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news the people's channel where now it's time for patrick christys . christys. the use of hotels house channel migrants is unacceptable . not my migrants is unacceptable. not my words. the words of the home office. we reached out and asked them for a comment on the fact that 400 asylum seekers are about to be dumped in a village of 500 people against the wishes of 500 people against the wishes of basically everyone in the local they literally local area. and they literally said the use of hotels to house asylum seekers is unacceptable to both . you're the ones doing to both. you're the ones doing it. that's this is a this is a thing you're doing you are doing the unacceptable thing. and you just continue to do it. it's like george bush as the bombs drop on baghdad. oh, the invasion of iraq is just totally unacceptable, isn't it . like unacceptable, isn't it. like charles during the diana years,

my affair with camilla . totally my affair with camilla. totally unacceptable . joseph stalin. unacceptable. joseph stalin. gulags gulags are completely unacceptable . the home office is unacceptable. the home office is right . it is completely right. it is completely unacceptable . it is unacceptable unacceptable. it is unacceptable that so many city centre hotels are full of asylum seekers. and now people in rural areas will have hundreds of young men dumped in the only hotel in the area so they can just hang around all day smoking and loitering. can you imagine being in estate agent creten in northamptonshire.7 which is what we're go to shortly? we're going to go to shortly? yeah here we have a lovely £1 million properties, big . it's million properties, big. it's spacious, it's open, it's got open kitchen, living area . open kitchen, living area. lovely back garden, full bedroom . and what makes this property really unique is that it comes with 400 asylum seekers hanging around aimlessly on your front lawn. yeah the local area is really good. it's diverse . it really good. it's diverse. it would look like the un wouldn't say. can you imagine the sense this increase in next time round the home office can call it unacceptable. but the fine says

they keep on pressing ahead with this policy and they're being clandestine about it as well. not publicised as in their plans to the local area until it's too late . but this isn't just late. but this isn't just unaccepted vote for the tories . unaccepted vote for the tories. this is suicide . absolute this is suicide. absolute suicide . if it this is suicide. absolute suicide. if it is this is suicide. absolute suicide . if it is true that the suicide. if it is true that the home office is actually trying to purchase the hotel and greeted properties in the region of around 5 million quid, by the way, so you and i now will all own because it will be own hotel because it will be taxpayers does taxpayers money. then what does that you? yeah. if buy that tell you? yeah. if they buy this does it you? this hotel, what does it you? well, it tells you that it will set up a permanent centre that creates an asylum creates will become an asylum dumping ground. creates will become an asylum dumping ground . now that this is dumping ground. now that this is really starting to pinch in the countryside and moving there is i think people will finally up and say enough is enough. people are well within their rights to say that they don't want that quiet, lovely, picturesque , quiet, lovely, picturesque, turned into a giant dumping area for people from albania . when for people from albania. when you break it down, it is nothing

short of absolutely disgusting that this government will tell people their entire place of residence will change irreversibly overnight, that they will less safe the value of their house will go down and in their house will go down and in the middle of cost of living crisis that taxes going up so they can pay these people to live a 17th century manor house and their local council tax go up as well. so these total strangers can live here, rent free, just break that down. it is disc . it free, just break that down. it is disc. it isn't just an acceptable . it is disgusting and acceptable. it is disgusting and it has to stop as just all people have had enough. i'm joined now by gb news national reporter paul. paul shocking stuff was going on that now you've been to a parish council meeting, haven't you really see the public in greece and what's actually taking place that . yes actually taking place that. yes so right now at the crete in village hall , there are about village hall, there are about 100 people meeting , including

100 people meeting, including representatives from northamptonshire , police from northamptonshire, police from west northamptonshire county council , as west northamptonshire county council, as well as the parish council, which is chairing the meeting . and they're essentially meeting. and they're essentially members of the public and people who live in crete and are being allowed to voice their concerns . i spoke to the chairjust . i spoke to the chair just before the meeting actually, and representatives from west northamptonshire county council. and essentially what they're saying , there are peace in the saying, there are peace in the world that just world that you've just mentioned, this is mentioned, which is that this is it's and doesn't it's unacceptable and it doesn't make sense not just for the people who live in the village. about 500 of them having 400 extra people for and an extra migrants put in a hotel nearby. it doesn't make sense for the migrants either, because there is literally else in crete and there are no pubs . there's there are no pubs. there's nothing except one village shops. so there's nothing for them to do. there'll be nowhere for them to go except staying this hotel that this behind me right now, highgate house hotel, which has 84 en suite bedrooms.

it's got a gym . it's got six it's got a gym. it's got six acres of land. it's been closed for about two years. the new owners, though , according to the owners, though, according to the pansh owners, though, according to the parish council, owners, though, according to the parish council , they've done parish council, they've done this deal with the home office . this deal with the home office. it'll be managed by a company called , serco. there could be called, serco. there could be and the chair of the parish council said possibly by the end of week there could be some of this week there could be some migrants moved into the hotel, but they're still waiting for confirmation that the local mp, chris heaton—harris set up a consultation , had 450 responses consultation, had 450 responses through his website . through his website. consultations have been phone to the home office . the home office the home office. the home office are listening to those responses . although it's fair to say that listening to the parish council, they're not happy with the home office, a level of communication. but just to give you the home office response, because spoken them because i have spoken to them today, they don't on today, they say they don't on operational arrangements for individual sites used for asylum accommodate . they say they accommodate. they say they engage local authorities as early as possible whenever sites are used for asylum , are used for asylum, accommodation and work to ensure

arrangements are safe for hotel and local people . but the reason and local people. but the reason why they call their own plan unacceptable is because this is really it's emergency measures to be honest, there are 140,000 people waiting to have their application process. the average waiting time is 15 months in 2021. in fact, if you go back to 2014, it was about six months. it's now 15 months. i've spoken to asylum seekers certainly in the north, england. they've been waiting. i spoke to one lady who've been waiting eight years, eight years to have her application process, during which taxpayer has had which time the taxpayer has had to her accommodation it. to fund her accommodation it. and of course, she's not been able yeah this is this able to work. yeah this is this is exactly. yeah, exactly. the taxpayer again, picking up the tab of every moment in town. if you were in meeting. well, you were in that meeting. well, what was the general mood like? i get what people are saying, but people just for are they quite concerned ? i mean, this quite concerned? i mean, this might be an area they've lived in for their lives. they obviously may be retired there or what was the or whatever. what was the general level anger or

general level of anger or frustration frustration ? i'd say frustration frustration? i'd say i'd call it sort of bewilderment, puzzlement , worry bewilderment, puzzlement, worry as well . because as i say, the as well. because as i say, the they're worried about where they live , worried about how the live, worried about how the village cope. they're also worried for the migrants themselves about what they would do. so it's not a solution that works for anyone, frankly, but the home doesn't have much choice. it's got a huge backlog of applications and it's of asylum applications and it's got nowhere to put them. you got nowhere to put them. if you think like a pipeline. think of it like a pipeline. there across the there are more coming across the channel they're moving into the system, moving into system, they're moving into these they're these centres where they're temporarily and then have temporarily and then they have to wait an enormous length of time have the application time to have the application process. during which time process. and during which time there's nowhere to house them. and apply and of course, they can't apply for from overseas, not for asylum from overseas, not unless or unless you're ukrainian or you apply afghan resettlement apply the afghan resettlement scheme or you apply or or you live in hong kong. if you're from any of the other countries, iran, iraq, syria, etc. then there's no way for you supply. and of course we know about albania as they're of albania as well. they're one of the five countries of origin

the top five countries of origin that now apply for asylum in the uk and that's a new phenomenon. and a lot of a lot albanians are coming here seeking economic for economic reasons. so you know, it's a it's a it's been a situation that's been brewing for many, many years. a lot of factors are coming together. and now we've reached this pinch point where rural areas like this are having to bear the brunt of it. well, this is it. i mean, i've had people getting in touch well, why you mean, i've had people getting in toucicarrying well, why you mean, i've had people getting in toucicarrying around hy you mean, i've had people getting in toucicarrying around it' you mean, i've had people getting in toucicarrying around it now? ou only carrying around it now? it's areas. there's it's rural areas. there's absolutely no we talking about this here for a very, very long time. just the fact that time. it's just the fact that it's almost an it's almost like almost like an urban it? but with urban sprawl, isn't it? but with margaret and i can't margaret hotels and i can't help but not this but wonder whether or not this is lot of people in is how a lot of people out in the leafy of the country the leafy parts of the country will to realise will finally come to realise that. maybe what's been going on in two years affecting in the last two years affecting them because is genuinely affecting if a like this affecting if a hotel like this is coming to their area. paul, can i'm sorry if can i ask you i'm sorry if you've said this just you've already said this is just so here, but so so much details in here, but so is the home office definitely looking to buy this hotel just

quickly, paul, because this would imply they want it to be some kind of permanent asylum centre, suppose . no, as centre, i suppose. no, as i understand it from the parish council , this is privately owned council, this is privately owned andifs council, this is privately owned and it's effectively it's been kind of contracted out. there's a deal that's been done with the home office to move migrants in. we don't know how long that would be for. and the maximum number is 400. there are 87 bedrooms says that you can do maths on that one. but no, it's not it's not being sold to the home, it's still privately owned as far as that's the arrangement that we understand of course i'm office doesn't comment on on these kind of operations. well, no, look, paul, thank no, exactly. look, paul, thank you . and estella, no, exactly. look, paul, thank you that . and estella, no, exactly. look, paul, thank you that you've and estella, no, exactly. look, paul, thank you that you've donezstella, no, exactly. look, paul, thank you that you've done today, shift that you've done today, bringing date with bringing us back up to date with all this stuff. hawkins, all of this stuff. paul hawkins, our national reporter and creates northamptonshire creates in northamptonshire reacting this by reacting to the fact and this by way going to come to town way is going to come to a town or village you if you live in an now that's quite rural maybe there's a few hundred of there's only a few hundred of you hotel you there and there's a hotel nearby . i just mark my words is

nearby. i just mark my words is no every chance that your area will change irreversibly as a result of this they're looking to in an area with 500 residents put 400 asylum seekers nearly double population. we don't know where from this law. we where they're from this law. we don't what intentions don't know what their intentions are we don't are lot of the time. we don't frankly about really, frankly know about them really, mainly a lot of cases mainly because a lot of cases they won't actually tell us. but a home office spokesperson says the people arriving the number of people arriving in the number of people arriving in the accommodation the uk who require accommodation has reached record levels as part asylum under part of our asylum under incredible the use incredible strain. the use hotels to house asylum seekers is unchecked . saps vote yes. is unchecked. saps vote yes. there currently more than there are currently more than 37,000 asylum seekers in hotels, costing the uk taxpayer 37,000 asylum seekers in hotels, costing the uk taxpaye r £5.6 costing the uk taxpayer £5.6 million a day. now clearly what they're trying to do there is say, look, what say, alright, look, this is what we need do. things like we need to do. things like change this what we change the laws, this is what we need to do, things like be tougher them. it's not we. tougher with them. it's not we. why up the why we need to speed up the asylum yet. fine. but asylum process yet. fine. but you years in to do this you have had years in to do this and think anyone and i don't think anyone particularly is a particularly thinks this is a good idea. tell you what, though, block though, the biggest block in this is people this country right now is people who the woke brigade, who are like the woke brigade, the can brigade,

who are like the woke brigade, the actually, can brigade, who are like the woke brigade, the actually, ican brigade, who are like the woke brigade, the actually, ican brtheie, because actually, i think the vast ordinary people vast majority of ordinary people like, you and me and most people that know think is that we know would think this is unacceptable the unacceptable anyone would the local taxpayer thanksgiving says we this . you pay we all pay for this. you pay £5.6 million a day for the overall asylum seeker hotel scheme and on top of that, if you have one in your local area , you're paying for that again because the public services in that area, social housing education, mental health facilities for of the children as for example, 1 million as well. for example, 1 million quid it's 1 million quid quid a day, it's 1 million quid a year, i should say. it's costing in the royal borough of windsor and maidenhead so you're paying windsor and maidenhead so you're paying it you pay paying for it twice. you pay a national a local level national level and a local level isn't acceptable. thing isn't acceptable. the thing getting of anyone getting in the way of anyone doing anything about this are the wet lefties and the sopping wet lefties and basically i needs to basically what i think needs to happen them in their happen is dump them in their area then come area and then they'll come to their week. coming their senses that week. coming up, hear thoughts up, i'm going to hear thoughts on matters. plus, on all of this matters. plus, thanks thanks for thanks a lot. all thanks for nothing . should britain be the nothing. should britain be the first country to start sending tanks to ukraine? that tanks to ukraine? what will that really to get really mean? we're going to get historian his historian geoffrey roberts, his hot take in just a minute. put

the on. i will see you .

in two. right. well, before anything else? let's hear what you had to say . asked you, is the home say. asked you, is the home office's migrant policy really unacceptable ? roger said, i work unacceptable? roger said, i work away from home every week. my regular hotel is now housing migrants . hotel prices have shot migrants. hotel prices have shot up in the area. i can't claim cost back from our customer. i have to absorb the costs. i'm and need the job. yeah absolutely 100. people who owned businesses as well or run businesses as well or run businesses or travel business only thing would often deliberate not. i've stayed in like the most expensive hotels i know some of those hotels. margaret is just in for a boat out there. but anyway, a twitter user says the question is , how user says the question is, how is it possible to keep taking limitless migrants expecting the pubuc limitless migrants expecting the public this without public to this without a reaction ? well, frankly, just

reaction? well, frankly, just think this. we have basically up until now pretty much accepted it without reaction. and we continue mean, the continue do so. i mean, the reaction pretty a reaction is pretty mild. a pansh reaction is pretty mild. a parish meeting somewhere parish council meeting somewhere increase at the minute where increase in at the minute where people aren't that angry people aren't even that angry about the fact that of their area which contains 500 residents 400 asylum seekers are going to be dropped without any consultation whatsoever . the consultation whatsoever. the home and the local home office and the local taxpayer going to pay taxpayer is going to have to pay if people , the local if those people, the local services as well. i mean, the idea we're kind of idea that we're some kind of like hate like frothing, racist, hate filled country i think has been shot, doesn't there's a shot, doesn't it? there's a little but when it little of nimbyism, but when it comes that, think it's fair comes to that, i think it's fair enough. is different. the people who a pub who move next door to a pub complain in the complain about people in the smoking it? we are smoking area isn't it? we are talking about 400 people just overnight dropped , a bit overnight being dropped, a bit taken. out anyway . we're taken. it's out anyway. we're moving from now. britain is moving on from now. britain is considering our considering sending ten of our challan two tanks to ukraine. i want to know whether or not you think should be sending tanks to ukraine so ten may not sound like much , but that would make like much, but that would make us the first country to send these armoured these heavily armoured main battle to ukraine.

battle tanks to ukraine. the government will set government hoping this will set a precedent and the americans and germans will step up and and the germans will step up and start sending a squadron n1, abrams that kyiv or abrams and leopards that kyiv or kyiv has been requesting . could kyiv has been requesting. could that turn the tide and zelensky's i'm praying the nato dream of ukrainian victory a little bit closer . i can't help little bit closer. i can't help but wonder whether or not this is slightly dangerous as well, though and for money though and value for money anyway. but of course you don't really allowed to ask about an audh really allowed to ask about an audit money in ukraine or audit of the money in ukraine or otherwise. massive issue otherwise. this massive issue is now. simply prolong now. or will they simply prolong the immense suffering caused by a war some point will most a war at some point will most likely resolved around the likely be resolved around the negotiation table. with to negotiation table. with us to discuss this is renowned russia specialist, emeritus specialist, an emeritus professor history the professor of history at the university college cork, professor geoffrey roberts. great stuff, geoffrey. thank you very much. my way. you've been sitting line for a little sitting on the line for a little while, so should send. tanks while, so should we send. tanks to ukraine? but i don't much question is there is no we shouldn't what we should be doing we should doing whatever we can to actually seek a

ceasefire and some kind of peace settlement . you know , it hadn't settlement. you know, it hadn't been for western military , for been for western military, for ukraine. this war would have been over months ago and hundreds of thousands of people's lives would would have been saved. i think you have to place this british in the context of a decision by the western governments , the western governments, the americans, the germans, french are also saying they're going to send tanks and armoured cars to ukraine now i don't know whether the brits will be the americans and germans to it and the challenge is will arrive in ukraine before that has arrived too. but what i do know is that it's that the russians have destroyed thousands of ukrainian tanks and armoured cars and i've no doubt whatsoever they'll do the same for these towns , tanks the same for these towns, tanks and other equipment. the west sent into ukraine. this this sending tanks armoured cars is not doing whatsoever to change the strategic situation on the

ground. ukraine yeah. i mean honestly , to be honest with you, honestly, to be honest with you, i'm wondering whether or not i could make you quite a lot worse because if argues now they because if angus argues now they can logistic at least well, can logistic at least say, well, this is a whopping big this is a whopping great big escalation. if you see now he's gone a bit mad and all of this i mean, it could it could escalate the could not the whole thing could not i think. it i don't think think. yeah it i don't think it's a dangerous move in itself because . what's being proposed because. what's being proposed to send a very limited amount of western military equipment, which will probably take to actually reach the front line. i won't make much a difference to the outcome of the various to go going on anyway. what worries me about it is what the west is going to do next. you know there's a lot talk about supplying ukraine with long missiles which can or a russian made land are we going to see western technicians on the ground but this is the other thing i was approaching this is this is exactly the other thing i was going to say, which is the tanks and then of a

tanks go there and then of a sudden, as you've said, that it's always western technicians that needs be on ground or that needs be on the ground or people teach. and it people to teach. and then it is boots ground isn't it. we boots on the ground isn't it. we are edging closer and closer towards paul said well west i suppose maybe just open being at war with russia . yeah, i just war with russia. yeah, i just i guess probably i think you're right. i mean that that's what worries me about this is this latest issue not what impact are actually going to have militarily, but their impact psychologically . yeah, because psychologically. yeah, because fear is war. there's been a pattern , the escalation of pattern, the escalation of western militaries to t to ukraine and there are people argue, some very hawkish elements also argue, well, the west could do what it wants. putin has no red lines and whatever he might say, he's not going to respond in any ugly, provocative to what we not provocative to what we do not know. think completely wrong . know. i think completely wrong. yeah, no challenge at times i think people were probably a bit sick of every now and again every 2 minutes you know we'd

have we could have a catastrophic crisis in this country . there's every chance country. there's every chance that that moment in time our prime minister happens to be in kyiv. isn't kyiv. meeting zelenskyy isn't that he seems to be quite literally to out jail literally to get out of jail card single that the card every single time that the issue. is he. where's issue. hey where is he. where's he ukraine and he gone. i was in ukraine and i think the british public were a little bit sick tired of little bit sick and tired of this chat. they go for this open chat. they go for a lot of i have a bit of that lot of may i have a bit of that but look at it now and but tanks we look at it now and we just don't see just sums of money sent exactly what money being sent exactly what that simple a simple point you just made . i mean, this just just made. i mean, this just decision about the challenge of tanks and the other west, it is not so much a military move or a military escalation. it's about politics. it's about western politicians signing off rice because the tide of war in because the tide of the war in ukraine turned in russia's ukraine is turned in russia's favour, decision favour, which the decision makers see on the horizon . on makers see on the horizon. on the horizon, maybe in the relatively near future , the relatively near future, the possibility of a putin victory . possibility of a putin victory. ukraine and most of political leaders don't want to be left in a where the finger can be pointed to say, oh, you didn't

do enough to ukraine. why did you send your tanks ? why didn't you send your tanks? why didn't you send your tanks? why didn't you your arms ? so i think you send your arms? so i think it's very, political move it's a very, very political move , that token effort. but i just say , yeah, go as you said , it's say, yeah, go as you said, it's dangerous in terms of the potential for future escalation. you know, it's not this move towards me is what the west might might do next. so actually the way i look the whole thing about this ukraine war which is what from the very beginning i've been arguing that we need to is . this danger of to stop it is. this danger of a escalation, escalation to an all out war between absolutely . and out war between absolutely. and i'm inclined to say that actually the most dangerous penod actually the most dangerous period of the escalation is actually coming, coming, coming . i'm angry in ukraine. is coming to some kind of conclusion militarily then. so the danger of some kind of existential escalation of conflict is presenting yourself so very sorry. i agree. i that very reckless decision but by the by the british government if they do a cut of head to this

challenge decision. yeah agree and they've rolled and i think they've rolled wicket for this because when it first kicked off everyone was like oh my gosh and we've been sending a little sending them stuff for a little while we've had 100,000 while now. we've had 100,000 more well more ukrainian refugees as well and actually idea and so actually now the idea that tanks isn't that we're sending tanks isn't quite as shocking as maybe it should and the serious consequence might be swept consequence of it might be swept under the rug very quickly, very finally, a finally, jeffrey, i spoke a lot at the show about the at the top of the show about the amount the british amount that the british taxpayers to at both taxpayers having to pay at both a level when a national and local level when it our asylum seeker it comes to our asylum seeker policy hotels and also policy and hotels and also accepting massive, whopping great big demographic change in their and their areas. well, now you and i are talking about money, etc, being sent without any public consultation it would seem, including obviously weaponry as well . do you, the british well. do you, the british taxpayer, has a right to be concerned about this , but. well, concerned about this, but. well, the thing is, of course, i live in ireland. so it's not very direct. it's not really my mike. mike, to me . direct. it's not really my mike. mike, to me. but direct. it's not really my mike. mike, to me . but what direct. it's not really my mike. mike, to me. but what i will direct. it's not really my mike. mike, to me . but what i will say mike, to me. but what i will say is this a relationship obviously, you know, there are millions of ukrainian refugees

in europe and many of them in britain and on the soil, and they represent a massive, massive social, social challenge for the society and the danger they could be millions more heading heading for britain. eddie brock . heading heading for britain. eddie brock. eddie fisher. so and the weight of the most the best way to deal with that problem is to bring the war in ukraine to an end as soon as possible, to start rebuilding the ukraine from devastation. so these these ukrainian temporary asylum seekers, temporary refugees, they can actually return home and live in peace. well, that's the thing. and it'll be interesting once. thank you very much, geoffrey. great stuff. great to have you the stuff. great to have you on the show. be talking again show. and we'll be talking again very soon, no doubt. that's geoffrey who is geoffrey roberts, who is emeritus professor of history at the university cork. and, of course , justin, an course, justin, an internationally renowned russia specialist. i suspect talk about a lot of the views that you at home are right now. we're paying through the nose for what's been going these. margaret going on with these. margaret atwood denounce what's atwood pain to denounce what's taking the taking place in ukraine at the minute . and all the while, we're

minute. and all the while, we're being that we're skin right being told that we're skin right hair anyway, coming up, the leader democratic leader of the social democratic party will include and he's been sitting very patiently for a very long actually . with very long time, actually. with me the studio to me right here in the studio to discuss the to strike is discuss the right to strike is grant photo shops announces , new grant photo shops announces, new controversial plans . plus, controversial plans. plus, should the woke church during them be paying back slave trade reparations to compensate for their links to it? reparations to compensate for their links to it ? i'm reparations to compensate for their links to it? i'm not sure. anyway, we'll be debating with two clergymen yet again on this show. i've gone priest versus you love to say you won't want to miss it. we'll see after the .

break business secretary grant shapps today revealed a new bill requiring , today revealed a new bill requiring, minimum levels of service from , nhs staff, service from, nhs staff, firefighters and railway workers dunng firefighters and railway workers during any industrial action . during any industrial action. this minimum level of service means workers who would like to

strike may not be able to. the bill, which is to pass and as quickly as six months, has stated that unions and staff who breach minimum service levels will lose employment protections and could be sacked. someone has spoken out about this bill is the leader of the social democratic party and someone who i've only ever met via zoom before. very pleased before. so i'm very pleased to have actually exists in have met now actually exists in life to stand with life is willing to stand with him . how are you. good to be him. how are you. good to be here. against this, here. are you against this, though? just it's. though? yeah, i it's just it's. it's another publicity stunt, actually. nothing do the actually. nothing they do the moment can this present moment can help this present crisis because it's to get crisis because it's got to get through lords it possibly through the lords it possibly won't. they don't have won't. also they don't have a mandate for this, know, they mandate for this, you know, they a mandate in the 2019 a limited mandate in the 2019 manifesto to have no you know minimum service level trains and now they're extending it to fire nothing else. it is desperation because they've messed up. well i mean, i could argue just on the train thing, i care less about , as the train thing, i care less about, as indeed the the train thing, i care less about , as indeed the british about, as indeed the british pubuc about, as indeed the british public do, i think when it comes to firefighters , i mean it. to firefighters, i mean it. yeah, thankfully would have yeah, i thankfully would have never had to call the fire

department. but if i was about to burn to death, i, i would be of the mind that that law be allowed to be on strike that day. you'll find that most services, even when they're on strike, minimum provision. strike, have minimum provision. actually, with as well. actually, the same with as well. so a of happens anyway so a lot of this happens anyway this i've called out the this is why i've called out the government many times recently on stunts. rwanda's on publicity stunts. rwanda's scheme a publicity stunt won't work well . it's not happened work well. it's not happened yet. it's not happening. it won't happen. i said. it'sjust a stunt. it can't a publicity stunt. it can't happen. serious, happen. if they're serious, that have undermine legal have to undermine the legal bafis have to undermine the legal basis coming and basis for people coming and staying and they don't do that. so they're serious. what so they're not serious. but what i've about actually the i've talked about actually the broader of why how broader causes of this, why how do we here? what your all do we get here? what your all this flailing around, the cost of living crisis the government's responses to it pubuchy government's responses to it publicity stunts like this are symptoms of a broader from the bafic symptoms of a broader from the basic problem we've got a trade problem we've this country's a trade from we buy more than we sell a no new labour or tories have done anything about this

for years literally and it's in the trade balance. let's have a look at the bigger picture stuff that because i have been saying this for time, which is this for a long time, which is that no vision it that there's been no vision it seems to me and i just wonder whether or not the media's had a bit to play in this, because it seems the we have a new seems to be the we have a new politics. all about it's politics. it's all about it's all about 20 because make your point your slogan stronger and whatever all that means. right. and actually think that undermines the idea and having a clear coherent vision . well to clear coherent vision. well to fit too very few people in the tory party have ideology actually now and i would argue the few that do have the wrong one, which is sort of basic unilateral free trade, the of free trade maniacs and that people like liz truss that often do japan trade deal that . trade do japan trade deal that. trade dealis do japan trade deal that. trade deal is modelled to widen our bilateral trade deficit with japan and. i'm just going to call it out now. it's going to make us poorer. will make us poorer in the long run. the you know, you can only pay for

imports in one of three ways. you export something, imports in one of three ways. you sell export something, imports in one of three ways. you sell something ething, imports in one of three ways. you sell something you've can sell something you've already you issue already made, or you can issue debt this successive debt. and this got successive i think out the labour think i'll call out the labour party and tories are party and the tories are specialists in failure. yeah, they are. but but then this is a big problem. okay if we've got as we have now, several massive issues facing this. yeah. massive issues . fact we've dealt massive issues. fact we've dealt with a couple of them so far tonight to cope what's going on in as a in the channel immigration as a whole . we've got cost of whole. we've got the cost of living crisis we've got living crisis housing we've got housing goodness gracious me the nhs without i'm certainly calling for it for someone clips is up and i'll get the sat without some kind of coup. we're not going get anything different from what we've got now all we well what got now is just well what we've got now is just sticking it is sticking plaster politics it is but we think long term but we and we think long term and of the things we say and some of the things we say will be tough. you we on housing we state getting we propose the state getting back the business of building back in the business of building houses basically houses that's that's basically what's gone we've what's gone wrong we've destroyed state's to build houses end up with housing houses you end up with housing crisis has to be crisis and that has to be repaired and it has be you repaired and it has to be you have be serious about

have to be serious about likewise industry likewise on trade and industry you need to actually we've called some trade friction called for some trade friction to re industrialised don't make anything no country we don't know last cry know know narcissus a last cry crucial is a crime that we not make enough stuff in the 9% and then we do the way then we impose it from absolute despots and we don't care about slavery. it's the worst factories. forget about it, pollute in factories it's so dishonest . let's be it's so dishonest. let's be honest. i'll make a with you. okay. we are party. we have a very good green paper on this, which is the end of a difference. economics. green papen difference. economics. green paper. excellent readers this tough read . that's what we tough read. that's what we believe in. okay now we will have over a hundred candidates the next election if we if we get in on that scale, we will hold about. that's my offer. okay fair enough. is a decent offer one. thing i would ask, though, and politely say, which is the british public, i think who i love , i think sometimes we who i love, i think sometimes we get what we ask for and if we are weak at times and we let

tail wag the dog and we roll over and die. when it comes to some inexplicable elements of woke ideology, for example , or woke ideology, for example, or we for a quieter life, possibly remove ourselves from common sense all we become incredibly reactive . appreciate the irony reactive. appreciate the irony of me saying this my job to react to stuff, but we things then we get the kind politician that we create and politician is naff . yeah, they are and they're naff. yeah, they are and they're cowardly and i think one of the biggest we go around saying most of our problems even the economic problems are actually cultural not cultural cultural really, not cultural really. a failure to take really. it's a failure to take serious law making anything here. it's a failure to buy british, want to buy british. all of these start with not caring and the migrant crisis is basically an exercise in that an example just they've got an 8070 seat majority. yeah and they don't. if they can't i would say to anyone you think you're to anyone once you think you're foolish enough vote do foolish enough to vote tory, do you will do you really think they will do anything the stuff anything they? all the stuff that hear say now. that you hear from say not now. i believe of it. i don't believe any of it. i just wonder if i think got

just wonder if i think we've got time more. if we time for one more. if we progress but i do just progress now. but i do just wonder whether or not this is bad you , because i bad news for you, because i suspect people are going to go more down. the reform route, whether they're going to more whether they're going to go more the somebody more over the idea of somebody more over play the idea of somebody more over play well, i suppose. right wing well, yeah, but the free open borders free hasn't really served us very well. and if you're in the midlands or the nonh you're in the midlands or the north actually , you want north actually, you want industrialisation that you industrialisation that says you want us. want housing program, that's us. so actually we're talking to reform you guys, you know, we've done a deal in south yorkshire working very closely them, working very closely with them, had a meeting with them on saturday. was anymore more saturday. so i was anymore more on done an on that well we've done an electoral it's a deal. we, electoral deal. it's a deal. we, we've stan is in six we've got no stan is in six seats each in south we have joint description so we're fighting that together for the sausage. fighting that together for the sausage . yeah, yeah, yeah. and sausage. yeah, yeah, yeah. and fertile ground. yeah. we'll do well. we'll do well. what's the spice. would be. would spice. what would be. what would be aim. we want be what will be the aim. we want to there. we will win seats to win there. we will win seats reform have a slightly better party. that's to be honest about that. but we'll see. we'll do

very well. we've got most of sheffield it will see. sheffield doing so. it will see. and actually this is interesting. i'm sorry, a dragons now because just dragons out now because you just dropped bombshell at the end here of you here but there elements of you and reform i think that are actually very workable together. yeah we there are about four or five things that we agree with we want to control immigration within with good enough to govern ourselves. that's important. electoral important. we want electoral reform. constitute reform. we want to constitute reform. we want to constitute reform. them reform. we disagree with them about does about economics. and that does affect few things. but we're grown enough , work together grown up enough, work together well , watch this space. grown up enough, work together well, watch this space. thank you i mean, just we you very much. i mean, just we didn't much about didn't talk much about the strikes, we did strikes, so we don't it we did seem interesting anyway. strikes, so we don't it we did seerguys interesting anyway. strikes, so we don't it we did seerguys the |teresting anyway. strikes, so we don't it we did seerguys the leader1g anyway. strikes, so we don't it we did seerguys the leader of anyway. strikes, so we don't it we did seerguys the leader of the vay. but guys the leader of the social democrat party, right, coming out. what do you make it out? people not always got a good career . the church of good career. the church of england. the church england england. the church of england have announced million have announced a 100th million pound plans help address their shameful linked to the shameful past linked to the slave trade. we asked how far back historical go, back should historical go, i will have two members of the clergy on pentecostal bishop joe aldridge and associate editor of the catholic herald dr. gavin

ashenden . there we go. we're ashenden. there we go. we're going toe to toe. don't call it a dog collar and. it was almost, almost half my favourite part of the show when you, the british, my people, my loved ones, my fans get to give me a good pubuc fans get to give me a good public match, right. and you hold back, send in views, ask me anything, ask me under the gb views a gbnews.uk assault to come. don't go anywhere .

welcome back, everybody . today, welcome back, everybody. today, the church of england have committed to setting up a £100 million fund to address past wrongs in relations links to the slave trade. now, they are not calling it reparations, but a lot of people are saying it looks and sounds. a lot like reparations. report released reparations. a report released today for the church commission has revealed the savings endowment . that's a joke in endowment fund. that's a joke in there somewhere. i won't make it

estimated worth over there somewhere. i won't make it estimated to be worth ove r £9 estimated to be worth over £9 billion and can be traced back to queen anne's bounty, a financial scheme, established in 17 n0. financial scheme, established in 17 no. four. based on trends , 17 no. four. based on trends, chattel, slavery and also worst chocolates in box. everyone knows the bounties . it's knows the bounties. it's terrible. anyway, among the contributors to the queen anne's bounty was edward colston. remember him off of the statue ? remember him off of the statue? we don't need to rake all that up again. we he was a slave up again. we do. he was a slave trader. his statue in bristol was toppled in 20 a black was toppled in 20 by a black lives activist . anyway, lives matter activist. anyway, the using the term the church is not using the term reparations as this scheme won't compensate individuals but will help focus on projects to improve opportunities for. communities adversely impacted by the historic slavery anyway. how far back we go? 1704 was when i read this day out 1704 do we have to go this far back? do you have to say sorry, people have to pay for stuff that happened then? agree with happened then? do you agree with historical because historical reparations? because the world seems to be going that way. first and way. this will be the first and it be the last. it

it will not be the last. it doesn't country on earth have some kind historical reparation that do. the french that it needs to do. the french i norman invasion . i was for the norman invasion. what about the italians for roman rule. here with me to discuss now is pentecostal bishop joe, an associate editor of the catholic herald, going to government action to both of thank you very much i will start with you bishop joe eldridge . do with you bishop joe eldridge. do you think that what the church of right ? of england is doing is right? yes, i do . i think it is. it is yes, i do. i think it is. it is right . yes, i do. i think it is. it is right. i yes, i do. i think it is. it is right . i would like to see more right. i would like to see more of . they're not the only ones of. they're not the only ones who are moving in the direction of what i will call reparations . and i think it's a good move. you know, your substantive question about how far do you go back ? this is not this is not back? this is not this is not a hypothetical thing for me personally. you know , my personally. you know, my ancestor going back to the 16th century, were hauled across the atlantic in the transatlantic slave trade. and if there were unlucky to arrive the other end, they'd put to work as chattel

slaves. and i do . i can. can slaves. and i do. i can. can i ask you a question. can i ask you a question on the. i'll come to you. don't the government a second. but it is of vital importance. and i can curse on it so that is shocking. obviously shocking and terrible . i don't think anyone alive today realistically thinks that , you know, that was anything other than despicable . two other than despicable. two people who are alive today to pay people who are alive today to pay for that. i mean , i am pay for that. i mean, i am white, but my family go back as far as you like. absolutely nothing to do with the slave trade. sure. the when that slavery that slavery was brought to an end in 1834 actually happenedin to an end in 1834 actually happened in 38. the people who owned slaves were paid . happened in 38. the people who owned slaves were paid . £20 owned slaves were paid. £20 million. in that times, money, that money. and all the other benefits from slavery , i'm benefits from slavery, i'm afraid, permeate the entire country. and i would say several other western countries were

also involved in the slave trade . so it's not just a historic issue we're talking about. we are saying that that riches, that wealth, that is as prevalent today as it was then. and the lack of wealth, as in my people were chucked out without any compensation for over three years of slavery . that poverty years of slavery. that poverty continues today and i'll come back to i will come back to you we're going to go now to the associate editor of the catholic herald, gavin standing because we've all of views . we've all of that your views. well the trouble with wukari is it's single issue and virtue signalling. so i would like to say my ancestors were captured . say my ancestors were captured. white ancestors were captured by blacks slave traders. and i would like some reparation to it because between 1600 and 1901 and a quarter million and europeans were captured by barbary pirates and taken to nonh barbary pirates and taken to north africa and sold into there. so we have exactly the

same histories and the numbers are even similar and i further once every we've paid already in the to fund the 1833 slavery act we took 40% of the national income. we borrowed to pay off to buy slaves . the owners we to buy slaves. the owners we only finished paying that debt in 2014. how many times would you like to pay and the fact is that our white ancestors enslaved by black slaves. it's the same history. you cannot you cannot use woke mockery in order to justify this and treated as if it's a special pleading, a unique one off case. everyone's done bishop george it i'll throw it back your way i'm not sure about work i'm afraid . i don't about work i'm afraid. i don't think i get that thrown at me every day . if you want to make a every day. if you want to make a case, you're not within the church of england's work. oh, i see. if you want to make a case for what you're saying, then make case. am simply make that case. i am simply making case that that money. make that case. i am simply maktalked case that that money. make that case. i am simply maktalked aboutthat that money. make that case. i am simply maktalked about that that money. make that case. i am simply maktalked about that was money. make that case. i am simply maktalked about that was indeed you talked about that was indeed

only completed the payment of it by the government in 2015 i think got 19 at that money not a penny of it went to any of the slaves or the descendants slaves. that money was borrowed pay slaves. that money was borrowed pay the slave owners . my point pay the slave owners. my point is that money circulated into british society and it from that people like me my parents came here in the 1950s as economic. why? because jamaica was a very poor place and they couldn't find the substance there. so they came here because there was there were work here. why is there were work here. why is there work here ? because of that there work here? because of that history. i do understand history. okay i do understand that i'm to. yes, yes. again, throw over to dr. gavin goes to gavin. i don't want to sound too ignorant here, but i understand that whilst money is perky floating around society today that can be traced back in one way or another to the realistic , they aren't the people who are blame on the people who suffered it all debt . yes, the problem

it all debt. yes, the problem with all due respect, the arguments been repeated. you were right when you said in the first place there is no statute of limitation to slavery, the welsh have done it to the english. welsh have done it to the engush.the welsh have done it to the english. the romans did it to us.the english. the romans did it to us. the russians are doing it to be. slavery has been the normal way beings have way deformed human beings have badly treated one another. you just take the dreadful tragic african experience and lay it at the hands of the europeans , say the hands of the europeans, say nothing else counts . the fact is nothing else counts. the fact is we really did have one and a quarter million people sold into slavery by black african traders. you can't just we're going to treat only the americans, the american situation and not take recognition of the fact that slave has been a worldwide phenomenon. i mean it's one that we'd love. we'd we'd like to we've grown out of it. we haven't grown out of it. we're still there's no point at still it. there's no point at which you can say. slavery was a single that took place 200 single issue that took place 200 years with with african years ago with with the african just know it would just just just on know it would just be impressive to me i think that was interesting bishop was an interesting point. bishop joe, got to put that to joe, i have got to put that to you. i mean, black people

enslaving other black we enslaving other black people. we just made by just have the point that made by dr. white people dr. garvin that white people over of but over the course of history but enslaved i do enslaved as well i mean do i would you. i have a right to some people in for some people in africa for reparations. every reparations. there is every evidence that slavery has been a phenomenon amongst human beings probably for as long as have lived. there's no question about that. what we are talking about here is a situation and where from the 15th, 16th century to the 19th central, 300 years that blacks , african slaves were blacks, african slaves were exploited and the money that they they made their free labour for over 300 years was what helped build this country. the point is, it isn't yesterday's controversy because the wealth of that time stretches into today. i get what you property time stretches a i get the point you make we're out of time chaps i could . i could talk about this i could. i could talk about this all evening. i thank you very, very much. i thoroughly enjoyed it. knowledge it. and i'm no obvious knowledge is done as well. both is what i've done as well. both of you really insightful stuff from our from different angles. our

pentecostal bishop diljit unassociated to the catholic herald. i am sure that my inbox is kicking right off as a result. this i'm going to go now to a statement from the archbishop of canterbury justin welby, who's also the chair of church he said, church commission. as he said, the lays bare the the full report lays bare the links . church commission, the full report lays bare the linipredecessor'ch commission, the full report lays bare the linipredecessor fund�*mmission, the full report lays bare the linipredecessor fund with ssion, his predecessor fund with transatlantic chattel slavery . i transatlantic chattel slavery. i am deeply sorry for these links . it's now time to take action to address the shameful past taboos. justin welby to get more and more woke following the day doesn't a look i thoroughly enjoy what we're talking about that get wrong. how that do not get me wrong. how far does this go? and of far back does this go? and of course, it's a highly unfashionable, isn't it? it's highly unfashionable to say that actually people that actually some of the people that some be seeking some black should be seeking reparations other black reparations from are other black people because slave people because of the slave trade taking place in trade that was taking place in africa. we go . it's time. africa. there we go. it's time. it's time for one of my favourite parts of the show . you favourite parts of the show. you get to ask me anything. it's time for thommo patrick uh, right. okay edward says my favourite chocolate bar is cadbury's boost, but this is the roll out. sales have died down.

we're changing the name to boost regenerate sales. what i said he can ask me anything. i mean, was this really the best you could do. edward no, i don't. don't care. no one cares. full frame next. okay, we've got if harry said that he'd met elvis presley in his book would the sussex squad have believed it is true . squad have believed it is true. probably. i mean, he's not a million miles away from it. some would argue that after his revelations, the magic mushrooms cannabis i it cannabis and coke, i mean, it have been weird if he hadn't at some elvis. anyway, some point seen elvis. anyway, up he's down. watson up next, he's down. watson downs here. here ? he's here. donna, is he here? he's down down? yeah now, down here. down? yeah now, patrick, haven't seen you for ages. dan, how are you? i'm very good. happy new year. happy new year. good. happy new year. happy new year . i'm a good. happy new year. happy new year. i'm a bit exhausted today, patrick because i have spent hours , hours and hours my life hours, hours and hours my life that i will never get back, read in a spare and i get a little mental jim patrick from prince harry. so i'm going to respond in my digest and we've got a

stellar line—up actually. levin tom, bower, calvin mackenzie , tom, bower, calvin mackenzie, meghan kelly and going to give this thing the analysis you won't get anywhere else in the woke media oh you absolute legend because i was in the documentary series on netflix you're in the book. i mean good but i you know i tell i was going it i was going to going to buy it i was going to write. also coming after write. also coming up after break, a wonderful break, you've got a wonderful show the wonderful down show where the wonderful down with me? mark with it now is it for me? mark steyn the way, mark steyn says, by the way, mark steyn says, by the way, mark steyn is the mend is on the mend. we've actually, as mark steyn safe, stay.

free no spin , no bias, no censorship. no spin, no bias, no censorship. i'm dan wootton tonight. prince harry's work of fantasy spare has hit the shelves and buried between his traitorous bile a first world problems that expose him as the ultra privileged man baby that he really . i

him as the ultra privileged man baby that he really. i was excited . welcome back to my home excited. welcome back to my home but also embarrassed not court was no palace no court was palace adjacent that was the best could say for us . so best could say for us. so there's no doubt this hypocrisy fuelled autobiography will make the sussexes even richer. but it will go down as the biggest mistake in publishing in history, i believe. and i'll explain why in a special digest before my superstar panel delivered, david, tonight, i'm joined by a man of brazil, calvin robinson and rebecca reid .then calvin robinson and rebecca reid . then i'll bring you more expert analysis from royal insiders. at 1050, an esteemed biographer, tom bower, investigates harry's fall from grace. let's see you then become the quote sadly man. he accuses his critics of being with. king charles reportedly furious at his son for causing his red line by attacking his wife, the queen consort . is it by attacking his wife, the queen consort. is it time by attacking his wife, the queen consort . is it time the palace consort. is it time the palace retaliated, welcoming his biographer , levin takes on biographer, levin takes on social commentator joanna