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your latest news headlines. good afternoon to you. it's 4:00. i'm karen armstrong , the gb newsroom karen armstrong, the gb newsroom the prime minister is holding talks with the nhs in an attempt to ease the pressure . the health to ease the pressure. the health service rishi sunak's discussing four critical issues , including four critical issues, including social urgent emergency care at the nhs forum alongside experts and other ministers. the nhs forum alongside experts and other ministers . however, and other ministers. however, he's been warned that talks unlikely to reverse the current backlog with senior doctors saying the nhs is on a knife edge. saying the nhs is on a knife edge . in his first speech of the edge. in his first speech of the new year , mr. sunak made new year, mr. sunak made reducing waiting lists one of his key pledges before the next election. shadow public health minister andrew gwynne says he hopes today's talks will have a positive outcome . everybody who positive outcome. everybody who has an interest in the national health service really should be around table trying to work out not only the short term measures that are needed to get us through the rest of this winter,

but also how we then put health and care on a sustainable footing, the kind of reforms that are needed, the kind of investment that's needed for the long term , not just sticking long term, not just sticking plasters , the rmt says. real plasters, the rmt says. real companies at the heart of long running dispute over pay have hundreds of millions of pounds in profits . the union claims in profits. the union claims huge profits are generated when . the government awarded private train operators new contracts dunng train operators new contracts during the pandemic. they say companies up to £310 million in taxpayer profits between march 2020 and september 2022. it as the rmt 14 train operators continue 48 hour walkout over pay ' continue 48 hour walkout over pay , jobs and conditions. police pay, jobs and conditions. police in the united states have arrested a six year old boy after he shot and injured a teacher at a primary school in the state of virginia . officers the state of virginia. officers say the woman's injuries were initially thought to be life threatening , but her condition threatening, but her condition has improved in hospital. the

chief of police says the was not accidental and the two had what they called an altercation . it's they called an altercation. it's unclear how the child got hold of the handgun . russia claims of the handgun. russia claims forces will uphold its declared ceasefire in ukraine until midnight despite ukraine the truce as propaganda . ukraine truce as propaganda. ukraine rejected president putin's ceasefire, saying it was merely designed to give russian forces the opportunity , rest and rearm the opportunity, rest and rearm dunng. the opportunity, rest and rearm during . the orthodox christmas during. the orthodox christmas period. kyiv has vowed to continue its efforts to retake its land. meanwhile, moscow says its land. meanwhile, moscow says its defence has returned artillery fire sent by ukrainian forces . and police have been forces. and police have been urged to support leave for miscarriage. the proposal by an s&p member would grant three days of statutory paid leave to parents who experience miscarriage before 24 weeks of

pregnancy. angela crawley it would give the parents time they to grieve. currently pay bereavement leave is only given following stillbirth after four weeks . in his following stillbirth after four weeks. in his memoir, following stillbirth after four weeks . in his memoir, prince weeks. in his memoir, prince harry claims his role as prince william's best man at his wedding was a barefaced . he wedding was a barefaced. he reportedly says the role was fulfilled by the prince of wales closest friends. he also suggests king charles feared meghan would dominate the monarchy and steal the limelight from charles and camilla . from charles and camilla. referring back to his military days. referring back to his military days . harry has pointed out days. harry has pointed out killed 25 taliban fighters a claim has been criticised by both senior figures in the british army and the taliban themselves. flood warnings are in place across england and wales . heavy downpours are set wales. heavy downpours are set to hit the country overnight. there are 27 flood warnings in place for and six more in place for wales . the scottish for wales. the scottish environmental protection agency

has issued six flood alerts for scotland . this gb news. we'll scotland. this gb news. we'll bnng scotland. this gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens . bring you more as it happens. now let's return to nana . now let's return to nana. good afternoon with me. i'm nana akua this gb news on tv , online akua this gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. it's 5 minutes after 4:00. trish for cash price . harry i gave cash price. harry i gave a blackout on the cause. i gave it a but in prince harry's words there comes a point when silence is betrayal . i wouldn't want him is betrayal. i wouldn't want him to think that betrayed him. besides even when you try and avoid despair , shut themselves avoid despair, shut themselves in your face seriously . is this in your face seriously. is this the behaviour of people who want privacy be left alone for privacy to be left alone for their own mental health? i'm prompted prince harry promote his coming release of his latest

fest spare. with sad little face and puppy eyes on the cover wants us to feel sorry for him again . woe is me my million again. woe is me my million dollar mansion in one of the nicest places on earth surrounded by a—listers a.k.a. oprah and barrack with my gorgeous wife. kids oh, by the way, i'm the son of the king so i'm prompted. he gives an interview to. anderson cooper. never heard of him. obviously, harry found somebody who was prepared sacrifice integrity prepared to sacrifice integrity a bradby. harry is a bit like tom bradby. harry is hardly going to let someone else get real questions, is he? the family motto is never complain , family motto is never complain, never explain. it's just never explain. but it's just a motto and it doesn't really hold a lot of complaining and a lot of explaining. yes, we expecting him to say that, but you, harry. but then harry continues through leaks . they will feed or have leaks. they will feed or have a conversation with the correspondent . and that correspondent. and that correspondent. and that correspondent will literally be spoon fed information and write the story and then the bottom of it. they will say that they've reached out to buckingham palace

for through leaks. is he for comment through leaks. is he talking about himself, leaking information? isn't doing the same thing. leaking stuff about . his memoir. can't see it. the contents of which are now trickling out due to an accidental mishap . spain, where accidental mishap. spain, where the released early . and the book was released early. and if the translations are . details if the translations are. details about how he lost his virginity in a field as he was tapped his behind afterwards and told to be on his way. his frostbitten penis how many people he has penis and how many people he has killed afghanistan killed in afghanistan comparing them on a chessboard. them to pieces on a chessboard. shanng them to pieces on a chessboard. sharing kind information sharing the kind of information that you'd your partner to that you'd tell your partner to shut if you overheard shut up about if you overheard them friends family them telling friends and family them telling friends and family the stuff that would put the sort of stuff that would put you off food at a dinner party. apparently his brother william knocked him to the when he heard about his marriage to meghan. yes, of course he did. he was trying to knock sense into you, boy at the mess you've boy. look at the mess you've made ever harry's made ever since. harry's complaining royal family complaining that royal family have remained silent. complaining that royal family have remained silent . which is have remained silent. which is protocol, the way . but that protocol, by the way. but that isn't true. in fact the isn't quite true. in fact the royal family is issued numerous statements to protect the pair

as hassles and wrinkles, process points out. we vogue . the points out. we have a vogue. the royal family issues . an royal family issues. an unprecedented statement about . unprecedented statement about. prince harry's girlfriend and vanhy prince harry's girlfriend and vanity fair. prince william issues a statement in support of prince harry and meghan markle's relationship . buckingham palace relationship. buckingham palace made a move to officially deny feud rumours surrounding kate and meghan markle. the court palace denies reports that meghan markle's dog was photographed mid—air, who what ? photographed mid—air, who what? so that means, say you leave this country , which, judging by this country, which, judging by the footage , your horror meant the footage, your horror meant for harry was a pretty planned escape. you go on to pray whilst your grandfather is dying and. bang on about someone being racist in the royal household. the queen puts out a statement. recollections vary whilst recollections may vary whilst tending a dying husband. a tending to a dying husband. a best for 70 years. best friend for some 70 years. you knock out interviews, podcast , a six part docu thing podcast, a six part docu thing where you promote it with load where you promote it with a load of unrelated images that won't

pass. this country pass. ofcom in this country prompting prime minister prompting our prime minister call for stricter regulation of streaming giants. and in you streaming giants. and in it, you much call britain racist . and in much call britain racist. and in this your latest whinge fest, your headline is scrap with your brother news flash brothers fight resolutely as normal all siblings argue and fight. i didn't fight with my brother because i was scared of him. but if i wasn't so scared if when i was younger we would have had loads and we sister. we loads of us and we sister. we were similar in age. so we loads of us and we sister. we more. we probably more fights. and what i mean my brother would not. so it's normal. all families because the royals families this because the royals don't mean they're not any different any of honestly different to any of us. honestly i've got five siblings and yeah , to be fair, we've tussled due to. you know who's the oldest august? the youngest . but it's august? the youngest. but it's normal. i said if you didn't tussle when know competition and things like that, you know you wouldn't be normal. yeah. definite yeah. i've seen it happen with . all my friends.

happen with. all my friends. that's completely normal . you go that's completely normal. you go on about a frostbitten penis , on about a frostbitten penis, cocaine and killing a load of people . you compare to chess people. you compare to chess pieces, which if was a chessboard, harry, you'd a pawn. and like a pawn, you'll be king. even the americans are sick of you. perhaps looking at the mess you've made number of staff between the two of you that you've managed to dispatch and the numerous books that don't , the numerous books that don't, that your theories make it in the best of lives. maybe, just maybe , your brother had a point maybe, your brother had a point . by all means, tell the truth . . by all means, tell the truth. you see it. but the goal, harry, to think that he deserves some sort apology. a joke, sort of apology. that's a joke, right ? and silence prince right? and silence in prince harry's view equals the point when silence is . let me help when silence is. let me help you, harry sometimes people stay silent for fear of saying things to inflame or put their foot in a situation, making it worse. in other instances , people stay other instances, people stay silent to avoid stooping the same low levels. perhaps this is

what the palace is doing. something that maybe you should consider doing. you can't force people to behave how you want them behave. complaining about common snark or selling information was doing exactly the same thing. there's simply no self—reflection . if only no self—reflection. if only harry and meghan would look in the mirror. creating a racket with drama only to be upstaged . with drama only to be upstaged. silence. for god's sake, people encourage him to by the book. the queen was right. never complain . never explain. because complain. never explain. because silence harry is the loudest noise in the theatre . right? so noise in the theatre. right? so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking, who do you trust. sunak or starmer? or perhaps none of the prime minister viktor the above. prime minister viktor sunak outlined a point sunak has outlined a five point plan country back on plan to get the country back on track, to halve track, including to halve inflation, which is probably going halve anyway going to halve anyway to grow the debt . cut nhs the economy, slash debt. cut nhs waiting times and tackle the

migrant crisis head on. whatever means. and is, of course, means. and that is, of course, as labour's counterpart sir keir starmer to take back starmer promised to take back control through devolution which to me was always a bad idea from the start by talking spending power from westminster to local communities. but who has right idea? you trust ? solve idea? who do you trust? solve the country's problems then stay with me because it is. it's time for up the body for a royal. round up the body language a weekend language expert. a weekend recess and royal biographer angela levin was joining me to pick apart the drama from the royal household . prince harry royal household. prince harry has made a series of sudden fashionable his fashionable claims in his memoir, spare . he thanked his memoir, spare. he thanked his brother, father , stepbrother. brother, father, stepbrother. the leaked extracts revealed that prince william allegedly assaulted his brother in an argument over. meghan markle. then because at 5:00 this then stay because at 5:00 this week, the talk conversation and perhaps this year your resolve is to find man or woman of your dreams. or maybe your relationship always going relationship is always going wrong. all you start something new. are you single year 2020? was it a big year? is it going

to be huge ? are you planning the to be huge? are you planning the lengths, the celebrities have already split mean including one direction star harry styles and olivia wilde. family and relationship expert natalia kovalenko will be in the studio life that's on the in the next houn life that's on the in the next hour. tell me what you of everything we're discussing. email vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet me . gb news. all right, let's me. gb news. all right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel. broadcaster and, columnist lizzie cundy and, also political commentator sam dowler. welcome back. i'm sam came back. you're much in the background. we do that . thank background. we do that. thank you. always nice to see you back. and we're all friends then we thought this would be fun. i know . now, lizzie, what did you know. now, lizzie, what did you think? i mean, i know you you know, you've met markle before. have you met harry? yes, i have met harry before in south africa at the world cup. he was actually starting next week in the the where we staying the in the where we were staying

, the wonderful hotel in johannesburg . and so on many johannesburg. and so on many occasions and new friends of harry's and was out with mike help meghan when she first came to london actually . what would to london actually. what would you make of this thing because he's giving he's basically given a slowed down and pretty much everything don't everything things you just don't say them . want me say he's pulling them. want me to at violet that let me to look at my violet that let me just tell you i know i was actually quite shocked because not only spiteful and it's revenge . it's nasty. it's revenge. it's nasty. it's wicked. it's hurtful. but most of all, it's dangerous. and i'm talking about killing 25 of the taliban. does he realise what he's saying? because this is absolutely what you do not do when you've served for your country and the army. and i spoke to someone that was on three tours with him, colonel tim collins is absolutely with with how he's speaking . it's with how he's speaking. it's something you never do. it goes against the grain of being in the army and everything you stand for. he's got 100 steps back, but he's also put not just

himself one acuity risk. the others he was in the army with these other comrades and also his family and this country. well it's a huge security must protect him. and obviously there would been a huge operation to protect him . and, you know, it protect him. and, you know, it was a great risk for them even being around it for him to just see that he's still there. some people will be able to work out who him. what do you who was with him. what do you think boggles think some it's just it boggles the mind , really. first of all, the mind, really. first of all, i you know, there were reports , i you know, there were reports, the reports initially after the platinum jubilee that he wanted to back the book. but to yank back the book. but obviously ship has sailed. and i think it quite possibly was a case of , you know, people say, case of, you know, people say, you know, you if you're anger, don't send the email, don't send the text, sleep on it. but i'm so i think this is a very angry man and you know and he feels very and obviously thing about being the second in command the spare a really with him spare is a really home with him but for it's just spite but for it's just the spite awfulness and the hypocrisy even

little things like like saying about william's hair example. i mean, like, you know, the bold face, his hair his hair today had had today gone tomorrow. anyway but it's like but obviously, like at least has but for a man is really is really emotional. so to put that there about in front of about his brother in front of everybody my mum this my mum everybody my mum has this my mum has thing that was gay. has this thing that she was gay. so don't say about so when i don't say about family business, family business, which is like even say , is important, like even to say, to to a friend or to one another to a friend or something to the something but this is to the whole world and. it's as at whole world and. it's and as at a time in uk where, you know, things aren't great with the government, with the economy, with, you know, the nhs, everything like he's not even thinking of his people because this this is, this giving this is, this is, this is giving us collective anxiety. some people would say that he is entitled to have his truth. those have written those are people have written stuff him. he can have his stuff about him. he can have his it's stuff about him. he can have his wsfime stuff about him. he can have his it's time for his say so he's doing they've all done and he's making of like making money out of just like they he is not a they are. and also he is not a working royal anymore. so he's entitled to do that. this is, you know , hate these words. this

you know, hate these words. this is my truth. word you know what? for harry, they are. they can't speak back. william charles cannot answer what he's saying. how do they know ? we know this how do they know? we know this is true. look their record from the past , there have been many the past, there have been many lies that they've told on the oprah interview that what we know was another groundbreaking gobsmacking . but sadly, what gobsmacking. but sadly, what he's done to his brother is almost unforgivable . i don't almost unforgivable. i don't ever see them ever reconcile after it's the king charles was jealous . camilla was jealous. jealous. camilla was jealous. everyone was going to listen to how you sound, harry. not everyone was jealous of meghan. no, they don't . they don't want no, they don't. they don't want to you and they're not to be you and they're not jealous of you. and you're not the remember, the only ones love. remember, you've only been together for a short. but anyway, we'll carry on because you're with me. on with because you're with me. i'm gb news i'm nana akua. this is a gb news on online and on digital on tv online and on digital radio. after break, it's radio. after the break, it's time great british time for our great british debate hour. i'm do debate this hour. and i'm who do you sunak or storm or you trust? sunak or storm or perhaps somebody totally different? both our prime minister. should cenac minister. we should cenac and labour sir keir labour counterpart sir keir starmer. they outlined their plans to help the country back

on to unite claims that he'll focus on improving the economy tackling crisis, tackling the migrant crisis, fixing . starmer believes fixing the nhs. starmer believes it's all about transferring power to westminster from , power to westminster from, westminster to local communities. but what you think? who do you trust? send me your thoughts. views at thoughts. email gb views at gbnews.uk tweet me at gb gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news. there's also poll up right now asking you that question who do you trust? sunak starmer reform or none the above. cast your vote first. it's a .

break good afternoon. if you're just me, where have you been? it's just the beginning. the challenge just coming up 21 challenge just coming up to 21 minutes 4:00. i've nana minutes after 4:00. i've nana akua. we are gb news the people's channel. now, before the break, i was discussing prince harry, his new memoir, spare. let's have a look at what

you've saying. john says we you've been saying. john says we can grateful for netflix. can all be grateful for netflix. harry new revelations . harry and his new revelations. the there the gift that the books there is the gift that keeps on giving and is an inspiration. the younger generation not to behave generation on how not to behave exactly . listen, don't buy the exactly. listen, don't buy the book. i tell you now across says pawns be promoted to queen's pawns can be promoted to queen's and meghan wears the and since meghan wears the trousers fairly trousers this is fairly appropriate . yes, but prince appropriate. yes, but prince could never become kings joan. it says prince harry has even endangered the lives of veterans such saint ? yes. i don't know such as saint? yes. i don't know why he thought it was a good idea. he's got nobody idea. obviously he's got nobody decent around him. give him some good stay with me. good advice, but stay with me. we'll be talking about that throughout on. enrica throughout show later on. enrica yes, yes. the second week is just as be telling us just as will be telling us his view and also speaking to anthony 11. but first, it's time now our great debate this now for our great debate this houn now for our great debate this hour. i'm asking you, you hour. i'm asking you, do you trust sunak starmer maybe reform or none on wednesday? or basically none on wednesday? basically nick announced his top five priorities for the year. so five promises. we will halve inflation . grow the economy.

inflation. grow the economy. reduce debt. cut waiting lists. and stop the boats. those are the people's priorities. are your government's priorities . your government's priorities. and we will either have achieved them or not. let's not forget about the maths . so there you about the maths. so there you have it. his top at number one, top inflation . this is despite top inflation. this is despite inflation already slowing down globally. and the bank of england , it would have halved by england, it would have halved by the end of 2013. in any case, 2020. sorry, sorry. number two, to grow the economy. remember it was sunak who scrapped liz mini budget set make britain budget that was set make britain the highest scoring economy the g7 by 2025. and he replaced it with higher taxes , increased with higher taxes, increased spending. and number three to reduce debt. well, coming from a man who borrowed over reduce debt. well, coming from a man who borrowed ove r £400 man who borrowed over £400 billion when he was chancellor dunng billion when he was chancellor during pandemic. during the covid pandemic. number cut waiting number four, to cut waiting lists since 2010. the number patients on nhs waiting lists has from 2.5 million to 8. staggering 7.2 million. and finally, number five. to stop

the boats. the tories made countless promises to reduce migration and remember the promise to cut the cutting migration by the tens and thousands. net migration actually rose to record highs of more than half a million in the year to june 2022, with just under 46,000 illegal migrants crossing the channel year. sir keir starmer criticised sunak's pledges in a speech standing in front of what looks like a transformer. you saw it yesterday from the prime minister commentary without solution more promises is more platitudes, no ambition to take us forward. no sense of what the country needs . 13 years of country needs. 13 years of nothing but sticking plaster . nothing but sticking plaster. it's why every crisis hits britain harder than our competitors. the only country the g7, still polled and it was before the pandemic the worst decade for growth in two century. 7 million a waiting lists and rising . sir keir

lists and rising. sir keir starmer proposed , a partnership starmer proposed, a partnership model where both the public private sector would work together to fix the problems in the nhs . i think that's already the nhs. i think that's already happening anyway. also announced they take back control that would more power to local would add more power to local authorities, which is ironic considering starmer is an ardent who is now using the vote leave slogan so for the great british debate. so i'm asking , do you debate. so i'm asking, do you trust sunak starmer ? perhaps trust sunak starmer? perhaps somebody else reform or maybe none the above. i'm joined by the of reform uk, richard tice for former tory mp neil parsons, a former labour adviser and writer. scarlet maguire writes, i'm going to start you, neil, because you know well, i might as well have not to you before. who do you trust and rishi or care on either? well, i bet you'd expect me to come down on the side of rishi, but think his big challenge is delivery because of course we've been in power now for 12 years and therefore know getting down inflation , halving that, getting inflation, halving that, getting the debt down means getting the

waiting list sorted . and of waiting list sorted. and of course, don't forget, we've had this huge pandemic, which is also borrowed a lot of money. but we've also created the waiting and, course , waiting list. and, of course, the issue really for on the the big issue really for on the right of the tory party and some of the right wing voters is very much what are we going to do about immigration? and of his or the seekers coming across the asylum seekers coming across very difficult. more needs to be donein very difficult. more needs to be done in france. we need to be able to actually process a much quicker because . but one thing quicker because. but one thing is, we know that because we're watching it, it's also like coming. now i know that. i agree hundred% yeah. in scala you know keir starmer saying that he's talking about sort of decentralised decentralised talks moving things away from westminster . we've seen how westminster. we've seen how disastrous that's looked in the terms of devolution. does he actually think that's a vote winner sort of. i mean, i actually it's just about actually think it's just about votes. it's about the only that we're to sort out this we're going to sort out this country we about country because we talk about all the talk about levelling up the way where the money is not

is outside westminster, particularly in the north. but actually, it's the same in the southwest . and actually, you southwest. and actually, you cannot have everything being done from , westminster and done from, westminster and westminster saying goes on. i think it is really that we that we power and trust to the people. you know, in the northeast , in people. you know, in the northeast, in the people. you know, in the northeast , in the north, you see northeast, in the north, you see more bureaucracy, though, more little centres , power, more little centres, power, more bureaucracy. and instead of actually doing something. richard, i'm going ask you said what you make of all of this? what do you make of all of this? i mean, this is a bit of a mess. the parties, two parties seem a lot politically lot of people politically homeless what homeless reform. i mean, what would differently ? well, would they do differently? well, good . i noticed you good afternoon. i noticed you didn't play the clip of my speech when i said how the country's broken i put out country's broken and i put out the clear most specific solution because we all know that the country's not working. nothing works in the country. we're paying works in the country. we're paying the highest. works in the country. we're paying the highest . we've got paying the highest. we've got the highest wasteful government spending. we've got the highest energy prices , the longest energy prices, the longest waiting solutions .

waiting list, but no solutions. lots of words and waffle . lots of warm words and waffle. starmer and sooner i put forward a clear, big bold solution, which is you've got to make britain work , to make britain britain work, to make britain work, you've got to make work pay- work, you've got to make work pay. i believe that we've got to increase the starting to which people pay income from 12 and a half grand to 20 grand. that's 30 quid a week extra , which 30 quid a week extra, which really helps the lowest paid the least well—off because we've got 5 million people on out of work . that's one in eight of the population completely written off by the main two parties. we've got to get them back into work. we've got to stop importing cheap overseas labour. we set out how to pay for it. and as for the boats, i mean, with i mean, just laughable with i mean, it's just laughable this last year the then prime said, well, let's have a nationality and borders bill and that'll silly. so the solution that'll silly. so the solution that didn't work. so now sunak says, let's have more legislation . and got legislation. and we've got a very clear six point plan that will stop the boats. it mainly revolves leaving the uk revolves around leaving the uk to pick up and take. it's a copy

of the australian solution that worked so don't reinvent the wheel. do something you know works. now what do you think? i mean , saying, you know, you done mean, saying, you know, you done reinvent the wheel the tory party haven't really done much. i know you're a long serving as serving in the way you were before but what's your view on this. yeah. i mean, i do actually think that we've got to take the public as is now take the public as it is now what we're spending on the health service. there's still a real with the number real problem with the number of people get it to people being able to get it to be but can't do be seen. but what you can't do is the opposition parties is make the opposition parties do well, you do is suddenly decide, well, you know, a new policy but of know, we'll a new policy but of course you've all already the major all put major spending we've all put another 14 billion into the health service . all of those health service. all of those things you could things need. and yes, you could try but don't try and cut taxes. but don't forget, truss tried as forget, liz truss tried that as soon as the money markets saw that run pound, the bank of that they run pound, the bank of england to in and support england had to in and support it. so therefore you can only actually cut taxes when . we can actually cut taxes when. we can make in to run the make money in order to run the economy. think that is where economy. i think that is where i believe that rishi soon will get

it right. what we do have is at least a competent minister. there's actually people believe in and if you look at the polling that's going on at the moment, you actually that actually rishi sunak is more popular than keir starmer even though the party the conservative party is much lower. but you come back on that, richard. now you forget, sue. that's been the chance dunng sue. that's been the chance during this high rates of inflation he created he created the debt. he's the guy who lifted the taxes. he's the guy that hasn't direct created post—brexit in order to create some growth offsets out in my plans pre—christmas on health care and here with our planet how you pay for this stuff what they're choosing to do in this government they're not making the sensible choices they're not cutting waste. they're for example letting the bank of england unnecessarily pay 20 billion a year reserves on the money print it to rich city institutions . it doesn't need to institutions. it doesn't need to do. all of this stuff and political choices the government is deciding to make and. not me

and the waste in governments spending is grotesque and why it's all 5 million people on benefits. and i wouldn't i wouldn't necessarily argue that not waste in waste in government but what i would say to you is that furlough scheme, that with the furlough scheme, the 400 billion borrowed actually to us through actually to get us through covid, too many covid, i didn't see too many voices at actually voices at the time actually saying we shouldn't actually spend that money. fact, you have heard a lot of cases actually saying we should spend. so therefore, that money therefore, once that money spent, it's got to be spent, then it's got to be repaid . and i think you repaid. and i don't think you can put up the the can actually put up the at the door of rishi sunak's now that people didn't say spend more. i mean, think there was a lot of mean, i think there was a lot of political about last. political scholars about last. what is it? well, i mean. i think what we need is a fresh start and we need somebody i mean let's at the national health service, you know , rishi health service, you know, rishi is having a meeting to look at it instead of actually saying the real problem in national the real problem in the national health. are two main health. so there are two main problems. staff. there problems. one is staff. there isn't enough. barely paying isn't enough. we barely paying for others there other for the others there other options, people, solutions is retaining the staff getting

more? now what ? well, the first more? now what? well, the first thing, this is a complex. it's about pensions. it's about encouraging them to stay. it's about not saying that we're going to everybody to train as nurses. it's to train more doctors . it's actually to keep doctors. it's actually to keep them so know they look at the how would it look, you know, but also trolley thing. richard. richard and then the health care plan pre—christmas that sets how you get how pay. health and social care staff significantly more how you fund that and that will retain attract staff urgently because the nhs waiting list crisis is the greatest crisis this country got today. well, it's another three. did that. okay, 10 seconds to you then. on and on. the biggest issue also , social care. that's issue also, social care. that's what we've got to. right. so the 20% of people that are in hospital that need to actually go into into nursing , we got to go into into nursing, we got to sort that out and a lot of that would then help whole would then help the whole general service general health service altogether. the rest of altogether. and the rest of what. right. obviously had a

plan. i mean , if it did poorly plan. i mean, if it did poorly on in office and haven't been for a long time. well, listen, thank you so much to the leader of the reform uk richard thomas, former mp in paris, former former tory mp in paris, former labour of scarlet labour adviser, rise of scarlet maguire. thank for maguire. wow thank you for joining me. you're with i'm nana akua is good news on online akua this is good news on online and radio the way and on digital radio the way we'll our great british we'll continue our great british debate this hour. asking who debate this hour. i'm asking who do sunak starmer do you trust? sunak starmer deliver thoughts of my panel deliver the thoughts of my panel and he can do it. and columnist as he can do it. also political commentator sam dallas with me five. this dallas with me at five. this week's difficult conversations relationship natalia relationship guru natalia kovalenko will be here . give me kovalenko will be here. give me all your thoughts or whether you won't forget yourself. a new relationship year you stuck relationship this year you stuck are unhappy ? she'll give you are you unhappy? she'll give you loads of advice. but first, let's latest news let's get your latest news headunes. let's get your latest news headlines . it's 432. good headlines. it's 432. good afternoon . i'm karen armstrong. afternoon. i'm karen armstrong. the gb newsroom. the prime minister is holding emergency talks with health experts at downing in an effort to ease the pressure . the nhs. rishi sunak's

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so welcome back this is a gb news on tv online and on digital radio. don't forget you can also stream us live on youtube. i'm nana akua . now we return to our nana akua. now we return to our great british this hour. i'm asking who do you trust, sunak or starmer? i went the prime minister sunak. he announced five priorities to help the country to get it back on track . so five promises we will halve inflation , grow the economy, inflation, grow the economy, reduce debt. cut waiting lists. and the boats. those the people's priorities. they are your government's priorities and we will either have achieved them or not. some of them we will achieve with or without

them. but they have more talk on deaung them. but they have more talk on dealing with immigration , dealing with immigration, deaung dealing with immigration, dealing with immigration, dealing with the economic crisis , the key issues in the nhs so get starmer criticised his in the speech signing in front of what looks like a transformer he saw yesterday from the prime minister commentary without solution more promises , more solution more promises, more platitudes, no ambition to take us forward. no sense of what the country needs . 13 years of country needs. 13 years of nothing but sticking plaster . nothing but sticking plaster. it's why every crisis hits britain harder than our competitors . the only country competitors. the only country the g7 still polled. and it was before the pandemic the worst decade for growth in two centuries is 7 million of waiting lists . and top. yes sir waiting lists. and top. yes sir keir proposed a partnership model where the public and private sector work together to fix the problems in the nhs. he also announced a take back control bill that would have more power to local authorities. so the great british debate this

i'd asking who do you trust? sunak all star power. let's see what my panel make that. i'm joined broadcaster and joined by broadcaster and columnist also political columnist cundy, also political commentator sam dowler. so going to come to you first. what so either of them or none of above, because we've got reform and there's that option? well, first of all, your question that you know, who do you trust? i mean, if it was a personal thing, let's say one of us was in trouble, who would you would trouble, who would you who would you going to help you call? who was going to help you call? who was going to help you i would you out? i would say keir starmer or you want to starmer or or if you want to think. yeah look at the look at his previous look at previous work. and he is yeah. and look and you know what he did, you know what he did for, you know, in his role as a lawyer. and obviously he's and he's been above the law. let's not go into that because i think he's a lot those have been in the party. he's also been in the public arena now for a long time. thanks the players and he's never he's never anything never and he's never anything that he's never done anything that he's never done anything that would make think he that would make you think he wasn't is

wasn't trustworthy. where is rishi has done things that you're a bit bit slightly questionable those questionable i mean for those who example who love boris for example would would him for boris's would blame him for boris's demise who stabbed him in the front etc. so i mean you know he's got a bit of a clean sheet and a few other options on that. the other option we've on the other option we've got on there reform . reform. there online is reform. reform. exactly. we to reform and exactly. we have to reform and i have to say, neither rishi or keir starmer for me, i'm afraid . look, i don't know where to start with rishi. i mean, that he's so boring when you switch off was i was so upset as well about saying we have to do maths till your 18th. tell me , what till your 18th. tell me, what about the arts? what about create a country? we have ? does create a country? we have? does he want us all to be forensic on, you know , like an army of on, you know, like an army of data robots ? is that what he data robots? is that what he wants? well, look, he's his track record. what he did to this economy, thanks to him for everybody, including victoria beckham's business. you know , i beckham's business. you know, i mean, please, this is why we're in this terrible situation. we're so think it's we're in. so you think it's dominic, it's tom has who gets

who gets on everything. i'm responsible for absolutely nothing. can't even tell you . a nothing. can't even tell you. a woman is goes on about the strikes . will it be on the strikes. will it be on the picket lines? no because just picket lines? no because he just sits on the if it sells any more, it gets splinters. so, sam, we can't rely on anybody bonng sam, we can't rely on anybody boring as a want someone boring. oh, about of past? what oh, what about of the past? what about we've about reform uk. i mean we've had tice there what had richard tice there is what are online. would are the options online. would you be prepared to trust them . i you be prepared to trust them. i mean kind of only mean that's kind of the only real option. absolutely. no i would i would might . real option. absolutely. no i would i would might. i think there should be a general election tomorrow. i want see election tomorrow. i want to see i would to see keir. i would love to see keir. starmer stalwarts on leader keir starmer stalwarts on leader keir starmer at number 10 by the end of year with the likes of of the year with the likes of angela wagner and jess phillips in . then i would in the cabinet. then i would then would feel like then i would start to feel like our going in the our country was going in the right no right direction. but i have no substance, he calling for substance, he says, calling for change. was he change. change for what was he going do something going to actually do something differently? into differently? i'm really into where we are the moment. look where we are at the moment. look at we at moment, at where we are at the moment, with 12 tories. we are with 12 years of tories. we are in worst we could in the worst place we could possibly in, why not have possibly be in, so why not have a rolling rather a change? we rolling out rather reforms. okay, you're right.

well we better than better than anyone a lot position. anyone else in a lot position. if we'd with, say, if we'd gone along with, say, for starmer, for example, keir starmer, remember alongside the remember he voted alongside the things especially in the pandemic voted together pandemic, voted together alongside tory party, not that the needed them , but the tory party needed them, but they guess starmer they did. i guess starmer would have for longer. have us in lockdown for longer. i everything would've been harder, longer with c'est almost. exactly. we don't know that he said that he that he has. he said that he didn't want us to out with the still but also mistakes made on all but everywhere with all sides but everywhere with the with the pandemic. i mean furlough eat help out was furlough eat out to help out was then then was that then then was then was that was then that was blamed loads of that was then blamed loads of extra deaths. so i'm saying i rishi wasn't he parachuted into number 10. no one wanted to do that. i mean even truss the let's be , let's be honest and let's be, let's be honest and he's a snake he backstabbed bofis he's a snake he backstabbed boris but there we go. remember keir starmer partygate partygate partygate and then the rebels joining with all these children and the army and the police. and he did nothing wrong, whether the police, the police or that or not. and boris , some other or not. and boris, some other stuff going on. very hypocritical the things which it

wasn't fine and he said which wasn't fine and he said which was very trustworthy that he would he was fined once would that if he was fined once prosecuted that would step. prosecuted that he would step. yeah he wasn't you yeah because he wasn't but you wouldn't be but the other thing is that he did say there is that he did say that there were turned were only six people that turned out he said out there about he said that there was it was not there was not it was not organised. there was a memo and he said an angela rayner wasn't there. well was little, there. she well was the little, little which which is little lies which is which is still lie . so you make out that still lie. so you make out that that's not true because on it's still alive to be what each person see. what would you give it for. yes i would you totally. okay. well listen this show nothing visas. nothing without union visas. welcome great your welcome a great voice. your opportunity . be on the show and opportunity. be on the show and tell you think about the tell us what you think about the topics discussing go topics by discussing which we go . bristol. let's a chat . we go to bristol. let's a chat with gb views voice and regular leigh harris. leigh, with gb views voice and regular leigh harris . leigh, welcome. leigh harris. leigh, welcome. good to see you. rightly so you to you've got about a minute on this so i'm going to the floor is yours who do you trust . oh is yours who do you trust. oh it's a thoroughly depressing question nana . thing is, trust question nana. thing is, trust is earned and i don't really

trust either them. i mean trust her. she more than starmer. but to say that i'm disillusion with politics at the moment would be an i agree with patrick christie's yesterday actually when he said the dull men have taken over you know at least bofis taken over you know at least boris was entertaining watch both speeches yesterday and they were both flat and uninspiring. starmer is as usual, kind of robotic , uninspiring, no detail robotic, uninspiring, no detail untrustworthy. and he's full of contradictions. he very little to say, if anything about the strikes and the phones away. i didn't even mention the small boats at all, but you know, i take issue with i've got to take issue with sam minute ago saying that storm has a clean suit. no he is a two faced liar. you know, let's not forget this is the man that campaigned for jeremy corbyn be pm he voted remain said he would respect the and when he didn't get the result that he wanted he campaigned for another vote. he is the he's like a political

weathervane . he's the most weathervane. he's the most untrustworthy politician in politics right now . so what you politics right now. so what you just said is, okay, so 10 seconds, would you vote reform because the other is a disaster 7 because the other is a disaster ? i'm going to honest, i do have a soft spot for richard tice if you still watch. and thank you your 552222: your help with brexit. and i for your help with brexit. and i recently but not sure i'm to recently but i'm not sure i'm to vote reform yet because just believe asking to let labour in and i just do not want labour government will i listen leigh, thank you so much for your thoughts. always good to talk to you. harris, our you. that's leigh harris, our great right? great british voice right? you're nana akua. you're with me on nana akua. this is dvds on tv online, on digital after the break. digital radio. after the break. it's round up it's for our royal round up the body language andy body language expert andy carroll and royal biographer angela levin joining me to pick apart harry's leaked extracts from his memoirs bear. all that on the way next up. anyway .

47 minutes after 4:00. this is a jeb used the people's channel to get you can download the gb news app get you can download the gb news app for free and most all of the channels all of the programs on the channel nana akua . now the channel nana akua. now there's always something going on in the royal household and this week has been different. leaked extra text from prince harry's memoir, spare have revealed a number of sensational that he's put the royal family in a precarious light. now, harry wrote about the alleged physical altercation that he had with his brother william back in 2019, the duke of sussex also tore into his stepmother , the tore into his stepmother, the queen consort, camilla , queen consort, camilla, admitting that he begged his father to not marry her. and that, says princess is the first member of the royal family to return work. so every saturday, i love to give you a rundown. and who better to into this than body expert has a new body language expert has a new carausius he joins me now it's just thank you very much for

joining yes it's good to see you nana thanks for inviting right. so now that's a you two and well this week has been insane that book leak and all we are we are yet to see the full tour of and harry and all these interviews like interviews that he's going to give . and we already have to give. and we already have clips and trailers and with anderson cooper and then with tom bradby. and i so a couple of things on that . cooper these are things on that. cooper these are that i to share with you. okay well, let's take a look, because harry took the time he says about his private life doesn't mean the palace priest again say, you've tried to do this privately . and every single time privately. and every single time i've to it privately, i've tried to do it privately, there been briefings and there have been briefings and leaking and planting stories leaking and planting of stories against my wife . so what against me and my wife. so what is this clip that i with you and i want to want to make it very clear that we have this suggestions of harry rubbing his nose that are a bit odd because

thatis nose that are a bit odd because that is not something that he does all the time that is not part of his body language basically is usual body language. so maybe he is a bit nervous. but we also seen that he has a bit of a rant. i will he has a bit of a rant. i will he has a bit of a rant. i will he has been tired or , maybe has he has been tired or, maybe has here he is . he has been tired or, maybe has here he is. he's not he has been tired or, maybe has here he is . he's not feeling here he is. he's not feeling well or maybe he's anxious, but something to realise at the moment that he did that was when he was about the privacy part. you know this inconsistencies their declarations that they have said that they did not leave their royal duties due to privacy but at the same time this interviews he claims that it was about privacy that he wanted privacy but buckingham palace did not or would not allow that according to him i'm because it doesn't i mean what i listen to it doesn't really make much sense at all. i mean, then he talks about the family motto, never complain, never explain,

which it's just it which you know, it's just it just seems a bit. yes, yes. he also he also mentioned that and according to him to , dad, according to him to, dad, buckingham palace not enforce that. that is only on paper, they only say that just for the pubuc. they only say that just for the public . but they only say that just for the public. but behind closed doors , he claims that they are the ones who are sending this fake news and claims and headlines pieces to the mainstream and specifically to throw him and under the bus. so they pretty a pretty clear accusations on very well very huge accusations the same time. well let's take look at this next clip that yes. you know the family is never complain, never explain , but complain, never explain, but it's just a motto and it doesn't really hold a lot of complaining and a lot of explaining and private being done in through leaks , through . yeah. may is leaks, through. yeah. may is happening here especially especially he sees the family leave. he doesn't say my family

is like detached in himself from the concept of the royal family which which is which is interesting this is this is a real emotion that he is feeling about about this and notice that when his his lost it just a bit . anderson cooper begins to fill in the gap for him because there's a lot of complaining and i know a lot of explaining harry doesn't say that is anderson cooperi doesn't say that is anderson cooper i find it odd because it looks like anderson cooper is it in the script. yeah there's some kind of a script and if you see that harry is going off the rails that you have to like fill in the blanks him that's as only may opinion, but that's how it looks. and we also see, harry, that has this this tense tension in his joe i have my unofficial here has this when he's talking about events what is going on

with this claims about the family so for all the people that are saying that this is just meghan him i disagree there is a lot of agency and there's a lot of real emotions in harry covert anger and specifically towards royal family. so this worth noticing . yeah because he worth noticing. yeah because he sort of does thing with his daughters and he's tensing up and it does seem and he doesn't comfortable there i mean, ijust don't think that he could be in i mean , you know, i don't know i mean, you know, i don't know the question, but the in his right mind to be saying such things, especially the information that apparently he gives away regard the to gives away with regard the to afghanistan mean that seems like madness that you share that yes yes it is baffling and there rumours that he was he was not he wanted to stop the book from being published and now that we have those excerpts we can understand that he was

interested in it, not the book, but well, it's already out. it's too late. too late. well, let's bnng too late. too late. well, let's bring angela levin, royal biographer levin, as a stay right there . angela levin . oh, right there. angela levin. oh, what do you make of this? this awfulness, the book? i mean, what is going on? well spent 15 months with harry in 2017 and 18. and it's like him. he's as if he's gone a sort of cave and closed his eyes about behaviour. it's self—destructive. i think he's very ill. i think attention needs to be given to quite quickly, really . i don't know quickly, really. i don't know who he's been help, who has been helping him , but they obviously helping him, but they obviously aren't doing a good job. but he's, he's betray and his family has betrayed his country has betrayed them everything the army and everything that he can and he hasn't got any idea of what perception is you he's talking like a boy in in the

playground about, his penis, for example , needs to know how who example, needs to know how who needs to know that he how he lost his virginity . i mean, lost his virginity. i mean, these are things you don't talk about. if you've got any common sense . he seems to have lost it. sense. he seems to have lost it. i don't know whether it's the drugs that have really brought him to this level or him down to this level or whether meghan has made so many demands that he's actually given up and believes that everybody's jealous of her because she's so amazing i mean, the queen said didn't she before she died that perhaps he loves her too much and i think that he's in a terrible fight not to manage to keep happy and to give her what she wants, which seems to be more than the world. and i think it's very difficult for him. i think he's in real, real trouble to do this, whether you think it's for the money, it might well be, but the money's not to give him or her satisfaction.

the more they , the more they the more they, the more they want. and is about him. he's himself somewhere . and it's himself somewhere. and it's a real tragic situation . i want to real tragic situation. i want to bnng real tragic situation. i want to bring hesse's back in that i mean , looking at the way harry mean, looking at the way harry is behaving, would you say that harry is not being himself in how he's how he's. is body language? is it does it feel he's being controlled by somebody else? or do you think that harry is totally in charge, his own sort of destiny in, the way behaving? because what way he's behaving? because what i mean, your view? i mean, what's your view? because lot are saying, because a lot people are saying, look, over look, this woman's taken over him are that he's him. others are saying that he's making decisions making up these decisions his own. what what own. what what's what what do you when you look at him? you think when you look at him? well seen harry's body language from quite time. and from quite some time. and i started all those various like from 20 years ago and i seen this change in body language. he he to stoop to be so comfortable so nice with william and catherine i always make it the

joke that bring 2016 everything was roses but right now we don't see any of that and. we see more and more anger and no longer covert anger but express anger which is which is warring . one. which is which is warring. one. the big question is , did this the big question is, did this anger this feelings we're already back then in i don't know 2000 15 am. before that or did they appear in in this moment or from this five years to this moment. that that's a good question because it seems like he wants kind of retribution some of back look at the family. but from time how long has this been happening inside you think do you think that his so about prince william because he's managing his life managing a huge burden of work

and being the heir to the throne that he's got it right is managing his family life is managing his family life is managing to be a and a husband and but harry, this can't it and so he resents is taking it out on him the things that he feels he can't . yeah the problem is he can't. yeah the problem is when you have you don't have the emotional tools to understand your value. that's why we saw this . this is your value. that's why we saw this. this is statements like harry saying , well, this. this is statements like harry saying, well, i'm going to lose all value once george is 18. that is nonsense . that that 18. that is nonsense. that that has nothing to do with you . i has nothing to do with you. i always thought that harry had , always thought that harry had, the privilege of being born into the privilege of being born into the royal family and having william's responsibility that is there , that is a great and there, that is a great and that's what he loves. he loves that's what he loves. he loves that i don't know why does he feel like this. why does he feel that having this huge even leaving his royal duties , having leaving his royal duties, having this this huge platform , he

this this huge platform, he could do so many great things and he just has been focusing on bashing his family over. and over again, he can't manage himself. you say he no longer can manage himself and therefore he can no longer do these great things . i he can no longer do these great things. i mean, on the on the art. well, that podcast on the on the screen, they say , you on the screen, they say, you know, it's very important to be compassionate to those know and those you don't know. it's one of the sort of favourite lines. but he can't do that. i mean, he's not being compassionate to anybody now, even to himself. i mean, he's in a really state. i think . well, listen, we'll we'll think. well, listen, we'll we'll carry on and see what happens with harry associated and because for us thank you so much for joining me the body language forjoining me the body language expert really good to talk to you.thank expert really good to talk to you. thank you what you. thank you for what is joining live spain. and joining us live from spain. and also levin, royal also angela levin, royal biographer. you as biographer. lovely talk. you as well. oh, well , stay with us. so well. oh, well, stay with us. so much more on the way. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. there's

more come just after. five well, i was just coming up to 5:00. this is a dvd on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking you on some of the big topics, hitting the headlines right now on the way i'll speaking to way i'll be speaking to a relationship expert who'll be answering your burning about answering all your burning about how love . then for the how to find love. then for the great british debate this hour, i'll talking masks. should we them during the winter season to ensure the nhs isn't overstretched . would you object overstretched. would you object to wearing . all that after your to wearing. all that after your latest news . hello there. it's latest news. hello there. it's 5:00. good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. plenty more to come , newsroom. plenty more to come, of course. but let's start with a. emergency talks at number 10.

the prime minister is hosting crisis talks with health experts. at number 10 in an attempt to ease the pressure on the nhs . rishi sunak is hosting the nhs. rishi sunak is hosting nhs recovery forum with discussions focusing social care and delayed discharge along with emergency and urgent care, tackling, waiting was one of the five pledges made in the pm's first major speech of the year. but health leaders say the meeting will be unable to fix a crisis that has been years in the making . but shadow public the making. but shadow public health minister gwynne hopes today's talks will have a positive outcome . everybody who positive outcome. everybody who an interest in the national health really should be running the table . trying to work out the table. trying to work out not only the short term measures that needed to get us through the rest of this winter, but also how we then put health and social care on a sustainable footing the kind of reforms that are needed , the kind of are needed, the kind of investment that's needed for the long term, not just sticking

plasters . the rmt says rail plasters. the rmt says rail companies at the heart of the long running dispute over have made hundreds of, millions of poundsin made hundreds of, millions of pounds in profit. made hundreds of, millions of pounds in profit . the made hundreds of, millions of pounds in profit. the union claims huge amounts of money were generated when the government private train operators new contracts during the pandemic. operators new contracts during the pandemic . they say operators new contracts during the pandemic. they say companies made up the pandemic. they say companies made u p £310 million in taxpayer made up £310 million in taxpayer funded profits between march 2020 and september 2020 to. it comes the rmt and 14 train operators continue their 48 hour walkout. overpay jobs and conditions . police in united conditions. police in united states have arrested a six year old boy after he shot and seriously injured a teacher at a primary school in the state of virginia. officers say woman's injuries were initially to be life threatening. but how can ted condition has improved in hospital. the chief police officer has said the shooting was not and the two had what they have described as an altercation. it's unclear how

the child got hold of the handgun and have been urged to support paid leave for miscarriage. the proposal by an s&p member would grant three days of static paid leave to parents who experience a miscarriage before 24 weeks of pregnancy. angela crawley says it would give the time needed to grieve currently pay bereavement leave is only given following stillbirth after 24 weeks . stillbirth after 24 weeks. prince harry claims he was not real best man at the wedding of his brother at the prince of wales. in more leaked excerpts from his memoir, the duke of sussex reportedly says the role was fulfilled . his brother's two was fulfilled. his brother's two closest friends. he also suggests king charles feared meghan would dominate the monarchy and the limelight from charles and referring back his military days. harry claims killed 25 taliban fighters , a killed 25 taliban fighters, a claim which has been criticised by both the british army and the taliban themselves challenges in

ukraine despite russia's proposed 36 hour ceasefire, missile strikes have been heard in the eastern city of as one resident was describing the situation . we'll spend the whole situation. we'll spend the whole town used to be so beautiful . town used to be so beautiful. there were roses everywhere flowers. it was clean everything was kept in order order. russia declared its forces would observe a unilateral ceasefire for orthodox christmas, which was immediately dismissed by kyiv as propaganda and a cynical trap. the kremlin claims its troops have only fired in retaliation to attacks from ukrainian forces. retaliation to attacks from ukrainian forces . flood warnings ukrainian forces. flood warnings are in place across england and wales as heavy downpours are to hit the uk overnight. there are 27 flood warnings in place for england with eight in place for wales . the scottish environment wales. the scottish environment protection agency has also issued six flood alerts for

scotland . this is gb news. we'll scotland. this is gb news. we'll bnng scotland. this is gb news. we'll bring more as it happens , but bring more as it happens, but now it is back to nana akua . now it is back to nana akua. hello. good afternoon and. welcome aboard. this is gb views on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . over the radio. i'm nana akua. over the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics that are hitting the headunes topics that are hitting the headlines right now . this show headlines right now. this show is opinion it's mine. is all about opinion it's mine. it's nice. and of course, it's we'll be debating, discussing at times. we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcast economist lizzie cundy. well political commentator sam dowler. still to come , it's time dowler. still to come, it's time for my difficult conversation and. today, i'll be talking about relationships with my relationship guru , natalia. kobe relationship guru, natalia. kobe king. i taught of privacy so many times. i got it right. and

it's the only use this year single like leonardo dicaprio. he split yet another 20 something year old. i mean, i could lie about my own might go, oh he's stuck in a loveless relationship. need to find a way out or are you lucky? unlucky in love maybe you eternally single . what about these apps? aren't they working for you? sick of they working for you? sick of the swiping for don't they in italy is here to answer questions to get you in a good relationship for the new year then for the great british debate. sir, i'm asking, would you object a face mask ? you object wearing a face mask? now medics have advised to face feel. i'm well at . home medics feel. i'm well at. home medics have advised, as i say , stay at have advised, as i say, stay at home or wear a face covering . home or wear a face covering. they need to go out with the predicted 3 million people testing positive for the virus over the christmas critics. a slammed the move, citing that in effectiveness. but others say it's important prevent this from becoming overstretched . would becoming overstretched. would you object to wearing a face mask even with these at gbnews.uk or tweet me at .

gbnews.uk or tweet me at. gb news? now it's time, though, for this week's difficult conversation. so how any of us are starting this ? are you are starting this? are you starting it single? well, if you are, you'll be good company , are, you'll be good company, because 2020 was a year of big splits from harry and olivia way to, gisele bundchen and, tom brady, kim kardashian , pete brady, kim kardashian, pete davidson. now let's not forget the one and only of the captain movement is now single again . movement is now single again. after splitting from yet another 20 something. i think just before she turned 30. there's plenty of other celebs in the look too. i think look out too. i think it's actually time turn actually every time they turn 25. what is the secret to 25. but what is the secret to finding right partner and finding the right partner and a successful long term family psychologist author natalia psychologist and author natalia covid keener will be taking your relationship questions and find out how you can find love in 2023. she's dedicated life , 2023. she's dedicated life, people's relationships, and i

think thousands of people all over the world. i'm to say. she joins me now the studio. natalia, thank very much for joining me again. green and pink thing going on. everyone's green and pink. i love pink and of green friday. so listen. okay, so let's start at the beginning. a lot of people at the moment probably been having a nice spend with somebody in the house. they're married with house. they're married to a with they to themselves. god, i need to get out of here. but instead of getting out of there, they could potentially improve things. is there a way you things. is there a way or you wouldn't know? it's done . i wouldn't you know? it's done. i think lot of people now think think a lot of people now think you the best. you need you deserve the best. you need to stop him, you know, have better lists maybe have better lists and maybe have better lists and maybe have better is they have one session with one lady and just say i want separate say why? because i think better. but how think deserve better. but how you know provera i see instagram i see social media. i think i must have this else and this problem because now people old time read some psychological bubbles. they don't to work with yourself but you believe everywhere you have a principle

. a white mark said this which opened the door and say a welcome but this not like this guys from these people divorce and don't want to work for a relationship cause a divorce and it's more easier way but if you divorce you find even worse life partner and gain. and then again you to. what problem you need to. what is my problem if i cannot make to be a team player, i could make my relationship or marriage to work because are you married? i always ask . yes, a lot people always ask. yes, a lot people giving out advice and don't see. how long have you been married for. but i married eight years with my greek and for me it's huge job know i have to work one. it's my business and welcome from my book navigate to success women how women can make success it's for real. i'll give you because a lot of women they make a business and one is business and after business it's work it's family from 10 to 6. i have work my from six until 12. i work my husband and my son and i work my husband and my son and i am like surprised they give i

sing program i about which conversation to speak with him how to make some give to that how to make some give to that how we can discovery other better if you don't invest in your relationship and you just expect we are married we already know and also i help my clients how be married how to receive proposal today one lady instagram ask natalia i'm three years in the relationship without marriage what do i say you to have to come to him and to give one month the best? what you can to be very beautiful, be very nice, be very sexual said, use him, play with show him all with you show and after say my deanl with you show and after say my dear, i love you so much but if you don't marry me the next months, i understand that you don't want me and i really , don't want me and i really, really and you must be saying so did you she's saying give them an ultimatum in a way so you be the best. she be. there's a lot of ladies out there with their partners if they've been hanging out for years, they go, out with for years, they go, i don't really want to be married.

she you really to she needs you really need to understand lost understand that what you lost because don't you say, because if you don't you say, oh, working for the oh, it's working for the bootylicious no, if you bootylicious year. no, if you don't if you even have don't married if you even have three you say you i am three children. you say you i am a but you have children a single, but you have children into a woman . if you are not into a woman. if you are not married . me that doesn't mean married. me that doesn't mean that if are live together or you have children you are married you must be married and you need to use one very good tool you have your mouth use it go since is not only from we can go to put lipstick you can open your mouth and you can see very directly want to be married on you if sorry i have other candidates so what about you then say married? is that how you did it with you? he just. he saw you and thought, i can't let her go . i went to visit my her go. i went to visit my husband and. he we intimacy and after he same do want to marry me and i say , my friend, why is me and i say, my friend, why is my maldives surveys, my diamond surveys , my gifts not? of course surveys, my gifts not? of course you need to do a lot job to be married on me and. it's a lot of

efforts you when we take our fairytales because one princess she stay in she doesn't say oh go down i already keel a dragon. itook go down i already keel a dragon. i took horses and i say, prince, i took horses and i say, prince, i am here. no you say, i want efforts , but you say that efforts, but you say that actually what you want your partner, what you expect . partner, what you expect. because what do most of women you have your fairytale you expect something you'll never say it enough say he's not for me but how you told him what you want how he must to know . i feel want how he must to know. i feel shame to say about this if you feel shame then not be in relationship. relationship you give something and you something and if your partner doesn't know, if you not have this synergy how you can be together about people who because i see in this internet age people are swiping right or left or whatever . and how do you sort of whatever. and how do you sort of that people navigate this? i do. you know, if someone's serious about you and how do you then try relationships? try and formulate relationships? because that's people aren't

going normal that they going to the normal that they used go. it's a of the online used to go. it's a of the online not very good questions you for this actions use always you this from actions use always you looking from if men not make actions for you she doesn't love you my must to feel hero only when you give him space to be here for you every man to be here for you every man to be here every man it's his. but if you say already i did it alone all you do single forever if you say you feel guilty to ask your good , you will stay single good, you will stay single forever give man space so please me with this i don't understand without you i can never happen you know i looking for you all my lives i haven't to 1 million views from this video when told ask me and what you want all my look what i all my life i look in only for you without you i cannot live you're for all me but you need to feel it one to respect me if you find him it respect me if you find him it respect you i've looked at you all my life i cannot do anything without you is that good some

people? they're convinced by it . our mine wants to listen . he . our mine wants to listen. he must. the feeling it's if you don't meet him, if you say strong, independent, fool me, stay alone. that's that's true. i mean, i do say that a lot quite like it. what about for something women? so like me, i really enjoy being on my own. but then i might then to think women saying that and actually they want someone don't i don't that people like to be alone or likes to be single but people has yesterday i have on clients and she told natalia i don't want to have a i am successful i'm a doctor i have my career. i'm a doctor i have my career. i'm i see you're a liar. i'm a doctor i have my career. i'm i see you're a liar . you're i'm i see you're a liar. you're 43. you are very you drink every day. they and because you come back and you're single and you live is your cat your liar. back and you're single and you live is your cat your liar . you live is your cat your liar. you want like a crazy but you are very hard with your truth relationship and you say how you know you must me maybe all of you, all of you . you want to you, all of you. you want to have a relationship, but you pain and this pain so huge and you put wine smoking and this

and this become to be bigger and bigger and bigger and it's become to like a bridge between you and next partner. and of course , you cannot. and first course, you cannot. and first you need to forgive and you hate even the wrong man. maybe father, brother, ex—partner , it father, brother, ex—partner, it stay here. and every man who came, she will came there . and came, she will came there. and unfortunately you cannot allow you need to clean your pain and to be vulnerable . my clients, to be vulnerable. my clients, for example, is to have session. she is 50 years old, wants to find them and. they say, go ahead, go in the street and make picture with ten men. if you will make dating meetings will make ten dating meetings dunng will make ten dating meetings during commands. i don't do second session with you. i work result. do you want to be married? i can marry after six months but you are obliged to make homework and. people who make my homework and. people who follow and do homework they it is that i'm very famous. follow and do homework they it is that i'm very famous . just is that i'm very famous. just i get results now. wow but then they. okay well, maybe i'll be project will go . oh what about project will go. oh what about them for men the watching thing thinking there but it's all

about women finding love what about women finding love what about men ? unfortunately men about for men? unfortunately men sometimes little bit stupid because . women always send so because. women always send so many signs to men. i saw one couple in one restaurant. the women sit with men all the time. she did this. she opened her neck. she did this. she opened her neck . she third herself. she neck. she third herself. she play neck. she third herself. she play with this. she played with glasses . she does so many play with this. she played with glasses. she does so many signs . and men speak about politics and football . i wanted to give and football. i wanted to give him my business card and to say guys come to me and lady already ready she just want to take her but you don't know to tell your compliments how to touch your when lady close to you never see the opposite of lady always if you want to seduce somebody guys sit little bit from the give your eyes to be free that should a little bit like actor tell me what you want to drink is i have sex is this one part on our back when if you type is there women start feel trust to you and his

specific go away with this sort of finger you tied there and say they want to go to this table like a little bit pusher. i'm conscious mind work he touch me it's safety i can trust as many small because you can do and what you would like to drink be gentle women they could share their access be gentleman care called a women be slowly because if women takes all the loan, give him time , need time. i need give him time, need time. i need to be smart to understand the signals and to flirt with lady and see if something fall down where he here kneels . journalist where he here kneels. journalist exactly. if soon means that she likes you here body language, you should that sure if she starts to breeze and if you want woman to kiss you see one eyes osiris here lips, one eyes, other you only see you do that and person wants to kiss you . i and person wants to kiss you. i don't know why i like it so much i want to kiss you. and also good advice. put it up emotion

doubt use for a decent a decent means and you say all i so like banana banana it's so nice and this big something quite a normal what it's banana cucumber but very specific words and you make it more slow so you, you've got a nice accent banana cucumber. does it come . so the cucumber. does it come. so the thought is that people want to find out more about you. where can they you online. what do they look . could be like in the they look. could be like in the .com i website have instagram .com i website we have instagram and tiktok where you can ask questions to make it totally free for all you and very welcome to help you to find your second partner. okay and we could that for you that's kobe l k i they got it. yeah go build in the dotcom. thank you very much. thank you and i shall use these tips. i'll be your project , see what happens. thank you so much. is natalia of the inca baker ? this is gb news. if you baker? this is gb news. if you just told me, nana akua how just told me, i'm nana akua how to relationship to make your relationship perfect for 2023. stay with you because there's loads more to

come on the way the great british to this. i'm british to make this. i'm asking, would object to asking, would you object to wearing mask? have wearing a face mask? medics have advised unwell wear advised who feel unwell to wear advised who feel unwell to wear a covering if they a face mask covering if they need go out the predicted need to go out the predicted 3 million testing positive million people testing positive for virus over christmas. so for the virus over christmas. so would object to wearing one. first, though, a quick.

break good afternoon is fast approaching 22 minutes after 5:00. this is a good news on tv online, a.j. radio. i'm not aware right. it's time for our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, would great british debate this hour. and i'm asking , would you object and i'm asking, would you object to wearing face mask? now, the u.k. health secretary agency is given the following advice due to the high numbers of flu and covid cases adults should try stay home when unwell and if they do have to go out , wear

they do have to go out, wear a face covering when unwell, don't visit healthcare settings or visit healthcare settings or visit in vulnerable people unless urgent . that's a report. unless urgent. that's a report. secretary of transport secretary mark harper also echoed similar sentiment. and it comes amid rise in the number of covid cases with a predicted 3 million people having tested positive for the virus over the festive period. now, at this point, you have more chance of catching covid than do a train . but covid than do a train. but critics are up in arms over the advice with many saying masks in of lockdown a time are keen to forget what believe it is a small gesture that will prevent the nhs from becoming overstretched this winter. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking would you object to wearing a face mask. joining me now the is joining me now the studio is professor a professor medical microbiology at university east anglia great barrington anglia and great barrington declaration code signatory . dr. declaration code signatory. dr. david livermore there's so there about you, dr. so first of all, need to talk me about this then

face masks, face coverings . face masks, face coverings. there's lots of research that actually that they do work in some settings very little . i some settings very little. i mean the accepted wisdom before the pandemic so back to 2019 was for multiple in influenza was that they no difference they've been to trials done during the done study which showed no benefit and one in bangladesh which appeared to show a slight benefit from wearing masks in terms of which is covered fact but was very strongly criticised statistically actually the norm the absolute number of people who got infected in the two arms was difference trivial so mean minimal benefit. you get people who say that 95 masks are better. however in bavaria where they were mandated fared no better than the rest of . better than the rest of. germany. and you can look at jurisdiction afterjurisdiction wear face masks were mandated and the incidence of covid shot upwards. so what could could it

could it be more to do with the fact that the way people are using the masks, not the fact that they're ineffective, because obviously if go to because obviously if you go to a health care setting and somebody is like is operating something like that, a now that, they will wear a mask now you you wouldn't you wear the mask you wouldn't want operating you want somebody operating you without you're without masks. so if you're saying not working, saying they're not working, then why don't wear them and why want to don't wear them and the in is really quite the use in is really quite different it's to protect the doctor against spatter and it's to protect against large drops of saliva or large drops droplets falling onto the patient was what have as you breathe outwards if you've got a viral respiratory infection covid of influenza is you've got much much finer particles coming out loaded with virus which will pass straight through an ordinary surgical mask. i mean, the poor size them is, is a 200 my funds the size of a covid virus is 100th of that. it's like marbles at, a chain link

fence . this will go on. okay, fence. this will go on. okay, well, there was a study one of the most comprehensive studies of mask and that was published in december and it in december 21. and it demonstrated wearing masks. does what demonstrated wearing masks. does what covid demonstrated wearing masks. does what covid transmission. so what is covid transmission. so this researchers from this one is researchers from this one is researchers from this the american universities and health. i recruited 340,000 adults in 600 villages in bangladesh . now, this is the one bangladesh. now, this is the one that you said the one i just mentioned. but it said the trial resulted in a 30% increase in mask wearing and demonstrated a 9% reduction in makeup . that's 9% reduction in makeup. that's 9. and that's something. well one, it didn't reduce 9% because if you go back to the worn numbers, the 300,000 people you had must and villages and in the must villages, if i remember those 1000 and data infections recorded in the unmasked itself , 106 or so. it's recorded in the unmasked itself ,106 or so. it's a tiny recorded in the unmasked itself , 106 or so. it's a tiny trivial ,106 or so. it's a tiny trivial and you go to a paper by a chicana it kami cali something like that it's in trials you still find the paper really the

statistics apart on that paper. it is not well—designed trial. what does it say right that i because i'm going to bring dr. barrett he's a senior lecturer the university of exeter thank so much forjoining me. now david said the masks aren't particularly effective what's what's your view this . well look what's your view this. well look there's other evidence that also indicates its usefulness what i wanted say is that nothing . 100% wanted say is that nothing. 100% effective not even the vaccine what we hope to do we take a multi—layered approach. one is the prevention , which is avoid the prevention, which is avoid the prevention, which is avoid the three c's, the crowded places, the close environment , places, the close environment, the close places with for ventilation and sitting to other people, especially when you may have a infection disease. and then top of that in an inverse moment where you may be spreading your droplets and your

droplets, if they are captured in a properly fitting, well—made mask , you are reducing the mask, you are reducing the number of droplets. the key word is reducing the of droplets. and when you reduce the number of droplets , you reduce the chances droplets, you reduce the chances of , them being airborne and of, them being airborne and going into somebody else's airway . this is empirical going into somebody else's airway. this is empirical stuff and practical, common sense , and practical, common sense, which says, whilst i can not prevent it, i can reduce it. and reduction is a good thing, especially when you've so many other viral infections going on. simple previously as well as salt are about. what would you say about david's point that the particles that come through with k that is tiny so the mask won't really stop anyway, even if you have got this layering that you're speaking of. okay i'm very happy to this and i do advocate that. number one, you wear a good, good quality, good,

good quality mask , a bit like good quality mask, a bit like the n95 it's yet much better . the n95 it's yet much better. and secondly , these are triple and secondly, these are triple eyes. so you're not going to stop all the droplets but to state to me that's none of the droplets are captured by the mask is not also being very so none the masks will stop everything but my point it reduces number of escaping droplets and that is all we've got with what to play with your reduce the number of droplets that are going to be released . that are going to be released. your voice from your nose being airborne and, then finding somebody else's airways . airborne and, then finding somebody else's airways. i would say that if you respond effectively , see, it's not effectively, see, it's not simple to be automatically say all you are doing is capturing as much as you can and the better. the mask that wear, the better. the mask that wear, the better the way you wear your mask you reduce number of

droplets that are releasing it more that unsure, i'm sure you reduce the number of large droplets, but they're not the point the virus is ever on tiny particles of moisture , water particles of moisture, water coming out . those those those go coming out. those those those go straight through the mask , you straight through the mask, you say not 95 masks are better and in laboratory studies with talus dummies. indeed they are but look at swiss policy research is website which is a pretty website which is a pretty website and they've got the data for both varia and 95 were monday rated versus the rest of germany where people were most using surgical masks and no difference in the incidence of across the regions . don't go to across the regions. don't go to china laboratories bond birth so look we not said that a mask on masks is the only solution what

we are saying it's one part of a longer all momentum in the in the reduction in the reduction of spread of infections we will people will keep on quoting study after study and i say to you i would look at the papers in nature they are emphatic enough to say that they have a role in reducing not prevent , role in reducing not prevent, but reducing the spread of infection . now nz infectious infection. now nz infectious disease doctor i always say , disease doctor i always say, look, we can do multiple layers of prevention and the multiple layers are those three cs i mentioned, plus vaccines plus avoidance , plus wearing a mask, avoidance, plus wearing a mask, but wearing it properly , plus but wearing it properly, plus wearing a high mask. i do appreciate that in the uk and places like that people are resistant and reluctant to wear and there we need to have a conversation about will it work? what would you do in certain places should you compulsorily

wear it or should you just wear it? wear that are prompt? those are conversations we should have and i know there's a lot of reluctance wearing they tell you very busy season because what about the learning is that part of talking learning fact is not just saying the their own this is good argue for that learning approach for preventing hospital acquired infection but it's quite in the community because we live in an equilibrium with all sorts of respiratory you get infected a lot of times childhood you build up some and afterwards you go life, you get afterwards you go life, you get a mild infection , asymptomatic , a mild infection, asymptomatic, you make an immune response, immune to it goes up and down. you to prevent that in the community all that's going to happenis community all that's going to happen is that you do pick up an infection it's going to be worse. so instead of getting a little bit of infection that goes away, you get occasional pick of a worse infection because you immune is great. it's better to get back to that immune equilibrium with respiratory syncytial virus with

influenza and establish de novo an equilibrium with sars—cov—2 and then we can go back to living as we always previously defined about that. you've got about 20 seconds. your final thoughts this. well prevention is always good my advice would be do all you can not to get infected be immunised look after yourselves but the vaccines work and don't get repeatedly infected if you wish to use the multiple of looking out for yourself and your family , do so yourself and your family, do so well. listen, thank you very much joining us, sir bharat panchal. much joining us, sir bharat panchal . now much joining us, sir bharat panchal. now he's a senior clinical lecturer at the university of exeter and also david livermore. thank very much. you're with me. i'm nana akua this is news on tv online and on digital radio on the way. we'll continue that great british debate this out. i'm asking, would you object to wearing a face mask? you'll hear the thoughts of my of broadcaster columnist, broadcaster and columnist, the second political second day, also political commentator, some dowler. but first, your latest first, let's get your latest news headlines . it's 532. i'm

news headlines. it's 532. i'm aaron in the gb newsroom the foreign secretary has condemned iran's execution of two protesters. james cleverly called the hangings abhorrent and has urged the country to immediately the violence against its own people . iran executed , its own people. iran executed, the two men for allegedly killing a member its security forces during nationwide demonstrations following death of the 22 year old kurdish iranian woman masa amini last september we bring you up to date with what's been happening in the nhs as well the government promised to provide over government promised to provide ove r £14 billion in funding for over £14 billion in funding for the nhs over the next two years to , improve urgent care and to, improve urgent care and tackle the backlog they say is the highest spend a on and care in the government's history . it in the government's history. it is after the prime minister hosted talks with health experts . nu hosted talks with health experts. nu effort to ease the pressure on the nhs. well executive of the

day, lewis group j. patel says the talks were constructive . the the talks were constructive. the session with a small group of us have of insights into what the problems really are out there. balance between community pharmacy and general practise and some great description . what and some great description. what the core issues are out there on the core issues are out there on the ground. the pm was very receptive to what we discussed and. we explained the issues and the we swiftly moved on to looking at options that we could put into place to be able to rapidly see if we can alleviate of those challenges . the rmt of those challenges. the rmt says rail companies at the heart of the long running dispute over pay, of the long running dispute over pay, have made hundreds of millions of pounds in profit. the union claims huge amounts of money were generated when the government private train government awarded private train operators contracts during operators new contracts during the pandemic. they say the companies made up to £310 million in taxpayer funded profits between march 2020 and september 2022. it comes as the rmt and 14 train operators

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i'm just going to up to 38 minutes after 5:00. this is gb views on tv online and digital radio. i'm nana akua for the next hour. me and my panel taking some of the big topics, hitting headlines right now. the is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs and it's yours. we'll be discussing at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . right now it's be cancelled. right now it's tower right now. so now this show is nothing without you and your views right now. let's discuss the idea of wearing face. joining me is my wonderful panel has some data . also, panel has some data. also, lizzie cundy . now we're lizzie cundy. now we're discussing face masks because health agency security is vital , stay at home when unwell and if you don't go out, you have to wear a face covering when unwell. don't visit healthcare

settings or visit vulnerable people unless urgent. now, this comes rise in the comes amid the rise in the number covid the number of covid cases. the evidence predicting around 3 million struck down with million was struck down with covid the christmas period. critics are up in arms over the advice , which many saying advice, which many are saying masks symbolic of lockdown. a time when people were keen to get so fast. others believe a small gesture to present the nhs becoming stretched . so for the becoming stretched. so for the great british debate this year, i'm asking you object to wearing a face. let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined now by lizzie cundy, of course, and sam dalla. and also joining me , matt dalla. and also joining me, matt hoy, excuse me, 40 think well. yes, good, thanks paul, i'm going to start with you because i find why you're here. why are in where do you fight? well, the thing is, i think it's to do with anything. they try mandate. it's like it's forced upon people and my whole thing at minute choice. everything minute is choice. everything should you should be choice. you know, you have the vaccine there there you have the vaccine there there you have the vaccine there there you have the masks. if want to wear a mask, you can wear a mask. i'm

not going to judge you for wearing a mask and i wouldn't expect to be judged for not one. i the for me. i think the thing for me. i always say this. had a moment always say this. i had a moment earlier on in the and it was i was calling my starbucks and i walked in there and had to wear a mask walk in and order that a mask to walk in and order that when you down, you had to when you sat down, you had to take it off. now restaurant, cafe, whatever it's a room. so when stood up then to go and re—order or go to the toilet, you had to put the mask back on and. i'm kind of wondering how covid is certainly covid new, i think is certainly then of course, and you can flip it its you know, it's fi it on its you know, it's fi virus. it's very low in the air. exactly. yeah. but what about the argument that, you know, like capacity , if i would like capacity, if i would actually discuss it with, i would cover my mouth then please manage on my hands and stuff like that. wouldn't you feel more comfortable if did that. more comfortable if i did that. i'm to block the i'm using my hand to block the thing. up i thing. coming up isn't i think that's manners. but that's just manners. yeah but isn't the case of .covid isn't a in the case of .covid masks in place public transport stuff would be manners. even though could something though i could touch something after my or touch after sneezing on my or touch

your or hands with your face or shake hands with you. but you. it's still manners, but without them. yes, but it doesn't really anything. i mean, for me, whole thing , the for me, the whole thing, the mask, of mask is to mask, the symbol of mask is to protect protect the person, protect protect the person, protect you. obviously what? he sighs. he does, but you don't. the threat of getting bacteria from where? when it comes from myself , from where? when it comes from myself, asthma. you breathe in your own air and you breathe in your own air and you breathe in your dioxide all the your own carbon dioxide all the time. of getting time. i'm at risk of getting bacterial , which time. i'm at risk of getting bacterial, which is far time. i'm at risk of getting bacterial , which is far worse bacterial, which is far worse covid would ever be. i think i'd rather escape with covid than getting bacterial pneumonia. but you can get pneumonia with covid. what about you? i mean, look i i personally, i'm look, i mean, i personally, i'm bothered someone just bothered if someone mask just wear . and i think there wear a mask. and i think there will be some types slight marginal benefit . yeah, even if marginal benefit. yeah, even if it's small. i've had the vaccine i've had the virus, i've had it all so i'm wearing a mask all and so i'm wearing a mask i'm kind trying to shield i'm kind of trying to shield anybody else to well, i mean anybody else to me. well, i mean the thing i think when i spoke to mom on way in actually to my mom on the way in actually on phone and she telling on the phone and she was telling me how so my mum, 72 and me how today so my mum, 72 and today she went to the manchester

cotton and she she cotton culliton and she felt she was an environment, know, cotton culliton and she felt she was flu's environment, know, cotton culliton and she felt she was flu's going)nment, know, cotton culliton and she felt she was flu's going around know, cotton culliton and she felt she was flu's going around such know, cotton culliton and she felt she was flu's going around such sherv, and flu's going around such she put on a mask and without saying anything the, the person who was doing her put on a mask well and passing to on mask passing to put on the mask as well. didn't them well. she didn't ask them i think so it would especially with people, it's just with older people, it's just about considerate . mean, about being considerate. i mean, if if what makes if that's if that's what makes feel then then feel comfortable, then then then do that. i mean, i don't think there should be another mandate, but think, you know, for some but i think, you know, for some people, it makes it make them feel and they feel out of you. and if they want to that then especially, want to do that then especially, as at hairdressers, as i said at the hairdressers, it's so you're there it's a service. so you're there to, to help your to, you know, to help your customers. so that makes me think it end? think when would it ever end? when football when it ever end. football what's wrong with it? you know, because we didn't have them before so do before covid. so why just do people do it? you the know people do it? you the know people wearing them often like especially, you know, especially people from asia they the figures and and years figures and years and years would know people even would see you know people even like china it still depleted like china but it still depleted the covid people is totally it's all about choice if you want to wear a mask wear one. if you

don't don't though i tell you i don't don't though i tell you i don't wear a mask. didn't i didn't want to wear one. i didn't want to wear one. i didn't get covid either. and it you know, i don't feel anyone should be forced do something we all know in some non the states i'm sorry but it's know it's some nanny state and most of my friends who wore a mask didn't it properly. it was under their oh they would be wearing it on they . and then have on they chin. and then you have on a mask and can i tell you something else. it's a mask brought so mental health issues it we've got a mental epidemic with youngsters to wear them at school who has not recovered from the lockdown crisis and it has had a terrible effect on mental health where my thing is for me and i'm going to say i mean, i do think a school you should be wearing a mask silly because, you know, you can't see the teacher and like that, especially if it's french especially if it's a french class she's that, you class and she's doing that, you should see them out so you don't know going. the know what's going. that's the same . wearing a where you

same as. wearing a where you don't see oh burqa we can't see the face teaching a lesson that requires there's a barrier. see to see what you're doing. you can't see, smile yeah, see, but see what you're doing . but i see what you're doing. but i don't the big deal in don't see the big deal in saying, you have to wear saying, oh, you have to wear a mask public transport. i'm mask on public transport. i'm not i think that not bothered about. i think that that is they're that the main is they're supposed be for protection supposed to be for protection and the amount times and the amount of times i've seen coming out of seen women intern coming out of shops in restaurants getting the dirty of handbag dirty mask out of their handbag or some walking down the street putting want have jeans putting want to have his jeans and on his face. you and putting it on his face. you know to have know is disgusting to have can these yeah these be health reasons. yeah but let the make their own mind up. let the public their own mind go . they mind up wherever we go. they went and amanda again went to them and amanda again like they did. so what if they mandate we defy the mandate that we defy the mandate? would you just the mandate? would you just wear the mask now? i've never mask and laugh now? i've never wear i've never wore wear a mask. i've never wore them. we listening them. oh, i wanted we listening to these unqualified scientists . no we had doctors and well i'm sorry scientists but . i'm so sorry scientists but. i'm so sorry. there's so many germs on on masks and people don't even wear them condoms . that's what wear them condoms. that's what wear them condoms. that's what we need to do. why? that's nina

said when i put them , i had to said when i put them, i had to definitely stop it and suffocate first. so you protect yourself ? first. so you protect yourself? no, no. this was a stupid people. if you actually please don't do like me, you get what we try to tell think think that you know, honestly it just say right that they mandated mask wearing on public transport would would that be a problem for it wouldn't be a problem for me i would do wouldn't be a plan because it's not. we're not. because it's not. no, we're not. for 100% wear for me, i would have 100% wear because said, as said at because as you said, as said at the time, it is to protect all people, to protect vulnerable people. this government can't run like a nanny run the country like a nanny state. can't forced . can't state. it can't be forced. can't all the government can't run the country. well you know . but you country. well you know. but you know , just about because , again, know, just about because, again, they got us talking about the vaccine , the birth, our vaccine, the birth, our attention for the fact that they've got migrants coming to this country from the uk is the least of all worries, very sick

thousand illegal immigrants mandated and the botched not law. and luckily this is a choice it really is choice . know choice it really is choice. know what about like imagine this scenario that sounds put you in where you get the addresses they've got the masks on and you know it's a little old lady's already quite frightened. i mean, you still going to it mean, you still going to give it the not going to the big one? so not going to say, no, no, i wouldn't say, no, no, no, no. i wouldn't even give the big one if you even give you the big one if you didn't put them on. i just think, know, education and think, you know, education and trying people, talk think, you know, education and try people people, talk think, you know, education and try people about people, talk think, you know, education and trypeople about pe situation. to people about the situation. if feel if it makes them feel comfortable, fine. comfortable, that's fine. but how long do think they how long do you think they wouldn't know we to wouldn't wait? i know we need to build we to build build immunity. we need to build up that's thing. but up immunity. that's thing. but i would explain to woman would explain to a woman so millions the jabs. millions have had the jabs. yeah, bit their age. my yeah, i'm a bit their age. my mum said that was because like these are people who want to be right when you're right next to a face when you're doing hair. like, doing somebody's hair. so like, i think and on the i mean i think that's and on the staff health is staff you just mental health is more an issue and that's what more of an issue and that's what we've got and we've got in the us could protect us as well. so it could protect with that have bigger with things that have bigger droplets. know debate droplets. you know debate just people talking so

people spit they're talking so just think that might help with other things but because i nofice other things but because i notice that even with covid i didn't at the time i think i got covered at the beginning. also, i didn't get all the other little ailments as well. so perhaps there's something it for other maybe i other things. but maybe when i had i had i had covid had it too, i had i had covid terribly. i lost my i lost my taste smell. was was taste of smell. it was it was awful. and the first thing i thought was, oh, but actually was australian sister was was my australian sister was living time and living with us at the time and the she gave me the first thing she gave me a scowl as you know, when scowl as in like, you know, when you're not wearing mouth scowl as in like, you know, when you' i! not wearing mouth scowl as in like, you know, when you'i was wearing mouth scowl as in like, you know, when you'i was like, 'ing mouth scowl as in like, you know, when you'i was like, oh, mouth scowl as in like, you know, when you'i was like, oh, i mouth scowl as in like, you know, when you'i was like, oh, i wasnouth scowl as in like, you know, when you'i was like, oh, i was likeh and i was like, oh, i was like all wasn't, i wasn't like, oh did i slip well let's find did i slip up. well let's find out have you think this out what have you think is this show them and show is nothing without them and i this welcome of great i listen this welcome of great british voices their opportunity to and tell us to be on the show and tell us what about the topic what they think about the topic by i've four of yeah by discussing. i've four of yeah right with right let's start with dr. ashley keynes you are right let's start with dr. a�*doctor keynes you are right let's start with dr. a�*doctor she's keynes you are right let's start with dr. a�*doctor she's a keynes you are right let's start with dr. a�*doctor she's a doctor; you are right let's start with dr. a�*doctor she's a doctor so3u are a doctor she's a doctor so doctor what do you think about this mandated doctor what do you think about this you mandated doctor what do you think about this you wear mandated doctor what do you think about this you wear one? mandated doctor what do you think about this you wear one? no,1dated doctor what do you think about this you wear one? no,1dat

in addition, my young children all, three of them, wear masks to school during the pandemic. and then we had outbreaks in the patients units. i worked in, and a mask definitely helped save me and protect me from getting . so and protect me from getting. so i do think . it's common sense. i do think. it's common sense. it's a multilayered approach of prevention in to covering your face. you sneeze, you know , face. you sneeze, you know, disposing your tissues, washing your and maintaining distance. so yes, definitely would say the approach is to wear a mask , but approach is to wear a mask, but it's a personal choice but to wear masks, walking to school in the outside doesn't make any sense. oh, let's get the bryant goodies there in solihull . let goodies there in solihull. let you there in solihull. brown taken. i am indeed an honour. i've got it right for once . what i've got it right for once. what do you think of the mask or not a mask? the other issue with it ihave a mask? the other issue with it i have i no objection to it, you know, in and of itself it's not going to prevent anything but as you say in terms of in combination with everything else such as ventilation vaccination

it's a well—established that masks work in tandem with all those measures so why would you not know once saying that masks alone will prevent the transmission but if they reduce combination with all of those other measures then why why would we not really ? thank you would we not really? thank you very much for that. brian dooley with that. she's in bedfordshire. what do you think mask or no mask policy with wearing one, you're mandated . no wearing one, you're mandated. no have no issue with wearing one. if have to wear one, it would be a choice for me not to wear one. i'm under vulnerable group anyway because i have congenital defect. so i was literally in vaccine up to my eyeballs , but vaccine up to my eyeballs, but wearing a mask it didn't worry me whether other people weren't. but i agree with everybody else that it's about building up our immunity as well. everything you pick up now in supermarket kills 99.9% of germs. we don't have the immunity we had when we were kids, when we were eating dirt

and everything else , what we and everything else, what we need worried about need to be worried about exporting immune system exporting our immune system again. think never that . i again. think i never ate that. i used to peel peel chewing off the floor and chew that instead . yeah. thank you, jamie , for . yeah. thank you, jamie, for that. all right. it's no secret, alan mcneil is from grimsby. alan mcneil is from grimsby. alan what do you think ? i think alan what do you think? i think the mascot moves people who are not are complete . that's our not are complete. that's our waste of time . unless you're waste of time. unless you're going to have a medically prescribed mask that actually your face and there's a reason for wearing it. it's just nonsense , scaremongering, nonsense, scaremongering, rubbish . there might be a reason rubbish. there might be a reason for wearing a mask in hospital, but to be out walking up, i the people want to do it that's fine but these novelties that the wear their face they just ridiculous are doing any good whatsoever it's all about virtue over how terrible how scared we should we all be. i mean i just should we all be. i mean ijust think it's absolutely rubbish. i can think of stronger but i'll stick with rubbish. yeah stick

with that please. thank you very much. alan daly. brian deegan. juue much. alan daly. brian deegan. julie ford and dr. cecily mueller. thank you so much for joining us. this is why great british. it's time for british. but now it's time for our quickfire quiz, the part of the where test my panel on the show where test my panel on some of the other topics hitting, headlines right hitting, the headlines right now. now now. i'm joined now by broadcaster and lizzie cundy. lizzie, a please and lizzie, who was a please and also political commentator also a political commentator some doubt or some doubt . right. some doubt or some doubt. right. may please play along at home. right. so question one footballer, cristiano , made an footballer, cristiano, made an embarrassing own goal, a press conference for his new. but what did he say? did he a forgot the name of his club ? he couldn't name of his club? he couldn't remember the country he was in or c he fell off his lizzie a guy for a softball. what do you think i think b and the answer is behave in the country he was in, but as your father before you spoke also you can't know . you spoke also you can't know. you haven't gone and sat down at one point in question as well . one point in question as well. you could have said that he happy to have made the south

africa he was now africa when in fact he was now playing the club in playing for the club al—nasr in saudi arabia . and last year his saudi arabia. and last year his contract with manchester united was abruptly terminated following a tell interview following a tell all interview with . we're not his with piers. we're not his transfer worth the transfer was worth the staggering 175 million quid. wow how much would you consider the money you accept? under 35 million. go . on anything for million. go. on anything for just a million? exactly to clause wins according to the first ever sexuality and gender census. how people in england and wales identify as lgbtq. i'm down to 1.5 million. lizzie . 1.2. and wales identify as lgbtq. i'm down to 1.5 million. lizzie . 1.2 . 1. down to 1.5 million. lizzie. 1.2. 1. the that you know that this one's got point 3% of the population in this hundred year history census ever included there for lgbtq+ community stonewall chief executive said the census now paints a more accurate picture right . question accurate picture right. question three which british accent has

been voted the sexiest to a survey? i'm sorry you are describing? is it the london accent? be geordie accent or see the mancunian accent ? lucy, i'm the mancunian accent? lucy, i'm going to go for because i'm a londoner. what were you going to say. oh, that you're going to say. oh, that you're going to say liverpool . that's not say liverpool. that's not on there. so d geordie the answer is c bangkok and both wrong doesn't matter. according to the survey by best casinos, the manc twang in the accent to get people hot under the collar . people hot under the collar. mancunians topped the leaderboard they a neighbours and ireland. oh, to be sure . and ireland. oh, to be sure. which one would you accept? would you like if you really do like irish? actually these were irish scouse. i loved scouse. i'd say brummie from a boozy very good. you look him in his and in his mouth and then he to try try that tonight. question for true or false winning actor edward norton discovered he was descendant of a historical figure, pocahontas. true or false ? i think that was you. is

false? i think that was you. is it true? is it true? and sometimes it's true. that is true . it is actually true. yes. true. it is actually true. yes. yes, i think i am as well. the thing i'm not pocahontas the fight club actor discovered the pocahontas was his 12th great grandma on tv show. pocahontas was a native american woman who married english settler in the 16005. married english settler in the 1600s. the story is frequently depicted in popular culture, including disney. depicted in popular culture, including disney . who's your including disney. who's your favourite disney characters ? i favourite disney characters? i love snow white. oh, she's. what about you, belle i think beginning to be. well, you. she can't do this anymore because you have in the same you couldn't have in the same room. woke brigade would room. the woke brigade would know have some know you're going to have some sleep. story. think sleep. you got story. i think it's with or, you know it's people with or, you know lattes that is basically wrong. question five prince harry has been the headlines this been hitting the headlines this week extra of his memoir week after extra of his memoir were leaked . the press in his were leaked. the press in his autobiography harry reveals that the nickname he has his brother for prince . but what is the for prince. but what is the nickname? is it a winnie? is it b boldy or c, that . oh, i think b boldy or c, that. oh, i think i did it on. will you go? that

was it. i wish it was bold, but it's willie. okay, what is. is willie hilton is. is willie absolutely right. i will tell the school's in a moment, but prince william also has a nickname for his brother and calls in harold in private . calls in harold in private. according to one of the extracts, william physically attacked the duke of sussex following an argument about his wife meghan. i have seen my panel. wife meghan. i have seen my panel . that argument i mean, panel. that argument i mean, they all fight with it. i mean how many you know sibling you know fights it happens the time and the thing is with harry he's not just lost his is royal family's lost the military family's lost the military family and indeed nearly lost something else because at first by owning i thought i've got a sister and we've had some riotous fights, you know physical, mental, you know, everything so it's just a totally naturally nobody can push up buttons your sibling and it happens all the time it must not i mean my sisters do the things i should do. i put up all my pens. it depends. because then corner

then she would cut the corner and i know pen would come . i and i know my pen would come. i want . what is it? on today's want. what is it? on today's show we've been asking, who do you trust? this is in echoes of keir starmer. according to our twitter , for 9.2. if you just twitter, for 9.2. if you just sit back, 6.7% of you trust that. keir starmer , 39.4% trust. that. keir starmer, 39.4% trust. richard reform uk while 44% of you don't support any of the above thank you so much to my panel broadcast i'm lesley cundy, a political commentator sam dowler and a huge thank you to for joining sam dowler and a huge thank you to forjoining me sam dowler and a huge thank you to for joining me today. to you for joining me today. i'll be back tomorrow at four to discuss top with discuss the top stories with christine podcast christine hamilton and podcast mentalist will also mentalist danny kelly will also for x factor starlet katie . for x factor starlet katie. don't go anywhere. i'll see you then. don't go anywhere. i'll see you then . apple looking ahead to then. apple looking ahead to this evening's and the uk is looking rather with bands of showers heavy at times and brighter spells in between . here brighter spells in between. here are the details. a blustery spell for the west country . spell for the west country. scattered showers pushing across the on a fresh southwesterly wind. temperatures generally falling to between seven and ten

celsius for london and, southeast england. the evening will be rather with the risk of some heavy showers and temperatures between seven and nine celsius. showery for south wales and cloudy at times as bands of showers move in from southwest turning windy with temperatures between seven and nine celsius. birmingham and the west midlands are likely to a band of heavy showers move eastwards across the region through the evening . it will through the evening. it will turn rather with temperatures of around or seven celsius and is a similar story for northeast england where band of showers heavy at times will move eastwards across the region through evening. turning breezy with of around seven or eight celsius southern . scotland will celsius southern. scotland will also see a few showers through the evening time with clearer spells in between and a light moderate southwesterly and temperatures of between five and seven celsius. a moderate fresh southwesterly breeze for ireland through the evening with areas of cloud, a scattering of

showers and some clear spells. temperatures six or seven celsius. low pressure will to dominate the uk's weather overnight, bringing gales to the far northwest and further scattered showers . and that's scattered showers. and that's how the weather shaping up .

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