on mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion monologue rishi must stand against the strikes . it's stand against the strikes. it's a political headache , but it's a political headache, but it's an opportunity to . he's got to an opportunity to. he's got to show that he's running britain, not the union barons. so about my mock meets guest . it's the my mock meets guest. it's the journalist of finance writer and former brexit party mep and sea otter rees—mogg . it's a big otter rees—mogg. it's a big question is it time for a labour government and in the news agenda? all we know is shamed to be british. and was it a mistake

to get rid of boris johnson so to get rid of boris johnson so to get rid of boris johnson so to get through. plus my take at ten and it's a monologue all about weight loss it might just change your life. lots to get through big 2 hours. but first the headline is with the very slimline aaron armstrong . hi slimline aaron armstrong. hi there . yes, how about armstrong there. yes, how about armstrong in the gb newsroom. the prime minister has indicated he's willing to address nurses demands more money and has declined to rule out reopening this year's pay deal. speaking to the bbc , sunak accepted the to the bbc, sunak accepted the is under enormous pressure but suggested much of that was done to the pandemic. it's understood the strikes, though, will continue as planned this month, despite mr. sunak's comments today. the royal college of nursing have urged downing to meet the union halfway and its demand for a 19% pay rise. shadow health secretary says labour couldn't afford that ehhen labour couldn't afford that either. i'm afraid i did have to

say to the nurses , however much say to the nurses, however much i totally sympathise with their pay i totally sympathise with their pay claim. we would. i would , in pay claim. we would. i would, in all honesty, commit to say i was in government today. i'd be able to give the 19. but we did say we would sit down and negotiate. i think that's what the government should do. meanwhile, health caulfield told health minister caulfield told gb news she with the prime minister that , although the nhs minister that, although the nhs is facing undeniable pressure this winter, there are mitigating . we're seeing a twin mitigating. we're seeing a twin democrat , both covid and flu. democrat, both covid and flu. we're seeing over 50% increase in the number of patients in with flu at the moment that has a effect if beds aren't a knock on effect if beds aren't available for a&e, leads available for a&e, which leads to the waits you describe to the long waits you describe and a on effect on and has a on effect on ambulances being stuck a&e trying to unload patients . let's trying to unload patients. let's turn to a developing story in brazil. supporters of , the brazil. supporters of, the country's former far right president bolsonaro, have invaded the congress. the supreme . and they've surrounded supreme. and they've surrounded the presidential palace. dramatic scenes in the capital, brasilia. come a week after new

lula da silva was inaugurated , lula da silva was inaugurated, bolsonaro supporters who are refusing to accept he lost the election , are calling for election, are calling for military intervention , drawing military intervention, drawing parallels with the january the sixth storming of the us capitol following donald trump's defeat . president lula is currently on an official visit to state of sao paulo . russia claims it's sao paulo. russia claims it's killed more than 600 ukrainian soldiers while they were in their temporary housing in eastern ukraine. its defence ministry says the missile strike revenge for ukraine's on russian barracks , a moscow controlled barracks, a moscow controlled part of donetsk on new year's eve. it killed at least 89 russian troops. and moscow has yet to provide evidence of the attack . ukraine's rejected it . attack. ukraine's rejected it. propaganda for the shelling took place in several parts of ukraine shortly after russia ended its self—declared ceasefire to mark orthodox christmas . ceasefire to mark orthodox christmas. china's reopened ceasefire to mark orthodox christmas . china's reopened its christmas. china's reopened its borders for the first time in

three years after imposing travel restrictions for most of the pandemic. incoming travellers will no longer need to quarantine but will still need proof of negative pcr test taken within 48 hours of travelling. china. britain to dismantle its zero covid policy , which included some of the tightest restrictions, including frequent testing and mass lockdowns. some 2 billion trips are expected for the chinese new year this month . hundreds of year this month. hundreds of people have been protesting central london in solidarity with anti—government demonstrations in iran. protesters marched through trafalgar square earlier chanting for. trafalgar square earlier chanting for . justice. yesterday chanting for. justice. yesterday two men were executed by the regime for allegedly killing a member of the iranian security forces during demonstrations last year . forces during demonstrations last year. human rights organisations have described their trial as a sham tv online and the abc plus radio. this is gb news. now it is back to mark

dolan tonight. thanks, aaron. we'll see you in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight in my big opinion monologue rishi sunak must stand firm against the strikes. it's a political headache but an opportunity to he's got to show that he's running britain not the union barons in the big question is it time for labour government do they now deserve a shot at power ? i'll be asking shot at power? i'll be asking ann widdecombe . and tony blair's ann widdecombe. and tony blair's former top adviser, my meats guest is the journalist finance writer and former brexit party mep and author rees—mogg. quite a character. she's live after ten in my take it ten. it's and the country needs a diet it's time to britain's bulging

waistline and i might just the answer it's a monologue that could possibly change your life. that's after ten. plus we've got the papers at 1030 sharp. you can set your watch to it with tomorrow's headlines and panel reaction in news agenda. are we now a to be british? and was it a mistake to get rid of bojo ? a mistake to get rid of bojo? we'll be joined by one of his closest allies later this hour . closest allies later this hour. do you have boris regret reacting to those stories ? and reacting to those stories? and many more on my fantastic panel of journalist and bestselling hilary freeman , political hilary freeman, political commentator and co—founder of conservatives against racism and for equality albie amankona and the leader of ukip ex tory mp neil hamilton . i want to hear neil hamilton. i want to hear from you throughout the mark at gb news. don't emails on my top priority on this show on this programme has a golden we don't

do boring not on my watch i just won't it safe . two big hours of won't it safe. two big hours of big debates , big guests and big debates, big guests and always big opinions. let's start with this . one raging inflation with this. one raging inflation , spiralling debt and on strike 2023 feels more like 1973 without all of the good stuff unprotected sex , bell bottoms unprotected sex, bell bottoms and early elton john with trade from various industries gathering on tuesday for something akin to a council of war, there are fears another echo of the 1970 is that they might collude and bring about a general strike. now i think such fears are wide the mark but parallels with industrial strife in the seventies eighties are in

escape and they provide an import lesson from history. things got so bad in the summer of 1975 that the then labour prime minister, harold wilson , prime minister, harold wilson, was agreeing 25 and even 30% pay rises just to get workers back on the factory floor to get the trains moving and to get the miners digging coal again. inflation reached 27% in the mid seventies, making current situation look like the queen's garden party for all her sins and some mistakes . standing up and some mistakes. standing up to the unions in the early 1980s was the policy for margaret thatcher, who faced down bullies like arthur scargill , who like arthur scargill, who threatened to bankrupt the country it took vision, it took principle and it took courage . principle and it took courage. but in the end, the marxist arthur scargill and his left

socialist ideals were defeated and won the arguments with unprecedented economic boom . by unprecedented economic boom. by 87, inflation was down, unemployment was down, and economic growth was through roof. with a tsunami of small businesses popping all over the place and working people were buying their own council property and using it as an asset to make something of their lives . so now the hand of lives. so now the hand of history rests on the shoulder of our first british asian prime, rishi sunak . our first british asian prime, rishi sunak. he must stand up to the unions sunak rather than later later . it's my view that later later. it's my view that the nurses were wrong to go on strike. it sets a dangerous precedent , but it's strike. it sets a dangerous precedent, but it's clear to me that they deserve something. and i'm sure that sunak will want this resolved quickly . whilst this resolved quickly. whilst 19% is a non—starter the british pubuc

19% is a non—starter the british public love admire nurses so it's not political hill to die on but above and beyond that sooner like should strap himself in for the mother of all battles for example with the postal workers who have gone on strike. but no really noticed. as a service was so bad in the first place, he's going to have to get tough with mick lynch the rail union. supreme mau, who is a very entity guy and i'm sure a good bloke, but who's inflation busting, irresponsible demands gloss over the fact that the country is broke and that rail services have already been bankrolled through pandemic to the tune of billions . the the tune of billions. the eye—watering figure , £600 per eye—watering figure, £600 per household was paid out just to keep them going. when we were stuck at home in lockdown . it's stuck at home in lockdown. it's a war on two fronts for sunak because not only must he stand his ground on the money side , his ground on the money side, because that is in the british

national interest, after all, we're but we've got to push towards modernisation and efficiency to why for example to the rmt object to driver only trains it save a fortune and with automatic ticket machines other technology it's pretty obvious that train guards are surplus to requirements . surplus to requirements. similarly, the may get their payback up, but health secretary stephen barclay right to say and this weekend's telegraph that when . well it will only happen when. well it will only happen if accept efficiency targets . if accept efficiency targets. these could include better use of technology revisions to outdated working practises what's not to like to give to in pay what's not to like to give to in pay demands will be a huge setback in the battle against inflation and which is a tax on everyone and will bake it into the system for years to come. the economy will never recover ,

the economy will never recover, but this is all about messaging too. if sunak can show he's got a backbone like the aforementioned thatcher and buckle under the pressure even there are further short term and economic impact . any coordinated economic impact. any coordinated by the unions will tumble a house of cards but give in to lynch and his lynch mob and every other union and their mum will be queuing up to down. lynch his lucre. now it's all is what they'll be saying . even what they'll be saying. even schoolteachers are threatening a strike in february , march of strike in february, march of this year. now as a parents, i'm deeply grateful for hard work and expertise . they have one of and expertise. they have one of the most important jobs in the country . most do it very well . country. most do it very well. but have the kids not suffered enough? whites bred industrial action in educate and would see yet more school closures of which . we've already had far too which. we've already had far too many in the last couple of years

as a result of the government's bonkers and in my view disastrously experiment to stop a virus . we saw every school in a virus. we saw every school in the land closed in spite of the vanishing threat the virus posed to children. follow the science they the signs are good . sunak. they the signs are good. sunak. he's drawn up legislation to make it harder for essential industries to go on strike and. important statement of intent . important statement of intent. of course. it goes without that the cervix for a leader of the opposition. keir starmer is against this new legislation. we'll reverse it if he gets into power . of course he will. hardly power. of course he will. hardly surprising given his party is in the of the unions. labour would stand up to the unions would they. they pick a fight with their core fan base in the pubuc. their core fan base in the public . would they. how would public. would they. how would that work ? let me tell you , i that work? let me tell you, i think that millions are underpaid in this country. i

want to live in a where hard working folk get a proper wage . working folk get a proper wage. well, these unions would be getting their pay rise if we hadnt getting their pay rise if we hadn't knackered the economy . hadn't knackered the economy. ludicrous lockdowns we borrowed. don't forget, half trillion quid to pay healthy people to stay at home. but i don't remember any of these unions complaining about lockdowns at the time. far from it it was the unions that pushing for work from home orders mask mandate vaccine tyranny and all of that pathetic covid like plastic screens and hand sanitiser. so that their members could be . do me a favour members could be. do me a favour . the teaching unions particular have a case to answer diminishing the life chances of . our children by pushing for those needlessly. and now widely discredited school closures . so discredited school closures. so industrial action is a problem for sunak, but it's an opportunity to, as it was for

thatcher in 1979. it's a simple the government can run the country or the unions can run it into the ground . sunak must be into the ground. sunak must be strong. give lynne an inch and he'll take a mile mile. strong. give lynne an inch and he'll take a mile mile . should he'll take a mile mile. should sunak stand firm ? the unions sunak stand firm? the unions mark@gbnews.uk i'll get to your email shortly. let's get reaction now from the leader of , ukip, neil hamilton, journalist and best selling author hilary freeman. and political commentator albie aman. conor albie. let me start with you. is this sunak thatcher moment? i it very well could be sunak thatcher moment. i agree with the premise of your monologue. i think he should be firm with unions. the biggest enemy at the to everyone in the country and everyone watching at home is inflation and everything should be being geared towards

bringing inflation down. and one of the things that we learnt from the 1970s and indeed inflation problems the world is that if you raise wages in line with inflation can get into a wage price spiral which essentially bakes in inflation into the economy, which is not what we, the prime minister, wants to produce inflation by half this year. so it's a 5. and then that should really help with a lot of the pay demands that we're seeing and then hopefully the independent review body can come to a new agreement for pay for next year, which more in line with the lower inflation environment that we hope we will see. neil i know you're not a cheerleader for. rishi sunak you're no fan . does rishi sunak you're no fan. does this present him with an opportunity? well knew margaret thatcher very well indeed . i was thatcher very well indeed. i was a minister in her government. i can tell you, i don't think that rishi sunak is a margaret thatcher, but it's certainly a big problem for. but i mean, all these strikes are , of course, these strikes are, of course, taking place in the public sector. that's the difference

between the 1970s and today. in the 1970s. strikes endemic throughout the entire economy . throughout the entire economy. the only reason why all strikes are occurring in the public sector is because the ultimate decision about whether they're going to get what demanding will be taken by the politicians who run the government, because the government can print money to validate pay claims are agreed . validate pay claims are agreed. can't do that in the private sector. private sector. employer if he pays too much, his firm may go bust. the government never bust. it's simply manufactures more money. so. but these wage claims that we're seeing now are not going to be the cause inflation. they're actually the product of the inflation in which the government has caused, as you said, the covid pandemic response government meant a ballooning of government debt andifs ballooning of government debt and it's still going today and that's been funded . the bank of that's been funded. the bank of england just printing because andrew bailey, the governor has been asleep at the wheel for the last couple of years and so we

get inflation down and it is coming down because the money supply has been contracting now for nearly 18 months and that ultimately is going determine the inflation, not trade the rate of inflation, not trade union wage push, demand ends. but the government has to balance its books over a period of time and. the national debt next year is going to go up from so 97% of the gdp, which it is this year, hundred and 2. so even without this that's going on in the trade union wage claims, government still borrowing money that it can't afford. okay and so since i can't afford to give way, you know, give way to the nurses, i'm sure, because as you rightly said, their are popular with the public, whereas maybe the real unions aren't so popular. well, let me let me let me start with freeman. i mean, hilary, who runs mick lynch rishi sunak ? runs mick lynch or rishi sunak? it's a very good . i really don't it's a very good. i really don't know. i mean, i don't think rishi sunak is really running

britain. i think i think i think whenever nobody's running the country really at the moment, at least, no, not in real terms . least, no, not in real terms. obviously we have a government, but i think i think strikes do have a place . i think it's have a place. i think it's really important that the do have rights and can say we're not happy and we demand more . not happy and we demand more. and i think it's very dangerous to say just to clamp down too much on strikes. i mean , look at much on strikes. i mean, look at france. there are strikes there all the time. and yet the country does seem to carry on running . so i think it is just running. so i think it is just it's part of a culture. you you know, that you you should be able to stand up, say, i'm not happy. i'm not happy what i'm getting i to demand getting and i want to demand more negotiate. more. then you can negotiate. and i the thing now is that they need to negotiate. not need to negotiate. that's not what's happening . okay. well, what's happening. okay. well, what's happening. okay. well, what's view ? do you think what's your view? do you think sunak should stand firm against the and the striking the unions and the striking workers? let me know your thoughts. market later in the news agenda with my panel and a

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in two. welcome back to the show . former welcome back to the show. former brexit party mep didn't see all two. rees—mogg is live after as my mark meets guest and he might take it ten britain needs battle its bulging waistline and i might just have the answer. it's a monologue that could change your life and i've got evidence that i believe it will make go. so some health truth bombs

coming later. perfect for january. i think you'll agree . january. i think you'll agree. can i get some of your emails first? because it's the best bit of my show when you get in touch market gb news dot uk barrie. mark the government don't run the country, central bankers do. we must stop spending, barrie. there isn't a syllable that that i disagree with in. fact, it's so good. i'm going to read it again in case someone is just tuned in. barrie says. mark. the government don't run the country. the central bankers do. we must stop spending that featured in a opinion monologue last year in which i said the elephant in the room is that britain lives beyond means. that's a conversation, i'm sure we'll return to richard . hi, we'll return to richard. hi, mark. rishi must not show any signs of cracking the unions will, smell blood and grow even bolder in their demands. if he gives an inch, they'll take a mile. we can never be held to ransom by the bully boy of the politically motive ated union barons. i think momentum is already starting to shift away from public strike support and

lynch is starting to feel the pinch . rishi must hold firm . pinch. rishi must hold firm. thank you, richard, for that fascinating and beautifully written email . how about from written email. how about from gotham who says rishi sunak's choice of chancellor of the exchequer and the autumn statements say everything about him like other communist. he himself majestic lifestyle and for others the hard working people all feeling it. thank you for that gotham. and two more before we get to and. emily says mark rishi needs to act tough right now puts on his strict margaret thatcher act and let the trade unions have all the power he needs to act like an inspirational leader and tell them how much terrible damage they this country they are doing to this country and economy . and last but and the economy. and last but not from alan, who says not least from alan, who says mark sunak must stand firm. we did . taxpayers cannot be held to did. taxpayers cannot be held to ransom mr. hindsight, i think you're referring to sir keir starmer has . you're referring to sir keir starmer has. no guts to you're referring to sir keir starmer has . no guts to face the starmer has. no guts to face the unions . they see an avenue for

unions. they see an avenue for corbynism and momentum to return in strength . yeah, i do wonder. in strength. yeah, i do wonder. no one's answered question how it is that labour would be tougher on the unions in office, given the fact that their reliance on the millions from union barons to actually finance their party. oh well keep those emails coming. market gb news dot uk. it's time now for this. yes, it's time for the big question in which we tackle a major news story of the day and sir keir starmer this week made his first keynote speech of the week a promise to take back control , boosting the economy, control, boosting the economy, fixing nhs and improving the lives of working people . so lives of working people. so after almost 13 years in power with inflation raging and the economy on its knees and with the public sector in crisis . is the public sector in crisis. is it time for labour government? do labour deserve a shot at power to discuss this? i'm

delighted to welcome former conservative government minister and bestselling author and personality ann widdecombe . on personality ann widdecombe. on hello. hello. and great to have you back on the program . you back on the program. politics is cyclical , isn't it? politics is cyclical, isn't it? and the cronulla orgy would suggest it's time for labour. i don't believe it is . time for don't believe it is. time for laboun don't believe it is. time for labour. i think . got to ask labour. i think. got to ask yourself what a labour government would do in the present circumstance. we're under huge pressure , but we've under huge pressure, but we've had covid. we've got a in ukraine and, you know, labour wouldn't manage to magic away those particular problems. so the idea of that , because the the idea of that, because the country is under severe pressure at the moment, which it is. the answer is labour is a nonsense but secondly, a forced labour has no record at all of controlling the trade unions , controlling the trade unions, nor has it got any record of controlling its own treasury. we all remember the note from the

outgoing treasury to his conservative successors saying there's no money left . a never there's no money left. a never is at the end of a labour. and at this moment are it is more crucial than ever that. we have proper management. so the thing i think we need is a labour government and particularly when the corbyn issue still hasn't been fully resolved, there are plenty of employees who would rather see corbyn there than . rather see corbyn there than. starmer and they will cause a lot of trouble . well, and let's lot of trouble. well, and let's welcome and turn into the conversation . john is tony conversation. john is tony blair's former top adviser. john, welcome to the show and a happy new year to you. do labour deserve a shot at power? you you 7 deserve a shot at power? you you ? well, the question . shouldn't ? well, the question. shouldn't the conservatives be run of town? three prime minister was in last year. we've had five tory prime ministers in the last years. all this chaos in politics is inside the tory

party at the moment . and what party at the moment. and what you need is a steady , you know, you need is a steady, you know, a steady hand on the tiller. and that would be keir starmer. somebody with a plan, somebody has got the unity of his party behind him and somebody who actually bring ideas and actually would bring ideas and fresh energy and. the problem is , a lot of these crises we have at the moment, the you know, the nhs crisis is an understaffed , nhs crisis is an understaffed, caused by lack pay and it's been 12 years of tory misrule for the health service. lots of these issues are the chickens coming home to roost ? the tory party. home to roost? the tory party. it's time for that party to have a rest on, the backbenches and sort itself out because really you know the current prime minister sunak for all of his calm he is the prisoner of his own backbenches who push him this way in that way. on whether there should be more whether should be more renewable energy . the government have got no real direct need real direct and we need direction . what about in the direction. what about in the event of a hung parliament with

labour as the biggest party? john surely old keir starmer would be feeling pressure from corbynite mps pushing him to the left. well, i was. i actually did a discussion at the labour party conference, a momentum meeting and i had mick lynch the union leader and i had zara sultana and put that question, zara, wouldn't the left have control in the labour government 7 control in the labour government ? and she said the left, the labour party will not play politics, not like that. that will give stability to the country . so i think, you know, country. so i think, you know, we'll have look , we have to see we'll have look, we have to see you have to hear what people we're going have. we're we're going to have. we're not we're going to have. we're not we're problem, we're not going to a problem, are going to have are we? we're going to have a 100, 150 seat majority . the 100, 150 seat majority. the polls are terrible for the tories at the moment so bad it seems impossible for them to recover. then you go ann widdecombe. help me out here. the of the labour party the left of the labour party will not be political in any way. there a hung parliament. way. if there a hung parliament. well, i think the stupidity . well, i think the stupidity. that statement. sorry, with all due respect , the stupidity of due respect, the stupidity of that statement honestly speaks

for itself. i it is ludicrous. the left , the left of the labour the left, the left of the labour party not be political. that's what we're being told. and i mean , anybody who believes that mean, anybody who believes that just hasn't lived in the real world. but i there are two things that comes that i seriously query. labour has a plan . what plan? i listened to plan. what plan? i listened to keir starmer. what plan? where's the plan? there's no plan . and the plan? there's no plan. and secondly, i despair of both parties. when it comes to the nhs , because the problems that nhs, because the problems that we've got in the nhs are not down to any particular government or any particular party. they are down to the fact that it was never designed to cope with what it has to cope with. now and i say again, and i'm sorry to boil listeners, because i've heard it all before , but i say again that what need is a proper national debate. everybody involved to ask ourselves what we would do if we designing a national health

service from scratch . now, service from scratch. now, knowing what we know now and didn't and couldn't have known in the 1940s and nobody what asked that question and it's fundamental and they are all cowards all of them both parties are cowards when it comes to this issue . john mcternan how this issue. john mcternan how could a labour government . and could a labour government. and sir keir starmer as prime minister. be firm with the unions given the fact that labouris unions given the fact that labour is reliant on union donations for its very survival 7 donations for its very survival ? how could keir starmer stand up to insidious woke culture or extreme political correctness in our institutions? given the fact that he can't define a woman is even though he's to one, and to what extent a labour government tackle the energy crisis , given tackle the energy crisis, given the fact that they want to start a 1970s style state backed company investing in flaky renewables ? i mean, we're renewables? i mean, we're rolling back the years back to

the nightmare of the early 1970s, aren't . we? that's just 1970s, aren't. we? that's just ridiculous, isn't it? i mean, even even today with all the strikes against the current government , you've got, was it government, you've got, was it not 1% of working days are being lost as a tiny fraction of working days being lost in strikes. and the people the strikers currently . i've got the strikers currently. i've got the sympathy and the backing of the pubuc sympathy and the backing of the public because they can see ten, 12 years of pressing down on wages , plus not a 10% on terms wages, plus not a 10% on terms and inflation is leading to massive cuts in living standards . what the unions are asking for is reasonable , not like the is reasonable, not like the 19705 is reasonable, not like the 1970s is a reasonable people backed by the public. and as for i know what what we can do about energy, we're going to spend 28 billion and invest energy, we're going to spend 28 billion and invest £20 billion a year of capital re industrial izing the country, turning our economy into a rapidly decarbonised economy. and great britain energy is not a nationalisation move . it's nationalisation move. it's a move to create investment . move to create investment.

innovative technology like green light blue hydrogen , like carbon light blue hydrogen, like carbon capture and storage . we need capture and storage. we need those things all coming in, in, coming on stream, in years to come. because while we build new nuclear and labour will build new nuclear to completely decarbonise the energy mix, we'll need other things coming on stream to ambition of a labour government to rebuild economy by by by moving to green growth and getting growth as decentralised growth that's everywhere and doing the real thing not levelling up but actually delivering equality equality across the country and that's the right way to go. this is national british energy . i is national british energy. i mean, that is a state gamble on flaky renewables. that's why we're going back to the 1970s when those old enough watching remember governments approved hopeless at running businesses. we've had what we've had we've had a dozen years of tory rule in which we've moved to a law of offshore wind and someone

onshore wind and the windmills are designed to be built manufactured abroad because the government didn't have a plan for investing in renewable. the labour government will have great british energy as an as an, as an organisation to invest in innovation together with the private sector. so it will not be state leading it, it will be a partnership to speed up the new energy sources that we know we need. we do need the hydrogen and we know we need carbon capture and storage. we need all of these things . the not been of these things. the not been invested by this . they need to invested by this. they need to be invested by future be invested in by future government. they will they government. and they will they will. end, we get the will. in the end, we get the green revolution right, the green and all the green growth right and all the insulating homes , getting the insulating of homes, getting the modern standards . we'll be modern standards. we'll be cutting people's energy bills permanently. and that's the real answer to cost of living. that's the real answer energy the real answer to energy crisis. and to we this government made whole of government have made a whole of the economy , and it's therefore the economy, and it's therefore time for fresh leadership, fresh

ideas labour deserve their chance and they haven't made what you described of the. i don't first of all they did not invent covid and if you look at other economies they're are also suffering inflation. they're also suffering from the same problems as we are. some them even than we are because even worse than we are because this was global problem and this was a global problem and then there's a war in ukraine which shortages put which has shortages and put other pressures , particularly in other pressures, particularly in response to energy. so the idea of just laying at the door of the conservatives is a nonsense, but is course sort of but it is of course the sort of nonsense we will probably nonsense which we will probably go labour. but go on hearing from labour. but i must back on john he says must back on john when he says you know, the trade unions are reasonable , let me very reasonable, let me say very clearly , no wage demand which clearly, no wage demand which above inflation is reasonable because . that is what forces the because. that is what forces the wage price spiral 10% is why the one below inflation . that is the one below inflation. that is the only reason i haven't that from the nurses. i heard that from

mick lynch and that is all that actually matters . then you go, actually matters. then you go, john, in a sentence , you get the john, in a sentence, you get the last word . the if you don't have last word. the if you don't have a pay last word. the if you don't have a pay rise in line with inflation , you're taking a pay inflation, you're taking a pay cut. and that's after a decade of pay cuts. that's why workers are angry and that's why the pubuc are angry and that's why the public support them . public support them. john mcternan, have on the mcternan, great to have on the show. look forward to catching up soon. blair's top up soon. tony blair's former top adviser and ann widdecombe, bestselling author, former government and i'm delighted to say and is going to be the star of mark dolan tonight every sunday for the whole of 2023. what a absolutely thrilled i look forward our weekly encounters . we'll see you in encounters. we'll see you in seven days time. what do you think ? what's your reaction to think? what's your reaction to what you've just heard? is it time for labour government market? gbnews.uk lot to get market? gbnews.uk a lot to get through, but coming . are we through, but coming. are we ashamed ? be british and was ashamed? be british and was a mistake getting rid boris johnson. see you shortly .

reacting to the big stories of the day is my all star panel , the day is my all star panel, leader of ukip, neil hamilton , leader of ukip, neil hamilton, journalist and best selling author hilary freeman and political commentator . now a political commentator. now a freedom of information request by the independent has revealed that there has been a six fold increase over ten years in british citizens handing in their passports and claiming citizenship . is there something citizenship. is there something wrong with this country? why are many people renouncing their citizenship ? are people ashamed citizenship? are people ashamed to be british? albie amankona mark. no don't think people are changing british. i did bit of digging and so it says here this freedom of information request found that it was just 868 people who in 2001 renounced

their british citizenship. and there are 51 million britons in there are 51 million britons in the whole of the british. so i think this is a storm in teacup is actually if you look at the just 30, sounds like a large when you're just talking about percentages. but when you look at the actual numbers, less than at the actual numbers, less than a thousand out of 51 million people with a british passport is not something we need to be concerned. well, you're right to spot some the in that spot some the detail in that story six fold. sounds dramatic, but from a very small number. however, do you wonder whether patria in this country is on the wane? do we love our country less than we used to? i think certainly with with with the younger generation. i we need to rediscover what patriotism means . millennials and people in gen z . you know, we don't z. you know, we don't necessarily to the national anthem when we're in school . we anthem when we're in school. we don't have the sense of what a british is kind of drilled into us from, you know, and we're told our history is shameful.

well, that too. but i think i think we need to have a more inclusive, more inclusive sense of what it means to be british and actually teach that to children, warts and all. the good, the bad and the ugly british history and that to unite people rather than to divide people as both people on either side of the culture will do when it comes this discussion about about about history, it's about upmanship. actually upmanship. it's not actually trying things which are trying to find things which are going people . and i going to unite people. and i think a shame. hillary in think that's a shame. hillary in you literally taught to love you are literally taught to love your country. i think we should do and i think it do that here and i think it would our communities and would unite our communities and it most inclusive it would be the most inclusive thing do. i think it thing you could do. i think it would be a good idea to make people more aware of what being is i'm really is because i'm not really entirely sure i know i have to say, you know , i'm british. say, you know, i'm british. i was born in britain , parents was born in britain, parents were born in britain . i were born in britain. i definitely feel english. i don't really know if i feel british and i don't really know why i feel british. you know why feeling . you know, for me, it's feeling. you know, for me, it's if i hear algar or vaughan or

shakespeare , something like shakespeare, something like that, that makes me feel very english. but i think in england is, is i think i don't think people are ashamed of being british, but i think maybe they're a little bit embarrassed now. well, yeah, because i. the laughingstock of europe. well, this is, you know, the way that britain's during britain's characterised during the when had one the pandemic when had one particular variant kent particular covid variant kent variant they called us plague islands you and then suddenly the germans got this particular variant and we weren't plague ireland anymore . you know, the ireland anymore. you know, the press even here were keen to talk the country down, wonder whether that's seeping through into the population. and of course were so guilty of this most outrageous crime which is leaving the european union. well, yeah. and i think, you know, looking again, at this at this , actually, most this date, actually, that most of people who are who are of the people who are who are renouncing their british citizenship are it because citizenship are doing it because they to because they've they have to because they've moved country where you're moved to a country where you're not allowed to have two citizenship. actually citizenship. so it's actually it's because of brexit. they

don't to it well, don't want to give it up. well, yes. and neil i have a suspicion that the remain classes in this country and most of the mainstream media just love talking the country down and consider this to be a terrible place. i'm sure that's true. i just wish a lot of them would give up. british nationality and we the back of them. we could see the back of them. you are two very you know, there are two very noisy of southern noisy residents of southern california. that we california. i think that we could rid of in that way. could get rid of in that way. you grew up in a world you know, i grew up in a world where we stood for the where we stood up for the national anthem at the end of cinema performance that disappeared decades ago disappeared many decades ago with the wind or brief encounter that was before the whole the whole case . charlie chaplin was whole case. charlie chaplin was actually it was a black and white world, but , you know, white world, but, you know, we've also been fed a diet of decline ism. haven't we which is so over effectuating exactly . so over effectuating exactly. and this was the whole essence of project fear and the remain case in the referendum brexit gives us a great opportunity to

rediscover our greatness as a nafion rediscover our greatness as a nation and faith in ourselves, to show that britain can not just survive but prosper in the world outside european union, because we haven't got a government that's capable of doing that because done absolutely nothing with brexit since it was painfully achieved to too late in 2020. but britain is still one of the great nafions is still one of the great nations of the world, seventh largest economy in the world. and look at all the things that we've given the world over the years the english language, first and foremost, amongst which is lingua franca of which is the lingua franca of the the rule of law, the internet the rule of law, parliamentary , parliamentary, parliamentary, parliamentary, democracy . we've got a played democracy. we've got a played a big part in the abolition of slavery, for example which we don't enough. and all these people who do talk about and need to be taken on as gb news does take them on. but who else does take them on. but who else does part from the daily mail to ? well, there you go. well, god bless daily and god bless gb bless the daily and god bless gb news long may we prosper. what do you think? do you still love

your country mark@gbnews.uk very excited about my mart meets guest ten. it's the former brexit party mep, a good friend of neil's. it's i don't see arthur rees—mogg quite character she's live at ten plus the papers at 1030 but next up we'll speak to a man who knows him well . was a mistake to get well. was it a mistake to get rid of boris johnson?

stephen to welcome back to mark dolan tonight very excited about my mark meets guest after ten it's i don't see arthur rees—mogg former brexit party mep she's quite a character and she's got quite a character and she's got quite story to tell. also my take at ten monologue it's lot about weight loss. i might have about weight loss. i might have a solution that could change your life. and i'm not just saying that , so do stick around. saying that, so do stick around. but it's been that allies of bofis but it's been that allies of boris johnson have warned at rishi sunak that. a disappointing set of local

election results in may could prompt a bid to replace the prime minister with his previous speculation has ramped up in recent days the boris johnson could return as tory leader. was it a mistake to get rid of him in the first place? let's speak to lord stephen green. help who is a close ally of boris johnson , deputy mayor for london. lovely to you at lord green hall .thank lovely to you at lord green hall . thank you so much for your time. was it a mistake getting rid of boris johnson ? absolutely rid of boris johnson? absolutely i was . of those ministers that i was. of those ministers that resigned because boris resigned back in july was at one stage, along with eddie . the only we along with eddie. the only we were the only ministers left in the levelling up department. but we resigned when i resigned and subsequently had resigned . but subsequently had resigned. but we were the council heard, if you like, to the herd. so we believed that it was wrong that bofis believed that it was wrong that boris stepped down. but more importantly , the party members importantly, the party members think wrong that boris think it's wrong that boris stepped down. and there's a stepped down. and there's been a very there's been a lot of polling, particularly by

conservative that% polling, particularly by co members that% polling, particularly by co members want that% polling, particularly by co members want to that% polling, particularly by co members want to see that% polling, particularly by co members want to see boris) of members want to see boris back rather than as prime minister, rather than the sitting prime. i mean, that's that's that's very important. and, of course, we know when bofis and, of course, we know when boris when the weight room boris was when the weight room was up, boris know potential back in the back end of last yearin back in the back end of last year in october they were very clear they had a strong support within parliamentary party not a majority . they needed to get on majority. they needed to get on the ballot . so i majority. they needed to get on the ballot. so i think there's a strong case and i said earlier this week that as a strong probability that he will return . you know, boris johnson , does . you know, boris johnson, does he have the appetite for power still ? well, i don't think it's still? well, i don't think it's about power over, boris. i mean, he has a as a true spirit of pubuc he has a as a true spirit of public service, he wants to deliver . i found working for public service, he wants to deliver. i found working for him in city hall tremendous lead, fulfilling. it was the first time know work for to be in a council leader before then . and council leader before then. and he set out very clearly what he wanted me to do and i just needed you to get on with it. and perfect boss for and that's the perfect boss for me. a great me. i think he's a great political visionary. political leader, visionary. he

has soul of a and that's has the soul of a and that's what this country needs. but did that was that chairman role that was so successful city hall work successful at city hall work when he was at ten, where you have to be a little more thatcherite, you've got to be head of every department. didn't really suit boris did it. head of every department. didn't really suit boris did it . well really suit boris did it. well i think what boris doesn't require is that the structure around him and he certainly have that in in city hall with very strong chief of staff, very effective deputy mayors and you know, wasn't in the number 10 operation. but it's fair to say, i think that, you know , there'll be you know, there'll be improvements. but i would i'd say about boris's it's a second time the second time of asking he gets better and his second mayoral term in many ways was an absolute triumph and i, you know, i fully predict he will come back and get the structure right very effectively right to govern very effectively this we he's very good this country we he's very good at winning election lessons but do you feel that struggles with the bit in between running the country. do you really think there's an appetite on tory

backbenches to have him back, particularly after towards the end of his time at number 10 he was limping from one self—inflicted scandal another. l, self—inflicted scandal another. i, i don't agree with with with that comment of his first term. i think he made many of the big calls. right. and you know, i worked for michael gove a month ago first in saying that he was right about liberal easing and freeing up in the wake of the covid pandemic earlier than many wanted to . he was absolutely wanted to. he was absolutely right to be the first major western leaders to support ukraine with military aid , and ukraine with military aid, and for that they're going to be forever grateful and continue to look to britain for leadership . look to britain for leadership. and i know that's continuing under the current prime minister . do so . but boris, don't do that. so i think big calls think you got the big calls right and with right right and with the right structure around think structure around him. i think he's going to be one of the greatest prime ministers and we'll british we'll be assessing the british ministers century. ministers of the 21st century. but that second chance. but he needs that second chance. and a strong and i think there's a strong probability happen . probability that will happen. well, he has colossal qualities

, doesn't he? an excellent political judgement , political judgement, charismatic. he's a very, very clever man, of course. very well read . an amazing wordsmith . god read. an amazing wordsmith. god bless him for getting brexit done. he ended our brexit deadlock. and of course he he kept jeremy corbyn of number ten in 2019. so he's got his strength . what in your view , is strength. what in your view, is the percentage chance he would throw his hat in the ring if things work badly for rishi? sunakin things work badly for rishi? sunak in may ? well, i think sunak in may? well, i think that's a litmus test. the current prime minister , we've current prime minister, we've got to certainly look because of the first and foremost in politics, you've got to win. if you're not in government, you can't do anything, can't can't do anything, you can't achieve but we achieve anything. but we conservatives so conservatives believe in. so i think conservatives up and down the look at those the country look at those locals. now, i know my time. i spent 20 years in local government. you lose your government. when you lose your councillors lose seats, councillors when you lose seats, when that you when you lose councils that you previously lose previously run, you lose machinery ability to machinery and your ability to campaign. and so the sitting mp will then worry and then i believe will be a strong

movement for change. lord greene how you know boris johnson intimately, well does he want this? does he want to make a spectacular return ? well my spectacular return? well my assessment is, well , you know, assessment is, well, you know, he said wants to deliver for britain, but he'll only do it if people want him back. and i think we've got to coax him back and that we want him. and i know you to go is the i you don't want to go is the i think want to talk about. think you want to talk about. i want i love boris. i want this guy back 10. you know, guy back in number 10. you know, let's a boxing analogy. let's make a boxing analogy. he's the person the he's the person with the mandate. he 80 seat mandate. he got the 80 seat mandate. he got the 80 seat mandate. it was his campaign. he led campaign . and they want led that campaign. and they want to see him back where he belongs in number 10. okay very briefly, yes or no? i the grassroots would have back in a flash, would have him back in a flash, many viewers. but those many of my viewers. but those tory backbenchers, that's the ultimate stumbling block, isn't it ? you know what, when they it? you know what, when they start saying that the start saying that down the ballot , the ballot looking down ballot, the ballot looking down the of a gun and look the barrel of a gun and look like to their like they're going to lose their seats, think they'll many seats, i, i think they'll many of will their and of them will change their and we'll swell of

we'll see a strong swell of support the return of this man, lord stephen green hall, thank you so much forjoining us. next up, it's mark meats and my take it .

ten it's 10:00. ten it's10:00. and this is mark it's 10:00. and this is mark dolan tonight in might take it it's january and the country needs a diet it's time to battle britain's bulging waistline and i might just have the answer. it's a monologue that could change your life. my mart meats guest is former brexit party mep don't see arthur rees—mogg quite a character and quite a story she tells us in just a couple of minutes. plus tomorrow's papers exactly 1030 with paul. panel reaction . so much to get reaction. so much to get through. but first, the

headunes through. but first, the headlines with aaron armstrong . headlines with aaron armstrong. hello there. i'm alan armstrong . the gb newsroom the prime minister's indicated is willing to address nurses for more money and has declined to rule out reopening this year's pay deal. speaking to the bbc, rishi sunak , the nhs is under enormous and suggested much of that was down to the pandemic strikes by nurses and ambulance drivers are scheduled for later month. however, the royal college of nursing urged downing street to meet the union halfway in its demand for a 19% pay rise. the shadow health secretary, the wes streeting labour, couldn't afford that either . afraid i streeting labour, couldn't afford that either. afraid i did have to say to the nurses. however much i totally sympathise with their pay claim , we would. i would concur on, in all honesty, to say if i was in all honesty, to say if i was in government today, i'd able to give the 19. but we say we would sit down and negotiate. think that's the government

that's what the government should do. hundreds of supporters . brazil's former far supporters. brazil's former far right president, tire bolsonaro, have invaded the country's congress. supreme and presidential palace . it comes presidential palace. it comes a week after the inaugural action of the country's new left . of the country's new left. president lula da silva . president lula da silva. bolsonaro's extremist supporters are refusing to accept he lost october's election drawing comparisons with the january six storming of the us capitol . storming of the us capitol. following donald trump's defeat , president lula is currently on an official visit to the state of sao paulo , but says the of sao paulo, but says the rioters be held accountable . rioters be held accountable. ukraine's dismissed the russian claim that its forces carried a massive military strike, killing 600 ukrainian troops in the eastern city of kramatorsk . eastern city of kramatorsk. moscow claimed their attack hit two college dormitories serving as temporary accommodation for ukrainian personnel in retaliation for a strike killed dozens of russian soldiers on new year's day. while local residents say two explosions happened shortly after , russia's

happened shortly after, russia's self—imposed ceasefire was due to end, but no buildings were directly hit or damaged. and the mayor of kramatorsk has confirmed there were no casualties. the kremlin has offered no evidence or proof of its claims . international its claims. international travellers been streaming into china for the first time after it opened borders since . the it opened borders since. the start of the pandemic. incoming travellers no longer need to quarantine and chinese citizens are once again allowed to go overseas. however, the lifting of restrictions and changes to the country's zero covid policy coincide with the chinese lunar new year, leading to of a surge of covid cases . rural areas of covid cases. rural areas where medical facilities are scarce. some 2 billion trips are expected for new year . scarce. some 2 billion trips are expected for new year. hundreds of supporters . expected for new year. hundreds of supporters. hundreds of people have been protesting in central london in solidarity with anti—government demonstrations that have taking place in iran. protesters marched through trafalgar square

earlier chanting for justice for iran . yesterday, two men were iran. yesterday, two men were executed . the regime for executed. the regime for allegedly a member of the iranian security during demonstrations last year. human rights organisations described their trial as a sham instead for the moment. tv online and dab+ radio. this is gb news. but now it's back to. mark dolan tonight . tonight. i'm the only one that could listen to aaron armstrong all night long. well, he's back in an hour's time. it's10:00. and this is mark dolan tonight. it might take a ten. it's january and the country needs a diet. it's time to battle britain's bulging waistline and. it might just have the answer. my mount meets guest. i'm so excited. former brexit party mep. i don't see all rees—mogg. quite a story. quite a character. she's

live in just a couple of minutes. plus, tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030 with a full panel reaction tonight. journalist and best selling author hilary , political author hilary, political commentator and co—founder of conservatives against racism and for equality , albie connor and for equality, albie connor and the leader of ukip and, former tory mp neil hamilton . so much tory mp neil hamilton. so much to come. a really busy hour. don't forget those papers at 1030 sharp. but first, my take it . it's time 1030 sharp. but first, my take it. it's time to 1030 sharp. but first, my take it . it's time to battle it. it's time to battle bulging waistline . the nhs is not its waistline. the nhs is not its knees because of money. it's the biggest employer in europe and one of the most expensive systems on the planet . it's not systems on the planet. it's not because of covid that the nhs is trouble. yes, covid is a nasty virus, but non—fatal to almost everyone, even at its worst with the alpha variant ,

everyone, even at its worst with the alpha variant, a third had no symptoms . it's not even the no symptoms. it's not even the diverse city officers which are a colossal waste of money, but which are also a distraction in this debate. the nhs is knackered because we're knackered because we're knackered . the health service is knackered. the health service is no longer viable because of truly a appalling levels of pubuc truly a appalling levels of public health. with obesity , the public health. with obesity, the roof. worryingly now , among roof. worryingly now, among children and babies as well. we've got million people with type two diabetes a largely lifestyle related illness that was non—existent in 1950s. we dnnk was non—existent in 1950s. we drink much. many of us still smoke and our diets is a national scandal. smoke and our diets is a national scandal . but i don't national scandal. but i don't blame the public . we live in blame the public. we live in a toxic food environment where we graze day long on a hellish of processed foods . and now you processed foods. and now you don't have to walk down the street to them. this poisonous

slurry comes straight to our homes, pizzas burgers, soft drinks, muffins , chocolate bars, drinks, muffins, chocolate bars, ice cream cakes , you name it. ice cream cakes, you name it. now it's all lovely. don't get me wrong , but now it's all lovely. don't get me wrong, but it's killing us . me wrong, but it's killing us. it all started . in the 1960s, it all started. in the 1960s, when the now controversial us scientists and kiwis criticised natural fats and published flaky and partisan data which demonised red meats, eggs and full fat dairy. all the things that your grandmother said were good for you. well, your grandmother was , but she was grandmother was, but she was ignored . following a change in ignored. following a change in policy to go low fat high carb in the seventies and nineties. it was a gold rush for the food industry . we moved away from industry. we moved away from natural ingredients to products in boxes with a million ingredients. cereals breads. pasta, biscuits . bonanza of

pasta, biscuits. bonanza of wheat. sugar. rice and corn. except the low fat diet made all fat . to this day, in my view, fat. to this day, in my view, own nhs perpetuate the obesity crisis with its so—called eat well plate. which encourages people to have carbohydrates as their main source of energy . their main source of energy. this crazy dogma the western world has rates of obesity in the last few decades . and it's the last few decades. and it's bankrupting our health systems. why because obesity is linked a whole range of expensive treated ailments. joint problems, for example, with 35 year olds now getting new hips and knees. just think of the cost to the nhs . 35 think of the cost to the nhs. 35 year olds getting new knees . year olds getting new knees. obesity is a gateway . to type obesity is a gateway. to type two diabetes or heart disease depression. kidney issues , depression. kidney issues, dementia and most worrying

cancer. dementia and most worrying cancer . which is why it's cancer. which is why it's interesting that the highly respected medic, professor tim spector , has said that exercise spector, has said that exercise . and calorie counting don't make a blind bit of difference . make a blind bit of difference. if you want to get thin . in if you want to get thin. in a podcast this week in relation to exercise said we should all do it. we should all do exercise but absolute not. if your goal is weight loss. it's a huge myth perpetuated by gyms and fitness apps. he said and here is shocker the calorie counting although effective in the short term was complete nonsense because most people who adhere to the tedious regime bounce back. to the tedious regime bounce back . you know as well i do when back. you know as well i do when you calorie count the moment you stop not only do you put the weight back on but you put more on.and weight back on but you put more on. and that's the problem. in the end, if you listen to the likes of spector or dr. michael mosley, a good friend of mine , mosley, a good friend of mine, his new book, the fast 800 keto

diet, i'd highly recommend a similar plan. i lost three stone in no time . or how about this in no time. or how about this handsome devil ? dr. david unwin handsome devil? dr. david unwin , an nhs gp who slammed his patients down without pills and hunger. patients down without pills and hunger . the patients down without pills and hunger. the message is clear it's all about insulin . insulin it's all about insulin. insulin is the main fat storage hormone of the body. when it's high, we store get fatter. and when it's low , burn fat and get thinner. low, burn fat and get thinner. processed carbohydrates , bread, processed carbohydrates, bread, pasta, rice and even the so—called heart healthy whole grains and many fruits spike insulin rendering weight loss impossible and weight gain inevitable all live on a diet of meat, fish, eggs nuts, full fat dairy , vegetables, low sugar, dairy, vegetables, low sugar, fruits like berries and natural fats like olive oil and butter will keep that insulin down and the fat just melts . don't take the fat just melts. don't take

my word for it. former leader of the former deputy leader of the labour party was tom watson. he followed that protocol. he lost an amazing seven stone and he wrote a book about it . and the wrote a book about it. and the aforementioned dr. david has reversed the diabetes of 75% of his patients in year. he's reversed their diabete it's in a year and eliminated 93% of pre—diabetes in an even shorter time . how did he do it? by time. how did he do it? by getting them to ditch the carbs plus , he reports now that those plus, he reports now that those patients are slimmer and healthier too . obesity. if left healthier too. obesity. if left unchecked, will the lives of millions and will bankrupt the nhs tackle it and will be quids in. and those out of date medics will be eating their words .

will be eating their words. what's your reaction, mark, at gb news dot uk. what's your reaction, mark, at gb news dot uk . now let me say gb news dot uk. now let me say a couple of things, which is that you're going to change your diet and if you've got any concerns about your weight or your, i would you to consult your would urge you to consult your gp also i would say that gp first. also i would say that in relation to this low carb hydrate stuff, just inform yourself , look hydrate stuff, just inform yourself, look things up, speak to your medics , make an informed to your medics, make an informed decision . reacting to my take at decision. reacting to my take at ten, all my brilliant panel of leader ukip, neil hamilton, journalist and author hilary freeman, commentator . freeman, political commentator. hilary your reaction to this? i believe that if we tackled obesity so many of the nhs problems would disappear overnight . i think for the first overnight. i think for the first time ever with mishaps nearly 100% with everything you just said. wow in your monologue. i know. it's amazing. no, it's absolutely true. the epidemic is absolutely true. the epidemic is absolutely out of control . and absolutely out of control. and it's now got to the point where

it's now got to the point where it's normalised that people don't realise that there's anything wrong with their weight . they don't associate their weight with their health. and there's now things happening . there's now things happening. you talk about the knees. you talks , you know, 35. you need talks, you know, 35. you need knee replacements . there are knee replacements. there are also 35 year olds dying of fatty liver disease , which is unheard liver disease, which is unheard of . and that's a new thing of. and that's a new thing that's happening. you know, people get cancers and they all say, doctor, why have i got this cancer? something like kidney cancen cancer? something like kidney cancer, caused by cancer, which is caused by obesity and told is because of your weight and they had no idea, you know, they didn't even think overweight. so think they were overweight. so i think they were overweight. so i think normalised think it's become so normalised and got to do something about. you got you caught in a bit of trouble you were very controversial show with with an article that ran in the mail newspaper tell me more and i wrote a piece about five years ago now talking about the body positivity movement and how we shouldn't really be talking about obesity in terms of appearance . it was about how appearance. it was about how it's about and telling people

that it's okay to be obese , you that it's okay to be obese, you know, and you look great and you celebrate. it is not a good message to give people. well didn't you say that you didn't want your small child to looked after at nursery , an obese after at nursery, an obese teaching assistant. that's not exactly quite what i said . what exactly quite what i said. what i said was i was that the staff , a nursery. i went to look out for my daughter and a couple of them were obese and looked very unhealthy. and i was worried about their ability to run after the toddlers and. also just this, the messages that were sent and the sorts of fears of everything , the nursery as well. everything, the nursery as well. it just didn't strike me as a healthy message , but. okay, fair healthy message, but. okay, fair enough. now what we'll do is we'll get the views of albie ama and neil hamilton 1030 and conor and neil hamilton 1030 because a fascinating but let me know your . do you struggle with know your. do you struggle with weight have you tried different

diets . what do you think about diets. what do you think about this professor and what he's had to say ? full disclosure, i cut to say? full disclosure, i cut the carbs 2018 and i lost three stone, changed my life. but as i said, do your research and consult your gp. but we'll return to that very . very return to that very. very excited because next mark meats at its former brexit party mep nancy aka rees—mogg. don't go anywhere .

a big reaction to my take a turn. it's my view that britain's to battle its bulging waste line. i did it by cutting out the. michael mosley's books are brilliant. the diet doctor website . this from mary superb website. this from mary superb of how we've got where we are with obesity and diabetes said. this needs to be repeated . lee this needs to be repeated. lee ad on prime time. this needs to be repeated. lee ad on prime time . how about sir ad on prime time. how about sir dave? mark thank goodness someone is highlighting issue.

the food industry have been conning us for years. he recommends tim noakes as well. a very, very clever and interesting guy. top doctor there. ken, why are they putting adverts on with really fat suggesting it's okay to be like when we're being told to lose weight because, it's unhealthy. get of fatties off the get rid of fatties off the advert and stop promoting it. hi, mark, chris. massive hi, mark, says chris. massive benefits of keto is and it's so high energy levels and how much sharper your mind is. high energy levels and how much sharper your mind is . last but sharper your mind is. last but not least, andrew says hi mark in sixties at school we used to portray the germans as sausage eating fat people . how the times eating fat people. how the times have changed. we're the fattest europe. thanks, andy . there you europe. thanks, andy. there you go. well, look out that . debate go. well, look out that. debate will continue. we've been asking on twitter in our text poll . was on twitter in our text poll. was it a mistake getting rid of bofis it a mistake getting rid of boris johnson? an unprecedented response . tens of thousands of . response. tens of thousands of. and 69. yes it was a mistake. 31% said no. therefore what a perfect opportunity to talk to my next guest, because it is time for meats in which i speak

to the biggest names in the world of politics, sport, showbiz and beyond. tonight, the journalist finance writer and former brexit mep. i don't see utter rees—mogg. i only theatre my mark. great to have on the show. thank you very much for giving up a chunk of your evening . i'm kind of just pick evening. i'm kind of just pick up on that text poll. do you think it was mistake defence rating ? johnson i think defined rating? johnson i think defined as rating is the word. and yes, i think it was a complete mistake that he was the prime minister who had the mandate to lead our country. the minister who had the mandate to lead our country . the first two lead our country. the first two years of his administration asian were quite possibly the most impossible any prime minister has faced as they came onto the scene. no one knew what to expect and things changed in a matter of days at to disregard the strength of public vote that he had won in 2019, i think was a grave error. now told that you

became a cancer at the age of i think when you were eight, you were too young to join the young conservative actives. so you just joined the conservative party proper . why were you so party proper. why were you so sure this was the right philosophy for you ? i am . i was philosophy for you? i am. i was always a great believer in the freedom of the individual and helping those who really need it, but not a knows best state. i had the most wonderful nanny ever. i had the most wonderful nanny ever . my brother stole her and ever. my brother stole her and she now is known as his nanny. but she looked after me when i was child and was a wonderful presence in our lives. but i didn't feel the government should be telling us to do or how to do it . but if that's what how to do it. but if that's what you thought you were five, that might suggest you were brainwashed . i'm from a family brainwashed. i'm from a family who have very debates and. i was allowed to choose which side want to end up on. no one could brainwash any of us . and on crt,

brainwash any of us. and on crt, why did you back brexit? for very reasons that i felt it had been done under false pretences in the first place, that they original vote had not us. we were going to end up in full political union. it had been purely for some financial benefits along the trade lines that the british public had never had a say in it, that it was not. and it was deeply interfering in our way life and how we had to obey rules in this country . how do you feel that country. how do you feel that brexit is playing out? do you have any brexit bias regret because you've fantastic pedigree as a finance writer , a pedigree as a finance writer, a journalist on economic matters . journalist on economic matters. yes, and of course some talent for figures is within the family. it's not great at the moment, is it? so are we going to wait for these brexit

benefits? oh well, no. where in the world is the economy looking great at the moment? i wish it. but we are between the payback for big spending on covid. the term reliance on cheap loans and cheap money. and of course, the awful situation in ukraine and the invasion by russia , let the invasion by russia, let alone china , not fully reopening alone china, not fully reopening to trade . the world economy is to trade. the world economy is not in a great place that , is not in a great place that, is not in a great place that, is not brexit's fault . in fact, the not brexit's fault. in fact, the uk because we haven't been paying uk because we haven't been paying in to the european union is well over 100 billion better off that those who never wanted us to leave want us to now think that every problem our country faces is the fault brexit. well, it's simply not true . indeed. so it's simply not true. indeed. so do you think that rishi sunak the right man to make the best of brexit? he was a brexit supporter and showed some

political courage in backing brexit. given fact that at the time his boss was arch remainer david cameron . there are many on david cameron. there are many on the tory who don't really feel his heart's in it. i think there's many in the country who feel that i hope he proves them wrong that i don't think the tory backbenchers have necessarily shown way it's his judgements to this point . but judgements to this point. but all i can hope is rishi proves that he is the man to take us through the rest of brexit there is so much to do not sorting out northern ireland, but getting rid of all the ridiculous laws that came in under the auspices of european at that has to be changed and if and when it is, i we will have much greater opportunity to run ourselves and be a more prosperous nation another rees—mogg me on this program. i can't remember which one. not nearly as clever as you told said that that rishi sunak

had been a rubbish chancellor, a poor chancellor. do you rishi sunak as prime minister or i don't believe in big government. so the idea that i would suddenly support rishi sunak telling us to eat out and he'd pay telling us to eat out and he'd pay for it on the government bill, which we have to remember is every single taxpayer is pennies going into that and costing us out of our own daily spending . no, i don't think he spending. no, i don't think he the best decisions as chancellor. i think there was also a huge amount of fraud which has not been recovered under various covid help schemes . it was right to put out support to certain sectors and people in particular succumbs dances. but the carte blanche approach that the treasury took, i think was an erroneous one. speaking of your your principles, your belief, individual personal freedom ,

individual personal freedom, personal responsibility . well, personal responsibility. well, would you take the view that lockdowns mask mandates vaccine 7 lockdowns mask mandates vaccine ? mandates were and mistake . the ? mandates were and mistake. the proof will be in the pudding and figures are still coming out but from i've seen so far the swedish for example did far better than any of the countries that try to lock up its citizens as hard as possible. and if we just look to now the absolute thatis just look to now the absolute that is sweeping through because they locked down so hard that there is no immunity in the wider community and now it is rife and killing people. i it's i'm not a scientist. i'm going to claim to be, but i think morally, it's a very questionable thing to ask people to live isolation and. also, you are an economist and there was no cost benefit analysis of lockdowns, was there ? and lockdowns, was there? and unfortunately, it seems the sage

advisers didn't listen to the university of bristol, for example, who early in the pandemic predicted half a million people would die because economic damage and this is something people don't realise. the link between , the health of the link between, the health of the economy and, human health and longevity incredibly linked but and also to mental health and i haven't yet seen the figures on what were going to be higher suicide rates. domestic abuse rates certainly it's talked about to some extent at the time . i haven't seen the the time. i haven't seen the final outcomes, but i think the damage that it did, individuals lives economically, socially and mentally was really traumatic. now, i think could make a rich contribution to the house of commons and public life had a couple of goes at becoming an mp. would you like to try again ? are your ambitions going forward and on theatre ? well, i forward and on theatre? well, i did say once before that i had absolutely no ambitions to

return to politics and unfortunately i got such a terrible state of affairs under theresa may complete pletely ignonng theresa may complete pletely ignoring the british people's democratic will that i felt i had to. but i i'm so happy not be in parliament at the moment i think it is a viper's nest and be a horror a world particularly for women with social media and physical attacks going on mps actually face quite an unpleasant workplace and i'm glad i'm not with them . anuncio glad i'm not with them. anuncio to rees—mogg join us in the studio soon. i would love to . studio soon. i would love to. thank you so much, mark. great stuff. great chat. there you go. your reaction mark@gbnews.uk. we've got the papers .

next well, at this time we always look at tomorrow's papers . and look at tomorrow's papers. and let us start with the guardian and they lead with the following pm looks at one off cash offer to end nurses strike risks . to end nurses strike risks. sunak opened the door to a pay deal for striking nurses . deal for striking nurses. ministers meet health unions for talks tomorrow with the prime minister signalling for the first time a willingness to address demands for help with the cost of living . as the cost of living. as i predicted in my big opinion , a predicted in my big opinion, a deal that appears be in the offing. by the way, the strikes the topic of my big opinion monologue excellent monologue which are excellent to. our digital team have crafted into a video on twitter at gb news. props to connor for that do it out. care homes double fees to take on nhs patients and the metro. now king puts on a brave face, not a spare in the world. nice, nice headune. spare in the world. nice, nice headline . king charles has headline. king charles has smiled through the pain . further smiled through the pain. further damaging revelations prince harry, which have left his older

brother william, we are told with anger. but terms of king charles, the show must go on financial . are on the move. financial. are on the move. beijing opens travel gates there you go the chinese will now allow foreign visitors to come into china spelling the end of what i would suggest a doomed experiment to control virus. let's have a look now have we got the mail, greg? i think we do. daily mail and how about this, harry? my family helped drive out meghan prince harry tonight accused fellow royals of being complicit in the pain and suffering on his wife. in a bombshell interview to plug his memoir, he suggested they helped to trash his and meghan's reputations following excuse me, forcing them to move to california . also, there you go. california. also, there you go. isn't it funny ? talked about it isn't it funny? talked about it in our take it ten. lose a stone in our take it ten. lose a stone in full . dr. michael mosley's in full. dr. michael mosley's new fast 800 keto diet. i'd recommend i don't own shares in

michael mosley, but i wish i did . the daily star caveman bald cure. yabba dabba had eggheads say they can cure slap heads after a caveman gene which us grow hair that is prehistoric say the stuff with a bit of much needed levity . let's get needed levity. let's get reaction now from my panel of albie amankona , who is a top albie amankona, who is a top political and very good friend . political and very good friend. this show always compelling , this show always compelling, very wise in what he's got to say. we also have neil hamilton, who is the leader of ukip and political commentator and agony aunt hilary freeman. so folks let's get to some of these big and potentially i'll a deal in the offing with the nurses i thought the mood music from the prime minister's interview this morning with laura kuenssberg telling no not giving the nurses their money not a political hill to die on for the pm it. well i

think we'll have to wait and see what the political hell to die on is prime minister, you? i've always been very clear that i think the prime minister should hold firm when it comes to pay demands from the unions. demands coming from the unions. because cannot we because we cannot we simply cannot busting cannot food inflation busting pay cannot food inflation busting pay rise is of the things i pay rise is one of the things i thought interesting thought was interesting this week we the all week of course, we saw the all clear and say that they would accept i the rise that accept 10. i think the rise that the independent body the independent pay body recommended was 4.75. so there could be a landing zone in between that 4.75% and 10% that the government could land and that the rcn can land on. so we can prevent the strikes and get people healthy again and nurses working again. albie amankona exchange for some modernise zation accepting more efficient practises and better use of technology. don't you think that ought to be the theme of these negotiations? whether it's the nurses, posties or the rail nurses, the posties or the rail drivers? i think it absolutely be the theme of all negotiations , but actually it should just be the theme of how we run our

pubuc the theme of how we run our public services organisations anyway. yeah because in the private sector they have to innovate, they have to be efficient in order to be profitable and there's no reason why we shouldn't be taking the best practises from the private sector and implementing in the pubuc sector and implementing in the public sector. so we get more bang for our buck. neil hamilton public sector. so we get more bangwould r buck. neil hamilton public sector. so we get more bangwould you ck. neil hamilton public sector. so we get more bangwould you handle hamilton public sector. so we get more bangwould you handle these lton public sector. so we get more bangwould you handle these wage how would you handle these wage demands? settle with demands? would you settle with nurses? would you say to nurses? what would you say to mick ? what you say mick lynch? what would you say to the school to the posties? the school teachers, servants , teachers, the civil servants, the grave diggers? copley and all, and well, i agree . news all, and well, i agree. news presenters. yeah of course. we are the ones who if go on strike and nobody takes a blind notice because we're self—employed , because we're self—employed, right. so we can't force our customers to pay us more than they're willing to pay. that's difference, of course, in the pubuc difference, of course, in the public sector, because ultimately it's politicians who call the shots. and if they weaken. then you know you can get what you want and this , i get what you want and this, i think, sunak's thatcher moment perhaps not in quite the way you were thinking earlier on because in 1981 thatcher gave way to the

miners because she knew we couldn't withstand a miners strike then at that time. but the next three years they prepared getting the coal stocks out of the power stations in those heady days. and we had we didn't have problems of energy security . just it out of security. we just dug it out of the ground. but in those days , the ground. but in those days, of course, we did a much, much bigger problem with the unions than we have now, because they then had all sorts of legal, which are no longer exist , but which are no longer exist, but arguments all about supply and in the real world do , you need in the real world do, you need to pay your workers more in order to recruit them or retain them. and i think there is an argument actually for nurses. there's of nurses and there's a shortage of nurses and probably the only way to get the kind of numbers that we need is to improve their wages to how the sectors. and that's actually what should ultimately decide who gets what is really much. are they in demand and how money we've got to pay them. hillary is a great with this industrial action is the prime because he's

still fresh in job but we just don't really know how he's going to handle it. i mean he said he'll stand up to the unions, but it's his first big test, isn't it so and i think you know he's he's got to get the country behind him because if he you know he knows that our tories are going to lose the next election because catastrophically and then he's going to take the blame. and i know that you're broadly sympathetic to those who are seeking a better wage. and actually so i, i think that the vast swathes of the public and private sector need a pay rise . private sector need a pay rise. my argument is we've completely destroyed the economy, so it's not going to be now. otherwise have inflation, which is bad for everyone pay everyone. well, there's a pay rise and there's a living wage, isn't there? and we've got nurses foodbanks , you nurses going to foodbanks, you know, we be is the know, we should be is the greatest enemy, not inflation, doesn't doesn't that trump everything else ? well, i don't i everything else? well, i don't i don't i don't think it does, actually. i think the most important everybody in this

country that you live country that how you live without your health, you've got nothing. so i think we need to have a health system that works on and we can so everything else out after did you make of conservative mp lee anderson who said this week that if you're a nurse that's using a food bank on a salary of 2830 nurse that's using a food bank on a salary of 283 0 £2,000 that on a salary of 2830 £2,000 that you need to have a look at budgeting . i think he's probably budgeting. i think he's probably not living in the real world because if you're earning 28,000, you probably take home about 17 or 1800 pounds a month and you're paying rent in london, let's say that's your entire salary . your bills are entire salary. your bills are probably about £400 a month just for you. tenancies. i mean you're not earning enough to live on. what do you think about that by lee anderson that comment by lee anderson because himself and because he defended himself and said previously in his life he's he's much less money and he's been on much less money and just essentially made ends meet . yes but long ago was he . yes but how long ago was he on? much less money, i think that that is the core question .

that that is the core question. and i actually i feel if and i actually agree. i feel if you're thinking about a london i'm 28 or or 30 k, that is really not a lot of money if you're paying rent or even paying you're paying rent or even paying a mortgage and then having pay for anything else, notwithstanding . nonetheless, notwithstanding. nonetheless, lee does a point then actually probably a lot of cost of living issues can solved by better household budgets and maybe the population necessarily have the skills of household budgeting in order to organise their finances in the most effective way . yes. in the most effective way. yes. i mean, has the invoking of food banks become highly politicised? is it a political football now? has it been weaponised? neil well, of course it has and it is being weaponised. these disputes and the idea that nurses have to go to food banks and be very extraordinary set of households circumstances nurse who's circumstances for a nurse who's earning more than the average wage in the country, whether it's london or anywhere else in the country, is having to go to a food when the vast majority people don't. what always amazes me if i go into hospitals, see

how many nurses there are who are they may not be obese, but certainly overweight. maybe they're kind of mobile food banks. so they're walking hospitals, but it's you know, thatis hospitals, but it's you know, that is nonsense. you know, nurses on average are paid more than the average worker . nurses on average are paid more than the average worker. this country i'm not disparage nurses obviously it it's a tremendously difficult stressful job and i certainly wouldn't want to do lots of things that nurses have to do. but ultimately, it's a question of supply demand, as i said. and if we need more nurses and we need to pay more in and we need to pay them more in order to, attract more people in the profession, that's we've got to the money to to do. but where's the money to come somebody come from as somebody to make that at end of the that choice at the end of the day, last exchequer has to day, the last exchequer has to decide the decide who gets what amongst the different departments different government departments . more for the . so there's more for the department probably department of health probably is going for something going to be less for something else . maybe hs2 should be else. maybe hs2 should be scrapped briefly. briefly you can you mentioned obesity and the nurses lose a stone in four

weeks michael mosley's book is making as has my take it tonight all about obesity. i think if you tackle you fix the nhs what's your view. i'll get i didn't get a to hear what you think and i'll be so neil well i certainly need to lose a stone so it's all muscle and i heard that christine loves every inch of the wall the better . don't of the wall the better. don't say how many inches this , but say how many inches this, but it's well i'm certainly intrigued by by that and i i'll i'll take a leaf out of your book wouldn't change a thing about you but i'll be all i've got to say is i look at you, i 90, got to say is i look at you, i go, right, i want some of go, right, i just want some of what had. oh, gosh. well, what you've had. oh, gosh. well, thank i think thank you very much. i think what young people call buff. oh, well i don't know that. well i don't know about that. tell to the boys tell that. tell that to the boys of on the 10:00. serve of london on the 10:00. serve what i will say on know obesity. i just we need to get that simple message of eat less, move more everything in moderation and just live healthier and you go a sensible message indeed . go a sensible message indeed. well, let me tell you that that

interview with prince harry has come air and we will get an exclusive reaction next. don't go anywhere .

well, let me tell you that the bombshell interview with prince harry on itv has finished airing. and here is a clip . i airing. and here is a clip. i love my father. i love my brother. i love my family. i always do nothing . what i've always do nothing. what i've donein always do nothing. what i've done in this book or otherwise ever been any intention to , harm ever been any intention to, harm them or hurt them ? you know, the them or hurt them? you know, the truth is something that i need to rely on and many, many years of being told about me and, my, my family , there comes a point my family, there comes a point where, you know, again, going back to the relationship between sutton and members of the family

and the tabloid press , those and the tabloid press, those sutton members have decided to get into bed with the devil . get into bed with the devil. wow. well, richard fitzwilliams is a top royal who has watched . is a top royal who has watched. so you don't have to. hi, richard hello richard. what's all the take away moments . this all the take away moments. this interview , you say what stands interview, you say what stands out ? what stands interview, you say what stands out? what stands out is that? harry is someone who is on quest . terribly, extremely . there is . terribly, extremely. there is absolute , no doubt. and this absolute, no doubt. and this comes out time and time again. and you've just played clip of it. it's an with the feeling that senior royals almost certainly beating his father and his brother. it's a very, very tough interview when it comes to

comments about william are colliding with . the press colliding with. the press especially tabloid press, and it was the pressure from that and the results of that that forced him and meghan who are anxious to serve to leave britain and essentially it's a giant conspiracy theory that is course a great deal about but that . to a great deal about but that. to sympathise so one does with the tragedy of her loss something that i think huge talent buried to come to terms with. he does seem to give credence to conspiracy theories his feelings of is great deal more come out but so far as the royal family are concerned and this will go round the world it will make the institution seem and kate and so far as is concerned they sibling rivalry . there's no doubt that rivalry. there's no doubt that it deeply sad extremely negative

. do you think that this couple can down the royal family oh absolutely not. but they feel and i would suggest that they are the ones who feel entitled . are the ones who feel entitled. that feeling is that the royal family has to accountable for its in the way it relations with them when they were senior working royals. they therefore must , in a working royals. they therefore must, in a sense, apologise it had me wondering, quite must, in a sense, apologise it had me wondering , quite frankly, had me wondering, quite frankly, we don't know precise , steve, we don't know precise, steve, where they are going in future years but that be used to somehow a springboard for meghan in the possible role of the democratic party politician. or they could be philanthropists , they could be philanthropists, but there's little doubt of power in the half of this top bradley being occasionally least somewhat worried by harry as a bit of an obsessive, but nonetheless , we're all nonetheless, we're all sympathetic. nobody anything about marrying twice about lying

in cooperation . the book finding in cooperation. the book finding freedom , meghan's passport being freedom, meghan's passport being taken and so forth which is almost certainly nonsense . but almost certainly nonsense. but this questionably shows that they're at war with , the they're at war with, the monarchy and we have to see whether there's any response between the this and for other interviews going out in the united states which where it is aimed from the you are a keen royal richard do you think that king charles's policy of dignified silence work ? i think dignified silence work? i think it's probably the only option . it's probably the only option. clearly when the queen addressed what she considered what extreme and mysterious allegations made on oprah the allegation that was a racist member of the royal. although harry disputes specific use of the term and talks about unconscious bias , this comes up

unconscious bias, this comes up . she talked about some recollections may vary of this has become part and parcel of the case of those who don't believe everything the sussexes say . but insofar as believe everything the sussexes say. but insofar as king in options, i don't think it's humanly possible . go through humanly possible. go through those point by point . and the those point by point. and the other thing that one has to say, where is proof for all these conspire said is led by the are seen as an enemy and the palace colluding with it and the palace being essentially father, his brother and there's not a particularly flattering portrait of catherine . i fear the whole of catherine. i fear the whole thing very, very negative . but thing very, very negative. but insofar as actually it removing titles is a matter for. bullying allegations they nearly came up meghan denies them of course. could that proposal which the palace publish find its way in

rumours that doesn't come up here that they have a 25 page document to rebut it. it's very to see what else the role family can do a dignified with the coronation of the come in may. will attend. will they be asked what precisely they be doing and indeedis what precisely they be doing and indeed is their intention . and indeed is their intention. and indeed is their intention. and in the future this is a very damaging book. my copy arrived yet, but obviously i've read the extracts and this is a extremely nasty and i had no idea that the supposedly brothers that the relationship between them sounds corrosive . well it will indeed corrosive. well it will indeed it's very sad . we've got another it's very sad. we've got another clip, richard. let's take a look . i want reconciliation . but . i want reconciliation. but first, they needs to be some . first, they needs to be some. you can't just continue to say to me that i'm delusional and paranoid with all the evidence is stacked up because . i was is stacked up because. i was genuinely terrified about what's

going happen to me? and then going to happen to me? and then we 12 month transition we have a 12 month transition penod we have a 12 month transition period and everyone doubles down. my wife shares her experience , and instead of experience, and instead of backing off. but if the institution and tabloid media in the uk both double down. briefly if you can, i've just got a couple of seconds left. how you see this? sorry saga playing out . i see is simply more trouble. and at the end of it, there are reports recently that meghan is planning a memoir. so i see no at all. and incidentally i have to make the point that when it came to reconcile the action, when tom bradley pushed him well, he said he wouldn't be discussing it publicly. would have to be done privately. well, it's nice to know that harry thinks some things should be privately. it doesn't out in this interview much. it doesn't. and this has been a fascinating

interview, a lot more interesting than the one on itv, richard fitzwilliams, thank you very for time . we'll very much for your time. we'll catch again in the near catch up again in the near future with my panel future. with me, my panel reacting to that, itv have added the explosive harry interview. prince speaking to his friend tom bradby . prince speaking to his friend tom bradby. hillary freeman and interview softer than mary berry's buns . you're not going berry's buns. you're not going to arm as well as , top writer. to arm as well as, top writer. i mean, this a human drama as well, isn't it. yeah. and i actually actually feel very for harry now because . i think he's harry now because. i think he's pushed himself into a corner and i don't think there's any way back for him. i don't think he as really understands what done in terms of the relationship with his family now the military and the military as well. really turned his back on everyone. i saw something that saying some of his friends were planning to his former friends were planning to come out with stories now. and i just think he's he's under

influence and i think he's just lost his way completely. i feel quite sorry for him. well, some yes or no answers. quite sorry for him. well, some yes or no answers . a few yes or no answers. a few seconds. neil hamilton should be granted invitation to the granted an invitation to the coronation . and should coronation. and should he keep his titles ? well, i certainly his titles? well, i certainly think shouldn't invited . think he shouldn't be invited. coronation, because there's great that they'll be great danger that they'll be booed if they come . but in booed if they come. but in a world of tsunami, trivia , world of tsunami, of trivia, this and truth of the this is and the truth of the matter is, he's a spoilt brat who's never bring ball number two into the number and he two into the number one, and he should himself together, two into the number one, and he shoul shave. 1imself together, two into the number one, and he shoul shave. yeah..f together, two into the number one, and he shoul shave. yeah. maybeher, two into the number one, and he shoul shave. yeah. maybe we'll get a shave. yeah. maybe we'll send him a fairly shave. what do you think? i'll should he be invite katie to the coronation? and should he keep his titles? look what, i want to see is a reconciliation in the royal family. i would love the duke and duchess of sussex to be in a position at a point with their families where they could come to the coronation and happy. to the coronation and be happy. i'm sure . that's going to i'm not sure. that's going to happen, given what's happened in the last i completely the last year. i completely agree. hilary. i'm agree. i'm briefly, hilary. i'm agree. i'm briefly, hilary. i'm a worried about this kid. actually and if you think about the catherine caroline flack

story, tv took her own life. god forbid that should happen. but we have to be careful with harry, don't we? something appalling doesn't happen . that appalling doesn't happen. that is something that i've seen people talking about . yes, we people talking about. yes, we can go on tv and we can go. he's a numpty and he's this and he's that. he has personality here. and you're a bit of a student of human nature. he's not a well bunny, is he. no i definitely think that he has he has mental health issues . and i think he is health issues. and i think he is he's he's lost his way completely. yeah. and you can see his eyes, don't you see it in his eyes, don't you think like face is think it's feel like his face is so drawn and, washed out. yeah. maybe should get proper maybe he should get a properjob that sort him. that might that might sort him. that might do it. maybe he should help you at ukip. well we are . that's at ukip. well we are. that's what i say . hey at ukip. well we are. that's what i say. hey i haven at ukip. well we are. that's what i say . hey i haven for, at ukip. well we are. that's what i say. hey i haven for, for people who got all sorts of problems , but not used to, don't problems, but not used to, don't have. problems, but not used to, don't have . is the brilliant neil have. is the brilliant neil hamilton one of my favourite

contributors to the show? thank you, neal. thank you, albie. thank hilary and thank you for your wonderful company. all evening and all weekend. i'm back friday at nine, but stick around because doing headlines.

hi there. good evening i'm howard armstrong in the gb newsroom the duke sussex has accused his family getting into bed with the devil to rehabilitate their image and accused the king of sacrificing harry's interests in favour of his own . in harry's interests in favour of his own. in his first harry's interests in favour of his own . in his first broadcast his own. in his first broadcast interview promoting his controversial memoir on itv, prince harry insisted family have been briefing the press for well over decade, including stories about him and meghan. he also accused senior royals of being complicit in pain and suffering. he and meghan were experiencing. and in the conflict media created, you know for the last however many years.

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