be life threatening, thought to be life threatening, but the 41 year old has suffered a life changing injuries. a seven year old girl has been taken to hospital with injuries believed to have been sustained in the same incident. her condition is currently unknown . condition is currently unknown. police say no arrests have yet been made . the uk has sanctioned been made. the uk has sanctioned iran's prosecutor general following the execution of a british—iranian national in iran. ali reza akbari was sentenced to death on charges of spying for britain. prime minister rishi sunak described the killing as callous and cowardly. meanwhile, iran's state media is reporting the british ambassador has been summoned to iran's foreign ministry, which is accusing britain of meddling in their national security. the foreign secretary, james cleverly , says secretary, james cleverly, says the government is treating iran's actions very seriously . iran's actions very seriously. what i found out earlier this morning from the officials in tehran that this had taken place . of course, i was filled with the with the revulsion that i

think any reasonable person would have that is why we have taken this decisive action . that taken this decisive action. that is why we've made it clear that our response will not necessarily be limited to the measures that we have announced today. we take this incredibly seriously . the us president joe seriously. the us president joe biden's legal team say they've found an additional five pages of documents marked as classified at his home in delaware earlier this week. his team admitted they found other classified documents at his home and this and in his garage from his time as vice president dunng his time as vice president during the obama administration. the us attorney general has appointed a special counsel to investigate the matter . at least investigate the matter. at least five people have been killed after russian missiles struck an apartment building in central ukraine. tonight, probe's regional governor says at least 27 people, including six children, were injured in the attack. rescue efforts are ongoing with more people still trapped under the rubble. moscow

also attacked vital energy facilities across ukraine today. earlier prime minister rishi sunak pledged to supply challenger to battle tanks to help ukraine and for the country to retake territory he lost to russia . in other news , a union russia. in other news, a union representing ambulance workers has written to the prime minister saying they feel betrayed by attempts to paint them as uncaring . the gmb, which them as uncaring. the gmb, which represents more than 10,000 ambulance staff, told rishi sunak he was demonising them over strike action. it comes after mr. sunak told the commons that industry action was terrifying. the public , while terrifying. the public, while tory mp lee anderson told gb news the letter may not reflect the views of all workers , but the views of all workers, but listening to their fellaini knows between animals, drivers anomalies, unions and i've spent times on a ship with ambulance drivers and they, you know, sometimes they tell me a little a different story to what the unions are telling them. it's about time we start listen to about time we start to listen to the average and the the average drivers and the paramedics rather than the unions. we never got one

unions. so we never got one single that's to get single agenda. and that's to get vegetables . nursing have vegetables. nursing strikes have been paused in scotland after talks between the first minister, nicholas sturgeon and the royal college of nursing . the royal college of nursing. negotiations now continue negotiations will now continue next week with the aim of reaching a deal by the end of february. the scottish government pledging to government is also pledging to match any nhs pay increase in england higher rcn england if its higher rcn general secretary pat cullen credits pressure from nurses as being key to negotiations . plans being key to negotiations. plans to house 400 asylum seekers in a small village near northampton have now been dropped by the home office . residents had home office. residents had objected to using the 17th century highgate house hotel in crichton, which has a population of just over 500. james hale is the chairman of creighton parish council. he told us why residents were against the scheme. we are village of 520 people and the prospect of 400 people and the prospect of 400 people coming to live here without occupation or activities

to keep them occupied without proper access to local services . we've we felt that was uncertain , attainable for us as uncertain, attainable for us as a community and also for the local area . romanian authorities local area. romanian authorities have seized luxury cars from andrew tate's property as part of a criminal inquiry into alleged human trafficking. the social media influencer and his brother , as well as two romanian brother, as well as two romanian women, were detained on charges of forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit six women earlier this week. the four suspects lost a legal challenge against their 30 day arrest. they have all denied any wrongdoing . the government says wrongdoing. the government says single use plastic plates and cutlery will be banned in england from october in a bid to kerb . the impact of plastic on kerb. the impact of plastic on the environment. england currently uses around 2.7 billion pieces of single use cutlery every year, but only 10% is recycled. repeated breaches of the new legislation could

lead to retail is facing criminal charges . dr. christine criminal charges. dr. christine dunn, a senior lecturer at bangor university, told us why it's necessary . plastic doesn't it's necessary. plastic doesn't break. break break down doesn't decompose. rot away. and what happens to it is it breaks up into smaller and smaller pieces of plastics, which then become microplastics or even nanoplastics. and now what we're seeing is those plastics are so small and they're being found everywhere. they're in the rain , they're in the air that we're breathing in. they're even in our blood. you're up to date on tv , online and dab, plus radio. tv, online and dab, plus radio. this is tv news. now let's get back to . back to. neil faster and faster. our leaders are running now. running from the truth. excess deaths arising all around us like floodwater. in recent weeks, more people have died than during the height

of the pandemic. they have not died of covid 19. we know that much. so what is happening .7 why much. so what is happening? why are thousands more people dying than usual? and why no daily televised announcements of those deaths, as we heard with those attributed to covid? i can guess . ask the question, however , . ask the question, however, talk about these deaths. demand answers and watch the chickens run faster still, while lashing out with all the censorship cancellation, don't demonise dissent and more recently the most egregious insults they can muster. all the palpable panic and self preserving outrage makes plain how much blood is already in the water. health secretary steve barclay the latest handed poisoned chalice was on another news channel this week. he was asked about 50,000 excess deaths in the last year , excess deaths in the last year, ianed excess deaths in the last year, invited to explain them . delays invited to explain them. delays invited to explain them. delays in seeing gp's he said delays in treatment caused by lockdown. he was quick to point out that other countries were seeing similar levels of deaths that were nothing to do with the

virus as do that. who made 50,000 people dying here less of a problem? if you think it's bad here, look over here. that's not an answer worth having. that's not an answer at all. the fact these deaths are happening worldwide means the attempt to blame them here on a failing nhs or striking ambulance driver is for the birds. it's just another bid to distract people's attention from the elephant in the room . asked how alarming he the room. asked how alarming he found the figures of death, barclay said only that they were concerning . he evidently didn't concerning. he evidently didn't like the journalists choice of word alarming because he wouldn't use it. but journalist pointedly didn't ask him about the role of the medical products in all this , and barclay in all this, and barclay certainly didn't mention it. why is this? why? when physicians and scientists here and all around the world are able to court peer research court peer reviewed research pointing to injuries and deaths associated those products, associated with those products, why does our health secretary, together almost the together with almost the entirety of employees and the government's preferred medics, scientists and hacks, fail even to contemplate that glassy eyed

elephant . is to contemplate that glassy eyed elephant. is it to do with to contemplate that glassy eyed elephant . is it to do with the elephant. is it to do with the billions of pounds already invested in the still experimental technology of any vaccines? who knows? in the us insurance companies have reported an overwhelming and inexplicable increase in all cause deaths. among 18 to 49 year olds. and yet, all the usual suspects are still out there banging the drum for the jobs. they are safe and effective. we are still told, even for six month old babies . even for six month old babies. why are they still seeing safe when people are dying in the aftermath of receiving them? and we do not know why. far less. whether or not it's those medical products to blame. why are we still seeing effective when know the latest strain when we know the latest strain of covid freely circulating now is expected to bypass the jabs anyway on social media? mp andrew bridgen quoted an israeli jewish doctor of criminology saying the vaccine roll out was the biggest crime against humanity since the holocaust . in humanity since the holocaust. in the aftermath, britain was accused of making an

anti—semitic remark by matt hancock and others . many jewish hancock and others. many jewish people here and around the world have since responded, saying his social media post was not anti—semitic and offering him the support. today the times said britain had been under caught, groomed by gangs of anti—vaxxers , appearing to anti—vaxxers, appearing to repurpose headline language in an attempt to have readers see those with questions to ask about the safety of medical products in the same light as those who gangrape children . those who gangrape children. well, joining the chorus of condemnation and withdrawing the tory whip from britain , tory tory whip from britain, tory chief whip simon hart said misinformation about the vaccine causes, harms and costs lives , causes, harms and costs lives, end quote. but i ask exactly which information freely circulating is actually the misinformation . is it asking misinformation. is it asking questions about those medical products as britain has done, or is it continuing to describe as safe and effective injections that may cause harm ? is it that may cause harm? is it insisting that people , babies insisting that people, babies included, should receive these injections? while questions

remain unanswered regarding the as yet unexplained deaths of tens of thousands of people in this country during the years when those products were rolled out to billions of people, there are all sorts of glaring, unexplained holes in the official narrative now. if the narrative was cheese, it would be swiss . for example, no one narrative was cheese, it would be swiss. for example, no one in authority ever mentions the fact the astrazeneca offering was quietly dropped from use months ago . here and around the world, ago. here and around the world, if those medical products are only safe and effective on saving millions of lives, why is the astrazeneca jab gone? last month in the state of florida, governor ron desantis called for a grand jury to investigate any and all wrongdoing with respect to the products marketed as covid vaccines . why are our covid vaccines. why are our leaders here still only describing those same products as safe and effective ? still as safe and effective? still claiming they're saving millions of lives? when one of the same products is off the shelves. and while those behind the production and delivery of the rest are set to be investigated by some of the highest

authorities . is that? every authorities. why is that? every day, people of all ages and from all walks of life are dropping dead or being found dead in their homes by loved ones who had no to expect anything had no reason to expect anything was amiss with person's was amiss with that person's health. defibrillators are installed in schools now. there is no such thing required in my school days. and all the while, pressure . this is great. seeing pressure. this is great. seeing children die of heart attacks too. and yet anyone having the temerity to ask if any harm to type deaths followed injection with those medical products is furious . silly shouted down. furious. silly shouted down. just months ago it was absolutely the thing to ask whether someone was jabbed before allowing them into a fast food outlet or a cinema or a theatre or a workplace. but here , about a teenager, a face planting on a football pitch in the middle of a game, and suddenly an inquiry as suddenly such an inquiry as a gross intrusion . when did asking gross intrusion. when did asking pertinent questions in the aftermath of an otherwise healthy young person dropping dead become a social taboo ? any dead become a social taboo? any criticism of those product safety? even just asking

questions, attracts harder and harder condemnation. even as the evidence mounts that harms are most certainly being inflicted by them . after all these months, by them. after all these months, as the elephant in the room has grown ever larger, ever more unavoidably obvious. so the efforts to silence council censure and plain frighten off the unconvinced have grown more and more strident . on sunday and more strident. on sunday night, i spent nearly 5 hours onune night, i spent nearly 5 hours online talking to doctors and scientists from all around the world. all of them telling the stories of cancellation, censorship, damage to reputation. two of the doctors had been jailed for successfully treating their patients with repurposed drugs like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. highly trained. highly qualified , trained. highly qualified, esteemed physicians locked in jail cells for treating a patients as they saw fit and saving lives in the process . saving lives in the process. around 16,000 people listened to those conversations and live on air. goodness knows how many more have listened to the recordings since then. those annoying hunger they a

desperation felt by millions of people to expose the stories of harm done to listen to experienced health. professional talking about how in their highly qualified opinion on countable lives might have been saved by alternative early treatments before people's lips turned blue, and they died on ventilators to ask honest questions and hear answers in the face of unpleasant, vented excess deaths . and yet, harder excess deaths. and yet, harder than ever, the politicians and their enablers play whac—a—mole angrily smack down as many contrary voices as possible. attention seekers who just months ago couldn't wait to post pictures of their own jabs or to stand in front of a camera and urge others to do likewise for the greater good of mr. seriously. find other things to preach about like the climate, or to ring their hands about the plight of the poor. in a time of lockdown crisis, a crisis that they were neck deep in causing in the first place by approving ruinous strategies and policies instead of the mainstream media

asking questions about those medical products. what do we get ? a veritable flood of stories in the past year seeking to offer any number of explanations for sudden death by sudden heart attack and stroke in otherwise healthy people . in november last healthy people. in november last yean healthy people. in november last year, the sun said green fingers , urgent warning to gardeners as soil increases risk of a killer heart disease. in september , the heart disease. in september, the times informed us that kind of diet drink a d linked to 23% greater risk of stroke in august. abc news ran with rise in heart disease may be explained by extreme weather conditions. in april, the daily sabahin conditions. in april, the daily sabah in turkey had good news can cause heart attacks too. in september , the indian express september, the indian express said , explained a heart attack said, explained a heart attack while exercising. why it happens and who's at risk in me ? very and who's at risk in me? very well. health offered the possibility of a heart attack from shovelling snow. and last february walesonline let its

readers know that energy bill pnces readers know that energy bill prices may cause heart attacks and strokes , says ttv. gp why and strokes, says ttv. gp why are we invited to look in so many directions for explaining of sudden deaths by heart attack and stroke? and yet the same ministry media so blatantly ignores credible scientific data in peer reviewed journals that reveals what might be a crucial line of inquiry for anyone with a serious mind . on the 31st of a serious mind. on the 31st of august last year, the journal vaccine published a piece stating that the risk of serious harm after a job of the am or any products was one in 800. in short, the paper said you were more likely to suffer an adverse event from the jab than to be hospitalised with covid. and yet, despite such a proper worrying, finding the silence from the mainstream media has been deafening . where are the been deafening. where are the journalists to ask questions? far less to offer strident opinion pieces, calling for heads to roll. dr. aseem malhotra, a regular guest on gb news, has had a paper peer reviewed and published in the

journal of insulin resistance , journal of insulin resistance, in which he said his father died after two injections of the pfizer covid 19 product. dr. malhotra did not outright blame the jobs. he was persuaded by his own research, however, that his own research, however, that his dad's jobs had been a likely contributory factor in his death . in any event, contributory factor in his death . in any event , that he did . in any event, that he did indeed have grounds for asking questions about those products, which deemed factual by that peer reviewed publication. morrison attlee. dr. malhotra has joined with others , has joined with others, scientists and doctors from all around the world in calling for the suspension of the jobs. how is that call received by the mass of the media and by almost all politicians? he is demonised , ridiculed once again , most , ridiculed once again, most recently in the ugliest manner imaginable . and so here we are, imaginable. and so here we are, all questions and no answers. none that are so called leaders will provide us with anyway . will provide us with anyway. this monologue will be banned by certain online platforms for danng certain online platforms for daring to ask those questions. fortunately, there are still a few places online where we can

talk to each other and ask each other questions in the company , other questions in the company, they are of thousands upon thousands of serious medics and scientists who are asking the same questions. here's the thing our leaders can run, but they can't hide . all of that's my can't hide. all of that's my opinion, of course. and you are free to disagree. keep your tweets and emails coming through the show. you can email gb views at gb news dot uk and you can tweet me as well at gb news. i'll try to get some of your comments later in the show. after the break, i'll be joined by an nhs gp who is in favour of the vaccine programme. first of all, katie , what do you think ? all, katie, what do you think? well, i thought your monologue was really interesting as usual. and i think it's great, neil, that you asked the questions other people won't ask . and i am other people won't ask. and i am i am really concerned about the level of censorship of cover ups and all of those things. but i

have a butt and it's a just can't see. i mean, i don't know whether you historically have always thought there might be a problem with medical products. you know, whether you're a sort of organic know whatever and everything going up until a couple of years ago because i'm very pro , you know, drugs for very pro, you know, drugs for everything myself . rather than everything myself. rather than trying to fight it out . but so trying to fight it out. but so i think my butties is i don't see that as a drive by big pharma or political leaders to kill us off. so i think we have to ask questions about the money and about these excess deaths . but i about these excess deaths. but i would think that's a quite a spectrum of contributory factors and not just the vaccine . i and not just the vaccine. i mean, i'm not saying we shouldn't question the vaccine. we should, but i just i just don't see that there . you know, don't see that there. you know, why would why do they want to, you know, not answer these

questions? they don't want to kill us. surely a leaf hanging in the air, daniel. i'm being pushed for time by the voice in my ear. so i'll come to you for comment after the break. i'll see you in 3 minutes

hello again and welcome back to neil oliver. live before the break, i gave my views on the sharp rise in excess deaths in recent times. i'm joined now by dr. david lloyd, who is an nhs . dr. david lloyd, who is an nhs. gp david, good evening. thank you for joining gp david, good evening. thank you forjoining me. why aren't we paying the same attention to the excess deaths as we did to covid deaths ? well, i think we covid deaths? well, i think we are. i don't think there's i don't think those things are mutually exclusive . we've long mutually exclusive. we've long been aware that the crisis that we've had over the last two or three years is increasing excess deaths. and it's very, very

important that we do understand why covid obviously has the number one cause for the lots and lots of those deaths. but people dying in any departments because they can't get sick in a timely manner is another one. and as we all get older and we are subjected to multiple infections, it's quite likely that there are excess deaths as well as that. so, yes, it's an incredibly complicated problem , incredibly complicated problem, but we're not ignoring it. we're looking very hard to find the causes and do something about it. it's not the it's not the being broadcast in the same way you during the you know, during during the covid deaths , there was there covid deaths, there was there was counter the corner of was a counter in the corner of the screen, sometimes literally , you giving updated , you know, giving updated numbers. and yet people are numbers. and yet more people are dying now causes unrelated to dying now of causes unrelated to covid and asking questions about it is all but forbidden , you it is all but forbidden, you know. what do you make of the fact that when it comes to the excess deaths, you mentioned, you know, people in hospital, a third the excess deaths are third of the excess deaths are people at home, people of all

ages and at home, because presumably they under presumably they weren't under the physician the care of a physician specifically anything that specifically for anything that they wrong them. they knew to be wrong with them. and found dead in and they've been found dead in their no is that not the their homes. no is that not the kind of thing that ought to be being shouted from every front page bulletin as page and every news bulletin as we to get to the bottom we attempt to get to the bottom of why these people are dying when they shouldn't be . well, when they shouldn't be. well, the last week that 500 the headlines last week that 500 people, five under people are dying a week when they were they shouldn't have done in a&e departments was very much front page of the news. i think we are trying to make the point that health care is incredibly important . it shouldn't be important. it shouldn't be something that we should underfund or privatise ize, that we should be provide enough care so that people don't feel frightened about coming to see the doctor and know when. the early signs of things like cancer are starting to show. so i think there has been an awful lot of things that have happened dunng lot of things that have happened during this covid epidemic that have made things change as far

as people consulting their doctor is concerned . at the doctor is concerned. at the moment, it's impossible to get an appointment to see a gp. it's impossible to get see in a timely manner in the any department. you have to wait a very long time for routine surgery. all of those things are to contribute to people dying earlier than they should. as many as a third of the people dying or trying to get a gp appointment when in hospital didn't know they were ill. and those being phoned those people are being phoned dead for causes. well, i really want to, but can i put on that? i don't i'm not aware that people are dying because of some unknown thing in their houses when they have the dying of some unknown thing, either. what do you think that i know? well i think the questions have to be asked about the safety of the vaccines. i believe that you're saying directly the vaccines are right. sorry, i didn't realise you were linking the two together. well i think you're

completely wrong that the mandate vaccines for not only safe and have the most fantastic potential . look at the two potential. look at the two headunes potential. look at the two headlines that happened this week showing that lung covid is a much less of a problem in vaccinated individuals . that was vaccinated individuals. that was done on 2 million people in israel. so an enormous study. and then the other one, which is that the nhs have just gone into partnership with the maker of mirror money vaccines to work with individualised cancer vaccines for people who've got advanced cancer. and there's huge data showing that we can reverse some of the really awful cancers that we're not very good at by producing individ juls vaccines against the cancer. i would i would question i would question. absolutely. whether it's good news that the government under and their allies are moving forward with any vaccines when it's demonstrated in the case that the vaccines that we have at the

moment that are being applied in the case of covid are unquestionably causing harms and deaths . reanalysis hold unquestionably causing harms and deaths. reanalysis hold on. we know the benefit the health benefit ratio of using vaccines in covid is overwhelming. no, that's that is not correct . that that's that is not correct. that is not correct. the data no longer supports that assertion. the reanalysis of pfizer's own data show just to take this data supports it. we know the vaccine has a direct effect on the virus, and it also has a direct effect on the troublesome lung covid that we were all very worried about afterwards. doctor mean that pfizer's pfizer's only feet among re—analysis of pfizer's own data shows that one in 800 people suffered an adverse effect . which, in adverse effect. which, in summary, means that people were more likely to be harmed by an adverse effect than they were to be hospitalised with covid. now, in the context of that re—analysis of pfizer's own data , i fail to understand how you can to assert that can continue to assert that those products are safe and or

effective when they are unquestionably associated with people's deaths . do you would people's deaths. do you would you still still recommend the recommended people saying something that really is open to question ? we have enormous question? we have enormous amounts of data that show these vaccines are very, very safe and have prevented millions of people have dying from covid. there is no question that people are dying or being harmed in the aftermath of receiving those injections . would you like to injections. would you like to point me towards the data for that? i doesn't appear in peer review, just i'm holding up today is british medical journal, which is actually the one of the things about long covid data. we have very good evidence that these vaccines work and are not dangerous . how work and are not dangerous. how how it be how can it be how can it be how can it be a legitimate to describe them as effective and that people were being given enough information to give informed consent when one of pfizer's own people , in one of pfizer's own people, in testimony to the european union said that they hadn't even been asked whether or not to test

whether or not their products would stop transmission person to person with a vaccine. and yet we all listened for weeks and months and years to everyone from the prime, from prime ministers to presidents down, saying that if you took one of these medical products, you would not contract nor transmit the virus. now, covid, in the case of pfizer, they hadn't even been asked to check if the product did not know in what sense are people giving informed consent when those are the facts that they've been pushing since the size of the effectiveness of the size of the effectiveness of the pfizer vaccine against covid? there was published in the in the lancet . now, two the in the lancet. now, two years ago. it's the best research that's been in a very long time. i think people worry because the vaccine was seemed to have been researched very quickly and rushed out onto the market and everybody says, oh, my goodness, this is an untried vaccine. but really , the number vaccine. but really, the number of people that were involved in getting these vaccines into

people's arms was enormous. and so really it isn't a good argument that it was done too quickly or too rushed . these quickly or too rushed. these vaccines are fantastic , save and vaccines are fantastic, save and to save millions of lives. that's the line we keep being told.i that's the line we keep being told. i do not believe that is true and no longer there is an alternative reality that says these vaccines are injecting. i don't know, microchips into your arm or selecting out different races . these are things that all races. these are things that all perpetuated on the internet and are wrong. these vaccines are safe and save lives . people are safe and save lives. people are dying in the aftermath of them. they don't stop you contracting the disease or transmitting it on the afternoon or going into hospital or a hospital. the reasons why people are dying in the moment. there are indeed. and to ask questions. and we need to ask questions. david nhs, thank you david lloyd, nhs, gp thank you very your time this very much for your time this evening. break, evening. and after the break, i'll joined by consultant, i'll be joined by consultant, cardiologist, aseem cardiologist, dr. aseem malhotra. i'll be back in 3

minutes . oh, malhotra. i'll be back in 3 minutes. oh, i'm sorry. i don't have the break at the moment. i'm going to go to the panel. daniel lord moylan and host or a statistician. so i'm not going to comment on the question whether the vaccines are how dangerous they are and so on. but i do have a lot of sympathy with you when you say that it's difficult to raise these issues and not get dumped on and in a very serious and often in a way that tries to cancel you out. and i think it should be possible to have a more open discussion about concerns people have because actually, as we know, if you don't discuss them. people who are concerned just get more and more worried and conspiracies, conspiracy theories spread . i personally . theories spread. i personally. think that what drives this is that the closedown of the economy, the lockdown of the

economy, the lockdown of the economy turned out to be economically totally disastrous. i mean, everyone knew it was going to cost a lot of money to do it, but it turned out in much more economically expensive because it was very hard to get out of it. and the vaccines have been seen by governments as a means of getting us out of the lockdowns and moving the economy back towards something like normal . but they back towards something like normal. but they are back towards something like normal . but they are very, very normal. but they are very, very invested. they are very, very invested. they are very, very invested in getting those vaccines rolled out . so people vaccines rolled out. so people who criticise them will raise questions. i think cause nervousness on the part of governments and authorities . and governments and authorities. and i think that's really what's driving it. well, i think nervousness in the face of people dying and being hurt isn't good enough. but i prematurely tried to go to is upon us now after which cardiologist dr. asim malhotra will be here back into .

welcome back once again to neil oliver live . now my monologue oliver live. now my monologue addressed the subject of excess deaths and the products marketed around the world as vaccines no one is closer to the fire of all that than my next guest consultant, cardiologist asim malhotra . asim lost his dad malhotra. asim lost his dad recently and has written about how he believes the jobs his dad took. like that contributed to his death for saying so and for calling on the suspension of the rule out of those products, i seem has put himself squarely in the crosshairs of those determined to keep pushing the needle . thanks for being here , needle. thanks for being here, azeem. how do we explain these crazy times ? yeah, i think crazy times? yeah, i think crazy's probably the best way to describe . but we can actually describe. but we can actually explain it in a very rational way, neal. so let's just talk about the evolution of my thinking and understanding and sense of the whole vaccine issue. so i've said this before, but i think it's important to go over again. so i was one of the first to have two doses of

pfizer vaccine. i was on good morning britain helping to tackle vaccine hesitancy amongst ethnic in ethnic minority groups in february 2021 because of comments. a friend of mine director going to china have director going to china to have the and my thinking at the vaccine and my thinking at the vaccine and my thinking at the so it's very important the time. so it's very important to this to understand this because i think where was then is many think where i was then is many people still are now as a doctor , vaccines are kind of the holy grail in medicine. there's a big problem generally with overmedicating population. i've been a big campaigner exposing that and working with the british journal and even british medical journal and even the colleges where the medical colleges where i work with them as well to launch a campaign in 2015 called too much medicine because just to give figures give you some headline figures when the vaccine, in when come to the vaccine, in a minute , it's estimated by one of minute, it's estimated by one of the most credible researchers in the most credible researchers in the world, peter gaucher, that prescribed medications are the third most common cause of death after heart disease and cancer because of side effects. and when one looks at the root causes of that, a lot of it is because the clinical information that when they're that doctors get when they're making patients making decisions for patients comes drug industry

comes from drug industry sponsored trials and vested interests , where because they interests, where because they are making machines, they are profit making machines, they exaggerate the benefits and safety of their drugs. however i even i'm even though i've been one of the biggest critics in trying to highlight these issues and solutions for it , i never and solutions for it, i never could conceive of the possibility that a vaccine could do harm , because in the medical do harm, because in the medical world, for many people, you know, if there was addiction, if you put safe and effective is almost synonymous with vaccines. despite all of that. so even and i was on good morning britain, i said, listen, i understand there are irrational concerns for vaccine hesitancy. look at the history what have history of what pharma have done. but despite that , compared done. but despite that, compared to the other drugs we get to all the other drugs we get out people, vaccines are the out to people, vaccines are the safest , they to change safest, but they had to change the definition of vaccine was was altered to get these products under the line , which products under the line, which is i refused to them is why i refused to call them vaccines, because don't think vaccines, because i don't think they don't think are they i don't think they are that. oh, yeah, that's a country. i know, i know, i know. but it came in under the cover of the safety and efficacy that was it was the heritage

was that was it was the heritage of annihilation. you know, of annihilation. and, you know, i'm cardiologist. i'm a cardiologist. i and i would never and i've had so many vaccines and that's part of my job. and it's to protect patients. and we talk about vaccines. if you look at, for example, the chicken pox vaccine , you vaccinate 100 kids, 95 of them will not get the infection. we were sold this idea at the very beginning through press releases and through from pfizen releases and through from pfizer, etcetera, that there was 95% effectiveness of the vaccine . and actually, ultimately, when we go back and look at that data properly, we find and this is something that has been published in, peer reviewed journals absolute journals now that the absolute benefit very beginning, benefit from the very beginning, from if trust from those trials, if we trust them completely , was about 0.84. them completely, was about 0.84. it was what we call a 95% less likely in the randomised controlled trials to get infection. but that meant you ultimately had to vaccinate 119 people to prevent one getting infected with the original wuhan strain. so at that time we obviously didn't know how things were going to involve at the beginning my thinking on i kind of was, you've

of knew that was, okay, you've got something prevents got something that prevents infection in 119, but i didn't expect there to be any harm . and expect there to be any harm. and if you think about giving millions of people vaccine, millions of people that vaccine, you ultimately not going to you are ultimately not going to prevent transmission directly or to me it didn't. but indirectly is you prevent one infection hundred and 19 ultimately you will reduce transmission without any concerns of any harms, right? and if you think that going back, neil, if that was still was the case, fine, it wouldn't have been as effective as it would but as we thought it would have, but it have caused harm and it wouldn't have caused harm and probably done good. so probably have done some good. so let's start from where let's just start from where we are. there then things evolved and you know, for me the first thing that happened was my dad suffered a sudden cardiac arrest at home in july 2021. very fit man, 74 year old, you know, in his everyone thought of him as one of the fittest guys. i was shocked. i use cardiac history inside out and he was lifestyle. i am a cardiologist even prior to all of this that has a reputation and expertise and understand knowing exactly how heart disease develops are

lifestyle and his post lifestyle factors and his post mortem findings. it makes sense. he had very severe coronary artery disease, which is odd because few years because scans a few years earlier explained we earlier hadn't explained what we were . so i thought, hold were fine. so i thought, hold on. he's had rapid progression of i don't get of heart disease. i don't get this. happened here? is this. what's happened here? is it don't know. a few it stress? i don't know. a few months the times months later, the times contacted october 2021, contacted me in october 2021, and this is really interesting . and this is really interesting. and they said to me, the journalist said to me, said, dr. malhotra, are an in this malhotra, you are an in this area, got onyx plain area, we've got these onyx plain increases heart attacks in increases of heart attacks in scotland . i think she said scotland. i think she said something like 25% increase. what think's causing it what do you think's causing it now that point i said now at that point i said i predicted to some degree that lockdowns and the effects of lockdowns and the effects of lockdowns would have an effect. further on i almost predicted because we know historically, neil, where there's been huge psychological stress on populations from wars even for years after the wars ended, there are increasing attacks of strokes. there's a slight increase . and i said to the increase. and i said to the times journalists, i said, actually, to be honest, we know people's diets. unfortunately worse during lockdown, people

are stressed. and are severely stressed. and i would expect those to be the reasons. now, interestingly, the journalist asked me the time, journalist asked me at the time, what the vaccines, dr. what about the vaccines, dr. march, and said, listen, i think it's highly unlikely. i know still that said still at that point you said that i said as a good that point. i said as a good scientist , it would be very scientist, it would be very naive of me to completely discount possibility to the discount any possibility to the end, we're not sure end, because we're not sure exactly what's happening. but i said it's very unlikely. and she quoted article, it's quoted me in the article, it's a big to hold the headline big time to hold the headline was and stress linked was poor diet and stress linked to attacks, to increased heart attacks, calling a cardiologist. calling it a cardiologist. right. that was my opinion at the information the time. but information changes, know, changes, neil, and you know, this is several months on from my so, you know, my dad's death. so, you know, i was in then few people people was in then a few people people at the time i thought were trolls on twitter said vaccine, vaccine. my dad suffered vaccine. when my dad suffered cardiac arrest, i was actually angry time. i thought angry at the time. i thought this is this nonsense? that this what is this nonsense? that i possible. i blocked i was even possible. i blocked people. was just people. it was just it was a vaccine, so i just wouldn't stand the emotion here because i think the emotion had then is think the emotion i had then is can some of the emotion can explain some of the emotion people have now . then the people have now. then the information changed and then

bits of data came and i won't bore you with all the details, but get to the crux of in but i'll get to the crux of in a minute, which suggested that the many vaccines accelerate heart disease myocarditis . disease and cause myocarditis. and looking in and then i started looking in the looked at what the data and i looked at what was on nationally. had was going on nationally. we had increase in cardiac arrest significantly 24, versus significantly 24, 21 versus 2020. being 2020. what data was being published publicised but published but not publicised but incredible journals by credible scientists who are not linked to the industry? know, i've the industry? you know, i've been in this for been involved in this space for such i was i was such a long time. i was i was the first guy in this country to highlight the harms excess highlight the harms of excess sugan highlight the harms of excess sugar. out saying sugar. when i came out saying sugar. when i came out saying sugar a problem, i got sugar was a problem, i got attacked from everybody saying this from i won't this guys are not from i won't name organisations name these organisations so—called credible guys. no sugar fine, know, all sugar is fine, you know, all that stuff and it took that kind of stuff and it took time and i published medical time and i published in medical journals eventually things journals and eventually things changed. here changed. so i've been here before. i at before. neil when i looked at the data from the vaccine and this are and we this is where we are now and we talk excess deaths. we talk about excess deaths. we have the most overwhelming evidence you can have to talk about the link between the vaccine or any vaccines and cardiac problems , right? so what

cardiac problems, right? so what bits of data we have . you've bits of data we have. you've mentioned randomised mentioned the randomised controlled a controlled trial data, a reanalysis the highest reanalysis of the highest quality level of data. so you've got of different studies. got lots of different studies. some higher impacts and some have higher impacts and more importance and credibility than others . and at top of than others. and at the top of that impact factor in terms of the credibility is the the credibility of study is the random trial double random control trial double bunded random control trial double blinded randomised controlled trial. and own trials trial. pfizer and own trials reanalyse used by independent very credible researchers published in the journal vaccine. but it should it should have been headline news. let's be honest. i'll be honest. it shouldn't be. i wasn't right, but i found it. and it was peer reviewed in the journal vaccine and the analysis and they found from the analysis the of serious adverse the risk of serious adverse events, hospitalisation, disability, life changing event in that was in the original trials that was approved regulator showed approved by the regulator showed you more likely get serious you were more likely get serious adverse the vaccine adverse event from the vaccine than hostile with covid. than to be hostile with covid. as mentioned already, that's as you mentioned already, that's a smoking only time. okay, a smoking gun. only time. okay, but not rely that. but let's not just rely on that. you talk replication. the you talk about replication. the lead that trial in lead researcher in that trial in that research, joseph freeman, he actually came out, as you know , about a week ago and said,

know, about a week ago and said, listen, i did this study. this is what i found. i've now we've now got conclusive of evidence linking the vaccine and sudden cardiac death because of very recently autopsy studies published in a peer reviewed journal found that a significant of people who died within a month of having the vaccine who suffer sudden cardiac death through autopsies, through special staining techniques, they clearly say they were able to clearly say they were able to clearly say the demand of vaccine the vaccine demand of vaccine was the was cool. so that's the irrefutable. now the question is, what's the of that ? is, what's the rate of that? now, how common is it? and that region randomised controlled trial data is a smoking gun. it's actually at least 100 to 2 months. so am i saying that all of the excess deaths that we're seeing in terms of coronary disease, 30,000 on the british hean disease, 30,000 on the british heart foundation, who it's heart foundation, who said it's no to with covid. no longer to do with covid. right, the college of emergency medicine said maybe 3 to 5000 because of ambulance delay. so it's 20 odd thousand. so it's a huge 20 odd thousand. so called unexplained. now, of course, of going to be course, some of it's going to be stress. can be lockdown. but stress. it can be lockdown. but these are speculative to some degree unlikely. but the only information have that's clear

information we have that's clear from randomised controlled trial data , pharmacovigilance data evidence, pharmacovigilance data evidence, pharmacovigilance data , autopsy data, high quality data, autopsy data, high quality observational studies, you know , let me just give you an example here. when i published an on sugar and its relation to harms to the heart which ultimately got accepted and to changes in policy, i met jeremy hunt. i was invited to ten downing street twice because of my work on obesity, on sugar. the analysis that i did linking sugar and its harm to the body is inferior to neil, to the analysis that we have on the link of the covid. i'm right, no vaccines and cardiac risk . link of the covid. i'm right, no vaccines and cardiac risk. think about that. yes, right . so how about that. yes, right. so how do we explain the crazy as well? let's just go back. let's look at the root cause of the issue. prior to the covid pandemic, population health in this country has been pretty dire for a long time. we've had stalling in life expectancy since 2010. we have more and more people living with chronic disease.

what does that mean overall? a health care system with all the different components is causing a regression in the population health in this country. for the last ten years, regression , and last ten years, regression, and we're going backwards. what the root causes are multifactorial, but two of the big root causes are , and this is probably are, and this is probably something from the time is the ultra processed food and unhealthy to wrap up because we're going to run out at time. okay, fine, fine. so what i would say is we have we are deaung would say is we have we are dealing with the root cause of this problem the corporate this problem is the corporate capture public health. capture of public health. we have very powerful have these very powerful entities are to make entities that are there to make profit. told about big profit. and i'm told about big pharma exert influence pharma here that exert influence over over the over politicians over the knowledge environment, over the mainstream media, over medical journals , over the regulator journals, over the regulator that most of its funding, that gets most of its funding, which i didn't know initially. the chair the bma didn't know the chair of the bma didn't know this conversation had this in a conversation i had with 86% the funding of with him 86% of the funding of the regulations country comes from people are from pharma people are well—intentioned. there are huge conflicts of interest wilful conflicts of interest is wilful blindness are burying their headsin blindness are burying their heads in sand. this vaccine heads in the sand. this vaccine very clearly from the evidence

i've analysed, needs to be suspended or paused this suspended or paused until this is investigated , said dr. is fully investigated, said dr. seema. your testimony is so persuasive and deeply . these persuasive and deeply. these keep doing what you're doing . keep doing what you're doing. often you seem like a lone voice, but i know not because i'm plugged into so many other people who are saying similar that keep doing what you're doing and come back soon doing and please come back soon and update us on campaign . and update us on this campaign. thank thank so thank you, neal. thank you so much. the i'll much. after the break, i'll discuss government's discuss the government's decision bring a new decision not to bring in a new law makes spiking someone's law that makes spiking someone's dnnk law that makes spiking someone's drink specific i'll drink a specific offence. i'll be back in 2 minutes.

welcome back to neil oliver live. as far as i'm concerned, anyone spiking another drink with drugs with the intention of abusing or exploiting them should be locked up and the key thrown away. last week, the crime of spiking was as sickening and the courts were

asked to handle lengthy prison sentences to those convicted. the whole phenomenon of spiking has exploded in recent months and years and among those campaigning for greater awareness and tougher sentences for perpetrators is my next guest. dawn denes, ceo and founder of stamp out spiking. good evening, dawn. thank you for joining me. good evening, dawn. thank you for joining me . good evening. forjoining me. good evening. news thank you for inviting me on now. dawn, i'm a dad . i've on now. dawn, i'm a dad. i've got a daughter and two sons. and the thought of drinks being spiked makes my blood run cold. how common is it? well, you know , this crime has been going on forever. i've been campaigning the last 20 years, active lay, trying to bang on the door of the authorities to tell them the extent of this disgusting crime. and this is where it's all going wrong. this is the whole grey area is the way that things are

now. you know, the minister , the now. you know, the minister, the home office minister, sarah dines, has said we already have laws that deal with that. but actually, it simply is virtually impossible to find out the extent what the true extent of this disgusting crime . our this disgusting crime. our police paying attention to the crime, you know, are the police away our and of the of the taking action to you know, to make people more suspicious about what might be happening. well i think they are, of course. but you know, it's a bit of a thankless task, to be honest with you , unless we get honest with you, unless we get the education embedded into every one who's working in the night time economy, then we're we're fighting a losing battle . we're fighting a losing battle. we need key funding to be put into place so that venue owners, security staff, taxi drivers , security staff, taxi drivers, those brilliant straight pass voters that are looking after our soul when we're out partying , they all need to know the

signs the symptoms says. there's so much that needs to be done and it needs to start with this law being changed or sorry amended . carrie listening to the amended. carrie listening to the assault, you know , the idea that assault, you know, the idea that that threat is out there for well, for anyone. but let's say for young people, especially you know. what do you think should be the official? well i'm not sure. i mean, first of all, i'm short on range. been campaigning for all these years that there was a problem of that. there is a minority of lunatic criminals out to cause great harm . and out to cause great harm. and it's mostly women whose drinks get spiked. but in general, i think we should be careful not to sow fear. i mean, the night time economy has had enough problems that it is. all right to party young people's best years of their lives ruined because of lockdowns and vaccine, passport hysteria . so vaccine, passport hysteria. so i think the last thing we need is

another panic of people not going out drinking and having fun. but can i just say i there is a problem. i don't think greater legislation is always the answer. i think litigious sickness often , you know, sickness often, you know, self—defeating dawn , it's a fair self—defeating dawn, it's a fair point that, you know , young, point that, you know, young, young people have had a rotten few years without a shadow of a doubt. and the and the night time industry, the hospitality industry in general has been battered . we have to be careful battered. we have to be careful that we don't put another nail in the coffin by encouraging young people not to go where the dnnks young people not to go where the drinks might be spiked. i totally agree. and you know what ? i can't stand it when i go and speak to young people and they say we're not going out anymore , but let's not forget, let's go back and look at all these this evidence that we have of this has been going on for years . and has been going on for years. and the only time anybody's stood up and listened was when last year, when the girls night in happened . and you know what? when millions was lost through the

economy, then everyone suddenly sat up and started to listen . sat up and started to listen. because this has been going on almost straights for decades. it's something that is not educated on by not having a clear guidance to the general pubuc clear guidance to the general public like what was just mentioned there is about people spiking people's drinks, but also alcohol is a drug. it's socially acceptable drug . and i socially acceptable drug. and i know people who thought they were being kind by sticking a double in somebody's drink , double in somebody's drink, stick an extra alcohol in someone's drink is also a form of spiking is also something that needs to be legislated on. and what we have now is people saying, oh, okay , you know, saying, oh, okay, you know, sticking something, it's someone's drink. if it's not done with malicious intent. oh, it was just a prank. that person could be on medication. they can have to drive, operate machinery . it really needs clear guidance . daniel, what's the solution ? . daniel, what's the solution? is it more legislation or how

else do we tackle something so pernicious worrying ? the point pernicious worrying? the point about education is very important because you said we you know, we shouldn't discourage kids from going to places where they drinks might be spiked. well maybe we should maybe we should be encouraging to go places that are to go to places that are properly managed and set in properly managed and set up in such a that we would be able such a way that we would be able to they're not going to be to say they're not going to be spiked there is spiked and that there is a proper education campaign . how proper education campaign. how do does everyone protect do you how does everyone protect the a nefarious the drink from from a nefarious presence wants slip presence that wants to slip something into well, you something into it? well, you know , it's question about know, it's all a question about what's acceptable. isn't it? and that's part of the education thing, this idea of it's a jape, it's fun , it's a joke. i do all it's fun, it's a joke. i do all that needs to be educated out of people . i don't agree with people. i don't i agree with carrie. i think inventing a new law specifically for it won't make very much difference at all. i think the idea that we have that are we should be constant , only increasing prison constant, only increasing prison sentences to express disapproval is turning into a nightmare that

we're going to have to confront at some stage because that's not producing any solutions not just on this issue but on others . so on this issue but on others. so i think you're absolutely right . it's a wrong it's disgusting it's a horrible thing to do. but i think inventing a new law is just not going to make a difference. don't for practical things. can people do what you know, youngsters are maybe particularly young women. what should they be looking out for being aware of order to keep being aware of in order to keep each and themselves safe? each other and themselves safe? well, there's quite a few things. obviously that people can do to safeguard themselves. but first of all, just going back to that point about where to go, we're saying that spiking shouldn't be a new law that's not what we're asking for right now . what we're asking for is an now. what we're asking for is an amendment to the current laws so that they can then look at. so if we were to go out tonight and someone said, oh, i spoke all just for a joke, and i was thrown outside of a nightclub, i'm left in a vulnerable position where someone else could come pick me up, take could come and pick me up, take me and do whatever they

me home, and do whatever they wanted. that's the sort of thing that need to show clear that we need to show clear guideline and what can guideline and so on. what can people do to safeguard themselves? we've got lots of different things on the market that spy kids to go in a bottle or a stop top or a nightcap just to cover your drink, stop an to cover your drink, to stop an opportunist . and, you know, opportunist. and, you know, let's all start looking out for each other . i let's all start looking out for each other. i don't let's all start looking out for each other . i don't know why each other. i don't know why everyone's suddenly got so selfish. it's like and i totally agree that the night time economy suffered , but this is economy is suffered, but this is why we need to funding to be able to go in because these crimes have been happening for decades now and it's about time we stepped up to protect the young people that are going out on our streets every weekend. don't, don't, don't see or stamp on spiking. thank you so much for putting our spotlight on a very a very serious issue. thank you . time for a break now. but you. time for a break now. but between now and 8:00, i'll meet the smallest ever woman to reach the smallest ever woman to reach the final of england will the final of miss england will cross the united states to discuss the miracle birth of two elephant twins. and we'll talk

about the seal as annoying anglers by eating thousands , anglers by eating thousands, applying for a fish and an essex reservoir. i will be back in a few minutes .

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bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom. three women and a seven year old girl have been injured. a suspected drive by shooting outside a funeral in north london . the women, aged 41, 48 london. the women, aged 41, 48 and 54, are being treated in hospital. the 48 year old has suffered potential life changing injuries . the girl has also been injuries. the girl has also been taken to hospital, but her condition is currently . police condition is currently. police say no arrests have yet been made . the uk has sanctioned made. the uk has sanctioned iran's prosecutor general following the execution of a british—iranian national accused of spying . prime minister rishi of spying. prime minister rishi sunak described the killing of ali reza akhbar as callous and cowardly. iran state media is reporting the british ambassador has been summoned to iran's foreign ministry , which is foreign ministry, which is accusing britain of meddling in their national security . but their national security. but foreign secretary james cleverly says the government will temporarily . its ambassador from temporarily. its ambassador from iran and that they are considering further action against tehran . what i found out

against tehran. what i found out earlier this morning from the officials in tehran that this had taken place . of course, had taken place. of course, i was filled with the with the revulsion that i think any reasonable person would have thatis reasonable person would have that is why we have taken this decisive action . that is why decisive action. that is why we've made it clear that our response will not necessarily be limited to the measures that we have announced today. we take this incredibly seriously . us this incredibly seriously. us president joe biden's legal team say they found an additional five pages of documents marked as classified at his home in delaware earlier week. his team admitted they found other classified documents at his home and in his garage from his time as vice president during the obama administration. the us attorney general has appointed a special counsel to investigate the matter , at least five people the matter, at least five people have been killed after a russian missile strike hit an apartment building in central. tinny prose regional governor says at least

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to neil. neil thanks, bethany. now beauty pageants are traditionally the territory of the tallest among the female population . my next the female population. my next guest tonight , emily harrison guest tonight, emily harrison from birmingham, successfully challenged that convention when she set out to prove that in her own words , a girl should be two own words, a girl should be two things. who and what she wants? musician and student emily, who stands five feet tall and a bare feet , reached the finals of the feet, reached the finals of the latest miss england contest, becoming the smallest contestant ever to do so . joins me now. ever to do so. joins me now. hello, emily. thank you for coming. hi, neal. how did you get on in the finals? so the finals was really great. i did notice, particularly on the smallest contestant and smallest contestant in the finals in the whole 94 , five year pageant whole 94, five year pageant history . so it was really good . history. so it was really good. well, how did you feel taking part in amongst, i'm presuming, people in the main who were significantly taller? well, it was it was definitely very different looking at the height

the height difference , a missing the height difference, a missing look don't have any weight restrictions . so i did feel that restrictions. so i did feel that was good and i could represent smaller people. it wasn't until i actually got to taking part in the semi—finals and the finals that i saw how small i was. but yeah, it did make me feel like i'm looking up to a lot of people, but i'll still feel that as a petite, small person. i've got a lot to give and hopefully i'll show. well, the fact that you mention that there is no height , you mention that there is no height, qualification or requirement to enter the competition clearly says that the organisers don't think height got anything to do with the qualities they're looking for anyway. yeah it's up to you to, to sell what it is that you offer society. yeah, that's definitely true . i think i've definitely true. i think i've looked into , you know, quite looked into, you know, quite a few that do have height restrictions. i mean, even not going into high end fashion lines like victoria's , i think lines like victoria's, i think they have quite restrictions . so they have quite restrictions. so to able to sort of break the to be able to sort of break the boundanesin to be able to sort of break the boundaries in that industry, something i'm hoping to do with ones know , that ones that can, you know, that they really want restrictions

that i'm hoping to. it's a challenge sort of pave the way for more petite models. do you feel that in life in general up to now , your height has affected to now, your height has affected your opportunity of the way people? i don't think so. no, i think well , people? i don't think so. no, i think well, we can we can find some discrimination, really a smaller we might seem sort of more, if not more into the area, less powerful as a shorter person . i know that like in the person. i know that like in the modelling industry , the clothes modelling industry, the clothes look better on a tall person . i look better on a tall person. i think that's, you know, all showcase and garments more for all of us and but i think we, we can definitely show that to a petite people it's all of our strengths. the confidence that we have what we can bring to we have and what we can bring to the table, knowing our strengths about beauty of own body and about the beauty of own body and as a petite person, i think that i can represent that you've qualified you know, for qualified have, you know, for further competitions specifically about being more petite than i thought i have, yes, i've qualified for an international pageant,

specifically for petite . this specifically for petite. this will be in tampa, in florida. specifically for petite. this will be in tampa, in florida . so will be in tampa, in florida. so i'm hoping to represent and show the petite girls can do it. so i know that there is a large gap that can be filled in the industry. i'm hoping to sort of represent for that market and show them that we can do that and the notes i see that really, really . your passion is music, really. your passion is music, is that right ? really. your passion is music, is that right? music really. your passion is music, is that right ? music is my is that right? music is my passion. when i auditioned, i was asked what could do to stand out . and that reignited my out. and that reignited my passion for music a lot because i went to music college a long time ago , so i went straight off time ago, so i went straight off school to music, but then i sort of went down academic route. so really reignited my passion. i was able to perform three times throughout. i performed at sequin wars with a george dancer who voted me in. that's a guy, or she's the owner of sepinwall okay they perform backdrops they my backdrop was for adele and itv the i love my what kind of music is it that you perform so outside r&b quite modern hip hop

style . um, i'm hoping to create style. um, i'm hoping to create my vast this year and release a bit of my music and show everyone a new busk. i think that i do, yeah. i've been part time busking. they started from miss england , so almost for miss england, so almost for charity i raised £700 for the missing lunch. i was a busy with a purpose and also a stillborn charity because i had a sister that passed away as a stillborn. so i thought that was something that really resonated with me . that really resonated with me. and i was able to raise money for both of those and schengen town and it's not enough continue books really continue to do books i really enjoy teddy sensitive beauty enjoy it. teddy sensitive beauty pageants have moved on some from i don't know you know i remember when they were more prominent on television and the rest but you know encouraging people to bring forward other skills you know, raise money for charity . well, i raise money for charity. well, i just i just say congratulations and well done. you because, i mean, i made a film about women

called women a success story a few years ago. and i women who were doing the pageant on on they were doing a on a boat. they were doing them on boat. in fact, up in worcester , i'm going fact, up in worcester, i'm going to be on a cruise ship as well. also a cruise ship as well. yeah and i met the most fantastic women . it was at a and i met the most fantastic women. it was at a time and i met the most fantastic women . it was at a time when women. it was at a time when there was all this hysteria about women modelling. okay. and you know that attempts to stop women who were the race track girls know i'm formula one and a big panic about that rather than seeing women model like yourself do it because they love it and they love the attention and they deserve it for looking great and i think you get, you know, double medals from me but doing it as a petite yeah definitely really wants to represent done what's how you got to do with anything. i would say i think i didn't has to do anything at all. i think emily has exactly that. she shows that you can win whatever your height and she looked ahead tonight . confident,

looked ahead tonight. confident, gracious, beautiful . a winner. gracious, beautiful. a winner. well done, emily. you. yeah, i mean it will open doors. that's the thing . yeah. i'm hoping this the thing. yeah. i'm hoping this thing that but those competitions you know for people that are that have that look down upon these kind of competitions the absolutely give people opportunities to get you you're going to you're going to florida , going to spend time on florida, going to spend time on a cruise ship. you're going to meet who knows who you're going to you know, other people, to meet, you know, other people, you know, in the in the industry and can be transformative. and it can be transformative. you did you have you know, did you did you have any , don't hesitation any, i don't know, hesitation about putting forward ? about putting yourself forward? you doing you ever contemplated doing anything like i had well before? i haven't anything i haven't doing anything like this. don't i'll just sort of this. i don't i'll just sort of knew about me single for a while, but was just sort of a random, you know, i want to go for the experience gaining some confidence while i'm there. well, because so well, and also because i'm so small that , you know, that small show that, you know, that can done and i've seen lot can be done and i've seen lot when i looked online for like small models i was looking for what sort of short models are out i found it was coming

out there i found it was coming up with a of people that are up with a lot of people that are still like five six or seven still like five or six or seven and i thought i'll look a bit more i found lily lily more of and i found lily lily def johnny debts daughter she's five two she's got close to myself and she models myself all year and she models for it's definitely for chanel's it's definitely possible to get opportunities and ifs possible to get opportunities and it's finding and i think it's just finding those and then breaking the industry market for where there are how restrictions what is next for you what's your what do do you hope will be opened by all of this? i'm hoping that i can after florida change the market standards and the ones that do have the hope restriction really show that we can you know, we can do it. does it matter about how it doesn't define us, it doesn't define our success. it's about what we bnng success. it's about what we bring and are as a bring and who we are as a people, our passion and our drive. people, our passion and our dnve.so people, our passion and our drive. so it's fascinating, isn't it? in this day and age, we're still judging people. i mean, so irritated by mean, i'm so i'm so irritated by the tone of people, the the tone of people, by the colour of skin that has colour of their skin that has become prominent and the fact become so prominent and the fact that we're still bothering , you that we're still bothering, you know, someone's height dictate whether they're beautiful

whether or not they're beautiful , whether or not they should be part any industry. seems part of any industry. it seems bizarre. is it ludicrous? i bizarre. it is it ludicrous? i actually you know, emily, actually think you know, emily, you'll go a long way and i think it is within the fashion industry, although there are other things are other other things that are funny about, you know, i think being a policewoman, you have to being a policewoman, you have to be a certain height. now, i think there are other industries where those kind of where there are those kind of physical but physical restrictions. but i think an aerospace the main, think an aerospace in the main, i it's dying out. but we i think it's dying out. but we have seen a comeback of ridiculous ideas , skin colour, ridiculous ideas, skin colour, you know , and difference that i you know, and difference that i think we should . but the world think we should. but the world is becoming a lot more diverse . is becoming a lot more diverse. stephanie definitely needs to change way for that and i think it's also that people are emily stick what she wants to do and has go because the vilification of modelling the idea that women who do things and show off their bodyin who do things and show off their body in their beauty are somehow objectifying women i think is very backward idea. rather than saying women can do whatever they want and go for it big

time. stephanie, octavia , emily time. stephanie, octavia, emily hanson, please keep the torch burning for us when you go to florida, i will definitely miss english. we live in from florida. all the best of all. good luck to you. thank you very much for coming in. thank you so much. good luck. we're going into break after which we'll find about the historic find out about the historic birth twin in the birth of twin at a zoo in the united states of america. see it in 3 minutes .

hello again. this is neil oliver live . the birth of healthy live. the birth of healthy elephants in a new york zoo has been described as historic and miracle keepers had been well aware that mum molly was pregnant . the arrival of the pregnant. the arrival of the second baby took everyone by surprise as twins account for fewer than 1% of elephant births. and when they occur, they rarely survive . the two new they rarely survive. the two new asian elephants were born last year at the rosamond gifford zoo inside accused new york and of doing well . dr. ted fox,

doing well. dr. ted fox, director of the rosamond giffords zoo, joins me now. hello, ted. how you . and i'm hello, ted. how you. and i'm great, neil. thank you very much . this for me for me anyway is a fantastic story. talk me through what happened. you knew molly was was was great with child . was was was great with child. yes she was. this is actually fourth pregnancy and so everything was going along very normally . the veterinary care normally. the veterinary care staff and the elephant care staff and the elephant care staff were their normal drills to make sure we were all prepared for in the event of the birth. we did not know that there was a second calf until was born. so that was a huge surprise . after the first calf surprise. after the first calf was born at about am on october 24th. and we were very happy that it was a healthy 24th. and we were very happy that it was a health y £220 baby that it was a healthy £220 baby who got up within minutes or so

and started nursing bonding with molly. so we were all kind of relaxed a little bit, but and then we were waiting for the placenta to be best because we're doing we're involved with , with for stem research to come up with herpes virus vaccine which is can be lethal. up with herpes virus vaccine which is can be lethal . the which is can be lethal. the elephants not only in human care but in the wild population. so we're very active in that that research. we were waiting for the to collect that to get it to the to collect that to get it to the lab and at about o'clock the next morning they were waiting they had that will prepared to get it shipped right away . and get it shipped right away. and it the second case and they didn't it was a second calf until it actually hit the ground and he was a little bit weak . and he was a little bit weak. his respiratory rate was lower than normal. his his heart rate was lower. so the veterinary care staff and animal care staff jumped to in what they do best. and helped him, supported him, got him breathing better and it

was a little longer, about a half hour before he was able to stand . but it's as soon that stand. but it's as soon that happened and people from around the country or around the world actually, and including at whipsnade and blackpool , we were whipsnade and blackpool, we were interested to know what they thought would happen with that second calf internally and within the community in the united states, with the elephant care people, they thought there is a good chance of the seven second calf would maybe be rejected because it was so long after . and, you know, elephants after. and, you know, elephants have evolved to have a single calf, but that molly proved us completely wrong. and it was was equally he is focussed on taking care of that second calf as she was first and her grandmother targa who was also at the zoo, helped her do that . so it's an helped her do that. so it's an amazing, amazing to see these two little guys and how well doing and how well they're fitting the whole social group now we're watching, we're

looking at these four tastic fantastic pictures of these baby elephant . i fantastic pictures of these baby elephant. i don't fantastic pictures of these baby elephant . i don't know if fantastic pictures of these baby elephant. i don't know if this is a silly question, but given that it was twins with the two be half the size at birth of a normal single elephant or not that's typically what would happen and that's probably a good reason why they don't usually as i said, the first calf was born and it wa s £220. calf was born and it was £220. so he is a little than we expected given the size of molly through her pregnancy. but we weren't terribly alarms because she looked she didn't look like she looked she didn't look like she was carrying second calf and two toes. although it's a little bit low. it's not half the size. typically they're in between 200 and £300 when they're born single calf and the second calf was £237. so he was even bigger. so she she had a lot of weight to carry through that pregnancy . so two, two boys and two

males, they traditionally i mean, are elephants good parents in the wild as well? mean, are elephants good parents in the wild as well ? very good in the wild as well? very good parents. they're very focussed on the protection in the calf right . the second they're born, right. the second they're born, like so many mammals in the elephant society , it's not just elephant society, it's not just the mother that that ends up taking care of them and focusing on the calf. but certainly any of her extended family , in our of her extended family, in our case, it's she has a sister, an and her granny, her mother molly's mother, tiger. i'll and we're very, very interested in the birth and i think they were all a bit confused from from what we were observing they weren't quite sure how to, you know, navigate those first few hours with two calves. one would lay down and, you know , quiet. lay down and, you know, quiet. and then the other one would be rambunctious , calling out and rambunctious, calling out and they just were typically they would focus on the one laying down because it was at risk if

there was a predator in the area, they would want to focus on guarding that. but then there was a second calf that wasn't laying and it it was very laying and it was it was very interesting to watch. we've had lots behaviourists to lots of behaviourists come to see the dynamics in this family group that it's just remarkable . well, you know , daniel . well, you know, daniel elephant, i think we all hold elephants quite dear. don't we there's something special simply about the look of them and the way that they behave around each other. yes. there is no. and the family connections and the caring quality to them. and this is an amazing event and it's so extreme , rare. and for it to extreme, rare. and for it to happen a zoo and probably in this case for people who don't like zoos is probably a really good example of how being in a zoo gives these two calves the best chance of survival . best chance of survival. actually, because they got people that who can actually care for them and understand elephant health and so on. whereas in the wild, maybe one of them could easily have died . of them could easily have died. a hopeful story caring to see

the images are fantastic as well are absolutely fantastic. i mean . q is how are you? what can you say? yeah you'd have to have a holstein and i do think donna's got a point about because i find the anti zoo stuff a bit over the anti zoo stuff a bit over the top, but brilliant isn't ted is the plight of the asian elephant globally . globally it's elephant globally. globally it's like so many species that are endangered the populations continue dwindle and that's why to daniel's point the animals in human in zoos and, in parks and so forth are , so critical for us so forth are, so critical for us , they can't sample animals in the wild on a daily basis. blood samples or to check their levels , tb or hiv, the virus in the in a zoo setting, they can it's all through positive reinforcement and training. through positive reinforcement and training . we're talking to and training. we're talking to the university. i think it's

siri. siri that is working on the vaccine as well as one of the vaccine as well as one of the universities here in the united states and hoping desperately that we can come up with a vaccine for that because this is so critical and otherwise they think that that population would continue to decline, that an even greater rate we're also involved with some really interesting research now , mitigation between now, mitigation between elephants and agriculture in their range countries is very important. like so many wild animals that encroach when humans populations start to grow , they get in the elephants asia and asia certainly love to get into the crops and eat them, and which affects of course the agriculture markets and their bees , they found out honeybees bees, they found out honeybees are somewhat an enemy to just like they are with humans . so like they are with humans. so now they're coming up with how closely you could put beehives around the agricultural . and

around the agricultural. and which would prevent the elephants from coming in. so we're actually doing some of that research here and sending in them all of that data and many around the world are many zoos around the world are doing the thing . i remember doing the same thing. i remember being amazed when i learned that elephants , when they come across elephants, when they come across in the world and come across the bones of the fellows, dead elephants. yes they knew them for what they are. and they stop and they spend time in the and they the bones and they they touch the bones and they make that little bit make sounds that a little bit like. they certainly seem like. well, they certainly seem to understanding to be understanding that they're in fellow in the presence of fellow travellers and that that's that sense community across the sense of community across the elephant i remember being elephant world. i remember being touched by but dr. ted fox touched by that, but dr. ted fox what i want a full upbeat, heartwarming and hopeful story. so thank you so much for bringing that. to us and sharing with us there is a astonishing images of twin elephant medical book.thank images of twin elephant medical book. thank you very much. thank you very much as well . after you very much as well. after another break, i'll be joined by another break, i'll be joined by a positive psychology coach who wants to persuade more women

that they can have it all. i'll be back in 3 minutes.

welcome to neil oliver live . welcome to neil oliver live. tomorrow on gb news, we'll you an exclusive interview with . an exclusive interview with. labour mp kim ledbetter. an exclusive interview with. labour mp kim ledbetter . she's labour mp kim ledbetter. she's been speaking to gloria de piero about the matter of . her sister, about the matter of. her sister, jo cox . how much more needs to jo cox. how much more needs to be done to protect politicians and why she will never hold surgeries with voters ? i think surgeries with voters? i think it's really funny . it. loss surgeries with voters? i think it's really funny. it. loss is very strange . grief is very very strange. grief is very strange. and at the centre of any loss it's a bit like an onion isn't it. you've got losing that person and then you've got the circumstances around that loss. and like i lost my grandparents ripe old age of nineties and that was sad but it wasn't tragic and we were all upset . we were devastated.

all upset. we were devastated. then got losing people through illness . you've got losing illness. you've got losing people through, you know all sorts of different i think murder just sorts of different i think murderjust gives sorts of different i think murder just gives everything sorts of different i think murderjust gives everything a murder just gives everything a whole new dimension . you can whole new dimension. you can watch that interview with kim leadbeater tomorrow on gloria meats where. you'll find out who the person behind the politician is. that's every sunday at 6 pm, according to our next p.m, according to our next guest. women can have a career, bnng guest. women can have a career, bring up children and still time out for themselves . kelly out for themselves. kelly clarkson is a marketing and also a positive psychology coach and of clients that everything is possible with the right approach and mindset. kelly joins me now . good evening. hi. thanks joining us. thanks for having me. thanks for fitting us into what might be hectic schedule just a bit. is it true you have had this claim before that women can but women can have it can find but women can have it all? true i think if you want it all, can have it all and you all, you can have it all and you have decide what having it have to decide what having it all you. because all actually means. you. because for it's about spending time

for me, it's about spending time with my family and my daughter. as you mentioned , and also as you mentioned, and also building that love building a business that love that me time , freedom to that gives me time, freedom to do the stuff that i want to do, which kind of looking after which is kind of looking after my well, spend time my health my well, spend time with family and yeah, just with my family and yeah, just enjoying finer in life enjoying the finer in life rather than just working of rather than just working all of the time. i think you've got the time. so i think you've got to figure that means to to figure out what that means to you. the of the you. does the idea of the dangung you. does the idea of the dangling that notion of having all, that put pressure all, does that not put pressure on and on someone who either doesn't want do that or in any event finds trying to cover all the bases simply impossible ? the bases simply impossible? yes. so it is impossible. and the thing you need to do is visualise what it is that you actually want. so i think it took me having daughter and realising that maybe i didn't want to climb the ladder as a marketing manager that i was at the time to become cmo with some big corporation. did big corporation. actually did some lot reflection some quite a lot of reflection really her and really after having her and realising that wanted build realising that i wanted to build something for myself that something more for myself that gave flexibility. so you

gave me that flexibility. so you need to get clear on what it is that you want to do for yourself and what that means for you and your family. but also, i'm not perfect. i drop balls perfect. i drop loads of balls all time. so i do not do all of the time. so i do not do everything. i think i've just made peace with the that made peace with the fact that i'm uncomfortable my i'm uncomfortable about my massive list or all of the massive to do list or all of the emails i haven't answered or the things haven't done around the things i haven't done around the house. ultimately, i house. but ultimately, because i have goal of building have that goal of building a business a life that works , business and a life that works, me family, i'm cool to me and my family, i'm cool to let these balls drop. i'm just going to get the things done that i need to do. can identify though with with women who want who see work outside of who do want see work outside of the house. yes. women for whom the house. yes. women for whom the focus is , the home, the the focus is, the home, the family, the children and you know and everything . focusing know and everything. focusing upon a household and a family. yeah then can you identify with that mind? yes, absolutely. and i think it comes back to that idea of is it that gives you happiness. so you mentioned i'm a positive psychology coach. well, part of is working out you

can have a life that feels like a meaningful and good life for you.so a meaningful and good life for you. so absolutely. if you want to stay at home and be a stay at home mum or parent, and that gives you the joy and the positive emotions that you're looking absolutely brilliant. i think of manchester, right? the balance myself in terms of having that time at home with my daughter, taking them out on day trips also building an trips and also building an exciting business that's fulfilling the career of fulfilling the career side of things. but absolutely, i've got friends staying. i think self—employment key. self—employment is the key. carrie how's your house, your balance ? how's your work life? balance? how's your work life? oh, my work life balance is terrible and fabulous at the same time , i've always done what same time, i've always done what i want to do . i mean, i've got i want to do. i mean, i've got a lot of time for what kelly saying , but i think, you know, saying, but i think, you know, society has changed. so thankfully the is no longer women to be the breathing machines and just the cook and the cleaner and, the housekeeper and the carer and women can therefore make those choices . therefore make those choices. and it's interesting that as say

there are women now who are just saying, yeah, well, hey, career and work is not for me and that's great. if you can afford it not to be. but i think missing ingredient here is the fact that was the cash going to come from you for low women. for a lot of families . women have to a lot of families. women have to work, whether they'd like. it's not about an individual or, you know, psychological journey or choice or reflection . i know choice or reflection. i know you've done a lot of side hustles. i've read some of your stuff, kelly and it's great, but she has talks about side hustles. are you going to get the cash from to do that? and that's the reality for me at the moment, i've got to find other work and i'll come here and do gb news or whatever because i just cannot pay the bills at the moment and. that's the reality for women. these are tricky times for everyone, are they not? i think the message that i'm taken from this is that people have to be absolutely flexible and look around all the

possibilities that there are for keeping a home together and for bringing in the money. as katie says, you've got to be ready to think about all every opportunity possible, every option. well, i don't see most i'm like i'm being difficult, but i do think is i'm grateful that her on how she's managed her which is entirely her choice . but i do think it's a little bit dangerous to be suggesting to people that they can they can manage anything, everything when manifestly most people know they may be capable doing it don't actually in doing that and it is the danger isn't kerry that all the danger isn't kerry that all the women stay at home and just have children and cooking because that has more happening. the danger is they spend all that time working and with seeing a replacement birth rate in this country which has now fallen to 1.63, people aren't

having children and nowhere and nowhere near enough to replace those were dying out at these at these rates . and i think that's these rates. and i think that's because an awful of people are under this too . there's two under this too. there's two income per family pressure which is very much a thing of the last 30 years that it's that it's and was always women did always got work for that but it wasn't all of they didn't feel they all had to go out work in order to have the basics of life. and we've got that now and i think it's i think the idea that you can make it all fine. it's not all fine . it all fine. it's not all fine. there are lots of problems. what do you see? do you see? it's talking about so i would like to say that i started my business with no financial support. in fact, didn't any savings fact, i didn't have any savings and did have some debt because and i did have some debt because i to work part time i went back to work part time like so salary like three days week. so salary rotterdam a lot of money, rotterdam wasn't a lot of money, right? so i started my business with second hand laptop with a second hand laptop that cost quid. in fact, cost me 50 quid. in fact, i bought my previous employer bought it my previous employer and. so much and. there is so much opportunity for women to create a business online. so my

business is all online and i've utilise the skills and the degree and all of the work experience i've had up to this point to, the market and so my services a marketer for other entrepreneurs and i work with a lot of the women owned businesses primarily who are there on the kitchen table while there on the kitchen table while the are doing whatever, the kids are doing whatever, building amazing online building an amazing online business paying them business which is paying them more have ever been more than they have ever been able earn their previous able to earn in their previous job, true for me. i'm job, which is true for me. i'm making more money i've ever making more money than i've ever made life. i'm proud to made in my life. i'm proud to say that, i've done it all say that, and i've done it all off my inbox. so it's true that i do have home. so my husband, he said to me, go for it when i said, i think i'm going to leave my and do this thing. that's my job and do this thing. that's a a side hustle full a bit of a side hustle full time. do think in terms time. what do you think in terms of financial backing? i had nothing. i just went for it. i did take a leap, but that's my personality. and ultimately had in strong of in my mind that strong vision of i my daughter to and i am walking my daughter to and from school this career from school day and this career business building for business i'm building for myself. the facilitator myself. that's the facilitator to every that's to do that. so every day, that's what i of and what gets me what i think of and what gets me really motivated doing my thing.

can say, just can i just say, well, i just quickly wanted to know. i just think it's great idea. think that it's great idea. i think that it's great idea. i think that's and a lot think that's great and a lot more women can do that kind of thing. i just slightly worry, daniel, crushing daniel, that you're crushing people's you know, people's aspirations, you know, choices is something we want to promote , you know, not women and promote, you know, not women and women those choice and women making those choice and women making those choice and women having babies in women not having babies later in life. don't think amanda life. and i don't think amanda p0ppy life. and i don't think amanda poppy population panic poppy and under population panic any more than an overpopulation panic helps anyone and i think it's great that women can choose i'm just saying we to deal with the material circum that are deleted race to women choosing kerry i think i kelly i think choice that's what it means that's the important thing for me. as long as every individual person's choice as it suits their existence has to be part of me. kelly clarkson entrepreneur. i so much for your time. thank you so much for having. thank you. after the break, i'll meet this week's great britain's two women who did a full monty strips. you are right. we will out on the

right. we will find out on the way to raising right. we will find out on the way to raisin g £50,000 way to raising £50,000 for a cancer charity. you in 3 cancer charity. see you in 3 minutes .

hello again. welcome back. this is we would see you cold. nelson is we would see you cold. nelson is living the dream in an essex league he found his way rochford reservoir at the end of last year and since then he has helped himself to an estimated £3,000 worth, helped himself to an estimated £3,000 worth , £3,000 worth of £3,000 worth, £3,000 worth of carp, catfish bream, furious fishermen find him to be no admirable. nelson there are even concerns that if he's not caught and relocated soon, he may even eat so many fish he will make himself ill . simon dennis from himself ill. simon dennis from the british divers marine life rescue joins to discuss the prospects the seal. he surely thinks he's living his best life this is great assignment . he's this is great assignment. he's a very happy chap. certainly wherever they come from, how do

they find we interact? well, yeah.the they find we interact? well, yeah. the whole network of that bit of essex is little creeks and mud banks and andre villas . and mud banks and andre villas. we had one a couple of years ago, ended up on the rugby club pitch in southend , which is pitch in southend, which is on the same so they do come the same book. so they do come upstream. inquisitive . upstream. they're inquisitive. he's the bank for he's gone over the bank for a little where that feeds the rest of our and hey presto, he's in a supermarket with an all you can eat as far as he's eat buffet as far as he's concerned and there's no issue with him being in fresh water. i mean, i know they do. i know he's a mammal and he breeds. but still, yeah, it's a marine creature. it's not the best for their skin. and he's got a couple of injuries which is one of the reasons we need to get hold of them they don't obviously nothing well obviously nothing heals as well in freshwater it does in in freshwater as it does in salt. he should in east salt. and he should be in east where is other social where there is other social interactions on. he interactions going on. there he is people having people that look, he's giving himself round of that is he alone is of applause that is he alone is definitely only one seal. we definitely hope so . yeah. we definitely hope so. yeah. we think he went in probably mid

middle or early december and had been seen by some of the local boat owners in that area more inquisitive than the others . and inquisitive than the others. and coming up to the little creeks and things is a stocked reservoir is this somewhere that it is and yeah we're working very closely with nicko who runs the rest of our obviously it's his business. and at the moment closed by the council who own it. so we know we need to get this resolved for his sake. and there's actually possible that he could get himself into an alley. i've i've never heard of that happening . you know, like that happening. you know, like any animal normally they'll regulate themselves , not eating regulate themselves, not eating as much as would if he was at as much as he would if he was at sea, because got current to sea, because he's got current to swim got no swim against. he's got no competition with other sales for fish so he's spends most of fish so and he's spends most of his time hauled out on the small island that's in the middle. his time hauled out on the small island that's in the middle . how island that's in the middle. how might you go about catching him if and presumably over the long term is to get him out of the island, back into the sea? yeah, the long term objectives get hold of him. get him a local representation centre . south

representation centre. south essex wildlife hospital or handle about 40 or 50 sales a yeah handle about 40 or 50 sales a year. with us bdm and from then relocate him probably on the south coast not back in the essex area . how we do that, essex area. how we do that, we've had a couple of attempts with sort of nets on the lake . with sort of nets on the lake. they're incredibly agile in water like an urban lake has things like, you know, shopping trolleys and at the bottom. so we get a close with a we can't get a close with a night. the net at the bottom of the lake, he can swim over top. and as as we appear and obviously, as as we appear with a boat or anything like that, across from his that, he looks across from his island and disappears. they can say underwater up to 20 minutes. so actually working out where he is any is a challenge so is at any time is a challenge so we're talking to a of those and other experts around the rest of the world bay daimler as an organisation has huge international links carry the streets means almost the stuff of a at least a children's illustrated shoot and nelson more i just is hilarious him more i just is hilarious and him being such a slipper re mother

in terms of getting away thought you guys were all kind of good at catching these kind of yeah i mean most of the ones we catch on on land and i think you were talking my colleague dan last week about all us. and thank we didn't have to try and catch something three quarters of a tonne with deflate with things like was. yeah, exactly that that just incredibly agile in water most of the recoveries rescues we do there on the beach they suffered dog bites or they've been ill other means and we get them and get we can get to them and get between them on the water therefore get hold of them safely in water is to coin a phrase, a whole different kettle of fish but it is amusing but it's difficult for nick and his business as well is daniel i think was something quintessentially british about it somehow about these anglers and yeah you see it stocks and a 19505 and yeah you see it stocks and a 1950s sort of press burger type film all of this you i want to know why is the council shut it

i mean that's might be a stupid question but why is the council shut down the fishing is it's a relatively small like and i think they've taken the decision that for the welfare of the sale and while we thought ourselves out and what to do next having anglers there that's the risk particularly if longer catches the sale the sale will then go up the fish as it's being wound, hook itself in and do itself quite a lot of damage that way. so there's a whole of little nest of reasons really. but i like the idea of . a film, maybe like the idea of. a film, maybe black and white with some mystery, just yeah , yeah. just mystery, just yeah, yeah. just to make matters even better for nelson, the fishermen aren't even allowed to say, yeah, there's no call. absolutely least of. he's got no competition at, all even from the even the fishermen. yeah. i mean it's a catch and release like any way. so he might, you know, it is a thing someone was helping to you . there's no way helping to you. there's no way of slipping him a game back to

spiking drinks early then slipping in the like . yeah, slipping in the like. yeah, there's only a couple of centres around the rest of the world who dart, for example, for the issue is they'll go into dive reflex if he goes into water, obviously it's not massively deep, but it's not massively deep, but it's murky. we would have went 4 seconds to find him before he shot down with an anaesthetic and he's got it sewn up. you can't touch people, can't fish , can't touch people, can't fish, you can't find them because every aquatic advantage going , every aquatic advantage going, yeah. so i mean, you know, that's supremely in their environment. it's a brilliant simon dennis british divers marine rescue. thank you so and itold marine rescue. thank you so and i told you to think reason now my great britain's tonight lost their husbands to cancer but responded their own losses by raising a small fortune for a charity that supports cancer sufferers and the families. while coping with their own heartbreak. julie cunningham and linda gordon both from south shields, have raised more £50,000 for the macmillan

charity in honour of the late husband's paul and tony. now i'm just told that linda and julie are of the linked has gone. no, i'm being told no the link is back. hello. they are linda and julie. i i'm going to go straight. thanks for joining julie. i i'm going to go straight. thanks forjoining me. i'm going to go straight in here and find out this full monty experience you had do tell experience that you had do tell all. well the original one we did in 2019, and it came about because julie and i had both watched the programme with ashley, banjo and oh, can you think of a name yeah , yes. and think of a name yeah, yes. and so when we cut a long story short, i rang and said, i've got idea for next and tony night and juue idea for next and tony night and julie said, i know what you're going to say. she said, it's the money isn't it. and i said, yeah, what do you think i. and

she said, i think it's a really goodidea she said, i think it's a really good idea so we got some of our friends and family involved . friends and family involved. well and the original in 2019 there was ten of us who did it and also did it again, just november 22, just gone , but it november 22, just gone, but it was only about seven hosted at that time. but yeah, it was, it was quite next viewings the first time because a bet surely anything like that before and we were all really nervous . but i were all really nervous. but i have to say it was absolutely fantastic. the night was the support as well . tremendous. support as well. tremendous. they were really supportive and the nerves kind of went when we got on stage . now tell me though got on stage. now tell me though about about tell me, about tony and paul, because i believe the four of you were were all friends together. you had known each other for four years. tell me tell me about them and your time together . that's it. yes. time together. that's it. yes. so my paul and he was diagnosed . in

so my paul and he was diagnosed. in four oesophageal cancer and but tony and paul was sort of they knew which of the first and juue knew which of the first and julie worked in the in the pub where paul and tony used to dnnk where paul and tony used to drink and we just sort of got to know other and after we were we both had our boys and because the boys at twin boys and julie's got it she's got three children but her youngest son was born around the same time as my two boys. and we just got to know each of us. so ever since then, from 95, from 1995, we've been really, really close and good friends. we went on holiday together with the children and stuff like that. so yeah, so really close anniversaries for the anniversaries for sort of within a couple of weeks of, each of them as well. so and quite often we would go, you know, away for the weekend or whatever to celebrate anniversaries. so yeah, we were really close . julie tell me, really close. julie tell me, tell me about what else? apart from the legend reveal. monty

what has been the nature of the fundraising that's enabled you to raise as much as £50,000. that's been our a period of about four year and that was doing and pieces there and was doing and pieces there and was doing quite a lot of stuff actually. we've had a toddler, we've a sponsored pub quiz . we we've a sponsored pub quiz. we were going from pole to pole guess things about the pole , and guess things about the pole, and we had the coffee morning. we're doing table top and the thought that that's bear was a friend of ours who's i'm not it's one of paups ours who's i'm not it's one of paul's best friends actually in a gym. he he was at. he ran like a gym. he he was at. he ran like a gym, a so people got sponsored do rowing machines , treadmills, do rowing machines, treadmills, the cross trainer and kind of thing. and that raised, i'm sure that we used about £500 and that for there's the first falls that's all the girls that were involved in some that's the set for all the girls that involved

in the set and money and the lady on the end the green jacket that's alicia and she she did all the for us . she did take all the for us. she did take part in the first one, but she didn't part in the second one. so yeah, that, that's all the girls was wonderful also including julian. i i think it's just this is a section know the great britain, it's just turning a pink some attention to people who've been been through something dreadful and yet despite the you know, telling into something you know, as into something else you know, as well as going through your own grief, the that you were grief, the rest that you were that were inspired to do that you were inspired to do something for the wider community and for other people going exactly same going through exactly the same thing a it's thing as you, it's such a it's such a credit to and it's such a credit to you, and it's uplifting to about people uplifting to hear about people that things . yeah. i that you these things. yeah. i mean, the is you know both juuan mean, the is you know both julian are you feel sad to know like a lot people have given us like a lot people have given us like lovely feedback and support but it's always been you know what is the old ted interview? you know, you can sort of go the depths of depression and things

like that for i think just through supporting each other. you know what, first, tony and julie, because tony was still alive when paul died and the support and they really, really it was just tremendous. and then obviously tony was diagnosed just before we sent a up. and you i would say forjulie, because i understood everything she was going through and tony was just supporting me, you know , i'm just running a team. but honestly you're an inspiration. it's a wonderful story . you so it's a wonderful story. you so much for that, linda , julie, much for that, linda, julie, thank you so . so from me on, thank you so. so from me on, neil oliver live. thanks as always to my panel, daniel moylan, kenny dingle. i'll be back at 6:00 next saturday. next up, it's mark dolan tonight. mark, what have you got ? neil mark, what have you got? neil thanks for another brilliant show. in my big opinion , i'm show. in my big opinion, i'm quite serious about this. it's an important issue . i've got to an important issue. i've got to talk about people sending their dogs off to be walked in large groups. a woman killed, muzzled

and to death by eight dogs. there needs to be a change in the law, but we kick off with the law, but we kick off with the people's hour. i'm taking video calls. should mps have second jobs. are they underpay paid and should we be tough on people that litter the streets lots to come. here's the weather . hello there. i'm craig snow . . hello there. i'm craig snow. and here's your latest forecast from the met office well, as we look ahead to sunday, it's going to be a brighter day for most of us, but it's certainly going to be good deal out be feeling a good deal out of some the showers actually some of the showers actually turn and snow. so turn into sleet and snow. so here's situation there here's the situation out there at the for saturday still at the moment for saturday still got area of low pressure got this area of low pressure dominating but as dominating in the uk. but as that moves away it start to that moves away it will start to then us to drag in some then allow us to drag in some colder air from arctic so colder air from the arctic so quite blustery end to the quite a blustery end to the night most the uk night across most of the uk we've this area of rain and we've got this area of rain and also snow across northern ireland scotland sinking its ireland in scotland sinking its way england as way into northern england too as the night on further across the night goes on further across the night goes on further across the rest of england, wales generally of clear generally a mixture of clear spells and a scattering. the show is better with colder show is better with the colder air becoming established across scotland, see further

scotland, we could see further snow showers and also some icy surfaces on any untreated roads . so going into sunday, a cold day for all of us as this area of rain and heavy snow continues to sink way southwards, weakening as it does so behind it, plenty of sunshine for all in the midlands, northern england and scotland, but further snow showers coming in across the far north of scotland throughout the day . if you throughout the day. if you factor the strength of the factor in the strength of the wind up here, it's going to be feeling fairly cold only feeling fairly cold highs, only 2 further south, generally 2 to 4 further south, generally around we for around where we should be for the time year. going into the the time of year. going into the evening, see the evening, we start to see the next of rain in across the next area of rain in across the south—west it pumps into the colder air. we could see some sleet and across the sleet and snow across the midlands wales. and then midlands and wales. and then later the night, later on in the night, just keeping close eye on the keeping a very close eye on the south—east this moves bit south—east if this moves a bit further northwards, could further northwards, we could just across the high just see sleet across the high ground the south—east ground of the south—east come monday start, monday morning. a cold start, though, for all us, especially in scotland. again, risk some in scotland. again, risk of some ice untreated surfaces. and ice on untreated surfaces. and then overall on monday , we will then overall on monday, we will see plenty of sunshine for

scotland, ireland, scotland, northern ireland, northern and eventually into the rest of england and wales. but wrap up warmly certainly will be a cold out there with some sleet and snow showers, especially in the north. and continues on the north. and that continues on tuesday wednesday wednesday .

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