tv Laurence Fox GB News January 25, 2023 8:00pm-9:00pm GMT
8:00 pm
good evening . t.j, it's 8:00. good evening. t.j, it's 8:00. and i'm laurence fox tonight with the discussion around access sets finally not about and i will be looking at the data and discussing the taboo subject further then it's burns night and i will be talking to an actual scottish in scotland about burns night life. then it's back to the met, back the news yet again involving another and another and another rotten apple in the barrel the met.
8:01 pm
commissioner rowley has 2 to 3 offices will be in court week facing charges can change come soon enough and lastly should the coronation be or reflective of our changing david james bond starkey and femi under will battle it out and get most importantly, i want to hear from you . send your views my way at you. send your views my way at gbp news at gbnews.uk or tweet me. a lot of vox. that's all coming up. the headlines with . coming up. the headlines with. parliament good evening. downing street says the prime minister has never actually paid a penalty to the hmrc amid an investigation . the former investigation. the former chancellor nadhim zahawi his tax affairs rishi sunak's been defending how number 10 is handung defending how number 10 is handling the situation, insisting due process is being followed and saying no issues were raised when he appointed zahawi to a ministerial role in
8:02 pm
cabinet. well at a lively pmqs earlier on today, the labour leader accused mr. of being too weak . sack the party chairman, weak. sack the party chairman, sir keir starmer, saying an mp who sought to avoid paying tax was fit to be chancellor mr. sunak has suggested it have been politically expedient , as he sunak has suggested it have been politically expedient, as he put it, to sack mr. zahawi instead, as he awaits the findings of an investigation into the matter . investigation into the matter. now president has called the us announcement of sending 31 abrams tanks to ukraine an important step on the path to victory. germany has already confirmed it would supply 14 leopard 2 battle tanks , the war leopard 2 battle tanks, the war torn country, as well as the re—export from other countries. the kremlin described it as a blatant saying us tanks will burn like all the rest. president joe biden spoke about continued support from washington earlier , saying the washington earlier, saying the us will train ukrainian troops to use vehicles as soon as
8:03 pm
possible . abrams tanks are the possible. abrams tanks are the most capable tanks in the world and they're also extremely complex to operate and maintain. so we're also giving ukraine the parts and equipment necessary to effectively sustain these tanks on the battlefield . when we on the battlefield. when we began will begin to train troops on these issues of sustainment, logistic and maintenance soon as possible . within the last hour, possible. within the last hour, we're learning that the prime minister rishi sunak has had a telephone with the president, the united states, joe biden , as the united states, joe biden, as well as the leaders of germany france and italy. he's put out a tweet from his official account saying, good call with protests. and the other presidents saying really pleased they've all joined the uk in sending main battle tanks to ukraine. and he finishes, we have a window now to accelerate efforts to , secure to accelerate efforts to, secure a lasting peace for ukrainians let's keep it up. that tweet from rishi sunak within the last houn from rishi sunak within the last hour. meanwhile, boris has wished the ukrainian president a
8:04 pm
happy birthday. in a tweet, former prime minister said volodymyr zelenskyy heroic leadership was an example to the whole world. now, in other news , hundreds of illegal migrants have been attempting to cross the english channel today with gb news exclude ripley revealing military are beaches in kent gb news has learned around 450 migrants on nine small boats were intercepted today after a break in the bad weather, several other small boats, we understand, did attempt to the kent coast but didn't make it into uk waters . a 61 year old into uk waters. a 61 year old man has been arrested on, suspicion of assaulting the former health secretary, matt hancock on. the london underground british transport police say they received a report a man had been harassed at westminster tube station yesterday morning . it's believed yesterday morning. it's believed the mp wasn't hurt in the incident. the suspect remains in and enquiries are ongoing . and enquiries are ongoing. that's how you're up to date on tv, online and dab plus . this is
8:05 pm
tv, online and dab plus. this is gb news where now it's for laurence fox . laurence fox. tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in these excess deaths in petit pace from day to day . it's a deaths in petit pace from day to day. it's a shame i don't have a union jack or pair of them hanging following me behind me in front of an austere , yet in front of an austere, yet comforting set of wooden panels to deliver this. it may have had gravitas and weight to it that way just as when the regime did it stood , stalks seriously night it stood, stalks seriously night after winter night. announcing the daily deaths from or as it turned out, much more importantly with the deadly virus , mr. whitty asked for yet virus, mr. whitty asked for yet another slightly to coerce us into rescinding our liberties to stop the dreaded lord covid in
8:06 pm
tracks, and then as winter turned to spring. doom morphed into determined warmth as rumours that a brand new novel treatment would soon be available to counter the brand new novel virus we were fighting. coincidence is a brilliant the relentless fear poll and streamed across our screens daily but in time even those messages of death slowly diminished as the confidence in this miracle cure to it all the seasons there remained stubbornly evil cohort of sceptics who held unspeakable and, untreatable, heretical views . ridiculous views like views. ridiculous views like lockdown was the most ridiculous idea in history, serving only to shatter the economy, as well as revealing dark echoes of a path towards a sinister authority and state power grab not seen in many generations or indeed other views deeply and honourably views deeply and honourably views like forcing people to cover their faces with dirty bits of cloth. so by
8:07 pm
opportunistic stake paid for witchdoctors at competitive pnces witchdoctors at competitive prices that would probably have limited efficacy given the microscopic size and ease of passage through almost any mask known to man other fools would announce for being still stupid enough to criticise the closing down of the entire education system for a bug that children swatted off as easily as cold. just to save granny and the worst . the absolute worst of worst. the absolute worst of these traitorous sods with the antsy might for voicing that the mandating of forced medical procedures upon fellow citizens was not only a violation of the nuremberg code, written for far darker tongues and knees, but also a state intrusion into individual as dangerous and destabilising as society could possibly be attempted. since dark days . fortunately, those dark days. fortunately, those who delighted in reaching into our lives , grabbing the levers our lives, grabbing the levers of our autonomy fought off. unfortunately for us, never lest
8:08 pm
we ever forget . we have the we ever forget. we have the receipts , the calls from those receipts, the calls from those not even ones we thought were on freedom's side, calling for mandatory vaccination of care. home workers, for example, doctors and nurses. and again , doctors and nurses. and again, children, anyone they could get their hands on to be close to job, gleefully turning you into a pincushion for your own good. we have those receipts also, and amount of twisting and turning and rewriting of history can change that. we will never forget . but let's put that part forget. but let's put that part of this dreadful international milgram experiment for a moment, shall we.7 deal milgram experiment for a moment, shall we? deal with the data which isn't screaming at you from every media channel and front page like it did in the dark days. excess deaths reach. nearly 3000 last week and haven't been this high since the so—called second wave of the so—called second wave of the so—called pandemic. this is fact. which us with one very uncomfortable truth. if the number of deaths of people dying
8:09 pm
now is in the same ballpark as the number of dying, when we locked the entire country down and society was all but stopped , then not only did none of the ridiculous measures put in place by this pitifully poor excuse for government make any difference. but it also means that if we just carried on as normal, never declared a pandemic and got on with our lives, would have lives, nothing would have changed. absolutely nothing . we changed. absolutely nothing. we wouldn't have wrecked the country. we'll facing inflation and cost of living, crisis at this pathetic regime. and it's bought paid for. media hacks are so to conveniently so desperate to conveniently blame war in ukraine. blame on the war in ukraine. anyone who pretends otherwise with the data now available is fraud. 3000 extra individual lives a week lost . 3000 bereaved lives a week lost. 3000 bereaved families . where's that wall of families. where's that wall of remembrance ? calm. oh yeah, you remembrance? calm. oh yeah, you got one. and now. you're conjuring up a new made up figures to say that just turning
8:10 pm
on the ignition of your car will kill a child. perhaps the acid rain soon to dissolve us all will wash away your wall of lies . yes people died. yes . deceit. yes people died. yes their lives mattered as does. but you sadiq khan, you politicise death in an inexcusable way. every lost life become another opportunity to steal from the free and give to the fearful. and we have the receipts and yet still , when the receipts and yet still, when the media report on this entirely predictable scenario and the now completely unfit for purpose national health service , they national health service, they will ooh and oh about statins. another big day for farmers and not one a surprise ambulance delays missed cancer diagnoses anything and everything except that miracle cure the one which bought wimbledon tennis together in standing innovation to the inventor of now quietly withdrawn from use . when we read withdrawn from use. when we read about the aftermath of covid, there is no media attention of
8:11 pm
there is no media attention of the so—called vaccine and the dark part it played in this play. it is obvious that any catastrophe is the product of a multitude of terrible decisions combining to create it. it is obvious that for a great many they were just trying to do the right thing and it is obvious that that that it easier to that that that it is easier to fool than convince them they have been fooled. but if these deaths don't give you pause , if deaths don't give you pause, if these lost lives don't matter you as much as the ones saved dunng you as much as the ones saved during this catastrophic, failed pubuc during this catastrophic, failed public health experiment . if public health experiment. if there no compassion in your there is no compassion in your heart, list of the heart, the growing list of the vaccine harmed on vaccine harmed. if, on reflection, can't see why reflection, you can't see why some of us feel so bitterly for an and honest debate over an open and honest debate over the issue, just for the issue, not just for ourselves and those we love, but for and those love , then for you and those you love, then all you are is a vessel, false virtue , a walking shadow , a poor virtue, a walking shadow, a poor player who and frets is our upon the stage and then is hurt. no more . covid was a tale told by more. covid was a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury
8:12 pm
signifying nothing . but before signifying nothing. but before anything else we wanted to ask you on an unrelated note , is the you on an unrelated note, is the royal family trying too hard to be woke and inclusivity? email your viewers at gb news or tweet 7 your viewers at gb news or tweet ? oh, me. lots of folks . are ? oh, me. lots of folks. are. so with 50,000 excess deaths in britain last year, the vast majority of which covid related, it's that the government who are usually deep in inquiries, reports and commissions, are yet to have launched an investigation. let's get knee deepin investigation. let's get knee deep in the numbers with stats formerly of the baroness jamie jenkins. good evening, jamie . jenkins. good evening, jamie. good evening, lawrence. how you doing ? good, thank you. why is doing? good, thank you. why is there been no investigation into there been no investigation into the excess deaths, do you think? well that is quite puzzling. i
8:13 pm
think if just to start from scratch, i suppose what excess death size you can look at, how many deaths you can see in the country in any particular week . country in any particular week. we tend to look at the pre—planned demick weeks now just see you've got, but just to see what you've got, but part the part of the part of the part of the explanation is a lot of explanations that need deciphering all of this. we're not going to get a conclusive answer here, but the part of the explanation is very 23. now we sell it comparing say, an sell it comparing to, say, an average the 2015 to 19 average over the 2015 to 19 period. so we take the last period. so if we take the last month because been month because it's been quite a large number of excess deaths, the we've seen about the last month we've seen about 11,000 deaths in the last 11,000 more deaths in the last four weeks than what we saw over that average of 2015 to 2019. now we do have a cohort of now we do have a large cohort of people after the second people born after the second world baby world war, post—war baby boomers. it in 75, 76, 77 year old, that's they would die more of those means you'd expect more deaths so of that 11th thousand that we see in the last four weeks. lawrence about 4000 that is explained by this kind of demographic shift that still leaves a massive number of 7000
8:14 pm
excess deaths in the last four weeks. and if we talked up 2022 and look across the year that and look across the year that and it was a tale of two halves we saw deaths below average up to about week 18 and then from week 19 up to the first two weeks of 2022, you know, you're 23,000 deaths now and. i think you're right. the government rishi sunak steve barclay seemed to be rather silent on this . if to be rather silent on this. if let's not discuss what's going , let's not discuss what's going, let's not discuss what's going, let's ignore. we used to get a daily press conference . now daily press conference. now what's going on with the number of deaths? 28 days of a covid test. but this one doesn't seem to be anything . want to touch to be anything. want to touch and talk about and exactly . and talk about and exactly. first of all, i'd like to ask, did anything happen, particularly between 18 and 19 of 2021? well, nothing. well i suppose that starts when you start looking at, you know, the nhs will be one factor in all of this. you you can't divorce the body, explain everything, but you start looking at the nhs
8:15 pm
performance , it was in may 2021. performance, it was in may 2021. we saw ambulance kind of call out for most life threatening calls started worsening , but calls started worsening, but they got even worse in 2022 and that's just the numbers that just for an example that you know they've got a seven minute target if you have a phone for an ambulance because you're literally on the floor, practically dying, there's a seven minute get you. seven minute target to get you. and they were pretty much hit in all then we went all of that. but then we went through of 2021 and through the back end of 2021 and 2022 december was fake. as 2022 and december was fake. as shocking as close to shocking in england, as close to 11 minutes now over 7 minutes. target you know, you're going to be dead before ambulance comes is 12 minutes in wales. now we also know , laurence, if you look also know, laurence, if you look at heart and people wait for heart treatment , then that's heart treatment, then that's been linked to some of these excess the number of excess deaths. the number of patients on the waiting lists for kind of heart treatment for a kind of heart treatment has increased% since before the pandemic . so you talked a little pandemic. so you talked a little bit in think in your monologue about shutting the country down. well the nhs did kind of put to side all of these treatments
8:16 pm
and. that policy itself will in some of these deaths and of not just the heart treatment issues, all the other things that have built up, which means more and more people are going to a&e because they, you know they stayed were told stayed away. they were told to protect means the protect the nhs. that means the systems are clogged as well. so even go there, the chance even if you go there, the chance of getting a bed is pretty much, you know, at nonexistent you know, at record nonexistent in your delay . that in terms of your delay. so that will a big factor in all will be a big factor in all this. that was the thing it did change from week 18 and 19 of last and has been last year and it has been getting worse and worse and worse but what i will worse. so but what i will probably get on people's go to, what they really want to know is such a such a perceptual overreaction to the pandemic and such an undue reaction to these lives. and, you know, we live in a world where apparently, you know, just saves one life. we must do something. but these lives seem to matter less. why do you think that is ? and that do you think that is? and that is the thing on all of this, because understanding what is going because for me is this new
8:17 pm
normal that we're talking about now . we get things every week. now. we get things every week. so is 2023 is going to be every single week excess deaths more than what you'd expect after accounting for all of these demographic shifts? now, there's going be some people going to be some people obviously showing at obviously probably showing at the we'll be talking the telly and we'll be talking now excess now and saying, well, excess deaths countries and deaths in other countries and all i've been talking about is the nhs. we have the nhs the nhs. we don't have the nhs in countries now. there in other countries now. there will care, will be disruption, health care, i'm other countries i'm sure in other countries there been people were there have been people who were staying lockdowns . staying away in the lockdowns. so be some of that. so there will be some of that. but if we start looking but i think if we start looking is some people who i think will mention, for example, that covid itself, covid itself, you have a covid infection lead to infection that can lead to complications in the longer term. now, some studies suggesting some other suggesting that some other studies is interesting. that's not case. so there's some not the case. so there's some confusion there. and the vaccination which vaccination rollout, which i think was talking about in your monologue of monologue that a lot of confusion well because . yeah. confusion as well because. yeah. can them can i can i raise can just them can i can i raise the elephant in the room that and to what extent do you think
8:18 pm
the vaccine injuries might contribute these excess deaths ? contribute these excess deaths? well, we do know that people have died from vaccination. this has been broadcast on tv. have died from vaccination. this has been broadcast on tv . and has been broadcast on tv. and it's now the official numbers suggest that there's only 60 have been linked to vaccinate . have been linked to vaccinate. you should know if you think that the age groups where we're seeing this excess lawrence is from week 19. we are seeing an elevated risk in people aged 35 to 54. it's about 8 to 10% above what you would expect now. they didn't really have any over this penod didn't really have any over this period , the vaccination rollout period, the vaccination rollout for them pretty much stopped as of january . so the next question of january. so the next question is, are these effects of delayed reactions to the vaccines in terms of longer term impacts? no. if you at sweden, they've got a higher proportion of their population who have been vaccinated than the uk and they've got very little excess deaths all now germany have got higher excess deaths. but when you look at the age groups there, there's fewer deaths in there, there's fewer deaths in the age groups, 50, 40 to 59, at
8:19 pm
least according i think we're sort agreeing that the whole thing is very complex picture with with with you know but when we're leaving out the vaccines in my view in terms of looking at that anyway , thank you, at that anyway, thank you, jamie, for being calm and measured and talking us through that. jamie jenkins and that. that's jamie jenkins and formerly owners . coming formerly of the owners. coming up next is burns night haggis and deep fried. i improved bucket .
8:22 pm
8:23 pm
chance to be on and talk about burns night i am joined by gb news is scott . reporter tony news is scott. reporter tony mcguire . tony what i mean what mcguire. tony what i mean what tell slides to audience i'm here in glasgow at the dockyard social where one of many many burdens are happening tonight there's a haggis we've our whisky it's a good night to be scottish what's haggis made out of . oh oh so scottish what's haggis made out of. oh oh so there's a you scottish what's haggis made out of . oh oh so there's a you know, of. oh oh so there's a you know, a lot of people say it is awful when you know it's technical to the truth, but mainly because using up various parts of the pegg and include things that you're not going to pick off a waitrose shelf anytime . soon and waitrose shelf anytime. soon and tell me what is sure surely robbie burns have been on council by now shouldn't they listen ? see you, jenny. i'm
8:24 pm
listen? see you, jenny. i'm telling you straight ahead the fight against barton's over the last five years. i mean that's here obviously there's the links to the slave trade but no no we are we're definitely standing behind our bards. he stole scotland's favourite son. i'm to be honest, you i think we should just let man rest . so why is just let man rest. so why is burns all about for us down here? what? what what are we celebrating here ? so today is as celebrating here? so today is as the bard's birthday and. you know earlier today i reporting from our way which was has his birthplace museum and burns night is celebrating the life and times and memory of robert burns and the recent moves to you know other mark against his name . it's not just having the name. it's not just having the that you know those kind of attacks and so a mark against
8:25 pm
this his legacy you know those who else the world when you think of a scottish one doesn't think of a scottish one doesn't think of a scottish one doesn't think of robbie burns gardens as a trend where the scottish culture and these kind of you know statements well i think were made you know in the best of intentions you know when you actually look deeper and on that instance precisely gardens never even went to jamaica for a job and plantation has forms gain started gaining some traction in scotland and like a lot of men before him he had the choice and his choice was quite simply to go to edinburgh instead . and he go to edinburgh instead. and he married his sweetheart, jane armour and the world hundred and 60 odd years later , i would say, 60 odd years later, i would say, is all the better for it. i got , i've got two very, very important questions for you. the first one is, are you wearing a kilt ? i'm no , i'm afraid i'll
8:26 pm
kilt? i'm no, i'm afraid i'll tell you something i didn't really fancy because i knew if i was wearing a kilt there be three questions. amory scotsman. and i don't think required before the watershed just yet. and i'm the second one being i'm getting married this summer. i'd rather test theory then . good rather test theory then. good man. and do you have a favourite robbie burns too to quote us to lead us out from the wonderful outlets favourite. you're in. i have some in my phone . i feel have some in my phone. i feel like i'm absolutely cheating as a flying scotsman . so what do a flying scotsman. so what do you mean? you've got it in your phone? oh, i think mark shakespeare all day long. i should . oh come on. i know it's should. oh come on. i know it's been, you know, spoke to i dressed in lassie yesterday and, you know, she was made a very good point. there is a part of our life as children, but as we grow older, it's not really until we go through. we bet more. and my favourite poem just to read, i couldn't quote it by
8:27 pm
heart is obviously thomas junta and where tom raises fearful steed meg over the and just the witches to take off our tail at the 11th hour. well i had no idea what the last sentence said meant but thank you very much, tony. i've been scotland land coming up more disturbing numbers of officers in the met appearing in court in the coming weeks . why is this been allowed weeks. why is this been allowed to happen? how can it be stopped ? does the met need . net zero by ? does the met need. net zero by 2030 .
8:30 pm
8:31 pm
we go to my next guest i asked you earlier is, the royal family trying too hard to be woke. remember to email your views gbnews.uk tweet or lots of gbnews.uk or tweet or lots of folks . a twitter user said yes , folks. a twitter user said yes, modernisation is good. just not too much. please. exactly are you going to be a little bit diverse, equitable and inclusive, but not too much because it makes want to be sick and says not sure . woke is the and says not sure. woke is the right word. weak is more like it. oh he doesn't know. yeah jemmy says so. everything you disagree with is woke then ? no, disagree with is woke then? no, i like with people. i just don't like disagreeing with people who refuse to engage with you. they just go, you're wrong. that's what i think, okay. it's like you're wrong. i'm not gong to engage you. it's like coming up to discussion. disagreement is the woke? only the opposite of woke? if only would have would disagree, we'd have something about . jean something to talk about. jean says and definitely says yes. yes and definitely yes. way to work . they're losing yes. way to work. they're losing their support to continue to exist. we want to see backbone, stamina. we do not chin. i miss
8:32 pm
that, pink says . what? visiting that, pink says. what? visiting schools, old people homes, veterans and hospitals. that's woke no paint. we're talking about fact that he's trying to have a diverse, equitable and inclusive coronation, which is don't in to that part of the that don't like the nations and let's face guys is there anything less than the royal family a hereditary monarchy . family a hereditary monarchy. well well , right now, up to well well, right now, up to three neck police officers will in court each week. brilliant over the next few months facing . criminal charges linked to dishonesty, sexual offences, violence or domestic violence . violence or domestic violence. the met is said to be making progress , removing hundreds of progress, removing hundreds of corrupt officers currently serving the force in the midst of the scandal. of course it now makes sense they'll be hiring 3000 more officers in a panic after firing a bunch of sex offenders hiring them to the offenders and hiring them to the same process . here with me same dodgy process. here with me to talk this through this madness is former divisional commander the met di commander in the met police di davis. di good evening. hello nice to see you. you too . has nice to see you. you too. has this been a long time coming?
8:33 pm
well it has been coming since the met police was formed in 1839. unfortunate leigh there's a barrel and it's leaking a little of late, some pretty rotten apples. but we have to remember over 130,000 officers, men and women in this barrel and, we're talking relatively still numbers nobody excuse is a kind of monster that we've seen or monsters we've seen of late and think we need to put it in some kind of perspective. that's what i'm saying. but if we suddenly had a high 3000 new one, should we not sort of update our background checks and stuff for new officers ? oh, stuff for new officers? oh, absolutely. i when i joined my home, had visit the sergeant came , my parents were vetted , i came, my parents were vetted, i think, even when i got married. so i'm 50 odd years ago. my wife's details and her family had to be vetted. that's how far we haven't come. and clearly something's gone horribly wrong
8:34 pm
. and as well as asking of so—called corrupt , we need to so—called corrupt, we need to ask questions of those incompetent at every level who . incompetent at every level who. allow this system to perpetuate whether it's the fact we got rid of 20,000 in the last x amount of 20,000 in the last x amount of years, we've quickly tried to . let's face it, we recruit from the public, but we deserve better. you and i deserve better from men and women who join the police, the met and others. but you know, also i would say, look, the 650 mps, if we're going to throw fingers and point fingers at these officers, let's actually look how many employees have been arrested for sexual offences how many of them have been put prison over the last ten years and this commissioner is playing with figures afraid and there's due process as to nobody in this country is guilty until found guilty and to actually say i'm going to put two or three corrupt officers great if he's got the evidence , great if he's got the evidence, i want to see that evidence and
8:35 pm
what charge out of so many so called there are and i think he's had the correct some of his figures. so i very you talk about woke i think this is a woke commissioner. do you think it's a woke police force? do you think it's a politicised police? do we need take the do you think we need to take the politics policing and return do you think we need to take the po policingpolicing and return do you think we need to take the po policing without and return do you think we need to take the po policing without fear return do you think we need to take the po policing without fear or urn to policing without fear or favour? oh, absolutely agree 100. that's when i joined back in the late sixties. we didn't have lot of this nonsense . have a lot of this nonsense. what was captains who'd what we had was captains who'd been to sea. they'd been throughout storms. unfortunately now we have a number of chief who frankly you wouldn't put in charge of a rowing boat. now alone a constable in charge of a force there's something fundamentally , and i've said on fundamentally, and i've said on a number of occasions now, 1960 was the last time we had a royal commission we need a royal commission we need a royal commission to define exactly who should lead the police force and, i'm afraid to say woke like i've been in many cases selecting. well, that's been going on virtually since ivory ,
8:36 pm
going on virtually since ivory, if i'm sorry to say. but that's very interesting. and thank you very interesting. and thank you very much for joining very interesting. and thank you very much forjoining me. very interesting. and thank you very much forjoining me . good very much forjoining me. good evening. coming up, do you want the traditional pomp and, pageantry or should monarchy keep up with the times ? reflect keep up with the times? reflect a wonderfully diverse equitable and inclusive society? find out after the .
8:39 pm
8:40 pm
televise the event for the whole commonwealth to watch . but come commonwealth to watch. but come on, it's 2023. so we've got to make it worthy in some way to justify the amount of money being spent on, plonking a crown on someone's head a royal on someone's head, a royal source the telegraph source told the daily telegraph coronation needed to be majestic but inclusive . love it to but inclusive. love it to reflect a diverse and modern britain . and for a modern britain. and for a modern britain, it's not enough to have a coronation filled with pomp and ceremony steeped in historical tradition. no, they've got to add a fleet of singers who truly represent this country. so bring on the best of british refugees and just an lgbtq. but i suppose spice element would be. now, that makes me proud . the question makes me proud. the big question is, really a diverse is, do we really a diverse coronation? and does the idea of diversity, inclusive equity and inclusivity fundamentally what it means to be . david the royal it means to be. david the royal family isn't very inclusive at all. i mean , you know, even all. i mean, you know, even something as dim prince harry realised that was a hierarchy,
8:41 pm
but it was actually a hierarchy in this thing that you're not born free and equal. if you're royal, it's a complete and catharsis of that. it's also in one sense, the antithesis of modern. it is the embody literally of our history . now, literally of our history. now, i happen to think that history is also the basis of modern other words, past and present, separated and the act of monarchy . the queen dies. the monarchy. the queen dies. the king's the seamless transition is exactly how change should happen and should be embodied in the coronation. mean. my problem is that it all sounds as though it's going to be it's going to be a bit like the jubilee concert still was the opening of the 2012 olympics. you know it's going to be the you know a die it looks now a mockery this wonderful thing called the nhs. what are they going to do. we're joined by the coronation. all we're going how are we going to have doctors, nurses prancing up
8:42 pm
the aisle of westminster abbey? ideas when they've all gone, when they've all gone on strike? let me turn. when they've all gone on strike usually. isn't it rather awkward we've got come, we've come. we let . of course. we've come. we let. of course. of course. femi i can ask you a question . how can you make , question. how can you make, like, hereditary monarchy diverse ? i mean. well, you can't diverse? i mean. well, you can't one really. i mean, the reality the royal family is well, the one way you could make hereditary monarchy diverse is for someone within that monarchy to marry someone who was not white, which happened and look at them huge class that has had racially diverse or other types of diverse economic backgrounds . diversity is kind of i mean, i hate have said it on bbc before bonng hate have said it on bbc before boring like diversity is in here it's not actually actually chaps just to interrupt quickly the monarchy so far ahead us do you actually realise that two of the sons of edward the third black in the 14th century, married
8:43 pm
families of muslim descent and louis the king has actually got a right to be caliph if he came in quite seriously. they marry the daughters of pedro, the cruel, who on one side of his family is of muslim descent and jewish descent. i mean, can we be serious or right from the reality of them is the monarchy as an institution is as has been said in many ways , said in many ways, representative of modern britain. but that's not necessarily a good thing to have an institution which is represent entity of hierarchy, representative of having someone be seen as being better than someone else, simply by virtue of family are born into of which family are born into and where within that family they're born into. the royal family up until i think the 1960s or seventies refused to let ethnic minorities work in front facing roles in palace. it was a policy which was shown through documents to be active policy, saying we're not letting ethnic minorities work seven days, we're turning 23. well,
8:44 pm
the seventies is between these two coronations. we are two coronations. so if we are harking back to the fifties, harking back to the fifties, harking back to the fifties, harking back to the last coronation and saying things need as work need to be as they work traditionally, then we're harking before harking back to before the seventies the seventies tradition. one of the main that will say is main things that will say is that in order to change, we have to preserve. we have to cling to tradition in order to make actual change. the tradition of the monarchy used to be to cut off the monarch's wife's head . off the monarch's wife's head. the traditions of the monarchy are very old. you have very funny view of history . monarchy funny view of history. monarchy usually you made just one second. you've actually made a complete you made a completely sound point, except you've got in the wrong way round real conservative like disraeli believed that this is a progressive country , that there progressive country, that there has to be constant change. that's what real concern you're talking about. reaction. i'm not a reactionary lawrence isn't a reactionary. we're conservatives. we believe in real . and to preserve you need real. and to preserve you need to change. but you need to change it in accordance with tradition . now, the problem with
8:45 pm
tradition. now, the problem with your position to begin with. so i shouldn't be rude. i it just just habit and the problem with your position to begin saying we shouldn't have your hereditary or whatever means we shouldn't have a monarchy at all. now, if you were honest, what you would be saying is you'd much rather that wasn't a king, and that was much rather that wasn't a coronation. not to say i'm going to be my brother. that wasn't a king. i'd much rather wasn't king. i'd much rather it wasn't a then you a coronation. then why are you here? to comment on the coronation? because. coronation? well, because. because a king , and because there is a king, and there will be a coronation. and will be by a load of will be watched by a load of people to say, i personally , not people to say, i personally, not a monarchist, it doesn't mean whether or not when this when this event occurs, when the diamond jubilee occurred, when the queen's funeral occurred, they still consequences. it's still something which football games were cancelled . i was at games were cancelled. i was at my new fund. i'd still be annoyed a republican annoyed whether i'm a republican or there is or monarchist. yes, there is a an extent . which part of this is an extent. which part of this is an extent. which part of this is a pr exercise ? the monarchy has a pr exercise? the monarchy has had a lot of controversy as of
8:46 pm
late around issues to do with it not being progressive enough , not being progressive enough, not being progressive enough, not being progressive enough, not being sorry, can i just interrupt a second and it to me that the monarchy have said absolutely nothing whilst to attention seeking media hounds have just berated and diminished and demolished it. i mean you were told about having a more progressive monarchy in the inviting. we keep talking about meghan markle's race, but you know whole the fact the know this whole the fact the monarchy has remained stoic while it's been attacked and attacked in fact if you look at any british monarchy, it's plenty of things over the years princess michael of kent was known to go into a bar the in the states and say back to the colonies, to a bunch of african—american , prince philip african—american, prince philip told people and students , china, told people and students, china, if you stay here too long, you'll get slitty. as i say, the monarchy has made plenty of comments over the years which which which can allow me to say that members of royal family perhaps don't have the best
8:47 pm
attitude to people of human beings attitude of their own times . beings attitude of their own times. philip philip was born virtually with the century and of course , older people use of course, older people use different languages . and it just different languages. and it just seems to me to be illnesses . so seems to me to be illnesses. so this centred now centred to demand that they change. but can we again just take a point? make a point seriously? the monarchy actually seems , to a dangerous actually seems, to a dangerous extent, to accommodate itself to people like you. the problem is that far as i can see, people with your attitude, the problem is that woke appeals to people who don't want the monarchy. you've already admitted this. in other words , the monarchy is other words, the monarchy is forgetting those who really do support it, which would say is the great solid of the british people, and instead it's trying to appeal to those who don't. you know what? let me ask let me ask david a question. i take it it's the case that people from
8:48 pm
different use different language shouldn't apologise for it. why did you apologise? i'm one of those blacks in in this those dumb blacks in in this video a while ago. and you apologise and i apologise. all right, let me explain. you and i opposed it. of course, i'm perfectly happy to know. just one second. i'm choosing moral lines, please just one second. i'm hugely happy to explain . i i'm hugely happy to explain. i apologised because used a stupidly wrong word in the wrong context. is that what prince philip did when he said no , philip did when he said no, prince philip was you to philip using a different kind of language all. i as somebody who's usually in absolute control of language and understand it because , i was understand it because, i was tired because irritated because i thought the fact that we were getting into this to this stew about , the murdering of about, the murdering of a policeman in america or policemen don't murder here. and the blacks, he didn't murder anybody, wasn't depressed enough . but let's get back to the really important thing. the point i made was you appealed the bloke and you're appealing to those who want monarchy to those who don't want monarchy . it's a contradiction and it's
8:49 pm
an and it's a pr people just inserting against the monarchy and they will be told against it. they've already turned against you . young people are against you. young people are turning against the monarchy because they don't want an archaic institution which represents hierarchy , which represents hierarchy, which represents hierarchy, which represents colonialism . the only represents colonialism. the only thing to do is abolish it. so one assume crown with a huge big diamond from india , calling diamond from india, calling themselves the empress of india, saying king world. can saying king of the world. can i ask you question for a good ask you question for me a good faith question ? does that faith question? does that massive history, which is held together, like you say, by hierarchical system, which is passed down through generation to generation, does that not also come with some benefits, some benefits in the development of language, in the passing on of language, in the passing on of wisdom in the development of culture? now, we have a woke wall seemingly in culture. but is there nothing be taken from the past that we seek? i think this is a rule not necessarily from institute. oh, but once again it is the embodiment of engush again it is the embodiment of english freedom. look what the
8:50 pm
king. yes, listen to me. while the king is going to do, he's going to swear in the key section underneath summary that you call it. he's going to swear three oaths. and these oaths of , the basis of your freedom and my freedom, the first oath is that he will, according to the laws made in parliament, the second is that he will keep peace between his people and the church. and the third is to do justice in truth and mercy . now, justice in truth and mercy. now, those this is what the coronation is about and should be about as long. just one second, please , just let me second, please, just let me finish. and then i am perfectly happy to shut up because i've said all i want to say. what the coronation should about is saying that those three things, the idea of justice, you talking about the metropolitan police , about the metropolitan police, it's in ruin. the idea of governing according to parliament has been wrecked because we are ruled by sage and we're ruled by specialist committees and our people as our guest has been illustrating
8:51 pm
brilliantly , are at each other's brilliantly, are at each other's throats what the monarchy should be doing is using this weight of power the power of symbolism , of power the power of symbolism, of history and tradition to say we need look afresh at how we are governed. there is a terrible problem. the coronation rather than being an occasion for simply frivolity and nonsense prancing nhs nurses should be about addressing these utterly fundamental issues which our politicians want and with the weight that attaches to the institution, the king could say this needs doing is a lot. i can ask you a question for me . is ask you a question for me. is there anything positive that you can you take out of the coronation and briefly out of all of this, let's do something like to see that. well, let's let's let's look at it realistically. there's this double standard going on the history of the monarchy is a history of the monarchy is a history of the monarchy is a history of absolute power. and
8:52 pm
when we today today when we look so when we look today at a regime of north korea and we look at hereditary power being handed from father to son to father to republic. so are effectively a republic on coronation. you're talking about monarchy and i'm trying to answer the question very simple answer. yes you don't get around about anything positive as as has historically been doing you you've been getting directly the point he's been talking about. allow me to forgive me . yes. allow me to forgive me. yes. when you have . but when we see when you have. but when we see that in other parts the world it's dictatorship . it's awful. it's dictatorship. it's awful. what we've had in the uk is now that's supposedly symbolic now they supposedly don't have any real power after the english civil war, the monarchs were back cut off transfers back after we cut off transfers head. she might grow back in a symbolic way. so supposedly on one hand, it's all symbolic. they don't have any real power. so we're not a dictator otherwise. other hand, otherwise. on the other hand, supposedly have a power supposedly they do have a power
8:53 pm
and secure our freedom this and they secure our freedom this is institution represents is an institution represents someone the country and someone ruling the country and ruling other countries. jamaica zealand, australia because of who that father was. that's the base of it. my mother was this my mother. well mean the mother was kicked out on all night and there's a lot of neatly little mini rings from both everybody anyway thank him very very very much. to my guests, dr. and femi lying on her right now, quickly, it's lying on her right now, quickly, wsfime lying on her right now, quickly, it's time on the spot. let's hear what you're going to ask me. tesla. tesla, telsa says, what do you have for dinner? you saw my tweet about my dinner last night. can someone find me a wife? thank you. carol said, where did you get your where did your tie go? long mocked up for that and then disappeared. you can blame she's over that can blame cash she's over that she podcast sharon hours can she did podcast sharon hours can i fox you better only i call you a fox you better only if you marry me. and that was on the spot sending in your the spot sending them in your views gb news. you to views at gb news. thank you to all my tonight and thank you for
8:54 pm
joining. up next is the glorious dan wootton. dom, what do you got for us? good evening, lawrence. show . we've got lawrence. great show. we've got lots coming up today. actually, katherine why has she katherine will say why has she quit as the government's social mobility tsar shall we were failing all. plus tom bower on the latest pressure that king charles is coming under when it comes to harry and meghan and lady victoria harvey. she is, of course , ex girlfriend of prince course, ex girlfriend of prince andrew, but also remains his biggest defender. now she thinks the narrative is shifting around prince , especially after charles prince, especially after charles moore , the former daily moore, the former daily telegraph editor, wrote that front page column in his old newspaper to say that he thinks prince andrew may be . so we'll prince andrew may be. so we'll be hearing from lady b about all of the evidence that she's picking up from alan dershowitz on what is becoming a fascinating and intriguing case. lawrence tells absolutely amazing. i can't to see it. thank you all my guests tonight. and thank to you for watching
8:55 pm
and stay with don because he's a legend. see you later tomorrow . legend. see you later tomorrow. hello there , greg hurst and hello there, greg hurst and welcome to your latest broadcast. rain quickly clearing some of the areas the next few hours then we've got a patchy frost developing tonight but that will lead to plenty of sunny spells for thursday. looking the bigger picture, looking at the bigger picture, high dominates high pressure still dominates the weather pattern. this front clear south over the next few hours. we're looking a hours. then we're looking at a largely as we head largely dry day as we head through day on thursday. through the day on thursday. thanks of high thanks that area of high pressure for the evening time. that rain just the far south and then turning starry for many of us as we head into the early hours. the risk of a few showers across northern scotland running down the east coast at times, but otherwise plenty of clear spells tonight the spells. cold tonight across the north of the uk .
8:59 pm
nofice notice no bias, no censorship. i'm wootton tonight a rapist locked up a women's prison and afghan murder. a lesson to the country to kill an aspiring marine and yet only a handful of brave lawmakers like tory lee anderson and the snp's joanna cherry are daring to speak out . cherry are daring to speak out. i'm very concerned about the safety of women prisoners with whom convicted rapist has been placed . tonight i say it is time placed. tonight i say it is time for our politicians to wake and realise this great country is being corrupted by liberal agendas before more innocent brits pay with their lives by. just next. then i'll get my superstore panel to weigh in. joining me tonight, dawn neesom adam brooks and ashley james. and another dispatch from the war on women. i'll be asking, is rowling phobia on the rise . at
9:00 pm
rowling phobia on the rise. at 1022, harry potter authors, friend and fellow activist maya forced acid discusses the relent list and terrifying attempts to silence. arguably britain's most prolific women's rights campaigner as boris back you mps and truss loyalists form a coalition united by hostility to rishi sunak. does the so called bullies club provide the pm a genuine threat or do they simply risk dividing? tories will debate in the media the ten. with only three months left to go royal biographer tom bower issues a stark warning to the palace . they are running out of palace. they are running out of time to stop . and meghan time to stop. and meghan hijacking the coronation of his call to action coming 935 and as their popularity plummets stateside, should the sussexes be welcomed back if america rejects them, i'll get your verdict as diana butler, paul burrell and royal commentator, youtube ap diana and podcast host dax battle it out at 920, then prince andrew's
46 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
TV-GBN Television Archive Television Archive News Search ServiceUploaded by TV Archive on