over . a good afternoon . welcome, over. a good afternoon. welcome, mrs. real britain with me emily carver your tv, radio and online . now we've got a jam packed show for you today. we'll be

getting stuck into the latest industrial action as train industrial action as the train strikes rumble on and junior doctors a day doctors starting a three day walkout no a&e cover is walkout with no a&e cover is really to bring in anti strike laws , enforce minimum service laws, enforce minimum service levels . we'll also be examining levels. we'll also be examining a little closer some of the shocking revelations to come out . prince harry's memoirs with both a royal expert and a psychotherapist. i want to know what on earth is going on in harry's head and what is she soon thinking in wanting pupils to study maths to age .7 his to study maths to age.7 his former maths to study maths to age? his former maths teacher has come out to say he thinks a stupid idea. do you the first before all that? let's get the news headunes all that? let's get the news headlines with tatiana sanchez . headlines with tatiana sanchez. emily, thank you. this is the latest from . the gb newsroom, latest from. the gb newsroom, the prime minister is holding crisis with the nhs to try to ease the pressure on the health service . rishi sunak's service. rishi sunak's discussing for critical issues

at. the nhs recovery forum with health experts and other ministers , social and emergency ministers, social and emergency . however, he's been warned the talks are unlikely to reverse current situation with senior saying the nhs is a knife edge and as fast speech of the new yean and as fast speech of the new year, mr. sunak made reducing waiting lists one of his key pledges before the next election . former health secretary steven dorrell gb news. it's important the nhs and the government have a clear view of what want to achieve in consort out the health service until sort out the pay disputes that are currently disrupting the health service. and so that have to be a plan as to how the government is going to get itself out of the hole. it's got itself into on pay. the senior managers of the health service that are into downing street today , they need downing street today, they need to have the party sorted out. they need the money but then they need to be allowed the space to do the job. the rmt

says rail companies at the heart of the long running dispute over pay of the long running dispute over pay have made hundreds of millions of pounds in profit. the union claims the money has come from when the government put private train operators on new contracts during the covid pandemic. it says some companies made pandemic. it says some companies mad e £310 million in taxpayer made £310 million in taxpayer funded profits between march 2020 and september 2022. it comes as the tape and 14 train operators continue their walkouts over paid jobs conditions in the. a six year old boy who shot and seriously a teacher at a primary school in virginia has been detained . virginia has been detained. police officers say the woman's injuries were initially thought to be life threatening, but her condition has improved in hospital . the chief police hospital. the chief police officer said the shooting was not accidental and two had had what they called an altercation . it's unclear, though, how child got hold of the handgun .

child got hold of the handgun. russia says its forces would uphold its declared ceasefire ukraine until midnight despite . ukraine until midnight despite. ukraine until midnight despite. ukraine dismissing the truce as propaganda. ukraine has rejected president putin's cease designed to give russian forces chance to rest and rearm during the orthodox christmas period . it orthodox christmas period. it says it would continue to try and its land. meanwhile moscow says its defence had only returned artillery fire sent by ukrainian forces. returned artillery fire sent by ukrainian forces . mps have been ukrainian forces. mps have been urged to support paid leave for miscarriage. the proposal an snp member would grant three days of statutory paid leave to parents who experience a miscarriage before 24 weeks of pregnancy . before 24 weeks of pregnancy. angela crawley says it would give parents the time needed to grieve . currently paid grieve. currently paid bereavement is only given following stillbirth after 24 weeks . prince harry claims in weeks. prince harry claims in his memoir his father was jealous of his wife meghan. the book, which is already published

early in spain, suggests the king feared meghan would quote , king feared meghan would quote, dominate the monarchy and still the limelight from charles and camilla . harry also says his camilla. harry also says his father told him we don't have money to spare. in response to finding out meghan would stop working after their wedding , working after their wedding, referring back to his military days, harry says he killed 25 taliban fighters , a claim which taliban fighters, a claim which has been criticised both the army and the taliban themselves. historian anna whitelock says the response by the military shouldn't be dominating revelations about palace. i think that real get to harry i think that real get to harry i think he's always prided himself on being a military man. he's proud that he had frontline service . so the fact that he's service. so the fact that he's been rebuked in this way so publicly by the army, i think will come as some surprise to and be particularly actually devastating . flood warnings are devastating. flood warnings are in place across and wales as heavy downpours as are set to hit the uk overnight. heavy downpours as are set to hit the uk overnight . there are hit the uk overnight. there are 27 flood warnings in place .

27 flood warnings in place. england with six warnings in place for wales . the scottish place for wales. the scottish environment protection has issued six flood alerts for scotland . this is gb news will scotland. this is gb news will you? more news as it happens. now it's to . now it's to. emily yes. welcome to the real with me, emily carver. so here's what's up on the show this afternoon . now, a week into the afternoon. now, a week into the new year and thousands of people still haven't been able to go into work. rmt boss. mick lynch admits public support for rail unions has taken a bit of a hit, but said government was still losing argument. junior doctors are now threatening a three day strike in march with no any coven strike in march with no any cover. and teachers look likely to join them to push. he has unveiled plans to bring anti strike legislation. but keir starmer's to repeal any such

laws brought in. whose side are you on in that debate. then sources who are close to the queen have claimed harry's repeated ambushing of the royal family had a detrimental on the late queen's health in her final yeah he late queen's health in her final year. he also faces, of course, a growing backlash from members of the armed forces who believe his disclosure that he killed 25 insurgents in afghanistan has put not only himself, but also serving personnel in greater dangen serving personnel in greater danger. what on is he thinking? i'll be getting those very on those bombshell revelations and the prime former maths teacher has come out today to say that the prime minister's to make maths compulsory to the age of 18 is in quotes. the first stupid thing he said since becoming prime minister. the teacher, nick mckinnon, says that some people should actually do far less maths. so with teachers planning to coordinate strikes , to close as many strikes, to close as many schools as possible does this show how out of touch she is with the teaching profession and the needs of young people ? i'll

the needs of young people? i'll be getting the thoughts of my panel on. that as well as the latest sunak attempts latest on sunak attempts to tackle winter health care tackle all winter health care crisis. that's what we're talking about for the next hour. i'd love to know your thoughts as on today's as always, on today's topics, please me at gb news or please do tweet me at gb news or you can email me course on gb views at gb news dot uk. you can also watch us online on youtube. thanks very much stay tuned . thanks very much stay tuned. right. strikes we may be into the new year, but in terms of the new year, but in terms of the strikes, nothing has changed has it. as railway workers from the and aslef unions return to the and aslef unions return to the picket lines this week , the picket lines this week, labour leader sir keir starmer has vowed to repeal any anti strike introduced by prime minister as sunak, which would have imposed service levels on striking sectors and allow employers to sue and sack strike king staff. meanwhile course junior doctors are now threatening to walk out for 72

hours in march. the bma that's their union is demanding a 26% pay their union is demanding a 26% pay increase . they say that that pay increase. they say that that would bring them up to where they would have been, where it not for real terms cuts or indeed cuts don't keep up with inflation . but what are we to inflation. but what are we to make of all and whose side are on in this particular political game of chess? now i've got fantastic guests with me to debate this firefighter and trade unionist. paul embry is with us down the line and former special adviser to gove. charlie rowley . charlie, i'll start with rowley. charlie, i'll start with . so rishi sunak is very to bnngin . so rishi sunak is very to bring in some kind of anti strike legislation. he would argue that he needs to balance rights of ordinary workers. well workers with those who happen to be in unions . what do you think be in unions. what do you think the right balance is ? well, good the right balance is? well, good . and thanks for having me. but i think she's absolutely right to bring this legislation forward . i think some of the forward. i think some of the stories that we've heard,

particularly over the winter months, where we've had people that weren't able get medical that weren't able to get medical care, absolutely care, that they are absolutely entitled to what should be entitled to what they should be deserving . they've not able deserving. they've not been able to that because of the to receive that because of the industrial action that's that's regretted nobody regretted taken place. nobody wants strikes wants to see these strikes continue will go on longer than necessary. but i think in a society where you have other sectors in the public sector space such as such as the armed forces who are not able to strike, i think having which requires just a safety level to ensure that people will absolutely get the medical attention that they need or they will have the emergency to anything that they need is absolutely right approach. and i think that's what the public would is what they deserve. and i think be on the side of really seeing it. now, charlie, i do wish for you to turn on your own side, are, course, side, you are, of course, a former special adviser to michael the conservative michael gove, the conservative minister. but do you think that perhaps the government have been little bit poor, have left something to be desired in terms

of how they've gone about this whole situation? it seems their constant on the back foot . i constant on the back foot. i don't actually it might not suffice to say that, but i what we've got to look at is in the round and everybody knows , you round and everybody knows, you know, 20, 22 was a terrible year in terms of the economy we're in a tough economic situation, as we know. and i think everybody recognises with rishi commitments he set out last week in bringing debt down bringing inflation down, growing the economy once can achieve those goals that allows you then to look at public sector pay it and. i want you to get the economy going again, redistributing that revenue and our public sectors back to where they should be. but until you achieve that, we will understand the financial constraints that we're all in. there isn't money in coffers and so everybody just needs to i think exercise that restraint we're all in it together and until we get the economy we can make progress

thereafter . now, paul, sorry to thereafter. now, paul, sorry to keep you waiting, but i know you will be of a very different opinion on this one. i assumed you think there's any case for minimum levels to be brought in. we're all in it together. how many times have we heard? and the truth is, it's just not true. is it? no. this move completely inflammatory . it's completely inflammatory. it's wrong. it's pretty obvious going on here. the government is been able to defeat strikes and therefore it wants to change the rules. it wants to bring in legislation making it effectively illegal for a number of workers to take strike action. and that really us back to the dark days . and i think to the dark days. and i think relations in this country any kind of industrial action was seen as inherently illegitimate. that's the that's game that we're in at the moment it's like two boxes and one is land in heavy blows on the other. and so, you know, the other boxes corner decides to change the rules and say, oh, can you have the boxer fight with one hand tied back , please?

tied behind his back, please? that's exactly going on. that's exactly what's going on. yeah it's unworkable yeah not to say it's unworkable because idea that thousands because the idea that thousands of are going to have of workers are going to have voted democrat strictly to take part in industrial action is through the trade union are going to willingly abandon that industrial action and walk across picket lines something that's a cardinal sin in the trade union movement walk across picket lines which their colleagues are mining just because the government is sold them to do it i think is completely sensible and that the government doesn't understand the of trade the very basics of trade unionism or worker solidarity in the first place. frankly well, isn't this the thing, charlie, really minimum service isn't this the thing, charlie, reallyagreementsum service isn't this the thing, charlie, reallyagreements mayervice isn't this the thing, charlie, reallyagreements may sound good level agreements may sound good to some people who want to get to some people who want to get to want to able to to work? we want to be able to use the nhs, regard lists of workers pay demands and strike action but actually it's unworkable in reality people aren't going to go into work when the rest of their mates are out on the picket line. they could refuse. that would be long legal challenges and so on would it not better , more it not be better, more straightforward for the

government just ban strikes government to just ban strikes when comes to services ? oh, when it comes to services? oh, well, i think as the prime minister said the other day that the that the government wants to bnng the that the government wants to bring forward no different to what we see in france in spain, in i think it is in italy. so i think it is legitimate that it's legitimate to say that it's going to be workable. what we can't in this country is can't have in this country is going after a pandemic lockdown to a union shutdown in this country , we need to ensure that country, we need to ensure that there is that minimum safety service to ensure that service there to ensure that patients to ensure that people , patients to ensure that people, if they need to call on the firefighter, they will get minimal service. they will get the emergency response that people deserve , people need. and people deserve, people need. and i think it is absolutely right that would expect that . that people would expect that. and that is what the and so that is what the government is proposing. that's the will bring the legislation will bring forward. and as say , i think forward. and as i say, i think it the balance between not it is the balance between not just the public just protecting the public service and the public sector , service and the public sector, but just protecting the public . but just protecting the public. paul but just protecting the public. paul, what do you make of the latest news that junior doctors apparently want to walk out for

72 hours in march? they're demanding 6% increase in their pay - demanding 6% increase in their pay . do you demanding 6% increase in their pay. do you genuinely think that is reasonable ? well, look, every is reasonable? well, look, every trade union negotiates will put down an opening figure knowing full well it's very likely to threaten, you know, any emergent c cover. that's the best. the sticking for me. well, what the point is this, emily, and it's a point is this, emily, and it's a point that charlie didn't. what are the root causes ? why so many are the root causes? why so many workers are currently up and down the country taking strike action? is it because , you know, action? is it because, you know, this is sort of weird phenomenon where they've all woken up one morning and decided that they're going to do something that many of done before, of them have never done before, which their of which is to withdraw their of course, it's not because the course, it's not because of the economic that they're economic landscape that they're at the moment. millions of workers down country workers and down this country are being that they have to accept another real terms pay after ten years a low pay increase for many of them. what we've seen in this country recently is a major transfer of

wealth from rich to not least as a result of the pandemic and frankly workers have had enough. they've said we're not prepared to pay the price . another to pay the price. another financial crisis that we did not create. we're not prepared to accept in other real terms, pay cut. and rather than address that and give people the kind of wage increases that they deserve, what the government is trying to do is to say, well, we're going to you to accept low wages because even though you might democratically to take industrial action, we're not going to allow it. and if you take it, we're going to see a union and we might even sack you. the action i think, you. that is the action i think, of the deeply authoritarian government and a government that hasn't just this hasn't grasped just how this cost living is hitting people cost of living is hitting people so hard to the degree where millions are prepared, fight back and take to picket lines, where many of haven't done where many of them haven't done that i mean, there is that before. i mean, there is absolutely denying that the economy at the moment is in state of crisis. well it's not producing enough wages, aren't

keeping in line with inflation. and people are very struggling. but it's not the issue charlie one of the major issues and the own stats back this up but productivity in the public sector has not increased throughout the conservative rule over that 12 years in government has been stagnant in order to award people wages that they have a good case for productivity needs to rise to . productivity needs to rise to. well i think that's part of the conversation that'll take place when meet with ministers on monday the public sector service thatis monday the public sector service that is a covered by the pay review body. all of this information will be open so they can be frank discussions about about working conditions and about working conditions and about productivity and about delivery. now and to just paul's point about a and people trying to get back to work, there'll be many people, many workers across this that haven't been this country that haven't been able to because able to go to work because of the strikes, which i don't the rail strikes, which i don't think sympathy think commands much sympathy amongst the public . but in order

amongst the public. but in order to address the cost of living, the number one issue to help people through this time is to bnng people through this time is to bring inflation down. and that's what rishi sunak set out last week. that's one of his number one. it is his number one aim that he set out as , say, last that he set out as, say, last week. because if you continue chase inflation and in chains inflationary payments, this particularly, you know, above and beyond 11, if you can just get up to 11, which i think was originally asked that, will cost £28 billion. that's £1,000 per household , according to the household, according to the government's figures . that is government's figures. that is simply unaffordable and think the public recognise that given the public recognise that given the state the economy is in. we just need to let the government get on addressing its government addressing its economic plan, reduce the debt, reduce deficit to inflation down and let the economy sounds pretty and that's exactly what the government us all that are all to think that they are thinking about inflation first and that any wage increases in the sector would be inflationary and that would make everything worse. by, all etc. worse. a wage price by, all etc. etc. paul wish you shaking etc. paul you wish you shaking

your what would you your head there. what would you like say? well simply that like to say? well simply that the argument about inflation , a the argument about inflation, a red herring the inflation that we're experiencing system red herring the inflation that wetheaxperiencing system red herring the inflation that wethe momenting system red herring the inflation that wethe moment has system red herring the inflation that wethe moment has got system red herring the inflation that wethe moment has got nothing to at the moment has got nothing to with the inflation with wage demands. the inflation we experiencing come we are experiencing has come about largely a result of the opening up the economy opening up of the economy after the the situation the pandemic and the situation in ukraine is evidence which has been compiled by the unite you into showing much of the inflation is being driven by profits by some of the price shift in terms of price in a wage price . i think we're losing wage price. i think we're losing pull there really sorry paul but your your sound is a little bit rubbish the moment and you're all staticky. so we're going to have to say bye bye. i think i got the point were trying to make you were saying that profits are being priorities oven profits are being priorities over. workers which to an extent can probably definitely be argued but thank you very much paul that was embery firefighter and trade unionist arguing against the government bringing in anti strike legislation . and

in anti strike legislation. and on the other side we had former special adviser michael gove, special adviser to michael gove, charlie , the studio with special adviser to michael gove, charthank , the studio with special adviser to michael gove, charthank you , the studio with special adviser to michael gove, charthank you very studio with special adviser to michael gove, charthank you very much» with special adviser to michael gove, charthank you very much indeed me. thank you very much indeed both time. please do let both of your time. please do let me know what you think about that. do you the that. do you think the government should be bringing in an legislation an anti strike legislation can see but think, see both sides. but i think, you know, does have to know, the priority does have to be things moving for be keeping things moving for everyone moment anyway. everyone else any moment anyway. plenty more this afternoon plenty more come this afternoon on britain . after the on real britain. after the break, who are close to break, sources who are close to the queen have claimed prince harry's repeated of harry's repeated ambushing of the royal family had a detrimental effect on the late queen's health in final year queen's health in her final year . is harry's memoirjust another kick in teeth to his and kick in the teeth to his and country? i think you can guess what i think, but first, let's have a little look at the weather . looking have a little look at the weather. looking ahead to this evening's weather and the uk is looking rather breezy with bands of showers heavy at times and brighter spells in between. here are the details . a blustery are the details. a blustery spell for the west with scattered showers pushing across the region on a fresh southwest wind. temperatures generally

falling to between seven and ten celsius for . falling to between seven and ten celsius for. london and southeast england, the will be rather breezy with the risk of some heavy showers and temperatures between seven and nine celsius. showery for south wales and cloudy at times . bands wales and cloudy at times. bands of showers move in from the southwest, turning windy with temperatures between seven and nine celsius. birmingham the west midlands are likely to see a band of heavy showers move eastwards across the region through the evening. it will turn rather with temperatures of around six or seven celsius. and as a similar story for north—east england where a band of showers heavy at times will move eastwards across the region through the evening, move eastwards across the region through the evening , turning through the evening, turning breezy with temperatures of seven or eight celsius. southern scotland will also see a few showers through the evening time with some flare spells in between and a light, moderate southwesterly breeze . southwesterly breeze. temperatures of between five and seven celsius. a moderate southwesterly breeze for northern ireland through the evening with areas of cloud, a

scattering of showers and some clear spells. temperatures six or seven celsius. low pressure will continue dominate the uk's weather overnight . gales to the weather overnight. gales to the far northwest . further scattered far northwest. further scattered showers and that's how the weather shaping up . sunday's gb weather shaping up. sunday's gb newsroom 930, it's camilla tominey for a politics show with personal lettie. then at 11. michael portillo for topical discussion debate some ethical dilemmas and sometimes even a sense the ridiculous . and at sense the ridiculous. and at 1 pm. me i was there stuart. every on gb news the channel britain's news .

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know you think about that anti strike legislation . do you think strike legislation. do you think the government's right to bring it in or do think, you know, the workers have a point they should be allowed to take to the picket line wage claims? let line over that wage claims? let me what you you're me know what you think. you're watching real britain, of course, on news and course, on gb news tv online and on radio . now, on your digital radio. now, prince harry, he's prince harry, well, he's a series of explosive claims in tell all memoir spare today it's been revealed that harry believed his father . now, king believed his father. now, king charles, of course , actually charles, of course, actually feared meghan and had the potential to dominate the monarchy and become another diana for the public and the press quite . the allegation press quite. the allegation there amongst the are that his brother, prince william physically attacked him during an argument, and that the brothers begged their father not to marry camilla. he also admits to marry camilla. he also admits to taking cocaine , losing his to taking cocaine, losing his virginity behind a pub aged 17, and also claims to have killed 25 taliban fighters while serving in afghanistan on. right. there's quite a lot to get into there to give his thoughts, his royal commentator

right now, we were just chatting in the there and it was reported that prince harry wanted to cancel the publication of this book altogether . then, of book altogether. then, of course, he went through it. has it backfired. yes, i will. certainly, we had a story in back august that after picking the queen, he to pull the publication and then going after her death , worried about the her death, worried about the impact it would have the publishers did not that to publishers did not want that to happen at all. now can happen at all. but now we can see perhaps his fears were justified because, yes, i would say this is say absolutely. this is backfired for him, only in backfired for him, not only in britain , around the world, britain, around the world, and particularly america , which particularly in america, which was the heartland was traditionally the heartland for the sussex squad . but even for the sussex squad. but even then we've actually seen prominent us tv anchors and hosts and presenters calling the book gauche, saying that prince harry is a man baby. book gauche, saying that prince harry is a man baby . and all of harry is a man baby. and all of this actually matters, you know, because i don't think he's realised that in america that the interest in the monarchy and the interest in the monarchy and the respect for the monarchy is because it's above own vulgar celebrity culture of the

kardashians. it stands dignity for sophistication , for elegance for sophistication, for elegance in the american terms. it's classy and there's nothing classy and there's nothing classy about this book. and this episode. it's vulgar it's gauche. it's declasse and harry's made himself an international laughingstock . and international laughingstock. and i and just basically i think a joke around the world is like a complete buffoon. i think it's fair to say. i don't think. that's an exaggeration. and as you said, very interesting you said, it very interesting indeed to see the likes of a cnn anchor who has been very definite , too, to the couple definite, too, to the couple who's very positive about them anyway , in his news coverage anyway, in his news coverage pnor, anyway, in his news coverage prior , this is now thinking, prior, this is now thinking, well, actually i don't really want to be seen to be on the side of these two money grubbing, over—the—top lunatics. it appears some ways i think there an element of concern that harry may that he's very troubled. he's clearly very troubled. he's clearly very troubled indeed. and i don't believe this is the path to happiness. why do you think he's doing this? well, i think it's

was interesting to look at the right we have 2012 harry a second tour of afghanistan . he second tour of afghanistan. he allegedly kills 25 taliban without thinking about it able to disconnect that 2016 he meets meghan markle 2019. he's when his brother breaks his necklace , his dog bowl and he's on the phone to his therapist. now, is there a connection there? i'm not entirely sure. but, you know i'll have speculate on that. i'll have to speculate on that. i'll have to speculate on that. i think a lot of this actually is down to influence of the is down to the influence of the machiavellian manipulator making herself . i machiavellian manipulator making herself. i used machiavellian manipulator making herself . i used to call her the herself. i used to call her the yoko ono, the royal family, but actually that's unfair yoko actually that's unfair on yoko ono. now, that's fair for yoko ono. now, that's fair for yoko ono. actually doesn't doesn't deserve that as a woman i'm going to go to the other side and say, do you think it's fair to say that she is the manipulating the manipulate her behind all this because i do think it's very odd indeed that prince harry seems to see and this is just my feeling. but other people have remarked upon it seem to feel that meghan is some of reincarnation of

some kind of reincarnation of his own. this deep troubles. some kind of reincarnation of his own. this deep troubles . oh, his own. this deep troubles. oh, no, i'm not denying that at she's the ying to his yang in a very unfortunate sort of way . very unfortunate sort of way. and certainly he's projected onto meghan. so of what he sees in his mother and also the reports in the book, of course, that he's actually been seeking psychic help to contact his mother. clearly a very troubled person. i mean, but i think therapy this this california therapy this this california therapy culture, which megan espouses and you know, sitting in a circle singing kumbaya while she's drinking ethically sourced . i think this while she's drinking ethically sourced. i think this is very part of the problem and i a report a few years ago that swedish children are the world's most depressed despite living in arguably one of the world's most successful countries because they're constantly told talk they're constantly told to talk their feelings. this their feelings. there's this obsession with how i feel. it's very self—indulgent, it's very narcissistic and i'm afraid right now when we have a cost of living crisis, when people are trying to or heat trying to whether to eat or heat , when you've got nhs crisis going on, health troubles from post—covid , i think there's very

post—covid, i think there's very little for pair of little sympathy for pair of privileged, pampered prima donnasin privileged, pampered prima donnas in california moaning about the fact that, you know , about the fact that, you know, his evil stepmother changed his bedroom into a dressing room once left home. i mean, it once she left home. i mean, it is certainly looks self indulgent. i will give that certainly looks appears narcissistic mean there's so much we could talk about this i will get your take that will just get your take that latest line that apparently king charles feared meghan. well again, i think this is just more frenzied paranoia from a from a fevered unfortunately. you also have to remember a lot of this is written over of it's written by a ghost writer with a desire to obviously have a tabloid flair to all of these stories. so aren't actually harry's words coming out? they're spun through wonderfully the tabloid effects by ghost—writer . but look, by his ghost—writer. but look, the point kate , for the whole point was kate, for example, and william example, was never and william are king. he knows are threat to the king. he knows that two of that those are two of his greatest assets. yet apparently you a threat his you regard them as a threat his his glamour glory to the his own glamour glory to the fact is the monarchy is a unit that works to well together and.

you know, william and kate are two of his greatest assets. oh, so i'm quite angry, actually about this mention how many people he killed . afghanistan. people he killed. afghanistan. we've the reaction on social media and in the press from actual of the taliban . this is actual of the taliban. this is worrying not only for him and his family of whom he always talks about the need for their safety and how that is his number one priority but also of the royal family and also general brits. this is this is, i think, the most serious issue. forget all the jokes and the and the family squabbles. forget all the jokes and the and the family squabbles . what he the family squabbles. what he has done essentially is to increase the threat level to all of us, not just for himself. and we remember how he didn't want to come to the uk because of what he perceived as a threat level. well have levels level. well have certain levels now own now increase to his own incompetence and ineptitude and it's to just royal family it's not to just royal family because you know di davis, who's the royal protection the former royal protection officer years standing officer of many years standing head of the royal protection, has said he's not felt this afraid royal security for 25

afraid for royal security for 25 years, since the why? because we have coronation coming up a huge national if not global event bringing hundreds of thousands, if not millions to the heart of london. now all it takes is one lone wolf to be inspired by the taliban's rhetoric, calling a war criminal and regards , you war criminal and regards, you know, afghanis as nothing than chess pieces to take action on that. it's very serious. and i don't think that they fully understood this in montecito . i understood this in montecito. i mean, it's quite remarkable that no one said harry should probably . have you not probably that bit. have you not thought about the implications of the risks to you and of that and the risks to you and your country? but hey, clearly not showing the most intelligence i would say or foresight. but thank you very much indeed. royal commentator rafe haydel. manka, thank you for your there. it is quite extraordinary. please do let me know what you make of this book will you be reading it? i must i definitely will. may even listen to the audiobook, which is by the great man himself. now are going to be moving on. thank you

very much for your time, rafe . very much for your time, rafe. you are, of course, with gb news on tv and dab radio. but after the break, sunak's former maths teacher has come out today to that the prime minister's plan to make maths compulsory to the age of 18 is, in quotes first stupid thing, he said since becoming prime minister. do you agree? it seems everyone coming out in the media and press have their say. why don't you get in touch and let me know? i'll be getting the of my panel in just one before all it's time one moment before all it's time to check on the news headlines. tatiana sanchez . emily, think it tatiana sanchez. emily, think it is 233. this is the latest from gb newsroom, the prime is holding crisis talks with the nhs to try to ease pressure on the health service . rishi the health service. rishi sunak's discussing for critical issues. the nhs recovery forum with health experts and other ministers, including and emergency care . however, he's

emergency care. however, he's been warned these talks are unlikely to reverse the situation with senior doctors saying the nhs is on a knife edge. mr. sunak has made reducing nhs waiting lists one of his key pledges before the next election . the rmt claims next election. the rmt claims rail companies. the government put on new contracts during the covid pandemic have made hundreds of millions pounds in profits. the union has said some train operators paid profits. the union has said some train operators pai d £310 train operators paid £310 million in taxpayer funded . million in taxpayer funded. between march 2020 and september 2022. it comes as the rmt and 14 train operators continue their 48 hour walk out over pay jobs and conditions. 48 hour walk out over pay jobs and conditions . prince 48 hour walk out over pay jobs and conditions. prince harry claims his memoir his father was jealous of his wife meghan. the book which has been published early in spain , suggests the early in spain, suggests the king feared meghan would dominate the monarchy and steal limelight from charles and camilla . referring back to his

camilla. referring back to his military days, harry says he killed five taliban fighters , a killed five taliban fighters, a claim which has been criticised both the army and the taliban . both the army and the taliban. and warnings are in place across england and wales as heavy downpours are set to hit the uk overnight . there are 27 flood overnight. there are 27 flood warnings in place for england , warnings in place for england, with six warnings in place for. wales. the scottish environment agency has issued six flood alerts for scotland . tv, online alerts for scotland. tv, online and dab radio. this is.

gb news you. yes, i remember to call me on watching real britain on gb news tv online. angela digital radio. before the break we rafe, our royal commentator , favourite

our royal commentator, favourite royal commentators take on and the revelations that came over night from that boat. please do let me know what you think. are you going to be reading it? i mean, it looks pretty . i guess mean, it looks pretty. i guess there are bombshell revelations that were missed from the netflix but i mean, netflix docu series. but i mean, come on admitting that you killed 25 soldiers in killed 25 of soldiers in afghanistan, that is absolute madness. i think he's off his rocker the moment, actually, and i think he should be the one to apologise to his family and the rest the country really rest of the country really actually for putting us at more risk, perhaps. think it's fair risk, perhaps. i think it's fair to say now we're going to be to. say now we're going to be moving on to something is also in just royal in crisis, not just the royal family sunak holding family rishi sunak is holding talks and care leaders talks with nhs and care leaders in an attempt to tackle britain's winter health care crisis. seem always have a crisis. we seem to always have a winter care crisis . winter health care crisis. senior medics are saying it's even than normal. the minister is hosting the nhs recovery forum at number 10. the talks will focus on four key issues. one social care and delayed discharge to urgent and emergency care . three elective

emergency care. three elective care and four primary care. but considering the tories have been in power for the past 12 years, do you think they are the ones to fix it? joining me to debate this is political commentator webb, friend of the show and former labour mp stephen pound. here with me in the studio . here with me in the studio. thank you very much indeed for us. i'll start with you, stephen, seeing you're here, what do you think we've heard murmurings from, the labour party from wes streeting in particular, about how they could potentially be the party to reform the nhs the sacred cow? well, you we created the nhs over the tory if you remember, and therefore i think, you know, we like everybody in this country, we've got skin in the game. think what we're is game. i think what we're is saying just iconoclasm saying it's not just iconoclasm he's actually saying it challenging the challenging us, challenging the orthodoxy. the old orthodoxy. you know the old saying the british are saying that the british are not a particularly people a particularly religious people so invented you know so the nhs was invented you know just to give them a theology but he it being he talks about it being a service a shrine when he service not a shrine when he talks about being to do talks about it being up to do with producer interest with the producer interest rather consumer rather than the consumer interest, breaking

interest, he's actually breaking new main thing new ground here. the main thing is mentioned is this. i think mentioned before nhs and were born on before the nhs and were born on the same day back in back in 1948 where you really . yeah 1948 where you really. yeah seriously the queen charlotte's hospital cult enough stephen a july 1940. but anyway the point being that within five years the nhs being founded they had a thing called the gilbert report , that , which posited the fact that the nhs was financially incapable . and as you remember incapable. and as you remember what they took opticians out of the nhs, they took dentistry out . harold wilson freeman people resigned . but look, the thing is resigned. but look, the thing is the tories had shot, they the tories have had shot, they decided to the nhs by what's called the lansley reforms. this was set up vast internal was to set up a vast internal market that if you want, was to set up a vast internal market that if you want , get market that if you want, get anything done in the nhs nowadays you have bid against nowadays you have to bid against another ccg, another group another ccg, another care group and tried the market. and we've tried the market. we've tried this breakdown , we've tried this breakdown, we've tried this, this assimilation. i what we need to do once subject above all do if once subject above all this needs to be this really needs to be a cross—party one where we realise this is just too big. you mentioned the linking with primary care to help with

delayed discharge carry all those issues come together and i have to say if ever ever there was a time for us to actually put i think as i said the other day, you know if we don't bury our differences we're just going to bury our family we've got so this is this is the problem though, isn't emma? because though, isn't it, emma? because we need a cross—party we say we need a cross—party consensus all come consensus. we need to all come together. a life or together. this is a life or death something our death issue. it's something our country and of course country respects and of course relies on to be fit and healthy but it doesn't seem like the nhs is used as anything other than a political these days in the house of commons. anyway that's exactly it. it's too politically useful as an instrument to bash the opposition , particularly the opposition, particularly because it is a divisive issue and because it is a sacred cow, because the on either side of the house, both know that this is something that is sensitive for the british. and because the issue is complicated, it's also a very easy issue to misrepresent when it comes to the other side, too, to suggest the other side, too, to suggest

the other side, too, to suggest the other side's solutions are ridiculous and. that is partly because nobody at this has proposed a decent solution for the radical reform of the nhs that we really clearly . stephen, that we really clearly. stephen, is it the that the government has to tackle vested when it comes to actually reforming the nhs as you . it's such a massive nhs as you. it's such a massive beast it employs so many different people on, all sorts of different jobs, management course, frontline staff etc. etc. some people look at the massive budget that continues to rise real terms, perhaps not by enough , but it does continue to enough, but it does continue to rise and think why isn't more of that money going to the doctors? well, yes, yes . i that money going to the doctors? well, yes, yes. i mean, that money going to the doctors? well, yes, yes . i mean, the well, yes, yes. i mean, the reality is the nhs is, the third biggest employer in the world. i mean, i think you've got the chinese army and the railways are slightly than us. but are slightly bigger than us. but they'll be and they'll always are slightly bigger than us. but they hybrid and they'll always are slightly bigger than us. but they hybrid nhs hey'll always are slightly bigger than us. but they hybrid nhs ifey'll always are slightly bigger than us. but they hybrid nhs if you always are slightly bigger than us. but theyhybrid nhs if you remember the hybrid nhs if you remember when an and bevin addressed when an hour and bevin addressed this the he this outright founded the nhs he couldn't get the consultants he couldn't get the consultants he couldn't gp's on board couldn't get the gp's on board so had to have the expression so he had to have the expression

he the consultants you he used with the consultants you had choke their mouths with had to choke their mouths with gold and allowed to gold and he allowed them to carry practise. gold and he allowed them to carrcan practise. gold and he allowed them to carrcan be practise. gold and he allowed them to carrcan be trained practise. gold and he allowed them to carrcan be trained a practise. gold and he allowed them to carrcan be trained a practiby you can be trained a doctor by the nhs then can go and run the nhs but then can go and run your own private practise and keep the money. similarly, gp are nhs. they are not part the nhs. they they're self—employed the they're self—employed and the gp's a annual salary. gp's on a decent annual salary. but they are self—employed, have their so you've got their own people. so you've got all , including all these issues, including the ones actually touched on. so ones you actually touched on. so i really and truly i think that really and truly it's not a coincidence that there's country the there's no other country in the world operates the same world which operates the same system we do . and i, when i system that we do. and i, when i look at some of the insurance places look at places themselves, look at germany, at spain, germany, france, look at spain, where very, where you actually have a very, very a probability very good a higher probability of treated in particularly of being treated in particularly in and kansas. that was then in a&e and kansas. that was then i think maybe this is maybe the third rail in british politics. you it at your peril statement we've got to get through it so frustrating hearing you talk about models in europe about different models in europe that being used because . the that are being used because. the labour party often members of the labour party seem to always take the view or at least they say in public that that means no, we'd be moving to a us style

privatised system that would leave people essentially sick without hope of treatment . without hope of treatment. that's a very disingenuous genuis it not emma , if everybody genuis it not emma, if everybody in the labour party was like was like stephen held stephen's views that i say maybe maybe the labour party were the party to save the nhs . i think we do need save the nhs. i think we do need to be looking at different models. i keep agreeing stephen, every time, every time we're i think we do need to be looking at different models . what's so at different models. what's so frustrating about the critics is the very often their diagnosis correct, but their prescription is wrong. so we all know that the nhs does need radical reform but what it doesn't need is what the what labour party and those striking keep suggesting which is more money to be thrown at it . we need to deal with is the umbrella achievable inefficiencies in the system and the fact that we have some fat cats in who are earning cats in the nhs who are earning ridiculous salaries for frankly jobs in nature , rather than that

jobs in nature, rather than that money being given to those on the front line, you know, the nurses, the hospital porters who really need it, you know, there are so many ways in which you could trim the fat, the nhs. but the problem is because it has become this sacred shrine that nobody can no politician really had the guts to do that. and so you end up with is this sort of scraping of the surface and tinkering around problem, which is what today's meeting probably will and everybody agrees will be. and everybody agrees that we don't need a talking shop. but we need is shop. but what we need is firstly brave politicians to firstly the brave politicians to radically suggest real serious reforms to deal with those inefficiencies . and we also need inefficiencies. and we also need the willingness of those within the willingness of those within the nhs and the british public to support those reforms because this is unsustainable . if it this is unsustainable. if it keeps going on, people will die . yeah, i think you're absolutely spot on there. but i also a concern, stephen and many of us wish to see the nhs change that will take many years , will that will take many years, will take a very strong, bold

competent and brave government to do so, which the conservatives have failed to do , as far as i can see , but we , as far as i can see, but we have a very deep problem within the nhs at the moment in terms of morale the bma of course that will have its maybe self—selecting this particular, but it does say four in ten junior doctors plan to quit the nhs as soon as possible and that is of deep concern. these people are either abroad or they're going into completely different sector . if don't you, don't you sector. if don't you, don't you think that somebody trained by an organisation like nhs actually owes something. well you know, but look let me just you know, but look let me just you a little scintilla of hope, you a little scintilla of hope, you know, a little bit of sunlight coming through here. for the first time in my political lifetime. and bearing in i've been the in mind i've been in the parliament when independents have been elected, you had doctor dr. taylor who was elected on of save elected on the basis of save kidderminster hospital in the doyle. you've got five irish tds elected to save local hospitals. it is third rail but what wes streeting is saying that marvellous expression you know

it's a service, not a shrine . it's a service, not a shrine. this represents finally some sort of a sea change in labour's attitude . we can't carry on attitude. we can't carry on worshipping the nhs because we're going be worshipping we're going to be worshipping an empty. going be empty. there's going to be nothing just bone. nothing there, just bone. yes, and will remember matt and we will remember matt hancock shiny badge . he hancock with a shiny badge. he looked like he was in a school uniform badge on uniform with his little badge on his school. i love his first day of school. i love the or love the nhs or the nhs or we love the nhs or nhs variants on a theme . anyway, nhs variants on a theme. anyway, please do stay with us both because we'll be coming straight back maps back to you to talk about maps in just one moment. political commentator with of commentator webb with us, of course, and labour mp course, and former labour mp stephen you very stephen powell. thank you very much now. but we're going to much for now. but we're going to be on to something a be moving on to something a little are many little drier. there are many reasons attempting reasons people may be attempting january new year financial january this new year financial related or perhaps curing related or perhaps just curing ocd. i lost it yesterday evening. i must admit myself. the hope is getting through the 31 days will be easy, but for others it may be slightly more challenging. and what about hospitality businesses need support after a difficult support after such a difficult time during covid and beyond. our north of england reporter sophie reaper has been finding

out about an alcohol ative that may the next and a half may make the next and a half weeks that little bit easier. let's shaken not stirred and completely numb . alcoholic for completely numb. alcoholic for those giving dry january try this new year. could alcohol free drinking be an alternative way to stay sober for the entire month is really really important .dnnkis month is really really important . drink is not about abstinence . it's about everyone who loves alcohol . i like a drink alcohol. i like a drink a weekend, but there's times you can't drink . but it's all about can't drink. but it's all about fun . having fun with your fun. having fun with your friends when you can't drink and not feeling excluded. so social socialisation and different is what it's all about . people may what it's all about. people may have a variety of reasons for choosing not to drink this month. health money even just the challenge of smashing an alcohol free isn't for january.

alcohol free drinking is here to stay and it's not about 31 days. it absolutely is not about just dry january . let's use dry dry january. let's use dry january as a vehicle to get people introduced to alcohol free drinking. but really alcohol free drinks all the year round every day of the week. some people and it should be every month of the year. the first try. january took place in 2013 with just 4000 people participating . last year that participating. last year that figure rose to 130,000. and although numbers continue to rise , just how many of us would rise, just how many of us would stay sober for the full 31 days? we're in dry january. stay sober for the full 31 days? we're in dry january . do you we're in dry january. do you think you could do it? no yeah, i definitely think so. i you know, if you put your mind to something, you can achieve anything, really. and it's not that hard to go to the pub. probably money anyway. probably save some money anyway. i could. i haven't i think it could. but i haven't this already failed . this year. i've already failed. i i won't do it. do i could do it. i won't do it. do you think you could it? i you think you could do it? i hope so, because i'm trying. i'm trying my to do it. don't

trying my best to do it. i don't think. no. is much of a social aspect because it's the only time to some of my time get to see some of my friends sometimes. lot friends sometimes. so a lot easier go out drink, be easier to go out drink, be inside someone nice and warm. for january could be for many dry january could be quite a challenge but alcohol free may an answer sometimes you get home from work midweek if going from training or whatever and you fancy drink . and you fancy having a drink. you you've got your family you know you've got your family for the morning it for work in the morning and it just gives alternative to just gives you an alternative to that, than a glass of that, you know, than a glass of cordial or, you know, a cup of tea something. it's almost tea or something. it's almost like without the like the real thing without the sort problems in the morning sort of problems in the morning with a weeks left with three and a half weeks left to go january, some may to go of dry january, some may complete it and others may not. but at least they all had bottle to try. sophie retha . gb news to try. sophie retha. gb news what i find quite interesting how many young people have completely turned off the booze . i don't know whether they're taking drugs instead. hopefully not, but it does seem like a lot of them are going teetotal , or

of them are going teetotal, or at least not drinking as much as perhaps me and friends did when we were teenagers . anyway, on we were teenagers. anyway, on another note of you have been sending in your thoughts on the topics we've been discussing today on the nhs. christine has today on the nhs. christine has to saying the prime to us saying the prime minister's promise to reduce waiting lists is absolutely pathetic. it take more than pathetic. it will take more than reducing waiting to reducing waiting lists to fix the problems in the nhs. but christine it would be a pretty good start. those waiting lists are absolutely horrendous . i are absolutely horrendous. i take it seems like take your point. it seems like everyone story everyone has a horror story recently about their treatment and on strikes says in my opinion it's about time our government got tougher with . the government got tougher with. the unions. it's not acceptable to be to as be holding country to ransom as they at the moment. you they are at the moment. you know, it seems this country, none of us can agree on anything . a division in . there is such a division in how this strike strike how we view this strike strike action. some people are very much team strike team mick much on team strike team mick lynch, bma others. and lynch, team bma others. and i just want to be able to get to work on time it seems. anyway and we've got another comment on prince harry. this time he revealed his kill count in afghanistan. michael says i

served in the royal navy , had served in the royal navy, had the pleasure of hosting the sas , royal marines and army on board the ships i was on board some the ships i was on and no one mentioned or bragged about how many killed . it about how many they'd killed. it was a taboo subject. harry has a target on all service. people at home and abroad. know. don't use any exaggeration. it seems absolutely ludicrous that he thought it was for him to mention that in his and potentially open us up to threats of a reaction in some way or another . anyway, thank way or another. anyway, thank you very much indeed for sending in your views. please do keep them coming. i love reading them out moving to out so i'm going to be moving to another that was covered another topic that was covered in week, but i thought in the press week, but i thought we as we should. digging deeper as rishi teacher has rishi sunak's maths teacher has been out in the press saying that rishi has got it very when it compulsory maths it comes to compulsory maths lessons for people to the age of 18. now is something he mentioned in his first speech of 2023. he said the uk needed to reimagine its approach to numeracy . added he wanted young

numeracy. added he wanted young people to have the necessary skills to feel confident with finances and things like mortgage deals . that sounds fair mortgage deals. that sounds fair enough to be honest, but with ongoing industrial action, a cost of living crisis and record nhs backlogs , is this a nhs backlogs, is this a worthwhile priority ? is it like worthwhile priority? is it like a circle ? totally pointless ? his a circle? totally pointless? his former teacher certainly thinks so. so still with me to debate this all political commentator emma and former labour mp stephen pow. now emma i'm not sure maths was your top subject at school it but do you think you could have done with a little more a little more coaching up to the age of 18. you know me too well, emily, as you know. well, i can't count . you know. well, i can't count. but that's why firstly , i would but that's why firstly, i would have been absolutely tortured , have been absolutely tortured, have been absolutely tortured, have been absolutely tortured, have been forced to do maths to 18 . but i think this is very 18. but i think this is very much like the situation with the nhs because it's scratching the surface . rishi is focusing his surface. rishi is focusing his attention on post 16 education. obviously people don't have to continue their education to 18.

people should be leaving school at 16 within necessary mathematical skills and i think that really he should be focusing his attention firstly not just on maths, knowing the quality of education. the board because he went to winchester college know as his own maths teacher with he had a very rarefied and privileged maths curriculum that most people not only have but receive themselves only have but receive themselves on excellent . we already have on excellent. we already have only 45% of the schools around the country have a dedicated mass people. so that is a chronic shortage. so it's not clear how this be clear how this would be practically possible. and but there's also so many other problems in education become a little many pointed out in the telegraph that after after lockdown and the covid measures we a serious problem with absentee in schools so those students are not even getting maths in the first place. never mind . so i think his priorities mind. so i think his priorities are all here. and of course getting a good mass education. but needs to happen before the

age of 16. yes think so? we should concentrate on people , should concentrate on people, getting people literate and numerate before they leave school at 16 with no qualifications at all, which is the case for many, many children in this country. unfortunately stephen tweet perhaps being a bit harsh on rishi not really. he's done well out of the good education. he just wants everyone else to benefit. well, ihave everyone else to benefit. well, i have to say. can i just say one quick thing? i'm sorry, i realise you're in charge here, but the point that came in from a memo from someone from the royal talking about, having royal navy talking about, having the royal marines on board, i hosted royal made a boot next on board ship . and i'm still very board ship. and i'm still very active naval active in the royal naval association. i you me. association. i believe you me. every they about a body every day they about a body count but it's a body count of our our and women who our people, our and women who were you never ever, were killed. you never ever, ever talk the people you did kill, you know, as tim collins said, you know, we're not in the business on the rifle business of notches on the rifle but think prince harry but and i think prince harry really way needs really across the way he needs be utterly ashamed of himself on on mass. i mean still on the mass. i mean i still remember remember son

remember my dad say remember son it's the votes count. it's not the votes that count. it's counting of the votes it's the counting of the votes that counts and there's a certain importance to do with that. but i think what she's actually fundamental, actually made fundamental, terrible mistakes. firstly assumed that there's a spare capacity in teaching . my capacity in teaching. my daughter's a high school teacher in greenwood , and if i said in greenwood, and if i said that, going have to push that, going to have to push you to your okay. point, to get your point. okay. point, because can't load because you can't you can't load more teachers. and more work onto the teachers. and how going persuade how are you going to persuade some 16 year old some recalcitrant 16 year old who to up who just wants to get up and learn trade? can have learn a trade? you can have another years of maths, another two years of maths, stats quadratic equations. stats and quadratic equations. i know what the answer would be around miserable around my way. miserable for people. everyone people. i feel like everyone reaches a ceiling. it comes to maths that you just can't go beyond mathematical beyond the not of mathematical mind , thank you much mind anyway, thank you very much indeed. to give you indeed. i was going to give you a problem, but run out a math problem, but we run out of it's co—commentator of time. but it's co—commentator and labour mp pound and 11. former labour mp pound with in the studio thank very with me in the studio thank very much indeed for your time. you are of course still watching real britain. plenty more coming up programme. but up in today's programme. but first we're going to have a little on the weather little check on the weather forecast looking ahead to this

evening's weather and the uk is looking breezy with bands of showers heavy at times and brighter spells between. here are the details . a blustery are the details. a blustery spell for the west country with scattered showers across the region on a fresh southwesterly wind. temperatures generally falling to between seven and ten celsius for london and southeast england. the evening will be rather breezy with the risk of some heavy showers and temperatures between and nine celsius. showery for south wales and cloudy at times . bands of and cloudy at times. bands of showers move in from southwest turning windy with temperatures between seven and nine celsius. birmingham and the west midlands are likely to see a band of heavy showers move eastwards across the region through the evening . it will turn rather evening. it will turn rather breezy with temperatures of around six or seven celsius. and as a story for northeast england where a band of showers heavy at times will move eastwards across region through the evening, turning breezy with temperatures of around or eight celsius.

southern will also see a few showers through the evening time with some clearer spells in between and light. moderate southwesterly breeze temperatures of between five and seven celsius. a moderate southwesterly breeze for northern ireland through the evening with areas cloud, a scattering of showers and clear spells. temperatures six or seven celsius. low pressure will continue dominate the uk's weather overnight . gales to the weather overnight. gales to the far north—west and further scattered showers and. that's how the weather shaping up .

yes. welcome back. this is real britain on your tv, radio and onune britain on your tv, radio and online i'm absolutely gutted. i didn't manage to get to that maths problem with steven pound and emma webb there. think and emma webb there. i think i'll them back the

i'll have to get them back the show one day so i can put a little it was it was an easy one but i think it may have stumped them pressure of them both under the pressure of being live television anyway. anyway, more anyway, there's plenty more coming i won't let coming up on today's i won't let you quite yet because we've you know quite yet because we've got to go straight to the news with tatiana . emily, thank you. with tatiana. emily, thank you. is 3:01? i'm tatiana sanchez in the gb newsroom, the prime minister is holding crisis talks with the nhs to try to ease the pressure on the health service . pressure on the health service. rishi sunak's discussing for critical issues at the nhs recovery forum with health experts and other ministers, including a social and emergency care. however he's been warned the talks are unlikely to reverse the current situation with senior doctors saying the nhs is on a knife edge and has speech of the new year. mr. sunak made reducing waiting one of his key pledges the next election. former health

secretary steven dorrell told it's important the nhs and the government have a clear view of what they want to achieve . we what they want to achieve. we can't sort out the health until we sort out the disputes that are currently disrupt the health service and it does have to be a plan as to how the government going to get itself out of the hole got itself into. on the senior managers of the health service that are coming into downing today they need have the party sorted out. they the money but then they need to be allowed the space to do the job. the rmt says rail companies at the heart of the long running dispute over pay of the long running dispute over pay have made hundreds of million of profits. the union the money has come from when the government private train operators new contracts during covid pandemic. it says some companies made a £310 million in tax payer funded profits between

march 2020 and september 2022. it comes as the rmt and 49 train operator continue their 48 hour walkout over paid jobs and conditions conditions. walkout over paid jobs and conditions conditions . a six conditions conditions. a six year old boy who was who shot and seriously injured a teacher . a primary school in virginia has been detained by police . has been detained by police. officers say the woman's injuries were initially thought to life threatening but her condition has improved in hospital . the chief police hospital. the chief police officer said the shooting was not accidental and the two had had what they called an altercation. it's unclear how the child got hold of the handgun. the child got hold of the handgun . russia's says its handgun. russia's says its forces would uphold its declared ceasefire in ukraine until midnight despite ukraine dismissing the truce as propaganda . ukraine has rejected propaganda. ukraine has rejected putin's ceasefire designed to give russian forces chance to rest and rearm during the orthodox christmas period , it orthodox christmas period, it says it would continue to try

and recapture its land. moscow says its defence had only returned artillery fire sent by ukrainian forces. returned artillery fire sent by ukrainian forces . mps have been ukrainian forces. mps have been urged to support leave for miscarriage . the proposal by an miscarriage. the proposal by an snp member would grant three days of statutory paid to parents who experience a miscarriage before 24 weeks of pregnancy. angela crawley says it would give parents the time needed to grieve. currently paid bereavement leave is only given following stillbirth after 24 weeks . in his following stillbirth after 24 weeks. in his memoir, following stillbirth after 24 weeks . in his memoir, prince weeks. in his memoir, prince harry, his role as prince william's best and his wedding was a bare faced lie. he reportedly says the role was fulfilled by the prince of wales as two closest friends. he also , king charles, feared , would , king charles, feared, would dominate the and steal the limelight from charles and camilla, while referring to his military days. harry says he killed 25 taliban fighters , a

killed 25 taliban fighters, a claim which has been criticised by the army and the taliban themselves . and flood are in themselves. and flood are in place across england and wales as heavy downpours are set to hit the uk overnight. there are 27 flood warnings in place . 27 flood warnings in place. england with six warnings in place for wales . the scottish place for wales. the scottish environment protection agency has issued six flood alerts for scotland scotland . this is gb scotland scotland. this is gb news will bring you more news as it happens. now it is back to emily emily . emily emily. thank you, tatiana . welcome to thank you, tatiana. welcome to a real britain with me emily carver. so here's what's coming up on show this afternoon. our latest gb news people poll revealed 57% of british adults have no at all that rishi sunak and the government can solve the small boats crisis. nearly

46,000 migrants crossed the channel by small boat in 2022. what do you think? do you think the government can get a grip on the government can get a grip on the crisis? i think they need to if they're going to win the next election, that's for sure. then prince harry brands, prince william, arch in memoirs. he william, his arch in memoirs. he admits he has always been in competition beloved competition with his beloved brother, arch nemesis, beloved to those to go hand in hand . to those to go hand in hand. this is all because of his role as the spare. but isn't it natural for brothers to fight? we'll discuss that with a psychotherapist. get her take on family feud. students family feud. and students accused the university of winchester after they . almost winchester after they. almost £24,000 on a life sized statue of greta thunberg of greenwashing . protesters say greenwashing. protesters say they won't be taken off the canteen menu . they want cheaper canteen menu. they want cheaper vegan options and they want buildings made more energy efficient rather than wasting money on meaningless statues . money on meaningless statues. these are not the same students who try to take down that they don't like now. they don't want one of their favourite women, the woman of their moment. anyway, we'll into that. so

that's what we're talking about for i'd love to know for the next. i'd love to know your the your thoughts on all of the topics, so please do tweet at topics, so please do tweet me at or email on gb views or you can email me on gb views at gbnews.uk. you can also watch us online to on youtube. and also don't forget facebook . also don't forget facebook. there's lots of brilliant content on the as well. stay tuned . right? rishi sunak has tuned. right? rishi sunak has a massive workload at the moment . massive workload at the moment. he not, but he does have a five point plan apparently to tackle the migrant crisis, including detaining every migrant who crosses channel in a small crosses the channel in a small boat. but despite the tough talk, it seems aren't convinced . our latest gb news poll revealed 57% of people surveyed said they weren't confident in the government's ability to get grip on the small boats crisis and. just 4, just 4% are either completely or fairly confident in the government's ability to solve the problem . this comes, solve the problem. this comes, of course, after almost 46,000

illegal immigrants crossed the channel last, with illegal immigrants crossed the channel last , with experts channel last, with experts predicting that 2023 could be another record breaking year for channel crossings . another record breaking year for channel crossings. i another record breaking year for channel crossings . i surveyed my channel crossings. i surveyed my twitter followers. well, gb news is followers only last week and 97% of you had no confidence in the prime minister to sort this issue out. 57% of the general pubuc issue out. 57% of the general public , they're a little more public, they're a little more soft. it seems . the poll also soft. it seems. the poll also revealed support for the conservative party remains at the historic low of 22. it's hardly surprising perhaps. so to give their reactions are conservative councillor claire pearsall me and research fellow at the boe , benjamin lock nine at the boe, benjamin lock nine here in the studio . so claire, here in the studio. so claire, you're in kent in some ways you're in kent in some ways you're on the front line when it comes to this i'm sure. what are you thinking when it comes to rishi sunak's plan . do you think rishi sunak's plan. do you think he's got the bottle. do you think he get this plan ? i think think he get this plan? i think that he's confident that he can do it. now, that will only take so far what you need now is for

the home secretary to . come out the home secretary to. come out and lay out her plans for how the home is going to enact the plans that rishi sunak has put out there. because it's one thing at the moment to have a such a promises and a to will it and quite another when it comes to actually doing it. so i believe that the prime minister does have that. he has it in his mind that he needs get this sorted before any election come around. but we really need the home secretary now to push through legislation which gives us those removal with other countries. otherwise you're not going to get anywhere . no, going to get anywhere. no, benjamin, that's a good , isn't benjamin, that's a good, isn't it? actually. so the home secretary's boss essentially has stood up and announced all these things, but she's then going to have to fulfil otherwise. presumably rishi sunak will knock on her door or indeed lay the blame at her feet. yeah, i think it's, you know, giving her a of a difficult task really to of pass the buck to her, suggesting it's her job to deal

suggesting it's herjob to deal with it when she's being given the proper support and also the are preparing deal are currently preparing deal with an influx of even more channel migrants over the next year or two years. for example, there about 440 hotels there are about 440 hotels across the country at the moment. currently migrants, but there's another 200 and something lined to house something being lined to house these migrants. well, if planning to get a grip on the issue start who have issue and start people who have no to here prevent the no right to here and prevent the boats crossing in the first boats from crossing in the first place, why need another place, why do you need another 200 hotels lined up? why do you need contract contracts with need to contract contracts with people last the people like serco which last the next years to deal with next few years to deal with these things? if really want these things? if you really want to on it, then why to get a grip on it, then why are preparing it to are you preparing for it to continue increase? and continue to increase? and i think things that think the real things that need to getting of to be done, like getting of these like dealing with these are like dealing with the human which prevents these are like dealing with the hufrom which prevents these are like dealing with the hufrom doing which prevents these are like dealing with the hufrom doing \of ch prevents these are like dealing with the hufrom doing \of things'ents us from doing a lot of things like deporting people . like like deporting people. like deaung like deporting people. like dealing with loopholes in dealing with the loopholes in asylum the massive asylum system and the massive backlog. and unless they start getting grips those getting to grips with those things. don't think they're going issue. and going to solve the issue. and i think talk at the think it's all talk at the moment. is the government moment. yes is the government being little duplicitous then being a little duplicitous then if benjamin is true ,

if what benjamin is true, they've got everything lined up more and more people to the channel and be put up in hotels and the security services are ready and waiting seems. are they telling us one thing, knowing full well that they're not going to be able to get a grip on this ? i think the real grip on this? i think the real problem none of this stuff quickly. so you all are going to need some kind of infrastructure in place because those boats are all going to come across , all going to come across, whether you like it or not, even if you put the laws in place, if you can get them through the house of commons in, the house of you've still got of lords, you've still got a penod of lords, you've still got a period of time where will period of time where you will have migrants coming have that of migrants coming over , seek but over to, seek asylum. but i think benjamin is quite right that the delays and the backlog in the asylum system don't help, because if you can sort house start removing those people out of the hotels you wouldn't need extra capacity . so i think a lot extra capacity. so i think a lot of things need to happen but unfortunately until you have those agreements and i think i've said this to you before,

emily, unless you have those three months, where you sending these people safe? yes and benjamin, why do we have this backlog, if this is one of the key things that needs to be resolved is it a of resources as some claim is it incompetence is it the number of legal challenges that come about when people essentially trying to decide someone has a genuine claim to be in this country or not what is going on. that means that we have thousands of people waiting to be sorted out. but i think, you know, the asylum system is fundamentally have system is fundamentally we have a can come in a system where you can come in here claim asylum. you put here then claim asylum. you put down your asylum down one reason for your asylum claim. rejected, you claim. if that's rejected, you can around another can turn around and another reason. sometimes these reason. and sometimes these claims can take up seven claims can take up to seven years when are years to process when are rejected that, seven rejected after that, seven years, you might turn around, give different stay give a different reason, stay for seven so for another seven years. and so you claims which you have asylum claims which have rejected it have already been rejected it being back to home being passed back to the home office again and office, be dealt with again and again again whilst again and again whilst people stay then after stay here. and then after a certain of time they put certain amount of time they put down they've got might

down roots. they've got might have had children here and they're good. so they're here for good. so the problem we're problem is actually that we're not not not just dealing, we're not saying every possible saying put down every possible reason for asylum reason you might have for asylum in and then we can in one claim and then we can deal once. and if you deal it all at once. and if you if you're rejected you're deported, get at deported, you get one shot at it. and you don't get you're it. and if you don't get you're gone. and if we had a system more that i think it would be a lot more effective. rather having round of having this merry go round of asylum claims where can asylum claims where people can continue sort of game the system for and never for year on on year and never get never get deported and just clog up the system with all of these backlogged get on the other of this debate, people often talk about how we don't have safe and legal routes for people to come to this . if we people to come to this. if we were to have that would mean that people wouldn't feel pressure to cross the channel. is that right right ? that is is that right right? that is right because unfortunately the only way to claim asylum if you're not part of existing routes that are set up, which are few and far between, the only way that you can do it is

to physically in the united kingdom . so i think a little bit kingdom. so i think a little bit of why you do thinking about with unhcr in refugee camps in those countries where refugees are currently, it doesn't mean just because you've placed an application, it doesn't mean you would be accepted into the united , but then you could work united, but then you could work on a more global scale and perhaps not come to the united kingdom . you might be welcomed kingdom. you might be welcomed into canada or france or germany , australia or somewhere else . , australia or somewhere else. so i think that you need to look a little bit wider at this and i think unfortunately we've become so consumed with what's happening in the channel, which is really of the problem of asylum system, whichever you look at it, people need be here to do it. so they are going to come into the united kingdom to put that claim through , but it's put that claim through, but it's not the reason for that. benjamin that there are potentially millions of millions, hundreds of millions

people who would like to move to this country. we know we have record numbers of people being displaced . we have record levels displaced. we have record levels of migration across the world. so the government has to find a way to be and be a bit choosy. yeah, i think the problem with this thinking is it's like saying you can prevent all crime by, crime. you by, legalising all crime. you know, something criminal, know, if something criminal, it's reason and it's criminal for a reason and we don't need safe and legal routes albania to the uk, routes from albania to the uk, we probably don't need safe and legal to legal routes from france to the they're in safe they're already in a safe country you the un country and you know the un convention on refugees actually says that un reaches a safe says that once un reaches a safe country shouldn't go seeking asylum elsewhere because then you get this thing called asylum shopping where people go and look which give look for the country, which give them possible and them the best possible deal. and we red carpet at we do roll out the red carpet at the moment. come we the moment. people come in, we taxi. the middle of taxi. the men from the middle of the take in, we the channel. we take them in, we give pizzas, put them up give them pizzas, we put them up hotels, we give them an allowance , save them, we allowance, save them, we feed that. basically them the that. we basically give them the best they're going best possible deal they're going to get anywhere. you know, it's much better than the situation they have in france, and that's why the crossings. if

why they make the crossings. if we incentivising we stopped incentivising the crossings crossings crossings i think the crossings would stop and instead of setting legal routes setting up safe and legal routes , actually admitting , i think is actually admitting defeat saying, well, if defeat and saying, well, if you're going to you might you're going to come, you might well anyway . well come by this route anyway. it's saying you can stop it's like saying you can stop burglary leaving burglary by just leaving your door like , you door unlocked. it's like, you know, going solve know, that's not going to solve the . that's going to the issue. that's just going to formalise legalise it. but formalise and legalise it. but it's still wrong and still it's still wrong and it's still abhorrent you very abhorrent. well, thank you very much benjamin lock now abhorrent. well, thank you very m|here benjamin lock now abhorrent. well, thank you very m|here in benjamin lock now abhorrent. well, thank you very m|here in the benjamin lock now abhorrent. well, thank you very m|here in the studionin lock now abhorrent. well, thank you very m|here in the studio with ock now abhorrent. well, thank you very m|here in the studio with me now abhorrent. well, thank you very m|here in the studio with me ,ow in here in the studio with me, research bow group research fellow at the bow group and very much for and also thank you very much for joining down the conservative joining us down the conservative councillor claire pearsall there. do me at home there. please do let me at home what you think about that you think routes are think safe and legal routes are the best option. do you think the best option. do you think the government needs to take more of a tougher line perhaps leave that as benjamin suggested . or is this just always going to be the case that people want to be the case that people want to move wonderful, lovely to move our wonderful, lovely but i'm not sure how wonderful it will stay if we have such porous but anyway , porous borders. but anyway, that's a thought to leave with you. very much both you. thank you very much to both of guests there now we're of my guests there now we're going to be moving on to something worrying the something rather worrying the world health organisation has

warned that a new variant of coronavirus named the does sound quite terrifying is the most transmissible one yet. that shows technical lead for covid. dr. marie kerkhove i think that's how you pronounce her name, expressed concern about the growth of this new sub variant of omicron, which has already arrived in us and is thought to be responsible for as many as four in ten new cases in the country. so we need worry the country. so we need to worry about however in terms of about this. however in terms of symptoms it appears to be just as mild as omicron. so that's good news there. so to lend his expertise on this is emeritus professor of bacteriology at the university of aberdeen , hugh university of aberdeen, hugh pennington. hugh, thank you very much indeed for taking time out of your afternoon. so what is this ? how worried we be ? this? how worried should we be? well, it's a variant of omicron, which has been around about a year. which has been around about a year . and omicron is much, much year. and omicron is much, much , but all of work before it . and , but all of work before it. and this one isn't really fundamentally different from the omicron variant, which says

quite a lot . it just shows a quite a lot. it just shows a property of being very transmissible and it doesn't by being very good it in fighting the nose also it's got a lot of mutations help it to evade the immune so if you've been infected with with a coronavirus or if you have vaccine that is correct and where it really is going to invade you again . that going to invade you again. that doesn't mean to say not. in fact, it's not nasty as the other variants . it shares our other variants. it shares our property with all the other omicron variants that are part the evolutionary process to help it get better at. growing in the nose means that it's not good at growing garden yellows, where the real mischief happens in. you know, in people with a hard with that with that with covid. goodness me. well there's so many viruses going around at the moment that it's probably hard

people to tell which one they've got. so much flu and got. there's so much flu and just general bugs kicking around. it seems that everyone at least on my train carriage when it's seems to be struck by a case of the sniffles, cough , a case of the sniffles, cough, cold, etc, etc. but there have been quite a lot of disturbing headunes been quite a lot of disturbing headlines as usual, been quite a lot of disturbing headlines as usual , this new headlines as usual, this new variant calls for more masking for even a bit of social stay at home, etc. we need to calm down. yes, i think need to calm down as this is this is not a variant concern because it's not going do any more mischief except that it's getting very, very it's already here anyway. it's already here anyway. it's already here anyway. it's already here in the uk and there's very little we can do to stop it becoming like in the us even commoner that's going to happen anyway. and of course we've pretty well given up on all the all the measures that we have all the lockdown type measures we had a good idea if

you have symptoms then you have go out. if you wear a mask to stop your virus infecting folk it just a kind of habit that's nothing compulsory about it. no going back to lockdowns and work and stuff . i think . unfortunate, and stuff. i think. unfortunate, you know, unfortunate i suppose it's something we just have to live with and most of us will with it quite happily. the people really at risk. other people really at risk. other people have always been at risk from covid. they . people who from covid. they. people who have problems with their weight and, people who have problems with , their immune systems, and with, their immune systems, and they'll be taking their precautions as they already are against infected and also in the knowledge that , even if they are knowledge that, even if they are infected, they're less likely. they're less likely to have a hard time with this virus . and hard time with this virus. and you know, and seasonal you know , flu peaks every now this time

. yeah. and i'm based it doesn't need going back to its old habhs need going back to its old habits so it's going to sorry to interrupt here but that sounds an awful lot like a common sense i don't think it helps that they call these variants names like the kraken which sounds like something absolutely hideously terrifying some kind of sci fi movie that you'd want to take in order to avoid, but thank you very much indeed. that was emeritus professor of bacteriology at, the university of aberdeen. hugh pennington thank you very much indeed for your time. so we could all take a sigh of relief and not worry too much least that's what too much at. least that's what he to say. so more to he has to say. so plenty more to come on real come this afternoon on real britain. break, we're britain. after the break, we're going prince harry, going back to prince harry, who's william his who's branded prince william his arch this memoir. he arch nemesis in this memoir. he says it's always been a bit of a competition with his beloved because of his role as the spad. oh, how terribly . but i'm going oh, how terribly. but i'm going to be asking it natural for brothers to fight. what's all the fuss about. we will discuss . but first, we're going to take

a little look at weather . a little look at the weather. looking ahead to this evening's weather. and the uk is rather breezy with bands of showers heavy at times and brighter in between. here are the details a blustery spell for. between. here are the details a blustery spell for . the west blustery spell for. the west country with scattered showers pushing across the region on a fresh southwesterly wind temperature generally falling to between seven and ten celsius for. london and southeast england, the evening will be rather breezy with the risk . rather breezy with the risk. some heavy showers and temperatures seven and nine celsius showery south wales and cloudy at times . bands of cloudy at times. bands of showers move in from southwest turning windy with temperatures between seven and nine celsius. birmingham and the west midlands are likely to see a band of heavy showers move eastward across the region through the evening it will turn rather breezy with temperatures of around six or seven celsius and as the similar story for northeast england where a band of showers heavy at times will move eastwards across , the move eastwards across, the region through the evening,

turning breezy with temperatures of around seven or eight celsius. southern scotland will also see a few showers through evening time with some clearer spells between and a light moderate southwesterly breeze and temperatures of between five and temperatures of between five and seven celsius, a moderate fresh southwesterly breeze for northern through the evening with areas of cloud, a scattering of showers and clear spells, temperatures six or seven celsius. low pressure will continue dominate the uk's weather overnight . gales to the weather overnight. gales to the far northwest and further scattered showers . and that's scattered showers. and that's how the weather's shaping up .

welcome back to real britain with emily carver way. of course as ever on tv, online and your digital radio. now in his new book, spare prince takes aim at his brother calling the prince

of wales his arch nemesis and accusing him of physically attacking him during an argument laying bare his frustrations about second fiddle to his brother . about second fiddle to his brother. harry said that he had always been in competition with his brother due to their roles as the heir and the spare. it seems he has no qualms with god for making him the second son. than anyone else. it it has led to speculation that harry will not hold anything back when it comes to airing his true feelings about his brother in both upcoming both the book and his upcoming interviews itv and good interviews for itv and good morning america , i'm delighted morning america, i'm delighted to say that i have got psychotherapist lucy beresford , psychotherapist lucy beresford, the studio, with me now to discuss some of those bombshell revelations . i think you can revelations. i think you can actually them bombshell actually call them bombshell revelations case. the revelations in this case. the docu a little bit a docu series a little bit a little bit dull , wasn't too much little bit dull, wasn't too much in there. there was a lot attacking media of attacking of the media and of the british people, actually. but have some but this does have some bombshells us bombshells and gives us an insight state insight into. harry's state of mind . well, the funny thing is, mind. well, the funny thing is, some of them are bombshells and some of them are bombshells and some them two brothers are some of them two brothers are maybe not getting on. that's not

such a confidential revelation because are so many families where sibling rivalry just ripples through the whole of their lives. so that isn't actually that surprising . what's actually that surprising. what's surprising is that he's chosen to write it all down, almost as if it is a revelation, as if he's the only person to suffer this idea , that actually i'm the this idea, that actually i'm the second son and i didn't get everything that i thought i might get, that that kind of tension for available emotional resources is what a lot of human beings would identify with. the problem is that now i may wrong. i haven't read the full book. not many us have, but some people in spanish, people in spain may well have. although i don't know how interested they would compared to brits , but would compared to us brits, but so i haven't i haven't read the book. but it does seem to me that prince harry is incapable of admitting that he gets things wrong, apart from his little sexual encounter behind a pub. well in a way, that's the role of writing a memoir, is that it's very much about putting

yourself of events. so you're very to necessarily talk about things that you thought you got wrong but true . i know, like wrong but true. i know, like i said, he wants to admit where you got things wrong to. he told you got things wrong to. he told you what he does. doesn't he? talks getting his talks about going getting his bodyguard to drive him through the tunnel in paris which he then identifies as perhaps a step too , that actually it step too, that actually it really brought to home the fact that his mother had died. that still paints him in a positive . still paints him in a positive. i mean, he's not willing to tell us anything that might put him or his wife in any way in a negative light. but that, again, is my point is that in some stories like this and some books like this that actually is the point, you want to put your side of events out there into , the of events out there into, the pubuc of events out there into, the public domain. and that begs a question of what you would want to there the public to put out there in the public domain. but there something domain. but there is something very , very sad about. how much very, very sad about. how much of this is around the grief that is still being processed ? it's is still being processed? it's around the resentments those two

things really fuel most of that book or certainly the extracts that i've read in english. so i don't know how good the translation. but this idea that you are someone who is still carrying the pain and the trauma of that. the only thing i would say is he may very well have processed that through therapy in years gone by, but certainly of the book and perhaps the documentary as well has removed verbalised a lot of that emotion. and i don't know how healthy that is for him . yes, healthy that is for him. yes, i mean, it's very sad that he clearly holds so much resentment for so members of his own family, including father, of course , and he is willing to course, and he is willing to these lengths to, as , say, put these lengths to, as, say, put his side of the story. but we have also read and it has been reported that right until the point of publication, really he was having cold feet worrying, is this the right thing to do ? is this the right thing to do? is this the wrong thing to do? and of course, the money money must . and he was already

must talk. and he was already committed but perhaps how do you think he's probably feeling at the moment? well, the interesting of events, as i understand it, interesting of events, as i understand it , that when he was understand it, that when he was over for the plot, when the platinum jubilee was taking place, he had a change of heart and thought, actually, maybe i shouldn't publish this book. but by the time he was over in the uk , then queen died and uk, then the queen died and there was clearly a lot of things that happened within the family . for example, him wanting family. for example, him wanting to go balmoral with meghan and being told that meghan wasn't welcome. things like that probably made him think, you what i actually do want to pubush what i actually do want to publish my book but it's hardly surprising that she was told she wasn't if that indeed wasn't welcome if that is indeed after all revelations and after all the revelations and after all the revelations and after all the revelations and after all of the fighting with william and kate from what we've read anyway, but something that is a little bit strange and we were talking about this in the break. so i to ask you on air is he there's a there's this. he says he kept this lock of hair of his mother in his bed saw it

in his nightstand. and he said that it he felt helped him conceive . that's very bizarre. conceive. that's very bizarre. what do you the i don't actually think that that's as strange as that sounds although written down. it probably does look a little bit weird to me little bit weird to help me conceive. yes. but basically, we're somebody we're talking about somebody whose when he was whose mother died when he was incredibly young. he wasn't an adolescent by the time died. and so for him , this woman has so for him, this woman has always been the perfect mother. he never went the adolescence that the rest of us go through, which is where you start testing unhealthily separate from your parents you start to think they're completely useless . they they're completely useless. they don't understand you. i wish i'd never born. the never been born. you're the strictest i've ever strictest parents i've ever known. and i want to kind of move away and start to, have friends and role models in other ways. he never had that. he's actually had this lady in his life. he still calls her mum affect the perfect figure. that i probably more to do i think is probably more to do with upbringing . but i, with his upbringing. but i, i think the idea that you have

something in your life that is a memento that's very and reminds you of someone who you've always thought of as totally good . it's thought of as totally good. it's a very it's quite child like black and white thinking here but this idea that this woman bnngs but this idea that this woman brings all the good things that you want in your life and people pray , i think for things to and pray, i think for things to and they pray in ways that maybe those people who don't have faith very bizarre but for this man , this is obviously a real man, this is obviously a real anchor for him and i think that's why but i think relationship i think a lot of slightly odd projection a feeling meghan may well be his mother reincarnated. i don't think that's an exaggeration . it think that's an exaggeration. it does much feel like that does very much feel like that when watch him in these when you watch him in these interviews and when read of interviews and when you read of this this book. anyway, this of this book. anyway, we have this thank have to finish this sadly. thank very lucy barris. very much indeed, lucy barris. but with but in the with me, psychotherapist giving us her analysis what we know far and analysis of what we know far and this bombshell revelations from prince harry's spare. thank prince harry's book spare. thank you very much indeed for your time. so know, with gb news time. so you know, with gb news on and radio after the on tv and dab radio after the break, student have accused the

university winchester of university of winchester of greenwash . that's after they greenwash. that's after they spent greenwash. that's after they spen t £24,000 apparently on spent £24,000 apparently on a life sized statue of greta thunberg. what do you make of that ? we'll get stuck into that that? we'll get stuck into that after news tatiana . after the news with tatiana. emily thank you. this is the latest from the gb newsroom the prime minister is holding a talks with the nhs to try to ease the pressure on health service. rishi sunak's four critical issues that the nhs recovery forum , including social recovery forum, including social and care. however he's been warned these talks are unlikely reverse the situation. we've senior doctors saying the nhs is on a knife edge. mr. sunak has made reducing nhs waiting lists one of his key pledges before the next election . the rmt the next election. the rmt claims rail companies the government put on new contracts the covid pandemic have made

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gb news welcome back home emily carver on watching real britain on gb news on your tv online and digital radio. now this is a bit of a strange one. students at the university of winchester have condemned what the university's hierarchy for spending university's hierarchy for spendin g £24,000 on a life size spending £24,000 on a life size statue of greta thunberg. you would have students would like it, but no, the have accused the university of greenwash and neglecting their commitment to

the environment, saying they want to be taken off the canteen menu. they want cheaper vegan opfions menu. they want cheaper vegan options and they want to make buildings more energy rather than spending money, meaningless statues . i'm so glad than spending money, meaningless statues. i'm so glad i'm than spending money, meaningless statues . i'm so glad i'm not at statues. i'm so glad i'm not at university anymore anyway. locals have expressed at locals have also expressed at the statue as the swedish activist has no connection with winchester. funny that to give his thoughts on the story, i am delighted to say that i have comedian host of the trigonometry podcast , frances trigonometry podcast, frances foster here the studio with . foster here in the studio with. thank you very much indeed , thank you very much indeed, frances. i'm interested to know your reaction to this story is . your reaction to this story is. well, first, can we just say the statue is utterly appalling? i artistically, it's all look like. does it? no, it doesn't look like her and it's just in this weird can do it position that looks like she's kind of suffered a anyway apart suffered a stroke anyway apart from that what it does it really beautifully encapsulate how completely disconnected the people running the university with the people that they support . they're supposed to be support. they're supposed to be managing in the best or you know

best interests in the best interests. that is what is effectively showing . and the effectively showing. and the reality is you're going effectively showing. and the reality is you're goin g £24,000 reality is you're going £24,000 for this statue walk . could for this statue walk. could £24,000 actually do in the university. we in the cost of living crisis. there's loads of working class kids who are probably looking at universities going, you know what , i'd love going, you know what, i'd love to go to university . the reality to go to university. the reality is i can't afford it. when i was a teacher, i taught in lot of depnved a teacher, i taught in lot of deprived areas. i taught in newham. taught in places like newham. i taught in places like horley. and there was a lot of who academic , who were really academic, gifted, but because they come from one parent households or they didn't a lot of money, they felt that the they left school they earn felt that the they left school they had to ear n £24,000 they had to earn £24,000 a month, just not went scholarships. yeah, but this is quite what what's quite interesting is that these students it to go students are asking for it to go to for laptops, for to scholarships for laptops, for underprivileged children. they want to go on to be free. many i know. i know . and that's the know. i know. and that's the thing that drives me up the wall, because, look , i

wall, because, look, i understand climate is important. of course it is . but these of course it is. but these little tokenistic gestures aren't going to make a massive difference to climate change. things like actually helping class kids get to universal things, providing subsidies for them. you know, you can transfer children's or and young people's lives. well, so you would have hope that some of these student students might be the bright young minds. know. young minds. i don't know. great. an institution. university of winchester is i'm going say i'm sure it's an going to say i'm sure it's an excel and one would have excel and one you would have thought of might thought some of might be the young, bright might young, bright minds who might lead us of all this climate change but know what change stuff. but know what was quite at quite interesting? so was at this article explains this article that explains the story. the university of winchester issued a statement saying that it embodies social justice for people, animals and planet. the three key values of compassion, individual matter and spirituality. so the university of winchester believes it embodies social justice for everyone. well, and indeed, to talk , first of all, indeed, to talk, first of all, it's allowed nonsense. and we

all know it, because if you want awesome and sat down and go, how do you embody social justice for animals? i mean, what does that even mean? social justice for animals. what you go out and, ask a cat what it thinks about or whatever else, but the reality is it just shows academic because the purpose of academic because the purpose of a university it's sole purpose is to educate students just like for a school just like for a higher education college is not to embody justice and it shows how the upper echelons of these universities they all have the same way of thinking all believe the same thing . and actually the same thing. and actually there is no academic diversity whatsoever. no. and it's just these painful buzzwords , like these painful buzzwords, like social justice supposed to be a positive word. but the way it's overused by every tom, dick and harry who thinks they're doing something good for the world and who ends up often being divisive for divisive causes like black lives matter is just a load of

nonsense. it's so annoying. well, it is. and we've to the point now where these words people are using , they don't people are using, they don't mean what they used me and i actually is a really dangerous place to be think of the word racist now when i was growing up. i'm four years old. you don't look it. thank you very much. i've always growing up. if someone was a racist meant they were probably in an organisation . the national bnp . the national front, the bnp and they had very, very, um pleasant views about ethnic minorities . now, when somebody minorities. now, when somebody is racist , a lot of the minorities. now, when somebody is racist, a lot of the time it just means that they voted conservative or they're on the right of the political spectrum, even if they're an ethnic minority . so we've got to the minority. so we've got to the stage now where words that are being used, i don't know what they mean. also, what's interesting this story is that i would i don't know this for sure . i would imagine that some of these students who are very about this greta thunberg statue and won't options on the menu would be the same kind of students who would be in arms

about a statue of an old slave trader or someone who was linked so they'd want to bring down that statue. but they're also not happy about this statue of this wonderful young woman being erected. so they just don't want any statues. it seems more and maybe they're just something to be said for that. maybe we should have a discussion about do we need . i don't do we actually need. i don't know. but the problem is as well is statues and this privatised no school fully right wing would decide shows is that you're going to appeal to everybody you be the most woke progressive whatever term you want to use and you're always going to enrage certain subset of the population. and the problem is when you start pandering , which when you start pandering, which to me this is it's just going to upset people because they because they realise that you're not being authentic , because not being authentic, because your authentic thing to do is actually to make difficult

decision , difficult choices. and decision, difficult choices. and stand up for things like academic freedom , which a lot of academic freedom, which a lot of universities, unfortunately have refused to do. well, that would be nice . and i'm sure there were be nice. and i'm sure there were many professors at that university and students who roll their eyes , but they'd rather their eyes, but they'd rather just stay because it's not worth it . it's not worth the uproar. it. it's not worth the uproar. it's not the disagreement of know disagreeing on things, is it ? but some people i mean, it it? but some people i mean, it is for you. you've set up a podcast, but know to essentially do that. so ideas around all sorts identity , social justice, sorts identity, social justice, etc. if haven't listened to trigonometry or watched , it is trigonometry or watched, it is fantastic. francis speaks to many people of all different ilk, of all different industries, etc. etc. but they all have things in common. and one of those things is that sort of cancel culture , isn't it? of cancel culture, isn't it? well, absolutely because we've now to place where know now come to a place where know words of violence . we've seen words of violence. we've seen that when we've heard that used many, times when you take many, many times when you take

it to its logical conclusion. well, that means a stand—up comedian like me , if i'm going comedian like me, if i'm going to go out on stage tonight and i'm going to do a gig, if to go out on stage tonight and i'm going to do a gig , if my i'm going to do a gig, if my words are violent, then someone can respond with violence and they're justified in they're morally justified in doing because been doing. because i've been physically them by physically violent them by taking the mickey of them so then they can respond with physical violence. that's a very good way of putting it. yeah. and so where we are now is i said before would have stopped meaning they used to me and i actually is a very dangerous place to type the term woman now the left and with which i consider myself still to be paups. consider myself still to be paul's . i mean nobody on the paul's. i mean nobody on the left probably considers me to part of the left. unfortunately i mean, booted out. i think summarily i was going to say executed well. they'd like me to say . but anyway, digress. but say. but anyway, i digress. but you look at the woman. you you look at the term woman. you want somebody on that part of the political spectrum ? it the political spectrum? what it actually means they wouldn't be able give a clear of the able to give you a clear of the term no, and it's so funny term woman no, and it's so funny

because it's they, they, they try not to upset anyone . but in try not to upset anyone. but in so doing they end up upsetting probably the majority of people. so people should just say what they believe, shouldn't they really? and then we can battle it out and people can. the best argument, well, best argument should point . should win at some point. anyway, very much anyway, thank you very much indeed. i indeed. thank you for. i am francis trigonometry francis foster trigonometry podcast it it is available podcast it out. it is available onune podcast it out. it is available online and at a you know spotify things like that. thank you very much . now i'm things like that. thank you very much. now i'm going to be things like that. thank you very much . now i'm going to be moving much. now i'm going to be moving on something different. on to something quite different. although many although animal themed many animal sanctuaries throughout the uk are now at capacity . this the uk are now at capacity. this is due to the cost of living and with in unwanted with people handing in unwanted animals as the problem only animals as the problem will only get . animal shelters are get worse. animal shelters are now towards fostering now looking towards fostering scheme could take some of scheme which could take some of the pressure on northern ireland reported dougie beattie went along to one in newton newtown , along to one in newton newtown, ards . every year thousands of ards. every year thousands of britons introduced an animal friend their homes and. every year people such as catherine

cray have to pick up the pieces when those relationships break down. we are largest independent animal sanctuary in, northern ireland, and we are struggling to cope at the moment with the amount of animals coming in the door and we've got less going out well because everybody out as well because everybody struggling with the cost of living crisis . so it means living crisis. so it means anybody have anybody that would have been considering animal on considering taking an animal on full time is now having to look at finances, decide at their finances, decide and they it just yet. they can't do it just yet. christmas has come and gone and all around britain sanctuaries such as assisi find themselves at capacity . that's because at capacity. that's because homing doesn't always work and that sparked new way of thinking . so fostering would an agreement between a or an individual and ourselves take an animal on temporarily? it's not exactly the same rehoming. we still have to go through the similar kind of rehoming checks, but it's more a temporary arrangement where the animal come back to us. now, of course if you thought that animal was a great fit, you could definitely

come and that animal come back and rehome that animal on permanent basis. on a more permanent basis. but while get keep while fostering, you get to keep that care. that animal in your care. animals the beautiful bella hare as come from really loving home. and she's not coping very well in kennels . so ideally i want to in kennels. so ideally i want to get to her a foster home where she will be taken of in a she will be taken care of in a home environment of home environment instead of environment only environment where we can only offer care. so is offer such limited care. so is there any particular animals making their way back to care . making their way back to care. absolutely. everything unfortunately, we are getting mostly dogs back because lot of people wanted to get out and walk their dogs during covid and get an excuse to have a dog dunng get an excuse to have a dog during covid. we do we are seeing cats because of people have to bring their cats because no they can't afford to feed the cat and. also we have, you know, guinea pigs and rabbits come back as well because people don't actually realise that a guinea pig and a rabbit is a sentimental creature, has its own and will a lot of own needs and will a lot of looking after it's gone . and the looking after it's gone. and the days you could throw days where you could just throw a a touchstone bottom a rabbit at a touchstone bottom of it's not good

of the garden, it's not good enough. and welfare of these animals responsible. animals is your responsible. the company of an animal is a wonderful thing . but before we wonderful thing. but before we jump wonderful thing. but before we jump to any decisions i try. wonderful thing. but before we jump to any decisions i try . you jump to any decisions i try. you commit, mate . well, be the very commit, mate. well, be the very thing . dougie beattie . gb news. thing. dougie beattie. gb news. thank you very much, dougie beattie, for that very well. thoughtful thoughtful report there. i would love to foster an animal. i'd love to foster a little dog, but i. i fear my flat at the moment is a little bit pokey . but perhaps in bit too pokey. but perhaps in the future, definitely. good way to anyway. you have to go anyway. lots of you have been sending in your thoughts on the we've been discussing the topics we've been discussing on crisis. says on the migrant crisis. matt says i the government i doubt that the government be able the small boats able to solve the small boats crisis don't understand why. crisis. i don't understand why. how it be this difficult ? how how it be this difficult? how could it how can this be so difficult? i think lot of difficult? i think a lot of people would echo that sentiment does they telling does seem like they keep telling us keep telling us they to it they keep telling us they to it they keep telling us there's to us that there's going to be fewer boats crossing the channel but it never seems to materialise. as says, if we materialise. as alan says, if we were up legal were to open up more legal routes, many would we before

routes, how many would we before saying more millions saying there is no more millions want come? so the want to come? so the applications would be overwhelming. point overwhelming. that's the point i was i was making earlier to actually presume a plea. we have to be a bit choosy. there could potentially be hundreds of millions of people who would try and come the uk and sign up to come the uk because are such lovely but because we are such a lovely but we're also a very generous nafion we're also a very generous nation indeed. and prince nation indeed. and on prince harry, jane says how should be in next guinness of records harry, jane says how should be in managingrinness of records harry, jane says how should be in managing to 1ess of records harry, jane says how should be in managing to annoy records harry, jane says how should be in managing to annoy the :ords for managing to annoy the british forces and the british armed forces and the taliban in the same sentence? so i shouldn't laugh . but that is i shouldn't laugh. but that is very well put. i mean it is. what he's done is indeed not only himself further, but also , only himself further, but also, you know, the armed forces we rely on. it really was a very silly thing to do. so anything to . anyway, thank you very much to. anyway, thank you very much for sending in your views. please do keep them coming now to finish. i'm delighted that i have former conservative mp brooks with me the brooks newmark with me in the studio. he's revealed that he spent ove r £100,000 of his own spent over £100,000 of his own money on fleets of buses help 15,000 ukraine and escape their war torn country. the former mp

for braintree has said he was by the humanitarian work oskar schindler. and so nicholas , schindler. and so nicholas, dunng schindler. and so nicholas, during the second world war, they helped jews from the seas. and brooks newmark joins me in the studio now. thank you very indeed. now, i just wanted to follow on a bit from duke beattie's package , his report beattie's package, his report there the animals. yeah. there about the animals. yeah. how have you managed to save any ukrainian animals as well as people. well, i think what's really interesting is really interesting about this is you can tell a society by how it treats animals and particularly early on in the war when i was in bucha and border anchor as some of the villages which had been severely attacked by the russians the russians would deliberately use animals as , deliberately use animals as, target practise and so on but . target practise and so on but. there were a lot of strays around and. it was amazing to see a lot of the elderly who remained in those villages , you remained in those villages, you know, would put out bowls food and would feed the pets that were remaining there that had

effectively abandoned by their or had to be abandoned because the houses were blown up and so on. so you know, wherever i've beenin on. so you know, wherever i've been in ukraine, wherever there are strays , the local community are strays, the local community is really good. i think looking after those animals well, that shows that people's compassion, despite their which is white collar , is actually related to collar, is actually related to that. it's really honestly when i ask you remind me something, when i was a lot of people who i evacuated early that you know, they could only they only have two hands right in one hand they would have their luggage . a lot would have their luggage. a lot of them would bring with them a pet. their pets were so important to them as a form of security, emotional and so on. but we saw it , the withdrawal but we saw it, the withdrawal from afghanistan, did we not. yes, exactly right. exactly right. although, although in that case, i'm not sure i would continue over humans. yes. in this case, these were people leaving , their homes, bringing leaving, their homes, bringing two things that were really important to them, their possessions in one hand, and their pets the other. and i saw

time and time again and i've seen that time and time again, even more recently now, because we weren't supposed to be talking about animals. we weren't supposed to be talking about animals . we have talking about animals. we have only a couple of minutes left. so please do tell me what you have achieved and why it mattered so much to you . this mattered so much to you. this particular putin's invasion of ukraine. what what really mattered to you here ? well, i mattered to you here? well, i mean, you know , as i as i've mean, you know, as i as i've discussed before , i think i'm discussed before, i think i'm well number i've evacuated not 50 that i've evacuated. no. over 21,000 women and children mainly away from the war, the east and, the south and. what you know, what motivated me was as someone who's jewish in in my family's time of need during the second world war, in the run up the war, there were a lot of people stuck their neck out for us as jews and i sort of had this urge. it just of came up from somewhere to go out and do something . so while i started on

something. so while i started on the border with poland, after two weeks, i sort of thought, well, i'm going to move into ukraine itself . and then i went ukraine itself. and then i went to kyiv and. the vive is sort of moving people to the border. there then i move south to venecia and getting people from zafer easier who were coming up from mariupol. and then i ended up in kharkiv and dnipro and i probably spent most of my time there and i've had lots challenges. i've evacuated probably five orphanages, i've evacuate probably 250 amputees. in addition to the women and children . that's quite children. that's quite extraordinary. it's sadly. but we're coming to the end of our time, and i don't get to ask you any more questions, but perhaps we can do this again. any more questions, but perhaps we can do this again . okay. we can do this again. okay. very, good. thank you much very, very good. thank you much for in. and there's about for coming in. and there's about water books. new work has been on the internet if you want to checkit on the internet if you want to check it out because you've done some by the sounds some amazing work by the sounds of very indeed of things. thank you very indeed for the studio this for coming into the studio this day. been watching

for coming into the studio this day. britain been watching for coming into the studio this day. britain me been watching for coming into the studio this day. britain me emily watching for coming into the studio this day. britain me emily carver.1g real britain me emily carver. thank much indeed for thank you very much indeed for your company. for now, i will to leave you weather . leave you with the weather. looking ahead to this evening's weather and the uk is looking rather breezy with bands of showers heavy at times and brighter spells in between . here brighter spells in between. here are the details. a blustery spell for the west country with scattered showers pushing across the region on a fresh southwesterly wind. temperatures generally to between seven and ten celsius for london , ten celsius for london, southeast england. the evening will be rather breezy with the risk of some showers and temperatures between seven and nine celsius. showery for south wales and cloudy at times as of showers move in from the southwest turning with temperatures between seven and nine celsius. birmingham and the west midlands are likely to see band of heavy showers move eastwards across the region through the evening . it will through the evening. it will turn rather breezy with temperatures of around six or seven celsius. and as a similar story for northeast england where a band of showers heavy at

times will move eastwards across the region , the evening turning the region, the evening turning breezy with temperatures of around seven or eight celsius. southern scotland will also see a few showers the evening time with some clearer spells in between and a light moderate southwesterly breeze and temperatures of between five and seven celsius. a moderate southwesterly breeze for northern ireland the evening with areas of cloud a scattering of showers and some clear spells air temperatures of six or seven celsius. low pressure will continue to dominate the uk's weather overnight, bringing gales to the far northwest and further scattered showers . and further scattered showers. and that's how weather's shaping that's how the weather's shaping up king of breakfast up. he's the king of breakfast tv and he's back and to his throne. this is breakfast and gb news with eamonn holmes and isabel webster. good morning . isabel webster. good morning. it's a it's my favourite . set it's a it's my favourite. set your alarms . it's a it's my favourite. set your alarms. eamonn holmes back on gb news breakfast in ninth january at 6 am.

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