fri day friday tonight on average, we discuss can the private sector help the nhs get rid of some of the awful 7.1 million backlog? we'll talk about energy prices. why are household bills still as high as they are? we'll talk about low traffic neighbourhoods and the restriction on driving coming all over the country . on talking all over the country. on talking points, i'll be joined by the country's most famous pawnbroker . and from 8:00, a one hour

royal special should harry be sacked after what he said and what he's done? but before all of that, let's get the news with polly mendel, host . nigel of that, let's get the news with polly mendel, host. nigel thank you and good evening to you. our top stories tonight. health unions say talks with the government about pay have done nothing to persuade them to call off strike action planned for this and next week. the royal college of nursing described the meeting with the health secretary as bitterly disappoint , pointing and insult. nurses , pointing and an insult. nurses in england are planning industrial action on the 18th and 19th of this month and staff in england and wales walk out on the 11th and 23rd while the health secretary has announced the government will block book bedsin the government will block book beds in care homes so that around two and a half thousand people can be released from hospital when they're medically fit. it's one of a number of measures included in the government's emergency response to discharge delays rising flu

and strep a cases . speaking in and strep a cases. speaking in the house of commons, this afternoon, steve barclay admitted the experience of staff and patients over the last few weeks hadn't been acceptable and ministers must do more. weeks hadn't been acceptable and ministers must do more . earlier ministers must do more. earlier the government announced up to £200 million of funding over the next three months to ease the pressure. now, in the last hour, the chancellor has announced new plans to support businesses with energy bills. with five and a half billion pounds worth of funding . we've already set up an funding. we've already set up an £18 billion programme for businesses . one of the most businesses. one of the most generous in europe . and today generous in europe. and today we're announcing a further five and a half billion pounds programme for next year. lower because gas prices have come right down. but i am concerned that even even the wholesale price wars are lower than before putin invaded ukraine. a lot of businesses have yet to the benefit of that in the bills they actually pay. so i am also asking ofgem to do an investigation to look into the

market to see whether it's functioning in the way it should . that's the chancellor jeremy hunt , . that's the chancellor jeremy hunt, speaking there. now, prince harry has made further claims against the royal family in a series of interviews to promote his memoir, spare , which promote his memoir, spare, which will be on the bookshelves tomorrow . he told itv's tom tomorrow. he told itv's tom bradby his family was complicit in the pain and suffering experienced by himself and his wife. but he says he is still open to reconciliation with his father , the king and his father, the king and his brother, prince william. the level of planting and leaking from other members of the family means that, in my mind they have written countless books . written countless books. certainly millions of words have been dedicated to trying to trash my wife and myself to the point of where i had to leave my country . like the distorted country. like the distorted narrative is that we wanted to leave, to go and you know , make leave, to go and you know, make money. and finally, the wales captain gareth bale has announced his retirement from

the club and from international football at the age of 33. bale is the club's most capped player with 111 appearances over 17 seasons. he wrote on instagram that he feels incredibly fortunate to have realised his dream of playing the sport he . dream of playing the sport he. that's it. you're up to date on tv, online and dab+ radio with gb news the people's channel, where now it's time for fresh . where now it's time for fresh. good evening. well, the national health service is in a very serious crisis. now, there are some voices that say, ah, but nigel, if you look at sweden, you look at germany, you look france. they too have got problems with their health provision. well yes, that's true. however, none of them have increased the amount of money they're putting into the health service rate we have over service at the rate we have over the few years for what appears

to poor delivery . but outside to be poor delivery. but outside of nurses strikes , all of those of nurses strikes, all of those debates now we've now got 7.1 million people wait in for medical treatment of some kind. it is a truly staggering and i think very worrying figure. so what's to be done? what is the approach of our two main parties to this? but it's fascinating because we're streeting who i think is cutting quite a dash in terms of being a spokesman on behalf of the labour party health. he's putting what seems to me to be some quite fresh thinking for the labour party. you always think of the labour party as believing in the state, believing in the ability of the state through taxpayer money to deliver . but state through taxpayer money to deliver. but he's state through taxpayer money to deliver . but he's suggesting deliver. but he's suggesting with keir starmer support that. actually what a labour government would do is to use the private sector which it sees as being underused , closed and as being underused, closed and use that to farm people out to get procedures done, to try to bnng get procedures done, to try to bring that waiting list down.

yet again with the conservative party. what's their view on private health? well, have a look at this quick clip. a prime minister, rishi sunak, yesterday when he was asked whether he himself has private health care provision . are you registered provision. are you registered with a private gp and are you still. yeah, but my dad was a doctor. i grew up in an nhs family . my question is pretty family. my question is pretty straightforward . where are you straightforward. where are you registered with the private gp as a general policy? i wouldn't ever talk me or my family's health care situation, but again , it's not really relevant to this. what's relevant is a difference i can make to the country . why don't just tell the country. why don't just tell the truth of it ? what's the problem truth of it? what's the problem with it ? why don't just say yeah with it? why don't just say yeah , actually, you know what? my does have private health cover. and by doing that, we're relieving some of the burden off national health service. no, he can't bring himself to do it. my debate this evening in the first part of this programme is on labour right to see the private sector as being a way of helping

to cut these waiting lists. let me know what you think. barrage at gbnews.uk. i actually think they've got this right. well i'm joined by graham stringer mp for blakely and broughton . graham blakely and broughton. graham wes streeting is potentially a star of the future mill in the labour party. i think is brilliant on the floor of the house of commons. he's not been in the house very long, but the house pays attention to him on both sides because he addresses problems intelligently and analytically i don't always agree with him, but the house recognise his ability and i think on the nhs he is seeing some radical things and most of which i would agree with what we've got to remember. and he used the word the nhs isn't a shrine. we've got to remember the nhs a practical projects to provide and universal healthcare free of charge at the point of need paid by the taxpayer . so need paid by the taxpayer. so

everybody gets sick when they need to and that isn't happening in that sense. we haven't gotten a notice at the moment for the 7 million people on the waiting. yes, the people are waiting hours in a&e, the nhs doesn't exist. so i think it's quite if you watch the opposite of what was he saying , could you watch the opposite of what was he saying, could i you watch the opposite of what was he saying , could i say to was he saying, could i say to one of my constituency who needed a hip replacement or other operation. yes i don't believe in the private sector. you stay in pain for 12 months because of my ideological views. i wouldn't be prepared to say that to a constituent if there was a way of buying capacity either in this country or that the relieves such a person of and provides obligation that the labour party has and government should have to provide health care when it's needed . then i'd care when it's needed. then i'd pay care when it's needed. then i'd pay that money. yeah it's funny, isn't it? because actually, as you say, the point of the nhs is that health care is free at the point of delivery. yes, the system that it isn't

system that delivers it isn't really the point is it. it isn't the point. i personally. yeah i'm politician, i'm a labour politician, i believe in the public sector. i think it should work and often does work more in a more coordinated way with the democratic institutions in this country . when you've got the country. when you've got the private sector delivering , you private sector delivering, you sometimes got different priorities . but the key point sometimes got different priorities. but the key point is people should get health care when they need it. yeah the private sector, of course there is very quick to adapt. you know, sees there is demand , know, if sees there is demand, it can more quickly, it can move more quickly, perhaps than a state run organisation. so you know, maybe if government if a labour government does these they can start to these things they can start to be surprises. think be actually surprises. think about , i be actually surprises. think about, i would be actually surprises. think about , i would say it be actually surprises. think about, i would say it as a short term measure blair did, if term measure tony blair did, if and complained because the waiting lists went down unlike what they've been doing for the last few years, which is skyrocketed . and for those that skyrocketed. and for those that choose pay for private health insurance , it's funny, isn't it? insurance, it's funny, isn't it? sunak couldn't answer that question. pathetic absolutely pathetic. margaret thatcher had

no difficulty. she said she was asked the question that he was us. if you have private health care, she said, yes, i choose to spend my money as i choose to spend my money as i choose to spend my money as i choose to spend my money. and the it i mean, the argument that i've always made grahame is that actually be actually we should be encouraging people who can afford to private afford it to take out private health insurance because that relieves the burden on the national i see that national health. i can see that argument. completely agree argument. i completely agree with i think that if you with it. i think that if you want universal service, it is better . if it is good want universal service, it is better. if it is good enough so that everybody uses it and uses the benefit of if you alternative structures in a big way , then there is a limited way, then there is a limited amount of kit equipment . there amount of kit equipment. there is a limited amount of trained surgeons , nurses and you begin surgeons, nurses and you begin to detract from the nhs just because of the size of . the because of the size of. the people who have the procedure in a free country. people, i mean

people should be able to make that choice. yes, yes absolutely. no, absolutely no. i agree with you. you know, i think that come clean think that should come clean now. interesting. tolstoy's now. very interesting. tolstoy's media, sky , media, in conjunction with sky, are producing of figures are producing lists of figures of employees outside earnings and donations and gifts to members of parliament. by the way, folks not suggesting for a moment this is like the european parliament. but i suggesting the suit case is this issue of mps seconding in comes one or two mp is earning a lot of money. where do you stand on this? i think there is a problem i don't think it is as usually portrayed is the fact that theresa may, who is not a particular very good prime minister, is a very good backbenchen prime minister, is a very good backbencher, as it turns out that earning more than 2 million a year , i don't think it's about a year, i don't think it's about the quantum . i don't even think the quantum. i don't even think it's about the time. i think it's about the time. i think it's there is a conflict of interest . if i go to see interest. if i go to see government ministers very regularly to say government

policies are bad for bad for business in my constituency, usually the regulatory regime is burdensome and difficult . they burdensome and difficult. they want to change how and i think that's part my job as an mp if i go in that industry paying me whatever thousand a year, then i think i'm not fit well to do my job. and this is other in paterson. i'm not free to do my job because who am i representing my constituents who want jobs or am i representing the business who want profits ? the business who want profits? yeah, that must be the problem. yeah, that must be the problem. yeah, there must be no conflict. now, these donations are very, very interesting. it would appear qatar, since the appear that qatar, since the last election, have given away getting over last election, have given away getting ove r £300,000 in gifts getting over £300,000 in gifts to various mps , all sorts of to various mps, all sorts of lobby groups on immigration, elsewhere . and one particularly elsewhere. and one particularly interesting one, you know, one organisation mp , pm connect, who organisation mp, pm connect, who appear to have no staff, no

website at an office where they're not known have given big sums of to . money evict cooper sums of to. money evict cooper wes streeting king and dan jarvis , i'm not suggesting for jarvis, i'm not suggesting for a moment that he corruption here , moment that he corruption here, but it's pretty opaque, isn't it? yes i only read it. somebody sent me . that's news piece about sent me. that's news piece about 2 hours ago and they asked me , 2 hours ago and they asked me, did i know about it? the answer was no, no. but i think in all these things, transparency is these things, transparency is the issue. who is actually sending the money? those that's obviously accountancy to send it, and it's coming from somebody else. we should know who that is and we should not have foreign coming into the guhan have foreign coming into the guitar. race laughs yeah . the guitar. race laughs yeah. the qatari stuff doesn't look good. does it? doesn't about that. that's wrong. yeah graeme stringer, as ever, thank you for your thoughts. and there what a funny old world, isn't it, when the labour party can embrace using the private sector to get using the private sector to get us out of this mess and the tory

party appear to embarrass party appear to be embarrass almost ashamed it and almost ashamed about it and moment. let's talk about your energy bills what this channel has done to help some people and i'm going to ask that question again why given the price natural gas our domestic bills as high as they are .

what are your thoughts on whether labour are right to say they use the private sector to reduce that backlog. chris says labour are right on nothing even labour are right on nothing ever. well, chris, that may slightly close mind. you know, even your opponents at times they'd like it seems to be get things right and i've never been a labour supporter i think they are right in the way they're talking about this . even if, as talking about this. even if, as graeme stringer wanted, it's a

short term measure . 7.1 million short term measure. 7.1 million people on that waiting list is very bad news. david says . yes, very bad news. david says. yes, the private sector should used to fast track the waiting lists. it would appear that sunak and starmer have policies. david the conservative party is now since brexit, an eu style social democrat party , there is democrat party, there is absolutely no doubt it. and laboun absolutely no doubt it. and labour, i mean not only talking about using the private sector, but rachael reeves, the shadow chancellor, saying she has no intention of putting income tax rolls very much for the moment at least being reversed. john says the nhs is not fit for purpose . time it was privatised purpose. time it was privatised .john purpose. time it was privatised . john you would not find a huge amount of public support for that view and by the way, using the private and privatising the nhs are two different things. ultimate attlee in time we should a debate i think about whether our taxes go into an

insurance style policy, whether that might be a more efficient way of doing it than the money going into the central part. but right now, the country i don't think is ready for that. what they want remedy to these they want is remedy to these waiting lists . now, we've been waiting lists. now, we've been talking about energy bills . do talking about energy bills. do you over the course of you endlessly over the course of the last months, have i said to you a few ago what we discovered extent which people are extent to which people are paying extent to which people are paying increased direct debits that are in excess of the bills they actually owe . we said to they actually owe. we said to you, if you as viewers of this programme, contact your energy provider. don't get satisfactory answers. come to us. and i got just a sample of the emails we've just had back this one from neil had my provider on the phone this morning pretty contrite money coming to me. plus a £100 compensation and thank so much we got this in from michael just received a phone call from i can't name the companies but from my provider

as a result of your contacting them we they will not taking a direct debit for this month they've offered me 60 quit in compensation which i'm very happy with i will be sending me a letter of apology . and finally a letter of apology. and finally from pauline she says yes. it was after nigel that i rang my provider . i was after nigel that i rang my provider. i have an was after nigel that i rang my provider . i have an electricity provider. i have an electricity account . i asked what the account. i asked what the balance was. i was told i was £970 in credit after . my balance was. i was told i was £970 in credit after. my bill was paid. i told them i wanted a refund of was paid. i told them i wanted a refund 0 f £770 was paid. i told them i wanted a refund of £770 and also required a reduction of my direct t 0 £100 a reduction of my direct to £100 a reduction of my direct to £100 a month instead of 204. they did it straight . i did mention that it straight. i did mention that nigel farage on gb news had said it was my right to revoke for you.so it was my right to revoke for you. so some of you using our name to push the case others of you coming on to us, and we will write on your behalf and do that and if we can help with that.

that's good news. but what we are struggling with and i mean really, really struggling with debt vince joins me from eco egocentricity . we've been on egocentricity. we've been on this program before i read your you're a huge advocate of green energy and the arguments about that and pricing but help me me the price of oil is now down to $86 a barrel. the price of natural is down to ,75 per kilowatt hour . whilst that's kilowatt hour. whilst that's higher than it's been in recent years , it's lower in both those years, it's lower in both those cases. the fall putin invaded ukraine as a supplier. can you help me by telling me why our household bills are still so blooming high ? yeah. so there's blooming high? yeah. so there's a lag in the system . and since a lag in the system. and since ofgem introduced the price cap, which updated every six months, they've now changed that every three months they have a methodology for the price cap which assumes a certain way of

hedging, buying forwards, the whole market. now buys energy forwards to the timetable that ofgem calculates it. so three months forwards. so there's going be a lag of those three months between a drop in the wholesale price and the next price so now about wholesale price and the next price cap. so now abou t £4,000 a price cap. so now about £4,000 a year january, annual average year in january, annual average come april, that's to drop to about 2500, something like that. and also come the summer, it's going to drop to thousand in april and 2000, something in the summer. so it'll be half what it is today in six months time. but that's because energy companies have to buy forwards. they can't. do have to buy can't. but do they have to buy forward? i think forward? well, i think so, because a massive because otherwise it's a massive gamble. you know, 30 gamble. and you know, 30 companies bankrupt just 12 companies went bankrupt just 12 months ago because they hadn't bought big boost bought for taxpayer a big boost . so much money. so much money. and they bought and that's they haven't bought forwards quicksort on green energy . now you were forwards quicksort on green energy. now you were being paid on green energy on the basis of the gas price when the gas price was through the roof that was a bit of a nonsense it but we

don't sell green energy to anybody else to our customers. yes. but we don't wholesale energy. we weren't making energy. so we weren't making money out that. we were money out of that. we were avoiding a big for avoiding a big cost for ourselves from the stuff that we buy from other people. but but it is crazy. the market needs to be reformed allowed be reformed because we allowed the generated the price gas generated electricity to set the price of everything else nuclear, renewables, everything why renewables, coal, everything why madness? it's a market mechanism that we have to change. we allow global markets to tell us what to pay ourselves for. sea gas. gas made here it went up to ten times its value during the crisis at the peak to what normally paid for it. and we let global do to gas global markets do that to gas made here we shouldn't allow that either. mean we've that either. i mean we've suffering we've been suffering you know we've been suffering you know we've been suffering for many years now , suffering for many years now, not just at a domestic level. but in an industry level with energy much higher than most of europe and double or even more than double america. another industrial competitors, i mean , industrial competitors, i mean, what are we going to do looking

strategically? this does matter . it getting cheaper energy matter. what are we going to do to do that? the only way we can solve the energy crisis, the price crisis permanently is to switch to renewable energy hundred% well, high velocity and that's all well and good, but massive subsidies have gone into renewable , particularly wind renewable, particularly wind farms in past. so right now, onshore and solar need no public money. if the government were to change the planning to give them an equal footing to forms of energy, we could all the energy that we need, we have enough and sun power the country sun to power the entire country . so this year when the wind blow. no no but that's a balancing issue. and national grid we can run the grid say that we can run the country 100% on renewables. so i think some credibility think there's some credibility there. we'll spend there. this year we'll spend £150 billion on our electricity bills . it's £150 billion on our electricity bills. it's madness is ten times what they used to be. if we were powered by the wind and the sun would be spending billion pounds and that's crippling our economy. we get off of economy. we have to get off of fossil. we have to have the back

up when. the wind doesn't blow. we storage coming through we have storage coming through grid storage, different grid scale storage, different methods charge methods are leading the charge at moment . methods are leading the charge at moment. expand methods are leading the charge at moment . expand that at the moment. expand that working. they're working commercially at moment and commercially at the moment and we have the smart grid, which is about balancing demand from industrial homes every industrial users and homes every minute the day using smart minute of the day using smart metres technology that metres, a high technology that stuff is coming at the moment. we dumb demands, we have we have dumb demands, we have huge and troughs huge peaks of demand and troughs of national grid are of demand. national grid are confident country confident we can run the country 100% energy. well, i have 100% on the energy. well, i have to say know i have looked at to say you know i have looked at this whole battery storage issue you know for over 20 years. there's been a debate about this. and at the moment, don't think commercially viable. this. and at the moment, don't think you�*nmercially viable. this. and at the moment, don't think you feel rcially viable. this. and at the moment, don't think you feel ?ially viable. this. and at the moment, don't think you feel ? mean.able. this. and at the moment, don't think you feel ? mean. i)le. this. and at the moment, don't think you feel ? mean. i know how do you feel? mean. i know you are an advocate, a believer in green energy. i'm far more sceptical . you? i get it. as you sceptical. you? i get it. as you suggest. i just object to the tens of billions of taxpayer money that's been put into it over the last couple of decades . where do stand on nuclear . where do you stand on nuclear energy much more energy? it's much more expensive. it eats of billions more public money than renewables have and will do for a very long time, because we to

actually deal with the radioactive waste as well. i think the what we have we should keep and we should use it as we transition into 100% green energy. we shouldn't be building sizewell the one. right. sizewell the next one. right. okay give but at least, okay it does give but at least, you know nuclear energy. you know with, nuclear energy. exactly what it's going to give you in ten years from it you in ten years from now, it might online . it's not might come online. it's not going to help us unless . these going to help us unless. these rolls—royce small reactors work on a nightmare, a proliferation of mini nukes around the country . well, i tell you what , public . well, i tell you what, public opinion is moving in that direction they are always good to have you on the programme. we don't see eye eye on don't quite see eye to eye on this, but i want cheap this, but look, i want cheap energy. i don't care what source it comes through and if it can come through renewables, that's fantastic . and in one day maybe fantastic. and in one day maybe we will have right battery storage and it really will work. not yet. he is my view. in a moment. let's about low traffic neighbourhoods talk about the ulez extension . let's talk about ulez extension. let's talk about the plans in canterbury and indeedin the plans in canterbury and indeed in oxford . i would be

indeed in oxford. i would be getting to have locked towns in cities in terms of how we can use our cars and is there anything we can do to fight back .

life is becoming a nightmare for britain's 37 million motorists. more and more of us getting caughtin more and more of us getting caught in speed cameras. but what's on in london and the debate our other big cities is even more disturbing. low traffic neighbourhoods. what are they all about? well the aim is by 2041, 80% of all trips will be by active or sustainable modes. they basically want just a cycle. yes, i think that's what it's really all about and don't want us to use our cars. and of course there are adaptations for cycling that can work, but in many cases it's not practicable . but it's a real practicable. but it's a real battle that's going on and it's

not just on low traffic neighbourhoods where alan miller from campaign , from together, great campaign, we've together on a couple we've been together on a couple of these issues. you had a protest yesterday in london against low traffic . now i come against low traffic. now i come in through south every day as i go through parts of damage i see house after with signs no two low traffic neighbourhood . yeah. low traffic neighbourhood. yeah. who is closing all these streets down and why are they doing it. yeah what is interesting. so initially it was boris johnson that started with the first election and one of those on this cycle, that cycle it's dominated by a kind net zero notion, but it gets on us. so what's happened is that now the government has given some incentives to local authorities . local authorities have now jumped it with technocratic fervour . and jumped it with technocratic fervour. and have earned a lot of money from low traffic neighbourhoods. now what's actually happened when they've consulted with local businesses and is and businesses is disproportionately the majority of them have rejected them, they don't want them even on their own. should stop pollution.

own. they should stop pollution. they move around. they they just move it around. they cause huge can't cause huge you can't get through. and basically more through. and it's basically more tax movement . so we did the tax on movement. so we did the lta and no chelsea ends in haringey, which is getting a lot of response and reaction at the moment . there's three out ends moment. there's three out ends that people have furious all different segments of society. see, we've seen that the board now actually in ealing residents have businesses got them to u—turn on it i mean ended ripping them out. so actually by standing and stamping defeated it sensibly, peaceably ealing proves that you can get it rethought. the other plans i mean we'll stick with london for the moment as you know, i live on the north downs, right? it's a rural area , villages and yet a rural area, villages and yet lady my local pub , it's going to lady my local pub, it's going to cost th e £12.50 to go by the cost the £12.50 to go by the newspapers of a morning. i'm not going to pay the charge because i've got a new car. but pensioners are those who can't afford new cars. i'm going to be racking up 1250 a day. a lot of tradespeople rethink what they do . i mean, is there any way we

do. i mean, is there any way we can stop this? because it seems that calm is dead set on doing it. the climate change lobby are behind them and calling himself has said that the conservative transport department view the idea with positive liberty. yeah well i think the thing is the i think city can't it as a legacy project six councils have already come out in opposition it including bexley bromley we've seen that they've been very resolutely opposed to it. we also know over 60% of residents and businesses again are opposed to it. talking about huge section over 2 million people in the outer of london and this is why i think it's really important that people get in this together. we're providing a kind of portal of different you and your cross—party a no policy. exactly. yeah. you know, also it was important we about we really this is a question firstly about democracies why we say take back democracy. these things are being imposed by stealth sadiq khan actually a chair of c40 khan is actually a chair of c40 cities. if people look at it a

bit more, this kind of bit more, there's this kind of nofion bit more, there's this kind of notion they would they're notion that they would they're going to impose these things regardless. in the regardless. in fact, in the mayor's it actually said mayor's office, it actually said they're that. they're going to do that. interestingly, they've interestingly, nigel, they've got hearing in the next got a budget hearing in the next couple days. there's still time to them. and for londoners to email them. and for londoners in particular, have our voice heard. but also people as you say, just on the outside, they're going to impacted. they're going to be impacted. how support you on this, how do we support you on this, the it is coming the way you do it is coming together, declaration, talk. the way you do it is coming togetito declaration, talk. the way you do it is coming togetito our:laration, talk. the way you do it is coming togetito our twitter1, talk. the way you do it is coming togetito our twitter app k. the way you do it is coming togetito our twitter app together come to our twitter app together you get involved. we've got you can get involved. we've got local groups we're going you can get involved. we've got lo

they've said is they're going to allow a year, which allow 100 passes a year, which in its own terms you're like, what have decided what what have you decided that what if two cars? but who if you've got two cars? but who are these technocrats to make these decisions and oxford is really because only really telling because not only have this, is have they done this, this is allegedly the aliens allegedly trial like the aliens who allegedly at there who allegedly at trial there were businesses oxford now were businesses in oxford now that going down that have that are going down that have been years. east been there for 30 years. east oxford doesn't have in oxford doesn't have things in its facility. interestingly it's always the poorest the always the poorest areas. the impact it worst. now they've impact it the worst. now they've got on january 24th, there's going to be a in the council chambers because they've got further proposals white for it nurses and are going to have impositions both on parking and cars coming in. this is utterly outrageous and i think that's why as together we've got residents , signatories and residents, signatories and members in oxford and oxfordshire and we're asking of the house not only why they doing this to and be why have they rejected the idea that so many have said we don't want it, but also, will they have a pubuc but also, will they have a public debate with us? we want

to a public discussion, a town hall type. get them out. yeah, as i say, if people want these things, that's fine. in a free society, they can have but society, they can have them. but it's being imposed it's it's just being imposed it's crackers. it is the new crackers. but it is the new religion as we up on religion as we give up on christianity , we embrace the christianity, we embrace the religion greta thunberg and we believe by all these things we will save our planet. all the while the chinese build a new coal fired power stations every alameda. good luck with this campaign you whether you agree with on or not he's right with that on or not he's right about one thing we should have a full public debate on these issues changes made issues. big changes are made people's lives now the what the fringe moment came yesterday stonehouse a three part docu drama put on last week by itv. it was about john stonehouse, who literally left his clothes on a beach in miami, faked his death and headed off to australia. he a labour member of parliament, he did many other dreadful things and yet this was the headline that was run in the i couldn't actually quite

believe it. john stonehouse paved the way for today's tory mp. he's only he didn't get away with it. well bad luck guardian . i know that in your mind's you think everybody on the right is truly evil but stonehouse was i'm sorry to say a labour mp so we then got a corrected headline which didn't match it, or based but you know when you very, very tribal politics you start not just disagreeing with the other point of view, you actually hating the other person . it is hating the other person. it is all wrong and it's a mistake . hating the other person. it is all wrong and it's a mistake. in all wrong and it's a mistake. in a moment, i'll be joined by james constantinou . he is, of james constantinou. he is, of course, the most famous pawn and broker in this country. 51 programmes on channel 4. he's been shown around the world. i wonder, do you know what pawnbroker is? do you know what they really do? because they're slightly back in fashion. all of that in just 2 minutes.

slightly back in fashion. all of that in just 2 minutes . coming that in just 2 minutes. coming up on dan wootton tonight as harry goes nuclear on the whales , the queen consort and above all else, the british media, tom recruits the country's most insightful royal commentators, including sarah tom bower and lady colin campbell, to make sense of duke's international hate campaign . plus, nigel hate campaign. plus, nigel farage weighs in on radical new migrant plans. farage weighs in on radical new migrant plans . and will sturgeon migrant plans. and will sturgeon succeed in bringing back face masks ? join. done. 9 pm. to 11 masks? join. done. 9 pm. to 11 pm. on gb news news.

a it's time for talking points. yes it's that time that i before i introduce my guest let's see him in action on the channel 4 series passport prestige is a pawnbrokers with a difference

whether it's a helicopter or diamonds. i get a real buzz out of handling big ticket items . of handling big ticket items. this is an amazing becky based in one of the uk's wealthiest counties with a roster of super rich clients of hardly use and they deal in the most lucrative in luxury goods. the value is about 150 grand. this week. oh, my god . the team battle to dodge my god. the team battle to dodge the fakes these aren't real. the boss hits the mad. flatow i'm telling you as hundred miles an hour, telling you as hundred miles an hour , the good old days, it's hour, the good old days, it's flat out here, says james, constantly . you, james well, constantly. you, james well, good to talk thank you. very good to talk thank you. very good to talk thank you. very good to have you on the program. now, east envoy . yep . not to not now, east envoy. yep. not to not a great school career or anything like that . no problems anything like that. no problems . yeah, but interestingly, there are quite a lot of people who become entrepreneurs that didn't fit in with what they were expected to do. but you tried

all sorts of different businesses and you had some as well. but you know, we think of pole broking. i think of dingy dickensian streets people on the edge of starvation , you know, edge of starvation, you know, pulling their very last possession to stay alive . and it possession to stay alive. and it kind of seems to me that the whole industry of pawnbroker had been utterly shrouded in secrecy. why you get into pawnbroker? well me, the industry was quite exciting i mean, the opportunity to just look at all the different assets that come in and when i first started, i wanted to be a high end pawnbrokers that hadn't been donein end pawnbrokers that hadn't been done in england before and that appealed to me. and just the thought of touching all those wonderful and exotic so let's go back to basics , those that don't back to basics, those that don't know how does a pawnbroker work? okay basically, it's very simple . and that's one of the things that drew me to the business is. the client brings the item to us. we will appraise and we will

lend a percentage of its value, usually between 50 and 70% of a second hand value. the money goes into the client's account. they have months which they have seven months in which to back . they pay it to pay it back. they can pay it back time within that seven back any time within that seven month it's a pay as month period. and it's a pay as you go. so if you pay the loan back in month one, you'll pay month's month to your month's interest month to your pay month's interest month to your pay interest pay two months interest at the end seven months. if you end of the seven months. if you do not pay the interest you and the capital, then we will go to sell your item. it usually sell with your item. it usually ends auction and it will ends up at auction and it will be we will recoup our money be sold we will recoup our money in residue the funds will go in any residue the funds will go back to the client. so i've got a watch that's worth ten grand. i come to you, i say in james ballard up at the minute, need some money short term the watch is worth roughly ten grand. you lend me seven grand. i've got seven months to an interest rate of. well, right so 2.9% per month and you know the pawn broking gets a bit of flack on their to be honest, quite honestly i'm a per annum, it's a lot of money but if you wanted

to borrow 100 grand from me and you wanted it for a month, it cost you 2900 quid. i don't. there's anywhere that i know of in europe that you can borrow 100 for 2009 a and 100 grand for 2009 a and typically , who are your typically, who are your customers? they from all customers? they come from all walks life life, to be honest walks of life life, to be honest with they we've got wide with you. they we've got a wide spectrum of clients. we aim ourselves the high end of the industry obviously, and we have a lot of business people that are struggling at the moment wages cost living feel . all the wages cost living feel. all the usual sense is coming to a pawnbroker, a final act of desperation, i don't believe, is for the reason i just gave you about the interest rate. i mean, we need short term cash. let's say short term cash. yeah. i mean, it's to take a fortnight to make a decision. well, this the problem that we're hearing and, it's a common theme, to be honest with you. if you had six months to organise your loan and you had a wonderful bank manager that sun shone that fought, the sun shone out of bottom, you might of your bottom, then you might you manage. know, you might manage. you know, it's a good old days, a little in the good old days, let's say. yeah. and have

let's say. yeah. and you have that sort relationship, then perhaps you would organise or structure a loan, but if you only needed for one or only needed a loan for one or two or three months, then two months or three months, then you might think about us genuinely as a great alternative. we're quick with fast. we can do it in 24 hours. the money's it. there's no hidden fees. a simple daily hidden fees. it's a simple daily rate . and what sort of rate. and what sort of possessions, what are the most unusual things, people? well, i mean, we've all sorts of stuff. i know, of it's i don't know, you some of it's been covered on the show. we've seen trains, helicopters, seen some trains, helicopters, aeroplanes. quite aeroplanes. but to be quite honest you, probably of honest with you, probably 70% of what jewellery and what we do is jewellery and watches. to be fair , we do a lot watches. to be fair, we do a lot of leather goods. chanel hermes i mean, we had a bag come in last week. it was 200 grand. it's a lot money. so yeah , it's a lot of money. so yeah, but you came into , fairly or but you came into, fairly or unfairly , what was perceived to unfairly, what was perceived to be a sleepy industry . and before be a sleepy industry. and before you know it, channel 4 are knocking your door down and you make this serious and you make 51 episode ads of posh paul. what was that like to . well, it

what was that like to. well, it was a whirlwind. so because you couldn't actually believe it was happening. so, i mean, they came in and they made the one hour pilot and i thought, well, is great for the business because, you know, it puts us out there because advertise well because they advertise well of the what we were the problems with what we were doing no one. nobody doing is one no, no one. nobody knew it existed. they knew it existed. so yes, they had the of all. although had the peace of all. although the wine collection. yeah but they were still struggling for raising capital the raising to raise capital the good is it good thing about the show is it put there and the phone put us out there and the phone started ringing. channel i think it nerve with. what it touched a nerve with. what was going economically the was going on economically at the time. forget we started in time. we forget we started in 2009, you were immediately 2009, so you were immediately opposed to crash. that's opposed to lehman crash. that's right. similar right. so we're in a similar sort of scenario to what we are in be quite honest. in in now, to be quite honest. in fact, what we're going see is probably going to be a lot worse. i they had the worse. so i people they had the need for the they wanted to borrow the money the press liked the story . it was a great story the story. it was a great story for them. channel 4 wanted to commission a show and i all just really was about for us. really was about timing for us. and were the company and we were the right company emerging the time in the

emerging at the time in the right sector. but to make 51 programmes, well, i mean , you programmes, well, i mean, you must have had them living with you. well they were. they were they were they were embedded with me for about three or four years clients. we cut years to be clients. so we cut next to them. but yeah, it was incredible. but i mean, was it was as well. you know, was exciting as well. you know, we world, we did we travelled the world, we did some stories. it wasn't some great stories. it wasn't always me even always about me or even sometimes asset. mean sometimes the asset. i mean issues for those of people that have a lot , it issues for those of people that have a lot, it is have seen the show a lot, it is about individuals and the about the individuals and the compassionate stories that sort of filming . of emerged through the filming. people have all sorts of problems also coming from all walks of life. now, i'm in a fascinating thing today. now, you know, you've got a series of shops that you've opened up shops now that you've opened up around london, you around the country, london, you name . you're also talking name it. but you're also talking now about luxury goods and about kind of repair post products. tell us about that. well, the pre—loved pre—loved pre—loved , pre—loved pre—loved pre—loved, that's what it's called. yeah. i mean, it's very that whole sort

of scene of buying something that's already been, you know, is already in the market and the climate and the, you know, the environmental , all aspects. so environmental, all aspects. so it's you something that could be relatively old or very old. it's been bought , sold a few relatively old or very old. it's been bought, sold a few times over the years . that's what a over the years. that's what a pre—loved item is. yes i mean, yeah, that's that's basically it . i mean, someone could we've had people come in and i bought it last week from harrods and they bought it and, and they need to cash in. so it's or it's been gifted to them and they are some of the items are ineffective. in effect, new to be honest with you. so can i come to and sell you an item we buy sell most of our stock . our buy sell most of our stock. our onune buy sell most of our stock. our online stories bought and sold. so only a very small percentage of people do not retain their line. so 85 of 85% of our loans get redeemed. yes. so 15% of our clients don't come back. it's quite a small percentage . but quite a small percentage. but you but but you're buying selling the thing. i would buy and sell anything, any luxury. i

can come in to you and say, you know, want borrow against know, i want to borrow against this want to you this. this or i want to sell you this. what? absolutely. usually the day and how works. how day and that's how it works. how fashion, shops you got. fashion, how many shops you got. there nine stores, which there were nine stores, which just opened one just around the corner from bank of england corner from the bank of england on street opposite corner from the bank of england on wool street opposite corner from the bank of england on wool market.t opposite corner from the bank of england on wool market. that osite leaden wool market. that although is flying new store in in richmond on thames just about to open soaring king street in manchester. yeah, it's going well i mean for obvious reasons you know . so the loan books are you know. so the loan books are climbing at the moment i think is absolutely fascinating . why is absolutely fascinating. why do so little about this? do we know so little about this? but yes , you've done the channel but yes, you've done the channel 4 series, but why? there's still a perception that this is back to dickens's england or am i wrong? i think so. wrong? well, i think so. i think, you know, that's one of the reasons i wanted to get into i couldn't actually believe when i couldn't actually believe when i first started researching the sector, online and sector, when i went online and i saw the sort beige saw all the sort of beige websites with little gold websites with the little gold fob, of all boys? one fob, which of all boys? no one doing any stuff? yeah and doing any sexy stuff? yeah and i suppose it was. mean, i'm suppose it was. i mean, i'm passionate cars and i had

passionate about cars and i had some friends that were so all relative. it was a one dealer, so it was i thought, i can put this together. and it was in my nature. yeah, i'm an entrepreneur. i you know, i'm not scared of trying things and i worked, you know, i took a bit of time. i'm i can't i can't lie. i can't say. i opened the door and it was it was mainly about getting the name out there about getting the name out there about what we did. i think that was the biggest problem. now we're known. known as the we're known. we're known as the uk's lender uk's leading lender in that sector the end. what sector at the high end. what next you. oh, well we're next for you. oh, well we're just happy brokering more just happy we're brokering more stores. so i i'm i mean, i like to be in control, so i don't know. i'm not looking to go, hey, i a really easy boss. i'm not. i'd like to keep it quiet. to be honest, i think we can open another or 15 stores in the uk. we get offers from abroad for franchising and licencing and all sorts far off and wonderful places, but for now, for the next 2 to 3 years, i see industry growing tremendously in this country . obvious reasons.

this country. obvious reasons. and is this big in america. europe as an industry i think what we've done . the uk is quite what we've done. the uk is quite unique in terms of the high end sector but it's i think you know that there's other companies in other places around the world that doing that some of the shows. well it's been shown. but you know , and i think people you know, and i think people have looked at will have a go at that and i don't blame them to be quite honest with you. fascinating james, thank you for joining me. thank you, guys. enjoyed it thoroughly. cheers . enjoyed it thoroughly. cheers. okay, we've got 2 minutes left. it's time for barrage. the barrage mc asks , do you think it barrage mc asks, do you think it is unusual for brothers to fight with each other? no why? i can assure you one of my brothers and i have had a lot of fights over the years and some of them, you know, beyond the age of 18 years old. and he brothers

james. yes, i've got one. he did suffer at the hands of his on a number of occasions. yeah what is unusual what is unusual is have a fight with your brother and then to publicise it to the world. and that is what is i think so distasteful and so horrible and so awful. pam asks , have you made a health change for the new year ? pam the honest for the new year? pam the honest answer really ? no. i have said answer really? no. i have said i have said i'm going to do more than i did last year. have said i'm going to do more than i did last year . and i than i did last year. and i probably last year did a lot more exercise. and i was doing five years ago. so i'm trying maybe not as hard as i should, but i am actually trying new year's resolutions. james i've promised i'm going to take at least two holidays a year. i don't know if that's the resolution, but i'm going to try. and i think. for a hardware entrepreneur. yes. yeah but you know, phone still rang, went know, the phone still rang, went 100. i'm always on very the

problem is that although with a mobile phone know which wasn't there 30 years ago, you can tuck it in your speedos, right? you go it in your speedos, right? you 9° ' it in your speedos, right? you go , oh, the budgie smugglers or go, oh, the budgie smugglers or whatever it may be . a viewer whatever it may be. a viewer asks, will ever answer a policy question and tell us what he'd actually do , what he might do, actually do, what he might do, and then he might just change his mind. i mean, you know, this is the man who didn't just support remain, he was quite passionate about it, campaigned avidly for a second referendum and then has the gall to stand in front of the country and say, let's use the phrase take back control , but that he's what control, but that he's what career politicians all about . career politicians all about. they're about they're about rank , they're about title . and , they're about title. and that's their motivation for being in it. and they're very, very happy to be blown around by the win. well, that's the end of the win. well, that's the end of the first hour. i'm back with

you june eight and nine for a special a royals special. we'll ask the question , should harry ask the question, should harry be sacked ? because i think he be sacked? because i think he should. i don't he's right to be fit to be to be, you know, in line, to be out of the throne before all of that. let's get the weather. this is alex deakin king with latest weather king with your latest weather update the office. update from the office. fairly 50993l update from the office. fairly soggy choose state, a blustery day as well, but it won't be quite cold as it has been out quite as cold as it has been out there today. low pressure dominating to the north this one arriving, bringing the rain tomorrow in between a little bump in the ice. but a little ridge, high pressure. that's where we are at the moment which means most of us dry for the time being. there are still a few showers over parts of north—west england certainly north—west england and certainly northern scotland. northern and western scotland. but however here but are easing off, however here comes the rain from that next weather system spreading into south—west england, wales and northern ireland. by dawn. the winds picking up well will winds picking up as well will bnng winds picking up as well will bring air ahead of it bring milder air ahead of it with cooler conditions. we see some pockets of frost, particularly in northeast england and especially northeast

scotland. but for most it'll turn wet quite quickly on tuesday morning and that rain is going to be and persistent going to be heavy and persistent over of wales and over parts of wales and northwest england. we've had a lot of rain recently, so this extra up could cause extra topping up could cause some met office some. we do have met office yellow in place parts of eastern england heading a little drier through the afternoon along with northern ireland. it going northern ireland. it is going to be milder than today. be a milder day than today. obviously feeling all that obviously not feeling all that pleasant and rain. pleasant with the wind and rain. but temperatures into but temperatures getting into the wind will be the teens, the wind will be particularly parts of particularly gusty over parts of wales england , wales and western england, especially band of rain especially as this band of rain swings through the day. swings through late in the day. clear follow and do the showers and that's where left with on wednesday. a mixture of sunny spells and showers lots of showers packing into the west probably not too many further east a decent over eastern england northeast scotland that most the day will dry. but most of the day will be dry. but even the brisk winds, even here on the brisk winds, the showers plenty the showers will arrive. plenty of showers further west of heavy showers further west and it will be a cooler day again , up and down quite a bit again, up and down quite a bit this week, 7 to 10 celsius. and again, feeling colder than that

because of the gusty winds and the fairly frequent showers. so lots weather systems on lots of weather systems on almost on repeat this week showers wednesday this next weather system brings more persistent thursday . persistent rain on thursday. back showers on .

fri day friday okay . a royal special one hour okay. a royal special one hour on the question harry be sacked he is fifth in line to the throne. he still has a dukedom. here's what he's done . here's what he's done. completely and utterly beyond the pale i'll debate that with a great range guests over the course of the next hour before that, let's get the news with parliament last. nigel thank you

and good evening to you . health and good evening to you. health unions say talks with the government about pay have done nothing to persuade them to call off strike action planned for this and next, the royal college of nursing described the meeting with the health secretary as bitterly disappointing and an inqu bitterly disappointing and an insult . nurses bitterly disappointing and an insult. nurses in bitterly disappointing and an insult . nurses in england are insult. nurses in england are planning industry action on the 18th and 19th of this month and ambulance staff in england and wales will walk out the 11th and the 23rd. well, the health secretary announced the government will be block beds in care homes so that around 2500 people can be released from when they're medically fit . it's one they're medically fit. it's one of a number of measures included in the government's emergency response to discharge delays and rising flu as well as strep a cases. rising flu as well as strep a cases . speaking rising flu as well as strep a cases. speaking in the house of commons this afternoon, steve barclay admitted experience of staff and patients. over the past few weeks had not been acceptable and that ministers

must do . earlier, the government must do. earlier, the government announced up to £200 million of funding over the next three months to ease pressure on the nhs and within last hour the chancellor has announced new to support businesses with energy bills. with five and a half billion pounds worth of funding for businesses . and we've for businesses. and we've already set up an £18 billion programme for businesses. one of the most generous in europe . the most generous in europe. today we're announcing a further five and a half billion pound programme for next year lower because gas prices have come right . but i am concerned that right. but i am concerned that even even the wholesale prices are lower than before putin invaded ukraine. a lot of businesses have yet to see the benefit of that in the bills they actually pay. so i am asking ofgem to do an investigation to look into the market to see whether it's functioning in the way it should . well, in news today, prince harry has made further claims

against the royal family in a series of interviews to promote memoir spare , which is going to memoir spare, which is going to be on the bookshelves tomorrow. in an interview with itv's tom, he accused his family getting into bed with the devil to rehabilitate their individual images. he insists his family's been briefing the press for well over a decade, including stories about him and meghan . prince about him and meghan. prince harry says he's open to reconciliation, but claims an olive branch has not been forthcoming. well they've shown absolutely no willingness to reconcile open to this point and not sure how honesty is burning . you you know, silence only allows the abuser to abuse. so i don't know how staying silent is ever going to make things better. that's genuinely what i believe . and finally, wales believe. and finally, wales captain gareth bale has announced his retirement, captain gareth bale has announced his retirement , the announced his retirement, the club and from international at the age of 33, bale is the

club's most capped player with . club's most capped player with. 111 appearances over 17 seasons. he said he feels incredibly fortunate to have realised his dream of playing the sport he loves . you are up to date on tv loves. you are up to date on tv onune loves. you are up to date on tv online and, dab plus radio with gb news. when? now it's time for part two. a fast . part two. a fast. rhythm okay. good evening . it's rhythm okay. good evening. it's a one hour royal special. i'm going to be asking all of my guests the question should harry be sacked? and i say that because he is fifth in line to the throne , also a duke. he has the throne, also a duke. he has trashed not just his brother, not just his father . trashed not just his brother, not just his father. he made, i think in many ways the last couple of years the queen's life far more difficult . though it far more difficult. though it needed to be, he's proven that.

but there is no prive conversation. even at his grandfather , his funeral, that grandfather, his funeral, that he won't use to try and profit on.and he won't use to try and profit on. and who's to say if he was come to the coronation, he wouldn't try and sell stories about that and make money out of it. he's admitted drug use. he's virtually advertised ised to a younger generation . the benefits younger generation. the benefits of using psychedelic drugs . he's of using psychedelic drugs. he's proved that he is dim. he's proved that he is dim. he's proved that he is dim. he's proved that he is stupid . he's proved that he is stupid. he's boasted about the numbers taliban, that he's killed all in all, i think this is a complete catastrophe. i think he should be from those positions. that my view. that is a debate we'll have. view. that is a debate we'll have . but one good thing he said have. but one good thing he said the royal family are racist. well cameron walker is the gb news royal reporter. let's try and start with the positive. i mean, nigel was , a lot to unpack mean, nigel was, a lot to unpack here, isn't there? we've got this memoir and for promotion or interviews, he has done one of the united kingdom and three in the united kingdom and three in the united kingdom and three in the united states . i think the the united states. i think the overall theme really is his

utter hatred . the british press utter hatred. the british press and what he sees as that part in princess diana's death with the paparazzi, etc. that's the allegation , sean. but in turn , allegation, sean. but in turn, that comes into the whole kind of family relationships breaking down, being damaged because of what he is alleging is the collusion between the press and the british royal family. he alleges leaking and planting stories, none of which has been in particular, camilla, some sort spin doctor by the sounds of what harry would say. well, nigel, a harry, is camilla dangerous for what he's for. for forging connections with the british press to her image. look good. that's the allegation , of good. that's the allegation, of course, we've heard in the press that camilla was always going to be king red line. but at the moment we've had no comment from buckingham palace or kensington palace on any of these . and the palace on any of these. and the problem with that , in my view, problem with that, in my view, is we're only guessing one side of the story aren't we? and that's prince harry's version of the truth. but to be honest, i

think perhaps buckingham palace, his strategy at the moment is . his strategy at the moment is. the poll today the latest yougov poll today shows that prince harry's popularity amongst the british pubucis popularity amongst the british public is at an time low. yes, it really is. and in fact, we could put the yougov poll up on the screen for our viewers watching television. amazing watching on television. amazing mean. was at 80% approval mean. he was at 80% approval rating. yeah. just ten years ago. which given there's always going to be a certain percentage of people who are republicans. i mean, it couldn't have been higher it's now to higher than it was. it's now to 26. yeah, six years he's known meghan , now duchess of sussex, meghan, now duchess of sussex, of course . and so i think what of course. and so i think what such a shame we're now forgetting about all the good work that prince harry did . he work that prince harry did. he was a working member of the royal the invictus games royal family the invictus games and pillars hating and rehab pillars hating veterans. of course , prince veterans. of course, prince harry served two tours of afghanistan himself, first of which he had to be pulled out his essentially because his time, essentially because the foreign media broke the embargo when he was on the front line, which clearly was a big safety issue. but then was second tour of afghanistan, which about

which he talks about in this book, where claims to have killed 25 taliban fighters. has to, in the eyes of many former service personnel who i've spoken to has put a target on his back. it's caused a huge security issue not only for him but for his family. this is the allegation . this is what they allegation. this is what they are saying. and indeed, the royal family and the and british service personnel all over the world. and it creates a perhaps what they say is a target for terrorism . is this the end for terrorism. is this the end for harry? is this the end of harry? i think it's to be difficult for harry to get out of this victim narrative, which i think kim and meghan have been using for the last couple of years. it's not impossible. i think perhaps we will even maybe do a bit will see even maybe do a bit more charity work, the united states. but in terms of reckon smiling working members smiling with the working members of royal family, that's of the royal family, that's going really difficult the going to really difficult at the moment because from the palace's palace's perspective, i imagine they distrust harry, because how would they know if the private conversations going to end up in

another interview in six months time? absolutely. cameron walker, thank you so much. i'm joined by historian david starkey . he's a remarkable young starkey. he's a remarkable young man . david, he is not responsive man. david, he is not responsive for anything that has ever gone wrong in his life. what a wonderful chap. isn't it amazing 7 wonderful chap. isn't it amazing ? this is the result. nigel you and i have never had it. called religious convo . the harry we religious convo. the harry we have now is not the harry we have now is not the harry we have then. this is not the harry of the games. nobody, of course , seems to know latin anymore . , seems to know latin anymore. least of all. paul. harry does he actually know what this means? invictus means defeat, not a victim . what he did with not a victim. what he did with those souls . shut up . abused those souls. shut up. abused terrible injuries. those souls. shut up. abused terrible injuries . deformed, terrible injuries. deformed, defaced . he gave them the defaced. he gave them the courage not to be victim. fantastic to go to the gym. to do something. to take control

their lives. to do what you did after a plane crash. you what has he done now ? he's been has he done now? he's been persuaded of . the doctrine of persuaded of. the doctrine of woke and the doctrine of mental. god help him and like a religious conversion. every value that this man believed before is stood its head. he is his entire past. before is stood its head. he is his entire past . and what we his entire past. and what we have now, we've to harry's is. it is very much like shakespeare except that totally unwritten child. and where is shakespeare shakespeare's prince? how abandons his bad side for his good. he's abandoned his side for this new bad whingeing way long, destructive . you know what long, destructive. you know what i think . we need a stronger word i think. we need a stronger word that you've been using this is a traitor to everything that. he is believed in to his family , to

is believed in to his family, to the monarchy , to the country , to the monarchy, to the country, to his grandmother , to his father. his grandmother, to his father. we see what the problem with the new gospel the new heresy of woke and of mental well—being . woke and of mental well—being. it's a gospel which is purely of the self. it discards every other obligation, duty , service, other obligation, duty, service, duty, concepts , all the things duty, concepts, all the things that were so exemplified by the late queen. and instead , you late queen. and instead, you have this vortex of self—absorption. but you what, patrick? what struck me about the whole thing was everything is so petty. you at it. we had a dispute about tiara, a bridesmaids dress. do you know what? my petrol was smaller than my brother's. at this list of absolute trivia, which , i mean, absolute trivia, which, i mean, you're on the scale of human wrong. they're not even molehills. they're barely specks of dust. and not transformed

into mountains. of dust. and not transformed into mountains . they're into mountains. they're transformed into mountain range , which is himalayan lunar structures . the sheer finally structures. the sheer finally silliness, the self—destructiveness . you know self—destructiveness. you know what ? what i feel. and then what what? what i feel. and then what feel? i feel contempt . yes, feel? i feel contempt. yes, i have no sympathy whatsoever. i think we've directed much of our ire at meghan over the course of the last couple of years. i think he really is. the problem is he has betrayed his family. and you're suggesting, david, that a more robust times the tower of london might have been suitable? well, in more robust times wouldn't have been times it wouldn't have been knocked into a dog bowl. it would have been drowned in a bottle. now, which is but again, if you look at the house of york, it's exactly the same thing. it's a dispute between brothers . and again, what's come brothers. and again, what's come out of all of this is a sort of simmering teenage resentment. we've suddenly those fights on

the back seat of the royal limousine transformed played in front of us re—enacted with added bitterness. and i do think actually, i'm sorry. i do think, meghan, when people convert i've described this as a process of conversion . there is somebody conversion. there is somebody who converts . there is no doubt who converts. there is no doubt it. she she is acted as is priestess into this new absurd colourful union religion. but what i think we should be doing we should be seeing what the risk of the american analyzation. i'm sorry. i know you. you're a bit of a trump, but the terrible risk of the of british public life and thought you are sucked into this is a veil of despair. you are sucked into this is a veil of despair . and it veil of despair. and it proclaims it makes well it makes. yes sick and feelings and feelings matter more than facts and feelings. feelings matter more than facts and feelings . the only truth and feelings. the only truth matters is utterly self—destructive. so the question is , what should be

question is, what should be done? if anything , know that the done? if anything, know that the palace thus far maintained their own dignified silence. and cameron speculating maybe they should ask. the trouble is, if they answer 15 charges, 30 more will be laid at that. they were all so trivial. the point is you get yourself into a dispute. there's a there's a good principle of law, de minimis. don't don't dispute about nothing . these are not things . i nothing. these are not things. i think the silence is correct for the very simple reason. no but he is destroying harry more effectively than that is true. every time he gives an interview, he now, of course it contradicts because the religious conversion isn't quite complete and every so often the honest . well actually my grandma honest. well actually my grandma would terrible racist i'd rather susan the religious conversion isn't complete the still the perfectly decent not very bright boy in physical who used to be

sorted out by the army and suddenly you know what? well he's married , mother. yeah. and he's married, mother. yeah. and he's married, mother. yeah. and he's lost the army as well , he's lost the army as well, because that was his second family. and they i think they're disgusted that we got distinguished army personnel coming on later on in this hour, david, he's fifth in line to the throne . he is trashed the throne. he is trashed the country, the monarchy, the commonwealth grandmother's great lasting achievement . is it commonwealth grandmother's great lasting achievement. is it time for that position to be removed? should he be sacked? no it would give him more attention than he deserves. he will naturally just face away. this is old soldiers, you know, never used to die. they just fade away. is as much an old soldier. he is perpetually declining in the order of succession . why give order of succession. why give them the satisfaction of the attention ? why? the only way attention? why? the only way again ? can i just explain the again? can i just explain the only way you can actually remove the title of duke of sussex is

by an act. yes. do we really want to go through that? this is . it is the proverbial sledgehammer for a wall. not for this tiny little ginger nuts. i'm afraid . i this tiny little ginger nuts. i'm afraid. i i this tiny little ginger nuts. i'm afraid . i i don't care. i'm afraid. i i don't care. i know . this is a family. but know. this is a family. but i mean, it wouldn't be all actually like the. is that a sledgehammer might miss the. well, he wouldn't. i would. i well, he wouldn't. i would. i well, but , well, he wouldn't. i would. i well, but, but well, he wouldn't. i would. i well, but , but no, well, he wouldn't. i would. i well, but, but no, i don't think it's worth , i think it would it's worth, i think it would make a lot of us feel better, but it will be foolish. i think that for once the palace is doing absolutely the right . it's doing absolutely the right. it's letting him to in his own do. well and that duke's will get better . things will get hotter better. things will get hotter and more to him . david starkey and more to him. david starkey softly . very good to have you on softly. very good to have you on the program as ever. i love some

of the analogies i think he should be sodding stock is wrong just sack him but there we are. perhaps i'm a bit a toughie. in a moment, we're going to have a head head debate between somebody who the title somebody who thinks the title disgrace somebody who wants disgrace and somebody who wants to him. hold onto to stand up for him. hold onto your hats in just a minute.

so should he be . some of your so should he be. some of your opinions coming in. one viewer says, you can't. that's the point. it's hereditary monarchy. get of all of it. and you might a democratic society back . i a democratic society back. i know you hate unelected . yeah. know you hate unelected. yeah. the point is , this is a the point is, this is a constitutional monarchy that came out of a very bitter civil war and settlement. and i think on balance it's actually served us quite well for three centuries. doug says yes, strip their titles . doug, i'm with their titles. doug, i'm with you. i'm with i'm not with softy

starkey. i'm with you . paul says starkey. i'm with you. paul says harry needs help out not to be stripped of his . paul, i have to stripped of his. paul, i have to say that there is a school thought that the guy doesn't need help . he's had so much need help. he's had so much therapy . he seems to be need help. he's had so much therapy. he seems to be asking questions in the book about whether the beard that he grew is because of freudian or therapy. maybe he's been coached already. i'm chris says yes, the king should . remove the titles king should. remove the titles immediately, chris. the king cannot do that . the king cannot cannot do that. the king cannot do that. the king can express a wish that it should be done. not that i think he will, but parliament wouldn't to do it and stop his point is that would take up too much time and give him even more publicity . well, him even more publicity. well, let's have a free ranging , him even more publicity. well, let's have a free ranging, open debate about the merits or demerits of harry. what he's done over the course of the last days. i'm joined by veteran royal journalist charles rea , a royal journalist charles rea, a formerly royal reporter for the sun and narinder kaur media commentator. now, narinder, you have very sympathetic towards

harry and meghan and previously this show you said they'd been victims of racism. can we please at least not back the head? no, because harry says it was not. but it's unconscious bias and because, you know, you must you accept that british law says unconscious bias is a form of racism. it's a racism. you can't deny that they have excuses. it was the hallucinated drugs that he took. no. helped him to see the unconscious. because remember said, why did he the use ask why did prince william have a problem with meghan? because she was an american. she was an actress. and because she was an actress. and because she was biracial and a mother was black. that's racism. won't black. that's racism. i won't deny it. charles when. deny it. charles when? when. meghan first appeared on our tv's screens, i wonder how many people said, oh, she's black. i doubt very much. anybody would have said that she's black. i mean, she was the one who made the point. being biracial. nothing wrong. there's nothing wrong that. and have to

wrong with that. and we have to remember the start when remember that at the start when she on the scene you know, she came on the scene you know, everybody loved her. they loved her. ten, 12, 20 her. people were ten, 12, 20 deepin her. people were ten, 12, 20 deep in the streets. and various tones just to see the couple. they thought they were the greatest things since sliced bread and. the point of harry and meghan is if they had stayed within the royal family they would have been a cornerstone of the slimmed royal family. the new slimmed royal family. yeah mean it was a wedding in windsor. i was in the run windsor. i was there in the run to wedding. it was to that wedding. it was a fairytale. the whole world didn't already put out a statement saying . but actually statement saying. but actually the british media were pushing out racist. and you like that and . i know you're saying and told. i know you're saying he changed his mind on this and he changed his mind on this and he said the royal. but i was really disappointed did he said well i was very pleased . i know well i was very pleased. i know he said the british press were bigoted and you have to accept that. no, no, no . narinderwhat that. no, no, no. narinder what he said yesterday was that he did not say that the royal family were racist . well, i family were racist. well, i don't know which oprah winfrey he was on, but certainly not the

one i was watching. now, not that. and he blamed it was the british press who said that the royal family was racist. exactly so that they told you a part of the british press the british press only report did what was being said on oprah winfrey's show. well, the thing is let let's let us move on from the racism charge to a broader. yes, he has family secrets in a way thatis he has family secrets in a way that is unforgivable . including that is unforgivable. including including. let me finish . and including. let me finish. and you're interesting to get in here, but let me finish. including a private comment made his father at his grandfather's funeral. that is beneath contempt it. well, no, because i was actually putting his face to everything. whereas and charles and camilla , the wicked and camilla, the wicked stepmother , do not see to get stepmother, do not see to get the press. i told that . feed it the press. i told that. feed it to you. it's not charles. do you remember? they say when charles was on the sun? yes. camilla, the spinner . was on the sun? yes. camilla, the spinner. yeah. i love that she's. i mean, she's clearly the new peter mandelson , the role of

new peter mandelson, the role of the royal family. when she would have you up, it was on have rung you up, when it was on the i could get that the sun. i could not get that queen off the phone. she was always on the phone. camilla and then charles and william. then charles and then william. you tonight is that you you know, tonight is that you will find stories . look, i will find the stories. look, i wish i had been fed stories. honestly, i would have had a lot less stressful life. it wasn't working the sun. he told i didn't. saying he's a liar. yes nine times. ginger you know, i think whether harry is lying , i think whether harry is lying, i think whether harry is lying, i think he's suffering from a victimhood delusion . and i think victimhood delusion. and i think much of what he says he may believe to be true, but don't think it's true. what is it? he's not a right wing media defender. do you honestly believe do you honestly believe that buckingham palace , the that buckingham palace, the royal family set out to trash camilla and harry because they were worried about their popularity? do you honestly believe that, harry? yes, i do. i'm sorry. yes i do believe

that. actually, he was thrown and said they were . it was and said they were. it was because look at all the negative press that harry and meghan hired because was so popular hired because it was so popular . and think william and kate . and i think william and kate would charles and i think that william was you know he betrayed his brother. did you not watch the last night and feel , oh, my the last night and feel, oh, my god, what are. yes boy been true to do not have compassion. i was saying oh my unfortunately i was watching i wanted to watch happy valley. instead i unhappy valley . i think that there's a denialism here. you know you know, look look, i think there are things called private family roles but that they happen and they happen and an actually it would be better if this was not aired in public the way that it is. i think it's fantastic. it's and i'll tell you why he's revealing the toxicity of this family. he's revealing that the bias of this family, the prejudice , some of this family prejudice, some of this family and there's years and years of this really toxicity built up. but you what? he's revealed but you know what? he's revealed to he's saying,

to all and he's saying, i putting out there and actually i want my family back but i want them to be honest they are being they wanted his family back. you do not produce book of nearly 500 pages just three television interview issues and two sets of documentaries to try to make an approach to family, he needs to make a living from the taxpayer. well, make a living. he's making a living tens of millions. oh, i wouldn't be making more than 100 million from having 2 million. but he needs to make a living. nigel, you've got to accept the. how can we accept? he's not spoken to. he had a job. he had a job he had grace and favour homes. he turned his back on. all of it may amass. one last question, nigel. do do you not think that william attacking brother how can you brother physically? how can you how anyone condone that how can anyone condone that physically? i tell you what, if how the man who killed 25 taliban could get pushed to floor by that. i have absolutely . he could have floored me. no i didn't. but if you think the

brothers coming to blows is rare . well, two years old, i think it's unusual. it is unusual to have families as long as we're not laughing of it. william forced into a situation because he was trying to get through to . hang on a second. let me. he was trying to get through to . hang on a second. let me . he . hang on a second. let me. he had he keeps on saying there no hand of friendship , no way of hand of friendship, no way of talking about . hand of friendship, no way of talking about. but william went round to nottingham cottage initially to try to talk things out . he's so exasperated with out. he's so exasperated with his brother . yes. he pushed him. his brother. yes. he pushed him. yes. they on the dog. but i was more concerned about the dog. but that's another that's another thing. but he he pushed he pushed him over. i understand the i'm not condoning it happened. but you for this guy to do this wide ranging boot and for one stage and to talk about 25 taliban. right right down to the catherine, his sister in law not lending meghan her lip . and not lending meghan her lip. and in between three mentioned he

mentions three mentions of his private parts . there's an awful private parts. there's an awful in it it's a machine gun approach to attack his family and he'll pay for it in the end. well, i think he will. i'm going to have to draw up stumps on this. sadly final word, are you a republican? you get rid of the royal family? i'm a massive royalist, actually. i think i'm you a i want to see you know, i'm a i want to see prince king and want prince william king and i want to a king, not a bully. to be a fine king, not a bully. fair enough. charles do you think the royal family should act to remove as fifth in line to the throne or restore king? right. let no, no . right. just let it go. no, no. there's no way they can remove. his title, unless you quite rightly that parliament. but rightly say that parliament. but is a bill going through at the moment the 1917 titles that they want amendment if want an amendment and if that passes probably won't. but if passes it probably won't. but if that passes that would give the king do it. but he king the ability do it. but he won't do it. we will see what happens. i just i think he should be punished for what he's done. now, in a moment, discuss harry draghi. yes harry the harry the draghi. yes harry the draghi. the man who ran away

from the raaf base because they were doing drugs, tests probably saved his bacon. i've got to talk to an american lawyer. did he on his us. visa form? he lie on his us. visa form? could he be booted out of the usa? all of that and couple of minutes .

so it's harry, the draghi ? yes, so it's harry, the draghi? yes, it's cannabis. it's cocaine . it's cannabis. it's cocaine. it's hallucinogenics. which him to see the truth and made him understand his own unconscious bias. i wonder actually the eventual taking is part of the problem. i don't know. separate debate, but i'm joined by carol kilgore, an american lawyer based in the uk. for the conservative woman. carol when you go into america even on an

esther , you're asked to fill in esther, you're asked to fill in all you know, are you a terror ist? have you ever done this? have you ever done that? let alone when you get a visa or a permanent right to settle? now, we don't know what visa he's got, but would he not have been asked prior to a visa , his asked prior to a visa, his criminal record, his place of residence, and whether he'd taken drugs ? he would have, yes. taken drugs? he would have, yes. but what's relevant is under the immigration and nationality act . if he was under 18 when he used or possessed a controlled substance , that would mean that substance, that would mean that that does not mean that he's ineligible to enter the us he would have had to have been deaung would have had to have been dealing trafficking or manufacturing a controlled substance. now marijuana is a controlled substance . but as of controlled substance. but as of 2015, it was legalised recreational use in california . recreational use in california. but i was thinking more about cocaine . well, it's a class aa cocaine. well, it's a class aa drug. yes it is. but if he was under age of 18 when he used it

and he admitted that when he went in. how interesting. he said he first took it when he was 17 but didn't actually admit to having taken it that. right now the lawyers will have been through this book very, won't they? yes so the contention it's been put to me , many people over been put to me, many people over here about over the weekend that here about over the weekend that he might have lied on a visa form. you suspect that he's probably okay ? i think he would probably okay? i think he would have been advised by the royal family's advisers to tell the truth. and don't forget that , he truth. and don't forget that, he did go in 2013 on i think it was a seven day visit and that would have been on an esta and i can't imagine that he would have lied on the application . well we on the application. well we don't we don't actually know the answer to that . but you suspect answer to that. but you suspect that in terms of his status in america, he's not in any way . america, he's not in any way. the biden administration wouldn't really want to upset meghan anyway. that's meghan markle anyway. that's right. in the end, these right. because in the end, these are political decisions, are quite political decisions, aren't quick thought. aren't they? yes. quick thought.

quick thought. on their popularity in america . you know, popularity in america. you know, you can see what's happening in. this country. harry's personal approval rating has gone from 80% in 2012. it's fallen another five points over the course of the last few days, down to a quarter of the population. i mean , american press are having mean, american press are having a field day on this, aren't they? how is their popularity , they? how is their popularity, america? i can't say for sure, but understanding the way little think in america , they probably think in america, they probably still idolise meghan because she's a princess and. every little girl wants to be a princess. yeah, well, she is princess, which is what she always wanted to be. carol, thank you very much indeed for clearing up. well, that's one scandal isn't scandal that probably isn't going to come to the royal family is being deported family is him being deported from america . but it was worth from america. but it was worth examination . and i do think and examination. and i do think and i say that what he said i will say that what he said about hallucinogenic drugs . i about hallucinogenic drugs. i think actually in terms being a role model to younger people , i role model to younger people, i think that was very, very bad

indeed. think that was very, very bad indeed . now, harry, the soldier, indeed. now, harry, the soldier, we know two tours of afghan to start something that he was very respected for and that army within which he seemed to fit incredibly well. in fact, many thought this was actually a second family to. well, joining me is tony haslam down the line, a former captain in the eighteenths royal azhar's cavalry regiment of british army. and your son, understand, tony, was very friends with harry lovegrove before he went up to eton . can i ask tony up to eton. can i ask tony firstly, you know , family having firstly, you know, family having interacted with the prince for many many years. can i ask you how you're feeling about this string of revelations ? hello string of revelations? hello nigel. well, i think in a nutshell, i think it's horrendous . i nutshell, i think it's horrendous. i think harry has and meghan have gone it. i'd gone about in a very cowardly way. and what i mean by cowardly

is that they , you know, within is that they, you know, within and the king and everybody else, they cannot defend themselves. so and he knows that . and yet so and he knows that. and yet he's thrown all accusations . and he's thrown all accusations. and they are completely . so i think they are completely. so i think it is very cowardly. and for an ex—soldier , i think to behave ex—soldier, i think to behave like that is pretty horrendous. the second thing is it's disloyal . he's been incredibly disloyal. he's been incredibly disloyal. he's been incredibly disloyal to his father. he's been incredibly disloyal to the monarchy as a whole . and the monarchy as a whole. and the worst part and the thing makes me more angry and anything is he did oprah winfrey interview . did oprah winfrey interview. they did just before the duke of edinburgh died . now, what was edinburgh died. now, what was duke of edinburgh must have been put through listening to, particularly when the racist thing came up. it particularly when the racist thing came up . it beggars thing came up. it beggars belief. and then following that , he then it goes from bad to worse. by you know, for the last years of the queen's life who

has given such dedication to law to this country , has has seen to this country, has has seen his dirty linen be washed in public. and we know from something we heard last week that she it caused it had an effect on her health. and that is totally unacceptable. and the third thing i think he's is it he is they are totally hypocritical to because they're they all they're talking about mental health. i understand that they support mine . the british they support mine. the british mental health charity . and yet mental health charity. and yet what they've been doing is mentally bullying william and kate in particular. and that is not acceptable. so all in all, i think well, look, regardless of me, i think it's a whole things and horrendous . well, i think and horrendous. well, i think you put it pretty, pretty well in those three very strong points, tony. thank you very much indeed forjoining us this much indeed for joining us this evening. i'm joined now by chip chapman, major general chip chapman, major general chip

chapman, firstly with your sort of army military. falklands veteran on. i know what i talk to you chaps that have been active combat and you've lost men that served you and you've had to kill the enemy . and you had to kill the enemy. and you know, i ask people about it and they joke about the kit being no good or the weather was like or how the breakfast to boast of killing 25 taliban. i mean, really unthinkable, isn't it? yeah it's not good. but more generally , the key point is that generally, the key point is that given he is his book should have been vetted . two reasons. the been vetted. two reasons. the first one is operational security reasons. opsec for the one which is the one we're seeing manifested is per sec personnel security. and we've seen that both the taliban making statements and other groups. so he's put three groups of people at risk. i mean , in of people at risk. i mean, in his view head of counter—terrorism at the you're all too you know well aware of these risks . i mean is has he these risks. i mean is has he risked is it more than just the family? is it the british serving overseas? how broadly

how big is this risk ? i think how big is this risk? i think there are three circles at the moment. so first one is him and his immediate family. but have to be careful in because all the information and at the moment would say that complex plots al—qaeda and is just not there anymore . that was brought out anymore. that was brought out again with a cancel. foreign relations. but it is the lone actor who might be energised with a grievance and an ideology. and if they've this sort of stuff and it's amplified and you can see the amplification in a. so today there was a protest of 20 people in helmand province were picked up in helmand province were picked ”p by in helmand province were picked up by all the international press. and with the global rumour of the muslim community amongst that, there will be some who will seek to take potentially revenge against someone who killed their fellow brothers. you know, he's to be an infidel. and i'm so sorry. circles one him and he's made it family. second, the royal family. and of course, we've got the coronation coming up and the third would be events that third one would be events that he eventually he high profile eventually

attends , such the invictus attends, such as the invictus games in the seedorf in september , the army was a second september, the army was a second family to him. perhaps some ways for some it was a first family to him . i get the impression to him. i get the impression that you guys now have no regard for him at all. would that be fair? well, i think you have to say that between 2005 and 15, he served honourably . he set up the served honourably. he set up the invictus games in 2014. that is honourable . he's disobeyed, honourable. he's disobeyed, dissipated that honour, really with of the ways that he's gone about the book and the content within it. so he has dissipated the kudos which had accrued to him previously. so i don't write him previously. so i don't write him off and there may be complex reasons to do with some sort of ptsd amongst him, but he's got a lot of recovery to come about and really he sort of looks like sort of pan shop hamlet with a revenge play allied to charlie cooper at the moment . that's cooper at the moment. that's always a bad gig . if you were always a bad gig. if you were still at the mod in charge of

counterterrorism . and you were counterterrorism. and you were thinking about the first week of may this year , the coronation, may this year, the coronation, one of the biggest global events to happen in this country, because the eyes of world will because the eyes of world will be on it since war. would you think it's a good thing if harry was there as a guest? well, i do. we always quote military philosophers from the past. you know this one said marcus aurelius, the best revenge is not to be like your enemy. and so don't dignify my harry by saying to be trite. and i would invite him for that reason. and that reason of a security perspective. well from a security perspective , going to security perspective, going to have a vip challenge , as you did have a vip challenge, as you did for the queen's platinum jubilee . so that will just be another of complexity, which is already with lots of heads of state from around the world, going to be present at seminal event. really, it doesn't occur very often. chip chapman , thank you often. chip chapman, thank you very much indeed. and all these why saying he shouldn't

why voices saying he shouldn't be shouldn't be sacked, shouldn't be disinvited, i'm being disinvited, perhaps i'm being a bit too vindictive. i just think what he's done is completely unforgivable. but it's not my fault. it's all fault of the press. it is the tabloids in this country that have created all of this. and nonetheless , all of this. and nonetheless, the my next guest, calvin mckenzie, it's all down to him. he'll with me after the .

break the most consistent theme out of everything with harry since harry and meghan and gone into complete overdrive. over the course of the last two or three days, is that all about the press , evil media that media press, evil media that media that directly to his mother's death, that media who've now

been fed by buckingham palace because palace, particularly camilla, the did not meghan and harry be too popular. so it's all the fault of the press. and he is. kelvin mackenzie, former editor of the sun, he is the victim of all of this. he utterly blameless . he has never utterly blameless. he has never done anything wrong in his life. i guess at one level, if you're a member of the royal family, the press can make your life quite tough. but believe me, it's like politicians isn't the say, you know, it's like saying that a captain blaming the sea. you're born this establishment position and therefore it comes a scrutiny with a very painful painful view. painful for me , painful view. painful for me, painful view. painful for me, painful for anybody . even painful view. painful for me, painful for anybody. even in painful view. painful for me, painful for anybody . even in the painful for anybody. even in the small way of the public eye, especially in private life issues. you've just simply got to get on with it. what was clear, a rather poor interview by bradby of the itv . if i was

by bradby of the itv. if i was the head of news, itv , i take the head of news, itv, i take the head of news, itv, i take the one side and say, look, make why don't you start asking some decent questions like, why don't you back your title all or you hand back your title all or by the way, don't come back to country. we don't want you. what do about not do you feel about people? not like poor interview. like you. very poor interview. he he should hang. he he should. he should hang. he said in chinese that because he's matey with him. yeah, he's too matey with him. yeah, absolutely. excuse me. how he get interview the first get the interview in the first place? didn't get because, place? he didn't get it because, you there's nasty you know, there's some nasty like saying boom, boom, boom like me saying boom, boom, boom . you've got it. now, tell me, harry, how long have you been. well for? oh, have you wish . well for? oh, have you wish. funny you should mention that. i'm. i'm well, what tablets are you on. well, i'm on this one. who's therapist? oh, it's dr. tom is a rather him. i actually preferred his sister is. so that pool preferred his sister is. so that poonl preferred his sister is. so that poor. i thought that was very pool poor. i thought that was very poor. and course, i often wondered . he actually flew out wondered. he actually flew out to california because for the very reason that he couldn't come back to this country, because of course, i don't about the weed so much, but the and

all that stuff which seemed to be recent. i mean. oh right. perhaps the whole of london is full of itself stuff and perhaps we shouldn't be too tough on them. but going back to his essential point, and he was never this go and he let never this go and he didn't let it go in the american interviews ehhen it go in the american interviews either, was it actually it was the press right. look his the press that. right. look his mother under . terrible mother died under. terrible circumstances far too young. and in our country she was both a much loved but also a much discussed figure . right. i quite discussed figure. right. i quite understand that he's 12 years old. he's on the cusp, is just about to set out . and suddenly about to set out. and suddenly he's got no mum . and some of the he's got no mum. and some of the points he made about to shake hands with people. boy we didn't. he didn't want to smile. it says, mum, i quite understand all that stuff. but then to try and claim it's the press. what doneit and claim it's the press. what done it and also the thing really objected to is the fact one side of his family , he one side of his family, he claims, were leaking against his side. now you're to have time

with dan wootton on our now dan got some great royal stories right. he's written a great piece on mailonline today about it. he will tell you. but the other side were constantly rebutting and also leaking against the charles and william access what he objected to was that he was spare and he never to grips with that and that will be with him for the rest of his. and the most interesting subject matters that i notice when talking to friends and colleagues is this one. if that interview takes place in seven years time, where meghan be will that marriage survive. because you've seen this guy and you've thought yourself there there's bumper. if i've ever seen a loser that same he blames everybody he's everybody's the even uniform that was that wasn't his vote now no i, i was i had a choice between that and looking like baba black sheep.

and i said to william , do you and i said to william, do you think? and they all laughed. i said, you should go for the. but what about individual responsibility in all of this ? responsibility in all of this? there's not. he hasn't got any of it . i'm there's not. he hasn't got any of it. i'm afraid. there's not. he hasn't got any of it. i'm afraid . and the other of it. i'm afraid. and the other aspect, though , why wouldn't why aspect, though, why wouldn't why would didn't bradby ask him the straightforward question ? if you straightforward question? if you have so much angst about your family , why don't you give up family, why don't you give up the title and set out on your own? and the answer to that is, you know why? because as the duke and duchess of sussex, he can 80 million quid from the idiot sit netflix who must site themselves. by the way, what about you didn't mention about book? you didn't mention any the good in the any of the good stuff in the book, although i'm also i've had a million advance from a a $5 million advance from a friend penguin random and friend from penguin random and that's because i am the duke of sussex. however, if i was mr. harry windsor or esquire. yeah, right. or somebody rather nasty. yeah mr. harry hewitt . right. or somebody rather nasty. yeah mr. harry hewitt. esquire. something that i thought that i

were that nasty. nasty about below the belt. it was below belt. and if that was it, what would you get for his book? 5.3? would he have to pay for it? kelvin if i was in charge, i would disinviting to the coronation. i would strip him of being fifth in line to the throne, having trashed this country , would you do? well i'd country, would you do? well i'd be in your i'd be in your. but as i understood it from right a long time ago, i led that he said, well, that's not possible. you to you got to pass you got to you got to pass a law. the question was. yes, would employees for that , i would employees vote for that, i suspect, right the way they work is, well, what what what does the voting look like? and actually the voting in the nafion actually the voting in the nation basically is probably running 7030, right now. running about 7030, right now. yeah. all these all these so yeah. so all these all these so are basically guided by by that kind of stuff. i they might well i do. i do, i do. but we chose the question. no, we should ask the question. no, we should ask the question. no, we should ask the question. kelvin, thank for coming on. it's clearly fault you all understand that he set the culture for the british, dragged it into the outset .

dragged it into the outset. that's why we are where we are . that's why we are where we are. camilla. well, anybody there should employ camilla as spin doctor. she's clearly even better than peter . doctor. she's clearly even better than peter. now i'm down for the evening, but i'm to hand you over now to dan wootton. dad, i can't even imagine. can't even imagine what you might be talking about. there's a thank you for the shout out for mr. mckenzie, and you're not quite for the evening, nigel, mckenzie, and you're not quite for the evening , nigel, because for the evening, nigel, because i'm going to need you back in the next hour to discuss this absolute madness . plus, tonight, absolute madness. plus, tonight, we've got tom bower , lady colin we've got tom bower, lady colin campbell, and sarah vine . campbell, and sarah vine. fantastic. dan, i'll be you in about 35 minutes. i on your show, i shall look forward to that enormously . thank you, that enormously. thank you, everybody, for joining that enormously. thank you, everybody, forjoining me . over everybody, forjoining me. over the course of the last 2 hours, i am back, as i say, in 35 minutes with what? they just can't get rid of me this evening . are my thanks to calvin . you are my thanks to calvin david starkey. oh my wonderful guests. thank i'm back with you tomorrow night at 7:00. but now

let's have a look at the all important let's hope and pray improving weather . this is alex improving weather. this is alex deakin with your latest weather update from the met office. a fairly soggy and a blustery day as but it won't be quite as cold as but it won't be quite as cold as it has been out there today. low pressure dominating to the north, this one arriving, bringing the rain tomorrow in between a little in the ice, there's a little ridge of high pressure. that's where we are at the moment, which means most us are dry for the time being. there are still a few showers over parts of north west england and certainly northern and western scotland. but they are easing here the easing off. however, here the rain from that next weather system spreading into south—west england, wales and northern ireland. by dawn, the winds picking up as well. that will bnng picking up as well. that will bring ahead of it with bring milder ahead of it with cooler conditions. could see cooler conditions. we could see some of particularly in some pockets of particularly in north—east england and especially north east scots , but especially north east scots, but for most it'll turn wet quite quickly on tuesday morning in that rain going to be heavy that rain is going to be heavy and persistent over parts of

wales and northwest england. we've lot of rain recently we've had a lot of rain recently so topping could so this extra topping up could cause we do have met cause some. we do have met office yellow warnings place office yellow warnings in place parts eastern taking a little parts of eastern taking a little drive the afternoon drive through the afternoon along ireland. it along with northern ireland. it is going to be a mild a day than today. obviously feeling all that the wind that pleasant with the wind rain. temperatures getting rain. but temperatures getting into wind will be into the teens the wind will be particularly gusty parts of wales western england as wales and western england as this band of rain swings through late day clearer skies late in the day clearer skies follow and do the showers and that's where left with on wednesday a mixture sunny spells and showers lots of showers packing into the west probably not many further east, a decent chance over eastern england northeast scotland that most of the day will be dry. even the day will be dry. but even here, the brisk winds, the showers will arrive plenty of heavy showers further west and it a cooler again. it will be a cooler again. temperatures up and down quite a bit week, 7 to 10 celsius. bit this week, 7 to 10 celsius. and again, feeling colder than that of the gusty winds that because of the gusty winds and fairly frequent showers and the fairly frequent showers . lots of weather systems going on on repeat this week. showers this next weather system brings

, more persistent rain on thursday. back to blustery showers .

fri day fhday nofice friday notice, ben, no bias, no censorship. i'm dan wootton tonight prince harry tried to deliver a fatal blow to his flesh and blood as well as the free press in. a series of disturbing interviews . his disturbing interviews. his muslim allies . and what he's muslim allies. and what he's doneis muslim allies. and what he's done is show the world he's an ultra bloke who's completely divorced from reality . in the divorced from reality. in the oprah interview, you accuse of your family of racism. you don't read it well of the press up until about fanciful claims that explain why royal family should finally exile him for good. in my digest next, my superstar panel will share their thoughts

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