very good morning. welcome to bev turner today on gb news. so there may be nothing in it that we already know, but prince harry's 400 page memoir, spare, is on sale today. harry's 400 page memoir, spare, is on sale today . some bookshops is on sale today. some bookshops opened at midnight, apparently due to demand. but really, we're going to be going live to a few bookshops this morning to find out whether black out whether it's like black friday or sleepy tuesday out there. plus, an anti strikes bill will be introduced to parliament later. idea parliament later. good idea to keep services running or keep your services running or suffocation workers rights. suffocation of workers rights. what do you think .7 and the first what do you think? and the first ever satellite mission launched from uk soil didn't work. that's a bit awkward . going to find out a bit awkward. going to find out why after your latest news with . tam why after your latest news with. tam morning from the gb newsroom. it's 10:01. any bell to ensure it's10:01. any bell to ensure a minimum level of public service

dunng minimum level of public service during strike action is to be introduced by the government today. the legislation, which requires trade union members to continue working during strikes . it comes amid a wave of industrial action across the pubuc industrial action across the public sector in a dispute over pay- public sector in a dispute over pay. this is secretary grant shapps told gb news the legislation is necessary to protect the public. we don't really ever want to have to use that legislation. legislation in those most recent strikes, the royal college of nursing the nurses agreed to a set national level of support. unfortunately, we couldn't get there with ambulances across the country meaning. there was a bit of a postcode lottery as to whether an ambulance would turn up in the case of, you know, something serious, like a heart attack or a stroke and we can't have that. so common sense tells us we so common sense tells us that we need to minimum safety need to have minimum safety levels. meanwhile, teachers in schools across scotland have begun the first of their two day strike after failing to reach an agreement over pay the scottish government. the current offer would see most staff in

classrooms receive a 5% pay rise. but unions are demanding a 10% increase. primary school teachers will walk out today while staff at secondary schools will walk out tomorrow , lay will walk out tomorrow, lay labour has promised a package of welfare reforms under their to help people return to work. under the plan, the claimants will try paid work and if it doesn't work out within a year they can go back to the benefits they can go back to the benefits they were on previously. labour also plans a further reform of employment support and targeted help for the over fifties. shadow work and pensions secretary jonathan ashworth claims the reforms will help people or those on sickness benefits find work . what i'm benefits find work. what i'm proposing today are new measures, new reforms , new measures, new reforms, new thinking to support people say they want to return to work now. in this country, we've got a million people looking for work who want a job. we've got hundreds of thousands of people who are currently designated as

long term sick but say they would want to work if given the right support. would want to work if given the right support . the would want to work if given the right support. the uk's first ever space launch has ended in failure after engineers say it suffered an anomaly . the virgin suffered an anomaly. the virgin orbit jet took off from cornwall late last night, carrying a rocket with nine small satellites over the atlantic ocean. the american firm say the rocket failed to enter the orbit after it was released. there'll be an investigation into the incident over the coming days . a incident over the coming days. a new report has revealed electric vehicle drivers have to pay more to charge their batteries on long journeys than those who pay for fuel on rac report shows drivers pay around $0.20 per mile for their electricity when using the charges, which caused by rising costs of gas and electricity. the per mile cost of a petrol car is $0.17. prince harry's memoir has finally hit the shelves. fans queued from midnight at some stores to get a

copy of the duke of sussex book spare, which contains intimate details of his life . several details of his life. several stories have already been leaked as some bookstores in spain started selling it last week . started selling it last week. people outside a bookshop in central london are looking forward to reading it. what? the picture's quite nice. it's well, well done. and i've read the interviews. i can't wait for the audiobook. i'm going to . i've audiobook. i'm going to. i've bought that already and i can't wait to read about his family. i've seen a lot of stuff on tiktok, people talking a lot of good things about it. it's like the new thing to do at the moment. i talk about it pretty good. it's pretty open, pretty honest. so if you're a person, put himself out there. yeah, there is no fear enough to. yeah, i respect for someone who just going to air everything out and let the whole world know what he's up to. residents in montecito, in california, home, harry and meghan have been evacuated as 14 people have died in floods that unprecedented

rain has hit the area after a string of storms. the floodwaters swept away a five year old boy yesterday . and here year old boy yesterday. and here in the uk , the met office has in the uk, the met office has issued yellow weather across wales and north west england. 6280 millimetres of rain is expected fall. the met office is urging to beware of flooding and disruption to transport. it'll be the heaviest in the western areas but wet , windy conditions areas but wet, windy conditions all over the country . this areas but wet, windy conditions all over the country. this is gb news will bring you more news as it happens, of course. now it's back to back . back to back. very good morning. welcome to bev turner today on gb news. thank you for choosing us. now if you like what we do one person today, won't you? here's

what i've got in store this morning. today is the day when publishers, random publishers, penguin, random house will find out whether prince harry's tell all memoir, spare a good investment. he's blowing the lid off all the firm's private secrets. so i hope he thinks it's worth it. i'm going to be talking to a brilliant psychotherapist soon and also cameron walker, considering why harry has done this and how we might build back bndges this and how we might build back bridges with the family if ever . but don't worry. it's not all prince . this morning the prince. this morning the government will introduce a bill into parliament later today, which would public sector services maintain minimum safety levels ? strike action. levels during? strike action. this means some trade union members would be legally required to continue working dunng required to continue working during a strike. downing street said new legislation was necessary . protect the public, necessary. protect the public, but it doesn't protect the workers, does it? what do you make of it? and joining on the panel this morning is the historian david and the former president of the north ii. stephanie, both and of course, please send me your views. our twitter poll is asking , with

twitter poll is asking, with a spare being on sale , will you be spare being on sale, will you be buying a copy? email me, gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me on at gb news. right. let's get in that it at gb news. right. let's get in thatitis at gb news. right. let's get in that it is finally here . the uk, that it is finally here. the uk, prince harry's tell all memoir spare has been released with intimate details of his life and ongoing feud . the family, all ongoing feud. the family, all included in its 416 pages. let's get some public reaction to the release of the book with our south—east reports that ray addison, who is looking very wet , bedraggled ray in horsham in west sussex . how busy is the west sussex. how busy is the bookshop ? the queue around the bookshop? the queue around the block ? bev i'd love to that. it block? bev i'd love to that. it was unfortunately is not, it's not exactly a stampede here in horsham i'm afraid. i've picked up my copy horsham i'm afraid. i've picked up my copy about half an hour ago , it's getting a little bit ago, it's getting a little bit wet so stick that back under the jacket there and. yeah it's a little bit quiet here and sort this street is normally this high street is normally quite because of

quite busy maybe it's because of the , as you can see. maybe the rain, as you can see. maybe it's because of the wind as well. or maybe it's because everybody they've everybody feels like they've they've heard these answers already. there's so many already. there's been so many revelations, we've thought revelations, what we've thought early release in last week early release in spain last week interviews which took place in the uk and the us as well. and maybe people feel the just had enough of this story. let's find out but i've been speaking to people here to find out if they plan to pick up their copy of the book. i actually have kind of really been on their side. i've been feisty that their calls for while, but i do feel i just so much media attention was kind of off putting not interested i have to say and a little bit hypocritical of him saying about not wanting to you know, sharing affirmation and then we have it all. yeah i probably buy the audiobook and just listen to his point of view right. i, i don't know. ijust think sometimes he doesn't realise how much privilege he has, especially now people have so little privilege . i'll so little privilege. i'll probably buy it for, for

entertainment purposes and read it just to have a good laugh. you know . well, of course a lot you know. well, of course a lot of people have put this book on, on pre—order. of people have put this book on, on pre—order . we've heard about on pre—order. we've heard about stores in other places being open since midnight. stores in other places being open since midnight . that's not open since midnight. that's not happened here. one woman came along. she was to talking earlier on. she asked me, could i film her going and buying the book, that she could bring it out and set it on fire. that's probably the far extreme and of the views of this publication . the views of this publication. other people just not particularly interested. back to you.thank particularly interested. back to you. thank you, ray and i will somehow arrange somebody to get you a gb news umbrella . but well you a gb news umbrella. but well done.thank you a gb news umbrella. but well done. thank you for stoicism out there on front line of this story because it was going to be interesting, wasn't it , to see interesting, wasn't it, to see people were queuing up today, radisson there down in horsham. cameron walker is with me now. cameron walker is with me now. cameron me present. cameron bought me a present. yes, have a slightly drier yes, i have a slightly drier book ray did, here it book than ray did, but here it is black and white. cameron is in black and white. cameron no, it's not. i wish i couldn't quite . oh, sign it. very good

quite. oh, sign it. very good enough for me. any revelations ? enough for me. any revelations? well, you tell them all we know even more we do. but what strikes me is all the kind of intimate details of harry's growing up as a prince, as a young prince. he talks about how the that comes out the taps in balmoral is slightly brown tinged because of the peat that it runs through before it gets to the castle. he talks about how the late queen, her special lizzie at the balmoral barbecues , was making the salad dressing . he talks about prince philip's standing on head and doing headstands every morning and the king's favourite . so like all of king's favourite. so like all of prince harry, i think it's those little details which are going to make this a really fascinating read for people who like the royal family and are obsessed with them like i am now, of the things that now, it one of the things that i do when i first get a book, the most interesting thing is to look they thank, right? look who they thank, right? yeah. in this yeah. particularly in this instance, i've been thinking this to quite. so this is going to be quite. so who he thanked cameron. i who has he thanked cameron. i know highlighted

know you've highlighted few sections a bit sections that that was a bit mean i would say if i mean why i would say if i remember my head so you remember top of my head so you would acknowledge would think he would acknowledge members of the royal family. of course, it's people he course, it's people who he supports growing yeah supports him growing up. yeah that happened. there's that has not happened. there's no no no mention of william. no mention of charles no mention of camilla or anybody else. he was mentioned. we have oprah winfrey, who, of course, they that infamous interview with back in 2021, james corden as well, the tv host of the late, late show comedian. yeah for that unwavering friendship and support. he also thanks his wife meghan his two children of course . and interestingly course. and interestingly several therapists, both in the uk and the us and not done a particularly good job. i can't lie. i mean , he says he does lie. i mean, he says he does they say thank you to my uk for helping unravel the years of unresolved trauma. they haven't done a particularly good job. we're going to be to talking an amazing psychotherapist on the show later i think would be

show later who i think would be able sought him out. able to probably sought him out. but we've all been wondering, like, who are the people around who've monetising who've been basically monetising his trauma? isn't this what we're about ? his trauma? isn't this what we're about? this kind we're talking about? this kind of gives us bit of an insight of gives us a bit of an insight into who people it's into who those people are. it's for it's a list of shame. for me, it's a list of shame. there lots names in that there are lots of names in that list acknowledgement to list of acknowledgement to page's at the end, the page's worth at the end, the documents we know he's got a big media archewell media team at archewell productions. big kind productions. it's his big kind of harry and meghan of company that harry and meghan set . their actually set up. their ceo actually recently left. now harry and meghan run it's its themselves from as of view from march well as point of view that's they're on that's because they're on maternity paternity leave for their youngest daughter , their youngest daughter, lilibet. right, lilibet. but you're right, they're have a big they're going have a big hollywood style us management team with them whose purpose really is to keep them relevant on the world stage and make them lots of money. from prince harry's perspective , the reason harry's perspective, the reason he needs lots of money is pay for own protection . when for his own protection. when he's in the united states, he no longer money from uk longer receives money from uk taxpayers police protection taxpayers. his police protection . but we saw it in rey's report that we saw it this morning with

ellie costello outside the water. the waterstones piccadilly. there aren't big queues around the block, are there? at moment to buy these books? no one might say that's because charles cameron and bath . everyone's going to buy an amazon. it must number one on amazon. it must number one on amazon right now. number four on the non—fiction charts as it stands, it's really shocking . stands, it's really shocking. that would be gutting for the publishers. it will at the moment. so i think we need to hope slightly when we get official figures for the first day. if people physically buying the book, we're not expecting that week. but that until next week. but yesterday , if you remember yesterday, if you remember before yougov poll before we got this yougov poll of prince harry's favourability with the british public and it's reached an all time low , even reached an all time low, even with the 18 to 24 year olds who are traditionally harry and meghan supporters , the scoring meghan supporters, the scoring was zero, which is the lowest level amongst the british public, british public, not the united states . but i was with united states. but i was with the prince and princess of wales in boston in the united states in boston in the united states in december for the earth shop,

for william's earthshot for prince william's earthshot prize and i was speaking to members of the public there and even they appear to be not quite in favour with harry and meghan quite, quite in favour with them as they once were. i they're growing tired of them playing this victim narrative which going to really struggle to get out of going forward. going forward. yeah he's done another interview with an american chat show host , which i believe interview with an american chat show host, which i believe is going to it's been recorded think it goes out at some point today and i the trailer for it and the host says to his audience and i'm going to be talking to harry and the audience go there's like a ripple of disapproval that's different because they were very popular in america when yeah thatis popular in america when yeah that is very interesting actually you're right he's doing an interview with the late show on the view as it was recorded overnight. uk time is going to be broadcast on tuesday is in

later on today . but you're later on today. but you're right, i think we getting this sense that there's a bit an issue now with how the public perceive prince harry and meghan they were heckled, if you remember, when they were going into the ripple of hope awards that awards they they received for standing up to what one interviewer managed to get out of the organiser of the events for standing up to institutional racism within the royal family. the global event wasn't. yes, yes. robert kennedy foundation . yes. robert kennedy foundation. and he did that. but they were heckled going in that by members of the saying you have to trust your family essentially and seems to be the issue. i think at the moment. and you know what, cameron, this comes between the death of the late queen, the upcoming coronation of prince charles in terms the royal family, the timing could not be worse in terms of disrupting the seamless narrative that they have liked to have portrayed . do you think to have portrayed. do you think he will now be invited to the

coronation to play a role? because it will. and this is the irony, cameron it will be like having a tabloid journalist in the room because there his next book, i think the difficulty for buckingham palace is that they do if they don't . and from my do if they don't. and from my understanding, the invitations not gone out to get spots . it's not gone out to get spots. it's understood that he is definitely planning to invite perhaps prince harry, but if he is ianed prince harry, but if he is invited , it's very unlikely that invited, it's very unlikely that he's going to have any constitutional role . constitutional role. traditionally, dukes of the realm would have to pay homage to the monarch. kneel, kneel before them. have it. when the monarch is crowned. none of that. we don't think is going to be happening. apart from the prince of wales. william, of course, the heir. but is going to these headlines, isn't to create these headlines, isn't it, if he doesn't turn up or if he then the headline is he isn't, then the headline is inevitably going to be . charles inevitably going to be. charles snubs youngest son from his snubs his youngest son from his own coronation, and then he becomes the victim that he's always he has been. it always said he has been. it becomes this self—fulfilling prophecy. will try prophecy. and then they will try and on that again, look, we were

they hate us so much. we're not even allowed at the coronation. whereas them, as whereas if they invite them, as i say, the irony is harry has basically cast himself in the role a journalist on the role of a journalist on the inside, the exact thing which he says that he hates. well was going to be the worry for the royal what's to say in royal family. what's to say in a year this after the year this time after the coronation, that he's going year this time after the co more on, that he's going year this time after the co more secrets he's going year this time after the co more secrets ofz's going year this time after the co more secrets of private joing year this time after the co more secrets of private he|g to more secrets of private he had with william or charles or whoever they try and there's another book or in another interview and that's the issue that he's really distrusted at the moment. think the it's the moment. i think the it's because post coronation because the post coronation party they will have to say to him is this on the record harry, or is this an off the record conversation? i mean, it really, really does just throw it into disarray. this may cameron thank really does just throw it into disacan this may cameron thank really does just throw it into disacan ithis may cameron thank really does just throw it into disacan i justmay cameron thank really does just throw it into disacan i just also cameron thank really does just throw it into disacan i just also point on thank really does just throw it into disacan i just also point out hank you can i just also point out i think this is a very telling picture on the back of the book. look you know, we sort of say a bit of a manchild and they stuck in child roles his in these child roles and his aduu in these child roles and his adult well. you know, we adult role as well. you know, we can psychoanalyse picture can psychoanalyse the picture that's chosen the back that's been chosen for the back of is there listening of the book is there listening on sorry, it's harry

on the radio. sorry, it's harry dressed soldier when he was dressed a soldier when he was probably about, i don't know, nine or ten years old. cameron you you reading you i'll let you get reading through the diary to through the whole diary to get that. i forget. want to that. i don't forget. i want to know what you think. we've got our twitter this morning know what you think. we've got our tthe er this morning know what you think. we've got our tthe er being morning know what you think. we've got our tthe er being released with the book being released today. be buying a copy, today. you be buying a copy, cast your now. well surprise , cast your now. well surprise, surprise, about 95% of you. so far say that you will not be buying it. if not, let me know why. and if you are buying it, let me know as well. you can send me an email gb views at gbnews.uk or tweet at gb news. now, after the break, historian david starkey, who better to talk to you on a like today talk to you on a day like today about and the former of about harry and the former of the law society i, stephanie boyce , will be joining me on the boyce, will be joining me on the show. stick with to find out also a new bill going also about a new bill going through parliament today that might end to the might help put an end to the strikes , though. time for strikes, though. time for a quick break. don't go anywhere .

give good morning. it's 1021. give good morning. it's1021. this is bev turner today gb news. now, let me introduce you to my panellist morning. i'm delighted to be joined by former of the law society of england and wales. i stephanie boyce and his story and broadcaster david starkey. right. we're not going to start with harry, believe it or not, we've got plenty of time this morning. what a loss, really, to talk about that. so we're going to talk about a strike so this is as the government to bill government prepare to a bill into parliament to basically do what's david starkey, how would you describe this? i can't work out. whether this is protecting the public and the passengers rights or suffocating the rights of workers ? well, i think it's of workers? well, i think it's deaung of workers? well, i think it's dealing an intractable problem , dealing an intractable problem, which is that a in public services, i know because i used to work for a sort one in the

universities is essentially a strike against the employer. but the people who benefit from the service , that's to say it's service, that's to say it's a strike against patients. if you're a doctor or a nurse, in the case of a teacher or, university teacher, it's a strike. your student, if you're a civil servant, it's a strike against everybody else. and when i was a long, long time ago , i was a long, long time ago, when i was in the position when i was an academic, i was a member, the association of university teachers. i refused take part in a strike which would have affected really denied people their exam results. it was a notion that we would not mock exam papers . i would not mock exam papers. i thought that was a fundamental rupture of my duty to a student. okay we've got rail workers, health workers, education workers , fire, border security . workers, fire, border security. we've got so many strikes now . we've got so many strikes now. stephanie, here's my concern, david said it's a solution to a temporary problem. but isn't it

with a permanent reduction of workers rights if this is enshrined in law ? well, enshrined in law? well, absolutely . but i enshrined in law? well, absolutely. but i think we should be clear that this legislation that we understand is going to be proposed by the government this afternoon, is to take time to go through parliaments . it's take time to go through parliaments. it's going to be subject to appeal because i doubt if it does become law that the unions are going to take it lying down. they are, of course, going to want to exercise their rights appeal in all rights in appeal in all appealing this legislation. i think the difficulty here is that the complexity of legislation in this area is not very clear . and when the very clear. and when the government says this is going this proposed legislation , it's this proposed legislation, it's going to put an end to forever strike it. that is not correct because the right to strike is not actually we will find it difficult to find the right to strike embedded in any legislation, anywhere on our current statute . okay. it's current statute. okay. it's about the ability to collectively bargain to assemble

and, so forth. that's where the rights actually derive from. but they're not really rights at all, are they? i mean, let's get this quite clear there is no such thing . and we do not such thing. and we do not basically a right to based law or a rights constitution. what happened was at the beginning of the 20th century, trade unions effectively granted exempt from the law of contract and damages. in other words, before that point, an employer could actually sue trade unions for conspiracy to deprive them of profit or . whatever so what you profit or. whatever so what you have is an exemption from law. it's very complicated , right. so it's very complicated, right. so and again, what i think we should really be doing is looking at the peculiar status of a country in which now so many people are called public servants . we should be looking servants. we should be looking at their very privileges. they have extraordinary pension benefits. if you actually look a

pubuc benefits. if you actually look a public sector worker, they have something that is virtually unique in the world which no longer exists in the private sector. they have defined benefits . a public sector worker benefits. a public sector worker gets effectively double the pension. it's really important we get the scale, double all the pension contributions of a typical worker in the private sector. and you think about 80 days, i think it's utterly unjustifiable. we and again, we've also got to be asking fundamental questions the public sector seems to me dare i say this yes on i'm on gb news on this yes on i'm on gb news on this i can say anything on tv news and i hope stephanie will argue about i think i just about i think the public sector has become there whole areas where it doesn't work . stephanie, you it doesn't work. stephanie, you agree? i wouldn't go that far. but what i would say is you go part of the way, wouldn't you? well, perhaps not. what i would say we are here to disagree on.

absolutely i would say is that the course of public opinion, i think both sides, the government or all sides have to be aware of the changing tide of the course of public opinion . and of of public opinion. and of course, there are some sectors that are striking that are gaining more sympathy from , the gaining more sympathy from, the public, than others. and i think the line is, is that we are economic turmoil, people need to get to work. our economy needs to get working . and with strike to get working. and with strike action going on, it's not helping goose . that's putting it helping goose. that's putting it very mildly. but can we can we just go back to this point about let's just take a case. we you mentioned the fact we're dealing with an economic crisis. it follows directly from covid the decision to down the absurd business of furlough and whatever. can go back to the beginning of covid crisis. first of all, we decided we going to park the nhs the nhs was going to become purely a national covid service . it just totally

covid service. it just totally failed to recover . it is failed to recover. it is manifestly failing its most fundamental duties of care, even in emergencies. the one thing we used to be able to say about the nhs, at least it might be hopeless for false called elective surgery , but it's no elective surgery, but it's no longer that. look at the queues outside emergency departments . outside emergency departments. can i remind everybody at the beginning of the great crisis of 2020, everybody thought we were going to have a similar crisis over food supplies. yes and there was even a notion , leftish there was even a notion, leftish academics. we want a national food service . can you imagine if food service. can you imagine if we'd had a national food service, we would still all be existing on and butter. if there was any at where's the supermarkets coped with exactly the same crisis of covid the same problems of workers going sick, the same problems of interrupt its supplies. and it scarcely a blip . david, are we scarcely a blip. david, are we really compare we should be hits

and supermarket with the nhs. we should be. but but the whole point is fully necessary. we took this solution, but it's only public sector workers who are necessary. we need to eat before we need medical. do we know the reason? the reason that that actually our health is so much better is that our food is okay. go on stephanie. yeah, but do we not already have a national a de facto national food bank service? there are so many in the last couple of years we've seen so many food banks spnng we've seen so many food banks spring up , we've seen so many food banks spring up, many of them. but they're just they're just the margin. i mean, we are also i mean , come on yourself, as she mean, come on yourself, as she talks about . let's have the talks about. let's have the maths. we are dealing with. i would reckon the most 2% of the population who are using food , population who are using food, who are using food banks. that's 2% too many in a country. who are using food banks. that's 2% too many in a country . well, 2% too many in a country. well, no, it's not the we are always with us always the largest economy in the world. 2% is 2. i

suggest to many the fact is because it's just people are people are there are huge numbers of people , again, who numbers of people, again, who should be an institution of care. the number you seen food banks there are clearly there are people who find budgeting extraordinarily . i think the extraordinarily. i think the prime minister, the notion that the state can abolish poverty is silly. poverty is fundamental is a result of complex factors, one of which is human incapacity we call very cold. but we have to human nature of a story. we're wondering what it is. so a little bit later there about the fact that rolls—royce have got record something has record sales. so something has gone wrong, that we've got more food banks the same time that we've record sales. so we've got record sales. so equally, people eat better than they've ever done. but can we just people to know just get some people to know everything they know? some people everybody . no, no, people know everybody. no, no, no, you wrong. more calories no, no. you wrong. more calories were not, you know . but that is were not, you know. but that is thought the result of choice. we look , we live the statistics are

look, we live the statistics are unchallengeable. we live longer . we live healthier. we live better lives than any generation has ever done before. i would stop speaking now . i know that stop speaking now. i know that there are children who are going to be forced to die before. their parents, of course, are off. of course, and their children going to school this very morning without having nothing to eat. it is three proposals being put on the table today to suggest that the for when somebody becomes eligible for free school meals should be raised because the 7000 or whatever it is it's not enough and doesn't capture everybody. so what we suggesting all we suggesting a national to always suggesting a national to always suggesting we should equip in our citizens with the tools the necessary tools required to deal with the everyday issues that we are now facing , whether that's are now facing, whether that's living longer, whether that's nhs in crisis, whether it's the right food or the nutritious food or so forth . we are food or so forth. we are a country dare i say it, in crisis. well when you probably

all agree with that, wouldn't we know? i don't think we there's a sort of crisis . but again, can sort of crisis. but again, can we just get the basic facts right? we better off than any has ever been before . the fact has ever been before. the fact that these benefits are not distributed evenly is, i'm afraid the result of the fact that we're a free society. take the solution to this problem and the solution to this problem and the solution to stephanie's problem of inadequate rearing is that we are talking. i didn't say that. no, just one second. i didn't know to how charge you. just one second. let me let paul because, it is really important. the solution to stephanie's of child poverty and whatever is that we have a national child service that we decide we have a kibbutz as a bit as israel originally decided to do or as thomas more thought happen and that the bringing up of children is too important to be left to families . we should have families. we should have a national service that would do just as well as not. oh no , no, just as well as not. oh no, no, no, no. i'm not. i'm i promise

you that. you nobody else will raise my children better than me. all the many mothers of which that's not well, i would also say that any child that's going to school without breakfast, i think is just pull parenting it. poor parenting porridge is cheap . my kids have porridge is cheap. my kids have porridge. if you say porridge is five, portion. well, i'd five, pay a portion. well, i'd love to know which porridge you're it's sometimes you're using. it's sometimes i agree are issues, but agree there are issues, but there certainly issues that there are certainly issues that at cost of food and i have at the cost of food and i have to admit i don't do my own shop it mother helps me that because your mom help your mum does she shop here. i know it's terrible it's not nowt to talk about, but she talk about independence . i she talk about independence. i know i'm flying. she's sitting here holding your hand and telling you what she does it best that the night . telling you what she does it best that the night. but telling you what she does it best that the night . but the best that the night. but the point is there are people out there with through either the fact that our prime minister now wants the age at which we wants extend the age at which we are but we stopped a bus because we don't have the necessary tools and i agree that it's down

tools and i agree that it's down to poor parents and i think that sometimes life slows things at us. yeah, but i'm not sure this take to be that we have to always provide the porridge anyway. we've got lots to get through. we got into the 90 minutes first of all, minutes of this. first of all, though, here's your news with something . thanks very much , something. thanks very much, beth. it's 1034. something. thanks very much, beth. it's1034. here something. thanks very much, beth. it's 1034. here is the latest . a new bill to ensure latest. a new bill to ensure a level of public service during strike action is to be introduced . the government introduced. the government today, the legislation would require some trade union members to continue working during strikes. it comes amid a wave of industrial action across the sector in a dispute over pay. business secretary grant shapps told gb news the legislation is necessary to protect the public . we don't really ever want to have to use that legislation legislation in those most recent strikes. the royal college nursing. the nurses agreed a set national level of support. unfortunately, we couldn't get

there with ambulances across the country meaning. there was a bit of a postcode lottery as to whether an ambulance would turn up in the case of, you know, something serious , like a heart something serious, like a heart attack or stroke, and we can't have that. so common sense tells us need to have minimum us that we need to have minimum safety . meanwhile, safety levels. meanwhile, teachers in schools across scotland have begun first of their two day strike after failing to reach an agreement over pay with the scottish government. the current offer would see most staff in classrooms receive a 5% pay rise. but unions are demanding a 10% increase. primary school teachers will walk out today while staff at secondary schools will walk out tomorrow . prince will walk out tomorrow. prince harry's has finally hit the shelves. fans queued from midnight at some stores to get a copy of the duke of sussex. his book, spare, which contains intimate details of his life. several stories already been leaked as some bookstore in spain started selling the book last week . tv, online and dub

last week. tv, online and dub plus , this is.

gb news very good morning. it's 1038 gb news very good morning. it's1038 on tuesday morning is the day that harry's book is out. tuesday morning is the day that harry's book is out . are you harry's book is out. are you excited? i don't think many people are and a lot of you are not. you've been messaging me, richard said. thank goodness there's been a groundswell of disinterest in this book. i hope that this is financially damaging enough to both of them. and won't be well, it'll and it won't be well, it'll might be financially damaging to the the only the publisher. that's the only thing. i will thing. andrew says, i will not be spare. not harry be buying spare. i'm not harry the it will be in charity the money. it will be in charity shops within three months. i'll buy and spend my buy it then and i'll spend my money worthy cause. and money on a worthy cause. and hazel set absolutely won't hazel has set absolutely won't be buying the book, not going to

line pockets. he's line his pockets. he's rich enough it wasn't before. enough now if it wasn't before. patricia i did have it on patricia said, i did have it on order amazon. all this order with amazon. all this whingeing moaning i cancel whingeing and moaning i cancel gives . this could be the gives. this could be the publisher disaster of the century . honestly. i'm hoping to century. honestly. i'm hoping to have tomorrow to talk to somebody from the publishing industry on this because i do think it's incredibly interesting that they've spent so much i think about 20 so much money. i think about 20 million isn't it? and i'm million quid, isn't it? and i'm not anyone's going buy million quid, isn't it? and i'm n0'anyway,yone's going buy million quid, isn't it? and i'm noanyway, that's going buy million quid, isn't it? and i'm noanyway, that's what's buy million quid, isn't it? and i'm noanyway, that's what's wilth it. anyway, that's what's with paul going to buy paul today. are you going to buy it? me now. campaign is it? let me now. a campaign is underway introduce paid leave underway to introduce paid leave parents suffer parents who suffer a miscarriage. the snp mp angela crawley is introducing a private member's bill that seeks grant three days of statutory paid leave to parents who experience miscarriage before 24 weeks of pregnancy . and she's called on pregnancy. and she's called on fellow mp to back her and estimated one in four pregnancies. i think it's probably more than that ends in miscarriage. but paid bereavement leave is only provided following stillbirth after 24 weeks. joining me now isjuue after 24 weeks. joining me now

is julie cook, a journalist who had a miscarriage in her late twenties . good morning, julie had a miscarriage in her late twenties. good morning, julie . twenties. good morning, julie. thank you very much for me now. when i read this as a proposal it was kind of surprising to me that we didn't already accommodate the need for a little bit of time off work for women who have a miscarriage and potentially their partners as well to support them . exactly. well to support them. exactly. yeah and that's the thing. i think when you when you read this and you see this as a campaign, you think what doesn't exist already and it doesn't. and i have had three miscarriages over my lifetime is, as you rightly said, i think it's than in four it's more than one in four pregnancies ends in miscarriage. so the first time i was employed, i was in twenties and my boss, that was actually very kind about it gave me a couple of days off. but lots of women aren't so lucky . and it's not aren't so lucky. and it's not just that it's this sort of societal pressure to get back to work as well . if you lose a baby work as well. if you lose a baby after 24 weeks, rightly , is an

after 24 weeks, rightly, is an awful thing to go through. and you supported, as you rightly should be . but before you kind should be. but before you kind meant to just get on with it. and i think that's wrong. do you think most women be think most women would be embarrassed, perhaps , to tell embarrassed, perhaps, to tell their their colleagues on that boss that they're through this? and would this change in legislation help that ? i think legislation help that? i think definitely. i think people are embarrassed or , not necessarily embarrassed or, not necessarily embarrassed. perhaps they might tell close colleagues or friends, but they might feel they need to of woman up and get on with it. and that , as i said, on with it. and that, as i said, because it's showing perhaps you're very early in your pregnancy know when nobody knew and you almost fell out while it's a bit early. there's nothing really happened that's bad. you know, i should just get on with it when actually it internally might be very, very upset leaving, still bleeding and still through and still going through the physical of physical implications of miscarriage. and you feel a miscarriage. and yet, you feel a sort of shame in telling anybody . now, there might be some

people this julie, who might say, oh come it's part of say, oh, come on, it's part of life . this is just another life. this is just another reason for employees to wind. so help us understand what it might be like , what the cost might be be like, what the cost might be to that to the woman going through the miscarriage . i think through the miscarriage. i think there are lots and lots of costs. i mean, if you're employed , you fail. first of employed, you fail. first of all, you have to go because you're being paid and you might lose pay if you don't. secondly, you have to a face. you have to put a face on. so you might have had several miscarriages. this might eighth might be your eighth miscarriage. think miscarriage. and you think you're have baby. you're never going to have baby. so going through so you are going through a lot emotionally, lot mentally and emotionally, a lot mentally and you might not feel like a logically ready to face people if you're a customer facing if you're in a customer facing role you have a role example or if you have a very job. so i think this new legislation, if it comes through , would give women sort of a blanket from that and to feel empowered always to say this has happened to me. yes, i didn't show, perhaps. yes. it's common. but i there's legislation to support that. mm hmm. okay.

well, is there some pmp? angela crawley is her private member's bill. we will let our listeners and our viewers know how gets on with that. but thank you so much for joining me there. that is forjoining me there. that is journalist. journalist julie cooke. thanks, julie . now, did cooke. thanks, julie. now, did you say were launching a rocket yesterday ? didn't go terribly yesterday? didn't go terribly well, did it , yesterday? didn't go terribly well, did it, in its mission to send satellites orbit just after 10:00 last night, the rocket 35,000 feet into the atmosphere as thousands watched. but shortly midnight, a live stream announced that the mission had failed. all southwest of england. reporter jeff moody has england. reporterjeff moody has the story . they came by the the story. they came by the busload eager to witness history once in a lifetime. staying in might not happen again in our lifetimes. i thought we'd come and see it and very excited . and see it and very excited. this means so much to the cornish. a fledgling space industry that's set to earn the duchy a quarter of £1,000,000,000 a year. jobs, opportunities . the sky's the

opportunities. the sky's the limit . spaceport newquay has limit. spaceport newquay has waited months for a flight window, a time when conditions are just right. window, a time when conditions are just right . down window, a time when conditions are just right. down on earth. the drinks flowed. the party started started , but then . started started, but then. newquay, we have a problem . it newquay, we have a problem. it appears that launch woman has suffered an anomaly which will prevent us from making orbit for mission. we are looking at the information and data that we gotten. it's five to midnight and there's been a real party atmosphere here at newquay . but atmosphere here at newquay. but the plane is just coming in to land now . and we've heard that land now. and we've heard that there's been an anomaly and the mission hasn't succeeded . the mission hasn't succeeded. the atmosphere here has suddenly changed. well, i don't know what went wrong technically . went wrong technically. everything seemed to be going perfectly well. you know, the plane took off the rocket left the plane as planned. and then something in that final phase of

getting the rocket into the right order is clearly going wrong, which meant satellites couldn't be couldn't be released. i mean, hugely huge , released. i mean, hugely huge, disappointing, but i still think an awful lot for us to be positive. from spaceport cornwall's of view tonight , as cornwall's of view tonight, as the news filtered through people drifted away. it wasn't the evening they hoped for. it's not what spaceport cornwall hoped for either. yes, it the wrong orbit. so if you think about going round the earth, it will kind of its height. so it will have reached a limited high into . but effectively that second stage firm is trying get it to about 500 kilometres above the earth. that didn't happen. so we need to work out what happened, why that was the case. yeah, awful . to be honest. why that was the case. yeah, awful. to be honest. i'm not going to lie . it's it is just going to lie. it's it is just like it was gutting. it was what all heard at different times . so all heard at different times. so once we kind of got together, there were tears , and it was there were tears, and it was very upsetting . it's not the end very upsetting. it's not the end . space missions sometimes fail

, and with each failure, they learn . they adapt. they try learn. they adapt. they try again . but no one doubts the again. but no one doubts the ferocity of this blow. the team will now rest, regroup and reach for the stars again. jeff moody . gb for the stars again. jeff moody. gb them that was going to happen. nothing works in this country anymore . david starkey stephanie anymore. david starkey stephanie boyce i call you a vending to work on a station platform. we weren't manage to weren't going to manage to launch we? dave launch a rocket, were we? dave it matter . i launch a rocket, were we? dave it matter. i think it it doesn't matter. i think it does. space satellites is one of the absolute deep growth areas. more and more things depend on it. more and more things will on it. more and more things will on it. we should have a presence we invented so many of these things. i mean, there has been there's been a tendency for to try to do everything , to do try to do everything, to do everything rather badly and not, for example a country like holland, the netherlands , which holland, the netherlands, which focuses on a relatively few things and does them very well.

stephanie was there a sense, though, you know, the moment when we've we've got this cost of lockdown living crisis, whatever you want to call it , whatever you want to call it, and we can't even pay our public servants this, does it feel a bit sort of. it's not reading the room to be indulging in such an expensive . well i think it's an expensive. well i think it's fair to say that this will have come as a disappointment for many, including the mission lead virgin orbit whose shares slumped very quickly after fell down as quick as a rocket right and private falling down. guy so you're confusing i know i know i knew she'd say private sector money if a private sector wants to do something, it money if a private sector wants to do something , it carries the to do something, it carries the risk . this is the great risk. this is the great difference between the public and private sector. there is genuine risk if you fail , you genuine risk if you fail, you fail. if you do well, you make a lot of money. and that seems to me to be a pretty. yeah, i know you write. i know write. i think

i think the thing is doing this yesterday and i was thinking why is it not gripping me? you know, i was trying to be enthusiastic about. you could see in my eyes on the tv, i wanted to be enthusiastic, but it just doesn't relevant. does doesn't feel relevant. does it feel the of relevant? feel like the kind of relevant? i people are buying i don't think people are buying into were you know, into if we were all, you know, sloshing at moment with sloshing around at moment with tonnes bank tonnes of money in our bank accounts we all at these accounts and we all at these safe at a secure future, we safe jobs at a secure future, we might able to sit back and might be able to sit back and 90, might be able to sit back and go, oh, look at that rocket. that's really fun. well, i mean, for the 2000 spectators that turned watch launch, turned out to watch the launch, so to 75,000 who so forth and up to 75,000 who watched stream. it's watched it live stream. i'm it's very and of course to very relevant and of course to the orbit members stock the virgin orbit members stock stock shareholders. know stock shareholders. yeah i know what meant and stock but you what you meant and stock but you know virgin i think the know virgin orbit i think the difficulty private sector the difficulty private sector the difficulty here if it's not successful if it's not and it hasn't been you know, 76% over the past year, the stocks has been down. it only launched two missions in 2020 to. and then we've got this failed mission. virgin orbit is in a bit of dire straits up it suggests maybe .

straits up it suggests maybe. well i mean i need a robot geek on here to tell me why it really, really matters. i'll be able to be convinced by a rocket geek who would, but we'd be over with that. even more convinced by most companies do. by what most companies do. i mean , i mean . but this isn't mean, i you mean. but this isn't this this is simply branson, again, getting an awful lot of pubuchy again, getting an awful lot of publicity for something. and in case it goes wrong . but what we case it goes wrong. but what we need, we do need failure . the need, we do need failure. the way that you win was really, really good at that . no, no, really good at that. no, no, we're really not. we are not because we protect far too many companies and far too many individuals , the consequences individuals, the consequences failure. one of the things where our educational system is failing dreadfully is not telling people failing . part of telling people failing. part of succeeding with that 100. but talking of failure , look at the talking of failure, look at the nhs overloaded . the nhs turns to nhs overloaded. the nhs turns to cabins in carparks. this is patients being treated in temporary cabins set up in hospital carparks on the plans to the crisis in the health

service . stephanie is this just service. stephanie is this just practical management of a very difficult situation or is it the sign off? i don't think we've ever had this before in the nhs. this is put in my opinion, this is put in a sticky, sticky plaster over a gaping wound when aneunn plaster over a gaping wound when aneurin bevan, the founding father of the nhs, a founder of nhs, it to establish a service , nhs, it to establish a service, would provide a good, strong and reliable health care. the difficulty with our care is it's not proactive it doesn't provide proactive health care. it provides health care. the difficulty is if we look at the principles that he established it on, is that the ability , it on, is that the ability, reliable health care at, the point of need and free at the point of need and free at the point of need . it's sad. point of need. it's sad. absolutely sad to witness the current and declining state of our national treasure, the nhs , our national treasure, the nhs, and shifting patients from hospitals to hotels, care, homes, whatever . i'm unclear. homes, whatever. i'm unclear. absolutely long term what vision

is me to how this even helps? what is solution? david starkey the solution sane and tesco? well you know, just one second. they've been quite big up. let me know . no, they've been quite big up. let me know. no, no. they've been quite big up. let me know . no, no. what we need they've been quite big up. let me know. no, no. what we need is what, for example, the israelis have there. you've got several competing nhs style systems in the same way sainsbury's and tesco are doing the same thing in the same area and competing viciously to do it . and then you viciously to do it. and then you get an exciting couple of newcomers coming in like little and all they get. we're talking about wheat, but that is a of structure we need for the nhs. that's what america has. no, it's not. no app lutely, not what america has. these are systems which again are largely free at the point of use and they are a mixture . they're a they are a mixture. they're a mixture of insurance and state funded like the european model.

but the israelis seems to work particularly well because of the intensely competitive nature of the providers. and you see again the providers. and you see again the nhs is a product purely of its time , a product of 1945, its time, a product of 1945, it's a of a wartime economy in which everything, everything , which everything, everything, food, the lot is centrally what you whether you could buy a pair of nylons , a half a pound of of nylons, a half a pound of sugar was determined by the state we're no longer in that world and the nhs. what what. we're just failing to recognise is the nhs doesn't work. i'm not entirely sure that making it and i think what you say you're talking about, i get complete private. no, no i'm not talking clinicians and so. so we have been eating competitions, looking but i've said but then sorry wouldn't look at how much better our food have become with exactly what i look like, how much worse our train cars have become and our transport. no, no

, that's just not true. that is also so that means we got some. i'm old enough to run stuff. i'm old enough to remember british railways . old enough to remember british railways. i'm enough to railways. i'm old enough to remember filth . i'm old remember the filth. i'm old enough remember the appalling enough to remember the appalling trains. to take 5 hours. trains. it used to take 5 hours. you can't get clothes on. some days you can't get anywhere on the trains. well i'm absolutely fascinated, david, with erm with your interest in so. no because the models of the efficiency, their models of spectacularly efficiency which deliver quality , they deliver value . generally , they deliver value. generally speaking you suggested that should get tesco's, sainsbury's, whoever in to. we should be borrowing them. we should be using cabs, we should be using those methods of those of financial control above all the methods of it that we've got. and then telling a public service that fails totally at it, not even the inland revenue can actually make it work . there can actually make it work. there was an attempt, i know, because

i'm that sort of a taxpayer which was called make tax digital . i which was called make tax digital. i don't which was called make tax digital . i don't know whether digital. i don't know whether you stubbornly if you understood how though how how using the supermarket model , which has supermarket model, which has improved our ability to access cheaper food, would better food and much better, much more. they're not necessary any healthier food, though, than down to your local greengrocer, your local fishmonger, you know, your local fishmonger, you know, your local fishmonger, you know, your local butcher. that was better quality locally. so most of it i was i was now you get you live your salmon survive from you know over in china . from you know over in china. have you have you have any idea of what the typical grocers used to be like? the my auntie nora who died. i used to fly blown rubbish that was on sale . no, i rubbish that was on sale. no, i was unrefrigerated . i mean this was unrefrigerated. i mean this is mythical that it really is mythical nowadays. again, what the supermarkets have done is to produce exactly what i'm describing would do with with with a health service. they produce intense localised competition because you get a

really class butchers, a really high . but i don't see how we high. but i don't see how we take out the global influence from health i mean we are we are beholden to internation law pharmaceutical companies for instance that we have to dig down a bit more. but do you understand what david means in terms of increasing competition in the nhs? i don't. i don't because i think the difficulty is there are so many different the nhs complex and all current issues that it faces complex and we're discussing one particular aspect of it. but there are so different aspects coupled with the fact that actually the nhs is still revered by so many in this country and across the world. no because it is regarded with contempt across song . with contempt across song. right. okay, we've got to end of our first hour. we're going to be right back with more on prince harry's new book. but don't let that put you off on labour's shadow work and pensions secretary. jonathan labour's shadow work and pensions willatary. jonathan labour's shadow work and pensions willatarsetting han labour's shadow work and pensions willatarsetting out his ashworth will be setting out his plan what welfare would look plan for what welfare would look like government. like under a labour government. but first, is your hello

but first, here is your hello alex deakin here with the latest weather updates . not as cold out weather updates. not as cold out there today, but it's not a pleasant day, darling the wet in many areas that rain quite heavy in spots and we do have in some spots and we do have a number office yellow number met office yellow warnings in place low pressure is responsible weather fronts draped across country . draped across the country. plenty of icy bars on the chart as well. it is blustery , is as well. it is blustery, is cloudy, it is damp . and for some cloudy, it is damp. and for some rain, especially heavy over south of scotland, snow first england and at times parts of west say we do have a number of met office yellow rainfall warnings in place, it's now warnings in place, but it's now in scottish mountains, in the scottish mountains, that's lasting long that's not lasting too long as the warmer pushes in here, the warmer air pushes in here, the warmer air pushes in here, the easing somewhat now the rain easing somewhat now over and eastern , but over central and eastern, but staying quite grey and damp, staying quite grey and damp, staying blustery, but it is mild. temperatures in double digits, even into the teens in some spots . a windy evening with some spots. a windy evening with further rain for wales it gets very overnight across very windy overnight across northern we have another met office yellow warning in place here the strength of the here for the strength of the wind. rain crosses well something bit drier then

something a bit drier then arrives through the night with clearer spells. it doesn't tend to chilly, though, because of the strength of the wind that will actually help to keep temperatures degrees above freezing for. of us. it freezing for. most of us. and it will sunshine first thing will bring sunshine first thing on wednesday morning, but then the will going. the showers will get going. plenty of showers in west plenty of showers in the west throughout morning. of throughout the morning. much of the east will have a dry morning. the morning. i suspect but the showers will in here . we showers will move in here. we go through day. heavy showers through the day. heavy showers blown by a stiff and gusty blown along by a stiff and gusty winds. some again over the scottish temperature wise, drops down to back closer to average , down to back closer to average, feeling a lot colder because of the strength of the wind and certainly the heavy showers come along of which they still be plenty through tomorrow evening, may ten dry for a time, but then at this another area of rain coming in, potentially causing some further issues because the ground is wet at the moment. that'll bring a spell of right across the country on thursday. blustery on friday, but perhaps a little drier , turning a bit a little drier, turning a bit colder into the weekend . some

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channel very good morning welcome . have very good morning welcome. have tennis day on gb news you've been me know what you think about harry case ? i'd rather pay about harry case? i'd rather pay an annual subscription to caravan his monthly than by his

book cassette, maybe his book my cassette, maybe his isn't proving because isn't proving popular because it's factual category. it it's in the factual category. it would better in the face know would do better in the face know category would probably to category would probably go to the in the fantasy the top of charts in the fantasy . and rachel says, why would anyone read how he's a anyone to read about how he's a poor victim , his family are poor victim, his family are awful to him? news flash there are victims and are real victims out and families not perfect . and families are not perfect. and they'll be talking to a brilliant about brilliant psychotherapist about harry moment . we're harry in just a moment. we're also to be taking live also going to be taking a live speech from shadow work and pensions secretary jonathan ashworth. across ashworth. as thousands across the to cope the country struggle to cope with crisis, with cost of living crisis, labour will set out what welfare would look like under their party. we're going to take that at life. that's all coming , at life. that's all coming, though, after a look at the latest news . get get morning. latest news. get get morning. i'm tamsin roberts in the gb newsroom. it's 11:01 i'm tamsin roberts in the gb newsroom. it's11:01 and new bill to ensure minimum level of pubuc bill to ensure minimum level of public during strike action is to be introduced by the government today . the government today. the legislation would require some trade union members to continue

working during strikes. it comes amid a wave of industrial action across the public sector and a dispute over pay business secretary grant shapps told gb news the legislation is necessary to protect the public. we don't really ever want to have to use that legislation. legislation in those most recent strikes. the royal college of nursing. the nurses agreed a set national level of support. unfortunately, we get there with ambulances across the country, meaning there was a bit of a postcode lottery as to whether an ambulance would turn up in the case of something serious, like a heart attack or a stroke and we can't have that. so common sense tells us that we need to have minimum safety levels . meanwhile, teachers in levels. meanwhile, teachers in schools across scotland have begun the first of their two day strike after failing to reach an agreement over pay with the scottish government. the current would see most staff in classroom receive a 5% pay rise. but unions are demanding a 10% increase. primary school teachers will walk out today

while staff at secondary schools will out tomorrow . labour has will out tomorrow. labour has a package of welfare reforms under their leadership to help people return to work . under the plan, return to work. under the plan, the claimants will try paid work and if it doesn't work out within a year they can go back to the benefits they were on previously. labour also plans a further reform of employment support for the over fifties. shadow work and pensions secretary jonathan ashworth claims the reform will help disabled people or those on sickness find work . what i'm sickness find work. what i'm proposing today, a new measures, new reforms, new thinking to support people who say they to return to work. now in this country, we've got a million people looking work who want a job. and we've got hundreds of thousands of people who are currently designated as long term sick but say they would want to work given the right support . the uk's first ever support. the uk's first ever space launch has ended in

failure after engineers say it suffered an anomaly . the virgin suffered an anomaly. the virgin orbit jet took off from cornwall late last night, carrying a rocket with nine small satellites over the atlantic ocean. the american firm says the rocket failed to enter the orbit after it was released . orbit after it was released. there'll be an investigation into the incident the coming days. into the incident the coming days . prince harry's memoir has days. prince harry's memoir has a final hit. the shelves . fans a final hit. the shelves. fans queued from midnight at some stores to get a copy of the duke of sussex. his book spare, which contains intimate details of his life. several stories already been leaked to some bookstores in spain. started selling it last week. professor . chris last week. professor. chris mcfadden was the first in line to pick up copies. i really want to pick up copies. i really want to know why the young man would the country he locked and he lived in. i was ready to die for because he went to war. he could

have been taking out at any time . so he wasn't a ceremonial soldier. he a war. so if you fight for a country , why would fight for a country, why would you want to abandon the country 7 you want to abandon the country ? a teacher in the us has been hailed hero by police after evacuating pupils from a classroom after being shot by a six year old boy. 25 year old abigail swann was shot by one of her pupils at richard elementary school in virginia last friday. police say the boy fired one shot which hit her hand and chest, but the teacher still managed to escort her students to safety . she is in hospital in to safety. she is in hospital in a stable condition . amazon says a stable condition. amazon says it plans to shut three uk warehouses , which could impact warehouses, which could impact more than a thousand jobs. sites in hemel hempstead, doncaster and gourock close. it's understood workers will be offered roles at other amazon locations. the company also revealed plans for two major centres in the west midlands and

the north—east which will create two and a half thousand jobs over the next three years. a new report has revealed electric vehicle drivers have to pay more , charge their batteries on long journeys and those who pay for fuel. journeys and those who pay for fuel . an rac report shows that fuel. an rac report shows that drivers now pay around $0.20 per mile due to the rising cost electricity. the per mile costs for a petrol car is $0.17. the met office has issued yellow weather warnings across wales north england and the south—west scotland. 60 to 80 millimetres of rain is expected to fall. the met office is urging to beware of flooding and disruption to transport. it'll be heaviest in the western areas but will be a wet and windy day all over the country . this is gb news move me country. this is gb news move me in half an hour now. it's country. this is gb news move me in half an hour now . it's over in half an hour now. it's over to .

to. bev very good morning . welcome back very good morning. welcome back to bev turner. today on gb news. coming up this hour, prince harry's 400 page memoir, spare has hit bookshelves across the country with more intimate details of his life and the ongoing feud with his family. waterstones says that prince harry's book has been one of its biggest pre—order titles for a decade , its only ranking at decade, its only ranking at number four on amazon. it's not doing well, to be honest. and a lot of you are saying you're not going buy it. also this morning, labour promising a package of welfare reforms, get people back into and end they into the workforce and end they are monumental waste are calling a monumental waste human potential. we're to human potential. we're going to hear the shadow hear live from the shadow secretary for work and secretary of state for work and pensions ashworth little bit pensions ashworth a little bit later . and as the first space later. and as the first space launched from british soil failed to make orbit yesterday, we'll find out why the mission,

which took off from spaceport cornwall is called a fail cornwall is being called a fail because of an anomaly. we'll find out what that means. and of course, this is nothing course, this show is nothing without your views today without you and your views today on got a poll on twitter. we've got a poll asking you prince harry's books is today. you be buying is out today. will you be buying a cast your vote. email a copy? cast your vote. email me. also, gb views at gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news to have your say . so or tweet me at gb news to have your say. so in order to work out how enthusiastic the nation is about buying prince harry's books. is about buying prince harry's books . i mean, personally, i books. i mean, personally, i can't believe there's anything left in it that we haven't already seen in an interview or in one of our newspaper papers. we've sent our reporters out to test the mood of the nation. ellie costello she's outside one of the biggest bookshops in london. ellie, are you elbow , london. ellie, are you elbow, elbow jostling through the crowds there ? not quite, but i crowds there? not quite, but i mean, quite anti—climax to honest with you, this is the

book that everyone is talking about we've become very familiar with this picture and this title in the past few days. haven't we read, outside waterstones in right now, which is one of the biggest bookshops in the whole of london. just take a look at what is in their front window. of course it's one book and one book needs spare by prince harry. they say memoir. everyone is talking about. and the doors open here at 8:00 this morning. but there were 40 or 50 journalists here . only one cast journalists here. only one cast to her name was caroline lennon . and i spoke to her inside waterstones . i . and i spoke to her inside waterstones. i asked . and i spoke to her inside waterstones . i asked her who she waterstones. i asked her who she expecting be the only person in. the queue this morning didn't expect me to be on my own. i thought there'd be a long queue. no i'm quite surprised . be no i'm quite surprised. be honest with you. i thought there'd be a lot more people . there'd be a lot more people. i'm saddened about that, to be honest. and what made you want to buy the books? there's been so leaks, hasn't. that's

so many leaks, hasn't. that's been in the press. oh, been so much in the press. oh, no, i just want. i just want to read about him. i've not turned up here be the first in the up here to be the first in the in the to be. i've done it in the queue to be. i've done it now, i was open. there'd be a lot more people share, to lot more people to share, to share comments with and share my comments with and there's to talk to. what's there's no to talk to. what's your first impression of the book? well, i like the picture, too , to be honest. i thought the too, to be honest. i thought the picture well, picture is quite nice. well, well and i've i've read well done. and i've i've read the interview . i can't wait for the interview. i can't wait for the interview. i can't wait for the audiobook . i'm going to i've the audiobook. i'm going to i've bought that already and i can't wait to read about his family that caroline was such a good sport and happy to chat to journalists after she bought her book.she journalists after she bought her book. she certainly wasn't expecting to be the only person in the queue this morning, but as she stepped to down the shop, she was absolutely surrounded by press and paparazzi and she said she now knows how princess diana felt being followed by the cameras . well, i've spent the cameras. well, i've spent the last hour or so by talking to passers and asking them if they're going to buy a copy of

'spare' this is what they told me. quite the picture is quite nice. it's. well well done. and of i've read the interviews. i can't wait for the audiobook . can't wait for the audiobook. i'm going to. i've bought that already and i can't wait to read about this family. i've seen a lot of stuff on tiktok, people talking a lot of good about it. that's like the new thing to do at the moment. talk about at the moment. i talk about pretty it's pretty open, pretty good. it's pretty open, pretty good. it's pretty open, pretty honest. so you're a person himself out there . person himself out there. everything fair enough to. yeah, ihave everything fair enough to. yeah, i have a respect for someone just going to air everything out and let the whole world know it is up to you worth it. and it's so at least here this morning, baby, it does seem like there's more press interest . there is more press interest. there is pubuc more press interest. there is public interest, but it is fair to say that the way we have bought books has changed. we were told that this book is was shrouded by the same sort security that we saw with the harry potter books. and perhaps

that's why we thought they'd be long queues of people as we saw in the early noughties buying those harry potter books. that's not the way we do it anymore. people do tend to order online and amazon have said that this is one of the best selling pre—ordered books that there has ever been. and waterstones this morning saying it's one of their most pre—ordered books of the past decade . i think now it's past decade. i think now it's sitting at number four on the amazon charts. it will be very interesting to see those figures when they come out next week to see how many people have actually physically bought the bookin actually physically bought the book in person today . but it book in person today. but it still bears people are going to continue to buy this book and the fallout of this book does continue . thank you, ali. well, continue. thank you, ali. well, down ellie costello, they're down ellie costello, they're down at waterstone in london. he really is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it? here is the book spare. i've got my borrowed cameron walker's copy just for a moment because i've got a fantastic hypnotherapist life coach psychotherapist chimp

mazzoni in the order in the audience with me i'd like to think we've got an audience at least there for joining me think we've got an audience at least there forjoining me in least there for joining me in the studio right here. first of all, at the picture on the all, look at the picture on the back.i all, look at the picture on the back. i think this is quite interesting. is prince harry dressed in a soldier's uniform at of about ten years at the age of about ten years old? what make of that? old? what do you make of that? first all? well, it's a first of all? well, it's a significant picture, obviously, because his because of the time when his life completely or soon life was completely or soon approaching the where his life would completely change. and this is probably a time of his life that he claims not to remember. we say is block starts and he's very it's very hard for him. remember, whatever it is that happened before the passing of his mother. so maybe this picture represents the good times the so what do you make of him and his story , your him and his story, your professional point of view? i've been really looking at the use , been really looking at the use, the language. i'm trying to keep professional heart because it's very easy to step into . come on, very easy to step into. come on, get on with it. grab these terms that i've heard by i. if i keep

my professional, i see so much dysfunction, i definitely see a process and element of persecution . complex is fixed persecution. complex is fixed in. his role and his role is almost like depicting the world like disney fairy tale almost like disney fairy tale almost like a marvel movie where there's dichotomy of the good and the bad, the evil and the victim and the villain. he uses the word a lot. and you know, in cycle ology, we have the term of prosecutor victim. this is a very simplistic way of seeing the world, the very way of seeing the people in his life. and it really , along with this and it really, along with this script of scene stage, there is the mean part and there is the good part. so he gives and he hands metaphorically parts. a handsome role to people. camilla is the stepmother. his father is absent emotionally, unable , absent emotionally, unable, express himself god. so he's absent . cinderella into the absent. cinderella into the scene with through meghan . maybe

scene with through meghan. maybe that role was his mother's role to meghan. he himself is helpless neglect and he talks about himself as feeling different , feeling ignored, different, feeling ignored, feeling . and then he has feeling. and then he has a brother from whom he probably expected support to maybe expected support to maybe expected his brother to take over the role of the mother. remember i mean, diana was the only emotion no carer and you know, it's very fascinating when he talks and he speaks about wanting his father , for example, wanting his father, for example, you know , you want to ask him, you know, you want to ask him, did you ever have him exactly. did you ever have did you ever have it? there is there is a kind of isn't that there's a huge of the huge kind of blurring of the lines think in so much of lines i think in so much of harry's perception of the world between, as say, reality. between, as you say, reality. yeah fiction . do you believe yeah and fiction. do you believe that it all stems from this trauma of losing mother and what that has done him psychologically? i think the journey the journey starts on birth . and i think the father birth. and i think the father being is maybe emotionally more and unavailable and, not as affectionate as wish you wanted

him to be. obviously all started from the very beginning , but you from the very beginning, but you know, to be all round it and healthy beings, we only need key primary competent carer. and that was his mother obviously the attachment with her is obvious . everything he sees the attachment with her is obvious. everything he sees and does.i obvious. everything he sees and does. i have obvious. everything he sees and does . i have to also elaborate does. i have to also elaborate on hypotheses. i see a process identification with his mother. if use this filter if i imagine identifying with his mother , identifying with his mother, then some of the things you say makes much more sense. you know, he himself seeing himself fleeing away from a danger that he perceives be real. so there is an element of delusion and in disconnect with reality , he disconnect with reality, he talks about fleeing the away from britain with his wife and children and this is very similar to what happening to diana a daily basis until the diana on a daily basis until the very last moment so the delusion the inability to see the world for what is his filter is the filter of a victim so is these characters and he has them are unidimensional he cannot contemplate a reality in which

each of those people is living their own trauma. they're much more complex they have good or bad like we all do. so hiring needs to the way i see it, he has to go in new jersey , has to has to go in new jersey, has to reclaim the privacy that he expects his father and brother to given once they start to confront ten days shore and conversing about it. he says he's had therapy and he his therapist in the book it can't have been good therapy she couldn't you see any therapy can have positive outcome and negative outcome the worst possible optimist keeps you stuck so . i have not yet seen stuck so. i have not yet seen and i haven't read the book yet. i haven't seen the way he's been speaking about it. a sign he's overcoming and he's becoming an aduu overcoming and he's becoming an adult is still very stuck . a adult is still very stuck. a position to become an adult and it's very easy to say grow up. but from an emotional point of view we have to do something view, we have to do something that means that we call cut the cord cut the cord

cord. you need to cut the cord with your mom and dad. what with your mom and your dad. what does mean it means that he does that mean it means that he needs to accept the father he is and he cannot change. father, step into all element of compassion for his father and also gratitude . i don't see also gratitude. i don't see anything that has been said. any guaranteed child, any actual enjoyment for his. you know what one would what it is that he was given what it is that he was available to him and how he could have shifted is reality in a positive way. and he become a positive operator. i mean, you see, you say that is doing things that are great from britain outside britain of choosing but right now is fixed in this position accuser he has become the villain he has made himself the villain. what does that do to the other part of the counterpart then? he's to a position of this is not and a necessary outset to facilitate conversation . do you feel conversation. do you feel sympathy for him as a therapist? i can see pain. i see pain i see all the disruptive patterns i

see dysfunction . so i feel a lot see dysfunction. so i feel a lot of compassion for. him what would you what would what of therapy do you think would help him? what would you recommend? definitely something him definitely something allows him to into the to go deeper into the subconscious, just to go deeper into the subconscious,just possibly subconscious, just as possibly hypnotherapy would him to hypnotherapy would allow him to detach and to create different meanings. i harry, it's not a to him necessarily the traumatised to him is the meanings and he create it out of those experiencing and the meaning comes through from all these interviews. i am different. i was treated differently, even simply for the fact that was the second. and i am disconnected . second. and i am disconnected. i'm not seen. i'm not the disruptive child . he trying to disruptive child. he trying to get attention in any way, shape or form. well, i hope because you let him as only you can find there on on twitter and everybody let's just hope he's because i think you know he's infuriating all look and we and he has response we respond to him like you would a disruptive and difficult child he's

infuriating we at his lack of gratitude as you say that he's got this life of luxury and yet he doesn't seem to appreciate what he has. and yet that we can most of us remember that little boy walking behind the his boy walking behind the when his mother him is only mother died little him is only thank so much for us. now thank you so much for us. now don't forget to in my twitter poll are asking the book poll we are asking with the book out today will buying a copy out today will be buying a copy maybe changed your and maybe that changed your mind and also email gb views gb news uk. that's our twitter poll at gb news. the book is out today. will you be buying it? let me know. 96% of you so far say that you will not be buying a copy. okay. now, were you considering whether you could splash out on an electric car? well, they just got more expensive. if the cost of charging electric cars has gone up by 58% in the energy crisis , won't get stuck into crisis, won't get stuck into that with my guess after a short .

break barry, good morning. it's 1123. barry, good morning. it's1123. you are with today on gb news. you've been getting in touch with me. leon has about the strikes i'm in the public sector and on the front line . david and on the front line. david starkey, who is one of my guests today, is right. about the pubuc today, is right. about the public becoming paris it public sector becoming paris it is blair's crammed public is tony blair's crammed public sectors to sectors with manages to implement vast changes. he strengthened managers the boots on ground and angela says on on the ground and angela says on the pensions contribution nurses and staff are retiring 55 and other staff are retiring 55 because of pensions. also good. i worked in the finance department a hospital with approximately 4000 employees and the monthly employees to the pension pot was approximately £1.2 million at that point. that is a huge amount of taxpayer money going towards pensions. it certainly feels like a state our institutions , our relationship institutions, our relationship with them is in a state of flux , is it not? right. moving on, another thing that is in a state

of flux, this is the role of the driver and our we have a war on motorists at the moment. stephanie boyce, one of the solutions of this, of course, that we all take the green opfion that we all take the green option and move to electric cars am far from convinced and they've just gone in price . they've just gone up in price. this is about affordability . this is about affordability. this is about affordability. this morning i had the privilege make the journey in a hydrogen car . i'd make the journey in a hydrogen car. i'd never even heard of that before. i have to admit. but the difficulties that would explain to me was around the infrastructure about that car how far one has to drive to top it up and so forth. and this is the same for electric vehicles. i'm not surprised that the cost has risen because i had when i had to spend a great deal of time back of a taxi, i time the back of a taxi, i a taxi driver, explain to me that this was, in his words, not mine. one of the biggest scams going know , going inasmuch that, you know, the hidden costs involved in in electric cars and of course we're seeing this now come to the fore. it's about affordability if you can afford the car in the first place. it's

about charging it and one of the reasons why i don't have an electric is i live out in the middle of nowhere and i have i'm that if i forget to charge it and the car runs out of i'm stuck. range anxiety is called an name for is it the phrase django? well, the rac has said that it now costs an average of $0.70, 70.3 pence per kilowatt hour for rapid pay. as you charging up from 40 for pay, which is a 58% rise in the cost of it. the idea, david starkey, that this used to be the cheap compared to fuel. now let me have a look at this 55 litre diesel car. you will pay on average 95 quid for a tank of fuel. average 95 quid for a tank of fuel . ev use a average 95 quid for a tank of fuel. ev use a charging to achieve the range on that range of 484 miles . will pay 9 to of 484 miles. will pay 9 to £8.59 on a rapid charger. so certainly electric cars are more expensive to . this makes no expensive to. this makes no sense if we're supposed to be

looking after the planet. i'm afraid it is the silly notion of looking after the planet that has got us into this mess. we decided we wanted net zero. we paid no to how we were going to get there. because it's not only that we're wanting our cost to run off electricity well if we're going to have heat pumps , we're going to have heat pumps, our houses will be entirely heated off electricity. if you can afford it or you will go hot or you'll go cold depending on the time of year. but nobody bothered to . what that means in. bothered to. what that means in. terms of the reliable generation of electricity, the whole of net zero is no doubt . but the way zero is no doubt. but the way it's been done is confused confuses practical and idealism and is subject to total lack of forethought. i mean, what is the astonish she is we decide we will get rid of coal generated power . what do we do? well, to a power. what do we do? well, to a large extent we replace it with

imported woodchip . we say imported woodchip. we say renewables. wonderful but of course, as new means of storing energy, when you've got too much, we can all surely agree that renewable energy taken from nature got to be better than . a nature got to be better than. a finite resource of coal gas. even if we still have several hundred years of those logic, why? well, logically think. but what is so important and infinite? what is what has to honestly lodge check of what is ? when you actually take into account everything, when you take into account the profound, difficult to your storage, what is we're doing is our civilisation . remember my rant civilisation. remember my rant to begin with about how much better off we are ? depends on better off we are? depends on one thing. above all, it is cheap energy . we have decided we cheap energy. we have decided we don't want cheap energy all and without means. not only will driving become problematic, not only will heating our houses become problematic, we

effectively and europe in general is abolishing heavy. so stephanie, how we square then how do we consider that conflict. hang on david. how do we square conflict between wanting people to be able to afford to move to heat, to wash their clothes , but also look their clothes, but also look after the planet's . there's a after the planet's. there's a conflict. there isn't . there. conflict. there isn't. there. there is absolutely a conflict. and, of course, behaviours and attitudes , attitudes feed into attitudes, attitudes feed into that conflict . i think about my that conflict. i think about my own behaviours , you know, turn own behaviours, you know, turn on these in not turn on the heat in putting the clothes in the drivers opposed to on a clothes clotheshorse. yeah this is about people's behaviours and the conflict between that cheaper energy or you know that we we've enjoyed as opposed to saving our planet. and the difficulty is for those who can afford it. so lots of people have got these electric but you know and initially they were quite for some people cost effective because there were incentives there from the government to put a charging point on your home to purchase vehicle and so forth.

but now lots of that has been including the tax associated with these . so last yearjeremy with these. so last year jeremy hunt announced that the annual car tax you know , moving away car tax you know, moving away from zero is now going to from 2025is from zero is now going to from 2025 is going to be phased up to 165, was always going to happen, though, right? that's exactly what the taxi driver told me. yeah because you've got to replace fuel duty. fuel duty . replace fuel duty. fuel duty. yeah. miles it was an enormous source of government revenue. in other words this is a classic case where we have will be ends with out the means that there has been no serious. far too much public policy is about what sounds good what is a sound bite in the short in the short term and you've to get the buy in from the public as well to change those behaviours. and i think it is about if they can afford to do it. no, no, the most effective way in which we can the planet is by making

can save the planet is by making fuel. so that you think twice before using it. yes, we're already doing all we know. but isn't it, you know, just suddenly everybody child cuts are on my suddenly everybody everybody is started noticing much fuel they use as a price. well, i tell you what has through the roof sales log burners david starkey. do you think that's a good idea but that we're going to die or open? i must. i love it. open in my house. the country. i have open fires everywhere and i've got enough water that i can actually. and you know what? i couldn't give a. but again, the coal that goes into those wood burners or into those open fires, you know, colas fuel that cost more . i haven't looked at cost more. i haven't looked at it of late, but cost than the traditional coking coal can still get help of course even comes it's all luxuries for the middle class conscience . but you middle class conscience. but you know what? because nothing works in this country. my recycling get collected last week. i to put it out it just delays its trip to a tip in china so why did that what did instead i got

all my cardboard masses of copper after the christmas selection boxes. amazon christmas cards and i up a little fire in the garden and i loved it. so why can't i use put is a waste in the garden. i used all that i've done with it. i burn it in the half i haven't lost off. that's where i'm going wrong. i'm guessing you are going really badly taking out my gas five. but we all. then what are we doing? we are going back to a new peasant world. yes, we are. and that i'm. that is what is what the greater wants us do. she wants us to retreat to a pre—modern world. greta thunberg you mean what do you say ? no, you mean what do you say? no, no, you've got it wrong. st greta. let's go along with st of attenborough. have the whole thing. he's a silly religious cult. there is a degree of logic, but the way we've done it is as magical as in the middle ages. i think we felt that we could wave a magic wall. we've doneit could wave a magic wall. we've done it quickly and. we haven't given a consideration. isolated

those who cannot afford to do it. so for reasons that just it. so for reasons that i just don't well, don't want do it. well, absolutely. for instance, absolutely. so, for instance, all authorities who all those local authorities who decided charges for decided implement charges for you certain to the tip you to certain items, to the tip , they are now questioning why flytipping has increased . flytipping has increased. absolutely not. tell them that would be a consequence of those policy totally . i couldn't agree policy totally. i couldn't agree more dangerous for agreeing. well no, it's i think you know what i think what we you know what i think what we you know what we're demonstrating we're demonstrating that the have not been enough debates on net zero and would does and what it would and does something public something else no public conversation the cost conversation about the cost benefit analysis in short benefit analysis in the short term medium and the term the medium term and the long is what we're long term that is what we're doing. why you've doing. and that is why you've joined us. you so clever. anyway, up after anyway, coming up after you worried about artificial intelligence am intelligence taking over i am the terminator franchise the terminator film franchise warned well a new warned us about this well a new breakthrough software breakthrough in software is threatening change threatening just change everything frankly you don't want to miss this chat g p t. it is the latest in artificial intelligence . yes, i'll tell you intelligence. yes, i'll tell you all about it . off the news with. tam

all about it. off the news with. tam the latest from the gb newsroom at 1133 and you bill to ensure a minimum level of public service dunng minimum level of public service during strike action is to be introduced by the government today the legislate would require some trade union members to continue working during strikes. it comes amid a wave of industrial action across the pubuc industrial action across the public sector in a dispute pay business secretary grant shapps told gb news the legislation is necessary to the public . we necessary to the public. we don't really ever want to have to use that legislation in those most strikes. the royal of nursing, the nurses agreed a set national level of support. unfortunately we couldn't get there with ambulances . the there with ambulances. the country meaning there was a bit of a postcode lottery as to whether an ambulance would turn up in the case of, you know, something serious like a heart or a stroke. and we can't that so common sense tells us that we need to have minimum safety

levels. meanwhile teachers , in levels. meanwhile teachers, in schools across scotland have begun the of their two day strike after failing to reach an over pay with the scottish government. the current offer would see staff in classrooms receive 5% pay rise, but unions are demanding a 10% increase. primary school teachers will walk out today while staff at secondary schools walk out tomorrow . prince memoir secondary schools walk out tomorrow. prince memoir has finally hit the shelves. fans queued for midnight at some stores to get a copy of the duke of sussex book spare, which contains intimate details of his life. several have already been leaked as some bookstores in spain started selling book last week . tv online spain started selling book last week. tv online and dab+ radio . week. tv online and dab+ radio. this is .

gb news. welcome back to bev turner say on gb news. it's 1137. you've been getting in touch , so let me been getting in touch, so let me know what you think . this is on know what you think. this is on politics, phil said. the people are fed up with the conservatives. they want them out. in truth, they are not too enthused by labour either. and anthony to anthony says well done to the tories to a massive tories on their way to a massive general strike. they win. general strike. they can't win. they masses of they don't have masses of service people to step any more disaster on the way. in disaster on the way. and in relation to how he spoke, spare which today you're which is out today if you're just rolling of bed and just rolling out of bed and davis i be buying davis says i will be buying a copy the book for no other copy of the book for no other reason a doorstep. a lot reason than i a doorstep. a lot of you are feeling like that a doorstop as opposed to a doorstep. right? you doorstep. right? i'll give you that my panel in just that with my panel in just a moment. but first all, i want moment. but first of all, i want to you about something that to tell you about something that is onune to tell you about something that is online storm. is creating an online storm. this of those things this is one of those things where you go, i remember i was when heard turner when i first heard bev turner talking about on gb news, talking about this on gb news, it's a chat. jp chase an artificial intelligence chat bot application to application is able to understand dialogue, human understand human dialogue, human life to life text as if you typing to a friend. so from processing orders online to virtual reality

products to even helping your kids with their homework , i kids with their homework, i actually could probably get on actually i could probably get on board regard board with it in that regard chat you can similarly do it chat gpt you can similarly do it all. many software analysts are even it will even predicting that it will rival in the coming rival google in the coming years, safe is another years, but is it safe is another ai takeover ? find out from the ai takeover? find out from the founder and ceo of future made trace . see follows. good morning trace. see follows. good morning tracy. morning bev. how are you? i'm very well now why is this chat gpt difference to other forms of ai that we've seen before? so chat gpt has been around for a while actually. i was writing about it when. i wrote my book in 2020 and there was an application of it where you could basically prompts to ask it to do something to finish something off. so you could give it an instruction. for example, you know, finish off the board meeting minutes or write to me a three page report on such and such. so that's been around. and it's great because it predicts what the next element in the

series is going to be . and so series is going to be. and so that's how it can complete tasks . you but this is chat gtp so this is slightly different, it's conversational. so in a sense it's trying to impersonate human conversation and we've seen this before with applications from google with their duplex , they google with their duplex, they can listen and speak at the same time. so it allows you to have a conversation. well, this is a similar sort of platform and i don't know if you've used it. i have but you can ask it to write poetry complete to script a friend of mine. he's also a futurist. he actually he asked it to write a poem about meghan and harry and it came back with and harry and it came back with a very interesting, very few sieves, enthused stick poem because one of the essential things about gtp is that it's not great any information, but . not great any information, but. 2021 so this is a large language model and it's using data , it's model and it's using data, it's training itself on text data, but course it can't always keep

up with the most topical data . up with the most topical data. so hang on. i mean, my mind is that noise is my mind exploding here . you know, this is this is here. you know, this is this is really complex stuff. so will we have all experienced this when do a chat bot, you know, when you go onto the onto websites you're trying to get an about something you've mobile phone contracts or whatever it's like that's but it's but more sophisticated am i right. that's but it's but more sophisticated am i right . yes sophisticated am i right. yes like that it's more sophisticated because it's got reinforcement learning all the time the bots are sort of checking on each other so they're trying to compete and make sure that there is accuracy in, the chat that's coming back but also humans are involved in that of course. and importantly this you can give it feedback . this you can give it feedback. so i'm like a chat book that you might be used to using with your banking service, for example , or banking service, for example, or any kind of customer service . any kind of customer service. this at the moment has got upvote and downvote , so it's upvote and downvote, so it's trying to learn from your

response to own statements or creativity or accuracy , and it's creativity or accuracy, and it's using the data that you're using to interact it to improve the performance and the optimisation of this of the solutions it's giving you . so it's much more giving you. so it's much more intuitive , it's much more intuitive, it's much more interactive and it's user human data on, the fly, so, so for instance, if you say to write a about bev turner today on gb news, it's not that it goes and finds a poem that's already it's coming up with something brand new and a original because i think this is where a.i. has moved on, hasn't it is that it can be creative and it can be original . and if i asked it to original. and if i asked it to do ten poems every poem would be different. am i right. yes it should be. i mean, i was thinking, you know you could ask it so for example, to update, update the script for my show to include a piece about gpt in the

tone of bev turner so i'm going tone of bev turner so i'm going to start your theme. i've only got two of them they've gone that's it but this is like doing a poll that's the issue isn't it. this is this is the. that's right. so yes. employees and creative employees . yeah. so creative employees. yeah. so we've moved on from automation to creativity. i mean, it's not true originality because one of the concerns is the banality over time, the homogeneity of the of the creativity that it might be coming back with, you know, is it all too similar? it's all pre—trained on the same sort of data . so it's not going sort of data. so it's not going to be as original something that is completely human and humanly created . but it is is completely human and humanly created. but it is a is completely human and humanly created . but it is a great created. but it is a great halfway house. what it will do is help people who aren't that creative or people got lots and lots of creative tasks to do, to do it, to offload to most of the more routine parts of that so they can more time being really original , they can more time being really original, really they can more time being really original , really creative. do original, really creative. do you know what else is going

replace jobs but it will replace some of our key tasks. do you know what else is going to do? tracy tell me if i'm wrong . it's tracy tell me if i'm wrong. it's going to replace students writing essays because at the moment, if a student plagiarised something off the internet there there is softwares that they will look for amounts of text , will look for amounts of text, see if it matches up somewhere, if this i robot, if gpt is just creating content , my 13 year old creating content, my 13 year old could go please write an essay you know whatever is and then do it shook up . so this is one it shook up. so this is one i mean there are several issues with it where we as humans need sort of . to create this and sort of. to create this and design in the right way. so this is one of the issues, but increasingly, there's talk about applying watermarks to anything , any content that's been created by ai in this manner , created by ai in this manner, you can put a digital watermark on it. so, you know, it's been create it in concert with or a1 andindeed create it in concert with or a1 and indeed i've seen academic

papers that have been co—authored by gpt three and ai . now some of the conferences and some the events are saying actually we know we won't take those conference papers because we don't want to see these these pieces are co—created with pieces that are co—created with al, but is true , is going to be ai, but is true, is going to be a co—author and it's going to change the way we work the future because we're going to be collaborate with tools, collaborate with these tools, not them working for us or us working for them. we're going to be collaborating them. so that's what call cobol what we call cobol working. collaborating with them. and that's the way that tracy follows . am not up for follows. am not up for collaborative working with a robot , but collaborative working with a robot, but you are brilliant and you've helped me understand that. i'd love to you in the studio one day to convince me this is a good idea. thank you so much forjoining me, david starkey. i want to collaborate with you. not a not a robot. that's sweet of you. i mean, i do. stephanie boyce, i can be wrong. wasn't just him. but what i like human. call me i mean is i like human. call me old so and what old fashioned. so do and what you're there is simply

you're hearing there is simply they've a robot to do they've taught a robot to do a pass teach and to parody this is what they are doing because we don't actually understand the of the mind you can't artificial intelligence to replicate it because we don't understand it and can i tell you as a good examiner i would take look at one of those essays that is churned out by this silly bot, and i would give it third class honours , if not the direct fact honours, if not the direct fact i don't think you'd know if it was. i that i would, because sorry. you can always you can see when something i said is a parody or a pastiche when you're simply putting together, when there isn't real substantive thought. we're not just talking about answering questions, you know, about how to do a bank, you know, how, how, how do i work out the interest in my bank account, that sort of thing, which is mechanical. can indeed somebody can construe it a perfectly good set of i think somebody be watching this right

now and come up with a tv programme where they people programme where they test people like to see if you like david starkey to see if you can tell the difference between an essay written a student an essay written by a student and written by a i hope and one written by a i hope write hope you write, write a daily hope you write, but going move on but i'm going to move on stephanie because nhs is stephanie because the nhs is on its no can say we its knees. no one can say we can't get to doctor. people are doing what right now. well, as i it people are purchasing drugs onune. it people are purchasing drugs online . people need to be online. people need to be individuals need to be clear that there is a danger a social side with doing so and what they're saying is because of the long wait to see their gp and because of their particular need that it's easier. i mean i'm absolutely amazed that individuals can do it, but they can go online and, purchase these drugs that they need . i these drugs that they need. i think there's a danger here . think there's a danger here. well, actually, i don't think there's a danger. there is a danger if you don't understand your issues, buying your health issues, buying prescription medicine online without proper medical advice is risky because the bottom line is these are coming. these drugs are coming from unregistered

pharmacies . assume we don't even pharmacies. assume we don't even know what's in them . could be know what's in them. could be diluted. they could be fake . diluted. they could be fake. they could be. you know, you know what dosage perhaps you should be . there's a whole raft should be. there's a whole raft risk associated blind medication onune. risk associated blind medication online . isn't it fascinating, online. isn't it fascinating, though, because this in a way, is a still a story about technology we are all now a google , are we not? you get google, are we not? you get a few you can go online, you can self diagnose in that now. you can go online. i mean, these are saying patients are saying they use the dark web. they use encrypt go and they say it's quicker than seeing my gp. is it all bad to do . i think this all bad to do. i think this specific case is utterly foolish . stephanie was saying you've got no idea what's in that pill. i mean, it's like it is the risk of buying drugs. i again what's it got with but there is a much bigger question correctly. people are now saying we ought to be self—medicate more we should understand our more, we should understand our more, we should understand our more, we should understand what things doctors can and can't do. i

mean, a friend of mine was very, very senior . mean, a friend of mine was very, very senior. one of our major chains of pharmacies, boots . and chains of pharmacies, boots. and when he went into my bathroom , when he went into my bathroom, he said, gosh , you have hydrogen he said, gosh, you have hydrogen peroxide . so in other words, the peroxide. so in other words, the base skin, antiseptic that will do ten times better if you've got a pimple spot or a little cut than almost anything else, people simply have not been taught to do this. we need much more sense of taking charge of our own health, of using simple remedies, because most mostly most of us are in very good health. again, yeah, goes back to my point about the nhs being more proactive rather than reactive. we need to be teaching people, we need to be teaching people, we need to be teaching people self—reliance. but also you there's been a problem you see there's been a problem because the nhs, because the because of the nhs, because the british association , british medical association, there's been excessive defensive bias in america is much to buy a range of proper drugs in pharmacies , which are exactly

pharmacies, which are exactly the kind of thing you , you know, the kind of thing you, you know, for diarrhoea, for stomach upsets, this kind of thing basic non—life threatening . whereas non—life threatening. whereas where's what we've done is to say you must get this stuff from a doctor and it must be free. yeah anyway. right moving on. we obviously people are finding things very expensive. we've got huge inflation. so do you think are selling at a record all time high? rolls royce cars. that's right. in 2022, rolls royce has sold 6000 cars bespoke cost, an average of sold 6000 cars bespoke cost, an average 0 f £440,000 each. and average of £440,000 each. and sales are up eight cent from 2021. it's that warm. the cockles of your heart. stephanie boyce. well, i mean, envy comes mind, but you know , the thing mind, but you know, the thing is, is that , you know, 8% of all is, is that, you know, 8% of all the ugly well very honest w that like say on this channel because the whole point is just that there are individuals there's a reason why the sales are up. it's because people, us and you

, somebody spoke the other day. i somebody on tv that of i heard somebody on tv that of living crisis will hold on a moment it only affects some people not all people some people not all people some people have done really well in the last couple of years . some the last couple of years. some people have just creamed it out of the pandemic, haven't they? just just money off the top in all sorts of ways, course, because that's what happens in a free market economy . and again, free market economy. and again, the consequences of one of the solutions to it was kate bingham , who is a free market economist as. well, as an expert in in pharmaceuticals. and if it hadnt pharmaceuticals. and if it hadn't been for exactly what she did, we wouldn't have had you defending you people profiting out of a time of crisis. defending you people profiting out of a time of crisis . of out of a time of crisis. of course, because how else do you suppose wars have ever been fought? so my feeling is the crisis wasn't justified in the first place. that's that's where if we were in a genuine crisis. i know we would not. so let's not path. i think that's not go that path. i think that's that's entirely other conversation. but again also the great bulk of these cars are sold abroad. the great bulk of

these are sold in the middle east. and if you actually look at where they go, these are countries of course, with mostly great disparities of wealth and we are used to but equally, of course , britain, like france, course, britain, like france, caters to a luxury market. what you what you see that as as you have mass market germany is a particular example of that britain and france and italy tend to look because they're traditional because they have a sort of prestige in our case, aristocratic yeah the very name role , what people are buying role, what people are buying isn't really a car you are buying by volume near not to empty you they're buying german engineering rock , tin british engineering rock, tin british history and tradition which is why the german countries bought lot. why why they bought bentley why i think they bought aston martin has some people who might now be able to afford them right we got it. so labour and peace. we hear the conservatives being labour drive . i'm going

labour mp peace drive. i'm going to with david, stop . we to stay with me. david, stop. we hear of the time that hear a lot of the time that about conservatives being about the conservatives being sort and mired mired in sort of and mired and mired in kind corruption the last kind of corruption the last couple of years. well, labour are from it as well. are not immune from it as well. there was a mystery company it might be completely above board. we not there are we just do not know. there are questions need answering. questions that need answering. a mystery has given mystery company has has given £345,000 to labour . it is a £345,000 to labour. it is a secretive firm we don't know anything about. it's called mp m. it was the third biggest donor to employees of the trade unions unite and gmb . it's got unions unite and gmb. it's got no staff according to its recent filings it's registered at an office building at the end of a residential in hertfordshire, a vet cooper received 180 grand barnsley mp dan jun damaged got a hundred grand and wes streeting gifted just over 60 k do we need more transparency in who's giving employees money? well, absolutely. we need know and there is an online tool that can tell you what mp has received, what donations and from whom. but in respect of this company , it's fair to say

this company, it's fair to say we do know who it is because the paper has names, who the individual is a businessman and a long outstanding labour supporter who has regularly donated . the issue is since the donated. the issue is since the last general election in 2019, our mp have received over £183 million in donations , gifts and million in donations, gifts and so forth and other payments. there is . i so forth and other payments. there is. i think for so forth and other payments. there is . i think for most of there is. i think for most of us, most of would want to know why. what is that money being used for? why is it being accepted? what they doing with it? and to be clear, this company is the third largest donor to the labour party behind , the unions. so that throws up a whole raft of other issues from anti strike in law . but i from anti strike in law. but i guess the point is around transparency points. absolutely are antiquated, obscure rules that lack transparency and we need to know why money is being used to fund or what role it plays in with our public servants. go on, david, what do

you think. i'm rather in favour it i, i, i which which bit the law. all of it. i mean, i think that what would be the ultimate horror is state funded and that's alternative. i think that the very fact that this story has been exposed the very fact that somebody for heaven's sake , all i would doubt is this man's why is he throwing money at yvette cooper? a who has failed and can to his political career to do at all. i mean but that's his job. it is his money. yes. and i think the point is, david, not about the fact that where it gets used in private money to fund public , it's about money to fund public, it's about the it is who it is and what buying with that money that i guess that's the question what but they're in opposition so all you're doing you're funding her office, you're funding campaigns, whatever these things are expensive and if there wasn't some silly multimillionaire or some stupid trade union or some other

company throwing money at the neighbours, we'd have to dig yet . okay. this past thank. no, thank you, david wright, we've been asking you this morning with prince harry's book now on the shelves , are you going to the shelves, are you going to buy over 5000 of voted buy it? over 5000 of you voted and around 96% of you say that you will not be buying it. not a huge surprise there . anyway, we huge surprise there. anyway, we have come to the end of the show .thank have come to the end of the show . thank you so much to i, . thank you so much to 1, stephanie boyce and david starkey nearly forgot who you are for a minute. then i'm stephen dixon is up next. how could possibly i am bev turner. i will see you tomorrow morning . have a great day. hello. alex deakin here with your latest weather . it's not as cold deakin here with your latest weather. it's not as cold out there , but it's not a pleasant there, but it's not a pleasant day dull and wet in many areas that rain quite heavy in some spots . and we do have a number spots. and we do have a number of office yellow in place, of met office yellow in place, low pressure is responsible. these weather draped these weather fronts draped across the country, plenty of isomers on the chart as well it isomers on the chart as well it is blustery. it is cloudy it is damp and for some rain

especially heavy over of scotland north—east and at times parts of wales say we do have a number of met office yellow rainfall warnings in place, but it's now in the scottish mountains that's not lasting too. as the warmer air pushes here, easing somewhat here, the rain easing somewhat over central and eastern , but over central and eastern, but staying quite grey , damp, staying quite grey, damp, staying quite grey, damp, staying blustery, but is mild temperatures in double digits into the teens in some spots a windy evening with further rain wales. it gets very windy overnight northern scotland we have another met office yellow warning in place here . the warning in place here. the strength of the wind, rain crosses england. wales, something bit drier. then arrive through the night with clearer spells. it doesn't tend to chilly though because of strength of the wind that will actually help to keep temperatures degrees temperatures several degrees above most of us. above freezing for most of us. and bring some sunshine first thing on wednesday morning. then the will get going . the showers will get going. plenty of showers in the west throughout morning. throughout the morning. much of the will a dry morning the east will have a dry morning suspect, but the showers will move as we go through move in here as we go through the . showers blown

the day. heavy showers blown along by a stiff and gusty winds . some snow again over the scottish mountains. temperature wise down. so back closer to feeling, a lot colder because of the strength of the wind . the strength of the wind. certainly when the heavy showers come along of which there will still be plenty through tomorrow evening , may turn drier for evening, may turn drier for a time . then look at this. another time. then look at this. another area of rain coming in potentially causing further issues because the ground is so wet at the moment, that'll bring a spell of right across the country on thursday. blustery on friday, but perhaps a little dner friday, but perhaps a little drier turning a bit colder into weekend .

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