hello and welcome. this is calvin's common sense crusade on your tv online and on your wireless . today, we will be wireless. today, we will be discussing the importance of family wishes , mission. and if family wishes, mission. and if they're good at job, should a teacher's personal matter. but first, here's the news with talk to you on a sanchez . calvin to you on a sanchez. calvin thank you. good afternoon. this is the latest from the gb news room. the prime minister has admitted the nhs is under nicely under enormous pressure . despite under enormous pressure. despite this, rishi sunak's , the bbc. he this, rishi sunak's, the bbc. he has a renewed of confidence and optimism to get to grips with the ongoing crisis within the health service . following health service. following emergency talks yesterday , he's emergency talks yesterday, he's calling on health leaders to take bold and radical action ,

take bold and radical action, saying a business as usual mindset fix the challenges . mindset fix the challenges. health minister maria caulfield gb news. the nhs is even more pressure this is seeing a damage to both covid and flu. we're seeing over 50% increase in the number of patients in with flu at the moment. that has knock on effect if beds aren't available for a&e, which leads to the long waits you describe and has a knock on effect on ambulances being stuck at a&e trying to unload their the president of the royal college of nursing says the current crisis in a&e is much worse than before. the union has warned upcoming strikes will be the ever in the industry if the prime minister doesn't negotiate on pay. the opfions doesn't negotiate on pay. the options general secretary, pat cullen , has told rishi sunak to cullen, has told rishi sunak to meet halfway to ensure the industrial action this month. doesn't go ahead. the union also says it's willing to consider a 10% pay rise rather than 19. shadow health secretary wes

streeting told us they expect the government to down and negotiate . fight. i did have to negotiate. fight. i did have to say to the nurses, however much , say to the nurses, however much i , say to the nurses, however much , i totally sympathise their pay claim. we would i would cannot in all honesty commit to say if i was in government today, i'd be able to give the 19. but we did say. we would sit down and negotiate. i think that's what the government should do. the director of orthodox conservatives robertson says the government needs to listen to conservatives robertson says the the people on the ground who know the challenges and where the money should be spent. i think lot of the problem with what's on is that it is what's going on is that it is very is speaking from a top down perspective. they're not looking at experienced workers. think at experienced workers. i think we decent realisation. we need more decent realisation. i we need power back i think we need more power back to are running to those who are running practises, are running practises, who are running centres around country and centres around the country and listening to their ideas of where the money should go rather than the government just pouring in money without any real structure to development . the structure to development. the labour party has been to team up with the snp to block the

government's plans for minimum service levels during strikes . service levels during strikes. the snp, westminster has requested a meeting with sir keir starmer to discuss the policy . the bill will be in policy. the bill will be in parliament in the coming weeks. ensure vital public services maintain a basic function during strikes . russia claims it maintain a basic function during strikes. russia claims it has killed more than 600 ukrainian soldiers in. their temporary housing in eastern ukraine. is defence says the missile strike was revenge . ukraine's attack on was revenge. ukraine's attack on russian in a moscow controlled of the donetsk region . the of the donetsk region. the bombing follows russia ending its self—declared ceasefire here in the country in honour of their orthodox christmas. ukraine rejected that truce and shelling along the front line . shelling along the front line. prince harry has been accused , prince harry has been accused, making the invictus games a target for extremists by revealing in his memoir that he killed 25 taliban fighters in

afghanistan . the former head of afghanistan. the former head of the royal navy says the games which are due to be held in dusseldorf in germany now have serious security . the cause of serious security. the cause of the connection to, harry. he called the duke stupid . while called the duke stupid. while king charles has been seen in public, smiling for the first time since details from his son the duke of sussex, his memoir emerged, the king stopped to interact with crowds as he arrived for a chat in norfolk this morning. it arrived for a chat in norfolk this morning . it comes as arrived for a chat in norfolk this morning. it comes as a string of personal have been made public this week with prince harry's book spac . the prince harry's book spac. the bentley, released early in spain . an bentley, released early in spain. an most famous dresses is set to go on at sotheby's in new york later this month. the strapless evening dress is worth between 66 and 19 £9,000. diana first wore the dress for an official portrait with the then prince of wales in 1991 , and the first

wales in 1991, and the first ever rocket launch on uk soil takes place tomorrow evening. part by richard branson. the virgin voor bay will launch from a new facility in new newquay, in cornwall at 10 pm, depending on the weather . this in cornwall at 10 pm, depending on the weather. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. i back to calvin . happens. i back to calvin. hello and welcome to the common sense crusade with me , the sense crusade with me, the reverend calvin robinson. here's what's coming up this afternoon . rishi sunak to praise the importance of the family in his first major speech as pm this saying family is something politicians struggle to talk about. as he announced the rollout family hubs to offer

parents the support they need to raise a child then a teacher was forced leave two schools after calling a change on two people. a girl and mohammed a false prophet . it does raise the prophet. it does raise the question should teacher's personal abuse matter .7 and the personal abuse matter? and the prime minister has said that. he would like all students in england to study maths until the age of 18, saying the uk needed to reimagine its approach to numeracy added he wanted young people to have the necessary math skills and the confidence needed with their and things like mortgage . i'll be like mortgage. i'll be discussing the value of this in depth with dr. david starkey and of course can join in any of our discussions . emailing gb views discussions. emailing gb views at or by tweeting us at gb news dashboard . dashboard. as a society , we have stopped.

as a society, we have stopped. we have to stop . a liberal might we have to stop. a liberal might that people should be able to live their lives however they see fit. what goes on between two consenting adults in the privacy of their own homes is no one else's business. a fairly reasonable argument a conservative argue that's fine that we are with liberties worth fighting for. however, those individual liberties that come with social responsibilities. we live in a society meaning our freedoms come with duties and obugafions freedoms come with duties and obligations to our communities. without that basic concept, everything starts to fall apart. the family is the first community that we belong to , community that we belong to, followed by our parish or local , perhaps a sporting or religious community and others right up to our national community and the worldwide human community. we cannot escape the fact that we are social beings. escape the fact that we are social beings . why then have we social beings. why then have we seemingly concluded that people can self identify but we can create own identities without any for the people around us as any for the people around us as a man society , he has certain

a man society, he has certain expectations of me , i say expectations of me, i say rightly so . without standards rightly so. without standards and expectations , we enter chaos and expectations, we enter chaos and expectations, we enter chaos and anarchy , good governance of and anarchy, good governance of life is about finding that balance . to me, for a man to say balance. to me, for a man to say he is now living as a woman oversteps that mark. i think it says that a person no longer cares their place within the community. what is expected of them as a man or how they are able to provide for their family? it seems to me their personal happiness is more important to them than place in society. in my view, without boundaries, we don't know where to draw the line. what started as men wanting to live ? women as men wanting to live? women soon became white, people wanting identify ethnic wanting to identify as ethnic minorities . and that's just the minorities. and that's just the start. slippery slope many of us warned about, is now starting to rear its ugly. this week we heard about a growing niche within the trans called trans age . it's been reported that age. it's been reported that some people now decide to identify as an age other than their biologic or natural age.

it doesn't take an overly active imagination to see where this could be going and, how breaking down this boundary will be dangerous to children and vulnerable people . boundaries vulnerable people. boundaries exist for a reason as do social expectations standards. if sticking them and talking about them makes a bigot, a transphobe or any other insult, soviet, i will wear whatever label you at me. what i will not do anymore is go along with the lie. i do not think men can become women. white people cannot become black people . and most importantly, people. and most importantly, grown men become young girls . grown men become young girls. our immutable characteristics nothing more than descriptors . nothing more than descriptors. and i think we have been placing far too much emphasis on them. our identity is rooted in where live, which communities we belong to and our nationhood. these are more important because these are things about ourselves that we choose and things that unite us . i say it's time to unite us. i say it's time to stop conceding ground. if you go along with one delusion, what is stop you from going along with all of them. where is your red

flag? where is your line? in the sand. let's stop lying and instead stand truth and unity . instead stand truth and unity. rishi sunak praised the importance of the family in his first major speech of 2023. this week , he recognised that family week, he recognised that family is something politicians struggle to talk about and said we cannot not talk about the thing that is most important in most of our lives. he also announced the roll of family hubs to offer the support they need to raise a child. but what exactly ? family hubs. here to exactly? family hubs. here to this and more is conservative peer lord michael farmer. first of all, thank you for joining peer lord michael farmer. first of all, thank you forjoining us of all, thank you for joining us on a sunday before i have you in the studio. pleasure kelvin. good to be with you. what is family hub? well, i would say to give labour some credit to begin with . labour had the show start

with. labour had the show start policy setting up sure start centres all over the country very many of them at a huge cost which was a was centres for looking after 0 to 5 year olds to the early the family hubs network which has been divvied up over last 15 years which the prime minister's the first prime minister to really support them . the minister to really support them. the up set up in cities towns across the country . and this is they the country. and this is they are for noughts and 19 in and to nought to 25 for special needs children as well. so they are a place where multiple services within the hub you're going to have a hub where you've got government departments offering their service is locally. it's

going to be owned if you like, by the local authority , but it by the local authority, but it will involve the charity services , the voluntary services services, the voluntary services . well, so they are a place which none . where families go, which none. where families go, single mums can go . i was sort single mums can go. i was sort of cite the example of a single mum with a 13 year old boy and she finds some white powder his pocket. what does she do? well, she doesn't want to go social services and she doesn't want to go to the police. well, a family hub would be a place where you would go in the door and you would go in the door and you would be direct targeted towards a service that can help . but all a service that can help. but all i say, all the sort of government services, like with debt, homelessness how housing, eat, all these problems that

families and particularly where we're involved. i think that the family breakdown area you're going to have mediation services where you're going to have i think already the courts are are are practising having the couple of media services not the actual court but but in the family hub it's a non again stigmatising environment where you can hopefully reckon style the differences and keep the family intact. and why is that important. a lot of people say family is an old fashioned idea. it's very traditional as to why is it important to keep the family? well, actually if you look at this daughter own family over the last 50 years, there's been a real decline in the fam family . there's been a real family. there's been a real increase in single parenting . i

increase in single parenting. i think . in in increase in single parenting. i think. in in 1970, 21% of children were with a single parent at the age of 17. now . parent at the age of 17. now. it's 44. and that's well, that was in the year 2000 when they did the millennium cohorts. so that was just in 30 years. and been living in a in age where i think you've touched on this sort of individual liberalism where in fact the family has been neglected . but it is it is been neglected. but it is it is the core social unit in society . and it's actually where, as the prime minister stated , i the prime minister stated, i mean, he stated his own his own experience . that's where he was experience. that's where he was encouraged with his education. that's where was given the values of what is right, wrong in society, etc. etc. if you don't have that behind you , then don't have that behind you, then you're to have a life of . and

you're to have a life of. and i mean, i would expect this up as well as. isn't it? sorry data backs this up as well. yes absolutely. i mean i can mentioned this review i did which the minister of justice own statistics showed that prisoners who had family visits were 39% less likely to re—offend than those who didn't have family visits . significant. have family visits. significant. yeah. and the reoffending rates in those days when it was a 17 was 43% the entire generation will transition a transmission of crime was running at over 60. it's very very high if you go to mum or dad in prison , then mum or dad in prison, then you've got a 60% chance of ending up there yourself sometime. so, you know, keeping together, encouraging and particularly addressing the area of fatherlessness is, is , is

of fatherlessness is, is, is very beneficial for society. the cost of family breakdown. we don't really analyse it in every single area . when a family single area. when a family breaks down, i think it's that the woman , a single mum will the woman, a single mum will become. i think something like % become. i think something like% poorer . the cost to society the poorer. the cost to society the housing wealth and the sense of social justice did a report that showed that child from that family breakdown is twice as likely to attend failing school, twice as likely to end up homeless and twice as likely to end drugs and crime. so end up in drugs and crime. so chances of falling into the gaps and exactly by family and it's exactly by family breakdown. yeah it's also a pro—life argument. it breakdown. yeah it's also a pro—life argument . it because pro—life argument. it because for myself who are for people like myself who are talking against abortion in favour of the sanctity of life, people often what about people often say, but what about people often say, but what about people post—abortion about the child the of its life? child for the rest of its life? where is the argument to support the child growing but this the child growing up? but this is case for family hubs or is a case for family hubs or a case for that just they. well, family so as family hubs. so they're as prevention and rather than cure

, i think government policies in many areas have health is one of them. but but but but certainly them. but but but but certainly the family that's what the family hub is. therefore it's to prevent breakdown. up till now we've just allowed it to happen . we haven't really paid any attention to it. but if you can stop it breaking down. you you are actually being great benefit to society as a if a cohesive family is going to be producing wealth it's going to be producing stable citizens . a producing stable citizens. a broken down family is to be consuming wealth and actually producing unstable citizens and it's not rocket science . so it's not rocket science. so a family hub is really right at the it's prevention. yeah and we haven't really paid attention to that before and that's where family hubs is paying attention. and i think that's where the

prime minister recognise this but the this is a policy which is important . well my friend is important. well my friend dame rachel souza, the children's commissioner , also children's commissioner, also been talking about this and saying that every policy of government should have family at the core of it. they should be looking at family in every decision they make and every law they make than having an independent but independent family unit. but i think these have to come think these things have to come top this is first top down. and this is the first time minister has made time a prime minister has made this focus long, long this his focus in a long, long time, it? it is. even time, isn't it? it is. even though a lot of prime ministers been pushed that way. but but the think touched the i think you've touched yourself that sort of yourself that this sort of culture of the sort of jonstew it adage know do it mills adage you know do whatever like without hurt whatever you like without hurt hurting has prevailed hurting your body has prevailed and is still there in a very way. that argument . but we have way. that argument. but we have to fight against it because i mean, i think the prime minister at the said you know, family is can come in in different shapes with what holds them together is love will that that word love

very misused. i mean how do you define love and actually love love is displayed in a family by commitment . it's the bought the commitment. it's the bought the biological family is shown to be far more committed one another even though they may not like one another or they have had arguments, etc. they will still be there for one another and help each other through . help each other through. absolutely. with you. i think love is about self—sacrifice also? i think we could go on this conversation lot longer and talk about how liberalism is actually destroying the family. but we have time today. but thank you so much for coming in. not all. michael the not at all. michael of the conservative peer . now, conservative peer. now, plenty more come afternoon. all more to come this afternoon. all my sense crusade. after the break, a teacher was forced to leave schools after calling leave two schools after calling a a girl. and then a trans pupil a girl. and then mohammed a false prophet. it does raise the question, should a teacher's views a teacher's personal views matter? but first, let's take a look at the weather. looking ahead to this evening's and the uk looking to have a mix of

uk is looking to have a mix of clear spells and with breezy conditions , here are the conditions, here are the details. a fair number of showers are likely to sweeping across the south—west of england and brisk and gusty winds as a result. clear spells will be short lived. most of the showers across the southeast should die . so many areas here will go into even into the evening drier with clear periods developing . a with clear periods developing. a showery setup is across much of wales, although the heaviest and most widespread of showers are likely in the west the occasional shower might inroads into parts of the west midlands to the southwesterly breeze , to the southwesterly breeze, although for many will be a dry to the night with broken cloud cover , it will be a similar cover, it will be a similar situation north eastern england where are possible over the pennines whilst further east towards the coast it looks dry and fairly clear. towards the coast it looks dry and fairly clear . scotland see and fairly clear. scotland see a large contrast from west to east with showers in the west and clear spells towards edinburgh and other eastern parts across

northern ireland. it will be a changeable picture . there'll be changeable picture. there'll be some clear weather at times, especially in the east, but with some showers moving from the west overnight. will hold on to clear spells and blustery showers. although most of showers. although most of showers are likely in the west and that is how the weather is shaping up into tomorrow morning . he's the king of tv and he's back returning to his throne this breakfast and gb news with eamonn holmes and isabel webster. good morning it's a it's my favourite time set. sure loves eamonn holmes back on gb news breakfast the 9th of january at 6 am.

welcome back to the common sense crusade on gb news on tv, online and on your wireless. a christian teacher has claimed is being discriminated against as he faces professional conduct. heanng he faces professional conduct. hearing misgendering a student in 2017. joshua sutcliffe was suspended by and left the chair while school oxford where he taught after told a group of students. well, don't girls , one students. well, don't girls, one of the students identified as a boy. the hearing is regard to his time at the school and sutcliffe could be prevented from teaching if the allegations him are proved . he also said he him are proved. he also said he had to leave another london after calling mohammed a false prophet on his personal youtube channel. so today i'm asking should a teacher personal views matter ? now joining me is former matter? now joining me is former eton teacher and culture coming cultural commentator will knowland will not. and another

teacher who is known for having a very strong views on youtube . a very strong views on youtube. thank you for joining a very strong views on youtube. thank you forjoining us a very strong views on youtube. thank you for joining us today. tell us a little bit about your story. if you can summarise it, into seconds or so. well, into 30 seconds or so. well, i was asked to give a lecture on the topic of identity , and i the topic of identity, and i spoke about toxic masculinity and how actually it's not toxic when viewed from the point of view of biology and how women have valued these very traits in men for years . this caused men for years. this caused offence and i was asked take the video down off youtube despite a disclaimer and i felt infringed upon my freedom of speech right. so this sounds much like what's happened to sutcliffe at his london school. it sounds very common amongst the teaching community now. would you say there is a group think mentality or an echo chamber in. yes, certainly . i think there's this certainly. i think there's this idea what we are to have is neutrality in teachers. but the way that it's actually put out

in practise the only certain viewpoints are allowed to be held by teachers . yet teachers held by teachers. yet teachers don't know what these viewpoints are it's not put in black and white. so the they find themselves walking over an invisible trip wire and they need be told with great clarity what the views they're expected to hold off what they don't know that's interesting but we don't know what views of but we know what the views aren't because sutcliffe says his teaching record was and that he's being persecuted his christian views. that sounds very similar to me . that sounds very similar to me. yes i think this is certainly one of the trip wires and to the extent that he's been as misgendering student, what you can see is that the idea that a trans gender person is a real thing has been assumed in the phrasing of the accusation . but phrasing of the accusation. but really there were just two men, for example who might mistakenly identify , as women . now the way

identify, as women. now the way it's set up assumes that he's supposed to agree with the whole idea of transgender being legitimate, but surely should be one of the things that is open for discussion and the variety perspectives are tolerated. but clearly not. it should be . clearly not. it should be. absolutely. it's bizarre to me that someone can get suspended for saying, well done, girls, which is a compliment is encouraging good behaviour. however one of the girls identified as a boy which shows school as going down the track of trans affirming and is that not the danger here that the schools are a in one particular politically contested set of use. i'm against another because in contrast the teacher sutcliffe's said on his personal youtube channel that mohammed is a false prophet and that was enough to get him suspended . enough to get him suspended. well if it's the personal view that's the problem, then surely teacher saying that mohammed , teacher saying that mohammed, not a false prophet, is also out. a personal view and should

be dismissed for that . so you be dismissed for that. so you can see not so much having a personal view as what particular view you have. that's the problem. and what we get into very dangerous territory indeed , especially with the fact that teachers, social media is also being monitored and police to . being monitored and police to. but we can see this with jordan peterson's recent problem regarding the fact that unless submits to retraining then he's not allowed to continuing practising as a psychologist . practising as a psychologist. and this isn't related to what doesin and this isn't related to what does in his professional career . it's about his own personal social media. absolutely i just want to clarify. sorry i got that wrong. he didn't he wasn't suspended for saying mohammed was a false. he left that school. he was suspended saying, well girls. but still well done, girls. but i still think these very valid think both of these very valid viewpoints. i watched your viewpoints. and i watched your video actually i watched your video actually i watched your video toxic video on masculinity or toxic masculinity. very masculinity. i thought it's very fair and very balanced, but where if teachers are where can we go if teachers are afraid voicing their

afraid of voicing their opinions, even in private spaces such as youtube and outside of school? where can we go in education to make sure that both viewpoints are put across to students or to young people in way? i think it does draw more attention . the role of parents attention. the role of parents in parents are always the primary educators , whether they primary educators, whether they are homeschooling or not. so parents who are feeling the their kids aren't being taught to think critically in a broad based manner in need, to take that duty very seriously and might mean accessing extra services like internet books or just having good old fashioned discussions around dinner table so that the children hear the variety of perspectives they might not otherwise be encountering less. the teachers a sacking and with you will. i think at this point i homeschooling far more than i recommend schools in this country. a lot of them seem to be captured. unfortunately we've

got to take back control and reverse that long march through the institution. anyway thank you for us. you very much for joining us. that knowland, eton that is will knowland, eton teacher commentator teacher and cultural commentator author. out both the author. we reached out both the travel school and the department of education for a comment. travel school said they were unable to comment at this and the told us that they do not the dfe told us that they do not comment on individual cases. you are with gb news on tv, radio and online and the prime minister has said that he would like all students in england to study maths until the of 18. rishi sunak the uk needs to reimagine its approach to numeracy and added wanted young people to have the math skills to feel confident with their finances and things like . finances and things like. mortgage deals. now it's time for a check on those news headunes for a check on those news headlines with alison kosik . headlines with alison kosik. calvin you. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the prime minister has admitted the nhs is undeniably enormous pressure

despite this rishi sunak told bbc he has a renewed sense of confidence and optimism to get to grips with the ongoing within the nhs . following emergency the nhs. following emergency talks yesterday, he is calling on health leaders to take bold and radical action, saying a business as usual mindset won't fix the challenge . health fix the challenge. health minister maria caulfield told gb news the nhs is facing even more pressure this winter . we're pressure this winter. we're seeing a twin demick of both covid and flu. we're seeing over 50% increase in the number of patients in with flu at the moment. that has knock on effect if beds aren't available for a&e, which leads to the long waits it has waits you describe and it has a knock on effect on ambulances being stuck trying to unload patients . the president of the patients. the president of the royal college of nursing says the current crisis in is much worse than before . the union has worse than before. the union has warned upcoming strikes will be the biggest ever in the industry if the prime doesn't negotiate on pay . the rcn general

on pay. the rcn general secretary pat cullen has told rishi to meet her halfway to ensure the industrial action this month doesn't go ahead . the this month doesn't go ahead. the union also says willing to consider a 10% pay rise rather than 90. shadow health wes streeting told us expect the government to sit down and negotiate. i'm afraid i did . to negotiate. i'm afraid i did. to say to the nurses , however much say to the nurses, however much i totally sympathise with their pay i totally sympathise with their pay claim . we would. i would pay claim. we would. i would call on honesty to say if i was in government i'd be able to give the 19. but we did say we would down and negotiate. i think that's what the government should do and king charles has been seen out in smiling for the first time since details from his son, the duke of sussex, his have emerged. the king's stop to interact with crowds as he arrived for a church service in norfolk this morning. it comes as a string of personal revelations have been made pubuc revelations have been made public this week with prince harry's book spare accidentally

released early in spain spain , released early in spain spain, tv, online and the abbey plus radio. this is.

gb news. welcome back to the common sense crusade on gb news on tv, online and on your wireless . in his and on your wireless. in his first major policy speech of 2023, rishi sunak announced plans to make all students study maths up to the age of 18. he said , in a world where data is said, in a world where data is everywhere and statistics underpin every job letting our children out the world without those skills is letting our children down. so is sunak planning to turn us into a nafion planning to turn us into a nation of technocrats who know the price of everything but

value of nothing. i spoke historian and broadcaster, professor david starkey about this for our weekly segment. david starkey sunak mentioned in his speech that we're one of the few countries not to require our children to study some form of maths up to the age of 18. is that because we've traditionally valued the humanities in this country ? no, i think it's country? no, i think it's because we have a different way of organising education. we specialise early. earlier, the myths underlying sunak remarks is that because have specialists in the sixth form that to say you tend to do so you tend to do sciences somehow our children are missing out on the role education. there's new evidence of this at all. what sunak's be talking about is serious maths. at the beginning of school is all really messy. it's arithmetic. he's just familiar people with the basics of numeracy. what numbers mean ? numeracy. what numbers mean? what percentages mean , how to

what percentages mean, how to multiply divide and whatever. that's what you need . that that's what you need. that enables you to do interest rates , that enables you to manage your mortgage . that enables you your mortgage. that enables you to manage your finances. it also actually and this is very important . you can't do history important. you can't do history without a sense of number. in my penod without a sense of number. in my period of history, the early modern period. you need to know that the time of the great conflict between england and france how is it that a country like england which is a quarter of the size france and at the time had about 2/5 of the population manages to be trials in war. need to know your other words you need as it were a sense what i used to call orders of magnitude . so that's the of magnitude. so that's the positive for . but let's just positive for. but let's just look at the other side now. why i think sunak is fundamentally wrong . if you wanted a reason wrong. if you wanted a reason why sunak was wrong, you'd only got to sunak and you'd got to look at him. have you ever seen a dry area worse for worse

delivered ? flimsy speech. and delivered? flimsy speech. and isn't it clear? and i'm a conservative i'm a member of the conservative party. paul sunak writes to me these pathetic letters by email, begging me to give money to the party which i said to do because he's he's a staff officer . he's not staff officer. he's not a general . there's no flair. general. there's no flair. there's no gift of language. nobody would ever follow sunak into battle. not even into battle in house of commons. it's why he's got such problem in managing party because there's no gift , there's no flair. but no gift, there's no flair. but i think there's another thing that we should be talking about . and we should be talking about. and i let's have serious debate on this. it's not only that sunak speech shows , why he was so speech shows, why he was so misguided , so fundamentally misguided, so fundamentally wrong. it's fact that we've actually had an experiment in being governed by mathematics . being governed by mathematics. he's called lockdown the entire argument about lockdown works mathematical. they were based on

mathematical. they were based on mathematical modelling immensely elaborate computer programs into which highly speculative notions are put at one end and we still risley accurate predictions come out of the other. it's juju similarly and we are the extruded we mismanagement of our finances depends on wildly complicated mathematical formulae. the whole business of quantity reasoning could only be dreamed up by a financial elite, which is essentially massive , which is essentially massive, magically trained and played with mathematic formulae. the trouble is , of course, maths trouble is, of course, maths doesn't give you you know this, i know this , that famous remark, i know this, that famous remark, which i think you actually used in your introduction , the price in your introduction, the price of everything, the value , of everything, the value, nothing. it doesn't give you that sense of value . it doesn't that sense of value. it doesn't give you that sense of balance because course, although the physical world is mathematical, the entire physical world is mathematical. human beings.

aren't we don't behave predictably . and the attempt at predictably. and the attempt at managing human beings by mathematics. there's only one way you could do it. it's by the concentrate cap. there's never been a clearer example of the use of maths government than eichmann on the concentration camp. i wouldn't go that far, but i do see similarities in the problem we're facing today and at government seems to measure all value based on gdp. the gdp of the countries in the most important measure of our success as a country, i think there are so more variables at play that they need to be looking at. but what the humanities. if we devalued by frivolous courses , devalued by frivolous courses, gender studies, etc. how do we save the humanities and we need to return to the classical education. all the humanities saveable. i mean this is the terrifying problem, isn't it but they seem to be on a programme of self. i mean all decent now or almost all are either retired

in. other words they're not subjected or just talking to my own discipline. they're subject to the constraints of current employment or outside the universities . a david aboulafia universities. a david aboulafia on the one hand is somebody who's retired and you're andrew roberts on the other is , roberts on the other is, somebody who's never held a university job like me, got out just time. there is this terrifying sense that the humanity is because of the take over of all of the whole of this sub marxism , new marxism. there sub marxism, new marxism. there intent on self—destruction , all intent on self—destruction, all that one can for hope is that the intrinsic interest of the subject, the liveliness of people's to literature, they're involvement of theatre, the interest interest of the thing we in people , all of us, we in people, all of us, naturally the humanities are door to that. that's pessimistic. does that mean we

have had periods of history where we've lost the classics entirely and have had to be rediscovered? could be possible again. we mean with the again. what we mean with the dark ages . knowledge can die . dark ages. knowledge can die. ideally people have this notion that ideas just. well, they're like plato, the imagined just dwell around the ideas. they're there inside people's heads . there inside people's heads. these ideas that i've been talking about, the ideas of monarchy. aristotle democracy, whatever, to fundamental extent we're have to be rediscover it. you have this what these things called renaissance . this are called renaissance. this are about remember under and didn't tell you calvin because i just use it as the phrase remember underlying our civilisation is a past great civilised the civilisation greece and rome the thing that produced those sculptures that we are arguing about now at the centre of the british museum's collection and the astonishing pavements of that civilisation built though it was of course on the found

these forms of conquest and slavery. they underpin our civilisation and we lost them. we them with the fall of room. fundamentally, rome . and so this fundamentally, rome. and so this is really frightening stuff rome falling because they missed the currency because they had the equivalent of the nhs, they doubled the of the army in two successive and it's downhill from there. but with the fall of rome you lose knowledge that knowledge then has to be painstakingly preserved. rediscover and translated . re rediscover and translated. re understood. communicated by new educate . that's what we mean educate. that's what we mean when we talk about the renaissance in the caroline june penod renaissance in the caroline june period when we talk in other about 800 when we talk about the 12 century renaissance , that's 12 century renaissance, that's the thing that happens at the beginning of our own monarchy. after norman conquest when above all talk about what happens in

the renaissance of the 15th and 16th century period . i've 16th century period. i've devoted my life to studies that. this sudden extraordinary rise engagement rediscover it with old books . the marvellous phrase old books. the marvellous phrase of geoffrey at the beginning of it, or all old books from which new springs the old fertilising the new. we need a new we now need a new enlightenment . the need a new enlightenment. the horrors that we have at the moment are a product of the late enlightenment. we need a new renaissance a new renaissance. i love it . that was more of love it. that was more of a warning than a conversation. david starkey. thank you very much pleasure . another excellent much pleasure. another excellent there with dr. david starkey and to give their thoughts off the back of that our broadcaster darren grimes writer rebecca reed. darren grimes writer rebecca reed . rebecca, you have a reed. rebecca, you have a daughter. how do you feel about the prospect of her being obuged the prospect of her being obliged study maths until the age of 18? i would genuinely consider from 16. i think it is

so unfair. firstly also, i'd like to thank you for the call that you gave me last week . i'm that you gave me last week. i'm secondly. yes, i. no, i think it's i mean, if she's anything like me and i really hope she is, i'm on a lot of levels i think it's to address i think it's a really way to make people which to leave there's absolutely no point in forcing people things they people to study things they don't they're not don't enjoy in that they're not good i can hear my good as. yeah. i can hear my producer coughing my ear as well. it. well. everyone's caught it. i don't think it was from me. so i think. darren. do you applaud what i said, at what she said? like i said, at least thinking outside the least thinking outside of the box to find a way to box and trying to find a way to ensure young people better ensure young people are better prepared later. look, prepared for later. look, i there's much that comes there's not much that comes out of do month. i do of what do next month. i do actually endorse at the moment based on this. think he has based on this. i think he has least half a point raised. we've got to be able to compete with the of china around world in these new technologies and you've got to be able to do bafic you've got to be able to do basic leaps with basic tenets of understanding of english and maths . and we have people in

maths. and we have people in this country that are leaving school without either those things that surely cannot be raised in the world. fifth, the sixth largest. economy. so i think he does have a point whether or not actually , you whether or not actually, you know, everyone's going to enjoy that's another conversation altogether . that's another conversation altogether. i'm not that's another conversation altogether . i'm not sure that's another conversation altogether. i'm not sure you go to school to it, though, calvin. some things in life seem unfair , maybe are unfair, but that's life and i think fundamentally we've got to remind our young people of that message . well, i people of that message. well, i couldn't disagree more, daryn. i feel like school learning is like the greatest joy in life . like the greatest joy in life. there's no some of the happiest signs of my life as what i was doing a—levels and i was doing engush doing a—levels and i was doing english history and drama and religious studies . so i could religious studies. so i could just literally learn and cry like thomas aquinas , chekhov. like thomas aquinas, chekhov. why would you not people to have two years of their life where they just saturated the they just saturated in the incredible things that you can learn about in this world. but i do agree with you. it's kind of laughable anybody leave laughable that anybody leave

school not laughable. school unable is not laughable. it's people leave it's very sad. people leave school read and write. school unable to read and write. and that people are and the idea that people are leaving illiterate and leaving school illiterate and we're oh, still 18, what we're like, oh, still 18, what being able to read 11 would be a great new goal, but is isn't it? is this not to little too late? should we not, darren, be looking changing numeracy skills earlier on primary school is earlier on in primary school is too too say 18. you too little too say until 18. you have to catch . well mean have to catch. well i mean failing the curriculum with more and more bakari and walker three or four actually focusing on you know english and maths . so know english and maths. so i think actually you could just the curriculum to actually ensure that you know activists can't be waxing lyrical about things that just don't matter to you. i pc eat lessons or whatever they call it these days.i whatever they call it these days. i actually think a fundamental rethink the way in which all of what we do includes on curriculum and you know this colvin better than i do is the way to go about it but english and maths you know later until 18 is the way in which other

countries around the world to do it and we can actually learn from them about how better upskill our population . you know upskill our population. you know i'm all for here in the evidence on that kelvin. yeah well stay where you are because we stick with you guys, but move on to another debate. and as segway. rebecca, you'd be rebecca, i thought you'd be here. this a late here. i got this as a late christmas present for your daughter, on to daughter, so i'll pass on to you when. you and you come next on tuesday. but a church england tuesday. but a church of england vicar, bingo alison vicar, the reverend bingo alison identifies as non—binary. it's emerged bingo said emerged this week. bingo said i felt was guiding me into felt god was guiding me into this new truth about myself . this new truth about myself. justin welby , the archbishop of justin welby, the archbishop of canterbury, also recently endorsed the church of england school guidance , which includes endorsed the church of england s

traditional beliefs, gender? or is it keeping up with the times? still with me is broadcaster darren grimes and writer rebecca reid. so i'll start off with you . what do you make of it? i it's difficult, isn't it, because you never want to impugn what somebody else feels they're being called to do spiritually. and it's not really for me to say god. didn't say that to you . it is it does feel . it is if it does feel uncomfortable and it does feel out of step with very traditional experience of the church. however i traditional experience of the church. howeveri don't traditional experience of the church. however i don't think it can be a bad thing that they're trying to be accepting . they're trying to be accepting. they're trying to be accepting. they're trying to be responsible, and they're be . i i don't they're trying to be. i i don't know, modern, but ultimately the real problem is that i'm not sure the bible really addressed what to do with trans issues. i'm not sure that people i'm not sure that many people were with trans issues were dealing with trans issues at okay, darren. the at the time. okay, darren. the bible doesn't really address trans issues . let me i've got my trans issues. let me i've got my bible right here. let me go to genesis and i run them. so god created man in his own image and the image of god he created him male female, created them. male and female, created them. i mean, that seems quite

straightforward. me. darren absolutely . mean we know that absolutely. mean we know that god creates male and female. i say actual key tenant of traditional beliefs of christianity . think to say that christianity. think to say that you no longer about such beliefs is actually to abandon the church of england to become utterly irrelevant. it's just another part , if you ask me and another part, if you ask me and this whole show has been about the slow march through our right. it's part of our nation's cultural and social inheritance andifs cultural and social inheritance and it's being corrupted in my by the absolute remorseless poison that is identity based politics. the church of england say it has absolutely nothing to do with that. i mean , ask do with that. i mean, ask yourself this, calvin right. does archbishop welby really reckon that in pandering to those like this, bingo individual, that they're actually going to bring a new woke audience , the church of woke audience, the church of england? these are the kind people that would quite like to do with the nuclear family, with state, with key pillars of our

societies and i think to indulge them is to indulge a new intolerance, not to do away within tolerance in wider society . but that's it, isn't society. but that's it, isn't it? it's diverse inclusion and equality is dei is the acronym that actually forces institutions to die because they're bending to societal norms and modern values rather than sticking to what they know to be true. rebecca i understand what you say about trying to be modern. can the church ever really and should it ever really be modern? so when i was at university, there, a church in bristol which had a sign outside which said, we got the word and all, but said something along the lines we you to know that the lines of we you to know that you're welcome regardless of your gender. and they list everything . and i became very everything. and i became very estranged , my faith, because i estranged, my faith, because i was in a polyamorous relationship and i was having a lot sex and i wanted to be able to do things. and therefore i felt was one or the other. felt like was one or the other. therefore i had no place in church, no place having a relationship with god and actually in bristol

actually the church in bristol me it was okay to . me feel like it was okay to. want to try to explore both and so i think you can run the risk of completely cutting people off on basis that they don't on the basis that they don't every of the bible feeling every tenet of the bible feeling unwelcome and i wouldn't want . every tenet of the bible feeling unwelcome and i wouldn't want. i think a lot of churches would say if you're gay, be here. and that's and god, but don't that's you and god, but don't come of come every sunday because of that. and think that's to a that. and i think that's to be a good thing. right? well, can i can i put that back to you, darren, because you identify as a christian and as i'm saying a christian and as or i'm saying identify these things. identify you all these things. now church should now surely a church should recognising that. certain things ought to be strive for and certain things ought to be avoided. and that you can include people to say you're welcome to you are but welcome to come. you are but expect change not expect to change is that, not the difference. i think actually if look the way in which, if you look at the way in which, younger people are coming through to church and there through to the church and there are statistics which are actual statistics which might viewers that might surprise some viewers that show, when it comes show, especially when it comes to high anglican churches , to high anglican churches, there's been uptick in people there's been an uptick in people that to come to that been wanting to come to these places and for that that rich that we have these places

and i think that actually comes down colourant people seeking to belong to something that's bigger than themselves right away from the modern culture wars, a sort of narcissist, away from the modern culture wars, a sort of narcissist , tick wars, a sort of narcissist, tick identity politics and, so on and so forth. but if the church seeks to imitate calvin , seeks seeks to imitate calvin, seeks to imitate the world of and the west's new craven pursuit of a focus on issues that simply don't matter in life. i mean, rebecca mentioned earlier, i don't think the bible addresses it but i'm out of time. darren sorry about that. that's rebecca reid, writer at darren grimes broadcaster. thank you both so for your time. we reached out to the church of england for comment. it is a comment. a spokesman it is a huge privilege responsibility to provide education of provide the education of children in our schools. we believe the image of believe is made in the image of god. their background, age, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation . each week on the orientation. each week on the show, we like to end with closing prayer. and today we celebrate the or the manifestation christ to the manifestation of christ to the gentiles. so here is today's collect of god who by the

leading of a start. it's manifest by only begotten son to the gentiles. mercifully, grant that we which know the now by faith, may after this life fruition of thy glorious godhead , through jesus christ, our lord. amen thank you very much for watching. common sense crusade with me, the reverend calvin robinson. i'll be back with next sunday 3 pm. with you next sunday at 3 pm. it's god bless . it's not clear. god bless. looking ahead this evening's looking ahead to this evening's weather the uk is looking to weather, the uk is looking to have a mix clear spells and have a mix of clear spells and showers with breezy conditions. here details . a fair here are the details. a fair number showers are likely to number of showers are likely to sweep in across the south—west of england and brisk and gusty as a result , of england and brisk and gusty as a result, spells will be shortlived . most of the showers shortlived. most of the showers across the south—east should die out. so many areas here will go into even into the drier with clear periods developing a showery set is expected across much of wales , although the much of wales, although the heaviest and most widespread of the showers are likely in the. the occasional shower might make inroads into parts of west midlands thanks to the

southwesterly breeze, although for many will be a dry start to the night with broken cover. it will be a situation across north england where showers are possible over the pennines whilst further east towards the coast it looks dry and fairly clear . scotland will see a large clear. scotland will see a large contrast from west to east showers in the west and clear with spells towards edinburgh and other eastern parts across northern ireland. it will be a changeable picture . there'll be changeable picture. there'll be some clear weather times, especially in the east, but some showers moving in from the west overnight. we'll hold on to clear spells and blustery showers . although most of the showers. although most of the showers. although most of the showers are likely in the west , showers are likely in the west, thatis showers are likely in the west, that is how the weather is shaping up into morning . join shaping up into morning. join every sunday at 6 pm. for glory meets exclusive interviews . i'll meets exclusive interviews. i'll be finding out who are politicians are and what they really think. it's something

that you would want anyone to suffer. i didn't know what channels there were be . i didn't channels there were be. i didn't think i'd be believed. i must have worried about stabbed and i'm five for eight. my instincts to sort of cover this up. i'm play to sort of cover this up. i'm play that was a mistake join me every sunday at 6 pm. on gb news the people's channel britain's news .

channel hello. channel her.good channel hello. good afternoon and welcome. this is gb views on tv onune welcome. this is gb views on tv online and on digital radio. i'm a queer and for the next 2 hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics, hitting the headlines. now, this show is all about opinion.