good evening . this is laurence good evening. this is laurence fox. only it's not dawn neesom. he's not even identifying with me. i've just turned up another lanky blonde for you. any case , lanky blonde for you. any case, tonight, i will be taking on the great food bank debate. i'm going there . all the claims. going there. all the claims. someone . £35,000 a year. true someone. £35,000 a year. true but they have to go on food bank . i'll be picking that one apart. then i'll be speaking to conservative mp ali anderson about levelling up. or is it love him or levelling sideways?

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the workers across england, wales and northern ireland are walking out in a long running dispute over pay and staffing . dispute over pay and staffing. ukraine's volodymyr zelenskyy has been holding talks with 50 western nations in germany today to garner further support in their fight against russia . kyiv their fight against russia. kyiv have requested 300 tanks. the us announced a further have requested 300 tanks. the us announced a furthe r £2 billion announced a further £2 billion worth of support for ukraine, while the uk has said it will provide 14 challenger tanks . provide 14 challenger tanks. meanwhile, germany have yet to make a decision on whether they send tanks to the war torn country . the us defence country. the us defence secretary , lloyd austin, secretary, lloyd austin, commended the uk agreeing to supply challenge to tax a new report into england's fire unrest . rescue services says unrest. rescue services says reforms are needed as a matter of urgency . the watchdog says of urgency. the watchdog says just two of the six recommended actions made by the chief inspector have been fulfilled and an annual report, the chief inspector, andy kirk, says he's

frustrated at the lack of progress made since inspections beganin progress made since inspections began in 2018. but the chief fire officer at leicester fire and rescue callum faint said his comfort in the force is improving . the met police improving. the met police commissioner, sir mark rowley , commissioner, sir mark rowley, has promised a thorough review of the force's culture and standards in an effort to root out corrupt officers such as former officer david carrick. mr. rowley said the next two years are critical to achieving our goals, including assurances such as investing in diversity to become an anti—racist organisation. it comes as the national police chiefs council urging police chiefs right across and wales to have all officers checked against national databases by the end of march . the prime minister has march. the prime minister has been given a fixed penalty nofice been given a fixed penalty notice by lancashire police for failing to wear a seatbelt whilst in the back of a moving car . the prime whilst in the back of a moving car. the prime minister was filming a social media clip on

his way to yesterday's levelling up announcement in the north—west. he's already apologised with his spokesman , apologised with his spokesman, saying he made an error of judgement in the last few minutes and a statement by downing street. they say mr. sunak will comply with the fine to support tv online and the 80 plus radio show with gb news not back to doing . back to doing. well. we made it . it's friday well. we made it. it's friday night. the working weakest on time to have some fun out on. but not so fast because i'm here to warn you a very scary new problem we're all facing . i problem we're all facing. i guess you could call it a new pandemic, if you like. it's one that causes frothing at the mouth, a red blotchy face, and terrible incontinence of the verbal kind. even there's no

known cure. it's the pesky plague. or rather, the self—pity plague. or rather, the self—pity plague where absolutely nothing is your fault. and there is always someone else to blame. god knows quite where this cult of victimhood actually started, but it's spreading faster than covid a bat bothering chinese laboratory . the high priest of laboratory. the high priest of the plague the blame game is, of course , just checking my notes course, just checking my notes here. oh, yeah? how can we forget prince harry and mine? and i'm using that term rather loosely, who has no shame when it comes to absolving himself of all responsibility for anything and everything is ever done . and everything is ever done. sex. drugs. uniform homes. dodgy women . the las vegas strip of women. the las vegas strip of miss naked pool days. not the mrs. obviously . nothing. repeat. mrs. obviously. nothing. repeat. absolutely nothing has ever been harry's fault. but while we can over a bloke who winds about having a smaller bedroom than his big bro despite it being in

a palace , petty plague is a palace, petty plague is actually quite serious. tight. today's obesity crisis, for example , two thirds of brits are example, two thirds of brits are overweight . that's 26% without overweight. that's 26% without dangerous side . our kids are fat dangerous side. our kids are fat before they even leave primary school. but hey, why? type response before our own health when we can blame someone else, especially a tory government . especially a tory government. how dare they force us to eat fast food and takeaways and cake. same with exercise. you'd really need to be as thick as a mince not to realise keeping active helps health even if it's going for a walk . active helps health even if it's going for a walk. but active helps health even if it's going for a walk . but no, we going for a walk. but no, we actually live a society where we expect doctors to prescribe exercise or we can't possibly do it and if our kids are hideous brats, it's not our fault as mums and dads is it. no, it's a school . what's that about? school. what's that about? schools are there to teach english, maths , history, etc. english, maths, history, etc. not for surrogate parents. the list is endless. look.

not for surrogate parents. the list is endless . look. okay, list is endless. look. okay, let's take jobs that don't pay enough. even though we don't want to get another one to work over time by the saving or cut in a class. no again? no. no. personal response being involved at all. likewise, the dreaded food bank debate where workers on above average income are forced to use them, but much more of that coming later. for god's sake, how have we got to this state of affairs in just three generations? it's a cliche to say. during the war, only fools and horses, granddads there was an uncle i can't quite remember. cliches are cliches for a reason. but true older generations have prior , they generations have prior, they took responsibility for and owned their own actions. the idea of a government micromanaging because they themselves couldn't cope was totally abhorrent. now, i don't want to get personal. what i'm going to. my nan and granddad were both raised in what is now unimaginable poverty , the proper unimaginable poverty, the proper stuff. know, going school unimaginable poverty, the proper stuf'a know, going school unimaginable poverty, the proper stuf'a nice

that thing. to this day. that sort of thing. to this day. my that sort of thing. to this day. my mum still asks how much and a nose to the penny what has nose to the penny what she has available spend how to budget and be self—sufficient, what life lessons she learned in the post—war years. and she's never forgotten . a woman truly immune forgotten. a woman truly immune to today's pity play . of course, to today's pity play. of course, life has moved on. is better, eafien life has moved on. is better, easier, more comfortable. no one's bombing us yet. easier, more comfortable. no one's bombing us yet . we're one's bombing us yet. we're supposedly happier. are we, though back to our perma miserable master of the blame game, prince harry? actually there's a fool. guess we could call our pity plague. gingivitis couldn't see that. oh hold on. sadly, there's already a gum disease already called that. but at least there's a connection both it and the genuine. just pity both it and the genuine. just pity plague leave a very bad taste . the mouth . but first, i'm taste. the mouth. but first, i'm asking , do taste. the mouth. but first, i'm asking, do you taste. the mouth. but first, i'm asking , do you believe taste. the mouth. but first, i'm asking, do you believe as many people food banks as is ? email people food banks as is? email your views at gbnews.uk or tweet

at . gb news or your views at gbnews.uk or tweet at. gb news or. levelling up. did we ever find out what that is? it was in the tory manifesto in 2019, but a lot of things were what knight has anyone actually been levelled up yet or levelled sideways or what was a new phrase? i can't remember what it was i changing on a daily basis, but like the prime minister, it doesn't matter now that it's news. now that it's old news. it's now gauging stepping and that gauging up, stepping up and that was it getting up? wasn't it stepping up or enhancing communities ? right. will that communities? right. will that make difference . so i'm going make a difference. so i'm going to expert on this. to talk to an expert on this. well, actually he's not an expert clueless i expert is clueless as well i think to tell me join think is about to tell me join me it is red wool me discuss it is red wool conservative mp and lee anderson. hello. there you are. lovely to speak to you tonight. how are you? happy friday. i don't know. we have all time for the clueless labour. i've never been called that before. no, it's a lie . but your message is

it's a lie. but your message is cool. that all the time . okay so cool. that all the time. okay so what currently explain in baby steps to a complete idiot? you know rishi soon. let's call it what is levelling up? what does it mean? what's going on? is it working? well, i think. i think. let's get the people mixed up with this, because when we first came into parliament, three years ago, boris said , that years ago, boris said, that london was an a quote , that london was an a quote, that opportunity sorry, that talent is spread in this country. but opportunity isn't. and that what that was that's what levelling up all about is making sure that opportunities equally across the continent means spending a few quid when he's when he's levelling up this labour, not money. and you know well, i'm not to complain about this too much because in i've done pretty good. much because in i've done pretty good . i've had the record amount good. i've had the record amount of funding a few high of towns funding a few high streets one two new school rebuilds money from the hospital. i've got a hospital. those i've got a railway coming the technology centre stage being centre stage is being redeveloped so my shopping list, my shopping is full. i hear some

people whingeing about it over the past couple of days about the past couple of days about the getting more than the north. that's nonsense. yeah, there's more people live in the south for want and. there's deprivation in the south, as you know. let's be honest . look at know. let's be honest. look at places like jamaica, probably all the deprived areas in all the most deprived areas in the country. i'm fairly sure that that's that's that's in the south. a lot in the north. don't don't don't like it up too much in the north. we're still walking about whip. it's walking about with whip. it's greyhounds rushing home to greyhounds are rushing home to get women get the pigeons in and women enough we do alright in enough cops we do alright in some parts but in other parts we need a little bit of help and in places like ashfield and mansfield bassetlaw we've mansfield and bassetlaw we've done pretty well from the government. so off to base. so you'll have who what your you'll have who and what your constituents as constituents make of it. as i happy with the levelling up process so i please this process so i please that this tory politics to be honest. oh let let's be honest you know they happy when they see the headunes they happy when they see the headlines 70 million hundred million 50 million, which is million or 50 million, which is probably got with all probably what i've got with all the different projects built in.

but end of the day, but at the end of the day, i've always said, dawn, it doesn't matter you the red matter how much you in the red wall it doesn't you any wall areas, it doesn't you any extra mean, said extra votes. i mean, i've said this, prime this, the previous prime ministers what they want see ministers what they want to see they to see police on the they want to see police on the streets. they to see the streets. they want to see the they be able an they want to be able to get an appointment gp. they want appointment to the gp. they want to good to be able to have a good hospital, good education and they the migrant boats they need the migrant boats sorted the channel. sorted out on the channel. that's what people want you that's what people want if you sort what i'm sort that out, that's what i'm pleased the doorstep pleased people on the doorstep not shiny buildings not these shiny new buildings are good things and it brings good things to our area. but you know, red wall voters are quite conservative in their politics, although always labour, although they've always labour, but want see all those but they want see all those things i've just listed . but things i've just listed. but when you that when you say when you say that when you say to the leaders service policy to the leaders in service policy of rishi sunak and i did say. hunt by the way, i mean, what we ask and you get back, are they listening well i mean, listening to you? well i mean, when i first got elected, i had this conversation with the previous minister and previous prime minister and i i'm not sure that, again, this is not dawn to honest, because i won't let just telephone . i've won't let just telephone. i've always said that . i've always

always said that. i've always said this that, you know, people , you know, in the north and in the midlands and the red wall they used to deprivation that. you tell us about poverty . they you tell us about poverty. they used to, you know, get up in the morning all these morning to work and do all these rubbish, crappy jobs out working on pitch worked the on the pitch and worked in the mills, seen in mills, etc. and we've seen in the north before with some projects we've built these big shiny there's shiny new buildings and there's nothing them. five years nothing in them. five years later can say what really later i can say what they really is. good education the kids is. good education for the kids , a good hospital and, you know, good outcomes for the children . good outcomes for the children. do you actually think conservatives can do it in constituency in the areas there? do you think conservatives have actually got anyhow ? yes, i do . actually got anyhow? yes, i do. i think they've got hope because, you know, i talk to people on a regular basis, don't they my constituency, i'm embedded in my community. i'm from i was from and this is where i was born, lived more five born, never lived more than five miles was born . and miles from where i was born. and yes, especially, first yes, voters especially, first off, conservative voters are a little bit grumpy with us at the moment. but when you ask them the keir starmer question do you

like keir starmer and what he stands the answer i stands for? the answer is no, i don't him and i don't know don't like him and i don't know what for . so that's what he stands for. so that's the problem is i don't know what he do think he stands for. do you think actually being honest here, leigh, would have a leigh, that you would have a better of being if boris better chance of being if boris was back in charge ? no, i don't, was back in charge? no, i don't, because , you know, constituents because, you know, constituents although a lot of mine might say, look, boris got a lot of time for boris, they don't like change all the time. they want to they want stability. i to see. they want stability. i always ask for little bit of always ask for a little bit of boring. when boris in boring. now, when boris in charge, for all, you know, for all positive, it a all the positive, it was a little soap opera at little bit like a soap opera at times. know on front times. we know we on the front pages as champions. you wake up in morning , pages as champions. you wake up in morning, you think, oh, in the morning, you think, oh, dean in the morning, you think, oh, dear, news? what's dear, what's on the news? what's in so for the last few in paper? so for the last few months, to be honest, don has been in politics been quite boring in politics and the media trying to, you know, dig up stories and i mean, we've seen really today fine with for not wearing a seatbelt i think was pretty be i think that was pretty to be honest , you know when i honest i think, you know when i met camilla that i was going down the front pages tomorrow.

but to go to the but people want to go to the ballot five years. ballot box every five years. they cross on a they want to put the cross on a papen they want to put the cross on a paper, go and live their lives, and want all this nonsense and they want all this nonsense that producing them that we keep producing for them . to ask you one . i'm just going to ask you one one question quickly here. one final question quickly here. i mean you say policy has been bonng i mean you say policy has been boring hasn't been that boring and it hasn't been that bonng boring and it hasn't been that boring personally this boring for you personally this week. our and week. and a lot of our and listeners think you listeners tonight i think you you talk about an awful lot of stories have spoken a lot of stories you have spoken a lot of sense but i you've got sense but i know you've got a lot flack over on lot of flack over comments on food and how people on food banks and how people on food banks and how people on food banks and how people on food banks using food banks are running amounts of money. can you just a little bit about say what it's like for you this week and the some of flack you've had back on that ? well, it's just back on that? well, it's just another day in the office, unfortunately for me, i get a lot of flack, but then i'm not too bothered. to be honest. my hate on motivated and i've hate is on my motivated and i've done a few abandon interview today about food banks. look, when i was growing up in the seventies and eighties. our food bank was, oh, my god, to moderate in. they had moderate vegetables in. they had carrots, peas, beans potatoes at

the bottom of the garden. we had chickens, rabbits dogs that chickens, rabbits and dogs that was our food my parents was our food bank. my parents are more resilient, resourceful as were my grandparents and i was brought up that if you want more more and it's as more you work more and it's as simple as i know things are tough energy i'm tough for the energy bills i'm for a we've got to take for not a but we've got to take personal responsible take and stop social stop complaining on social media. i'm blaming the government pretend this is a great now people great country. now people literally die in dawn on to get this going to because they know i voted just unfortunate few i voted just an unfortunate few people in some of the media that keep beating us up every day and quite frankly should be ashamed of okay. thank of themselves. okay. well, thank you much . i'm of themselves. okay. well, thank you much. i'm not going to you so much. i'm not going to beat you thank smashing beat you up late. thank smashing to talk to you tonight on friday night. your time. night. thank you for your time. have get back have a lovely weekend. get back to whip it. that's a joke by the way. i'm stereotyping the way. i'm not stereotyping the north. . you know north. i know. you know what? whip i know. i think i'm whip it. i know. i think i'm going up next. we'll be having a chat on how and how nurses are to use food to survive in this cost of living crisis. i'll be back soon. don't go anywhere .

on mark dolan tonight in a world exclusive, katie price joins us live to talk fame, love, money, plastic surgery and her hopes for the future get you in dangerous respect gp news i'm meeting up with my old mate mark dolan. it's been ages since i've done an interview . dolan. it's been ages since i've done an interview. him that's katie price on mark dolan tonight on . tonight on. gb news at hello. welcome back. i'm glad you hung around. going to get much better. we have wine coming in, former cabinet in, right? a former cabinet minister has down his minister has doubled down on his criticism of nurses using foodbanks after his comments

were branded , disgusting, were branded, disgusting, heartless and out of touch for not levelling up. secretary clarke said the average nurses salary of clarke said the average nurses salary o f £35,000 a year is not salary of £35,000 a year is not a salary on which you need food. lying a foodbank. this is such a huge debate, isn't it? right. and i. joining me now to debate this is former editor of the sunday. paul carney. welcome and the very gorgeous and going and lovely suit, i have to say ray abraham , a political abraham, a political commentator. welcome both of you.thank commentator. welcome both of you. thank you so much for coming in on friday night. coming in on a friday night. really appreciate it. do have really appreciate it. we do have wine way , right wine coming. by the way, right now , what do we think about this now, what do we think about this poll going to come to you first because you have actually got annoyed about conservative politicians commentating on who and who shouldn't be using food banks. so do you think i should just shut up and? the nurse is going to be using food banks. i think if this has been for the government as a week, which i'm underin government as a week, which i'm under in it, she wouldn't have

made a bit of, did i think. a bit episode like this week culminated with tonight's news that rishi sunak has had his second fixed penalty fine and this with boris johnson bouncing around davos while the prime minister trying to stay at home. please police corruption and rape, you know , it's rape, you know, it's unbelievable. but i think among this week it was a classic own goal by a former cabinet minister, a man on what is now a n £84,000 a year as an mp. he an £84,000 a year as an mp. he was on lot more when he was the. for a brief time a levelling up minister before that the secretary to the treasury. i mean it is arrogant because apart from the salary mps have generous expenses some would argue, too generous . and i just argue, too generous. and i just think i just think it was insulting to the nurses and these were wrong as well. yes, these were wrong as well. yes, the average pay. but that takes in the top line. top line nurses. you know senior nurses

will be around for 20 years, might get to 47,000. but what about the young nurses whose average pays between 20 and 24? i'm going to come to you on this one now. so the current average salary in the uk is 2756, which is this is i take the point that some are on the lesser the average earnings of a nurse or a teacher who's on 30,000. so it's the average uk income is 26, £27,756. why are we only using foodbanks? what are the huge queues at foodbanks? why is it the nurses and the teachers and those in the public sector who are also going out on strike? look, i first want to say, i think that, you know, we of think that, you know, we all of in incredibly privileged in an incredibly privileged position sort of be talking about that these about the fact that these individuals felt individuals obviously felt the need go to need that they had go to foodbanks. but, look, i think the british people the majority of british people able to budget and able to understand how to sort of allocate that money to their food you know, food and food and, you know, food and energy know, these energy bills, you know, these pnces energy bills, you know, these prices increasing of prices increasing as a result of government policy , which has government policy, which has directly inflation . but

directly caused inflation. but again, i think that the majority of can of people can, you know, can survive on that amount of money. i graduate this year and i you know, graduate probably know, my graduate job probably won't more than won't be anything more than £25,000 i live in £25,000 a year. i live in london. so, you know, will london. so, you know, i will have budget. well, have to learn to budget. well, maybe be end up a food maybe i'll be end up on a food bank next. do you live bank in the next. do you live alone or do you share it? i alone or do you share it? so i live with family and live with my family and i decided not move out all decided to not move out at all dunng during university, chose university home just so university close to home just so that i wouldn't able that i wouldn't be able to afford in london. but afford rent in london. but again, that the majority again, i think that the majority of people are able to sort of budget that. i don't understand why nurses that are on upwards of why nurses that are on upwards o why nurses that are on upwards 0 having to of £35,000 a year are having to go . but i think go to foodbanks. but i think that people feel that, that that when people feel that, that they to that they do. they need to get that they do. i think we need sort think that what we need to sort of change culture around of change this culture around spending, think covid, sort of change this culture around sp spent], think covid, sort of change this culture around sp spent a think covid, sort of change this culture around sp spent a huge< covid, sort of change this culture around sp spent a huge of ovid, sort of change this culture around sp spent a huge of money sort of change this culture around sp spent a huge of money because of spent a huge of money because we able to we were at home. we were able to we were at home. we need to learn to budget more and prioritise we and actually prioritise where we spend on spend our money but hospitals on setting food sometimes in the setting up food sometimes in the hospital fun know that there hospital for fun know that there is that there is a need for this and cost of a nursing job and the cost of a nursing job especially if you are a young

nurse prohibitive by the time nurse is prohibitive by the time you've travel costs, you've paid your travel costs, your even having to if you your fuel even having to if you got car you have to pay to got a car you have to pay to actually . many hospitals paint actually. many hospitals paint paint it which is paint upon it which is ridiculous. i agree but i'm sorry . me don't you think the sorry. me don't you think the room has a point that and of the politicians that you've criticised have made the point that maybe they, with a bit of help to budget and bit of common sense about how you spend your money. there would be less reliance on foodbanks. it's very it's very patronising housing for employees on their salaries and perks. i mean, i mean, i've seen employees who actually charge their poppies on their expense expenses say, you know , expense expenses say, you know, if anybody is not not qualified to really pontificate and lecture nurses about budgeting, it doesn't matter how much they earn. isn't it really about the actual sort of the reality of the situation and i mean, somebody could sort of be earning belo w £20,000 a and earning below £20,000 a year and actually the same actually say the exact same thing, from thing, where it comes from really . but facts matter .

really. but the facts matter. and the fact of the matter is, the of aren't earning and the fact of the matter is, themuch of aren't earning and the fact of the matter is, themuch as of aren't earning and the fact of the matter is, themuch as nursesn't earning and the fact of the matter is, themuch as nurses and arning and the fact of the matter is, themuch as nurses and the 1g as much as nurses and the majority of people are not on foodbanks . well, that's well, foodbanks. well, that's well, that's true. that we don't we don't know because it hasn't been in, as far i can say, been in, as far as i can say, any study of private any any proper study of private sector workers who may you know, who may be foodbanks. we don't really know that. so i think it's targeting nurses as certain employees was absolutely was a crass pr own goal . employees was absolutely was a crass pr own goal. i mean, i, i know one senior tory mp of mine who actually buries head in his hands and said another own goal , in fact, and i didn't get to michael gove rather slapped down fact you know the mp who came out attachment to try to dictate how nurses should budget. yeah i've got to say i agree and i think that we shouldn't be attacking nurse but we should be attacking nurse but we should be attacking is actually a failure of education system. the of our education system. the fact that we haven't been taught financial literacy, fact financial literacy, the fact that mean , i, you

that we have i mean, i, you know, graduate year . that we have i mean, i, you know, graduate year. i've know, i graduate this year. i've never taught to how my own never been taught to how my own money. my first job when i was 16, i adding money. my first job when i was 16, i addin g £5.50 an hour 16, i adding £5.50 an hour and i was somehow able to get you was somehow able to get by, you know, school and i'd know, during school and i'd gone, was living at home. gone, but i was living at home. but but but that covered my travel. but you to budget you just learn to budget yourself. it is a yourself. i think it is a failure education in system. yourself. i think it is a faileajoritchation in system. yourself. i think it is a faill majority peoplein system. yourself. i think it is a faill majority people my(stem. yourself. i think it is a faileajority people my going the majority people my going into workforce do not know into the workforce do not know how we haven't been how budget and we haven't been taught think i think taught how. i think i think there's truth that. but there's some truth in that. but but i also think that the current crisis on, you know, on the cost of living is very is very differen . and i think i very differen. and i think i think for well—paid i think politicians, you know are not overpaid , but they are much overpaid, but they are much better paid the lower than the average nurse. and to pontificate is simply and criticise nurses and tell them how you know they they should budget better actually arrogance andinqu budget better actually arrogance and insult back to reeves point does that mean you could only have an opinion this and

criticise it if you are on the same income as well? no, i'm a i'm a believer in free speech, but if but if you actually if you so foolish as to come out with that sort of attack expect the backlash . so i mean that the the backlash. so i mean that the thing is i mean a lot of a lot of but not necessary talk of the but not necessary talk about a lot of politicians about that a lot of politicians have to go and meet have you've had to go and meet the three of them all together, isn't there. well, simon is the main person who we've had on here, and brendan clarke , you've here, and brendan clarke, you've called counts called them arrogant and counts product death to talk about pubuc product death to talk about public sectors using bank public sectors using food bank workers. they've also workers. now they've also offered on budget and offered advice on on budget and how to prepare meals cheaply in particular has done so . the one particular has done so. the one thing i would like to hang on a please talking about about sort of your back garden being your own sort of allotments. in fact, a lot of the people, public nursing haven't thought about what that would do. you know. but it's a remes point about taught budgeting. i mean, which student goes on about teachers will and we're six or will maths and we're six or whenever he wants to do it but you teach basic

you know teach us basic budgeting i mean, know, budgeting. i mean, you know, sort know, sort of sort of like, you know, sort of like equations, a like quadratic equations, a pointless compared to running a budget, budget and budget, a family budget and feeding okay, we're feeding yourself. okay, we're not . we're not not told about tax. we're not talk to actually talk about how to actually budget think when budget our money. i think when it down really simple it comes down to really simple things barrister things like getting a barrister for schemes that you can get on to, means of tea to, that means you get of tea room travel. if you're room travel. even if you're a student, sort of a student, you get sort of a discount travel most discount to travel on most tfl buses. think that the fact buses. so i think that the fact that things are taught that these things are taught to us. sorry. about us. what about sorry. what about these teachers? for example, us. what about sorry. what about thesedivorceds? for example, us. what about sorry. what about thesedivorced nurse example, us. what about sorry. what about thesedivorced nurse whotple, us. what about sorry. what about thesedivorced nurse who is.e, they divorced nurse who is a mother of two who child care costs wipe out a large chunk of her salary anyway. well, the problem is we have so an mp telling her she doesn't know how to budget is patronising and insulting . yes, but the reason insulting. yes, but the reason why we have such high childcare costs because of the costs is because of the extortionate regulations that the have put forward. the government have put forward. i mean the fact that have i mean the fact that we have such staff ratios such high child staff ratios essentially mean that the government forcibly government are forcibly increasing prices. so i think we should also, i should paying the price. also, i know another one know that it's also another one of my pet themes. that's also not of brexit, along not a legacy of brexit, along

with the chronic shortage case of care workers at nhs , the of care workers at nhs, the b—word , which i think is what b—word, which i think is what frees that we actually have a b word collection box here. anytime it's a square box and we use we have to pay a fiver, right. to be well give right. to be. well i'll give it to you sir. so need to think about something the one thing paul she's. i hear paul, in fact, both of you . why is it fact, both of you. why is it okay for food bloggers like jack monroe? very leftwing and did an amazing job people to amazing job telling people to budget, what buy, what what budget, what to buy, what what was cheap what supermarkets was cheap in what supermarkets has put a mill on on 30 p to plug has put a mill on on 30 p to plug that in martin moneysavingexpert you know why it okay for them who obviously are much because they able are much because they are able to do it why is it okay for leftwing to come out with a similar but if it's a right wing politician that does it or a conservative politician, i mean that wing. why is that an that right wing. why is that an issue ? i totally their right to issue? i totally their right to come out and to say it. issue? i totally their right to come out and to say it . but for come out and to say it. but for them arrogant and cowardice . them arrogant and cowardice. exactly but you didn't say that

about martin lewis or jack monroe , but i don't agree. there monroe, but i don't agree. there it's the same. but but if anybody is entitled to attack them as well, free speech allows . but as i said before , take the . but as i said before, take the backlash and i don't think the pubuci backlash and i don't think the public i haven't seen a snap poll on it but i doubt the pubuc poll on it but i doubt the public were on. we're on the side of the employees who actually condemn nurses for going to food banks or saying they couldn't manage their budgets . very interesting to budgets. very interesting to hear what you think out there. so do let us know tonight. please do. william, you please do. and william, do you think there is an element of , think there is an element of, this issue in particular food bank issue, which is incredibly emotive , establishing to the emotive, establishing to the whole food bank business, if i can use that phrase and the people that are really, really down on their opposition to them . do you think it has become a political football and the unions dare i, all using it to score political points against the government? they want to bnng the government? they want to bring down? absolutely. i think that, at moment that, look, unions at the moment specifically food

specifically are using food banks as a sort of political tool in order to sort of sort of criticise government. and, you know, criticise the know, you can criticise the government many ways, but when you using information you actually using information that that is that isn't factual, that is incredibly motive, i think it's unfair. and i think that look, when got these when you've got these unions that encouraging , that are sort of encouraging, sort saying nurses need sort of saying that nurses need to banks, actually, sort of saying that nurses need to that banks, actually, sort of saying that nurses need to that is)anks, actually, sort of saying that nurses need to that is takingactually, sort of saying that nurses need to that is taking ittually, sort of saying that nurses need to that is taking it away again, that is taking it away from those people that actually genuinely or genuinely are homeless or genuinely are homeless or genuinely need to able to go genuinely need to be able to go food banks and receive . but one food banks and receive. but one quick comment. sorry, we got to go. just quick comment. but conversely, you could argue the sunak are adopting sunak government are adopting a position , the strikes of not position, the strikes of not even negotiate home pay because the tory party is currently almost in a civil war and that is to keep happy the right wing of the party in the back seat, a car without a seatbelt on. unfortunately, we to go there if you so much i thank you both to have both of my guests on that very debate coming very heated debate coming up with of jacinda with the departure of jacinda ardern as prime minister of new zealand. i do want to ask if women politics still face

women in politics still face more scrutiny than men back very soon. don't go anywhere .

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we will of that right ? lots of we will of that right? lots of you have been getting in touch with me about my question . do with me about my question. do you believe as many people need food as is claimed ? so let's see food as is claimed? so let's see what you've had to say on this one right. one view. i would give it a name for god's sake. i think it's disgusting that nurses have to go to food banks . says no , . meanwhile, elliot says no, don't. there is obviously some need, but i think it's been exaggerated by politicians and some sections of the press for partisan reasons. the idea that many would starve without food banks when they didn't even exist in the uk as so long ago is absurd . pretty much what is absurd. pretty much what a lot of people are saying think, right? sally says. i'm always puzzled by the amount of people raise their hands horror at raise their hands in horror at having to use food banks. surely they we should be grateful . a they we should be grateful. a kind of a kind people are working really hard to put together and distribute food to people who need help. get over yourselves. not personally, i hope, and just be grateful for the help and support people willing to give. and i've got a friend who runs food and

friend who runs a food bank and they incredibly hard. so they do what incredibly hard. so big people big shout out people that are actually it. actually at the sharp end of it. meanwhile, says , how meanwhile, carol says, how pompous weren't pompous to say we weren't budget. no one was circumstances in every family. actually arrogance. who are you to say? who's friends? well, you don't know me personally. oh thanks. oh, right. okay right. from the famous like headline to a shameful baby's head bbc headune shameful baby's head bbc headline about jacinda ardern . headline about jacinda ardern. can a woman have a oh, i was appalled by that . you can't help appalled by that. you can't help it feel the system is stacked against women in politics and a lot of other areas . women by far lot of other areas. women by far more abuse and criticism than . more abuse and criticism than. men and with with with so with social media being everywhere women are forced more and more under the spotlight . and it under the spotlight. and it comes as this week in parliament labour mp for canterbury rosie duffield was heckled in the commons with some of her male colleagues shouting at her, pointing fingers and being actually, frankly very aggressive as she defended

government's blocking of the changes to the scottish parliament legislation on gender identification . now joining me identification. now joining me to discuss is emma, best conservative of the london assembly . hello emma . what are assembly. hello emma. what are you getting . oh, yeah, good. you getting. oh, yeah, good. thank you very much for joining me on a friday night. giving up valuable time right? me on a friday night. giving up valuable time right ? well, yeah, valuable time right? well, yeah, talk about women having a little i'm a mother, so i'm just at home with the kids. so no crazy friday nights with a nice cup of tea on a friday night. but so the kids get in that much. so i mean, emma , how do you think mean, emma, how do you think i want to ask you as a woman and a politician, what you about the way jacinda phrased her stepping down? i i've always i mean i wouldn't say that politically i'm aligned with a particular fan of jacinda ardern, but i did think it was a really really in my speech standing down and i suddenly kind of felt the heart strings of, you know, is strings of, you know, this is a really way to exit the main

really good way to exit the main stage of politics. i mean , my stage of politics. i mean, my feeling slightly got dampened by the kind of left wing fawning over jacinda ardern that followed that day, which i think kind of ignored a lot of the back story and things that new zealanders be feeling in zealanders might be feeling in their political world and, and in the country. but i, i think that was, that was a good statement and it was well made and i went down well and she had nothing in the tank and i can't imagine a politician leader of a country saying anything that. so it was quite similar orientated which led to the baby . a which led to the baby. a headune which led to the baby. a headline of you know, can women ever really have it all, which i personally thought was staggeringly sexist. so can i ask as a woman and a mum working in politics, is sexism still an issue ? do women have to deal issue? do women have to deal with this on a daily basis? still sexism obviously still exists. and you know, i experience sexism. i've been called a blonde bimbo, which

perhaps in ways i take as a bit of a compliment. so i've never seen myself as being able to be grabbing the pin. i title, but but they're certainly sexism that exists. but what i would is that exists. but what i would is that it doesn't define politics and actually there are much more people out there on the side of women know i've had the support from the conservative party women to win on the part of 5050 parliament and now a lot of men and you talked that case earlier with miriam cates , shouted down with miriam cates, shouted down in parliament, actually what you saw as a colleague, paul bristow , immediately come and sit next to recognise that to her, recognise that situation, come support her. situation, and come support her. and so i think it's really important because want important because we want to encourage women into encourage more women into politics to it clear that i politics to make it clear that i think the overriding is good when it comes to politics and people want to support women and want them skilled of course too, as i think you mentioned earlier , walk of life you experience sexism. of course you do. but the overwhelming feeling is that people are there for you and people are there for you and people women to succeed . do you

people women to succeed. do you think that i mean it's angela rayner and tracey brave and if i remember right they both criticised for their outfits , criticised for their outfits, they what they were wearing. i mean know you don't seem to get that with male politicians. oh look . got his that with male politicians. oh look. got his tie that with male politicians. oh look . got his tie slightly look. got his tie slightly undone. he's a bit of a comment on whereas angela and tracey on it, whereas angela and tracey both because of their both had that because of their inner mean you know, inner outfit. i mean you know, it's not something you still face as well as female in politics. i think there's an aspect to that. but i would always draw attention as well to the fact that i do think men in also get this sort of abuse. now i said earlier, find jacinda ardern politically. i'm certainly not a fan of jeremy corbyn, but if see the abuse that he sometimes got for the outfits he was wearing, it does happen. so i would just say did face it as well? what i feel is very interesting that bbc very interesting with that bbc talking women it talking about can women have it all think only all because i think they only other and other side of looking and thinking why don't we that thinking why don't we ask that question men it's almost question of men it's almost dismissive men don't care dismissive but men don't care about their that we about their families that we shouldn't asking they have shouldn't be asking if they have it all. i do think have to

it all. so i do think we have to look sides of coin look at both sides of the coin this because there's this as well, because there's another this as well another side to this as well where can't forget you where we can't forget that, you know, men men do suffer abuse in politics well. looks politics as well. it looks slightly let's slightly different. but let's just it the side because just push it to the side because men and they can handle it. just push it to the side because men and they can handle it . and men and they can handle it. and it is that more and more it is great that more and more females, young females in particular going into politics and be positively and they need to be positively encouraged. you think the encouraged. but do you think the old adage is still true, that a woman going politics, politics, you have be twice as good and work as hard as the men . i work as hard as the men. i think, like i said, there's a lot of support. so i think that is getting better and i would never want put people off, but as much, you know, and i think you ableism, you see this way of, ableism, ageism and sexism, you get ageism and sexism, you just get less , you know . so if you ageism and sexism, you just get less , you know. so if you make less, you know. so if you make up a man, sometimes it can be seen as i just had an day with a woman that just not quite up to it sometimes. so i think that that does does exist but i that that does does exist but i would say on the other issue, there's enough that understand that it's important to have

women in politics and getting behind us. brilliant. well, let's hope it continues this way. and more young women to get involved in politics. we have a 50% of the population. i think that might be 57 population now. so thank you so much for joining us tonight and really appreciate it. have a lovely weekend with you, little. thank you very much you, little. thank you very much you care right . okay. you to take care right. okay. now the serious stuff at home. do you know how many units are in a small glass of wine? this is tea, by the way. stick around to . find out. is tea, by the way. stick around to. find out. see is tea, by the way. stick around to . find out. see you is tea, by the way. stick around to. find out. see you .

soon hey, welcome back. thank you for hanging around on a friday night, right? it's jan . it's. hanging around on a friday night, right? it'sjan . it's. i night, right? it's jan. it's. i know it's the longest month of the. yeah. i mean, how long is

this month going for? on and we we've heard this week that in canada that celebrated january by warning you about your booze intake again and you drink one bottle a year or something or other, any kind . yeah we have other, any kind. yeah we have already seen and been told how great it is cutting back on drinking. i mean, non—stop new new year, all that sort thing. maybe this time of year when we reflect, we might have done over christmas my way , but where do christmas my way, but where do we stop ? the first step is often we stop? the first step is often knowing how much alcohol is too much on how many units are in your drink . what is this unit your drink. what is this unit staying on? joining to discuss this is a dr. oh my god, i'm so ignorant. it's not like dr. lawrence girls hello, dr. lawrence girls hello, dr. lawrence . thank you about you lawrence. thank you about you are going to be kind to us. go it's a friday night. i'll try and be kind. this this not that i'm not here to spoil people's. no, it's a week i was always told. is that actually lawrence

lawrence . yeah. good. excellent. lawrence. yeah. good. excellent. i was told lawrence, as long as i was told lawrence, as long as i didn't drink as much, my doctor, i was okay. i that's an old truism, but that truisms because they're often true, right we've heard this week the problem there the problem that almost i don't drink i know every once in a you've you've got some hit right lawrence we've had this week that canada have introduce a new guidance abouti have introduce a new guidance about i just i just very quickly briefly what they are suggesting with alcohol. yeah the canadian government in their wisdom well well known for telling people how to live their lives is said you should drink no more than to units a week bear in mind that you do uk guidelines two units a day. so the canadians want you to cut to down units a week. and i wish them luck trying to enforce that or trying to even get people to go anywhere near that, quite frankly. so what i mean, you know what ? what should mean, you know what? what should we drinking ? she also we be drinking? she also nervously . genders the country .

nervously. genders the country. january's a good time , not drink january's a good time, not drink anything. i destroy the pub trade . and alcohol is serious. trade. and alcohol is serious. i see the problems alcohol causes there are pockets of society students , businessmen , the students, businessmen, the elderly who still drink too much. it's totally unacceptable. sad to want drink, but let let's lighten the mood a little bit i think what the canadians are doing is totally unrealistic . doing is totally unrealistic. it's the job of doctors and pubuc it's the job of doctors and public health to give advice whether you take it or not is up to you . i'm a libertarian. to you. i'm a libertarian. i think you're free to do your body whatever you want. quite frankly, we give the advice. you either take it or don't . i think either take it or don't. i think two units a day is probably a reasonable amount to consume two units a week. so under i don't know why the canadians bother because it's just laughable quite frankly. i agree . right quite frankly. i agree. right now i've invited back paul callan, you and former newspaper editor and rahim reem abrahams.

sorry, i've been drinking . no, i sorry, i've been drinking. no, i haven't had a conservative commentator because we're all bit confused, all the way about what a unit actually is. so dr. lawrence , you are going to give lawrence, you are going to give us a little test on you. yeah. who's well, this first thing is, how many units to bear in mind. the canadians . when you drink the canadians. when you drink two units a week, how many units do you think are in a large class red wine? who rim? i'm going . to say two. i think going. to say two. i think probably four or. i did not chuckle. i like that chocolate. i go on, it's three. so down the middle . so you drink you drink middle. so you drink you drink a large glass of red wine. you've gone over to justin trudeau's limits. i'm how about us? how about a small glass of white wine . oh, gosh , i'm. i'm going wine. oh, gosh, i'm. i'm going

to go to i'll give it to as well . yeah, it's actually 1.5 white wine, less sugar , therefore less wine, less sugar, therefore less alcohol. so yeah, that that's probably better for you. next one, how a pint of cider. probably better for you. next one, how a pint of cider . oh, my one, how a pint of cider. oh, my lord. raine, go on you're a student. three, i am a student, but i can't say i drink too much. i'm going to say students can't down the side of i'm going to say it said a pint of cider. yeah. four, five, five. it's to you from pint. oh god. a very one is more is more concentrate is alcohol them the most, most . is alcohol them the most, most. so next one, how about a pint of lager? and i think i've given a hit on the way. right. okay. well is my favourite. and the logo range is for that. in that case if it if it's 3.5 now it's a pint of lagers , two units. so a pint of lagers, two units. so the king, this queen is much more than i think, it's a little better about ourselves by the moment. lawrence we love you.

thank much. can you thank you very much. can you come doctor? come with be my doctor? okay. what's next for us here? a double gin and tonic. how many ? double gin and tonic. how many? the ones you pull yourself. the ones you get in a pablo bar. is that a small gin city. that. that thing, whether it's slim. no difference. the alcohol poll i. i'm not doing something wrong by this point about this was it dilutes it in let's go and read what you're promising me depends on the type of gin as well because some of them have higher concentrates of alcohol. i'm going an average, going to guess as an average, probably about three. this is a girl started got to girl that started it. you got to say 2.5. yeah it's 2 to 1 unit of spirits is, is one one. so a double giant is two units. okay next one. how about anahita, something a bit more exotic? oh i like cocktails . go. going to i like cocktails. go. going to assume three as well . think a assume three as well. think a bit harder because the rough i think for now you can have 2.5 on that one. so that's you know,

that gives you a bit more bit more room for manoeuvre if in the uk none at all. if you're in canada my grandson is in canada i'm sure he won't be a guy like he would be it's ultimate rules here it's a glass of champagne there you . offer champagne there you. offer champagne socialist or otherwise. right i'm champagne so you kill me what you want? i like champagne. right. very quickly on this one, i'm to i say to as i'm going to say to i say to as well. yeah yeah, that's 1.5. so it's a nice dry white wine, champagne. i'm finally a double whisky . oh, right. double whisky. oh, right. double whisky. oh, right. double whisky. quickly running out of time. i'm allergic to whisky. but i would say 2.5. yeah it's two units to you go. oh to know, you know you can drink until the end of january and then then we'll let you do what you like . we'll let you do what you like. laurence, thank you so much for you all to cheer me up enormously . we can. all right. enormously. we can. all right. cheers. thank you very much. happy friday night, cheers. thank you very much, happy friday night, everybody, happy friday night, everybody. we hope you've enjoyed happy friday night, everybody, we hope you've enjoyed the show i've laurence so blondes i've been laurence so blondes it's close and coming next

coming up next is my old mocha mark gordon and he got some tncksin mark gordon and he got some tricks in store for you that may or may not involve alcohol . but or may not involve alcohol. but knowing mark, it probably was. but thanks for joining me. and but thanks forjoining me. and a lovely weekend and we'll see you all very soon. cheers cheers. cheers hello. it was a beautiful day out on friday and it's going to stay that way into the weekend for and wales mild conditions though in the far west spreading into parts of scotland northern ireland during the evening accompanied by wet and windy weather as well. meanwhile for of the uk as we head into friday evening it's clear skies and light winds temperatures soon falling freezing widely and by the end of the night minus three minus four celsius across much the uk, minus seven to minus ten degrees over some parts of snow covered northern england and northeast scotland freezing patches around first thing as well from the

vale of york into the midlands whilst marches southwest to england , they'll be slow to england, they'll be slow to clear because some issues on the roads, first thing, but a completely different story for western scotland, for northern ireland and rain ireland here, cloud and rain will have been increasing through nights and through the nights and a strengthening with around strengthening wind with around western coast of scotland the northern isles by the afternoon along with those outbreaks of rain, those outbreaks of rain will reach parts of the grampians falling into cold air, leading to the risk of freezing rain by the afternoon here . but rain by the afternoon here. but apart from the cloudy , breezy, apart from the cloudy, breezy, damp weather in the northwest , damp weather in the northwest, we're also going to see that too. dry weather across much the rest of the uk with clear skies once again leading to widespread frost. this time it's more confined on saturday night to the southeastern quarter of the uk with the east midlands east anglia and the southeast seeing temperatures widely below minus three celsius and some freezing fog once again to contend with . fog once again to contend with. elsewhere across the uk, it's cloudy and damp. starts to

sunday. outbreaks of rain into scotland, northern ireland, western fringes of england and wales , an increasing breeze and wales, an increasing breeze and increasingly mild temperatures by sunday and monday in some western areas, up to ten or 11 celsius. meanwhile, we keep the chilly air in the southeast into the start of next week .

good evening . good evening. i'm good evening . i'm tatiana good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez. in the gb newsroom am a series of fresh walkouts have been announced by the united as the bitter dispute over of staffing continues. they're set to walk out for a further ten days. the workers across england, wales and northern ireland . 10,000 ambulance staff ireland. 10,000 ambulance staff with the gmb and the royal college of nursing and the 6th of february downing street says