could be age and we like i could be your age and we would make a fortune you and i could be excellent. stewart could be excellent. mr. stewart says time the army, says all my time in the army, you ask by surveys, have you always ask by surveys, have you always ask by surveys, have you killed there is you ever killed anyone? there is an law that if you are an unwritten law that if you are asked, you always say no. whether you have or not. trusting inside the coming up, by the way, at 7:00 in fact, actually, i must just say thank you very much. two have very much enjoyed that. thank you much. and i've enjoyed your company home. up next is company at home. but up next is bev turner. good evening to you bev. happy friday. what have you got for us? good evening. they've let me on in the evening . great show, by the way. thank you. i've got lot coming you. right i've got a lot coming up for these two big up tonight for these two big speeches this week from rishi sunak we're sunak and keir starmer. we're going comparing them and going to be comparing them and how they kind of contrast with

each in each other with someone in the red and someone in the blue corner. we be about prince harry. know viewers now harry. i know that viewers now probably turn the sound down again, but we have to discuss this. the most in crowd this. i have the most in crowd able psychotherapist coming into the brilliant and the studio. she's brilliant and she's going to us what she's going to tell us what might going on in harry's might be going on in harry's mind. got richard, mind. and then i've got richard, house, of reform house, leader of the reform party, in end, and party, coming in at the end, and i'm to grill him a little i'm going to grill him a little before the end of the show. so don't go anyway. oh, sounds good. to be honest. i'm good. i've got to be honest. i'm going pub boss. the going to the pub boss. the beauty of gb news is that you can with you. so you can take us with you. so if you are out about, you're are out and about, you're heading what is your heading off what is on your radio? listeners there instead. thank you. once everyone. thank you. once again, everyone. whatever you're doing, have a fantastic you whatever you're doing, have a fanmonday. you whatever you're doing, have a fanmonday. good you whatever you're doing, have a fanmonday. good evening. you whatever you're doing, have a fanmonday. good evening. many of on monday. good evening. many of us have a dry friday, but us have had a dry friday, but the first weekend of the year will dominated by showers. will be dominated by showers. lots of showers, often heavy coming through on a fairly gusty wind and it'll start to turn a little cooler as well. pretty mild tonight , but we're kind of mild tonight, but we're kind of between system or have between weather system or have been the day, is been through the day, which is why most us have been dry. why most of us have been dry. but weather now

but these weather fronts now edging the west are edging in from the west are bringing conditions and bringing wet conditions and quite moving across quite heavy moving across northern scottish northern ireland into scottish in particular for south wales and south west england. that heavy through the early heavy rain through the early hours could cause few hours could cause a few problems. do have a met problems. so we do have a met office yellow warning in place much england will much of eastern england will stay dry overnight and northern ireland after ireland will turn dry after midnight temperatures midnight as temperatures actually in many places actually rising in many places through the night. start the through the night. we start the weekend double digits . we weekend in double digits. we also start with a fair bit of rain around. still some heavy rain around. still some heavy rain for wales and south—west england especially first seeing that rain will move eastwards , that rain will move eastwards, eventually turning of eventually turning up. of course, anglia in the course, east anglia in the southeast during the morning and then into north sea then head out into the north sea may across the may linger across the easternmost of england and easternmost parts of england and scotland around dusk. scotland until around dusk. it'll be followed by drier , it'll be followed by drier, brighter weather a time and brighter weather for a time and the showers get going. lots of heavy showers zipping through on that gusty wind the that gusty wind come the afternoon . temperatures actually afternoon. temperatures actually dropping a little through the as well. so feeling cooler than it has done, especially with the wind and especially if you get

caught in, a downpour of which there to come there will be more to come through saturday evening, a showery night. it gets very windy once more in the north of scotland, and that lead into a blustery, gusty day on sunday with further heavy showers to come, particularly for wales and southern england . could be quite southern england. could be quite a wet day for parts of the south—east, northeast, england, southern, scotland's north—east and scotland may not see too many showers . so and many showers. so here by and large it could be a mostly dry and there will be sunny spells elsewhere between the showers but the showers will keep coming on that gusty wind temperatures down close to average but feeling cooler with the wind .