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disagree . no will be disagree. but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also political commentator, sound dowler. before we started, let's get your latest news . your latest news. nana.thank your latest news. nana. thank you very much. this is the latest from the gb newsroom former chancellor nadhim zahawi sought to address questions his tax affairs following reports he paid a penalty as part of a multi—million pound settlement . multi—million pound settlement. in a statement, multi—million pound settlement. in a statement , conservative in a statement, conservative party chairman said the hmrc accepted he made a careless but not deliberate error in relation to the sale of shares in yougov. that's the polling company founded. mr. zahawi been under pressure following claims tried to avoid paying tax and labour have said his position is

untenable. dominic raab, who's being investigated bullying is passing judgement on nadhim zahawi, who's just had a £1 million fine for not paying his taxes on time and that pretty much epitomises this conservative cabinet. when the prime minister came into office , he said that he would run a government that would have honesty intake party and professionalism at its heart. none of those three things are happening today. none of those three things are happening today . while the prime happening today. while the prime minister has been described as a total liability , labour and total liability, labour and faces a renewed wave of criticism from employees after being fined for a second time by police. rishi sunak's apologised for failing to wear a seat belt whilst filming a social media clip earlier this week. in the back of a moving car, the prime minister was also fined last year for breaking lockdown restrictions . 2020. and he's restrictions. 2020. and he's been accused of showing the same disregard for rules as former pm bofis disregard for rules as former pm boris johnson. shadow financial secretary james murray. mr.

sunak has lost control . just sunak has lost control. just when you thought the conservatives couldn't get any more . rishi sunak shows that he more. rishi sunak shows that he can't even fasten his seat belts. and i think speaks this speaks volumes about the fact that the prime minister is not is not in control and can pay . is not in control and can pay. keir starmer with rishi sunak keir starmer with rishi sunak keir starmer with rishi sunak keir starmer has been in the economic forum this week promoting the uk, promoting plan for economic growth in rishi sunak complex design. see out. i think people will make the right judgement about who has been to lead the country, but deputy prime minister dominic raab has defended mr. sunak, saying he's a human being . he made a a human being. he made a mistake. the prime minister put his hand straight up. it was a mistake . he's apologised for it. mistake. he's apologised for it. he takes responsible for it. he hasn't actually gone down that path blaming anyone else. he's taken responsibility it. he'll pay taken responsibility it. he'll pay the fine. he's a human as well as a credit bbc politician. the prime minister got a frantic schedule, but he's made it clear

there's no excuses . stagecoach there's no excuses. stagecoach damon bloke has disputed what she calls malicious allegations made against her after being charged with human trafficking offences. police scotland three other people understood to be members of her family were charged on thursday in connection with alleged immigration offences . connection with alleged immigration offences. ms. connection with alleged immigration offences . ms. globe immigration offences. ms. globe denies the allegations made against her and her family adviser to ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy says indecision over to send german made tanks to ukraine is costing lives . western allies agreed lives. western allies agreed yesterday to send more nato weaponry to . ukraine. but weaponry to. ukraine. but germany remains to provide its leopard tanks , allow other leopard tanks, allow other countries to donate theirs despite increasing pressure . do despite increasing pressure. do so. ukraine has urgently requested tanks to counter planned spring offensive . the planned spring offensive. the met office has issued a yellow weather for fog tomorrow, but says the worst of the cold spell

is over. the warning will be in place until am on monday and cover south and east of england and may cause disruption to flights with . drivers being flights with. drivers being warned of icy conditions . warned of icy conditions. temperatures are expected to climb next week right across the country . and andy murray, the country. and andy murray, the impressive winning run at the australian open , now come to an australian open, now come to an end after another battling display in round three. the three time grand slam champion knocked out by spain's roberto baptiste ago despite a fourth at battle. murray who's now 35 and plays with a metal hip was taken five sets in his first two matches, finishing his second round tie after a 4 am. lucky all time friday. fellow brit don evans also lost earlier . this is evans also lost earlier. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. not back nana.

deal deal with me on nana akua this is a gb news on online and on digital . it's fast on digital. it's fast approaching . excuse me. approaching. excuse me. 6 minutes after 4:00, nicholas , minutes after 4:00, nicholas, who, as you know , my mother who, as you know, my mother cannot stand a lap room on. what does she want .7 i just can't does she want.7 i just can't stand . that woman . nicholas stand. that woman. nicholas sturgeon will stop at nothing to personal agenda of breaking up the union. and of course, she's at it again. in fact, she's always at it. and this time it's the expense of women in. what, in my view, is a clear attempt to stoke the fire of independence . nicholas sturgeon independence. nicholas sturgeon has decided to tamper with something that really didn't need to be touched, something that only affects a small minority and two people, some of whom some would argue was suffering from a mental illness and need medical help. something that her plans will enable young people to bypass nicola nicholas

sturgeon in an infinite along with a load of scottish , has with a load of scottish, has decided that in scotland the age for changing gender be lowered to just 16. where age you will be able to legally a gender recognition certificate for your preferred gender irrespective of your actual biological sex. and your actual biological sex. and you can do this without medical checks. what's so ever on your planet to see exist where removal of safeguards protecting young and vulnerable minds from being certified as having gender dysphoria by professionals first as being unnecessary it is meant to be a check balance to ensure that those who feel they are trapped in the wrong body are not just going through puberty. a natural and normal stage that all go through as our hormones run wild. but i'm actually in need of further evaluation . need of further evaluation. anyone with half a brain knows that. anyone with half a brain knows that . and in opening the that. and in opening the floodgates in this way it means anyone who is not trans, which is to take advantage of this can

do so without medical diagnosis . isn't truth of this that nicholas sturgeon wants to create an issue out of a non—issue knowing well that her plans will directly impact england and wales and that westminster will of course in. and in fact it's section five powers to block or hollyrood gender recognition reform legislation which has never been used before . and then she can used before. and then she can say this is a question of sovereignty . and look at england sovereignty. and look at england trying tell the scottish people what to do . code for it's time what to do. code for it's time to break up the union the only thing is she has picked the wrong issue and my view is using trans people to shoehorn an independence agenda in a shameful manner and now a service introduced by aberdeen city council by an snp and liberal coalition to its nine schools, forcing as young as seven to answer questions about their gender. questions like

what agenda do you identify with.7 and then giving them opfions. with.7 and then giving them options. male. female non—binary. transgender other. subtly indoctrinating the concept of more than two genders. something had not been discussed with the parents who were in the main outraged douglas lumsden. tory msp for nonh douglas lumsden. tory msp for north east scotland and a former co—leader of aberdeen city council said it is disgraceful that the council forcing children as young as seven to answer questions their gender. we've heard maggie chapman just this week that she would like children as young as eight to be able to change gender. these snipping questions from the council seem to be following same agenda , so we can't see the same agenda, so we can't see the scottish being happy with nicola sturgeon's plan. if anything , it sturgeon's plan. if anything, it demonstrates why she absolutely shouldn't be in charge and ultimately this issue is a smokescreen for her woeful mismanagement of scotland.

nicholas sturgeon has bitten off more than she can chew. she has shown herself to be completely obsessed with her agenda in the midst of this crisis. nicholas sturgeon is focusing gender reform to break up the union . reform to break up the union. i'm so uncaring. my poor plan is somehow too striking. and i am saying shut up. every time one of the little pictures comes up like that i hope we die before we get stuck in debate, let me show you what else is coming up tonight for the great budget debate this hour. i'm asking, do you believe that rishi sunak can lead his government with integrity. rishi integrity. prime minister rishi sunak's fined after sunak's has been fined after failing a seatbelt. failing to wear a seatbelt. a promotional clip for his levelling up announcement now that. levelling up announcement now that . and also former the that. and also former the chancellor nadhim zahawi paid that. and also former the chancellor nadhim zahawi pai d £1 chancellor nadhim zahawi paid £1 million fine to hmrc over taxes, conceding that effectively. or is it more the same tory chaos

and. stay with me at 450 is royal roundup time and joining me live are youtube sensation the royal rogue himself, cedric kasparov and royal biographer andrew levin will be in the studio discussing all royal. new polling suggests that prince harry and meghan's ratings have plunged both in the uk and, in the states that's following the release of harry's dreadful memoir, spare and that's says the princess of wales , that's the princess of wales, that's princess catherine undertakes . princess catherine undertakes. royal engagements. amidst all the controversy surrounding the book. and then stay tuned because at five it's this week's difficult conversation . difficult conversation. journalist and filmmaker andrew drury, who spent over a year with former isis bride shamima vegan, will be live in the studio to talk about his experience with her. and take us through some exclusive footage. i mean, the thing with radicalisation is there's not one way that someone gets radicalised that hands on this situation and the way. so your friend's situation, how did that happen online mostly. so if you've ever wondered why she to leave britain to join a death

wondered what it was like to be embroiled in a terror organisation . andrew will be organisation. andrew will be able to answer some of your questions. that's coming in the next hour. as ever, tell me what you think on. everything we're discussing. you can email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me . gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me. gb news. right get started. welcome again to my panel. broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also political commentator sam dowler, writer . commentator sam dowler, writer. sorry about that, sam. so uncaring of me. just leave you. listen to choking out and just saying , for goodness sake, i'm saying, for goodness sake, i'm doing my monologue . let's it's doing my monologue. let's it's making me think, well, this monologue always just kind of sucks. that's why . adam nick, sucks. that's why. adam nick, what i want to start with you, and that must start with and after that must start with lizzy caplan, because she's matching me in oh, yes. matching me in orange. oh, yes. so great minds think alike. so nicola. yes well, she's an irritant. she's annoyance. but most of all, she's dangerous and she's a danger to women because

this spill is absolutely i mean, it's ridiculous in every form because look what this predators will exploit any loophole they can to access vulnerable women to . and and of course what to. and and of course what you're saying my friends this isn't people. what about. no exactly. people that will take it's aren't it. so you can have a man that will dress as a woman and go into a woman's changing, making women feel vulnerable . making women feel vulnerable. and i this is a dreadful and i think this is a dreadful it won't get passed . i think the it won't get passed. i think the trans community need kindness. they need care and understanding. but she's just using them as political to gain her mad desire for independence, which is and it's one of jemmy krankies krankies is. yes if you don't mind me saying this stuff. and what do you think? look no fan of nicholas sturgeon i of course i don't want that to a break up of the union at all. and there's two points here really, because i'm what she's that's the glc the gender

recognition . yeah that is recognition. yeah that is something theresa may already talked about in 2019 and not can people didn't bat an eyelid at time but obviously like you know the rhetoric and that toxic of toxicity of the debate the moment is changed it changed that therefore people are to be deployed. what it's actually talking about is a piece of paper for somebody is not it's just not going is a legally binding but it doesn't change the equality act in the uk at all. it doesn't it doesn't change any . and when comes to change any. and when it comes to when comes to our women when it comes to our trans women using it makes no using toilets it makes no difference. it's not the difference. me but it's not the trans women that we're worried about that the point is about that that the point is it's to predatory it's actually to with predatory men is the problem that men that is the problem that time course taking advantage certain mean like certain situations i mean like i mean like women like with all this for women and girls this for all women and girls have fear police at have more to fear the police at this statistically than this moment statistically than they we're dealing with they have we're dealing with them well. more more them as well. we need more more to about women. exactly so

to worry about women. exactly so but then it's then you have to roll back up to the fact that is nicholas sturgeon used this. so therefore a therefore therefore it's a therefore create rift between between create this rift between between westminster holyrood and westminster and holyrood and then so that she can go see that's why we should have independence. so i mean, is she is does really that much is does she really that much about trans people or is she trying manipulative of the trying to be manipulative of the whole in to get her whole system in order to get her way? have ever way? well, when have you ever see sturgeon to break see sturgeon not tried to break up union i mean literally up the union i mean literally she went the crisis which is the reason whole crisis this is reason she whole crisis this is all talk this is the all she can talk this is the biggest brought biggest issue that she's brought in knows it's going to in and she knows it's going to be controversial because. she knows she must be aware are women are thinking women like me are thinking i mean, a man in the mean, if there was a man in the tory let's and dressed as a tory let's and he's dressed as a man, doesn't even to do man, he doesn't even need to do anything. can say that. anything. he can say that. actually, no, i'm a woman. i'm allowed to be here. and it would mean that someone like as a woman challenge him woman may well challenge him because. well, why because. i would say, well, why you get in that? you you want to get in that? you don't now. but that's don't do that now. but that's what it's situating you. what she's it's situating you. that's difference. only that's the difference. the only difference i know you do difference say i know you do feel even developed to

feel and isn't even developed to your 20 to say that's your 20 seconds to say that's not main difference. the not the main difference. the main you need any main is that you don't need any medical diagnosis and also the penod medical diagnosis and also the period to period with which you used to have to to be in the other have to dress to be in the other gender was two years that has come this certificate to come down to this certificate to go what it anyway none go into it's what it anyway none of that does. no no but of that nobody does. no no but what i'm saying is it's kind of legitimises that that singles my space for women now be space is for women can now be used just men haven't used by men just men haven't made any effort to date but they already they already can that's that's it's nothing not that's nothing it's nothing not nothing to not have women's lives still hasn't taken lives still has it hasn't taken it today with the it won't even today with the equality they've can still do that the uk up like from from that in the uk up like from from 18 in a women's refuge they 18 but in a women's refuge they still a can then still can you know a can then say i'm a woman without any hope makes no difference so that makes no difference so that makes no difference that what is in the uk. no no one is not need to talk about in scotland. we're talking about scotland and actually in scotland. actually can can do in scotland. come back and say that you are a woman you're you woman if you're a man, if you change your gender in scotland, it you can that now it could but you can do that now i've 18 but she's talking

i've over 18 but she's talking about from the of 16 so but about from the of 16 so yes but i mean to you a different the medical. yeah but sam i say medical. yeah but sam can i say this you can lead to trans this point you can lead to trans tourism because whereas tourism content because whereas a to scotland a trans could travel to scotland to have this then come over back to have this then come over back to have this then come over back to have their to the uk and have their official status say it's going to lead proper the thing. and to lead to proper the thing. and at of 60, no, not at the age of 60, no, not mentally, frontal cortex of mentally, the frontal cortex of your brain isn't fully developed into 25 years old. that's fine . into 25 years old. that's fine. yes. by that point is obviously far too for a trans person if they want what they once was because if they if they let's say example they're on say for example they're on puberty blockers they to puberty blockers. they want to they what you mean to they want what do you mean to get on compatible old but get on compatible old change but to the puberty blockers to get on the puberty blockers you have medical diagnosis, you see. that the sensible way see. so that is the sensible way you've but we're you've gone. but what we're saying also leaves saying is it then also leaves a loophole for people sort loophole for people who are sort of not you know, people to of not sure. you know, people to then go? that be i think then go? that would be i think that have to like that would have to be like a case by case basis. i think with this with everybody who is trying to has be a case by case bafis trying to has be a case by case basis because obviously people developed completely differently. developed completely differi mature point, more mature at that point, girls, all of that before 62.

but why is it a woman? is silence intimidate silence and intimidate it if you even talk about or queried even talk about this or queried this don't agree with this this or don't agree with this with this, you know gender ideology . and as we saw rosie ideology. and as we saw rosie duffield you know , which is over duffield you know, which is over the top it wasn't being sort in labour party is being in abusive relationship because you know why because you're not based on dull stuff. i think if the all the all the feminist agenda because that isn't true it's all the other mp said on twitter and with rosie out of the water by splicing the just because you're denigrating doesn't mean you have know it doesn't mean have you know it doesn't mean that that more that you're more move that more feminist somebody believes feminist than somebody believes it was keir starmer he's saying at the beginning, oh no, i agree with this. we to have these changes now we some of these and you know maybe saying you know maybe just saying all over the work is over the place to the work is was in davos having lots of smoked salmon champagne that's what is about later what you ladies is about later like it is well keir starmer doesn't know what a woman is and he's backing exactly. now

he's also backing exactly. now with one anyway. so let's see if it floats all the place. i it floats all over the place. i think this would be the downfall of the party. no won't of the labour party. no it won't be. think not realise it. be. i do think not realise it. but a woman don't like that but as a woman i don't like that sort of talk have another woman. i'm wait, let me i'm not. come. wait, let me finish. i'm not finish. as a woman i'm not comfortable with i'm and comfortable with that. i'm and actually this legislation she should be speaking should really be speaking properly scottish properly to the scottish people about implications of about it and the implications of find feel about it find how they feel about it genuinely she'll genuinely because suspect she'll find the find just like this the legislation when this council was trying to in this stuff was trying to put in this stuff where someone is or eight where someone is seven or eight or whatever decide their or whatever can decide their man or whatever can decide their man or or whatever, whatever or woman or whatever, whatever that think that was unpopular. i think she'll is equally as she'll find this is equally as important. i think think important. well, i think i think women actually you know, women actually this you know, they would they obviously they would fall two the majority two camps. i mean the majority of the that i know for example have no problems with it at all and they've never you and they've never will. you should but one of them should bring so but one of them tell won't see this tell you you won't see this nicola has shot itself in the foot let me tell you and let me just more thing. just say for one more thing. lastly, of scots oppose lastly, 4% of scots oppose independence. poulter well, independence. nick poulter well, that said actually that was said that was actually this put we put act of this we put we put act of section 35. i think they

section 35. but i think they probably still support us not one. well you just told me. welcome board. i'm nana akua welcome on board. i'm nana akua is news to the online is gb news on to the online i don't digital radio after the break. is time for the great break. it is time for the great british hour i'm british debate this hour i'm asking believe we sunak asking do you believe we sunak could government could lead this government integrity? minister integrity? the prime minister been fined after failing to wear a seatbelt . a promotional clip a seatbelt. a promotional clip from levelling for his levelling up announcement. that's from levelling for his levelling up announcement . that's the up announcement. that's the former chancellor, the chancellor allegedly paid a £1 million fine to hmrc over taxes. but can rishi sunak lead by example ? unfortunately, if he example? unfortunately, if he does send us an email gb views. gb news or tweet me at gb news i've got a pull up right now. i'm asking you that question. do you believe we should see in that can leaders government with integrity. cast your vote now we'll be after this .

good afternoon. if you're just doing where i have you, babe, don't worry. it's fine at the of the show. it's just coming up to 23 minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua is a gb news where akua this is a gb news where live online and on digital live on tv online and on digital radio. don't forget as well you can download the gb news app you can download the gb news app you can check out the shows. it's a very, app. now, before very, very good app. now, before the break, we discussing the break, we were discussing scotland's reform . let's scotland's gender reform. let's see you've been saying. see what you've been saying. emily sturgeon emily says, i trust sturgeon with let alone with anything, let alone identity. john didn't identity. john says, didn't know. we in scotland are totally outraged embarrassed to be scottish. living lunatics ruling us and becoming and more tedious. thank you for. that's good to hear. the scottish voice stacey says i do not understand sturgeon is like this. she's making scotland joke. well, she's not the only one coming. we've got rishi sunak. right. well, time the great well, it's time for the great british this hour. and british debate this hour. and i'm do you that rishi i'm asking, do you that rishi sunak can lead his government with integrity? now, the prime minister been after minister has been fined after failing seatbelt, failing to wear a seatbelt, a promotional for his promotional clip for his

levelling last year , levelling up. and last year, sunak to lead the sunak promised to lead the country with integrity and accountability at every level. in opening speeches . prime in his opening speeches. prime minister, in his 72 days at minister, but in his 72 days at the helm at least is a few more than liz truss. four. can he keep promise four months also zahawi has a £1 million fine. oh millions actually the hmrc over careless but not deliberate error over tax issues and the deputy prime dominic raab recently had to refute bullying claims for . a third of his claims for. a third of his private staff . now it's still private staff. now it's still very early in sunak's premiership, but it seems similar issues to previous are cropping up once more . shadow cropping up once more. shadow chancellor rebecca summarised it earlier . chancellor rebecca summarised it earlier. dominic raab, who's being investigated for bullying, is passing judgement on nadhim zahawi, who's just had a £1 million fine for not paying his taxes on time. and that pretty much this conservative cabinet when the minister came into office , he said that he would

office, he said that he would run a government that would have honesty integree and professionalism at heart. none of those three things are happening today or don't worry, rachael, because if you are ever in power, in fact we should be scrutinising the labour party just as equally right so of the great budget debate this i'm do you believe that rishi sunak can lead his government with integrity? by integrity? i'm joined by director lewis director of calm 26, lewis perry, and broadcast perry, writer and broadcast matthew tv matthew and reality tv commentator in the car and also form of brexit party mep . form of brexit party mep. beunda form of brexit party mep. belinda lucy right so i'm going to start with you stradlin. now we should say that he made his first speech as prime minister in october to the country so to lead with integrity what do you think. yeah i that rishi sunak by comparison to boris johnson hasn't such a bad but i say that as someone who's left leaning i mean boris johnson the way i judge it is how often i feel a desperate need to tweet nana . desperate need to tweet nana. when boris johnson was prime minister from boris johnson's prime minister just two, three,

four, five times a day with rishi sunak, it's much more infrequent having said that, he did, as we've promised, that he would pledge that he would run this or bring accountability and integrity to number 10. and we have to judge him on how. he's acted so far in the very same breath. let us not forget 70 in the very same he brought back under week after she had been forced to . that was that was forced to. that was that was that was the first. so now he's not wearing a seatbelt which is just daft. i mean, he gives us the cheery selfie video. yeah, but it's what on earth is he doing? not wearing a seat belt. and then we've got questions in the hallways like, let's move. i want to move on. i want to move to on lois. perry, lois, what's your thoughts? yeah i mean, he obviously made of obviously made an error of judgement, which he's admitted to by not wearing the seatbelt. but mean, the was but i mean, the thing he was talking about levelling up and you , his levelling up seems you know, his levelling up seems to be printing of money so that

he can pay for constituencies which know they've got a dodgy chance of winning in the south too to actually vote for him. i mean the only way that you can actually level up is to is to cut taxes and encourage growth in, the private sector, because the government doesn't make money. the private sector does. but i must say it's quite a welcome distraction for his comments about calling people who want taxes to be lowered, which include most conservative voters idiots. yeah, well, let's bnngin voters idiots. yeah, well, let's bring in let's bring in belinda to lucy . yeah. hi. look, having to lucy. yeah. hi. look, having integrity doesn't mean you don't make mistakes . integrity doesn't mean you don't make mistakes. i integrity doesn't mean you don't make mistakes . i mean, come on. make mistakes. i mean, come on. you know, i don't trust any human this earth that sells themself as safe infallible. you know, we all make mistakes . you know, we all make mistakes. point is, you apologise . and to point is, you apologise. and to be quite frank, there are far serious accusations. you can throw it rishi other than a mistake not wearing a seatbelt . mistake not wearing a seatbelt. you know, he's. he's pathetic, pitiful that a five point plan

that was supposed to be inspirational was was the bare minimum of what any prime minister should be suggest saying to a country that he would do know grow the economy, cut that hospital, whatever it was it was boring. and on the inspirational i think the problem with rishi that he he lacks communicate skills the less he tweet than the less he does these video clips the better you think you're going to get cut off. we just want action , people you that well a lot of people argued partygate they broke that they made i mean these are laws. he's broken the law. narinder i think it's time to admit this. tory good government is like a professionally run criminal organisation and how anyone could defend . what is going on could defend. what is going on right now mean. the second sign rishi sunak's had his wife was non—dom and he's paying money to get in the south and he hasn't sorted out the strike process . sorted out the strike process. and i don't know about they're paid money to get votes in the

south. i'm not sure about that. it doesn't look, not that they were, but. what do you mean broken the law to admit paid votes in the south? what are you saying say acting saying when we say he's acting it up, how he so much money in the south buy votes in the south just to buy votes in the south just to buy votes in the south? it was to know that this government has got no integrity not this nadhim integrity and not this nadhim zahawi the tax returns are as transparent as mud. he's got away with millions is criminal. it's criminal is a criminal government that's. come, they must be faking . i think you've must be faking. i think you've going to be . you've got to be going to be. you've got to be really . when you talk about really. when you talk about criminal behaviour. nadhim zahawi nadhim zahawi is not broken. the law. he seems to have paid a fine the fine seems to have been about a pounds hmrc . i'm not a defender of this , . i'm not a defender of this, but i have to say he is under what is what he's done. the audience always tell us the agreed that it was careless was not deliberate. there is a difference tax evasion which is

criminal and tax avoidance ? criminal and tax avoidance? well, he seems to have avoided tax . he's had well, he seems to have avoided tax. he's had to pay. but it's not that's not good but i don't consider him a no. no he's it's not criminal but it's morally , not criminal but it's morally, morally bankrupt to do that because, you know, it's not going look unlike . we going to look unlike. we actually break the law by actually did break the law by not wearing a seatbelt. that is a law. yeah can i just say that the morrison speaking once the main morrison speaking once can just say that the main can i just say that the main difference between tax and tax avoidance seems be the amount avoidance seems to be the amount of you've got in the of cash that you've got in the bank to. make sure that it is legal or not legal. but having said that, there are good folks actually tweeted that five years ago. think now five years ago. i think now five years after the seatbelt law came out, the keir starmer is actually he did a little video from , the did a little video from, the back of a car not wearing seatbelt as well. we'll have a look that if he could do that to see if you can find that if that is the case. i just also say is the case. and i just also say that i talking to a tory that i was talking to a tory party donor on and he said that the way that rishi sunak is treating party voters, donors and he said margaret

and everybody. he said margaret thatcher literally be thatcher would literally be turning not rolling in her turning if not rolling in her and endlessly . oh my gosh. i and endlessly. oh my gosh. i think is a huge storm in the in a teacup, to be quite honest . i a teacup, to be quite honest. i don't think the general public are going to be panicked that suddenly we have a terrible leader because he forgot put a seatbelt on in the back of the car, the positive is that car, that the positive is that it's to everyone put your seatbelt on so that's a good thing that's out it but we thing that's out of it but we cannot expect politicians to cannot expect politicians not to make mistakes and i say this about labour and greens and everyone else is focusing they saw a mistake. we have to have forgiven it . you know, you had forgiven it. you know, you had keir starmer in 2020 in a collision a cyclist and he didn't stick around talk to the police about it that wasn't great. but do i condemn you? go and have a look at that . no, no, and have a look at that. no, no, no . tea party have done in the no. tea party have done in the nonh no. tea party have done in the north sea police . belinda, north sea police. belinda, enough. you can't make an excuse up to excuse up excuses . the up to excuse up excuses. the worst government in my lifetime . they get away with breaking law and still staying in power.

resign. resign what is it? resignation. that's probably just. just something that started not just very , very started not just very, very brief. those who agree with on this as well. this is right now this as well. this is right now this is her point in the green room . what he did sooner was room. what he did sooner was decide to take the seatbelt off. i don't think forgot to take the seat of exactly the number one. number ten, suppose he took it off briefly in order to make the film. what does that say about the man's judgement? yeah, i don't know what the laws of the seat about it is. so sorry. i'm sorry. what people one woman leader is someone the lower court is that to stop the boat people crime yeah but they asked about public is something that needs to focus not these tiny little flaws that humans may have we once again listen running out of time we're going to have sounds. i'm going to have to wrap this up just zahawi, though, released a

statement early today . to 2022 statement early today. to 2022 years ago i co—founded a company called i'm incredibly proud of what we achieved when we sat when we said i didn't have the money or the expertise go it alone. so i asked my father to help the process took found help the process he took found a shares in the business in exchange for some capital and his invaluable guidance following discussions with hmrc. they father was they agreed that my father was entitled fund shares and entitled to fund the shares and yougov though they agreed yougov though. they agreed they disagreed the exact disagreed about the exact allocation. they concluded that this a callous and not deliberate error. chose to deliberate error. i chose to settle matter and pay settle the matter and pay what they was due i want to say they said was due i want to say thank you very much to lois perry. you much lois perry. thank you so much lois beunda perry. thank you so much lois belinda lucy started in the belinda to lucy started in the car with me i'm not coy this is on tv online and on digital radio . the break we will radio. the break we will continue with our great debate. i'm asking, do you believe we should seen that can lead this government was integrity. you'll hear the thoughts of my panel broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy a political cundy as a political commentator. sam dowler. stay tuned speaks tuned at 5:00 for speaks difficult conversation and have you ever wondered why former

isa's bride shamima bacon decided to leave britain to join a death cult or it was like to be embroiled in a organisation? well, journalist and filmmaker andrew druery , who spent over andrew druery, who spent over a year and a half with her, will be live in the studio to us through some of the exclusive footage he'll sharing footage that he'll be sharing with me . i mean, the thing with with me. i mean, the thing with radicalisation is there's not one that someone gets one way that someone gets radicalised ends this radicalised is ends on this situation and the way. so your friends , how did that happen. friends, how did that happen. online mostly . well, that's all online mostly. well, that's all to come first. let's get your latest news headlines headlines . nana, thank you. good afternoon. i'm tatiana sanchez. in the gb newsroom, former nadhim zahawi says his error was found to be careless but not deliberate after labour for him to be sacked . mr. zahawi to be sacked. mr. zahawi released a statement in response to reports he paid a penalty as part of a multi—million pound tax settlement over sale of

shares in yougov. that's the polling company he founded . the polling company he founded. the conservative party chairman , the conservative party chairman, the hmrc, have accepted his version of events. but shadow chancellor rachel reeves believes , his rachel reeves believes, his position is untenable . dominic position is untenable. dominic raab, who's being for bullying, is passing judgement on nadhim zahawi , who's just had a £1 zahawi, who's just had a £1 million fine for not paying his taxes on time and that much epitomises this conservative safe cabinet. when the prime minister came into office. he that he would run a government that he would run a government that would have honesty, integrity and professionalism at heart. none of those three things are happening today. heart. none of those three things are happening today . the things are happening today. the prime minister been described as a total liability and faces a renewed wave of . criticism from renewed wave of. criticism from labour and peace after being fined for a second time by police . rishi sunak apologised police. rishi sunak apologised for, failing to wear a seatbelt whilst filming a social media clip earlier this week in the back of a moving car. he was also fined for breaking lockdown

restrictions in 2020 and has been accused of showing the same disregard for rules as boris johnson to the country . one of johnson to the country. one of the uk's richest women has been charged in connection with a human investigation. the co—founder of the bus firm stagecoach de—man globe , three stagecoach de—man globe, three members of her family were charged on thursday in connection alleged immigration offences . a spokeswoman for offences. a spokeswoman for de—man says she strongly denies the allegations and intends to vigorously defend herself and her family . and andy murray has her family. and andy murray has been knocked out of the australian open after finally running out of in the third round. former world number one lost in fourth sets to spain's roberto bautista murray, who's 35 and has a metal spent over 10 hours on court in his first two matches, which both went five, says he's the last british to fall in the singles . tv online

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hello. good afternoon. welcome it's just coming up to 39 minutes after 4:00. if you're just joining. welcome. this is gb news we are the people's channel. i'm nana acquit. now it's channel. i'm nana acquit. now wsfime channel. i'm nana acquit. now it's time for our great british debate. this town hall . do you debate. this town hall. do you believe we see soon? i can lead this government with integrity. now rishi has been fined after failed a seatbelt in failed to wear a seatbelt in a promotional clip for his levelling up announcement in rishi speech , prime rishi sunak's speech, prime minister, he promised to lead the are his the country and these are his words, integrity words, his integrity professionalism and accountability at every level. but in his 72 days as prime minister, has he his promise, for example, johnson's visit to holly has paid a penalty to hmrc. admittedly, it was something that happened a long

time ago over what he deemed to be a careless but delivered, not delivered error. now it's still early on sunak's , but it is. early on in sunak's, but it is. is it off to good start? so for the great debate this hour, i'm asking, do you believe that he can actually lead government with well, let's with integrity? well, let's see what make of that. i'm what my panel make of that. i'm joined now by broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. that's a political commentator, sam dowler . so i'm going to start dowler. so i'm going to start with seatbelt gate. be with you. seatbelt gate. be thinking on isn't it like somebody would have had to watch it and then it go through. i mean it's ridiculous to see that off at the beginning where she probably doesn't think needs a seatbelt, especially can handle a bazooka so well in his in his promo video. i mean. yeah. i mean , is. i just think it mean, is. i just think it obviously it's a silly selling mistake. he does that. he obviously needs to be fined. but like it's just his little that chip away at this and say why is that acceptable? why is it the partygate with the cake where he apparently stuck his order on the why is that

the corner? why is that acceptable? because the whole premise wasn't, just premise of it wasn't, just because but because it was covid, but because it was covid, but because broke law. so he because broke the law. so he broke law. he's broken the broke the law. he's broken the law actually, if he law again. and actually, if he was told to take the seatbelt off, which i don't believe my personal wasn't personal view is that he wasn't wearing it. but he's saying that he was told to do it was, then told law, and he told to break the law, and he adhered. along adhered. he went along with that. he probably just just excuses, trying to blame somebody. someone. told somebody. someone. someone told me but classic. me to do it. but it's classic. that's that's what it that's what that's what it seems. current tory party seems. the current tory party seems. the current tory party seem to do. it's always somebody else's make a mistake and else's fault. make a mistake and it's else's fault. it's somebody else's fault. and this seems the whole this then it seems the whole thing it's more. more thing is just. it's more. more of they are just so of a reason why they are just so of a reason why they are just so of touch with the british people. oh, i forgot to pay £1,000,000 and i'm in contact . £1,000,000 and i'm in contact. really? i wish i had really? i wish. i wish i had enough pay £1,000,000 enough money to pay £1,000,000 in exactly the fact in time. well, exactly the fact that forgot. well, whatever. that he forgot. well, whatever. all that you all that was something that you missed or missed the procedure or whatever. was what did whatever. but it was what he did wasn't illegal. no, it was a procedural thing. but then i think these sort of loopholes sort of things that i'm expecting them to close and just they're they're bills

they're just they're just bills they're just they're just bills they're building up again. they're just building up again. it's oh, on, it's just like, oh, come on, guys these aren't difficult guys like these aren't difficult things. like that could have been easily avoided. this been so easily avoided. this stupid are stupid seatbelt. here we are talking on the news talking about it on the news when thought he needed when he just thought he needed to just wear it to have done it. just wear it like normal person. oh yeah. i mean, he's got another fine second. fine. i suppose you didn't fined not being in didn't get fined not being in a booster seat might say no. serious. there's no. no seriousness. that was a careless and stupid error. seriousness. that was a careless and stupid error . and he started and stupid error. and he started off this campaign saying . we've off this campaign saying. we've got integrity . i'm going to be got integrity. i'm going to be so professional . you're going to so professional. you're going to get honesty and none those things. and i'm sorry all the strikes were happening. we've got the high of living. he literally ghosted the country. yeah.i literally ghosted the country. yeah. i mean he was hiding. i what was on your chin and one time i was like, well, it's like, well, we got he gone and i am sorry, he has really let us down. i'm so underwhelmed by his performance. i can't tell . and performance. i can't tell. and this is another thing. the tory now stupid thing not wearing a clumsy . you know how stupid were

clumsy. you know how stupid were we supposed to look up to the prime minister? it's hard enough for me to. look up to the thousands. for me to. look up to the thousands . well well , this is thousands. well well, this is about as he's done that i didn't lie about him. just start doing what he's said . know? start what he's said. know? start practising what you preach about with belt . about but you know with belt. about but you know what, though i think this smacks of the sort of it's almost like they don't even the law doesn't apply to them. we'll just do it this way. this was always done it the fact that it was so classy that nobody noticed since suggests to me that this is something do all something that he would do all the even though he said the time even though he said somebody else or whatever told him to which if somebody him to do which if somebody tells that tells you to do something that is wrong you're going to do is even. he was being one of us one of his handlers whatever be like even. he was being one of us one of hknow|dlers whatever be like even. he was being one of us one of hknow take; whatever be like even. he was being one of us one of hknow take that |tever be like even. he was being one of us one of hknow take that offer be like even. he was being one of us one of hknow take that off. it's; like you know take that off. it's ruining ruining your ruining your it's ruining your beautiful i'm not even ruining your it's ruining your bea even i'm not even ruining your it's ruining your bea even thinking i'm not even ruining your it's ruining your bea even thinking about|ot even ruining your it's ruining your bea even thinking about the even not even thinking about the legal they sweep legal things they all sweep under carpet. it under the under the carpet. it under the carpet. it's like like the former. okay. and how can you

say careless, you know, say it's careless, you know, not, a tax million not, you know with a tax million millions pounds. it'sjust not, you know with a tax million miljust. pounds. it'sjust not, you know with a tax million miljust claimingis. it's just not, you know with a tax million miljust claiming illegals st not, you know with a tax million miljust claiming illegals at it's just claiming illegals at the at media establishments like the at media establishments like the independent did to not let them ask questions . the independent did to not let them ask questions. this the independent did to not let them ask questions . this tax them ask questions. this tax money isn't corruption step by step by step. but the tax thing was a legal loophole or and he was a legal loophole or and he was following the law but problem with this is that because you've got money if you've got money then you can pay people to find these loopholes. you're paying loopholes. so you're paying less. only do that less. so they only do that you're going. you're not evading tax. avoiding you're you're going. you're not evading tax. using avoiding you're you're going. you're not evading tax. using theseing you're you're going. you're not evading tax. using these schemes.>u're you're going. you're not evading tax. using these schemes. but still using these schemes. but like the non—dom status, which is of which is is another of those which is perfectly but because perfectly legitimate but because they've money, they've got so much money, they're and they're all using it. and i think these people are so think what these people are so detached . yeah, well we detached. yeah, well we shouldn't be running the whole donald trump thing. he went when he was saying, well, only a stupid person would, you know, not like no not the loopholes pay like no taxes, everything . why is he taxes, everything. why is he taking private jets for things and that's why i think he wanted to see it the car so badly because he was getting sick. can you use the car? he forgot to

put the seatbelts because put the seatbelts on because he's i'm not in private he's like, i'm not in private jet because he's getting so god, but kind training because but god a kind training because they wouldn't because they wouldn't to trying wouldn't be running to trying get money. a so on get him all the money. a so on to what's going on in to touch on what's going on in real all them are. well real life all of them are. well it that way. well show is it seems that way. well show is nothing without you and your views. that's welcome a great british their british voice. their opportunity. and opportunity. be on the show and tell they think about tell us what they think about the we're discussing this tell us what they think about the going we're discussing this tell us what they think about the going toe're discussing this tell us what they think about the going to head scussing this tell us what they think about the going to head over;ing this tell us what they think about the going to head over to; this i'm going to head over to bristol to get some real opinion here voice the here from deputies voice and the harris lee, what do you think no seatbelt honestly ridiculous i feel like i'm i have a slightly opinion here but i'm no i'm no huge fan of rishi sunak's but these fpns are a bit ridiculous . i don't view them as a matter of political integrity at. all we're all human. it was a mistake. they're not criminal convictions. and arguably rishi and boris should have even got the first fpns the first partygate fpns . pathetic and partygate fpns. pathetic and

labour can get off their high horse. i'll be fed up listening to them today and even worse, they bang on about integra . but they bang on about integra. but keir starmer has breached the npp's code of conduct notable times. i would declaring registered interests like so is david lammy barry gardiner accepted half a million quid from a chinese spy which he kept. i don't even get me started on keir starmer campaigning for a second referendum after his side. but having said all of that and i'm a member and the entire foundation of rishi premiership does lack integrity he stabbed bofisin does lack integrity he stabbed boris in the back he lost the leadership election got rid of trust and then was installed the tory west members didn't vote want him all vote for him as pm nor did the public . you know, nor did the public. you know, let's face it, getting rid of forest and i said it before , one forest and i said it before, one of the biggest mistakes in the history of the conservative party. so yeah, you could look at it as as that actually rishi sunak hasn't got a huge amount of integrity there, but i still

think labour are a lot worse. yeah, possibly. possibly thank you very much. leigh harris. nicely although i nicely stayed on as although i don't whether that woman don't know whether that woman was don't have clarity was a spy. we don't have clarity , but we've got that chinese woman just know. woman was a spy. just you know. okay harris he's okay that's the harris he's great british voice. he can be one, too. the way, why don't one, too. by the way, why don't you email if fancy taking you email if you fancy taking part gb at gbnews.uk, part gb views at gbnews.uk, you're nana akua this is you're me. i'm nana akua this is gb are live . we're on gb news. we are live. we're on tv, we're online and are on digital radio now after the break is royal round up time. the royal rug necessarily has lost us and royal biographer angela will be all things angela levin will be all things palace . a new polling palace related. a new polling suggests that prince harry and meghan's have plunged meghan's ratings have plunged both uk and the state, both in the uk and the state, following of harry's following the release of harry's memoir, the and then at five, i'll be joined filmmaker andrew drew, will be telling us drew, which will be telling us what it takes and what it's really like to be close to the former east. shamima meghan after her for over 18 after filming her for over 18 months. coming after months. that's coming up after this .

good afternoon. it's just coming up to 10 minutes to 5:00. this is gb views on tv online and digital radio. i'm nana akua here now. there is always something on in the royal household. and this week been no different. harry and meghan back in the headlines. the documentaries , the second documentaries, the second highest document of all highest ranked document of all time on netflix in america. harry's popularity has plummeted to an all time low . that's to an all time low. that's following the release of his memoir . and charles's memoir. and king charles's donated memoir. and king charles's donate d £250 million to support donated £250 million to support offshore wind farms. now, each saturday, i'd love to give you rundown. and who better to delve into royal log, as is into than the royal log, as is a nicholas, who joins me now has us lovely to see you. right. so talk to me. what's been going on with you? hello, nana. thank you . so i know you've making some changes. . so i know you've making some changes . yes yeah. come on, tell

changes. yes yeah. come on, tell us about it very briefly. we can get stuck into it . yeah very get stuck into it. yeah very briefly. explain to my two channels the body language guy, the royal rogue. now are totally differentiated in terms the royal family. i'm going to covering that on the royal rogue on youtube. and yes, harry popularity has been in declining since the book of spear. the publication of his book. and i think it's because he respected people to be more or empathic with him but it was quite the opposite . i think all the opposite. i think all the stories he revealed on his book actually have the opposite effect on the public and especially on the american pubuc. especially on the american public . well, let's take a look, public. well, let's take a look, because i know you've got a clever harry when he's being interviewed on an american show. let's just us through that. some of look, i think, first of all. oh, nothing it oh, really? nothing obvious. it was a it was a slow deteriorate eating situation . that's the eating situation. that's the part that's the point . we're at

part that's the point. we're at an interview , boy, right there . an interview, boy, right there. well, so what do we say next to some boxers on the face of what if we can run that while still talking us through? so what are we saying? what are we looking at that? well, the first thing the most important thing to the most important thing is to remember that laughs that remember that the laughs that you clip are just you in this clip are just artificial . they did not have artificial. they did not have any any kind of audience. so they're trying to go along without any audience for, that's security reasons, said he filmed that the day before . and we're that the day before. and we're seeing that harry has this pressing of the lips is a bit anxious he is has very tense fingers because there's some script in this show that he has to follow that to this because he's talking about the a band that has well some part his body frozen is talking about that there is comes a joke there comes a joke. there is a script . and then he says the that is

wrong word is that set opposite way, which is depicted in the next clip. and you that he it tries improvise you know you see that he brings his it tongue to his cheek is to think at that moment do i go with something improvise that right now. and he went with that and that's what happens the second clip. mhm oh i want to take a look at that second clip that i because is this what you're talking about. all right. similar to this experience i'm like yeah. yes. unlike what i'm like going that's how you can you're doing great. you're doing oh, you're doing . great that's kind of doing. great that's kind of sarcastic the way the guy's you're doing great. yes. because harry said , like, it's pretty harry said, like, it's pretty much like this this this event. he had to say on like this event . he said that the event of his body part been frozen was very bad, unlike this event, this interview . right. it's like interview. right. it's like connecting the joke to bracing ,

connecting the joke to bracing, so to speak. colbert program. but he said the opposite is like this , is this very much of a this, is this very much of a mess , a painful situation? and mess, a painful situation? and that's why? colbert says only what? like trying to correct twice on like on like what? like that it was not in the script. couldn't follow the script. and that's why you see harry's face that's why you see harry's face thatis that's why you see harry's face that is completely frozen like i messed that up and that's he said you're doing great. like go on, you're doing great. it tries to just move on. i think harry is like empower thinks that all the attention is empowering to him to take chances and he is slowly , i think , quickly slowly, i think, quickly realising that the effect that this book had on the public and all the jokes that have sparked from this, what is it is the opposite effect that are relatable the story should have

had in the public. but there is no relatable , there's no moral no relatable, there's no moral to this story . well, let's bring to this story. well, let's bring in angela levin . angela writes, in angela levin. angela writes, i'm a fighter and a mindset. and what are your thoughts all of this? i mean, what's been going on? what you got? what have you seen? well, i think one of the things is very making people live. asked where she was and she's not there, she's left harry completely alone . and some harry completely alone. and some people are saying, well, she's done that so he can absorb all this spotlight. she doesn't want to take any of spotlight away from . but i don't think that at from. but i don't think that at all. i think that she, you know, can't bear not be in the spotlight and also in the in his book where he thinks people without mentioning his family, of course, he says , you know, of course, he says, you know, thanks to her, he couldn't have done the book. thank you. thank you.thank done the book. thank you. thank you. thank you. you there's four of them there. and i think well , sort of wife would let the

husband go through with that with those terrible things about winning in his personal the first time wouldn't you say darling i'm pleased anything that's going bit farther in it you're not going to look good he looks awful and so from book to me she i think a real error that she didn't help him and actually tell him because he does she did help him negative. did we know exactly that if she tells something, if she says he's got to do something, does it but here just left him to the lions and i think she's quite savvy about what works with people and what does and i don't think she is she is quite savvy she's more than harry you've got more experience and harry and she would know that this wouldn't go

down well and she's just left him . she's obviously seen so you him. she's obviously seen so you know set. yeah i think that's going be very interesting because she's just nowhere there just support him . yes. it's not just support him. yes. it's not a good look is it at all. what has this i'm going to bring back in very briefly has this what do you think of this? i mean, like harry talks about weeing in his pants before he went to . see pants before he went to. see yeah i think i think i agree i completely agree with angela that meghan should have done something like just can't go and say this things this way and i know that there can be some self—doubt brocade and humour thatis self—doubt brocade and humour that is that is that is always welcome. but there has be some kind of change from the start, as he said from the start, i was worried to the man that i become but we never get to see the man he became and if that reminds me of his speech at the un. when it was a mess , he was totally

it was a mess, he was totally disconnected. his body language , his words and was not there. and we know that meghan is it's is a decent public speaker. so you begin to wonder , why you begin to wonder, why couldn't you just say you should practise? let's practise the let's go through this part to help him in some way and not make him look like a fool, because that's what ends up looking like what he has looked like a fool in this. i mean, his is made himself ridicule us. there's been little book for children about him and his private . there's been comedians private. there's been comedians in america making absolute fun of him. tik tok in loads of programmes and i really think thatis programmes and i really think that is looks so ridiculous that it's some nobody will ever trust him again or want him somewhere . they'll be wary of the drug taking. is he taken today or ,

taking. is he taken today or, you know, what's the matter with him? what he look so miserable and stressed? i mean, i think poor man , it is poor for the poor man, it is poor for the poor man, it is poor for the poor man, it is poor for the poor man . finished, but he's not poor man. finished, but he's not got the money. but actually very sad to somebody i saw. so ebullient and full of energy 2017 and i did my book on him to just come tumbling down and be a pathetic individual who who does makes mistake after mistake. oh, listen , i've got to say thank listen, i've got to say thank you so much to both of you and essence and rick ross as he's a he , the royal roeg. check him he, the royal roeg. check him out on youtube. he is a sensation and of course, royal. andrew levin, thank you so for joining me. thank you so much for your thoughts. well, if you've just changed and stay with we've a very, very with me, we've got a very, very exciting coming up. this tv exciting coming up. this is tv news online and on digital news on tv online and on digital radio. in next radio. multi—cam in the next hour.

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but not deliberate error in relation to the sale of shares in yougov. the polling company he founded. mr. zahawi been under pressure following claims he tried to avoid paying tax and labour have said his position untenable. dominic raab is being investigated for bullying, is passing judgement on. the theme is the hallway who's just a £1 million fine for not paying his taxes on time and that pretty much this conservative cabinet when . the prime minister came when. the prime minister came into office said that he would run a government that would have honesty intake and professionalism at heart. none of those three things are happening today. of those three things are happening today . the prime happening today. the prime minister been described as a total liability by labour and faces a renewed of criticism from mp after fined for a second time by police . rishi sunak time by police. rishi sunak apologised for failing to wear a seatbelt whilst filming social media clip earlier this week .

media clip earlier this week. the prime minister was also fined year for breaking lockdown restrictions in 2020. and he's been accused of showing the same disregard for rules as former bofis disregard for rules as former boris johnson. financial secretary james murray says mr. sunak has lost control. just when you thought the conservatives couldn't get any more ridiculous . rishi sunak more ridiculous. rishi sunak shows that he can't even fasten his own f out. and i think this speaks speaks volumes about the fact that the prime minister is not is not in control and compact. keir starmer rishi sunak keir starmer has been at the world economic forum this week promoting the uk , promoting week promoting the uk, promoting economic growth and rishi sunak can't design seat belt. i think people will make their own judgement about who's going to lead the country . but deputy lead the country. but deputy prime minister dominic robb has defended mr. sunak , saying he's defended mr. sunak, saying he's a human being who made a mistake. the minister put his hand straight up. it was a

mistake. he's apologised for it. he takes responsibility for it. he takes responsibility for it. he hasn't actually gone down that path of blaming else he's taken responsibility. it he'll pay taken responsibility. it he'll pay the fine. he's a human as well as a incredibly busy politician. the prime minister got a frantic, hectic , but he's got a frantic, hectic, but he's made it clear. got a frantic, hectic, but he's made it clear . there's no made it clear. there's no excuses. made it clear. there's no excuses . the founder of a made it clear. there's no excuses. the founder of a dame and glowing strongly disputed what she calls malicious allegations made against her after being charged with human trafficking offences. police say three other people understood to be of her family were on thursday in connection with alleged immigration offences . alleged immigration offences. miss close denies the allegations made against her and her family . an adviser to her family. an adviser to ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy says indecision over whether to send german made tanks to ukraine is costing lives . western allies agreed to lives. western allies agreed to send more nato weaponry to ukraine, but remains reluctant to provide its leopard tanks or

allow other countries to donate theirs, despite increasing pressure to do so . ukraine has pressure to do so. ukraine has urgently request tanks to counter russia's planned spring offensive . the met office has offensive. the met office has issued a yellow weather warning for fog tomorrow, but says the worst of the cold spell is over. the warning will be in place until 11 am. on monday and cover the south east of england and may cause disruption to flights with drivers being warned of icy conditions as well . temperatures are expected to climb next week right across the country and andy murray's impressive winning run at the australian open come to an end after yet another display in round three. the three time grand slam champion knocked out by spain's roberto agut despite a fourth set battle. murray now 35, and plays with a hip, was taken to five sets in his first two matches, finishing his second round tie after forearm local time on friday. fellow brit don evans also earlier

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filming, former isis bride. show me the vaguest. i mean, have you ever wondered shamima chose to leave this country at 15 to join a death cult? i mean, who would do that? andrew, be in the studio revealing exclusive studio revealing some exclusive and giving his honest of his and giving us his honest of his time in the camp with her. now, this will be coming up very if you do not go anywhere. and then for the great for just you do not go anywhere. and then for the great forjust debate for the great for just debate this i'm asking, should this hour, i'm asking, should someone for someone earning 35 grand for using banks sanitarium pieces that nurses need to budget better if they are turning to food banks on their current wages? now, this comes as mp lee anderson came under fire after he tweeted out an image of his aides detailing how she was able to manage her finance on £30,000 a year . well, to manage her finance on £30,000 a year. well, as ever, you can get in touch. email me gb views at gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news news . and now it is time news news. and now it is time for this week's difficult. isis shamima, think is in the

spotlight once more following . spotlight once more following. the release of a bbc podcast which i think is somewhat ridiculous that was even allowed that but she details a journey to syria. now she fled london back in 2015 to join the terror organisation as a teenager alongside two others. supporters claim that she was groomed by. sis. well, i thought this would dump her as a traitor who knowingly and, willingly joined a death cult . now, knowingly and, willingly joined a death cult. now, in knowingly and, willingly joined a death cult . now, in the knowingly and, willingly joined a death cult. now, in the bbc's latest episode of the podcast, i am not a monster , shamima am not a monster, shamima discusses in detail how she was smuggled syria. how you read as a journalist and filmmaker who spent months with the former us is finally getting to know her on a personal level. i mean the thing with radicalised is there's not one way that someone gets radicalised is opinions on their situation. and the way. so your situation how did that happen online mostly now in the past and express great sympathy with to name a situation . yes. with to name a situation. yes. it's been very outspoken about how he felt manipulated and used by her. i'm pleased . say that

by her. i'm pleased. say that joining me in the is journalist and filmmaker andrew drury. andrew, really good to meet you. wow good afternoon. you 56. you look fabulous. you. i'll tell you anything. so what it is, i want to. to warn people. i'll start with you . first of all, start with you. first of all, tell me a bit about yourself then, because how come you ended up going this particular place and doing this particular interview? would for the interview? who would go for the first was a mistake. first time? it was a mistake. i'm filming documentary called i'm filming a documentary called danger and. it was a die danger zone and. it was a die off and it's kind of a because all these oxbridge journalists couldn't get meet because couldn't get to meet her because she sending them away. so i thought, give it a go, just thought, i'll give it a go, just a turned up and. we a normal bloke turned up and. we were introduced to her and she did say no to me at first and then i had a kind, a prepared video. i did netflix documentary. i showed that when i orphans war, it i was with orphans of war, it might on a heartstrings. might play on a heartstrings. and it did. wow. so you were in syria. was. and just to do this thing , managed see her. thing, she managed to see her. yeah and she saw the video. and then how did sort of transfer of

then how did sort of transfer of the relationship after ? i mean, the relationship after? i mean, we have about two hour and i wasn't to ask about the wasn't going to ask about the heads, was going to heads, the pens i was going to ask. i asked about ask. i just asked him about personally how was feeling, personally how she was feeling, how felt, the how her family felt, and the general not really. general staff. not not really. a lot of interest. but we'd made this bond and where bond had happenedis this bond and where bond had happened is when we were saying goodbye. i could goodbye. i asked if i could a hand and she said, can i have a hug. we did hug. and at that hug. and we did hug. and at that point, when hug happened, i felt guilty immediately. why? because at done. but at what she had done. but i still did it. and i had that living with me right through the 18 continued, 18 months, although continued, i had intention ever see them had no intention ever see them again , and i felt quite euphoric again, and i felt quite euphoric about that because she'd become about that because she'd become a bit of a celebrity for right or wrong . and then i went home or wrong. and then i went home and then was contacted by media outlets . so the next one was the outlets. so the next one was the famous tv one where she went live. so when you gave that hug and everything, then you felt guilty. what was your thoughts of her as a person in your mind? how did you feel about her? the first felt sorry. her? first meeting i felt sorry. her? yeah.i first meeting i felt sorry. her? yeah. i thought she had been

groomed. that's what groomed. because that's what everybody thought everybody has said. i thought she radicalised and it'd she was radicalised and it'd been a period of time and i felt. sorry, i got a daughter her she kind of her age and she kind of frightened rabbit at that particular time . and i've come particular time. and i've come back and thinking, oh , she, you back and thinking, oh, she, you know, this is really quite a sad and i didn't think she went there thought she someone there i thought she was someone had there was had her go in there was interested in that because a lot of people do say she was groomed but you know how did she come across when she what did she tell you the things with the bins and things like that or did you ask about later on. i did you ask about later on. i did you later on later i asked i asked about the suicide vest because they bothered me because javid obvious so javid it obvious said. so suicide she categorically no shoot in the eyes and don't believe her. i didn't believe her. then no, i didn't. i didn't believe i think she had the capability . and that was because capability. and that was because dunng capability. and that was because during that second period we started, we phone numbers because i was told that could have one call a week and i

wanted to, you know, continue our story . but wanted to, you know, continue our story. but that call it became texas . and in those texas became texas. and in those texas those those texas over the next penod those those texas over the next period of three months, finally tell me what she was like from my last visit. yeah. so. so when we have some is some the messages that were sent. yeah to talk to me about some of those messages. then why what was it about the messages changed your mind about. i mean when i was there, i mean everybody says did she really kids? you must she really have kids? you must have that that fight baby have heard that that fight baby that she had and she did have children. she said, the children. she said, i was the first year and showed first year and she showed these pictures because pictures of baby because she trusted me. she at one time said i was the closest to her. so she opened showed me his opened up, showed me his picture. picture of picture. there was a picture of a boy that had a chunk a little boy that had a chunk around face, a normal senior around his face, a normal senior that was a baby. i when i came back, i texted and said, you know really sorry. know what, i'm really sorry. that really feel sad that made me really feel sad that lost her that you, your child lost her and to me, i'm over that and said to me, i'm over that part of my life. and it was so casual. well, and so she said, that doesn't make me sad anymore. and completely

anymore. and for me, completely changed. a private die changed. i had a private die when was so i know what when i was young, so i know what holding death of a child is holding the death of a child is like. holding the death of a child is uke.she holding the death of a child is like. she didn't seem to have any emotion, totally emotionless about of these about the death of these children. everybody about the death of these children. trauma. everybody about the death of these children. trauma. it'sverybody about the death of these children. trauma. it's that'sydy goes such trauma. it's that's her for the second time her being for the second time you when you went what happened then. film in the when we then. well film in the when we are why are doing the live are why are you doing the live broadcast with the most people know that it was also a life she had tantrums was the first time i saw of a tantrum really. so we were filming we stopped filming. we went to a break and she ran off tears. and i this is kind of tantrum. she wasn't coming back. so i convinced her to come back on. i'd gone over way over it. so that was another facet of her. why did you have a tantrum? what was she being annoyed about? because a she's about? because she's a she's a diva. that's she is. she diva. that's what she is. she she courts all this press loves it. she loves the attention. and she quietly see quite she she can quietly see quite clearly see that every time . see clearly see that every time. see her the last visit. i i was her by the last visit. i i was talking to a trinidadian that was having a few problems that she introduced to. and because i

wasn't to talking shamima, she feigned an illness child, feigned an illness like a child, which really didn't all which i really didn't have all attention on her. she's a attention wasn't on her. she's a narcissist in my view wow now apparently there was a fourth person that was the person at the beginning. this shocked me. if i had a podcast and it really made me angry. so i was listening to the first episode how she described she was how she described how she was trafficked, looking on trafficked, was looking on onune trafficked, was looking on online searching some online online and searching some online things told me about things. but she told me about girl called samina and sharmeen it was the one that took a fruit that. the travel she took across the border or explained to get to the border. but the bbc didn't didn't show that. so and i'm surprised. well, we have a clip as this this is one of let's let's see the clip as well i shall be more careful . let's let's see the clip as well i shall be more careful. i'm sure your school too. yeah was my closest friend. or she so. so she was subject some sort of radicalisation . she was her radicalisation. she was her story the same as yours, you know. it's different. and it's also actually very sad story.

yeah if she had not been radicalised , don't think we radicalised, don't think we would have been radicalised . no, would have been radicalised. no, i mean , your mum isn't here to i mean, your mum isn't here to defend herself. of course that is. yeah. no opinion on that. but it's interesting that that's the sort of. yeah idea of her character that you got from her. what were the conditions like this camp that she was in condition ago? it got worse and worse when i was there because they were bringing more women in that was still affiliated icis so last i went, rocs were so the last i went, rocs were thrown at us, but she's living in relatively comfort. she has air conditioning in a tent, she has a tv , they have discos at has a tv, they have discos at night between girls, the western girls. so they dance to music, they go to shop in there. they've got a shopping area. so it isn't what you think. it's not you think it's just a tented village. and how did she say that? children died then? that? her children died then? because ironically , because she said, ironically, she she said under isis , the two she she said under isis, the two children would have survived . children would have survived. that was her words. and the third child died for lack of oxygen and i wow , i don't i

oxygen and i wow, i don't i mean, i don't want to but it seems strange. all three die lack of oxygen that worried me. the concern that that's what she said . it seems strange . there's said. it seems strange. there's no real medical condition . none. no real medical condition. none. look, in a family who died . lack look, in a family who died. lack of oxygen. but forever kids dead does seem somewhat . you know, does seem somewhat. you know, obviously . well, you know, in obviously. well, you know, in our minds we can speculate to how that would happen . but in how that would happen. but in your views and having spent that time with her and she's now claiming that she wants to come back and, you know , because back and, you know, because obviously she's saying that with regard to her legal representation , because she representation, because she can't speak properly this because she can't speak to the. do you think she should be brought back to this country ? brought back to this country? it's a strange one because the camp i know will not be there forever as a tent camp. and the turkish , french and on a few turkish, french and on a few times and the sdf are holding a have stated that they will let all the go so we lose control her. i think she should be brought back here tried and put in prison for life. we've got

control her then. so you think she's been brought back and put in prison? yeah, i do . and in prison? yeah, i do. and obviously, with the death of her children , you know , to be fair, children, you know, to be fair, anything could have happened in the there as well. we don't the camp there as well. we don't know know the full know we don't know the full extent what it's really like to be but you spend 18 be there. but you spend 18 months there, it's that months there, it's been that time kind of things did you time what kind of things did you do? where were you do? i mean, where were you staying? were staying in a staying? we were staying in a hotel the first time hotel nearby. so the first time we we had or three we were we had two or three weeks filming documentary . weeks filming this documentary. then we stayed in a hotel that was know, only was probably, i don't know, only about 45 minutes away it. about 45 minutes away from it. i'm northeast syria and i'm in the northeast syria and it's quite decent hotel now said that she sort of mentioned that she used to hide when she prayed in england , which i think is in england, which i think is odd. what do you think? i it's a nonsense. why was she saying that? i don't know. because, like said in one of the other taxes, i think i you about she starting to build herself a character. so if she gets anybody media that she's now building herself this victim so

i think that's part the i think that's part of the breakdown that sign she breakdown of that sign she had to her religion. think to hide her religion. i think it's seems like it's something it seems like she's guided into conversation now because she's she's a different shamima now than first met i don't know i don't met so i don't know i don't think she ever she come from an islamic house a household. well play islamic house a household. well play the clip of her actually saying this but i still like hide from my family cheering . i hide from my family cheering. i was crying. yeah. did you hide in defiance is actually it was a different sort of crack. did you watch. no, no, no, no. it was just like they would see change. okay. so no, that's not me. so you recalculate what they do and it you know, people told me like, hide it from your family and hide everyone don't open and hide everyone don't be open about that there is a about it so that there is a group people that group people around that instruct to do it. instruct you on how to do it. they british people online. online, she's online, although you said she's also mentioning how easy it was to get into syria. yeah how what did she tell you about how she got into syria because her explanation was that it was taken away from her so she was

actually was the other two girls or the fourth girl that went beforehand . so she was basically beforehand. so she was basically just a travel partner. so she wasn't the lead she flew from. and i mean her passport was taken out. you said it was taken from her. what was away from was the travel arrangements. okay so she was just one of the kids that travelled she wasn't the main organiser , so she just main organiser, so she just followed the lead . okay, well followed the lead. okay, well let's play a clip of that because we've got that shocked by how easy it was . i, you and by how easy it was. i, you and i still to day shocked by how easy the you were, certainly by the car shooting, the traffic. yeah i mean you know, i'm like personally in mind you only think she's a piece of work. i'd be very about her coming back to this country because yeah, in my view i'd concerned that she might strike up lot of hatred either towards but also in because i don't think she's over the isis thing. what do you think we should be doing? okay. you said we should bring her back. just put her in jail. is there no way do you think

there's any hope of her ever being rehabilitated any way? being rehabilitated in any way? no, think she's i honestly, no, i think she's i honestly, i don't agree you i think she's devious. i'm from a guy supported the beginning that supported at the beginning that was on tv and said, was you. i went on tv and said, i should come home. i think she should come home. she my final thoughts now. she to my final thoughts now. i she can't be trusted . she's a she can't be trusted. she's a diva. and i don't think have i don't think other people will turn against her. i think she could encourage girls doing the same as her. i just find a totally devious human being seen and that's your view. but has said the exact opposite she said that she could be an example and talk about how how women because she says she's being groomed and help others do what she just saw an example now she's in syria in an example now she's in syria in a prison so i don't think she can. how can she? i don't think what used to be cheap. how could she de—radicalize or help stop encourage people go in. i don't see how she are you likely to go back there her again yeah but i don't think she should be i

don't think she should be i don't kechiche the show going out now your conversation with to watch where. yeah she'll know everything you said and wives so i don't think i'd welcome ever again she might try and change her mind i doubt that well she changed it once before. what exactly is that. but i think the telling thing is and we're talking about how how you can categorise on how i thought was this guantanamo bay diaries book that she asked me for because this is the changes also because was shown herself as a victim now that was a big that was big turning point that was a must see but then she also requested some books that she wanted. you to think was one of them. yeah. which books as i got ten of my diaries and that is either one about refugees. the guantanamo bay , about a guy, bay diaries, about a guy, obviously that held in obviously that was held in guantanamo . and so that's guantanamo bay. and so that's how she sees herself being illegally held . and so she illegally held. and so she totally forgot what she's done in her life . is difficult isn't

in her life. is difficult isn't it? was characters like as to whether they will actually change their way or whether they are just because obviously to get where she got yeah with the means that she did she's clearly quite a clever . yes she is. yeah quite a clever. yes she is. yeah and i know the bbc journalist it was with he would be manipulators. was with he would be manipulators . well you can see manipulators. well you can see that because listening to the podcasts i was so surprised as to how biased it was and that was what me you know make it carry on do these interviews because it proves that me the first document in itself had she was talking in in the background and they were saying go so for money to isis and. i don't know why bbc plight that you know i haven't listened to too much of that podcast i when i was actually of i just didn't think it was right that she should be given any sort of nor do i. i it was wrong i do too. well it's an andrew are there others like this that you know that are this particular situation you particular situation that you contact real contact one that's in real trouble the moment she's a british she has a child

british girl, she has a child court name of reasons she's to die soon. she's got shrapnel in, her she's got lack of life her neck, she's got lack of life . been she's . she's been her. she's a citizenships have been taken away from her. so if she dies, there's going to be an orphaned boy with no sitting with nowhere . go. i feel sorry for the child, not the woman. oh, child, but not the woman. oh, it's terrible. so there's it's such a terrible. so there's loads girls that. well, loads of girls like that. well, andrew, you hopefully andrew, listen, if you hopefully will talk me will come back and talk to me about these, ask me on again. i'd love you to. and seriously, thank much for coming in thank you so much for coming in to thanks inviting me. to talk. thanks for inviting me. amazing andrew. amazing amazing. that's andrew. jeremy journalist jeremy sorry. he's a journalist and filmmaker is telling us all about his experience after he met bank and hopefully about his experience after he mewill bank and hopefully about his experience after he mewill come bank and hopefully about his experience after he mewill come backk and hopefully about his experience after he mewill come back to nd hopefully about his experience after he mewill come back to greece afully about his experience after he mewill come back to greece .:ully he will come back to greece. tell more. thank you very tell me more. thank you very much, appreciated. much, andrew much appreciated. well, move to the well, before we move to the break the topic of shamima break on the topic of shamima bagan of the bagan speaking ahead of the release podcast, release of the podcast, journalist joss baker said there are ways excuse me, to are different ways excuse me, to tell the truth, i'm a baking story. there's the one about a 15 year old school girl who was groomed and learned to a warzone by saving by isis and now needs saving from detention camp. from a syrian detention camp. and there's the one about a

traitor who fled britain , join traitor who fled britain, join isis and became known the world over terrorist and must be over as a terrorist and must be stopped coming to stopped from coming back to britain and shamima begum challenge removal of her challenge is the removal of her british citizenship by the uk government. i've examined her accounts to listeners accounts to give listeners a definitive narrative on this complex, and shocking complex, nuanced and shocking story . well, you know, with me, story. well, you know, with me, i'm nana akua coming up. it's great for us to make this out. i'm asking someone, i mean, 35 grand to be using foodbanks and peace islam nurses who claim that they foodbanks that they use foodbanks suggesting should suggesting that they should budget finances better. budget their finances better. and critics have dubbed and that is critics have dubbed such comments heartless and such comments as heartless and out touch. so should they be out of touch. so should they be using an average using foodbanks with an average salary £35,000? that's coming salary of £35,000? that's coming up after this .

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square . we're live on tv online square. we're live on tv online , on digital. all right. and it's , on digital. all right. and wsfime , on digital. all right. and it's time now for great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should someone running £5,000 be using foodbanks ? the £5,000 be using foodbanks? the mp have criticised nurses who claim to use them, suggesting that they should budget their finances better . conservative mp finances better. conservative mp lee anderson tweeted out a picture featuring one of his aides with the following katie works for me. she's and earns less than works for me. she's and earns less tha n £3,000 rents a room less than £3,000 rents a room £775 per pound a month in central london her student debt of central london her student debt 0 f £120 a central london her student debt of £120 a month on on travelling to work saves money every month , goes on foreign holidays and does not to use foodbanks. katie makes my point really well . she makes my point really well. she doesn't have any . that's a tory doesn't have any. that's a tory mp. simon clarke suggested designing an average salary is £35,000. shouldn't be relying on such places to get . critics of such places to get. critics of these comments as heartless and dangerously out of touch as every individual has a different

living situation . and that's not living situation. and that's not to mention the cost of crisis. this been taken hold of this this has been taken hold of this nafion this has been taken hold of this nation solely for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking you, should someone earning asking you, should someone earnin g £35,000 be using earning £35,000 be using foodbanks ? well, i'm joined now foodbanks? well, i'm joined now by former conservative mp and former peter edwards and nhs paediatric nurse olivia prince. well, well, i'm going to start you, olivia. what do you think? £35,000 is about an average salary for nurses , and that's salary for nurses, and that's just an example. all the professions earn roughly that as well. do think that they should be using foodbanks with that salary? is it is it a ridiculous thing to be say ever taking it out? firstly i would like to really, really question whether the figure of £35 because as a newly qualified nurse, when you come out from your training and everything you , actually don't everything you, actually don't start earning £25. and the £5,000, sorry . if you live in £5,000, sorry. if you live in london and you close to that figure, when you stop . but the figure, when you stop. but the question is that actually enough

? when we when we check how weight to do and if you're a single parent that has kids , you single parent that has kids, you live in london. there's no way that could physically be possible. there's no where that could even go close to , you could even go close to, you know, what you need sufficient to survive for the month . so if to survive for the month. so if they're now expecting nurses, not to seek help and not to actually access food banks, i think that's quite heartless and ridiculous. i think and especially about the fact these are the nurses that are caring for the sick elderly the children everyone we are the ones that are on the of fighting the effort doing . so i don't the effort doing. so i don't really understand why that's hard to find is being questioned as being the average salary for nurse when it's actually not that way . well i suspect i mean that way. well i suspect i mean that's just an average based on the highest levels and put it together i mean the highest levels and put it togetheri mean i'm sure the highest levels and put it together i mean i'm sure there are obviously people who earn a lot less than that as well to respect that although if you choose to have children having children a choice, just to

children as a choice, just go to ann widdecombe. i think ann widdecombe. well, i think you apply common sense this. you apply common sense to this. it's quite obvious that if you are a nurse , you're you're are a nurse, you're you're married and, your husband's in study employment as well and you're earning 35,000 or even a bit less, you're not going to have a problem if you are single, you've got children you've got no relatives to help care. it will be that much more difficult. i think the argument that has been mounted because you know the head of the nurses union said nurses are having to foodbanks while a few nurses may be just as may be there are a few teachers and it's being determined by not the salary but the individual. the circum stances which i'm sometimes make what looks perfectly reasonable . other people actually very . . other people actually very. but that to my mind is just common sense. but if you say as a generality. nurses have to use foodbanks that is a nonsense if you say some people from any

profession even if they are earning quite well, will occasionally after use a food bank then i'll buy that. but why can't we apply logic to it. mm make perfect sense to me and what about you, peter, what do you think? is it if you're on 35 grand, should be using foodbanks. i mean some of these people on 35 grand maybe using them, they might be married and having i heard a one on a radio show listening to where one person said that she much person said that she how much mortgage she said it's 1200 mortgage what she said it's1200 pounds this pounds she says she pays this and she has to pay for and by that she has to pay for other things. then when other things. and then when she's asked, are you married? usually my husband to work usually my husband goes to work as it's like, you're as well. and it's like, you're on grand. he's more. well, on 35 grand. he's on more. well, anyway, do you think, anyway, what do you think, peter? volunteer food peter? well, i volunteer a food bank, involved in the bank, not be involved in the homeless. people are homeless. most people are foodbank and nowhere that sum at all of 35 k and i did research today the average of a trainee nurse is about today the average of a trainee nurse is abou t £20,000 today the average of a trainee nurse is about £20,000 and then i before and some might be a

single parent again where i live in london full time childcare can easily in over in london full time childcare can easily in ove r £2,000 a can easily in over £2,000 a month so to me it's outrageous tragedy there any nurse or pubuc tragedy there any nurse or public service professional would have to use a food bank, but at least there is a bit of understanding in circumstances a different and the classic one being a single parent paying for very expensive health at full time by the company doesn't cover the cost because the argument could be , i mean, i argument could be, i mean, i know this might be kind of argument, but it's just talking to the other side of. it that you chose to have the children and you know and you should within your means a 35 grand is should that's you should be enough that's you that's just the counter argument . yeah. i mean know that's not necessarily your point of view but i think that often because you can you can the view you can you can take the view that the child is gift from that the child is a gift from god they're often passed on god but they're often passed on you choose if you do choose to

have a child and are blessed to be a parent you didn't choose to have it inflation and you didn't just 18% food inflation . so just 18% food inflation. so we've got to think in poor households spend a much greater proportion of their income on food food . do you think that food food. do you think that perhaps food banks should be tested or needs tested in some way? well i mean, theoretically they are. i mean, any organiser of a food bank will tell you that they make very the people who come there actually do need to use food bank and they won't just like anybody they always very clear so theoretically theory that there's some means testing going on but i mean i asked myself this question first of all, somebody say children , of all, somebody say children, there have to be two people to make those two children. so what part is the man playing . i mean, part is the man playing. i mean, he does have an obligation to i if he's trying to touch it that is that can be pursued and sometimes often is . and also, of

sometimes often is. and also, of course you know, if you've got children , you're getting the children, you're getting the best part of children, you're getting the best part 0 f £3,000 a month best part of £3,000 a month because that is what a salary of 35,000 implies, if that's what you're getting, then unless is very odd, you should be able to keep those children. and when it comes inflation. now i lived through seventies when the one food banks but was run print information even above the level that there is now and people a people coped manifestly you can cope and it's a question of maybe individual circumstances as i said right at the beginning you know that suddenly come on you know that suddenly come on you you've got a maintenance dodging ex you've you've got find the corner but in the generality the generality which is what the mpc was saying you don't need banks if you're getting nearly 3000 a month. thank you very much and welcome. former editor of the libellous peter edwards and also nhs paediatric nurse olivia

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good afternoon. it's just coming up 39 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people channel. i'm a queer. we're live on. we're online and on digital . right. it's now time for our great british debate this out. i'm asking, should someone earning £35,000 be using foodbanks ? the mp has criticised foodbanks? the mp has criticised who claim to use foodbanks suggesting that they should budget their finance is better. conservative mp anderson tweeted out a picture featuring one of his parliamentary aides detailing how she's able to manage her money despite earning less than £30,000. now that's as tory mp simon clarke also suggested. those earning average nursing salaries of 35,000 shouldn't be relying on. critics, however, have dubbed comments as heartless and dangerously as every individual different living situations. and that's not to mention the cost of living crisis has gripped the nafion of living crisis has gripped the nation so the great british debate this hour. i'm should

someone earnin g £35,000 be using someone earning £35,000 be using foodbanks . well let's see what foodbanks. well let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by sam dowler and also lizzie . right, susan, i start lizzie. right, susan, i start with yo sam 35 grand says gone scott bassett . well, oddly scott bassett. well, oddly enough, i agree with ann widdecombe and my guest as well who said that the opposite that. it's an average that's taking it. that is in people who earn a lot more, a little bit less and who are less. and i really think obviously it's down to it's on a case case basis know you come you can't decide, you know what somebody should do whether should use a food bank or not because that you think you're on 30, but you be 35 grand 30, but you must be on 35 grand when and obviously out of touch stories . yet again, simon clarke stories. yet again, simon clarke saying only you should budget better. think if his better. well, i think if his expenses were about £200,000 and let's just seems like the continual war on the nhs and war these nurses they're already striking and now you you're

going to come round the corner and say that need a budget and say that you need a budget better. i mean, it's better. i mean, come on, it's ridiculous. if somebody to or wants a foodbank. that is wants to use a foodbank. that is their prerogative. if got like, like said, if someone's like we said, like if someone's got children and they got like two children and they can't literally and can't and they literally and they afford their rent, they can't afford their rent, they're living in central london and know, they have and they, you know, they have family they might need family around. they might need they use they might need to use a foodbank, i mean, they fit foodbank, but i mean, they fit in well, i somebody who in well, i know somebody who i was speaking to earlier. he said that exactly salary and that that was exactly salary and they were they said that they were struggling. said, well, struggling. then i said, well, why give up the? oh why don't you give up the? oh yeah, exactly. you know, so. so all these things. so there could be that is it. well, yeah. and i have to say, i never usually agree with sam. i'll have to be honest, but we have. they have to look at individual circumstances in cases. and i think it is really hard on people, hear , like you say, people, but hear, like you say, simon clarke that's earning 84,000 a year. and i think . yes, 84,000 a year. and i think. yes, exactly. and the expenses let him do a 12 hour shift as a nurse and only earn someone earning 35,000. let's be honest

, i don't think it's really unfair. it sounds touch and don't be clapping the nurses throughout covid and then be making like this it's really very and what this government needs to do and should have done previous government should have done looking. the nhs as a whole, it's a shambolic mess. it used to be the envy of the world. they have mismanaged money totally . 8 million spent money totally. 8 million spent on diversity . let me just tell on diversity. let me just tell you. and it needs to be told reboot of the nhs . that's what reboot of the nhs. that's what the problem is i think i've just thought of a new reality show. it's called food is what we do. it's called food is what we do. it stars employees and we make live on 35 grand. yeah, just for a month them that they did all the nice it's the way they live for 35 grand we give them a bafic for 35 grand we give them a basic job they go and do that let's see how long they laugh . let's see how long they laugh. they can't even they can't even as well as or not look upon and i mean, come on now they could they like to see that because i think relating i mean, look,

think i'm relating i mean, look, i to 35 grand is i used to think 35 grand is quite a good salary. i think that you could probably maybe for i look at things say i'm for me, i look at things say i'm going cut that out, that going to cut that out, cut that out and at your expenses. out and look at your expenses. but you said, it is but as you said, it is circumstance. but there has to be off somewhere. be a cut off somewhere. doesn't that have to that does. but we have to remember, the nurse has gone through covid and through through covid and everything else that may have mental issues that mental health issues from that and debt you some and date and the debt you some of gone to university of them have gone to university got university debt. so got their university debt. so many well that's the many think well that's the bursaries should bursaries isn't it. they should never away never have taken away the posters nurses. this was posters of the nurses. this was the, you know, the government paying the, you know, the government paying the tuition and now paying for the tuition and now they pay it they have to pay for it themselves. i think wrong. i think government they should themselves. i think wrong. i thinkshould vernment they should themselves. i think wrong. i thinkshould be nment they should themselves. i think wrong. i thinkshould be nment tdo should themselves. i think wrong. i thinkshould be nment tdo that. ld they should be paid to do that. what's of the reasons why we don't have many nurses and it's still it's still it still it's still to do it obviously with with sector obviously with with the sector as my partner works as well like my partner works the sector. at the care sector. he works at a school for, disabled children and he spends the rest of and then he spends the rest of his hours. he also works a mental health facility at a place city. and the place in the city. and the department to after as department has to after you a as well because because these wages department has to after you a as welnot cause because these wages department has to after you a as welnot enough. cause these wages department has to after you a as welnot enough. s0|se these wages department has to after you a as welnot enough. so he these wages department has to after you a as welnot enough. so he hase wages department has to after you a as

welnot enough. so he has three es are not enough. so he has three jobs to make ends meet and well, let's find what our viewers let's find out what our viewers thinks shows nothing thinks this shows nothing without views. without them in their views. that's british that's welcome. great british voices, opportunity voices, their opportunity to be on and tell us what on the show and tell us what they think about we're discussing today. i've got for right with olivia parry right to start with olivia parry surrey he surrey olivia 35 can sean he people live you don't people can live that you don't need a food bank what do you think. hi nana. yeah i think that 5000 is a it's a reasonable. yes. and i also agree with the fact that nurses should student loans. should never have student loans. i they could write i mean, if they could write off their student that would their student loans, that would be step forward. i think be a great step forward. i think they to appreciated , as they want to be appreciated, as you and if we could give you know and if we could give them % and maybe say to their them% and maybe say to their drivers, well, you know, you wait. if we had a vote, i think we'd much rather give nurses a raise. they do a fantasy stick job. i mean, i've had experience in hospital. they saved my in intensive care . so i think they intensive care. so i think they should be highly valued so maybe push up their salaries . they push up their salaries. they saved my life, too. i wish they hadn't. well is there in cornwall? jonathan what about you? 45 grand. surely people can

live off that. you don't need a food bank. well, i, you know, in cornwall, that's actually about . so you've got to think that this people earning less than that in cornwall are actually to food banks. so surely it's got to be down to the individuals and you know, someone's got lots of children. it is really tough to buy those two but i think a lot of it is education. do you think that this fields full of this food all around us here in cornwall that get probably converted into the wrong kind of food sometimes so a lot of this education if we just knew to how cook better for ourselves and buy better body copy this british food that would be part of the problem i think and also if we could turn the food into tea, i knew. oh, ha ha ha ha was waiting for that cup . right, waiting for that cup. right, let's go on next. get to the festival. is there milton keynes . what do you think? that's me putting . good evening than thank putting. good evening than thank for having me on. yes i do if you would what would . what

you would what would. what everyone is saying, even missy . everyone is saying, even missy. and i think that should be able to use the food banks. we need to use the food banks. we need to ask ourselves questions. why are they the food banks amidst the increased cost of living crisis and inflation you know, the nurses are the backbone , the the nurses are the backbone, the nhs and without them we will not be able to survive . they've done be able to survive. they've done brilliant work . be able to survive. they've done brilliant work. i think that it's a bit unfair for the mps to say that need to budget, you know, the nurses need food they trying to ends meet and yes they should be able to lend in that salary bracket should be able to use food banks . thank you, s.e. use food banks. thank you, s.e. let's go to mike donovan. he's in oxfordshire. mike yeah, hi nama. well median salary in the country is 33,000, 33,000 with nobody wants to use a food bank usually there's a problem with a company and uk. usually there's a problem with a company and uk . you look at the company and uk. you look at the management and this is a we have a serious structural problems in the uk and we seem to skirt

around them we sold our assets off under big bang under thatcher you know telling anyone that they can't do or do something unless they've tried themselves. i've no idea it's a kind of irrelevance it is it is a bit it's bit of an odd and strange statement say i think it's personal circumstance. some might argue that you've got the three kids, it's your own fault and you should them . and if and you should pay them. and if you sorry. thank you you comparison. sorry. thank you very called. sustained. milton keynes . that's keynes mike in oxygen. that's not my view this not necessarily my view of this . to present the other . i have to present the other side come on. let's move on to side. come on. let's move on to another story. and this one caught my eye tv personality. jeremy clarkson said to be cancelled itv after making controversial comments about meghan that was meghan markle. that was in reference game of reference the tv series game of thrones . 61 year reference the tv series game of thrones. 61 year said reference the tv series game of thrones . 61 year said that thrones. 61 year old said that he dreamt of day meghan he dreamt of the day that meghan would the streets. would walk down the streets. crowds excellent at her crowds so excellent at her i mean it's not really i those would never be the words i would frankly but his words did spark outrage up and down the country,

prompting him to even actually issue to . couple, issue an apology to. the couple, although apparently did although apparently he did apologise than that apologise no earlier than that email , which apologise no earlier than that email, which he sent to email, which he then sent to harry not meghan so. they're harry and not meghan so. they're all well. but this all with that as well. but this isn't first time something isn't the first time something like happened like this has happened previously ties in the previously. itv cut ties in the present morgan over present appears morgan over his controversial duchess. controversial about the duchess. although pretty out of although he's done pretty out of that he accused of lying in that when he accused of lying in a oprah winfrey interview. so is it right to cancel jeremy clarkson despite this being an apology to the couple is you think it's right? no, i don't think it's right? no, i don't think right. am think it's right. i am absolutely appalled because is virtually he will virtually cancelled now. he will be on mainstream tv anymore . he be on mainstream tv anymore. he has apologised . what he said was has apologised. what he said was what he wrote was wrong and it should never have written, never should never have written, never should have been printed by the paper. should have been printed by the paper . but he should have been printed by the paper. but he has apologised twice . they should accept that twice. they should accept that apology and i'm sorry, but the markets didn't accept the apology then. he didn't. and the thing is, with harry and meghan like to pretend that the media campaigners and trying to reform the media. in fact they will

cancel any one of one way ticket to be cancelled sacked if you disagree with them or you or they don't like their critiques now know usually the lefties would hate that multimedia couple from royalty that are cancelling and what is in the press . be fair. i mean they're press. be fair. i mean they're not the ones announcing on tv all but they didn't accept john his apology mr. trump what to pay his apology mr. trump what to pay for the government to jeremy clarkson has cancelled himself in this front i mean like if we here at a tv studio if you punched one of your producers in the face of course should be sacked, which is why he was sacked, which is why he was sacked from from top gear to begin with. so here he is again doing something abhorrent. and of he's not being of course, but he's not being cancelled. can still speak cancelled. he can still speak however he to on however much he wants to on twitter, another, show twitter, find another, show amazon to amazon don't want to be associated. is going associated. somebody is going to write that write something like that and nor itv and that's their prerogative. they why prerogative. why would they why would think. think would they want i think. i think that being cancelled he said awful. they awful. and therefore they were like, don't to be associated

like, we don't to be associated with we're not i'm not is with that. we're not i'm not is freedom have the freedom of speech you have the freedom of speech you have the freedom say what like but freedom to say what like but then live with the consequences i mean, don't know. i suppose. i mean, i don't know. i suppose. i mean, i don't know. i whether he deserves i don't know whether he deserves to everything, but he's to lose everything, but he's apologised. but it was unwise and i'm making to say and i want to, i'm making to say and i want to, i'm making to say a few stories what they've a few stories of what they've said to camilla quality often in dangerous scenarios. other dangerous scenarios. the other thing apology. thing is accept the apology. i think giles needs be think king giles needs to be wary, apologise, wary, even if does apologise, those might not take any those two might not take any nofice those two might not take any notice right. in notice of him. right. but in response, jeremy clarkson's article, itv ceo carolyn mccall . this everyone to itv is very aware of our responsibility is as a public service broadcaster . i'd like to be clear that the comments jeremy clarkson's own and are in no way endorse itv. there is no place on itv for the comments made in that article . comments made in that article. it's time now for our quickfire . it's the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the other stories, the headlines right now. i'm joined by broadcast columnist elysse and elysse, press your buzzer, please and also political

commentator some. i'm about plays right and please play along at home. right. so here we go. which prime minister resigned from his post week? was it a sunak ? it was it be pedro it a sunak? it was it be pedro sanchez or was it c just say i'm the question. you suppose this is going to finalise it. see jacinda ardern, is he a c darling. i'm good , i said, i'm darling. i'm good, i said, i'm saying not good for it. and she was a wonderful one for prime minister and it's a shocker. she's gone. she's but she's burnt , she says, and she's done burnt, she says, and she's done wonders for that country and wonders for that country and wonder for the world. she looked down everyone. awful . down everyone. it was awful. your friend dan wootton wasn't able to visit his family because of cousin mine. i realised of a cousin of mine. i realised she'd mistakes, but they she'd made mistakes, but they all jacinda done stepping all did. jacinda done a stepping down minister of down as the prime minister of new that new zealand, claiming that she hasn't left in the hasn't got enough left in the tank got a lot left in the tank and got a lot left in the tank and got a lot left in the tank re—elect . and because tank for re—elect. and because she going lose she knows she's going to lose the suggests the labour the poll suggests the labour party ahead, lagging party are lagging ahead, lagging ahead of the general and i thought you'd lag behind on the 14th of october and i didn't. there's been the helm for six there's been at the helm for six years, the question to

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this day as well. is that 14th? what i say? you say it's five. say false. i've only got two friends that i've got that i've got no friends. no. from your friends . so how does it do okay. friends. so how does it do okay. right. according the office of national statistics, the 27th september is the most common date we've all in england. wales. that's what the saying. and final question then . so and final question then. so let's see how quickly they went about a second by your 25 october tory and right question five don't ask me don't worry about it i know i'm sorry okay of course you brought the ayatollah's across a necklace famously worn by princes was a can can't be . michelle obama can can't be. michelle obama will see her this week physical kim got asking what do you think taylor swift says well see the answer is it was kim kardashian playing sweet ballistic on the other thing. you got anything that kim bought the necklace? £463,000. that kim bought the necklace? £463,000 . £800 and beat three £463,000. £800 and beat three others bidding for the same item . princess diana famously wore

dependent back in 18 1987 at dependent back in 181987 at a charity gala. so very nice. could you afford it, lizzy? well, now i know i. no, i'm saying no ridiculous, but it's on today's . i've been asking, do on today's. i've been asking, do you believe mrs. sunak canadian government with integrity now according to twitter poll, 23% of you say yes 77% of you say no. oh you go says, oh, well , no. oh you go says, oh, well, thank you so much. my panel of broadcast stream columnist lizzie cundy. thank you very much, lizzie. i politico.com later some down forjoining me later some down for joining me today and a huge you to you at home for your company now tomorrow i will be back again at 4:00 to discuss the top stories. joining me that will be broadcast and author christine , broadcast and author christine, also a broadcast journalist . also a broadcast journalist. danny kelly, thank you so much . danny kelly, thank you so much. i will see you tomorrow. look forward to that. you can stream the live via youtube or the show live via youtube or download the gb news app . i'll download the gb news app. i'll see tomorrow and see you tomorrow at four and talk about that . hello there.

talk about that. hello there. i'm jonathan vaught from the met office here with your latest weather updates this weekend is . all about the northwest southeast split and it's due to where we've high pressure set across england and wales keeping the cold air in tact here, but further towards northwest, we've got milder air pushing in association with these frontal but milder air is going to be wrapped up with a fair amounts of cloud outbreaks of rain and drizzle and, a persistent breeze, particularly across the hebndes breeze, particularly across the hebrides and up towards the northern tonight northern isles. tonight meanwhile, where we've got the clearest across clearest air is across particularly of england particularly areas of england and eastern the frost and eastern wales, the frost will returning down to as low as minus degrees in some rural prone spots, we will see some freezing fog as well, perhaps particularly bedfordshire hertfordshire. so could be a bit of a murky start to sunday morning for you here wise once those clear off those do eventually clear off into the afternoon, we see some brighter spells develop holding onto colder air still onto that colder air still further to the northwest, then going to be another fairly drab day. the winds will ease out,

but that's going to help lower the cloud a bit more so certainly some hill fog in places and murky with places and rather murky with further persistent areas of rain climbing to highs of ten degrees, though with the cloud not necessarily going to feel that pleasant into that particularly pleasant into sunday evening, we retain that split then so it's going to remain mild across the north and west we hold onto cloud. west where we hold onto cloud. but pushing its but now the cloud pushing its way areas of way into northern areas of england, areas, wales. england, western areas, wales. so slightly reduced risk of so a slightly reduced risk of frost where hold frost here. but where we hold onto clearer skies again central eastern areas of england, temperatures will be promising once again, three , four in once again, minus three, four in towns cities , it's the start towns and cities, it's the start of the new working week. whilst we do still have that split on the whole cloud will just gradually want to push its way into the southeastern. these frontal eventually make frontal will eventually make their further towards south, their further towards the south, but will generally be more towards middle of the week towards the middle of the week before we see mild before we see that mild eventually sweep its way across all of england . that's it for all of england. that's it for now. enjoy the rest of your day

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