well, hello there . it's 6:00 on well, hello there. it's 6:00 on michelle dewberry and this is dewbs& co. well, we'll get into some of the things that have got you talking. 200 asylum seeker children are apparently missing from the system . who are they? from the system. who are they? where have they gone? who's to blame? how do we fix it? they are the things that are on my mind when it comes to that topic tonight. what do you make to it? and menopause leave should not be a thing when comes to the be a thing when it comes to the pubuc be a thing when it comes to the public sector. the private sector this country. has sector in this country. it has been rejected as a concept ,

been rejected as a concept, apparently, least because it apparently, not least because it would be discriminatory against men. what do you make of that ? men. what do you make of that? also as well about 70% of hospital trusts apparently still have some form of visiting restrictions. this is, of course, all to do with covid. what do you make to this? do you think? it is basic common sense? well, do you think it is lunacy ? i want your thoughts on that. and kids at school, ? i want your thoughts on that. and kids at school , who should and kids at school, who should have the final say as to what they taught, particularly when it comes to issues like sex, education, relationships, gender and all that kind of stuff, because apparently lots of parents are being blocked from seeing the material that their kids are being taught. but why should the decisions lie that you as a parent or does teacher know best? i want your thoughts on all of that, but let's bring ourselves up to speed, shall we, with latest headlines with tonight's latest headlines . michelle, thank you and good

evening to you. our top story on gb news today, a relative of the murder victim, zahra olina, says probation officers have blood on their hands after a report found her killer was released from prison just days before carrying out the attack. jordan mcsweeney was given a life sentence last month after he admitted killing the law graduate. he attacked 35 year old zara in east london as she walked home after a night out last june. the findings show mcsweeney should have been treated as a high risk of serious harm offender. but he was wrongly graded as a medium risk. zara's aunt, farnaz, says more needs to be done to avoid the same thing happening again . the same thing happening again. our streets are not safe. probation and work has to be tight. has to be high quality because the risks, the stake is high. the stake is lives. zahra's life was taken and

probation have blood on their hands. probation have blood on their hands . well, the policing hands. well, the policing minister chris philp says the government has ordered a review into how mcsweeney probation was managed . the probation service managed. the probation service i think has completely accepted the recommendations the inspector has made . they're inspector has made. they're making changes to the way they risk assess offenders . they're risk assess offenders. they're putting more resources into it. they've hired, i think, an extra couple of thousand, two and a half thousand probation service staff in the last two years. they're increasing their funding b y £155 million to make sure by £155 million to make sure this doesn't happen again, that supervising, i think over 200,000 defenders, this kind of incident is thankfully very rare, but it is appalling and heartbreaking when it does happen. heartbreaking when it does happen . well, in other news happen. well, in other news today, the chairman of the bbc says he won't stand down from his role over the boris johnson loan row. richard shaw made the comments as he welcomed a review by the commissioner of public appointments into how he got his job. mr. shapps under scrutiny

over his links to the former prime minister and his role in talks over an £800,000 loan. speaking to the bbc, mr. sharp says he's confident he was appointed on merit. now a senior conservative mp has suggested the prime minister did not know nadhim zahawi had any outstanding tax issues when he appointed him as chair of the conservative party. if you're watching on television, there are some flashing images coming up . are you're going to resign ? up. are you're going to resign? you're under pressure to resign , sir. well, rishi sunak has ordered an ethics inquiry into mr. zahawi. taxify is after he admitted paying a penalty to hmrc following an error. he said over shares in a polling company that he co—founded. the former chancellor has welcomed the investigation, saying he's confident he acted properly throughout. but the shadow foreign secretary, david lammy, is calling on the tory party chair to resign . the idea that

chair to resign. the idea that you could have been chancellor when you were negotiating this is simply offensive. this is not a mistake . you can't a mistake. you can't miscalculate to hold money offshore and then not pay it and then have to pay a penalty. i think whatever your political persuasion in any government, this is an individual who would have resigned or would have been sacked . yes. let us get into the sacked. yes. let us get into the detail of what in fact happened. but the teams, as always, should no longer be on the frontbench. thatis no longer be on the frontbench. that is absolutely clear . no longer be on the frontbench. that is absolutely clear. in scotland , the firefighter who scotland, the firefighter who was seriously hurt in a blaze at the famous jenny's department store building in edinburgh yesterday has been named 38 year old barry martin, who joined dozens of other crew members to tackle the flames, which broke out in rose street in the morning. he is still in hospital in a critical condition. the scottish fire and rescue service saying they're still trying to work out what the fire. work out what caused the fire. scientists have moved the hands of the doomsday clock closer to

midnight than ever before. the metaphorical clock measures how close humanity is to extinction. now stands at 90 seconds to midnight, which is 10 seconds closer to midnight than when it last moved in 2020. and russia's invasion of ukraine is one of the main reasons, we're told , the main reasons, we're told, for the change. and on that, poland has formally requested germany's approval to send up to 14 leopard 2 tanks to ukraine. the polish defence minister saying the request comes as the security of the whole of europe is at stake . a german government is at stake. a german government spokesperson says they'll treat the request with the utmost urgency. and that comes after bofis urgency. and that comes after boris johnson urged other countries to follow the uk's lead in providing tanks to ukraine. writing in today's daily mail newspaper, the former prime minister called on other nafions prime minister called on other nations to provide kyiv with the weapons it needs to win the war. in the united states, classified

document have been found in the home of the former us vice president mike pence. his lawyer says the files were in his indiana home last week and passed on to the fbi for review. the search was done in the wake of the news that classified material was found in president joe biden's home and office outside of the white house. former president donald trump's mar a lago home was also raided last august, in which top secret documents were seized . here at documents were seized. here at home, princess eugenie says she and her husband, jack brooksbank , are so excited to be expecting their second child. a photograph released on instagram by the princess shows the couple's first child, august, hugging his mum's pregnant tummy. in a statement, the palace says the royal family is delighted and august is very much looking forward to being a big brother very soon. you're up to date on tv online, a dab plus radio with gb news back now to dewbs& co .

gb news back now to dewbs& co. thanks for that swell. our michelle dewberry and i will be keeping you company right through till 7:00 this evening alongside me, i've got the political consultant emma burnell and the of the burnell and the leader of the heritage party , david katz. and heritage party, david katz. and good evening to both of you and welcome , of course, all of welcome, of course, to all of you home. you're very welcome you at home. you're very welcome tonight. know, the tonight. and, you know, the drill. you're a regular drill. if you're a regular viewer, about viewer, it's not just about history. about you at home history. it's about you at home as well. what's on your mind tonight? get touch. gb views tonight? get in touch. gb views at news dot uk is my email or at gb news dot uk is my email or you tweet me at gb news. if you can tweet me at gb news. if you can tweet me at gb news. if you just tuned you're you just tuned in you're thinking what is on menu thinking what is on the menu for tonight's talk to you tonight's i want to talk to you about so called child about these so called child asylum seekers that have gone missing . who are they? where are missing. who are they? where are they ? what do about they going? what do we do about it ? i also want to talk about it? i also want to talk about hospital visiting restrictions. about of trusts still have about 70% of trusts still have restrict tions. why is a sense of all or a little bit of a step

too far? i want your thoughts on that. and schools , you know, that. and schools, you know, these lessons to do with sex education and relationships and all the rest of it, apparently some of these kind of companies are restricting parents from being able to see the material, saying it's things like saying that it's things like breaches , copyright and all the breaches, copyright and all the rest what do you make to rest of it. what do you make to that? i won't be having any of it if that occurring in my it if that was occurring in my schools, kids school, i can schools, my kids school, i can tell you, me all your tell you, give me all your thoughts on those topics tonight. let's into our tonight. but let's get into our top one, shall we? the reports that these child asylum seekers , 90 that these child asylum seekers , go missing, about 200 of , they go missing, about 200 of them, apparently in the observer. it was saying that some been abducted some of them have been abducted outside , bundled into outside hotels, bundled into vehicles and off they've gone. the home office is saying that it doesn't have the authority to detain people. i use the detain these people. i use the word children, by the way , word children, by the way, because what it's all because that is what it's all saying everywhere. but you saying everywhere. but if you ask a little bit ask me, i'm a little bit suspicious, put mildly, as suspicious, to put it mildly, as to or not these are to whether or not these are children first place. but children in the first place. but anyway, your thoughts? anyway, david, your thoughts? yeah, a bit suspicious as yeah, i'm a bit suspicious as well. i like you said,

well. i mean, like you said, this appeared in this story appeared in the observer. their whole observer. so their whole narrative make us sort of narrative is to make us sort of sympathetic to the idea that there's a lot of asylum seekers coming over and they need help . coming over and they need help. but the figures of these 200 that went missing from brighton is that 88% of them were albanian. so they're not genuine asylum seekers . and then only 13 asylum seekers. and then only 13 of them were under the age of 16. so that means 187 of them were between 16 and 18. officially, as they said, so many of them may have been adults as well . so they adults as well. so they certainly don't need a lot of our probably our sympathy. they probably what's they've gone what's happened is they've gone into the black black economy and so that were from so on that they were from albania, they pre—arranged albania, that they pre—arranged to then to meet somebody and then disappeared. certainly disappeared. i mean, i certainly wouldn't be worried about mostly 16 to 18 year old albanians disappearing, not for their safety . but what i would be safety. but what i would be concerned about are the safety of british people who may come into contact with some of them who may have criminal intent. you know, and we saw, know , you know, and we saw, you know, just story this week just a terrible story this week of the marine that potentially

the marine recruit in bournemouth who was murdered by an afghan migrant who was 18 and said he was 14. so there's all loads of issues to do with. so that was also a double murderer . that's right. he had a double murder in serbia. yes. emma burnell , i suspect you might. burnell, i suspect you might. and judging by your face alone, which you're listening, not which if you're listening, not watch, you can't see your face. it's only press. yes it's very only press. yes i mean, there's a lot of different things to unpack from what david just said. first of all, these are unaccompanied minors . we are unaccompanied minors. we have a duty of care to them. whether we decide that they will stay in the uk or not, that they may need to because because they because they're children. that's what they say they are, but not necessarily. i'm sorry, but until we know otherwise, let's assume that even if one of them isn't unaccompanied minor , let isn't unaccompanied minor, let us say that that's the policy that should working to that we should be working to right of these right some of these unaccompanied we owe unaccompanied minors. we owe them of whether or them a duty of care whether or not they we decide to send back to albania or to give them

asylum here. that's a separate question. but as we do humanise these who have been lost these people who have been lost in our system , we question them. in our system, we question them. do you think it's dehumanising someone ? if someone gets on the someone? if someone gets on the bus , comes into a country and bus, comes into a country and says, i'm 14 when i don't know you, i don't know, and you don't know. so until we do know, let's take the facts that we've been given in a reputable newspaper. they may have a slant towards compassion. oh no, how awful. but this is a reputable news. but this is a reputable news. but they're saying these are minors. they are almost certainly minors . they'll a fact certainly minors. they'll a fact check that we are talking about minors who've gone missing, who are probably in the hands of the evil gang. so we've all agreed we should be trying to stop. we owe those kids a duty of care if we decide that they don't have a valid asylum claim . that's valid asylum claim. that's a separate question , but it's not separate question, but it's not the same as saying these kids should be sent off . and should just be sent off. and then you've got both this combination of the idea that

they're a working off in the black economy and b, also a bunch of murderers. and that's just baffled to me that you can hold those two ideas in your head and the same they ought to i mean , we've got of all why i mean, we've got of all why don't we have a secure system that looks after these children properly , makes a decision as to properly, makes a decision as to whether they've got a valid claim on some mental health system? what do you mean? well i would say that having first of all, we should not be having people going into hotel doors. that's a waste everybody's that's a waste of everybody's resource. should have resource. we should have a proper system there should proper system. there should be valid, safe routes for people to come as they need to, and they can apply through those proper rules. fact that we have rules. the fact that we have people coming over boats in people coming over in boats in the channel is a failure of our system, not people trying to system, not of people trying to get in illegally. it's because we don't ways for them to we don't have ways for them to come properly. anderson you come properly. lee anderson you might be familiar. i mean, you just laughed. what are you pre—empting? what i'm going to say, have had say, you know, you must have had his update de says that some of these are to box these people are going to box

them. not going to box them. no, he's not going to box them. no, he's not going to box them. she's on about steve bray, that past the protesting past lee him lee anderson has offered him a boxing match for charity. but no, he's not to box no, he's not offering to box these people what would these people what he would suggesting them . suggesting is you detain them. you safely, securely you detain them safely, securely , whilst you are doing all the checks and balances. well, i would detain is would say i mean, detain is a loaded word, but i do think there should be centres for these place people to live, not in the horrific conditions we saw them where they were catching these tuberculosis victorian when they victorian diseases when they were in manston proper facilities whereby we can process this properly but they should not be coming in these numbers whether they are, because we should have safe and legal routes. oh gosh, i mean, this is the bigger issue, isn't it? there's so much illegal immigration into the country, mostly from albania and places where a lot of them coming through france, which is a safe country. so nobody coming from france is a genuine asylum seeker. so we need to stop the boats from coming from france and just push them back to france. and that would solve

half the problem. you're going to manage that because a lot of them to people to manage that because a lot of th

people now coming across people who are now coming across the channel are coming from albania story , the albania like this story, the same majority , the 200 people in same majority, the 200 people in brighton who've gone missing, as i said, 88% of them are from albania . so they're not telling albania. so they're not telling asylum. please call them children until we know otherwise. please call them children. well, not necessarily. what's your question then? because were very kind because you were very kind person. you're sitting there saying, oh, you know, we should take them at their. where did it when you read that that when you read that story that made yesterday or the made the press yesterday or the day of guy that said day before of some guy that said he was 14 and lied, he wasn't 14 at all. a he was an adult. b he was a mass murderer. i'd killed two people already see it being done for drug dealing and then d went on to kill someone else. isn't there a part of you that sits there and goes actually , sits there and goes actually, maybe we do need to exercise a little bit? of course, i think we should have a lawless rule. listen piety, i'm saying we should have good laws that we enforce. well that guy was a failure of our laws to be

enforced. well i. i get really frustrated with this because i feel i'm with all due respect , feel i'm with all due respect, you always pin the blame on this country, the facilities . it's country, the facilities. it's like a minute ago you were just saying we should have these wonderful facilities all these whatever, whereas you just use these facilities. i said these facilities. well, i said we'd facilities in which we'd have facilities in which people tuberculosis. people don't catch tuberculosis. yes but this yes but why did this tuberculosis or whatever it was come from? it came from the kind of conditions the victorian level slum like conditions where those kind of illnesses breed. that's the problem that we have. we are putting people into victorian slum like conditions and then why would you then for, you know , to really seem like you know, to really seem like they don't come on closest . well they don't come on closest. well i think it's really how it happens. i thought there are a couple of these ailments, whatever these ailments were and i think there were different ones. i thought that actually being brought via these people that were infected before arrival that's of the arrival and that's one of the you spread it by people, people, you spread it by people, people, you tuberculosis when we you know, tuberculosis when we

wiped out in this country previously because knocked previously because we knocked down , we are now down the slums, we are now putting people into inhumane conditions , whatever we have to conditions, whatever we have to have rules. they have to be enforced. i've never argued against that, michel. i never have and i never will. you know, that's only one place we the way that's only one place we the way that we enforce those is by having a system that works where all these wonderful facilities you don't need quite so big facilities. if you have safe and legal routes . facilities. if you have safe and legal routes. but facilities. if you have safe and legal routes . but secondly, legal routes. but secondly, there are plenty of ways that we can do this. we just have to make sure that the system works better. and unfortunately, nothing in this country works. and that includes the asylum system david yeah, system. david yeah, unfortunately, know , the unfortunately, you know, the country there is no, country is full. there is no, there no houses to put there are no houses to put people you are a british people in. if you are a british person and you want a council house, for example, you might be waiting it waiting 20, 30, 40 years. it just simply gone . we said , just simply all gone. we said, get in the door, you know , the get in the door, you know, the people who are coming across illegally, there's a nearly 50,000 last year coming because they know they get rewarded if

they know they get rewarded if they come to the country and get put into a four or five star hotels immediately, they get an aspen card with £875 cash a week , as well as free board and lodging. and so on. so these are all people get for all rewards people get for coming to the country, which is why more people are why more and more people are coming because think, coming over because they think, well, soft touch. well, britain is a soft touch. what need to do is stop all what we need to do is stop all of the benefits for people who are coming illegally, and are coming across illegally, and particularly people are particularly for people who are not asylum seekers who not genuine asylum seekers who were economic migrants from albania places coming albania and other places coming from safe country like france from a safe country like france that needs to stop and it can be done. you guys are in touch. i mean, my inbox. done. you guys are in touch. i mean, my inbox . what are you mean, my inbox. what are you talking about? said , it's talking about? and i said, it's a can't we can't a nonsense. we can't we can't just that these people just pretend that these people are human don't have. are human that don't have. right. not saying they're right. i'm not saying they're not but if someone not human, but if someone is coming country illegally coming to the country illegally , they're taking they're , then they're taking they're taking blaming taking advantage of blaming asylum. right. claim asylum asylum. right. to claim asylum while they are waiting for that asylum decision, be asylum decision, which should be taken quicker , they should taken quicker, they should probably working rather than probably be working rather than claiming benefits. we don't claiming benefits. but we don't give right to do that .

give them the right to do that. well, do you stand on all well, where do you stand on all of this? i've got to say, my primary your primary concern seems to be the well—being and safety all the rest of it of safety and all the rest of it of the people in the making, the channel crossings, my primary concern the well—being concern is the well—being and the and all rest of the safety and all the rest of it, people who end up it, of people who end up children in this country that end up in classrooms with men pretending be children and my pretending to be children and my primary concern is not with a do this to be a child, this pretending to be a child, it's children in that it's with the children in that classroom. with the foster classroom. it's with the foster carers. men their house carers. these men in their house and they don't have to be. we are about a group of are talking about a group of children there somebody children. if there is somebody abusing that system, they should have the book thrown at them. but are talking about but lastly, we are talking about vulnerable children. they are not action. well, not incompetent action. well, you know, i worry about this topic i just feel that topic because i just feel that it's getting so out of hand now. and i do not see how anyone is going to get a grip of it if this government wanted to have more serious , should i say, more serious, should i say, about getting a on all of about getting a grip on all of these crossings, they these channel crossings, they would now. and would have done it by now. and all seeing is the numbers

all we're seeing is the numbers increasing, increasing, increasing, increasing, increasing water use it. what increasing water use to it. what is mean, that is is the answer? i mean, that is the million question the million dollar question to all isn't it safe and all of this. isn't it safe and legal is what emma's legal routes is what emma's saying . does that fix all of saying. does that fix all of this? don't know. you tell me this? i don't know. you tell me . judhh this? i don't know. you tell me . judith can the . can judith says, can the general public of the uk sue the government for lack of management and care? well, i tell you what, you talk about suing the some people that are doing quite well actually of all of situation. that is of this situation. and that is the i wonder if they the lawyers. i wonder if they want this bringing to an end any time soon. cameron says whether they children or not, they are children or not, i doubt the apathetic government will much effort into will really put much effort into finding them . and he says the finding them. and he says the vast majority of so—called child asylum seekers are in reality adults masquerading as children to prevent deportation . and to prevent deportation. and emma's not having any of that . emma's not having any of that. even as i'm reading that out, she's muttering, saying that it's basically disagrees it's basically she disagrees with simon says that we with you. simon says that we should not house migrants, we should not house migrants, we should house our own homeless people. fair adrian the legal route for asylum seekers surely

is to fly in to a uk airport and present themselves to immigration. if your claim is genuine , you would be accepted . genuine, you would be accepted. keep your thoughts coming in. i've got to say, i can see that you are doing exactly that. my inboxis you are doing exactly that. my inbox is flying with this one. emma's having none of it. i don't think we're going to reach a resolution any time soon. so let's move on. i am a woman. i mean, i say a lot these days means something with common sense, but who knows anyway? should get paid leave if should you get paid leave if you're going for the menopause and struggling with that? apparently that suggestion apparently see that suggestion as being ruled out because get this , it might discriminatory this, it might be discriminatory to men. is it ? it's all male to men. is it? it's all male slavery, too many .

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got to say, we've just been arguing throughout the entire break. the political constants and emma burnell leader as and the emma burnell leader as well the heritage party, well of the heritage party, david caton, emma and i was not agreeing at all. emma is vastly concerned for the safety of 200 missing children . i'm just missing children. i'm just pondenng missing children. i'm just pondering how on earth do you know that these are children? emma's response was because the newspaper told her so . oh, i newspaper told her so. oh, i don't know. i don't wash with me anyway. let's move on, shall we? maybe i'm just being harsh and pasting the women on pasting on the women on equalities committee. you've suggested that the government should period of should introduce a period of paid leave for menopausal women in that was going to be potentially a trial. and this would in the public sector. but among other things, there's concern. emma that this would be discriminate free to men . that's discriminate free to men. that's a bizarre line to me. we do not know enough about the menopause . we don't have enough medical information. we don't have enough understanding of in society. and i know this because three years ago, it's mammy me

in the face quite hard. and all of the things that i thought about menopausal symptoms that are basically a joke . and then are basically a joke. and then you get to a much more complex and you realise brain fog is so real and tariff being the hot flushes, i thought hot flushes were a bit of a joke when you see them on the tv or whatever. it's like a 20 minute flu. it's bizarre. it's the most bizarre thing i've ever experi inside. and on the other hand, this is and this is 50% of the population are going to go through this. so we need to have better medical understand. and i think most women my age want to keep working and don't want to take great deal of leave. i take a great deal of leave. i certainly don't. mean, i'm certainly don't. i mean, i'm a freelancer, i couldn't. but freelancer, so i couldn't. but i do think we need better understanding of how to have two simple workplace adjustments to make it easy for people who are experiencing what can be quite debility , taking symptoms that debility, taking symptoms that you don't recognise and

understand how debilitating they are you through them are until you go through them and to make sure that we're okay , they're a catalyst. i think the story is hilarious because it's the women inequalities committee in parliament, which is the most woke body in the whole of the parliamentary estate. and they combine trying to find a problem which doesn't exist. and the solution for a problem that doesn't exist, i mean, there's never, ever been a need for menopause leave. okay? there's maternity relief. yes. and then you have paternity leave they're just leave as well. but they're just trying create another thing trying to create another thing in justify their in order for to justify their existence. and then they really as well, if we do this , the as well, if we do this, the people who are even more woke say well, can't do this say, well, we can't do this because this might offensive because this might be offensive to men and affect men's equality because they see everything through the prism as the equality act. and in fact that is then scuppered them from doing something which they didn't need to do in the first place. so we're talking themselves up in knots. i mean, you work colleagues and i was , you work colleagues and i was, you work colleagues and i was, you know, often parents not

maternity leave, paid menopause leave . what you think she saw ? leave. what you think she saw? hang on a minute. why is she getting an extra ten days off paid? and i'm not. would that offend you? i should have midlife crisis leave as well , midlife crisis leave as well, you know, because that would only fair and equal. why are only be fair and equal. why are you having a midlife crisis? no, i'm not myself. but just in case i'm not myself. but just in case i did it, i should do because, you know, you have something that women have, something men should have. something well. should have. something as well. i well what what i think you know well what what the and that's the equality act says and that's what have do. the what you have to do. so the whole thing is you got woke people tying themselves up in knots with waikerie. jim says, i've problem with women i've got no problem with women having off. having some kind of time off. granted i'm very embarrassed as a that they might some a man that they might be some men think unfair. it men who think it's unfair. it means you, we men don't go through the mass kind of hormonal changes women do. hormonal changes that women do. let have what they let the women have what they need within reason, he says. reasonable yes, but i like that within reason , within a right. within reason, within a right. and you do have to have and i would say that there should be a

range of workplace adjustments where i mean, most of the time i can work absolutely fine every now and again. it does smack you around. and when your as i have been moving into hrt that can have an immediate effect and then a long term effect. i am much better now my hrt is pretty much better now my hrt is pretty much settled and sorted, but before that was right, i was having three or four debilitating hot flushes a day . debilitating hot flushes a day. now i didn't need to take a whole day's leave, but i certainly needed half an hour to go and lie in a darkened room and frankly, david, if any man at that point had told this very hormonal woman that i didn't have real you would have a real problem, you would have a real problem, you would have a real problem. oh, have had a real problem. oh, well, there you go. was fighting talk, but mean, talk, isn't it? but i mean, i actually you know, if you actually think, you know, if you have a problem like that, okay, then you take an hour off then you can take an hour off work can take a day off work or you can take a day off work, which people work, which is what people normally have. have sick normally have. they have sick leave this. everybody leave to do this. everybody in every contract and every with every contract and every with every employer has certain every employer has a certain amount and

amount of days of sick leave and that can be used, you know, if you have a vow, makes an interesting says as old interesting point says as an old woman the to this woman myself the answer to this question no. in terms question is no. in terms of menopause, leave i've menopause, leave women. i've fought equality not fought for equality see not weaponise feminine see as yet another work pack that is on available for men . yeah you available for men. yeah you really are quite divided on these cases . so if you start these cases. so if you start giving women time off because of menopause, how long would it be before the trials females decided and demanded the exact same thing , saying i am going same thing, saying i am going for it mentally so you need to recognise that or i will sue for discrimination. action. jane nessis discrimination. action. jane ness is surely a modern woman with all of the wonderful drugs available to manage just to carry on. just like her grandma did, and so on and so forth. if this had passed, next would be young women taking seven days off every single month. she says she's menopause . i'm she's hit menopause. i'm self—employed she managed self—employed and she managed it. so back to being at school, my best friend , every time of

my best friend, every time of the month she used to get off because she used to say, you know , it's time to pee. and she know, it's time to pee. and she was just using it really as an excuse to go out. well, i promise you, as a self—employed person, i can't use anything to get off work because if i don't work, i don't earn . it can be work, i don't earn. it can be very debilitating . it's not very debilitating. it's not a long lasting thing . i would long lasting thing. i would never take a whole day off of menopause, leave myself, put an hour or two and just being aware. so i think there is a definite place that we can come to where we're more aware of what women of the in their mid to late forties to their mid to late fifties are likely to be going through and just making adjustments to the workplace to ensure you get the best out of them, which is actually good employment practise save the best comment goes to you you said i think it should definitely go through and then steve says that he wants to identify as a woman so that he gets the time off as well. well, you can do that these days, can't you, steve? is steve was a

sensible man that he is not messing around. lots of you. the thing that you want to talk to me is that topic before me about is that topic before the break about this so called children asylum seekers. jill says so many these people says if so many of these people didn't of their didn't dispose of their passports paperwork, etc. it passports or paperwork, etc. it would easy check would be very easy to check whether or not they are indeed children . and mike so many children. and mike says so many of these people have connections to the uk because now so many people have come in that of course so many people going forward have friends and relatives, etc. wrong, says michelle. the public events in their anger ongoing now with the ridiculous asylum system because they have never had a say in it since they won. david says. michelle, if you enter this country illegally, you're not seeking asylum. there is a legal process to seek asylum. but the point i suspect , david, process to seek asylum. but the point i suspect, david, is that that's a system is flawed . that's a system is flawed. people like emma would argue, perhaps that there's not enough safe routes. and i think it was suella braverman , i think it was suella braverman, i think it was a select committee. she was actually asked the direct

question about what are safe question about what are the safe and routes then that and legal routes then that people don't know. these people and get elena but what and so they get elena but what the routes that the safe and legal routes that they use . and i got to say they can use. and i got to say she i'm being polite as she stumbled to mildly. what stumbled to put it mildly. what i mean to say she didn't i mean to say is she didn't really an answer . anyway, really have an answer. anyway, i'm take a quick break. i'm going to take a quick break. when come back , i want to when i come back, i want to ponder about schooling , because ponder about schooling, because for me, i think this is such a big topic because when it comes to your kids, your ground kids, your nieces, your nephews, whatever , and what they're being whatever, and what they're being taughtin whatever, and what they're being taught in schools, whether it's around sex education, all this gender stuff, whatever, who should have the final say into what those kids are taught? should you, as the parent, grandparent, whatever, be able to see the material they're learning from and veto it? essentially, if you're not happy with it all, just teach her no best. i want your thoughts and i'll see you into .

hello, i'm michelle dewberry keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight alongside me . and they've got alongside me. and they've got you to you guys talking at home. i can tell you that the consultant emma burnell and the leader of the heritage party, david katz. and so many of you getting in touch about both those topics, the so called children and asylum seeking children and asylum seeking children that have gone missing to hundreds of them. so many of you are getting in contact with that. you are getting in contact with that . i have to say, you are getting in contact with that. i have to say, i'm i'm trying hard to find someone that's got all political sympathy with them. so many people . and we're just pushing people. and we're just pushing back on this whole kind of nofion back on this whole kind of notion that we just don't know who. lots of these people are on this whole menopause thing, whether or not women should get time off . so many of you are time off. so many of you are divided on this one. sally says, how on earth you think those how on earth do you think those women have managed in the past?

we did it and we're all still alive. i've worked entire alive. i've worked my entire working life and just got on with can everyone please get with it. can everyone please get a sally, someone a grip that says sally, someone else? name. else? i've just lost your name. i'm afraid you say. i thought women wanted equality they women wanted equality when they get do they seem to get it. why then do they seem to want treatment ? keep want special treatment? keep your thoughts coming in. but let's talk about school , shall let's talk about school, shall we? it might surprise me to learn tomorrow, right? i've got david caton, a man who has been responsive for teaching children there are sex education in schools in the past year, a man of all talents argue the reason i'm talking about this today is because there is concerns that in some of these lessons, parents are not getting access to see what material kids are being told . i think as a parent, being told. i think as a parent, it's crucial in topics like sex, education, all this gender stuff. now that everyone seems to be obsessed with, i would want to look at that. determinants suitable for my kid. and if i determined it wasn't, i would want them to probably cancel out or whatever or b i take my kid out. the

lesson where do you stand on this? because a lot of these organisations are saying that the parents can't be given access to this material because it's of copyright . it's a breach of copyright. first i need to clarify first of all, i need to clarify well to you, i told science so as part of that i taught some, you know, biology, chemistry, physics, two elevens and 14 year olds, and i taught reproduction as part of general science to lots of children in lots of schools i worked in until i became came out gender doing now it be minefield teaching it would be a minefield teaching these these days about these kids these days about reproduction. anyway i go on this thing is you know so i would make a distinction between sex which what sex education which is what i did teaching about reproduction and sexuality education, which is what the un. and the world health organisation, they call this of program. it's being this kind of program. it's being rolled the world, rolled out around the world, everywhere england it's everywhere and in england it's called relation ships and sex education. that's the of it. it's way, way more than just teaching reproduction . it's teaching reproduction. it's teaching reproduction. it's teaching all kinds of non reproductive sexual acts. it's teaching about transgenderism , teaching about transgenderism, it's teaching about lgbt stuff.

and a lot of parents don't want their children to be taught this kind of thing because it's against their values. and that's absolutely fine. and the human rights convention actually supports their right to say, well, my children , if i want well, my children, if i want them to not learn about these things that are conflict with my values, they can take them out of lessons. but this is going to children of a lower and lower and lower age, right down to four and five year olds. now are being material, which is being given material, which is explicit. and it's sexualising material and an absolute lutely. it shouldn't be given to kids at all. so i 100% support parent rights to see all material all in this rc subject relationships and sex education and also psat, which is other and do what once they've seen it then so if they see this stuff they say this inappropriate them well then they should able to say no they should be able to say no i'm going to my children i'm going to take my children out this subject. i'm not out of this subject. i'm not going my children sit in going to let my children sit in a where these kind of a lesson where these kind of sexualising material. you don't

think should try and think that they should try and stop the material being taught. you should just you think that they should just be remove their child be able to remove their child from teaching it? well from the teaching of it? well both. some are both. i mean, you know, some are adamant insist that they're adamant and insist that they're going to go and teach these things, i is things, which i think is absolutely wrong. and this has come a 2017 to come in with a 2017 act to parliament, the children and social i think, which social care act. i think, which brought in compulsory mandatory relations ships education for children in all ages from from primary school for four or five right up to 18. so it's compulsory right now. there is schools some schools don't , you schools some schools don't, you know, they go out of their way to make that there isn't any asian appropriate material you know, so that parents don't have to worry. but some schools are full of activist teachers who deliberately want to give the most sexualising they can possibly find teach the youngest children they're all about transgenderism , etc, etc, which transgenderism, etc, etc, which goes against the wishes of the vast majority of parents. and it shouldn't be done. one of the most cringe worthy moments i've

had on the show before was when i had to. well, i didn't have to. i chose to read out this passage from this book that was aimed i it was seven year aimed, i think it was seven year olds or something like that. it was completely and thinking was a completely and thinking about if you're long time about it, if you're a long time viewer, might recall it viewer, you might recall it. it was appalling deeply was appalling and deeply inappropriate. the inappropriate. and i asked the author, the all from i author, i got the all from i said, why you doing this? said, why are you doing this? why you labelling this for why are you labelling this for seven want to said seven year olds? i want to said it was almost soft and she thought was absolutely fine. it was almost soft and she tithought was absolutely fine. it was almost soft and she tithought itias absolutely fine. it was almost soft and she tithought it was bsolutely fine. it was almost soft and she tithought it was appalling.ine. i thought it was appalling. anyway, my thoughts are in anyway, my thoughts there are in things that we need to teach children around what is inappropriate sexual activity and the nspcc a very, very good and the nspcc a very, very good and very strong on the fact that we absolutely certainly need to teach children what they should be looking out for to be able to say that's not right and that is a big part of what we call sex and relationship education. so when we simply say there should

be no sexual relationship education, we would be taking away some really important safeguarding information that children should have and should be informed with . the thing that be informed with. the thing that sexualise children as they move from 9 to 13 is hormones , is from 9 to 13 is hormones, is adolescence is puberty , and that adolescence is puberty, and that we all go through a period where we all go through a period where we go from innocence to drive , we go from innocence to drive, as have you first case. have you first bumble whatever a better informed child will know more about a being able set their boundanesin about a being able set their boundaries in confidence and b what those boundaries should be and how to manage them is really important that we don't create a sense of permissive ness where children don't feel able to say , but we do that by good education. what does worry me about this story is that there should be no sense that corporations have the ultimate

right to stop parents saying material because of their copyright. that for me , is copyright. that for me, is a massive infringement of the corporate corporate rights taking over anything from from pets. so i think parents should be able to see the materials that their children are being presented . i think we need to presented. i think we need to have a conversation about how to give goods adequate age, appropriate children and sexual health and relationship education. but i don't think we can be as plain as saying it's no good because kids do need to know where how to set boundaries , how to manage consent. and that's a really, really important part of learning. there are programs , for example, there are programs, for example, all about me. this has been in the press, you know, that is some of it is teaching about self stimulation to four year olds and that's been going into some schools. that is clearly totally age inappropriate and totally age inappropriate and totally wrong, whatever measure you use. i mean, this is the kind of thing that is happening in some schools in england right

now. also in wales, because they've introduced it there and scotland as well, because they're there as well. they're doing it there as well. so parents, yeah, they absolutely should have the right to see all of these things. but there that there are some things that simply shouldn't going into simply shouldn't be going into any schools now, age any schools now, whatever age they think we should call they are. i think we should call for teach reproduction in secondary school . but for teach reproduction in secondary school. but primary school kids, they should left to play school kids, they should left to play with toys and stuff . let play with toys and stuff. let kids, school kids have been and can be abused by people and they need to where it's okay to say no to an adult and that is a big part of what this teaches. you don't think the thing is these kids , you don't need to teach kids, you don't need to teach explicit material to do that, but you do need to teach consent. and that is part of sexual education and that is age appropriate primary school education. and what education. and that's what i'm supporting not not supporting. i'm not i'm not saying we should be sticking in schools. other thing is schools. but the other thing is we pretending that there's we are pretending that there's only two inputs into children's world pair ants and schools and actually there's this whole

other world they're getting . and other world they're getting. and if you don't teach them consent , tick—tock will. and i'd much rather they were getting good validation for motion that is run by organisation like the nspcc . then some of the people nspcc. then some of the people that you see on tiktok, this is the wider issue is that parents should be the primary educator. the children they should be controlling what the kids see on the internet and their mobile phones and smartphones. i mean, i don't think that, you know , i don't think that, you know, young have young children should have a smartphone at all and they should be monitored totally the internet. but of parents internet. but a lot of parents are great parents. i think are not great parents. i think they're abdicating their responsible bility. they need to take responsibility for their children. absolutely. this is something that can't neglect something that you can't neglect as parents. so, i mean, this is as parents. so, i mean, this is a wider issue that need to go a wider issue that we need to go back a society where parents back to a society where parents take responsibility as the primary and don't primary educators and don't leave it to the schools. don't leave it to the schools. don't leave it to the schools. don't leave it to the state. don't leave it to the state. don't leave it to tik tok. they've got to be in control. yeah. and i'm a big advocate of that. if you've got school age children, i getting in i would absolutely be getting in touch and asking to

touch with school and asking to see what content are your kids being taught? because when i started delving into this, i read, as i've said , i read read, as i've said, i read a story out and it was awful. if you ask me , maybe i'm just being you ask me, maybe i'm just being a bit prudish, i don't know. but it was it made my eyes water mark. how so? it did. this is adrian says this is what has happened america. of this happened in america. all of this gives free rein to gives teachers free rein to indoctrinate children work indoctrinate children with work marxist propaganda, he says nick says a child's welfare was a response ability of their parents. teachers have no right or parental to do anything else. teachers are charged with educating our children with sex objects and not their passing on opinions or political views. my assignment says if my child's school can't tell me what they're teaching my children, i wouldn't be sending them to school. surely as a parent, i've got a right to know. well, you would think so, but it is worth checking particularly with this kind of subject, because if you ask me anywhere. i think there's

ask me anywhere. i think there's a few strange things going on that for sure. kyiv cases. that is for sure. kyiv cases. i've got nine child, nine children and keith in sex ed case. that is the case has nine children and they were all taught sex education at home, not school. he says they're all now married with their own kids. it is nothing to do with the state, says keith . i'm going to state, says keith. i'm going to take a quick break. when i come back, i'll have some more of your thoughts. but i also want to ponder this said let's keep a sense of hospital trust are still imposing restrictions when it comes to visitation of patients. and this is, of course, three years old now all day or thereabouts , when the day or thereabouts, when the height of all this covid insanity, what are you saying to this? do you think it's right to have these kind of restrictions or a call and i'll see or give me a call and i'll see you .

in two. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company until 7:00 tonight alongside me, i've got the political consultant emma burnell and the leader of the heritage party , david katz. and heritage party, david katz. and michael been in touch michael has been in touch saying, i don't usually agree with them, but as a former head teacher, think she was right teacher, i think she was right on last issue. we talk on that last issue. we talk about sex education about sex. sex education in schools. he says primary schools do amazing amount of work on do an amazing amount of work on sex education. and we teach children equal power relationships . and he says the relationships. and he says the vast majority of schools do not use explicit materials. i don't think any schools should be using explicit materials at all. and my michael is if parents are asking to see the content of what it is that their children are being taught, they should neven are being taught, they should never, ever be any reason why the answer to that question is no. you cannot see the material . i wouldn't accept that. as a parent , i'd . i wouldn't accept that. as a parent, i'd be having absolutely none of it. i'd be in that school quicker then. i don't

know what. it's very suspicious to me. if you wouldn't be showing the parent what it is that you're teaching your kids doesn't at doesn't sound right to me at all. let's on. 70% of all. anyway, let's on. 70% of hospital trusts are still placing restrictions visiting placing restrictions on visiting relatives . this is all about the relatives. this is all about the covid relatives. this is all about the covm thing . relatives. this is all about the covid thing . hmm. what do you covid thing. hmm. what do you think to this? i'm just going to quote straight such. do you think it's still acceptable now in the here now, the in the here and now, the hospitals doing went it hospitals are doing went it depends what these restrictions are. if the restrictions are you can't come i think that's overbearing and unnecessary. if the restrictions are when you come into a hospital, please wear a mask, that's absolutely fine these are places where people are immunocompromised . people are immunocompromised. nobody you to wear nobody is asking you to wear a mask outside of the hospital. but coming in, sensible. but coming in, be sensible. don't a wally. wear a mask. don't be a wally. wear a mask. it's that simple . i went it's really that simple. i went to a friend hospital to visit a friend in hospital quite recently . it was perfectly quite recently. it was perfectly fine. i walked in, i put a mask on. i went to see my friend. we were in his room alone. we weren't wearing masks in his room were quite room because we were quite separate. just about being separate. it's just about being sensible. is covid still

sensible. there is covid still out there for those people who are hospital, they probably are in hospital, they probably are in hospital, they probably are so we are more vulnerable. so we should therefore act appropriately to the situation. let me just understand so want you someone in hospitals you visited someone in hospitals that you a mask on, but then that you put a mask on, but then as soon as you got close to the person that was apparently vulnerable, you took moscow because there for that because he wasn't there for that particular was particular illness. but as i was walking through, was walking walking through, i was walking past lot of people could past a lot of people who could have immuno compromised. my have been immuno compromised. my friend it fine for friend wasn't so it was fine for him that advice. so i him and we had that advice. so i followed the rules. it's that simple. don't work in simple. mask don't work in stopping anyway stopping transmission anyway because you have a massive gap on the of your mask and big on the side of your mask and big gaps front of the gaps in front. the front of the mask in the mesh. it doesn't work. one needs to wear work. no one needs to wear a mask. there is no guide and there's even guidance there's not even guidance to wear a mask any more, let alone legislation not that i agree with in first place. so with that in the first place. so any hospital that you need any hospital that says you need to mask at the moment, we to wear a mask at the moment, we never had to before. i mean, never had to do before. i mean, it's going to fall shouldn't it's going to fall you shouldn't have that. but i think the have to do that. but i think the restrictions they are restrictions that they are having often is hide having more often is the hide our distancing our social distancing restrictions and restrictions on

time. restricting time. so they're restricting visits to day setting visits to one day setting hours. yeah a day for yeah but one hour a day for people, like, way too low. i mean, that's being prison. mean, that's like being prison. that's times, isn't it? that's prison times, isn't it? i mean, you should be they should be visiting times, you know, it's five, six, 7 hours it's normally five, six, 7 hours a you can go and visit a day that you can go and visit relatives, not one hour a day. and that 23 hours a day and then that 23 hours a day with chance of being visited with no chance of being visited by to live by anybody. you need to live that let see their that and. let people see their relatives a good amount of relatives for a good amount of time each day if they want to, even don't know certain even if i don't know certain people watching this, people are watching this, they'll be shouting at the screen were screen and saying, if you were whatever type of is and whatever type of mask is and it's whatever type of mask is and ifs and whatever type of mask is and it's and all the rest it's all public and all the rest of it, it may have a slight reduction transmission. reduction on transmission. and so need to acknowledge that so i do need to acknowledge that surgeons wear masks when they're making operations right there. no, protect no, that's to protect us. to protect things blood protect from things like blood splashes like that. splashes and things like that. when they're operating on open wounds, your wounds, which to which your mental just in mental health, just like in a situation like where there's people you just people around, you know, just walking the corner, mean, i'm walking the corner, i mean, i'm not day, i'm not me one day, but i'm corridors full of corridors now actually full of patients. have the misfortune patients. i have the misfortune of spending a bit of time in

children's hospitals and i am disgusted and appalled by some of the experiences that i have under the excuse of covid. they will do like in the waiting rooms of these hospitals. they've removed all play activities. they they will remove things like adding a distraction , organs from the distraction, organs from the walls , etc. because of covid. walls, etc. because of covid. and, and people will say , well, and, and people will say, well, why don't you take your own toys in to distract your child or whatever? but it's not as simple as that. it is distraction, therapy, play, etc. is a huge part of a child going through medical procedures and all the rest of it. and i think it is wrong that hospitals are still labouring under this kind of all because of covid. this because of covid, that when someone is ill hospital , of covid, that when someone is ill hospital, a part of their ill in hospital, a part of their wellness, a part of their recovery is around having their loved ones close by having that contact , all the rest of it . and contact, all the rest of it. and it's wrong. surely, if you're one person's loved one and there are a thousand other patients you need to be making sure that

you need to be making sure that you have that contact with that person. you're absolutely right. that's a huge part of the heaung that's a huge part of the healing process. whilst not compromising the other 999 people hospital , it's people in that hospital, it's just taking sensible just about taking sensible measures, not excessive measures, not excessive measures, but sensible ones. and i'm really sad that this has become a stew soup culture war where one side wants to basically rub themselves in dirt and roll around in the hospital and roll around in the hospital and the other side want to go in dressed like in a hazmat suit. and actually they are the real it. so that we can't just go. yes i will wear a mask in a hospital when i go to visit my family for as long as i want to go back to where we were before. no masks, no tests, social distancing for says wife had distancing for says my wife had a major operation in hospital for a week and i wasn't even allowed to see her. i could only ring up. i mean , i can. that is ring up. i mean, i can. that is appalling stuff, says this is all a joke. i couldn't see my nanna before she died in the hospital, same as my dad again . hospital, same as my dad again. sad. i find all of this. hospital, same as my dad again. sad. i find all of this . i spent sad. i find all of this. i spent a month in hospital during the

pandemic. i was completely on my own. wasn't allowed a single solitary visitor. i'll never get over. solitary visitor. i'll never get over . actually, i think it was over. actually, i think it was appalling. and the fact it goes on now still i say shame on you. anyway, that's all i've got time for. thank you very much for your company. thank you at home. have a fantastic evening. i'll see tomorrow . hello there. see you tomorrow. hello there. greg chu has the welcome to our latest broadcast from the met office. still the risk of some fog freezing fog patches, fog and freezing fog patches, particularly across southern parts england . for the next parts of england. for the next 24 hours, see rain 24 hours, we will see rain pushing stuff and we can see that day the pressure that nice day on the pressure chart. a cold pushes chart. a cold front pushes southwards uk but southwards across the uk but high always nearby, high pressure always nearby, meaning those weather fans will be weak side if you have be on the weak side if you have any dry. for many as we any staying dry. for many as we end week. weather fronts end the week. but weather fronts always by towards the north always near by towards the north through this evening time, frost and reforming across central and fog reforming across central and fog reforming across central and southern parts england. and southern parts of england. elsewhere generally quite cloudy, particularly as we head into the early hours, some rain and drizzle pushing across and drizzle pushing in across the west here. the north and the west here. mild temperatures holding up

minus five or minus six. again across england across central southern england as we head towards wednesday morning , a cloudy, foggy start morning, a cloudy, foggy start across the south. the fog patches dense in places, band of rain pushing south across northern parts of the uk . this northern parts of the uk. this light patchy generally light and patchy generally behind it though turning brighter into the across scotland and northern ireland. there will be some showers across northern scotland. one or two heavy, cloudy and two of these heavy, cloudy and cold across the south of england, five or six degrees at best, 7 to 9 across the north of the uk. feeling a little the uk. so feeling a little fresher than it has over the last days here through last couple of days here through wednesday evening, that cloud of rain pushes and south of rain pushes and clears south of england. clear night to england. then a clear night to come across come, particularly across central few showers central areas. a few showers around parts in that around coastal parts in that northerly breeze, but under the clearer skies, it allow temperatures dip away. so generally falling 2 to 5 celsius in towns and cities, little below freezing in the country side, but not enough of a breeze generally to keep it from frost and free for many into thursday, we'll see a bit of a west split

developing cloudy skies towards the east, but there will be some brighter spells here, though. one or two showers are possible. parts of the sunshine the parts of the sunshine across the west, unbroken places give me west, unbroken in places give me a northerly breeze . over a light northerly breeze. over the next few days, high pressure holds largely dry, holds on, keeps it largely dry, weak weather fronts try to move in the north in from the north and temperatures around average .

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