t0 good afternoon to good afternoon and welcome to real britain . with me, olivia real britain. with me, olivia utley on tv , online and on utley on tv, online and on digital radio . coming up this digital radio. coming up this houn digital radio. coming up this hour, i'll be asking have the tories lost the ability to govern? why do half of cancer patients need to fight for on the nhs? and is the end of the rail strikes in sight? but first, it's the news with anderson . thanks, olivia. 2:01. anderson. thanks, olivia. 2:01. here's the latest . the uk has here's the latest. the uk has sanctioned iran's prosecutor general following the execution of a british iranian national in iran. ali razak bahri was sentenced to death on charges of spying for britain. foreign secretary james cleverly says the underline our disgust at the killing which rishi sunak has described as callous and cowardly . meanwhile, iran's

cowardly. meanwhile, iran's state media is reporting that the british ambassador has been summoned to iran's foreign over what it describes as london's meddling in national security . a meddling in national security. a union representing ambulance workers has written to the prime minister saying they feel betrayed by attempts , paint them betrayed by attempts, paint them as uncaring . gmb, which as uncaring. gmb, which represents more than 10,000 ambulance staff, told rishi sunak that he was demonising them over action. it comes after mr. sunak told the commons that action was terrifying public. tory mp lee told us earlier letter may not reflect the views of the workers, but the distinction fellaini knows between animals, drivers anomalies, unions and i've spent on a ship with ambulance drivers and they, you know, sometimes tell me a different story to what the unions are telling them. it's about time we start to listen to the average drivers in paramedics rather than in the paramedics rather than the . though we never got the unions. though we never got one and that's to one single agenda and that's to get of those nursing have get rid of those nursing have been paused in scotland after

talks between first minister nicholas sturgeon and royal college of nursing negotiate patients will now continue next week with the aim of reaching a deal by end of february. the scottish government is also pledging to match nhs pay increase in if it's higher. rcn general secretary pat cullen credits pressure from nurses as being to negotiations . rishi being to negotiations. rishi sunak has spoken of his ambition to . send a squadron of british to. send a squadron of british tanks to help ukraine take back terrible tory lost to russian forces . speaking with president forces. speaking with president zelenskyy this morning, he pledged to supply challenger 2 battles tanks alongside , battles tanks alongside, additional artillery systems . additional artillery systems. the decision makes the uk first western power to supply battle tanks to the country . labour tanks to the country. labour says the government has its fullest backing for sending military aid to ukraine. plans to house hundred asylum seekers in a small village near northampton have now dropped by the home office . residents had the home office. residents had

objected to using the 17th century highgate house hotel in crete in which has a population of just 520. james hill is the chairman of the local parish council . he chairman of the local parish council. he told us why residents against the scheme where a village of 520 people and the prospect of 400 people coming to live here without occupation or activities to keep them occupied without access to local services . we felt that was local services. we felt that was unsustainable for us as a community and also for the local area ministers are set to review guidance given landlords who rent out social housing following the death of a two year old boy of ishak died in december 2020 after developing a respiratory condition caused by mould rochdale wide housing, which owned the flat , had which owned the flat, had previously advised his parents paint over it. michael gove says

every landlord in the country needs to ensure that their tenants are housed in decent homes . hormone replacement could homes. hormone replacement could help to prevent outside this disease in women, according to research. the therapy helps control the symptoms of menopause and provides better memory and function for women who carry alzheimer's. gene. professor andrews is a dementia expert . she told us it's really expert. she told us it's really too to know how significant this could . all the research could. all the research indicates that there's some kind link there. there's not anything to see that taking is really going to prevent if it was going to prevent dementia , that would to prevent dementia, that would be really important . but the be really important. but the thing is, there's a chance that it might be associated with a reduction . and when you consider reduction. and when you consider that taking hrt does present risks and it has some side effects , it wouldn't be worth effects, it wouldn't be worth taking. it just solely to prevent dementia . and the prevent dementia. and the government says single use

plates, trays and cutlery will be banned in england from october . it's part of be banned in england from october. it's part of a bid to kerb the impact of plastic on the environment . at the moment the environment. at the moment england uses around point 7 billion pieces of single use cutlery year only 10% is recycled. repeated breaches of the new legislation could lead to retailers and food vendors facing criminal charges . dr. facing criminal charges. dr. christian dunn, senior lecturer in natural sciences at bangor university, told us why the ban is needed . plastic doesn't is needed. plastic doesn't break. break or break down, doesn't decompose right . and doesn't decompose right. and what happens to it is breaks up into smaller , smaller pieces of into smaller, smaller pieces of plastics, which then microplastics or even and now what we're seeing is those plastics are so small and they're being found everywhere. they're in the rain they're in the air that we're breathing in. they're even in our blood. you're watching , listening to gb you're watching, listening to gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now let's get straight back to real britain with olivia

utley utley . utley utley. welcome to real britain this week. with me, olivia . here's week. with me, olivia. here's what's coming up on the show. the government has been dealt fresh blow after the latest polls reveal support for the tories remains at a historic low. with yet another tory rebellion on the. and conservative grandee ken saying a labour government would give his party time to have rest. after more than a decade in power, do you think that tories have lost the ability to govern ? and a survey from macmillan cancer reveals that almost half of patients have had to fight for treatment on the nhs. the charity claims that the delays in care have led to worse outcomes for patients and patients as. it seriously affected their mental health. they say patients were forced take matters into their own hands after they or their loved

ones face barriers to treatment. i'm asking, how has this been allowed to happen ? and then the allowed to happen? and then the nhs has u—turned on controversial transgender plans after a vote by midwives , nurses after a vote by midwives, nurses and midwives and psychology experts. the nhs, national lgbt programme manager behind the project warning it had no evidence base and put maternity wards at risk of ideological capture . was this u—turn the capture. was this u—turn the right thing to do? that's what we're talking about for the next houn we're talking about for the next hour. and i'd love to know your thoughts on these topics. tweet me at gb news or you can email me at gb news or you can email me on gb views. at gbnews.uk you can watch yours online , too, on can watch yours online, too, on youtube. thanks very much . the youtube. thanks very much. the nicholas sturgeon hates the tories is news to no one. but would she go? as far as to change the definition of what it means to be a woman merely order to pick a fight with rishi sunak well, that's certainly what

telegraph columnist and tory grandee charles moore believes. and from the murmurings, i'm heanng and from the murmurings, i'm hearing and hearing in holyrood and westminster , he's not alone to westminster, he's not alone to say that the gender recognition bill is controversial would be a gross understatement . the gross understatement. the legislation, which was rushed through late last year, has sent shockwaves rippling through scotland . it's a complex piece scotland. it's a complex piece of law, but essentially it means that adult scots will be able to change their legal sex after three months of living in their acquired gender without any professional intervention at all. of course, such a seismic change the statute book will have massive ramifications in scotland. it'sjust have massive ramifications in scotland. it's just example a male bodied person trial for sexual offences could hypothetically obtain a gender recognition certificate and end up in a woman's prison , citing up in a woman's prison, citing concerns such this. msps from all parties , including a couple all parties, including a couple of nicola sturgeon's inner, voted against the bill year and many mystified by the first minister's personal determination to secure its safe

passage parliament. given just how niche the issue is, about 30 gender recognition certificates are granted to people born or adopted in scotland each year, and the scottish government's that if the bill passes , is to that if the bill passes, is to increase to around 250 applicants a year. could it be that in that nicholas sturgeon has an ulterior motive? is it possible in fact that the bill is less about trans rights and more the first minister's favourite subject ? scottish favourite subject? scottish independence . that might sound independence. that might sound like a far fetched theory, but that's some evidence to support it . uk government is deeply it. uk government is deeply about the new law because having about the new law because having a differing of the word woman either side of the border opens a legal can of worms . in fact, a legal can of worms. in fact, rishi sunak and his ministers now threatening to block , now threatening to block, arguing that it may be encompassed with the uk wide equality . the snp is in arms at equality. the snp is in arms at such a suggestion , branding it such a suggestion, branding it an attempt by the uk government to undermine the democratic will. the scottish people. which

surprise, surprise us neatly back to the issue of . so is the back to the issue of. so is the first minister simply passionate about the rights of 250 scottish trans people ? or was she trans people? or was she motivated at in part by a desire to cook up a constitutional rule that would distance scotland from the rest of the uk ? perhaps from the rest of the uk? perhaps we'll never know . but one thing we'll never know. but one thing is for certain . would an is for certain. would an ordinary scottish woman are well and truly caught up in the crossfire . now on to one crossfire. now on to one of our top stories today. in an interview with lbc this week former conservative chancellor, lord ken clarke, said that a labour victory at the next general election would be good his party, as it would give them a rest. after more than a decade power. his come as rishi sunak faces a major backbench rebellion over the online safety bill with close to 40 conservative mp supporting amendment that would get off

ofcom more powers to prosecute tech who fail to protect children online . so have the children online. so have the conservatives lost the ability govern? let's give his thoughts on this issue. i'm delighted to be joined former special adviser to michael gove charlie rowley . to michael gove charlie rowley. well, charlie o. to michael gove charlie rowley. well, charlie 0. gb news people's polls suggested that a rating of the tories as it is at a historic low of 21. do you think conservative defeat at next election is just inevitable now ? well, good afternoon . thank now? well, good afternoon. thank you for having me on. and no, i don't think so. and i'm a hugely respectful of the of the poll of your viewers . they are a great your viewers. they are a great bunch of people, but they're only a snapshot of a particular moment in time. there are moment in time. and there are polls could trade across the polls we could trade across the floor, but there were, for example , a couple of weeks ago, example, a couple of weeks ago, there was a poll that said asked, you think would asked, who do you think would still best prime still be the best prime minister? sunak or minister? is it rishi sunak or sir starmer? people think sir keir starmer? people think it's going to be rishi. and even more so that, there was

more so than that, there was another that suggested another poll that suggested for the the the first time that the conservatives going to conservatives are going to be the to govern country the best party to govern country through so through the economic crisis. so they better placed to they will be better placed to deal with the economy than laboun deal with the economy than labour. now, that's something that we wouldn't have thought we'd on the back of we'd be seeing on the back of last the kamikaze, it was last year. the kamikaze, it was called liz truss, and called under liz truss, and consequently progress consequently so progress is being there's way being made. there's a long way to the next general and to go until the next general and i think the way in which the political parties have set out their for people their stall for 2023 people slowly will see that, slowly but surely will see that, you conservatives will you know, the conservatives will deliver on rishi's five priorities out last priorities that he set out last week and we'll start to see that turn around in the polls. i think that one issue is that we do keep seeing quite a big rebellion . that's really we rebellion. that's really we expect to see 40 ps rebellion onune expect to see 40 ps rebellion online safety acts and that's the back of these big rebellions on wind, for example. i think that there's a feeling among employees. i talk to sometimes that the party sort of simply too divided really to get anything done. do you think even if even if the voters as you do, swing behind the tories at the next election, will they be able

to actually govern? well, i think there is. i think that's a fair point, but there is a natural energy when you've got an seat majority, you want to an 80 seat majority, you want to get done and want to get things done and you want to get things done and you want to get obviously and so get things. obviously and so when on wind turbines, if when it's on wind turbines, if it's on the online safety, these are small these are are not small issues. these are things either impact things that will either impact hugely communities or hugely on local communities or particularly and particularly on young people and children's so children's safety online. so they're not small issues. they're tough grapple they're tough debates to grapple with, why i think there with, which is why i think there is split view on some of is such a split view on some of these issues on what is the right approach. but when it comes to the election, it comes to the election, when it comes to the election, when it comes the conservative party getting team, getting together as a team, there's thing it can there's one thing that it can do, which and if that is do, which is win. and if that is the icing, prize, i'm sure the icing, the prize, i'm sure the icing, the prize, i'm sure the will soon come the party will soon come together will laser together again. will its laser like focus winning that election and? it will hopefully go on to do things very optimistic. and? it will hopefully go on to do things very optimistic . we've do things very optimistic. we've also got claire fox , who i think also got claire fox, who i think has a bit of a different view on this issue. in your mind do you think the conservatives as clarke suggests, are just too tired and divided, too, to

actually govern ? well, just actually govern? well, just listening , the comments that listening, the comments that were made it feels both delusional and complacent. the idea that the conservatives are in any way in command of their own party is completely not given by any evidence and from most voters they just feel as though they've been betrayed by god knows, it's like a coalition of a range of different viewpoints with no clear ideological sense of what it stands for anymore. absolutely they ripped the hearts out of anything that they apparently have previously believed in. and just written by technocrats . you just written by technocrats. you know, she can promise a few i will deliver on as as he wants. so the atmosphere as far as i can see, is an outsider within the conservative party . pretty the conservative party. pretty febrile, very to keep any sense of loyalty . there's already a of loyalty. there's already a group that started off in the real conservatives who want find

the conservatism and some of the rebellions. it just to be honest quite diverse. i mean when, i woke up and heard there was a conservative rebellion against the online safety plan. i thought brilliant at last some conservatives have found commitment to free speech, but then i discovered they actually want it to be a hard, more censorious online safety regime. so i don't think that i could guarantee that most people would believe that the conservatives have , by any stretch of the have, by any stretch of the imagination , has maintained that imagination, has maintained that those voters who voted for them basically loaned their votes to the party have been anything than let down. well, claire, i can think plenty of conservative viewers who would agree with you on most of that , but i think on most of that, but i think most of them would think that, yes, rishi sunak perhaps isn't their cup of tea . but the their cup of tea. but the alternative, of course, is c'est . and so i think lots of them will be voting labour conservative at the next

election just for fear of opposite. what would you say to them? well, of course i mean, i'm not a great fan. them? well, of course i mean, i'm not a great fan . the keir i'm not a great fan. the keir starmer alternative and having through some of these constitutional take back control bill ideas. i actually there's a lot to be fearful in relation to an anti jeremy cratic devolved settlement so i could critique them for as long as you want. i'm not concerned so much about whether people vote, labour or conservative. i'm worried about a broader political disillusion with the political establishment and i'm afraid that there is nothing that i am that indicates courage . the present courage. the present conservative. now they could change things around and those things are give an i don't want to fatalistic if rishi for example has the courage to overturn gender recognition act . that would be a sign that he's got a bit of you know on everything from the abandonment of bay and the northern irish

protocol bill which a lot of us kind of supported by right because it was important to see brexit through not allow the northern six of northern ireland to retain england effectively by.the to retain england effectively by. the brussels european elite , but they are kind of backing out of that, that how muddle able whether we're going to developments in greece the inability to deliver on actually houses economic all of these different things . there's a different things. there's a range of things i just don't want the conservatives to imagine that because people are unsure about the labour party can't starmer's betrayal in the past or what have you that that means the concept itself . they means the concept itself. they can float through and win the election. i've been laser sharp focuses. the point is politically , leigh, they've let politically, leigh, they've let the electorate down and they deserve to a certain extent to take that into account and be punished by the electorate. my problem is that they won't vote at all because they've become so

disillusioned . they'll imagine disillusioned. they'll imagine that politics isn't a was playing, which is of course for democracy . charlie, do you think democracy. charlie, do you think thatis democracy. charlie, do you think that is a danger that people just simply won't really see the difference between technocrat rishi sunak and a technocrat . rishi sunak and a technocrat. keir starmer and just won't turn out to vote at the next election. well i do worry there might be a low turnout. i mean, i think people should exercise their democratic right vote. i think people should exercise tithinkamocratic right vote. i think people should exercise tithink what atic right vote. i think people should exercise tithink what people tl vote. i think people should exercise tithink what people to vote. i think people should exercise tithink what people to see »te. i think people should exercise tithink what people to see and i think what people to see and what the what will give that restore towards a trust in people terms of politics that i was just talking about is if you have a government that delivers on its priorities and as i say, rishi set out these five very clear priorities at the of the yean clear priorities at the of the year, was halving year, which was halving inflation, the economy , inflation, growing the economy, cutting the debt, dealing with the nhs, which is clearly the number one issue on many people's minds at the moment. with the strikes ongoing, ambulances able ambulances not being able to give medical attention to give the medical attention to patients and dealing patients in need and dealing with small the with the small boats, the illegal we're illegal crossings that we're seeing funny, very seeing. these are funny, very big priorities that the government out now, government have set out now, especially that now.

especially can deliver that now. i'm hopeful he will. i'm very, very hopeful he will. i'm very, very hopeful he will. i we'll start to see i think we'll start to see people seeing that restored trust in the government and i say it's a long way to go until the next general and people start to have a second look at this government. this conservative government. they might forget about the debacle delays know debacle and delays and you know , under boris and , happened under under boris and all the shenanigans that took place parliament. then place in parliament. then they'll particular they'll at this particular conservative they'll at this particular conserminister and say , okay, prime minister and say, okay, yes, been a bit of a long yes, it's been a bit of a long slog. you've gone through a bit of political turmoil within the party. the party. but for leading the country, you've done the things you've out to deliver, you've set out to deliver, you've set out to deliver, you've achieved. we'll give you a chance and vote for you a second chance and vote for you again election . well, again the next election. well, thank very, very much, clare thank you very, very much, clare and charlie and charlie, of course, are very course, they are very admire your . thank you both your optimism. thank you both very much. that former adviser to michael gove, charlie and the director of the academy ideas, baroness clare fox . plenty more baroness clare fox. plenty more to come this afternoon on real britain after the. a survey from macmillan cancer support reveals almost half of patients have had

to fight for treatment on the nhs. the charity claims patients were forced to matters into their own hands after they or their own hands after they or their loved ones faced barriers to treatment. i'm asking how has this been allowed to happen ? but this been allowed to happen? but first, let's have a look at the weather. hello i'm craig snell. and here's your latest forecast from the met office. well, after we lose the wind and rain today , a change is on the way. it's going to start turn a good code for all of us with an increase risk of snow, especially as we go into next week. here's the situation. the situation. however, at the moment got low moment it's still got low pressure, dominating british pressure, dominating the british isles packed isles and tightly packed talks about across northern ireland, scotland and northern england, indicating weather indicating very windy weather still go the rest of still as we go the rest of saturday. otherwise, as we go into mixture of clear spells showers for a lot of england , showers for a lot of england, wales, we do have this band rain and hail, snow just sinking its way into parts of northern ireland and northern england as the night goes on. but for scotland it turns clearer code a risk of further snow showers and

also some ice on untreated surfaces . so overall, sunday's surfaces. so overall, sunday's going to be a cold day for all of us. really we continue to track this band, rain, hail, snow across and wales, weakening as it does so behind it. plenty of sunshine . still the risk of of sunshine. still the risk of some wintry showers. scotland and quite keen wind here so feeling very cold. hi struggling around 2 to 4 degrees here for the afternoon further south around where we should be for the time of year but certainly feeling a bit colder than what we have been used to. and then into the evening we start to see of rain and showers moving in from the west as it bumps into the air. could see some sleet , the air. could see some sleet, snow, especially of course parts of wales, and then of wales, the midlands and then later on in the night, which is keeping very eye on this keeping a very close eye on this band rain, may move into band of rain, may just move into parts south—east england , parts of south—east england, given some sleet and snow to the high ground by the end of high ground here by the end of the a night for all, the night. a cold night for all, especially scotland, could especially for scotland, could even those to even see those down to minus eight minus ten in a few eight or minus ten in a few spots. and then south, once we lose this rain , really it's a lose this rain, really it's a

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welcome back . this is real welcome back. this is real britain on gb news on tv online and on your digital radio . now and on your digital radio. now link data published by the health service showed a record number of more than 12,000

patients awaiting over three months for account diagnosis and treatment. a poll from macmillan cancer support also found nearly half of cancer patients have had fight for treatment on the nhs . fight for treatment on the nhs. this included making multiple calls to book appointments, asking for an improperly done test to be repeated or following up on delayed scanners . so up on delayed scanners. so what's to blame for these waiting times and. now joining me is kao sikora an and professor of medicine at university of buckingham . it's university of buckingham. it's very nice to see you, carol. i'm sorry. talking about such a miserable subject. do these these findings as a surprise to you at all? well, the last few we've been coming out of cobra quite nicely, but the battle is huge. it goes back two years, really? some patients are having a delay in diagnosis. so it's like unlocking dam when you let the water's out, they start gushing and that's what's happening. the system just can't

cope with the number of . so if cope with the number of. so if you don't ask in wonderful nhs, you don't ask in wonderful nhs, you don't ask in wonderful nhs, you don't this as simple as that . it's not a consumer focussed service. so those that are those push those that make the phone calls or get someone to make the phone calls get treated quicker than those that. don't. it's a very sad situation and i can't see any way around it. and it's not getting any better despite . not getting any better despite. all the noise from nhs england, from all the apparatchiks in the system it's all, it's all okay, it's all under control. it's clearly not under control. can talk us through a bit about the, the causes of these lengthy you mentioned that it dates back a couple of years. is it is it just a hangover from lockdown ? just a hangover from lockdown? it's partly that but it's also the fact that the system before two years ago before covid, all the problems with lockdown really wasn't coping very well. it was just about coping,

especially the stages of cancer. so you know, there's a threshold where people get symptoms that they do something about is meant to take longer than women to do something about it. so well known fact. and when they do something about it. in the past, you got seen reasonably quickly your gp and then in the hospital within a few weeks and so on but now the same journey can months and then once you've got the diagnosis of cancer target is 62 days to start treatment but increasingly that is being failed. it's met only about 60% of the times rather than 95, which the target so things are really bad and all can tell people if they're worried if resort you just have to phone don't be aggressive that's the worse to do. the people that are on the other end of the phone or the reception list is not is doing their best. so don't be aggressive to them . otherwise aggressive to them. otherwise you'll get nowhere and certainly don't start using rude words

because that will get you off the list. so the most important thing is to be reasonable and to really push it if . you haven't really push it if. you haven't got the result of something and you need that result to decide . you need that result to decide. the next part of treatment is going be. so not until you've got it up every day and you've got it up every day and you've got it up every day and you've got it sad that it's got to this. you think you know if you want your eyes testing and an optician advertising on the high street afternoon we have street this afternoon we have the same for the health service absolutely and that's really helpful advice then note that down if you or anyone in your family are suffering from this problem of course with cancer. most important thing as you touch on is it is a quick diagnosis and then a quick starting treatment with these delays and how can we see that ? delays and how can we see that? what will happen is that kind of filters down the pathway of cancer care . so what will tend cancer care. so what will tend to happen is cancer begins in one side breast, lung, colon , one side breast, lung, colon, prostate, for example are four common cancers and it grows

faster within the organ essential stage one and the outcomes going to be very good, 90% chance of complete cure then starts spreading and the time it takes to spread varies enormously depending on the type of cancer , the patient and how of cancer, the patient and how the tumours behave in that patient . a few weeks could make patient. a few weeks could make a difference with stage one and stage two, and maybe a few months difference between getting to stage three and stage four. now stage one cancer, as i said, is 90% curable. stage three and four is less than 80. they're less than % curable. so they're less than% curable. so it's a huge difference. delay really matters, especially in early phases of making the diagnosis. we have all the we have all the skills that's the very frustrating thing . it it's very frustrating thing. it it's a matter of getting some momentum into the health service to push through this backlog so we can get out and then be in a steady state where people can be

diagnosed and treated in a very timely way . diagnosed and treated in a very timely way. thank you . one timely way. thank you. one solution that's raised often by labour politicians, in fact, is just more money to the nhs . but just more money to the nhs. but as we know, obviously the nhs has had a lot more money in the last year and results don't particularly seem to be improving. think more improving. do you think more money is the answer or is it a question of more funding reform? it's reform in the way that really here money could help with the backlog, simply allowing over time. but we can zero if there's if block is getting a ct or mri scan for example. this is a waiting list for that let's have working weekends where everybody comes just as we get the vaccines , just as we get the vaccines, everybody comes in. it's a party atmosphere. have doughnuts and all around for free for the staff. make them feel wanted . staff. make them feel wanted. and let's get through the numbers quickly would be the way to do it. but in the long term reorganisation has got to happen and we've got give the responsibility for running the

service, the people that are actually doing the work doctors and so on not offices and elephant and castle which is where nhs england work. there are sounds of people on salaries well above those that you would expect on the frontline and what they do. none of us really understand . well, thank you so understand. well, thank you so much, carol. so it's fantastic to get your thoughts on this hugely issue affecting so many people , the uk. thank you . now people, the uk. thank you. now an nhs has said the nhs is seeing untreated delays earlier than ever and despite record levels of demand, 94% of patients have started within a month of diagnosis. since the pandemic began , the 2021 pandemic began, the 2021 national cancer patients experience survey showed that patients rated their overall as nine out of ten. as a result, and we hope to keep building on the great care provided by investing millions to expand diagnostic and services and meeting increased demand . you're

meeting increased demand. you're with gb news tv dab radio after the break. the nhs is u—turned on controversial transgender after revolt by midwives , after revolt by midwives, nurses, midwives and psychologists wrote to the nhs national lgbt programme manager behind the project , national lgbt programme manager behind the project, warning it had no evidence and put maternity wards at risk of ideological capture. it was this u—turn at the right thing to do . now it's time for check on the headunes . now it's time for check on the headlines with francis . 2:33. headlines with francis. 2:33. here's the latest. the uk has sanctioned prosecutor general following the execution of a british iranian national in iran. ali reza akbari was sentenced to death charges of spying for britain . foreign spying for britain. foreign secretary james cleverly says the sanctions underline now a disgust at the killing which rishi disgust at the killing which fishisunak disgust at the killing which rishi sunak described as callous and cowardly . meanwhile, iran's and cowardly. meanwhile, iran's state media reporting that the

british ambassador has summoned to the foreign ministry over what it describes as london's meddling in national security . meddling in national security. a union representing ambulance has written to the pm saying . they written to the pm saying. they feel betrayed by attempts to paint as uncaring. gmb which represents more than 10,000 ambulance staff, told rishi he was demonising over strike action. it comes after mr. sunak told the commons that industrial action was terrified showing the pubuc action was terrified showing the public what rishi sunak has of his ambition to send squadron of british tanks to help take back territory lost to russian forces. speaking with president zelenskyy this morning, he pledged to supply challenger to battle tanks alongside additional artillery systems. the decision the uk, the first western power to supply main battle tanks to the country. labour the government has its fullest plans to house 400

asylum seekers in a small village near have now been scrapped by the home office. residents have objected to using 17th century highgate house hotel in cresson, which has population of just over 500. james hill is the chairman of the parish council . he told us the parish council. he told us why residents were against the scheme. we village of 520 people and the prospect . 400 people and the prospect. 400 people coming to live here without occupation or activities keep them occupied without proper access to local services . we've access to local services. we've we that was unsustainable for us as a community and also the local area you're watching and listening . gb news don't go listening. gb news don't go anywhere. olivia be back in just anywhere. olivia be back in just a minute .

welcome back. this is real britain on gb news on tv online , on your radio . now a deal to , on your radio. now a deal to put an end to britain's seemingly never ending rail strike. misery is said to be within touching distance after ministers reportedly scaled back their driver only their demands for driver only operated trains. it's not all good news, however, as the gmb is considering six further dates for ambulance and the british medical association has said it will be recommending strike by junior doctors, which will put further pressure and an already overstretched nhs . to discuss overstretched nhs. to discuss the latest on strikes, i'm joined by political sarah elliot and author and broadcaster rebecca reed. sarah, the seems to have given ground in order to get a deal with rail unions. to have given ground in order to get a deal with rail unions . do get a deal with rail unions. do you think they were right to do that? i mean, we have to get the country up and moving again . country up and moving again. there has to be an end to this stagnation and, especially with the ambulance nhs staff strikers

. so, you know, you do what have to do. i think it's better than actually giving inflationary rate increase in pay because that will only push inflationary spending into next year. so you know, i think it's a good sign and hopefully we'll be back to normal soon. but do you think that's a bit of a worry? sarah if they do do this deal with the rmt, we'll see a sort of domino effect taking place and the government will have to concede on all sorts of issues because sector workers will just demand more and more. i mean, i think it will come to that unless rishi to put up a fight and put his foot down. but i think this government really wants to just get moving , not make a big fuss get moving, not make a big fuss overit get moving, not make a big fuss over it and smooth things out as quickly as possible. and the pubuc quickly as possible. and the public also seems to be with the strikers more than with the government on some these issues. so i think they just want to move on as quickly as possible. rebecca just picking up on what

sarah said there about the government about people, the pubuc government about people, the public being with the strikers, we are seeing, although that is mainly true, we are seeing that the public to be gradually moving away the strikers. do you think that the rmt now under pressure to accept the government's deal ? do you pressure to accept the government's deal? do you think the public will will stay loyal to the strikers indefinitely or is there a bit of resistance coming in now? i think sorry. what a horrible cough . i think what a horrible cough. i think the major issue is that the consciousness can only really hold one concept at a time and the nurses, particularly a beloved profession in general, the pandemic, obviously has left us, especially grateful for the work they do . so i think there's work they do. so i think there's somehow become this tension between the rail strikes and the nurse strikes and. generally speaking, the public are saying the nurses deserve a pay rise and therefore, by dint of that , and therefore, by dint of that, because people accept that not everybody have a pay rise, will you create a bit of a problem?

they've lost the rail strikes have lost sympathy. i think also people are more perhaps more actively for the work the nurses do . so they've got more. and do. so they've got more. and also i think mick lynch been a problem in a sense, even he's an incredibly strong leader . he, incredibly strong leader. he, you know, all of this of him being the grinch at christmas the branding slightly got away from though i think . do you from them though i think. do you think that you talk about how valuable nurses work was during the pandemic? and of course, you're absolutely. we just you're absolutely. but we just heard councillor oncologist heard from councillor oncologist there about the delays cancer treatment. know there's treatment. we know there's massive pressure on. the nhs generally . do you think that was generally. do you think that was the time to be striking or the right time to be striking or do staff have moral do nhs staff have a moral obugafion do nhs staff have a moral obligation keep the show on obligation to keep the show on the road? rebecca i have never felt that they have moral obugafion do felt that they have moral obligation do anything. obligation to do anything. i think a bit of a think we have a little bit of a tendency to fetishise their sacrifice and talk about them as heroes and saints but at the end of the day, whether you are a nurse or doctor or any other professional, what humanity asks, as a volunteer, asks, you're not as a volunteer, you there because it's your job

and get paid do it. and you get paid to do it. i love my job. i my makes me happy. love my job. i my makes me happy- job love my job. i my makes me happy. job makes me feel like happy. my job makes me feel like who am. but if people didn't pay me, i would less enthusiastic me, i would be less enthusiastic about and so think about doing it. and so i think we have bit of a perception we do have a bit of a perception issue particularly issue in terms of particularly nurses and to an extent doctors. and i think we try and read also that that they somehow that sense that they are somehow sort saints that we own who sort of saints that we own who have to work because ultimately it's their career . yeah, i think it's their career. yeah, i think thatis it's their career. yeah, i think that is that, that is a very fair point. rebecca. sara, what you what would you say to that ? you what would you say to that? do you. do you think that there some sort of moral obligation on on doctors and nurses to strike or there a moral obligation on on to give in their to on the to give in to their to get nhs back working shape. get the nhs back working shape. i think there's a moral demand for them to actually work and not sacrifice people's lives for their pay rises. i'm really sorry. i it's absolutely horrific that people are dying because there's ambulance strike going on. when you are in that pubuc going on. when you are in that public role and that's about

saving lives, that's come first and foremost and course they probably do deserve to be paid more. but i don't think they deserve to get that pay rise that the cost to someone's life and being negligent on their own duties. i'm really sorry that i if i were to lose a child or a family because somebody just decided they weren't paid five grand more , four or five grand grand more, four or five grand less, i would be horrific i mean, i'd be absolutely absolutely so angry and. it's a dereliction of duty. i feel like. so you're in a public service role and they to come to grounds of finding salary increase or work condition improvements way. yeah and picking up women trying i think theyi picking up women trying i think they i think i think they tried fairly hard on that front and the argument i never understand that logic is presumably you wouldn't expect them to keep going to work if they were being paid zero. so we accept that they deserve paid at some

they deserve to be paid at some level. so then all negotiating aboutis level. so then all negotiating about is at what terms would it be fair or unfair for them to stop working? but surely you must that wouldn't must accept that you wouldn't it? wouldn't it get it? wouldn't it? wouldn't it get into work for free? no, you shouldn't work for free. but i do think that they have it's different the postman different than the postman striking . it's different than striking. it's different than the people working , the train the people working, the train striking. think they have a striking. i think they have a very and the fire brigade as well. i mean listen they have a very important and sacrificial role and they've decided to take this and god bless them for that. we need them. but you can't just leave people out to i think it's a signal that the entire nhs needs to be revised and, reformed and maybe need to cut the bureaucracy see and send money from one department to another in order keep them and retain them. i mean it is, it's clearly a system that is failing and at its knees and it needs complete reform maybe what the government does in the meanwhile is give them a one time payment

or a one time bonus that helps the lower staff, the lower paid wage staff , you know through wage staff, you know through this very tough inflation and every time but i don't think it's something that can be sustained at the inflation rate and it just needs overall reform . what do you think about that rebecca is it more money that the solution or do we need some sort of root and branch reform and sarah suggests i mean, it's and sarah suggests i mean, it's a very very, very difficult issue because mean the last thing i want is a situation where health care is here like it is in the us or like in some other countries, but there are only two options. the options aren't just america and the uk. and australia, for instance, has the better system. germany has a bioethicist jim in theory, if i guarantee that this is what would actually happen. i would say that the very wealthy should be paying and i would say that things paying be paying and i would say that things payin a gp things paying £15 for a gp appointment being charge if you don't to appointments don't turn up to appointments those things. in theory make sense. difficulty is that i

sense. the difficulty is that i have very little trust for the people and i think people in charge and i think what to sound like what wanting to sound like a conspiracy theorist these are often how big much more toxic changes get snuck in through the backdoor because you with you have to have health insurance if you a if you are over 200 you own a if you are over 200 grand and it' s £50 for grand a year and it's £50 for gbs of and then suddenly gbs of women and then suddenly it' for a appointment it's £100 for a gp appointment and have health and you have to have health insurance, you . thank insurance, whatever you. thank you very much rebecca sarah. you very much rebecca and sarah. i we're going have to i think we're going have to leave there. please leave that there. but please don't will be don't go because i will be coming to you in just a moment. before we move on to our next debate, though, you have been debate, though, of you have been sending your thoughts sending in your thoughts on topics discussing topics we've been discussing today gender recognition . today on gender recognition. nick says you cannot the uk gender laws to other countries that have gender laws in place because . they have different because. they have different cultures, religions , other cultures, religions, other conflicting laws. that not a valid argument to justify uk gender laws . and steve says gender laws. and steve says sturgeon is deceiver and a liar. if conservatives block her gender recognition , they would gender recognition, they would not be blocking the will of the

scottish as the scottish people didn't for it. and there is definitely some agreement with that in scotland where it's shown that up to 60 people don't. 60% of scots are actually really. no what the gender recognition act actually entails . and on whether the conservatives still the ability to govern. ian says the tories don't need a rest need proper policing by conservative party . policing by conservative party. paul policing by conservative party. paul, however, disagrees. he the tory party, in spite of their troubles, remains britain's best and only hope. they need to regain that self—confidence. nice optimistic from paul there. thank you all for sending in your views . now health your views. now health professionals have forced to u—turn from the app, from the nhs. controversial plans to introduce transgender training for at taxpayer expense . the for at taxpayer expense. the project would have cost £100,000 and would have told midwives to use trans inclusive language and pronouns for trans and non—binary birthing people .

non—binary birthing people. around 300 nurses, midwives and psychologists wrote to the manager behind the project, warning that it had no evidence based and pose a risk of ideological capture. still me political commentator sarah elliot , author and broadcaster elliot, author and broadcaster rebecca reed. rebecca you recently gave birth. do you share midwives concerns about this trans inclusive language? i don't share concerns about trans inclusive language. i don't see a need inclusive language. i don't see a nee d £100,000 to be spent to a need £100,000 to be spent to teach midwives how to use pronouns. i think there was a very big problem with the way that midwifery health visiting works in this country. because i was told things different in every single in every single appointment . so the first appointment. so the first appointment. so the first appointment they said get the covid vaccine. the second one, she said, oh, i wouldn't if i were you. the third one, she said, do you have to, otherwise you'll die. the fourth one, she said, no, i wouldn't that said, no, no, i wouldn't do that if you. similarly, things if i were you. similarly, things breastfeeding about formula. there so much misinformation there is so much misinformation and so much often very problematic behaviours from

midwives. in my experience that actually to be teaching about pronouns feels like the last thing need to worry about. thing we need to worry about. given that zero half a% of people the uk are trans of, which only a than half of those people could have a baby . so people could have a baby. so we're talking about people could have a baby. so we're talking abou t £100,000 to we're talking about £100,000 to change, to educate how to deal half of half of the% of the people in the uk and who is pregnant of that half a% i'm going to i think it's probably about 30 pregnant trans people in the uk right now and most of them are perfectly of going in to the appointment saying, i am trans transgender, these are my dumb . now, sarah, i can see you dumb. now, sarah, i can see you nodding there. what do you think? do think it would be a sensible use of think? do think it would be a sensible use 0 f £100,000 of sensible use of £100,000 of taxpayer money? heck no, it's not. and like and like rebecca, i've had children on the nhs too, and they can spend their time doing much greater and more worthwhile thing. and my thing is, let's treat people the way

you want to be treated. treat people respect. but i don't think it needs be taught to teach midwives and nurses how to use pronouns as long as you respectful to somebody who's different and they introduce themselves in a certain way then you can address them that way. but let's be honest here, only women can have children, only have wombs and i'm sorry, biological women , we cannot. biological women, we cannot. this movement cannot erase what a woman is. we're over 50% of the population and we're actually outnumber men and it just it's nonsense. and it's not science based. but if somebody does that way, treat them with respect . do you think, sarah, respect. do you think, sarah, that saying that it could be the next tavistock scandal is a bit of overreaction or is that fair? no i think that's very fair. this is an captured type move. there's nothing that study showed there's clinically credible about it . that's why credible about it. that's why it's being reviewed . and this is it's being reviewed. and this is not coming from the grassroots .

not coming from the grassroots. people are not demanding to called birthers , people who called birthers, people who bleed and that sort of saying this is clearly coming from a very small minority which the group with women who protested this said that one in 2000 people would show up to a midwife that's non—binary or trans with this need . so most trans with this need. so most midwives would never even come across a trans non—binary pregnant person. so i rebecca, one argument is that pregnant person. so i rebecca, one argument is tha t £100,000 is one argument is that £100,000 is actually a drop in the ocean compared to general nhs spending. there are people who would say that, you know, anything to help trans people at all. historically marginalised is beneficial. all. historically marginalised is beneficial . a £100,000 isn't is beneficial. a £100,000 isn't really much to be spending on on helping best practise. what would you say them. i would say that. i understand that and i we had unlimited money then. sure but you know black women or it's either four or five times more likely to die in childbirth in

the uk. so the black maternal, the uk. so the black maternal, the black mortality . so the the black mortality. so the black maternal rate in the uk should a source of national shame . and i have to say and shame. and i have to say and thatis shame. and i have to say and that is literally there is there was a properly regulated scientific demonstrate that a lot of it is about towards black women in pregnancy drug seeking behaviour is something that black women often characterised as having completely illogically black women are statistically less likely to be given the appropriate medical treatment. i would say if we're going to start throwing money at fixing problems , would like to see that problems, would like to see that being the absolute number one in maternity rates maternity breastfeeding rates dismal in this country. i personally wasn't to breastfeed. that's something we could be fixing . i just feel like women fixing. i just feel like women are actually making a laundry list of the things we need fix in terms of maternity care. this isn't the number one. and also of the trans people i know they are not these demanding, grabby, angry people. they're characterised as the trans. i know what's quietly going with

their lives, not being talked about time and about all the time and characterised somebody characterised as somebody who wants to have language rewritten, don't . rewritten, which they don't. it's interesting what you say there ethnic minority women there. ethnic minority women facing worse barriers than other women. and i've heard argument, which i thought was very interesting, that one of the problems with trans inclusive language , a health setting, is language, a health setting, is that just simply isn't very clear. so, for example, a poster all women to get a smear is straightforward, but someone speaks english as a second language, sees , sees. that woman language, sees, sees. that woman has been replaced with the word cervix. a for example it cervix. have a for example it could mean that that person doesn't go to get a smear test for that could save their lives. do think that's worry or is do you think that's worry or is that sort of overstating matters rebecca is it is a little bit of a concern to me because am a woman and for me being a woman is tied up with having a uterus in the cervix and all that stuff. and my experiences being a woman are very much rooted in pregnancy miscarriage and, pregnancy and miscarriage and, sexual assault and, puberty and

all of those things. so i like to see them divorced from the concept womanhood and i think what i really don't like is idea of being reduced to being a buffer, for instance, because lots of women don't have children. and same thing cervix however, very complicated however, is very complicated because women are born because all women who are born without cervix is so to suggest the two things and the same thing . women's right are plenty thing. women's right are plenty of women who are biologic women who don't menstruate . i just who don't menstruate. i just think that we're to have the word woman was working fine and you don't see people trying to choose what or the prostate care leaflets will say man so that that does suggest to me that perhaps there's not a total balance in how we're addressing . three women in a room and you get quite a lot of agreement on this issue. sarah of course we do know that this sort of language is creeping into public information everywhere. do you think the fight for the sort of language that rebecca is talking about has been lost. do you think that now just seeing a general trend towards this sort

of trans inclusive language everywhere ? i mean, it's everywhere? i mean, it's definitely popping its head up everywhere , but there's also everywhere, but there's also a backlash to it . and it's, i backlash to it. and it's, i think, encouraging to see is that this was the first time in the nhs history where internally they were able to stop or at least an ideological capture moment and reverse quite quickly. the thing is, it's completely illogical of this and it confuses everybody . and so it confuses everybody. and so i don't think it has long changing the language , sex defying and the language, sex defying and also not talking about biological differences . i do biological differences. i do think that it will be on the ash heap of history at some but we have to continue to fight it and especially for the women and women's rights , as rebecca said, women's rights, as rebecca said, it's not happening in the men's world. you don't really hear trans woman. you hear a lot about trans men . and so it is about trans men. and so it is i think, a direct, misogynistic attack , women. and it's also

attack, women. and it's also going against gay rights and gay individuals who don't want to transition to trans. there is a complication there . and so we complication there. and so we have to really be on guard where these activist groups are penetrating especially our schools and medical fields. well, thank you very much . sarah well, thank you very much. sarah elliot and rebecca reed . and it elliot and rebecca reed. and it was nice to get a bit of agreement at the end there. now, nhs confirmed that the decision to pause the training was made on january the 11th. a spokesman said the nhs has already this program while we look into its scope so that it is based on the latest evidence . this is real latest evidence. this is real britain on at gb news tv, online and on your digital radio. plenty more coming up on show. but first, here's your forecast. hello there. i'm craig snow. and here's the latest forecast from the met office. well, after we lose the wind and rain today , a lose the wind and rain today, a change is on the way. it's going to start to turn a good deal code for all of us. we've

increase in risk of snow, especially as we into next especially as we go into next week. here's situation. week. here's the situation. however, at the moment still got low pressure dominating the british isles and tightly packed ice across northern ice about across northern ireland and northern ireland scotland and northern england very england indicating. some very windy as . we go windy weather still as. we go through the rest of saturday. otherwise we into tonight otherwise as we into tonight a mixture of clear spells and showers for a lot of england and wales. we do have this band of rain and hail snow sinking its way into parts of northern and northern england as the night on but scotland it turns but for scotland it turns clearer colder risk of some further snow showers and also some ice on untreated surfaces. so overall sunday's going to be a cold day for all us, really. we continue to this band of rain and hail, snow across england and hail, snow across england and wales, weakening as does so behind it. plenty sunshine. still the risk of wintry showers for scotland and quite keen wind here. so feeling very cold. hi. struggling around 2 to 4 degrees here for the afternoon further south around where we should for the time of year but certainly a

bit colder than what we have been. bit colder than what we have been . you stay and then into the been. you stay and then into the evening we start to see bands of rain and showers moving in from the west as it bumps into the colder. could see some sleet and snow across parts of wales and, the midlands and then later on in keeping a very in the night is keeping a very close on this rain may close eye on this band. rain may just move parts of south—east england, even given some sleet and high ground by and snow to the high ground by the end of the night a cold night all, especially for night for all, especially for could see those down to could even see those down to minus eight or minus ten in a few spots. and then monday south once we lose this rain really a day of sunny spells a few wintry showers and theme then continues into and wednesday. watch for frost by night and the further risk of some snow at times over.

good afternoon and welcome to real britain me olivia utley on tv online and digital radio. plenty more coming up on today's programme. but first is the news with ray addison addison . good with ray addison addison. good afternoon. 3:01. here's the latest from gb newsroom. the uk sanctioned iran's prosecutor general following the execution of a british iranian national in iran . ali reza akbari was iran. ali reza akbari was sentenced to death on charges of spying for britain. foreign secretary james says the sanctions underline our disgust at the killing rishi sunak describing it as callous and cowardly. meanwhile, iran's media is reporting that the british has been summoned to the foreign ministry over what it describes london's meddling in . describes london's meddling in. national a union representing workers has written to the

minister saying they feel betrayed . attempts to paint them betrayed. attempts to paint them uncaring. gmb represents more than 10,000 ambulance staff told rishi rishi sunak he was demonising them over. strike action. it comes after mr. sunak told the commons that industrial action was terrifying. the pubuc. action was terrifying. the public . tory action was terrifying. the public. tory mp lee anderson us earlier. the letter may reflect the views of the workers , but the views of the workers, but listening to their fellaini notes between animals, drivers anomalies , unions and i've spent anomalies, unions and i've spent times on a ship with ambulance and they you know, sometimes they tell me a little a different story to what the union's telling them. it's about time we start to listen to the average drivers and the paramedics. rather than the unions, though never one unions, though we never one single and that's get single agenda and that's to get rid those nursing strikes rid of those nursing strikes have paused scotland after have been paused scotland after talks between first minister nicholas sturgeon and royal college of nursing negotiate ations will continue next. now with the aim of reaching a deal by the end of february the scottish government is also pledging to match any nhs pay

increase in if it's higher. rcn general secretary pat cullen has credited pressure from nurses as being to these negotiations . being to these negotiations. rishi has spoken of his ambition to send a squadron of british tanks to help ukraine take back territory he lost to russian forces . speaking with president forces. speaking with president zelenskyy this morning, he pledged to supply to battle tanks alongside additional artillery systems. the decision makes the uk the first western power to supply battle tanks to the country . labour says the the country. labour says the government has its backing for sending military aid to ukraine, plans to house 400 asylum seekers in a small village near northampton have now been by the home office . residents had home office. residents had objected to the 17th century highgate house hotel in britain, which has a population of just over 500. james hill is the chairman of the parish council. he told us why residents are

against the scheme . we are against the scheme. we are village of 520 people and the prospect for coming to live here without , occupation or without, occupation or activities keep them occupied without , proper access to local without, proper access to local services which felt that was uncertain attainable for us as a community and, also for the local area , police have now been local area, police have now been lifted at site of a fatal dog attack . surrey. the case from attack. surrey. the case from spot was closed off on thursday after a 28 year old woman was attacked while several dogs. paramedic cars were unable to save her and she pronounced dead at the scene. specialist teams have been carrying out forensic work as part of an investigation by surrey police. no arrests have been made . ministers are have been made. ministers are set to review guidance given to landlords rent out social housing following the death of a

two year old boy. while the ishaq died in december 2020 after developing a spur a tree condition caused by mould rochdale borough wide housing, which owned the flat approved fiercely advised his parents to paint over it. michael gove says every landlord in the country needs to ensure that their tenants are in decent homes . tenants are in decent homes. hormone replacement could help to prevent disease in women . to prevent disease in women. that's according to new research . the therapy helps control symptoms of menopause and could provide better memory cognitive function for women who carry the alzheimer's gene . professor june alzheimer's gene. professor june andrews says dementia expert she told us it's really too early to know how significant this could be . other research indicates be. other research indicates that there's some kind link there. there's not anything yet to see that taking hrt is really going to prevent if it was going to prevent dementia , that would to prevent dementia, that would be really important . but the

be really important. but the thing is, there's a chance it might be associated with a reduction and when you consider that taking does present some risks and it has some side effects it wouldn't be worth taking it just to prevent dementia . clinton national news. dementia. clinton national news. brazil's supreme court has opened an investigation into president bolsonaro for, the brazilian riot. mr. has allegedly encourage anti—democratic protests which endedin anti—democratic protests which ended in the vandalisation of government buildings in the capital last weekend. the former president currently in florida, but has said will return to brazil to turn himself in. the government says single plastic plates trays and cutlery will be banned. plates trays and cutlery will be banned . england from october in banned. england from october in a bid to kerb the impact of plastic on the environment at the moment uses around 2.7 billion pieces of single use cutlery every . only 10% is cutlery every. only 10% is recycled. repeated breaches of the legislation could lead to

and food vendors facing criminal charges. dr. christian dunn is a senior lecturer in natural sciences at bangor university. he told us why the ban is needed . plastic doesn't break, break, break down doesn't decompose right away. and what happens to it is it breaks up into smaller and smaller pieces of plastics, which then microplastics or even nanoplastics. and now what we're seeing is those plastics are small and they're being everywhere. they're in the rain , they're in the air that we're breathing in. they're even in our blood . you're watching and our blood. you're watching and to gb news, we'll bring you more as it happens. now, let's get straight back to . straight back to. welcome back to real britain. here's coming up on the show. channel migrants who arrive in the uk on days will face rapid

removal from the uk under new rules being considered by home secretary suella braverman. the new legislation will set out further measures to tackle spunous further measures to tackle spurious asylum claims. with every who came in via a safe country like france to have that asylum claim rejected . is this a asylum claim rejected. is this a step in the right direction ? step in the right direction? then the church of england has committed £100 million to a fund. it is setting up to compensate for its historical benefit , the international slave benefit, the international slave trade. but critics of the plan say the church needs to sort out its own house before paying for slavery reparations. is this a smart move, considering the concern over parishes already stretched finances and prince harry's popularity falls further? a spare hits the shelves. with four in ten britons saying they think the motivation behind the book's release was making money, harry and meghan are now so disliked by older persons that their popularity ratings are even lower than prince andrew's. that's what we're talking about for next hour , and i'd love to

for next hour, and i'd love to know your thoughts on those topics. tweet me at gb news or you can email me on gb views at gbnews.uk. you can watch us online, too, on youtube. thank you much . ministers reported you much. ministers reported considering a change the law which would ban channel migrants from claiming asylum. meanwhile, the former chancellor philip hammond sparked ire many conservatives this week when . he conservatives this week when. he suggested the uk needs to accept more migrants. he said if our economy is going to prosper , economy is going to prosper, we're going to have to bring in hundreds of thousands foreign workers to do the jobs that are currently not being done, which is growth . is depressing our gdp growth. additionally, home office plans to house asylum seekers in a former hotel creation have been scrapped . opposition from scrapped after. opposition from the council mp. now the local council mp. now joining me to discuss these is immigration stories are lawyer ivan watson, immigration lawyer and nigel nelson who political

editor of the sunday and sunday people even. can you tell us more about the government's plans and whether you think they'll have any impact on the number of people attempting to illegally and the uk ? yes illegally and the uk? yes certainly these plans are nothing new. in fact, it's a tweak of plans which have existed since 1st of january two, 21. and when those new rules are brought in, the government said it would make inadmissible and an asylum claim from a person who either came from a person who either came from a person who either came from a safe third country or came from a safe country where they could have claimed. it was mimicking the convention . the mimicking the convention. the problem with with those with those plans were that the safe third country had to accept them back. hence you could only return people without third countries said yes, we have them back. now, with rwanda the rules also allow them to return not to the country where they come, where they came from , but to where they came from, but to another safe country only rwanda. so this is all linked in

to got the government's role under plan. now, the problem also that they've got six months under the old system in which to make a decision. i don't think i don't see how they see how they can get round that. and also they've got to collect information from the asylum seekers about where they came from . we're no longer part of from. we're no longer part of the so we don't have access to the so we don't have access to the eu database . so we don't the eu database. so we don't know whether they've claimed asylum in france, germany, italy or any other country. so there's a few problems this. these proposals . thank you . nigel. proposals. thank you. nigel. what do you think ? don't you what do you think? don't you think it actually makes sense to 7 think it actually makes sense to ? deny someone asylum who's passed through a safe country before entering the uk. if they were genuine asylum seekers wouldn't they have just settled in safe country that in the first safe country that they at? well, this is they arrived at? well, this is they arrived at? well, this is the problem that we faced after brexit that. before that, we had a system whereby we could any asylum who came here , who had asylum who came here, who had appued asylum who came here, who had applied for asylum in the eu .

applied for asylum in the eu. now the situation is because we've lost that that right to do that , we now have to negotiate that, we now have to negotiate with 27 member states individually to reinstate that of system. so the question really is why is the government not doing that? that if an asylum seeker makes a claim in france , germany or holland or france, germany or holland or wherever, it's quite right. if they try and make a second claim here, they should be to the country where they made the flight. but until we actually get those agreements in place, we can't do that . ivan would we can't do that. ivan would agree that this is just a brexit problem. essentially is there a bit more to it than that? no, i agree with the comments made that nobody did the thinking about. they were so concerned coming out of the eu that one really thought about what's going to happen to those people entering the country . across the entering the country. across the channel the other problem is that it's a conflict between

national laws and the refugee convention because refugee convention because refugee convention doesn't state that you have to enter a country legally in fact it allows to enter a country illegally even so far as to use a fake passport . these new proposals , they . these new proposals, they mean, is that the only way anyone can claim asylum is to come directly from their own country to the uk . there's no country to the uk. there's no other way. so essentially, we're coming out of the convention in a in a backdoor route . what the a in a backdoor route. what the government is saying is that we don't want asylum seekers claiming in the uk. you can enact any laws you like . but enact any laws you like. but they must be fair. just and morally correct . it's a bad look morally correct. it's a bad look for this internationally . yeah. for this internationally. yeah. nigel. it's been that one of the big problems is that got all these people coming illegally to these people coming illegally to the uk because they're all safe and legal routes for genuine asylum seekers to get here. do you think that's that is a

problem? yes i mean, that's the nub of the problem . i mean, this nub of the problem. i mean, this is exactly the point that it doesn't matter how. you get to this country what you've got to do if you to asylum is be within our borders or at least at border , that is. so that is the border, that is. so that is the law works or in fact, where we use of language like a legal migrants. there's nothing illegal about crossing the channel to claim asylum. nothing illegal about a claiming asylum that's protected under international law . and every international law. and every refugee is at least at the starting point, an asylum seeker. although not all asylum seekers are refugees . but nigel, seekers are refugees. but nigel, would you say that there's a problem with some of these people who are coming across from france obviously in less immediate danger than people who are actually in camps in war torn countries, for example , torn countries, for example, there's an argument that some of these people are sort of clogging up the system and

making impossible to access making it impossible to access for seekers. and for genuine asylum seekers. and that behind the that seems to be behind the government's determination to get possible. get them removed as as possible. what that? what would you say to that? well, mean , where do you send well, i mean, where do you send them to that if they come from france, then france has got to agree . take them back, which agree. take them back, which means we have that returns. agreed that we once had when we were a member of the eu. the problem is with the asylum system . so what we should do and system. so what we should do and this probably an international problem, what we should do is change the rules so somebody can claim asylum outside the country . they don't have to be here to do it. now, the unhcr runs resettlement schemes from various refugee camps and that's made use of by america , germany, made use of by america, germany, sweden and a number of other countries . i think that we've ceuntries. l think—that—�*xe—�*ve ,,,,_,_,, taken countries. lthink—thet—we—�*ve ,, taken back to countries. itninic—tnet—�*ue—�*ue .— taken back to syrians actually taken back to syrians in the last 18 months through the escape . now there would be the escape. now there would be a way for where people would gravitate. then to refugee camps

if they were refugees . there you if they were refugees. there you would you would enter an asylum claim. doesn't mean that they would automatically come here, but they would go to a country which is most suitable for them that take take away the draw that take take away the draw that brings them to calais. aides across the channel to get into britain. sounds like nigel's focus rather better than some of our politicians. nigel's focus rather better than some of our politicians . even some of our politicians. even keir starmer's solution to this problem seems to be to tackle the problem upstream, he keeps saying and strike a deal with the french. so far the french have been pretty intransigent. havei have been pretty intransigent. have i know is that a is that a realistic proposal? well, look , realistic proposal? well, look, you've got a horse trade with the french. you've to find out what it is they want. but can i just say for nigel, the he made is absolute right. this is a global problem. it needs to unsee your needs to get a grip . unsee your needs to get a grip. this. there needs to be new international treaty where countries take their fair share or asylum. seek or looks like

we've lost ivan. it's a global problem . no single country can problem. no single country can solve this. and it's not just france. because, remember, asylum are going through many other countries and quite often going through like turkey. so the borders actually are much further away. this is a global needs, a global solution . the needs, a global solution. the unchr and country need to get together and, come to an international treaty whereby each country takes their fair share of asylum seekers and looking a bit to home. what do you both think really of philip hammond's that the uk needs import thousands of foreign workers in order to boost economic growth . nigel, i'll economic growth. nigel, i'll start with you . well, i mean, start with you. well, i mean, the answer is yes. do. we just need the right workers in the right places. so for instance, we had a real problem getting agricultural workers in. they used to come from eastern europe. they stopped doing that.

that was partly the pandemic. and again partly brexit. so we obviously need foreign workers for certain jobs. so philip is right that that doesn't mean immigration or anything like that. it just simply means that we bring people in that we need the jobs that need to be done . the jobs that need to be done. well, we've lost ivan there. so think we'll have to move on. but you so much, nigel and i'll even something . in now my gb news something. in now my gb news colleague gloria pirro has an exclusive interview with a labour mp, kim leadbeater. she opens up about the murder of her sister, jo cox. how much more needs to be done to politicians and why she will never hold open surgeries with the voters in the wake of her sister's murder? i think it's really funny, isn't it? loss is very strange , is it? loss is very strange, is very strange. and at the centre of any loss, it's a bit like an onion, isn't it? you've got

losing that person and then you've got the circumstances around, that loss. and like i lost my grandparents ripe old age is of nineties and that was sad but it wasn't tragic and we were all upset but we weren't devastated. you've got losing people through illness. you've got losing people through know all sorts of different circumstances. i murder circumstances. i think murder just gives everything, a whole new dimension . and you can watch new dimension. and you can watch the full interview on gloria meets every sunday at 6 pm. plenty more to come afternoon on real britain . after the break, real britain. after the break, the church of england has committed hundred million pounds to a fund it's setting up to compensate for its benefit from the international slave trade. but critics of the plan say the church needs to sort its own house out before paying for woke slavery reparation . is this a slavery reparation. is this a smart move, considering the concern over parishes already finances. first, let's have a look at the weather . hello look at the weather. hello there. i'm craig . and here's the there. i'm craig. and here's the latest forecast from the met

office. well, after we lose the windermere rain today, a change is on the way. it's going to start to turn a good deal code for all of us with an increase in risk of snow as we go into next week. here's the situation, however, still got however, the moment still got low . the low pressure dominating. the british tightly packed british isles and tightly packed icy bars across northern ireland, scotland and northern england, indicating some very windy weather still as we through rest of saturday. through the rest of saturday. otherwise, as we go into tonight, mixture of clear spells showers for a lot of england . showers for a lot of england. wales we do have this band of rain and hail snow just sinking its into parts of northern ireland and northern as the night goes on. but for scotland it turns clearer code a risk of some further snow showers and also some ice untreated surfaces . so overall, sunday's going to be a cold day for all of us, really. we to track this band of rain , hail, snow across england rain, hail, snow across england and wales, weakening as it does so behind it plenty of sunshine still . the risk of some wintry still. the risk of some wintry showers for scotland. quite keen wind here. so feeling very cold.

hi. struggling around 2 to 4 degrees here for the afternoon service off around where we should be for the time of year but certainly feeling a bit colder than what we have been use day and then the evening we start to see bands rain and showers moving in from the as it bumps into the colder air could see some sleet and snow especially across parts of wales and midlands and then later on in night keeping in the night which is keeping a very eye on this band of very close eye on this band of rain may just move into parts of south—east england even given some to the high some sleet and snow to the high ground the the night. ground by the end of the night. a cold night for all, especially for could see for scotland, could even see those to down minus eight or minus ten in few spots. and then monday south, once we lose this rain really , it's a day of sunny rain really, it's a day of sunny spells , a few wintry showers spells, a few wintry showers and. that theme then continues into tuesday and wednesday, widespread frost by night. and the further of some snow at times . some the further of some snow at times. some days on gb newsroom 930, it's camilla tominey for a politics show with personality.

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channel welcome back . channel welcome back. is real britain on gb news on online and on your digital radio. the church of england has been criticised by a pansh england has been criticised by a parish campaign group for establishing a £100 million fund to address the past wrongs of slavery. reverend marcus walker, chairman of the save parish group, said the church has shown that it has money when it wants for matters that it cares about . before the church can find

£100 million for this new project, it needs to show it can sort out its own house and fund its own front line victims of church related abuse have also still not received their promised payments, which has led some question the church's priorities . now some question the church's priorities. now joining me is the chaplain to queen the former chaplain to queen elizabeth, second and associate editor of the catholic, dr. gavin ashenden . gavin, what were gavin ashenden. gavin, what were your thoughts when ? you first your thoughts when? you first read story ? well, i agree read this story? well, i agree with , marcus walker and also the with, marcus walker and also the victims of abuse , the church of victims of abuse, the church of england has a pot of £10 billion, which is really quite a lot of money. and over the last of years, they've said to parishes , it's been a kind of parishes, it's been a kind of struggle between parish, the bureaucracy and parishes in. the parishes have said, we're running out of money, running out of people. we need some help from you r £10 billion pot. and from your £10 billion pot. and they've told they can't have any. particularly any. so it's particularly demoralising for them, i think, when a woke ideology when suddenly a woke ideology begins to grab the archbishop of canterbury and his colleagues and they can suddenly find £100 billion for historic reparations

which which can certainly have a lot of difficulty with them. it's very difficult to make a case for paying people for something that happened 6 to 10 generations ago. and there are a whole lot of other complications about whether or not this such a thing as corrupt money itself. so all in all, i they've made a really serious error of judgement that's liable to do demoralise their people very demoralise their own people very badly . yeah. and do we know any badly. yeah. and do we know any details about how this money will be spent. as far as i can see, it's quite a vagu e £100 see, it's quite a vague £100 million promise to vaguely address the wrongs of slavery . address the wrongs of slavery. do any more details than do we have any more details than that? think we that? well, i don't think we it's one of those sort of good ideasit it's one of those sort of good ideas it appears to be solving a conscience. i mean, first of all, who do you pay it to? i mean, one argument is that, you pay mean, one argument is that, you pay it back to the people of this country who had to buy off the slave owners in 1833. so the government took out a loan in 1833, which was paid for by

taxpayers since then, and only paying taxpayers since then, and only paying it in 2014. so you could say that is the church of england has, as huge sum of money with which to pay reparation the first people. it owes money to other taxpayers who bought the freedom . those who bought the freedom. those slaves hundred and 50 years ago. but the answer is it's too complicated to work out. and any direct form of reparation, which is why looks like sort of guilt money. it's a good idea. buying guilt if you accept the woke accusations and many people don't accept woke accusations . don't accept woke accusations. and do you think that that's what the problem is a sort of wokeness issue is it that the archbishop canterbury sort of genuinely feels guilty this or does he just think that this is the sort of fashionable thing to do and his image will look better if he he panders to this mob essentially. do you think that's an issue. no, i'm sure genuinely feels bad about it. he's going work for a few years. it's and i'm sure it's full of

integrity. that's how he feels . integrity. that's how he feels. the trouble is he's he's he's allowed himself i think to be blackmailed by the woke community as so many people have . i mean, it's a bit like the way in which, you know, the black lives matter people held up their hands and said, don't shoot, don't shoot to british policemen no british policemen when no british policemen when no british policemen where arms in the policemen have where arms in the first place, where we were just in american . and in one in porting american. and in one sense that's is another sense that's this is another example the whole issue of example of it the whole issue of african african—american slavery essentially an american domestic that they've never sorted out, but because we are so open to the cultural pressures from america , it appears that we've america, it appears that we've adopted them without thinking . adopted them without thinking. but but you'd hope that the archbishop of canterbury, his advisers, would have a more advisers, would have a bit more intellect or moral muscle to intellect or the moral muscle to be able think themselves, be able to think for themselves, rather accept american rather than just accept american cultural pressures . marcus cultural pressures. marcus argument is that money should be sent to sort of parish front lines. we've seen month on month pansh lines. we've seen month on month parish attendance at church

declining. do you think there is a way to resurrect the these sort of old fashioned anglican pansh sort of old fashioned anglican parish proper investment ? oh, parish proper investment? oh, there certainly is. i mean the whole of my lifetime, there's been a stand off the bureaucracy and the parishes and the parish has been saying, i, you know, we can't we have so many fewer people and so many elderly people and so many elderly people and so many elderly people and the buildings are very expensive and also there's this principle that the church england relies on, which is it? it has a parish, a church in every single community. but this can't be funded locally. it simply can't be. all credit simply can't be. and all credit to marcus walker and his very competent colleagues who started the save the parish campaign as way of trying to wake up the bureaucracy and to them look there's only we only have so many resources but you do at least have this many resources but you do at least have thi s £10 billion pot. least have this £10 billion pot. it makes sense to save the organise nation before it collapses in bankruptcy. so yes, i'm all with marcus walker and i'm all with marcus walker and i'm i just hope that for his

sake , the sake of the parishes sake, the sake of the parishes and in the church of england, the bureaucracy will wake up to their responsibilities to the people on the ground . i suppose people on the ground. i suppose some people would say that the only to stop the church of only way to stop the church of england, put it, england, as you put it, collapsing bankruptcy is to collapsing into bankruptcy is to attract younger people and to perhaps way to do that is if young people are more liberal minded to sort of do stunts like this , like 100 million to this, like 100 million to reparation slavery fund. what would you say to them? well at first sight, of course, that's a good argument. i'm glad you put it, because i'm sure a lot of people are thinking like that. but trouble is it's part of but the trouble is it's part of a much more complicated picture. so christianity in the west is under enormous amount of pressure . and actually the pressure. and actually the evidence in roman church is evidence in the roman church is that attract young people, that you attract young people, not when you go to work , but not when you go to work, but when live with some kind of when you live with some kind of cult, cultural, christian cult, a cultural, christian integrity has the answers to a good many of our social, particularly mental illness and existential instability . and the

existential instability. and the answer seems to be exactly the opposite of the argument you've sensibly produced to be tested, and that is that it's by going woke that you attract young , but woke that you attract young, but by living with integrity. so the church of england needs to try it's try and live with christian integrity and not accept all the woke social changes of cultural progress as they've been presented to them. it's not consistent with what jesus taught us. not with the bible. it's consistent with it's not consistent with holiness tradition. it's holiness or tradition. it's a recipe for disaster. even though on paper it looks like it might work . but we need they need they work. but we need they need they we need to more deeply than that. well you so much, gavin ashton. fantastic. hear ashton. it's fantastic. hear your this very issue your thoughts on this very issue . a spokesperson for church commissioners for england who announced the establishment of the we recognise the fund said, we recognise investment comes at a time when there are significant financial challenges many people and challenges for many people and churches the church has churches and when the church has commitments address other commitments to address other wrongs . our commitments to address other wrongs. our past. will wrongs. our past. we will continue to these groups and remain committed to existing funding obligations. in 2022, we

announced 30% increase in our funding . the church of england, funding. the church of england, which will amount to 1.2 billion in the next three years. you're with gb news on tv dab radio after . the break for with gb news on tv dab radio after. the break for this harry's popularity further a spare bookshelves . with four in spare bookshelves. with four in ten britons saying they think his motivation publishing the book with making money. harry and meghan are now so disliked older persons that their popularity are even lower than the prince andrew's. now it's time for a check on the headunes time for a check on the headlines with out of those . headlines with out of those. thanks, olivia. 3:33. here's the latest. the uk sanctioned iran's prosecutor general following the execution of a british iranian national in iran , ali reza national in iran, ali reza akbari was sentenced to death on charges spying for britain. foreign secretary james cleverly says the sanctions underline our disgust . the killing rishi sunak disgust. the killing rishi sunak describing it as callous and

cowardly. meanwhile, iran's state media is reporting that the british ambassador has been summoned to iran's ministry over what it describes as london's meddling in national security . meddling in national security. a union representing ambulance workers has written to the pm saying they feel betrayed by attempts, paint them as uncaring . gmb, which represents more than thousand ambulance staff, told rishi sunak he was demonise them over strike action . it them over strike action. it comes after mr. sunak told the commons that industrial action was terrifying the public he rishi sunak has spoken of his ambition to send a squadron of british to help ukraine take territory lost to russian . territory lost to russian. speaking with president zelenskyy this morning, he pledged supply challenger to battle alongside additional artillery systems. the decision makes the uk, the first western power to supply main battle tanks to the country . plans to

tanks to the country. plans to house 400 asylum seekers in a small village. northampton have now been dropped by the home office. residents had objected to using the 17th century highgate house in britain, which has a population of just over 500. james hill is the chairman of the local parish council . he of the local parish council. he told us why residents were the scheme. we village of 520 people and the prospect of 400 people coming to live here without . coming to live here without. occupation or activities keep them occupied without . proper them occupied without. proper access to local services . we've access to local services. we've we've felt that was unsustainable for us as a community and also the local area . on tv online and on dab+ area. on tv online and on dab+ radio this is the people's channel. gb news go anywhere? real britain will return. just a moment .

back. this is real britain on gb news on tv, online and on your digital radio. now it was a busy week for senior members of the royal family as they performed their first public engagements since . the release of prince since. the release of prince harry's spare princess, harry's memoir, spare princess, and paid a visit to soldiers stationed in cyprus . the prince stationed in cyprus. the prince and princess of wales were greeted cheering crowds as they visited liverpool open a hospital king charles hospital and king charles visited a food bank and several local in aberdeenshire. this all comes as reports emerged that charles make france his first state visit as king next march . state visit as king next march. now joining me is former royal correspondent at the sun, charles ray charles, itv news. people's poll found that when asked about what word or phrase comes first comes to mind. one thinks about prince harry. the pubuc thinks about prince harry. the public overwhelmingly have negative things to say. the top

words idiot spoilt brats and stupid. would you say ? this has stupid. would you say? this has been a pr disaster for , harry. been a pr disaster for, harry. and that was just a thing they said about . i and that was just a thing they said about. i know. i have to say that i think all those. all those words fit the bill for harry. i mean, it's quite incredible what he has done . you incredible what he has done. you know, he's written 400 word, 400 page book. he's had the netflix documentaries he's now had. is it three or four interviews with television ? and we've now got an television? and we've now got an interview in the this morning . i interview in the this morning. i mean, the interview in the telegraph was which was fine. that was in. chatting away about it. but it was a threatening interview as much as he's saying i had enough for another boot. there's a you know , it looks to there's a you know, it looks to me as if he's saying to the royal family, you know, unless

you come in to talks and everything and give a public apology , meghan, you may well apology, meghan, you may well find that there may well be another book. we know that his deal or the couple's deal with the publishers is for a four book deal. so that is one of the boot. now whether that's a another harry book, 'spare' or whether it's meghan boot or whether it's meghan boot or whether it's meghan boot or whether it's a joint, but who knows ? do you think , though, knows? do you think, though, that. yes, harry might have massively damaged his own , massively damaged his own, perhaps forever , but at the same perhaps forever, but at the same time, he might have brought down family with him. do you think that people will have a more view say, william in case view of, say, william in case after reading the book? i don't think so . you know, just got think so. you know, you just got to look at it it yesterday to look at it was it yesterday they were in liverpool. crowds were there a lot of were again, there was a lot of cheating. everything was. yes, you legitimately. you could quite legitimately. yeah, there are people yeah, yes. but there are people who royal family the who support the royal family the poll your poll shows that i think it shows that it's about 30, 34, that the popularity , 31%

30, 34, that the popularity, 31% think it's damaged them . but you think it's damaged them. but you take that poll at the coronation and will go straight back up again . the show, the royal again. the show, the royal family is very, very again. i mean, is that definitely true because we have seen that popularity pride in the royal family has sunk very low and yes you know you can say that the royal family has survived many a problem before. and as you say, at the coronation , those at the coronation, those popularity ratings will go up . popularity ratings will go up. but do you think possibly it could be sort of death by a thousand scandals? this one might not be the one that breaks the camel's back, but we will get that. well, i don't think so.the get that. well, i don't think so. the royal family for thousands of years has survived an awful lot of scandals . you an awful lot of scandals. you know, we've had divorces, we've had abdication . we've had people had abdication. we've had people executed for criticising the royal family and he's very lucky he doesn't live in another age be honest. otherwise he'd be spending time in the in tower. no, i look, the royal family had

cnses no, i look, the royal family had crises when diana did her book we had crises on prince andrew . we had crises on prince andrew. and isn't it amazing that harry's popularity is no below that of his uncle, who is accused of molesting his 17 year old girl and ended up paying millions of pounds to a woman. he says he has no recollection of meeting is gone crazy . yes. of meeting is gone crazy. yes. do you think this this sort of fundamental utterly the royal family is right to be ignored doing this? because you know, if i were william and kate say i'd be pretty furious with these things and i'm reading and i desperately want to hit back, do you think they're right generally to . not i think the generally to. not i think the palace themselves, when they're sitting down and having a chat among themselves , i think among themselves, i think they're absolutely furious. i don't about don't think any doubt about that. think their strategy that. but i think their strategy is right that they don't fan the flames that harry has lit because they respond on one or

two aspects of the book or any of the interviews then and not say anything about other aspects of it. then they're going to be accused of sort, of just talking about one too. and the fact is, if they say anything , just going if they say anything, just going to open up the row again. harry will be able to come back and we're going to have public slanging match. i it amazes me that harry says he's got enough for book but he doesn't want to use it because it will it cause harm to the royal family well harry. yeah. haven't a bad job of this already. harry. yeah. haven't a bad job of this already . yeah. funny to of this already. yeah. funny to find his scruples about that . as find his scruples about that. as you mentioned, he says that he has enough material for another book. and we do know that, yes, harry's popularity ratings are low, but this, i think, the fastest selling non—fiction book of time. do you think if he of all time. do you think if he published another book, interest would begin wane or do you would begin to wane or do you think of boundless think a sort of boundless appetite this model? i think appetite for this model? i think i think if he did it next week, you know, people like me and you yes, we lapped all up and

everything else, i think the general public would be say, please, know, let's please, you know, let's literally spare us the next the next volume. initially i'm not sure if he will produce another, but he may do depends. but he wants public apology from the royal family to make it hell is going to over for us before that happens because i don't think the royal family or britain has anything to apologise to meghan for. and moving on to the what do you make of his decision to visit a food bank and local in scotland. i mean man who tried to him said that it was in port. yes but it's does this show he's trying be the kind of king who's in touch with the struggles of the people and? does that work as a strategy? but this is not this is something he did just because son has written book, this is something that he and other members of the royal family, this is what they do. they go and meet people they go and meet people who are disadvantaged go and meet disadvantaged to go and meet people, organisations that , try

people, organisations that, try to help other people. they are very, you know, a boat the pubuc very, you know, a boat the public at the prince's trust, which charles set up. it's helped so many people you know on a path that helps them you know and a decent living and takes them away from gang life or , a life of poverty . and look, or, a life of poverty. and look, you know, it's going to get criticism because he lives in a castle and he's got all of money and everything else. but he uses quite a lot of that money to try to help people and is very concerned and as we have, we read about the cost of living raised as and everything else, it's not going to affect. but he is very concerned the is very concerned about the people represents . there people that he represents. there are those, of course , who say are those, of course, who say that charles doesn't , have the that charles doesn't, have the sort of political shrewdness his mother, he's known to have been quite in the past. quite outspoken in the past. he's got quite a hot temper. quite outspoken in the past. he's got quite a hot temper . but he's got quite a hot temper. but that said, he's planning apparently make his first state visit to france, which could be a diplomatic masterstroke , know

a diplomatic masterstroke, know that relations with the french are at a pretty state at the are at a pretty bad state at the moment and could greatly moment and it could greatly improve what you think off improve them. what you think off the back of that on on charles it's sort of political shrewdness . well i think he'll shrewdness. well i think he'll it's a game when you are prince of wales . you can get away with of wales. you can get away with a little bit when you are monarch you've got to be a bit more diplomatic. and i don't think i've seen anything since he became king that says he's he's not being diplomatic. he became king that says he's he's not being diplomatic . and i he's not being diplomatic. and i think i think you're right. i think i think you're right. i think it's a very shrewd move that he is going to go to france. and we need to of, you know, come together a bit more with france. we have so many problems. she had problems with with so yeah it's a good with france. so yeah it's a good move for him to go to go there. yeah. he'll do well and he'll be diplomatic . well thank you so diplomatic. well thank you so charles rea. and it's nice again . hear an optimistic view of king charles reign . and lots of king charles reign. and lots of you have been sending your

thoughts on the topics we've been discussing on the strikes. greg says we should give the nurses 19% pay rise and make it an industry that can attract and retain staff. or is the government deliberately crushing nhs the same as it has for everything else ? 19% nhs the same as it has for everything else ?19% greg. that everything else? 19% greg. that is a lot of money and well sure. would you want to see that repeated across the whole of the pubuc repeated across the whole of the public sector or that? so a special exemption for nurses. that's an interesting question. and disagrees says it's appalling that nurses and ambulance workers keep striking people are dying because of their actions . it's about people are dying because of their actions. it's about time somebody went into every and did an audit because knows why the never ending pile money the nhs is going . i suppose rebecca's is going. i suppose rebecca's point earlier reed who we heard earlier say that we sort of fetishise that nhs staff and sort of treat them as saints and is just their job and they deserve to be paid. i'm not sure. not sure what you think about that david, but i do agree where this money going on

where is this money going on inclusive language in the nhs. williams says trans inclusive language is the ultimate non sequhur. language is the ultimate non sequitur . the purpose of sequitur. the purpose of language is to communicate and simply purpose is not simply its purpose is not befuddle or , distort reality . befuddle or, distort reality. william i can't disagree with that at all. i entirely agree that at all. i entirely agree that the purpose of these posters in a medical setting should be to inform anything which has any danger of confusing the issue is very bad news indeed on immigration says the government should house migrants on farms that need pickers if they work for two years and have a clean employment record and give them british citizenship, if they walk off the job, they should be arrested and removed. well, i think similar part of think that's similar to part of australia's immigration policy. you can get licence to work in if you've if you've worked in labour for a while. it does seem be working quite well over there and john says why are we so concerned about our reputation when it comes to refusing deporting illegal immigrants to

with reputation the rules out of date and must ignored. well thank you much, john and joe with it should be enshrined into law that if you have no documentation you have zero chance of claiming asylum here and that is something that it seems ministers might be considering had chris the immigration minister talking about how theresa may's modern slavery act has created a loophole in the immigration system whereby people don't need proper documentation. so that could something ministers all could be something ministers all thinking implementing . well, thinking of implementing. well, thank all very for sending thank you all very for sending in your . thank you all very for sending in your. rishi sunak has said he is concerned about the impact the snp's gender reform bill and that it the snp's gender reform bill and thatitis the snp's gender reform bill and that it is entirely reasonable to look at blocking it. he spoke dunng to look at blocking it. he spoke during his first visit to scotland as prime minister and a final decision is expected on wednesday. as i discussed in the monologue, the controversial gender reform bill was passed in last month. it allows people as young as 16 to change the legal

genden young as 16 to change the legal gender, signing a declaration, removing the need for medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria. i'm joined by former msp and columnist at the scotsman, brian monteith. now, brian , what do monteith. now, brian, what do you make of this gender recognition law. is it something that's going to cause these monumental problems for the whole of the uk as rishi sunak suggests, or is it just a legitimate attempt by scottish msps to make life easier for historically marginalised . well, historically marginalised. well, i think there's a very problem for the uk at the present and with this uk and the law in england that you out in westminster that is changing the law in england with the scottish law in england with the scottish law as it should be when it receives royal assent . now receives royal assent. now that's unlikely to happen at the moment unless labour win a election, but that's a while

away. if it were to happen so soon, we have prospect of next week. there's a cut—off point when the uk government must decide whether it believes that bill passed in holyrood should receive royal assent. it's quite entitled to say it shouldn't because under the terms of the scotland that delivered devolution , section 35 allows it devolution, section 35 allows it to provide royal assent. if it believes that the government has proper cause to believe that the bill will conflict the existing legislation in the rest of the uk . and there's certainly very uk. and there's certainly very strong grounds to believe it would do that , raise possibility would do that, raise possibility in my statement earlier that nicholas sturgeon might be introducing law not so much because . she's concerned about because. she's concerned about trans rights of a very small group of scottish only around

250 scottish people they think which would make use of this law . but because it's useful to her to create a sort of constitutional roadblocks remaining in uk, if the uk government does to grant royal assent to this law, then nicholas sturgeon could say, well, we need independence because westminster isn't isn't letting us have all democracy. do you think that's a bit cynical or do think that is possibly the nicola sturgeon's playing ? oh, i think there's playing? oh, i think there's every reason to believe is the game that nicola is playing . game that nicola is playing. let's remember that this bill was quite a long time in the making, but it was rushed through parliament just before . through parliament just before. it's a highly controversial bill. it has it has split people politically . it particularly has politically. it particularly has annoyed many and many feminists. there concerned, i think, quite

legitimate concerns are that what it does is it allows who change their gender gender to end up in what would be considered female spaces and that can include places such as a hospitals prisons , changing a hospitals prisons, changing rooms, toilets and so on and the fear is that will be used and abused by people seeking to actually commit physical abuse against women. so there's that taking place as a as a in scotland. but there are sections of that gender reform bill that will impact on the single sex services could impact on single sex schools in england and certainly will require different paperwork which could cause significant confusion in the acquiring of passports . another acquiring of passports. another documentation for the rest of the uk. so where it's coming

from and it's hard to believe that nicholas sturgeon did not know that there be a conflict with uk law . i'm sure she's been with uk law. i'm sure she's been advised of that. so why proceed? well, she could , because it well, she could, because it becomes a new, grievous to say we need independence and, as you pointed out, just very quickly, bnan pointed out, just very quickly, brian , this law hasn't proved brian, this law hasn't proved particularly popular in scotland, but know that keir starmer has suggested that he would like to introduce something similar. uk wide if he were prime minister. and actually theresa may too has said that she thinks that it's quite good law. so do you quite a good law. so do you think this is something that could happen in whole of the uk very quickly? well, of course it's also being suggested labour and wales would introduce it and has to be seen . it only passed has to be seen. it only passed in the scottish because labour actually supported it and whipped their msps to back it. for once. a number of snp members actually revolted

against it. so, so the labour, the labour party is saying it supports and i think it would be a huge vote loser for them in a general . thank you very much, general. thank you very much, bnan. general. thank you very much, brian . afraid we're going to brian. afraid we're going to have to leave it there, but thank you. and a scottish government representative said the bill part is within the bill as part is within legislative competence and was backed by an overwhelming majority with support from all majority with support from all major party parties. any attempt by the uk government to undermine democratic will of undermine the democratic will of , will , the scottish parliament will be vigorously contests contested , the scottish parliament will be theyrously contests contested , the scottish parliament will be the scottish)ntests contested , the scottish parliament will be the scottish government.;ted by the scottish government. you've been watching real britain. with me, olivia utley . britain. with me, olivia utley. thank you very much for your company . this show is on every company. this show is on every saturday at 2 pm. but for now i'll leave the weather. i'll leave you the weather. hello there , craig snell. and hello there, craig snell. and here's latest forecast from here's your latest forecast from the office. well, after we the met office. well, after we lose the wind and rain today, a is on the way. it's going to start to turn a good deal cold for of us with an increase for all of us with an increase in risk snow, especially as in risk of snow, especially as we go into week. here's the we go into next week. here's the situation the moment. still situation at the moment. still got pressure dominating got low pressure dominating the british icy

british isles and packed icy bars across northern ireland, scotland england , scotland and northern england, indicating very windy indicating some very windy weather as through weather still as we go through the rest of saturday otherwise as go into tonight. mixture of clear and showers for a lot of england and wales. clear and showers for a lot of england and wales . we do have england and wales. we do have this band of rain and hail just sinking its way into parts of northern ireland and northern england as the night on but for scotland it turns clearer coda risk of some further snow showers and also some ice on untreated surfaces. so overall sunday's going to be a cold day for all of us, really. we continue to track band of rain and hail, snow across england and hail, snow across england and wales, weakening as it does so behind it plenty of sunshine still , the risk of some wintry still, the risk of some wintry showers for scotland and quite keen wind here it's a feeling very cold. hi struggling around 2 to 4 degrees here for the afternoon further south around where we should be for the time of year. but feeling a bit colder what we have been colder than what we have been used to. and then into the evening we start to see bands of rain and showers moving in from

the it into the the west as it bumps into the colder could see some sleet colder air could see some sleet snow especially across parts of wales, the and then wales, the midlands and then later on in night, which is later on in the night, which is keeping a close on band keeping a very close eye on band of may just move of rain, may just move into parts south—east england , parts of south—east england, given and snow to the given some sleet and snow to the high here the end of high ground here by the end of the night. a cold night for all, especially scotland, could even see down to minus eight or see those down to minus eight or minus ten in a spots. and minus ten in a few spots. and then monday south, once we lose this rain really is a day of sunny spells and a few wintry showers . and that theme then showers. and that theme then continues into tuesday and wednesday , widespread frost by wednesday, widespread frost by night and, the further risk of some snow at times. i'm mark white is gb news homeland security editor. i covered those key issues that are so important to you our authorities, our communities , doing all they can communities, doing all they can to combat crime with the public services under unbearable strain , why are we still failing to control our defence? the first pnor control our defence? the first prior party of any government has been continually hollowed out . can we trust has been continually hollowed

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