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this is mark dolan tonight, which now starts at the earlier time 8 pm. every friday and saturday night, right through until 11. and just a moment. my now clips of the week we pulled together all of the best bits from seven days of great output here at the people's channel. what a great start to your weekend also this hour former member the european parliament and football club chairman lowe joins me. we'll be asking if the political elites are trying to undo brexit. we'll also speak to royal bodyguard ken wharfe live in the studio to give us his insider take on two weeks of royal mayhem. and the world champion boxer ebony bridges
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will be on the show later to tell us, why sex and sport can mix . now tell us, why sex and sport can mix. now later in the show in the question after the bbc release a ten part shamima begum podcast to all be asking should we forgive terrorists? shamima becomes lawyerjoins we forgive terrorists? shamima becomes lawyer joins us we forgive terrorists? shamima becomes lawyerjoins us live . becomes lawyer joins us live. and my mark means guest is hilarious. margaret thatcher in person later. and spitting image at star steve nash a total legend of comedy. at star steve nash a total legend of comedy . lots to get legend of comedy. lots to get through. it is friday night so i want to stimulate you and inform in equal measure and have plenty fun along the way. we don't do bonng fun along the way. we don't do boring not on my watch. but first, the headlines with karen . hel first, the headlines with karen. hel the gb news from manchester city footballer benjamin has been found not guilty on six counts of rape and on one kind of sexual assault against five women. however, the france international faces a retrial .
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international faces a retrial. on one kind of rape and on one of the attempted rape after the jury of the attempted rape after the jury failed to reach verdicts after the five month long trial at chester crown court. his retrial has been scheduled for the end of june . the labour the end of june. the labour leader , sir keir starmer, is leader, sir keir starmer, is urging the prime minister resolve the northern ireland protocol dispute. as a matter urgency. on a two day visit to the province, sir keir urged rishi sunak make a deal to solve problems with a post—war exit trading arrangements. and he said labour would provide political cover and support to get it through . sir keir also get it through. sir keir also promised his party will remain in good faith of the good friday agreement . so i say to the prime agreement. so i say to the prime minister, if, if there is a deal to do coming weeks , do it. to do coming weeks, do it. whatever political cover you , whatever political cover you, whatever mechanisms in westminster you require. if it delivers for our national interest and the people of
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northern ireland, we will support . the time for action on support. the time for action on the protocol is now . donald the protocol is now. donald trump's company has been fined £i.3 trump's company has been fined £13 million for a number of tax crimes conspiracy, criminal fraud and falsifying business records . the former us president records. the former us president did go on trial himself and he denied any knowledge his former executives illegally evaded paying executives illegally evaded paying tax a 15 year period. however the trump organisation was convicted for 17 counts of tax fraud last month . trump's tax fraud last month. trump's described the case as a politically motivated witch hunt . as lawyers have vowed to appeal the verdict, rescue teams are searching for survivors after a series of tornadoes swept the southern united states, killing at least nine people. seven of those deaths have been reported in which was hit particularly hard by at least five twisters, leaving tens of thousands of people without power . saturday, a five without power. saturday, a five year old child amongst the dead after being hit by a falling tree in georgia. emergency officials say the death toll,
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though, is expected to rise. people england, are being warned to brace themselves for more extreme weather with heavy rain and forecast for the coming days . from sunday, the north midlands and central and eastern parts of england are expected to be hit with cold, icy conditions and heavy snow, with the met office warning of health risks to vulnerable people . and the to vulnerable people. and the environment agency has issued 81 flood warnings, mostly in the west and the south—west of england. along with 155 flood alerts . so look yourselves over alerts. so look yourselves over the coming days if indeed the bad weather hits you tv, online and dab+ radio . this is gb news. and dab+ radio. this is gb news. now back to mark dolan tonight to lighten the mood . to lighten the mood. thanks are you looking sharp tonight? we'll see you nine. welcome to mark dolan . if you
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welcome to mark dolan. if you want to start your weekend. right. you have come to the place. we've got 3 hours of fantastic content for you and let's kick off as always with clips of the week . yes, i've got clips of the week. yes, i've got the biggest names at gb news knocking on my door every week, begging to be in this section . begging to be in this section. we bring you the very best from your channel over the last seven days. also this hour, former member of the european parliament and football club chairman lowe will be chairman rupert lowe will be here. we'll ask him if the here. and we'll ask him if the political are trying to political elites are trying to undo. political elites are trying to undo . also joined live undo. we'll also be joined live in the studio by ken wolf. of course, diane is a former bodyguard. he's in the studio to reflect on two weeks of harry inspire mayhem . plus, the world inspire mayhem. plus, the world champion boxer ebony bridges will be on the show later to tell us why sex and sport actually makes . and later in the actually makes. and later in the show , the big question after show, the big question after nine. following the release of a bbc shamima podcast, i'll be asking should we forgive terrorists? shamima begum,
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lawyer joins live sparks will. and my guest is the hilarious margaret thatcher in person later. and spitting image star steve nolen. so it is friday night and it's cold outside. so why not settle down? have a great night with myself and some fantastic guests. what better way to start with my gb news clips of the week . we kick off clips of the week. we kick off our clips of the week with magnificent nana a queer. now i know nana is never to ask the tough questions , but even tough questions, but even i raise an eyebrow. at last tweet nana topic . read the question nana topic. read the question carefully in the bottom right hand corner . send me your hand corner. send me your thoughts. email gb views at gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news. i've also got a pull up right now asking that very question would you forgive harry if he was your son? cast your vote now. but first, a short
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break. now the eagle eyed will actually understand that that red would i forgive harry if he was in my son? well, it depends how they know each other. i mean, has he taken him out for dinner? have they had a drink? was my son ready for that? next big step? i'll be honest, that could be a few quid in it, so i'd say go for it, lad . moving i'd say go for it, lad. moving on.the i'd say go for it, lad. moving on. the nhs remains a huge crisis. what's the strikes? winter flu pool . recruitments. winter flu pool. recruitments. renowned health expert leo kearse has other ideas to scrub nhs because the racist . and we nhs because the racist. and we know that the racist because equality diversity and inclusion departments because they've got so much racism. so the fact they've got equality diversity inclusion departments means that there are racists exist. is there are two racists exist. is that thing archaic ? that rant is that thing archaic? that rant is a bit like the movie inception. i'm going to have to watch it a few times to work out exactly what's going there . now, what's going on there. now, i had the privilege of sitting in for dan wootton last week, but the big man was back on. no spin, no bias , no censorship.
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spin, no bias, no censorship. here is dan as evenhanded and impartial . here is dan as evenhanded and impartial. take on a certain book which is shooting up the bestseller . prince book which is shooting up the bestseller. prince harry delusional work of fantasy has hit the shelves and buried between his traitor as vile of first world problems that expose him as the ultra privileged man baby that he really is . months baby that he really is. months later, and i still have no where dan stands on that issue. now we can't get enough of dan wootton on clips of the week is politely rebuffing sadiq after the london mayor suggested brexit was a mistake . the biggest the biggest mistake. the biggest the biggest piece of self inflict harm ever done to a country leave the european . union there you go. european. union there you go. well, dan's response , take it up . th well, dan's response, take it up. th , folks. by the way clips of the week has made it into next
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week's clips of the week. avc that's democracy, mate . that's that's democracy, mate. that's democracy mate . i can sense democracy mate. i can sense that's to be the meme of 2023. now, i was on the channel 4 reality show, the jump once, but despite my superb performance, i was voted by the viewers. what does dan wootton think of that . does dan wootton think of that. that's democracy , mate. i tell that's democracy, mate. i tell you something, i order that's democracy, mate. i tell you something , i order takeaway you something, i order takeaway with my family . the other day. with my family. the other day. i wanted chinese. the rest of them wanted chinese. the rest of them wanted a curry that was democracy to dan wootton once again on. now, eamonn holmes is back on our screens a joyous part of breakfast television . part of breakfast television. we've missed his wit , his we've missed his wit, his charisma and professionalism , charisma and professionalism, but most of all, the fact that he's a gentleman of the highest order and fashionista. i'm looking at your incredible purple boots under the table. they're going to show them. there we go. oh, my god. this is what we like. and i feel that i
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look at this. what did . blimey, look at this. what did. blimey, i'm not even sure he sees that much of ruth. let me see if i can pull that trick off. are you ready, folks? whoa . oh. jesus ready, folks? whoa. oh. jesus christ . oh that felt good. there christ. oh that felt good. there you go. i can just feel our ratings through the roof. by the way, apologies if you got more than the ball game for there. and apologies to any younger viewers . now, let's crack on. we viewers. now, let's crack on. we got clips of the week in free speech nation andrew doyle next, the show that discusses the major issues of the day and also helps our viewers solve their unfiltered dilemmas . comedian unfiltered dilemmas. comedian suji le khurshid . a spot of suji le khurshid. a spot of tough love in order. i've been with my boyfriend for over seven years and i'm really ready to take the next step. the problem is, i don't think he is. i keep
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dropping hints, but he doesn't seem to be catching on. what else i do? what you mean else should i do? what you mean by the next step? you mean divorce. she obviously means marriage, such thing as marriage, but is such a thing as the year itch and you've the seven year itch and you've been together for seven years. he's taking hint. he's not taking the hint. i think he's cheating on you. he's not that into you. look blimey, that's the last i my that's the last i let my mistress write into free speech nation. the wonderful nation. now, the wonderful leader of ukip, neil hamilton , leader of ukip, neil hamilton, was strangely honest about the make up of his party on my show on sunday. take a listen. maybe he should help you ukip. well, we of what i say . oh, come on, we of what i say. oh, come on, neil, spit it out. we are , as neil, spit it out. we are, as i say . come on, neil. tell me say. come on, neil. tell me about the party. who's in it? i'm on the edge of my seat. we are about to say , hey, a haven are about to say, hey, a haven for who've got all sorts of problems . we got there in the
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problems. we got there in the end. what a ringing endorsement for ukip membership . now we for ukip membership. now we heard from newly trained dr. leo kearse on the of the nhs earlier and this esteemed medic also an interesting take on the therapy. take a listen. the of wales she told the young people there that talking don't work for some people i reckon it's a scam. you just got somebody there. they're getting paid so they've got incentive to keep you coming back each week. so i'm not going to you. and therapy just to cure you. and therapy just goes years nothing goes on for years and nothing ever happens. yeah well, my wife's a therapist, and about. it definitely was all good. well, if you need help , are well, if you need help, are looking for a therapist, please do get in touch. email us at. josh is wife at gb news. dot uk. let's end on a really positive note . all fantastic national note. all fantastic national reporter has been out to take the pulse of the public regarding harry's new book. the words may be drivel, but at least there was one bit of good news for the prince. what's your
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first impression of the book? well, i like the picture, too. to be honest thought the picture is quite nice. it's well, well done. is quite nice. it's well, well done . she likes the pictures. done. she likes the pictures. well they do say you can never judge book by its cover. and those were your clips of the week . now those were your clips of the week. now this is an invitation to all eagle eyed viewers if you watch any foul ups any or any drama on gb news, then drop a line. mark@gbnews.uk and head your email clips the week and we may well feature something that you've seen out over the last seven days. coming up after the break, london mayor sadiq khan thinks brexit damaging the country and that we should consider rejoining the custom union and the single market. rupert only served as a brexit party member of the european parliament .
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next welcome back to mark dolan tonight . london mayor sadiq khan tonight. london mayor sadiq khan says can't keep quiet about the damage that brexit is doing to the country and that we should rejoining the customs union and the single market. so our members of the politico elite still trying to undo brexit. joining me to discuss this is the former brexit party member of the european parliament and former southampton football chairman, entrepreneur and broadcaster rupert lowe. hello, rupert's . evening. evening, rupert's. evening. evening, mark. happy new years. a joy to be on your show on a friday. well, it's great to have you back on the programme. happy new year to you as well. but it's an unhappy new year for those ramona's who won't let this go . ramona's who won't let this go. well again , this is an well again, this is an extraordinary sort of
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continuation . what's been going continuation. what's been going on really the british vote in 2016. and i'm with dan . it's 2016. and i'm with dan. it's about democracy and we had the vote. the british gave the verdict . despite david cameron's . vote. the british gave the verdict. despite david cameron's . 9 verdict. despite david cameron's. 9 that we should vote the other way. we didn't. and i think it's incumbent , way. we didn't. and i think it's incumbent, all of us, to not accept that vote, respect, democracy , forget the honest democracy, forget the honest bndge democracy, forget the honest bridge and the theresa may's , bridge and the theresa may's, all the people who tried to frustrate it, not least the civil servants behind , them who civil servants behind, them who arguably that running country rather than our elected politician . so i think sadiq politician. so i think sadiq khan on very dangerous ground ultimately is failing london in a big i think in london will be paying a big i think in london will be paying the price for many of his misguided policies for a long time to come. so i can't believe that we've we, the british people, are allowing our elected leaders to frustrate the will of
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the people , are ultimately their the people, are ultimately their political masters . well, indeed political masters. well, indeed and let's be clear that if we had the customs , that means no had the customs, that means no free, free, free trade deals , free, free, free trade deals, independent trade policy . if we independent trade policy. if we have the single market, that's movement that is . we can't now movement that is. we can't now go back . we've left the european go back. we've left the european union. we finally got the vote. we've left . i think it's we've left. i think it's interesting actually the establishment yet to really deliver brexit for the british people. they've actually they continue to frustrate it. we've still got these laws these 4000 or laws that need to be repealed and we still need to unleash the entrepreneurial spirit of the british people and haven't yet given brexit a proper chance in spite of that the british economy is doing well . the economy is doing well. the numbers today were encourage and i think what should be asking is not well, is our economy doing
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is how badly is europe's economy and how bad is likely do in the future? and the answer is europe is in an extremely position. we've got , you know, still fault we've got, you know, still fault lines from the euro . we have lines from the euro. we have italy, which is on by its fingernails. its huge indebted. and we've got the bundesbank now back in control of policy. so i think europe, despite the fact they spend a lot more on pr than us , the british always sort of us, the british always sort of the whipping boy . we are quietly the whipping boy. we are quietly doing very well and we haven't even unleashed brexit yet. so i think we made the right decision. i'm very comfortable with that and i hope that eventually our leaders will see sense and actually do what they were told to do . the british were told to do. the british people , and respect the vote , people, and respect the vote, deliver brexit and ultimate leigh, britain can still play a part in europe, but we'll play that part as an independent, democratic sovereign nation.
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well amen to that. i voted remain 2016, but unlike many i accepted the result, the very next day and i see colossal opportunities that brexit has brought and will continue bring. and you're right to raise concerns about the eurozone of possible sovereign debt crisis in the offing and lots of other problems , including a lack of problems, including a lack of democracy from brussels. however a con rupert not have a point to suggest that businesses, especially small businesses , are especially small businesses, are suffering as a result . brexit in suffering as a result. brexit in the short term we've heard of outlets that no longer export to the eu of the cost and the paperwork . well, again, i think paperwork. well, again, i think the paperwork's been made overly complicated mark, because i don't think either the europeans or our establishment actually want brexit. you find this, you do find they are all small businesses being frustrated. they're being frustrated to a far greater extent , though, i
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far greater extent, though, i think by the policies being pursued by jeremy irons and rishi sunak, they are not respected. they are an incredibly part of our economy . incredibly part of our economy. they are they're not striking . they are they're not striking. they are they're not striking. they are they're not striking. they are lumbered with regulation . they are required to regulation. they are required to collect taxes. whether that's pensions whether it's vat , pensions whether it's vat, whether it's income tax, they collect this huge amount of costs running a business in this country that all needs to be changed. and hopefully if we get some sensible leadership that can all be repealed , we can cut can all be repealed, we can cut loose the entrepreneurial spirit of the british people. but i don't think that's going to happen until we get some sensible people power. and unfortunately what we're watching, i think, is the slow decline of britain in many ways. that's very but but in some ways it's at least indicative of the fact that from the ashes of collapse can come actual change. so you know we're the civil
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service failing to deliver on its contract with the british people . we all pay our taxes. we people. we all pay our taxes. we expect for them to deliver the services they taxes for and charges for and insert themselves into our lives for. but all the businesses i'm operating in are being incredibly frustrate by the civil not delivering . they're civil not delivering. they're all working from home. they turn up at 930, they leave up for the work think is terrible and at the end of the day, that's far more damaging to british arguably than a few small rules which are frustrating our export and our imports. so i think there's a hell a lot that needs to change. my optimism is the that i know that the british people survive against all the odds and incredibly creative and a lot them are very hard working . what we now need is some
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proper leadership . well we have proper leadership. well we have to hope that we will see that in the form of rishi sunak do you think rishi sunak can make a success of brexit hit rupert well, i supported. rishi i know his wife very well. mark i was on the board of company with her. she's an absolutely charming person and i'm i like her very much. if i'm being honest. i've been slightly disappointed with rishi. i think is clever . i disappointed with rishi. i think is clever. i think he's very polished but i think the problem with rishi is he's young, young enough to be held in thrall by all civil , who ultimately are all civil, who ultimately are running the country. as i say maggie, maggie in her day got it right. she said advisers advise ministers decide the. problem is they only decide the civil service agree with them because it's almost impossible to carry out something unless you are
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supported by the infrastructure behind you actually enacts the policy that you decide upon. so what i'm saying is that the elected politicians are not able to deliver firstly because they're too inexperienced or they're too inexperienced or they don't have the strength of character to make , if you like, character to make, if you like, to land the punches need to in terms of if you're running a business you have to get your staff do what you want. and then the second thing is obviously the second thing is obviously the civil service. i am completely out of control. there are far too many of them. we indulged the what i call administrative bureaucracy of the country through qe , brought the country through qe, brought the country through qe, brought the qe, wouldn't wouldn't have been able to afford it . and now been able to afford it. and now you i think we need some strong leadership and we need to cut back on the number of bureaucrats and foster the number of so that we actually create wealth and we create jobs and. we create also opportunity for the british people, which
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ultimately how countries prosper . and of course, rupert, you are an esteemed entrepreneur. you mentioned surprisingly good news on the economy for november. it's a humble figure but economic growth of 0.1. what is your for the british economy this year ? i think we're heading this year? i think we're heading first to some very difficult times mark. i think what's happened that the of what i call carryover of bounce back loans we haven't heard the end of those yet. i don't the government is going to get many of those back. the symbols, lines, all of the largesse that . we threw it at the wrong people a lot of the time in dunng people a lot of the time in during this wretched, unnecessary lockdown. i think that's provided huge quantities of free money, which has kept the economy going . but i think the economy going. but i think going into next year, our economy is going to find that the wind that the sort of
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prevailing wind blowing against it. as i say, i think the europeans will suffer to a far greater extent than we will. but in the end , what we've got to in the end, what we've got to see is some form of stability . see is some form of stability. what we don't know, of course, is china's going to do because she'd down while we were suffering huge inflation populations, 1.5 billion aussies substantially around 70 million. if you believe the official figures, it's probably more . but figures, it's probably more. but at the end of the day, i think if china unlocks and she starts to unleash economic growth, what's that going to do to commodity prices , it going to do commodity prices, it going to do to supply chains , we just don't to supply chains, we just don't know. so there's a lot of uncertainty still but i think we are better than europe in terms being a sovereign democracy to manage our own currency your own manage our own currency your own economy. manage our own currency your own economy. so i'm i'm optimistic for britain to europe , but i'm for britain to europe, but i'm not optimistic for the global
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economy. i think the global economy. i think the global economy faces some huge headwinds . economy faces some huge headwinds. no buyers in relation to brexit. the great rupert lowe. thank you, rupert for joining us. we'll catch up again soon, of course, entrepreneur, former chairman of southampton fc mep as well . fascinating fc mep as well. fascinating conversation coming . up after conversation coming. up after the break. former royal bodyguard ken wharfe live in the studio for the final word on prince harry. and that book, see you .
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in two. welcome to mark dolan tonight. well, it's been the biggest story of the year so far, not cost of living, crisis or the war in ukraine, but the publication of that book. so get the final word on this right, soap opera from a man who knows the family intimately well. diana's former bodyguard khaled and bestselling author and royal
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ken wharfe . ken, great to have ken wharfe. ken, great to have you on the show to be here. you've had a bit of a skim read of the book. what are your first impressions? well my first impressions. i mean, this was a book that suddenly escaped the publishers and was sort of it's of escaped into spain and sneakier than a church . this sneakier than a church. this book is, of course. but what's interesting here is a book that you know, 1.5 million copies sold. you and the interview and all of this now gone throughout 77 territories throughout the world. i mean, i don't think there's ever been a biography it. and so yeah and i've read it as you said as best i can and there's a lot of history there about his military career, a lot about his military career, a lot about his military career, a lot about his mother and a lot about his early life, etc. which is, you readable but of you know, readable but of course, what everyone's picked up the information about his time in afghanistan . you know time in afghanistan. you know the sort of salacious stories about him losing his virginity and i sort . pub about him losing his virginity and i sort. pub car park near
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his father's house in gloucestershire and so forth which i think is sort of doesn't do him any service but i think particularly as bad was you know this notching up 25 kills in afghanistan the a lot of noted you know royal sort of military personnel both serving and have made you serious comments about that and i think that was a huge and that would be a headache for you if was in your care now if you if was in your care now if you were his bodyguard today you'd have a problem with that, wouldn't you? well, i think i think i would have a problem. and, you know, the fact that he's statement and he's made that statement and today's climate, you know, we have people from the taliban, you know , that i mean, social you know, that i mean, social media today is worldwide. it's so, so instant that that does pose threat, in my view. and you know, other security advisers said the same this week. and so it's not just for him, it's for other members of the family and possibly others serving. you know, and a sort of retired officer of the military as.
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well, because it was quite a serious thing to sort of notch up your kills. you know, as an army, in his case, an army officer which is being condemned by colleagues and other senior military personnel . so i by colleagues and other senior military personnel. so i think that was a big mistake. but the point, mark, here is that to write a book is one thing, but suddenly somebody with suddenly not have somebody with some to go through some expertise is to go through that you look, that copy with. you say, look, great maybe you know, tell great read, maybe you know, tell us about your life. whatever but this isn't a idea . this is this isn't a good idea. and sure you want to say and are you sure you want to say that about brother ? really that about your brother? really want this washing want to hear this washing publicly? think that publicly? and i think had that happen would have had happen maybe would have had a different yes. duty of different story. yes. a duty of care to himself, his family and the wider public . due diligence the wider public. due diligence and. and essentially, just as , and. and essentially, just as, say, fact checking a few things . you talked about his early years. you were there for many of his early years. did you recognise what he wrote about as to have been truth? i think there's a lot there that was truthful, but i mean, a lot that he didn't include in it. i mean, i think what was interesting as
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to children and you know , two to children and you know, two young boys, they had extraordinary life together . you extraordinary life together. you know, they were blissfully unaware the unhappiness of their respective parents, of course. but you know, they were privileged and. you know, they had a good time. harry was the joker of the pair of them and was by because of that was a very much more popular his brother. and there was a sort of but sibling rivalry there. you know, william was slightly jealous of his popular party, but up until up until point, of course, you know, was fairly course, you know, it was fairly normal battle. they had they enjoyed holidays together with their i think what's their mother. and i think what's interesting here is that, you know, he talks about fact know, he talks about the fact that his didn't too take that his father didn't too take interest he was young interest when he was that young . the prince was, . but of course, the prince was, you rather here you know, rather shrewd here because, although because, you know, although found it difficult that his wife at time had the lion's at that time had the lion's share upbringing, he share of their upbringing, he quick to realise that that actually , you know, his children actually, you know, his children were happier with her than they were happier with her than they were him . so you were with him. so you i understand that, but i think
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that up until the point when he married meghan and let's not forget at that point everyone in the entire world for what had a great beginning. now for, you know, a remodelling the monarchy to have, you know , prince and to have, you know, prince and his wife divorcee and an american , a woman, a mixed race american, a woman, a mixed race who for whatever it was, what everything expected , everybody everything expected, everybody wanted to move the monarchy into the 21st century and then suddenly , almost immediately, it suddenly, almost immediately, it collapsed . now we have this is collapsed. now we have this is biography. this is this book that really, i think just, sort of cements the end to this this piece of magic . and then, of piece of magic. and then, of course, in the wider context . course, in the wider context. now, looking at his father's coronation in may and everyone who talks about, you know , will who talks about, you know, will his son, you know, be invited. i knew the prince, the king reasonably well. and i work with diana he's a very caring man. he's a very thoughtful man . and he's a very thoughtful man. and he found it very difficult, you know, in that relationship with his wife all, the reasons we
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know. but one thing's for certain, he wanted william and harry to be part of his this direction , his new direction of direction, his new direction of reshaping the monarchy . and he's reshaping the monarchy. and he's lost that that third of that. but whether he won't uninvite , but whether he won't uninvite, harry, willy, of course he won't. you know. of course he won't. you know. of course he won't. and he won't strip. harry of his titles either. i no, i don't think so, because harry is a prince. he was born a prince. and therefore, i that's highly unlikely . and therefore, i that's highly unlikely. his and therefore, i that's highly unlikely . his father would be unlikely. his father would be disappointed with what's been said, brother as said, as with his brother as with current members, the with all current members, the british royal family. but as we all and, royal all know and, all the royal punst all know and, all the royal pundits keep saying the same they complain and they never, never complain and they never, never complain and they explain. and as with they never explain. and as with all things today, this will fade away, not necessarily oblivion, but the prince of a king knows how to say will find a way of moving forward. and i think actually keeping a respectful silence appears to be good for the profile of the king and the prince and princess of wales, whose popularity is now through the roof, here , the uk. the roof, at least here, the uk. what it is, i mean, you know ,
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what it is, i mean, you know, the king is being about in the last week, although despite dodging a few eggs that are being thrown him and william and kate, likewise . but, you know, kate, likewise. but, you know, this is just unfortunate and it's a great shame and how many, you know, royal commentators and how many of sort of people looked at this and said, why on earth did you need to hear this so publicly? know, you so publicly? you know, you cannot a reconciliation you know, and there's thing know, publicly and there's thing for certain his father and his brother, you know, would be willing to speak across the table wherever that might to table wherever that might be, to try resolve these matters. try and resolve these matters. it's all their interest, it's in all of their interest, but particularly in my but it's particularly in my view, in harry's interest to do that and is and indeed wife maybe has he in estimation because, you know, harry well, has he been shot at by markle? has he been brainwashed by this young. has he been brainwashed by this young . well, that's interesting young. well, that's interesting question, mark. i'm not so sure i can give you. is he under spell? she's a very beautiful and intelligent young woman. is he is he in thrall to her? well,
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i think that, you know, when you look at the wedding that and the pubuc look at the wedding that and the public events that followed , you public events that followed, you know, that that that event in nottingham and the event in london where, you know, she is a consummate actress, the consummate actress, the consummate publicly you could see look in her as i say hey this is look look look i've got this is look look look i've got this amazing. but where did it all fall apart ? and the point is all fall apart? and the point is that i thought that a complete, you know , that he didn't really you know, that he didn't really appreciate and never really expected whether he's completely under her control. i so many people say that she is i say that in all honesty, it seems to me that something is not quite with that relationship . does he with that relationship. does he look himself to you that when you watch those interviews, is that the harry knew i was when i see interview i mean look at the individual who had on this week you know he's quite confident but then he's had quite a good teacher last three four teacher the last three or four years. he's here years. but you know, he's here now tell his story and there
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now to tell his story and there seems to be no deviation from that. as happy though that. strike me as happy though i think he is i harry when i don't think he is i harry when you look at him up until point of his marriage was was the joker the most popular member of the even more the royal family even more popular that time the popular at that time than the late her majesty the late the late her majesty the queen. suddenly the queen. and then suddenly the popularity his popularity and her popularity is plummeted 2 to 2 levels that i don't think anybody. what how do you buy this idea that he was uncomfortable in the role of hence the name of his book being the spare royal that he would never become? king did have a sense knowing him, that this was an awkward, awkward position to be put into. well, do you think he enjoyed the role? i don't think that had a problem with think that he had a problem with that. would have that. why would he have a problem with that? you know, it's a gig, it? it's it's a good gig, isn't it? it's a guy. but look, everyone a great guy. but look, everyone well, they knew nothing about it. they knew who were from it. they knew who they were from day there, you know, day one. i went there, you know, was william five. was three. william was was five. they exactly who they they knew exactly who they wouldn't, know, travelling wouldn't, you know, travelling one another didn't one place to another didn't didn't to you didn't william used to say, you wait till king to certain
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wait till i'm king to certain people a very small people when he was a very small child. do you mean? what child. what do you mean? what a dumb. but of course, the classic phrase was i remember travelling with you know, with with both them, you know, to their to down highgrove, their father's house in gloucestershire. one day they'd already spat before already had a big spat before getting diana getting into the car. diana driving and the late olga powell, the nanny , was powell, the nanny, was refereeing this body that still continued in car on the way continued in the car on the way down. i think often on the m4, diana you carry diana said, look if you carry on, going back in a sort of on, i'm going back in a sort of parental you. stop it made it stop. and suddenly, harry leant across olga and said to william , it's all right for you. he said, you will one day and said, you will be one day and i won't. therefore i can do what i want. i never say, where the hell did he get that from? yeah, but the point is, that's exactly now he's . but i don't think now what he's. but i don't think being the spare was, was an issue him. not whatsoever. issue for him. not whatsoever. so. actually we've seen know so. so actually we've seen know allegations in the book of william attacking harry him knocking him to the floor . william attacking harry him knocking him to the floor. has it always been a personality clash between these two young men? do they not get on? do they
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love each other ? well, i can't love each other? well, i can't speak for the clash , as i call speak for the clash, as i call it, in the cottage where he sort of fractured the dog. but the jungle in the rumble, what you put, you know, i just don't think that the look he is he they as brothers you know we're always scrapping like you know , always scrapping like you know, i did with my brothers. i'm sure you did with you i have to say i think that's a bit of a no. so when you when you witnessed when they were small, it was par for they were small, it was par for the exactly? partly because the what exactly? partly because i that's i think that's that's fairly normal. think, you normal. i mean, i think, you know, as adults, you clearly there are disagreements daily. william is happy things william is not happy with things harry is and probably harry is doing and probably harry is doing and probably harry happy what harry is not happy with what william of who william was doing because of who they you know, it becomes they are, you know, it becomes pubuc they are, you know, it becomes public that's public because that's what happens and, know, i can't happens. and, you know, i can't tell you the for that tell you the reason for that argument , no tell you the reason for that argument, no more than i can actually tell or discuss with you. you know, the allegations of within royal . i of racism within the royal. i don't this is a very don't know that this is a very personal question , personal and emotive question, but do you think that there is love there, though between the brothers notwithstanding current frictions? think
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frictions? i actually think there is a love there because i think harry very much to be part of this new monarchy. that was always his his desire, although was the spare. he always had a role to play. his father identified that, you know, you're there as a reserve, if you're there as a reserve, if you like to. the work of his brood have been the rock prince wouldn't have thought he would and entertaining. he was and he's entertaining. he was fun. people like that fun. yeah people like that in him, you he did speak like him, you know, he did speak like other he was, you you're other roles. he was, you you're cocky rebel really almost would like to be like like prince philip this could have philip to the this could have been relationship with been harry's relationship with the errant entertaining the king the errant entertaining brother a quick word on aspects of the book that focus on what in paris the death of diana and well prince harry turning your thoughts . well, in his book, he thoughts. well, in his book, he says that he was concerned about, you know, the death of his mother. that was a huge shock to him for all the reasons that we can all understand, that you know he loved his mother .
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you know he loved his mother. you know, his mother loved him. of course , there was a you know, of course, there was a you know, a interesting relationship there, which i witnessed. and it was very lovely to see it and the death of his at an age he was 13 must have become a terrible shock. and the fact that he then through duty had to walk behind a coffin to westminster abbey and so, you know, it crops up a lot in this this book and notably of the death in paris. and he wanted to rerun what really did happen in that tunnel which is which is understandable but quite bizarre in some you know, believes you know, adamantly the press the media killed her, which, of course, you know, they may well have been a contributory factor in a very way, but there were reasons why you his mother died and she died because of the incompetence of the protection team that wasn't from scotland yard, you know, that were policing her at that particular time . but for him to experience time. but for him to experience that journey and down the tunnel at speeds that he said was the
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same as when his mother was driving, he could find no real reason why, you know, that should have gone going to collided with the 13th pillar what he doesn't mention of course the actual driver that car was nearly 3.5 times over the drink drive limit. yeah and that's all i can on your watch can diana would be with us today a privilege have you in the studio. we know you've got lots opinions on politics on and the economy lots of other issues. so i believe you're going to accept an invitation to join us on the panel an invitation to join us on the panel. say that'd be great. of all other that ken wolf all the other that ken wolf thinks, i'm ken so much for helping us put a full stop on that sorry royal saga . after the that sorry royal saga. after the break, i'll be joined by a superstar. it's brilliant world title winning boxer ebony bridges and she won't be pulling her punches when she tells us why sex, sport. go together. find more after this .
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let me tell that this is mark dolan tonight and. it's a very busy three hour show from 9:00. all of your favourite element elements in the programme we've got more meets. we've got the big opinion got my take big opinion and we got my take at ten. it might a ten. at ten. it might take a ten. i'll be dealing a battle the wall between warburtons and waitrose over crumpets. more on that after ten and in my big opinion at nine. the church of england goes woke. more on that shortly . but first australian shortly. but first australian sports star ebony bridges is , sports star ebony bridges is, one of the biggest names in boxing nicknamed the blonde bomber . she boxing nicknamed the blonde bomber. she was an outstanding amateur before moving on to conquer the professional. and she is the current ibf bantamweight world champion. bridges has also raised eyebrows with her provocative outfits at weigh ins and alongside her boxing career. she has an extremely popular account on
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onlyfans, so ebony joins me now. hi, ebony , great to have you on hi, ebony, great to have you on the show . hi, how are you? hi, ebony, great to have you on the show. hi, how are you? i'm really well. and congratulations on all of your sporting achievements to date, many viewers would wonder why you have an only fans account given the fact that you're so big in boxing boxing . well, you know boxing boxing. well, you know what the thing is as onlyfans is becoming more and more popular amongst athletes and just influencers in, general, you know, because what it is us as a as a sportsperson from i'm talking about myself, me i'm a brand. boxing my career, my brand. boxing my career, my brand is my career. my name is my career . so brand is my career. my name is my career. so i'm going to make money off my name. right? i'm going to make money off who i am. so instead of just only making money in boxing, i can go in on onlyfans. i can have exclusive content for fans who enjoy what i see as whatever
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they , you know, all the stuff they, you know, all the stuff that's not on your media, you know, because it's like a job, right? it's a job. so i show all behind the scenes boxing , right? it's a job. so i show all behind the scenes boxing, i right? it's a job. so i show all behind the scenes boxing , i show behind the scenes boxing, i show a lot more training . i show, you a lot more training. i show, you know , of course, more than just, know, of course, more than just, you know, you go the ins people are going to get to see me, you know, being a bit more sexy in my weigh ins , which like two my weigh ins, which is like two or a year. so they or three times a year. so they get to my own fantasy get to go my own fantasy a little bit more skin of me and i get to talk to all my fans one on one. you know, i like to sit in on only fans and chatting to my fans but you got to remember you know as an as a celebrity or an athlete that's your job you know to be your to be a know to be your name to be a brand. so, of course, you're going make want to go home going to make me want to go home to make money off it. so for those that don't know ebony only fans subscription service fans is a subscription service and people pay a certain amount every month and they get exclusive access to you. so photograph updates, videos bits of information this and that that you won't find anywhere
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else . yeah. yeah exactly . so else. yeah. yeah exactly. so everything that's on my own depends like i'm not a big blogger on on, you know, instagram for me , it's just instagram for me, it's just work, you know, it's just my i promote my boxing, promote the goals of my on my social media and, you know, on just things on there like business wise but with onlyfans more exclusive , with onlyfans more exclusive, it's more behind the scenes stuff. it's more like i'm doing at home or, you know, behind the scenes in boxing or just, you know, before i go out and like all this kind of stuff. so, and i get to chat, to my fans, you know, somewhere i can chat to them and, you know, in there them and, you know, go in there and myself spend my time, you and i myself spend my time, you know, day where i can get know, in the day where i can get to know my fans and they can get to know my fans and they can get to know my fans and they can get to know me because they're paying to know me because they're paying you know, and paying to, you know, and supporting me supporting my and supporting me as give back in that as fans. so i give back in that sense well, know, and you sense as well, you know, and you know, there's plenty of people doing you got to doing it. you know, you got to doing it. you know, you got to do even derek chisora is doing, you devonyae hackney you know, devonyae hackney the men it as but of men are doing it as well but of course it comes to women course when it comes to women
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doing, of looked doing, it, it's kind of looked frowned upon. but because of obviously adult industry obviously adult adult industry that's the thing that's related it. but the thing is, is , you know, onlyfans is, is, you know, onlyfans trying to mainstream a little bit more and you'll see lot more athletes and a lot more sports stars, a lot more celebrities getting on onlyfans because it's very exclusive content, you know and we have a right as well worked hard in our careers to make more money i think you know and that's pretty much what it is it's job it's business you know. and if you're smart, do it in forever. you run around forever, you get paid profiles, you you run , your career on your you you run, your career on your own terms . do you regret there's own terms. do you regret there's not more money in boxing so that you don't have to do ? yeah, for you don't have to do? yeah, for sure. i mean, especially for us women. is not much in boxing, not much money in. it you know what i mean? how much we sacrifice and how much we put in is nowhere near the levels of . is nowhere near the levels of. my brand , my name of where it's my brand, my name of where it's out, i'm getting nowhere near
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men that's over. equal, you know what i mean? but at the same time, it's not like i regret doing it. i enjoy doing onlyfans, i enjoy talking to my fans. having exclusive fans. i enjoy having exclusive content and that content and filming and all that kind of stuff. it's, it's just another thing. me, you know, like, why because i'm like, it's why just because i'm a boxer , do i just have to train a boxer, do i just have to train in the gym and box? yeah. why can't right why i do can't it? right why can't i do everything else? why? i everything else? like, why? i just do that that's just have to do that and that's it. go to boxing or it. i just go to boxing or whatever especially whatever, especially now i'm going in hand. i want going to break in hand. i want to do i can't even train, you know what happened to your hands, ebony i busted my hand in a but my last fight made it a lot worse . you should see lot worse. you should see another girl in face. you know what , i mean, yeah, but, you what, i mean, yeah, but, you know, you see hands bad. you can see the face. i broke it. right? right. so no, she's. yeah so it's just out of it's is an ongoing that i've had better get really bad spot so i've decided that i've had to bite the bullet and get the surgery i've taken hip bone of my hip to put
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diffuse my joints my hand so i'll be out for quite a while. i won't be fighting till after some. again no money, some. so that's again no money, no fights, you know. so what am i sit back and put on i gonna do, sit back and put on my thumbs, go get a normal in a bar, like, you know what i mean? so it's just, you know, it's like i go to i've got to use what got. ijust like i go to i've got to use what got. i just think it's what i got. i just think it's a great so just great great platform. so just great platform athletes and platform for athletes and celebrities to, you celebrities be able to, you know, obviously work in their career and build that great is great the fans know great for the fans you know because like gives also more because like it gives also more incentive well to get to know incentive as well to get to know the fans and get to show a little bit more as well. you've got to understand people get upset like you're upset or you know, like you're making fans pay to you making your fans pay talk to you to that's your job to say, well, that's your job man like like it's our job like man like like it's ourjob like this is our job thing. being a this is ourjob thing. being a sportsman, being a celebrity, like what that's like that's that's what that's our so yeah. going to ourjob. so yeah. we're going to get like. you would go get paid like. like you would go to a work absolute to work. it's a work absolute e right. well, i'm sure we've boosted your fans numbers tonight. do you think i should do ebony could do only fans. ebony you could definitely do only fans is there's people everything .
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there's people for everything. all right, right. i'll take all right, all right. i'll take it. i'll take that the right way. listen wish you a speedy recovery and. can't wait to see you back in ring. one of my absolute sporting ebony are thrilled you on the thrilled to have you on the thank so much i appreciate thank you so much i appreciate you guys have a good evening . you guys have a good evening. the bridges, he the fabulous ebony bridges, he thinks should do only fans thinks i should do only fans would use 50 a year would that be worth it. i'll take my tie off and everything in a few minutes time in my big opinion monologue, church of england monologue, the church of england use monologue, the church of england us e £100 million to apologise use £100 million to apologise for slavery . yes, welby has lost for slavery. yes, welby has lost the plot and my mark meets is the plot and my mark meets is the brilliant comedian steve nolan, the actor and impressionist who of course, was margaret thatcher in the eighties. a brilliant coming my big opinions next don't go anywhere .
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manchester city footballer benjamin mendy has been found not guilty on six counts of rape and one kind of sexual assault. five women. however, the france international faces a retrial on one kind of rape and one kind of attempted rape afterjury failed to reach verdicts after a five month trial at chester crown court. his retrial for those two counts has been scheduled for june. counts has been scheduled for june . the labour leader, sir june. the labour leader, sir keir starmer, is urging the prime minister to resolve the northern ireland protocol dispute as a matter of urgency . dispute as a matter of urgency. sir keir says if rishi sunak a deal to solve problems with the post—brexit trading arrangements labour will provide the political support to get it through parliament. so i say to the prime minister , if there is the prime minister, if there is a deal , do in the prime minister, if there is a deal, do in coming weeks , do a deal, do in coming weeks, do it . whatever political cover you it. whatever political cover you need , whatever mechanisms in need, whatever mechanisms in westminster you require . if it
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westminster you require. if it delivers for our national and the people of northern, we support you . the time for action support you. the time for action on the protocol is now . the on the protocol is now. the threat of strike action in scotland's nhs has been put on hold while negotiations take place on a new pay offer for this. the unions say fresh with the scottish government are expected to start next week with any deal reached backdated to this month, january. the royal college of nursing and the gmb union rejected a pay offer in november , which is worth on november, which is worth on average around seven and a half % the first minister, nicholas sturgeon says every possible step will be taken to help nhs . step will be taken to help nhs. donald trump's company has been fined donald trump's company has been fine d £13 million for a number fined £13 million for a number of tax crimes, including conspiracy. criminal fraud and falsifying business records. the former president didn't go on trial himself and denied any knowledge his . former executives knowledge his. former executives illegally evaded paying tax over a 15 year period. however, the
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trump organisation was convicted for 17 counts of tax fraud last month . rescue teams are month. rescue teams are searching for survivors after a series of tornadoes swept through the south of the us. killing at least nine people. seven of those deaths have been reported in alabama, which was hit by at least five twisters, leaving tens , thousands of leaving tens, thousands of people without power . emergency people without power. emergency officials, though , expect the officials, though, expect the death toll to rise . people death toll to rise. people across england are being warned to brace themselves for more extreme weather over the coming days. the environment agency has issued 81 flood warnings, mostly in the west and the south—west of england. and sunday, the north, the midlands and central and eastern parts the country are expected to be hit by cold, icy and possibly heavy . tv icy and possibly heavy. tv online and debate plus radio. this is gb news. now it is back to mark dolan tonight.
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my thanks to aron who returns in an hour's time. my thanks to aron who returns in an hour's time . welcome to mark an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion monologue in a moment, the church of england use monologue in a moment, the church of england us e £100 church of england use £100 million to apologise for slavery. woke welby lost the plot in the big question after the bbc released a ten part shamima begum podcast. i'll be asking should we forgive terrorists? shamima papers lawyer is on the show . leave my lawyer is on the show. leave my mark meets guest is the hilarious margaret thatcher impersonator and spitting image. it starts nolan and he might it. ten why have waitrose stopped stocking warburtons crumpets. i'll be a side in the bread plus in the news agenda. all brit awards guilty of misogyny for ditching the female category . is ditching the female category. is it time to step out smoking for good and all parents for the behaviour their grown up
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children. reacting to these stories and many on my fantastic panel tonight of journalist and the star of gb news breakfast stephanie takyi former adviser to johnson, political commentator , cover, arranger and commentator, cover, arranger and actor and best selling author, dr. lisa mackenzie. i want to hear from you throughout the show market. gibney what uk and this has a golden rule we don't do boring. not on my watch i just won't have it. so for the next 2 hours, big debates, big guests and always big opinions. but before we start let me tell you that a very strange reason. over last couple of weeks, i've spent a lot of time in hospitals , family members , knocks and , family members, knocks and scrapes and bruises and a couple of broken bones as well . and as of broken bones as well. and as i've always said , i've always said, notwithstanding the bureaucratic challenges of the nhs the staff are incredible . so a very big are incredible. so a very big shout out to whittington hospital and the charity cross hosphal hospital and the charity cross hospital, who have been amazing
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to my and a special shout out june ray and anne in clinic one day i was at one p. oh god i'm glad i'm not a doctor. i think it's clinic one big thanks for a great job they patched us all back up and ready to go let's get cracking . good god . the get cracking. good god. the allegedly cash strapped of england have found 100 million quid down the back of the sofa to apologise for slavery . the to apologise for slavery. the sum was announced by. justin welby, the archbishop canterbury, after a commission church investments concluded that some of their wealth accumulated after initial investment with the south sea company. at the time traded in slaves, the fund is to pay for a programme of investment research and engage ment and to help communities affected by historic slavery . now slavery is in view
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slavery. now slavery is in view up there with genocide as the most egregious crime in history . but is it the church of england's job to expend their energy and precious donations to atone for it, particularly the scale of the sea of links to slavery is challenged this week by top historian robert tombs, co—editor of history reclaimed , co—editor of history reclaimed, who this week wrote in the telegraph . in their evident to telegraph. in their evident to make a splash, those have both engaged stated the church involvement with slavery and rather more reprehensible exaggerate . it their own exaggerate. it their own response today how un—christian . the history of all empires is stained by the blood and tears of human suffering. but we're seeing here in this policy is the kind of hand—wringing piety that has infected so many of our great institutions, like museums
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the arts and now the of england. selfless insulating hair, shirt wearing bashing has become a national pastime, particularly enjoyed by the powerful elites . enjoyed by the powerful elites. it's all part of a narrative that the uk is dreadful country with a shameful now , slavery was with a shameful now, slavery was shameful , but with a shameful now, slavery was shameful, but britain led with a shameful now, slavery was shameful , but britain led the shameful, but britain led the world in tackling it and bringing it to an end . i went to bringing it to an end. i went to a big museum recently to look at an early steam engine prototype . i know how to live , but a sign . i know how to live, but a sign next to it linked to this miraculous device to our colonial past. it's a steam engine . can't we just enjoy its engine. can't we just enjoy its majesty and marvel at a great british innovation ? now, of british innovation? now, of course, we must learn about slavery at school and beyond. absolutely. and never repeats that evil crime again. but this fund set up by welby as church
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creek homelessness spirals and parishioners struggle with the cost of living is , also a nod to cost of living is, also a nod to the idea of reparations. although the church are keen to stress it . no such thing stress it. no such thing interest from this fund will go to impacted communities overseas. well, whether it's reparations or not. sounds like semantics to me. why parishioners already on their knees pay for the crimes of the past. where do you start with that can of worms? should we hit the swedes up for a few billion quid based upon the behaviour of the vikings? should young germans who have only read about second world war pay reparations for that ? and if you're going to for that? and if you're going to slavery, why not deal with the slavery, why not deal with the slavery that's happening right. now, as demonstrated in this brilliant new book, cop out. read how the blood of the congo powers our lives by siddhartha carra. this book reveals thousands of children and
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teenagers right now. today are working 12 hour shifts knee deep in mud mining for lithium and other precious elements , all to other precious elements, all to support the green agenda, of which the ever write on just wellbeing is such a fan . this wellbeing is such a fan. this increasingly faith leader has made pronouncements on the plan to relocate seekers as their applications are processed . he's applications are processed. he's pronounced on net zero and every other contentious bandwagon . now other contentious bandwagon. now the church of england would argue . they are serving god's argue. they are serving god's will in the fight against evil, of which slavery is a perfect . of which slavery is a perfect. if the church has amassed a fortune off the back of human suffering, it's understandable how they wish to recognise that . and i guess welby thinks it's un—christian to destroy the planet , curtail un—christian to destroy the planet, curtail human right, human rights in relation to the government's border policy. i understand all of . but in understand all of. but in
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relation to the hundred million quid on non reparations . quid on non reparations. reparations where is this money coming from. as are being laid off as parishes merge to save cash and his church buildings fall into disrepair. as the telegraph's cartoonist blower pointed this week, the church roof appeal has been replaced by the historic apology fund . why the historic apology fund. why wasn't the archbishop more vocal in his criticism of, in my view, the deeply un—christian covid measures as healthy people were locked in their homes ? as locked in their homes? as funerals became a socially distanced farce and churches closed their doors to parishioners at a time when they needed their faith more ever. now, of course, the church didn't make the rules. i'll grant you . lockdowns were grant you. lockdowns were a matter of law. but given the societal , matter of law. but given the societal, human and economic damage from what in my opinion was failed experiment to stop a why was welby that occasion so deafeningly silent? if i'd been
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a cleric , i'd have been a cleric, i'd have been campaigning to keep churches as well as schools open the whole time . i'm not well as schools open the whole time. i'm not a well as schools open the whole time . i'm not a cleric, of time. i'm not a cleric, of course . i'm far too sinful. they course. i'm far too sinful. they wouldn't have me anyway . in my wouldn't have me anyway. in my view. well 100 million quid fund to say sorry . the past has the to say sorry. the past has the strong whiff woke about it? a divisive ideology that threatens the future of this great institution . welcome to the institution. welcome to the modern new look. plant—based church of england 2.0. may god forgive them . not a spokesperson forgive them. not a spokesperson forgive them. not a spokesperson for the church commissioner of england has said we recognise this investment comes at a time when there are significant financial challenges for many people and churches and when the church has commitments address other wrongs from our past. we will continue to support these groups and remain committed to existing obligations. in
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groups and remain committed to existing obligations . in 2022, existing obligations. in 2022, we announced a 30% increase in our funding . the church of our funding. the church of england, which will amount to £12 england, which will amount to £1.2 billion in the next three years. so what do you think? do you agree? do you disagree? have the church gone woke? should the church effectively divert funds to communities impacted historic slavery? let me know mark@gbnews.uk. i'll get your emails shortly, but reacting to that and all the big stories of the day, my panel journalist stephanie techy, former advisor bofis stephanie techy, former advisor boris johnson, political commentator , kaba, arranger and commentator, kaba, arranger and best selling author and academic dr. lisa mackenzie. stephanie, let me start with you. what's your view of this arguably atoning for crimes of the past. sounds like a very christian thing to do. no, i don't agree with it, marc, because of the christian fundamental teachings is that we not keep no records of wrongs. and that includes slavery as well. and while slavery as well. and while slavery is a very sensitive
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subject to me as a black person, i think there's other ways that these communities could be , you these communities could be, you know, offered some sort of compassion or forgiveness . and compassion or forgiveness. and this is not the time when we're to a current cost of living crisis where you want to be donating crisis where you want to be donatin g £100 million to a cause donating £100 million to a cause like this. that could be going towards some of the members and helping them their energy bills , any kind of will problems they're going through. and i just don't this is it. i think this is a bit distasteful of the church actually and i think it's a little bit too late. black for a little bit too late. black for a very long time. have alex phillips. but it's not in terms of financial gain. it's more terms of accepting it and don't think it has to be something that. you have to throw your chequebook. well, i suppose the issue, stephanie, is that the moral case for reparations is a strong but it's just a practical headache. how the hell do you do it? where would you start? it is a very one, but i just don't think now is the time to be
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throwing the money at it. to be honest, it's a very ongoing, long situation and trying to make repairs for slavery and for different communities , different different communities, different black people. it's to be in different ways. i think some black people just want people to be educated on racism. but in terms of throwing money at times it just leaves a very sour taste in my mouth. cool. the arranger i. suppose the archbishop feels burdened by the wealth of the church and, the nature of how they got there, how they amassed billions. and that's why he wants to do something about it. well there's sounds, it seems to me, a certain amount of guilt and that that might be for the archbishop and for church. but really, what do people for from religious institutions and the church and i think they look for spiritual guidance. they look for comfort , as you say, mark, for comfort, as you say, mark, at times of great need. they don't generally look for money and think that's the conflation here . you know, as you said, here. you know, as you said, it's very hard to start to
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saying, well, how much is a worth? i believe hidden history should be acknowledged. mistakes of the past be recognised, but i think the institution needs to then play its role. and its role is of spiritual guidance, of comfort and fundamentally also deaung comfort and fundamentally also dealing with its own house. if the roof needs to be fixed, if the roof needs to be fixed, if the church needs to have its infrastructure , if it needs to infrastructure, if it needs to deal with its and support them, do it now and do it well. i think acknowledge your mistakes. but as said, this is not a chequebook spirituality. this is about actually helping people cover. about actually helping people cover . briefly, about actually helping people cover. briefly, if about actually helping people cover . briefly, if you can, you cover. briefly, if you can, you a former adviser to boris johnson. you know how politicians . do you think the politicians. do you think the archbishop is too political these days? i think both you and ihave these days? i think both you and i have sort of mentioned him per se, it seems to be his own sort of leadership style as much anything else. i think he has stepped into the political realm. i think, know, realm. i think, you know, a certain infamous spin doctor said before , you know, about said before, you know, about prime ministers don't do religion. well, religion do politics. it's as we say, to
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give guides in a spiritual form to individual when they need it, when they want it, when they're looking for that, they don't want political opinions and current in vogue fads to be the things they're hearing from the pulpit. all the actions that they're probably religious institutions are taking. lisa mackenzie lost a colossal of inequality and poverty in our country, which you've been very, very importantly highlighting since . you began your since. you began your appearances on gb news and long before that you'd like to see major changes in our society. but what's your view about this move from the. well, i'm another case i'm an atheist, so , you case i'm an atheist, so, you know, i suppose my take on this going to be completely different. the of england is extremely wealthy institution . extremely wealthy institution. if it's got guilt towards things that it's invested in the past, then like let like blood let that go to it. that's what it wants to do regarding the church
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and sort of fixing its roof and you, the british society , not a you, the british society, not a sea of a country. so you, the british society, not a sea of a country . so perhaps, sea of a country. so perhaps, you know, this this that is going to sort of spread around. perhaps it might do some good . perhaps it might do some good. think it might be something god . stephanie said, you know by education, some of this money could perhaps go different communities and help with education programs on history. you know on hidden history, on colonial history and on also on the history around class . the history around class. because one of the things that we have to remember with these sort of reparations loans is the british working class did not benefit from those atrocities of our colonial past. benefit from those atrocities of our colonial past . you know, we our colonial past. you know, we were also the british class was also part of an oppressed group as well . so i think, you know, as well. so i think, you know, perhaps church of england's money could some good in some our communities and regarding and the cost of living is that
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should be really be put in the door of any religion institution. you know that's about our society and it's about finally and it's about politicians . so i don't as an politicians. so i don't as an anarchist and as an atheist i don't want religion, religious institutions or even charities to think that they are responsible for society's ills, which are obvious, which mostly are caused by politicians and financial systems indeed say, well look, my brilliant panel returned shortly . the news returned shortly. the news agenda, all the brit awards guilty of misogyny ditching the female category . also, is it female category. also, is it time to step out smoking for good and all parents responsible for the behaviour of grown up children? i do hope my not watching my mom meets is the incredible comedy impression is the legendary steve nolan, who of course was famous for his margaret thatcher in the eighties but next up in the big
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question should forgive terrorists. see you shortly shortly .
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has the church of england gone woke big response to my big monologue. hi. mark says it's not a surprise to me that. the church of england could find a huge church of england could find a hug e £10 billion to spend on huge £10 billion to spend on such a load of cobblers. as i recently learned that the church has which has an endowment which originated queen anne originated from queen anne that's reportedly worth around 6 billion. so the next time they rattle tin for rattle a collection tin for a leaky they can their own leaky they can spend their own money. derek hi , mark, money. derek hi, mark, stephanie, your panellist . stephanie, your panellist. absolutely right. archbishop welby appears to confuse christianity with socialism. i do not agree with his action and i am an active member of the church of england. keep those emails coming. market gb news dot uk. it's time now for this.
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yes, it's time for the question in which we tackle a major news of the day. this week the bbc's have produced a podcast series , have produced a podcast series, shamima begum, a british citizen who travelled to the middle east to join isis. she has since expressed regret. regrets that this decision and although she has not been linked with terror attacks, many find it unconscionable that the beeb should be doing a profile of this woman. however, she was young and impressionable and would argue she is no longer a danger to society. so tonight's big question should we forgive terrorists ? those who get terrorists? those who get involved with them to debate this i'm delighted to welcome shamima begum , lawyer, criminal shamima begum, lawyer, criminal defence solicitor tasnim akanji and charlotte littlewood, who is and charlotte littlewood, who is a henry jackson fellow and former counter extreme ism coordinator . first of all, coordinator. first of all, tasnim, thank you very much for joining us in the studio. what's your view about big question,
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should we forgive terrorists or those that get involved , them ? those that get involved, them? well, first of all, just to clarify what mean the victims families lawyer says to be clear in terms of forgetting this , we in terms of forgetting this, we have a criminal justice which levies accusations against, people who are accused and then evidence to bear that those people can judged by a jury of their peers . generally, those their peers. generally, those people if they are found guilty of, then and they serve sentence after which they're rehabilitated in society generally, the process that we as a civilised society use to punish those who've committed crimes. that entire system is being actively disengaged . being actively disengaged. shamima begum so idea is to as a society do we, we forgive people, we generally do. depends how heinous crimes are , but we how heinous crimes are, but we do it through a formal process under the rule of law. and all
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complaints here that that's simply not being applied in case. thank you for the that you are the family's lawyer . do case. thank you for the that you are the family's lawyer. do you think that the media have demonised this young . well demonised this young. well i think that anyone who's joined a terrorist organisation has has a certain amount of negativity their way. the question the scope of that now in terms what's been the reporting on overall? i think it's evolved? i think when she left at 15, the british public and the reporting on this was generally quite sympathetic . how do you bring sympathetic. how do you bring a young schoolgirl back ? but since young schoolgirl back? but since we've had a, you know, a different approach in government , particularly after such as decision, the reporting on this has changed lot. it may well be unked has changed lot. it may well be linked to, unfortunately , linked to, unfortunately, horrific events in the uk like the ariana grande bombing, which was attributed to islamic extremists and individuals that were convicted of that . now
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were convicted of that. now a horror like that happening on uk soil certainly change attitudes of the public and it will no don't change the approach that the press would take but we don't believe in trial by media. we believe in trial by jury. don't believe in trial by media. we believe in trial by jury . and we believe in trial by jury. and again that's where we return back. again that's where we return back . we've just been talking back. we've just been talking a little bit about the church of england and about christiane . england and about christiane. it's obviously a christian to forgive. is it time do just that with terror ists and those that get involved with them ? to be get involved with them? to be honest , get involved with them? to be honest, mark, i think it's absolutely perverse that we are even thinking about whether or not we have any rights in the forgiveness of shamima begum and anyone who showed sympathy or support for isis , those that support for isis, those that have the right to answer question as to whether or she can be forgiven . absolutely. can be forgiven. absolutely. tragically, in numbers no longer with us or displaced and
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hundreds of thousands, 3000 yazidis are still missing . on yazidis are still missing. on thecable human atrocity cruelty and burning people alive. beheadings with with kitchen knives as we well shamima begum aware as well of this kind of brutality she left. interestingly in the bbc's first episode really does give us that insight that she was she was aware of beheadings and she what she was going to join before she left. so i think we cannot be so to assume we have any right to begin to talk about forgiveness here is for the victims and the victims alone. and whether or not she should be seen in the light of victimhood and groomed and this platform is something that i think is wholly
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irresponsible of the bbc and playing a victim narrative, which is a part of the problem and part of the grievance that the very nature of what can lead people to become radicalised. tasnim yes. this young knew about beheadings. tasnim yes. this young knew about beheadings . tasnim sorry, about beheadings. tasnim sorry, i think that's an issue with the line this young woman knew about the beheadings. could we possibly forgive ? when we say possibly forgive? when we say young woman. but she was, of course, a child when she went who was by all accounts groomed and trafficked. so again, the issue of shamima begum is somewhat different to many others who those as mature adults and made adult. of course she was quote unquote married under under the to a ceremony within two weeks of her return landing syria and she was a 15 year old girl who was married quote unquote to a 23 year old dutch year old dutch national. now, in anyone's under the holland or uk that would be
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considered statutory rape and the reason for that is because under our laws , a 15 year old under our laws, a 15 year old cannot give consent to a sexual intercourse with an adult . now, intercourse with an adult. now, up until principle, the arguments being deployed against so that she had somehow the culpability despite being groomed to have made the decision to go to syria but yet didn't the wherewithal under the law to give consent to having sex the 23 year old. so you can't have both ways you can't say that. well, she's not responsible . and therefore, mr. responsible. and therefore, mr. jago is a by definition . well, jago is a by definition. well, similar tunisia saying but on another footing she had absolutely the thinking required to make the decision to join a terrorist organisation . and it's terrorist organisation. and it's interesting that that one says that you know the victims isis and absolutely true the victims of isis are the ones can forgive ice's . the question is what did ice's. the question is what did shamima begum . what are her and
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shamima begum. what are her and certainly nothing has been attributed in terms of any sort violence or anything to her. so, charlotte, what are this if the argument is the argument is that by joining an organisation you are for the crimes the organisation will then we will have to ask the kenyans whether they will forgive britain for , they will forgive britain for, beheading their people. british soldiers beheading kenyans in the middle rebellion in the 60. so you know, the same applies on both. charlotte let's go back to this bbc podcast. i'm say when it was announced, i thought it was an unedifying spectacle. and i do feel that. there are parts of the media that have rather romanticised the image of shamima glossing over as you say some of the material that she was willingly exposed to or at least i mean obviously tasnim mentioned that she was groomed and trafficked but . she was
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and trafficked but. she was aware of these most egregious crimes that were being played out. however don't we all want to understand it came from learn about her. so all the cases can be prevented . i think the be prevented. i think the question is more , don't we want question is more, don't we want to learn and understand from the victims ? learn and understand victims? learn and understand and hear from those families that have had lost people and those that are still displaying . i mean, we are very, very with the comments , her being a child, the comments, her being a child, but we saw an interview and no one will forget from her 19 years old saying that she was not regretting any of her decisions to join the islamic state, that she is glad she joined because she her husband and if she had not joined , she and if she had not joined, she would not have met her husband
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as she would not have met a man like him, an isis fighter, a man like him, an isis fighter, a man like him, an isis fighter, a man like him anywhere else . and like him anywhere else. and shamima begum was shown showed no remorse and continues to show no remorse and continues to show no remorse and continues to show no remorse for the ideology she signed up for. she seemed to show regret that the caliphate had fallen and that she was then in an uncomfortable position , in an uncomfortable position, didn't have access, apparently, to mint chocolate . but she very to mint chocolate. but she very much said that she'd seen beheadings , knew about the beheadings, knew about the beheadings. she still came . beheadings. she still came. she'd seen heads , bins and was she'd seen heads, bins and was unfazed . manchester bombings , unfazed. manchester bombings, she said, was legitimate because it was a response to the attacks on syria and her opinions at as an adult. well and clearly a threat to national security the time that's why she had a citizenship revoked. so i find it strange that still talk about how considerations here 15 we knew how considerations at 19
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tasnim you no remorse . well it's tasnim you no remorse. well it's interesting because charlotte is saying that well it's abhorrent that she's being platformed, but it's quite happy to take snippets of parts of a story from the media and sticks them together to form a narrative. so i don't see we should take snippets and not hear a much more fulsome account, but so but the snippets she has were taken an interview given by shamima begum while she was in al—hol refugee camp, surrounded by order . isis refugee camp, surrounded by order. isis supporters. they were had said anything, even the little things that she said at the time that were slightly against isis's in that situation led to her life being put at risk and. the sdf then had to move her from that camp and, move her from that camp and, move it to a large camp where she is. so she was effectively under duress over the threat of death . other women and children death. other women and children have been set alight in that camp on the 10th. such a light
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for anything against against their previous sort of situation anses their previous sort of situation arises and since then, in her atrocious situation where she's not safe, it only to 2500 refugees then the sdf control over that situation . her over that situation. her interviews are very different and complexion to that what she said when she was a hope. okay i think the documentary will allow for her to tell her own story and investigate elements of that. that may be truthful or otherwise . i think that's what's otherwise. i think that's what's important about that. she gets to her story well and others . to her story well and others. okay. okay. charlotte only got a few seconds left . just picking few seconds left. just picking up on what tasnim said there. i consider what? this girl at the time young woman now signed up for was truly reprehensible you're so right to focus on the victims . but don't we want to victims. but don't we want to understand it happened so we can prevent the next shamima begum . prevent the next shamima begum. would you plenty of work to try
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and understand people join terrorists organisations. we don't need a ten part podcast to understand that there studies. there are books , there are there are books, there are experts, there are those that working with those radicalised in prisons to de—radicalize them. there's a whole body of work science and study. do we need a ten part documentary funded by us, the british viewers ? absolutely not. okay viewers? absolutely not. okay brilliant stuff . a fascinating brilliant stuff. a fascinating debate. apologies the clock is against us, but my thanks lawyer to the family of shamima begum, criminal defence solicitor tasnim and charlotte littlewood, who is a henry society fellow and former counter extreme ism coordinator. thanks to both a fascinating debate. what's your view? market gb news uk my mark means guest of the ten is the incredible comedy steve nolan , incredible comedy steve nolan, who was of course famously margaret thatcher in the eighties. absolute genius comedy legend live in the studio . we've
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legend live in the studio. we've got the papers at 1030 with full panel reaction , but next are the panel reaction, but next are the brit awards of misogyny for the female character category. what do you think about that? there is no best female singer at the brits. is that sexist ? shortly .
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now the brit awards have come fire as no female were nominated for 2023 artist of the year. this comes just a year after the brits decided to remove gendered categories . for example best categories. for example best female best male after being criticised by non—binary singer sam smith . so it begs the sam smith. so it begs the question all the brits guilty of misogyny for ditching the female category . there's only one category. there's only one person that i should ask about this. it's called the arranger. what do you i by the way, i have
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this mix. well, you got a lovely singing voice, haven't you heard me in the shower of you? yeah. let's not go back . yes, i'm with let's not go back. yes, i'm with adele on this. i think last year when she won and, she said she loves being a woman and loves a female singer. well, how do you argue with that? that. but the brits have obviously found a way of doing it. if you don't, you losing the eu would have seen this coming. if you bring it all together , there would have been together, there would have been a point. there wouldn't a point. maybe there wouldn't have males nominated in have been any males nominated in the. going to have the. so you're going to have that and what are you going to that. and what are you going to do about and also limiting it if we you know if we have we have you know if we have non—binary other categories, why couldn't be a category for those individuals if they want to be individuals if they want to be in that category but i felt it's that does music is always at the forefront of embracing this kind of change that's that's that drives that change let's see how it pans out for a couple of years but i've got a feeling that strong female vocalists and
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male vocalist may emerge in their own right yet again . their own right yet again. stephanie not only are you the star breakfast, but you are an extremely experienced entertainer journalist what do you think of mark the word woman become such a dirty word and i don't like it at all, you know women in the music industry they work so hard to be treated fairly and in terms of pay , in fairly and in terms of pay, in terms of recognition and in terms of recognition and in terms of recognition and in terms of how they are recognised as female artists and. last year when they announced that they get invited to change towards the writing was on the wall that i knew this was going to happen this year. and it's all because of sam smith, because his of sam smith, because got his knickers twist and he does knickers in a twist and he does in no way. oh is it my friends? no gender neutral jockey. yes, he is. you know , now been he is. you know, now been nominated for awards this year. thanks to his work rate. but that's been at the expense of women who've recorded so much great this year, including charlie essex florence welch .
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charlie essex florence welch. and they're not going to be recognised and i think the brits have made a fundamental big mistake in their bid to try get equality they've actually snubbed 50% of the music industry . snubbed 50% of the music industry. lisa what about snubbed 50% of the music industry . lisa what about those industry. lisa what about those who don't identify as male or they don't want to be left out ? they don't want to be left out? no i think this is i'm going to go with what we what we've been talking about earlier, about you said this the right on the wall. they should have known this . we they should have known this. we all knew this. but i think in these institutions, i think they surround themselves with people like themselves and they all agree, you know, they go, oh, do think this? yes, i think this. do you think this year we all agree. and i think they don't actually think forward. they don't see might happen. i didn't know sam smith was there yesterday . i've never heard of yesterday. i've never heard of sam smith . my heroes is blondie. sam smith. my heroes is blondie. suzy so poorly block from me yeah that's who that's the
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strong women that i connect to and i think those women in the 80 were like and proud and shout about who they were and were angry and. it worries me that they sort of , you know, we're they sort of, you know, we're all the same old way, but we're not all the same, you know? but we we're sort of flattening out those differences and by doing that, we seem be counselling women . well, of course. i mean, women. well, of course. i mean, again, all three of us have said surely saw this comment. but again , i think in these all again, i think in these all these and i think. i agree. i agree. let's see what the next generations because i think four or five years of this where women will get counselled out. you know what's next for sex that's your own you know perhaps the next generation of young women might say, hang on a minute , you know, i'm a log, minute, you know, i'm a log, proud woman and let being a woman. yes, the thing is, i don't know why there's this big war on women being women and allowing themselves to express
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themselves creatively . i think themselves creatively. i think themselves creatively. i think the brits have done this to avoid, but they've now landed in the exact opposite when , that the exact opposite when, that poor old adele. i mean, i agree with colvin, it was great when she said, i just love a woman. although she had to slightly row back on it the next day, didn't she, because the woop mog the mob her back. i know, mob were on her back. i know, but like same things but it's like the same things they're fighting for the limiting people from limiting of the people from women want to comfortable in women who want to comfortable in their . own their their identity. own their identity. yeah well, it's my view that's extreme gender ideology, which just says that man is a woman or vice versa is not compatible with feminism . not compatible with feminism. and that's my view. but what's yours ? mark gbnews.uk when i get yours? mark gbnews.uk when i get tonight, i'll be listening to aretha franklin , be listening to aretha franklin, be listening to adele, definitely dionne warwick, you name it, all women and title geniuses coming up. it might take a time. you won't believe it. the bride wars, which verse is warburtons? waitrose not stock warburtons
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the brit awards have got rid of the best female singer category in the name of political . a big in the name of political. a big reaction on email gordon says hi mark this is not misogyny more like stupidity have non—binary category he would win it every year bloke an sam smith that is gordon not pulling his punches on slave the church of england are creating a fund to support
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communities impacted by crimes of the past. this from james. hi, mark. we didn't need slaves in the uk because we had our own slaves. we had poor houses, sent children up, chimneys down, mines and cotton mills where lungs bled with the cotton and they grew bent over of working such long hours on machines. what about reparations for even some recognition of uk ? also some recognition of uk? also shamima bacon's lawyer says alan trial by jury tell that to the family of one of our locals who went to take aid and got beheaded . never must be allowed beheaded. never must be allowed back into our country. that know that debate will run and run. keep those emails coming mark@gbnews.uk and we posted a poll on to ask in the big question should we forgive terrorists or those that get involved with them? 97% said no. 3% said yes. i'll call that a landslide . now labour's shadow landslide. now labour's shadow health secretary wes streeting made a sparks fly this week
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after calling for a ban on the of cigarettes to ramp up the race to stop out brits smoking habhs race to stop out brits smoking habits by 2030. both the tories and labour have thrown their weight behind the targets of extinguishing tobacco within the decade , with tax on cigarettes, decade, with tax on cigarettes, pampering billions into the exchequer every year and the already booming illicit trade. exchequer every year and the the burning question is will it work ? well, let's speak now to work? well, let's speak now to the deputy of conservativehome henry hill. hi, henry. hello. what do you think about this stuff out? after all, it's costing the nhs. a fortune . i costing the nhs. a fortune. i mean it's really not the. the revenue that smokers bring in tax and also that they save through not living forever because there's nothing more expensive than somebody who needs 20 years worth of end of life care . it means that life care. it means that actually the balance of payments on smoking is if anything, in the green , but ultimately is not the green, but ultimately is not the green, but ultimately is not the basis on which we want to live our lives. the nhs was set
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up as a safety net, not a straitjacket. should we be , you straitjacket. should we be, you know, our adult lives ? know, ordering our adult lives? what the nhs or what best suits the nhs or should the nhs be there to support us in making free choices ? we've seen quite a full choices? we've seen quite a full on measures from new zealand where young people are banned from smoking. this raises legitimate questions, doesn't it 7 legitimate questions, doesn't it ? yeah there were there were several problems with this policy. the first is, you know, the one i suppose you could call it, which is if you're over the age of 18 or over the age of 21 or whatever, the age of adulthood is, why shouldn't you be allowed to decisions be allowed to make decisions nobody days just starting nobody these days just starting smoking, risks smoking, knowing what the risks are? also big are? but there's also a big practical you know, practical questions. you know, one, obviously the loss of revenue ban smoking and revenue you ban smoking and smoking 10 smoking brings in about 10 billion to the uk billion a year to the uk exchequer. we're already in a cost living crisis, already cost of living crisis, already can't lots things. you can't afford lots of things. you know, we're going know, that's we're going without. getting without. but also who's getting that do know that money? because do you know who in? if we banned who will step in? if we banned smoking the black, there's
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already a thriving black market in competing with in tobacco. it's competing with the product currently the legal product currently which and which is taxed high heaven and sold olive packages and sold and ugly olive packages and all rest of it. if you ban all the rest of it. if you ban the of cigarettes, that's the sale of cigarettes, that's a huge market going to be huge market that's going to be handed organised handed straight to organised crime. labour clearly crime. however labour clearly want to end human suffer. my first flat that i lived in with my girlfriend. now mrs. dolan this was a lovely guy who worked his whole life. he was a heavy smoker about a month after he retired he died with lung cancer . and you know , i fully support . and you know, i fully support measures to help people want to quit. i think you know a majority of smokers are trying to quit. there are smokers who don't to quit and are taking the risks but measures to help people quit absolutely. but people quit are absolutely. but ultimately, know, the ultimately, you know, the problem policy is it's problem with this policy is it's utopian nobody's is utopian and nobody's utopia is going a free society going to be a free society because we all make decisions which will displease other people. so even on a principle basis, i think there were grounds for saying actually if i want to smoke, example , do want to smoke, for example, do i not the right to take that not have the right to take that risk for myself? but again, if
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you're talking about human suffering, human suffering, what is the human suffering, what is the human suffering associated with giving £10 billion a year of revenue to organised which will use organised which they will use the lines which will the county lines which they will use to buy and support other criminal? so i think it's a watershed effect. banning smoking wouldn't stamp smoking. it would just mean that all of those, all of those profits are huge profits. we're going to the worst society. does this worst people society. does this proposed policy have echoes of those illiberal covid measures ? those illiberal covid measures? isuppose those illiberal covid measures? i suppose in a sense, and that all about, you know , think all about, you know, think covid's a bit like the smoking before it. what these policies do is they just fundamentally they changed attitude of many people towards what was a proper limit on what the state would tell an individual to do . and tell an individual to do. and obviously the of covid have passed on most of those measures have been taken off the statute book but ultimately now a generation of people and legislators who done it before and once you've done it before,
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it's much to think, oh, we'll do it's much to think, oh, we'll do it again. you know, that's that slogan you mentioned earlier about saving the nhs, that slogan from the pandemic protect , the how much , how many , the nhs, how much, how many policies could you justify on that basis? ban that basis? don't you ban alcohol? why you ban sugar? you know, obesity does cost the nhs a lot of money. so does problems connected to drinking. once you start going down that rabbit, ultimately society that ultimately a society that protects the nhs is a society where we're all forced to live the healthiest possible lives, even at the expense of many things. we as free adults greatly enjoy. henry i always enjoy reading your work on conservativehome you are its deputy editor. conservativehome you are its deputy editor . join us again deputy editor. join us again soon. my thanks to you, henry hill. fascinating conversation. and what do you think? should we ban smoking or is it a human rights to? do bad things to your body ? gbnews.uk, i suppose . the body? gbnews.uk, i suppose. the dangeris body? gbnews.uk, i suppose. the danger is the slippery slope as highlighted by henry there is a dictator really a liberal government. and let's honest, we've had almost three years of
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that since march 2020. coming up in next hour. oh, boy, we've saved our best till last. it might take ten. it's the bread wars . it's waitrose verses wars. it's waitrose verses warburtons. waitrose will not stop warburtons crumpets. and i'm picking side. i'm not pulling my punches that's my take it ten in just a couple of minutes plus my martin guest is a comedy superstar. it is the incredible impressionist nolan famous of course , for the voice famous of course, for the voice of margaret thatcher, the eighties, but so many other icons, boris johnson , roy icons, boris johnson, roy hattersley, neil can you name it 7 hattersley, neil can you name it ? nolan has been them. so i can't wait for that. keep those emails coming. well, mark gbnews.uk and we got the papers at exactly 30. you can set watch to it but that take it ten is coming next see shortly shortly .
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it's 10:00 it's10:00 and this is mark dolan tonight. it's in my take it ten in just a moment why have stocked a stocking warburtons delicious crumpets . i'll be delicious crumpets. i'll be picking a side in the increasingly hostile bread wars. vladimir putin eat your heart out . my heart meets guest vladimir putin eat your heart out. my heart meets guest is the hilarious margaret thatcher impersonator and image it star steve nolan in the news agenda parents responsible for the behaviour of their grown up children and is it ever too late to get in shape plus tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030 sharp with full panel reaction lots to get through a big hour to come, including my take at ten and the bread wars. but first, the headunes bread wars. but first, the headlines with karen armstrong . headlines with karen armstrong.
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and howard armstrong. the gb newsroom manchester city footballer benjamin mendy has been fined guilty of raping four women and sexually assaulting another during parties at his cheshire home. the france international was cleared of six rape charges and another of sexual but the jury a chester crown , were unable to reach crown, were unable to reach a verdict on one count of rape and one of attempted rape after . a one of attempted rape after. a six month long trial . many will six month long trial. many will be retried on those two charges in june . the threat strike in june. the threat strike action in scotland's nhs has been put on hold while negotiations take place on a new pay negotiations take place on a new pay offer for this year. the union's say those fresh talks with the scottish government are expected to start next week with any deal reached to january. the royal college of nursing and the gmb union rejected a pay offer in november which is worth on average around 7.5. labour leader sir keir starmer is urging prime minister to resolve the northern ireland protocol dispute as a matter of urgency.
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sir says if rishi sunak makes a deal to solve problems with , the deal to solve problems with, the post—brexit trading arrangements , then labour will provide the political support to get it through parliament. so i say to the minister , if there is a deal the minister, if there is a deal to do in coming weeks , do it. to do in coming weeks, do it. whatever political you need , whatever political you need, whatever mechanisms in westminster you require , if it westminster you require, if it delivers for our national interest and the people of northern ireland, we will you . northern ireland, we will you. the time for action on the protocol is now . sir keir protocol is now. sir keir starmer making a speech . queen's starmer making a speech. queen's university in belfast, part of a two day trip to the province. donald trump's company has been £13 million for a number of tax crimes , including conspiracy, crimes, including conspiracy, criminal fraud and falsifying business. the former president did not go on trial himself and has denied any knowledge his former executives illegally evaded paying tax over a 15 year
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period. however, the trump organisation was convicted for 17 counts of tax fraud last month . rescue teams continuing month. rescue teams continuing to search for survivors . a to search for survivors. a series of tornadoes swept across the southern states, killing at least nine people. seven of those deaths have been reported in alabama, which was hit by at least five twisters leaving tens of thousands of people without power. emergency officials say the death toll is expected to rise and people , england, are rise and people, england, are being warned to brace themselves for more extreme cold weather over the coming days. the environment has issued 81 flood warnings, mostly in the west and the southwest england. from sunday, the midlands and central eastern parts of the country are expected to be hit with cold, icy and heavy snow . so if you're icy and heavy snow. so if you're out and about, then look out. tv online and dab radio . this is gb online and dab radio. this is gb news. but now it is back to mark
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dolan tonight tonight. there you go. welcome to mark dolan tonight. my thanks to there you go. welcome to mark dolan tonight . my thanks to the dolan tonight. my thanks to the brilliant aaron who returns an hours brilliant aaron who returns an hour's time. this is marked down. and tonight, big stories, big guests, always big opinions. my mark meats guest is the hilarious margaret thatcher impersonator and spitting image . steve nolan , man of a thousand . steve nolan, man of a thousand voices, a comic genius, live in the studio . in a few minutes the studio. in a few minutes time in the news agenda, all parents responsible for the behaviour of their grown up children and is it ever too late to get in shape. plus papers at exactly 1030 sharp with full panel reaction tonight. i'm delighted to have alongside me journalist and the star of gb news breakfast stephanie techy . news breakfast stephanie techy. former adviser to boris johnson and political commentator kool v. arranger and academic and bestselling dr. lisa mackenzie . bestselling dr. lisa mackenzie. lots to come in. what's going be
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a busy hour. but first, my take . at a busy hour. but first, my take. at waitrose is has declared war the premium supermarket chain has withdrawn all products from this much loved family owned bakery business waitrose stopped selling warburtons products a year ago, including the wildly popular crumpet range with . popular crumpet range with. concerns over quality . waitrose concerns over quality. waitrose have said performance did not meet expectations . however, meet expectations. however, warburtons countered quality is paramount that its puts an awful lot of care into the products it bakes. well, waitrose customers are now horribly deprived , are now horribly deprived, hungry. all they want is a pizza the action. but sadly warburtons wouldn't seeing bread in one of their outlets at the moment. now, i'm a big fan of waitrose, great commitment to british farming . their essential range farming. their essential range is well priced and very high
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quality and business itself is a shine ing model of retail. given of course that it's part of the john lewis partnership, which for me is one of the great institutions of this country. the employees are partners. so they have a stake in the firm. how brilliant is that. but they've got this one badly wrong. thanks to the policy . wrong. thanks to the policy. this john lewis company warburtons delicious treats are now ever knowingly . is it really now ever knowingly. is it really about quality or is it. is warburtons bolton based business that's been around for five generations? and whose current ceo bears the same surname just to northern? not london enough. perhaps not middle class enough even. or could it be the warburtons family support for brexit. is that great crime , brexit. is that great crime, given the fact that in many circles waitrose is perceived as the supreme of the elite of the metropole it's in chattering classes who ? probably think classes who? probably think brexit was our greatest crime in
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this country's history. is this sour dough or sour grapes? i doubt it from my own experience. it's clear that waitrose a huge amount about all of their customers across the country , customers across the country, but not enough to stock wonderful range of wheat based wonderment . i always try to use wonderment. i always try to use platform to make the world the country a better place, which is why i implore waitrose and warburtons my choice in ws to get around the table and to end this action. i will chair the meeting if necessary and we can do it live on the show . i won't do it live on the show. i won't take sides. i never with with waitrose profits having fallen , waitrose profits having fallen, they need warburtons to make some bread and warburtons themselves have had a challenging time with rising inflation and therefore high costs of ingredient plus driver shortage . yes. so they could do shortage. yes. so they could do with being sandwiched in between as many supermarket shelves as possible . when it comes to this possible. when it comes to this bakery bus stop, i'm confident
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that waitrose can rise to the occasion . after all, they need occasion. after all, they need the dough at the very least. talk to each other. don't loaf around. we need this resolved . around. we need this resolved. why can't they just sort this out? we've got enough in the world. so it's time for. out? we've got enough in the world. so it's time for . a world. so it's time for. a ceasefire from these two great brands. it's time to end the war on warburton . i hope i don't on warburton. i hope i don't have to wait rows too long before that happens . after all, before that happens. after all, who doesn't love a bit of crumpet . delicious . crumpet. delicious. crispy at the top, soggy bottom . however the top, soggy bottom. however the top, soggy bottom. however the muffins nice . thank you to the muffins nice. thank you to maria, my brilliant producer for her possible cooking skills. what do think? whose side do you take in the great bread war?
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mark@gbnews.uk we'll get to your emails shortly . are you worried emails shortly. are you worried about the of warburtons products at your local waitrose? let's get reaction now whilst i continue journalists tetchy former adviser to boris political commentator cover arranger and best selling author and academic lisa mackenzie . and academic lisa mackenzie. lisa, are you with warburtons ? lisa, are you with warburtons? with waitrose? oh we are . so with waitrose? oh we are. so when you were saying crumpets, i was like, whoa, there's something different . but yeah, something different. but yeah, we call them pie close . i love we call them pie close. i love warburtons bread. i'll be there's nothing better than really thick slice of bread with of, as we would say, nottinghamshire best pizza. so we had at best bought a thick bread, a waitrose. i didn't really shop in waitrose. i'll be honest, i don't really have a local waitrose. we i think we're a bit too north for waitrose ,
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a bit too north for waitrose, but in the local shops where i shop, there's always warburtons in there and you can almost always grab a thick slice. what do you think ? waitrose do you think? waitrose suggestion their performance did not expectations . is that what not expectations. is that what they said? is that what they're. i mean, i'm not sure what that means. yeah, i don't know what i mean. i was interested in your link to brexit and i'll you. why i'm interested in that because i do think since brexit there has been a lot of sort of cosmopolitan middle class prejudices against sorts of things actually in the country . things actually in the country. so i was interested in that sort of waitrose war button , you of waitrose war button, you know, whether it's got something to do with brexit and the prejudices that are how old around the people that supported brexit. i think it's an interesting point actually . interesting point actually. yeah.i interesting point actually. yeah. i mean cool there . i don't yeah. i mean cool there. i don't think waitrose have got a problem with brexit, which was a popular democratic . i don't popular democratic. i don't think it's snobbery . there's think it's snobbery. there's some kind of misunderstand
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thing. how do we solve it? well this war of the crumpets, you since but the quality issue is interesting as someone who spent most of my last 25 years in industry. this is about pounds and pence and that's what business comes down to and somewhere the great commercial negotiates is of waitrose and the bread of warburtons. they haven't on a price and a there's a face off a standoff you know not enough butter is being put these cooks and therefore they're not happy it and they're stopping us eating our crumpets . but i think the key i with lisa on how it's been aligned becomes a lightning rod for the brexit conversation because there are there is going to be these things where these will emerge brexit and protest emerge of brexit and protest against it. what does it what metaphor can we use and what better than a soggy bottom crumpet? but when we're in a week where, the labour party leader is saying, you know, he's going to make take back control a bill. he's moved on from being
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the arch remainer and the campaigner for remain to saying the language of brexit is going to become the bill for brexit that he, the labour party leader, is potentially the next prime minister is going to champion, you know , that we're champion, you know, that we're past remain and really we should be getting to the point where everyone eat what they want in in post—brexit era. now in this post—brexit era. now stephanie, you know waitrose is very popular supermarket . very popular supermarket. they're all over the country but does this reflect the north south divide perhaps ? i think it south divide perhaps? i think it does a little bit because waitrose is always been known the kind of rich man's supermarket in that sense . it's supermarket in that sense. it's such a shame that there's not being a heritage brands such as warburtons, it's about supporting brands they've been around for five generations. so obviously quality of food is there when it comes to their ranges. i love crumpets and i think what doing now? seeing the customers reaction to them, pulling it off market, it just goes to show that actually you
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know what waitrose have got it wrong on this one they really have and the problem with this story is now it's warburtons what is going to be the product that they're going to have a problem with it just seems very unfair and it seems very personal. i think it's about the quality because the nation has spoken. love and we love spoken. we love and we love wolverton crumpet come on waitrose , don't keep me waiting. waitrose, don't keep me waiting. let's an end to this strike after all, there's enough conflict in the world as it is. let me know your on the bread wars market going use dot uk lots come next up we got the brilliant voice actor impressionist of course famously the voice of margaret on spitting image in the remarkable steve nowlin we've got the papers at 1030 sharp with full panel reaction and in the news agenda all parents are responsible for the behaviour of their grown up children and it ever too late to get in shape. don't go anywhere .
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waitrose are not stocking warburtons products, including their very popular crumpet range. you're not happy this this from bob waitrose will be in danger of losing customers sales and cash flow to other outdoor pets. how about why don't waitrose customers vote with their feet and buy warburtons crumpets from a different supermarket? alexander warburton's teacakes are scrumptious susan. hi mark. have no choice but to be on the side of warburtons live in rural wales, waitrose did not deliver in my area. i think it's down to money. waitrose are probably trying warburtons on trying to screw warburtons on price have proven price warburton have proven themselves done warburton themselves nicely done warburton crumpets are the best. thank you susan. crumpets are the best. thank you susan . richard i eat warburtons susan. richard i eat warburtons crumpets every night with my supper and occasionally i have a
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quick one at lunchtime, but with a soggy bottom . glad to hear a soggy bottom. glad to hear that. richard might have entered the realms of too much information, but thank you anyway. phil says an expat lancastrian an waitrose shopper. i support warburtons, however this show is all about balance and all about opinions, marches says.i and all about opinions, marches says. i have to side with waitrose warburtons. bread quality has deteriorated sadly. how about this warburtons bread crusts taste of plastic ? i find crusts taste of plastic? i find them inedible. i try to avoid that brisk bread at all costs . that brisk bread at all costs. thatis that brisk bread at all costs. that is from martin . i could do that is from martin. i could do warburtons of waitrose all night long. i think with all conflicts there is blame on both sides. but i want them to get sorted if we're going to make that a campaign on this show. but warburtons bread back in waitrose . it's time now for this . ye waitrose. it's time now for this. ye which we speak to the names in the world of politics, sport, showbiz and beyond. tonight, one of the most talented and
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hilarious voice artists of his generation and a man who, along with a range of impressed with a range of other impressed , epitomised margaret thatcher with his eerily uncanny on the iron lady . with his eerily uncanny on the iron lady. take a listen to him in action as the star of spitting image go . good evening spitting image go. good evening boys. spitting image go. good evening boys . good evening. majesty boys. good evening. majesty sheila. just a yes. i will have a stay . how could you not keep a stay. how could you not keep your place? and what about the vegetables . oh, they'll have the vegetables. oh, they'll have the same me. norman. speak man, for god's sakes. hey, what you're doing? not on the platform now . doing? not on the platform now. nigel my pen. nigel is this true? you know , policy on true? you know, policy on stealing from mums friends cabinet. what do we call it when people go around stealing other people's . you a free market people's. you a free market economy . rubbish. what do we economy. rubbish. what do we call it david? socially awesome. well done. i think comedy, gold
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. i'm privileged to say that, steve allen is with us in the studio and, rightly chuckling along to that. well some good gags. there was some nice lines. i enjoyed the writing, the puppets voices. do you think that was the golden era of when nobody was offended by anything? i think that's fair point. but i think the team that we had was chris barrie . there was harry chris barrie. there was harry and the late john sessions. we just had such a great team. and what remember most about working on spitting image was, was how democratic it was because i was also doing the puppeteer and chris barrie was doing puppeteering as well. and we used to, we used to make suggestions to our producer lloyd. yeah. it was very very free. so we had a great american guy called anthony asper. he was the puppeteer a great puppeteer and he did the thatcher puppet and he did the thatcher puppet and he did the thatcher puppet and he the person who said put her in a man suit. brilliant you
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know, with a cigar and all the old. absolutely. and and actually, he brought his own dog in, which looked like the sort of churchill dog. and to call precious, to be the dog alongside her. so and people forget really that the original voice i did for mrs. thatcher wasn't actually all that good. it got better when i added caricature to it . so in the very caricature to it. so in the very early days , she had that very early days, she had that very high voice. and this a relatively accurate impression. i'm not putting myself down for that. but what i would say is that. but what i would say is that peter flopped , came up to that peter flopped, came up to me and said, look, you're one of the muppets. is one of the great one of the creators. he you've got to match the voice to the puppet. and said, well, the only way i can do that is to borrow her voice from the house of commons and house of commons. voice obviously is bigger. so i added, i added the power of that, the right on the ball does
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not understand . the nature of not understand. the nature of his role , paul, that he does not his role, paul, that he does not understand the nature of an and so and that's why i combine the very soft and douglas. why are being so ridiculous mrs. hatch you didn't sound like that , but you didn't sound like that, but that didn't matter. you didn't sound like that, but that didn't matter . the point that didn't matter. the point was that the pop hit sound like that and it was right for the puppet, it was right for britain and it was right for everyone . and it was right for everyone. and we had a marvellous time. normally a satirical comedy makes politician look bad, but something that enabled margaret thatcher that you actually in many ways an asset because she characterised as strong and device that device if those words that strong and decisive. well i think that's another of her point we had we had of sketches where she was invincible . and who's going to i invincible. and who's going to i mean, i know did really and roy hattersley it was bumbling idiot and i met roy a few times he
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said to me i'm very grateful that you are portraying me as a bumbling idiot. got it. got it. could have been a great deal worth . and he, he mentioned the worth. and he, he mentioned the snail which one of the cabinet ministers, mrs. thatcher was. ken baker. ken baker. thank you. yeah, that's a member of the mail. love the show and so. and so. so yes, it was . it was. it so. so yes, it was. it was. it was a fun . but you weren't you was a fun. but you weren't you weren't cheerleaders, the thatcher regime. it's just that , you know, comedians well, comedians are there to sort of characterise politicians in a comedic way. and this was your take on thatcher and the puppet designers? they just identify that this was a central lie, a very masculine prime minister. yeah, i think john lloyd , our yeah, i think john lloyd, our producer who was comic legend behind the 9:00 news, black spy, i mean, he's genius. genius. great greatest mind in comedy.
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i'm worked with he didn't like the word satire and he characterised the show as it's . characterised the show as it's. sunday 10:00 might have been in the pub you've got a hard work tomorrow basically spitting images to the rich famous and that's what was thinking about it now i think thing that spitting image achieved if achieved is the right word it helped destroy difference. yeah and we had deference politicians we had certainly deference to rule the rule family and spitting image was part of that process which certainly with tribute three that was the week that was the 1960s but to the three didn't do it about the royal family and there was all sorts of controversy. for example, about the queen mother, which i ended up. you were the queen mother of . i suggested to queen mother of. i suggested to john lloyd , i said also , why
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john lloyd, i said also, why don't we use the of beryl reid as the queen mother, not just voice, but the moulded which was this it to the wishes of the black country and i said, well, the same age and you know, it would make a funny and the we don't have the queen mother speaks and so on but was a huge controversy over you couldn't she was the person you couldn't touch in in that world and also now the boys of course have grown up and couldn't possibly do the kids either so i'm spitting image did you know and it was an astonishing that you playing all these female characters because you were the right voice but it's counter intuitive, isn't it? well, i've got a pitch voice and i was brought up by my grandmother and i realised over the years that i'm the indomitable women people i'm the indomitable women people i'm attracted to. i know you've had on your show many times
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about the ann widdecombe is one of the most interesting voices to have , and she's sort like to have, and she's sort like goggles on. it's very strange voice and. i met her once and she very sweet lady in a way. and i said, um, do you realise that you've got to note operating at the site and time . operating at the site and time. and she said, oh yes, yes , have. and she said, oh yes, yes, have. and she said, oh yes, yes, have. and i said the only other character i'll that i do all that has a particular way of speaking is homer simpson . speaking is homer simpson. simpson as a high voice in the low voice, you meet him in the same time and she had no idea who . simpson was blessed . maybe who. simpson was blessed. maybe she thought i was talking about, you know. odyssey in the you know. the odyssey in the iliad . love widdecombe . iliad. i love ann widdecombe. i'm a huge admirer of hers she's she's a really, really . what do she's a really, really. what do you tell me? tells it is . i tell you tell me? tells it is. i tell it as it is. i nobody argues with me and i never dare argue she's she is a fixture on our
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every sunday night in the in the big question and she's on sunday at 920 but i like and do you have to have a certain affection for the for the characters that you play do you have to slightly like i think you've got to have some sort connection and with me it was because i was brought up by strong grandmother of by a very strong grandmother of the for all sorts of family reasons and therefore i think i am. but didn't dame dame maggie smith , i mean, a very different smith, i mean, a very different sort character, you know, playing the damaged duchess of some of downton but nevertheless in dumb and to stop fiddling there you know fiddling i'm fiddling with my paper clip i've been told off by the duchess can i ask him you're so up to date with your voices. do you get the opportunities you deserve ? no, opportunities you deserve? no, i stopped doing the live comedy a couple of a couple of years ago.
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i really enjoyed . but actually i really enjoyed. but actually what i found was i was one politician. i tried to impersonate and that was an i actually did it for a spitting image puppet, which was debbie cameron . and what's interesting, cameron. and what's interesting, david, about david cameron was he had that he had that sort of catch in his voice like just had a cold. i had an odd way of saying clear, which not quite posh but not estuary . and at the posh but not estuary. and at the beginning of sentences, he often used to breathe. after the first two words and sort of taking a breath. so i put all that and i had to go and you know that to breathe that he had them the clear the way he said let me let me make this absolutely clear i but i never captured his essence . that was the problem. i take nicola got it close ish. but sometimes with an impression . sometimes with an impression. it's you can capture the essence
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or . you it's you can capture the essence or. you can't. and i don't know why that works well it doesn't it was uncanny where i was sitting i consider you a genius steve not in thrill to have you in the studio are have you got a book out. i've got a book. right. well, listen, we had a debate is this let's get nice of that chloe the book called the times it never was a rambunctious riot of book. give me your elevator pitch on this one. give me a two sentence. oh, yes. well it's actually partly about my with my grandmother. and i fantasy fiction time travel. well, look, i think we can all. how hilarious steve nolan is, which is why you need to buy a copy of his book we could all do with a smile in january, the time that never was by steve nolan is out now and i'm sure steve come back to the studio very soon and lots more to come after this. the papers .
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my thanks again to steve nolan, comedian andy . my thanks again to steve nolan, comedian andy. his my thanks again to steve nolan, comedian andy . his new book, the comedian andy. his new book, the times that never was, is out now . and it's time for a look at. tomorrow's papers hot off the press. we start with the times and they lead with we need train more doctors says nhs chief the guardian angel tea may cut risk of dementia in women . the daily of dementia in women. the daily express hrt drugs help fights to halt dementia ort express hrt drugs help fights to halt dementia or t drugs taken halt dementia ort drugs taken by millions of women could help prevent dementia . a developing prevent dementia. a developing in that story as referenced the guardian, but also a front page story of the express , the story of the express, the independent , loose cannon, boris
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independent, loose cannon, boris told stay out of ukraine senior military figures have criticised johnson and accused him of looking publicity in a war zone after it was revealed that he plans to ukraine. the former head , the army lord dannatt also head, the army lord dannatt also that the ex—prime minister was a loose cannon whose plan could upstage sunak mr. johnson intends to travel to kyiv in the coming months to show his support for the torn country he , built a strong relationship with zelenskyy whilst he was in office and has urged the west to continue to support ukraine, its russian invaders. i'll be asking his former top adviser, coulby arranger, what he thinks of that story shortly. he's on my panel. but the daily mail next killed by the dogs . she was but the daily mail next killed by the dogs. she was paid to walk. a woman was savaged to death by a pack of seven dogs that she was walking a popular beauty spot . the 28 year old beauty spot. the 28 year old victim screamed at horrified passers by to go back as . she passers by to go back as. she tried to get up from the ground
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and fend off the frenzied . one and fend off the frenzied. one witness described the chaos as . witness described the chaos as. like seven small wolves attacking you, the horror began when one of the woman's dogs stranger then turned on her when she tried to and the others joined in a truly horrific story. sarah harry, i've got enough for a second book. please no.the enough for a second book. please no. the daily now tragedy. elvis's only child, lisa marie, died of a broken heart lisa marie presley was still her son when she died suddenly aged 54. elvis only child had never from benjamin's suicide in 2020. at the age 27, an insider said it broke her soul and it broke heart . the son exclusive heart. the son exclusive marriage number two over at noel divorce. oh, dear. noel gallagher, of course one half of oasis has split from his wife
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sara after 22 years and has moved out of their mansion. very sad news because that was a well—reported showbiz marriage was going very well. so we were told on our stephanie about that shortly. the daily telegraph there's enough for another book i cut memoir in half to spare my family . we spare them family. we didn't spare them very did you, harry very much, did you, harry all say as tesla cuts car say buyers as tesla cuts car pnces say buyers as tesla cuts car prices ? and how about mermaids prices? and how about mermaids train child gender trust and nhs trust taking over care of trans children . the tavistock clinic children. the tavistock clinic is being trained . the is being trained. the controversial charity mermaids the weekend labour nhs. too often for doctors, not patients and the daily star last tragic days of the daughter. the curse of elvis lisa marie had turned into a recluse. reflecting now on the sad death of lisa marie presley. elvis's daughter and those are you from pages . let's those are you from pages. let's get reaction now from stephanie takyi calvert ranger and lisa mackenzie my fantastic panel and
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let's have a look at that story in both the guardian the express lisa . hrt drugs in both the guardian the express lisa. hrt drugs may in both the guardian the express lisa . hrt drugs may help fight lisa. hrt drugs may help fight to halt dementia . i think this to halt dementia. i think this is a really important story. to halt dementia. i think this is a really important story . we is a really important story. we were talking about the word woman. why women and the word woman. why women and the word woman and everything about women should not be raised. and this is one of the reasons, because know it's 2023 and we're only starting to understand and even think about what menopause does to women's bodies. but women's lives. yes. you know, we've we've had a silence for hundreds of over that. and now we can talk about it. so i think , you talk about it. so i think, you know, one of the things that we have to recognise is there is a difference between men and women and women go through the menopause and it affects all different parts of their life and their health. so i think it's a really important story, but it's bigger than just the
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hrt and the dementia . it should hrt and the dementia. it should really be warning about what happens if we don't talk about the differences between the biologic differences between men and. you're absolutely right to point that and cover dementia is a ticking time bomb for both genders . and it's a massive genders. and it's a massive headache for our society going forward. it is. and we've all know that there's the problem of aduu know that there's the problem of adult social care. i think not. one of us will now not have experienced grandparents. parents who are suffering from this or have had to manage the pressure that this puts on families as individuals. lifestyle changes, everything with it. but as a society are not structured to manage this issue, but we need to talk about it. we obviously at least are saying need to look at it from the prism of how it affects the two genders and, what should be looked at in terms of more research, but the big problem is how are we going to resolve the model of adult social care? yeah, there is a funding issue ,
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yeah, there is a funding issue, there's a societal issue. there's a structural issue. and that it's across issues. it's you know, we've had many prime ministers try to grab the nettle here, but something's come and, you know, distract them. we have to focus in on issue. do you think that across approach is more possible going , whether more possible going, whether it's the nhs whether it's fund important infrastructure like roads and rail, whether it's you know social care . do you think know social care. do you think that labour and the tories and lib—dems, can they come together in the national interest? will that ever happen? i hope. i'm a positive and optimistic . what positive and optimistic. what i do is i look at the she does two stories. you've got the times and the eye today. well tomorrow. and they're both talking about the nhs and the times need more times saying we need more doctors. okay. yes of course we need more doctors. got need more doctors. we've got a problem have got to problem we have got to have doctors. yes, we need more doctors. yes, we need more doctors. but the eye is the interesting one and really interesting one and i'm really intrigued headline. intrigued by this headline. labour often run for labour nhs too often run for doctors, not patients. now the
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nhs is a sacred , it becomes nhs is a sacred, it becomes a political tool between especially the conservative party and the labour party and for now best part of a decade is been which party can throw more money at this issue? but here we go with labour. actually saying we need to look at fundamental reform. and i think this story talks about years to potentially reform the nhs . you and i and reform the nhs. you and i and nearly everyone will agree that the service , the medical people the service, the medical people deliver in the nhs is unbelievable. it's not what , unbelievable. it's not what, trust me, it's. but the administer and the structure , administer and the structure, the way this organised and the costs it does, it's not and it's not sustainable . so yes, in the not sustainable. so yes, in the national interest of not just everyone right now , the future everyone right now, the future of the health of this country, the, the political parties should come together, hopefully they will come together. and it's great to see labour leaders shaking hands and walking out the same many egos . sorry again the same many egos. sorry again . i mean, they will always come
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together when there's not an election looming . when the election looming. when the election looming. when the election starts looming and those votes are up, this is wouldn't it be great if they could make a plan for energy for housing for the nhs, social care , for how many, how many years. as people said this you and as people said this for you and for generations people have said wouldn't wonderful if the wouldn't it be wonderful if the put politics of business and put the politics of business and the and all the institutions come together. yeah we saw off the i but that's not life and this is the reason i've got a glimmer hope here is because up until this point always been about money. one side saying we've got more money now , we we've got more money now, we need money. and then moving need more money. and then moving the it's actually about the on where it's actually about reform. now the conservatives find it hard to own that conversation because people they do not of the nhs they want to privatise it but if the labour party can start talking the language of the nhs, there's a glimmer of. well yes stephanie that's the headline in whovians. right. nhs too often . run right. labour nhs too often. run for doctors not patients . that's for doctors not patients. that's surprising labour surprising their labour effectively slaughtering the sacred . well i know and it's
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sacred cow. well i know and it's you know it's one of those things with labour like they have now now the have to now now the conservatives have had so many down moments over the past years. i think labour really needs to set their agenda. so when it comes to the nhs and how they really about it. yeah. and i think so many people agree i think so many people can agree with actually . yeah. with that actually. yeah. because i think it's one of those things with the nhs been failing very long and we failing for a very long and we just need people to be honest about that . yeah. can i ask you about that. yeah. can i ask you about that. yeah. can i ask you about boris is in ukraine. about that, boris is in ukraine. he's going to make a trip to ukraine. he's something of a rock star out there. he was very supportive of ukraine when he was prime minister. many would argue vaccine rollout argue that the vaccine rollout getting brexit, the election victory of 2019 and ukraine, those were his great achievements. yeah. and i think johnson needs capitalise on johnson needs to capitalise on that because he's in a bit of a politically no man's land at the moment and he's he's no longer prime minister barely prime minister he's barely holding his for his holding onto his for his constituency . so i think if this constituency. so i think if this is going to boris's success with
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ukraine, then let him go ahead and do it. because i don't feel like even though rishi has a good relationship with zelenskyy i think boris is the one that was making all these plans. so he expected be set out he wasn't expected to be set out as minister. so give him as prime minister. so give him one last chance to make a success of something. do you not think it's unfair on rishi sunak overshadows and the overshadows you and i can. the only reason boris is so popular in is because he gave in ukraine is because he gave them billions. i think them billions. well, i think rishi undermined it. boris and took his premiership away from him . so i think rishi will him. so i think rishi will actually be like, you know what, take this as a consultant, stephanie. if only there was someone here who knew boris intimately. minute. intimately. oh, wait a minute. lisa's here where you former top adviser to boris johnson , what adviser to boris johnson, what do you think about his victory lap in ukraine it's a serious here because what boris do as prime minister was corral the international community at a time when it needed to be corralled and in on the issue that putin was about to ride roughshod into ukraine and they needed to front up it wasn't
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just about what the uk could do and he that . and that is why and he did that. and that is why it will be a part of his political legacy. but you know, as we know, boris is not done and think rishi has a lot on and i think rishi has a lot on his agenda in this coming year. there's potentially an election looming very in 2024. we've talked about the nhs adult social care cost of living crisis energy , etc. he has a crisis energy, etc. he has a very full in—tray. does he have the time to really be spending on the international stage deaung on the international stage dealing with ukraine? it's something that david cameron said about johnson . when said about boris johnson. when you've best players, you've got your best players, put them. put them on the use them. i think in this instance rishi sunak will probably be do well to advice and use to heed that advice and use them. david also say them. david cameron also say what do you do with a problem like boris? he did say that as well. i think david cameron said probably lot of things about boris. he said, can i play a very quick game of boris with you? now you're here because you. he'll be you. well, do you think he'll be parachute into a safe seat before election. no, i think before the election. no, i think he'll be for the fight. i he'll be up for the fight. i think he's always he's he's a an
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electoral asset and he electrifies people. and if things go badly , may will he run things go badly, may will he run again and seek to fight the next election as leader? no, i think the conservative party has to accept there will be some damage in the local elections that happens when you're the party of government. exactly government. they're not exactly popular he were to popular in boris. if he were to come he's playing the long come back, he's playing the long game and it would be after the next election. no, i think boris is support the is looking to support the conservative party stay in power. is what is power. that is what boris is trying for. spokesman have a trying for. the spokesman have a spokesman listen. spokesman stephanie listen. we've more come very we've got lots more come very excited about more from excited about more stories from the paper including all parents responsible for the behaviour of their children. it their grown up children. is it ever too late to get in shape? and asking about that and i'll be asking about that very story that the oasis very sad story that the oasis singer noel gallagher has split up with . partner of 22 years. up with. partner of 22 years. that's a big showbiz . we'll get that's a big showbiz. we'll get more on that .
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next let' s next let's get more to the papers with journalist stephanie techy, political commentator covering , political commentator covering, ginger and best selling author, an academic dr. lisa mackenzie . an academic dr. lisa mackenzie. and stephanie, i'd love to talk to you . noel gallagher , who has to you. noel gallagher, who has split from his wife after 22 years. and it seems like she was the love of his life , mean he the love of his life, mean he could she could do no wrong. now she can. and to be honest they were one of the most solid marriages in showbiz. mark to get to 22 years in the entertainment industry together, thatis entertainment industry together, that is an achievement because in showbiz celebrity marriages give it five years, it's over. and very much been a rock his career you know they've had a unhed career you know they've had a united front he's spoken about her as the love of his life but behind doors mark sometimes you see a pretty picture of a couple. you think they're the happiest couple on that. but behind closed doors it's a different story i imagine in time more will come out to deal
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with the divorce hopefully there's no one else involved. yeah, you know, and also what i find with these partners of who are in the limelight, they often neglected, you know, you have someone like noel gallagher. he's always going to be on the road touring . he's probably road touring. he's probably surrounded by a lot of women and all that stuff. and so i guess i here at gb news, i can imagine mark gloria de piero camilla tominey stephanie takyi, lisa mackenzie i'm so team . i'm very mackenzie i'm so team. i'm very honoured to hear that and i just a question for you, stephanie . a question for you, stephanie. 55 years of age. yeah midlife crisis, i think it is midlife crisis, i think it is midlife crisis and probably there is going to be a younger lover that's to come out of the shadows any time soon. but again, it is a shame when a marriage breaks down and. that's what's involved. and when it's so publicly on the front of the sun, you can't really get away from it and a lot of the paps and a lot of the industry are now be praying for more now going to be praying for more information this. now, information about this. now, listen, lisa, you've got a bit
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in to be off now , in you're going to be off now, for all we know, she might she have terrible indecent, have some terrible indecent, miserable, man . it miserable, grumpy old man. it may be that she she sort of she's looking for the younger model. i mean, you i'm single . model. i mean, you i'm single. listen, i've been very lucky in his dreams. lisa you wrote wonderwall about meg . matthew wonderwall about meg. matthew yeah. his previous. wonderwall about meg. matthew yeah. his previous . do you think yeah. his previous. do you think maybe she's dumped him because he didn't write any songs about her or successful songs because 7 her or successful songs because ? those songs when he wrote those albums and you know, i was living that in my teenage years those songs are just so and so now and they're not about to her write you know, so yeah more than we do have names are coming out and probably this will be inspiration for it it'll do in adele well look , let's be clear. adele well look, let's be clear. it's a really sad story and we wish both of them well , an wish both of them well, an absolute music genius and she's absolute music genius and she's a very accomplished and, beautiful woman as well so. well it's sad story and we wish them all the best for the future. a
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17 year old canadian influence said, joan macdonald is defying odds with her fitness online. she's lost six stone in six years, transforming her life with good nutrition, strength and a positive mental attitude . and a positive mental attitude. she says she has a motivational tips with almost 2 million instagram followers and releasing her first book, flex age and fitness app this month. so it begs the question, is it ever too late to get in? never. never know. i would say if you're in for the long haul, you want maintain your body. there used to be old narrative of once you hit 40, it all goes downhill . and actually no that's when you actually can be at your peak and you can maintain your fitness and your body and that's why i the silver influences because they make feel because they make you feel positive about ageing there's always been this narrative of getting such a bonus getting older is such a bonus embrace it where about bikini at 70 if you've got the body you work hard for it flaunt okay well there you go well look personally seen covers guns and
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they are something to behold very briefly every guardian columnist analisa barbieri . a columnist analisa barbieri. a personal problem sent in by a reader this week. she was asked whether readers confront her for parents failing to guide her through education. and so are parents responsible . the parents responsible. the behaviour of their grown up children . you're an academic children. you're an academic about this . you know, i think is about this. you know, i think is this thing you just talking the silver influences children all saying children longer than they used to you know at one point you in that transition between youth and adult or was perhaps know two years between 16 and 18 and you got married and have kids whatever and you moved on. i mean, childhood is up to 38, 30 years old. yeah so i think now i think to all thinking they are responsible for their adult children. well beyond the age of, you know what , we promised. of, you know what, we promised. but what happens you're a 23 year old daughter becomes a mass murderer. i mean, it's not your idea, is it, stephanie i might
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be thinking that earlier. oh, just thinking like up a certain age even. do i. we are products of our environments i.e. the family home. once get that free will when you become independent as a whole, that's up to 18 is the cut off and the route you've decided . think there's that decided. think there's that immortal line from philip larkin there that they they your mom and dad. but yeah , there is and dad. but yeah, there is a certain truth in that. but at the end of the day, we want generate and nurture and grow young adults that will take response ability. yeah, not at the age of 30 be looking to blame your parents. i think all one of the i heard hugh jackman interview namedrop. i just heard it on tv where he talked about the anxiety that parent retains about oh yeah doing the right thing. yeah well and we all are reading trying to do that let me tell you the parents in my panel did a great job thank you for your brilliant company tonight and importantly and most importantly you at home. i've every minute and we're back tomorrow from eight till 11. is marked down till 11. it is marked down tonight a saturday. the
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tonight on a saturday. and the people's eight people's hour at eight headliners is next evening , alex headliners is next evening, alex deakin. and this is your latest update from the met office. we'll start. this weekend's mild and wet but will end it's with the likelihood of frost ice and the likelihood of frost ice and the possibility of a bit of snow to boot . at the moment, low to boot. at the moment, low pressure systems and fronts are coming in from the south—west, bringing the wet weather and the reasonably mild conditions. it's a bit chilly out there right now, but the rain pushes in from the west. temperatures actually rise through the but the rise through the night. but the rain some further rain could cause some further issues flood warnings issues there. are flood warnings in environment ? in place and the environment? and a met office yellow and we have a met office yellow warning in place for that rain . warning in place for that rain. western england and wales. i said temperatures are actually rising the night so we starts the weekend in the south in double digits . we also start double digits. we also start with quite a bit rain and it'll be blustery. well the winds picking up through the night a wet and windy saturday morning for turning brighter for many turning brighter quite quickly ireland. but quickly in northern ireland. but showers and into showers coming in here and into western scotland where there'll be some snow hills, but
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be some snow on the hills, but brightening up for most of england and during the england and wales during the day. so some afternoon sunshine it'll turn colder through it'll also turn colder through the day. so temperature actually dropping afternoon dropping through afternoon and generally 5 to 7 celsius for most temperatures dropping further on saturday night . the further on saturday night. the winds up across winds whipping up across northern ireland. more rain to come so we have another come here. so we have another met warning place across met office warning place across northern ireland for saturday night. the winds strengthening further north as well and we'll see bit more the way of see a bit more in the way of snow down to low levels snow coming down to low levels across northern scotland by morning. overall, sunday's a dner morning. overall, sunday's a drier and a brighter day. saturday much of eastern england, be showers england, there will be showers further across . the further west, snow across. the mountains of north wales and a little bit in the hills across northern ireland to say generally a lot drier and brighter for most on sunday, but also colder temperatures struggling to much of a 4 to struggling to get much of a 4 to 8 celsius along. the south coast, the winds picking up in the far southwest and the pattern issue for a bit more wet weather night into weather on sunday night into monday morning and as it turns colder, that does bring the risk
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monday morning and as it turns co some hat does bring the risk monday morning and as it turns co some snow. es bring the risk monday morning and as it turns co some snow. keep ng the risk monday morning and as it turns co some snow. keep up the risk monday morning and as it turns co some snow. keep up toe risk monday morning and as it turns co some snow. keep up to date of some snow. keep up to date with the met office weather warnings weekend .
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hi there. it's 11:00. hi there. it's11:00. i'm out armstrong in the gb newsroom manchester city footballer benjamin mendy has been found not guilty of raping women and sexually assaulting another dunng sexually assaulting another during parties at his cheshire home. the france international was of six rape charges at another sexual assault, but the jury another sexual assault, but the jury at chester crown court were unable to reach a verdict on. one count of rape and one of attempted rape. after a six month long trial. many be retried on those two charges in june. retried on those two charges in june . the threat of strike june. the threat of strike action in scotland's nhs has been put on hold while negotiations place over a new pay negotiations place over a new pay offer for this year. the unions say fresh talks with the scottish government expected to
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