tv Bev Turner Today GB News January 16, 2023 10:00am-12:01pm GMT
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hey, good morning. welcome to bev turner today on gb news. thank you for joining me. tv's dab radio and online. it is officially the most miserable day of the year on earth. so if you're feeling a bit today, you're not alone. stay with me for the next 2 hours and guest and i will do hours and my guest and i will do what keep your spirits what we can. keep your spirits lifted. it's a big day for the controversial public bill, controversial public order bill, which seeking which the government is seeking to toughen up before it becomes law. if passed, will mean law. if passed, it will mean that can shut down
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that police can shut down disruptive pre—empt disruptive protests, pre—empt before disruptive before they become disruptive civil liberties say that the plans go way too far, but maybe you're okay with that if it stops the just stop oil protesters blocking the roads and we're looking forward to getting stuck into that much more. trooper phil more. ex sas trooper phil campion and author amy nicholl. plus, news on teacher strikes and the royal rumours about king charles reaction to harry. that's all coming up after a look at the latest news . in the look at the latest news. in the bath. thanks very much. good morning from the gb newsroom, it's 10:01 police in england morning from the gb newsroom, it's10:o1 police in england and wales could be given powers to intervene in protests before they become disruptive. parliament today debate the amendment to the order bill which would allow police to shut down demonstrations . they cause down demonstrations. they cause disruption . if passed, it would disruption. if passed, it would make it easier for police to stop demonstrators blocking roads or slow marches. human rights group liberty say the
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plan amounted to an attack on the right to protest . but the right to protest. but policing minister chris philp says when it impacts people's lives, the police should have a right to intervene. of course we as a government, you know, right to intervene. of course we as a government , you know, fully as a government, you know, fully respect the right to protest , respect the right to protest, but that does need to be properly balanced with the right of the general public to go about their day to day lives and where some of these protesters have been delivered, rightly, trying to the lives of trying to ruin the lives of their citizens. we think their fellow citizens. we think that acceptable, it's that is not acceptable, but it's possible protest while the possible to protest while at the same allowing ordinary same time allowing ordinary citizens to go about their daily lives . former aide to the chief lives. former aide to the chief secretary, the treasury and the emirati told gb news there needs to be a balance here. there is a fine line here between being what sensible , policing and also what sensible, policing and also being perhaps, perhaps too heavy handed. and i think no wants to live in a police state and that may be some of the fears that people will be having when reading this policy. we want to live a country where the live in a country where the police are fair and firm, but
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not of restricting people's not sort of restricting people's right to protest . a 22 year old right to protest. a 22 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder following a drive by shooting at a church in central london on saturday. a seven year old girl has been left in a life threatening condition after shots were fired from a car at st aloysius church in euston . four other women and in euston. four other women and one child were also injured in the attack attack. thousands of teachers in england and wales could go on strike over pay is the results of a ballot will be announced later today. elsewhere nurses are walking out on wednesday , thursday, this week. wednesday, thursday, this week. members of the royal college of nursing have warned the next walkout could include all eligible members in england if no progress is made in negotiations. meanwhile leaders will meet today to decide whether to call more strikes among their ambulance members . among their ambulance members. it comes as the government calls demands unaffordable in scotland . meanwhile, teachers are beginning their 16 days of
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rolling strike action and an ongoing dispute over pay. schools in glasgow east lothian will only be open for pupils taking the preliminary exams. it comes after the scottish government offered a 5% pay offer on thursday . but union offer on thursday. but union members demand 10. people across northern ireland will begin £600. energy payments from today . this includes a £400 payment as part of the uk support scheme and the £200 as part of the country's on home heating oil . country's on home heating oil. some households will be sent voucher whilst others see papers by direct debit will receive the money in their bank accounts accounts . russia and belarus accounts. russia and belarus have begun joint military exercises with ukraine, fearing it could spark new ground offensive . russia previously offensive. russia previously used belarus during its invasion of ukraine last february and will now conduct air force drills together. belarus the air drills together. belarus the air
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drills are defensive and enter the war, whilst moscow denies it has been pressuring its ally to be more active in the conflict. but kyiv says the country must be ready for a potential attack at its border with belarus . at its border with belarus. italy's most wanted mafia boss has been arrested in sicily after 30 years on the run. matteo messina, denaro , who was matteo messina, denaro, who was detained in palermo , is alleged detained in palermo, is alleged to be a boss of the sicilian mafia. he's been sentenced to a life term for his role in the 1992 murders of two ante mafia prosecutors . as well as facing prosecutors. as well as facing life for his role in bomb attacks in florence, rome and milan , which killed ten people. milan, which killed ten people. the following year . milan, which killed ten people. the following year. marks and spencer announced plans to open 20 new shops across the uk . the 20 new shops across the uk. the store overhaul is said to create over 3000 jobs. the company also plans open eight full line stores , shopping centres in stores, shopping centres in
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birmingham or manchester and 12 new food halls in, places like barnsley or stockport . this is barnsley or stockport. this is gb news. more for me in half an houn gb news. more for me in half an hour. now it's back to beth . hour. now it's back to beth. craig, moaning the suspect time of day on gb news. thank you for joining me. here's what's coming up this morning. i remember last year when eco activists were blocking our roads in protests over use of oil. well, police be allowed to intervene with protest before they too disruptive under the new proposed measures. parliament will today debate the amendment to the public order bill. have your say here gb views at gbnews.uk. it sounds a little bit chilling to me . my bit chilling to me. my sympathies to working in scotland to schoolchildren will that will miss more lessons this
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week . teachers plan 16 days of week. teachers plan 16 days of rolling strikes action. this all happens as we await the results of the national education. 300,000 members who've been balloted on strike action which would affect england and wales next month . and on my panel this next month. and on my panel this morning i'll be joined by ex ss trooper campion. wonder what he thinks harry exposing his military service kill count and the super smart author and broadcaster amy nicole . and broadcaster amy nicole. and today's twitter poll, i'm asking you, do you support teachers taking strike action? email gb views at gb news uk or tweet me at gb news to have your say . at gb news to have your say. so rishi sunak will announce expansion to police powers that would give officers the ability to stop disruption before it begins. he'll claim he's answering calls from police chiefs who are asking for clarity on to how the so—called guerrilla tactics by eco protest groups like extinction rebellion
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orjust groups like extinction rebellion or just stop oil. groups like extinction rebellion orjust stop oil. speaking or just stop oil. speaking yesterday, the policing minister chris philp responded to claims this was an illiberal crackdown on the right to protest . of on the right to protest. of course, we as a government fully respect the right to protest , respect the right to protest, but that does need to be properly balanced with the right of the general public to go about their day to day lives and where some of these protesters have been deliberately trying to ruin the lives of their fellow citizens. we think that is not acceptable, but it's possible to protest while the same protest while at the same time allowing go their allowing citizens to go their daily lives . allowing citizens to go their daily lives. so joining us now in the studio is olivia utley . in the studio is olivia utley. good morning, olivia. nice to see you. and just remind us the background of this bill, how we've got to this point and why it's being introduced. public order bill is was introduced last year to try and crack down on protests such as the extinction rebellion . just stop extinction rebellion. just stop oil protests. the thinking is that protest is sort of taken on a new flavour in this country . a new flavour in this country. and so instead of sort of one
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off protest by the old group, we're seeing these protests again and again , the same groups again and again, the same groups which cause massive public disruption . and i think it was disruption. and i think it was pretty. patel first introduced it in order to try and help people ordinary people live their day to day lives because we've seen during the last year support for protest went down this amendment to the public order bill. it's quite interesting that there were three parts to it, essentially. one part is that it'll crackdown, it'll define slow walking protest as serious disruption. so last year we saw this issue with an extinction rebellion protest. you have people walking very slowly on the streets, bringing traffic to a complete standstill. no one able get anywhere. ambulance able to get anywhere. ambulance was to get through, etc, was unable to get through, etc, but sure whether but police weren't sure whether they intervene they were allowed to intervene because clear whether because it wasn't clear whether slow was counted as a slow walking was counted as a serious disruption . and then serious disruption. and then you've got the other elements it that i think i think the thing that i think i think the thing that struck me, olivia, with all of this is my understanding is
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that the police already have these laws. they have existing powers , which is why they're not powers, which is why they're not using them. well, yes. so what, rishi sunak is going to claim is that this isn't just a clarification of existing laws that are already in place. so it's slow walking at the allowing protest, allowing police to stop protest before they start age, which is very important. that's something which they're not yet allowed to do. so he will say that it isn't at all. crackdown on the rights of protesters . it's simply a way of protesters. it's simply a way to make sure that police are clear on on what the laws are. just a clarification of existing law, because you've a law, because you've got a situation in some situation now where in some areas , one argue, being areas, one could argue, being too timid in cracking down in protest and in other areas, they're doing things go a little beyond what the current legislation is. that's the way will frame it . legislation is. that's the way will frame it. but he legislation is. that's the way will frame it . but he is legislation is. that's the way will frame it. but he is likely to see pushback both from the labour party who quite often support the tactics of these these environmental protesters on the grounds that their protest is so, you know,
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anything can go . but also from anything can go. but also from the libertarian of his party, the libertarian of his party, the sort of trust sites who worry about the implications for free speech and worry that this is the start of a slippery slope. yeah. that said the pubuc slope. yeah. that said the public are pretty sick of protesters . the calculation from protesters. the calculation from the government seems be that this is probably quite an easy political win for the government and it has the bonus of making rishi sunak look tough at a time when people don't really feel he. in fact. yeah well, i am not one of those members of the public. one of those members of the pubuc.thank one of those members of the public. thank you. olivia olivia utley. i'm one of those members of the public that think this is a particularly good yes. a particularly good idea. yes. i don't our lives be don't want our lives be disrupted, but i also don't want them to take an absolute sledgehammer right to sledgehammer to the right to protest. so human rights campaigner joins campaigner peter tatchell joins me peter. me now. good morning, peter. thank joining this thank you for joining this morning. what are your concerns? do you share my worry that actually we all should have the legitimate rights to protest and protest will always cause an element of disruption. for some reason the police are not using
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the they already have . you're the they already have. you're absolutely right . the powers absolutely right. the powers already exist . but they're not already exist. but they're not properly being used . the big properly being used. the big danger with proposed amendment to the public order bill is that it would criminalise people not, because of what they have done , because of what they have done, but because of what the police they might do . so this is a bid they might do. so this is a bid to take pre—emptive action based on an interpretation by the police about what protesters could potentially do in order to shut them down. and that could mean that perfectly lawful, otherwise lawful and peaceful protests could fall within . the protests could fall within. the remit of the legislation and be banned and the participants arrested and a criminal conviction . so in the last conviction. so in the last couple of years, probably for the first time since protest going into iraq, the iraq war, we saw actually numbers of people protesting in the uk over
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government's decisions . i have government's decisions. i have never been a protester traditionally, but i was out on the roads at the freedom marches because i objected to children being kept from school. i objected to the draconian measures with the government apparently getting involved , the apparently getting involved, the minutiae lives. you minutiae of our lives. do you think it is entirely coincidental that they're now bringing in these powers . that bringing in these powers. that backdrop ? well, certainly we are backdrop? well, certainly we are seeing a very slow , gradual but seeing a very slow, gradual but very determined erosion of the right to protest . there've been right to protest. there've been a series of public order bills and legislations over recent years which have gradually given police more and more powers and placed more and more restrictions on the right to protest. now, of course, even if people say we want these disruptions shut down, that's not always the way it works. sometimes protests are not particularly disruptive , are particularly disruptive, are taken and shut down by the police , disrupted by the police police, disrupted by the police , or move by the police or
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otherwise restricted by the police. so we have to be very, very careful when proposing new legislation because what is happening is a cut by cut process of limiting freedom expression. and that will affect everyone. you may agree , just everyone. you may agree, just stop oil and extinction rebellion, but you may have a cause. rebellion, but you may have a cause . want to protest about cause. want to protest about under this new legislation you're. right to do so. maybe to be a criminal act and you could face arrest again , not because face arrest again, not because of what you have done, but because of what the police think you might do . do you think as you might do. do you think as olivia was saying that this is this actually quite a political move for rishi sunak he's perceived right to be fairly weak . this perceived right to be fairly weak. this might be seen as being strong. and, of course there are many people and i sympathise , those who've had sympathise, those who've had their lives disrupted because of these idiots that hang on. may 25 gantries and block roads and cause huge . the irony is it's
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cause huge. the irony is it's become a self—fulfilling prophecy . the irony is that the prophecy. the irony is that the people who were making such a huge amount of disrupt turn into people's lives have handed the government a stick to beat them, and therefore all of us with is. i'm not on that note really, and i'm not on that note really, and i know i'm talking a lot and i want you to hear what you. but i do feel very, very strongly about this and i think it's really important that people understand and what we might lose here is that once you give these it's not really these powers, it's not really traditional history the traditional in history that the government ever gave the power back people , is it? back to the people, is it? absolutely not. since the public order act in 1986, there have been a succession of increase . been a succession of increase. the repressive laws passed to restrict the right to protest and to give the police exceptional powers. we were when the public order act 1986 was passed, it was primarily to combat street hooliganism and rioting and football hooligans
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who went on the rampage after football matches. it's hardly ever been used against those . ever been used against those. it's increasingly used against peaceful protest . so i've been peaceful protest. so i've been arrested many times under the pubuc arrested many times under the public order act of 1996 for simply staging a peaceful protest. but the police interpreted my actions as falling within the remit of the law , and that protest has been law, and that protest has been shut down and i've been called off the police station. you're right . once the laws on the right. once the laws on the subject then have a repealed and that's not a huge , huge danger, that's not a huge, huge danger, we're going down a slippery slope, which is going to mean that anyone for any could have their protests deemed to be potentially disrupt , live and potentially disrupt, live and therefore shut down and. okay. thank you so much, peter tatchell , this morning. thank tatchell, this morning. thank you for joining tatchell, this morning. thank you forjoining us. tatchell, this morning. thank you forjoining us . you know you forjoining us. you know what? the fact is you know what, you might one day want to protest about . just don't know protest about. just don't know until something comes along that you feel really strongly about
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and suddenly as part of your democratic western rights, you no have the rights to no longer have the rights to protest. so i think it is something that we should all consider carefully a consider quite carefully now. a man arrested on man has been arrested on suspicion attempted murder suspicion of attempted murder after in north after a shooting in north london, left six people injured, including old girl including a seven year old girl who remains in a critical condition. the force say that the seven year old girl remains in stable but life in a stable but life threatening, threatening threatening, life threatening position the position in hospital. for the latest, our reporter latest, we can to our reporter theo chikomba who is in euston for us now . good morning. they for us now. good morning. they are really shocking stories have this on the streets of london. what's the latest ? yes. it's what's the latest? yes. it's been described as a senseless act of violence by the metropolitan police here on saturday, around 130, shotgun was fired around 300 people were here for a memorial for sara sanchez, a 20 year old who died from leukaemia , and her mother, from leukaemia, and her mother, who also died in this same month . so over the last few days , . so over the last few days, people who live in this
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community have been coming to terms with what happened, where we are as euston . euston areas we are as euston. euston areas just behind me on my left is euston station, one of the busiest stations in, london. and there's also a school and residential homes in this area as . well, in terms of injuries as. well, in terms of injuries as. well, in terms of injuries as you mentioned, there were four women who were injured and at the moment, a 40 year old woman , a sustained potentially woman, a sustained potentially life changing injuries. and of course, two young children as well, a 12 year old girl who sustained a leg injury. she was treated at her hospital before being discharged yesterday afternoon. she's to make a full recovery . but of course, the recovery. but of course, the force say there a seven year old girl who remains stable but has life threatening condition . and life threatening condition. and as you mentioned as well, the metropole , it's confirmed in the metropole, it's confirmed in the early hours of this morning and a 22 year old man was arrested yesterday afternoon just before 4 pm. in barnet. he in london. and he is currently in custody and he's been arrested on
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suspicion of attempted murder and in connection with the shooting here in the houston area . now, in terms of responses area. now, in terms of responses from those in leadership, the mayor of london , khan, has mayor of london, khan, has described the as deeply distressing and the home secretary suella braverman wrote on her twitter that she deeply concerned by the shocking shooting in terms of the metropole police themselves the moment they are appealing to anyone who heard or saw anything to contact them urgently. okay thank you. theo chikomba that on the streets in euston . now, the streets in euston. now, don't forget forget to vote in our twitter this morning. i'm asking , do our twitter this morning. i'm asking, do you support the teachers taking strike action ? teachers taking strike action? cast your vote now . as always, cast your vote now. as always, you can send me an email. also gbviews@gbnews.uk or me at gb news. have an ireport. gbviews@gbnews.uk or me at gb news. have an ireport . children news. have an ireport. children suffered enough . now off the suffered enough. now off the break x sas trooper phil campion and author nicole will be here to give us their take on the government cracking down on
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very good morning. welcome back to about tennis today on tv, news, tv, radio and online guide. i'm really pleased to say this . guide. i'm really pleased to say this. morning, guide. i'm really pleased to say this . morning, amy. guide. i'm really pleased to say this. morning, amy. nicole is here right to a broadcaster regular to the show. i think you're still a bit higher than mine, might as go mine, amy we might as well go very don't want to very tall. we don't want to quickly change our stools on camera, but we go also camera, but we go and also exercise troops, security expert, new guest on bev turner today phil campion. great to see you. phil thank you for coming in. thanks for having. and also, you get any staffer hugs you gave the best hug. i think of any guest i've ever had. that's any guest i've ever had. that's a proper hug a phil campaign hug. right. let's start the government's new plans to widen police disruptive police powers for disruptive predator just been predator. we've just been talking you heard me
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talking about that. you heard me talking about that. you heard me talking peter tatchell. amy talking to peter tatchell. amy nicholl, that nicholl, is this change that needs of the powers needs to be made of the powers already i think the already there? i think the powers already that i don't think always used very efficiently, but i think that's more a subject about police training , a more a subject about police training, a number of more a subject about police training , a number of police. training, a number of police. but i think this is just demonstrates politicians caring more about than people that's what is for me right. did you mean by that explain that . so mean by that explain that. so i think never underestimate the power and importance , protest power and importance, protest and. i was looking at some of the examples where has been so important, such as price id. yeah. and with this new legislation and at the times they say somebody was very homophobic, could have said that they had serious unease so that they had serious unease so that the protest couldn't go ahead . the protest couldn't go ahead. that's one of these conditions. i the thing it is i think the thing about it is it's very, very subject it's all very, very subject active. so it's all about how it's making feel and it it's making people feel and it just restricts open just restricts and it's too open to interpretation for me. and i think it will be wilfully misused by the government who will crack down on protests that needed to go ahead any i mean,
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it will be careful . it will it will be careful. it will clamp down phil campion on any protest wants to make and before it's become we need this in a democracy don't we the rights we need the right to protest but we also need the right to protect our communities. okay. and if can't get to hospital because there's a protest going on what needs be written is needs to be written there is a common sense bill and it needs to be fed trying to study at the commons missing bed in the training and for the police so they fully understand that what their demands on and it's going slow and it's not disrupting people let go . but the people will let it go. but the minute turns into something minute it turns into something that then you that disrupts people, then you should stepping and then you should be stepping and then you should be stepping and then you should saying, right, break should be saying, right, break this one up, let's get aside and all sort stuff. because all that sort of stuff. because at moment it looks me at the moment it looks to me like, somebody marches like, you know, somebody marches at ad hoc, very last at them very ad hoc, very last minute. this don't deliver, at least stuff. so with least disrupt stuff. so with marches in particular, there is a way of going around them you can approach to for reasons i'm
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planning this, i to protest planning this, i want to protest let's properly. yeah okay. let's do it properly. yeah okay. but where you feel there is a need to run onto the streets and like the police need to like i say the police need to have of common sense have some sort of common sense check themselves. but check with themselves. but i guess this bill is passed, if guess if this bill is passed, if the is passed in this the order bill is passed in this in this state that going to the police and saying , in this state that going to the police and saying, i'm going to run a protest on saturday in support of military, ex—military personnel being given that the support that they need. right. yeah and the police can say it's going to be disruptive. well, probably. well, then you can't do it. and i and that's okay then if you are to deliberately go now to be disruptive then you should be stopped. if i was going be deliberately disruptive, that's not whole point demonstration, the point of the demonstration, the demonstrations point is to get your you don't your point across. you don't have to do that in a disruptive way. think of most way. i think of the most memorable have always way. i think of the most memithe le have always way. i think of the most memithe more have always way. i think of the most memithe more disruptivealways way. i think of the most memithe more disruptive ,ways been the more disruptive, because always you just don't get the attention. and you get the attention. and when you talk idea that the talk about the idea that the ambulances can't get to the business hinges on a disruptive disruptive as like to get my
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point across well it's the law the police aren't allowed to bnng the police aren't allowed to bring them on to be on the bring them on just to be on the ambulance is going to start going to say people i like but that's fine that's all right. it can i mean. no, it's not. well, there come a point there needs to come a point where actually do about where people actually do about what's been done if it's disrupt go the people are go home and the people are already well within their powers to make arrests , which is why to make arrests, which is why most of the just oil field wasn't raised in. i think the police in particular feel that they don't know there's too much of a grey area and therefore know i was listening to mark riley, the commissioner of the met police, being interviewed about morning, and he about this this morning, and he know protest know whether protest whether a walking protest could be stopped by the by that by the police at this time or whether they had to be sat down because that was one of things just spoilt. it of the things just spoilt. it wasn't it? in order to circumnavigate the law rather than on the middle of than sitting on the middle of the just very the road, they just walked very slowly they argued that slowly and they argued that that meant therefore meant couldn't therefore be arrested early this arrested. even mark early this morning he wasn't
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morning was saying he wasn't sure if that was the case or not. he doesn't know i was on not. if he doesn't know i was on the phone in fact it should not be how fast the processions go in of this stood or doing in all of this stood or doing cartwheels the road. one cartwheels down the road. no one care. any across the care. so you get any across the many on other people who many impacts on other people who are go about their are trying to go about their daily business. then you have have a check. is it harmful those people going about their business? to business? and if it is asked to be you can't stop be stopped, you can't stop people hospital you people to hospital because you want to get your point across. the goals of these the goals of most of these protest in the protest are to make sure in the long run there less disruption to people's lives. in the short term, can't argue with term, you can't argue with someone back an someone in the back of an ambulance. you can't get there of in a while. of argue that in a short while. you can there's a situation you can if there's a situation where ambulances getting where ambulances aren't getting there at the there on non strike days at the moment country is moment our country is malfunctioning anyway we malfunctioning so anyway we don't know they can't get to where they to be because of where they need to be because of a protest to that protest and these however know these move in however you know that i did try that the first point i did try and make was issue of police and make was the issue of police training i think you've training and i think you've really that that really demonstrate that that is a wiley not a problem. there wiley not knowing exactly if the police aren't sure what powers they do
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and don't have the time. i don't think we need more legislation . think we need more legislation. we just need more police trained need. police . we need. we need more police. we need. we need more police. we need empowered to need more police empowered to move a problem safe move on. if it's a problem safe alley and without any kind of violence. although i have to say from the recruitment sometimes. well, just up by police, it's police are in a position where can say you do get the correct training and we can make the differences. that's going to help the recruitment well wasn't it. yeah, well the moment it. yeah, well at the moment i'll tell the policeman the i'll tell the policeman at the moment well moment because i go well i thought doing it. i'll thought about doing it. i'll say, you know, say, policeman, you know, they're doing something that you really there is really can't have there is emboldening so we emboldening the police. so we see what we saw at the see more of what we saw at the sarah everard, which total sarah everard, which was total police those police chaos. those women shouldn't like shouldn't have been treated like that. protesting that. they were protesting peacefully . and i think the peacefully. and i think the legislation come or being legislation that's come or being talked going we're talked about is going to we're going more of what going to see more of what happened the vigil. and happened at the vigil. and that's right let's that's the. okay. right let's move on, guys. so to block scottish transgender bail using constitutional nuclear option this been kind of sort of
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bubbung this been kind of sort of bubbling for a week or so but i think we're only just sort of getting our heads around what this would rishi sunak might try news for the very first time. westminster's power block westminster's power to block a law that was passed by the scottish parliament relation scottish parliament in relation to gender self—identification . to gender self—identification. what's he doing? and think this is really interesting because the whole idea of legal id for people was actually introduced theresa may in 2017. she thought it would be her gay marriage and would be a total vote winner . would be a total vote winner. it's become very clear that it's a vote loser and it doesn't have any public support. i think that's probably because it's generally very and it's conflated with the 2010 equalities act about changing spaces, women's only spaces . spaces, women's only spaces. it's nothing to do with that. it's nothing to do with that. it's about birth certificates and death certificates , which is and death certificates, which is about getting married dignity about getting married in dignity , dying dignity. that's all , dying in dignity. that's all this about. that's why when this is about. that's why when theresa may's government looked into it , it theresa may's government looked into it, it was theresa may's government looked into it , it was really, really into it, it was really, really obvious obvious thing to do . and obvious obvious thing to do. and it's actually a very obvious
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thing that should be done in the uk and rishi blocking uk. and i think rishi blocking it is to appeal the public and oppose nicholas sturgeon, which is just their absolute raison d'etre isn't it? yeah, it is. what do you phil, i mean, the transgender aside, this is it's a touchy subject. the moment actually is probably way above my pay actually is probably way above my pay grade, to be honest. right. okay but look, there's a political thing going on there. there sturgeon appears to sort like found a little thing can broad a lot of things she can poke up a hornet's nest and poke stir up a hornet's nest and if that did through okay she's then got called to say well actually did and we actually you did that and we want get to and now we want to get to them and now we can this and now she's can do this and now she's getting foothold into getting a foothold into into politics this side of the border. and that side of the border. and that side of the border. and that side of the border. and can't be border. and that can't be allowed happen. they want to allowed to happen. they want to continue this side. yeah continue on this side. do. yeah we glimpse into that we got a glimpse into that dynamic and dynamic between westminster and sturgeon hancock sturgeon and that matt hancock autobiography that he brought out when confessed out recently when he confessed they whether they were considering whether we're drop mask we're going to drop mask mandates schools for kids, mandates in schools for kids, nicholas sturgeon said. actually, to carry. actually, we're going to carry. and decision made
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and then the decision was made pure only a reaction. what pure only as a reaction. what nicholas sturgeon was doing to stick masks stick our kids back in masks in schools . that's to be schools. so that's got to be playing a part in this, hasn't it, amy that what we don't understand , we are never clear understand, we are never clear about of what there is not enough sufficiently transparency about for the public is what's going english going on between. the english government, british government and sturgeon yeah, it's and nicholas sturgeon yeah, it's constantly like this little cold war, isn't it ? constantly like this little cold war, isn't it? but i think has the indyref random 2014. so much has changed since . and the main has changed since. and the main thing that's changed is brexit scotland didn't want leave the eu so i don't think it that they're pushing for another independence referendum because so ideologically opposed at so many aspects of the way i think and actually you're kind of right to say that this is about transgender issues but in a way it's not really about transgender at all. i mean , on transgender at all. i mean, on britain side , not on scotland britain side, not on scotland side , done what's right and what side, done what's right and what they've looked at in parliament
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than public opinion . let's play than public opinion. let's play politics. i think if anything, scotland hasn't played politics. are you okay with 16 year olds being able to self identify and change their birth certificate after only three months living? it it? yeah, it it sounds, doesn't it? yeah, it does. it sounds, doesn't it? yeah, it does . but every it sounds, doesn't it? yeah, it does. but every single bit of research into this said gender affirming therapy from as early as possible is the best way to deal with transgender kids . it's deal with transgender kids. it's so hard to understand, and i think that's why it come across and sounds so wacky and but that is what that's what scotland's founded happens in so this self idea it's not a new it's successfully rolled out in ireland and you can to do it for scotland you can you can only do it and you can't ahead but you can already do it in scotland. it's just that they're going to change that you can do it change it so that you can do it younger. it's literally what says on your certificate says on your birth certificate and and without it nothing and your and without it nothing to do with any medication, any health care it's just what it says, okay, all right thank you
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felt i make more in just a moment. now, thousands of teachers, england and wales, could be set to walk off the job as the national education union prepares announce the results of a 5:00. this a strike ballots at 5:00. this comes are striking comes as teachers are striking for 16 days in scotland. we're going to be looking at the impact this will have on kids. that's after your news that's after your morning news with . tamsin thanks very much. with. tamsin thanks very much. good morning from the gb newsroom at 1033 police in and wales could be given powers to intervene in protests before they become too disruptive . they become too disruptive. parliament will debate an amendment to the public order bill allowing police shut down demonstrations before they cause disruption . human rights group disruption. human rights group liberty say the plan amounted to an attack on the right to protest . but the policing protest. but the policing minister chris philp says when it impacts people's lives the police have a right to intervene . of course we, as a government,
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you know , fully respect the you know, fully respect the right to . but that does need to right to. but that does need to be properly balanced the right of the general public to go their day to day lives. and where some of these protesters have been deliberately trying to ruin lives of their fellow citizens, we think that is not acceptable. it's possible to protest while at the same time allowing citizens to go about their daily lives. allowing citizens to go about their daily lives . a 22 year old their daily lives. a 22 year old man has been arrested. suspicion of attempted murder following a drive by shooting at a church in central london on saturday. a seven year old girl has been left in a life threatening condition . shots were fired from condition. shots were fired from a car . it's condition. shots were fired from a car. it's entirely wishes church in euston for other women and a 12 year old girl were also injured in the attack . thousands injured in the attack. thousands of teachers in england and wales could go on strike overpay as a result of a ballot be announced later today. elsewhere where nurses are walking out on wednesday , thursday, this week, wednesday, thursday, this week, members of the royal college of nursing have warned the next
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walkout, could include all eligible members in england if no progress is made in negotiations . it comes as the negotiations. it comes as the government calls pay demands unaffordable unaffordable . tv unaffordable unaffordable. tv onune unaffordable unaffordable. tv online and dab plus radio. this is gb news news.
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good morning. it's 1037. good morning. it's1037. this is beth tenants on gb news. right. you've been getting in. thank you. remember gb views . you. remember gb views. gbnews.uk is the email on the police protest powers. jeff says this supposed to be a democratic country and on and a non—party one time and on a non—party one time only vote. we voted to leave the eu and all the bureaucracy that this involved .
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bureaucracy that this involved. chris, this said, i believe there should certainly be a law to say the protesters cannot block roads or vandalise . but block roads or vandalise. but i'm sure this law exists so there's no need to give police additional powers . i kind of additional powers. i kind of agree with you, chris. and on teachers striking , sylvia has teachers striking, sylvia has said teachers seem to forget they only work nine months a year 12 weeks holiday and on full pay. not a bad job if you ask me let me know what you think . keep those ask me let me know what you think. keep those e—mails coming in, gb views at gbnews.uk. most teachers are working so they wouldn't have seen that message. exactly the kind of sentiment that wins teachers up and they always say we do much more work when not in classroom. when we're not in the classroom. then what then you realise of what schoolchildren scotland will schoolchildren in scotland will miss. more lessons this week as teachers plant 16 days of rolling action the rolling strike action in the continuing dispute over pay. it comes the uk's largest comes as the uk's largest teaching union organised a ballot. a 300,000 members calling for fully funded above calling for a fully funded above inflation pay rise. and we're expecting the results of that ballot today at 5:00. the
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national education union will have to give two weeks notice of any industrial. have to give two weeks notice of any industrial . so joining me any industrial. so joining me now is conservative peer and education commentator laura lucas. good morning . good lucas. good morning. good morning, lord. looking morning. lovely to see you . where do you lovely to see you. where do you stand on striking? all kids been through so much in the last couple of years, haven't they ? couple of years, haven't they? well, haven't they just and yes . like to see teachers paid a bit more since the 2010 senior teachers in real terms are down about 6, whereas the rest of us up up 2. so, yes that needs to be something done. i think it's really disruptive to do it. first strikes. it hurts the children so much and we don't need that now. and it also devalues teachers in the eyes of the public and particularly parents. you want a relationship , your teachers where you know that you're both caring for your children really that's that's everybody's primary concern . i
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everybody's primary concern. i don't think strike works with that i think there have to be other routes. what might those be then? because of course, would be teachers watching this and teachers union representatives say we don't we don't have any choice. they aren't listening to us. we have to make our feelings known. i think get parents on your side. you've got a huge proportion of the uk population who are sending children to your to your schools organised around that work with your parents school funding is going up. work with your parents school funding is going up . there is funding is going up. there is a proper school pay review system . political pressure ought to work overtime . it hasn't in the work overtime. it hasn't in the past. i'm i apologise for being a conservative and a supporter of government has done that. i would like to see pay go go back up but i just think doing it by strikes loses support it puts it . it destroys the relationship that ought to be there between
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parents and teachers . schools parents and teachers. schools when is there a social contagion about strikes at the moment . do about strikes at the moment. do you think we've got, you know, the teachers be looking at the paramedics , the nurses at the paramedics, the nurses at the train drivers and they and they are etc. and they'll be saying , are etc. and they'll be saying, we think they're going to do it then. then shouldn't we? is that what's going on here? maybe to some extent. the end of you was always being a strike in first union. i think it's in their blood of it. so no , i mean, i blood of it. so no, i mean, i think this nurse nurses you meet once in a lifetime, you're if you're lucky , teachers are with you're lucky, teachers are with you're lucky, teachers are with you for four, ten, 20 years of your life as a parent and then having been there as fuel and similar distance for your life as a child it's it should be a very different. yeah our viewers have been getting in touch on this and ian has it seems so predictable a are largely left
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wing have been radicalised at teacher training college it's politically motivated action to bnng politically motivated action to bring down the government disgraceful. do you agree there's an element of that in it there's an element of that in it the new has not been an easy union to get on with either for conservative all labour governments , it's the other governments, it's the other teaching unions tend to be much more centred and rational. so i don't. i shrug my when the eu does something it's not a concerted active part of the education system. no if this ballot goes ahead or if the strikes are given the, go ahead at 5:00 today after this ballot, what would you expect the government to do in response ? i government to do in response? i hope we can focus on what the likes results of the teacher pay review in the summer of this year are and it's comes against
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the of decent funding for schools i think a commitment to go a long with the pay review recommend next year that it should take can take full account of the inflation over the period that review looks like looks at. i think that's the proper way of things good structures that produce good results and pushing over time to get back to where we were in 2010 and it ought to be a deliverable commitment it clearly isn't something that can be in the middle of a financial crisis this year. absolutely. okay. thank lord briefly, because at the i mean, the department of education say that they've already met the union's request with a furthe r £2 request with a further £2 billion for schools for year and in the autumn statement they're rewarded teachers with the highest pay award in 30 years. it's just just extraordinary and it's just just extraordinary and i think it is these strikes don't just affect the children they really affect the parents
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because have to go to work and so just becomes a spiral that we do not need as lord lucas. so we do not need as lord lucas. so we do need whilst got an do not need whilst got an economic hang the end of it on the edge of an economic it feels at the moment doesn't right. at the moment doesn't it. right. i'm try and keep things i'm going to try and keep things cheerful. is it. cheerful. it's not easy is it. but today the most depressing day according day of the according to calculations by former cardiff university psychologist cliff arnall. otherwise known as arnall. it's otherwise known as blue monday, however , charity blue monday, however, charity samaritans is renaming today bru monday, which think is brilliant, encouraging everyone to reach out over a cup , tea to to reach out over a cup, tea to loved ones and have a natter. well, our reporter will hollis is at lincoln railway station this morning. is at lincoln railway station this morning . samaritans who are this morning. samaritans who are talking to commuters on their way to work. good morning, will. what have you been hearing down there ? good morning. yes, from there? good morning. yes, from here in lincoln, you might be let's call it monday because it's so cold. but in no way am i feeling depressed today. that's because gary from samaritans has been keeping me company,
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cheering me up and talking to me a little about why him and his teams the country are at teams across the country are at train stations like this one. gary from lincoln samaritans. obviously blue monday . what obviously blue monday. what people know it as are people will know it as are calling it every monday. today why are we changing from what's become a bit of a tradition? blue monday in the last 15 years. yeah well let's a positive spin on this. you know what we at samaritans to do is change from people feeling change it from people feeling down saying let's do down to saying let's do something different to let's be different let's interact with people in our families , our people in our families, our friends with our colleagues at work and have a chat to find out what's going on in their life. it might make a difference. you're talking to people at the train stations like this one. people today the way people talking today on the way to and in and out of the to work and in and out of the train station. we've here train station. we've been here since half six this morning when it was cold, it was dark. but people stopped and had a discussion with us and we were giving them out tea bags and coffee bags and just encouraging them that when they get into work or when they get home to
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the family just to stop and have a breather and have discussion a breather and have a discussion with the family and finding out how do the person say, been how do you, the person say, been the of blue monday is it's the idea of blue monday is it's supposed to be the most depressing day of the year. and while and many scientists would say that it's a load of rubbish it's pseudo is called it's pseudo science it is called it's pseudo science it is called it is after christmas and we've got cost of living crisis samaritans experienced in that on the calls that you might be getting you know well the evidence is thin a blue each evidence is thin for a blue each at the moment for a lot of people , difficult to make. no people, difficult to make. no mistake about that. it's a difficult time for people. but what we're trying to do is just help through long and just say, if you need to talk, come talk to us or talk someone who you trust . and then if people don't trust. and then if people don't have anybody that, they trust. we know that loneliness is a bit of a problem for not older people who you might traditionally lonely. traditionally think is lonely. but of young people as but for a lot of young people as well, if they don't have friends , they're not looking , family and they're not looking to pursue today, how can they
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get in touch with samaritans or , other similar groups, you know, loneliness really can be a problem but what we would say is us it's as easy as and there are three ways that you can do it. you can write to us and the address is freepost similar letters that's always three words on the envelope . freepost words on the envelope. freepost samaritans . or you words on the envelope. freepost samaritans. or you can email us. and that's jo at samarra essence .org. that's jo samaritans.org or . the majority of people like or. the majority of people like to bring us the telephone number is 116123. when bring us you have our attention and we won't judge we certainly won't give advice . we will listen to what advice. we will listen to what the issues are and certainly try and help find some resolution to what's going on for you. gary, thank you for talking to us today. i know the train stations have had a lot of trouble recently because of the strikes and maybe people have been having difficulties train stations for reasons with
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samaritans here. they've certainly been looking after us, offering as tea and looking after a lot of people who we're just trying to get their just trying to get about their day as well. thank you, will. thank you, will. hollis hollister, what is hollister, you know what it is the little in life isn't the little things in life isn't it keep your spirits up it that keep your spirits up getting fresh air even getting a bit of fresh air even if it's terrible weather like today no such thing bad today no such thing as bad weather is what weather just the wrong is what i always tell my kids when dragging them out for walk. dragging them out for a walk. i don't want to go. right. let me introduce panel to this introduce my panel to this morning. delighted be morning. i'm delighted to be joined studio amy joined the studio by amy tickell, writer and essayist, trouper expert phil trouper and security expert phil campion writes guys. let's campion of writes guys. let's talk about prince harry i know it ridiculous. i didn't think we were going to be doing this, but it is still the front page of the sun. it's still in all the papers. obviously various different angles broke over the weekend, which was weekend, one of which fell was that charles going to that prince charles is going to stick in the sand stick his head in the sand effectively at a private dinner party. apparently, they're not going i was going to respond. but i was interested talk about interested to talk to you about fact that harry gave away this of many taliban he had of how many taliban he had killed . that's pretty unusual.
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killed. that's pretty unusual. yeah, i thought i think harry has got some serious complex ptsd issues going on there. i really do. i think this seriously with him to the point that he needs a body checked properly. i think someone needs to go with him and say you're coming, son, because we're going to harsh things, you know? to write harsh things, you know? i think that's i mean, i don't think that's going be his mrs. at the going to be his mrs. at the present stage. it could have his brother then upset him so much, but of mates that but think one of his mates that he served at least reach he served should at least reach out him. as look mate, out to him. as i look mate, let's have it. let's have a proper conversation. this because of because dumping that sort of stuff the press is stuff into into the press is just it's not talked about. he knows people that he was in an apache gunner and all apache and he was gunner and all that stuff. so that sort of stuff. so the assumption be that if assumption going to be that if you in combat, then things you stay in combat, then things have happened, but those things stay do not i mean, stay out there. do not i mean, i'm not adverse to people clearing health war, clearing the mental health war, talking about talking to people about those sorts things, even sorts of things, even even saying numbers know if you could confide somebody very often confide in somebody very often it have those it helps to have those conversations so but conversations and rightly so but those conversations have with those conversations i have with you, doctor you, with you with your doctor with with someone
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with a loved one, with someone you with with with you served with with with someone who's not then subsequently go, yeah, subsequently going to go, yeah, look how many people you just don't do that. well, a parent. leigh, was leigh, amy, the book was originally 800 and he originally 800 page and he edhed originally 800 page and he edited out 400 to save his family blushes the mind boggles as to what he didn't put in there. yeah it but i think on there. yeah it but i think on the subject of what went on when he was stepping i mean the story about the taliban compound in about the taliban compound in about 15 and then everybody talked about it then and i think we've kind of forgotten that and we've kind of forgotten that and we talk about pop conversations. i think to defend harry, is this not a proper conversation kind of getting awareness other people might have same experiences that he's and they didn't feel they could talk about it and maybe this is from the people that talked about this book anyway mean he didn't have to put that figure. he didn't have to say that in particular, wasn't a particular, that wasn't a conversation needed air and publicly what was
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publicly and that's what was about you know yeah the has generated some deep discussion and with mental health and it helps with mental health and it helps with mental health and for but if it does and i'm for it but if it does turn that harry didn't have all these and that he's doing this for the money, he's a proper roland. yeah, proper roland. yeah, the proper role. no, necessary , no, that's not necessary, really. even up for debate is it. i mean, i have no reason to not everything says, it's not everything harry says, it's just he's not. that's just whether he's not. that's the reason that he said he should have said it in that much detail. but i don't think the actual is that. question actual truth is that. question no, the no, i'm not questioning the truth. questioning as why no, i'm not questioning the tru had questioning as why no, i'm not questioning the tru had to questioning as why no, i'm not questioning the tru had to saystioning as why no, i'm not questioning the tru had to say thating as why no, i'm not questioning the tru had to say that most. why no, i'm not questioning the tru had to say that most i why no, i'm not questioning the tru had to say that most i mean, he had to say that most i mean, there's doubt that they both there's no doubt that they both dnven there's no doubt that they both driven by the money. it's really curious, though, it that today we've got new information courtesy of a leak . it's kind of courtesy of a leak. it's kind of proving harry's point that stories are all coming out from . who knows where and meghan is keeping very quiet isn't . she we keeping very quiet isn't. she we haven't heard from her, has this likely changed your opinion , the likely changed your opinion, the dynamic the relationship? dynamic of the relationship? because she's often of because she's often accused of being, know ? it's really being, you know? it's really sexist. stereotype. so he's sexist. it's stereotype. so he's a passenger in his own life and she's there cracking the whip
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and making him there's no doubt she's she's exerted an extreme influence . there no influence over him. there is no doubt about that. and she's kind of him to the fact that of woken him up to the fact that he spare, know, he was the spare, you know, someone thinking , how someone almost she thinking, how does feel, knowing that you does it feel, knowing that you were always less important than your like god were always less important than your oh like god were always less important than your oh yeah. like god were always less important than your oh yeah. and, ke god were always less important than your oh yeah. and, you god were always less important than your oh yeah. and, you know, was, oh yeah. and, you know, she's played a role but watching him there in these interviews on his own he's out, he's the architect his destiny . architect of his own destiny. yeah. think she's set the yeah. i think she's set the timeline from when they met his behaviour and what he certainly has changed. he's a lot more open but . i has changed. he's a lot more open but. i think that with this whole book mean obviously the money played a factor but i also get the feeling that he really sick of his narrative by the press and he sees this book as his opportunity to just address history , to create a definitive history, to create a definitive i'm not sure this will be i mean, i'll tell you why i write. when he first went off with meghan why he was going to build a new life for himself in america, and he wanted the pubuc america, and he wanted the public like privacy. that's
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fine. don't that. i can fine. you don't do that. i can understand that. well your mother sort of mother and all that sort of stuff, i get that. but so stuff, i fully get that. but so then don't write netflix book, right? there's the oprah winfrey. one is keeping that winfrey. no one is keeping that possible. no i think the privacy thing talk about the privacy thing you talk about the privacy 18, what challenges do you charles he's going i'm not going to talk about about that. but he is talking is this all the is talking about is this all the people but people talking? yeah, but where's dinner table? that's where's the dinner table? that's not think this what not charles. i think this what happens you have this weird happens when you have this weird media obligation to the media from birth, all of them have , from birth, all of them have, this strange relationship that they to fulfil press is they have to fulfil press is wishes some form , whether it wishes in some form, whether it be a authorised biography be by a authorised biography like harry, whether it be through other stories they to remain in the media and the press and such integral part press and such an integral part of survival of royal of the survival of the royal family. curious and family. that's curious and that's a bit strange, i guess. yeah that's what it's kind of made realise as is that made me realise as well. is that is relationship that kind is that relationship that kind of a symbiotic relationship that they depend on each other? the media depends on royals. the royals depend on the media. but
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it is like a dysfunctional marriage, isn't it? yes, both of them both of that have them are both sides of that have . it comes with consequences it's a horrible consequence. horror kind of toxic relationship . but it is relationship. but it is inevitable the survival of the royal family. i think what. do you think it's done any damage to the royal family in terms of the fact that some the stuff he said probably has damaged them a little bit secure? it could be argued that, you know, that it's that it's been heightened a little they're going little bit. they're always going to that's to need security. so that's never change, is it never going to change, is it okay. i think been okay. what i think we've been number in line to the throne. he was perfectly all had his right to away if he wanted to. to step away if he wanted to. okay, with other okay, i'll get with other royals. i do have to have royals. but i do have to have a love hate relationship, the press, i got get press, because i have got to get this stuff there. i've got this stuff out there. i've got to remain with what they're doing. and are so lot doing. and they are so lot pinheads nation and you pinheads for nation and you can't pillar a nation can't be a pillar of a nation without in the press. so without going in the press. so you going want to you are going to want to manipulate a certain state manipulate to a certain state what. they say about you, everybody does want to have everybody does want you to have a people writing rubbish a lot of people writing rubbish about that goes
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about me. all right. that goes without harry's for without saying. harry's for me is i'm coming back to is where i'm coming back to because he didn't want because he's said he didn't want that the don't that anymore. the family don't necessarily him out necessarily need him carry out pubuc necessarily need him carry out public because they were public duties because they were going it out, let him going to lay it all out, let him step anyway. so if you step down anyway. so if you didn't out way the then didn't get out the way the then subsequently got netflix and subsequently got to netflix and start writing but what he what he was nonconsensual he didn't want was nonconsensual relationship with the media and the he wants to have the paparazzi he wants to have a pubuc the paparazzi he wants to have a public platform but that can be so naive know what getting on it. yeah maybe it should be that maybe we need to look at the way paparazzi operate right guys . we paparazzi operate right guys. we come to the end of our first houn come to the end of our first hour. we're going preview the world economic forum's annual meeting in davos next week liam halligan. i'll be right back with short break. hello, with after a short break. hello, i'm aidan mcgivern and. here's the latest forecast from the met office it's turned colder and it's certainly to feel that way today. there will some showers and showers places will and those showers in places will be as snow. but also be falling as snow. but also some sunshine as this pulls away, we pull in this clean but cold northerly wind, this low
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brought some rain and, some hill snow to the southeast earlier on. but it is moving away. wintry showers into eastern mainly. these are rain and hail that's at lower levels, but some sleet mixed in. rain showers for the far southwest. but the brunt of the showers are affecting northern scotland. northern ireland northwest wales and elsewhere. there'll be some sunshine, but wherever you are, it is going to feel cold. six or seven in the south, 1 to 2 in the north. and that means these showers are going to be coming in as snow, a few centimetres at low levels. more significant over the hills of northern ireland and northern scotland, as much as 15 centimetres building again over the high building up again over the high parts northern scotland and parts of northern scotland and some very significant snow for shetland indeed, but wherever you are it's going to be a cold night. and with temperatures dropping of in dropping way risk of ice in places, especially west wales, southwest england , some rain southwest england, some rain showers here, northwest as well as northern ireland and northern scotland. so some slippery
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surfaces about first thing on tuesday , but also a bright tuesday, but also a bright start. so although it will be very and frosty for all of us, it's going to be a sunny one for many. and those showers will continue into the north and the west with some, again, wintry showers affecting west wales, north west england. those continue into tuesday night. northern ireland and northern scotland seeing further snow accumulations later tuesday. the risk of gales , northern scotland risk of gales, northern scotland and the very significant blizzards, especially over hills and into coasts . so some wintry and into coasts. so some wintry weather around the next few days before turns drier and eventually really milder later. this week, some days . on eventually really milder later. this week, some days. on gb newsroom 930, it's camilla tominey for a politics show with person eight. then at 11, michael portillo for topical discussion debate some ethical dilemmas and sometimes even a sense of the ridiculous. and at 1 pm. meet alistair stuart
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channel very morning welcome back to tennis day on now before midday we're going preview the world economic forum set to kick off in switzerland later today as global meet discuss the war global meet to discuss the war in ukraine and tackle recession and figures all that would liam halligan . we're also going to halligan. we're also going to discuss how feasible on net discuss just how feasible on net zero are as government zero plans are as the government off its mission zero ambition. do you agree. i'm also going to be back in studio by be doing back in the studio by my panellists x ss trooper phil campion and author amy coutts cover more of the day's stories.
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that's all coming up after. look at latest news . good at your latest news. good morning. it's 11:00. at your latest news. good morning. it's11:00. i'm tamsin roberts in the gb newsroom police . england and wales could police. england and wales could be given power to intervene in protests before they become too disruptive . parliament will disruptive. parliament will today debate amendment to the pubuc today debate amendment to the public order bill, which would allow police to shut down demonstrations before they caused disruption if passed would make it easier for police to stop demonstrators blocking roads or slow marching . human roads or slow marching. human rights group liberty says the amounted to an attack on right to protest but policing minister chris philp says one it impacts people's life . the police should people's life. the police should have a right to intervene . of have a right to intervene. of course we as a government, you know , fully respect the right know, fully respect the right protest, but that does need to be properly balanced with the right of the general public to, go about their day to day lives and where some of these
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protesters have been deliberately trying to ruin the lives of their fellow citizens. we think that is not. it's possible to protest while at the same time allowing ordinary citizens go their daily lives citizens to go their daily lives . a former aide to the chief secretary, treasury leon mirani gb news there needs to be a balance . there is a fine line balance. there is a fine line here between being, well, sensible policing and also being perhaps perhaps too heavy handed. and i no one wants to live in a police state, and that may be some of the fears that people will be having when reading this policy. we want to live in a country where the police are fair firm, but police are fair and firm, but not sort restricting people's not sort of restricting people's right protest . a 22 year old right to protest. a 22 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder following a drive by shooting at a church in central london on saturday. a seven year old girl has been left in a life threatening condition after were fired from a car at. st ali wishes church in euston . four wishes church in euston. four other women and one child were injured in the attack . thousands injured in the attack. thousands of teachers in england and wales
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could go on strike over pay as a result of a ballot will be announced later today . announced later today. elsewhere, nurses are walking out on wednesday and thursday this week. members of the royal of nursing have warned the next walkout could include all eligible members in england if. no progress is made in negotiations . meanwhile, gmb negotiations. meanwhile, gmb leaders will meet today to decide to call more strikes. among ambulance members. it comes , as the government calls, comes, as the government calls, pay comes, as the government calls, pay demands unaffordable . pay demands unaffordable. meanwhile, in scotland, teachers beginning their 16 days of rolling strike action in an ongoing dispute overpay schools in glasgow and east lothian will be opened for pupils taking the preliminary exams. it comes after the scottish government offered a 5% pay offer on thursday . but offered a 5% pay offer on thursday. but union members . 10. thursday. but union members. 10. meanwhile, employees will debate new anti strike legislation today. that would require minimum levels during industrial
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action. if passed some health fire education, transport and border security staff could be forced to work during strikes or sacked if they don't. the tuc described the law as spiteful and said it would give ministers sweeping powers that restrict the right to strike. labour says it will oppose the bill and any attempt to fast it through parliament. people across northern ireland will begin receiving a £600 energy payment from today . this includes a four from today. this includes a four payment as part of the uk's support scheme an d £200 as part support scheme and £200 as part of the country's dependence on heating oil. residents in the rest of the uk receive their payments last year with delay in northern ireland being blamed on the political issues at storm and the black box and a cockpit voice recorder have been recovered from a plane which crashed in nepal killing at least 68 people. local has set up a panel to invest to get the
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cause of the crash after the plane carrying 72 people from the capital kathmandu went down. it's nepal's worst plane crash in 30 years. italy most wanted. mafia has been arrested in sicily after 30 years on the run . mateo messina gennaro, who was detained in palermo , is alleged detained in palermo, is alleged to be a boss of the sicilian mafia. he's been sentenced to a life term for his role in the 1992 murders of two anti—mafia prosecutors , as well as facing prosecutors, as well as facing life . his role prosecutors, as well as facing life. his role in bomb prosecutors, as well as facing life . his role in bomb attacks life. his role in bomb attacks in florence rome and milan, which killed ten people the following year. marks and spencer has announced plans to open 20 new shops across the uk. the store overhaul is said to create over thousand jobs. the company also plans to open eight full line stores in shopping across the uk and, 12 new food
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halls including and barnsley and stockport . this is gb news will stockport. this is gb news will bnng stockport. this is gb news will bring you more news as it happens of course now though it's back to beth . it's back to beth. very good morning this is gb news welcome back to bev turner today? now what's coming up on the show this morning? i've got liam halligan here in just a moment. three big economic stories , the launch of the world stories, the launch of the world economic forum in davos, but also good news about marks and spencers . house prices . and spencers. house prices. and isn't it a zero, a total scam? experts say that the price of reaching net zero will cost households at least double the amount estimates it and the government with you. so why then are they pushing ahead with ? its
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are they pushing ahead with? its ambitions will weigh the pros and cons the zero strategy and cons, the net zero strategy and cons, the net zero strategy and means for the pound and what it means for the pound in your pocket. my panellists ex essayist phil campion and author amy tickle will be back here to cover more of the day's news stories . and of course this show stories. and of course this show is much improved by your views. don't forget , we've got the don't forget, we've got the twitter poll going this morning. i'm asking are you in i'm asking you, are you in support teachers taking support of teachers taking strike ? at the moment, strike action? at the moment, 80% of you do not support the teachers striking. keep your votes and tweet me at to . gb votes and tweet me at to. gb news have your say . so. the news have your say. so. the world economic forum kicks off in davos today in switzerland amid fears of a global recession. business leaders from across the world will meet to discuss war in ukraine, economic instability, climate change, amongst others . meanwhile, oxfam amongst others. meanwhile, oxfam are pushing for a windfall tax on food companies to fight inequality as inflation grows. liam halligan is with me now.
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hello, liam. hello. do you think should be worried about davos and what they doing. a lot of what have kind suspicion and rumours and speculation spins around the world economic forum and the extent to which they influence government policy . do influence government policy. do you think that's founded . well you think that's founded. well i don't get to davos much days i've been to various occasions in the past and. i think what gets people's hackles up, if you like, is that it's a powwow of the great and the good business and politics on an international scale. and yet there's very little. these are often closed door sessions and. the guest list is very, very exclusive . list is very, very exclusive. you do? you know, we've got to again, because i i'm an international public you you know you've got city like well you wall street giants you got goldman sachs you got jp morgan morgan stanley you got the big oil majors, chevron, bp they're all be there. a lot of political leaders . there's about two and leaders. there's about two and a half to 3000 actual delegates.
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but there ngos those, but then there are ngos those, like you say, oxfam and many others protesting on the fringe in this kind of very exclusive swiss mountain village. not so much snow there these days because there's not much snow in the alps at the moment as keen skiers . know interestingly, joe skiers. know interestingly, joe biden isn't turning up. even though trump of much of davos and rishi sunak also isn't turning out all leaders know that in this closed living squeeze , when you're turning up squeeze, when you're turning up in sort chocolate box switzerland and hobnobbing doing your own job prospect , it's no your own job prospect, it's no harm then it isn't a good look. another one, it is cooperation in a fragmented world. that is the theme, not least of russia—ukraine. there'll be lots of talk about energy bills and climate change and so on. but interestingly , representatives interestingly, representatives of many are at davos because looking for a buyer? no absolutely. oh, wow i did not know that. yeah. i mean , look, know that. yeah. i mean, look, the problem is that you , say,
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the problem is that you, say, it's about this lack of transparency and we feel like there's a lack of democracy. if there's a lack of democracy. if there are people, those rooms making huge decisions, which will want will affect our lives. we want know about and we want know about it and we want to know about it and we want to know whether actually know whether we have actually a an emasculated government, that's the word, or the muscle is over. well, i would say is there's a definite type. there's sort of davos man. and now these days, i'm guessing mainly men , days, i'm guessing mainly men, but it is mainly men. days, i'm guessing mainly men, but it is mainly men . these are but it is mainly men. these are people who have almost monochrome home view of the world. they're all into , you world. they're all into, you know, international institutions holding power as to the nation state. you don't get many brexiteers turning up at davos and. i should know you get people who are very, very , you people who are very, very, you know, live in many different countries. they make a lot of people feel be very distant from how ordinary people think and feel and their animus and yet they are very, very influenced . they are very, very influenced. so you get to kind of self
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reinforce seeing upward spiral of , a sort of reinforce seeing upward spiral of, a sort of globalist outlook rather than a more down to earth . and of course , you know, davos . and of course, you know, davos is the kind of place where billionaires go to be watched by millionaires. and you've got the millionaires. and you've got the millionaires there who are trying to ingratiate themselves getjobs trying to ingratiate themselves get jobs with the billionaires among them, take it from . it's among them, take it from. it's happening right now as we're talking. so i completely even though i've been on the guest list in the past, i'm not going be on the guest list anymore. i'm sure, after what i've said. but i do understand why an awful lot of people feel remote and ever so shady. there's journalist who has been tweeting his experiences there and. he he posted that they everybody has to do a lateral tell pcr test. i think before you go into covid, if you tell the stricter one this is true and if you don't do the test your accreditation is instantly and you're not allowed instantly and you're not allowed in and this this idea that there
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is top down control of the individual is what i think a lot of people have been very frightened of in the last couple of years. and you know, we talk about the world economic forum's for full, the planet. i would love rishi come and love rishi sunak to come and tell what what you know. tell us what what you know. awesome. journalists asked awesome. journalists never asked me influenced me a question. how influenced are you by what world are you by what the world economic forum you to do economic forum want you to do and what should look like? anyway, we could about this anyway, we could talk about this day, let's talk about day, liam, but let's talk about things closer to things little bit closer to home. house prices. is this good news bad news? well, it news or bad news? well, it depends of view. if depends your point of view. if you're you want you're a homeowner you want house up. if you're house prices to go up. if you're somebody desperately to somebody trying desperately to get the property ladder, get on the property ladder, you're your can't you're worried your kids can't get property ladder, then get on property ladder, then you'll be quite happy you'll probably be quite happy if significant if there's a pretty significant house fall. general house price fall. the general mood there's going to be mood is that there's going to be a price to some a house price fall to some degree this year. that's where all of, know, sort all the sort of, you know, sort of said. i don't of predictions said. i don't think be particularly think it will be a particularly big but interest rates are big fall, but interest rates are going up again. i don't think they've got that much further to go personally think that go up. i personally think that the and when comes
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the recession as and when comes will shallower than will be a lot shallower than many are saying. many other people are saying. i think inflation will abate quicker. now, was very early quicker. now, i was very early to coming to say inflation's coming pilloried but now i'm pilloried for it, but now i'm saying i think inflation is going to weigh quite soon and the of living ease. the cost of living squeeze ease. but right, move . even but right, move. even though house fallen a bit house prices have fallen a bit in recent months. rightmove which a property agency said which is a property agency said that on their survey prices went up in january that really surprised compared to january 2022 the average house price across uk there aren't any regional breakdown of these figures. if they were, i'd be bringing them to you. absolutely. at the front of my comments. but for now, the average price, house price across country is average price, house price across country i s £362,438 and across country is £362,438 and enormous eye—watering of money. and . that's u p £3,301 on the and. that's up £3,301 on the same in 2022. and yet because pnces same in 2022. and yet because prices kind of surged as came out of lockdown, even the house pnces out of lockdown, even the house prices are up january. there's
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still an up compared to january 2022. they're still down on october 2022 by about £8,000. so this is a slight upward . break this is a slight upward. break in. what is a downward trend over recent months, right? that's just because the lack of supply of houses in january with people being nervous about the economy. i thinking i'm just going to sit down. that's exactly right. and the fundamental of supply of fundamental lack of supply of housing in general, something i've written about amount i've written about a huge amount over the years we do have too few homes in the uk and know we have population growth. we have natural growth, we have immigration course and where there are too few homes and more people want them , then they are people want them, then they are going to . but what will happen going to. but what will happen as interest rates though mortgage demand should a little bit which keeps the lid on these house prices now we have you and i last week and we had a little chat marks and spencers and was telling you that i didn't think their clothes were good,
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although you might think that's although you might think that's a bit rich coming from you wearing today. like wearing that today. you like this bit like margo of the this is a bit like margo of the good the good life. yes jenny. well, my logic. you well, i'll chat my logic. you see yourself more of felicity candle . i'm somewhere between candle. i'm somewhere between the top and paprika i'm thinking more like some good my soul yeah, yeah you look. but we're talking about this last week they'd had a decent they'd had decent sales, they had a decent of revenue come in, not necessarily sell more stuff. yeah, great news for marks and spencer today on blue monday. what's the great news? liam well, the great news that marks and of announce and spencer of announce that they're open 20 new they're going to open 20 new stores by the end of next year and that you know, that is that is pretty good news. and that's saying and they're saying by the end of 2025, they're going to have 180 full line stores . so have 180 full line stores. so close everything across the close and everything across the uk and 420 food stores and some of these new full line stores going to be white fruit in leeds liverpool, birmingham and so, of course, that's good news marks
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and sparks, of course. so high street institution, they've been around 139 years now. they that these new store openings going to add 3400 new jobs often these retail jobs there useful little part some full time jobs with their part time jobs you know a lot of a lot of working like these kind of part time jobs. they add to the flexibility of the labour market, though. this is blue monday and i am an economist and we're dismal scientists, we? so i have scientists, aren't we? so i have to say just bit of a reality. to say just a bit of a reality. you know, canopy fall they you know, msa canopy fall they know on blue a little bit of good news for your brand we're all going to pick it up right so they are very generous journalists and i know that that's no cynical that's just understanding public . and would understanding public. and would say is in their personal it doesn't mention that in october they said that 67 stores are actually closing . is this actually closing. is this something to do though i was still thinking of. you're absolutely . i still thinking of. you're absolutely. i hate still thinking of. you're absolutely . i hate the fact that
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absolutely. i hate the fact that you've seen that before. you're so clever. liam, this is bit of a pr stunt, isn't it? a bit of good news on a bad day , but is good news on a bad day, but is it also possibly because they said they're going to rejuvenate their high presence? is their high street presence? is this we're have this because we're going to have lots properties? they lots empty properties? are they swooping think? i think swooping in, you think? i think when have been around for when you have been around for 139 years and let's say you let's be clear, manchester, an absolute retail thoroughbred. yeah the way the world retail's the likes of tesco they invented mass market retailing along with the americans they've got every right to be of their incredible reputation and indeed they are a byword for reasonably good value , aren't they? so middle mid value quality they're . one of value quality they're. one of britain's great aspirational brands and mine have also got deep pockets. so i actually think as well as , you know, think as well as, you know, a bit of media management, you know, throwing the media a coated bone on on blue monday
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that we're all going to go for it . i also think that m&s very it. i also think that m&s very shrewd people a bit like me see a of an upturn here see green shoots they see the fact that maybe this cost of living squeeze will sooner rather than later to an end. they're all still going to be some difficult months . but i still going to be some difficult months. but i don't still going to be some difficult months . but i don't accept the months. but i don't accept the bank of england's view actually, that we're going to be in recession much the whole of this yeah recession much the whole of this year. don't accept that at year. i don't accept that at all. i think that's completely a wayward rogue estimate , but lots wayward rogue estimate, but lots of people pick up on that because of course it's the bank of england, you know, saying that if positive on blue monday. no, no, saying no, i'm no, i'm saying i wouldn't want to mean reputation is too important genuinely believe there'll be an upturn sooner than the vast majority of economists think. and i think cameron are shrewdly positioning themselves as being among the first to put their money where their mouth, you know. yes. they said the closing 67 stores in october, but they're now saying
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they're opening 20 stores they're opening 20 new stores and stores yeah. sharp hey, and big stores yeah. sharp hey, great. marvellous. thank you . great. marvellous. thank you. nicely, right? great. marvellous. thank you. nicely, right ? you've been nicely, right? you've been getting in touch, remember? gb views that gbnews.uk is the email. let's have a look at a few of them on the police. new powers. the d has said pictures are shown of police , other are shown of police, other countries coming down tough on protesters . we get experts and protesters. we get experts and commentators all over media praising them. however as soon as we try to do it here, the complains and peter said did anyone government think for one second to ask the police if they need new laws. i bet they don't . there is sufficient laws now to protesters when roads are blocked, but a failed to use those powers new laws on not require it and on the teacher strikes stephen has said i believe in the right to strike but i wonder if inflation was lower before the war in ukraine would any sector be striking? well thank you very much for. all of your views. keep them coming in gb views gbnews.uk.
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don't forget to vote in. our twitter poll as well. i'm asking you, do support the teachers taking action? we're going to find about today find out about 5:00 today whether english welsh teachers will also be striking. the scottish ones already and what else we got right off the break. my panellists and phil campion and amy nicol that together we never had these two on together. it's quite, quite feisty. they're going to join me for a look at of the day's top news stories and how they would handle strikes. handle these teacher strikes. see in a minute.
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let's talk about strikes. i mean, they've been through quite a lot our kids in the last couple of years. why do you think that's why is that not in the forefront of the mind of these teachers? that is what should forefront the should be in the forefront the mind teams that they've mind these teams that they've had the covid thing is difficult children nowadays really is children nowadays it really is every i got something every angle. i got something coming that the inside these teachers your job must come first that's proficient the profession that you chose soldiers don't strike without a strike for stop but you know and i like it all here we want our 3.7 in the last ten years do not mean they get on with what they're doing primarily. yeah, that's that's their that's their job. that's what they do and i think teachers should take that yeah. it's going to impact on yeah. if it's going to impact on the students much you can't the students too much you can't do can't that. do that. you can't do that. they've they've a torrid they've they've had a torrid time. really have. they time. they really have. they were few teachers were notes for so few teachers up the pandemic and up during the pandemic and saying, know what, this saying, you know what, this is a disease which predominantly affects the very elderly. children are at a statistically zero risk. this we need to zero risk. from this we need to get them back in the classes. but they didn't do that. amy so
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disappointed that disappointed by the fact that they i think they might strike. i think teachers say that teachers would say that they have pupils the forefront have got pupils at the forefront when deciding to go on when they're deciding to go on strike the conditions strike because the conditions that in the classroom, that teachers in the classroom, in schools at the moment has become untenable. so it's not for what way? what you mean? so retention of teachers has never beenin retention of teachers has never been in a terrible state. so one in three are leaving the profession. they're completely overworked . they're overworked that under. they're not trained in some things that they should be, which comes to like mental health, social work , 0h, like mental health, social work , oh, i think , that kind of oh, i think they're upset it. could they're upset with it. you could say the job of a teacher? say isn't the job of a teacher? but i think they're obsessed with mental. it's all my kids. teachers to talk about teachers seem to have talk about sometimes them they just teachers seem to have talk about somiabout them they just teachers seem to have talk about somiabout mentalthem they just teachers seem to have talk about somiabout mental health 1ey just teachers seem to have talk about somiabout mental health all just talk about mental health all time. well i think their mental health is at risk if. they continue to have work in the continue to have to work in the conditions they are the conditions that they are at the moment. because not moment. because let's not forget, striking is always forget, the striking is always a last and they've last resort and they've been pushed if you do pushed into this. so if you do have any anger, i would leave it out. government pay out. the government and pay teachers wage teachers teachers a fair wage teachers not much so enfin and not much respect so enfin and they have one of the best
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teaching professions is to become a teacher. you have to have a master's degree that includes social, ethical and moral skills . within that, it's moral skills. within that, it's really highly paid profession and. that's why that education system is probably the best in the world because we're talking about educating our children the way educate our children and that success that we have that sets up next generation the future. it's crucial at the moment in the uk we don't give the teaching profession the respect that it deserves that i agree with i. well, let me tell you. but do you know what you who do respect teachers always. we should as parents we need them. we despot , we need them. them. we despot, we need them. we are dependent on to help our children know how, to behave how to how to think, how to go about the world i feel that doesn't need to be a disparity it does need to be a disparity it does need to be a disparity it does need to be a look at parents and that's it. that's a completely separate issue. but going back to the strike on, what, 380 sessions, you've got to live in
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a right. that's not a year, right. and that's not all. teacher, don't do all. one teacher, they don't do 400. they do the proportion of that 480 days in the year that 480 to 180 days in the year and teacher training what and teacher training days. what if to strike it, if you want to strike it, teacher training so you can have that data strike? how about that? a idea. that? oh, that's a good idea. that doesn't kids, that doesn't impact the kids, right? get your point across right? you get your point across without kids without impacting the kids who've at and who've already sat at home and lost nearly two years of an education, i want education, which i want to, because yeah, because can catch up. yeah, because can catch up. yeah, because we've more kids because we've got more kids through pipeline and through the pipeline and i get your point, other countries doing it right all the rest doing it right and all the rest of it, that's best. their of it, that's best. that's their system. not probably system. they're not probably kind kids. the kind as many kids. the recruitment process, is it? how long it take try to up long does it take to try to up to those master's degrees to get those master's degrees all we've to get if you all that we've got to get if you don't out then getting don't get them out then getting teachers well, we get teachers is, well, we can't get them back lot of teachers them back from a lot of teachers isn't in our society teachers the teaching profession doesn't come it's completely come with it's not completely respected way that's when respected in the way that's when the you do when the best jobs you can do when really should be it should be really it should be it should be the in our society . the most jobs in our society. why it treated as such ? why isn't it treated as such? well, i don't know. i don't think we have a solution to this one. teachers to be we
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one. we want teachers to be we know important are. know how important they are. there's disagree there's nobody would disagree with that, but i don't think that now the timing of that right now the timing of this strike, the kids have been through much. think it through so much. i just think it absolutely i totally agree absolutely no, i totally agree with in on this with but and in fact on this story similar to the daily story very similar to the daily mail one child goes to hospital every 20 minutes after self—harm, coming with drug or alcohol. this is what we're talking this runs on to a product. what happening product. what is happening around right now . just around the child right now. just to in perspective now, to put it in perspective now, the a lot with the army the do a lot with the army cadets the of the cadets on the champion of the organisation. i see a lot of organisation. so i see a lot of youth my time you know you youth in my time you know you watch what they're doing all of our and i learn our careers and i learn about how they work all sort of how they work and all sort of stuff. so listen, bullying stuff. okay so listen, bullying in happens now in the bedroom that happens now on bullying , bedroom on the bullying, the bedroom on the that now. the phone, that happens now. that's awful thing happen. that's an awful thing happen. i mean, my you know, you mean, in my day, you know, you have gap in between leaving have the gap in between leaving the gate and getting on into that space. well, have that space. well, you'd have to probably to do something probably come up to do something about that doesn't happen about it for that doesn't happen anymore. these kids are going home. picked on home. they're getting picked on at they're again at school they're getting again in, home social in, the bedroom home on social media people getting out of
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media and people getting out of them online where adults them behind online where adults aren't do aren't monitoring how to do that. who's responsible is that? parents monitor parents parents need to monitor parents need sort of need to monitor that sort of stuff. you know, i wanted stuff. so do you know, i wanted my is this is my solutions and this is this is i think , lots of children, the i think, lots of children, the ones that do tend to do better or the ones that are the ones who have outside outside activity in school. and i'll tell you for one because if you don't get on in school if you went to say, for instance ballet, army cadet, swimming , ballet, army cadet, swimming, whatever, swimming club, whatever, swimming club, whatever you then put yourself in front of different audience in front of a different audience so can then balance you your so you can then balance you your life you might not life out. so you might not enjoying that, but you might be a lot agreement says that this want put something right want to put something right about kids go to about this one kids that go to outside activities get all sorts of skills quite frankly are missing school discipline missing in school discipline teamwork all that stuff they haven't got time to do that in school. but the problem is it's not solution . i mean, it's not the solution. i mean, it's just kids a lot of just keep kids busy. a lot of kids these days, they're sat in their rooms. they're on their phones. is, nothing their rooms. they're on their pimore is, nothing
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their rooms. they're on their pimore interesting is, nothing their rooms. they're on their pimore interesting to ;, nothing their rooms. they're on their pimore interesting to them|ing their rooms. they're on their pimore interesting to them than is more interesting to them than their tech. is more interesting to them than theirtech. i is more interesting to them than their tech. i think they can as busy them to be, busy as we'd like them to be, but they're still going have but they're still going to have phones. interesting phones. and it's interesting that this story has come up when the online safety bill is back in this week, because in parliament this week, because i've testimony i've from reading the testimony of who wrote that, of ian russell, who wrote that, who she took her own who she know she took her own life seeing all this. life after seeing all this. absolutely online and absolutely stuff online and brought up some statistics, i found quite shocking that three quarters of teens have watched self—harm content online, and 83% of those didn't even look for it. yeah, i thought that was terrifying. well, that miriam case mp miriam case is working really hard to have some accountability from the big tech giants over those of incidents , giants over those of incidents, but that just feels like a long away feel, doesn't it? if you've got a kids in distress, if you've got a 15 year old who is self—harming, it's all very well. an mp standing up in court in the house of and talking about the fact that you know the guy that runs google these tapes and it it's and responsibility for it it's not it is in the here and now it's hey around here and now
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that you know people to that you know people need to identify early, you identify the signs early, you know perhaps teachers do need a little bit training to sort little bit of training to sort of these things within of spot these things within kids. it in the kids. so they can nip it in the bud early enough. is a controversial question then. should activities be should these activities be compulsory? because this is a problem schools failed. problem with schools now failed. i've kids, everything i've got three kids, everything is everything is optional everything is becoming optional. everything you to netball you you don't have to do netball you don't do athletic don't don't have to do athletic don't already to see i'd love to already love to see i'd love to see it compulsory so the sort of like logistics behind making it we all get dangers let's we can all get off dangers let's look army that's we struggle look the army that's we struggle to get adults through the door to get adults through the door to become adult soldiers because it takes so much of their time time precious to everybody time is precious to everybody and. what's happening. and. this is what's happening. there's just many there's probably just too many people that happen, isn't there? you know? i mean, what else is on train ? but there's also on this train? but there's also this strange sort of mary, between teachers between parents and teachers where teachers are saying, oh, we make kids do things. they don't to do their mental don't to do for their mental health. and you've got parents often going, it's don't mind. just make them run around a field for an hour and wear field for half an hour and wear them out when they come home,
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you but then you've also you know. but then you've also got saying, got the other parents saying, make do anything they make my child do anything they don't i want to don't want. do it. i want to upset them. we're in a mess. and the the ones who are the kids are the ones who are suffering. yeah, definitely. but also the now, they're also the kids now, they're growing in a world i know. growing in a in a world i know. i don't understand the whole idea teenage girl idea that a teenage girl is filtering looks to filtering the way she looks to appear online and appear different online and seeing of seeing filtered versions of herself it must be absolutely herself. it must be absolutely decimating image. oh, absolutely. i'm boys and boys as well a pressure to look good look good it's just as just as much the pressures of social media and stuff that weren't there when we were kids. yeah it's massive and we underestimate single is and underestimate that single is and so the legislate to so therefore the legislate to control these people from what they're doing are you the big giants googles the twitters giants the googles the twitters the know when gripping so the you know when gripping so we've to move on but there we've got to move on but there is one campaign at the moment that i think is going to gain momentum year, which to momentum this year, which is to make smartphone illegal for make smartphone ads illegal for the 16. and i think the under 16. and i think there's there's be there's some there's might be some arguments said that that some arguments be said that that be a good idea now after the
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break don't like banning break i don't like banning anything the break. anything right after the break. we're pledges we're asking net zero pledges achievable lecturer in natural sciences at bangor at bangor commentator dr. christian and our fantasy commonsense correspondent june we'll be debating that issue after the morning's news. but thank you. it's 1133. here's the latest from . the gb newsroom and from. the gb newsroom and metropolitan police officer has pleaded guilty to multiple offences, including 24 counts of rape over 17 years. david carrick a serving officer carried out 49 offences against 12 women. he admitted raping nine of the women, some on numerous occasions over months , numerous occasions over months, years he's due to be sentenced early next month , a 22 year old early next month, a 22 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder following a drive by shooting at a church in central london on saturday. a seven year old girl
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has been left a life threatening condition after shots were fired from a car at st tyler wishes church in euston four other women and another child were also injured in the attack . also injured in the attack. thousands of teachers in england and wales could go on strike over pay as the results of a ballot be announced later today. elsewhere nurses are walking out on and thursday this week. members of the royal college of nursing have warned the next walkout could include all eligible members in. england if no progress is made in negotiations . meanwhile, mp will negotiations. meanwhile, mp will debate new anti strike legislation that would require minimum levels during industrial action if passed. some health fire education, transport and border security staff could be forced to work during strikes or sacked if they don't . the tuc sacked if they don't. the tuc described the law as spiteful and said it would give ministers sweeping powers that restrict the right to strike. labour says
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gb news. hey, good morning. it's 1137. hey, good morning. it's1137. this is bev turner today gb news. now is the government reviews its net zero pledges. a conservative mp has warned that delaying climate action could risk damaging the uk's economic . the report by chris skidmore says that the government's climate policies need to be more consistent and ambitious. he's launched mission zero. so the net zero review this morning in the last few minutes. however, climate scientists are predicting that households could be made to pay at least double. number ten is estimated to bring under control. so let's work out
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where we're at with this. it's one of the biggest news stories every week. net zero. should we be having a vote on it? every week. net zero. should we be having a vote on it ? okay. be having a vote on it? okay. analysis from senior lecturer in natural sciences at bangor university, dr. christian dunn . university, dr. christian dunn. the commentator jun slater. good morning to you both. so let me start with you, dr. dunn, if i may. why we need net zero. what? how how urgent is this emergency 7 how how urgent is this emergency ? and is it worth it to the country in terms of our economic position ? yeah, that's a really position? yeah, that's a really good question. and the answer be, yes, we do need to do it because all. the evidence suggests that if we don't do it and the cost of not doing it far outstrip the of the effort and the money that we'd to spend to get done now. so we have to get it done now. so we have to do it and the consequences of not it if the sum of the not doing it if the sum of the models which show some of the worst do happen, worst case scenarios do happen, then talking about then you're talking about complete kind of collapse of society. mean, talking society. i mean, you're talking about not being about staple crops not being able grow in certain parts able to grow in certain parts of the which rely upon. the world, which we rely upon. so consequences not doing
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so the consequences of not doing it catastrophic. so it could be catastrophic. so we've do it. and we've got to do it. and of course, i understand the disgruntlement . for many people disgruntlement. for many people seeing these costs rise . i mean, seeing these costs rise. i mean, that has to be addressed by the government and i think it has in this report, because he does get more does sort of show. but actually some of actually doing taking some of these could well, these actions could say, well, save the country money in the long term in the short term, there will be pain. what sort of timescale do see christian . for timescale do see christian. for having this action done or for. what sort of timescale for humanity? for the planet? sort of timescale. we work. can we talk about this? is that our lifetime ? i think we are lifetime? i think we are starting to see the effects of it. yes now. right now, because latest all the science that's coming out is showing that these extreme weather events as the heat wave across europe, the heat wave across europe, the heat wave across india and, some of the wildfires, the these these extreme weather conditions are more are happening in and more frequency and severity because of climate change. so,
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yes, we are seeing these results . but what i would always stress when it comes to these issues is models are fantastic and they're getting better all the time. but what these models cannot predict are tipping points. and when we get to these tipping points such as permafrost melt , such as as permafrost melt, such as ocean , ocean currents changing, ocean, ocean currents changing, we don't what's going to happen then. so we need to be making sure that we take action as soon as we possibly can. and we have to sense. to do common sense. correspondent june slater would like to respond to what you've just then about the emergency that we're all facing. yeah, i would because i think what we need to do in this country and western societies is, is recognise a list of and what is and is not an emergency planning for events that may may not happen 300,000 years from now isn't an emergency. it's a strategy . emergencies are things strategy. emergencies are things people not being able to afford. the heating , not being people not being able to afford. the heating, not being able to afford diesel for their cars, not being able to get an ambulance. those are that are
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happening here and now and mp should be concentrating on that . let's just do a bit of background. mr. chris skidmore . background. mr. chris skidmore. he's the guy that said that theresa may's brexit deal was an excellent idea . i beg to differ excellent idea. i beg to differ . it also said the 39 billion bond that we gave to the eu, a small potatoes considering we're getting back for it. i'm not quite sure we've seen anything yet . and the best thing i can yet. and the best thing i can advice to scientists is to away from the science and look back at your society because you're making sweeping set. at your society because you're making sweeping set . all the making sweeping set. all the evidence points to. no, it doesn't. because i'm looking at that points away from it for chris skidmore is just me on facebook because i something on his threat because he said it was a great place to announce the launch of his next mission zero. i think it's mission skid row because . we can't afford to row because. we can't afford to do this and we can't afford to get there by 30. and those are the facts the scientists need to
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work on to come up with a formula that allows us to live our lives in a reasonable fashion. we all want to see less plastic in, the sea. we all want to see animals treated better. we're not in disagreeing with that. what i'm in disagreement with is specialists coming out with is specialists coming out with specialist knowledge. chris he sat there probably with a full belly and. he's hating all these people in this cuban food banks. these people can't afford to switch their heating on. that's you imagine sick not what you're about. now, the you're talking about. now, the other works for me with other thing works for me with politicians not particularly the scientists that is scientists because that is something absolutely something they absolutely believe do believe that believe. i do not believe that what you're saying is an absolute i think a lot of absolute fact. i think a lot of countries science and debbie bellamy spoke about it many, many times but it got cancelled of course it wasn't of course because it wasn't delivering the that most of the government comes out with now chris, let me bring just just let me bring our doctor back in and lots take on that. dr. and lots take take on that. dr. christine dunn, do you take jews , though, that the science isn't settled ? and in the meantime, settled? and in the meantime, while we can't pay to put our
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heating on it, we fill our car with petrol . there should be with petrol. there should be a debate about whether the emergency is as critical as some scientists say that is. okay let's take the latter point first, if i may. so you know, can we afford should we? the cost side of things, if we actually got a room in order for actually got a room in order for a house in sorry when it came to things like insulating our homes , providing power with sustainable resource sources , sustainable resource sources, that the price of energy would coming down. and i think that's people kind of forget about it. yes the transition from fossil sustainable is quite extreme but if we did it on a steady on a steady way and if we started this before, for example, why on or every new developed point, what does every new development have to a certain amount of its power by? microgeneration on site . so for example they would site. so for example they would all have to have solar panels wind turbines, small wind turbines. why isn't that the case? why aren't all our homes insulated properly? and then
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when comes to the case of the when it comes to the case of the science, this is i understand people say, well that is not is finalised and there is other suggestions arguments out there but the overwhelming evidence of science says that it is happening and i think that's the issue that people can forget about. the example i would always give is when it comes to medicine. so for example, most of trust, obviously modern medicine . and so when we're ill, medicine. and so when we're ill, we go to the doctors and we use whatever they we don't take the advice . geoff from minnesota advice. geoff from minnesota because he once said the tomato is makes you completely healthy . we take on that modern science and modern medicine and we trust it to get ourselves better yet people seem don't want to seem to do this. it comes to something as serious as the environment the science, the bulk of science overwhelmingly says that this is the case. june we've got to wrap it up. but last 10 seconds, june, to it's not overwhelming evidence. it's
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overwhelmingly that's the difference. what we doesn't get talked about and, chris gardner is actually doing his own report on how well it's going . the man on how well it's going. the man who delivered the agenda . last who delivered the agenda. last thing to leave you with was a pubuc thing to leave you with was a public mandate for this. this kind of serious legislation should be put to the public, not scientists not politicians and not extra non—government organisations. this is just a licence to create tax and create billionaire agendas that will benefit from the we will get fleeced . okay. thank you both. fleeced. okay. thank you both. housing i'm a property developer. i'll talk to him . developer. i'll talk to him. why? his plans can't happen thank you guys. thank you both so much. james slater and dr. christian dunn, the let me know what you think gbviews@gbnews.uk case. some excerpts from chris gilmore's article. he says moving must include spending money. we know that investing in net zero today will be a cheaper than delaying as as increasing the economic and climate benefits. the review recognises we have fallen behind. but it
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sets out how we can be world leading in these areas once again we need to remove the barriers that are in place at the moment . that barriers that are in place at the moment. that is chris skidmore he chair of the skidmore he was the chair of the net zero review now . parents in net zero review now. parents in northern ireland are sharing their how online their concern over how online gaming poses safety risks to their children . over the past their children. over the past decade, video games have introduced more social elements, making them dangerous as making them as dangerous as social media, some say, for vulnerable kids. dougie beattie has story . they have has the story. they have everything. so whenever i was going down, what do you want for christmas music? there was nothing that he didn't have and a playstation was genuinely the only thing that i think has that we boy didn't have from statement let's just let him get it christina mcconnell is a parent like so many others across the uk. question even the gifts they bought for their children at christmas online gaming has now changed. colin stepped of a nick safeguard explains what essentially gaming
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now looks like connecting with other people whether friends and our school and down the street and bringing people and actually playing against people right across the world. so actually gaming has become the new social frontier, connecting with others , playing against others. louise marks is a parent that is aware this and worries for her social skills . our children don't do skills. our children don't do relationships the way that we done relationships because they done relationships because they do relationships through like ours they play online. they do virtual. but you're not. you're not seeing that person's facial expression just how long do our children spend and do they with all other gaming participants on the weekends, maybe 10 hours a day, just. i don't really talk to them. so i just talk to my friends if they're in a game. but i wouldn't really talk to people who i don't know. so i just turn my microphone off and just turn my microphone off and just play with all social and
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gaming platforms . they are open gaming platforms. they are open to security breaches . and to security breaches. and parents should be aware of the risks. as a parent , it's really risks. as a parent, it's really easy to become overwhelmed . and easy to become overwhelmed. and it's not right . actually, what it's not right. actually, what these games are risks that are involved with it and it's really important as parents that we look at participating and what our children young people do online. so when we give them to consoles, when we give them access to tablets and devices to play access to tablets and devices to play these games on and to be able to over the internet, it's really important that we don't abdicate that responsibility that we parties , that we engage that we parties, that we engage and open conversation with our children, young people about the risks, but also that we utilise the benefits of safety settings on these platforms so that we look at the parental controls and that we discuss these risks with our children, young people and also find content that's suitable gaming gaming content that for children and, young people to play is really crucially important. children always be aware, not to engage
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with those hiding behind the game on amenity. and these games also can the same way can on social media that actually users can be on these platforms and look to build relationships , look to build relationships, build rapport with children people and that can be exploited and again misused and again that's where those who maybe have a sexual deviant interest in children, young people can , in children, young people can, then use to exploit them for other purposes. gb news belfast .thank other purposes. gb news belfast . thank you, dougie . now i'm . thank you, dougie. now i'm joined back with my guests one last time this morning. amy nicholl, writer and broadcaster . one of the few left leaning commentators who is brave enough to come on gb news. so please don't give it too much of hard time and x sas trooper and security expert phil campion. nice to see you. dressed so smart for the day. well this is the best clobber. giving you a hard time on twitter. you've got you say go like i like a bad of
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months in the studio. know absolutely right . now months in the studio. know absolutely right. now nhs months in the studio. know absolutely right . now nhs too. absolutely right. now nhs too. three voters think that the nhs is offering a bad service which of means that one in three think it's all right. let's have a look at some of these. king that's a shocking bit, isn't it? it's the fact that one in three think very good. three would think very good. three would think it was bad. all these other people. i would put other people. well i would put my category. i my mum in that category. yes, i do think i do think she's do think i. i do think she's just the only person in the country. for instance, she country. but for instance, she has kind semi chronic has a an kind of semi chronic condition. autoimmune condition. an autoimmune condition. an autoimmune condition , and she the most condition, and she gets the most incredible service from the nhs , from king's hospital in london and from the local hospital where she lives in oxfordshire and has a condition called aplastic anaemia. she what i'm telling you and she gets amazing and she's always comes back from the hospital and she says what the hospital and she says what the nhs when they do it right they really right. you two they do it really right. you two types of experience here and your mum's experience and god bless her hopefully she does well. okay but having a well. okay but she's having a great experience. she's mine all
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the presumably some the time. presumably some programmes she has to go through and of stuff. a and all that sort of stuff. a regulatory that is in is in regulatory plan that is in is in the bag. she's having that done. great. and do do a great. lovely. and they do do a tremendous that. tremendous in doing that. i think other thirds only think the other two thirds only get exposure to this one when they've when they've time. they've when they've stub time. yes. end up in and even yes. and they end up in and even when well i haven't when they got well i haven't even the 3 hours in even seen the 3 hours in 2 hours. there's a clipboard hours. and there's a clipboard and of tea mentality where. and cup of tea mentality where. people will run out on the gentleman, to a minute gentleman, go to within a minute only what riles only and that's what riles people that's gets people people up. that's gets people going up because there's no going back up because there's no question the service that question about the service that can then the can be provided then the abilities the doctors nurses abilities of the doctors nurses that it's getting that is amazing but it's getting access to that and there being enough of that i think that's where the nhs is falling down at the moment. you know, over years they've been, they've had my sort of pots of money thrown at them , all that sort of stuff, them, all that sort of stuff, all the older sort of stuff. right. where does that going? why is somebody not stepping back and know what i mean? back and go, know what i mean? this working this isn't working right? certainly, you know, send somebody an outside
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somebody in maybe an outside authority oh, authority to say, right, oh, what clipboard . i'll see what a clipboard. i'll see what's on and i'll see what's going on and i'll see where pinch. you could where i can pinch. you could make a quid, get some time going. maybe you're not doing that. not mind how often that. do not mind how often needs issue the pots needs drawer issue and the pots of argument which i hate of money argument which i hate the over the time because actually over the time because actually over the years there's been the last ten years there's been gradual cuts cuts cuts cuts cuts to departments . and if we to all departments. and if we really want to fund the nhs properly , surely the funding properly, surely the funding needs to be comparable to a health care system in a comparable sized country. and it's not so, although it is a bit indisputably seems a large amount of money it's not enough , although i know what it's being taught to toxic. i would love to see that money is wasted. how much goes on complete nonsense. and when you look back at it, you go you know how much ? what would you call how much? what would you call nonsense? i mean, any wasted money? and often the waste money or time resources or time if they waste it, they have to be looked at. it has to be debriefed. it has to be back fit so that it's not wasted again and repeatedly they seem to make
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the same people always draw issue at the management, whether they're nhs that are they're 82% of the nhs that are in positions, which they're 82% of the nhs that are in again positions, which they're 82% of the nhs that are in again not positions, which they're 82% of the nhs that are in again not comparable s, which they're 82% of the nhs that are in again not comparable to vhich they're 82% of the nhs that are in again not comparable to other is again not comparable to other industries. you need i industries. you need, you need i think people about think often people about you know, these diversity know, we have these diversity managers that's a waste managers as and that's a waste of and that's different of money and that's a different to but and i think to have really but and i think that's very think that is that's a very i think that is actually a of a diversion from where we genuinely have waste which is pharmacists coal companies a invoice come companies seeing a invoice come in saying seeing request for in saying seeing a request for products in from the nhs products come in from the nhs and sticking a massive zero in the end of it because absolutely that's way they need to be, that's the way they need to be, right? yes, definitely. but that sort happens and sort of thing happens and it's identified i mean, you identified going on. i mean, you get process the get that process of the procuring contract, the procuring of contract, the procuring of contract, the procuring of contract, the procuring of drugs, the of services. i think we get absolutely stitched up from the as the nhs . yeah, nhs as the nhs. yeah, but the nhs was never going to be safe in the hands of this government because even it's create and after the second ago the tories voted against it, they didn't want a national health service. so just don't think is in safe . so just don't think is in safe. i just want us to do this sort
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of story right. britain shows a lack of interest with last place in savings league. the british pubuc in savings league. the british public are the worst in the developed world at saving our money. 750,000 of the poorest households have no puts away and the richest benefiting most from £7 billion. and you will government tax breaks a report has revealed are you a saver or a spend a filter? i'm a spender but with this it was those 750,000 families. what are they supposed to save? everything's going up. the cost of a say or even most of these people. so what i suppose to put away and when you do manage to get slightly ahead is we watch machines go, yeah, i buying machines go, yeah, i mean buying . i'm sorry, no wiggle room, but see, think all these people see, i think all these people offered lungs every offered your lungs every 5 minutes i'll you a minutes going i'll give you a i don't give you i'll give you i'll give you the washing machine the never never. then machine on the never never. then you're in a big hole and you're looking up at and richer looking up at it and richer people to think, ding, people are going to think, ding, ding, ding of poor are ding, ding, ding of the poor are going ding, ding, ding, ding, going to ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. know, i like i ding, ding. you know, i like i like to the elderly
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like talking to the elderly about this topic because what they me is people they say to me is people you will too much. you don't will spend too much. you don't live your means. you've live within your means. you've got cut your cloth got to cut your cloth accordingly. like accordingly. i, i don't like those people say that those people that say that because the moment, the because at the moment, the average eight average house price is eight times when times the average income when those were saving for houses, i think it was two times your national income, your average income. so we a lot more about saving than them because they never had do and never had to do much. and the reason are more likely to reason that are more likely to have a this netflix account and avocado on toast because our spending completely spending habits have completely changed saving for changed because now saving for a deposit so unobtainable there's no point even trying . well no point even trying. well you've got amy nicole then you need to try harder. right, guys thank you so we've been asking you this whether you support the teachers while according to our official twitter poll, over 3000 official twitter poll, over 3000 of you voted. thank you, 21% of you support the teachers, but 17, 9% of you say no , do not 17, 9% of you say no, do not support it . 17, 9% of you say no, do not support it. right. phil campion, amy nicole, thank you so much. coming up next on gb news is david live with darren mccaffrey
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right i'm bev turner. i'll see you tomorrow morning. hello i'm aidan mcgivern and here's the latest forecast from the met office. it's turned colder and it's certainly going to feel that way today will be some showers. and showers in showers. and those showers in places falling as snow places will be falling as snow but also sunshine as. this but also some sunshine as. this low pulls away. we pull in this clean but cold northerly wind. this low brought some rain and some hill snow to the southeast earlier on, but it is moving away. wintry showers into eastern england may a rain and hail that lower levels, but some sleet mixed in rain showers for the far southwest. but the brunt of the showers are affecting northern scotland, northern ireland, north west wales and elsewhere. there'll be some sunshine , but wherever you are sunshine, but wherever you are it is going to feel cold six or seven in the south, 1 to 2 in the north, and that means these showers are going to be coming in as snow, a few centimetres possible low levels, more possible at low levels, more significant snow the hills significant snow over the hills of northern ireland and northern scotland, much as 15
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scotland, as much as 15 centimetres building again centimetres building up again over parts of northern over the high parts of northern scotland and some very significant snow. shetland scotland and some very significebut;now. shetland scotland and some very significebut wherever land scotland and some very significebut wherever youi scotland and some very significebut wherever you are, indeed, but wherever you are, it's going to be a cold night. and with temperatures dropping way risk of ice in places, especially west wales, southwest england with some rain showers here, northwest as well as northern ireland and northern. so some slippery surfaces about first thing on tuesday, but also a bright start. first thing on tuesday, but also a bright start . so although it a bright start. so although it will be very cold and frosty for all of us , going to be a sunny all of us, going to be a sunny for many. and those showers will continue into the north and the west with some again , wintry west with some again, wintry showers affecting west wales, north—west england . those north—west england. those continue into tuesday night . continue into tuesday night. northern ireland and northern scotland seeing snow accumulations and later tuesday , risk of gales for northern scotland and some very significant blizzards , significant blizzards, especially over hills and into coasts. so some weather around over the next days before it turns drier and eventually milder later this week .
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