cold good evening . it's 8:00. and i'm good evening. it's 8:00. and i'm laurence fox tonight we will be discussing the uk government blocking the snp attempt to indoctrinate children into changing their agenda, then get more cancellations and apologies for the army to salivate over as they drag you to the scaffold for translation. and finally , for translation. and finally, the execution of british iranian ex—politician by iran has been condemned around the world. i will be speaking his nephew about it happened the first in the were probably middle east . the were probably middle east. laurence, thank the top story on

gb news tonight. scotland's first minister has called the uk decision to block the scottish gender bill as a full frontal attack on the scottish parliament. sturgeon's comments follow westminster her choosing to use a section 35 order which stops a scottish bill from becoming law . the bill was becoming law. the bill was designed to make it easier for people to change their legally recognised gender, and it allows trans people to obtain a gender recognition certificate without a medical diagnosis. recognition certificate without a medical diagnosis . this in a medical diagnosis. this in other today the metropolitan police has apologised victims after a serving officer has been revealed be a serial sex offender . in revealed be a serial sex offender. in a revealed be a serial sex offender . in a tweet, sir revealed be a serial sex offender. in a tweet, sir mark reilly said david carrick should not have been an officer. carrick pleaded guilty to 49 offences relating to 12 women over 24 counts of rape were admitted to over a 17 year period. he is due to be

sentenced next month. and earlier today, baroness casey is conducting a police standards review, urged the home secretary to hold a full inquiry. review, urged the home secretary to hold a full inquiry . suella to hold a full inquiry. suella braverman has called today a sobering day for the police service . it's appalling . service. it's appalling. incidents represent a breach of trust . it will affect people's trust. it will affect people's confidence in the police . it's confidence in the police. it's clear that standards and culture need to in policing. and that's why i'm driving forward changes to support the police and to support chief constables around the country in doing so , the country in doing so, thousands of teachers in england and wales are to stage seven days of strikes over the next two months. nine out of ten members of the national union voted in favour of action during february and march. the union met the 50% legal turnout required by law to go on strike. the government's offered a 5% pay the government's offered a 5% pay rise, but the unions demanding offer, which is above

inflation and nurses will go on strike for another two days next month, as is disputes with the government over pay fails to reach a resolution . members from reach a resolution. members from the royal college of nursing will strike on the sixth and 7th of february. nurses 55 trusts in england are planning two days of action this week , but next month action this week, but next month could include union members from 73 trusts. the rcn has been calling for a pay rise of 5% above inflation, though it says it would accept a lower offer . it would accept a lower offer. the uk health security agency has issued a severe cold alert in response to arctic conditions sweeping across the uk today and tonight the met office issuing a warning for snow and ice across parts of northern ireland, north western england and north until midday tomorrow . snow will also midday tomorrow. snow will also continue to affect northern scotland until wednesday .

scotland until wednesday. meanwhile, an ice warning has beenin meanwhile, an ice warning has been in place for south—west england overnight tonight, stretching until 9:00 tomorrow morning , including devon and morning, including devon and cornwall . you're up to date on cornwall. you're up to date on tv online and on dab, plus radio with gb news. more now from laurence fox . laurence fox. two weeks ago, the metropolitan police sent a letter , a man who police sent a letter, a man who made a twitter video , the new made a twitter video, the new look, wembley way, which carries our fans back and forth to the national stadium. the video reveals a sea of flags lining the route as far as the eye can see. not union jack and georgia flags flying, but other flags holding flags all in that radiant glory . this man who

radiant glory. this man who committed the video had also committed the video had also committed the video had also committed the heresy of mocking flag, anthem and his twitter apostasy was picked by the police who were on the case immediately. i personally found his comments crass and distasteful, but none of that is the point. they are not a legal metropoles in his right to this centre and inform man he was required to attend a voluntary interview which is mildly confusing to the fact that required a voluntary a literally opposite. but the plot thickens. the letter stated that he was required to attend this interview for breaching an act of parliament, which doesn't even exist . the piece referred even exist. the piece referred to this pretend piece of legislation as malicious communications act of 2003, but they may have got in their determination to get to the bottom of this case, whether they were referring to the communications act of 2003 or its predecessor. the malicious communique sessions act of 1988 with lots of maliciousness here , we may never know. it matters

not why get bogged down in petty foibles like the law. the minor committed the sin of mocking the flag and the police were going to stop nothing defend . to stop at nothing to defend. the flag's right. i to stop at nothing to defend. the flag's right . i personally the flag's right. i personally struggle to see how you can communicate maliciously with object. but again , in the land object. but again, in the land of being kind just days before the start , the third most the start, the third most important month the woke calendar after pride month. black history month that ultimately sacred . lgbtq element ultimately sacred. lgbtq element of pride history month something or other and something needed to be done and done quickly . pity be done and done quickly. pity the fool who in any way objects with political policing or dares to point out to the process that that time may be better spent doing that job. the public paid them to , which is to solve them to, which is to solve actual crimes instead of policing or mines. the metropolitan police, like tammany forces around this country has their very own anti—racist rainbow brigade and

police with an iron fist . which police with an iron fist. which bnngs police with an iron fist. which brings us rather uncomfortably to david carrick or dave, as he was referred to by his colleagues, a 17 year veteran of the met police is firearms unit. 17 years during which years his status as a police officer to groom at least 24 women, which is admitted to so far before raping them . he did this raping them. he did this unhindered despite coming onto the police's and their raid on nine times during his time within the force . 24 rapes so within the force. 24 rapes so far for dave decade of abuse nine unanswered calls for help . nine unanswered calls for help. so one wonders what the officer slumped at his desk, trawling through social media for rainbow. hey might have achieved if they had instead used their time to take a closer look at

the list of complaints made against dave , one of their own. against dave, one of their own. we will never know or failing that, what crime set officer might have prevented if they had been outside on a on the beat near a church and in last saturday afternoon, when a seven year old girl was gunned down in a drive by shooting before being rushed in a critical rushed to hospital in a critical condition first weighing the rapist , as he condition first weighing the rapist, as he was referred to by colleagues crew in the name you would thought a now dave the met are now looking into more than 1600 cases of alleged sexual violence within their own ranks , and yet they still have time to go after a man who hurt the feelings of a flag flag when the police are so fast to investigate those who mock the rainbow coat than they are to investigate a very real, in—your—face criminality of their own . how can the public their own. how can the public have any confidence in the and speaking of confidence , it has

speaking of confidence, it has evaporated in the national health service as a major new survey today reveals that 67% of the public think it's doing a bad job. i can't imagine shutting the whole thing down for a couple of years to do any favours, and we still have that very awkward 50,000 lives lost of nowhere and the complete and utter silence from the government upon it. there will be no remembrance wall for those lost souls. some lives are more important than others . it would important than others. it would seem. they are just the collateral damage , the cost of collateral damage, the cost of the power grab on our civil liberties , and the right to ask liberties, and the right to ask hard questions and express valid opinions, even in the houses of parliament. so i wish report a crime . our institutions have crime. our institutions have been taken hostage by a political ideology so pure , so political ideology so pure, so glorious, that we must worship and spread the good news in every available moment. an ideology which preaches

inclusion whilst promoting division and ideology so perfect that millions are spent each yearin that millions are spent each year in the police and in the health service to pay for diverse equity and inclusion. comments there to ensure observe to it. one wonders if these lost diversity millions will it be better spent on someone to investigate bastards day and is he in his veins or whether of this wasted cash could be spent on an investigation as to why there are 50,000 more people six feet down than they should have beenin feet down than they should have been in 2022. one thing we do know is that if we want to preserve our culture, then we need to surgically remove political posturing from , our political posturing from, our treasury of public services and national institutions . but national institutions. but first, with the uk blocking the scottish gender recognition , i scottish gender recognition, i am asking you do think devolution will ever be enough .7 devolution will ever be enough? email me at your views at gbnews.uk or tweet me at lots of

fox . fox. the reason we ask because of the snp gender recognition bill. it looks like uk and scottish governments are headed for supreme showdown. this is a historic first. whether uk government will invoke section 35 and the scotland act, which would stop controversial scottish law taking effect next yearif scottish law taking effect next year if the north has claimed the decision is an outrage and has claimed the government using trans people as a political weapon . i believe psychologists weapon. i believe psychologists call that rejection anyway. joining me now for both sides of this debate is the teacher, debbie hayton, and the human rights campaigner peter tatchell . good evening both of you . . good evening both of you. debbie, could i start you? what do you make of this ? well, i do you make of this? well, i think nicola sturgeon's been using trans people a political weapon, if i'm honest, we were living quite happily in society

for five years ago. but then this row has appeared and we've been dragged into a political debate which we never wanted to be. our rights been hold through, hold through the media. what we're seeing here is the scottish government . well, the scottish government. well, the scottish government. well, the scottish parliament apparently has moved beyond its level of competence and the uk government has rightly said, no, you're not allowed to do that because it interferes with reserved matters which are purely the purely the grounds and purely the business of the uk government . of the uk government. interestingly, that trans people perhaps would like to be less visible, not more visible to get on with their lives . yes, that's on with their lives. yes, that's the that was always the idea of transition . you transitioned in transition. you transitioned in order to be able to get on with your life in peace and in peace not to be not be part of an active political debate, which was seemingly to actually undermine some of the best care, the basic foundation of society, what it means to be a man and a

man or a woman. peter good evening. what do you make of this? i think this decision by the scottish secretary of the westminster is a direct attack on trans people and most significantly or equally significantly or equally significantly a scottish democracy . the government is democracy. the government is saying to the scottish parliament and the scottish people . you have elected msp , people. you have elected msp, you have elected a parliament, you've passed this bill with a huge majority , 86 to 39, the huge majority, 86 to 39, the largest nation has been through years of public consultation and debate . yet now the british debate. yet now the british parliament, the british government is going to usurp a devolved matter which was agreed the devolution settlement two decades ago. that tears up devolution . and i think it's devolution. and i think it's going to fuel further demands for independence because the scottish people rightly say we elected our parliament. the parliament voted and now westminster is vetoing. and it's absolutely wrong. this is not a matter on which the westminster

parliament was ever supposed to have the right to veto the scottish secretary says that the legislation is in violation of equality act. it is not. and the fact that he's not spelled out how it's in violation of the equality act, i think shows he's just pacing time and using this an excuse to try and justify a very bad decision which tears up the devolution agreement of 1990s. but this is about as very technical takedown of the government's . but surely it's government's. but surely it's something much simpler than that . it's the fact that a man identify as a woman without a diagnosis, a body or anything anymore, and it just for three months. surely that's talking about something very simple here. not as complicated as you know, we're not going to break up the united kingdom over transgender, are we? well, i think scottish people will think the scottish people will be very that their be rightly very angry that their democratically elected being democratically elected is being usurped by westminster on an issue where there are supposed to be no use patient powers.

now, issue trans people is now, the issue trans people is very simple. there are differences between a biological woman or a trans woman . they're woman or a trans woman. they're different. they're not the same . but both deserve equal rights and equal respect. and this legislation is simply going to give people the right to change their through a 1d. via a statutory declaration is an instrument of law that is legally binding. so anybody who whimsically takes out a self i.d. trans identity and then violates it will be open to prosecution. this system works well in other countries. there's no reason why it can't work in the uk as well. debbie i was reading through trans legislation in, countries across the world and was actually very moved by the belgian opinion story of this very small of people who 9% of them have jobs. a lot working in sex work. should we not be doing more to

protect trans people ? well, protect trans people? well, you've brought in the case in argentina. we've got different issues going on here, lawrence . issues going on here, lawrence. trans people in the uk when we're a different demographic to prostitutes in south america it's a very environment to be in. now whether it's because they're or they the work in sex industry who . but what looking industry who. but what looking at here is something happening in the united kingdom where trans people are not oppressed. we're not specifically harassed as as some victimised community. we're not we hold down jobs, we we've we're well protected the law. what's what's happened in scotland though is that the scottish government is actually moved on something which does affect the equality act. alister jack, he's right. if peter says that transwomen and biological women are different and that is true . but the gender recognition true. but the gender recognition act itself, if i chose to get to

grc and use those, use that i'd be legally in dispute . it should be legally in dispute. it should be legally in dispute. it should be from a woman. all my including my birth certificate would say female. and what that means is, is that service providers are unable to distinguish between me and a woman. and if i'd been born in scotland and i apply for a scottish grc, the fact live in england doesn't matter. so it is affecting issues across united kingdom is this and because of that it's not a matter which is just affecting scotland and that is the reason why it's right. sir alister jack to invoke this. now peter also talks about the effect on the union but so far i'd be hauling in scotland says itself. it is unpopular so appealing to the people's may be very interesting it could make the it could break the union yes but it could also it could also make the union if the people of scotland see that are two governments here they have two governments. one of which knows

the difference between man and a woman and will protect women's rights and the other one which which doesn't seem to know. peter a very good point peter surely a very good point to be able to say that this you know you're taking you're completely affecting their entire history rewriting their history is not there. you know i mentioned the argentinean case but you look at spain and spain looking to anyone who's over 14. so are we looking thin? end of the words. the end of the wedge. there's got a point, surely here. well, debbie is wrong when she says trans are not she says trans people are not oppressed . all the research oppressed. all the research shows that trans people have much higher rates of prejudice , much higher rates of prejudice, discrimination, hate, crime domestic abuse and sexual assault compared to the general population and means that we rightly seek to protect them and, to do everything in our power, to ease their lives. the idea that simply by amending the union, well, no one wants to break up the union as far as know on this issue , but that's

know on this issue, but that's what might happen . so we have to what might happen. so we have to be very careful about an consequences and think that when it comes to trans people, they're simply for dignity and respect. debbie reflects one point of view, but she does not reflect majority trans view in this country , other trans this country, other trans people. can you say that you speak for the majority of trans people in this country? well, i don't merely reflecting the don't i'm merely reflecting the research and the evidence given by trans organisations and individuals to public here in england and wales and in northern ireland and in scotland . it's very clear that the majority trans people want this gender reform bill to go ahead in scotland. they want extend it to northern ireland. england and wales. they are responsible for responsible respectable citizens who deserve support. ideally, anyone question that trans people deserve respect and dignity and support. think i would like to offer the last word . debbie. debbie well,

would like to offer the last word . debbie. debbie well , trans word. debbie. debbie well, trans people don't necessarily want this legislation go through a gender recognition is a very remarkable piece of legislation. it allows as to how does this change our birth certificate to pretend that we're there the sex. and if you open that, help to anybody who to do that for whatever reason , then you're whatever reason, then you're going to attract the people who want to want to imitate the sex and want to and want to circumvent the circuit. the safeguarding safeguarding that the other sex is in place. and when you do that, the system risks being brought into disrepute. we are trans people. well, those activists can disappear onto some of the campaign, but we'll be left here with a system which possibly in disrepute much. and thank you very much, peter tatchell and debbie hayton forjoining me this evening . debbie hayton forjoining me this evening. right. debbie hayton forjoining me

this evening . right. anyway . we this evening. right. anyway. we tonight when we back we will be talking about jeremy and his right to apologise for his comment about meghan. was he right to. well, he's reported that amazon a place and mr. clarkson did not want to come in the apology was all for nothing. i will be back .

in three. fm in three. a little too late . amazon is a little too late. amazon is likely to part ways with jeremy clarkson after a final commission shows if clarkson's go to air. this comes after clarkson issued a public to meghan and harrold about the son

column he wrote. you remember the one where he compared meghan to that game of thrones reference. this is his apology. let's take a look . i am really let's take a look. i am really sorry all the way from the balls of my feet, the follicles on my head. this is me putting up my hands. it's mad with bells on. so jeremy is truly sorry . and so jeremy is truly sorry. and apparently he's so sorry . so jeremy is truly sorry. and apparently he's so sorry. he's come grovelling to the sussexes via medium of email. well, maybe he had hoped it would be would save his amazon show question is, does this apology just make worse? this is essentially an admission of wrongdoing and all those who criticised him, a nice big to beat him with here to discuss this thank heavens general secretary of the free speech union. toby young. toby we've both got in situations whereby we've demanded to be apologised , demanded an apology apologised, demanded an apology from good idea about idea . it from good idea about idea. it usually makes things worse. lawrence so when i was targeted

by twitch mob, when was appointed to a government regulator at, the beginning of 2018, people dredged up things i'd said on twitter , some things i'd said on twitter, some things i'd said on twitter, some things i'd written dating back at least 30 years. a petition was started signed by 220,000 people demanding that theresa may sack me. i had a mob of journalists on my doorstep . and in the end, on my doorstep. and in the end, i thought the only way to make this stop to make it go away, to save my career, would to apologise. so i issued apology and hope that would a line under it turned out that the worst possible thing i have done that was like throwing a piece of raw meat , a show was like throwing a piece of raw meat, a show at piranha fish, the feeding just intensified . the feeding just intensified. then the mob then came for me and for other roles and ended up having to step down from five roles in total. the apology just multiplied. it made it ten times worse. it was just seen as a sign of weakness by the mob. and i'm afraid that that's what's going happen in clarkson's going to happen in clarkson's case to do this . you mentioned

case, to do this. you mentioned once he apologised i guess he's hoping that amazon might reconsider what apparently is their decision not to commission any more series of clarkson's farm or his his version of top gear for . them grant or and gear for. them grant or and maybe he's hoping he'll be able to save his gig at itv. i was going to read i was going to read the duke and duchess response to the to the apology and believe or not, they haven't said we accept it all is forgiven. i'll come round to dinner now they've said they've said that jeremy clarkson has a long standing pattern of writing articles that spread hate rhetoric, dangerous conspiracy theories and misogyny , not an theories and misogyny, not an isolated incident in haste, but rather a series of articles shared hate. so that's that gracious response to his apology. it's made no difference at all. they're just doubling down on that performative outrage . this is the worst. this outrage. this is the worst. this is why i decided when i messed

up and told the truth , i decided up and told the truth, i decided i prepared i and i'm going to apologise for telling the truth. and okay, i. clarkson's language was kind of a bit hardcore, but, you know , people do make you you know, people do make you feel like that. do you think it's feel like that. do you think wsfime feel like that. do you think it's time for you . and it's time for you. and apologise? well, i have been thinking about this, lawrence, because. because mean to make him for all the mean things he said about meghan. i mean, would you hold on, hold said about meghan. i mean, would youjust hold on, hold said about meghan. i mean, would youjust to hold on, hold said about meghan. i mean, would youjust to be hold on, hold said about meghan. i mean, would youjust to be clear on, hold said about meghan. i mean, would youjust to be clear you hold said about meghan. i mean, would youjust to be clear you know, on. just to be clear you know, meghan likes to portray herself as victim , you know, as a bit of a victim, you know, as a bit of a victim, you know, a bit puts upon a bit vulnerable people might say she has been victimised maybe well maybe they might say that and she might well say that and she might well say that and she might well say but you know might well say that but you know it's to look though it's beginning to look as though from being this vulnerable woman who is easily hurt by hert words, if you her you get into an awful lot of trouble. she's so fine. actually she she got piers morgan basically from good morning britain for questioning the veracity of some of remarks in her oprah interview. she's

now done it. they obsessive that has to be i can people that dislike meghan piers pretty okay piers crossed meghan off of our screens reduced to appearing on another channel at talks and now it all sorts of trouble you know you can imagine gervais is at the golden globes picking out meghan in the audience, taking the mic the next, you know, finding he's lost all his gigs, including all his netflix specials. i mean, she's all powerful. you cross her now. she's like the queen hearts, you know, off with his head . so why know, off with his head. so why so what's your i mean, so what? what's your i mean, first of all, would you like to apologise make it on screen? apologise to make it on screen? because i'd i'd because i would. well, i'd i'd like to say i'd to say like to say i'd like to say meghan, i'm sorry. from the balls of my feet to the follicles my head actually. hang on. that doesn't work . and mark on. that doesn't work. and mark sincere can tell he's not thanking meghan. i'd like to say that i thanking meghan. i'd like to say thati do thanking meghan. i'd like to say that i do actually sympathise with some of the stuff that you've been through, but just go

away anyway. what's the answer to this stuff? what are we going to this stuff? what are we going to do? how do we return to world where you can apologise ? the where you can apologise? the apology is accepted and we respect and encourage people to apologise. go our kids. you have to grow up in country and culture and if we don't teach them that they're going to get an apology well meant is truthful. what do we do? well, i think the reason apologies even if. meant and know if. well meant and you know clarkson sounds sincere in his apology. says he it apology. he says that he it won't much difference. he's won't make much difference. he's probably lost amazon. amazon probably lost his amazon. amazon but he's going to apologise anyway . and he wrote a personal anyway. and he wrote a personal note to harry on christmas and the sincere the rest of it. he seems sincere . nonetheless, his apology hasn't been accepted, i hasn't been accepted, and i think this us something think this tells us something about left . you know, about the woke left. you know, they're incapable of forgiveness. they've taken some aspects of christianity, but they've left the best by the side of the road like. the ability to forgive , giving ability to forgive, giving people who've seen the possibility of redemption of being readmitted into kind of community, into your church that's not there in the woke

church. once you've sinned, your out, you're permanently ostracised this and that intolerance that inability to forgive, that inability to distinguish between the sin and the sinner is one of the most unattractive things about this quasi religious cult. so i think, you know, if we're going to move on from here if going to become better as a society . we become better as a society. we need to accept people's apologies if they've done something wrong and they genuinely apologise and they mean it, you know, then we should accept their apologies. let them in and move on. but do it. but does that involve anonymous , secular religion? you anonymous, secular religion? you know , we've got the secular know, we've got the secular religion and no redemption, no repentance and no salvation . is repentance and no salvation. is it time we started encouraging our kids in traditional faith? well, my hope is that in the same way that christianity used to be quaint and quite unforgiving , but became after unforgiving, but became after the reformation a bit more tolerant and a bit more forgiving. so there'll be something like a reformation in the woke church and they will,

in due course, learn to be a little bit more forgiving. i mean, they don't they're all going to end up falling out with each other. one of the characteristics the work is characteristics of the work is they're turning and they're constantly turning and attacking each other for kind of being pious for being insufficiently pious for not the knee fast enough not taking the knee fast enough and the rest of it. you know, if clarkson prepared to take the clarkson is prepared to take the knee meghan, which knee to, harry and meghan, which is he appears have done is what he appears to have done today, they should be today, i think they should be gracious say, okay, gracious about and say, okay, jeremy, up you, get on your way. we accept it. we make we accept it. we all make mistakes. human, after mistakes. we're human, after all. it's like all. but instead, it's like you or a hatemonger, out, all. but instead, it's like you or a hatemonger, out , get or a hatemonger, get out, get out sight or tell of the out of our sight or tell of the prospect a reformation of one. you've just basically given me a sleepless night . sorry about sleepless night. sorry about that, toby. thank you very, very much for joining that, toby. thank you very, very much forjoining me. right the much for joining me. right the nhs is at breaking point you got polls found that voters are losing their faith not only in nhs but in the government with their handling of the health service coming up. well, a former director former non—executive director of the greggs on this topic,

the nhs, greggs on this topic, long see you .

in welcome back. this is the people's channel. so let's the people. earlier i asked you, will devolution ever be enough? david says no. independence is the answer. all right. let it know. changing your mind, then. alan says he the scottish people didn't vote on this. so stop the democratic talk. daniel says exactly . slippery slope fiefdoms exactly. slippery slope fiefdoms over the county country , each over the county country, each with their different laws. ken i live in scotland and i don't know one single person, including supporters who agreed to this bill. so we're all very happy that westminster stopped this madness. paul says

devolution has been an unmitigated disaster too long. the snp has gone . that arrogance the snp has gone. that arrogance is legend . three cheers for is legend. three cheers for rishi and the tories. oh, is legend. three cheers for rishi and the tories . oh, what? rishi and the tories. oh, what? three is for rishi. and the tories today. polling revealed that 85% of voters thought the government was handling nhs badly . this comes after record badly. this comes after record breaking hospital waiting lists and ambulance lays affect people across uk. reports have also revealed 50,000 more people than normal . yes. we're not going to normal. yes. we're not going to stop talking about it. have died in the past . stop talking about it. have died in the past. the national health service is a breaking point and who is to blame for this. service is a breaking point and who is to blame for this . here who is to blame for this. here to discuss this with me is former non—executive director the nhs, graeme smith. good evening graeme. how are you doing ? not bad. how are you? evening graeme. how are you doing? not bad. how are you? i'm worried about this. the public confidence , the nhs. what's confidence, the nhs. what's going ? well, i think the public going? well, i think the public are quite right to be concerned about , the nhs. but the problems

about, the nhs. but the problems of the nhs have only been excessive in the last couple of years. by covid the problems of the nhs. a deep and of the problems that you find in all institutions of the country. the moment, at the moment, equality of outcome is paramount . it's of outcome is paramount. it's important to all people within the nhs. all power has been taken away from people , from taken away from people, from patients and the nhs. talk a good game about providing patients with choice for patients with choice for patients don't have any choice and anyone who has had the misfortune of having to deal with nhs , a&e or gps over the with nhs, a&e or gps over the last few months will can, can, can provide good evidence towards. but there was an interesting bit in the letter in this story said those had actually experienced the nhs recently were quite competent. okay yeah so those who do use health services were more likely to be satisfied with the care that received than unsatisfied they'd actually use it 63% less. the study team said yes. so all

yeah. look think we all agree that injustice all is not right in being a chest. yes, but, you know, we surely we've got to put some support and love towards these people that are working their beaks off . yes, that's for their beaks off. yes, that's for us all. yeah. i've never had, for example a bad experience and then and just know fact about completely the opposite. almost time. yes. i mean. well, of course everyone's experience will be different. i'd 63% it's not a particularly high number. so four out of ten people who are using the nhs aren't having are using the nhs aren't having a good experience in substance with having six 3. well with my being having six 3. well no. absolutely, absolutely. and it's very easy to trust the nhs and the full of good people, and the is full of good people, well—meaning people think well—meaning people. i think with nhs, the problem is with the nhs, the problem is more up as to conspiracy more up as opposed to conspiracy . but a lot of money is chucked at the nhs and people deserve better. people do deserve to get better. people do deserve to get better outcomes. we lag behind most countries when it most western countries when it comes to cancer survival rates . comes to cancer survival rates. as you mentioned earlier, 50,000 excess deaths. it really isn't

enough. covid last year i left dunng enough. covid last year i left during the covid pandemic. i was horrified by some of the decisions that were made during that time . it seems to me that that time. it seems to me that if you an illness that to most people would seem much more serious and covid such as cancer or heart that you had to take a back seat while everyone stayed at home and the nhs twice. and that was that was the government's policy wasn't it. so it was a government plan. the nhs thought well there was no do. it feels like we need a new beginning some. and beginning in some. yes and there's a lot of people with a lot of views on this what would a new beginning look like if you would. would being such would. it would pages being such a good start . i would. it would pages being such a good start. i think i could change one thing about the nhs and it will never happen because it's enshrined in law. all nhs monies i don't see why monies money. i don't see why can't public money with can't combine public money with private money and insurance money. there seems to be three sources of three ways you can

fund the nation's health care. and we decide as a nation to only use taxpayers money. second thing i would do if i have a second, i give more choice to patients. i would allow patients to have a choice about what gp services they use . and if you services they use. and if you allow if , you allow patients to allow if, you allow patients to have more choice, you create competition . i mean, creating competition. i mean, creating competition. i mean, creating competition creates better in my mind . i'm sympathetic to this, mind. i'm sympathetic to this, to you're saying in terms of the fact that because if the nhs ultimately a socialist hospital it is what it is quality of outcome. yeah and we and you know as it also says model that you pour a huge amount money and nobody gets anything decent of it. yes i think to humanise the front line work absolutely. but my view my personal view is i have this fantasy in my head that there is some manager somebody who hasn't done a day's work. yes. five years. you still picking up a cheque ? the nhs? picking up a cheque? the nhs? yes. we should recall all of them to london who aren't ? yes.

them to london who aren't? yes. as nurses and surgeons in worchester and all of this. anyone who's an anyone who's in an administrative role . yes. i'd administrative role. yes. i'd get them to explain what role to us. yes. and then if it's needed and the to money else. yes. and give the to money else. yes. i mean i've worked with a lot of nhs managers and they all well—intentioned and they all and good people think they're doing good things and indeed nhs actually spends less on management compared other sized companies with nhs as monolith as over a million workers actually and the percentage it spends on isn't that high. i think it's more the ideology behind the managers that creates the problem. it is a left wing collectivist that permeates all parts of the nhs, it's not just the nhs. she says in other walks of life in the public sector as well. so i would give the nhs as very much a top down organisation who should be made a bottom up organisation the way you do . and to be fair, the you do. and to be fair, the lansley reforms under david cameron, they did try and do that and they and it's been it

it hasn't succeeded. but the aim to be to give patients more choice. they talk choice, they talk a good game about choice , talk a good game about choice, but they don't see that if you give people choice, people are going to make different choices and then you're not going to have a quality of outcome. we have a quality of outcome. we have to accept people are going to make different choices and they're be worse they're going to be worse outcomes of well outcomes because of that. well well, are. kind of well, there we are. it's kind of ironic. like power to the ironic. it's like power to the people you what people. yeah, you know, what happens to the people that say power to the people. yeah, i think. thank you so much for joining my pleasure. joining me. my pleasure. thank you on.thank joining me. my pleasure. thank you on. thank you you for inviting on. thank you very right coming up, a very much. right coming up, a british—iranian citizen has been executed in iran being accused of espionage . his nephew joins of espionage. his nephew joins us from luxembourg to discuss the policy implications of such a decision and i want.

to welcome back whilst it's easy get caught up in the hysteria of social justice and mike kroger or misgendering there actually real people across the world genuinely struggling for actual bafic genuinely struggling for actual basic human rights you know the sort of things we take for granted being able to wear whatever you like . a prime whatever you like. a prime example of would be iran back in september last year , young girl september last year, young girl was arrested for the crime of refusing to wear a hijab , but refusing to wear a hijab, but simply wearing improperly, not refusing , just wearing it refusing, just wearing it improperly. she was boorish really beaten by the police , really beaten by the police, according to eyewitnesses, and died in their custody. protests erupted across country and are still ongoing. well being that lovely liberal democracy that they are decided to start executing protesters and then just two days ago, excuse you, the former government minister who also happened to be a

british citizen named ali reza akbari , contacted the iranian akbari, contacted the iranian government for comment . but government for comment. but funny enough , we didn't hear funny enough, we didn't hear back the government have sanctioned one individual. and that's about as far as it goes, unfortunately. perhaps it's time to withdraw from the ongoing iran nuclear deal talks, perhaps fast track the designation iran the armed forces, a terrorist organisation . well, joining me organisation. well, joining me now is mr. boris. brave nephew, mr. from ghana . welcome and good mr. from ghana. welcome and good evening . i'm very sorry for your evening. i'm very sorry for your loss . evening, lawrence. thank loss. evening, lawrence. thank you for having me. and thank you for the kind words and it's a very difficult time for your family. how do you feel the uk did enough to help your uncle. it was a difficult time. it's been quite shocking since tuesday evening last week when the news became public and british government went public

on the case trying to influence iran's decision on. the execution opportunity as a successful and we were made aware that saturday, we were made aware that the execution has taken place . the british has taken place. the british government's moves , terms of government's moves, terms of diplomatic activities that they did in order impact the decision. i think it was your government but how did all they could. to be honest , could. to be honest, unfortunately we are dealing with the unsavoury regime regime that has no regard has no as nothing. that's matches the today's norms in terms of human rights . on the other hand , rights. on the other hand, regime doesn't recognise dual nationality , it doesn't suit it nationality, it doesn't suit it . obviously it does recognise your nationality to a concept that now as we come to be understood as hostage. so they

take your national and they try to ensure us international politics by giving them fabricated cases and sentences . fabricated cases and sentences. and what do you think the uk can do to add , show support, do to add, show support, solidarity with the iranian protesters or should be based out of it ? this government protesters or should be based out of it? this government has already asked the shah that out of iran in london to whitehall to express the anger of british government towards what has happened. government towards what has happened . the british ambassador happened. the british ambassador has been recalled from tehran for consultation and general has already been sanctioned. he's the person that does give a death sentence as a high profile cases. death sentence as a high profile cases . so i death sentence as a high profile cases. so i think that's there . cases. so i think that's there. the moves that british government made have been strong and sufficient. but what matters from point forward is to

continue with the pressure. i think the governments shouldn't forget . what has been happening forget. what has been happening in iran for the past few months, since deaths of so many for improper . job that many many improper. job that many many iranians have been have been have been subjected to deaths and tortured for the past few months we shouldn't forget an angel nationals are waiting their sentence in the iranian prisons . i their sentence in the iranian prisons. i think a strong next step would be to permanently expel iranian diplomats from london and recall the british diplomats from the frontier want is to send a strong signal to iranian regime that this behaviour is not acceptable and britain has been harmed . we britain has been harmed. we should not forget that . and should not forget that. and until that, yes. should not forget that. and until that, yes . and the of the until that, yes. and the of the iranian people obviously is febrile at the moment and you know, we've seen protests erupt

and then calmed down. do you think that these protests that have begun again will escalate . have begun again will escalate. do you see the future of iran return to something with the resemblance of a democracy or the signs are showing that this round of protests are different . the people are fed up to be to be frank and had enough of all sorts of limitations and hardship that this regime has imposed on them the past four decades. i think this round is going to reach a point will impact the regime , hopefully impact the regime, hopefully will lead to the collapse if not they will hopefully impose some similar changes in their behaviour right, right. and then overwhelmingly do you the islamic revolution regard should be made a terror group . i mean be made a terror group. i mean what can be done here. shake up

the west to and get the west involved and onside with you in a real way rather than in a rhetorical way . the organisation rhetorical way. the organisation sanctioned was recognised a foreign terrorist organisation by the united states a few years ago during the trump administration . it was about two administration. it was about two weeks ago that the case public by one of the media outlets in the uk, that the british government is considering this as an asset as a terrorist group . they had last week in the house of commons commons a of the members of parliament expressing their interest for and the irgc as a terrorist organisation. i think it was military step because it is a malign organisation that the for the past four decades has created havoc throughout the middle east and through that has the uk and the wider and the

operations have not been limited to the middle east. we should not that they do conduct that they do conduct between the european soil, within the british soil as well . so i think british soil as well. so i think it is it is important that the uk government continues with that decision and the activities of the of the irgc . thank you so of the of the irgc. thank you so much romain. and again sorry for your loss . 30 years . your loss. 30 years. right well up next it's dan looking done. what do you got for us , laurence? good to you. for us, laurence? good to you. i'm going to continue that very fascinating debate that you had between debbie hayton and peter tatchell. they're great neil oliver is big media and he's got a lot to say about scheming

sturgeon . let me tell you . well sturgeon. let me tell you. well that's all great stuff done and coming out after the weather is the dog show you won't want to miss it . the dog show you won't want to miss it. hello, i'm aidan mcgivern from the met office. cold winds from the arctic have arrived, bringing a widespread frost snow . ice for some, but frost snow. ice for some, but also clear for many. frost snow. ice for some, but also clear for many . the frost snow. ice for some, but also clear for many. the winds at the moment. it's coming from the north and passing over , the north and passing over, well, relatively mild seas. and as that occurs, they pick up quite a number of showers. those showers affecting those areas exposed to the north, winds in northern scotland, northern ireland north—west in the north wales, continuing to snow showers overnight building up at low levels, but more significant accumulations over the hills. there's another area of showers affecting cornwall and parts of devon here , rain and sleet at devon here, rain and sleet at lower levels. snow over the hills. but either way, icy forming as the day on tuesday

begins with widespread frost and temperatures well below freezing , but away from those showery areas actually plenty of clear weather, plenty of sunshine , the weather, plenty of sunshine, the south and the east during tuesday a crisp winter. sunshine not a snowflake in sight. but in north and the northwest, further sleet and snow showers coming in. and again, that snow building up over northern hills . some patchy accumulations at lower levels as well. cold days come , 2 to 4 celsius feeling come, 2 to 4 celsius feeling even colder in the wind, which will strengthen across northern scotland as we end tuesday, bringing a spell of gales and more significant sleet and snow. i think rain at lower for shetland, orkney, the north of the mainland, but snow continuing to build the hills with blizzards in places so treacherous conditions in the north of scotland and further snow is coming to. northern ireland, western parts of england and overnight. but a widespread frost once again as we wednesday, we start of wednesday, plenty bright there, some bright weather out there, some patsy otherwise patsy cloud, but otherwise a fine day to come if you're in central and eastern parts of the uk spells further showers coming

the west and increasingly northeast england as well as eastern scotland . and then into eastern scotland. and then into thursday, the showers mainly become confined to eastern western areas. see plenty sunshine, but it stays .

cold no spin, no bias , no censorship. no spin, no bias, no censorship. i'm dan wilson and tonight, westminster has gone to war with hollyrood over gender as rishi sunak an unprecedented intervention and blocks nicola sturgeon's controversial and i think gender reform bill just by the scottish first minister's warning earlier today. i think it would an overreach in my view that no grounds to challenge this . it is that no grounds to challenge this. it is within the

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