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channel hello. channel heu0.good channel hello. good afternoon and welcome. this is gb views on tv onune welcome. this is gb views on tv online and on digital radio. i'm a queer and for the next 2 hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics, hitting the headlines. now, this show is all about opinion. it's
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mine. it's theirs, and of course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing. and at times we will disagree. but no one be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me today, it's and author christine and also journalist and broadcaster danny kelly . before we get started kelly. before we get started let's get your latest news headunes. let's get your latest news headlines . good afternoon. and headlines. good afternoon. and 2 minutes past for aaron armstrong in, the gb newsroom. the prime minister says , he is willing to minister says, he is willing to discuss pay with union leaders as he admits the nhs is undeniably under enormous pressure. despite this, rishi sunak told the bbc he has a sense of optimism and, is confident the government can get to grips with the nhs crisis . to grips with the nhs crisis. the prime minister is calling on health to take bold and action following yesterday's talks and. a business as usual mindset will not fix the challenges. health minister maria caulfield told gb news the nhs is facing even more
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pressure this winter . we're pressure this winter. we're seeing a twin damage of both covid and flu. we're seeing over 50% increase in the number of in with flu at the moment. that has a knock on effect of beds aren't available for a&e which leads the long waits which you describe and it has a knock on effect on ambulances being stuck at trying to their patients at a&e trying to their patients . well, the president of the royal of nursing says the current crisis in a&e is much worse than before . the union has worse than before. the union has warned upcoming strikes will be the biggest ever in the industry if the prime minister doesn't negotiate on pay. we are at the end. general secretary has told rishi sunak to meet halfway to ensure the industrial action month doesn't go ahead. the union also says it's willing to consider a 10% pay rise rather than 19. well, shadow health secretary wes streeting told us they expect the government to sit down and, negotiate. i'm afraid i did have to say to the
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nurses , however much i totally nurses, however much i totally sympathise with their pay claim , we would i would call on, in all honesty to say if i was in government today, i'd be able to give the 19. but we did say we would sit down and negotiate. i think that's the government should do. labour has been urged to team up with the scottish national party to block the government's to implement minimum service during industrial action. the bill will be introduced in parliament shortly to ensure vital public services maintain a basic function during . the snp's function during. the snp's westminster stephen flynn has requested a meeting with sir keir starmer to discuss policy proposals . russia claims it's proposals. russia claims it's killed more than 600 ukrainian soldiers in their temporary housing in eastern ukraine. its ministry claims the missiles was revenge for. ukraine's attack on russian in a moscow controlled part of donetsk that killed at least 89 russian troops .
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least 89 russian troops. ukraine, though, has rejected moscow's claim as propaganda that further shelling did take place, though, in several parts of ukraine. shortly after russia ended itself declared ceasefire to mark christmas , prince harry to mark christmas, prince harry has been accused of making the invictus games a target for extremists by revealing in his memoir he killed 25 taliban fighters in afghanistan . the fighters in afghanistan. the former head of the royal navy. says the games due be held in dusseldorf in germany will now have serious security issues because of the connection to harry. he's the duke of sussex very meanwhile king charles has been seen out in public smiling for the first time since details from his son's have emerged . the from his son's have emerged. the king stopped to interact with crowds as he arrived for a church in norfolk this morning . church in norfolk this morning. it comes as a string . personal it comes as a string. personal revelations and accusations have been made public week with prince harry's book spare
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accidentally released ahead of schedule . spain one of princess schedule. spain one of princess diana's most famous dresses , is diana's most famous dresses, is set to go on sale at sotheby's in york later this month. the strapless evening dress is worth in the region of 66 t o £99000, in the region of 66 to £99000, although may sell for higher. diana first wore the dress for an official portrait with the then prince of wales in 1991 , then prince of wales in 1991, then prince of wales in 1991, the first ever rocket launch on uk soil takes place tomorrow evening. part owned richard branson, the virgin orbit, volvo will launch from a new facility in newquay in cornwall around 10:00 in the evening, although thatis 10:00 in the evening, although that is weather dependent . this that is weather dependent. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. but now let's return to nana akua akua .
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return to nana akua akua. it is fast approaching minutes after 4:00. this is on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now the nhs on average costs us around about thousand pounds per person . that is pounds per person. that is actually more expensive than any private cover i've ever paid . private cover i've ever paid. but what the hell am i paying for? but what the hell am i paying for.7 normally for covid it was about a four hour wait to see anyone. at a&e it was just about doable . during covid, the nhs doable. during covid, the nhs turned into, in my view, a sort of religion clapped on cue for the bravery of the hard work of the bravery of the hard work of the staff, which wholeheartedly participated in the slogan stay at home, protect the nhs , save at home, protect the nhs, save lives was everywhere even though i thought the nhs was meant, save me. but hey, hope i went along with it in good faith . along with it in good faith. thenit along with it in good faith. then it became the stay alert is pretty vague control the virus
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save lives . and then the last save lives. and then the last one which i remember was hands face space. the main goal of all our efforts was to ensure the nhs could cope, minimise our chance of getting sick, which makes sense, but was to make sure the nhs did not become overwhelmed . roll on to now . overwhelmed. roll on to now. unfortunately that tactic created just that and over whelmed nhs with a load of even sicker because they didn't get help. they took heed the advice dunng help. they took heed the advice during covid. so now when the nhs is fully functioning . good nhs is fully functioning. good luck if you want a doctor's appointment in the very near future. don't to a&e was the message recall? if you want an ambulance , there are huge ambulance, there are huge waiting times somewhere around 15 hours or a few days in some cases. and when you do get to hospital, if you haven't died waiting, you'll be backed up in a queue because social care is so badly organised that the well people who have nowhere to go are blocking the beds , the sick are blocking the beds, the sick people. coupled with the fact that those that work there going
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on strike for inflation busting pay on strike for inflation busting pay rises. so more of our money. all for the privilege . the false all for the privilege. the false belief that the nhs is at the point of need for everyone . it's point of need for everyone. it's not free and beginning to wonder what the hell i'm for. because whilst are huge waiting lists that , same whilst are huge waiting lists that, same hospital has a private that in many cases can you in days if you're prepared to pay . the observer revealed to pay. the observer revealed that nhs trusts with record and waiting lists are promoting quick and easy private health care services at their own hospitals, offering patients the chance to jump year long queues . hospitals are offering hip replacements a ten grand cataract surgery for just over 2000. and how never past a £2,500? an mri scans are offered somewhere between 300 to 400 quid. let's take east sussex healthcare, nhs , which has healthcare, nhs, which has thousands of patients waiting for diagnostic tests. it's fast access to scans through its
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private division , great western private division, great western hospitals, nhs and worcester is warning patients. the services are extremely busy whilst its profit division provides self payment treatment . self—pay payment treatment. self—pay treatment for those who don't want to wait for an nhs referral . the james paget university hospitals nhs trust in norfolk is advertising private services . its nhs website stating we provide highly experienced led services . without the waiting services. without the waiting list , it goes services. without the waiting list, it goes on. one woman on twitter wrote my 86 year old mum will have to two years on the nhs. all can see the same surgeon in the same hospital and be treated in two weeks for £1,200. how is that right? good question . now i have private question. now i have private medical cover, which has to be paid for. i also have to pay a proportion of my income to the nhs social care through my national insurance and pay for my prescriptions . the nhs is my prescriptions. the nhs is absolutely not free. the actual
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point of need. there's often no one fee for service that overwhelmed. it seems odd , but overwhelmed. it seems odd, but if you're prepared to pay more then you can be seen at the drop of a hat . before we get stuck of a hat. before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, would you forgive harry if he was your. prince harry if he was your. prince harry has made a of sensational claims in memoir spare look at his little puppy guys i feel i'll feel so bad from where he has launched scathing attacks on his brother, father and stepmother , duke of sussex stepmother, duke of sussex claimed that king charles failed to hug him after his mother, princess diana , tragically died princess diana, tragically died in a car crash back in 1997. and with all revelations, would you be able forgive him if he was your son. 450 it's time for world view. a russian danni armstrong will be in the studio to talk us through all the latest. the ukraine war. there are reports of russian attacks in several regions of ukraine
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despite putin's ceasefire pledge over orthodox christmas . then over orthodox christmas. then stay with me because it's five it's this week's outside . now it's this week's outside. now i'll be joined by a singer songwriter she's best first on the series seven of the x factor as part of cheryl cole's group , as part of cheryl cole's group, our special guest. we're also i was also a contestant , celebrity was also a contestant, celebrity big brother . anyone guess she big brother. anyone guess she might be . yes, that is on the might be. yes, that is on the way. the next time i'll me what you think on everything when discussing email gbviews@gbnews.uk . tweet me at . gbviews@gbnews.uk. tweet me at. gb news. write right. welcome back. let's get let's welcome again to my panel author and broadcaster christine hamilton , broadcaster christine hamilton, and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. welcome you both. nice to see you. good to be back. the dastardly duo, so did have never seen you since christmas . yes, i saw. i think christmas. yes, i saw. i think i'm right. i saw you on new
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year's eve. we spent 3 hours together. we did, didn't we've? i've seen you there for two unforgettable must. we've oh, forget you. show all the foot. well two and 3 hours respectively. new year's show . respectively. new year's show. just walk out now i'll be forgiven. all right? no, no . so forgiven. all right? no, no. so happy , new year, if anything, happy, new year, if anything, i think that's a bit passe now. i mean, let's get with life, right? so what do you think the nhs, christine, you want to do was it knee replacement. it's had. did you go private. i've two knees and a hip. so far yes i did go private and i don't see anything wrong going privately. it's regarded as queue jumping by those who disapprove of it. on the other hand , a knee costs on the other hand, a knee costs approximately 15,000. as you said, a costs approximately thousand. so that is 15 plus 12. that have had two knees. so that that money has gone in to health excuse me, health care has taken me out of needing an nhs. excuse me, health care has taken me out of needing an nhs . so in me out of needing an nhs. so in fact you're paying twice anybody who has private health care and
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l, who has private health care and i, i have no idea. of course , i i, i have no idea. of course, i would be astonished . rishi sunak would be astonished. rishi sunak does not have private health care. why doesn't he come out and admit it? because one of the things we need to be doing is more money into the health system. we need to be encouraging to take encouraging people to take health that the health insurance so that the moment i mean the moment all moment but i mean the moment all we're doing is pouring more money in and it's getting worse and worse. i mean, the and worse and worse. i mean, the system broken. it not system is broken. it is not working. we need a absolutely radical. meantime, every radical. in the meantime, every who can take out private insurance should be encouraged to could say the same to do so. i could say the same about chair. know a lot about your chair. i know a lot of times that that needs replacement because it doesn't all the last. in the last 12 months nearly 500,000 people have taken out private health care. and i on monday will be one of them because i worked for my wife and i it's listen affordability is it's all subjective but for me 60 quid a month or so is a and the reason that i am now going to sign up
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for 60 quid and you were astonished about how cheap that's a very good deal. yeah, i that's a very good deal. yeah, i that's the of basic and that's the sort of basic and bolts private health care bolts of private health care because you cannot on loads of things like insurance things just like insurance typically, or typically, but for or quid a month i'm to, if you like jump the queue now. i think the queue is different. i don't think that the same queues because . there the same queues because. there is a code of ethics that all hospitals surgeons because hospitals and surgeons because don't forget the surgeon that carried operation carried out knee operation probably worked on the nhs. absolutely. the day before. but there code conduct and there is a code conduct and ethics where healthcare cannot interrupt the public health care. well but in fact there's two sorts of private health care that's they and the big nhs hospital, which is one which i know is one the swindon, the great western, the one that you talked about that has its own private health care wing, called the child wing. but i actually go to a completely private hospital run by the bmi group. so that money is there as goes to the bmi. if you go to nhs in their private thing, then it does. all the money goes back in
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to help poor the people who can't afford. to the point of it is that that very nhs hospital will have its own trust. yes nhs will have its own trust. yes nhs will have its private arm? yes will take patients in and you can pay and my, my thoughts are i don't see why it's so easy. like if you just said, oh i, need a knee replacement, you'd be in a queue you in the nhs. but the nhs trust that as a private thing they can. and i think ultimately they they need to thinking slightly to start thinking slightly differently about this because i'm abou t £3,000 differently about this because i'm about £3,000 for it i'm paying about £3,000 for it through taxes more that through my taxes more than that for. can't get to see for. but i can't get to see doctor, i can't use the services yet if i pay a smaller proportion a month i can apply for medical cover and go straight there. it's but that's general taxation in a nutshell . general taxation in a nutshell. you may you may not have children, part my tax children, but part of my tax will go to education. who wants to go to school? no, that specifically national insurance. that is. no, understand . but that is. no, i understand. but it's another form it's just another form of taxation but goes taxation. it but it goes towards. but why can't they organise so there's organise it better so there's not this massive queue because if see people like that
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if they can see people like that so then they need to so quickly then they need to reorganise. but doesn't that point inefficiency end up in point to inefficiency end up in the it's way back in the nhs? and it's way back in 2011 when mr. cameron was , the 2011 when mr. cameron was, the prime minister, there was a dilnot report into health care which an in private know insurance recommended introduce lots of other european countries had sort half and half system of insurance and. you know they don't do any worse than we do. needless to say, cameron just ignored it. so we have got to grasp the nettle and do it. we need to look why hospitals are overburdened. oh, a number of reasons bring matron reasons you'll bring back matron , but they're not really overburdened because if they. if they were, then they wouldn't be able to suddenly put somebody in one their own wings the one of their own wings on the side them front of side and put them front of everybody there's got everybody else. there's got to be. not right. that's be. that's not right. and that's why people waiting for inefficiency or inefficiency. i always are always the reason people are waiting hospital if waiting on hospital floors, if you because there are you need is because there are a bed blocking well under and bed blocking well both under and there are more people if you look at the amount of people who live in this country compared to, five or ten years ago,
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to, say, five or ten years ago, it's up. what's seemingly it's gone up. what's seemingly is exponentially now all of these get sick every now these people get sick every now and again and hospitals haven't gotten boris johnson's gotten bigger. boris johnson's pledge on manifesto was pledge on the 2019 manifesto was to build 50 more. are they to build 50 more. where are they 4040 more hospitals? forgive me some of which would be new. some of which be enhanced. all my previous so i think previous grounds. so i think there's a population factor here. there is also the problem of two problems. first of all, we're getting older, we're living longer. also nowadays we actually ago you couldn't have a new knee. you couldn't avenue hip. you certainly couldn't have a new heart we're wanting a new heart now we're wanting all body replacement and all these body replacement and that is it's wonderful that that is it's wonderful advances in medicine and that is only going to get better or worse according to which side of the coin you at just finally you've had a number of these will replaced i've six will hips replaced. i've had six knees hips. you've got knees and two hips. you've got six go . she hasn't got six to six no go. she hasn't got six to knees and one hips operation to i don't suppose that's classified as an urgent operation i think at this point it was a knees and three hips
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whatever going to go into next yearif. whatever going to go into next year if . you just joined me this year if. you just joined me this is what live on tv online and on digital radio . now the digital radio. now the department of health and social care said nhs hospitals have always been able to generate small amounts of additional income by treating private , income by treating private, which can then be used to . which can then be used to. improve the services that nhs receive . so where life is just receive. so where life is just coming up to 19 minutes after 4:00, i'm not aware after the break it's time our great british debate this hour i'm asking would you forgive harry if was your son. prince harry if he was your son. prince harry has a scathing attack has launched a scathing attack on in memoir, on his family in his memoir, spare and revealed spare and that's revealed numerous sensational the duke of sussex that his father didn't talk in after his mother, princess diana, passed away with all these intimate details being thrown into the mix , into the thrown into the mix, into the pubuc thrown into the mix, into the public eye, would you be able to forgive your son if you if he were prince harry? some of your thoughts gbviews@gbnews.uk . thoughts gbviews@gbnews.uk. tweet me at gb news. i've also got a pull up right now asking that very question. would you forgive if he was your forgive harry if he was your
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son. cast your vote now. but first, short .
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break sir. good afternoon is fast 22 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel on a quick now before the break, we were discussing private health. let's see what you've been saying . andy says, you've been saying. andy says, i need a hip replacement replacement reversion operation . my consultant told me i'll be waiting years if the nhs doesn't prioritise reversion operations, but my consultant said if i wanted to private she would operate the same week in the same hospital , you see. it's same hospital, you see. it's just absolutely absurd , she just absolutely absurd, she says. what the nhs needs is an aduu says. what the nhs needs is an adult to let us know exactly how our money is spent as they have enough money already. i think it's probably an order actually not saying at all is an audit is
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my reading but i don't think i'd do as well. and he says this all started tony blair. he started an additional q he discovered waiting times . the wait was half waiting times. the wait was half but was in two places, so no time . smoke and mirrors. but was in two places, so no time . smoke and mirrors . yeah. time. smoke and mirrors. yeah. if you're waiting. i know my mum, she's for knee replacement for we have to sort that for one. we have to sort that out for a bit. so expensive. but right now. it is time for our great british this hour. i'm asking, harry asking, would you forgive harry if was your son? now sources if he was your son? now sources close to the king have suggested that charles has never given up hope reuniting with his hope of reuniting with his youngest son, harry. and this is despite the bombshells that he and harry and meghan, and meghan, harry and meghan, the netflix docu the dropped their netflix docu horror mentary which unlike call it they accused the royal family of being institutionally racist and featured mocking the way she curtsy to the late queen . and curtsy to the late queen. and some some may say she was being serious with that but didn't look that to me. harry's look like that to me. harry's got spare now he's got his new book spare now he's created tension the created further tension in the palace he's on talked about palace he's gone on talked about a things that don't want a few things that we don't want to about while having a to talk about while having a meal it's pointed mealtimes
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meal it's pointed out mealtimes some people and this comes as a source to prince told source to prince william told entertainment tonight he's privately and privately seething and devastated the new book, devastated by the new book, which physical which details a physical fight that and william had an that harry and william had an argument more. both argument over more. both themselves are to draw power tonight as harry interview with tom bradby as however the king appears to remain determined to bnng appears to remain determined to bring the family together , bring the family together, insist that harry and meghan will still invited to the coronation. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking would you forgive harry if was your son? joining me if he was your son? joining me now reality tv star and now is reality tv star and commentator kaur commentator narinder kaur commentator narinder kaur commentator sophie cochrane, a director of 26 close perry and former royal grant harold i couldn't resist grant. you know how it is. i want to start with you, grant because you know them both , you know, harry, you know, both, you know, harry, you know, in fact, you know them all. is charles like , too? it seems to charles like, too? it seems to want to forgive if was your son, would you ? you know, it's would you? you know, it's difficult. no, no i understand. a lot of people say that he shouldn't forgive because obviously what he has betrayed
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me through a lot of people, citizens together. but at the end of the day, he is his son. you know, his father is prince charles. king charles. and when you put all this to side, is still a family and the man that i know that i knew the king is somebody that got a compassionate care inside. and i think diana is something that you want to do. that's why? i think this is my view. you want to do. that's why? i think this is my view . that's think this is my view. that's why i think the palace hasn't actually anything. diana thing , actually anything. diana thing, what has been said so far because i believe that his father will be wanting to kind of the queen thing of never complain never explain probably possibly thinking let's possibly he's thinking let's just let the dust settle . just leave let the dust settle. but i don't i think it is always going to change how things are done going forward. i think his is the father son relationship . is the father son relationship. i'm hoping that that will be it's fixable. well, what do you what do you think, sophie do you think that if it was your son, would you him? i mean, i personally wouldn't i think it's really important. the people admit this isn't just admit that this isn't just a normal sibling, break—up sibling
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rivalry. this is one has rivalry. this is one that has got enormous media attention and where dragged his where harry has dragged his family think family for media. and i think charles has it very clear, charles has made it very clear, numerous he wishes to numerous that he wishes to reconcile then harry has reconcile with then harry has come that there is come out and said that there is no wish from the palace for reconciliation, is reconciliation, which is obviously i you know, obviously wrong. and i you know, it's obviously wrong. and i you know, wsfime obviously wrong. and i you know, it's time harry grows up a bit. this is nearly 40 old. this man is nearly 40 years old. he's child anymore, even he's not a child anymore, even though behave like though he loves to behave like a child. and i think the prince charles needs to do what nation wants to do and strip him of wants him to do and strip him of his and get of him his titles and get rid of him for nobody is shaking for good. nobody is shaking your head. sorry , you're shaking head. why sorry, you're shaking your head. why? she's just making the point. what? they finally the panel together. finally on the panel together. the question should he the question isn't should he should , should? and you should, should? and would you would you disown your son? he was harry. the question should be should harry forgive his cool dad and not sibling brother? i think i welcome you to. i think if i was exposed this institute of water is toxic, unethical and the way they deal with the media i mean chelsea so example anyone
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can write what want about you all day long and you cannot correct it. no, no harry is taking that narrative and he's the narrative of his own story and he needs to be told because they are a terrible family. well, some people might say this to meghan, harry. terrible. i is. what do you think? i think harry is a perfect advert for why you should die older men. but that's that's something completely different. and i. yeah okay, so prince harry, should he be forgiven? yes. on personal basis, he should be . personal basis, he should be. but on a constitu basis and on the basis in terms of monarchy and national security, stability , i'm afraid. no, i think that unfortunately, he's almost reached the point now where he has to be treated like the duke of windsor, who was only allowed back into the country for funerals after he abdicated because, in effect, prince has abdicated the most objective from his position, obviously not
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from his position, obviously not from from the crown, but you most people in this country on a case they might not be fanatical monarchists, they might not be waving a flag, but they like the fact that there and you know, they feel the stability that comes through constitution comes through the constitution the he's doing the monarchy. what he's doing now at meghan's instigation a witch because he's not, i think . okay, that's my personal opinion okay. but we commonly called meghan a witness. we also also she's not here to you know we should maybe we don't know what she relates to. i think meghan's wonderful i think meghan's wonderful i think meghan's wonderful i think meghan's wonderful and she's been through so much, harry and, meghan have been fed to wolves by that family and they have been telling their story secretly , plotting stories secretly, plotting stories against and telling lies against them and telling lies basically , you've told william , basically, you've told william, not defended harry at all. well, that's not quite true. actually, there have been quite a few statements have come out from the have defended both harry and meghan and i've counted about 17 so what do you make of so people what do you make of this i mean , should
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this i mean, should he be stripped of titles? i mean, stripped of his titles? i mean, i go as far as to even i would go as far as to even strip his birthright title, not call what do call him a prince? but what do you think. yeah, no, that's why i mean, i think do i think we should go that far? i mean, he's embarrassed himself. he's embarrassed himself. he's embarrassed and he's embarrassed his family and he's embarrassing country for multiple mean, multiple rounds. and i mean, he's comments about he's crass comments about obviously he's obviously number of taliban he's going lives going is putting people lives not in the armed not not just those in the armed not just those of family but the just those of his family but the rest british public as we rest the british public as we have coronation that's come up have a coronation that's come up he's big he's always going to be big safety issue danger. there is safety issue in danger. there is i sorry king charles to do i think sorry king charles to do what country want to do, what the country want him to do, strip him of this. it was i mean, his was hardly you mean, his book was hardly you know, mean, it was know, brilliant. i mean, it was just talk about his cross bit and paint us as something all and paint us as something we all must grow and grow. is must come to grow and grow. is this totally character this totally out of character for talking in this way for him to talking in this way and talking about stuff like that? i seriously, it was that? i mean, seriously, it was he that? you when you he like that? would you when you give no not all. not give him. no no, not at all. not at this is why i'm a bit at all. this is why i'm a bit shocked. everything every time something so just something happens. i so just mentioned some of those comments that i've been quite that come out. i've been quite
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shocked because it's not that . i shocked because it's not that. i mean, harry was very much a joke. practical was he would have used to see things that would show, but it was humorous, not this kind of thing. i'm i'm a bit surprised and shocked but very quickly removal to that very quickly the removal to that is possible that's the only thing that the king do. he could remove the hrh that is possible , which would then just revert back. , which would then just revert back . being , which would then just revert back. being henry sussex i suppose. or henry mountbatten—windsor that is mou ntbatten —wi ndsor that is possible. mountbatten—windsor that is possible. but again it depends how far the royal family, the king and the palace want to go. no, no, no. that's what i bring to intrude on this. so, you know what do you think? okay. that the first bit and painless thing, the killing they about the taliban first to sort of come on i mean seriously the taliban the life story is all about the fact that you child in pubuc about the fact that you child in public and he's he's talking about his whole life story he's his agenda his first britain being is so what are funny little stories when they specifically what about specific
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needs and the reference to the taliban and that is obviously thatis taliban and that is obviously that is that bad right. oh you think that's okay as well ? i think that's okay as well? i think that's okay as well? i think that's okay as well? i think that's okay. he lived that experience his story he's to tell story. and i listen tell his story. and i listen none i'm honest i people say he can't tell his he should remain dignified . it's not feasible for dignified. it's not feasible for harry remain dignified he to put his narrative and control because of the lies told about his poor and him. i don't hear the great british public we normally live under a dog. a dog . okay. can i just. sorry can i just say that it would suit . just say that it would suit. meghan down to the ground if they were stripped of their titles because. she cannot run for public office in the united states of america , which i states of america, which i believe has always been plan with her title . and she loves with her title. and she loves playing the victim so that she would have to not renounce her title but be stripped of them . title but be stripped of them. but can i just so it's. well, buckingham palace has to protect it himself so much. they must
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hold all those finishes. can i start? thank you. can i just say that buckingham palace must have protected him so much because the way he's coming across and the way he's coming across and the done, especially the things he's done, especially about approach of about his callous approach of talking the taking of talking about the taking of human, you know, i'd like prince harry, but it reminds me of harry, but it reminds me of harry enfield's team. nice. you . and harry enfield's team. nice. you. and lot to for she really has . can harry enfield's team. nice. you. and lot to for she really has. can i just say what william attacks harry are you condoning violence andifs harry are you condoning violence and it's about killing 25 blokes in the taliban and then is it pussyfooting around about a scrap with his brother come on sophie sophie his brother it's violent . sophie. sophie. yeah. i violent. sophie. sophie. yeah. i mean for the entire and the book has just been massive national embarrassment. we've got the most two most privileged people in, the entire world sitting , in, the entire world sitting, moaning about how bad their is. the fact of the matter is, we the taxpayer, have funded these says lords of privilege for a very long time, and here they
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are going around, the world making millions pals, telling the world how oppressed they are in the press to tell us something. i'm going to get going. i'm going to get a final word to grant. you've got to go back 10 seconds, 20 seconds, know, that grant. final know, give you that grant. final word i think i've i think word to you i think i've i think the thing is, at the end of the day, the family like the rest of us and we've got to let them do that obviously a family that obviously it's a family thing. they're a world thing. i know they're a world famous family who've let famous family who've got let them they've got to them resolve but they've got to sort well i wish they sort that out. well i wish they would keep it to themselves if they would would all out. they would would go all out. thank very much . linda, thank you very much. so, linda, good talk again. we'll say good to talk again. we'll say it. sophie cochrane and lois perry joining me on that one yeah perry joining me on that one year. so what you think with me on this is a good use of tv onune on this is a good use of tv online and on digital radio after the break we will continue with our great british debate and i'm asking would you forgive harry was your son even , harry if he was your son even, though? of my though? the thoughts of my panel though? the thoughts of my panel, and broadcaster panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. then stay with me because
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at this week's at 5:00, it's this week's outside. and i'll be joined by a singer and songwriter. and she's known stint on cbs seven known for a stint on cbs seven of the x factor as of show called groups zero cool. or shall we deal with i don't know what's wrong or is it else. i'll show you something else. yeah 713 special guest was also confessed on celebrity big brother, so appeared alongside one direction on the x factor . one direction on the x factor. can anyone guess who might be? stay tuned to find out, but first, let's get your latest news headlines headlines . it's news headlines headlines. it's 433. i'm aaron armstrong . the 433. i'm aaron armstrong. the newsroom, the prime minister has indicated he is willing to nurses demands for more money but has declined to rule out reopening this year's pay deal. speaking to the bbc, rishi sunak accepted the nhs is under enormous pressure but suggested much of it was down to the pandemic. is understood the strikes will continue to go ahead as planned by nurses and
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ambulance drivers . despite mr. ambulance drivers. despite mr. sunak's comments today. health minister maria caulfield told gb news the nhs is facing even more pressure this winter . seeing pressure this winter. seeing a twin demick of both covid and flu. we're seeing over 50% increase in the number of patients in with flu at the moment. that has a knock on effect if beds available for a&e, which leads to the long waits which you describe and has a knock on effect on ambulances stuck trying to their stuck at a&e trying to their patients . well, the president of patients. well, the president of the royal college of nursing says the current crisis in a&e is much than before. the unions warned that the upcoming strikes will be the biggest ever in the industry if the prime doesn't negotiate on pay . the rc irons negotiate on pay. the rc irons general secretary pat cullen has told rishi sunak meet her halfway to ensure the industrial action this month does not ahead.the action this month does not ahead. the union also it's willing to consider a 10% pay rise rather than 19% rise. shadow health secretary wes streeting told us they expect
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the government to sit down and negotiate. i'm afraid i did have to say to the nurses , however to say to the nurses, however much a totally sympathise with their pay claim. we would i would in all honesty commit to say if i was in government today. i'd be able to give the% but we did say we would sit and negotiate. i think that's what government should do . king government should do. king charles been seen out in public for the first time since. details emerged from his son. the duke of sussex memoir. the king stopped to interact with crowds as he arrived for a church service in norfolk this morning. it has come as a string of personal revelations and accusations have been made pubuc accusations have been made public week with prince harry's spare accident. the released early in spain . tv online on dab early in spain. tv online on dab plus radio , this is gb news. now plus radio, this is gb news. now it is back to nana akua .
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welcome back. this is a gb news on tv, online and on digital already. if you just join me , as already. if you just join me, as you just told me now, have you paid? you've missed 37 minutes, but it's okay because we've got loads more still to come. i'm not and it's time not square. and it's time now for debate hour. i'm for much debate this hour. i'm asking, you , harry, if he asking, would you, harry, if he was your son? sources close to king suggested he has king charles's suggested he has never hope of , never given up hope of, reuniting younger son. reuniting with his younger son. this is despite the bombshells harry and meghan recently dropped leaked extracts of harry's new spare, which was created within buckingham palace as harry detailed how he and william had physical fight over meghan . in 2019. nothing odd . i meghan. in 2019. nothing odd. i mean, brothers also always fight. don't more bombshells are expected to be dropped are his interview with tom bradby as however the king of remain determined to bring the family together as sources insist that
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harry meghan are still harry and meghan are still ianed harry and meghan are still invited to the coronation. so for the great british debate this asking you this hour asking would you forgive was your forgive harry if he was your son? let's my son? well, let's see what my panel of that. i'm joined panel make of that. i'm joined by and broadcaster by author and broadcaster hamilton also broadcaster hamilton and also broadcaster and journalist danny . kelly, i'm and journalist danny. kelly, i'm going to start with danny . going to start with you, danny. if any children of if you've got any children of you, none that you know of as what i would about me. but seriously , if he was your son. seriously, if he was your son. well, look, i think one thing which is quite is that understand that he lost his virginity to a slightly older cougar. virginity to a slightly older cougar . and virginity to a slightly older cougar. and christine, that's one of your locals, as i understand. so i we couple of miles from all the pubs she lives to may be closest to identify this cougar. i lives to may be closest to identify this cougar . i never identify this cougar. i never i thought my type i think it's unforgivable what he's done because a father can forgive a son if he's contrite but if he makes a mistake if he actually explains that he'll distance error of his ways. but but harry has done he's actually written a
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book. you know, it's not a spontaneous write it himself . spontaneous write it himself. just goes on and on, but he would have read the manuscript. he would have given it to. okay. so he's actually every word in that book . so it's not an error. that book. so it's not an error. it's not a mistake. so the onus is on harry, whose real name is harold, by the way i've only just henry henry. sorry, just know henry henry. sorry, henry. yeah, of course harold would sense, but it's his would make sense, but it's his fault. he needs to be contrite with his father and say, look, it's me who needs forgiveness. it's not the other way round . it's not the other way round. well, did you hear what lewis said? that he of reminds said? that he sort of reminds her that? tim. tim nice. her of that? tim. tim nice. but tim in harry enfield tim in that harry enfield sketch, ever see that one is sketch, you ever see that one is very possibly, yes, but it that clever you think that perhaps clever do you think that perhaps harry properly or harry didn't read it properly or something. do think something. oh, what do you think that perhaps they may have been, you oh well you know, somebody. oh well yeah, i you don't mean because it like look almost as it feels like look almost as though couldn't have just though he couldn't have just read manuscript. thick read the manuscript. he is thick anything too short plunks . anything too short plunks. listen, i tell you who is it? harry. i was always willing , be harry. i was always willing, be impartial about harry. but i'm
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sorry. piers morgan was right all those years ago. she was trousers. he's a weak man . she trousers. he's a weak man. she wears the trousers. she him what to say, what direction to go into. and he is just complying with all of that. i think you're giving her too much credit for his own. i mean, come on, he's the that got the frostbitten penis. he's the one that when do we need to know that. but he keeps even in that he's the one that's giving this information and one that appears to and he's the one that appears to have an axe grind, have quite an axe to grind, actually. so i wouldn't i wouldn't meghan. and wouldn't blame meghan. and i think culpable think everyone is culpable for their behaviour. how their own behaviour. well, how on it be down and on earth should it be down and blamed woman? i think blamed on the woman? i think that is to blame for that he is to blame for behaviour. christine. well, yes, of course is to blame for their own behaviour of course. everybody to everybody has to take responsibility what they responsibility for what they do and sign. and he, and for what they sign. and he, whether read every he whether he's read every word, he must read everywhere. must have read everywhere. what i what i find extraordinary what i extraordinary is that meghan as his wife , who presumably he is his wife, who presumably he is the most important man in her life , how she has allowed to put
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life, how she has allowed to put all that stuff out . why didn't all that stuff out. why didn't she say , are you really sure you she say, are you really sure you want to say that which is deeply hurtful to your father, deeply hurtful to your father, deeply hurtful . and do you really want hurtful. and do you really want to put all that personal information? i think you've got it wrong . she wants it to go it wrong. she wants it to go well. but this is what i'm saying. that's why i agree with you that is behind you that meghan is behind making, one who just making, is the one who is just sensible, would hang on a sensible, would say, hang on a minute i she wants to minute. i think she wants to ruin royal family because ruin the royal family because she does think she wants to ruin the. but don't think that the. but don't you think that perhaps same way? i perhaps maybe he the same way? i mean because that's what he's doing brainwashed. no, doing he's been brainwashed. no, no, think there's no, listen, i think there's a bloodline his family that bloodline with his family that should listen. she should honour and listen. she doesn't to family. so doesn't even to her family. so i don't it's a brainwash. don't believe it's a brainwash. they both complicit this and they are both complicit this and there's no way that you can blame a but i'd make it blame a purely but i'd make it i mean that's what came first the fall out with her family or the fallout family. well, fallout with his family. well, it her falling out with it was her falling out with a sizzling underneath for years. that's bubbling and that's been bubbling and sizzling i think, root sizzling for, i think, the root cause.i sizzling for, i think, the root cause. i blame them. but i think the root cause of harry. this is
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what has come out of what i have come out is, frankly, jealousy because he was this yeah. this has started when he a small has started when he was a small boy and he it and it's it must be very very hard to be second fiddle. i mean anne always had to play princess margaret found it very very difficult to play second fable it must be very difficult he to get difficult but he ought to get overit difficult but he ought to get over it by now if it's jealousy that doesn't excuse for what he's written. he's using it. but i don't think it's jealousy i go back my point. it's a rare. back to my point. it's a rare. no, i disagree. i i think she has poisoned the root of it. she's been the facilitator. she has been the person who's opened the gates to enable him to do it. and sometimes you it. yeah. and sometimes you often find in relationships to the one who often looks like they're bad one is usually they're the bad one is usually they're the bad one is usually the and one who is the pacifier and the one who is the pacifier and the one who is the bad one looks like the pacifier seen many pacifier because i've seen many situations where people say, oh, but so or too thin. but he's so quiet or too thin. so she's and it turns that that's not really the route. and i believe that he has had this he said, i mean , the clues he even said, i mean, the clues are there. the title is spare so
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that who's envious and that somebody who's envious and annoyed that he's the one annoyed upset that he's the one who sped through this, ruin his room, and then when even when he talks about cottage, which talks about that cottage, which is palace grounds , is on the palace grounds, because you'd think it would be big it's got palace in big because it's got palace in the and it's like you're the title and it's like you're in beautiful aeolian surrounds in a beautiful aeolian surrounds in a beautiful aeolian surrounds in nobody can get in a palace where nobody can get in. is a beautiful in. and this is a beautiful costumes and. you go to the tombs you'd never believe it. you believe that people you never believe that people like living a small like that living in such a small two i mean it only two bedroom. i mean it was only temporary, for heaven's sake i do. i think jealousy started it off. then arrived and off. and then meghan arrived and if only he married one of if only he had married one of his girlfriends. but his previous girlfriends. but the should king the question is, should king charles forgive him or will he forgive him? i think he will, because king charles is bigger man than his son. i never forget the prodigal son. i think he will in the fullness of time. but mean harry has got to enable to do that. harry has got to start to reign in. but there's a bit yet a four book agreement. so there's no books one is about it going to be meghan's diary. she's kept a diary so we've got
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meghan's diary to come one is going be meghan's going to be meghan's autobiography apparently so that but i prince charles king but i think prince charles king charles desperately to get his son i'm sure i'm sure he does i he's burnt his bridges and the british public i think prince charles or king charles is read in the room about how how much this has revolted speaking. oh the opinion on what if king charles gives an olive branch then that suggests the british pubuc then that suggests the british public that harry was right about what he's written . it about what he's written. it doesn't you know, it doesn't it doesn't you know, it doesn't it doesn't . whether that's doesn't. whether that's a perception and whether the perceptions now do not but i would think that prince charles often people will not think that king charles is saying that he endorses what harry said. they just think that king charles, a father and this is his daily son and he wants to the rift. do you think, william will forgive harry? really but smacks more really? does yeah that's why this is you this is a guy that's jumped out of helicopters, you know, fire machine guns. and now
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we know scandalously he's declared that he killed 25 enemy when he should never have done that. i mean that that is i mean is is an army trained guy is this is an army trained guy and if can't defend himself by smacking his all brother back smacking his all a brother back that that's a shame that think that's a shame he should smacked back and should have smacked him back and they make maybe it is they should make maybe if it is smacked them back they wouldn't have written up that have written up you know that his revelation having 25 his revelation about having 25 pieces chessboard pieces on the chessboard i understand when go into understand that when you go into of you have to learn of the forces you have to learn to the people to depersonalise the people you're fighting you have to go you're fighting you have to go you're hardly to farrakhan and say, am shooting a father, say, i am shooting a father, a brother, a son, somebody who's got a mortgage, somebody who you can't if if you pass. can't do it if you if you pass. so you've got to depersonalise . so you've got to depersonalise. but it in writing, you but to put it in writing, you know why if it was just a piece of my charity, you it's being ghostwritten by an american you know the are with know how obsessed the are with guns i think guns that's my well i think ghost writer has a lot to offer i think well that's what i because up until now he hasn't been clever enough. hang on a minute. that is not going on. i think so as well. i think that
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he's looked over it properly. i don't think he's understood implications of what is in there and think the ghost writer, whoever, whoever helped to give this has got to find. this book has got a lot to find. one of the very key, one of the awful, awful revelations awful, other awful revelations that to day that his father said to him day his his grandmother his grandfather, his grandmother died please make my last died, please don't make my last year a misery that is such a deeply personal tale to say. and he's actually will that in the book. oh, right. has harry got tell us all that. well anyway , tell us all that. well anyway, still not going to be still we're not going to be talking it later on this talking about it later on this evening, but this show is nothing without you. your nothing without you. and your views come great views as well come out great britain's your britain's voice, your opportunity the show opportunity to be on the show and us what you think about and tell us what you think about the topics discussing and the topics when discussing and joining today is adam joining me today is adam wilds smith there. wish we to smith is there. i wish we go to nonh smith is there. i wish we go to north fox. no that's going to i'm just going to die. i'm just going to turn. let's see. let's see adam, welcome to see see adam, adam, welcome to see you out of this. this is new adam do adam, steve, welcome hi, adam. so, adam . so what do you adam. so, adam. so what do you think of this whole saga, first of all? and if you a prince, dad, you be forgiving on
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dad, would you be forgiving on and of this ? i think it and all of this? i think it would be very difficult to forgive prince harry, especially after these latest egregious claims in book. i think it claims in his book. i think it might be the only way heal the rift in the royal family because if there is this isn't healed if there is if this isn't healed what could come next after i don't we expected , you don't think we expected, you know, some of the shock and claims have out and spared. claims have come out and spared. but thing about book but one thing about the book that gets is the fact that really gets me is the fact that really gets me is the fact that it just seems be this that it just seems to be this tale of a wealthy and privileged man complaining not man complaining that he's not even than he is. even more privileged than he is. we christine, about we heard christine, about princess princess princess diana and princess margaret how were the margaret and how they were the spurs that generation, but spurs and that generation, but they feel the to they didn't feel the need to write books of how unfair write these books of how unfair village, the way they just got on with it and supported sibling . that is a very good point that had made succinctly. had been made so succinctly. smith you very much for smith thank you very much for joining lovely to talk to joining me. lovely to talk to you. he's a great british voice for this hour. fabulous. well i'm asking you said is i'm asking that what you said is very true. i'm happy very true. well, i'm just happy that not privileged as that is not privileged as it could potentially once day. could be potentially once day. i'm been i'm asking lots of you been getting touch with getting in touch with your views, been asking
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views, have been asking whether king charles forgive harry says, i believe charles will i believe king charles will forgive i will leave forgive harry. i will leave the door for to return home door open for him to return home when and meghan and when he and meghan separate and divorce. see that, jackie divorce. i can see that, jackie says is william. need to says is not william. we need to worry it is the people who worry about it is the people who just how he just him explaining how he killed fighters. you killed 25 taliban fighters. you may up in international may end up in international court perhaps then see how court perhaps he then see how serious comments you serious his comments are you that compassion and that says compassion and forgiveness works both ways. if how feels been how he feels that he's been badly treated could show them badly treated he could show them forgiveness get his forgiveness and get on with his life he says that he wants life as he says that he wants a graham says sense at last danny is right the actress is behind all of this well he's right. what for once anyway , if he is what for once anyway, if he is right, she's probably not. but there's a pull up right now on twitter, the show asking, would you forgive harry if he was your son? 30.3% of you. so i don't know. the third is said yes and 69.7% of you said no . were you 69.7% of you said no. were you with me? i'm not a this is good on online and on digital radio as well. you can also download the gb news app to the break. it
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isfime the gb news app to the break. it is time for world view. i'll be getting the america reaction to the ongoing harry and meghan's has public opinion started turn for the couple across the atlantic but first a short .
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good afternoon it's just coming up to 7 minutes to 5:00 this is gb news where live on tv online on digital radio nana akua. and now it's time world view. and according to reports. there were russian attacks on several regions of ukraine. and that's despite vladimir putin's ceasefire pledge during the orthodox christmas. joining me the studio to talk about the is political commentator and russia expert danny armstrong . right expert danny armstrong. right danny so to me about this
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because i mean, first of all, russia calling for a ceasefire so they're in control. i mean, are they will is does very very interesting question whether they're in control or not vladimir putin put out he asked for a 36 hour ceasefire to celebrate christmas orthodox christmas celebration , something christmas celebration, something like midnight mass on january six. and then january 7th is christmas day. he keen to stress that it wasn't a de—escalation , that it wasn't a de—escalation, it was simply a chance for people to observe orthodox christmas as there are a lot of pro—russians in eastern ukraine. but a bit of chronology of what's happened there, a new year's eve or new year's day, rather. it was one minute past midnight by ukrainian soldiers that around 400 russian that killed around 400 russian troops . then vladimir putin troops. then vladimir putin comes out and says he wants a 36 hour ceasefire well, then we're having reports russia has bombed the town of kramatorsk in donetsk, which is, of course , donetsk, which is, of course, controlled by proxy, russian
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troops. russia says around about 600 troops have died in that attack . ukraine disputes that attack. ukraine disputes that number. my guess is that as soon as russia had that information of where the ukrainians housed in a housing accommodation , they in a housing accommodation, they thought it was with striking because new is actually the biggest celebration over in the orthodox christian country. so my guess is that it was just too much of a good opportunity to turn down so that was russia killing . yes, that was that was killing. yes, that was that was that was russia targeting ukrainians? well mean this this ceasefire the ukrainian said this is just a ruse. this is just to stop our advance is in the east you can look at it that way my inkling would be that in revenge and that's what it's out of my old stomping russia today the russian media is that it's a revenge attack for . that new revenge attack for. that new year's day attack from the ukrainians. that's what what i would say, however, in ukraine we are seeing now suddenly the people that i'm speaking to on the ground is that rather than students celebrating christmas
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on january 7th, people are saying, we want to celebrate like devils do . we don't want to like devils do. we don't want to celebrate the holidays where. there a place satan is there is a place where satan is in the church and that's called the russian orthodox church. and now they're celebrating on the 25th. lived in 25th. no, i've lived in a country a russian country that's a russian orthodox orthodox eastern country. for the best part , a country. for the best part, a decade and december 25th is just another day . new year's day another day. new year's day takes precedence . then january takes precedence. then january 7th is christmas. now, my inkung 7th is christmas. now, my inkling week is this all came about this attack from russia on ukrainian troops run about they say 600 have been killed but it was in revenge for that attack by a ukrainian russian soldiers on that one minute past midnight. and you say, wow, so the ceasefire, i mean obviously it doesn't sound like anyone's going to honour that at all and it look like it. no and it doesn't look like it. no and briefly, in terms of the regions now that have been attacked in so is the main so where where is the main fighting well, the main fighting now? well, the main fighting now? well, the main fighting basements fighting has been in basements in. ukraine, of course, there is still shelling going on. the main firing along the along the
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contact line was was in danger on eleanor in eastern ukraine and the two people's republic said that russia claims and recognised the independence of a runabout. i think it was two days before the invasion. so there's still a lot of fighting on this is where the attacks that i've just mentioned have taken place and that's where we going to see the heavy fighting. i would suggest maybe it would take up around february. so just around year after this invasion was launched, this needs to stop. it really just any. armstrong, thank you very much. it's a political commentator and russia expert. let's travel over to the united states. we're going to have a with going to have a chat with the host politics people host of the politics people podcast, duddridge, getting podcast, paul duddridge, getting good at saying that now, right , good at saying that now, right, i suppose. good to see you , i suppose. good to see you, friend. so there's a lot going on, but have happy new go. so what's going on then? harry and meghan? what is the perspective america? what what is your general fear the americans are thinking? i mean, are they with media? without them? what's
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going on? well, just as a starting . yeah. without him , starting. yeah. without him, they we talk before christmas about like no, it's all dissolving all the support is dissipating now. it's done even don lemon , the clinton news don lemon, the clinton news network as , even come out and network as, even come out and called him tacky for dirty laundry in public. if harry ever has this book read out loud to him , he's going to be livid him, he's going to be livid because that ghost—writer have it in for him because he comes out of it really badly. it in for him because he comes out of it really badly . there's out of it really badly. there's a headline i saw a headline this morning preparing for this that the person coming out best from this is the prince of wales so wills coming out of this better record thing to american headune record thing to american headline writers the air is the of the book not the spare is what they've said so to give him his due he's got americans about a book which is kind of a feat in itself so that's impressive but it's getting a bigger reaction than the netflix but they really have i think jumped
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they really have i think jumped the shark is the expression they they bitten off more than can chew here this is not going that this is not an escalation their attempt at world power they are beginning to look even americans ridiculous now . wow and the ridiculous now. wow and the thing is people are talking about it but it doesn't mean they're going to buy the book, does it? i mean, it doesn't does it. well to be fair. to be fair, that, you know, the sales predictions look really in predictions look really good in the us. is i mean, it is the us. this is i mean, it is number one on amazon. i think it's number one on barnes and noble. so sales look good at noble. so the sales look good at this booksellers are this point. and booksellers are reporting sustains reporting whether that sustains because again, typically with them. there's a flash in the pan element. so i think this might be think you might be you might be think you might be you might be seeing this just being a very short term . you can't argue with short term. you can't argue with the press that they've had. that's all anybody's talking about. drive future about. so that will drive future sales but don't think it's a sales. but i don't think it's a sustainable and again once once copies are out and people are talking about it in december
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rating it without having to buy it, i can't people actually passing with money and again amazon got or thing amazon have got that or thing where people you know part with dollars actually read it. dollars to actually read it. well listen we've got we got about a minute so what about five and he's planning to run in 2024 really covered yeah you love biden well you say you say run he's he's planning to former vice is planning to vice president is planning to stumble think in 2024 but yes stumble i think in 2024 but yes word coming out nobody can believe this. the word coming out of the white house is that he is planning to his intentions for a run for the he he wants to it this time. this is the thing he wants. know what that feels like. so going to throw his hat in the ring, somebody else will have to pick it up, but he's going to throw hat in the ring for 2024. probably in february. they reckon . so that's i mean, they reckon. so that's i mean, look , that's something to look look, that's something to look forward to. we're all better and happier and safer , better off happier and safer, better off with former vice president biden in the white. well, it'll be almost 100 then. so wireless and
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paul almost 100 then. so wireless and paul, thank you very much for joining us. let's pull it out which is the host of the politics people podcast. this is gb views nana akua. more to come in next hour . in the next hour. it is a 5:00 where live on tv onune it is a 5:00 where live on tv online and on digital radio for the next hour, me and my panel, we're taking on some the big topics hitting the headlines right on the way. i'll be joined by a special celebrity guest. now they appeared in the x factor . and they've also been on factor. and they've also been on celebrity brother. but who are they for the great? but just to make this ours. all i'm asking should not be allowed second jobs. let's your jobs. but first let's get your latest headlines headlines . latest is headlines headlines. good afternoon it's 5:00. i'm ryan. i'm strong in the gb newsroom. the prime minister has indicated he is willing to address nurses demands for more money and declined to rule out
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reopening this year's pay deal. speaking to the bbc, rishi sunak accepted the nhs is under enormous pressure but suggested of that was down to the pandemic. it's understood. strikes will continue to go ahead as planned , despite mr. ahead as planned, despite mr. sunak's comments today. earlier, the royal of nursing general secretary pat cullen urged downing street to meet union halfway in its negotiations and health secretary wes streeting told us the government should negotiate. i'm afraid i did have to say to the nurses. however much totally sympathise with their pay claim. we would. i would in all honesty commit to say if i was in government today, i'd be able to give the % today, i'd be able to give the% but we did say we would sit down and negotiate. i think that's what government should do. yes wes streeting now, meanwhile, health minister maria caulfield told gb news she agrees with the prime minister that the nhs is facing more pressure this winter. is seeing twin demick of both covid and flu we're seeing
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over 50% increase the number over 50% increase in the number of in with flu at the moment. that has a knock on effect if beds aren't available a&e, beds aren't available for a&e, which leads to the waits which leads to the long waits which leads to the long waits which you describe and has a knock on on ambulances knock on effect on ambulances stuck trying to their stuck at a&e trying to their patients . labour's been urged to patients. labour's been urged to team up with the scottish national party to block government's plans to implement minimum levels of service during industrial action. the bill will be introduced shortly in parliament to ensure vital services maintain a basic function during strikes. the snp's westminster leader, stephen flynn has requested a meeting sir keir starmer to discuss proposals . russia claims discuss proposals. russia claims it's killed more than 600 ukrainian soldiers in their temporary housing in a in eastern ukraine. its ministry says the was revenge for ukraine's on russian barracks a moscow controlled part of donetsk that killed at least 89. russian troops on new year's eve . russia, though, has yet to
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provide evidence of the attack. ukraine has rejected moscow's claim as propaganda . further claim as propaganda. further shelling took place in several parts of though shortly after russia ended its self—declared ceasefire to mark orthodox christmas . ceasefire to mark orthodox christmas. china has reopened its borders for the first time in three years after imposing strict restrictions at the beginning of the pandemic. incoming travellers will no longer need to quarantine , but longer need to quarantine, but will still need proof of a negative pcr test taken within 48 hours of travelling. china recently dismantled its zero covid policy, which included of the tightest restrictions , the tightest restrictions, including frequent testing and mass lockdowns, some due . 2 mass lockdowns, some due. 2 billion trips are expected for chinese new year this month . chinese new year this month. hundreds of people been protesting in central london in solidarity with anti—government taking place in iran. protesters marched through trafalgar square earlier chanting justice for iran. it follows execution of
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two men yesterday . they were two men yesterday. they were accused of killing a member of the security forces during a wave of demonstrations in the wake of the death of masa , the wake of the death of masa, the 22 year old woman who died in september. human rights organisations have described the trial of the two men as a sham. prince harry has been accused of making the invictus games, a target for extremists, by revealing his memoir that he killed 25 taliban fighters in afghanistan . the former head of afghanistan. the former head of the royal navy says the games due to be held in dusseldorf in germany will not have serious security because of the to harry. he called duke very stupid . meanwhile king charles stupid. meanwhile king charles has been seen in public for the first time since from his son's memoir emerged . the king stopped memoir emerged. the king stopped to interact crowds as he arrived for a church service , norfolk for a church service, norfolk this morning. it does come as a
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string of personal revelations and accusations have been made pubuc and accusations have been made public this week with . prince public this week with. prince harry's book spare exit entry reached ahead of released ahead of in spain and the first ever rocket launch on uk soil. we'll take place tomorrow evening part by richard branson, the virgin orbit bobo will launch from a new facility in newquay in cornwall around 10 pm, depending on the weather . cornwall around 10 pm, depending on the weather. this is we will bring you more as it but now back to nana . but now back to nana. where good afternoon is just coming out a 6 minutes after 5:00. this is gb views on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next hour me my panel will be taking on some of the big topics, hitting the
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headunes the big topics, hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating. discussing and times we will discussing and at times we will disagree. no will be disagree. but no will be cancelled. so joining me today is author and broadcaster christine hamilton also broadcast and journalist danny kelly . still to come, each kelly. still to come, each sunday at, 5:00, i'm joined by a celebrity, a mp or somebody who had an extreme to interesting career. let's take a look. life after the job. we talk high stakes learned and what stakes lessons learned and what comes outside in comes next on the outside in this week , i'll joined by this week, i'll be joined by a singer and songwriter. now she is best known for her stint on series of the x factor . as is best known for her stint on series of the x factor. as part of cheryl cole's cheryl tweedy, also on the scene as mrs. whatever names. our special guest is also a contestant on celebrity big brother. she appeared on the x factor alongside one direction. she's now turned her attention to law . but as anyone who to see is she'll be joining me in a couple of moments time. keep guessing then up, the great then coming up, the great british this hour. british debate this hour. i'm asking, should employees be allowed second to kiss has
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allowed second jobs to kiss has said would back a ban , said that he would back a ban, employees allowed a second employees being allowed a second job few exceptions. this job with a few exceptions. this comes after it emerged the tory mp earned comes after it emerged the tory mp earne d £50 million since the mp earned £50 million since the 2019 election. outside of the commons. is this fair? should there be a ban on employees making more, more, more money? and i'll be picking apart the prince harry drama with all the sensation and revelations about the royal family from its memoir fair. are you starting feel sorry for the prince? should be more sympathetic towards even with your thoughts. gb views activity still check or tweet me at . gb news. activity still check or tweet me at. gb news. right right. so it's now time for this week's. now lady, she's a singer and songwriter. she became famous . songwriter. she became famous. she popped up on our screens on x factor in 2010. born in january 1986, a very young hi 96. i can remember back in the
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day she started her career in 2009 when appearing on online reality tv so—called green eyed world. now she's travelled to america and in pursuit of getting a record label deal and has toured with the likes of e 17 and the abraham the lead recently didn't even himself over his comments. i don't know what happened to me. she even performed socialite paris hilton for socialite paris hilton with fellow x factor contestant. she's now turned our attention to law. but who is cheap ? well, to law. but who is cheap? well, she is one and only. katie waissel . katie, welcome. she waissel. katie, welcome. she joins now in the studio. welcome although totally different from when you did x factor. oh, my goodness. yeah the hair. right. know yeah. big blonde hair and nuts that you mentioned in that in intro with the green eyed world i took part in prior to the x factor and was such an incredible experience , part of incredible experience, part of the green eyed world. it was the first time that youtube and facebook integrated like the
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cross of sharing videos , and cross of sharing videos, and then the tour with e 17 and andy abraham's all prior the big men. oh yeah , yeah. a very, very oh yeah, yeah. a very, very point that take me back. feeling very nostalgic before what have you only clips of anything from x factor from that just in case because you might be listening watching the night we don't remember how well. well i can show little of what katie show you a little of what katie looked before you can see if looked not before you can see if you're listening on radio, you won't get the benefit of this. but you will get the benefit of katie. but as your own radio she's got curly has she sort of looks madonna back in looks kind like madonna back in the she was singing the day when she was singing things borderline getting the day when she was singing thithe borderline getting the day when she was singing thithe groove rderline getting the day when she was singing thithe groove thatine getting the day when she was singing thithe groove that kind etting the day when she was singing thithe groove that kind ofing the day when she was singing thithe groove that kind of look to the groove that kind of look as blonde or marilyn monroe sort of started out and yeah that it's a fashion show now this show tweet you was it like then and what was your motivation then to do that obviously? well, domination. get yourself out there. well , it's there. oh, well, it's interesting because a lot of people ask me that and with i
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guess like the idea people go on a show like that in order to put themselves out there for. me personally , looking back on it, personally, looking back on it, it wasn't show that i really had initial first choice to go and take part on having all of all of that previous experience that listed in the intro. one within ourselves. why why would i go on a show like that how however, you know, looking back at that audition you just played, it was incredibly daunting and there's so many people in that audience, but a lot happens prior to that very of pre audition rounds . and very of pre audition rounds. and it's quite funny actually when i was stopped i wanted to sing the song at last and the comments, well, we don't want to hear you sing that. i remember that because that was the audition where you went along and you
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sang.i where you went along and you sang. i think it was a framework travel. and then then travel. yeah. and then they then simon went, no that didn't sound like you really i mean , like you. you really i mean, think have some audio that think we do have some audio that we hear. think we've got we could hear. i think we've got this off your instagram or something. let's have quick something. let's have a quick listen want give listen because we want to give the benefit those who are the benefit for those who are listening radio. have listening on radio. have a listen. this is katie. where it didn't go way finger down and good and good . yeah i could sort good and good. yeah i could sort of slightly sing like but mine would be more of a drunken warble her. so do you still sing then? because you're not singing anymore ? that's another really anymore? that's another really good question . it took me a long good question. it took me a long time kind of refine my confidence and especially to put stuff social media. and i am a classically trained and play guitar . and classically trained and play guitar. and my son, who's four and a half, he is so into the i
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can't allow my past trauma to affect his creativity . and so, affect his creativity. and so, you know, i like i've been working on, you know , he's so working on, you know, he's so comfortable with it. so do i sing with him. we make fun, little up. i think i wrote a chicken pox song once when he was like seven. but yeah , we're was like seven. but yeah, we're definitely creative together , definitely creative together, so. x—factor then. i mean , in so. x—factor then. i mean, in a nutshell then. so after the x—factor , did you, in your mind x—factor, did you, in your mind leave feeling good about it? and what was your feeling of it? i was relieved to get out to, be honest. and then i went back to the united states because i was very much afraid for life through some of the experiences that would heavily publicised, evenin that would heavily publicised, even in the uk press and media with death threats really . yeah, with death threats really. yeah, it was very frightening and you know, exactly like handed security or or post—show , you .
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security or or post—show, you. you just left that. why were you send death threats? is it because people just didn't want you to win or just. i don't you to win orjust. i don't know. it's very odd that people very, very, very interested when they're behind a keyboard and you actually them. but you can't actually see them. but i the sort now i mean, the law sort of now catching up with the online age a little bit . one would hope. a little bit. one would hope. but creative industry but in the creative industry sector and this is one of what what this is the main reason why i to do my lord grieve i chose to do my lord grieve recently is because aren't recently is because there aren't really any current and that recently is because there aren't really (that urrent and that recently is because there aren't really (that urrerenforcement�*nat means that law enforcement actually enforce or have done in my personal opinion, i think in normal placement like impartiality when people the industry are reporting , you industry are reporting, you know, potential alleged . crimes know, potential alleged. crimes that they have been victim of. so it's something that i'm really heavily on in in not normally a conversation about it, but bring awareness to people that just because
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somebody is show biz, it doesn't mean that things can't or haven't or shouldn't have happened , shouldn't, etc. well, happened, shouldn't, etc. well, you said you to things that were heavily publicised . so what can heavily publicised. so what can you tell us about what publicised? because obviously it's if it's widely known, then oh, i mean, some of my threats that i had experienced as somebody threatened to pour acid over. somebody threatened to pour acid over . oh, god , yeah, yeah, somebody threatened to pour acid over. oh, god , yeah, yeah, yeah. over. oh, god, yeah, yeah, yeah. we're going the detail as i hear you now . so these are the sort you now. so these are the sort of things. so what was publicised, the kind of threats that you see and that's why you went to law? yeah i mean, went to law? well, yeah i mean, i actually called back to i was actually called back to take part in 2014. i think it was of a comeback show . and was of a comeback show. and again, something that i was extremely hesitant to do . but extremely hesitant to do. but when you're in that situation with those types of people that the head of an industry that you're working so tremendously hard to navigate, the regrowth of one's credibility you know,
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what do you do you're stuck between a rock and a hard place and. yeah so i came back to the uk took in the 2014 comeback special which led . to the events special which led. to the events that you know i can't really i shouldn't speak publicly on at the moment due to the ongoing investigation etc. but yeah a nutshell everything that had experienced all the way through until thousand and 15, i cannot icannot until thousand and 15, i cannot i cannot unknow and i feel like i cannot unknow and i feel like i personally have a responsibility to the next generation that want to get into this industry whether it's musically or whatever encompassing in the creative sector that it is to do so and fascinating and all power to you know i know you've to thank you work with the charity. well yeah so i set up my charities called our founder mission and it stands for overseeing the welfare, human rights and
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liberty and the creative industry sector. i mean, i'm still in the process it's a one i'm a one man band at the moment. that's to provide legal support, mental health support for victims coming forward that had to hold . and then also, you had to hold. and then also, you know, a environment for people that a champion championing change and for us to come together and really work united in doing we can to make that change happen . wow. well, change happen. wow. well, listen, you absolutely inspiration. do you have any from x—factor? do you have any regrets ? all oh, oh, no, not regrets? all oh, oh, no, not really because i try not to look back at things. i have that mentality of you've just got to turn into medicine and nobody can control you in that way. well, they can't control me anymore and i just have to positively look to the future on behalf of my son, everybody else. why did you come then? an x did you? seven, seven the way.
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yeah, that's pretty isn't it. i was just relieved i just went really the whole hospital i take your degree or whatever it is. but the last just want to get out and has it in terms of your music career you like to go back to that are you still doing it. no music always be in my bones. that's just who i no music always be in my bones. that'sjust who i am. no music always be in my bones. that's just who i am. and now in the i guess like my son, i said he loves music . never say never he loves music. never say never with things . but as a songwriter with things. but as a songwriter , it's always fun to create little , little songs with him. little, little songs with him. but i don't know. who knows? i think one one thing at a time. i got to be batman first instant batman. so the industry says people want to find out more about your does it have a website or some of the. yes, absolutely. it's all foundation dotcom, a lot of spelt o, w h foundation dot . well, listen, foundation dot. well, listen, kate, it is lovely to you. i wish you all the best, too. thank so much. inspirational lady. that's katie russell. she was on the x factor. she's now
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become she's studying . i mean, become she's studying. i mean, she's a bit of an inspiration . she's a bit of an inspiration. and so if you want to get in touch, find charity right touch, find her charity right there the way. great british there the way. the great british debate hour i'm should mpc debate this hour i'm should mpc be allowed second jobs sir keir starmer said he back a ban starmer said he would back a ban on being allowed them on muslims being allowed them with exceptions this with a few exceptions and this comes emerged that comes after it emerged that tory mp and yes 15 million since the two 2019 elections that was outside their earnings in the commons is that right? that's on the way after this this .
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good afternoon . this is coming good afternoon. this is coming up to 21 minutes after 5:00. this is gb views on tv, online and on digital radio. we are the people's channel. i'm not a square now. it's time for our great british debate. this out. and i'm asking, should employees allowed second jobs? today labour leader sir keir starmer defended shadow foreign
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secretary david lammy, earning a vast of £200,000 from second jobs during this parliament. now this is despite starmer and the end of their labour review into the constitution of the uk , the constitution of the uk, recommending that banning of second jobs following exemption for employees of professional such as doctors and, lawyers. and there's nothing quite like being a hypocrite, is there? and comes as figures from westminster reveal how much has been earned by mp during the course this parliament. so despite that the fact that each mp earns a baseline salary of just over mp earns a baseline salary of just ove r £84,000, a whopping just over £84,000, a whopping £70.1 million has been earned. in addition to mp salary since december 2019, with around two thirds of the money they pocketed only 20 mps and just over pocketed only 20 mps and just ove r £15 million was earned by over £15 million was earned by tory mps. the mp , who had tory mps. the mp, who had pocketed the most since thousand and 19, is former theresa may
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now she has earned . just over now she has earned. just over £25 million so far. the great £2.5 million so far. the great british debate this i'm asking should not be allowed second jobs. joining me now is former editor of the labour is peter edwards, political commentator ibrahim, former mep and businessman ben habeeb and former brexit party mep and political commentator belinda lucy . welcome to both of you. lucy. welcome to both of you. well i got to start with you, beunda well i got to start with you, belinda , because especially with belinda, because especially with your background , but what do you your background, but what do you think i make of the idea that mp should be allowed have this second income? well i really welcome this report into mp's second jobs. i think is absolutely key. it's one of the reasons i'm so grateful to be out of the eu because the amount of money that was was lost and, misused and also dodgy corruption going on. and we don't to worry about it anymore so we can focus our attention entirely . our national entirely. our national parliament, which is entirely.
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right. so i think the transparency is great. they should have everything very clearly in view for the whole pubuc clearly in view for the whole public of where they get their money from. it's you know, that you have transparency when there's so much money flowing through the seat of power and into politics. however, i would say i really support second jobs for the following reasons . one, for the following reasons. one, it gives mps much perspective talking certain issues in parliament. you know, the westminster bubble when you are just living in that building and your only life is politics, can really disconnect you from men and women on the ground. so there are nurses and doctors , there are nurses and doctors, lawyers in parliament and people with all the very interesting jobs. and secondly, being politician is a very fickle job. you don't know when you're going to be. you out on your tail. you know , on someone's going to call know, on someone's going to call a election and suddenly be a snap election and suddenly be out of so it's fair that out of a job. so it's fair that they keep perhaps some going in a job where they can go back to if they get kicked out of their
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own . so, so, so, so, so . so own. so, so, so, so, so. so you'd say doctors, dentists, people like. but the others? no, not. no, no, i. everybody yes, there is a 100% transparency. see, they should should be allowed to second they should be allowed to second they should be allowed to second job as long as that being an mp doesn't become their side job, as long as the constituents are. well, let me ask let me ask let me ask reem that, reem. do you think they should be allowed second jobs? i think they should be lost control the blenders right on control of the blenders right on that think that, you that side. so i think that, you know, we know, fundamentally, we shouldn't restricting what shouldn't be restricting what members of parliament do outside of mean, you know, we of that. i mean, we you know, we see party always see labour party always complaining but then complaining about mp, but then when to net money when they try to net money themselves outside being and themselves outside of being and then they're also upset about. so think we can't really win . so i think we can't really win. i that belinda is right on i think that belinda is right on that think that wouldn't be that i think that wouldn't be able themselves. i'm able to work for themselves. i'm sorry that they have that sort of extra experience . there's of extra experience. there's multiple members of parliament are also doctors and nurses that are also doctors and nurses that are on the side as well. and it means they have that real
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experience but also not just pubuc experience but also not just public servants, people that are in business. they understand . in business. they understand. yeah, but but hold on yeah, but but but hold on a minute hang minute. doesn't minute hang on a minute. doesn't that mean that they they're serving two masters then you could conflict could have a conflict of interest even declare interest even if they declare those and the figures those interests and the figures so far 17 million. i mean don't like sound of ben, to like the sound of it, ben, to be. it's just going be a be. well, it's just going be a very rare occasion on which . i'm very rare occasion on which. i'm going disagree with belinda going to disagree with belinda i think should be prohibited . think it should be prohibited. they're having second jobs. we've seen repeated how employees of abuse that position as and indeed as ministers of state and secretaries of state as a result of outside interests with other axes to grind, not just while they're in office , just while they're in office, but actually even after they've left office. i think we need to look at what they do after leave office. very, very. the problem think with belinda and reams is that there have to be a lot of as long as as long as i think beunda as long as as long as i think belinda used that expression a couple of times, you know in in
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her in a justification of them having jobs and that's the issue . you have to then start delving deeply into what these employees up to. and that's not that's not available to the electorate at large and we've got so many samples already of where the system has been abused that i think the correct and right way to do it and by the way this this applies very largely right across the private sector is for people only be allowed to have one job at a time. my employment contract with my company prohibits me from having outside interest unless i explicit permission from the board . but permission from the board. but we are of course a private entity. the other point i'd make andifs entity. the other point i'd make and it's a very powerful point made by belinda i think should have broader experience of the real and i completely endorse that but that experience should before they get into parliament they take in into parliament with them you know a broad experience of the services professionals business, so on. well, let's get peter . peter, well, let's get peter. peter, what do you think ? well, i think
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what do you think? well, i think the net is drawn widely and loosely at the moment. and should be drawn a lot more tightly. so example, there was a report, i think might have been as far back as 2009 which said the mp is shouldn't allowed the mp is shouldn't be allowed to advice on parliamentary to give advice on parliamentary strategies because there's a clear conflict between being a member of parliament and then advising businesses. member of parliament and then advising businesses . and it advising businesses. and it tends to be largely one advising businesses on how to navigate parliament. and of course there are outside jobs within the rules where i think we can tie it up and then there's breaches of the rules like they are in practise in a fair and which which was very serious one. i think there is a case allowing some outside work if . there's some outside work if. there's demonstrable impact on public andifs demonstrable impact on public and it's not all about self—enrichment at but what i'd say is the net drawn very, very loosely . and that's what leads loosely. and that's what leads to public is an mp is paid 85 grand which is a lot anyway and then a several hundred to a million. their focus is on the
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million, not on the 85 k and representing all their who voted for them. yeah and belinda, you kind of said that it's good that they because it's a fickle profession and they could be out of a job. you could say that about any job, any job is a fickle profession. this is a fickle profession. this is a fickle profession. this is a fickle profession. and what you do is, i think, a profession. well, why shouldn't they get extra plus extra insurance plus 80 something don't forget, something grant, don't forget, it's that got it's not just that they've got expenses they've got loads of things. the salary probably things. the salary is probably neare they just nearer £120,000. why they just live on that? that's more than enough. you know what i think since since the brexit vote and i understand why people think this but there there is a sort conspiracy theory that all politicians are a little bit bent and a little bit and that they're all going to be open to this sort of dodgy business. and i really don't think that's true i really don't think that's true i think the very few that abuse their positions of power the very few that breach the rules like going partisan, you know , like going partisan, you know, they get they get either sacked , they resign and that's what
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happens. but it's a tiny minority. i genuinely most employees even who i violently disagree with , are in it because disagree with, are in it because they want to do good. i think it's unrealistic to expect the brightest and the best of what britain cannot . i know where britain cannot. i know where they could earn a salary 500 grand. why not? and i think they should be to continue something that gives them security when they get, you know , the next they get, you know, the next election then and what does that mean? what they earn as an mp was secretary of state, which is different. of course, they get more if they if they if they have ministerial office. i think what they earn can be up for debate and maybe they should be paid more maybe that we need to reform the whole basis on which they perhaps hold they remunerated perhaps hold them on promises made them to account on promises made against delivered . against remuneration delivered. but really firmly believe but i really firmly believe there should be no interest because then you get into the business of having the least the you know peter talked the net being drawn loosely. well where the appropriate tightness of
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this net you know the minute you openit this net you know the minute you open it up to them and i with beunda open it up to them and i with belinda the vast majority of employees probably are honest but there's significant minority who are dishonest and the fact that theresa may's made two and a half million quid in three years is an affront. i think to democracy. you know, matt hancock, you have to stand down as a member of a conservative party. when he went off to the jungle why is it that it was a particular any type net run that activity but they can go off and be directors of companies that create absolutely create conflicts of interest all right what do you think because i've been listening to this i'm thinking, yeah, but i think £84,000 is enough anyway. why should get paid more than average plus the people they're serving paid of them. serving don't get paid of them. don't get paid anything like that what's your that really. what what's your view i just want to view on this. i just want to pick up on that point that ben made. theresa made. matt hancock and theresa may was suspended may matt hancock was suspended from the party because he left the country he was also in australia in the jungle. theresa
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may serving may is still serving her constituents whilst earning about constituents whilst earning abou million, is not about £25 million, but is not a french democracy, how french democracy, is how the world works and true. but she must be doing lot of outside work to get two and a half million quid. she can't be serving her constituents. how is it got a half million it she's got and a half million quid over three years? she can't giving constituents a proper giving her constituents a proper pension had a perfectly happy with it i think that meant with it and i think that meant that the that made that the only that you made about and of having to have the experience earlier before i get into politics things changed that this technological advancement occurring every single in history. the single day in history. the changing people are changing i think it's fantastic for mp still have efforts in the door in making whilst they're still in making whilst they're still in westminster. well don't in making whilst they're still in westminster . well don't you in westminster. well don't you think that they didn't think that perhaps they didn't lose touch because a lot of most people can't do that i'm a final word peter. think the word to you, peter. i think the issue prime ministers, issue not ex prime ministers, because only couple of because there's only a couple of those parliamentjohnson, those in parliament johnson, theresa may, the rest are outside parliament. outside of parliament. they're going sums . the going to command huge sums. the concern is that dozens of people that employment that have an employment relationship. not matt
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relationship. so not matt hancock , who was essentially a hancock, who was essentially a freelance a jungle, people to freelance in a jungle, people to have employment relationship have an employment relationship to a city of to someone especially a city of that can net them hundreds of thousands of pounds well in excess of the work for which are paid as members parliament. and that really undermines undermines public concern over where their loyalties lie, you know, shouldn't be working perhaps for a hedge fund or private equity earning something in the hundreds of thousands pounds, that's completely different to retaining a role as a gp or a minister giving sermons or a teacher helping out in the classroom. well listen, peter, thank you so much for that. that is former editor. the label is peter edwards, political commentator reed ibrahim, mep and ben ibrahim, former mep and ben habib, anthem of party mep and political commentator ed lucy, thank so much for me this thank you so much for me this afternoon. let's see what afternoon. well, let's see what , saying you've been , you've been saying you've been saying with regard to saying this with regard to second jobs and story, tony second jobs and mp story, tony says the majority mp so says the majority the mp is so out of with reality think out of touch with reality think they second they should all have second jobs. jobs be jobs. those jobs should be
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minimum their minimum wage in their constituency so they can experience firsthand how the people they serve are coping . people they serve are coping. well, that idea, jamie . well, i like that idea, jamie. no, the of corruption , no, the risk of corruption, conflict of interest outweighs any potential benefit to constituents stewart says nope. for that , i want them working for that, i want them working full time and more. when exactly most people don't earn that. but you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on online and on digital right now. on the way we'll continue with our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, hughes be i'm asking, should mp hughes be allowed jobs? he never. allowed second jobs? he never. thoughts author and thoughts of my panel, author and broadcaster hamilton broadcaster christine hamilton also journalist danny also broadcast journalist danny kelly. on way loads of us. kelly. and on way loads of us. still to come , your latest news still to come, your latest news headunes. still to come, your latest news headlines . it's 533. i'm alan headlines. it's 533. i'm alan armstrong in the job newsroom. the prime minister has indicated he is willing to address nurses demands for more money and to rule out reopening this year's pay rule out reopening this year's pay deal. speaking the bbc rishi sunak also accept the nhs is
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under enormous pressure but did suggest much of it was down to the pandemic. now it is understood the strikes will go ahead as planned later this month, despite mr. sunak's comments today. earlier pat cullen the royal college of nursing urged downing street to meet the halfway and it as they want 19% pay rise. well shadow secretary wes streeting says the union's demands are too high, but the should negotiate a before. i did have to say to the nurses. however much totally sympathise with their pay claim we would. i would concur on in all honesty to say if i was in government today i'd be able to give 19. but we did say we would sit down and negotiate. i think that's the government should do. hundreds of people have been in protesting london in protesting in central london in solidarity anti—government solidarity with anti—government demonstrations in iran. protesters marched through trafalgar square earlier chanting justice for iran . chanting justice for iran. yesterday, two men were executed by.the yesterday, two men were executed by. the regime for allegedly
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killing a member of the iranian security forces during demonstrations last year. human rights organisations have described their trial as a sham . king charles has seen out in pubuc . king charles has seen out in public for the first time since details his son's memoir have emerged . the king stopped to emerged. the king stopped to interact with crowds as he arrived for a church in norfolk this morning. arrived for a church in norfolk this morning . now arrived for a church in norfolk this morning. now a arrived for a church in norfolk this morning . now a string of this morning. now a string of accusations and revelations have been made public this week with prince harry's book spare. accidentally released ahead of schedule in spain , tv, online schedule in spain, tv, online and dab radio. this is gb news. no it's back to nana. yeah .
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good afternoon. it's just coming up to 38 minutes after 5:00. welcome on board, gb news. i'm on a farewell on tv online , on a farewell on tv online, digital radio, and it's now time
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for our great debate this hour. and i'm asking, should employees be allowed second jobs? now, today , mp keir starmer today, mp sir keir starmer defended shadow foreign secretary david lammy, earning a vast sum of secretary david lammy, earning a vast sum 0 f £200,000 from his vast sum of £200,000 from his second job during this parliament. now, that's a lot of money. that's like was that almost three times the he's actual salary as an mp and this is despite starmer calling the ban of second jobs but with an exception mp are exception for mp who are professional qualifications like doctors lawyers now there's doctors and lawyers now there's nothing quite like being a bit of ethical is there? because this comes as figures from westminster accounts reveal how much been earned via mp much has been earned via mp dunng much has been earned via mp during course of this during the course of this parliament. so despite the fact that each mp earns a baseline say just £84,000, a whopping £17.1 million was earned in addition to mp salary since december 2019 was about two sense of the money being pocketed by around only 20 employees, and that's just over £15 million, which is owned . £15 million, which is owned. tory mps, however the mp who
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pocketed the most 2019. you wouldn't believe it. former prime minister theresa may isn't able . 2.5 million. so for the able. 2.5 million. so for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking be allowed second jobs. well let's see what my panel make of that because joining me now is author and broadcaster christine hamilton, also journalist also broadcaster and journalist kelly. got start kelly. christine, i got to start you because been in you because you've been in there, been houses there, you've been in the houses of parliament. are of parliament. you you are crucial to absolutely crucial to it. absolutely without you could never run. so it quite astonishing, isn't it, that theresa may is the top of the league because she it the league because she earns it for public speaking. i do wonder who to but anyway who wants to listen but anyway never she has made that never mind if she has made that from a very small of speaking engagements and are allowed to have free time. they're allowed to time off. they're allowed to you supposed to you know, you're not supposed to work so if she's made work 24 seven so if she's made that outside parliamentary time, then what's with that? it then what's wrong with that? it course depends what they do . course depends what they do. nobody would object to an mp working as a doctor or a dentist
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in his free time. nobody would object to an mp being some sort charity worker earning some for it. nobody would object to that . what people object to is when mps put their other jobs first. i mean, the classic example is geoffrey cox , who is the member geoffrey cox, who is the member of parliament for torridge and west devon and he is a barrister and he has earned over £1,000,000 in the last year. and guess he's done it in the british virgin islands. oh my god. representing the government. the british virgin islands government over allegations of corruption during the covid pandemic. he voted by proxy all the time and when the proxy all the time and when the proxy voting ended, he just missed votes . so that, i think, missed votes. so that, i think, is absolutely egregious and that is absolutely egregious and that is whatever you draw the lines, that should be on the other side, he should he says he in his defence he says it's up to my constituent it's do they want to be represented . somebody to be represented. somebody who's sort of clever enough , who's sort of clever enough, educated enough etc. etc. well it is up to his but in a first
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past the post system , the past the post system, the members of parliament to largely moonlight if you want call it that all the ones in safe seats so they cannot be got out by their constituents . the only their constituents. the only people who can get them out they don't like the moonlighting are . the little caucus of tories in or labour in that seat who appoint them as the candidate . appoint them as the candidate. so it is moonshine. boris said. oh, the constituents vote them out . that doesn't work. so i it out. that doesn't work. so i it entirely depends. it would be terrible . all mps were, you know terrible. all mps were, you know , 100% focussed on what goes on in that little westminster bubble. one of your panels at that, that would be that, i mean, that would be appalling. on the other hand an awful of an excuse me awful lot of an time excuse me is spent frankly citizens advice work which can easily be done by staffers and a hell of a lot it is done by staffers any . mp is is done by staffers any. mp is employee worth their pay can do at least half an mp job. all the backroom staff can they can do it themselves. don't need the mp, they just need the mp letter
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and letters i'm going to say uncontroversial, but i just neveri uncontroversial, but i just never i don't think it should be controversial . i think they controversial. i think they should more than 84 grand. should earn more than 84 grand. what that's different issue. what that's a different issue. no no, no. it feeds into whether you necessitate an. no, i don't think it is. i'm think it is a separate question. i think there be paid more. and if people have a problem that as roland garros, i am in eyes, it's just that i am in my eyes, it's just that you him set out to do some of are like football managers they may only have a tenure of three or or five years the or four or five years the maximum parliaments between elections is five years now they could be booted out. just think of all of the red wall street tories are going lose tories who are going to lose their january, april their seats in january, april 2024. now, can i just one? you said you said no did. but i'm telling you, they are the ones who don't have second jobs because they have spend all their time look good for that contract should okay well the contract should do okay well the hand feeds into my argument hand that feeds into my argument deserve be paid more telling you okay christina i are sort of okay christina and i are sort of all 9999. i haven't finished no
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no because you've done it older itake no because you've done it older i take it too long to sell the stolen about 20 minutes. the truth is , is that they the fact truth is, is that they the fact that the reason why they're so detached from reality is because they're paid a very good salary . not only that, they have expenses they have second , expenses they have second, second house allowances and things like that. okay they have so much time off . they've got so much time off. they've got that ridiculous thing the that ridiculous thing in the middle can spend the middle where. they can spend the six something. teachers six weeks or something. teachers let me think. they don't get paid much, do they? they don't get they get paid as much, but they nobody to but they don't nobody to give. but they don't get exactly they get paid on time. exactly they don't get £84,000. so let me finish finish . do finish sir, let me finish. do you think better of death? yes, it was for them. listen to listen. the point is this. the fact that they are then allowed to then waste even more time doing things that will help themselves privately when the actual goal is . first of all, actual goal is. first of all, it's like a vocational job. you are there to the people are there to serve the people you looking after the people you are looking after the people you are looking after the people you more than you are paid even more than most, the people you're most, the people that you're serving. have you serving. you have expenses. you have things, have other things, other privileges absolutely not.
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should be to should you be allowed to scholarship? a scholarship? i think it's a second you because second job. but if you because your attention will be elsewhere and your your attention not i haven't if haven't got adhd. but listen, if you're that good then you'll still stay post irrespective still stay in post irrespective of power. and therefore of who's in power. and therefore you worry about you don't need to worry about it. that is not it. that's for that term is not the years. most people the five years. most people don't even spend five years in one job and never used to be paid the days. it was in paid in the old days. it was in 1911, under a parliament act. 1911, in under a parliament act. they to the pay and they started to the pay and it was they started to the pay and it wa s £400 which was the was £400 a year, which was the reasonable of in reasonable amount of money in those but in those days those days. but in those days they from february they only sat from february to july and they sat for about july and then they sat for about a apparently in the a week. apparently in the beginning they beginning of the winter. they didn't in the winter, so didn't sit in the winter, so it was very job. and they was a very small job. and they what happened now is an mp what has happened now is an mp job built up and up and up. job is built up and up and up. it's citizens bureau aspect it's the citizens bureau aspect that to. it is not to that i referred to. it is not to me job of an mp to worry me the job of an mp to worry about whether a zebra crossing should be there or that shouldn't even come his shouldn't even come into his head. gets council. head. the cat gets the council. of be the of course it should be the council, but not get inundated at all this stuff. oh, they should delegated to the council. what's with? the. of
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what's wrong with? the. well, of course well course it's the council's. well i'll tell what the trouble course it's the council's. well i'lbecause what the trouble course it's the council's. well i'lbecause arvhat the trouble course it's the council's. well i'lbecause a lott the trouble course it's the council's. well i'lbecause a lot of1e trouble course it's the council's. well i'lbecause a lot of the 'ouble course it's the council's. well i'lbecause a lot of the councils is because a lot of the councils don't get on and do job don't get on and do their job properly because a lot properly and also because a lot of don't do their of solicitors don't do their job. the employees inundated with cases. mean, my was with legal cases. i mean, my was a barrister so he used to get a hell a lot of legal cases and hell of a lot of legal cases and hell of a lot of legal cases and he used to spend a huge amount of time trying to help constituents because they've been by solicitors. been let down by solicitors. but, know, going to the but, you know, going back to the bafic but, you know, going back to the basic 80, whatever it basic salary the 80, whatever it is i mean, yes, that is is for, i mean, yes, that is a huge money but if you huge amount of money but if you if if your training if if you if your training if you're trained as a lawyer or a barrister or as a consultant, you could earn more at school, then wouldn't think why then why wouldn't you think why wouldn't mp and do wouldn't you be an mp and go do that? because you really that? because what you really want who are passionate that? because what you really want the who are passionate that? because what you really want the job, ho are passionate that? because what you really want the job, doctors,assionate that? because what you really want the job, doctors, nurses, e about the job, doctors, nurses, people are people like that. there are other people don't earn that other people who don't earn that kind money. so are kind of money. so nurses are vocational they don't vocational of staff. they don't earn money. you know, other earn much money. you know, other who do vocational jobs because they're it don't they're passionate. it don't get that money. an should that kind of money. an mp should be job because they're be in the job because they're passionate about not because passionate about it, not because the money is the money and the money is enough and they get enough anyway and they get expensive overall of expensive the overall salary of will, it all
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will, if you add it all together. is let's say an individual 120,000 small individual 120,000 on a small enough supposing let's take a doctor, let's take a consultant he's earning expense a week in a month a year he on a saturday when he's doing anything , when he's not doing anything, he gets do a talk then gets asked to do a talk then he's going to be pai d £4,000 for he's going to be paid £4,000 for it. should he be allowed to it. should he not be allowed to do he should be allowed to do that he should be allowed to do that he should be allowed to do not his free time? do it? why not his free time? well, is using their well, if an mp is using their free time. yeah but, but what i what, i'm saying is because that will encroach the real time. will encroach on the real time. and did he received the and when did he received the email do job. when was email do the job. when was he answering questions. don't answering the questions. i don't know. that to make it know. i think that to make it nice and clear, they shouldn't second can focus on second jobs. they can focus on the they're doing. and if the job. they're doing. and if they they're not enough they do, they're not good enough that years and that we out in five years and say those things could have say that those things could have been harmful for been incredibly harmful for their constituents. what you their constituents. what did you say what do you say about. well, what do you mean the helm? it's mean at the helm? and it's harmful for. constituents, harmful for. the constituents, boris, on, boris, you said earlier on, bofis boris, you said earlier on, boris if the boris johnson says if the constituents don't like it, then they'll vote them out exactly what into what that doesn't take into account a poor performance account is a poor performance over can over those five years. those can statu and could have he or statu and he could have he or she could have made some
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terrible decisions. so it's so casual them out. casual to say them out. absolutely them what absolutely vote them out. what well supposed do you well you supposed to do you don't them nice people don't keep them nice people might want is that that's exactly but most exactly how it works but most people don't even know who their is. yeah, exactly. that's not good shouldn't have good enough. they shouldn't have certain no certain green jobs. there's no way. nothing way. right. it's nothing without. your views. that's without. and your views. that's welcome. a great britain's is their to be on show their opportunity to be on show and us they think and tell us what they think about topic by discussing about the topic by discussing got of wonderful got three of you. wonderful wonderful. let's start with jess gill redding. jess, should gill from redding. jess, should they jobs? think gill from redding. jess, should they actually jobs? think gill from redding. jess, should they actually shouldys? think gill from redding. jess, should they actually should have'hink gill from redding. jess, should they actually should have second jobs want of a second jobs or if they want of a second job?i jobs or if they want of a second job? i think completely job? i think that's completely fine because. i think the oliver wise or justin courage, career politicians, spend politicians, people who spend the towards politics the whole life towards politics and don't really trust people and i don't really trust people who simply just who think they can simply just how vision of making the how this vision of making the world think everyone world better. i think everyone wants make the world best, wants to make the world best, but real life, but unless you this real life, work life experience, i don't think actually possible. think that's actually possible. mm well don't know about that. i mean i think maybe they had the experience before they got into the job then. that would be the thing. let's to olivia thing. let's go to olivia parishes where are you
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parishes and where are you you're in surrey olivia. i yes. i think that should be paid at least double. and i'm sorry, i don't agree . you are overpaid don't agree. you are overpaid already. but if want to attract high calibre of candidate like a senior . oh, high calibre of candidate like a senior. oh, we lost it this good because . i didn't agree with her because. i didn't agree with her at all. none at all. let's go. john reed's moment in step. john nana the answer. john reed's moment in step. john nana the answer . a simple no, nana the answer. a simple no, no, no , no. again, you are no, no, no. again, you are absolutely on the money, nana. absolutely listen, do we think the nurses and doctors , the nurses and doctors, policemen fire brigade and dare i? i did prison officers looking after our prisons. should they? oh, good guy. get a second jobs andifs oh, good guy. get a second jobs and it's their money. well, should we pay them properly in the first place? i'm absolutely dismayed. and to know that, the tories are the topper on this on the second jobs. oh a surprise. well, i'm amazed . they also know well, i'm amazed. they also know
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certainly second job. i'm with you 100. thank you very to my great british voice, john reid , great british voice, john reid, olivia parry. i know . just thank olivia parry. i know. just thank you so much forjoining me. olivia parry. i know. just thank you so much forjoining me . we you so much forjoining me. we see that's what i thought exactly . efficient was not exactly. efficient was not nothing of 80 something thousand is more all people who is more than all the people who are most on strike on are striking most on strike on earning that right. well, moving on to harry and his on to prince harry and his controversial spare . how controversial memoir spare. how do did you think that we do you. did you think that we should a bit sorry should actually feel a bit sorry for supporters of the duke for him supporters of the duke of would argue that he's tragically mother at the tragically lost mother at the tender and is never tender age of 11 and is never quite recovered, whilst others would had very would say that had a very privileged life. so why is he complaining? do you think complaining? what do you think should empathetic should be more empathetic towards that's towards prince harry? that's what people make of. christine and danny, we have and danny. danny, first we have empathy towards him now because he's his bridges. he's been deliberate in, his words. and i, i analogise it with the bull gravano, who pardon me, the book of other that he's playing is a boy thing . let me explain who boy thing. let me explain who stated once against john, the
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leader of the gambino, new york from the 1990s. and he stood up court next to john and basically blew apart. he betrayed him. he's a traitor. so no empathy . he's a traitor. so no empathy. what do you think? essentially, i'm just to absorb all that . i i'm just to absorb all that. i still don't know . what? you still don't know. what? you know, i doing empathy and at all. no, i think loyalty is one of the most undeserved, valued traits. i value personally extremely highly. he has displayed such unbelievable to his family . you know, he was his family. you know, he was everybody knows all these arguments. he was born incredibly privileged family. it just seems you want something bit more privileged. i think it's mine blowing. and let's not go into whether it's meghan's or his to take his fault. he has to take responsibility what he's responsibility for what he's done. think he has behaved done. and i think he has behaved appalling . he's got nothing to appalling. he's got nothing to do. what about some of do. well, what about some of the stories he's saying that stories that he's saying that he's got nothing to with it? of course it has. doing it course it has. he's doing it money. no, it hasn't got
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anything he anything to do with how he should feel it, because should feel about it, because a lot his his opponents will lot of his his opponents will say he lives in this cottage on the estate. that's got the estate. the that's got nothing. they no choice. nothing. they have no choice. you how miserable you look at how many miserable millionaires. but millionaires. yes, but but but the money that has been the crown, a ferrari mini, crown, a ferrari than a mini, the that has the money. the money that is the netflix money. i'm not talking about the money, the privilege that he was born into. what to . money he is into. what to. money he is earning his keep from netflix which, you know , once asked you which, you know, once asked you to do would i forgive him? to do not would i forgive him? well, i did repent, obviously. and i would actually forgive him. yes and the reason i'd forgive him is because i would like to think that he could actually turn things around and i have to have hope in i would have to have hope in him. he could change things because, you know, i like to see people thinking forgiveness is a big . he can big trait, right. so if he can forgive, they forgive forgive, they should forgive other with it instead other and get on with it instead of you can't say of this nonsense, you can't say what's said is what people what's been said is what people shouldn't why and he shouldn't in a war. why and he said he was the forgiving type really people should remember
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when they're having a row, whether it's with their spouse or that mama that that that brother that you can hurt and say something. and once you've said will be there in said it, that will be there in the mind the other person. the mind of the other person. i think it's you know, he's he's let too many know not only in the mind it's in the fine print. i'm getting officials well. i'm getting officials as well. some things he said, oh, some of the things he said, oh, we some of these we don't want some of these things do right. but things in mind. do right. but it's things in mind. do right. but wsfime things in mind. do right. but it's time now for sunday with me and my somebody actually and my panel. somebody actually said be my said to me, it should be my panel and it really great. every time you say me and my panel, man, discussed some of man, my panel discussed some of the that, of course, the big stories that, of course, i from the i study your stories from the daily about a new batman daily mail about a new batman plot. and fans are up in arms. it well well, guess what the latest dc comics, the latest episode in dc comics, the joker, man who stopped joker, the man who stopped laughing guess what ? he was laughing guess what? he was never a bloke. he's trans man. it's he's pregnant or. never a bloke. he's trans man. it's he's pregnant or . she's it's he's pregnant or. she's pregnant. so they're actually including transgender comic heroes. the joker . for all of heroes. the joker. for all of those who've seen all of the batman movies all over the years, the decade of it, and
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thoroughly enjoyed it. well you've been fooled all over these years because blokes these years because the blokes bird. well, yet again, i'm on another planet and i've never watched it. so some bird. but yeah. the christie museum. well the mine just caught my eye. it's in the mail today. i'm find it seriously awful. a cool two of our troops are dangerously overweight. one in four of our troops has been officially classed as dangerously overweight or obese. 40,000, that is, personnel to be like that is, personnel to be like that. that is, personnel to be like that . over 5200 overweight to be that. over 5200 overweight to be so does have been medic discharge . more than 800 of them discharge. more than 800 of them weighing over 18 stone but what are they doing ? the specific are they doing? the specific training they arrive in the armed forces fit . of course they armed forces fit. of course they do. and they have been allowed to get like that during the course of their military service. that is what is so startling. get married. it's like you're publishing like when you're publishing a load copies, you do. they load of copies, you do. they didn't need fat . they used didn't need to be fat. they used to have to like, why don't to have to like, well, why don't you is just very brief
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you have this is just very brief that the ministry of defence revealed that 850 of them have been prescribed diet pills. well, that's okay . more than 60 well, that's okay. more than 60 have had liposuction . these are have had liposuction. these are all five in true. i mean, it's mind over 30 careful. it is it's appalling . danny's not in the appalling. danny's not in the military but the 30 stone you know you want that? yeah right. and one this is all about channel 4. this one, the boss channel 4. this one, the boss channel 4. this one, the boss channel 4 said that they are not a left not a left wing gb after winning a battle against private , after being asked , channel 4 , after being asked, channel 4 was left with gb news alex wong said no. i think we are politically politically impartial and this is despite the network being criticised for being overtly criticise critical of the government . i mean, what of the government. i mean, what do you think of it? i was pretty leftwing as far as i can see. it's very wing. i never watch it, but been on it it, but i've been on it occasionally interviewed by various people like christian
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guru—murthy about left guru—murthy talk about left wing. i simply don't watch it so i can't tell you what its content at the moment, but it's known to be left wing that i don't have personal experience like i and dodgy but like you. i try and dodgy but i have seen it particularly in the run up to the brexit referendum. it was incredibly sided. it it was incredibly one sided. it was incredibly negative was it was incredibly negative about and i saw it about could happen and i saw it as a former bbc journalist you we got 5050 i belong to some balance but i never saw balance is this is the question is channel 4 more or less biased the bbc. i think it's more i think it's mainly i think it's more obvious these more obvious but at the bbc i'd love to talk about it at the not behind the scenes what they decide to put output is incredibly lefty and liberal they won't put who's the right wing or brexit to be on that. i mean, i would have to confirm that and agree with that really just but i don't think they would probably deny that that's the thing but a that's the thing but that's a for channel really watch for channel i don't really watch much on that. i don't want it to
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too. although what's that one. that in america. no, the one that one in america. no, the one in australia. australia's next top is it australia. top model. is it australia. watch. that . oh watch. yeah, i forgot that. oh yes it's not forgettable yes it is. it's not forgettable . anyway, said not left . anyway, they said not left wing because this wing japanese because tv. this is on today's show is amazing. well on today's show we've been asking would you forgive harry if he was your son? our twitter son? according to our twitter poll, of you say yes and 70% poll, 30% of you say yes and 70% of say no . you so much my of you say no. you so much my amazing panel and broadcaster christine hamilton . thank you christine hamilton. thank you very much, christine. pleasure anytime. and i also broadcast journalist danny kelly and a huge thank you to you today for your company. you so much. i'll see you next saturday and don't forget i'll leave you with so take care by looking ahead to this evening's weather nine the uk looking to have a mix of uk is looking to have a mix of clear spells showers , breezy clear spells and showers, breezy conditions. the details conditions. here are the details . a fair number of showers are likely to sweep in across the south—west of england and brisk and gusty as a result clears will be short lived of the showers across the southeast die
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out so many areas will go into even into the evening dry air with clear periods developing a showery set up is expected across much of wales , although across much of wales, although the heaviest and most widespread . the showers are likely in the west . the occasional shower west. the occasional shower might make inroads into parts of the west midlands thanks to the southwesterly breeze , although southwesterly breeze, although for many will be a dry start to the night with broken cloud cover , it will be a similar cover, it will be a similar situation across north eastern england where showers are possible over the pennines whilst further east towards the coast it looks dry and fairly clear . scotland will see a large clear. scotland will see a large contrast from west east with showers in the west , clear with showers in the west, clear with spells towards edinburgh and other eastern parts across northern ireland. it will be changeable picture . there'll be changeable picture. there'll be some clear weather at times, especially in the east, but with some showers moving from the west overnight to hold on to clear spells and blustery showers. although most the
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showers. although most the showers are likely in the west and that is how the weather is shaping into tomorrow morning .
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welcome to gloria meets he was chief whip under boris johnson's premiership. it's mark spencer. you write boris johnson off at your peril . he's he is a hugely, your peril. he's he is a hugely, hugely talented politician. the man who wants you to put him in charge of our justice system , charge of our justice system, labour's steve read . i was labour's steve read. i was frozen stiff because there was a knife on my throat. and afterwards, you know, i looked, i got home, i looked in the mirror. there was a nick with a knife of beans and she was elected in 2019. conservative mp virginia crosbie i have

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