tonight on farage, well, there may be strikes looming but growth figures a few days ago better than expected inflation down today will debate is the worst of the economic crisis behind us. we'll have look at

liz truss. she's trying overnight to launch her legacy she does it mean much will it actually work. donald trump is coming back onto twitter. that should make a bit of a noise. and joining me on talking is robert malone. now, he was the inventor of the m. r and a vaccine turned sceptic. hold onto your hats for what he has to say about that vaccine. but before all of that, let's get many is with polly mental host . many is with polly mental host. nigel thank you and good evening to you. the prime minister says he wants to ensure all serving police officers in the force are fit to serve . all police forces fit to serve. all police forces in britain will now have to double check their offices against the national police database to identify any who shouldn't be in the service. serving officer david carrick was sacked from the metropolitan police yesterday after admitting to 49 criminal charges ,

to 49 criminal charges, including 24 counts of rape against 12 women over an 18 year period. rishi sunak called the abuse of power seen in the met this week despicable and said it needed to be addressed. immediate early. i think the vetting processes have been significantly strengthened over the past couple of years and this particular individual would not have passed those. vetting process is today . but what we process is today. but what we want to do is make sure that there aren't serving police officers anywhere at any stage in their career or indeed staff in their career or indeed staff in forces who shouldn't in police forces who shouldn't be there . now, as nurses in be there. now, as nurses in england staged a two day strike, the labour leader urging the prime minister to admit the nhs is in crisis. members of the royal college of nursing from 55 nhs trusts are walking out in a long running dispute over pay and patients safety. thousands of operations and appointments are expected to be cancelled and 10,000 ambulance workers will

strike in the coming weeks as part of their ongoing dispute over pay and staffing levels. paramedics. emergency care and call handlers in the gmb union will walk out on the 6th of february and the 20th of march following what it says is no from the government and the national education union says teachers are also planning to walk out for seven days across february and march after no real progress on pay had been made for them . the rate at which for them. the rate at which pnces for them. the rate at which prices are rising has slowed for the second month in a row, but the second month in a row, but the cost some food has hit a 45 year high. the office for national statistics says the rate of inflation fell to ten and a half% in december. that's down from 10.7% the month before. it says falling fuel pnces before. it says falling fuel prices were largely behind the slowdown, with the average petrol cost down by 8.3 pence a litre since last month . now litre since last month. now a missing couple and their newborn

baby have enough cash to allow them to stay off grid . according them to stay off grid. according to police who have begun a missing persons investigation . missing persons investigation. mark gordon. constance martin and their child have been missing for 11 days. they were last seen getting into a taxi to london from essex. mr. gordon is a sex offender. while ms. martin comes from a wealthy aristocratic family. the police worry that ms. martin and the baby have not had medical attention since the birth . you attention since the birth. you up to date on tv, online and dab radio with gb news the people's channel. by now it's for thurrott . thurrott. good evening . but of course good evening. but of course there's plenty of bad news out there. it's as the media once famously said on fawlty towers strikes, strikes that we bother on the 1st of february. it's going to be the nurses. it's

going to be the nurses. it's going to be the nurses. it's going to be the teachers. it's going to be the teachers. it's going to be the teachers. it's going to be the railway drivers. and an endless list of those going on strike. there's also been this week a significant business failure, which i'll talk about over the course of the next few minutes. but guess we can't ignore the fact that the growth figures that came out a few days ago were slightly , a few days ago were slightly, albeit slightly, but they were better than expected added. inflation is beginning to fall. the prime minister, rishi sunak, tells us it will halve over the course of this year. the price of natural gas is now lower than it was this time last year, before the invasion of ukraine. is the worst of the economic crisis behind us. i'm not convinced actually that it is. i think inflation tends to be stickier than people realised . stickier than people realised. hang around for longer. the most so—called experts think . but you so—called experts think. but you know, a lot of people out there, there's a very big consensus

among many economic commentators that by the end of this year , that by the end of this year, things are going to be, well, not rosy, but better than they are now. what do you think .7 are now. what do you think? farage gb news don't uk is the worst of the crisis . it's behind worst of the crisis. it's behind us now . before i introduce our us now. before i introduce our guest, our business and economics editor liam halligan and the chancellor of the exchequer has addressed the nafion exchequer has addressed the nation about the inflation crisis. just have a look. have a listen to this . getting more listen to this. getting more expensive a year ago, it would have been around £2.50. but now it's gone up to nearly have been around £2.50. but now it's gone up to nearly £3 a cup. there are lots of reasons why inflation has risen. one of them is covid global supply chain struggled to cope and that pushed prices up . another is pushed prices up. another is putin's invasion of ukraine, which pushed global gas prices to their highest ever level. energy prices will remain high for some time , and all that for some time, and all that means that the price of a cup of

coffee has gone up . oh, dear, coffee has gone up. oh, dear, oh, dear , oh, dear. why do they oh, dear, oh, dear. why do they try to pretend they're normal human beings? they're not. they're a bunch of oxbridge weirdos, in my opinion . mary was weirdos, in my opinion. mary was the entirety of the inflation problem . nothing did you make of problem. nothing did you make of nothing to do with us whatsoever 7 nothing to do with us whatsoever ? it's all because of covid and ukraine. well joining me is somebody who is a career economist who might just have something to say about that. nothing to do with the government whatsoever. it's all because of covid in ukraine. i agree with you, nigel. the growth figure out last week was a lot better than expected though . the uk economy grew by a though. the uk economy grew by a mere 0.1. blink and you'll miss it in november. but it was better than expected. this inflation number which came out this morning, it was higher than lots of people expected in my view. inflation did come down

from 10.7% in november to 10.5% in december . still from 10.7% in november to 10.5% in december. still more than five times the bank of england's 2% target. i sort of 40 and still it was actually the 41 year high was october when it was at 11.1. but are still eye—watering numbers . and within eye—watering numbers. and within that 10.5% inflation number. food inflation up 16.9. blimey that's why when you go into tesco's and sainsbury's, other supermarkets are basically a few . you're not spending 50 quid. .you're not spending 50 quid. so basically fuel has come down. fuel has come down a bit, but it's still the rate of increase come down. fuel inflation is 11.4% in december. still very , 11.4% in december. still very, very high, but less sky high than it was. and food inflation is very, very high. than it was. and food inflation is very, very high . things like is very, very high. things like transport, buses , trains. transport, buses, trains. inflation is less . recreation, inflation is less. recreation, leather. leisure industries. inflation is a bit less , but inflation is a bit less, but still very, very high . and when still very, very high. and when inflation is still at 10.5, it's very difficult for the government to go to public sector unions and say, you don't need an inflation busting pay

rise coming down. but here's my point. yes. of course. covid supply chain disruption has had an effect on inflation. yes, of course the energy price shock that we saw after the 24th of february last year has had an effect. but here we have a conservative chancellor not admitting that borrowing and spend and creating money on a scale never seen before in the history of this country over the course of the last 14, 15 years. in fact has been a direct contributory factor to inflation . he won't even admit it live. let's be completely clear this is a cost of living crisis. but it's also cost of lockdown crisis . those supply it's also cost of lockdown crisis. those supply chain issues. were there because a wall post—lockdown pent up demand hit a world economy that could barely respond because all the supply chain discomfort if you like that cause price rises . that's why nigel british inflation was already a 30 year high in january 2022 before

vladimir putin invaded ukraine in the final of february. as you say , what i'd also say is from say, what i'd also say is from the charts . coffey a little set the charts. coffey a little set that he's being he's been dubbed mr. coffee bean as if any normal punters get their coffee from a machine like that. crikey, they put a bit of nescafe in a cup and stir , maybe with a bit of and stir, maybe with a bit of mellow, but you're right, i thought it was contrived and looked a bit crazy. but what he didn't mention when he was describing why there is inflation, is the fact that dunng inflation, is the fact that during the covid lockdown , the during the covid lockdown, the bank of england created more money under its quantitative schemes , 18 months of lockdown schemes, 18 months of lockdown than it had during the ten years after the 2008 nine financial crisis . so we created the bank crisis. so we created the bank of england around 400 billion. that's b 4 billion, 4000 million. it'sjust that's b 4 billion, 4000 million. it's just off the charts . that money. it's when charts. that money. it's when it's the government or deny the bank of england that money was

used to fund furlough , to fund used to fund furlough, to fund business support schemes making lockdown happen and that money unlike the post financial crisis, qe stayed largely within the financial system, ramping up share prices at an up—market house prices . that post—covid qe house prices. that post—covid qe money went directly into the bank of firms and households. that's why i think it is a significant part of this inflation story . but almost inflation story. but almost nobody in the mainstream media wants to talk about it because qe has friends in high places in city of london and also in whitehall because it means ministers can borrow absolute more cheaply and they otherwise would. now we've got obviously going on right across the public sector, one or two in the private sector as well. i quite understand why no wants a pay increase less than inflation , increase less than inflation, but there are things called the facts our . the sector. facts of what our. the sector. what are those pay increases up?

okay. so overall pay rises dunng okay. so overall pay rises during the last. okay. so overall pay rises during the last . three months of during the last. three months of 2020 to the average pay was 6.5% higher than the last three months of 2021 that had line wage increase was , the highest wage increase was, the highest since 2001. and yet was completely blown away by inflation because of it high inflation. real wages . that inflation. real wages. that penod inflation. real wages. that period the last few months of last year compared to the year before were 3.4, down. that's the biggest fall in real wages post inflation since 2009. you have headline wage rises and headune have headline wage rises and headline headline wage falls at the same time. yeah, because that's what inflation does . now, that's what inflation does. now, breaking down that six and a half% pay rise that we had , half% pay rise that we had, private sector workers on average got a 7.1% pay rise. and pubuc average got a 7.1% pay rise. and public sector workers got a 3.3% pay public sector workers got a 3.3% pay rise. now a lot of public

sector unions will say, you see, it's really unfair because the pubuc it's really unfair because the public sector gets less. but still, nigel and i found these figures on the website and they're pretty hard to find. the average public sector wage is still higher than the average private sector wage and the pensions are the sick leave and the bigger holiday entitlement and the flexibility and the job security . and the public sector security. and the public sector workers during the lockdown. in fact, sarcastically not take a pay fact, sarcastically not take a pay cut. they weren't fat , were pay cut. they weren't fat, were furloughed on 100% wages. the rest of us were furloughed. if we were lucky, not self—employed people. i believe about 80. the civil service go on strike as well as the 1st of february. who would a final, final thought. bofis would a final, final thought. boris told us we will boris johnson told us we will build . a gigafactory in build. a gigafactory in northumberland creating thousands of jobs that our industrial heartland and housing electric vehicle production as part of our green and rail revolution. how's it looking ? revolution. how's it looking? this is a very, very interesting story . and actually, after this story. and actually, after this show, i'm getting on a train to go show, i'm getting on a train to 9° up show, i'm getting on a train to go up to the north—east of

england to film on story, talked to many, many people in the all day tomorrow and i'll be talking about it on gb news live and creating a film britishvolt is a start—up that was meant to be building the big east car battery factory in britain. not a conventional car battery that runs the windscreen in the start of the big batteries for electric vehicles , they had electric vehicles, they had a £100 million government credit line consent on raising private sector money. the private sector money just isn't so the company has folded and that raises questions about carmaking in the north—east of england, our biggest car making class the bigger now than the midlands because unless you've got the batteries being made near the cars as we move to electric vehicles, you can't make the cars because the batteries are so expensive and the transport is. so i want you to report back to what you find . piece of to us on what you find. piece of advice all you at home. advice for all of you at home. if johnson gives you a big if boris johnson gives you a big tip as to what's going to happen to the commercial company,

please not follow it. it end please do not follow it. it end in now liz truss, 45 days in tears. now liz truss, 45 days and gone but a think tank has been launched in her honour. could this be yet another division within the conservative party ? we'll discuss that in party? we'll discuss that in just a moment moment.

so some of your thoughts home. do you think the worst of the economic crisis is behind ? the economic crisis is behind? the prime minister is encouraging you to think so. i'm a little bit sceptical. let's see what you think, david. food inflation is running at 16.9. don't hang up the bunting just yet. well very good. well, it's a caution , i think, david. andy says inflation , doesn't take into inflation, doesn't take into account food or . others above

account food or. others above 10. it also doesn't take account the extra costs of ripping up brexit laws , which will cause brexit laws, which will cause businesses to drive up prices that the objects the opposite actually but or if russia or china decide to escalate things and the idea of getting rid of the eu regulation is actually to make things cheaper and easier. however, one of the reasons that i am less optimistic than this great consensus that exists amongst the investment experts in and new york is history has told me the once you have inflation it's stickier it stays around for longer than anyone thinks. the second is going to be honest with i do not think we have seen the worst in ukraine by far and the impact that may have on food inflation in particular and perhaps energy too. i don't think people are really calculated in the markets. that's my view. i'm sorry if i sound a little bit pessimist , sorry if i sound a little bit pessimist, but that is my fear. and finally , phil says, i think and finally, phil says, i think the worst is behind us , but

the worst is behind us, but inflation and growth must top of the government agenda and to get the government agenda and to get the cost of immigration by blocking them coming in. well okay, growth . that was what phil okay, growth. that was what phil talked about. what about the talked about. what about the talk about growth? we really, really are. now, liz truss , i really are. now, liz truss, i mean, who would have believed yvette that liz truss could become prime minister ? but she become prime minister? but she did add couple of bright sparks. harry from the sale and james hale who joins me now from the spectator . and i heard quite on spectator. and i heard quite on they were doing a truss biography at the title they chose ups lutely brilliant out of the blue i thought really good because it just works at every level and i thought james welcome the way to the programme i thought well this is going to be an absolute winner. you you're on this nobody else is a 45 days and she was gone. how's the book doing? it's doing all right. thank you. it really timely as well,

right. thank you. it really timely as well , because, you timely as well, because, you know, after a bit of time away from the spotlight last night, there was a meeting of this new group which erm this is involved with. well that's right. so you know i was thinking well 45 days she's gone, she turned up at the cenotaph, she's been pretty quiet, she's i've personally been through a pretty humiliating what have you talk about politics it's been very tough for her so just tell us what happened last night. sure so i think you're right. as you say, you know, after ten years in government and not had houday in government and not had holiday when she was the minister for ten years, it was a sort of period out in the sun. and then yesterday parliament sat back and there sat out back and there was a launch, a quite low key launch of the conservative growth group with supporters. with some of her supporters. ruth's because ruth's group exactly. because i think bit concern think there's a bit of concern is after did not take, is that after she did not take, it took over. there's been less of on economic, more of an emphasis on economic, more about balancing the books. so this a of around 40 or this is a group of around 40 or so employees to kind so employees who want to kind keep flame going and also keep that flame going and also try some policies which try and get some policies which are stimulate the are going to stimulate the economy ahead of the next

election. well, they election. well, you don't they believe in low taxes, but a small state. it depends who you ask. i'd say, nigel, i think that it's going to very that it's going to be very interesting to see how the group operates budget operates coming up to the budget in are the in march. who are the significant players in the group? ronald group? in the group, ronald jayawardene simon clarke are jayawardene and simon clarke are both ministers both cabinet ministers under truss. think this is truss. yeah, and i think this is up. got a formal position up. has got a formal position within but it's part within the group, but it's part of series of a wider series of initiatives. some clarke is also launching the next tories, which is we can over the is about how we can win over the other the party can win over other 40. the party can win over under 40 on childcare under 40 things on childcare planning, deregulation, etc. like part of like that. so it's part of a sort of wider moving picture. and you then got boris and of course you then got boris johnson last week johnson as well. and last week he was going to come to him in a second, it's a second, but just it's just a sort final thought on trust, if i may, on our own. so is think tank that it emphasises growth. is sense her legacy? is this in a sense her legacy? i wouldn't say it's more a wouldn't say it's a it's more a pressure group. okay. and i think this is because you've got a of 70 or in a majority of 70 or so in parliament. but of course, as you've sunak is you've seen, rishi sunak is willing to kind of back down on certain and you saw that certain things. and you saw that in hours. i think the

in those 48 hours. i think the end of last year when they had the planning targets end of last year when they had the then planning targets end of last year when they had the then the planning targets end of last year when they had the then the u—turn ng targets end of last year when they had the then the u—turn ng onshore and then the u—turn on onshore wind due to an amendment which bofis wind due to an amendment which boris johnson and liz truss signed. that if you signed. i that shows that if you get group you can get a group together you can sort of it's a party of interests of interests instead of the factions moving a certain factions of moving a certain way. i think the hope is you can get a growth, get a kind of growth, a pro—growth faction, if you will, that that's going to kind of push the government to doing that that's going to kind of push pro—growth|ent to doing that that's going to kind of push pro—growth policies.)ing more pro—growth policies. now, obviously, more pro—growth policies. now, obvitosly, more pro—growth policies. now, obvito bring stability. i mean, was to bring stability. i mean, as i see it, stability in policy failure. but never mind that things are calmer than they were, yet got were, and yet you've got the bofis were, and yet you've got the boris faction up the new boris faction setting up the new democratic lord democratic organising lord cruddas big chequebook cruddas with a big chequebook behind it, looking for quite sort of almost tony bennett type changes within the conservative and boris for many , not as many and boris for many, not as many as it was , but for many is, you as it was, but for many is, you know, sort it's rather like the jacobites it's with toast. it's the king across the water. and they believe that boris can come back and lead them to great success. but it is interesting that there is a trust group as

well who believe the party become, you know, too high tax, too big state, and then you the regime, it's so the point at rishi was to unite the party. i'm i am am i wrong to think there are now three separate camps of mp i think that the world is that's used and so the dangeri world is that's used and so the danger i think that some of the trusts and so there is that there was a kind of overcorrection after rishi that came in and they said okay well we've stabilised everything the markets but markets have calmed down, but we've far a kind we've gone too far into a kind of consensus and actually of soft consensus and actually challenging vested challenging some vested interests on these things. i think what is clear is that think that what is clear is that the effect is more the boris johnson effect is more personal. people nadine personal. i people like nadine dorries man back dorries just want their man back because regardless of because it works regardless of anything. basically that's it. whereas trust more whereas i think trust is more about policy. i think in fairness they're trying to say this like. the this stuff like. the conservative group isn't conservative growth group isn't about, anti about, you know, being anti sunak, course it sunak, etc, but of course it comes down to votes in parliament, that. so parliament, etc. like that. so one thing. we can one can read these thing. we can one can read these thing. we can one read. they may not be

one can read. they may not be a.s. it's probably anti a.s. but it's probably anti jeremy well, that jeremy hunt. well, that might well, see and come well, we'll see that and come out to the budget you know i think ready to sort report down some the press there's some of the press that there's going to be no tax cuts in that. well, that's not obviously what some the party would some within the party would like. what like. and why that's not what they consider themselves be they consider themselves to be conservatives. i did conservatives. i mean, i did an interview two ago with interview two weeks ago with simon clarke and. he said, you know, not conservative, know, i am not a conservative, i'm thatcherite that's what i'm a thatcherite that's what this has taught this last year has taught me. yeah. that a really yeah. and that is a really interesting of the debate interesting kind of the debate on who should be on who should they be campaigning bizarre campaigning for and how bizarre getting this book how getting back to this book how did woman who always did this woman who had always been centre centre left and been the centre centre left and well i mean before think about her but into adulthood her growing but into adulthood and university yes you know she'd been an active liberal democrat she'd want to get rid of the queen, lib dem prime minister, you know, i mean well and suddenly from a remainer what are these damascene conversion come from? i think all politicians it to a certain extent and in parties but i think also a pragmatic an ability to survive and a kind of

ambition and drive which i think set her apart. she was able to do the long hours, do the kind of travelling for trade and that's what really i think sold her a lot of people. and her to a lot of people. and i think it was a party that sort of it was her or rishi there was some johnson nights. you'd never get put get over that fact. they put their faction behind her and that a kind of key that really a kind of key difference leadership difference in that leadership contest. were at the contest. you were there at the spectator. yeah. you know, a magazine tries the magazine that tries to move the boundanes magazine that tries to move the boundaries debate in terms of boundaries of debate in terms of conservative thinking and i know you know you're not the editor but the spectator think the tories have even half a chance at the next election? i think it's to difficult the it's going to difficult the fundamental interest going fundamental interest rates going up. how that's going up. you look at how that's going to you you know, 15, to affect you see, you know, 15, 20 point labour leads in the polls. i think the danger is that mini budget might have that the mini budget might have been black wednesday been a bit of a black wednesday moment. bit where it moment. you know a bit where it crystallise voters move crystallise and voters move minds. the mood has changed. they think actually labour they think that actually labour could these could be more credible these things it'll be a tough road that you around that some you speak to around rishi 10. do you rishi sunak number 10. do you

think a way do it? think there's a way to do it? i think there's a way to do it? i think there's a way to do it? i think there's five promises, he says. possible, going says. possible, but he's going be a long to see, so we will wait and with interest to wait and see with interest to see if he can it off. well, see if he can pull it off. well, you ten years ago were you know, ten years ago were more than that, but know exactly ten years ago i was leading a ukip insurgency against the conservative didn't conservative party that didn't feel conservative. conservative party that didn't fee example, servative. conservative party that didn't fee example, broughte. conservative party that didn't fee example, brought in gay for example, brought in gay marriage without even having a manifesto to it. manifesto commitment to do it. one clear example, they'd one very clear example, they'd mad energy, onshore mad for wind energy, onshore wind at the not very wind at the time, not very popular, in popular, not really promised in the and there was the manifesto. and there was a ukip insurgency, the front and the life out of the conservatives in force. cameron into offering referendum that into offering a referendum that he never he never ever wanted to do that know for obvious do that you know for obvious reasons that reform at the moment i'm the honorary president i'm not involved there . another there is there is another insurgency , isn't there? another insurgency, isn't there? i think that it's if you get 6 to 7 said at the polls, which they're currently on that is going to harm conservatives more than labour. and it's than it is labour. and it's going be interesting going to be very interesting compared to, say, 2019, when, of course brexit party stepped course the brexit party stepped down. is a sense

down. i think there is a sense of the conservative activists, citizens, and citizens, anger among some, and i be damaging i think that could be damaging to party. maybe not. now to the party. maybe not. so now in year or so, but in in the next year or so, but in opposition, that'll be very interesting. think the interesting. and i think the first post sunak first kind of post sunak leadership very leadership election will be very interesting. happens interesting. see what happens there guess that there and likely, i guess that there and likely, i guess that the election doesn't the general election doesn't happen until run towards the happen until we run towards the end 2024. i think that's the end of 2024. i think that's the assumption most are operating on. yes, think it's very to on. yes, i think it's very to see if you look at those promises you set out, you know, inflation years inflation coming down, his years to that you want small to achieve that you want small boats crisis with as boats crisis to deal with as well. i time is what well. i think time is what there's to with that as there's got to deal with that as we think it'll be we i mean think it'll be interesting to think it's interesting to see i think it's more small measures. i think the rwanda scheme, for instance, which we've discussed rwanda scheme, for instance, which this we've discussed rwanda scheme, for instance, which this we'vejudy,1ssed rwanda scheme, for instance, which this we'vejudy, is ed rwanda scheme, for instance, which this we'vejudy, is not around this before, judy, is not going to work in the way the it was promised as silver bullet was promised as a silver bullet by johnson. but i think by boris johnson. but i think that depends obviously that it depends obviously how the things in the coalition spin things in terms has promised and terms of he has promised and it's there on conservative it's there on the conservative party manifesto website rather stop the boats, stop of stop the boats, not stop of the boats. the stop boats. well, this was the stop the that press conference the boats that press conference and government as and putting the government as obviously headline figure obviously the headline figure

and uke obviously the headline figure and like when you and then it's like when you claim victory, etc. with the policy so we will see how whether it be enough for you, nigel. felix well, we'll have to see. james see. final thought. yeah james hale, are there any prince harry style revelations in here ? some style revelations in here? some fun stuff i'll say from from various bits of his career. the dot stands a good wild ride but said nothing about elizabeth arden cream. i'll say that i thank goodness for that. james hill , thank you very much. and hill, thank you very much. and liz truss looking for her political legacy . we'll take political legacy. we'll take a short .

break in the course of the last week , in the course of the last week, there have been public meetings that are taking place at creighton in northampton cheshire. cottingham up in east yorkshire and both have been protests, albeit very, very quiet english protest at large

of young males who cross the engush of young males who cross the english channel being put into asylum seeker either hotels , asylum seeker either hotels, manor houses or student accommodation . but in ireland accommodation. but in ireland this is on a whole different taylor last year in ireland, 70,000 and asylums came into the country . now bear in mind, they country. now bear in mind, they only have a population of just over 5 million and the irish are protesting tonight at 5:00, another protest on the east wall in dublin . that's the second in dublin. that's the second protest that's happened in that area. i was told across the whole of ireland last weekend there were five separate protests and. the strength of feeling , the passion, the feeling, the passion, the language that is being used is much stronger than anything we've seen thus far in england and wales. and it's very , very and wales. and it's very, very much, you know, we are not going away as protesters until these

sites are closed . watch this sites are closed. watch this space.i sites are closed. watch this space. i have a feeling that immigration and asylum in ireland is about to become a very major political issue . now very major political issue. now what the farage moment these people drive to total distraction . her name is distraction. her name is professor japp distraction. her name is professorjapp and she's the bus of the food standards agency. but speaking in a personal capacity , she said it's quite capacity, she said it's quite wrong that people bring cakes into the office. yes, cakes on their birthdays. or perhaps someone's made something at home. no, don't put temptation before me . i can't manage it. before me. i can't manage it. and she compared it to passive smoke in pubs in the good old days when we used be allowed to smoke in pubs and i just loathed like professor jebb, she doesn't

like professorjebb, she doesn't want us to eat cake or to smoke or to drink or to do anything . or to drink or to do anything. she wants us to preserve ourselves . for those last few ourselves. for those last few bonus years where we're incapable of controlling any of our bodily functions. and there we are in, the old people's home. i am sick to death of these puritan eyes wanting to literally control every aspect of our lives . so please shut up of our lives. so please shut up , 90 of our lives. so please shut up , go away. do your job. we're , go away. do yourjob. we're not interested. we find you very boring. and to all of you , if it boring. and to all of you, if it is your birthday don't work from home take some cake into the office . now a big significant in office. now a big significant in the usa tonight and this is politically very significant donald trump in 2016 and 2015 for that matter. but in 2016, he got to where he did by the relentless use of twitter . it relentless use of twitter. it was through twitter and building up to over 80 million followers

that he was able to put his messages out and literally to set the agenda for the days, the weeks , the months, national weeks, the months, national debate in the usa and often across the rest of the western world to well . it's been world to well. it's been announced tonight that donald trump is rejoining twitter and facebook. now, facebook not as important for trump, facebook. now, facebook not as important for trump , never important for trump, never focussed very hard on facebook , focussed very hard on facebook, but trump back on twitter. it'll drive the left absolutely crazy . it's manna from heaven for the media in america and let's just say, you know, i've got a feeling i've got a feeling that trump will once again use twitter very effectively and start to dominate the agenda we'll see whether i'm right, whether i'm wrong, but without doubt, it is a very significant moment now . ever since covid 19 moment now. ever since covid 19 first hove into view, there have

been all sorts arguments about what medical treatments are acceptable for covid, what we're allowed to talk about , not talk allowed to talk about, not talk about the vaccines . of course, about the vaccines. of course, the boosters, which we've all been told we absolutely have one at the moment, onto skin pods. i'm joined by a man who's been involved with vaccine development way back into the early 1980s, and he's become pretty sceptical about the vaccine. and unlike trump, he too has been banned from twitter . he's back on twitter now as is the former president. in a moment , talk to robert malone . moment, talk to robert malone. coming up on dan wootton tonight or harry and meghan. threats to freedom of speech. royal biographer tom babbel weighs in. and meghan's estranged sister, samantha markle, gives her first review of spare is virgin exploiting vulnerable children to force through independence ? to force through independence? westminster's toughest talking

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it's talking pints. yes, it's my favourite time of the day. you all know that. and i'm joined today by robert marlow. robert welcome to the program . now welcome to the program. now you've held all sorts of posts over the years . you like some over the years. you like some very senior posts in biotech and medical advice and all of these

things you were working on the rna or as it became an rna vaccine going right back, almost going back 40 years. i mean , going back 40 years. i mean, yeah, it was a little moment of time when i was a young man, 28, working at the sorkin's attitude, and i had no , it was attitude, and i had no, it was not absolutely not intention to go there . it was just a go there. it was just a by—product of trying to build a system to ask some basic science questions about retro viruses. one thing led to another i wanted to be a gene therapist . i wanted to be a gene therapist. i wanted to be a gene therapist. i wanted to be a gene therapist. i wanted to cure paediatric disease and, you know, genetic disease and, you know, genetic disease . and this this whole disease. and this this whole cascade of things happen , you cascade of things happen, you know, this is the right place at the right time. you know , you the right time. you know, you can put all the pretty words around, you know , well informed around, you know, well informed and surrounded by, genius and all that. but it just kind of happened a ping pong thing and i had enough back round in vaccinology because i kind of

cut my teeth in the aids business at uc davis and then it all kind of came together as a whole new idea that gene therapy really going to work because the immune and so then you're sitting there okay what's what are you going to do with this and the answer was, well, you make lemonade of lemons and you can use gene therapy. tech and use this rna as a drug in particular to generate a different type vaccine. and that was that's the essence . i think was that's the essence. i think it's fair to say that that that you are the inventor of this. so that's that's obviously something that's been contentious to be tested quite a bit . and the press that has bit. and the press that has contested it never cites the nine patents. and they cite the original invention disclosure . original invention disclosure. so the way i've come to kind of try to strike a compromise with

all of this is to say that i created platform technology, the original platform technology. and the ideas for how to use it and not that the press has you don't have sometimes they will grab on to the put words in your mouth or grab onto a concern and then they'll attack you for the straw man. i know you case a common strategy so. yeah. so that you know the assertion i was claiming that i invented these are the ones either way. either way. you were a significant part in the development of this. now we fast forward a few years and we're that a new virus has emerged in china . of course you know no one china. of course you know no one i mean not for a moment. then would you say it could have come from a lab? but i'm not going to go there. so, yeah, it's because that's a whole separate debate . that's a whole separate debate. what i found really interesting from the beginning . yeah, was from the beginning. yeah, was there were lots of medical, respected medical people

suggesting there were ways of treating covid know people have got this capability . people can got this capability. people can be very, very ill and people can die of it. there's no question about that. i mean, we know in this country, the average age of death, 82, i think i meant the average age of death from covid was what, 83? yeah, yeah. i yeah. mean, look, you know , we yeah. i mean, look, you know, we know that is it. but to not underplay it. yeah, that's not to fun of it . okay. to make fun of it. okay. absolute respect for families that have lost in such tragedy . that have lost in such tragedy. but it seemed here in this country that the treatment was you put you in a hospital, make you put you in a hospital, make you comfortable. and if things really bad, put you on a ventilator from which you were, chances are coming back were very, very good. but were people out there suggesting that there were drugs early , like were drugs early, like ivermectin etc? hydrox that's a quote. i mean, i'm hearing all these theories now. i couldn't work out without medical knowledge whether these were all crap shots whether there was

crap shots or whether there was some validity in it. but how it why was anybody that dared to suggest any of these remedies ? suggest any of these remedies? why were they literally shut down, talked by the world health organisation , what was going on organisation, what was going on so ? we can speculate, which so? we can speculate, which i tried not to do. i try to remain fact based. i want to see the receipts before i make assertions and not make wild hype. assertions and not make wild hype . you know, claims about hype. you know, claims about conspiracies , things like that. conspiracies, things like that. one of the fascinate things with what's being revealed in the twitter files now is we're starting to get the answer that and one of the recent drops involves scott gottlieb, former fda commissioner that went straight into being after a two month respite. i think it was straight into being a board member for pfizer and in the twitter , we now have the twitter, we now have the documents, the receipts that scott gottlieb was directly interacting with twitter to suppress stories and information and persons . the

suppress stories and information and persons. the most fascinating being that he won . fascinating being that he won. a former assistant secretary of health and human services is pretty high rank third down president had suggested in a tweet that natural immunity was quite effective and got intervened with this tweet from brett giroir and got it suppressed and labelled and gottlieb status as a former commissioner was two or three ranks but as you say of debate was happening and that's now and musk has made very very clear and good that you're back on twitter, as well as the former. i've been victim of tiny fish bodies for the i mean , let's be bodies for the i mean, let's be frank about it. the vaccine comes very early on, very quickly, we're told it's the great saviour, which all we have to have it. yeah, we're

terrified into having it. we're then bullied into having boosters in most extraordinary way . at what point did you way. at what point did you become about this vaccine so at the very beginning i did a threat assessment and the group that i was working with, i got them focussed on repurposed drugs . the what them focussed on repurposed drugs. the what i them focussed on repurposed drugs . the what i became really drugs. the what i became really sceptical about earliest was bioethics of how this was being handled . and then when handled. and then when a canadian ph.d. obtained , the canadian ph.d. obtained, the common technical document, the dossier pfizer had submitted to the japanese government to justify proceeding with this product , and justify proceeding with this product, and i was asked to review it. i see there that all of the norms that i had been trained on for decades had been disregarded and that data had

been rant, it seemed as if it was randomly pulled whatever drawer they had it in assembled to create thing to justify moving forward, which is completely different the established norms and then we start to see and let's face all vaccines have harms all vaccines all all drugs have harms . okay all all drugs have harms. okay then i find i get that very interestingly the there's a lot of speculation about you know athletes about you know my card itis about this young man and yet you know imperial college london tell us that the vaccines save 10 million lives across the world right the world health organisation tell us the national health service , us, national health service, us, everyone sticks to this narrative. yeah. that the harms are almost ensing live again. so what i want to ask you, robert, is, you know, you have said there are potentially quite serious harms from this, the data or the data. how is it your right in there? all wrong . are

right in there? all wrong. are you asking in the present or are you asking in the present or are you asking in the present or are you asking the press or you know, in the present you're you're asking why malone. yes. are you saying these things when you've been saying the established narrative is otherwise. yeah . i, i don't have otherwise. yeah. i, i don't have a good answer for that. all i can say is that i've remained fact based database first in, in i believe, objective and haven't had any particular financial conflicts , interest or conflicts, interest or organisational conflicts interest. so i've been at liberty to call it like i see it. are you suggesting that other people have had financial of interest. this is fundamental principle in everything is we all have conflicts of interest and the question is are we able to manage them adequately in? so now for instance that we're anticipating in the united states a major upcoming acp, this is the advisory committee immunisation practises at the

cdc meeting in a few weeks now and suddenly we're seeing all kinds of cracks in the wall with people that previously were very, very bullish on these products suddenly coming out and saying hey , we have reservations saying hey, we have reservations now there's that was hidden from us . this new now there's that was hidden from us. this new information that's coming out. there's this cleveland clinic study that's a massive study that shows that your risk of getting disease and being hospitalised increases with the number inoculations . with the number inoculations. i'm choosing my words. okay yeah and so ask how is it that i'm right and they're wrong . i kind right and they're wrong. i kind of don't like that synthesis . i of don't like that synthesis. i would say the data are the data and i have been bold at times in in drawing conclusions from the data, but it's always been notoriously on ingram . two notoriously on ingram. two winters ago at christmas time, i

said it looked like omicron was kind of going to be a christmas gift and we were all going to basically get a live attenuated vaccine whether or not we want it. oh, i remember you say breathe and everybody was shocked, but that's exactly way it's happened. i've forgotten this journey. it's happened. i've forgotten thisjourney. i've it's happened. i've forgotten this journey. i've become more and more sceptical and more concerned about the closing down of debate as this period of time has gone by. all you concerned about long term harms from the vaccine vaccine ? the answer is vaccine vaccine? the answer is yes and don't see how anybody that's if you are a credible developer per product developer in this space with vaccines , you in this space with vaccines, you have to have the humility to recognise that there are always long term and you will not know whether or not they're going to manifest until they do, which is why it normally takes a decade. but in this case like for instance, here your greenroom, we have my good friend, dr. ryan

cole , who is a pathologist, has cole, who is a pathologist, has been seeing, as he say, the cells don't lie. he's seeing on his glass slides, evidence of unusual behaviour and cancers. and he's kind of been a canary in the coal mine saying, hey guys, this looks like a potential risk. and this how medicine in one of the things ryan and i haven't common is we're both pathology agents in training i taught pathology for many years and pathologists have always been kind of the quality control medicine and we're trained to kind of do signal to look for patterns. yeah and when they happen to say , hey, looks they happen to say, hey, looks like something's going on, we ought to investigate that further. and that's that's what that's we're seeing those signals and i hope they don't manifest . signals and i hope they don't manifest. i'm delighted we're doing this. i would drink need we need one to cheer us up. i think you know i have to say i have to say thank you for us. you've been very brave speaking out. you've been cast out by many as a pariah, but you've done what you believe to be

right. and i you coming on right. and i you for coming on the program. it's my pleasure. any thank thank you . any time. thank you. thank you. well, we're pretty much out of time. mary asks me . there's talk time. mary asks me. there's talk of johnson making a comeback . of johnson making a comeback. you think he can do it? well, mary , i tell you what, he's got mary, i tell you what, he's got his fans . as i said, it's rather his fans. as i said, it's rather like bonnie prince, charlie. they sort of drink across the glass, the king across the water, but he's going to come back. and some people love him but gosh, he's upset quite few people with series of people as well with a series of broken i don't think broken promises. i don't think he come but hey, he's he can come back, but hey, he's going enjoy life writing going to enjoy life writing books and speaking in america. we're for the day. i'm back with the at 7:00 and handover now to lawrence . good evening nigel . lawrence. good evening nigel. tonight we will be talking trans traffic and whether they should be allowed to eat cake. the first weather event alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office. it's

cold, frosty again overnight and for much of tomorrow, most places not seeing any showers. but where we are seeing showers, they are a wintry mix of sleet, snow and hail. low pressure just edging away from the east. winds still coming down from the north. a subtle shift in the wind direction bringing more showers into north wales and northwest england. so some snow possible here and things could turn icy . we have a number of turn icy. we have a number of met office yellow warnings in place for snow and icy place for snow and, ice and icy conditions. also possible across the england for the south—west of england for many and eastern parts many central and eastern parts is just dry and clear and cold. minus two. minus three to start the day. that's in towns and rural spots . lower so a frosty rural spots. lower so a frosty start to thursday . still some start to thursday. still some sleet and snow showers for north—west england, north wales, northern ireland and more snow coming in to northern. although here maybe a little bit more to rain, certainly close to coast. there'll be a wind here, but elsewhere out of the winds, temperatures struggling up above freezing three or four degrees

for most in the afternoon. in the sunny, spells quickly, temperatures dropping back below, freezing through tomorrow evening. so again a fairly extensive frost still some showers for north wales, northern ireland and particularly northeastern scotland. so again, ice is likely to be a hazard on friday morning. fog is also likely dense patches of freezing across parts of northern england, northwest and northern ireland. that could last for most of friday, but most of us on friday just dry , fine and sunny. a just dry, fine and sunny. a bright , crisp winter's with bright, crisp winter's with temperatures stumbling up a degree or so still below average , but actually with little breeze in the sunshine, it shouldn't feel too bad. 5 to 6 celsius. so the cold weather is persisting. sun is of a change slowly. and i do mean slowly. milder air creeping in from the west, although the east will stay cold right through the weekend .

good evening, friends. it's 8:00. and i'm laurence fox . we 8:00. and i'm laurence fox. we have an action packed wild show for you today. have an action packed wild show for you today . coming up as for you today. coming up as a school report concerned parent to social services for the crime of raising questions about gender identity. we'll be discussing whether it's the state's right to get involved . state's right to get involved. these matters at all later on. following on from our discussion yesterday about getting outside for the sake of our own mental health, we'll be talking to psychotherapist j. thomas and all a fan of sedate, calm? all you a fan of sedate, calm? no i mean, yes. no, i'm not. and his new expansion of ulez . or his new expansion of ulez. or perhaps you don't live in london and couldn't care less. well, no traffic policies are spreading