the image, it's 8:00 and this is mark dolan tonight. 3 hours of discussion , debate and plenty of discussion, debate and plenty of fun along the way, including my big opinion monologue , my take big opinion monologue, my take at ten. the panel and tomorrow's sunday papers . but we start with sunday papers. but we start with the people's hour in which i'll be taking your video calls. the topics how do we fix the nhs was william right to give harry a slap and should it be harder to get divorced .7 i'll be doing that get divorced? i'll be doing that in the company of a total broadcasting hero of mine. i'm calling him the pele of the papers . fleet street legend mike papers. fleet street legend mike paul key parry lots to get through don't do boring not on my watch a massive 3 hours to come including my diary of the

week which is next but first the headunes week which is next but first the headlines and with me all evening my wing commander aaron armstrong . hi there. yes good armstrong. hi there. yes good evening. aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom downing street has described discussions between nhs leaders and the prime minister as highly valuable . minister as highly valuable. rishi sunak, the health secretary and ministers from the treasury health crisis, talks with health expert at downing street in an effort to ease the pressure on the nhs. the health secretary, steve barclay, says at least two innovative solutions have been identified to tackle some of the challenges facing the sector . chief facing the sector. chief executive of the lewis pharmacy group, j. patel says the talks were constructive . you know, the were constructive. you know, the session with us, it was a small of us have lots of insights into what the problems really are out there . balance between community there. balance between community pharmacy and general practise and great description of .

and some great description of. what the core issues are out there on the ground. the pm was very receptive to what we discussed and we explained the issues and swiftly moved on to looking at options we could put into place to be able to rapidly see we alleviate of those see if we can alleviate of those challenges . shadow minister for challenges. shadow minister for health andrew gwynne, though, says reforms are needed to fix the crisis . everybody who an the crisis. everybody who an interest in the national health service really should be running the table , trying to work out the table, trying to work out not only the short term measures that are needed to get us through the rest of this winter, but also how then put health and social care on a sustainable footing, the kind of reforms that are needed , the kind of that are needed, the kind of investment that's needed for the long term, not just sticking plasters . shelling is continuing plasters. shelling is continuing in ukraine. despite russia's proposed 36 hour ceasefire missile strikes have been heard in the eastern of black market. as one resident described, the situation there, we've spent the

whole hour town used to be so beautiful . there were roses beautiful. there were roses everywhere . flowers. it was everywhere. flowers. it was clean . everything was kept in clean. everything was kept in order . when clean. everything was kept in order. when russia clean. everything was kept in order . when russia declared clean. everything was kept in order. when russia declared its forces would observe a unilateral ceasefire for orthodox christmas , which was orthodox christmas, which was immediately dismissed by kyiv as propaganda and a cynical trap . propaganda and a cynical trap. the kremlin claims its troops only fired in retaliation to attacks from ukrainian forces . attacks from ukrainian forces. the ceasefire is due to end at 10:00 our time . the foreign 10:00 our time. the foreign secretary has condemned iran's execution of two protesters. james cleverly called the hangings abhorrent and, urged the country to immediately end the country to immediately end the violence against its own people. iran the two men for allegedly killing a member of its security forces during . its security forces during. nationwide demonstrations following the death of the 22 year old kurdish iranian woman amini last september. police the

united states have arrested a six year old boy after he shot and seriously injured a teacher at primary school in the state of virginia . officers say the of virginia. officers say the woman's injuries were initially thought to be life threatening, but her condition has improved in hospital. the chief police officer said the shooting was not accident and said the two had what he has described as an altercation. it's unclear how child got hold of the handgun . child got hold of the handgun. the rmt union says rail companies at the heart of the long running dispute made hundreds of millions of pounds in profits during the pandemic. the union claims huge profits were generated when the government awarded private train operators new contracts during . operators new contracts during. they say made up to £310 million in taxpayer funded profits between march 2020 and september 2020 to. it comes as the rmt and the 14 train operators continue their 48 hour walkout over pay, jobs and conditions.

their 48 hour walkout over pay, jobs and conditions . and these jobs and conditions. and these have been urged to support paid leave for miscarriage. the proposal by an snp member grant three days of statutory pay to parents paid leave that is to experience a miscarriage before 24 weeks of pregnancy. angela said it would give parents the time they need to grieve. carol pay time they need to grieve. carol pay bereavement leave is only given after stillbirth after 24 weeks. prince harry claims he was not real best man at the wedding of his brother the prince of wales in. more bleak excerpts from his memoir. the duke of sussex reportedly says the role was fulfilled . his the role was fulfilled. his brother's two closest friends . brother's two closest friends. he also suggests king charles feared meghan would dominate the monarchy and, steal the limelight from charles camilla, referring to his military. harry says he killed 25 taliban fighters , a claim which has been fighters, a claim which has been criticised by the british army and the taliban themselves . and

and the taliban themselves. and flood warnings are in place across england and wales as heavy downpours are expected to hit the uk overnight. there are 27 flood warnings in place for england , with a further eight in england, with a further eight in place for wales . and in place for wales. and in scotland, the environment protection agency has issued six flood alerts . for the moment. tv flood alerts. for the moment. tv online and dab radio. this is gb news but now it is back to the wonderful motto. thanks to arron, who's back in an hour's time. welcome to we start with the people's hour in which be taking your video calls . the big stories of the day. tonight, the stars of the show francis insoles free. robyn in cairns . alan in. yateley andrew cairns. alan in. yateley andrew in essex . i last but not least,

in essex. i last but not least, mikayla in elgin . we'll be mikayla in elgin. we'll be heanng mikayla in elgin. we'll be hearing a lot from them over the next 60 minutes. the topics tonight's as the prime minister holds an nhs crisis meeting at number 10. how do we fix the nhs? i'm for your solutions. with the world's unhappiest billionaire becoming the epitome of tmi, too much , then you've of tmi, too much, then you've got to ask yourself, was william right, to give harry a bit of a slap. and with monday, the 9th of january, this monday, now dubbed divorce day , should we dubbed divorce day, should we make it harder to get divorced ? make it harder to get divorced? my make it harder to get divorced? my saturday sidekick for, the first hour of the show is a broadcasting and journalistic legend. he is the pele of the papers mike corky parry , mike, papers mike corky parry, mike, great to have you with us. can't wait to hear your views on all of these big stories of the night. in my opinion, the nhs

crisis is no justification for ruinous covid measures as the siren voices for , masks and work siren voices for, masks and work from home grow louder, we must draw a line under these wildly discredited measures. just say no . it's a big question. as more no. it's a big question. as more and more sex toys hit the high street. mike parry's quite shocked. we'll be asking, do you want to see sex toys on the high 7 want to see sex toys on the high ? how do you feel about sex? these are all the strange vibrating devices. sat next to paracetamol and. yep, shower gel . shocking. we'll also get the views of the queen of us show this royal and political reporting. kinsey schofield on. prince harry's latest revelation and all the couple falling out of favour in the us it is going to be a us news special with the brilliant kinsey schofield after nine and in the news agenda my panel as millennials reveal they

dread it . panel as millennials reveal they dread it. turning 30. is it time for young to grow up? also should companies be more generous to their staff? plus, as people pay to freeze their bodies , is there life after bodies, is there life after death? would you like to have your body frozen let me know? mark@gbnews.uk we've also got tomorrow's papers . of course tomorrow's papers. of course it's the sunday papers from 1020 right through until 11. that 10 minutes earlier than everyone else. so there you go, 3 hours of debate and this is mark dolan tonight. it is saturday. so put something cold and fizzy in the fridge or fire up the kettle and let's have a night to remember. your video calls in just a moment . but first, my look back moment. but first, my look back at the week in dolan's diary . at the week in dolan's diary. it's time now for my diary of the week and big brexit news as reported by the guardian newspaper , thousands of britons newspaper, thousands of britons have been expelled from the eu since the end of the transition

period. more than 2250 uk nationals have been ordered to leave bloc since january 2021. well, that's nothing . i've been well, that's nothing. i've been doing some research and it turns out that 66 million people left the bloc . on the 23rd of june the bloc. on the 23rd of june 2016. bad news now for cold sufferers as let them sip our running out of stock. that's right there's a shortage which is supermarket shelves amid the worst flu outbreak in decades suppues worst flu outbreak in decades supplies so low that opportunist drug dealers have swapped crack cocaine and crystal meth for night nurse and vanillin the street value of vicks cold and flu has caught drupal eight and thatis flu has caught drupal eight and that is some pretty hot stuff, let me tell you. i strung out last night on vaporub and i'm still not right . renee's mashed still not right. renee's mashed up on a spoon .just say no. now, up on a spoon. just say no. now, david beckham's son, brooklyn

beckham, has been mocked this week for his latest cooking video in which he bakes a piece of meat worth over £300, 300 quids. in fairness , he only buys quids. in fairness, he only buys the fine livestock. i'm told when he's at the sainsbury's meat counter , he always asks the meat counter, he always asks the golden bulls fitness join the peloton on is being fined $19 million over a delay reporting defects . in 4000 of its tread defects. in 4000 of its tread mills that have led to serious accidents . now i can totally accidents. now i can totally relate to this. i was on one of those during lockdown and i almost spilt my pint. meanwhile prince harry has caused consternation , with the release consternation, with the release of his tell autobiography, spare. many people are complaining about its price too . i think 25 quid for a dorset shopis . i think 25 quid for a dorset shop is a bit of a bargain. the book contains lurid revelations about losing his virginity to an

older woman in a field behind a pub. now i'll spare the gory details about position and everything, but suffice to say that he did to that lady what he's currently doing to his own family and the country. he's currently doing to his own family and the country . also in family and the country. also in the book, harry alleges prince william shoved him , broke his william shoved him, broke his necklace and grabbed his collar, sending him flying the grounds. the bad news is that they have destroyed their relationship. the good news is that don king is offering them $100 million for the rematch . i'd to see for the rematch. i'd to see that. now, in his first keynote speech of the year, minister rishi sunak has announced plans to make study maths until 18. now let's have this right. the only person who needs to get the hang of arithmetic is sunak, who will have to work out how to govern a minority party at the next election . greggs the bakers next election. greggs the bakers have increased the price of a

sausage roll by. wait for five p t 0 £1.20. sausage roll by. wait for five p to £1.20. this is the fourth increase in a year. more expensive sausage rolls. what's swines you cumberland be serious babe. what were you thinking? that's taking the pig . shocking that's taking the pig. shocking news now. and a grandmother was strapped to a wheelie bin and dnven strapped to a wheelie bin and driven to after breaking her hip. the innovation backfired because she was dressed as a bin. she wasn't picked up for two weeks and that is my diary of the week . let's speak now to of the week. let's speak now to the journalistic and broadcasting legend mike porky parry, the pele , the papers. parry, the pele, the papers. mike, great to have you on the show. happy new year. well, thank you very for inviting thank you very much for inviting me on. and i normally say me on. and i don't normally say happy new year to anybody. after midday on new year's day , midday on new year's day, because as far as i'm concerned, you've to get on with life. and

if people are still thinking about happy new year, a week after the new year happened, i say you've got to think a different . i quite like that. different. i quite like that. you are smart than the average bean you are smart than the average bear. you think outside the box. you're not, are you? sorry. was probably incinerated on the 26th of december. was it? no, not at all. i mean, look, i love the christmas period. it's great to get together with the. but it should be contained. in three days, christmas eve , christmas days, christmas eve, christmas day, boxing day and woosh. and then i'm away. okay, we're out now. my birthday's on the 29th, so i then have to get into another 24 hour sort of multi. yes, everybody loves me type area where you when you when you let your guard down, let my guard down and then new eve. i've never been a new year ever because i regard it as a night for amateurs. okay because, you know, the sort of life that you and i have led in the media world, we work in. we've met a lot of people regard new year's

eve as down—market from normal night after work on the main. so the ams has come out new year's eve. i'm delighted to be able to tell you, mark, that on new year's eve i was actually here at gb news serving gb news and serving the nation and seeing them into 2023, which can only be a better year than 22, surely well, it can only be. so that's my dream . mike perry on my dream. mike perry on television, on radio, in print, onune. television, on radio, in print, online . yeah. you're on every online. yeah. you're on every platform. yes a quick word for me before we sink your teeth into these big stories of with the great british public. yes. amazing yes. a simple question for you. will this be the year , for you. will this be the year, the sunak or the year of the storm? well, it won't be the year either, will it? because the election's not going to be this year. is it fortunate? so highly unlikely. it's highly unlikely. you think we'll have a better year because in way

better year because in a way they both got an opportunity, haven't they? because storm has got year demonstrate that got a year to demonstrate that he's ministerial material. he's prime ministerial material. yes to do the job yes got a year to do the job well. well . rishi recently well. well. rishi recently issued the five point plan. didn't he. yeah. how recently was up. is it this week. it's tuesday. that's right. the five point plan. and that seems to have settled everybody down it's settled the markets down and the pound up it's settled, conserved vote is down on it's settled actually what i would call the hierarchy down in the sense that we might not have another revolution in this year, but i think the still room for a revolution when the may elections come around. i think our first announced my theory on this on your show a weeks ago that if it gets really bad for the tories however i believe very, very strongly in the silent majority this country and i still think the silent majority believe that the tories

are better able to manage the finances of this country. i think despite, despite, you know , they are right. keir starmer is changing his clothes by the day. i don't believe people believe what trying to tell us. he believes . i've got to say, he believes. i've got to say, mike parry , always with his mike parry, always with his finger on the pulse. that happens to be my view . well, i happens to be my view. well, i don't think either of these politicians are perfect , but i politicians are perfect, but i happen to think that in keir starmer are currently too high and shares in rishi sunak are too low. lovely way to put it. well done. lovely work. so and mike is a man of means. will that you buy shares when they're low low, not high. he easy easy for me to say mike is here for the next hour can't to get through all those big story and we're going to sink our teeth into the issue of the nhs next. how do we fix it? we've also got was william right to give harry a slap the face? and should it be harder to get divorced? it's your opinions .

next welcome you mark dolan tonight and the people's in which i'm taking your video calls alongside fleet street legend pele of the papers, mike porky parry. now let's kick off with one of the big stories of the week and our in crisis with ambulances queuing outside, hospitals unable to even get patients into the building, with nurses on strike and a waiting list of over 7 million. and with the service collapsing under the weight of covid and influenza patients just can we fix the nhs? the prime minister called an emergency meeting this morning. if you were around that table. what would you be advising him? ask mike porky

parry in just a moment. let's speak to alan in north hampshire . hi, alan. hi, mark. and hello nicely, nicely done. alan, what is a no intended what is your prescription for the nhs? as a very wise man of the world that you are . okay my prescription you are. okay my prescription for the nhs , the nhs broken and for the nhs, the nhs broken and you're not going to fix it until the broken country is fixed. all we're doing is putting plaster oven we're doing is putting plaster over. plaster stuff. and as know the more plasters the less the less adhesion . yeah. so the less adhesion. yeah. so the country needs these fixed and by fix. i really do made a completely political system . i completely political system. i done not advocating communism or anything extreme like . but we do anything extreme like. but we do need change things and maybe . gb

need change things and maybe. gb news needs to have some serious debate with some of your wonderful presenters such as neil oliver david starkey starkey mark steyn people who come from all directions . let's come from all directions. let's not forget my porky parry . not forget my porky parry. holly, can you can you can you bnng holly, can you can you can you bring my porky parry into this? because he's got right to reply. of course. nigel nigel farage a shout, alan. yeah, yeah. no, definitely nigel farage because a kingpin to the solution . mm a kingpin to the solution. mm i think you've very much barry is wonderful. i just wish . stop wonderful. i just wish. stop doing that all the time. oh, well, that's okay. but i just need to know that i'm man of the people. you said to me, and i've seen you pick up that habit. your hero, paul mccartney. yes i did, actually. yeah, i did. except i think he probably picked it up for me because i'm i'm older. younger than him. i'm older. i'm younger than him.

but you've been but listen, mike, you've been reporting nhs decades. reporting on the nhs decades. sure. your prescription? sure. what's your prescription? right. well let let's let's get it concise . because, you know, it concise. because, you know, this is a tight programme to get the over. since 2010, the facts over. since 2010, according the king fund formula , the budget for nhs has increased by 50. i mean that literally from 120 billion in 2010, 2010, of course, was when david cameron first took control of the coalition government . so of the coalition government. so people who say the tories don't put enough money into the nhs. yes, it's gone up 50. that is 70 billion in those 12 years. so that means that the tory heart there is . right. but what's there is. right. but what's wrong is the way you've used that 70 billion. it's been wasted. it's largely been used on middle managers. do you know there are 8000 diversity officers in whitehall across , officers in whitehall across, all public services and about 30% of them are dealing with the

nhs. of i want diversity. i want the nhs to represent country we live in. but you don't need 8000 diversity officers . some of whom diversity officers. some of whom get paid over £100,000. what about the middle managers also a say on the picket lines . all say on the picket lines. all nurses. alls we ever see going to hospitals are doctors . when to hospitals are doctors. when do we ever see . the middle do we ever see. the middle manager? this is the guy. responsibility is economically run a hospital and make it work . we never see them. there's far too many middle managers. half of the whole nhs budget is spent on wages. little ali shouldn't at least two thirds or three quarters of the nhs budget be on delivering care at the coalface. yeah alan, what do you think about that? you persuaded by mike porky perry's prescription 7 mike porky perry's prescription ? oh, i go along totally with it. but it's not just the nhs who is drowning in middle

management . the country is management. the country is drowning in middle. management. the country is drowning in middle . growth isn't drowning in middle. growth isn't fit for purpose. true, it's not. you know, every body has to play a part. there's too many people not paying apart. and listen, what about money, alan, is money a factor? i'm a big fan of the statistic that the nhs costs every household in the country £13,000 a year one three, £160 billion. surely it's not about cash anymore, alan. every family in this country has to budget. they know how much they can spend on essentials . isn't it spend on essentials. isn't it time that the government started doing the same with all the states , companies and all and states, companies and all and the state would generally. yeah well, mike, you've worked mike's worked in the private sector for a long, long time. and the way operate mike is there is a accountability. it's about the line. yes. a lean, mean business like gb news. yes. cannot have

waste because we wouldn't survive . no, of course we survive. no, of course we wouldn't. now, this is saturday night . we're working here. gb night. we're working here. gb news. okay you know what? gb news. okay you know what? gb news also works on friday afternoon, it works sunday. the nhs does not work from 2:00 on friday afternoon until 9:00 on monday morning. and you're going to. how do you know that? a few ago, my baby loving mother died. she was in bournemouth , ospital she was in bournemouth, ospital for the last sort few months of her life. i used to dance here on a sunday and it was like visiting the mary celeste . there visiting the mary celeste. there was nobody in there . this is not was nobody in there. this is not an apocryphal story . this is me an apocryphal story. this is me witnessing the fact that all these huge were empty. all these great clinical rooms were empty. and i said somebody i said, hang on. what if my mum needs a bit of training today? he said, you better cross your fingers because actually about 2:00 on friday to a monday morning, there is nobody here. now, this

is the very i'm making about the middle managers to the middle managers just want to make their life cosy. is nhs in fact being run for the benefit of the people who are employed there or it being run for the millions of people in this country who pay for it and want a decent service? alan i'm going to give you the last word. what does the new improved nhs like. oh, wow . new improved nhs like. oh, wow. thatis new improved nhs like. oh, wow. that is a hell of a question . that is a hell of a question. what are the new improved nhs to look like? i spoke one word that comes to mind is streamline and able to streamline efficient and that's what we're looking for. you know, the money is wasted best be ploughed into it at the moment . make that money count, moment. make that money count, make every penny count and lets it be shown where that money is going. let's have transparency . going. let's have transparency. alan for health secretary. alan

a brilliant contribution will see you very soon indeed . up a brilliant contribution will see you very soon indeed. up in the people's hour , should it be the people's hour, should it be harder to get divorce? is it time to ? make it harder in order time to? make it harder in order to protect the family unit? bob before that was william to give harry a right royal slap. so you injury .

welcome back to the people's hour, welcome back to the people's hour , which i am taking your hour, which i am taking your video calls in the company of broadcast wing and fleet street legend the pele of the papers mike porky parry. and let me say that we've been trying connect with a very good friend of michela and unfortunately that's a bit of a technical problem. but we're very keen to get michela back on a future show. so thanks for bearing with us. michela we miss you tonight. not perhaps the biggest revelation from prince harry's forthcoming

new spare is that his new book, spare is that his brother, william physically struck him, breaking chain and causing him to fall to the floor via a bowl of all things . was via a bowl of all things. was this a step too far from william or he right to give the entitled and harry a bit of a slap? or he right to give the entitled and harry a bit of a slap ? isn't and harry a bit of a slap? isn't that what brothers do? let's speak to robyn instead of ben's . hi, robyn . speak to robyn instead of ben's . hi, robyn. hi speak to robyn instead of ben's . hi, robyn . hi good evening, . hi, robyn. hi good evening, mark. how are you? i'm very well. great to have you back on the show you live in st albans roman times brothers would have sorted this out with a bit of don't you think that william was sorted this out with a bit of within his rights to rough his brother up a little bit ? oh, brother up a little bit? oh, absolutely . i brother up a little bit? oh, absolutely. i think it's brother up a little bit? oh, absolutely . i think it's quite absolutely. i think it's quite hilarious if you think about it, both of them were in the military , you know, harry's military, you know, harry's harry's supposedly been on the front line fighting the taliban . and

front line fighting the taliban. and his brother onto a dog bowl and having his chain broke. and he's hardly a big a big story amongst brothers. so it all seems to be much about nothing like poor old harry has had a bad week. much about nothing like poor old harry has had a bad week . yeah, harry has had a bad week. yeah, he's had a shocker , hasn't he? he's had a shocker, hasn't he? but it doesn't . robyn, i don't but it doesn't. robyn, i don't think i'd fancy my chances in a showdown with in a dark alley and obviously i don't think either of us will advocate violence but as i said, you know it to me from this anecdote like william has just roughed him up a bit . my brother's done that a bit. my brother's done that with me . perhaps i've attempted with me. perhaps i've attempted vice and i think the real crime here is not what william did , here is not what william did, but that harry's gone public with it . oh, no, absolutely. but with it. oh, no, absolutely. but but i think actually, if you if you go back to this whole thing , my opinion, harry chose to marry for love is a bit of an anathema . the royal family anathema. the royal family that's not normally they do. and

think the royal family clearly didn't take to this and clearly said things about harry's wife that i think any of us would go out and defend their wives girlfriends, daughters, etcetera. so i kind of have a little bit sympathy for him and i understand why he's writing the book and why he's doing what he does because, you know, he's in need of a lot of money, probably a bit more now to protect even further against the taliban . so i, i kind of get why taliban. so i, i kind of get why it happened. let's bring andrew essex, if we can do stay there, robin , and let's see what andrew robin, and let's see what andrew thinks about this . andrew one of thinks about this. andrew one of the issues is about the future , the issues is about the future, their relationship, what it appears to be . or wouldn't you appears to be. or wouldn't you say ? absolutely. and obviously, say? absolutely. and obviously, you know, part of the you know, the monarchy in this country. and i feel actually, harry makes an absolute disgrace and they should be completely got rid of

the monarchy . i mean, the way the monarchy. i mean, the way that treated everyone a queen, she was a real role model and boys harry being so self—centred . you know people had disputes in the family. . you know people had disputes in the family . they don't in the family. they don't necessarily need to arie if a student is annoyed i don't stop telling the manager of my organisation that this they did this they did that. i just let it go. harry needs to grow up. i'm 40 this year and i'm at what's going to happen in the future. i split up with my partner years ago. i didn't like that particular person off in pubuc that particular person off in public you know the way in which he's done that is to coin money, to make money on a media. and to be honest, i've had enough. there's going on in the world. and, you know, i'm sorry, i i'm very much a william and kate , i very much a william and kate, i have really embraced role and william actually is more admirable and, more of a role

model. harry is much about me, me, me , and personally i do want me, me, and personally i do want him at the king king celebration coming up later this year. i, i really don't like him at all. i'm sorry . andrew. andrew, i'm sorry. andrew. andrew, before i come to mike porky parry. you're very critical of harry and does that make you a terrible racist ? i don't think terrible racist? i don't think so. i work with students from multiple countries fights . you multiple countries fights. you know, i've worked in the higher education now over 11 years. i i have a different opinion of megan because of the way is i'm compared to kate how she has embraced her role . i know it's embraced her role. i know it's just how how is her demeanour ? just how how is her demeanour? you know, i have friends that are international all time this morning that she meets up with a former student who was asking former student who was asking for my advice who . she happens for my advice who. she happens to be from greece. so no i'm not

racist or anything like that. i don't see why she is a particularly a royal. i see catherine as a modern diana too. right | catherine as a modern diana too. right i think you're right. and she's even got diana's ring. andrew you'll have noticed the hint of irony. andrew you'll have noticed the hint of irony . my andrew you'll have noticed the hint of irony. my tongue was in my cheek when i asked you if you were racist . because, mike, were racist. because, mike, paul were racist. because, mike, paul, keep harry. let's bring mike into this as well as rob . mike into this as well as rob. this is one problem you've got is that if you to criticise this couple, you somehow attacking meghan markle and her skin colour and that's the problem the you know in some one is afraid to speak out against people for their bad behaviour because get a slur . well i think because get a slur. well i think that when a long time ago to be honest i mean initially what they seem to have forgotten is we spen t £35 they seem to have forgotten is we spent £35 million of taxpayers money on the wedding. and the wedding was seen as the greatest moment in the history of the royal family because a woman of colour actually joined

the royal family and everybody was absolutely delighted and. you know, diversity been proven. michael your friends at the daily mail , michael your friends at the daily mail, one of the headlines around , the time of the wedding around, the time of the wedding was you wonderfully and magically diverse . new wedding. magically diverse. new wedding. exactly. that's it. that's what i'm saying. now, andrew your last guest who was on here says he's only know it was nick robinson . andrew. so this is robinson. andrew. so this is this is andrew. now all been previous. okay now, andrew, you said you're nearly 40. i want people to remember that. actually, harry is nearly 40. right we forget that he's not a young kid anymore. he's not, you know, in his early twenties, he's not still suffering. the ten terrible trauma of what he went through when his mother died. he's a grown up grown man now. it's obvious that he's been carrying this grudge about pain. the sack and son, all the spare for a long time. and i think what happened is he met meghan markle he's a very ambitious and

nobody can criticise anybody for their ambition . and she wanted their ambition. and she wanted to improve her life and she sort of wave improving it by getting together with harry and then got inside the royal family and then decided she had a plan to go another way. that's that was her plan. i think harry went along with all of that far too easily without questioning it. and now he is so spoilt towards his family because somehow over the years he's become more more bitter and cancer turned about being the second brother connery mind. people who are historians me this goes as far as richard the long haul when richard the lionheart went out to the holy city on, the crusades. oh, john. the guy who tried to put down a robin of sherwood tried to take his throne. that's how long it's been going? going inside the royal family the younger brother trying to take over the older

privilege. i tell you, i really enjoyed that history lesson . enjoyed that history lesson. schama hotel . enjoyed that history lesson. schama hotel. i'm going to bring robert in one second, but back to you , andrew. you you've been to you, andrew. you you've been nodding head furiously . yes. nodding head furiously. yes. well, this is my point. you know, he needs ask his age when you you know, when you get to my age , you've had you know, i've age, you've had you know, i've had of the bereavements a few years ago. you know, you have move on and you the fact of what he's doing is being very spoilt , very self—centred. he chose him. i'm making ironic the choice they wanted a life away from the media that they having attention put on them because of the way they're acting . i hate the way they're acting. i hate the way they're acting. i hate the neurodiversity in my role and i'm a neurodiverse person myself and i'm proud that. if i said i didn't want people know that, i wouldn't put that on my twitter or i wouldn't let my boss not i wouldn't but social

by the way, my is this whole self centeredness and that behaviour . self centeredness and that behaviour. william you know , he behaviour. william you know, he will be our future king . the two will be our future king. the two of them need to have like a, a who agreed to make up or grow up or you know, to make it for everyone making that to and just be done with them . amen to that. be done with them. amen to that. let's bring robin back in as well. let's have mike. let's have robin and let's have wonderful andrew believe it's what young people call a throuple i'm in a throuple now. yeah.i throuple i'm in a throuple now. yeah. i never love which i don't know who i'm going to jump on first. but listen, robin, can we talk about the role of king charles? because i understand that your i'm told you have a very beautiful and talented daughter. so if you had to straighten her out , would you straighten her out, would you would you be talking would it be tough love for william harry if you were charles, what should he

do? because in ways he's the boss. absolutely. the thing is, though, right . you've got very though, right. you've got very in a family . though, right. you've got very in a family. if my family were going public in the press on every television screen , the every television screen, the world giving their on me , i world giving their on me, i think i might want to actually back and give my opinions . so back and give my opinions. so i think that harry should have a forum to do that because i think that if you look at the media, pretty much every medium outlet has a royal correspondent and that correspondent pretty much is plays to that place of the game with the with royalty and puts in the papers what they want to be put in the paper. no no that's not right that's not really my story. what do you when do you ever see a royal correspondent actually say something derogatory about the royal family? because lose their

job. i know harry's the right to fight back and say i'm supporting him. i'm just i think he has the right to fight back for two decades of news pages in fleet street, where every prince charles was condemned for the way that he treated wife, diana condemned for having an affair with camilla . he was i mean, you with camilla. he was i mean, you say that fleet street and the media don't criticise the royal family like no going on forever. not those vanilla idiots on television radio. been going on forever. on the sun. the royal family. the problem with harry is it seems to me like about four, five or six years ago, somebody smacked him in the face with a punch, you sort made money. so he got it . so you've money. so he got it. so you've got a bit day. he's on then, you know, he got few ideas in his head about how could improve his life by living in a £16 million home in montecito, you know. and he's now wondering around, in my

view, in a daze talking the most honourable nonsense . but it's honourable nonsense. but it's not just nonsense . it's not just nonsense. it's dangerous. and he put the whole of the british army , the whole of the british army, the whole of the british army, the whole of the british military under threat by this nonsense about how many people he killed in afghanistan. he's he's not pulling his punches, but robin's not it. a brilliant debate. my thanks to the excellent robin not it. a brilliant debate. my and chaps. we'll see you very soon. but next up at nine, my opinion monologue, i am going for it. tonight's the siren voices seeking those failed and ruinous lockdowns all back . just ruinous lockdowns all back. just say no . but next up in the say no. but next up in the people's hour, we're going out with a bang. should it be harder to get divorced ? see you in to get divorced? see you in a few .

welcome back to the final part , welcome back to the final part, the people's hour. with me, mark dowland. don't forget, at nine. it's all of your elements of mark dolan tonight, the big opinion monologue, the take at ten, the panel, the papers and so much more and the papers by way at ten, 20, 10 minutes earlier than everyone else. but let's get to our final story in the people's hour. monday is an unwelcome red letter day in the calendar. it's divorce day in which the greatest number of couples decide to go their separate ways . but with divorce separate ways. but with divorce rates growing , with the rates growing, with the resulting impact on the individuals involved and of course, in particular their children, should we look again at the law this to preserve family values and to give relation chips a chance of succeeding should it be more difficult to get divorced? let us to francis in. i ought to point out that francis is married to his dog chaos. hi,

francis . hi, married to his dog chaos. hi, francis. hi, mark. very happy new year to you and. to mike, porky parry is we've been home with him as well as you son in last year. but council has had a good christmas and a good new year and we're certainly not getting divorced well. i'm pleased to . hear what do you but pleased to. hear what do you but more seriously , you know at this more seriously, you know at this time of the year the solicitors are out touting to business as they always do of the christmas penod they always do of the christmas period does bring stresses and strains but my advocacy is that although those that you know blame legislation which i think is helpful in those it allows for less contentious divorces , for less contentious divorces, maybe cheaper divorce is that's not really a recipe for taking

life forward for family units . life forward for family units. my concern not enough attention actually being paid to reconciliation . and to trying to reconciliation. and to trying to look family units because the costs not only to families but also the state and terms of the numbers of one parent families that then result and the children are immense and we really can't overlook that . so really can't overlook that. so my feeling is we've really got to work harder at reconciliation, whether through church , whether that's through church, whether that's through other organisations , and just other organisations, and just see see marriage as sort of a sort of well we'll get in and

have a bit of fun and then we'll get out again and there'll be consequences to anybody i just don't understand, you know, i'm a hypocrite because i'm six years separated from sadly a very damaged lady as to mental physical health. but i've not sought to divorce the why because i could do a quickie that would not be a problem, but because i'm worried about the impact on admittedly now an aduu impact on admittedly now an adult son because it would be an impact on him and also worried about the impact on her because i don't want her making her illness worse through naked hatred of me . fine she might hatred of me. fine she might have naked hatred. i can put up with that. i don't talk to erin these days like since 2016 so let's crack on let's be positive

here i think lots of people these news stories are all framed in the negative lists as are targeting for business. so let them off because they're charging for business because this is hours of this. charging for business because this is hours of this . so i'm this is hours of this. so i'm all, you know, slow going not slowing down divorce because, you know, the thing is to have to irreconcilable sides in a family . well, i think it's family. well, i think it's i think it's very, very creditable that you've your ex—partner and you're not pushing for divorce and. it says a lot about you. i've got to say, frances, let's speak to mikayla in elgin , speak to mikayla in elgin, scotland. we had trouble connecting with mikayla earlier, but she's back on her phone. mikayla, i believe that you're happily single. do you think ? it happily single. do you think? it should be harder to get divorced . i think it should get easier.

oh no. now, why did you say that mikayla ? well, i think the trend mikayla? well, i think the trend is far more towards cohabiting these days and it's says it's increased by 144% during 1996 to 2021. and i think i agree that there needs to be more support , there needs to be more support, but whether it's marriage break down or cohabitation break, as you rightly . first of all, a lot you rightly. first of all, a lot of people like, they're failure . when that happens, there's an impact on them. and also as you've said on the children it's immeasurable what happens in some cases , the children, they some cases, the children, they carry it for the rest their lives. if there are children. so

i think there needs to be whole new thought process about support and how to make when breakdown can happen, how to make it far more sensitive, caring and compassionate to all those involved that is the only way. and that includes the children because often the children because often the children can be deeply affected with aki in send you know what's the trauma of the breakdown itself when it's absolutely you know broken down so i think i wish i wish whole of . and of the wish i wish whole of. and of the social and the law can sit down and really think about this a far more compassionate way . well far more compassionate way. well i think compassion is a compelling word. michael, let's bnngin

compelling word. michael, let's bring in and let's also let's hang on, if we can, to michaela andindeed hang on, if we can, to michaela and indeed to francis as well. my book, power . get the last my book, power. get the last word on this. yeah look, divorce is , one thing. what i really is, one thing. what i really care about is the family unit. we all know that the nuclear family, mum, dad, children , all family, mum, dad, children, all living under the same roof is the safest way to have a civilised and society . okay. 80% civilised and society. okay. 80% of people who get into trouble and end up in jail come from where they have not been to parent and usually no father, no male. rodel sorry. male model roe . okay. yeah, that's got to roe. okay. yeah, that's got to be corrected the government have got to do it through . tax got to do it through. tax benefits to being married. hey, man, there you go. incentive family values. mike, you smashed it tonight. do come back and see us soon. my thanks to all of my fantastic . it's been a great fantastic. it's been a great debate if you'd like to be part of the people's hour. drop me a

line mark at gb news dot uk. coming the next big 2 hours of martin dolan tonight and we kick off with my big opinion monologue. don't go anywhere .

it's 9:00 on mark dolan tonight . in my big opinion, the crisis is no justified action for more ruinous and failed covid measures . as the siren voices measures. as the siren voices call for masks and work from grow louder, we must draw a line under these wildly discredited measures just. say no. we've got the papers. at the earlier time of 20, right through until 11:00. that's 10 minutes earlier than else. and we will analysis from britain's longest serving

political editor , nigel nelson political editor, nigel nelson in the big question as more and more sex toys hit the high street, we'll be asking do you want to see sex toys on supermarket shelves ? and in the supermarket shelves? and in the news agenda with my panel, as millennials reveal, they dread turning 30. is it time for young people to grow up ? also, should people to grow up? also, should companies be more generous to their staff? plus as people pay to freeze their is their life death? would you freeze a relative? let me know. market lots to get through a big 2 hours and that big opinion is on its way but first the big man himself , its way but first the big man himself, karen armstrong . hello. himself, karen armstrong. hello. i'm alan armstrong in the gb newsroom and let's get you up to date with all the day's top stories. the prime minister talks with health experts to tackle the nhs crisis as highly valuable. according to downing street. rishi sunak met health

leaders to discuss critical challenges in the nhs , which challenges in the nhs, which senior doctors believe is on a knife edge. the health secretary, steve barclay, says at least two innovative solutions have been identified to tackle some of the challenges facing the and chief facing the sector and chief executive of the day lewis pharmacy group j. patel says the talks work instructive. the session with a small group of us have lots of inside sense of what the problems really are out there. balance between pharmacy and general practise and some great description of what the core issues are out there on the ground. the pm was very receptive to what we discussed and we explained the issues and the would be swiftly moved on to looking at options we could put into place to be able to rapidly see if we can alleviate of those challenges. police searching for missing couple on their baby have released a cctv image believed to be that of the mother. some 200 miles from they were last seen. ms. martin gordon and their child have been missing since their vehicle broke down nearjunction four of broke down near junction four of

the m61 thursday. that's near bolton. greater manchester police appealing for the mother. constance smart and to make contact and, seek medical assistance . ukraine's president assistance. ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy says russia's call for a ceasefire had been deceptive, adding shells have hit the eastern city of bac mount where this resident has described the damage who spent the whole our town used to be so beautiful . there were be so beautiful. there were roses everywhere , flowers. it roses everywhere, flowers. it was clean . everything was kept was clean. everything was kept in order . well, russian shelling in order. well, russian shelling has continued in ukraine in violation of the self—declared ceasefire for orthodox christmas, which has now ended kyiv immediately dismissed the proposal as propaganda and a cynical trap . the kremlin, cynical trap. the kremlin, though, claims its troops only fired in retaliation to attacks from ukrainian forces. fired in retaliation to attacks from ukrainian forces . the from ukrainian forces. the foreign secretary has condemned execution of two demonstrators.

james cleverly , the hangings james cleverly, the hangings abhorrent and iran to immediately end the violence against its own people . iran against its own people. iran executed the two men for allegedly killing a member of the security forces during nationwide protests following the death of the 22 year old kurdish iranian mussa khamenei last september. kurdish iranian mussa khamenei last september . prince kurdish iranian mussa khamenei last september. prince harry claims he was not the real man at his brother's wedding . in at his brother's wedding. in more leaked excerpts from his memoir, the duke of sussex reportedly says the role was filmed by prince william's too friends, referring back to his military days. he added that , he military days. he added that, he killed 25 taliban fighters , a killed 25 taliban fighters, a claim which has been criticised by both the british army and the. and flood warnings are in place across and wales as heavy downpours are set to hit the uk overnight. there are 27 flood warnings in place for england, with eight warnings in place for wales and the scottish environment protection has issued six flood alerts for

scotland . tv and dab+ radio is scotland. tv and dab+ radio is gb news. but now it is back to mark dolan tonight. thanks, aaron. see you at ten. welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, the nhs crisis is no justified reason for more ruinous covid as the siren for masks and work from grow louder, we must a line under these wildly discredited measures just no in the big question as more and more sexed toys hit the high street, we'll be asking . do you want to see be asking. do you want to see sex toys on supermarket shelves 7 sex toys on supermarket shelves ? also, we've got the papers at the earlier time of 1020 right through until that's 10 minutes earlier than every other national broadcaster . and we'll national broadcaster. and we'll be joined for top by britain's

longest serving political edhon longest serving political editor, a good friend of mine nigel nelson, who as speak is currently putting the paper to bed.so currently putting the paper to bed. so he's live at 1020. before that, we'll be heading stateside with the wonderful schofield for more reaction to the fallout from prince harry's forthcoming new book. she is the queen of us showbiz royal and political reporting and she's live . 945. it might take it ten live. 945. it might take it ten former chancellor george osborne now chairman of the british museum , wants to give away museum, wants to give away british in this forthcoming deal with greece to . return precious with greece to. return precious artworks, save from the ravages of war. we've lost our marbles . of war. we've lost our marbles. plus in the news agenda with my panel plus in the news agenda with my panel. as millennials reveal that they dread turning 30. is it time for young people to grow up. also, should companies be more generous to their staff? and does people pay to freeze their bodies? is there life after death? would you like to

have your body frozen just on off chance? or would you freeze own teeth? it would be polite to wait until she's passed . wait until she's passed. reacting to those stories and, many more on my fantastic panel tonight, television personality reality star, commentator, broadcaster, sage , no less. and broadcaster, sage, no less. and quite the clotheshorse as well. it's precious mule . we've also it's precious mule. we've also got incredibly sartorially olympian broadcaster motivational speaker and friend of the show, chris abc . and last of the show, chris abc. and last but not least, the absolute genius of gb news is one of my favourite contributors to this channel writer and research analyst and very, very wearer of analyst and very, very wearer of a dark black. so just james bond, it's rookie assassin and he's licenced to kill . now i he's licenced to kill. now i want to hear from you throughout . the show mark@gbnews.uk no other show on any platform puts as much focus your email

messages. so send them in thick and fast. no one gets cancelled. not on my watch at gbnews.uk. now this program has a rule. sebastian, are you ready ? we sebastian, are you ready? we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it . watch. i just won't have it. especially on a saturday. so there go. big guests , big there go. big guests, big stories, and always big opinions. let's start with . one opinions. let's start with. one as the nhs faces its winter pressures, excessive by its two and a half year focus on one disease, the voices calling for mask stay at home. and in the most extreme cases yet more covid while they grow louder. as usual , all covid while they grow louder. as usual, all about saving covid while they grow louder. as usual , all about saving the covid while they grow louder. as usual, all about saving the nhs . and there's the rub. how much more economic damage can inflict on ourselves and for how much

longer can we? in my view, the wild failed policies of masking lockdowns and endless testing the test and trace system example cost £34 billion. that's more than half the annual budgets with a virus that raged through the. it was a catastrophic waste of time and money. and what about those pathetic pc artists, those clunky bits of kit discarded into and adding to an ever growing mountain of covid related plastic in the sea ? related plastic in the sea? surely we can't repeat the deadly mistake of the past. there's going to be a winter crisis in the nhs every year and if we don't push back these now discredited measures , we never discredited measures, we never will. the problem with the nhs is its organisation , its vast is its organisation, its vast bureaucracy and the fact that it's the biggest in europe which

boast about they boast about how the nhs is the biggest employer in europe, the third biggest employer in the world. that's not a proud boast . that is proof not a proud boast. that is proof that it's wildly inefficient , that it's wildly inefficient, it's bloated , it's too big, it's it's bloated, it's too big, it's too expensive and it must change or . die. too expensive and it must change or. die. asleep the wheel for decades as preventable lifestyle illnesses like type two diabetes have exploded . that is the real have exploded. that is the real reason why we're here not that novel virus wuhan which arrived . in novel virus wuhan which arrived. in measures whether it's masks or work from home orders or social distancing or. work from home orders or social distancing or . those ridiculous distancing or. those ridiculous plastic in shops or arrowe in supermarkets. it's all just a smokescreen . covid theatre and smokescreen. covid theatre and opportunity for politicians and leaders to be seen to do something and to distract you from the truth . the masks is

from the truth. the masks is a in point. they want to cover your faces to their to hear top medics , scientists and prominent medics, scientists and prominent figures seeking more of this folly after we've learned, is to your abuser once again knocking on the bedroom door. just say no. this isn't about covid. the elephant in the room is the nhs itself, which is the real of this pandemic pandemic. itself, which is the real of this pandemic pandemic . that's this pandemic pandemic. that's my view . what's yours? mark my view. what's yours? mark gbnews.uk. i'll get to your opinions shortly , but first opinions shortly, but first let's get the views of . my let's get the views of. my amazing panel olympian broadcast star and good friend of the show, chris awaab ishak, television personality and broadcaster, precious mule and top writer , research analyst, top writer, research analyst, rookie assassin, precious mule .

rookie assassin, precious mule. let's start with you. should have these measures to save the nhs . i have these measures to save the nhs. i don't think the measures they're going to bring back in place effective. i don't think having these plastic things in of you in front of somebody at a restaurant or a store makes sense to me because it doesn't make any difference whatsoever . make any difference whatsoever. if you're going to get sick, you're going to get sick. think it should be a choice if you want to wear a mask. but i don't think anything should be mandatory. i feel like we all have a choice as adults , we can have a choice as adults, we can actually make that decision for ourselves. i mean, chris could see, what do you think? would you accept more measures given the fact that the scenes were currently watching in nhs hospitals or increasingly distressing ? i think we've seen, distressing? i think we've seen, we've been there, we've done that and i don't think it worked as officials were saying . what as officials were saying. what is clear is that the nhs was of its time and for its time worked very, very well. but what he bought now is not not working .

bought now is not not working. we need to rethink and replace it. if were thinking of a health care system , you wouldn't . no care system, you wouldn't. no country in the world would. the nhs, as it is today for the people of today above my pay grade to think about how we do. we presented but we obviously do need to be presented . but when need to be presented. but when it comes to things like the masks, i mean, i was a soldier and we used to do something called mbc, a nuclear biological , chemical warfare training. and we have a very complicated mos with things on the side which are cleaner to filter the air etc, etc. and make sure that no part got through. well, most and put in one of those plastic mask and go the sea chamber, gas, gas , gas. you'd be out in 2 seconds. they quite clearly didn't work. it's much more about virtue signalling much about virtue signalling much about controlling the population, much more about uniformity . oh, we've there uniformity. oh, we've there we've done that. hopefully we never go back to that sort of

thing again. yeah, hopefully however, keep a sun. a recent poll suggested the public would support further covid measures if it meant easing pressure on the nhs and i agree very much with what chris has said about mask . perhaps these measures , if mask. perhaps these measures, if not decisive, might save some lives and might reduce some pressure the nhs. so even if the sort of cost benefit analysis is marginal , if it's 1% better, marginal, if it's1% better, then perhaps we should do it. well, i think as you said it's all about the cost benefit analysis. unfortunately with , analysis. unfortunately with, the covid 19 pandemic, those kind of examinations were absent . there was an understandably our government officials , our government officials, leading policy makers. our government officials, leading policy makers . they leading policy makers. they focussed on the virus, but not that exceptional focus on the coronavirus meant that they didn't see the possible side of those strict rules that they put

in place and especially the covid 19 related lockdowns . and covid 19 related lockdowns. and you can see that you can now that we have exten massive waiting lists for the nhs as well running into millions of our fellow citizens. i think that what need to do, we need to look at the long term future of the nhs, the way it's currently structured and organised is not fit for purpose, especially for an ageing society such as ours. now of course , can talk about now of course, can talk about ways to generate funding , but i ways to generate funding, but i think we have to actually look at how the organisation is working, how it's internally and how waste is within the how much waste is within the organisation . there are many organisation. there are many roles within the nhs , middle roles within the nhs, middle level managerial roles. i have to question much benefit they're bringing to the table when it comes to improving health related outcomes in our country . and i think that more generally when we're talking about health in our country. we need to look at preventative. how do we create a more resilient population which is

healthier. there have been numerous studies which show that with obesity capital of western europe that continue, that's not sustainable . so what we need to sustainable. so what we need to do, we need to look how we can foster a greater of fitness in the wider population and that can help to reduce stress . a can help to reduce stress. a publicly funded health care service in the longer term. not too. people disagree with the idea that you have free health care at the point of need. i don't want to live in a country. i don't think my panel wants to in a country where if you break your leg, you've got for to reach credit card. i don't want the american. but later in the show, during the papers, i'll be asking my panel one of asking my panel whether one of the problems with nhs is the big problems with the nhs is that founded on effectively that it's founded on effectively socialist model . is that the socialist model. is that the problem should it run more problem should it be run more like a business without say privatising we'll come to that shortly. but what are your views market coming with the news that 20 somethings reveal dreading turning 30? that's right. young people are afraid of turning 30.

is it time for to simply grow up? also should companies be more generous to their staff and as people pay to freeze their bodies , is there life after bodies, is there life after death ? but next up, let me you death? but next up, let me you that adult devices are appearing in the high streets okay all sorts of unusual vibrating bits and bobs. so here's my question in the big question do you want to see sex toys on supermarket shelves ? that's .

next well, a big reaction to my big opinion monologue, the highlights of my show every night is when i receive email. so thank you. hundreds coming in, mark gbnews.uk, always brilliantly and always a fascinating read. and i it when we agree. i love it when we don't agree. so do get those

emails in this from margareta who says hi mark. i came to this country 1988 to change is huge . country 1988 to change is huge. it's so broken now it's finally gone. they need sack all of the useless admin , strip it right useless admin, strip it right back and start again and start saving life eves. also we should all pay a little towards it , all pay a little towards it, appointments etc. i'm norway, says margareta . and we do that says margareta. and we do that and our health system is great. what's happening in the uk is embarrassing, dangerous. wake up britain , says margareta. thank britain, says margareta. thank you so much . what a lovely you so much. what a lovely country. norway is . i've done country. norway is. i've done some comedy gigs in steve anger. what a town, an oil town and great crowds as well. not as good as this crowd. however, how about david, who says, mark, we've bonkers we can't we've gone bonkers and we can't continue the answer should be common sense fact and understanding. i agree the nhs needs change. more money won't help as it just pays more management that we do not require asia. i hope i pronounce that right asia. and if not

email me at and correct me asia is in kent and she says hi mark everything in this country back to a broken benefits system the amounts of money being fraudulently obtained by people on benefits is a big destroyer of nhs . if half of those of our nhs. if half of those malingering layabouts got off their backsides and paid tax the nhs which is broken , could nhs which is broken, could easily be . fixed and there you easily be. fixed and there you go. well, look, i could. i could read your emails all day long. how about this finally from chris hi mark they the cost of lockdown they had the numbers from bristol university it was a choice the nhs is an easy fix we're told it costs choice the nhs is an easy fix we're told it cost s £10,000 per we're told it costs £10,000 per person. give me the money because i can get bupa with a gp for £110 a month at 57. chris thank for that. i do think there's a worry now that the nhs in time will become like the bbc , a service that everyone's got to pay for, but one only a portion of people actually use.

it's time now for this . yes, it's time now for this. yes, it's it's time now for this. yes, wsfime it's time now for this. yes, it's time for the big question and in which we tackle a major news of the day. now, since 2019, the high street chemist boots began stocking a range sex toys, which you can find nestled between the cold kills and bunion plasters. now, as more and more high street retailers stock, the adult devices, we're asking , do stock, the adult devices, we're asking, do you want to stock, the adult devices, we're asking , do you want to see sex asking, do you want to see sex toys on supermarket shelves ? toys on supermarket shelves? joining me to discuss this is wellness content creator venus o'hara and television commentator , a reality star and commentator, a reality star and all round legend narinder kaur nguyen.the all round legend narinder kaur nguyen. the great to see you. let start with venus o'hara . let start with venus o'hara. venus, the public don't want to see these devices when they're buying headache pills or tights . well, i agree, because an can cure headache . so the oldest

cure headache. so the oldest excuse is now has been debunked . i think it's actually a good thing i understand this. not everyone is on board with it. but interestingly, i live spain and one day i went i was in a hardware store. i wanted to buy a bikini trimmer and in the same aisle i found sex toys and i found it. i it was incredible. so i a real instagram and so i made a real instagram and to my lots of sex shops were actually horrified by it because they want to be the only places that stop these devices but i think for me not everyone feels comfortable and buying a sex toy in a sex shop for also buying it onune in a sex shop for also buying it online be of another risk because they tend be quite expensive they're not cheap especially rechargeable . so especially the rechargeable. so i think it's a good thing to have them more available . and have them more available. and one have to out is one thing i have to point out is that you see these devices, that when you see these devices, you might not understand that they look and vulgar. the they don't look and vulgar. the packaging is quite and packaging is quite elegant and they look like the very they just look like the very similar oils. this is similar facial oils. this is a massage . there are other devices massage. there are other devices that look similar to put on sex toys.i that look similar to put on sex

toys. i don't think they look kind of narinder kaur do you want to see sex toys on supermarket shelves ? well, as supermarket shelves? well, as a mother to a teenage daughter, no repulsed that . they have sex repulsed that. they have sex toys where there are mine is and they do look repulsive . look they do look repulsive. look that penis shaped . i think it's that penis shaped. i think it's disgusting . honestly, i was disgusting. honestly, i was onune disgusting. honestly, i was online on a famous fashion onune online on a famous fashion online website . i am looking for online website. i am looking for clothes with my daughter and there you had sex toys . i there you had sex toys. i thought they were head massages at first. and then i realised when i zoomed in, it was a penis shape sex toy. i just think it's terrible to have that where there's minors. how can you that what do you think how would you respond to that, venus? why can't we have a dedicated area in a shop or indeed special shops? these devices in case not only young people see them but even pick one up. well the thing is when i was growing up going to buy sweets in the in the newsagent they had all sorts of

magazines and form is much more recognisable as a ball than a plastic like this, which is just not not scandalous if you look at that. i mean and people not going to think it looks like a penis. actually, many most toys do not look like penises in this day and age. i have a spare room with 750 toys that i have accumulated last ten accumulated in the last ten years. and is my job. and years. and this is my job. and i can tell you i only have one or two, baby. most of them look like beautiful objects. like this like paperweight, this looks like a paperweight, you know, so they don't look like sex toys. and the image you've shown there, there's only two that are phallic. some them are woman shapes and others a kind of shape that looks like an at the moment. so i don't think if someone picks it up, say it's for a massage, you know , i don't for a massage, you know, i don't think i think there is there are ways of talking about these things that are could be things that are that could be age appropriate. yeah. not age appropriate or they're age appropriate or they're not age appropriate or they're not age appropriate . yeah i've got a 16 appropriate. yeah i've got a 16 year old daughter and i think she wouldn't even know and i

wouldn't even if she asked about that. it'sjust, wouldn't even if she asked about that. it's just, it's not so much pressure the whole sex thing and the whole oh we must enjoy must be great. enjoy sex and sex must be great. and must have great sex. and you must have a great sex. i'm pretty for teenagers. no. and children don't need to know about this. there's a place for this online is great this i think online is great special are great actually special are great and actually back your about supermarket back to your about supermarket selling cheaper you're just taking business from taking business away from the sex the sex shops actually the supermarkets have a monopoly on everything so but more than anything children don't need to have pressure especially teenage girls is everything . girls that sex is everything. and do you think that these devices , a virus will come back devices, a virus will come back to you in a moment? do you think these devices are bad for society ? i do think the practise society? i do think the practise well, they are if they're on display at supermarkets where there's children. yes, because they don't need that pressure. their children , there's their children, there's children. they're going to ask questions and do look back. questions and they do look back. and know of don't, and i know all of them don't, but just don't think that this but i just don't think that this is the. no, i think they all bad. yes. there's a pressure on sex constantly this . sex be

sex constantly this. sex must be great you have the or great and you must have the or you we don't that pressure you don't we don't that pressure . i'll let you come back to that. venus by the way venus, you've got 750 sex toys in your bedroom . i'm amazed you get bedroom. i'm amazed you get anything done in my spare. and my room is empty. but i had to get an apartment with two to bedrooms. one for the actual sex toys , just because it's like toys, just because it's like a mobile toy store in my shops. basically they have wake you up there. what did they ever wake you up ? oh, no, no, no but you up? oh, no, no, no but they're all sex toys that have a alarms, by the way. so there are if you want that, do you want to be woken up with a vibration, which might be nice having a sound then some people that opfion sound then some people that option exists . but sound then some people that option exists. but i think i think these doctors quite beautiful but i think we'll at them and think oh what is that? and most of them are not penis shaped because most women do need external stimulation . so need external stimulation. so from something like this is going work better than going to work better than something like

something that looks like a phallus. and i remember growing up this and newsagents up to see this and newsagents and not for me as much, but most also for now and children are having access lots of from a very young age . i think that's very young age. i think that's what we're where we should be focusing our attention on the smartphones and the type of content that minus the get it access to i think that's much worse than an object like this which is not so relatable not as relatable a human body narinder kaunl relatable a human body narinder kaur. i agree we don't need to in supermarkets . okay i can in supermarkets. okay i can i can i also ask you venus, what do you think about these devices in relation to husbands and wives, boyfriends , girlfriends, wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, girlfriends, girlfriends boyfriends, boyfriends? surely it dilutes a relationship i just it dilutes a relationship i just i think that's a common misconception . but the truth is misconception. but the truth is that many women don't reach and through intercourse it's own with a sense . sorry, i didn't. i with a sense. sorry, i didn't. i don't mean to brag, but all

these women get very long time and we've never needed a sex toy. but i talked about i think it's about variety and you can actually it's really good to change and most sexual change it up and most sexual encounters a formula encounters follow a formula which kim king's career so dress optional oral sex penetration male over and if want to kind of spice it up a little bit kind of it's nice to use a toy from time to time. i'm right when i was in my last relationship and i was testing male sex, i kind of enjoyed watching my partner indulge while i just sat back and took and just observed. i think so i think they are think it's so i think they are arrival to your real human partner is not a tool i think it's like do you like pizza or chocolate cake? you can at different times or maybe you want have them together. i want to have them together. i think one the other think it's one or the other inoffensive conversations, exceptions over the exceptions i've heard over the years job. i why you got years in my job. i why you got that. of female friends that. and of female friends telling i a boyfriend , i telling me i have a boyfriend, i don't that. whereas i don't need that. whereas i think it's i think masturbation is a very healthy thing. that's that's opinion. that's that's my opinion. that's what the i'm but i'm

the industry i'm from. but i'm just everyone agrees just i'm not everyone agrees that. but i would i would challenge think good to challenge i think it's good to connect body boost your connect with body boost your self—esteem the question self—esteem asking the question is do children need to see in supermarket and then that in answer to that no they don't. but i think we're not going to recognise what it is. and you know, children seeing things from a very young age which are recognisable on their recognisable like on their smartphones, nothing that's way worse or or images. when i was growing up going to tweets and seeing these magazines, which felt very strange , me and when i felt very strange, me and when i was staying at a friend's, when i was very, very young and i and she showed me her dad's and stash. this video of the eighties, it was all was so shocked. i can imagine what it must be like for children now being exposed to so much and explicit material. i don't think a plastic toy is the same. i really don't. and i think i'm talking about sexuality is a healthy thing. i think we should be talking about it with teenagers in a healthy way and i know what to expect now . i mean,

know what to expect now. i mean, what they're expecting now is they're saying. and then some people may be reflecting what they on a phone, which is they see on a phone, which is how should be. this is just pressure sex toys or just added pressure. everything is sex . pressure. everything is sex. sex. we don't want children don't . it took down their don't. it took down their throats literally . we don't need throats literally. we don't need that parent i'm not this that as a parent i'm not this and on strong visual image and on that strong visual image ladies look what i in the gb news studio . oh my goodness . news studio. oh my goodness. well, you would believe this right i finally found this can i tell you i found this in dan wootton dressing room. he's back on monday . no wootton dressing room. he's back on monday. no spin, no bias, no censorship , it's airbrush censorship, it's airbrush obvious school and i was disappointed. you neither. at least i got cancelled but distance. now you can control and toys with through an app not that's kind of become quite popular since lockdown so there's many ways to interact and sex toys are not there i'm just going to buy of these

glasses so listen how can people find out more what you do venus, before you go , my instagram is before you go, my instagram is to venus ohara and my website . to venus ohara and my website. venus o'hara .org . loved our venus o'hara .org. loved our conversation. venus fascinating stuff. thanks for joining conversation. venus fascinating stuff. thanks forjoining us. the brilliant as well loved our chat. the brilliant as well loved our chat . you can borrow my brush chat. you can borrow my brush any time like lots more to get through before 11:00. you know the golden rule of this show we don't do boring not on my watch. i just won't have it. what do you of the barnet? i think i'm smart for first time ever i'm on a poll on twitter. we you the great british public should supermarkets be selling sex toys 7 supermarkets be selling sex toys ? just over 78% say no. 22% say yes. coming out the papers at 1030 with full panel reaction, but a sneak peak at 1020 with the sunday mirrors. nigel nelson. he might take a ten. i'll be dealing with former chancellor george osborne how he lost his marbles he wants to hand back british treasure and

i'll be telling you all about that at ten. i won't be pulling my but next as 20 somethings reveal dread turning 30 is it time for people to grow up it's usually .

and i'm delighted to say we're having huge success with people's hour because every friday and saturday, this show is now 3 hours long, from eight till seven. and every i take your video calls . would you like your video calls. would you like to be a star on the show? because i'd like to get to know you better. i love your emails, but i'd love to see you and i'd love to put you on telly. so if you'd like to be in the people's houn you'd like to be in the people's hour, drop me a line mark at gbnews.uk and just put people's our and team will be our in the and my team will be in touch. according to a survey from charity relate , 83% of from the charity relate, 83% of gen says that people between

gen z says that people between 16 and 24 feel anxious about turning 30 and feel pressure to reach certain life . so it begs reach certain life. so it begs the question now is it time for young people to grow up? let's speak to chris mcebisi , speak to chris mcebisi, broadcaster and inspirational speaken broadcaster and inspirational speaker. very inspiring to me . speaker. very inspiring to me. tv personality and broadcaster , tv personality and broadcaster, mule and writer and research analyst assad. ricky, let start with you. we've got somethings worrying about turning 30. get over yourself. often they're in a difficult environment , though, a difficult environment, though, aren't they? i think even compared to when i was that sort of age, i think in a harsher economic climate. i think house pnces economic climate. i think house prices even in just the last few years has been a bit of a slowing down. but they've increased exponent in recent years. so i think they're in there in a more of a high pressure environment than even i was and i'm 32 and they've got to deal with social media, i think. so they can't get on the

housing ladder, as you mentioned. and i suppose in a way, life feels , you know, way, life just feels, you know, they've bad , as it they've been handed a bad, as it were. no, absolutely . i think were. no, absolutely. i think that a lot of the young people in our country, they may well have aspirations, but they perhaps at the moment perhaps feel that at the moment they're in a increasingly long, dark tunnel and they can't quite see light at the end of it. yeah right. well, precious, you are a young person in your prime. yeah what do you think about how things are for young people? because sort between because i'm sort torn between the that a bit, the fact that they're a bit, from my estimation, slightly entitled and snowflake on the other hand, they're paying exorbitant rents. exactly. meanwhile mum and dad are living rent free a mortgage free house. so you go. i mean, there's so much pressure , obviously, with much pressure, obviously, with the social media aspect of it all. i mean, know, you're all. i mean, you know, you're trying up with all these trying to keep up with all these girls instagram they're girls on instagram and they're trying to portray this of trying to portray this kind of lifestyle . and at the end of the lifestyle. and at the end of the day, you know, you're trying to aspire to things that they don't even remember, social even have. remember, social media society , this thing media and society, this thing where people have all these

luxuries and they it's most of it's fake. so people need to get out of that mindset and, stay in your own lane and kind of progress when you can. i know the pressure of being young and succeeding at everything you do , but then we've also got to take the aspect of maybe you shouldn't married at 25 and shouldn't get married at 25 and have maybe wait have three kids. maybe wait a little and see where your little while and see where your life mean, i did that. life goes. i mean, i did that. i am young. i will always be 25, but i am a older now and i'm married at 25 to somebody who was in new york and i lived there for ten years. so you can imagine the pressure that i was under thinking at 25, i've got to be i've got to be a great wife. i've got to have kids . the wife. i've got to have kids. the pressure really came down on and it was time to go . you know, it it was time to go. you know, it was the end of a relationship, three after three years. so you had a bit of an early midlife crisis . i was had a bit of an early midlife crisis. i was i'm an only child, so i advance very quickly in life. my parents were very like supportive, but they also to me, you know, you've got to progress

and do things at an early age. i mean, i was signed to a model agency at 18 and flew to new york for ten years. i mean, i literally grew up extremely fast. so i'm of just like fast. so i'm kind of just like taking a break and taking it easy a little bit because i really was on accelerating career, trying to figure , you career, trying to figure, you know, being an adult so quickly . and i feel like at 30, yes, we these pressures and we have society tell us to grow up and to be independent but it's not necessarily thing for everyone to do . i don't think being to do. i don't think being married having kids is the be all end of life. do young people have it tougher now? chris i think the challenge that we have today in our multicultural society is the loss of rites of passage . so you know , like the passage. so you know, like the jewish religion has bar mitzvahs when they're 15. we used to the key to the door when 18 and 21 and you'd go out in my day, disco in and all that sort of

stuff. excuse me, disco, plastic . a bit of a boogie. hey, hey hey. yeah. so i could . there you hey. yeah. so i could. there you go out on a roll. so i just think that, you know, the lack of a rites of passage. however for me, the thirties flew, the twenties flew , was in, has twenties flew, was in, has before. i'm 35. yeah. and i think that's one of the challenges. yeah that young people may have is not having task focussed , focus oriented task focussed, focus oriented things to achieve. i was a, i was a sportsman , i was a was a sportsman, i was a husband.i was a sportsman, i was a husband. i was a father. and i was actually getting done. and i can assure you i think when you overdo and you overthink stuff, you actually forget to live. but how was living life happens while you're thinking about other stuff happens. before i knew i was 35, i said that 20 flew by. yeah it did. but maybe if you just took a step back, you actually. who knows ? i was you actually. who knows? i was too busy winning medals or

running to get . to is, but busy running to get. to is, but busy getting on with my life and my career and but for the job, the mental state is different. i feel like when we were growing up, obviously you're a bit older than me but my older than you. i the mental state is that the pressure i mean we have now a different type of pressure mental for the mental state. i think when i was growing up it was there was but the mental state wasn't as as much as now the younger generation deal with like , you know, disorders of all like, you know, disorders of all kinds . yeah. you know, you name kinds. yeah. you know, you name it know. so one thing i think that pops in recent times we've seen for example, materialistic individualism really take root individualism really take root in society and i saw more social bonds have been lost and they've been they've been eroded . so been they've been eroded. so i think that what precious said and i think chris said is basically if you actually focus on yourself , set goals for on yourself, set goals for yourself, don't forget about what people have posted on

instagram . it's not they're instagram. it's not what they're posting actually rooted posting isn't actually rooted in reality with, focus on reality to begin with, focus on highlights of your life. i think more practical goals for more is set practical goals for yourself give yourself that sense direction and that can sense of direction and that can actually increase your wellbeing in the term. i think in the longer term. i think that's a brilliant shot really a brilliant shot from ricky and from . if you're young from precious. if you're young and you're watching ditch that smartphone, it's not doing you any good. coming next with all the papers at 1030 with full panel reaction , a sneak peek at panel reaction, a sneak peek at 1020 , 10 minutes earlier than 1020, 10 minutes earlier than everyone else. and in my take it ten, i'll be dealing former chancellor george osborne who wants to hand back british treasure to climes. i'm not having it. i won't . pulling my having it. i won't. pulling my punches. that's my take. ten at ten. but next all harry and meghan falling out of favour. the united states. we're heading straight to hollywood and the queen of us showbiz , royal and queen of us showbiz, royal and political reporting, kinsey schofield .

it's time now for us news , the it's time now for us news, the queen of us showbiz , royal and queen of us showbiz, royal and political reporting . schofield political reporting. schofield and kinsey, in a world exclusive here is your and me and our viewers . look at the latest clip viewers. look at the latest clip from the tell all prince harry interview on itv tomorrow night. take a look . everyone knows take a look. everyone knows where they were and what they were doing the night my mother died, i cried once at the burial and you know, i go into detail about how strange it was and how actually there was some guilt that i that i felt i think william felt well by walking around outside of kensington palace , a 50,000 bouquets of palace, a 50,000 bouquets of flowers to our mother. and then we were shaking people's hands, smiling i've seen the videos. right? i smiling i've seen the videos. right? i look back. i look back over all and the wet hands. we

were shaking , couldn't were shaking, couldn't understand why their hands were wet, but it was all the tears they were wiping away. everyone thought and felt they knew thought and felt like they knew our and the two closest our mum and the two closest people to her. the two most loved people by her were unable to show any emotion in that moment . well, there you go. moment. well, there you go. quite a mic drop moments at the end of kinsey. let's break that in detail, if we can . first of in detail, if we can. first of all, very mu comments from prince harry about the aftermath , his mum's death and the scenes at the funeral . oh, first of at the funeral. oh, first of all, mark, i would just like to tell you happy new year. and i missed you like deserts, missed the rain . second of all, i would the rain. second of all, i would just say absolute. that's heartbreaking to hear. but i don't think in my years of studying the death of diana, i've never anything about i've never heard anything about anyone telling harry william that they could not mourn that they weren't allowed to cry or that they weren't allowed to

respond to their mother's death. and any single way that they wanted to. i mean, perhaps they were they felt they couldn't because the people around them weren't reacting in that way , weren't reacting in that way, but they were never instructed to behave a certain way. they were never instructed not to cry or to not should not upset over their mother and those smiling faces. you're saying those are sweet little boys that seems like are just trying to be courteous in a very uncomfortable situation . is uncomfortable situation. is history being rewritten once again ? i mean, i think so. it again? i mean, i think so. it looks like the ultimate goal is to make the royal family these villainous characters because harry feels they've done the same to him and meghan which he stated in previous . same to him and meghan which he stated in previous. in this series of interviews, we hear him say they keep making us the villains. so perhaps harry is just trying to shift direction of , you know, that that role but of, you know, that that role but inever

of, you know, that that role but i never have i read that they were told that they had to a certain way after the death of their mother. you've been studying diana's legacy since you were a little girl . you have you were a little girl. you have a globally renowned website, dedicated to royal stories and the memory of diana. it's called to die for daily .com and would you say that harry's being dishonest in this clip clip ? you dishonest in this clip clip? you know, i think that harry's believing what he's saying. i truly do. i think he's he believes what he says. mark, it feels like harry is trying to continue with this blueprint that he thinks or playbook that he thinks his mother left the martin bashir interview the andrew morton book it does feel like he just is continuing these steps or recreating of these moments but you and i both know that at the time of diana's death, she was not a popular people were critical of for her after dodi they wanted her to be home at kensington palace waiting see her boys after

houday. waiting see her boys after holiday . they were cruel about holiday. they were cruel about her towards the end of her life because they were angry that she was pursuing her own things . was pursuing her own things. some of diana's decisions , some some of diana's decisions, some of these decisions she made were not popular . of these decisions she made were not popular. i feel like this myth that we've created of martyr , which, you know, i love martyr, which, you know, i love . but she was obviously damaged and made some mistakes that happened at the time. she took her last mark. i wish that harry would study and learn from her mistakes versus repeat some of the same things that she did in indeed so everyone and felt like they knew our mum and the two closest people to her the two most loved people by her were unable to show any emotion in that moment . comments really. it that moment. comments really. it does. it feels like he's he's lashing out at his inability to grieve and i'm happy that he's in a position now to where he's able to grieve. however wants to

and encourage him to do so as long as he's not being cruel his brother which we've seen throughout these leaked pages of spare you know to comment on his to comment on the fact that he no longer looks like his mother, prince william, to say prince william's no longer resembles his mother. i mean, that's just cruelty and it's unnecessary to. two men lost their mother mark to men and what will william make of the fact that his brother, who is now defining the legacy ? i don't think he's going legacy? i don't think he's going to be very about it, but we won't hear about he's going to continue to fume and grieve in private . this is a loss for him, private. this is a loss for him, too . he's we know that he loved too. he's we know that he loved his little brother and protected him fiercely throughout his entire life . this has got to be entire life. this has got to be this has to be feel like the ultimate betrayal truly , we're ultimate betrayal truly, we're told that harry wanted to retract the book , the queen's retract the book, the queen's

jubilee . did he get cold feet ? jubilee. did he get cold feet? the publication of this book ? the publication of this book? yeah. this is a report from valentine lowe , who has been, valentine lowe, who has been, you know, a very credible source over the last few years. and valentine lowe says that harry did get cold feet after the jubilee it was a combination of him seeing loved and celebrated the queen but also conversations that if you pursue this , you that if you pursue this, you will be cut off and that did scare him. so the publisher apparently walked in one day and said he's pulled it. he's pulled the book, apparently after the death of the everything changed. but well, he have a place within the royal . i do. i don't know. the royal. i do. i don't know. i mean that's a they have got to be very forgiving individuals for that to come to fruition . a for that to come to fruition. a devastating allegation on, the front page of today's daily telegraph, kinsey suggesting that harry hastened the passing of the queen. that's a big act . of the queen. that's a big act. his nation. what's reaction ? i

his nation. what's reaction? i mean, i that if i hope he did not know that she was sick mark because if so that is so did harry and meghan's actions hasten the death of the queen only god knows that answer and i don't know that answer, but i know that it didn't help her and i know that it stressed out through her final years and months. it was she was very disappointed by the situation of the couple falling out of favour in the us because there seemed to be quite deafening silence from . some of the previous harry from. some of the previous harry meghan's supporters. it's not just that, mark. i you're going to know some of these names. jemmy kimmel. jemmy kimmel. been poking fun at harry every single night. this guy harry's releasing all of these these pieces of gossip , and he's pieces of gossip, and he's become a punchline, a skit . the become a punchline, a skit. the two princes, where to fake princes like know doves cry. prince is going at each other in a kitchen . they just did a mock

a kitchen. they just did a mock voiceover of harry talking about that frozen that frostbite incident . so he's become incident. so he's become a punchline here in the states a lot of people that have defended him in the past like don lemon from cnn is being critical of him recently. i do think that the public support is waning here in the states harry is now the lemon you will be glued to this documentary you'll be watching it live . i will i will watching it live. i will i will so that i can talk to you about it. i don't know if it's necessarily something that i'm going to enjoy. no, i've necessarily something that i'm going to enjoy . no, i've got no going to enjoy. no, i've got no doubt you won't. but, kinsey, we can't wait . doubt you won't. but, kinsey, we can't wait. hear your top analysis and we'll see you in a week's time. the queen, us showbiz royal and reporting kinsey schofield missed you too, kinsey schofield missed you too, kinsey as have my many, many viewers i got an email the other day from someone saying, have you moved? kinsey because we organised our evening around when she's on coming up next we've got the papers at exactly

2010 minutes earlier than everyone else but it might take it ten. i'll be dealing with former chancellor george osborne, who wants to return british treasure find more shortly .

it's 10:00 it's10:00 and this is mark tonight's in my take at former chancellor george osborne now chairman of the british museum wants to give away british treasure in this forthcoming deal with greece to return precious artworks saved from the ravages of war. we've our marbles. we've got papers. at the earlier time of 1020, right through until 11:00. and we'll be joined by longest serving political editor nigel nelson in the news agenda with my panel . the news agenda with my panel. companies be more generous to

their staff class as people pay to freeze their bodies. is there life after death lots to get through including take it ten. i'm not pulling my punches, folks. but first, the headlines with aaron armstrong . i'm with aaron armstrong. i'm armstrong in the gb newsroom downing street has described today's talks between nhs leaders and prime minister as highly valuable . rishi sunak met highly valuable. rishi sunak met health experts to discuss critical in the nhs , which critical in the nhs, which senior doctors believe is on a knife edge. the health secretary barclay says at least two innovative solutions have been identified to tackle some of the challenges facing the sector and chief executive of the de lewis pharmacy group j. patel says the talks were constructive . the talks were constructive. the session with it was a small group of us have lots of inside terms of what the problems really are out there a balance between community pharmacy and general practise and some great

description of what the core issues are out there on the ground. the pm was very receptive to . we discussed and receptive to. we discussed and we explained issues and swiftly moved on to looking at options that we could put place to be able to rapidly see if we can alleviate some of those challenges challenges . police challenges challenges. police searching for a missing couple on their baby have released a cctv image believed to be that of the mother some 200 miles from where they were last seen. ms. martin mark gordon and their child have been missing since their vehicle broke down on the m61 near bolton on thursday. greater manchester police are appealing for the mother, constance martin . make contact constance martin. make contact and seek medical assistance . and seek medical assistance. ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy says russia's call for a ceasefire had been discussed adding shells had hit the eastern city of back in ukraine where this resident has been describing the damage . he'll describing the damage. he'll spend the whole hour us to be so beautiful . there were roses beautiful. there were roses everywhere flowers it was clean

everything was kept in order order . well everything was kept in order order. well russian shellings continued in ukraine in violation of a self—declared 36 hour ceasefire. four orthodox christmas, which now ended a kyiv immediately dismissed the proposal as propaganda . the proposal as propaganda. the kremlin, though, claims troops have only fired in retaliation attacks from ukrainian forces . attacks from ukrainian forces. the foreign secretary has condemned iran's execution of two protesters as abhorrent and he has urged the regime to end the violence against its own people. iran the two men for allegedly killing member of the security forces during nationwide demonstrations following the death of the 22 year old kurdish iranian woman, martyr khamenei, last september . human rights groups have described their trial as a sham . prince harry has revealed he only once over the death of . his only once over the death of. his mother, the princess of wales at

her burial. duke sussex added neither he nor his brother william were able to show any emotion as they met mourners and he felt guilt when walking outside kensington palace following his mother's death in 1997. in a clip , harry, the 1997. in a clip, harry, the interview on itv , his memoir, interview on itv, his memoir, harry says everyone knows where they were and what they were doing. the night my mother died . tv online . abc plus radio. . tv online. abc plus radio. this is gb news. now it is back to mark dolan tonight. thanks hour and we'll see you at 11. to mark dolan tonight, it might take a turn. former chancellor george osborne, now chairman of the british museum, wants to give away british treasure. find out more shortly. we've got the papers at 1020. that's 10 minutes earlier than everyone else . and we'll get

everyone else. and we'll get reaction from britain's serving political editor , nigel nelson political editor, nigel nelson in the news agenda with my panel in the news agenda with my panel. should companies be more generous to their staff. plus, as people pay to freeze their bodies, is there life after ? bodies, is there life after? would you freeze your body on the off chance? reacting to those stories and many more are my brilliant panel tonight of tv precious mitchell , olympian my brilliant panel tonight of tv precious mitchell, olympian and broadcaster chris a.b.c. precious mitchell, olympian and broadcaster chris abc. and research analyst ricky assan. lots to come this hour. but first my take . a ten. the former first my take. a ten. the former chancellor george osborne remember him the man behind project fear a man who told us the british economy would implode if we left the european union. well, he's living high on the hog with a seven figure corporate salary . this st paul's corporate salary. this st paul's educated icon of the elite is

the chairman of the british museum, arguably the greatest museum on earth and home to vast swathes of rescued and recovered global treasure without , which global treasure without, which would be lost forever . how would be lost forever. how ironic, therefore, that osborne the architect of austerity should be embarked on a mass giveaway, a car boot sale of the museum's finest artefacts. this week, we're told a deal is in offing to return the treasured marbles to greece . now be clear marbles to greece. now be clear items . like the marbles to greece. now be clear items. like the elgin marbles have only survived war. revolution and environmental disaster crime and pestilence as a result of bold british archaeologists and explorers travelling the world, finding items, repairing them and giving them a permanent home. now we're told marbles are just being loaned to greece, therefore avoiding that we've backed down

in a decades long row about whether these statues should kept. it's a fudge, if you like, or being charitable compromise. but in my view, it a defeat. we blinked first. writing in the city am newspaper on this very subject top, historian tiffany jenkins said, and i quote throughout history , art objects throughout history, art objects have passed across borders . no have passed across borders. no one is suggesting that every italian belongs to italian government. why should we think that the elgin belong to the greek government ? by looking at greek government? by looking at the similarities , differences the similarities, differences between the artefacts from various cultures . the british various cultures. the british museum, where 6 million visitors gaze at the astonishing craftsmanship each for free, is the ideal home how right she is now the great legacy of this country . as with the italians , country. as with the italians, the french and others , is our the french and others, is our tradition of preserve history.

how many other items that we have place on display for the world to enjoy ? must we now world to enjoy? must we now return ? for me, it all ties in return? for me, it all ties in with the woke narrative of feeling guilty about our own history . because all history is history. because all history is of exploration, of discovery of preservation and. we only keep it by keeping evidence of just that. the very concept of this globally renowned museum is about as british as a game of cricket, a pint al or a slab of wensleydale cheese by being on display in the british museum. that's not us stealing or being possessive . other country's possessive. other country's history. the british museum belongs to the world and it is a gift to the world. look at the torching of rare historic sites in mosul by isis. these are acts of barbarism that been prevented by the existence . the british by the existence. the british museum in the past. if this fire

sale continues, you might as well get rid of the place altogether. just get rid of british museum and turn it into a big old tesco's. maybe of those tesco's extra that sell flat screen tellies and kids trousers. what motivates george osborne to concede in this long running battle? i can only guess . do hope it's not self aggrandisement. that would be so of character if . we loan these of character if. we loan these statues back to greece. we'll never get them back again without kind of debate or consent of the people we have needlessly yielded by returning what is by definition, at least in part british treasure, to it pains me to say that this move we've lost our marbles quite literally the only crumbling artefact we should be sending abroad, never to return is this discredited ex chancellor osborne in a glass . i'd queue up osborne in a glass. i'd queue up to see . reacting

to see. reacting to that and all the big stories of the day. my all star panel. i'm delighted to say we've got an olympian abroad caster and motivational speaker chris sack, abc tv personality precious muir and writer and research analyst ricky assan . research analyst ricky assan. let me start with you, ricky . let me start with you, ricky. should we be handing back the elgin marbles ? well, i think elgin marbles? well, i think there's a fairly convincing arguments for both sides. i think one thing that i'd say is that maybe this is opportunity for the uk to shore up its relationship with the eu member state, an important eu member state, an important eu member state in the post—brexit environment . now, of course, you environment. now, of course, you have said that there is so many british individuals who are involved looking after the marbles, preserve having it and the fact that it experienced various forms of trauma. you could that britain done a fine

job of that but have to ultimately say this is where it originated from. we have to see the circumstances under which they ended up in britain and perhaps we can see this as an opportunity to improve our diplomatic relations with a strategically partner strategically important partner in the mediterranean. and that sounds to me like throwing the towel in. are we so not? no such thing, are we so in hock to the eu that we've got to throw them a bone like this? well i mean, we, you know, we're keep what's going to happen. the louvre, send back all of the van, golfs to amsterdam. well, that's a matter louvre. well, matter for the louvre. well, let's the focus on this let's keep the focus on this particular case. i'm making the point that we have to talk how these marbles actually ended up in britain. i think that's something that needs to be discussed. and think that we discussed. and i think that we have to see more generally the wider diplomatic implications of this and what we could what benefits there are to the marbles being returned . greece. marbles being returned. greece. i'll come to the other panellists in a moment. but ricky, we agree on so much, but

i don't think that we should play i don't think that we should play a game of trying to be nice to the eu. we'll never their friendship because we have the temerity leave the bloc. well i agree slightly that because i us unlike you, i was in favour of leaving the european union. but i think the reality of the matter is that's not to say that we should completely cut out toys european union and eu toys the european union and eu member states . we took the member states. we took the approach of france, to be honest. i think that's backfired spectacularly, especially when it comes to our management of the channel crossings. the illegal channel crossings. so i think that what we have to talk is we are talk about is we are a post—brexit independent nation . post—brexit independent nation. we are also one where we should priority continue to prioritise strategic alliances and they include important ties with eu members. chris yakabuski 6 million visitors a year go to the british museum to look at the british museum to look at the elgin marbles. we can't say for sure that they would exist if it wasn't for that. why are we giving them back ? so, you

we giving them back? so, you know, i think can pass those on the back 200 years ottoman empire and lord elgin purchased the parthenon marbles not elgin marbles and we've you've just said we've explored we've excavated we preserved we've been phenomenal stewards and we can pass off the back that is brilliant. but 200 years later , brilliant. but 200 years later, it seems to me that it's the height of arrogance to assume that the greeks would not in the right frame of mind, to look after their own heritage . so after their own heritage. so i do like the idea , know it's do like the idea, know it's against our laws for us to hand back and sell the these artefacts. so the idea that we loan them indefinitely is a great idea and as we said, it's about developing relations with our european neighbours. that's also good. we can have replicas

if we want to hold them in the in the british museum and say this is what we did for 200 years. we looked after precious jewels . we looked after them. we jewels. we looked after them. we restored , them and we we've now restored, them and we we've now we them to the origin to sit on the parthenon . and what you can the parthenon. and what you can go back to the old king of greece now. no, no, no. the greeks of today has got very little relevance to the greece of 4000 years ago . however, it of 4000 years ago. however, it is from the soil, the son of the soil, you can stand there and think the people that walked into the highways and byways saw this magnificent feature in its original state. i thought about i about to start singing there for my guys so i want to live in america again. stars but precious more . where does this precious more. where does this end precious. because let let me

just give you a scenario. we're going to send back coins to the romans, right to the italians. now we're going to send the jade back to the japanese, and we're going to send the mummies back to egypt . want to keep mummy? to egypt. want to keep mummy? yeah i mean, this is what i'm saying. it's like the door will open and. the floodgates were like it would just be neverending. we'll be returning a things. remember the a lot of things. remember the british, you know, we you know, i'm very proud to be from england. but let's just think of the history it colonies a lot of countries. so for us to open these gates we're going to be returning lot of artwork. okay so is this something we want to start ? i honestly think this start? i honestly think this would never have happened . the would never have happened. the queen was still alive. i that's since the queen is past. a lot of things are changing and i don't know if it's for the better. okay, i've got an idea. here's what we should send to greece. okay what we'll do is we'll have these boxes all packaged up and we'll write elgin marbles with a shelf. then write black market paint and the

boxes is then it's the elgin marbles. and inside have harry and are right. we love and meghan are right. we love philip . we go. there he goes. philip. we go. there he goes. phillip schofield and how long? meghan here we go. let's see, let's see how they get on with that law in athens. talk about talk ancient relics as exactly right. the elgin marbles parthenon . nicely done . credit parthenon. nicely done. credit to that gag producer. greg okay, look, lots more to come . i'm look, lots more to come. i'm really excited because what the papers next 10 minutes earlier than everyone else because my focus this show and greg and focus on this show and greg and sebastiano my brilliant team is for this show be better than any other show. that's all we care about and that's why we get into the papers earlier than everyone else. they are next, we some else. they are next, we got some headlines. going away .

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thick and fast . at 9:00, we had thick and fast. at 9:00, we had my opinion monologue happens 9:00 every friday, saturday and sunday and tonight it was about covid. and i say that we reject that we push . well this from that we push. well this from emily who says hi mark this country already in a deep economic crisis if new covid restrictions were be imposed it would make people less productive and cost our economy more to recover . so she is not more to recover. so she is not having . and then a quick one on having. and then a quick one on the elbe in mob no elgin marbles. this from vince . if we marbles. this from vince. if we return, all the historic relics and the uproar about, our own history, there will be nothing left. vince well put. and very, very , very moving. okay, let's very, very moving. okay, let's crack on now and let's have a sneak peek at tomorrow's papers. of course , the sunday papers. so of course, the sunday papers. so we dedicate 40 minutes to that every saturday night. and i'm delighted to welcome one of the most experienced in the country. and we'll come to him shortly.

that's nigel nelson. but first off, let's have a look at the sun on sunday and more revelations in relation to prince william and that book will's lunged at me after philip funeral. he grabbed shirt, listened to me. harold he said, so this is the allegation of physical violence on part of prince william harry. a second physical bust up . might there be physical bust up. might there be more revealed in the book the observer next. nhs hospitals push private route to quick and easy care trusts offer a chance to jump long queues rapid access risks to tier service nhs trusts with record waiting lists promoting and easy private health care services at their own hospitals , offering patients own hospitals, offering patients the chance for speedier treatment . for example, treatment. for example, hospitals are offering hip replacements from thousand pounds cataract surgery for 2200. and hernia repairs for two

and a half grand. and you can get an for 300 cheaper half the price. also teachers strike could most schools . a concern could most schools. a concern that if teachers down tools in february and march that actually it could see widespread school closures across the country . closures across the country. those are two of the papers. the sunday mirror's on its way. let's speak to their political edhon let's speak to their political editor, nigel nelson . good editor, nigel nelson. good evening. nigel you, sir, have just put the paper tibet, evening. nigel you, sir, have just put the paper tibet , the just put the paper tibet, the headune just put the paper tibet, the headline we're getting graphic ready, nigel, but your headline , security warning. harry has made invictus games target . this made invictus games target. this lad is not covered himself glory this week, has he? nigel no, he hasn't. indeed and what we've got various telling us is that because of his admission that he killed five taliban, that puts

both him and some of the things that he sponsors like the invictus games in danger. and so we've got the former admiral of the fleet, lord west, who says that the invictus games will be at higher risk because of what harry has done. a former head of the royal abroad protection , di the royal abroad protection, di davis, says much the same thing . and it seems to be an thing for harry to done. he should know , having been a soldier , know, having been a soldier, that what you don't do is discuss your kills. most certainly, harry running out of friends and out of friends fast. nigel yeah, i think so. i mean , nigel yeah, i think so. i mean, there, you know, there are some actually quite sympathetic front pages for him this morning, tomorrow morning, rather. i mean , there's some people focuses in on the itv interview where he's talking about the fact that he was only able to cry. and that

was only able to cry. and that was at the funeral . of his of was at the funeral. of his of his. of his mother. there was the downside of a royal that the both him and william had to put on a very sort of stiff upper lip public face when they were going outside looking at the flowers after princess death, that kind of thing . and it was that kind of thing. and it was an awful lot to put on two young lads.i an awful lot to put on two young lads. i mean, harry was only 12, william 50. so i think that there's a mixed bag for harry is certainly the admission about the taliban was a great mistake . i mean, i think he could have answered it by saying, look, he was soldier. he did what he had to do and he doesn't want to dwell on any more. that would have been a much better response than what he actually came out with. nigel nelson, you've reported on many ministers over many decades . what is rishi many decades. what is rishi sunak most pressing concern? because we've got a front page headune because we've got a front page headline in the observer. nhs hospitals push private route to

quick and easy care. so what is the top of his in—tray? is it the top of his in—tray? is it the economy ? is it the small the economy? is it the small boats ? is it the strikes or ? is boats? is it the strikes or? is it the nhs ? right. i'm not sure it the nhs? right. i'm not sure that we should sunak know is actually today is been the nhs he's held an nhs summit at number 10 with ministers , health number 10 with ministers, health chiefs and other experts . and chiefs and other experts. and what the observer is talking is this rather extraordinary claim that nhs are offering fast treatment to patients as provide. do they pay to go privately in the hospital ? they privately in the hospital? they would have had the treatment in for free if they're prepared to wait wait an on a on a waiting list . so what wait wait an on a on a waiting list. so what is odd about this is that the going rate that the observer quote you got hips for £10,000 contracts of 2200 a hernia for 2500. that's actually what it costs the nhs to do

procedures for free. so the question is going to be if there is this spare capacity in, the private division of these nhs trusts , why aren't they using trusts, why aren't they using that to reduce waiting lists rather than trying to make money out of that too? right. nigel, i've been through these small print. this might catch your eye. they're doing bum lifts for 100. i'm in on monday. do you want to join me? i don't mind the way it is . i've heard it's. the way it is. i've heard it's. greg's got one more paper for me. greg, what have got? let's look out the sun. mary, your paper and. it is that headline. nigel harry has made invictus a target. this story is going to run and run it. yeah i think so. i mean, it's going to run. it runs that everyone gets gets very bored with that, i'm going to it seems now there's almost no point buying the book coming out next week on the basis that we to have seen most of the interesting bits in it. and you

kind of wonder what harry will do next. he's obviously to make a lot of money, but must come a point when they when even his well run was dry. i'll listen. i'll see you on harley street on monday morning. don't forget your scrubs . and thank you for your scrubs. and thank you for your scrubs. and thank you for your wise wise thoughts tonight. don't forget to buy a copy of nigel's paper tomorrow. he's got two papers. the sunday people and the sunday mirror. both are cracking read and full of exclusives . thanks, nigel. speak exclusives. thanks, nigel. speak soon. lots more to come. more papers after half past. so don't go .

it's exactly 1030. and as always at this time. every friday. saturday and sunday, a deep dive into tomorrow's papers . and let

into tomorrow's papers. and let us start with the sunday times . us start with the sunday times. they lead with the following . they lead with the following. nhs to buy up beds to clear wards . thousands of nhs patients wards. thousands of nhs patients stuck in hospitals will be moved urgent into care homes and the government plans to ease pressure on a&e wards. steve barclay the health secretary , barclay the health secretary, unveil an emergency winter pressure package this week that will include a hospital discharge fund. this will be used to block by thousands of care home beds in care quality commission facilities . the final commission facilities. the final package was being negotiated downing street tonight . senior downing street tonight. senior government sources said it would involve spending hundreds , involve spending hundreds, millions of pounds on top of 5 millions of pounds on top of 5 million in social care funding announced . in the autumn announced. in the autumn statement . ministers hope that statement. ministers hope that that fund too, which went to the nhs and local councils to increase the number of social care beds, will begin to have an effect within the next four weeks and could free between 1002 thousand hospital beds.

currently 13,000 patients are stock stuck on wards who do not need to be in hospital. 13,000 people in hospital who shouldn't be. william burning inside the harries revelations . roy harries revelations. roy knicker, the sun times, his excellent royal editor says the prince of wales is burning over in the of sussex, his book, but refuses retaliate for the sake of his country and family. this according friends oc sun now harry's guilt. according friends oc sun now harry's guilt . i couldn't cry in harry's guilt. i couldn't cry in pubuc harry's guilt. i couldn't cry in public when my mother died and a berkeley cash carrot for striking another nhs story . a striking another nhs story. a possible hope of a some kind of resolute action to the nursing industrial action striking health workers could get a significant pay boost from april if . staff accept radical reforms if. staff accept radical reforms to improve productivity . writing to improve productivity. writing in the sunday telegraph , the in the sunday telegraph, the health secretary has pledged a

constructive to pay negotiations with increases on the table if unions agree to boost efficiency to, make higher salaries more affordable and to overall link pay affordable and to overall link pay to performance . this could pay to performance. this could also include better use of technology or revisions , technology or revisions, outdated working practises. also £1 pay rise can lose you 14 k workers could be forced to turn down pay rises or risk losing thousands of pounds owing to ridiculous complexities in the tax and benefits system . in the tax and benefits system. in the worst case scenario, a £1 salary increase would a worker 14 grand as they're stripped of valuable tax breaks and childcare allowances. the observer nhs hospitals push private route to quick and easy care offering surgery for two grand hip replacement s for ten k and an mri for hundreds. also strike could close schools proposed industrial action in february and march could most english

schools shuttered. the independent's speaker elected at 15th time of asking kevin mccarthy, has become the us house speaker after the longest contest in more than a century. pay deal needed to cut waiting lists warn nurses . rishi sunak lists warn nurses. rishi sunak has for bold and radical action to the nhs crisis as the leader of britain's nursing union warned that he cannot meet his waiting list pledge without addressing pay . sunday express addressing pay. sunday express harry puts children in danger. prince harry placed his children in the crosshairs extremists and will be looking over shoulder for the rest of his life , say for the rest of his life, say top security experts , including top security experts, including essayist, hero and, bestselling author andy mcnab . the way anne author andy mcnab. the way anne diamond d—day lives at 27 acacia avenue. interesting, isn't it. oh, no. i shouldn't have said . oh, no. i shouldn't have said. sorry, andy . oh, i feel so bad. sorry, andy. oh, i feel so bad. the sun on sunday now . you got the sun on sunday now. you got there in the end . the others are

there in the end. the others are waiting. the sun on exclusive harry book reveals new bust up in front of charles wills lunged at me after philip's funeral. he grabbed my shirt. listen to me harold is what he said. so the second allegation of violence on, the part of prince william towards, harry sunday mirror. have we got that one? yeah we do. lovely. royal security warning . harry has made invictus warning. harry has made invictus games a target . and last but not games a target. and last but not least, the daily sunday most mayhem. invasion of sex. mad squeakers. nobody expects the spanish mouse but the randy rodents are here spreading their oats to create super mice immune to common poisons blooming bloomingdale . that's right. bloomingdale. that's right. spanish mega taking over britain britain . are you guy? i smell britain. are you guy? i smell a rat. get reaction now from my panel to all of tomorrow's front pages. we have olympian and broadcaster chris a.b.c. television personality, precious mule and top writer and analyst

ricky assan . let's have a look ricky assan. let's have a look at stories. well chris, if i could start with you and what do you think about this idea of using the private sector to help with the nhs waiting lists? nhs hospitals push. private routes are quick and, easy care. ten grand for new hip . maybe this is grand for new hip. maybe this is a sign of things to come. grand for new hip. maybe this is a sign of things to come . of a sign of things to come. of course. you know, i understand that when the nhs was founded in the forties three other point of view , but maybe that is an view, but maybe that is an argument that now look, i'll pay taxes for the last 40 years. what but there might be an argument that if you can afford to pay for. i mean, obviously means means testing in some way, shape or form that you get a subsidised thing for quick access. now know that you're going to get people shouting . so going to get people shouting. so because you've got a bit of

money you can afford to circumnavigate and get in quickly but we've got to do something so what is to ask? because maybe this is just a little testing the water to see whether the general populace will be open to some form of two, tier three at the point of views. means poor private medical . well that's it. well, medical. well that's it. well, this is the question. does it open can of worms? i mean, something i wanted to ask you, ricky, is that many people i think most of us around the panel of the public still want to service , which is effectively to service, which is effectively free at the point of need you don't want to break leg and don't want to break your leg and then be looking your credit card and we should never have people worrying bills. worrying about their bills. if they but there they fall ill. no, but there a welcome debate to be how welcome debate to be had. how the structured and paid the nhs is structured and paid for is the issue with the nhs . for is the issue with the nhs. the basic structure is a socialist one. well, i think that one of the main problems we are we're facing but we're in

the middle of a demographic crisis. we have an increase in the agencies and in a sense, in a way that shows much we've advanced in scientific sense advanced in a scientific sense that living for that people are living for longer with inevitably put pressure on social systems. and i looking at i think if we're looking at a model where the nhs increase increasingly relies on private sector providers is to provide certain services in order to reduce the overall load on the nhs , i think we have to explore nhs, i think we have to explore those kinds of public private partnerships . is that not partnerships. is that not privatisation by stealth? not necessarily because i think ultimately what you're doing, you're creating a diversity of providers in order to reduce load on a voice currently a publicly funded service which is struggling. we can't you know, we can't be caught. we can't do so. no, no, no, no, no, no, no. we— so. no, no, no, no, no, no, no. we have got to rethink . we have we have got to rethink. we have got to challenge. we have to discuss. yeah. there has to be some middle ground, isn't there? we to like when we can't go to extent. like when i new. and you have to i lived in new. and you have to pay

i lived in new. and you have to pay co—pay. you have what is pay a co—pay. you have what is basically when you go to see your doctor and you have health insurance, you still to insurance, but you still have to pay co—pay, insurance, but you still have to pay co—pay, which is a payment pay a co—pay, which is a payment that towards your that you pay towards what your insurance i see. so insurance will cover. i see. so little bit like an access on insurance. exactly so can you imagine that in place now, imagine if that in place now, would it work for us? i'm not sure. but there needs to be a ground. if there a co—pay, ground. if there was a co—pay, as call it, or insurance as you call it, or an insurance access, would people look after themselves better? so they themselves a bit better? so they didn't wind hospital? didn't wind up in hospital? i think that's the problem. i think that's the problem. i think . then people think also. then some people will ability or the will not have the ability or the finances actually go and see a doctor because there's a lot of americans out there that need to see doctors they can't see doctors and they can't afford so this. but afford to. mm hmm. so this. but what about that flipside, chris the idea that because i got an email about it earlier in the show because everything's free in the nhs public, it for in the nhs public, take it for granted in many ways to have self inflicted related illnesses. maybe they drink too much smoke high , bmi, type two much smoke high, bmi, type two diabetes, all of these are lifestyle related conditions. why should the nhs picking up

the tab? yeah, there was once floated an idea you would pay your doctors to stay healthy so that there would be some sort of cause relationship with if your doctor to keep you healthy and if you follow the regime. i think i see there are a lot of apps actually that are doing this now, aren't but are monitoring you. if you if you if you sign up, if the insurance and you walk a certain of and if you walk a certain of steps and you show you're doing certain things and why that certain things and why is that a bad thing. mean the late great bad thing. i mean the late great george he wouldn't get george best told he wouldn't get a unless. he kicked a new liver unless. he kicked the bottle. his doctor to the bottle. his doctor said to him, not getting a new him, you are not getting a new liver until you've cleaned yourself up bit. yeah. only yourself up a bit. yeah. only problem when start going problem is when you start going that route addictions. yeah. that's simple. you know, that's not so simple. you know, that's lot of psycho that's there's lot of psycho emotional on emotional things are going on there no, no, there and like, no, no, no, you're taking control yourself. wait if you wait a minute, ricky. but if you needed liver and know needed a new liver and you know the way to get that is to address your drinking problem , i address your drinking problem, i don't a problem with that. don't see a problem with that. well, mean if i was in that well, i mean if i was in that situation, great that

situation, i'd great for that new i'd take best care new liver and i'd take best care of it abused my original. of it if i abused my original. yeah, but. but that's. but i think that's the discussion. we need have more talk more need to have more talk more about personal as an individual issue. the issue. yeah. but that's that the addiction rational thing addiction is a rational thing where i can think it through and not psychodynamic emotional not a psychodynamic emotional thing in which possessed me in outline . i am possessed by the outline. i am possessed by the drinking spirit. yeah. so you know , there is this. it's not know, there is this. it's not simple as much more nuanced than. yeah, okay, i must not drinking now. i'll just make this . i think drinking now. i'll just make this. i think quite often when we have these debates, we talk about our publicly funded health system and in the united states, very private oriented very much a private oriented system, there is a middle ground, there's of ground, there's a number of european countries that germany germany example germany would be an example where certain models of where do have certain models of private insurance so private insurance there. so i think i think one thing that we can britain, we can learn can do in britain, we can learn from other models, especially europe, in terms of how we can we need a middle ground standard because then have because we cannot then have something like obamacare, where nobody qualify it nobody can actually qualify it because you earn too much and.

then you can't just have everybody paying all these co—pays insurances because co—pays and insurances because nobody afford to go. nobody can afford to go. good thing colleagues, having thing, my colleagues, for having the because think the conversation because i think all often there's a all too often there's almost a sanctification, nhs and sanctification, the nhs and i think unhelpful . a second think that's unhelpful. a second allegation, ricky son in the sun on sunday. will's that lunged at me after philip's funeral . now me after philip's funeral. now this is on top of an earlier allegation that heard just a allegation that we heard just a couple of days ago that william allegedly physically attacked harry in, a nottinghamshire there. nottinghamshire grabbed his collar broke his chain and chucked him to the floor. now he's been attacked after philip's funeral, which is not long ago. where does this end? i've no idea thoroughly as well as nathan's airing of dirty family laundry. i i think that prince harry is to be thought. i think he's had a difficult week. i think from a pr perspective, it's been a poor week. if be told, especially with the revelation surrounding his experience in experience serving in

afghanistan , the personal number afghanistan, the personal number of referring to but i think i think it's like i think harry is fed up of being pawn and it's now it's time for him to take control of the narrative. he's had enough. he's had enough of what institution has been dictating whole entire life. remember, he was not married in he was born into this lifestyle. he's been dealing with this his whole entire life and now he's finally seen the light. he's realised he had bigoted, you know , unconscious bias know, unconscious bias tendencies. and he's released from this pressure under the firm. he is saying i am hurt, i am sad i am upset and i want my family to be by side. he doesn't want king charles and he doesn't want king charles and he doesn't want prince . he wants his want prince. he wants his brother, his father on his side . but they have their own specific duties. they are they are information to the media they don't have to directly speak out on social media. okay

people don't seem to understand they have representatives speaking on their behalf at the end of the day. harry has suffered. he is explaining his . suffered. he is explaining his. he's not a criminal. he can do he can do that without he can do that without undermining the security of existing. i agree with there is some respects of what harry told the public and has written and is going to be in the interviews tomorrow. is the fact that he shouldn't have said the details of afghanistan , then he is putting naked in a situation she could be harmed in way and harry could be harmed and even i mean definitely he's not going to be going to the coronation time soon. but also what about her doping brother in about a little bit of fisticuffs ? i mean, siblings often fall out, don't they? he shouldn't have that, have gone public with that, should he? it's part of should he? i think it's part of his. and if you look at like anyone's book, anybody that sold anyone's book, anybody that sold a story on harry before has has said all the details . so he's

said all the details. so he's not going to leave out critical information in something that's going to continue obviously making this book a success and adding the spice to the story himself. but he's selling a book. i mean he's commodifying family life and commodified his family. what a verdict from ricky to say, i'm going to return days after the break. plus, should companies be more generous to their staff and? has people paid to freeze their bodies? their life after death, would freeze body ? the would you freeze your body? the off see you .

in two. big reaction to debates on the nhs . this from adrian and jess nhs. this from adrian and jess is free. the paying for treatment is privatisation . treatment is privatisation. people will jump the queues who can pay for treatment people will die who can't afford to pay and that is working people as well . adrian is not having this. well. adrian is not having this. what he would see as part

privatisation . this from susan privatisation. this from susan echoing those by mark. the nhs is not free, it's our nhs. we pay is not free, it's our nhs. we pay for it through our taxes and national insurance . the reason national insurance. the reason people are bled. me the reason people are bled. me the reason people are bled. me the reason people are bed blocking . it is people are bed blocking. it is the fault of the tories as they closed all the convalescent homes in the eighties. susan, thank you for that and then let's get to one more which i've got a couple of pin two tweets. this from annie who says hi, mark my nhs cataract operation was done in a private last week up cost . if i paid two and up cost. if i paid two and a half grand, i do not think people realise how expensive their operations. we must charge foreign visitors if they use our nhs as we charged. if we nhs as we are charged. if we fall ill abroad. annie, thank you for that and i wish you a speedy recovery . let's get to speedy recovery. let's get to some more big stories from the papers. tesco staff say they've missed on a christmas bonus for second year running with some receiving only a box of quality st for their efforts in 2010.

excuse me 2020 in 2020, the supermarket giant paid a 10% christmas bonus, so they got 10% in 2020. and they've given out shopping. vouchers improve this yeah shopping. vouchers improve this year. but this time around, the only thing to staff was a plastic tub chocolates worth about a fiver . so should about a fiver. so should companies be more generous to their staff? precious i think they should. i obviously the living crisis we're going through has prevented them from giving bonuses, but these people are actually looking forward and, really relying on these bonuses and to go from getting know, obviously, the things that they were getting , which is they were getting, which is a huge significance for the end of the year. they're getting a box of chocolates is not going to cut it. yeah isn't and actually the supermarket it's made a lot of money during the pandemic so why did they change is the question that we need to ask. yeah so that's what what do yeah so that's what the what do people do they treats do people want. do they treats do they want gifts from their employer. they want a special do they want away days in hotels or

do they want milk have do they want better milk have more understanding is that the tesco is in this case of giving their employees a 90% pay rise on a basic income . and now to on a basic income. and now to cpi consumer price index is one at ten points 7. yeah so but the look at some of the unions people that are agitating more pay people that are agitating more pay they'd be happy if 8% basically on the basic and what they did over christmas was a 20% discount on products certain days so you could buy products in the store for 12% less than the general public . so i think the general public. so i think if that's true, they probably haven't done to compared to don't staff. i mean obviously in retail you get a discount anyway . you can't you can't give them what they already. what about the person who in retail they would receive a discount to shop in the store so a i don't know i'll tell you right now when i

was 16 years old and working down in oxford, just your discount. yeah, but this might be an additional 10% on certain days. so they might get just 40% know. so you've just got to get discount. and then on certain days there's additional 20% discount on certain products. i think what you have to say depends on business's capabilities, isn't it tesco supermarket? exactly. it's not quite the same if it's a small family run business in a local community, their ability to give lavish bonuses is just won't be in line with its financial capabilities. important thing they're doing is just a job and keeping afloat , especially in keeping afloat, especially in the middle of a cost of living crisis that could put significant pressure on those smaller sized businesses. but talking supermarket joint, talking about supermarket joint, they perhaps could but if they perhaps could do so, but if they perhaps could do so, but if they could definitely lot they could do definitely a lot more . i mean, obviously, they've more. i mean, obviously, they've risen the you know, the hourly wage now is , what, £10, 30 or wage now is, what, £10, 30 or something? it's been slightly, but it's not significant enough because those people are the ones that got through us,

through covid through the you know, those are the kind of people that we need to take care of. and we're failing we're failing them. i think because we're doing it with the nurses. i understand that we don't have the funds we're doing it with the funds we're doing it with the we're doing it with the nurses. we're doing it with the nurses. we're doing it with the and not i'm the teachers. and i'm not i'm for not the rail strikes because i that they any i don't believe that they any more at the the more money. but at the end the day, are making that day, the people are making that decision, think they decision, i don't think they have but have plenty of money, but i think they're getting a new say. the real the real workers are getting plenty of some of this. they are getting plenty of money and a lot of them and there's a lot of them hanging around station, doing nothing, having chat, their nothing, having a chat, their friends. but the rail friends. but within the rail workers, people workers, that includes people that be cleaning that might even be cleaning toilets. yes, it's ugly. don't that might even be cleaning toil

by employer in that case and by the employer in that case and whether you whether or not they have, you know, to extent are treated know, to what extent are treated well when it comes to sort of family commitments , family related commitments, maybe family , i think those kind maybe family, i think those kind of it's because yeah i think that i think that counts for a lot for many british workers how they're treated in those conditions and that's i mean if we didn't have those people getting and the getting us the food and the products that we need through products that we need to through covid pandemic, covid and through the pandemic, we have got through as we wouldn't have got through as we wouldn't have got through as we did. i mean, we need to show appreciation the ones that appreciation to the ones that are on the on on the are on the on the on on the front and those the people front and those are the people were us and getting our were serving us and getting our groceries we couldn't leave groceries and we couldn't leave then stuck and i then we were stuck and i what i love what you're saying that because clapped for yeah we because we clapped for yeah we never got the sainsburys worker or the tesco's charity drivers. the taxi sorry some of the bus drivers. the bus drivers drivers and of course the supermarkets were full of people with covid and the workers went in that masks 12 hours. an absolute shocker . they bought by the shocker. they bought by the harry. then why didn't you tune

into mark dolan tonight? tomorrow from nine till 11 and at 1030 when the documentary ends we've got michael cole, former correspondent reacting to was in that documentary. so what mark dolan tonight get the highlights at 1030 thanks to my brilliant panel you actually smashed it tonight and of course my amazing team behind the glass and you home for watching and we'll do it all again tomorrow at. headline is his next looking ahead tomorrow's weather and there will be a mixture of bright or sunny spells scattered heavy showers and strong winds across the uk. let's take a look at the details . a windy morning at the details. a windy morning for northern scotland with gales in west scattered showers to the north and west with drier conditions and sunnier skies to the east. highs of seven celsius for northern ireland . dry but for northern ireland. dry but windy morning with sunny spells , but showers arriving from the west later the day. afternoon highs of six celsius. northern

england will likely turn increasingly showery through sunday morning with a fresh southwesterly and temperatures climbing towards afternoon highs of seven celsius. it will be an inclement day for north wales with the showers emerging . with the showers emerging. longer spells of rain. i'm talking sleet or snow over the mountains daytime temperatures peaking at around six celsius. but east midlands breezy and largely dry morning with spells turning cloudier later with the risk of showers, temperatures towards highs of 7 to 9 celsius. boston for east anglia, a risk of showers for essex and suffolk dunng of showers for essex and suffolk during the morning dry for most showers more widespread for the afternoon breezy with highs of nine celsius. a shower and breezy morning for southern england and rather cloudy to some winds in and around the heaviest showers with daytime temperatures climbing to highs of around eight celsius. staying cyclonic with strong winds and

gales in northern scotland gradually easing and bands of showers passing eastward across the country and that is the weather is shaping up through tomorrow.

the ofion the orion armstrong in the gb news newsroom. the prime minister is calling on leaders to take bold and radical to avert the nhs crisis . it follows emergency crisis. it follows emergency talks between rishi sunak and health experts , which have been health experts, which have been described by downing street as highly valuable. senior doctors say the nhs is on a knife edge with a&e units , trusts and with a&e units, trusts and ambulance services declaring critical incidents . meanwhile, critical incidents. meanwhile, the head of the rcn nurses union has warned the upcoming will be the largest of their in the world if the government does not negotiate on pay , police negotiate on pay, police searching for a missing couple and their baby have a cctv image