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channel hundreds of migrant hotels are filling up all over the country now. it's beginning to affect big wig tories, including cabinet ministers. we'll be going live to a village in northamptonshire whose population may be about to double. we'll discuss the government's new proposed trade union laws . government's new proposed trade union laws. do government's new proposed trade union laws . do they make sense union laws. do they make sense for vital public services to continue or are they infringement of workers rights.7 we'll talk about a cricket club that's being asked to close down
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because neighbours don't like balls thwacking against their fences . and jason cundy, former fences. and jason cundy, former footballer and now successful broadcaster, will join me on talking points. before we get to that, let's have the news headunes that, let's have the news headlines with polly middle east . ni headlines with polly middle east. ni evening , you. our top story this evening, you. our top story this hour, evening, you. our top story this hour , unions have condemned a hour, unions have condemned a newly proposed law that will enforce minimum levels of service for public sector workers during strikes . and the workers during strikes. and the government's confident it will be passed this year. the bill would apply to health, education, transport and border security services . under the new security services. under the new law, unions could be sued and staff could be sacked . if staff could be sacked. if adequate cover isn't provided, the leader of the rmt, though, has called it an attack on human rights. and the tuc says it's going to hold a natural, a national, protect the right to strike day on the 1st of february. the business secretary, grant shapps, told
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parliament the measures would protect the public to deny and to vote against legislation that bnngsin to vote against legislation that brings in minimum safety levels to help our constituents. it's to help our constituents. it's to attack their security and, their welfare. yeah well, labour has vowed to repeal the legislation if it wins the next general election. deputy leader angela rayner says the nhs was failing well before the strikes . is my constituents who waited over an hour for an ambulance who died waiting for an ambulance and that was not on the strike side. that is because of the disastrous chaos we have in the system under this conservative government . primary conservative government. primary school teachers across scotland went on strike today and secondary school teachers are due to walk out tomorrow after failing to reach a pay agreement with the scottish government . with the scottish government. unions are demanding a 10% pay rise, but the scottish government has offered 5. scotland education secretary says she'll leave no stone
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unturned to find a quick resolution . the family of a resolution. the family of a british man who's gone missing in ukraine, they're very worried and concerned about his health as well as his whereabouts. ukrainian police say chris parry, who's aged 48, and another brit, andrew bagshaw, who's 28, a voluntary workers . who's 28, a voluntary workers. it's understood they left the city of kramatorsk for the town of solider on friday morning and were reported on saturday evening, missing . the region is evening, missing. the region is currently under intense fighting between kyiv and moscow's forces . and as you've been hearing throughout the day here on gb news prince harry's memoir has become the fastest selling non—fiction book ever. become the fastest selling non—fiction book ever . with non—fiction book ever. with 400,000 copies sold on launch day alone. but gb news has been uncovering some inconsistencies in the book, where the duke of sussex, for example, writes . he sussex, for example, writes. he heard about the death of his great grandmother , the queen great grandmother, the queen mother, a phone whilst mother, in a phone call whilst he says he was at eton. but
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photographic evidence shows the prince skiing prince returning from a skiing trip his trip to switzerland with his father brother the time. father brother at the time. representatives of the duke have been contacted comment , but been contacted for comment, but has declined to so . has so far declined to do so. that's all you up to date on tv, onune that's all you up to date on tv, online and dab+ radio with gb news. back to far—right . news. now back to far—right. good evening. this program is taught, i would guess more than any other media program, but what's been going on in the engush what's been going on in the english channel? one of the reasons is much of mainstream media really want to media really didn't want to cover the story. was all too cover the story. it was all too awkward. but i sometimes awkward. but i do sometimes think we talk enough about think we don't talk enough about the tens of thousands the impact of tens of thousands of young single males coming into the country . at last count, into the country. at last count, for 120 hotels around the country have been filled up with migrants. the waiting list of those whose asylum claims have not yet been processed is a
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staggering one. and 40,000. whilst the weather may have been very windy so far this year, some people estimate that up to 90,000 people could cross the engush 90,000 people could cross the english channel this year unless the government actually does something . well, of course. something. well, of course. richie sunak in his one big speech since he's become prime minister, has said , pledge five, minister, has said, pledge five, stop the boats . he will stop the stop the boats. he will stop the boats. but frankly, we've been heanng boats. but frankly, we've been hearing this from conservative leaders, from home secretaries , leaders, from home secretaries, year after year after year with no difference other, that it's simply just gets worse . well, simply just gets worse. well, today we're going to look at a couple of case studies. one which looks to me, although the villages in northampton are about to lose, another in yorkshire, weather appears to have been a bit of a reprieve. but what does that mean for the rest of the country? my simple question to you at home is that at what point do we simply say enough ? let me know what you enough? let me know what you think. farage at gb news. uk. well, let's go straight to rural
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northamptonshire . i want to say northamptonshire. i want to say rural. i mean it is rural britain is a village of 500 residents, a hotel in question is a 17th century manor. our reporter paul hawkins is there on the ground . paul, this is on the ground. paul, this is chris heaton—harris. his constituency . what's the story ? constituency. what's the story? so the story is nigel, constituency. what's the story? so the story is nigel , that we so the story is nigel, that we are just outside highgate house manor hotel was it was a couple of years ago. the house has been closed for a couple of years because the family run owners couldn't make it survive as a business through covid they business through covid now they offloaded company offloaded it to another company and as we understand it, is the local creighton parish council understanding and the home office are planning to put 400 asylum seekers, 400 migrants in this 87 on suite, bedroom , this 87 on suite, bedroom, former hotel, possibly
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this 87 on suite, bedroom, former hotel , possibly towards former hotel, possibly towards the end of this month. now, this came to the attention of the of the local parish council in in crete and some nine miles north of norfolk . last month . they've of norfolk. last month. they've been having meetings at the local village hall. this one plans to start in round about half an hour's time, where members of the public will be able to come and voice their concerns. but essentially what we're is that the we're saying is that the villagers here feel that that the village is out. there's only 500 people there. there's no pubs. there's one village shop. it's simply unsuitable for that. that number of meagre ends to be house so close to it simply doesn't have the infrastructure to deal with it. you mentioned chris heaton—harris is a member of rishi sunak's cabinet. he's the local mp. he's been called it unsuitable as well and he's been holding a consultation on his website and know from speaking to the chair of the pansh speaking to the chair of the parish council earlier today that they've had at least 350 response his which have been funnelled from their website to
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the home office the home office a considering those responses and they'll publish they'll write back to the parish council possibly next week and west northamptonshire council as well have called it significant concern . the plan would place concern. the plan would place services unreasonable and unsustainable pressure . this is unsustainable pressure. this is not acceptable just to give you to give you an idea of what the home office is saying as well said it doesn't comment on operational arrangements for individual used for asylum individual sites used for asylum accommodation. it says engage accommodation. it says we engage local authorities as early as possible whenever sites are used for asylum, accommodation and work arrangements are work to ensure arrangements are safe for residents and, safe for hostel residents and, local people. but you've covered this many times, nigel, on your show, you know there's more people there apply for asylum. we know that if you think of it like pipeline like a pipeline asylum applications taking lot applications are taking lot longer to the average longer to progress the average processing time now 15 months and i know from having spoken to some seekers myself some asylum seekers myself they've the they've been waiting in the country so people country for years so more people are have their asylum are waiting to have their asylum processed is
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processed and simply there is not sufficient accommodation house them while their applications are being processed. and so that's why we're seeing so many hotels being requisitioned by the home office and with office to try and deal with backlog . paul hawkins mm, great. backlog. paul hawkins mm, great. and thank you very much. we'll come back to you when that pubuc come back to you when that public meeting in the village hall. you . what? it's hall. thank you. what? it's a beautiful hotel. it's a 17th century manor. it boasts a swimming pool, a gymnasium , swimming pool, a gymnasium, games, rooms, flat screen tvs and a very good restaurant, i'm told. so it's not too bad really, is it? you've hopped on a boat. you live in albion here and you spend a few weeks in that hotel before going off to join drugs gang or something join a drugs gang or something like i'm surprised. like that. i'm not surprised. the resident are very, the local resident are very, very angry, but here is the point . in the very angry, but here is the point. in the past, very angry, but here is the point. in the past , three big point. in the past, three big companies have been assigned by the home office to organise accommodation and they booked nine months, a year, two years, whatever it may be, in hotels, in this case, the hotel is actually being purchased and a
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dealin actually being purchased and a deal in this case with serco . so deal in this case with serco. so it looks like this be a permanent site for those that enter country through a variety of means and claim asylum and that perhaps makes the villages there even more worried. now similarly, there was a big pubuc similarly, there was a big public meeting took place last friday up in east yorkshire in a place called cottingham and the there was that a couple halls of residence at hull university were on the market to be sold once. were on the market to be sold once . as i say, with this new once. as i say, with this new development they would have become permanent sites. there was a big public meeting i don't know what the atmosphere was , know what the atmosphere was, but louise inkster was there . but louise inkster was there. we've spoken to her before, a care worker and somebody who was there at that public. louise, what the atmosphere like last friday evening in cottingham . it friday evening in cottingham. it was it amazing to be quite honest with you how so many members of the community you know , had made the effort to
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know, had made the effort to join and unite against all of it. there was all there was so much passion in that and so many strong views and opinions and it was great. it was a really good panel. was great. it was a really good panel . now, it would seem , panel. now, it would seem, louise, that there is a reprieve , that there's been a change, that the university are not not now going to sell these holes of residence. so do you view this as a victory for your local community, say, or really is all you doing passing the problems on to another neighbour up ? i on to another neighbour up? i mean, obviously we do want to take this as a victory after you know, everything that everybody's been through these past few years, you know, especially with something to celebrate at last. but there is obviously still the problem that why are they going to if not to the lawns in cottingham no. absolutely will louise . thank
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absolutely will louise. thank you very much indeed. once again for joining me on the program . forjoining me on the program. now the local member of parliament for cottingham is , parliament for cottingham is, david davis, mp who joins me now. and david, put out a message earlier saying this good news and you basically said that you and the other mp said lobbied and that the home office have or it's either the home office or the university have listened . let's be clear. it's listened. let's be clear. it's not the home office. it's the university university is the university. very clearly you're the new vice chancellor it arrives got financial as all institutions have. he's got this six or institutions have. he's got this six 0 r £7 million asset on his six or £7 million asset on his doorstep. he goes to sell it effectively to the home, always represented. and we said to him, you know, what about local community? and to be fair to him, he took it on and he made the decision. he actually made decision a little while ago. but we please that he we said please publicise that he did . okay. so is good news did. okay. so that is good news for you as a sitting mp. that's good news because you think that the people are coffee most
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the people are coffee are most important and louise clearly was very pleased and she said, you know, we need a of know, we all need a bit of good news. i with rest. well, news. i agree with rest. well, i agree with rob that . but you agree with rob that. but you see, is that the inner see, the thing is that the inner city hotels are all full. yeah. so they're now seeking rural market town like asians sir graham brady hale in his constituency about to get a hotel. chris heaton—harris tonight i'm not sure was anything he or the local parish council can do about the private sale of a building. frankly, nothing they can do . so what nothing they can do. so what we're now seeing is direct pressure coming on some very senior figures within . the senior figures within. the conservative party , you know, conservative party, you know, i've watched this . we all have i've watched this. we all have for the last 12 years conserved of leaders and home secretaries have said we're going to stop illegal immigration. you come here illegally. cameron said , here illegally. cameron said, bofis here illegally. cameron said, boris said they all said, you you'll be sent away, but it neven you'll be sent away, but it never, ever happens. we used to deport a lot of illegals going back 20 years and hardly any get deporting handfuls, get deported
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these days. your government was elected to take back control of our borders. there's a huge price to pay for this as there is and i reckon it's in the top four issues that will decide whether or not conservative governments return time. it's to three or four. i don't know. it depends on the day almost. and of course , these aren't of course, these aren't solutions. these are last two plus. i mean, they're permanent for the community, but they're not a solution to the problem . not a solution to the problem. because if you've got well let's put your 90000 to 1 side just this year, 45,000, even if that goes on and they aren't resolved, you're ending with a never ending demand for places that are not there . and what's that are not there. and what's more , by the way, i mean, we had more, by the way, i mean, we had smaller version of this thing called whitehall in my constituency where they're coming in, the first hundreds arrived in the first week. 30 disappeared. yeah, they were all albanians. the locals tell i can't prove it, but looks like
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they're all driven. and in a fleet of cars, presumably, as you , the albanian gangs that you, the albanian gangs that brought them over, are exacting a price, whatever that might be. work our whatever it is they're doing. so, you know, there's got to be a stop. this is why before christmas a 50 of us wrote to rishi saying, look, there's one thing you can do fast . i mean, thing you can do fast. i mean, this is the problem. you need a fast. this is the problem. you need a fast . one this is the problem. you need a fast. one thing you can do fast is say albania, safe country. it's got fewer references . it's it's got fewer references. it's the european court of human that we have. like i should be at i should be at a claim asylum in toronto particular which get to be but the but the simple truth is you've got to do something fast and actually if we if we said as sweden has that you know , albania is a safe country , , albania is a safe country, then yes, as an zero zero applications in germany and in france and yet 12 or 14,000 thus far. well, it was just down the road here to see the national crime agency to talk about the albanians . right. the albanian
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albanians. right. the albanian guy? yeah and they said to me that wonderful phrase. they said, they're the most efficient criminals in the world. i've never heard the word a fascist , never heard the word a fascist, efficient criminals. efficient use of criminals. i mean, they said when they say they're going to do something, they're going to do something, they do it and they spot market opportunities . that's what opportunities. that's what this is them. it's a cruel, is for them. it's a cruel, sadistic almost market opportunity. they looked at the approval rates for asylum . so as approval rates for asylum. so as you say so closely, you should right here, 55 once you've absconded. once you've absconded, you go. you you go. and you're not going to be found . and even if you are, you will get a chance. stay. david, all this, honestly, is really silly. not going to do anything to make a difference. well, i think he is. he is. i mean, is. i think he is. i mean, i think he is. he's he seized of the issue. talk to him about it in terms of to face not in a grand meeting just him and me and he seized of the issue he understand what i've been arguing when you say albanian issue that don't solve it all that's half a bit start so a huge start imagine . i mean we've
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huge start imagine. i mean we've made a big deal about rwanda . made a big deal about rwanda. rwanda, works , will be rwanda, if it works, will be 300, 500 people this year , 3000. 300, 500 people this year, 3000. if we stop the albanian traffic is 12,000 straight away. and every year thereafter and then that allows you to get on top of the rest. now the others, you've got a problem . the problem with got a problem. the problem with the others, some of them, let's say an afghan worked for the british government, has got a real moral point and we get that and we get and so we have to deal with. but there are lots of others don't need to others who that we don't need to give approve to and give that that approve to and that's more hard that's a that's the more hard that's a difficult the first bit the difficult bit. the first bit the albanians we can do very very deadly all while we have the british judges that we have we're signatories to the ecj job. we're not going solve this. okay, you say that, but okay, well, you say that, but look, social look, sweden, sweden social democratic country held held up as a state as the model modern civilisation and they've got zero. how did they get zero. they rewrote their laws not now . two years ago. two years they
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saw this coming two years ago and they rewrote the laws to say if you define a safe country, isn't just albania, by the way, isn't just albania, by the way, is mongolia. serbia all safe countries. you get sent straight back, no question. well i think the battle against the british judges would become the real issue that swedes saw it coming and stopped it with law. that's what we did it. we saw it coming here on news. we've been here on gb news. we've been about since the we about it ever since the day we launched david. david, thank you for well done for forjoining me. well done for your constituents the your constituents. but the problem like win three problem is rather like win three quarters ball. it moves on quarters rugby ball. it moves on to else in a moment, to somebody else in a moment, we're going to talk about grant shapps, his proposals for shapps, his new proposals for trade union laws. that would mean even on strike days, you could still perhaps get an ambulance . is he right? could still perhaps get an ambulance. is he right? is could still perhaps get an ambulance . is he right? is that ambulance. is he right? is that ambulance. is he right? is that a sensible thing to do? is he honounng a sensible thing to do? is he honouring a 2019 manifesto commitment or is it a terrible abuse of workers rights? all of that in a couple of minutes .
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what does now, even 17th century manners fill up with young men who've just crossed the english channel? what are we going to say ? enough. some of your say? enough. some of your responses says almost a decade ago , charles says, we never . but ago, charles says, we never. but in the says , where are they all in the says, where are they all going to go to get processed? aren't we already overpopulated 7 aren't we already overpopulated ? another view, it says if they haven't listened to us so far , haven't listened to us so far, they never will. and sue says menacingly at the next election, we have to punish at the ballot box and you know, david davis was quite about that. this is one of the top three or four issues that will decide whether the conservatives can win the next election. i love these optimism that somehow rishi sunakis optimism that somehow rishi sunak is going to do something to sort this. i don't believe it for a minute now. different issue in 2019. manifesto the one
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on which they got the 80 seat majority. the conservatives that when it came to vital public services and strikes they would put through legislation to give us a minimum level of service and to do so in order to protect the public . shapps was up this the public. shapps was up this morning before the house of commons proposing this legislation but to and to vote against legislation that brings in minimum safety levels to help our constituent base is to attack their security and their welfare . and okay that was welfare. and okay that was shapps putting out a case. so what do we think is this the right thing to is it right that we make sure that there is some level of ambulance service of a&e service or whatever it may be with no fire brigade , be with no fire brigade, whatever else it may be is the right thing to do or is it an outrage as attack on the rights of the individual to withhold their labour? i have to say
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there are not many things this government puts forward that i think are right, but i think this does make sense me now. this does make sense to me now. of course there are all sorts of definitions as to what that minimum level of service would be and would people who rejected it really get sacks and not be able to claim unfair dismissal? we're getting into legal arguments i can deal with, arguments that i can deal with, but i am joined by an employment lawyer who not only deals with these things but has read the legislation . and so it's quite legislation. and so it's quite clear that the government are trying to honour a manifesto commitment which . i do applaud commitment which. i do applaud and we could argue the rights and we could argue the rights and wrongs of this having seen what shapps has put down today before the commons , what is your before the commons, what is your response? my view is that this is the government pushed into a last resort scenario and i believe that this particular at least stems from the fact before christmas the unions representing ambulance drivers refused to agree minimum levels of service in advance if the
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ambulance drivers went on strike. and so this is a an obvious reaction to that but in putting this bill forward, grant shappsis putting this bill forward, grant shapps is also included. lots of other sectors provide public services such . transport and the services such. transport and the nhs and the fire service. so it's quite a broad and we will need tightly worded regulations to make sure that these powers can't be abused by employers. so on the one hand, he's showing the country tough because we're in the grip of, you know, many, many similar tiniest strikes. but in reality , you know, this but in reality, you know, this consultation process, this attempt define what a minimum level service is and to pass all this into law, it's going to take a couple of years, isn't it? well, i think that this is an example of something that will much brought will be very much brought forward just as the debate on being able bring in agency workers to cover striking workers to cover striking workers earlier . this last year workers earlier. this last year . so i think i believe it will be debated next week and then it
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will pass to the house of lords. it may go back with changes or rejections , who knows? but rejections, who knows? but i think this is one of the acts that will be sped up, given the severity of this situation. okay. but we have to have that consultation. yes do we still have have definition ? have to have that definition? yeah. now, you know, just yeah. now, is it, you know, just trying evenhanded about trying to be evenhanded about the i by the way, i think the need i by the way, i think this is the legislation and i remember the last time a conservative government put through radical trade union reform the mid 1980s. it did make this country a place foreign investors wanted to come, so i think there are come, too. so i think there are times this the right times when this is the right thing do . but would it take thing to do. but would it take away or it. let me ask you away or could it. let me ask you that. take away the basic that. could take away the basic rights in a free society of workers to withhold their laboun workers to withhold their labour. well, in one sense, it is quite. and that's what the unions have been saying today in response to these to this news, because if you follow the rules on balloting and you get to the point where you've got lawful strike action , the employer in strike action, the employer in these sectors can pretty much
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these sectors can pretty much the last minute say you're not going to leave with enough to provide a service so i'm going to put the brakes on that. so that sense it does fundamentally undermine rights of workers to go on strike in those sectors. and what about the right of people? if they had a heart attack an ambulance? attack to get an ambulance? well, the well, that's the that's the other side, the coin, isn't it? and think that there is a lot and i think that there is a lot there's going be a lot of there's going to be a lot of pubuc there's going to be a lot of public support this bill public support for this bill because on public because of the impacts on public services. we've heard horror services. and we've heard horror stories, not stories, people not being waiting hours and hours for ambulances and waiting in hospitals in the corridors. mind you, the truth is they were doing that before any strikes were happening, and i'm sure they were. but i think it's to they were. but i think it's to the fore now because the sides have so polarised before have been so polarised before christmas in pay negotiations, they've reached the stalemate and the government's now taking these drastic steps to try and pick that. i think given that a lot of employment law and legislation when we were members of union of the european union was effectively from . is this effectively coming from. is this a legislation that
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a piece of legislation that would have been much harder to propose if we were still eu members ? don't it would members? i don't think it would necessarily because there are lots of countries in, the eu, that have a similar law and it's important to note this is not a general veto by the employer to tie it to avoid people going on strike. it's very much used in specific circumstances to provide minimum levels of service. so that doesn't mean that all workers will be stopped from going on strike. that type of principle operates in several countries in europe already , for countries in europe already, for example, germany, france, italy , spain. okay it's not uncommon. not uncommon, no . look, we're not uncommon, no. look, we're going to be very, very interesting about it. come and tell us at some point what this minimum of service minimum level of service actually is, because it seems to me that much of this will hinge around that . and in particular, around that. and in particular, how this game of parliamentary ping how this game of parliamentary ping pong could potentially. i think so on for. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. in a moment, we'll talk about the cricket club . yes, the cricket
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there's something about people that leave big cities. they often sell properties are worth quite a lot of money and move to the countryside, or they move to the countryside, or they move to the seaside, but they tend to take their big metropolitan values with them. you know, they move next to pubs and then complain that people are making noise . they move to the seaside noise. they move to the seaside port and complain that at times it smells of fish or there are people get up at 3:00 in the morning and start their boat engines, complain about the local , the local hand, whatever local, the local hand, whatever it may be, generally come it may be, they generally come from london, not always . well, from london, not always. well, extraordinary story . i mean, extraordinary story. i mean, village cricket is absolutely
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part of our national life, and particularly at a time when our cricket team is enjoying success. but i don't think i've ever seen in my lifetime under the brave , wonderful, gallant the brave, wonderful, gallant ben stokes as captain. and yet, sports and social club endorse it, which has within it coleshill cricket club has been told by the owners of the ground that this season it will not be able to play cricket because a neighbour has objected. yes, an outside that who was coming into the club bought a house. objects to the fact that cricket balls thwack against her fence and that once you know a ball went up and damaged one of the roof tiles . i would suggest that if tiles. i would suggest that if you move to a small village indoor sit next to a sports ground you should expect people on lazy sunday afternoons to be out there playing village cricket . the club has set up a cricket. the club has set up a petition . 10,000 people had petition. 10,000 people had
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signed that petition overnight . signed that petition overnight. i'm going to sign that petition and i will try and get somebody from . coal hill, sports and from. coal hill, sports and social club on this programme tomorrow . we have to keep our tomorrow. we have to keep our cultural communities going and not have outsiders coming in and changing a place where cricket has been played ever since the end of the first world war. the what the fringe moment now you know we were all told you've got to save the planet. you've got to save the planet. you've got to get an electric car. and indeed this government, you know, outlawing the sale of diesel and petrol cars from 2035. i never thought it would happen, but try this for size. one of the biggest advantages of going electric is it was all so much cheaper. i emphasise it was all so much cheaper until now . all so much cheaper until now. if you are on a long journey in this country right now, you need to stop on the motorway at one of the fast charges . i say stop
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of the fast charges. i say stop at one of the fast charges. there may well be quite a long queue given how busy our roads are to even find a charger that's working or one that's free. but when you do, you know you'll spend time there and get the charge in your car. but it is now going to cost you driving an electric car ? an an electric car? an approximation of 20 per mile in terms of what you'll pay for that electricity charge . as that electricity charge. as opposed to 17 pay per mile . if opposed to 17 pay per mile. if you're driving an unleaded petrol car, it is now more expensive to an electric car on a long journey than it is to use unleaded and not much different to what it be. if you were filling up with diesel. all of the so—called advantages of going with electric cars are disappearing before the revolution. even really begins to take off. and here in london , the situation is absurd , , the situation is absurd, slightly farcical . the very few slightly farcical. the very few
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charging points that we have very often you'll a commercial van that is on one of those points and all while they plugged into the system , they're plugged into the system, they're not liable to pay parking fees. and so that's the great racket thatis and so that's the great racket that is going on in london. if we're going to have an electric car revolution , let me tell you car revolution, let me tell you something. we've got a lot further go. not to mention. where on earth are we going to ? where on earth are we going to? find all of the electricity on days when the wind doesn't blow . next, it's time for talking points. we haven't gone back to the village in northamptonshire . the meetings on we cannot get into that connection. we will report back on later programs on gb news tonight as to how that meeting has gone. but at the moment it's talking. and i'll be joined by former professional footballer broadcast cancer survivor jason conley. all of that in a couple of minutes .
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the gb news is now open. it is time for pints. i'm joined by jason. jason, welcome, nigel . jason. jason, welcome, nigel. happy new year to you. invited me not one bit now jason the young jason and football fan and football fanatic. yeah and it was blue is the colour. football fanatic. yeah and it was blue is the colour . football was blue is the colour. football is the game where all together in chelsea as it was chelsea the way for you it was my dad took me for my seventh birthday in back in early. early 1976 at 77 to stamford bridge and just lit my for chelsea and i'm lucky enough to still be working there now so yes , chelsea was always now so yes, chelsea was always my club and it comes down to my andifs my club and it comes down to my and it's when the father, the son relationships that that never ever dies if you follow your football club forever. yeah we had ken bates the program
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actually very well you can see from the a lot of good for you so you're a young lad you're seven you know you've got the magic of stamford bridge . you magic of stamford bridge. you become a junior player at the club and it's kind of there must be huge numbers of young lads. i know girls of course, you know, and they've the team they support and their biggest dream in life really to play for that team. indeed. and you've actually managed to do it. yeah. there aren't many and every footballer that grows up supports the club. i was lucky enough to play for the club that i supported and loved and still work for now. i've a love affair with chelsea since since i could walk and i'm still lucky enough to work for chelsea tv now. so yes, one of those things yes, it's one of those things that you don't think about as a young boy. you just know you follow your dream, you follow your your club and i feel privileged to still be involved with the club that i loved. and
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i was so lucky play and to work for that. yes, it's going on, going out onto the pitch for your first full game. that must've a bit special. it was. i remember at sunderland home. i was at fault for the first goal. i remember that we were we were on my debut. it was away playing against qpr, you know, all the, all those years that i watched chelsea from , the terraces in chelsea from, the terraces in the shed as a, as a young boy and then getting a schoolboy an apprenticeship and then pro apprenticeship and then a pro come to go and play for the club and lots of, of hard work together. oh absolutely. i mean, you dont together. oh absolutely. i mean, you don't don't you know, you don't you don't get level without and get to that level without and hard work and doing well . it was hard work and doing well. it was easy to point because it was something i loved . but there are something i loved. but there are points in your career where you do have to sacrifice, you know, coming out and having to be disciplined and looking after yourself and yeah. i mean , there yourself and yeah. i mean, there were privileged so lucky. but at the same time , every boy wants the same time, every boy wants that. and i was the less than 1% that. and i was the less than 1% that got there. yeah no,
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absolutely. and you went on in later years if i a lot of games for ipswich and in the end your career is ended by injury which of course is the bane of all sports. yeah. is that the big fear professional sports. it is. and you know what . no, i went to and you know what. no, i went to spurs. i hardly played spurs for injuries. there for five injuries. i was there for five years at the back injury. i broke my ankle and operation. i'm wearing my knee and eventually to leave, spurs got further my career. i went to ipswich. george burley really did save my career in some way and i spent two and a half happy is at ipswich so yes injuries is the one thing that every professional sportsman not just football sports fear is. and unfortunately for me i had my unfair share and you know even after and football in during football you know i suffered illness as well . so it just felt illness as well. so it just felt a little bit like what what a lucky stick did i hit the way down. but well, yeah, it's a funny one that jason isn't it? whether you have good luck or
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bad luck life, because bad things happen us in life. things can happen to us in life. but and i, by sitting there but you and i, by sitting there having chat, a drink and, we having a chat, a drink and, we have one thing in common, correct that you at the time you were at discover with a medical problem. and i want you to that with us. so i'm sitting at home watching eastenders of all things , and it takes also and things, and it takes also and i have to put my hands to my shorts . i feel like every have to put my hands to my shorts. i feel like every man , shorts. i feel like every man, everybody knows what i'm talking about , it everybody knows what i'm talking about, it happens and i'm like, what is that? and one ball was heavier and larger than the other. and i thought , this other. and i thought, this doesn't feel right. so the physio the next day and i saw the doctor on the saturday and he said to me , you can't play. he said to me, you can't play. and my i'm playing, i'm in he said to me, you can't play. and my i'm playing , i'm in the and my i'm playing, i'm in the team. this is , you know, now, team. this is, you know, now, now for kick off, i'm playing. he said, we've got to get you in for a scan and i'm right. forget that i'm playing. all right. so we're not playing and they try to get for scan after the game the earliest they could get me
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in was on monday after. the in was on the monday after. the saturday? yeah, won we nil, by the way, on day. and that's the way, on that day. and that's what bothered me and, and what really bothered me and, and the nurses were waiting outside for me in the hospital and i knew something wasn't right . i knew something wasn't right. i went in and i had an ultrasound scan and within . ten, 15 seconds scan and within. ten, 15 seconds they scanned my ball and they said, yeah, this has got to come out . and i'm right on a i felt out. and i'm right on a i felt my palms went sweater, a film of only palms sweat and what do you mean? and they said there's a tumour. there's only one word you think of when you hear the word tumour and it's cancer and. you think of when you hear the visaid,umour and it's cancer and. you think of when you hear the visaid, is|our and it's cancer and. you think of when you hear the visaid, is itjr and it's cancer and. you think of when you hear the visaid, is it cancert's cancer and. you think of when you hear the visaid, is it cancer ?s cancer and. you think of when you hear the visaid, is it cancer ? they:er and. you think of when you hear the visaid, is it cancer ? they said,|d. i said, is it cancer? they said, we don't know yet. it's got to come and the following day come out. and the following day i to ipswich, had i went back up to ipswich, had the operation. through the operation. i went through the operation. i went through the how nice . i was the same thing. how nice. i was a younger. 21. you a bit younger. i was 21. you were seven at the time? were 26 or seven at the time? yeah, it is a heck of yeah, it is it is a heck of a shock and yet, know, you're shock and yet, you know, you're sitting here talking it and i'm, i do talk about it, to be honest with you, boy. i don't know. i
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don't know . i suppose most don't know. i suppose most japanese, most men feel awkward about these things . and isn't about these things. and isn't that really the point here, that this is one of those cancers that actually can be detected early because is outside as opposed to an internal. so it can be detected early and yet there are quite a lot of young men who think something wrong, it'll get better. it'll be all right. they're the ones that finish up trouble. are finish up in trouble. they are the i felt duty bound the ones i felt duty bound actually. about actually. nigel, to talk about it. i'm very open and honest about it talk about it. about it and talk about it. i don't ashamed because don't feel ashamed because it's part know, a lot of men. part of, you know, a lot of men. i was always very privileged and lucky go into lucky that i could go into a dressing room and speak to a physio speak a doctor, speak physio, speak to a doctor, speak to surgeon and daily basis and to a surgeon and daily basis and walk in naked, not know . you walk in naked, not know. you know, that's what we did as footballers. do, believe know, that's what we did as fo oriallers. do, believe know, that's what we did as fo or not,'s. do, believe know, that's what we did as fo or not, and do, believe know, that's what we did as fo or not, and say, do, believe know, that's what we did as fo or not, and say, look, believe know, that's what we did as fo or not, and say, look, if ieve it or not, and say, look, if something with this, can something wrong with this, can you a look at it? so was you have a look at it? so was quite lucky and i lived in that that since was that lifestyle since i was a very young man and the message would don't ashamed
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would be don't be ashamed because there are doctors that that's that job to look at and work out what's wrong with you so know i don't have a problem talking about it it's quite easy. and like i said, i, i feel almost duty bound to speak out about it. they had to have a dose of chemotherapy. this idiot , which is never a whole barrel loss for anybody . but you , which is never a whole barrel loss for anybody. but you did manage to have children after this which is unusual it is so my previous lizzie you know you not very well you took him she's real talk you know i don't that for one second we get we get along very well now but yeah so at the time i had one son, joshua, who's now 28, and i was advised to store some sperm . advised to store some sperm. this was back in 1997, and this is before i second son, james, who's now 22. and naturally , i who's now 22. and naturally, i conceive with james. but unfortunately, what was three or four years later, i then had my
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oncologist said of operation the other side to check if i was going to have cancer, never saw it. and unfortunately it revealed less a thousand men a year have it is that i was going to have to sit on the other side so that's very dangerous for men if you have if you lose both both , you're in big trouble. both, you're in big trouble. there's a lot there's a lot of complications. so it's left for two choices to either i try conceiving of another son or another child or remove bone of radiotherapy. so it was it was left with one option. just remove the ball to your healthy boys. yeah remove the ball and the radiotherapy cleared it up. luckily enough. now i've still got half a ball left. right which very grateful to my which i'm very grateful to my information. happy for information. but i'm happy for the breast . i stored that sperm. the breast. i stored that sperm. sperm back in 1997 and the good news story is that 17 years later, that sperm was frozen and it was defrosted and i now have
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an eight year old boy, which is pretty which is unbelievable . pretty which is unbelievable. the ability of science to free sperm for nearly 18 years. and 18 years later at pops that leonardo well you've been through the mill with injury with health you really have i've had my fair share of baby you have. i'm a lucky boy . i can have. i'm a lucky boy. i can say, boy, this is it. you know , say, boy, this is it. you know, i've had all sorts of things go wrong with plane crashes and goodness knows what. i think goodness knows what. and i think to myself , unlucky was to myself, i unlucky or was i lucky ? well, we're both still lucky? well, we're both still sitting here, we're. both sitting here, so we're. both lucky. you know what i. i can look back and if i had my look back and say, if i had my fair share of and the fair share of bad luck and the answer question is yes. answer that question is yes. and if share of good luck. if i my fair share of good luck. and answer to that question and the answer to that question is yes. i don't sit here and is yes. so i don't sit here and look back and wallow what look back and wallow in what could been i now look ahead could have been i now look ahead and what got now? and like and say what got now? and like you said, i retired at 29 from football and i now work in the media and you've got this whole new. yes. jason cundy . and of new. yes. jason cundy. and of course , know you do the chelsea
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course, know you do the chelsea tv, but talk sports radio it, which i have to say , you know, which i have to say, you know, you have got you know you guys on that that channel you have got four people who are really big football fans. you have got a very , very devout following. a very, very devout following. and you do you seem to well, firstly , love being firstly, love being a broadcaster , joe, at night we're broadcaster, joe, at night we're lucky . yes, we have the ability lucky. yes, we have the ability to voice their opinion. i love voice in my opinion and football's been my life you but you love . we both know james you love. we both know james well, right? yeah mutual friend . we both love . yeah, but that's . we both love. yeah, but that's what it's a sport and football particular is tribal it's based on opinions. it's based on your team doing well but you have a side. but i've been lucky enough i left the school. left school at the age 16 to still be in pro eight by foot when some shape or form. yeah whether it be as a
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player, an apprentice a pro coaching in in the media doing other jobs and you know this has been like a 35 year lucky i have football a huge amount i incredibly lucky but just because you can play football doesn't mean you can be a broadcaster. no what do you think the skills ought to be available to? got an opinion, you know, and are there are many people, no footballers there from have had a far more from who have had a far more illustrious career than i have at. yeah, i i was fortunate at. yeah, i was i was fortunate that talksport gave me the chance and i've done the shows that be more shows now are present and i've been there you know since 2004. yeah. you know , 50, know since 2004. yeah. you know , so, so i have the ability to somehow now they keep employing me, they ask the question yeah you are you still get what i would i get kicked out of . yeah. would i get kicked out of. yeah. really it really was. and of course the time of day broadcast gives me great latitude and freedom as it does, which is even if i'm unable to attend talksport spokesman if anyone
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wants to go, yeah. listen yeah. we're lucky enough it's going to be kind of a cup of finals tonight. so straight off they're going go there. yeah. and we react after that the phone and so yeah it works . talksport is so yeah it works. talksport is a brilliant, brilliant radio station. i'm incredibly lucky to be there so long that has brennan and a final thought about football you know you think when you were playing you know we got about 30 years when you started playing professional football. that's there we football. well, that's there we are. these is are. that's the truth. these is it ever more dominated money today than it was then ? now, today than it was then? now, i think money's always dominated . think money's always dominated. liverpool were the richest team in country back in the in the country back in the eighties and they showed their money back then . more so now money back then. more so now because can see it. you can because you can see it. you can see the money back then. the richest clubs tended to be the best clubs because they got the best clubs because they got the best players . liverpool sold best players. liverpool sold kevin keegan they bought ? kenny kevin keegan they bought? kenny dalglish now more so dalglish yeah, but now more so because foreign investors because this foreign investors investors , namely a sport that investors, namely a sport that doesn't have money. yeah, well
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actually with the saudis getting involved, i spoke , yes, but involved, i spoke, yes, but there's more and more money coming in for everyone. yeah, that money there there is. jason carroll, the great guest. i know you're talking barbara starr . you're talking barbara starr. great. i much. thank you, great. i very much. thank you, james. . just james. but. just a okay. we've got a couple of minutes left on the programme. it is time , as is customary for it is time, as is customary for barrage . the barrage. what have barrage. the barrage. what have you got for me today? micky asks me , is reconciliation between me, is reconciliation between harry and the royal family be feasible after the tv interviews and the book? get out what i think, micky. i think that a father can probably almost forgive a son anything anything but i don't think a brother can if i was william. i'm not sure i could ever forgive him for what he's done. what do make of it? i
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wonder about harry, whether harry needs . i wonder about harry, whether harry needs. i think wonder about harry, whether harry needs . i think there might harry needs. i think there might be some something deeper and darker going on with harry. yeah, yeah. i know, stating the obvious there and got a proverb that i love very, very well of morals . feels like he's that i love very, very well of morals. feels like he's burn bndges morals. feels like he's burn bridges and he knows what he's doing. what does he well does he . i don't know whether he knows that , but . i don't know whether he knows that, but he's trashed his family, trashed his country, the monarchy. they don't know , you monarchy. they don't know, you know. well, i if i was his brother, i wouldn't forgive him in that's all can in a hurry. that's all i can really that. let's take really say to that. let's take another of ask. you another one of your ask. do you agree unless something agree that unless something significant changes, like the emergence of a new political party, there no option for party, there is no option for the electorate at the next election. oh david davis told us earlier he's going to sort the whole thing out . stop the boats whole thing out. stop the boats crossing the channel. the lives are to be great. i got to tell you, i happen think the you, i. i happen to think the irony brexit, the modern day irony of brexit, the modern day conservative party , is more like conservative party, is more like a an eu style social democrat
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party and labour's very similar. you don't politics jason but they god all to see. i'm sitting here sweating thinking i don't know . would you look at what know. would you look at what happened over there in the course of 2022? yep. pretty embarrassing. i wouldn't . but we embarrassing. i wouldn't. but we talked about what happened. three prime ministers, you name it. now not going to play . he's it. now not going to play. he's not going to play honestly . the not going to play honestly. the three managers going to say chelsea he he won't. i'm not sure this one is going to last very long the way chelsea oh there she did. we're out of time . the chelsea manager will not survive the rest of the season. no, i love you all. and it'll be. and it'll be on chelsea tv. that was right. i'm going to actually for the patrick christys right wash . that was. christys right wash. that was. i've been laughing away and nigel grey still nigel farage that roger cup is coming away. ladies and gentlemen, including a whopping great big gb news exclusive about margaret exclusive about this. margaret hotel, where basically there's 500 the local area 500 residents, the local area the office wants to plonk
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the home office wants to plonk for seekers this for asylum seekers in this particular town . it's happening particular town. it's happening right country. is right across the country. is unacceptable, not my words. the actual home office has told us thatis actual home office has told us that is not. you're the one doing it. lots a lot coming your way. much , much, more way. i'm much, much, much more with christys for with me. patrick christys for mark steyn coming up on dan wootton tonight. i'll finally hit shelves. dan gives his unflinching verdict on prince harry's tome of eight, the nation's top royal experts and insiders will weigh in, too, including angela levin, biographer of the queen, consort , plus fleet street icon . kelvin , plus fleet street icon. kelvin mackenzie offers a defence. the british press and meghan asks if even america has had enough of the sussexes . join dan 9 pm. to the sussexes. join dan 9 pm. to 11 pm. on gb news it's sundays on gb newsroom 30 it's camilla tominey for a politics show with personality. then at 11, michael portillo for topical discussion debate some ethical dilemmas and
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