it's 8:00 and this is mark dolan tonight. 3 hours of big debate, big opinion and big entertainment along way. we've got the sunday papers with full panel reaction and my take it ten monologue and my look back at the week in dolan's diary . at the week in dolan's diary. but as always we start with the people's hour in which i take your video calls tonight we'll be debating does rishi sunak's seatbelt penalty matter .7 should seatbelt penalty matter? should we pay for appointments? should itv's jeremy clarkson and as buzz aldrin space hero marries at 93 do age gaps in marriages work so much to get through my saturday darts legend . bobby saturday darts legend. bobby george it's all happening but someone that's also pretty good with the arrows it's tatiana tatiana . marg thank you very

tatiana. marg thank you very much. this is the latest from the gb newsroom former chancellor nadhim zahawi has sought to address questions over his tax affairs, his following . his tax affairs, his following. he paid a penalty as part of a multi—million pound tax settlement . in a statement, the settlement. in a statement, the conservative party chairman said the hmrc accepted he made a careless but not deliberate error in to the sale of shares yougov. that's the polling company he founded. mr. zahawi has been under pressure following claims he tried to avoid paying tax labour, have said his position untenable . the said his position untenable. the prime minister is facing a renewed wave of criticism from employees , with labour employees, with labour describing him as a total liability after he was fined by police for a second time. sunak has apologised for not wearing a seatbelt whilst filming social media clip in back of a moving car. earlier this, the prime minister was also last year for

breaking restrictions. in 2020 and has been accused of showing the same disregard for rules as bofis the same disregard for rules as boris johnson , shadow financial boris johnson, shadow financial secretary murray says mr. sunak has lost control. just when you thought the conservatives get any more ridiculous , rishi sunak any more ridiculous, rishi sunak shows he can't even fasten his own seatbelt. and i think this speaks this speaks volumes about . the fact that the prime is not is not in control and compact. keir starmer with rishi sunak keir starmer with rishi sunak keir starmer has been at the world economic this week promoting the uk by promoting a plan for economic growth. and rishi sunak can't design seat belt and nothing. people will make the right judgement about going to lead the country. but the deputy prime minister, dominic raab, has defended mr. sunak, saying a human being who made a mistake. sunak, saying a human being who made a mistake . the prime made a mistake. the prime minister put his hand straight up. it was a mistake he's apologised for it. he takes responsibility for it. he hasn't

actually gone down that path of blaming anyone else. he's taken responsibility for it. he'll pay the human as well the fine. he's a human as well as a incredibly busy politics. and the prime minister got a frantic, hectic schedule , but frantic, hectic schedule, but he's made it clear there's no excuses. he's made it clear there's no excuses . founder of the bus firm excuses. founder of the bus firm stagecoach steam anglo has strongly disputed what she calls malicious allegations made against after being charged with human trafficking offences. police says three other people understood to be members of her family were charged on thursday in connection with alleged immigration offences. ms. globe the allegations made against her and her family. the allegations made against her and her family . and the met and her family. and the met office has issued a weather for fog tomorrow . but they say the fog tomorrow. but they say the worst of the cold spell is now coming to an end . the yellow coming to an end. the yellow alert covering the south and the east of england will be in place until 11 am, on monday. drivers are being warned of icy

conditions with possible disruption to as well. next week, however, temperatures rise across country are expected to climb yet again. across country are expected to climb yet again . some good news climb yet again. some good news for us tv, online and dab pass radio with gb news. now it's back to mark dolan tonight. my back to mark dolan tonight. my thanks to tatiana . she's with my thanks to tatiana. she's with me all night. this is mark dolan tonight. we start with the people's hour, which i'll be . people's hour, which i'll be. your video calls on the big stories of the day tonight . the stories of the day tonight. the stars of the show are francis in salisbury , featuring chaos the salisbury, featuring chaos the dog andrew from . and there he dog andrew from. and there he is. good to see you with guinness jumper. you're making me thirsty . alan from yateley, a me thirsty. alan from yateley, a very good friend of the show . very good friend of the show. amanda from east sussex. the

dropper of truth bombs going back to the good old days of my radio as well. she's a broadcast legend in her own right and brand new to mark dolan tonight and the people's a warm welcome to from carmarthenshire in wales. hi susan to great have you on the show. we'll be heanng you on the show. we'll be hearing lot from them over the next hour. the topics tonight's doors at rishi sunak , seatbelt doors at rishi sunak, seatbelt conviction matter is . it sajid conviction matter is. it sajid javid right . should we pay conviction matter is. it sajid javid right. should we pay for gp appointments and accidents and emergency? also itv sack jeremy clarkson and last but not least as buzz aldrin space hero marries at 93. that's right. marries at 93 due age gap marriages work. my marries at 93 due age gap marriages work . my saturday marriages work. my saturday sidekick for the first hour of the show. is it true legend it is dance icon bobby george and there is often iron in the big

question as thousands of millionaires leave the country every year where asking do we demonise the super rich? shouldn't love them so they spend their money here. plus we'll heading live to los angeles california and the queen of us, showbiz royal and political reporter kinsey schofield . quite big news , queen schofield. quite big news, queen camilla, more popular than meghan markle . plus, donald meghan markle. plus, donald trump and kamala feature in what will be a fascinating edition of us. news. plus, tomorrow's sunday papers from 1020. that's 10 minutes earlier than everyone else, right through 11. this is mark dolan tonight on a saturday. so put cold and fizzy in the fridge or fire up the kettle and have a night to remember . as mentioned, my remember. as mentioned, my saturday for the people's hour

is darts legend bobby george . is darts legend bobby george. bobby, welcome to the studio . bobby, welcome to the studio. cheers. yeah, cheers . by the cheers. yeah, cheers. by the way, a glass of water that's a bit an inadequate response is just preposterous. do you still enjoy the occasional tipple ? enjoy the occasional tipple? yeah. yeah. oh yeah. a lot of been yeah. yeah. oh yeah. a lot of beer, gin and tonic. occasionally i might have not bendable up a few more than i should. stuck in glass technology . can't take it. well, technology. can't take it. well, no, i just can't take it. what they used to call that you know it would be like, you know, the good old days and the good old, you know, the sort of liquid lunch, but obsession. yeah, but not you're getting all not now when you're getting all you go that's it. you can go out. that's all it. you know, gets on you it you know, it gets on you and it affects the waterworks. it terribly. now, now, by the way, we the alcohol, does it make . we the alcohol, does it make. you better, a couple you play darts better, a couple of think. well of drinks. well, i think. well dull some pubs and clubs got together so going in a club or a pub and you don't really train, you play darts, you have a point . so you brought up the game is

with the drink over . players with the drink over. players don't do that. they play in school and different places like that. school and different places like that . but the british people, that. but the british people, it's a british game , it's it's a british game, it's brought up in pubs. so i think i've got used to having not probably four points before i play probably four points before i play darts, but i might be playing in that four points. so no fouls for sure because i'm building off, walking up and down, practise it before , you down, practise it before, you play. so it's not all it's not all drinking it. look, i don't even drink that light of the show and would have sometimes had four points on the day of a major competition. yeah but you don't have them. they want to know you don't go silly because if you drink much, you can't play. yeah, but it just comes, you to it because you know? but used to it because over years , walk darts over the years, walk in, darts out point you get used to perhaps them a bit less nervous as well, less edgy. yeah. well i don't get nervous now . when don't get nervous now. when i was younger, i'll get a little bit nervous a bit. does call then obviously. have you heard then obviously. have you heard the latest and we'll discuss it

later in the show. the canadians now are saying that basically any alcohol is a threat to your health and they're recommending two drinks a week. could you survive on two drinks, what is the point of going out on the evening for a drink with your mate? and you have to piss on me? what's the point? good luck with that. first of his five of you. yeah. so you get around and that's a few guys ain't going to get drinks because get those drinks all the because you're eat and they you're going to eat and they won't happy there will be i mean that's that's just that's rubbish say want rubbish they say they want that they back. your they want their money back. your mates what about darts. have mates and what about darts. have you thrown any arrows today. not today. you thrown any arrows today. not today . not not on news reading . today. not not on news reading. and i know that that's exactly right. now, you might co—presenter and bobby, by the way, you don't need to practise, do you? i you started off do you? i mean you started off darts could do in darts now you could do it in your sleep. surely well, you do. you need to see if you don't use it, you lose it. you do? yeah and the pandemic was on, and when the pandemic was on, i didn't that much then i at didn't play that much then i at at supply and i like i've got a little bit more out now because

but friday automatically not thinking about it for years and then you ever break and you pick them up. yeah i know it's a gift . you can't you lose your gift. so i have to put the hours in to get it back . you know, a place get it back. you know, a place of practise sometimes really good. but get set up, walk it up and, down on your own. it's not you normally. of course. well, that's it. i mean, look, you made darts entertaining you were the maverick character you turned into showbiz , didn't you? turned into showbiz, didn't you? well, the thing is , i started well, the thing is, i started playing darts. i've got to the top very quick and ball off, and it was a bit dull. i called players on and it was dull. it was no bounce. so i said to the cameraman , i want a bit of music cameraman, i want a bit of music as i was bob wilson. of course . as i was bob wilson. of course. so i went , i as i was bob wilson. of course. so i went, i said, go and ask the beeb, see what they sound like. he come back. he said, yeah, they said that would be good. so clear. it was a bd out or something else. i dunno about you. cross it. yeah. carry on.

so i played music so now the first music ever , the first one first music ever, the first one called music. everything else. do you want to be in my gang by gary glitter. was oh dear. that one hasn't aged well dog so i took oh cancel that one i'll come on the way all the champions all not me and it my thoughts more tragic all more fun the dressing up it's so annoying that people enjoy it and that's the part of the game. the music you're going to write. yeah indeed. i love. i love that story. and look, let us now get to matters in relation to the news agenda. bobby los issues to get through in the people's houn get through in the people's hour. that's right. i'm taking your video calls . if you'd like your video calls. if you'd like to be part of a future show market. gbnews.uk me know now the prime minister, rishi sunak, has been fined by the police after he received fixed penalty nofice after he received fixed penalty notice for not wearing his seatbelt , recording an instagram

seatbelt, recording an instagram video. clearly a mistake and an oversight . seatbelts are oversight. seatbelts are important , oversight. seatbelts are important, but does it matter in the general scheme of things? is the general scheme of things? is the focus on this story evidence of how trivial our politics have become? let's ask andrew in essex. hi .and i think become? let's ask andrew in essex. hi . and i think that essex. hi. and i think that rishi should actually shamed of himself because he's not giving a very good impression the way the country's run . you know, he the country's run. you know, he should be leading by example. and you know as my myself, as a lecturer when i'm, you know, being a role model, as disability advocate, if i'm behaving in responsible way, then others will do the same. so you know, the fact that he's kind of recording a video and not having the seatbelt on, these messages going out to millions of people . and millions of people. and obviously, you know, when he's in the data, which my late grandfather used to read religiously , you know, there and

religiously, you know, there and they've had his interview today , you know, he's he's been a mainstay newspaper boy enough . mainstay newspaper boy enough. did he not just put the on advocating ? you know he's got advocating? you know he's got a sense of control i always say think that sense of control i always say think tha t £100 for a think that £100 for a millionaire is not enough , you millionaire is not enough, you know, and the majority of people that could be, you know, two weeks food shop if they're if they're on their own and, you know, he he's not really giving us a sense of his leadership . us a sense of his leadership. you know, there's been a lot of negativity on a you know, in a living in a conservative area and robert halfon has done a lot for the disability community here and it's helped accessibility partners who i, i'm friends with managing director of that organisation and she been delighted by people more contacts as well because they have a disability that rishi is doing that's why it really makes me angry. okay well look you've spoken very

eloquently there and from the heart. andrew, let's bring bobby, george this conversation as well, if we can, darts legend, of course. i mean , don't legend, of course. i mean, don't we want to get this in perspective ? bobby it's not perspective? bobby it's not exactly the watergate scandal, is it? well, it's . i know you is it? well, it's. i know you broke the law . so if you break broke the law. so if you break the law, you're to get fined. if you get caught, the law, you're to get fined. if you get caught , that is. but you get caught, that is. but i blame the guy video. i mean, if he worked for on second because he worked for on second because he should have told a safety bill when their son. the law is the law . personally i've been in the law. personally i've been in the law. personally i've been in the car and in backseat and i forget the foot rebellion, the loss of people in the back of the car and don't put the safety bill in front automatically get a taxi in london don't put safety bill on in the taxi. so is the law soldier. if you get captured then you get fined but

can they please set can't stop you on the motorway because it's on the stop you could put them so three is the prime a full eagle cap should you pay a fine but a bit mickey mouse i'll think really to put it in the papers i make big thing of it, you know , childish. andrea you know, childish. andrea andrew, you don't look happy. you don't agree with bobby ? no, you don't agree with bobby? no, i think, you know, he's , you i think, you know, he's, you know, he he the thing is , yes, know, he he the thing is, yes, he wants , you know, being filmed he wants, you know, being filmed videoing . but they should have videoing. but they should have had things in place not like i do live videos on facebook when walking my dog in harlow town park . i make sure walking my dog in harlow town park. i make sure i'm walking my dog in harlow town park . i make sure i'm actually park. i make sure i'm actually walking the dog i don't take a video while some driving my car you know i'm showing people my local area and you know i i'm a study skills lecturer and i teach training for social enterprise but i am not the prime minister but i'm giving an example of what people should be

doing. and, you know, people should, you know, be wearing a seat belt all the i mean, something that i was told , you something that i was told, you know, when i was, what, five years you why? why do years old, you know, why? why do people what part of not people what part of people not where them there's so much health now and you health and safety now and you know even my dog is happily sitting on my carpet there. he's got dedicated car seat, you know, and he straps him when i'm driving . why did the prime driving. why did the prime minister not stop quickly put the belt on, then do you ? the belt on, then do you? where's the leadership? i have never seen a dog seat . what does never seen a dog seat. what does he say next to you in the front? is it like . is it like that? is it like. is it like that? that famous clint eastwood movie with him in the monkey ? what was with him in the monkey? what was that? what was that movie? bobby george. you remember that? oh, yeah. that little monkey . you yeah. that little monkey. you should put his hand out. not everyone over here probably. should i mean, look, this is not exactly partygate , though, is exactly partygate, though, is it? so that starts point. andrew is so i feel there's an

overreach to this story. and also andrew , don't you think also andrew, don't you think that quite the in the that it's not quite the in the back of the car the seat belt is all about in the front surely i. oh no definitely. you know you need to have a seat belt on wherever you sit . and also my wherever you sit. and also my dog sits in the back in you can buy special dog seat that better be available on amazon. i know that people moan online shopping you know it was 20 quid he's he's a dedicated seat in my polo and you know he's strapped in but when the seatbelt laws came in because you were a little youngster, you're a chicken. andrew but bobby and i will remember a time before seatbelts were enforced by law and when law came in it was just the front seat belts that were enforced . i know that you've got enforced. i know that you've got to have seatbelts in the back now. and of course, it will save lives. but i wonder whether we're still not quite used to buckling up in the back that a cultural thing partly i'm not sure i mean i mean i'm this year

and you know when i used to go out with my parents and grandpa and i was you know, we always had a seatbelt, you know, back in the eighties. so it's something that i've grown up with . but i appreciate. yes with. but i appreciate. yes people who are older myself may not be used to it, but you know, it's well , she's older not be used to it, but you know, it's well, she's older than me . it's well, she's older than me. put the seatbelt . the put the seatbelt. the grandchildren in the rear of the car in the back, always automatic . car in the back, always automatic. but i'm saying, well, at 1991, i broke the law out. you must wear them in the back as well. and children have got seatbelts on it to save lives. so you're breaking their neck. if you've got a safer on an accident but it's a thing that in the front clip automatic in the back i think oh they put me belt on you know it's just because i drive all the time or i'm in the front of the car. i'll never sort think of putting on the back of the car, but it's very unfortunate . it needs not

very unfortunate. it needs not only a seatbelt on the back of the car. okay. well, you know what? i mean, you both raise really good points. i tend to agree with bobby that that, you know, politically, this is not a huge scandal for the prime. he's made a mistake. but i did from you the seriousness of that error of judgement, andrew , you error of judgement, andrew, you are right that the number injuries and deaths that are prevented by wearing a seatbelt is quite astronomic and therefore of all people the prime minister was wrong to forget, look, let's crack on because what many more burning issues to get through in the part of the show let me tell you should we pay for gp appointments and a&e visits also . should itv sack jeremy clarkson and as buzz aldrin gets married at the age of 93, do age gap relationships work? see, shortly .

welcome back to the people's houn welcome back to the people's hour. with me, mark dolan , the hour. with me, mark dolan, the former health secretary sajid javid writing in the times , said javid writing in the times, said that patients should be charged for gp appointments and a&e visits , as he called the current visits, as he called the current model of the nhs unsustainable . model of the nhs unsustainable. he said extending the contribue two contributory principle should be part of radical reforms to combat growing waiting times . so would a means waiting times. so would a means tested help patients get better access to care or this the slippery slope to privatisation? do you just wind up paying for the same service twice? this is the same service twice? this is the people's hour in which i'm taking your video calls my saturday sidekick is darts lecture and a bobby george is in the house and he's enjoying my apple cider vinegar. let's speak

to susan now . carmarthenshire to susan now. carmarthenshire we'll go to frances first. susan's waiting in the wings. but frances salisbury in the company of chaos, the dog . what company of chaos, the dog. what do you think about the idea ? do you think about the idea? paying for a gp appointment or paying for a gp appointment or paying for a&e ? if frances, it paying for a&e? if frances, it means more queues, no more waiting . well, that would be waiting. well, that would be a joke . it's kind of just lead to joke. it's kind of just lead to more and managerial jobs collecting the money. so a lead to any effective care what we needis to any effective care what we need is to get more people into and to pharmacies starts to take the pressure off any of the other end of the scale. we need to take reduce the number blockers on this horrible word to use but that they are and we to use but that they are and we to improve community care and

our social care both are really to improving throughput through hospitals at the moment. i mean i've seen it for myself you know there are no beds left in surgical wards so how are we going to bring the waiting list down? hopeless. absolutely i'm afraid surgeries i've got a lot of time from these a very frightened, intelligent man , but frightened, intelligent man, but he's just. is this silly political top tick tat so—called ideas that really haven't got a grip of what's going on at all. you see, he's totally by what's going on as well. you see, he's totally by what's going on as well . no, we need going on as well. no, we need need root and branch reform . the need root and branch reform. the nhs charging here and charging that minuscule amounts isn't going make a difference. yes, we may need to nudge patients to make sure that they turn up to

appointments in time or on time or fulfil them. that's important because there's a lot of wastage in, the nhs, but then the whole nhs is orientated towards patients either in terms of , you patients either in terms of, you know, clinically, i think have to sort of divide things clinically . we see a lot of good clinically. we see a lot of good care from frontline nurses, frontline doctors , but we don't frontline doctors, but we don't see. it's good holistic in terms of the managers and administrators in terms of actually looking after patients. the nhs care about patients as a whole making that distinction . whole making that distinction. clinical because clinical is great, but it's a sign of what we need to do. i mean, i unfortunately have a number different issues and you know, it's not beyond bounds of possibility. i'll be called five

times a week for appointments. no that's all good. but it's everything's living in a silo. i fight tooth and nail to get a sort of combined so that, you know , i don't have a love, don't know, i don't have a love, don't have to drag in volunteers to drive results from look after me because it's a complete waste of time you know so the nhs lives in silos you know dreadful it really is dreadful but we can improve . i'm very, very improve. i'm very, very convinced we can improve. it well, i do wonder about that, francis, because of course. chaos. the dog he gets pretty speedy service because you pay for the veterinary appointments. i wonder whether it changes people's mentality if they pay for the appointment, it means they turn up and possibly people will think twice before bothering their gp. it gets rid

of the hyper and the wasters . of the hyper and the wasters. let's ask alan joins us right now as well . we'll bring alan now as well. we'll bring alan into the conversation alongside frances in salisbury . and alan, frances in salisbury. and alan, what's your view ? do you think? what's your view? do you think? sajid javid has got a point. he speaks with some authority. he knows the health service . he knows the health service. he used to run it as health secretary he 2 minutes . okay. secretary he 2 minutes. okay. thank you . my point, mark, the thank you. my point, mark, the last time i was on a couple of weeks ago, we spoke about the nhs being broken and in fact country being broken and all we're doing is regurgitating the same conversation right now to see my gp is almost impossible . see my gp is almost impossible. she actually rang me up the other day. well, the receptor rang me up to say can we actually have a chat with you on the phone on the 31st of january. and said well actually

i'm going to go on the 31st of january. and i'm actually to a wellness centre which run by two doctors and i'm going to pay whatever rupees it costs to get all my stuff done while i'm over that. all my stuff done while i'm over that . and now you know why all that. and now you know why all these celebrities are all going to india to get all their medical see to because it's quicker , more efficient, getting quicker, more efficient, getting anything done in this country at the moment . anything done in this country at the moment. indeed. i mean, what do you think, though, about how if we had to make a small contribution to the structures perhaps contribution to the structures perhap s £10 for a appointment perhaps £10 for a appointment would change your attitude towards the nhs. might we appreciate it more and might we abuseit appreciate it more and might we abuse it less? andrew allen . for abuse it less? andrew allen. for me or andrew . yeah well that me or andrew. yeah well that because the other man in my life. forgive me alan. what do think . yeah i think if we if we think. yeah i think if we if we mean test if somebody can afford to pay mean test if somebody can afford to pa y £10 a month to cover the

to pay £10 a month to cover the medical expense says hey it . medical expense says hey it. those who can't afford to have it covered but those who are paying it covered but those who are paying it. so i got no problems paying it. so i got no problems payin g £10 a month. but we want paying £10 a month. but we want to see the results . there's no to see the results. there's no point just throwing more down the toilet and getting any satisfaction for what we're spending . if we can see the spending. if we can see the results , we'll pay it. well results, we'll pay it. well there you go. show me the colour of your money performance related pay. accountability in the nhs. a quick word from darts legend bobby . let's keep both my legend bobby. let's keep both my friends here and let's bring bobby into conversation. bobby, have benefited from the services of the nhs. would you be willing to pay for a appointments? yes, i would . i to pay for a appointments? yes, iwould . i brought to pay for a appointments? yes, i would . i brought me back few i would. i brought me back few years ago and i paid for it privately. i wanted it done. this was a one i wanted to get back on the stage. yeah. i mean, they the same applied for one. i

mean these . oh go ahead . they've mean these. oh go ahead. they've done well over everything else except free man . everybody. if i except free man. everybody. if i had more surgery than cher. but the thing is that that young man said, you got a you go in there, you actually go in and play in india and all spill. awesome. of the replacement knee and they say they check you over the next day to the replacement knee maintain th e £3,000 against maintain the £3,000 against probably 9000 if you donate probably 9000 if you donate probably national but i would pay probably national but i would pay personally to see the doctor. yes it's like march and he starts so i cannot make out that i'll go in with a pimple on their nose or something. yeah. oh got a bit of a sore throat and they can't see a doctor . i and they can't see a doctor. i would pay if it helps. i don't mind. pay attention. it really if you can afford it send centre. some people are on the on the on the rock and roll so some people are old on national

and i old age pensioners not them but people who actually fit enough to go and see doctor as a funny funny i know but i've got a way of putting it i've got to say by the way, you've caught my eye bobby with, with the idea of going to india three grand for a knee replacement i might pop to mumbai for i think he's ready. yeah. tell talk for a tenner anyway. look we'll get to more of your opinions shortly. we've actually taken a twitter poll on whether we should pay for appointment , whether we should pay for appointment, and we'll give you the results of that next. plus, coming up, we've got the amazing buzzer , space superstar , of buzzer, space superstar, of course, first one of the first men in space. he's 93. he's walking on air because he's just got married to woman, 40 years younger than him. do age gap marriages work. but next in the people's hour, should itv sack jeremy clarkson see .

in two? no audience there you go. listen, just chatting to my saturday sidekick, the darts legend, bobby george is with me in the studio and well done. producer greg , because he's just producer greg, because he's just upgraded bobby's. producer greg, because he's just upgraded bobby's . bobby was upgraded bobby's. bobby was struggling through my apple cider vinegar, which i'll be honest with , you was a very honest with, you was a very unglamorous drink. but healthy and he's been upgraded to a been and he's been upgraded to a beer, which is, of course, the dnnk beer, which is, of course, the drink of champions. so bobby's happy and well lubricated . this happy and well lubricated. this is the people's hour in which i take your video calls and. let's get to our next question on next debate following . his satirical debate following. his satirical but poorly received comments about meghan markle in column for the sun newspaper . jeremy for the sun newspaper. jeremy clarkson appears to have been relieved of his presenting dufies relieved of his presenting duties by amazon, who his hit programmes the grand tour and

clarkson's farm. now the producers of the quiz show who wants to be a millionaire are mulling over his future. so should itv fire jeremy clarke . should itv fire jeremy clarke. then let's speak to a man to an east sussex . then let's speak to a man to an east sussex. hi, amanda. hi happy new year. happy new year. great to see you . amanda, are great to see you. amanda, are you in team clarkson or team markle ? oh definitely. think markle? oh definitely. think although i don't agree with some of his comments, i think he went too far and that's the he's now paying too far and that's the he's now paying because you know he's he's not really thought about how it's going to come to the majority when he put it out there i completely understood that he was referring to game of thrones scenario, not i've ever watched game of thrones reruns, but i get where he was coming from. but at the same time, not

everyone seen game of thrones. so that obviously didn't go in his favour . and although his favour. and although obviously many people have seen it but by the by he shouldn't have some of the things he said so i think the problem here now is cancel culture has become so pervasive in society that it is taking over . pervasive in society that it is taking over. the actual kind of common sense side of a situation . so in other words, instead of people taking step back and thinking the fact that he was just making a joke, he wasn't really meaning what he said about meghan markle , but he his about meghan markle, but he his feelings across as being too strong about her. so that's where it hasn't worked . but the where it hasn't worked. but the thing is, we've got to stop with this insane cancel culture because you cannot just cancel

single person in the world that you don't like . when they say you don't like. when they say something , because otherwise something, because otherwise we'll have nobody left on television or radio eventually and we'll just have a bunch of puritans who sit there and dictate to how we should live our and what we should say and how we should think. because this is where cancel culture is leading. so really don't agree with . everybody cancelling with. everybody cancelling jeremy clarkson i've never followed jeremy . i've never followed jeremy. i've never taken any interest jeremy until this happened . but now i feel this happened. but now i feel i have to stand up for him because if that my dad and my dad is of obviously they're he would have been almost of jeremy clarkson's generation although my dad was few years older probably. but if that had been my dad, i would have been really upset about how he's been treated because i don't think jeremy clarkson really meant to offend as much

as . he has really meant to offend as much as. he has managed to really meant to offend as much as . he has managed to offend , if as. he has managed to offend, if you see what i'm saying. i think kind of said it quite jokingly, but in a very poor taste. well joking, amanda, i agree with you've got a great sense of humour. clark's is a satirical figure. he's that's what he's paid to do . he's also paid to paid to do. he's also paid to have an opinion which i can relate to. the bottom line is, amanda, that he joking he said that he he said, i hate meghan markle on a cellular level that's such an extravagant way of putting it that that that in itself is sort of i mean, yes. doesn't like meghan markle, but it's a funny funny way of saying it's a funny funny way of saying it and, and he's an entertainer . and then he said that he would like her to kind of be paraded naked through the sort of the town centre and have excrement hurled her. now, as you said, that was a reference to a scene in game of thrones . some people in game of thrones. some people didn't get the reference. even those that did get the reference, the understood the context refused to acknowledge

because such is the fervent appetite to these people down the even if there is a context, it will be ignored . let's let's it will be ignored. let's let's bnng it will be ignored. let's let's bring bobby george into this, amanda, because i'd love to know what bobby thinks. i can't imagine anyone would be brave , imagine anyone would be brave, bobby, to cancel you . well bobby, to cancel you. well you've got the sack from the babe moaning about these phone wasn't on time or something . now wasn't on time or something. now anyone who writes anything , you anyone who writes anything, you put your name to it. anyone who writes anything, you put your name to it . and if you put your name to it. and if you think write in what you wrote , think write in what you wrote, that's the way of putting it . that's the way of putting it. you don't apologise because once you apologise for what you wrote , you know, you've done wrong and you knew it done wrong to light. so if he gets the sack for , then he gets the sack. but for, then he gets the sack. but you shouldn't write things that you don't feel that's good enough for you to say. i'm not apologising. i think you can

stand by. yeah that's what. that's the thing. have you met jeremy clarkson. what do you think ? him? yeah, i've met him . think? him? yeah, i've met him. i thought he was a bit arrogant , to be honest with you. you know, he's a bit on. on the captain of the ship and know is that why you come across? i didn't like him? i can't say. i mean, i was because i'm brighton. i'm writing it down. you're being polite and we're pre watershed. but knows what we're talking about. i think we've got sean as . well. let's we've got sean as. well. let's bnng we've got sean as. well. let's bring sean into this conversation , sean if we can, conversation, sean if we can, alongside amanda and bobby hazel. welcome to the show. a warm welcome to mark dowler today and the people's our. should itv sack jeremy . no they should itv sack jeremy. no they shouldn't . i think the issue shouldn't. i think the issue here is who's the arbiter or arbiters of free speech. mean we've got the princess of woke almost like judge jury hangman. you know we've had piers morgan

and now jeremy clarkson. i mean it's almost like we going back to spanish inquisition. i don't what you say so you're going to be cancelled now . jeremy be cancelled now. jeremy clarkson is to free his views. i mean, some might like it some might not, but at the end of the day, a defence is taken , not day, a defence is taken, not given. now, jeremy clarkson, in my article and i think, you know, it's been mentioned before, it's all about context and ten 100 people could read or , hear the article and have different views on it. so one is why should one or two or three people say more individual needs to be cancelled? it really is getting mind blowing now in terms of a democracy in free speech, which is what i thought this country was all about. but are almost a front put head above the parapet. and so what think. yes. he probably went a little bit too far, but i would cite jo brand now. jo brand came out left wing. jeremy clarkson's

right wing. so why are the rules different for jo, but not for jeremy? you know , it just seems jeremy? you know, it just seems that we've got parallel rules being imposed upon us from on higher suggest in terms of what we can say and what we can write . and it's all about context , i . and it's all about context, i mean, parody and satire seem to have gone out the window which which is worrying . well, first which is worrying. well, first of all, you are absolute right. you've dropped a few truth truth bombs of yourself. there because, of course, jo brand is a talented comedian, said on her on a bbc radio four comedy show that like i think to throw acid at nigel farage now to defend her and to give the context that you point out been ignored in relation to clarkson . she was relation to clarkson. she was joking. she was being satirical. i liked a joke. joking. she was being satirical. i liked a joke . but as you said, i liked a joke. but as you said, her career unaffected. she remains a in liberal circles . remains a in liberal circles. and of course, we had miriam

margolyes, the actress who said that she hoped boris johnson would die when he had covid. absolutely. i mean, you pick these out, you could spend all day months here going through this and you think, well, i come back to my original point, who's the arbiter says it was saying who should be cancelled and shouldn't be cancelled? and must admit i'm getting a little frustrated with these corporation and as media, you know, sort coming down on one side only and they need to get a backbone and say look win the support are going to write satirical comments these parody that's what it's about. if we take that away from him then you taking away from his character and all be homogenous. i mean , and all be homogenous. i mean, who wants to live in a society that why some don't support different opinions ? to write different opinions? to write a great debut in east sussex as always knocked it out of the park . wait to see both of you

park. wait to see both of you very soon. it's time to move on to our next topic after the break. buzz aldrin , space break. buzz aldrin, space legend. one of the first men to enter outside of the orbit. well on cloud nine at the moment, he's married his long time love on his third birthday, she is 40 years younger. do age gap marriages work? we'll find out .

next welcome back to mark dolan tonight and the people's hour, in which i take your video calls on big stories of the day . on big stories of the day. coming up at nine in dolans diary. i'll be looking back at the big stories of the week and in my take it ten more stronger opinion alongside my panel and tomorrow's papers . but now let's tomorrow's papers. but now let's get to the very good news . a

get to the very good news. a true legend of space, buzz aldrin has married on his third birthday and the woman he's married is 63. that's right. 30 years younger than him. so it begs the question , do age gap begs the question, do age gap relations chips work? i'll get to your calls shortly. but with me my saturday sidekick is , me my saturday sidekick is, dance legend bobby . now, bobby dance legend bobby. now, bobby believes that your beautiful mrs. george is a couple of years younger than . 12 years. does it younger than. 12 years. does it work ? obviously, she was 24 work? obviously, she was 24 years younger. well, i'm sure it looks like . i don't know. i looks like. i don't know. i think a man is going to be older than the woman. okay when you when you're young, i mean, dan up when you're young, i mean, dan up to his light so that you five. yeah a woman grows up 18 different. so you'd say the age gap is a good thing. it's a thing when you're younger. now got a friend. he's 30. he so i

think he's 32. and each month is 70. and then they love each other, they get on well. so she's the older lady. she's the older lady . but we all know the older lady. but we all know the great, you know , people have great, you know, people have shots when they says, this is me. well, let's. but, you know, he loves his wife , so it's nice. he loves his wife, so it's nice. it works . and for us all, buzz. it works. and for us all, buzz. but he's over the moon , flying but he's over the moon, flying over a yellow light . your wife, over a yellow light. your wife, any he really is so. and apparently she's a doctor , so apparently she's a doctor, so he's she could look after him as well. you can't be a good luck thing. so i say good , well, thing. so i say good, well, she's already taken his pulse. and apparently pretty fast after all, they just their wedding nights. so we go to amanda in east sussex, i believe. amanda with us. amanda, do age gap relationships work in case of buzz aldrin and the new mrs. aldrin it's 30 is okay . that's

aldrin it's 30 is okay. that's very much of gap the main mark on it too cringey for me i couldn't do that lightly. i just think there has to be like you have to have things in common. you to be able to have a long relationship and with that much of an age gap , he's obviously of an age gap, he's obviously going to be gone a lot sooner. she is. so it's almost like, well , you know what she is. so it's almost like, well, you know what kind of relationship is really? because she will end up on her own and obviously, if they love each other , luck to them. i've got no other, luck to them. i've got no problem with that. but i person only for myself. i couldn't do that. i couldn't marry someone that. i couldn't marry someone that much older than me. i just couldn't . firstly, he's a famous couldn't. firstly, he's a famous , isn't he? he must be worth a lot of money as well. do you think that's fact? we often see

these ageing millionaires finding a younger model . yeah, finding a younger model. yeah, that's what makes me quite cynical about it, because we seen this before with some other well—known like hugh hefner, for instance . i mean, how many much instance. i mean, how many much younger wives did he have along the way? and i think he had like three or four at one time all at the same time, you know? i mean, it's kind of it's not traditional , it's kind of it's not traditional, is it's kind of it's not traditional , is there? it's kind of it's not traditional, is there? and i'm a traditional, is there? and i'm a traditional kind of girl, you know, so i like i like the old fashioned of marriage where you marry someone that you kind of have genuine things in common and you you you you go through life a similar pace together . life a similar pace together. you grow together , you know, you grow together, you know, when there's not much of an age gap, you really grow together because one of you is that much , so many years older. but not much to grow you know. so not many years left to grow . yeah,

many years left to grow. yeah, that's that's the problem . let's that's that's the problem. let's see if we can bring some of our other callers and this is the people's if you've enjoyed watching the show, if like to be part of it, drop me an email gbnews.uk . look at that . is back gbnews.uk. look at that. is back in the house as is alan. alan, let ask you, do you think age got relationships ? i don't know got relationships? i don't know the actual , but over my head the actual, but over my head i would say maybe one in three or one in four will work. would say maybe one in three or one in four will work . and i'm one in four will work. and i'm one in four will work. and i'm one of them. one of the ones in work because my ex was 18 years younger than me . and it's not an younger than me. and it's not an age difference , mark. it's age difference, mark. it's a generation difference. i can talk about esoteric matches . one talk about esoteric matches. one of the best rolling stone albums ever and ex wouldn't even know who i was talking. and so the lady who just said about that , lady who just said about that, about the differences is spot on. it's not the age , it's the

on. it's not the age, it's the culture difference . yeah yeah. culture difference. yeah yeah. andrew what do think? i completely disagree. so i was in a relationship , a guy who was 18 a relationship, a guy who was 18 years older than me and we were together for eight years and. so it can be beneficial . and you it can be beneficial. and you know, to be honest with you and you know , if that people genuine you know, if that people genuine love each other, then why not fry has a partner who of a similar age gap and they going strong it's a cheap to love each other then you know my view is live and let live what a lovely spirit what do you think about this sean ? well can tell you this sean? well can tell you a seven and seven year age gap works because on the product of that after 36 years so seven years works but 30 years. yeah that would be a stretch and

certainly you wouldn't be thinking about children or certainly not thinking children with study age gap 30 year. i like that yeah that's that's a stretch . well i won't ask about stretch. well i won't ask about the age gap between frances you and chaos the dog but that's clearly a marriage made in heaven can . i thank all of you heaven can. i thank all of you tonight. i've really your company fantastic to the people's hour francis sean , people's hour francis sean, andrew, alan and a potentially the best people's panel we've had. and of course a dream team here in the studio, myself and the wonderful darts legend bobby, george, bobby, do come back again and see us soon. coming up in the big question, do demonise the rich ? and in do demonise the rich? and in dolans diary, my back at the week's big stories. i'm not pulling my punches. see you shortly .

on mark dolan tonight in. just a few minutes. it's dolans in which i look back . the week's which i look back. the week's news followed by full panel reaction in the big question as thousands of millionaires leave the country each year, we were asking, do demonise this super rich and in the news agenda with my panel should not in the hallway the tory chairman lose his job amid a tax row also as sex workers invade davos in switzer bid to service the elites have we normalised prostitution and what's the way to ask for a pay rise? we've also got the papers the earlier time of 1020 right through until 11. lots to get through, including dolan's diary next. but first the headlines with

tatiana sanchez . mark, thank you tatiana sanchez. mark, thank you very much. this is the latest from the gb newsroom former chancellor nadhim zahawi has soared address questions over his tax affairs. it follows reports he paid a penalty as part of a multi million pound tax settlement . in a statement, tax settlement. in a statement, the conservative chairman said the conservative chairman said the hmrc accepted he made a careless but not deliberate error in relation to the sale of shares in yougov. that's the polling company he founded. mr. zahawi has been under pressure following claims he tried to avoid paying tax and labour have said his position untenable . the said his position untenable. the prime is facing a renewed wave of criticism from mps with labour describing him as a total lie after he was fined police for a second time. rishi sunak because apologised for not wearing a seat belt while filming a social media in a

moving car. earlier week, the prime minister was also fined last year for breaking lockdown restrictions in 2020. shadow financial secretary james murray. mr. sunak has lost control . just when you thought control. just when you thought the conservatives couldn't get any more rishi sunak shows that he can't even and he signs it out and i think this speaks this big volumes about the fact the prime minister is not is not in control and can compared keir starmer with rishi sunak keir starmer with rishi sunak keir starmer has been on the economic forum this week promoting the uk from writing plans for economic growth in rishi sunak's complex design set out . i think people design set out. i think people will make their own judgement about who's going to lead the country, but the deputy prime minister, dominic raab, has defended mr. sunak saying he's a human being who made a mistake. the prime minister put his hand straight up. it was a mistake . straight up. it was a mistake. he's apologised for it. he takes for it. he hasn't actually gone

that path of blaming anyone else . he's taken responsibility for it. he'll pay the fine. he's a human as well as a busy politician . and the prime politician. and the prime minister got a frantic, hectic schedule , but he's made it clear schedule, but he's made it clear there's no excuses . the founder there's no excuses. the founder of the bus firm stagecoach , of the bus firm stagecoach, shame and cloak has strongly disputed what she calls malicious allegations made against her after she was charged with human trafficking offences. police scotland's as three other people understood to be members of her family were charged on thursday in connection with alleged immigration offences. ms. clegg denies all the allegations . denies all the allegations. police have been given more time . question a man who was arrested on suspicion of a terror offence at a hospital in leeds. the 27 year old man is being held and interviewed by police in west yorkshire. he was allegedly seen with a suspected firearm and a suspicious package at st hospital's maternity yesterday morning . the met

yesterday morning. the met office has issued a weather warning for fog tomorrow . says warning for fog tomorrow. says the worst of the cold spell is now coming to an end. the alert covering the south and east of england will be in place until a m on monday. drivers are being warned of icy conditions with possible disruption to flight path next week. however, temperatures across the country are expected to yet again . tv are expected to yet again. tv and dab radio . this is gb news. and dab radio. this is gb news. now it's back to model tonight . now it's back to model tonight. my now it's back to model tonight. my thanks to tatiana sanchez returns in an hour's time welcome to mark dolan tonight in just a couple of minutes it's dolan diary in which i look back at the week's news followed by panel reaction in the big question as thousands millionaires leave the country,

each , we're asking, do we each, we're asking, do we demonise the super rich? shouldn't we love them so that they stay here and spend their money in united kingdom. we've also the papers at the earlier time , 1020, right through 11. time, 1020, right through 11. we'll be joined the telegraph's sam ashworth . hayes and in news sam ashworth. hayes and in news agenda with my panel, should nadhim zahawi, the tory chairman , lose his job over a tax scandal ? and as sex workers scandal? and as sex workers davos to service the elites? have we normalise prostitution? should we go about making this activity a greater . plus, what's activity a greater. plus, what's the best way to ask your boss for a pay rise. we'll give you some top tips. reacting those stories and many more and, including tomorrow's sunday papers . all my brilliant panel papers. all my brilliant panel of singer, songwriter and yes , of singer, songwriter and yes, eurovision winner jazz austin .

eurovision winner jazz austin. we also have an intellectual giant on the show. broadcaster the uk director of the common sense society , emma webb . and sense society, emma webb. and last but not least, essayist and best selling author phil campion, a man who i feel safer just being around in the studio. now i want to hear from you throughout the show market. this programme a golden rule. it's a strict we don't do boring not on my watch i just won't have it. so for the next 2 hours, big debates, big guests and always big opinions. debates, big guests and always big opinions . let's start with big opinions. let's start with this . one big opinions. let's start with this. one it's time for dolans diary. my look back at, the week's big stories. parting diary. my look back at, the week's big stories . parting such week's big stories. parting such sweet sorrow , the smiling sweet sorrow, the smiling tyrants. the grinning dictator , tyrants. the grinning dictator, the laughing autocrats . jacinda the laughing autocrats. jacinda

ardern, the super woke new zealand premier is no more . in zealand premier is no more. in a statement fake as that platinum of hers, she said that she doesn't have the energy to prime minister any more. that there isn't enough in the tank. well, what she's lost is not energy course. politicians don't . she's course. politicians don't. she's lost public support. she was going lose the next election . going lose the next election. why? because she turned once great and of course, beautiful country new zealand , a hellish country new zealand, a hellish police state in which neighbours were told not to talk to each other and. the unvaccinated were told they would be hunted down. she became the flagbearer for china's zero—covid approach and reflects, in my view that was wrong with . the global pandemic wrong with. the global pandemic response . she would argue that response. she would argue that her policy has saved lives and given the gushing tributes . it's

given the gushing tributes. it's clear she's a popular and admired figure for many around the world, offering a different way of doing . but i'll take the way of doing. but i'll take the old way of doing politics if . old way of doing politics if. you don't mind given that this new style politician was linked to the world economic forum's globalist agenda? in office, she enthusiastically with china on leaving her ethics the door. she was a politician who smiled when . she happily confirmed that un vaccine ated people would be treated as second class citizens . and she told the public , stop . and she told the public, stop reading any information about the pandemic that didn't come straight from the government . straight from the government. she famously said that her government was the only source of truth. words that could comfortably reside in george orwell's dystopian classic 1984. jacinda done the kiwi mussolini is no more good riddance now.

richie sunak is in hot water after failing to wear a seatbelt whilst recording an instagram video in the back of . whilst recording an instagram video in the back of. hisjag video in the back of. his jag crew . the economy. and today crew. the economy. and today we're announcing the second round of allocation from levelling up fund and that's about investing in local areas in order to create jobs and help deliver on that promise to boost growth . okay. he made a mistake growth. okay. he made a mistake it's much safer to wear a seat belt but is this how trivial politics has now with one paper laughably comparing this story to ? they say you get the to? they say you get the politicians you deserve . you get politicians you deserve. you get the journalists you deserve as well. and it's my view that so of the scribblers in fleet streets and powerful media figures on tv on the radio and onune figures on tv on the radio and online couldn't give one hoots about the real lives of their audience . it's all just a game audience. it's all just a game to . but for the millions

to. but for the millions struggling , the cost of living struggling, the cost of living and trying to access public services that don't work, it's anything but a game . but hey, anything but a game. but hey, keep talking about richie sunak and his trip in a car. sometimes i just wish the establishment media would up . a mother has media would up. a mother has gone viral online by sharing a photograph of a pathetic lunch given to her child devoid of nutrition . feeding children nutrition. feeding children correctly is the best investment we could make. good healthy food and enough proper will produce a generation of strong, energetic and. productive people. a couple of years ago i reported a story in which a primary teacher was reduced to tears when they opened one child's lunchbox provided by their parents. what was in that lunchbox ? a kit—kat was in that lunchbox? a kit—kat and a can of red bull. borderline criminal. but these school dinners don't look much .

school dinners don't look much. what children in the classroom is essential . but what they eat is essential. but what they eat in lunch hole is just important . counter—terrorism staff, in lunch hole is just important . counter—terrorism staff , the . counter—terrorism staff, the home office have been given lessons on neo pronouns used by people . civil servants told to people. civil servants told to use so—called non—bio diary pronouns like they and them. and so—called neo pronouns . ze pronouns like they and them. and so—called neo pronouns. ze or. in its push to gender neutralise the presentation at the home office even said that referring to colleagues mates is not since this is a male gendered term. one slide showed an employee apologising for using the term mate to refer someone that said they them colleague before saying thank for correcting me . saying thank for correcting me. welcome to hell. be clear this

our department for homeland secure. now it's fair to say that trans people suffer appalling prejudice and abuse and the home office are clearly trying to make them feel included. many would argue it's simply to acknowledge people's pronouns and the gender by which they identify . but if this is they identify. but if this is happening at the home office , happening at the home office, you feel safe in hands. will you be checking a terrorist? pronouns next time they approach you with a machete . the west has you with a machete. the west has folks sometimes i think we deserve obliteration . having deserve obliteration. having been the darling of america's woke media elite, the halo has supped woke media elite, the halo has slipped for prince harry as leftie liberal comedians like jemmy kimmel. now openly mock the prince for . jemmy kimmel. now openly mock the prince for. his navel gazing exploits when . people just exploits when. people just resort to laughing you and doing 9395 resort to laughing you and doing gags about you . you know, the gags about you. you know, the game up. after all the pun is

mightier than the sword . prince mightier than the sword. prince charles is to give up his traditional silk breeches. those famous silk and velvet gowns that would normally be worn on a coronation . instead, for his big coronation. instead, for his big day , he will wear his military day, he will wear his military apparel . what a terrible waste. apparel. what a terrible waste. not only is our new monarch one of the most elegant public out there, king has a king. excellent pair of legs. and now we won't see them. more's the pity. and that was my diary of the week . a range of issues . the week. a range of issues. what's your reaction, mark, at gbnews.uk ? i think there's been gbnews.uk? i think there's been a total overreaction to seatbelt guilt. i'll get that sentence out. seat gate , seat belt gate. out. seat gate, seat belt gate. there you go. i've corrected the word . i don't know why there's

word. i don't know why there's such a drama about rishi sunak to wear a seat belt in the back of a car? yes. you should wear a seat belt. but why is it story? i'll get to your emails shortly. but reacting to dolan's diary all my amazing panel of singer songwriter and eurovision pop supremoj . aston we've got the supremo j. aston we've got the uk director of the sense society and well—established intellect will giants emma webb and broadcaster, best selling and essayist, hero phil campion. after what story caught your eye this week? not as well as it used to be fair. in call them all, but the seat belt who write this in the seat belt? that's the thing for me. that is the taliban for its ridiculous prime minister want a seat belt of looked diplomats all sorts of levels and you know we used to them into cars or back at least to show the seat belts because we knew that the chances were

they were that busy during the time that they had to do with their paperwork half of them are still with the next meeting you know they are busy they are rushed and they do forget things. so you know the drill certainly day was to certainly for in that day was to hand him his belt was up, hand him his seat belt was up, put in the for whatever put him in the car for whatever reason overlooked. is reason has been overlooked. is it story, dogma? no, no, it a story, dogma? no, no, charles, at all. it's just absolute tittle tattle. rubbish. yeah. what's that? what's grinding what's grinding your gaze? what's caught eye? big phil, caught your eye? big phil, i looked at the germans backing out ukrainians, out of this. the ukrainians, a leopard it is shocker. leopard to tank it is a shocker. absolutely shocker . and it just absolutely shocker. and it just it just enhances my view of europe, again , to say you are europe, again, to say you are weak willed. you are lily staff to step up to the make the mark and as you're going to do something do it if not step aside. we're not going to do it for you. they to live under the umbrella of everybody else doing everything push comes everything but when push comes to never, ever to shove, they have never, ever got the bottle to go forward with what they're doing. well yeah. emma webb, i'm so glad that phil has mentioned this. where this awful, dastardly

country with a shameful history. the united kingdom .we've country with a shameful history. the united kingdom . we've got to the united kingdom. we've got to apologise for everything . and of apologise for everything. and of course, we left the european, which has made us the bad boy of the western world, but his lovely sweets woke liberal germany who will not support ukraine in the war efforts against putin. i'm not surprised by this . i think that was where by this. i think that was where we're seeing we'll talk about again this evening with the world economic forum's conference and the prostitution that's taking place , the world that's taking place, the world leaders across , the globe are leaders across, the globe are complete . and jacinda ardern is complete. and jacinda ardern is a perfect example of this. i would like to say farewell to that tyrant . i think that she's that tyrant. i think that she's a perfect example of that kind of hypocrisy. she's woman who likes to talk about her legacy being one of kindness and niceness , when in fact actually niceness, when in fact actually the why she's stepping down is obviously because her electoral prospects have been damaged by her covid policies that the

people of new zealand are absolutely not with her. and that's because of the callousness of the policies that she imposed in the name of kindness and niceness. so i think that this is something that we see not just with jacinda ardern, we're seeing it now with the germans. we see it all across the world with with leaders everywhere . i think that leaders everywhere. i think that is perfectly expected. judge people by their enemies and their friends hilarious to see all of the woke politicians gushing about the autocrat. jacinda all and including the london mayor khan who thinks she's kind of heroine. but look, as i said in dolan's diary, many people do think she saved lives in new zealand and that she's been a great leader. it's all about opinions. what's yours, justine. what caught your eye this week at? the school dinners, school meals. there's always been the joke that looks like school meal, spontaneous , like school meal, spontaneous, always laughed at that. really? i remember back in the seventies and eighties, we never had great

school meals , but i think and eighties, we never had great school meals, but i thin k £2.50 school meals, but i think £2.50 being the price of the average school . in this day and age. school. in this day and age. terrible. and i really think the government needs to put more money into giving our next generation and feeding them healthily which i think is three point important is would be a really positive thing. i mean the picture of that mum showing , her kids having like a one little spuds and like a chicken nugget is hardly how we can grow the next to run the country and, and let develop i mean at school they're at school , it's there. they're at school, it's there. you know, they're working hard. they walk squat, walk to school and back. so they're tired they can't possibly just get by on a meal that's supposed to pound things. well, yeah, absolutely we had that song in the eighties feed world well can we feed the kids for starters please. coming up kids for starters please. coming up in the news agenda should nadine's the hallway the tory chairman lose job over a tax

scam ? the next and the big scam? the next and the big question we demonise the super rich. should we? i'll see you .

three well, a big reaction to dolan's diary. i don't . the drama of diary. i don't. the drama of seatback gates. the prime minister forgot to put his seatbelt on. he's apologised. he's been fined this from jail. hi, mark. poor rishi sunak. it's as if he hasn't got enough to contend. i guess he had to be fined according to the law. but for goodness sake, give him a break for his obvious . great break for his obvious. great show. really and funny too. you certainly brighten up the weekend evening as well . thank weekend evening as well. thank you for your kind words. i couldn't do it without you and everybody. that is part the mark dolan tonight. if you're enjoying show, tell your friends, tell your family and

let's change the world together . it's let's change the world together .wsfime let's change the world together . it's time now for this. let's change the world together . it's time now for this . yes, . it's time now for this. yes, it's . it's time now for this. yes, wsfime . it's time now for this. yes, it's time for the big question in which we tackle a major news story the day the telegraph this week report that the ultra wealthy are deserting britain , wealthy are deserting britain, piling extra pressure on public finances. a series of punishing tax changes. political uncertainty and more difficult migration rules have caused the ultra wealthy to shun the uk and take their money elsewhere . take their money elsewhere. experts have warned this has reduced the nation's tax and resulted in higher on ordinary households to fill the gap, according analysis by migration consultant ac henley and partners. the country has seen a net out flow of 12,000 wealthy individual calls. those with assets in of more than individual calls. those with assets in of more tha n £800,000 assets in of more than £800,000 since 2017, with 1500 rich

individuals leaving year alone. given that wealthy people pay a disproportion , fortunately large disproportion, fortunately large amount of tax in relation to all the citizens always shooting ourselves in the foot. let's debate this with yaron brook , debate this with yaron brook, author and podcaster, and paddy shannon, co—editor of the socialist standard . let me start socialist standard. let me start with you , paddy jo. shannon, with you, paddy jo. shannon, lovely to have you on the programme. do we demonise the rich? after all, it appears that last year we lost hundred wealthy people . they've taken wealthy people. they've taken their tax money elsewhere . their tax money elsewhere. i mean, if you've been following the news, the world economic forum in davos, apparently 200 million, 200 millionaires are demanding that the rich pay more tax . so now we've got the tax. so now we've got the interesting situation where. even the rich say that rich should be taxed . but my view on should be taxed. but my view on this wouldn't . i mean, if i if i

this wouldn't. i mean, if i if i tell you i think about the rich and tax it, it probably wouldn't make all that much sense unless i give it a bit of context. so is okay if i sort of do that first? well, yes. i mean , you first? well, yes. i mean, you know , the time is tight. but if know, the time is tight. but if you can do it succinctly, you're than welcome. well, i'll do it quickly then . you know, as you quickly then. you know, as you said, i'm part of the socialist party in great britain. and most people, you know, the socialists communists, it means different things. so to cut through the fog, i want suggest a sorts of analogy. supposing that you and i and bunch us on a tropical i and a bunch us on a tropical island. i mean, these things we to discuss our best survival . to discuss our best survival. now one option might be you suggest is, you know, we work together. we our skills and resources, we survive that way , resources, we survive that way, i make a suggestion i might as a suggestion that because own boats i, i therefore have the right to be in charge, tell you what to do and mate you all the work. now, remember that, the

issue is our survival . so the issue is our survival. so the question is, do we stick with the principle, the tradition of private property or do we ditch that and work as a democratic collective in order to survive? now it's the same logic. collective in order to survive? now it's the same logic . you now it's the same logic. you scale it right up to the size of the earth because the earth is island in space and we're all trying to survive on it. so what is our best survival strategy? rich elite or collective cooperation ? now that's the cooperation? now that's the that's the that's the analogy over with. so if i then come to look at the question of taxing the rich think you can probably understand from that. what i'm really trying to say is we don't want any or poor we don't want a situation of private property and the rich 1% holding an incredible of power and control incredible of power and control in the world while the rest of us do all the and have no real say , plus the fact that is, you say, plus the fact that is, you know , driving climate change. know, driving climate change. this is extinction. and the worst of it is . now do you see

worst of it is. now do you see my sort of perspective ? okay. my sort of perspective? okay. well, look, thank you for that succinct overview, paddy. joe shannon. yaron brook is an author and podcaster. you've written at length about the issue of wealth . what do you issue of wealth. what do you think ? about 1500 people of net think? about 1500 people of net worth leaving the united kingdom last year. does that tell us about what's happening to the british economy ? well, first of british economy? well, first of all, it tells us that the 200 million is a road that led to arguing to hs2 on taxes of a disingenuous because obviously you know you should you should evaluate them based on on what they do not what they say and leaving they're leaving because taxes are high. they don't want to pay taxes and nor should they want their taxes. these are some of the productive human of the most productive human beings the planet . the ultra beings on the planet. the ultra rich or dominant of the ultra rich or dominant of the ultra rich suddenly in countries like the united states and the uk are people who produced created they

product . so the fact that we product. so the fact that we have chosen a society of corporation , we have chosen corporation, we have chosen a society of division of labour, we have chosen a society in which people specialise and area of expertise is entrepreneurial wealth . the work is don't have wealth. the work is don't have jobs without entrepreneurs and without financiers and without managers and without ceos and without the people who contribute the bulk of the wealth creation in our societies. so i think we do demonise them. we the productive ones more . we demonise the ones ones more. we demonise the ones who inherit the money. we're much favourable towards the royal family in england, it seems to me, than we are towards the entrepreneur who builds wealth and creates as well. and is actually employs people and changes the world and we've seen the consequence of what happens when you when you do away with division of labour, when you do away with private property, the consequence of mass starvation

and, mass death. this is an issue survival. capitalism is the by which human beings survive capitalism. would have a lot fewer people on planet earth. and there would be a lot , lot poorer than they are today. however, is it not morally wrong , yaron brook, that morally wrong, yaron brook, that people drive around central london and manchester as well? birmingham in gold plating had lamborghinis worth birmingham in gold plating had lamborghinis wort h £1,000,000. lamborghinis worth £1,000,000. is right. morally it might be bad taste, but i don't see how morally wrong it's not. it's their money. they can do whatever they want with it. it's not offending anybody. it's not hurting anybody . it's not at hurting anybody. it's not at anybody's expense . they're not anybody's expense. they're not exploiting anybody in spite of what the socialists might say. doesit what the socialists might say. does it reflect does it reflect a broken offensive about your own ? does it reflect a broken own? does it reflect a broken system that you've got people driving around in gold plated lamborghinis driving past people and the pavement? you haven't got a roof their head. yes, i

think it does represent a broken and represents the fact that there's so many people in, england today that don't have jobs and don't have jobs where their productive enough to make a wage. and that is a consequence of too much government interference, too much regulation , taxes that are much regulation, taxes that are too high kicking out 1500. wealthy entrepreneurs who were the job creators in our economy is not to help the person who is sleeping the street the way they hope.the sleeping the street the way they hope. the person steve on the street is the courage one to convert to encourage more wealth creation, to encourage more creation. that's how you deal with poverty. you don't deal with poverty. you don't deal with by redistributing wealth, you deal with poverty by wealth, by creating wealth. okay listen, patti jo, shannon , final point patti jo, shannon, final point to you . i think the socialist to you. i think the socialist utopia is some way. so can we just talk about where we today? patti jo and the fact that those

people driving around in lamborghinis , well, they spend lamborghinis, well, they spend a lot of money. they're in this country. they pay a lot tax, they create jobs. they often invest . how they create jobs. they often invest. how is it they create jobs. they often invest . how is it good news for invest. how is it good news for the for policing for nurses , for the for policing for nurses, for teachers, for public investment, if leave the country? how does that help the public sector ? that help the public sector? well, it probably doesn't. i mean, you know, my view is if people want to tax the rich and, you know , because, you know, you know, because, you know, they do pay tax but, you know, people tax the rich more well you know not be sells out for my . we've done that they're leaving paddy joe. so how does that work how is that good for the poor ? how is that good for the poor? how is that good for the poor? how is that good for the public sector ? i that's why the public sector? i that's why i let's pick up a point that was made earlier, which is sort of assumption you see a lot, which that the rich create wealth. i

mean, the rich provide money to jobs and all that sort of thing. but where did they get the money? well, from profits , if money? well, from profits, if you money doesn't wealth, people do buy work. it's workers that create wealth. so that's the bafic create wealth. so that's the basic you know all the wealth created by the labour of human beings if you take a of point this and stick it in a field and wait for weeks, it's not going to build you any or any hospitals. it's human beings that create wealth . so what we that create wealth. so what we need what we need in the to world create wealth is workers. we don't the rich. we can. we could quite happily organise the world as a giant co—operative . world as a giant co—operative. the rich there no one without entrepreneurs and people with have ideas. what creates wealth ofideas? have ideas. what creates wealth of ideas? and the to organise workers to do the work they don't sell organise. it's never happen. never will happen. okay. well look a fast dating debate. this show is all about opinions potty shannon, it's been

brilliant to have you on the show. i do hope you'll come back and see us again. fascinating conversation, co—editor of the highly respected socialist standard , a bit of an iconic standard, a bit of an iconic tome that is to give it a look if you've got time and a good friend of mine, yaron brook, of course, one of the most popular talk show hosts in america. check out his youtube channel. he's subscribers . he's a gazillion subscribers. author, podcaster, you name it. we'll see you again soon. yaron what's your reaction market? jb news dot uk coming up. we've got the papers at 1020. that's 10 minutes earlier than everyone else . full panel reaction. the else. full panel reaction. the papers from 1020 right through until 11 on but next should nadine's the hallway the tory chairman his job over a tax scandal. see you shortly .

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pretty spectacular sunday front pages pumping off the printing presses. we'll bring you reaction from my own star panel who tonight are songwriter and eurovision jay aston, broadcaster and the uk director of the common sense society, emma webb, and essays hero and best selling author phil, we've got the papers at 1020 right through until 11 now. news in former chancellor nadhim has agreed to pay a penalty to hmrc , part of a seven figure settlement over his tax affairs. it's been reported it's a hallway had the penalty impose cost as part of an estimated hallway had the penalty impose cost as part of an estimate d £5 cost as part of an estimated £5 million in tax bill. so begs the question, should nadhim zahawi lose his job? he's the of the conservative party. should he stepped down or be fired by? his boss, rishi sunak , emma webb. is boss, rishi sunak, emma webb. is this rishi sunak's first proper scandal ? and should he act? it scandal? and should he act? it shouldn't be . i think the whole shouldn't be. i think the whole i think the whole thing is

farcical. i think firstly with the seatbelt gate , seat gate the seatbelt gate, seat gate belts, as you're saying earlier , i think even seeing dominic raab trying to defend rishi sunak for not wearing a seatbelt is farcical. and i think this is the same thing with nadhim zahawi that the press in many ways the way that they're behaving, which is applying the kind of methodology of the twitter mob to absolutely everything is destroying politician ability to do their job is destroying them their ability to get on with doing the difficult job of politics because every move they make, they're criticised for these petty, silly things and we don't know when this was that? nadhim zahawi apparently made a mistake with paying his tax bill. sometimes that happens, sometimes happens with very large amounts of money, but that isn't reason for him to lose isn't a reason for him to lose his job. there's no proof he's done this intentionally. this even tax avoidance. it's even it was tax avoidance. it's not. the same thing not. that's not the same thing as evasion. he has as tax evasion. he has an actively tried pay his actively tried to not pay his tax and in fact has paid tax bill and in fact has paid this back and will and or this money back and will and or already has done paid this

penalty. on top of that . so penalty. on top of that. so i just think the whole thing is a confected outrage yet again . and confected outrage yet again. and this is being instrumentalized by opposition to try and present the concern actives as being in chaos and i think there are many things to criticise the conservative party for, but we distracted the real things distracted from the real things by on all these city by focusing on all of these city things seatbelts and curry. things like seatbelts and curry. is really an oversight to not is it really an oversight to not declare millions of pounds worth of income? huge oversight, certainly . but these sorts of certainly. but these sorts of things happen. i mean think things happen. i mean i think it's not it's not quite seatbelt gate it? i mean this is you gate is it? i mean this is you know, is getting hot know, this is getting in hot water with see, this is not water with hmrc see, this is not just chairman the just the chairman of the conservative party. it's ex chancellor. was going on chancellor. this was going on whilst he was at business. he was in the treasury. there's no suggestion that this wasn't anything than an mistake. anything other than an mistake. and sorts things do and so those sorts of things do happen. and i unless there's proof of some active intention to, know, talk to to, you know, talk to wrongdoing, then there's no reason to make such a such a fuss about. i don't think he should lose his job. i don't that rishi sunak should fire him

for i think that politicians are a who do sometimes make a human who do sometimes make honest say, there honest mistakes. as i say, there are of things that can are lots of things that we can be criticising government be criticising the government for criticising politicians for and criticising politicians for, focusing on all for, but we're focusing on all the things. do you the wrong things. what do you think this? i think he think about this? i think he should fired. he was should be fired. i really he was our chancellor if he can't fill in his tax forms properly and he's a rogue in my is a wealthy guy and he's he's had a huge pay must have a good account must must have a good account he must have good accountant and have a very good accountant and maybe be fired i just maybe should be fired i just think that that's wrong and. i just think he should go and i think should all be allowed to make a better, more informed judgement because should judgement because you should have about what have more information about what do the political do you think of the political implications is this implications for sunak? is this a for him? definitely yeah, absolutely. i mean the thing about the seat, but actually i think quite troubling. i think it's wrong that our prime minister didn't put a seatbelt on bearing in mind those children watching that clip. yeah. and he be in the back of a car . most people put seatbelt car. most people put seatbelt on. we even have potentially

like designer life issues have the seatbelt off . so i actually the seatbelt off. so i actually think the purpose of saying whatever he was going to say about whatever he was going to say, you should drive the seatbelt on and the person who was him should was filming him should absolutely sure had absolutely made sure they had a safe he knew why i think he didn't have a seatbelt on. well he might have some ruffled his suits well, europe suits a bit like well, europe performer and know about great sort of stage performance this outfit reveals it's hard to do a video in a seatbelt isn't it ? outfit reveals it's hard to do a video in a seatbelt isn't it? i think he needs to sort of be free in order, like properly deliver his message . and then deliver his message. and then what state stopped it on the phone. to plug phone. he's going to plug himself well, maybe and himself in? well, maybe and maybe was a rumpled his suit maybe it was a rumpled his suit a i think the a bit but i think for the purpose of you know talking to the about what he's going to do for and the fact that children and anybody is watching it you should a seatbelt on. it's should have a seatbelt on. it's just something you should do. so i'm sorry. disagree, think. i'm sorry. i disagree, i think. well jay's worried about i'm sorry. i disagree, i think. welseatbeltay's worried about i'm sorry. i disagree, i think. welseatbelt and, /orried about i'm sorry. i disagree, i think. welseatbelt and, youed about i'm sorry. i disagree, i think. welseatbelt and, you know, ut the seatbelt and, you know, actually thinks it is an issue. meanwhile emma is insistent leigh clear that the that the

nadhim zahawi stories overplayed. what's your . i think overplayed. what's your. i think there is an issue there because there is an issue there because the amount that you're talking we're not talking he was 50 quid why would a 50 quid there he must have some top employed and he's made a massive mistake you're talking 3 to 5 million. i mean, that's a massive amount of money. it's also a mistake. that's him previously to keep lot of money in his bank. yeah. so you're saying this is over? hang on a minute. yes, yes. i didn't trust on that. 5 million trusting me . interest on that . 5 trusting me. interest on that. 5 million alone for a couple months is worth having in your back pocket. it yeah. so you've got you've question got it. you've got to question whether oversight , whether it was an oversight, whether it was an oversight, whether it was like how whether it was, it was like how long would have been we declared that hadn't been rumbled that we hadn't been rumbled and so with me with the so that sits with me with the seatbelt think seatbelt thing. i think you should seatbelt. i'm should wear a seatbelt. i'm a massive of putting seat massive advocate of putting seat belts on. and if you're in the back, i think is a important that he put back on if you go that he put it back on if you go someone front because the someone in the front because the chances sides chances are some of my sides will stop on you if i'll come

will stop be on you if i'll come lurching forward. well you know we all go straight to the dashboard you know mean so dashboard you know i mean so yeah i am a massive i say yeah yeah i am a massive i say if going to go i would go if i was going to go i would go with campion sas top with phil campion sas hero top of oh there you go that's of me oh there you go that's something song way to depart this coil and but the politics this coil and but the politics this rishi sunak notwithstanding that think it's been overblown it is an issue that he needs to deal would he look powerful would he look strong if he fired not him? zahawi i don't know. i think that currently the conservatives are clearly in complete disarray and i think that their chances at the election with the amount of time is left to go is, you know , that is left to go is, you know, that the chances of doing well diminishing at a very, very fast . i don't know what the correct decision would be , but i think decision would be, but i think that there is definitely something to be said for not feeding this culture of sort of press hysteria , things that i press hysteria, things that i think are really in the grand of

things. not that it wasn't boris achilles heel that he couldn't fire people , which i think in fire people, which i think in the end made look weak at first. it made him look loyal, but then you realised he's got so many skeletons in the cupboard that you can't fire anyone because they'll just take revenge they'll just take their revenge on backbenches . don't you on the backbenches. don't you think would a dynamic think it would be a dynamic moment to go? i'm moment for sunak to go? i'm sorry not having this. it's sorry, i'm not having this. it's got whiff of about it. you're got a whiff of about it. you're out. it could be. but i think that the are the press the that the are that the press the opposition will continue with being up stories like this and he'll have to just keep firing and that's going to get the government nowhere. okay. well, it's my personal view that nadhim zahawi already served his punishment . nadhim zahawi already served his punishment. he said he made a mistake. he's paid a massive check to hmrc to return any cash that owed, plus a big fat fine as well. i believe in forgiveness. i believe in redemption . guy's got an amazing redemption. guy's got an amazing life story . and i've interviewed life story. and i've interviewed him a couple of times he's a gentleman. and i think one of the good guys. but look, it's all about opinions. what's

yours, mark gbnews.uk ? lots more yours, mark gbnews.uk? lots more to come , including the queen of to come, including the queen of us, show biz, royal and political reporting, kinsey schofield with some big stories about. schofield with some big stories about . joe biden, donald trump about. joe biden, donald trump and yes, queen camilla . see you and yes, queen camilla. see you shortly .

big reaction to the conversation on email market, gb news. .uk. this from richard mark with seatbelt and the accidental tax dodgen seatbelt and the accidental tax dodger, it's over. this is a bad situation . there's zero chance situation. there's zero chance of the tories returning to power unless they cami bagian on in at warp speed restore the party to the people . there you go. i do the people. there you go. i do remember gunning for kemi badenoch at the latter stages of the tory leadership. quite an impressive woman on the tax up

and tony says it's the politics of envy. meanwhile, steve says mark, this individual has a net of around £100 million. he will have accountants doing his tax return. no excuse . his position return. no excuse. his position is untenable . it's time now for is untenable. it's time now for us news . the queen of is untenable. it's time now for us news. the queen of us is untenable. it's time now for us news . the queen of us show us news. the queen of us show biz royal and political reporting, kinsey . hi, kinsey . reporting, kinsey. hi, kinsey. great show . reporting, kinsey. hi, kinsey. great show. i'm reporting, kinsey. hi, kinsey. great show . i'm enjoying you great show. i'm enjoying you this afternoon in california. well, i'm there to be enjoyed as is queen camilla, who is rather popular. tell me more . right. so popular. tell me more. right. so polling that's been done recently by newsweek , which is recently by newsweek, which is surprisingly a huge fan of the sussexes and has been very celebratory them throughout the last few years suggests that the release of spare it's hurt the not only the royal family's brand but the brand the only person coming out the winner is queen consort camilla. and why

thatis queen consort camilla. and why that is so surprising is because the netflix documentary and meghan's netflix documentary and the book come out around came out around the same time that the crown season five came out where they revisited there. three of us in this marriage and camilla is , you know, just by an camilla is, you know, just by an inch, just by an inch or two, actually popular here in the states than meghan markle is at the moment i know that you've got mixed feelings about camilla in to her role in break up of the marriage of the prince and princess of wales at the time. charles and diana, have you revisited your on camilla in recent years . yes. look, i think recent years. yes. look, i think that time heals all wounds. recent years. yes. look, i think that time heals all wounds . you that time heals all wounds. you know i think throughout the king charles reign, you'll that the relationship ship the history evolve and think that perhaps will remember charles and camilla's love story is much more romantic than you . we we've

more romantic than you. we we've thought of it in the past but you know her her great great grandmother alice was his great grandfather's mistress. they neverin grandfather's mistress. they never in a million years would have imagined that the mistress could actually sit on the with the king this is to me that that's pretty exciting so historic actually it's wild to that evolution. yes mean look to be blunt, i think might consider her to have been something of a home wrecker . that was her to have been something of a home wrecker. that was certainly diana's . she said in that diana's. she said in that panorama interview , there are panorama interview, there are there are three of us in this relationship . she hasn't put relationship. she hasn't put a foot wrong since she married charles, has she ? she's an charles, has she? she's an attractive woman . she she has attractive woman. she she has dignity , good humoured, and she dignity, good humoured, and she fights for some great causes , fights for some great causes, you know, it's surprising really when you say home wrecker , it's when you say home wrecker, it's almost like a little it's a choir singing. i think it's your angeuc choir singing. i think it's your angelic face. i think it's because you have the face of a five year old boy. but you're

right, she's absolutely behaved herself. she and i and i think that i honestly that people are watching harry and meghan throw grenades from the states really appreciate the fact that family is focusing on serving others and they're not getting mixed up in the mud. and i think that while harry and meghan continue to have this pity party that i mean looking at my watch it's been three years when is it going to expire? when does a pity going to expire? when does a pity party end? when the lights go think the people just go out. i think the people just kind of impressed by the fact that charles, camilla william kind of impressed by the fact that catherinezamilla william kind of impressed by the fact that catherine continue �*illiam kind of impressed by the fact that catherine continue to am kind of impressed by the fact that catherine continue to do and catherine continue to do their duty they focus on the their duty and they focus on the future. indeed and i think that camilla gives him a lot of emotional and moral support as as he weathers the royal storm from the west coast of the united states. can we talk how king charles will be dressed at coronation ? yes. so it does coronation? yes. so it does appear that he's going to step back. appear that he's going to step back . from what we've seen , you back. from what we've seen, you know, traditionally over

centuries with the stockings , we centuries with the stockings, we call them pantyhose here, mark. but you guys call them stockings . it appears that he's going to a military uniform. i have such a military uniform. i have such a debate about on social media. people are upset. they want to continue with this tradition . continue with this tradition. they want to see, you know , all they want to see, you know, all of the all of the drama of a coronation . and but i honestly , coronation. and but i honestly, that this is a really good move i cite for modern rising visually the monarchy . i think visually the monarchy. i think it reminds people that they truly do live a life of service and they're ultimate objective is to fight for the people and to and to elevate causes that are important to them. and i actually think that this might be a good move. i hope people aren't mad at me, but i agree with it. kinsey schofield love him or , hate him. the trump him or, hate him. the trump comeback is on. oh, my gosh. okay let me look at these statistics. really quick. this is surprising because they

harvard just released poll where it says trump has a 48% approval rating for potential for that are planning on voting gop in the primaries with iran just sanders coming in at only 28. now, as you know, desantis has aggressively been eating up some of those trump supporters. i really thought desantis was the way i'm incredibly surprised by this harvard poll. it makes me a little nervous for the primaries . and, you know, i maybe all of the stuff on with joe biden classified documents being found in garages that you know hunter biden parties then maybe that is helping trump's cause maybe are looking at him going oh i guess he wasn't so bad but i incredibly surprised by the numbers mark yes, indeed. i mean , look, clearly there's a lot of support for trump the base within the hardcore realm the republican movement . but surely republican movement. but surely trump is too divisive of a

figure to ever win the popular vote again. isn't isn't desantis surely the future for that party? although we've just lost line to lovely kinsey, we'll try to re—establish it. full disclosure , i'm a massive fan of disclosure, i'm a massive fan of ron desantis because he's the governor of florida and i think he showed amazing leadership and amazing political during the pandemic when rejected lockdown and mask mandates and mandates. and i he'd be the perfect man to lead america. i think he would beat joe biden into a cocked hat. but there you go. apparently, desantis is not quite doing it for the republican , thanks to kinsey republican, thanks to kinsey schofield . look forward to schofield. look forward to catching up with kinsey in a week's time. i'm really sorry that we've lost the line, but of course you can have too much of a good thing. look, lots to come very excited about my take at ten it's of course my monologue it's all about a top professor who has said you shouldn't bring

cake into the office and now i'm all for tackling but let me be after a week of advice on how much we are allowed to drink when we can bring cake into the office. all these the nanny state is out of control. so that's my take your ten monologues in just a few minutes time, i'm going to be sparking quite a debate. i'd love to know your views on that market. .uk plus my panel return and papers at the earlier time oh 1020. that's right 1020 right through until 11 and we'll be joined by sam ashworth hayes from telegraph to help us digest some big headlines, including the future of the tory party chairman , nadhim zahawi. i think chairman, nadhim zahawi. i think should stay, but what do you reckon? market gb news .uk my take it next go anywhere .

we live on the national tell and radio airwaves . we're online as radio airwaves. we're online as well, broadcasting to the world. it is 10:00 and this is mark dolan's night in my take it ten and just a moment i'll be telling you why can have your cake and eat it it's my view the nanny state is of control. find out why shortly in the news agenda with my panel. out why shortly in the news agenda with my panel . as sex agenda with my panel. as sex workers invaded . davos to workers invaded. davos to service the elites. have we normalised across the tution? plus, what's the best way to ask your boss for a pay rise? we've got some top tips. and tomorrow's sunday at exactly 1020, 10 minutes earlier than everyone else, right through until 11, a cracking hour to come, let me tell you. but first, the headlines with the cracking. tatiana sanchez

sanchez. cracking. tatiana sanchez sanchez . mark, thank you very sanchez. mark, thank you very much . this is the latest from much. this is the latest from the gb newsroom former chancellor, nadhim zahawi has sought to address questions over tax affairs. that's following . tax affairs. that's following. he paid a penalty as part of a multi—million pound tax settlement. in a statement the conservative party chairman said the hmrc accepted he made a careless but not deliberate error in relation to the sale of shares in yougov. that's the polling company he founded. mr. zahawi has been under pressure following claims he tried to avoid paying tax and labour have said his position untenable . the said his position untenable. the prime minister is a renewed wave of criticism from employees, with labour describing him as a total liability . that's after he total liability. that's after he was fined by police for a second time. rishi sunak has apologised for not wearing seatbelt whilst filming a media clip in the back of a moving. earlier this week,

the prime was also fined last for breaking lockdown restrictions in 2020. shadow financial secretary james murray says mr. sunak lost control. just when you thought the conservatives get any more ridiculous rishi sunak shows he can't even fasten his own . and i can't even fasten his own. and i think this speaks . this speaks think this speaks. this speaks volumes about the fact that the prime minister is not is not in control compact. keir starmer with rishi sunak keir starmer been at the world economic forum this week promoting the uk , this week promoting the uk, promoting a plan for economic growth in rishi sunak can't design seat belt. i think people will make their own judgement about who's been sleeping country . but deputy prime country. but deputy prime minister dominic has defended mr. sunak . minister dominic has defended mr. sunak. he's a human being who made a mistake. mr. sunak. he's a human being who made a mistake . the prime who made a mistake. the prime put his hand straight up. it was a mistake. he's apologised for. it takes responsibility for it. he hasn't actually gone down that path of blaming anyone

else. he's taken responsibility for it. he'll pay the fine. he's human. well, as an incredibly busy politician, the prime minister got a frantic, hectic schedule. but he's made it clear . there's no excuses . the . there's no excuses. the founder of the bus firms stagecoach, dame and cloak has strongly disputed what she calls malicious allegations made against her after she was charged with human trafficking offences. police scotland says three other people understood be members of her family were also charged on thursday in connection alleged immigration offences. ms. cloak denies all the allegations made against her and her family. the allegations made against her and her family . police have been and her family. police have been given more time to question a man who was arrested on suspicion of a terror offence at a hospital in leeds. the 27 year old man is being held and interviewed by police west yorkshire. he was allegedly seen with a suspected firearm and a suspicious package at st james's hospitals wing yesterday morning

. the government is setting up a £5 million fund to help encourage young people to take up sport instead of turning to crime. more than 200 sports, charities and organisations in england and wales will benefit after bidding for the money last . the ministry of justice bidders were marked on their track of helping kids at risk of anti—social behaviour to stay out of trouble . tv online and out of trouble. tv online and rugby plus radio this is gb news. now it's back to mark dolan tonight . dolan tonight. my thanks to tatiana who returns in an hour's welcome to mark dolan tonight big stories big guests always big opinions in the news agenda with my panel as workers invade davos to service the elite . have we normalised the elite. have we normalised and crossed the tution? should we toughen up rules around this

behaviour ? plus, what's the best behaviour? plus, what's the best way to ask your boss for a pay rise ? we've also got tomorrow's rise? we've also got tomorrow's papers . it's rise? we've also got tomorrow's papers. it's sunday's rise? we've also got tomorrow's papers . it's sunday's papers. papers. it's sunday's papers. some amazing coming in as we speak. some amazing coming in as we speak . and we get those speak. and we get those headunes speak. and we get those headlines 10 minutes earlier than everyone else at 1020. and i'll be by journalist sam ashworth. hayes with full panel reaction with until 11 reacting to the big stories of the day. singer songwriter eurovision winner jay aston. we've singer songwriter eurovision winnerjay aston. we've also got broadcaster and the uk director of the common sense what's not to like emma webb. and last but not least, a man of substance a man of courage, a man of conviction blimey. he should be the prime minister. sars hero and bestselling author bill campion . lots to come for busy campion. lots to come for busy houn campion. lots to come for busy hour. but first my take . a ten

hour. but first my take. a ten a. turns out you can't have your cake and eat it. a. turns out you can't have your cake and eat it . the food cake and eat it. the food standards agency chairwoman, professor susan jebb has advised against people bringing cake into . the office regularly into. the office regularly comparing it to passive smoke . comparing it to passive smoke. that's right. she's compared to passive smoking . she said if passive smoking. she said if nobody brought cakes the office. i personally would not eat cakes . in an interview with the times newspaper and speaking in a personal capacity t, she said that workers should stop testing the willpower colleagues. now, given that the pandemic is largely behind us, i thought we'd heard last of these joyless who see all human activity as , a who see all human activity as, a health and safety risk . and i'll health and safety risk. and i'll tell you what is dangerous in my view. public health measures forced upon us by the so—called experts in the last few years. lockdowns for example, which have created a mental health

crisis, have added to obesity and left us with an nhs waiting list of 7 million people and a profound , profoundly damaged profound, profoundly damaged economy . that doesn't sound very economy. that doesn't sound very healthy to me. now, as luck have it, i understand where this professor is coming from . she's professor is coming from. she's a good egg, no pun intended . and a good egg, no pun intended. and she's only made these comments because she is rightly worried about the link between obese city and a whole range of other illnesses. if you're overweight , it opens the door to type diabetes, heart disease problems, joint issues , problems, joint issues, depression, dementia and most worryingly, cancer . so i've got worryingly, cancer. so i've got no problem with the message or the messenger but the method is what worries me because as with covid measures like mask mandates or vaccine tyranny , a mandates or vaccine tyranny, a request, a polite suggestion, all too often becomes a dictate and in order . well, i worry it's

and in order. well, i worry it's going to become the same with food and drink following not just this cake in the office story we're hearing public guidance on, how many alcoholic dnnks guidance on, how many alcoholic drinks we can have a week. medics in canada now say two points every seven days. yikes again, i think it's fine to talk about the health risks of , booze about the health risks of, booze and give the public the facts. no problem , but let us decide . no problem, but let us decide. following two and a half years of medical microbe management. it's time for us to dictate what goes into body, not the. we must have not instruction . let me have not instruction. let me offer some informal action of my own when it comes to weight. i lost three stone back in 2018 by eliminating for me to say eliminating for me to say eliminating call. i got rid of bread rice, pasta, potatoes , bread rice, pasta, potatoes, sugar and beer. admittedly all the nice stuff i followed nhs,

gp, dr. unwin and the brilliant tv medic michael mosley . his tv medic michael mosley. his latest book, the fast 800 quito, is out now , worked for me, has is out now, worked for me, has worked for lots of people. if you're going to change your diet, do consult your doctor . diet, do consult your doctor. but fundamentally, i believe if we give the public information , we give the public information, they will take better health choices. but it's information, not instruction . if you decide not instruction. if you decide to drink every day, smoke 20 cigarettes and be such regular at mcdonald's that they know you by your first name, then good luck to you. it is your human rights to look after your body or to abuse it. ideally you will opt for health, but life is short to and we've got to enjoy ourselves while we're here. which is why a few points at the weekend or a slice of chocolate cake in the office to celebrate clare's 30th is important to post—covid the nanny state has gone into overdrive . but the

gone into overdrive. but the nanny state can now off and those to take away cake from office can shove it in their cake hole . what's your view? cake hole. what's your view? mark@gbnews.uk. i'll get to your emails shortly, but reacting to my take at ten and a to tomorrow's sunday papers which are coming in as speak, we've got to sing a writer and eurovision winner jay aston broadcaster and the uk director of the common sense society , of the common sense society, emma webb and sase hero , best emma webb and sase hero, best selling author phil campion. phil, let me ask you about this cake in the office, yes or no? absolutely no. if you don't if you can't eat what you want, if you can't eat what you want, if you can't eat what you want, if you can't drink what you want, you can't drink what you want, you don't have to live any longer. it'sjust you don't have to live any longer. it's just going to seem like it . that's exactly . i mean, like it. that's exactly. i mean, just and you are of the pop star in box fizz. you know about pleasure of the mind, body and

soul. pleasure of the mind, body and soul . do you worry about the soul. do you worry about the nanny state? do you worry about these professors micromanage doing our lives? i think it's ridiculous . doing our lives? i think it's ridiculous. it's cake doing our lives? i think it's ridiculous . it's cake gates, ridiculous. it's cake gates, isn't it really . ridiculous. it's cake gates, isn't it really. i think ridiculous. it's cake gates, isn't it really . i think they'll isn't it really. i think they'll be cancelling the caterpillar next. really? i think it's important if you've got someone having a birthday think it's a lovely thing to bring in the cake and enjoy it. you can make a yourself if you want to die. you can say sorry, i have a drink, but i won't be having the cake. you can choose and i think it's madness . cake. you can choose and i think it's madness. emma webb cake. you can choose and i think it's madness . emma webb look it's madness. emma webb look you're a bit of a libertarian , you're a bit of a libertarian, aren't you? you like people to their lives as they so wish . their lives as they so wish. can't imagine you're loving this story. i wouldn't call myself a libertarian , but i do love libertarian, but i do love freedom. and mark, i am so sick of this safety ism. it's everywhere . you called it nanny everywhere. you called it nanny state. i think that's exactly what this is . whatever happened what this is. whatever happened to individual responsibility? people are constantly blaming everything and everyone outside of themselves for their situations. these days. and one gp, i think, made a very good

point in response to this, which is that you people can decide whether or not they want to eat that cake themselves. fundamental if you want to look after your health, you have to have and that have some discipline and that that individual that requires individual responsibility. that's not something come outside something that can come outside from of yourself . and if from outside of yourself. and if somebody to choose you somebody wants to choose as you to smoke two packets of cigarettes a day to have a bit of cake once in a while, a person's body is their own to do with what they will. and i think people need personal people need take personal responsibility the right responsibility to the right decisions. and of course , we decisions. and of course, we should give them information in order that and help people order to do that and help people have a better diet. but the way that isn't by being that you do that isn't by being dictated by the government or dictated to by the government or by your workplace. banning cake . it'sjust by your workplace. banning cake . it's just this ridiculous . i . it's just this ridiculous. i mean, what world we live in. i mean, what world we live in. i mean, we you know, i've been quoting professor jebb, who i've quoting professorjebb, who i've said is a good egg. she's worried about obesity . i think worried about obesity. i think she's right to be worried about obesity. our job to worry about obesity. our job to worry about obesity. she's the chair of the food standards agency . so if we

food standards agency. so if we can getif food standards agency. so if we can get if can get, you know, the national waistline a little bit, it's a great option. but it's all about how we do it. she said that it is about human responsibility . well, but she responsibility. well, but she just said it's easier if there isn't cake . hasn't she got isn't cake. hasn't she got a point, however? no, it's not up to her. you can choose whether you eat that cake or not. and the idea of being considerate to other people's willpower , i other people's willpower, i think it's just this is just silly. i mean, people don't frankly want to have a fruit platter in the office when it's somebody's birthday they want to have a little bit of cake. let enjoy their lives. this is like the old the old temperance movement is puritanical, wanting to strip all of fun and happiness out of everybody's and to dictate to them how they should be living. i think we should be living. i think we should just leave people alone. let them make their own decisions. however, phil, let them make their own decisions. however, phil , there decisions. however, phil, there is in the office , is pressure in the office, sometimes peer pressure, to be part of the cake ceremony . you

part of the cake ceremony. you know, my i mean i'm already out. i mean, that cake ceremony , i mean, that cake ceremony, that's a peer pressure. anybody. i mean, i'm eating cake. i don't care. i mean, i like i come on a diet, but if there's some people are on a diet and say, oh my god, it's debbie's leaving date she's been at the company for 60 years have a slice years you're not to have a slice of coal in the catsup. you become the bad person. think become the bad person. i think that's that is what. susan that's what that is what. susan jebbis that's what that is what. susan jebb is talking about. peer pressure and peer pressure is that we right off against self—discipline. if you are on a serious if do want to look serious if you do want to look after yourself only it's after yourself only because it's as that, that is your as simple as that, that is your dinner table. understand they'll be willing to spend . dinner table. understand they'll be willing to spend. i'm trying to the jab meister here to defend the jab meister here because the other issue is, is and she talked about willpower . and she talked about willpower. you all have been around , you you all have been around, you know, in the world of pop , know, in the world of pop, booze, drugs sex. and it's tempting . it's nearby, isn't it tempting. it's nearby, isn't it 7 tempting. it's nearby, isn't it ? i think we've been offered a few boxes over the years. i dnnk few boxes over the years. i drink much. and actually since i

had surgery, i'm not meant to dnnk had surgery, i'm not meant to drink at all. and i just sort of have the tiniest sip i make it look like you know i've joined in and i haven't been rude and i've just put the glass down so you can choose and you can fake it all right you can have your cake and eat it cake in the office or no. has the nanny state gone mad? let me know your thoughts. market gb news dot uk . we have got the papers next hot off. the press will be in the company of the telegraph's sam ashworth . can't wait. sam ashworth. can't wait. sizzling .

well big reaction to my take at monologue. connor in all digital team is busy crafting it into a video which you can catch up on catch up on later on twitter at gb news. .uk let's look at some of your emails mark@gbnews.uk. i

don't understand how anyone from labour party can criticise not being sahal. we know it's a fascinating nottingham's the hallway former chancellor the current chairman of , the tory current chairman of, the tory party in water with hmrc . we're party in water with hmrc. we're told he's paid a fine and also a seven figure sum owed to hmrc. it's been classified as an oversight , a it's been classified as an oversight, a mistake. should he go this ? who is it? who's go this? who is it? who's written this ? effiong has said written this? effiong has said mark, i don't understand how. anyone from the labour party can criticise zardari, zahawi for mistake his employed accountants did when the leader of their policy didn't check his own employees in relation to jemmy savile , judy says . what are they savile, judy says. what are they worrying about in relation a bit of cake. this is the obesity story when encouraging people participate in sport, will make people healthier and encourage a better lifestyle. thank you for that, julie the united kingdom

has always been a nanny state says little hound. the british fails european law. sorry the british government follows european. still, that is the icing on the cake. they stole our cherry. and last but not least, karen, in boston, how are you tonight? karen? karen says we should all enjoy our food and dnnk we should all enjoy our food and drink but in moderation and with responsible tea. when we become ill costs the nhs . so we ill, it costs the nhs. so we need to think about everyone who needs to use nhs funds and not just my body, my choice . karen, just my body, my choice. karen, thank you for balancing that debate. it's all about opinions . mark dolan tonight the home of free. it's time now for papers. hot off the press and i've got a sting for that, greg. come on then. sting for that, greg. come on then . it's money. no object . then. it's money. no object. mark dolan tonight. let me tell you. well done to greg to and alistair, who are performing beyond their talents tonight , beyond their talents tonight, let me tell you. so let's have a

look at tomorrow's papers. we've got all of them at 1030. but first of all, the title of the observer. now what you want. would you want the first greg telegraph. telegraph first. there the there you go. we it the telegraph. refugees and nhs at heart. diverse coronation . the heart. diverse coronation. the king will celebrate faces voices of modern britain in three days of modern britain in three days of spectre . i was careless over of spectre. i was careless over tax affairs, says nadhim zahawi and sunak pledges blue light reform will fix broken public services . let's look at the services. let's look at the observer . so how he fights for observer. so how he fights for his political after admitting tax error . the former chancellor tax error. the former chancellor current tory party chairman, is battling to his political career after he finally to reaching a tax settlement with hmrc following error over a controversial multi—million pound shareholding in the polling company yougov . a polling company yougov. a carefully worded statement, zahawi appeared confirm that hmrc had carried out an investigation into his financial affairs whilst . he was serving

affairs whilst. he was serving as chancellor and said that the tax authorities had concluded he'd made a careless but not deliberate error so that i could focus on my life as a public servant, i chose settle the matter and pay what said was due, which was the right thing to do. tax expert said the statement was a tacit that zahawi paid a penalty also revealed child migrants kidnapped from a hotel dozens of asylum seeking children have been kidnapped by traffickers from a brighton hotel run by the home office in a pattern apparently being repeated across south coast. according to a observer investigation. i've got to say, journalism there of the finest and highest order , finest and highest order, martin, end up the observer. well, there you go. we've got papers at 1030, but let's welcome for reaction to what you just heard, the telegraph's sam ashworth hayes . sam, great to ashworth hayes. sam, great to have you on the program. you've

put the paper to bed and let's have a look at story. nadhim zahawi i think that's the big story from . tomorrow's papers story from. tomorrow's papers does survive this . it's does survive this. it's obviously it was always it's never a good sign when you've when you take me through the back to focus on the work in politics, you have these actions that end up on the front page of the paper and it's not a good sign that labour are doubling down not speaking to evidence of these must be. the liberal democrats asking the pm's ethics adviser to conduct an investigation and dominic raab is giving some sort of very low support, say he hopes it will still be a flourish happening at the moment. sam, sam, i was going to interrupt you for a second because i believe there might a slight issue with the line and so what my team will do is just a make line and so what my team will do isjust a make sure line and so what my team will do is just a make sure that we can hear you little more clearly, hear you a little more clearly, not only . are watching in not only. are you watching in your thousands on terrestrial ? your thousands on terrestrial? many of you are on dab . plus i'm

many of you are on dab. plus i'm constantly meeting radio listeners. gb news fastest growing speech radio station in the country . all thanks to you the country. all thanks to you so you can gb news, but you can hearit so you can gb news, but you can hear it as well. of course, we've got viewers site issues as well who have always been to the output and we value you just as much and have got to put up with my controversial hairstyle or ties and a couple of other stories i'd like to draw your attention to. germany this is an absolute scandal that is playing out in real time. absolute scandal that is playing out in real time . the germans out in real time. the germans all to allow tanks to sent to ukraine in the battle against vladimir putin. and this has caused consternation within the european union. yes, folks , european union. yes, folks, there's trouble in paradise. even verhofstadt, who's one of the most sort of iconic europhile figures on the continent , europhile figures on the continent, has been complaining

about the germans and he's furious. so the halos slept for the european project. given the fact that the leaders of europe germany will not play when it comes to tackling vladimir putin. now why have they pushed back on this is it because they are so dependent on vladimir putin's oil and gas now? i believe we've reconnected to some ash with haze and, some. i'm really sorry about that. it has our time, but we'll get you very, very shortly for a appearance . yes. so it's appearance. yes. so it's a hallway this is a dilemma for rishi sunak, isn't it how to handle this scandal. i mean , handle this scandal. i mean, it's exactly the sort of thing he doesn't want. right and i do apologise to the she's on my end.the apologise to the she's on my end. the wi—fi is not very good here. but as you as you sunak has been sort of trying to reassemble this image of the except it is being sort of competent and steady and sort the drama free. and that was his

his pitch almost after sort of the 44 days of this truss. and now he's got this all over the front is going to be seeds of questions. he doesn't want to deal with it. this seems deal with it. so this seems a drama he doesn't want deal drama he doesn't want to deal with. i just don't see it with. and i just don't see it going very near future, going in the very near future, particularly as a point when i'm unfortunately, fiscal matters are heavy, the public the are so heavy, the public so the minds i sam with the minds anyway i sam with the clock against does the hallway survive this because he's highly regarded he's got an amazing light story came from nothing i've interviewed him a couple of times he's a real gentle he's made a big mistake do you think he'll still be the tory party chairman this time next week . chairman this time next week. i wouldn't want to venture into predictions but he's he's a very talented man. so maybe . yeah, talented man. so maybe. yeah, i suppose he may step down, but then come back on a future occasion. perhaps that's the fudge, the will go for sam .

fudge, the will go for sam. we'll catch up with you very , we'll catch up with you very, very soon. thank you forjoining very soon. thank you for joining us, sam. he's from the telegraph , but we've got the papers in full. next, don't go anywhere .

it's exactly 1030. so let's go through all of tomorrow's sunday papers. hot off the press. and we start with the times and they lead with the sunday. it's like the world war. if we kill them, they are just replaced as ukraine fights from trenches waves of russian troops are routinely over the top to. their deaths a no frills coronation. it'll 2 hours with 3000 people. remember, no tights as well. what a terrible waste . got an what a terrible waste. got an excellent pair of pins. has all

king. he's got a king. hair, legs. let me you how about illegal immigrants face of maids hostile environments and bbc boss helped arrange boris johnson's boss helped arrange boris johnson' s £800,000 loan in johnson's £800,000 loan in downing street's the independent over the moon. buzz aldrin marries at 93. that was a talking point in the people's hour, talking point in the people's hour , which is, of course, from hour, which is, of course, from eight till nine every saturday. tax storm tory chairman fights to save his job but nadhim zahawi today that tax chiefs he'd made a careless rather than deliberate as he settled his tax dispute with a multi—million pound settlement . will he pound settlement. will he survive ? i'll be asking my panel survive? i'll be asking my panel sunday. king wants coronation to bnng sunday. king wants coronation to bring joy. king charles, a big weekend of celebration will lift and unite the nation in tough times . the and unite the nation in tough times. the sun now and unite the nation in tough times . the sun now coronation times. the sun now coronation ditched charles to drop his

britches . i think we'll ditched charles to drop his britches. i think we'll find that from papers . so that's a that from papers. so that's a slight to what can i say ? slight to what can i say? parallel thinking. we've got the sun on sunday and it's new legal move andrew plots a virginia u—turn coronation traits well we'll talk about prince andrew is there a way back the randy andy sun mirror now . and harry andy sun mirror now. and harry spun tale over tales spin new spare lie revealed his flight character says cockpit heroics dramatised for effect and last but not least the now the daily star sunday it's the way the cookie crumbles dunking biscuit bits in mugs of tea could be a thing of the past as youngsters turn to savoury snacks like sir moses to enjoy with a brew the world's gone mad crumbs is all i

would say to that look i'll get your reaction on emails shortly, but get the view now of my with me in the studio we have jay we have of course lovely emma webb and bill campion. have of course lovely emma webb and bill campion . so let's have and bill campion. so let's have and bill campion. so let's have a look at some of these big stories and it's the only show in town. emma webb we've touched on it earlier. nadhim zahawi the chairman of the tory party, the million dollar question , does he million dollar question, does he survive the week or the day? i agree with sam ashworth as he just had , reviewing the papers just had, reviewing the papers i think that anybody would be unwise to make a prediction because there are arguments in favour of firing him as well as in favour of not firing him. as i was saying earlier, i think that we need to have a political atmosphere that isn't completely beholden to . these sorts of beholden to. these sorts of forces that get kicked up by the press. on the other hand, maybe

rishi will decide that actually, unlike boris as you were saying, he needs to make a strong show of his his own power over cabinet and maybe he'll decide that in in favour of that chancesin that in in favour of that chances in the next election that it would be a good idea to get rid of. zahawi i wouldn't like to make a prediction, but my view is that he on balance, shouldn't fire him. illegal immigrant , shouldn't fire him. illegal immigrant, let's say the sunday times fell campion face of may's hostile environment people that shouldn't be here who've outstayed their visas will be sent straight home. your reaction. i feel i go i mean if they've got no no reason to be here, if got, you know, all a string lost paperwork, if you can't prove while you're here, if you've got no genuine reason, then he doesn't have to say they're we're trying to get was trying to get telling tyranny you know if you go go back to your country of origin you you'll be possibly attacked in pubuc.

you'll be possibly attacked in public . most you'll be possibly attacked in public. most of them come from the country of origin from the country of origin must from come france . they've raised come from france. they've raised their first say frontier and have pushed way way have pushed their way the way along is trying to along there as it is trying to get we're trying to get £10 of obviously into a £2 bag, only, you know, i mean, so it's not fair. it. so the more we fair. it is it. so the more we can get rid of the more we can underwrite on the scoring, move down the line, better at the down the line, the better at the well. i mean, we heard well. yes. i mean, we heard about that expression the about that expression from the home office. hostile environment. and actually it was a by a labour home a term coined by a labour home secretary in the nineties, john reed's . so it's been a policy reed's. so it's been a policy for decades now. is it just wrong term or do we create hostile environment mweb for people shouldn't be here . i people shouldn't be here. i think we need to create an environment that is hostile to illegal immigration because it's illegal immigration because it's illegal and it shouldn't be happening . one of the reasons happening. one of the reasons why we need have a good orderly immigration system is that we immigration system is so that we can those people who can prioritise those people who actually be here. actually really need to be here. people genuine asylum people who are genuine asylum seekers translators seekers like, the translators who us in afghanistan who helped us in afghanistan when we needed bring people when we needed to bring people over but then have a

over here. but then we have a system completely clogged over here. but then we have a sys byn completely clogged over here. but then we have a sys byn co migrants clogged over here. but then we have a sys byn co migrants from |ed over here. but then we have a sys byn co migrants from ad up by economic migrants from a safe like france system safe country like france system is frankly absurd. and so, yeah, of course we need to be absolutely tough on. and if that is described as a hostile environment, then yes, that's what we need. do you have thoughts on this, jane? because mean many would argue that it makes racist country . makes britain a racist country. you know, you're hounding people down. for their down. you're asking for their papers you're them . papers and you're sending them. well, they're illegal well, i think they're illegal immigrants and they have no right be and they should be right to be and they should be sent home. you know, they have they from france or they come from france or wherever . they're being checked wherever. they're being checked out and. clearly, they tick the box says you shouldn't be here because they haven't got the right paperwork or whatever . so, right paperwork or whatever. so, no, i absolutely think they need to go back because all we're going to end up is an awful lot more and there's all this illegal stuff where people are charging 18, illegal stuff where people are charging 18 , £20,000 to a come charging 18, £20,000 to a come across in a movie as a fake truck driver or all these boats with children, they're in the sea. i mean, it's and you just

wonder how why been so broken for so long? what why can't they sort this problem out ? indeed. sort this problem out? indeed. so and we saw that story in the observer , a very shocking story observer, a very shocking story about refugee , asylum seeking about refugee, asylum seeking children being kidnapped from a brighton hotel, which, according to an exclusive report by, the observer is happening across the country . that's just horrendous. country. that's just horrendous. it's absolutely horrendous . it's absolutely horrendous. what's happening to these kids where they going? how is it happening that that that they're allowed to go out and be taken away? they should be being looked after. how possible looked after. how is it possible that that's allowed to happen ? that that's allowed to happen? it's just how is the security so bad in the accommodation that it could happen in the first place, like indeed. so how much of like oh, indeed. so how much of an issue. do you think this will be at the next election? emma i think the issue i think it's the critical for the conservative party partly the idea of taking back control over brexit, the

two outstanding issues that need to be faced , the northern to be faced, the northern ireland protocol, which is obviously big issue, particularly for voters in northern. but the issue getting control of our borders is really significant. poll poll after poll showing that the british want to deal with this problem , want to deal with this problem, need the government to get it in hand. need the government to get it in hand . and this government is hand. and this government is showing they are still incapable doing so because of all sorts of strenuous circumstances. but also, i think there's just simply a lack of political will. and obviously it's a very difficult situation solve. difficult situation to solve. and there been people who have volunteered , who have sincerely volunteered, who have sincerely wanted try and resolve this. i think suella braverman sincerely wants to solve this problem , but wants to solve this problem, but fundamentally , i think this is fundamentally, i think this is this has been an ongoing problem for a very long there are other issues that will determine their success at the next election. but i think this is a big it it certainly be a dominant a dominant factor. i'm sure you're right about that . can we talk

right about that. can we talk about the king's coronation? a lot of debate about what he may or may not be wearing, but it's a no frills coronation to ours with 3000 people just asked , with 3000 people just asked, then do you think that a budget is the way to go? way to go? well i think if you if you look at what happened when we with the queen's i very proud that they gave us such a great send—off and i think with the new king, i think give him all the pomp ceremony we can will be great because i think people will actually enjoy watching it. i think we need a lift at the moment. i know you can argue you're spending money on it. however, i think actually a lot of money back into country. and though people will flood to see this and, i think he deserves it if he want to wear his breaches. i think that his decision. yes, i think that his decision. yes, i mean, of course , you famously, i mean, of course, you famously, you know, on a big international stage, you won eurovision with making a up. yes. it was that

81. 81, and it's coming back to the uk . i 81. 81, and it's coming back to the uk. i mean, 81. 81, and it's coming back to the uk . i mean, obviously we the uk. i mean, obviously we didn't win. we came second. yeah, but i was in liverpool the other day with sheryl, we were promoting so we will be there andifs promoting so we will be there and it's great that liverpool and it's great that liverpool and may the 13th will be the guest of honour. and i just remember that iconic performance that one year won you the title do you think charles during the coronation halfway through should he rip his kilt off . i should he rip his kilt off. i think he might get a few brownie points to that reveal reveal what the days may be like . what the days may be like. charles but i mean, to it go down the showbiz route because that's your background feel i would have thought your as a former military veteran that actually pomp and ceremony is important part of really why you serve this tradition it does the tradition displays what we're about from top to bottom. the fact he was towards uniform i want to see him wear his uniform you know he's a is the parachute

regiment. is colonel in chief. yeah and if he wants to wear his uniform, he's the king stick your trousers on, son. wear your with face. thank you. with a silk face. thank you. combination of both. i want to. i us to. do you want. it's i want us to. do you want. it's what's you. do you what's underneath you. do you want, know, bells want, you know, bells and whistles at the coronation? i want whistles. at the want bells and whistles. at the same have be same time, you have to be slightly sensitive. the fact that some people already at the moment can't go moment did mean. so you can't go overboard. take the overboard. you can't take the mickey, because a lot people mickey, because a lot of people say just heard how many say you've just heard how many people mean, people are on 42. i mean, i can't even my kids around the same table. got to be same table. so you've got to be a little bit sensitive to that, will you watch it, by the way? will you there? what will you be down there? what goes? yeah, i'll be on it. goes? yeah, yeah, i'll be on it. i'll over. we'll see. i'll be all over. we'll see. well, well, hope you'll be well, well, i hope you'll be part gb news this coverage. part of gb news this coverage. i hope so, too. there you go. well there go. do you think there you go. what do you think about the coronation does it matter? is it important? he's already. i think already. why bother? i think it's important. and to it's so important. and i want to see full, know, during see the full, you know, during the. your pardon? i know. the. beg your pardon? i know. now about the king family. i would like to see the whole shebang think during

shebang i think during during the had the last the when we had the last coronation and we still had rationing. we need rationing. yeah i think we need to the whole thing bells to have the whole thing bells and whistles, were and whistles, as you were saying. i think it's a shame that the that he's not to wear the traditional regalia . i do think traditional regalia. i do think we should scale back at we should scale this back at all. think it's important for all. i think it's important for people alive people because most people alive haven't a coronation in haven't seen a coronation in their lifetime it's really important for the country . it's important for the country. it's important for the country. it's important is in just in terms of the as we saw when the when the queen the way that that that those ceremonies and traditions people together. this is our inheritance and this is a matter of national pride. so i think it's absolutely right that we don't skimp at all on it. i think we go the whole hog and i think we go the whole hog and i think we go the whole hog and i think we should have all of the p°mp think we should have all of the pomp and pageantry and it's important for the future of the monarchy in terms of confidence, but it's also in terms of the confidence this. what do confidence of this. and what do we like on the world stage? we look like on the world stage? if we skimp and save on if we if we skimp and save on the coronation our king and you want to see the whole thing? i want to see the whole thing? i want see the whole thing. want to see the whole thing. mark colour , in colour, in

mark in colour, in colour, in white tie definition . quick, white tie definition. quick, quick, quick. why prince harry? the sunday mirror newspaper lie revealed harry spun a tale of a tailspin. his flight instructor says cockpit heroics were dramatised for effect harry in a chopper with instructor bouley your reaction to this story and just generally fill reaction to some of the remarks that harry has made about military past in his book and elsewhere. i've still gone down this road that he's got some major on board and they do some serious someone to put his arm around him and say, come on, step out of the limelight for 5 minutes. you know some of the stuff he's been saying. the stuff is in saying. some of the stuff is in spouting about, know is spouting off about, you know is not in keeping with how not is not in keeping with how someone of his stature should be behaving. opinion. okay. and behaving. my opinion. okay. and so something so obviously something wrong. there's there , there's a problem there, whatever be . i think whatever that might be. i think whatever that might be. i think what he should have done was stepped out of way for 5 minutes

at a at a sort of come to jesus with himself and then decided i was to move about it. but he hasn't. he's gone in absolutely first. claimed first. first, he's claimed this claim about this claim that spouting about this about he slow about the other, he to slow down. needed needed big down. he needed he needed big brother to put his arm around him he his platoon him or he needed his platoon sergeant on, son. as sergeant to go. come on, son. as i sit this have a cuppa and i sit down this have a cuppa and let's see what's really going on. it's, you know, i mean, that's what he needed that level of your military of detail about your military past relation past glamorising it in relation to instructor that's to your instructor that's not the not the the done thing. that's not the code. it's not really. listen, you've with the mental health thing i encourage to talk about all that sort of stuff, but it's not of stuff you need not sort of stuff that you need to about in public. so with to talk about in public. so with the thing, you the mental health thing, you know your psychiatrist, know with your psychiatrist, we talked friend, talked with your best friend, would dog? do you? would you miss his dog? do you? if want to. if you want to if you want to. if you want to get off your chest, get any chest, put, then subsequently throw netflix write chest, put, then subsequently thook netflix write chest, put, then subsequently thook about netflix write chest, put, then subsequently thook about it.etflix write chest, put, then subsequently thook about it. very write chest, put, then subsequently thook about it. very good.vrite chest, put, then subsequently thook about it. very good. very a book about it. very good. very good, very. i don't call his wife a dog. that's bit harsh. now we've got lots more now careful, we've got lots more to come we've got the to come next up, we've got the observer and the telegraph and

we'll discuss. we we'll discuss. have we normalised shortly .

the more papers coming in, we've got the sunday telegraph now . got the sunday telegraph now. let's have a look at what they're leading with. refugees and the nhs , the heart of and the nhs, the heart of diverse coronation . i was diverse coronation. i was careless over tax , says zaha. we careless over tax, says zaha. we and sunak pledges . blue light and sunak pledges. blue light reform will fix broken public services . the observer zaha. he services. the observer zaha. he fights for his political life after admitting tax error. a champion of the party has done a deal with the hmrc, but does he survive and revealed child migrants kidnapped from hotel truly horrific story. now let's get some more reaction. we've got of course our amazing panel tonight. we've got pop superstar jay aston . let's go commentator jay aston. let's go commentator emma webb and selling author and

military hero phil campion. it's the military hero, but he doesn't brag about it. podcasts or books or go on spotify . he's or books or go on spotify. he's the real deal now . world leaders the real deal now. world leaders and business elites have been busy at the davos summit week for more reasons than you might think. it's been reports that there's a demand for sex workers dunng there's a demand for sex workers during this of the year in the alpine resort town. so sex workers invade davos to service the elites have we normalised prostitutes , emma? yes i think prostitutes, emma? yes i think we have. all you have to do is look the way that young girls are selling their bodies on onlyfans to see how prevalent this sort thing is becoming. so l, this sort thing is becoming. so i, i don't find it particularly surprising that at an event like this you would have a lot of sex workers flocking there because . workers flocking there because. we often talk about prostitutes, but what about the people who are paying for their services .

are paying for their services. and that's the same thing with onlyfans because, the people who are those young girls to are paying those young girls to take their clothes online take their clothes off online are also , you know, that they are also, you know, that they they are implicated funding their employment industry. yeah and you know, but possibly funding something some would consider immoral. and it's strange in a society likes to think of itself as being feminist that this is something that has become so widely acceptable and commercialisation of people's bodies. so a lot of those people who would like to think of themselves as being anti capitalist or socialists who argue in favour of this, yet is ultimately the commodification of your entire being . yeah. and it's ironic being. yeah. and it's ironic that it's in davos. this is the global elites who are solving all the world's problem solving all the world's problem solving a good time, banging on about climate change. yeah. so problem sorry about intentional and therefore you know in a way it's a woke agenda isn't it? it's a

right on virtue signalling and yet at this thousands we're told of workers descending this small swiss town and they're not there for the cheese. they're not there for the chocolate shocking. it's with these sorts of, you know, the people who involved in this conference, it's always just just say as i just said, just do as i say, yeah, never mind what i do that's what you know what one one rule for the of the population in the countries they're coming from as delegates . and then there's another role for and as was saying for them and as i was saying earlier with jacinda , i've done earlier with jacinda, i've done you wants her her you know, she wants her her legacy to be one of kindness and to be remembered as being this nice, smiling leader. but at the same time behind that smile are all of these sinister, callous actions that she took to the detriment of her own population and that i think that this says lot about the character of the people who are involved in this conference. j no sense of shame this but in flux of professional

sex workers servicing the global billionaire . why no shame that billionaire. why no shame that should there be shame around this ? yeah, i think so. i was this? yeah, i think so. i was quite when i read this because i mean, i know it's a very old profession and i agree with you about what's the second young girls for tv . about what's the second young girls for tv. i just i still don't see ever speaks volumes of these people were meant to be running the world. yeah you know but virtue signalling and then you know going back to the hotel room and who knows i just think it's i'm really shocked by. yeah, i'm not shocked at all. it's unfortunately it's supply and demand. and i wouldn't be going there if i knew they weren't going to get work. so know i've seen this all over the world. i've seen it. i've seen in places like kabul you never expect to see it there. i've seen in iraq, i've seen all over place you've a high place where you've got a high influx people who've got influx of, people who've got money and people that haven't, they'll buying paying for they'll be buying and paying for sex be away from

sex and they'll be away from home whatever reason home for whatever reason and have excuses built up have their own excuses built up in heads. but they will in their heads. but they will still and so that still pay for sex. and so that doesn't surprise all. the doesn't surprise me at all. the only thing that will is the price. important as well price. what's important as well as in this report, as the in this in this report, one of the women that she one of the women says that she was to have intercourse was forced to have intercourse with by her boss. i presume pimp and so actually in addition to the whatever the supply and demand the willing exchange of goodsis demand the willing exchange of goods is under these circumstances there are there is also this element of exploitation . yes. people are exploitation. yes. people are obviously with selves in with people of trafficked . yeah. with people of trafficked. yeah. with that with that supply demand comes all the other stuff that goes with, you know, people being forced into , stuff they being forced into, stuff they don't want to do, people being trafficked, people being drug, people older people being well, yeah, older hong and, underbelly of hong kong and, the underbelly of all of stuff. this all that sort of stuff. this happens, all follow that happens, will all follow that and that's what makes it even so even that the people that even worse that the people that supposed all the supposed to be making all the big around planet big decisions around the planet are it . yes, indeed. are supporting it. yes, indeed.

outrageous . quick outrageous hypocrisy. quick word. there's been an internet with a young woman who is desperate for a pay rise and she received thousands responses onune received thousands responses online in terms of how best to ask the boss for more . so, phil, ask the boss for more. so, phil, i actually thought so. this actually goes against the grain because if this was the believed is true if what we believe is true now right that's how i'll get my promotions it's doughnuts i'll bring them in the i'm going to give up so mad you know i've just heard for the produce that we've doubled your money tonight right. okay it works. i mean that's what's going on among donors. and so they want to show you was open mind if i do. i said absolutely please. yeah yeah. get in there. what do you mean, tell you how your pay rise is there. is there a trick? ask yeah. yeah yeah. a proof. what? you've why you deserve it . have you've why you deserve it. have you had any battles professionally to get your money sorted out ? well, actually, yes, sorted out? well, actually, yes, isuppose sorted out? well, actually, yes, i suppose you might remember we

had a law suit about the name box office. so we are now officially fees. yeah. and so about three years after we lost the ability to call ourselves the ability to call ourselves the fees . other box office. the fees. other box office. sorry for about three years, people were literally trying to have our prize for performing . have our prize for performing. right. and it's come up but it was a battle which obviously was contentious and you thought it was silly because well, we are the same . well, we're three the same. well, we're three original members for. not yeah, it's pretty good isn't it. and the other take that take that or not is not the full line up and they still that's all. me. they still take that's all. me. yeah it's just a ridiculous yeah well it's just a ridiculous situation should situation that really we should have to high court, but have gone to high court, but never yeah, became never mind. yeah, but it became a issue. how do you a financial issue. how do you get pay a financial issue. how do you get pay rise, emma? you're get a pay rise, emma? you're very persuasive. in all very persuasive. been in all department, well when. very persuasive. been in all depanpeople well when. very persuasive. been in all depanpeople are well when. very persuasive. been in all depanpeople are freelancing,en. very persuasive. been in all depanpeople are freelancing, the when people are freelancing, the problem trying to chase problem is more trying to chase up invoices that people don't want to pay. i think as a sincere, sincere advice is that the to a pay rise is to the best to get a pay rise is to why you deserve one. so if you go to boss and you say,

go to your boss and you say, i've done y and, z beyond i've done x, y and, z beyond what i was do, and therefore what i was to do, and therefore i deserve more , that that is the i deserve more, that that is the best way to make a logical case for and if you have a for it. and that if you have a have a who's being have a boss who's being particularly resistant and the pay particularly resistant and the pay rise matters a lot to you, then you just threaten then i guess you just threaten to heard has to walk, which i've heard has worked for some people, though i've never done that myself with the cost living. i mean you kind of it on a really for to of have it on a really for to say can't afford pay my say i can't afford to pay my bills feed my kids i need 10% bills or feed my kids i need 10% more. you have to explain you deserve more money. i think that's the well, look , that's the you go well, look, you're all priceless. let tell you, which is why we're not paying you, which is why we're not paying you tonight. but thank you so for us, justin . i'm you so much for us, justin. i'm a web copied . i love your work. a web copied. i love your work. please come back soon, folks i've thoroughly enjoyed your company as well. it's been a really busy night. i really, really busy night. i really, really enjoyed our big debates and the people's hour and we're back tomorrow at nine for mark dolan tonight with all your favourite elements. the big opinion, the big question. take its head in the papers. see you

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good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez in the gb newsroom labour's calling for an investigation after the bbc chairman helped boris johnson secure a loan up to £800,000 weeks before he was put forward for job. a warning the following contains flashing images the party has written to the parliamentary commissioner for standards following a report , standards following a report, sharp helped arrange a loan for the then prime minister. according to the sunday times , according to the sunday times, sharp introduced multi—million canadian businessmen, some blithe, who allegedly offered act as mr. johnson's guarantor to the cabinet secretary shortly before he was recommended by the government for the role of bbc .

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