it's thursday night and this is by raj atwal . long from the by raj atwal. long from the drawing . please welcome your drawing. please welcome your host , nigel drawing. please welcome your host, nigel ferrer. good evening . karen crowley . hello, prempeh. . karen crowley. hello, prempeh. can we still we'll be talking about that . we're careful. we'll about that. we're careful. we'll be asking all of the tories down. i will be joined until good times by none other than katie price. well, all of that.

let's continue with polly middlehurst . nigel, thank you. middlehurst. nigel, thank you. and good evening to you. the top story on gb news tonight, the former chancellor nadhim zahawi has given hmrc approval to release files relating to his tax affairs to the independent investor data. it follows the tax accounts. chief executive jim harra telling mps there are no penalties for innocent errors after being questioned by the pubuc after being questioned by the public accounts committee . the public accounts committee. the tory party chairman zahawi is facing calls to resign after it emerged he had paid a penalty fee to hmrc while he was chancellor the prime minister says no issues were raised with him personally when he appointed zahawi to his cabinet role because nadhim zahawi himself put a statement into the public domain and there was other reporting. there are questions to answer and that's why i asked the independent adviser to conduct an investigation to fully establish the facts and provide to me about provide advice to me about

nadhim compliance of the nadhim zahawi compliance of the ministerial code . and he's away ministerial code. and he's away from home. at least 11 people have died in russian missile strikes in ukraine a day after the united states and germany pledged to supply the country with tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. more than ten were wounded in the attacks , which wounded in the attacks, which covered 11 regions, including the capital kyiv. germany defence minister says he expects the first leopard 2 tanks to arrive in ukraine by the end of march , as all the uk's march, as all the uk's challenges to tanks. russia has responded with the kremlin, saying deliveries of military hardware amounted to direct in fulfilment in the conflict by the west . scotland's first the west. scotland's first minister has confirmed a transgender person convicted of rape will not be sent to an all female prison. earlier this week , isla bryson was found guilty of raping two women before choosing to change his gender to female . at first minister's female. at first minister's questions, nicholas sturgeon addressed the row on whether

bryson should be held at the female court in vale prison . she female court in vale prison. she also confirmed a risk assessment has been carried out by the scottish prisons service . andrew scottish prisons service. andrew bridgen has threatened to sue the former health secretary for defamation . following an online defamation. following an online post, he retweets it about the covid post, he retweets it about the covm jab. this post, he retweets it about the covid jab. this month, the north—west leicestershire mp was stripped of the tory whip after retweeting a post by a consultant cardiologist which said the number of people suffering with heart problems after the covid vaccine was the biggest crime against humanity since the holocaust. matt hancock referred to that as antisemitic in the house of commons. a statement bridgen has refuted . and lastly, the king refuted. and lastly, the king has been given a warm welcome dunng has been given a warm welcome during his first visit to the new africa centre in south london . his majesty spoke to london. his majesty spoke to staff and visitors and heard how the centre provided a home away from home for africans living in the uk. the new building is a 1960s former office block that has been transformed into a

community hub for african culture and heritage . that's culture and heritage. that's what he is back now to farage lodge in crawley . lodge in crawley. that evening we are here at the three bridges football club in crawley . well, as we spend some crawley. well, as we spend some time here. the cabinet today have been at chequers . yes, have been at chequers. yes, they've been getting ready for they've been getting ready for the next general election . gb the next general election. gb news polling today suggests the tories are now 29 points behind labour and behind on economic competence . they and every other competence. they and every other major issue. a poll of three key constituencies in the last 48 hours could not name . when the hours could not name. when the voters were asked a single major achievement of this government. they are in trouble and i don't think the name zahawi is

necessarily helping them very much. i do doubt that anybody offered to pull the coffee for him at chequers this morning. is he the boss of hmrc.7 had a real go at him today. he said we do not give penalties , tax not give penalties, tax penalties to people who've made innocent mistakes . oh dear. not innocent mistakes. oh dear. not looking very prissy yet. he's still in position. well with that lovely introduction , please that lovely introduction, please let us say a big hello to henry smith, conservative member of parliament for crawley. thank you for joining parliament for crawley. thank you forjoining . us let's start you forjoining. us let's start with a big picture fast and i mean this constituency was a labour seat from 97 to 2010. when you won it. local politics here with the borough council. i think labour have a majority of one at the moment. so this is very much an important swing seat. crawley goes at the seat. how crawley goes at the next election may well determine who gets the majority in parliament. how confident are you as you look ahead to the

next election for keeping this seat.7 well you're absolutely right. in america, would right. in america, they would call bellwether seat. it call this a bellwether seat. it always has gone with whoever has gone form government of gone to form the government of the day. and the polls aren't looking good at all. and i think a lot of the yards looking good that we. well, i'm trying to underline be diplomatic. nigel a lot of the seat majority that was won just three years ago, frankly, has been squandered so much more could have been done. of course, we've had the covid pandemic, but nevertheless , i pandemic, but nevertheless, i think there have been a lot of opportunities that have been missed. and so it's little wonder that given everything that's happened, particularly in the polls are the last year, the polls are showing are. so now showing what they are. so now it's not looking good at the moment. but i also think you need to look at the alternative and there's nothing that keir starmer is saying or he's not saying anything really in terms of policies or let alone in how to spend money, taxpayers money on whatever those policies are.

so yes, the government does need to be accountable after 12 years in office , but also questions in office, but also questions need to be asked about what is the alternative on those key issues. well, from what we know, i mean, frankly , i can't spot i mean, frankly, i can't spot the difference . i mean, in terms the difference. i mean, in terms of i mean, you will policy has become anti small business pro big government and putting all taxes up to levels. i mean those that are working are paying more and more tax for a larger number of people who are choosing not to work. well, there was this statistic out, i think it was yesterday that showed that there are fewer people in that are fewer people paying in that are fewer people paying in that are out from the system. are taking out from the system. and isn't and obviously that isn't sustainable. you know, my political instincts are for lower taxation . i think if you lower taxation. i think if you tax people less , you create tax people less, you create economic growth, create more economic growth, you create more jobs, therefore you create jobs, and therefore you create more and ironically, more more wealth and ironically, more tax . take. surprise, surprise . tax. take. surprise, surprise. so i'm not happy with the level of taxation that we have in this country at this moment in time . country at this moment in time. you're right that to give your

chancellor a good kicking. but i don't you're in i'm i'm more i'm all in favour of giving jeremy hunfs all in favour of giving jeremy hunt's good kicking. well, there we are. happy. oh, that's right . that's. oh, you'll get to regret coming on this bus. that's my job on behalf of these good people . final big policy good people. final big policy thought , good people. final big policy thought, what happens in dover impacts everywhere around the country , including crawley. you country, including crawley. you see migrant hotels in crawley, people are not happy about it. they see it as being grossly unfair. do you, in your heart of hearts , think rishi sunak is hearts, think rishi sunak is going to stop the boats.7 well now you're in the business of understatements because people are more than not happy about the situation and people are furious about the situation , and furious about the situation, and rightly so. a nation should be able to defend its own borders, and we can't have people come into this country unchecked. 40,000 last year. it's not sustainable and part of the

problem is, yes, enforcement . problem is, yes, enforcement. but the big problem is the system. we have a lot of that is the european court of human rights , where activist lawyers rights, where activist lawyers should be if we don't if we if we don't leave it, we should certainly carve out sections which apply to immigration. back to my question , is rishi going to my question, is rishi going to my question, is rishi going to stop the boats.7 he's got this plan that he announced at the beginning of the year. so the boats we've got we've got the military now patrolling the beaches. military now patrolling the beaches . but the point is, military now patrolling the beaches. but the point is, is if the law is used to say that those people entering this country illegally can play the system and can get involved in appeal after appeal, system and can get involved in appeal after appeal , then the appeal after appeal, then the situation won't be solved. and therefore it does need legals. i know, henry. i know . therefore it does need legals. i know, henry. i know. i know. i don't disagree with your sentiments. thank you for coming on. we're going to get you back in a few minutes to talk about gatwick and smith. thank you for joining us. now.

gatwick and smith. thank you for joining us. now . please take the joining us. now. please take the view as a channel and i take the view there are too many young kids spending their lives on iphones and laptops in their bedroom , not getting out, bedroom, not getting out, playing sport , being outside, playing sport, being outside, doing things. playing sport, being outside, doing things . and that's where doing things. and that's where some of like three bridges football club comes in. it's been here since 1901. it's an amateur football club in the isthmian league. it's got a youth section, 400 youngsters who come here and play football. but they could make this place so much better. i'm very , very so much better. i'm very, very pleased that paul faily, the chairman of three bridges, has joined me. paul what is it you need three pitch for during nigel that's what it is. but it's a it's £1,050,000 of the sg pitch . the foundation have been pitch. the foundation have been amazing . they're fighting the amazing. they're fighting the football foundation. incredible but that's what we need. we want to get the kids here. so if you have a 3g yes, you can have a 3g pitch, yes, you can play have a 3g pitch, yes, you can play on that pitch. 24 seven 365 days a year. yeah. so it's a 3g pitch predominantly takes it

from we can only project nine months of the year that's if it's not snowing, if it's not icy and you know the weather in the last weeks have been the last few weeks have been horrendous. yeah. a days horrendous. yeah. so a few days so effectively we need to pitch how we can continue to plan it. but the most important thing i do is to get the kids on it because the kids are having to go elsewhere out of the town to actually train. and when you're talking until kids are talking about until the kids are seven, eight, nine years old, whose and got to whose mum and dad have got to get there. so it's really get them there. so it's really important to us we can get important to us that we can get them all in a safe, enclosed area with good coach in help area with good coach in and help the that could you the kids that way. could you i mean, from the ones that mean, apart from the ones that are up to three bridges. are signed up to three bridges. yeah local schools come and yeah good local schools come and use right. so there's two use that. right. so there's two schools at the moment that don't even playing field. it's even have playing field. it's just unbelievable. it's unreal. but always but i mean, we were always brought up on the you'd have a sort session that sort of a double session that you'd have games outside the athletics in the summer football, rugby, cricket, eccentric, on eccentric, etc. we grew up on that. they in that. however, today they put in schools x office blocks and schools in x office blocks and yeah, and effectively those schools don't have any prime

facilities at all. we want them here . well, let me ask the here. well, let me ask the audience , are you convinced by audience, are you convinced by paups audience, are you convinced by paul's argument that a 3g pitch here would make the lives of kids in crawley better? is he right? yeah well, we think he's right, too, and that's why i. that's why we're getting behind you.thank that's why we're getting behind you. thank you. and this club we've written to crawley borough council saying this could be a really, really good thing, but we've gone further than that. oh, i've got one or two people who are supporting this campaign. matt latisha yeah. oh, he says . well, i wholeheartedly he says. well, i wholeheartedly support three bridges application for a 3g pitch. i'll choose match , terry butcher . all choose match, terry butcher. all i'm just not really oh april said it would be wonderful to have a new 3g football pitch and the benefits that would give to crawley . jason cundy says briley

crawley. jason cundy says briley m's idea i wish i'd had it when iwas a m's idea i wish i'd had it when i was a kid, but here's the one that's going to bowl you over. we have a video now we're going to show you from peter and steph shelton. oh, yes , i have one. shelton. oh, yes, i have one. steph and myself would like to offer our support to nigel for his campaign for the west city football team. three bridges to get a three football pitch . this get a three football pitch. this will be absolutely amazing . will be absolutely amazing. zing. and it will help like hundreds if not thousands of children's lives with regards to their health and wellbeing . their health and wellbeing. there we are. how about that ? there we are. how about that? great. thank you, simon. well you know what? thanks to. oh, thanks to the national who you know, gb news we want to be the people's channel tomorrow . local people's channel tomorrow. local clubs like this run by volunteers like yourself. you've been around for over 100 years. there's so much more to show.

but my notes go big up, have his half pipe around . we're right half pipe around. we're right behind you and i hope those endorsements make the local council sit up and thank and we wish you really, really well . wish you really, really well. thank you. thank you very much . thank you. thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much. thank you so much. in a moment, we will talk in a moment. we will talk about the proposed pretty substantial expansion to gatwick airport and the arguments for and against. back with you in a couple of minutes . right .

welcome back to crawling. now all infrastructure projects are controversial social, but

airport infrastructure expansions and new builds are even more controversial . gatwick even more controversial. gatwick in 2019, that's the last normal year before they locked us all down. for some reason had nearly 50 million passenger travellers in and out of the airport. but there is a big proposed expansion of gatwick. it would include using the northern runway, which at the moment is just used for taxiing and emergencies. and the plan is by 2048, 50 million travellers a year would become 80 million travellers. a year. that is what is on the dax. and unsurprisingly , communities unsurprisingly, communities again at gatwick noise emissions . and liz lockwood is a committee member of it all to happy liz is gatwick liveable as it currently is ? it's tough but it currently is? it's tough but it's liveable . yes we've we've it's liveable. yes we've we've had a lot of increase over the last well before after 2019 nothing but up to 2019. there's

been a steady increase in the amount of air traffic and surface traffic as well on the trains and roads. so we've we've pretty much reached our limit, i feel . well, the plan, of course, feel. well, the plan, of course, here is to expand and use the northern runway. it's to upgrade road , it's to upgrade rail links road, it's to upgrade rail links so that it can cope with this increased volume of people. i mean, isn't the truth of it if you're worried about the noise from gatwick airport, maybe you shouldn't have moved here in the first place. i've lived here for 30 years and i moved here knowing full well that when gatwick had the potential to increase it might well do that . increase it might well do that. but i think you're slightly mistaken, nigel, in the terms that you've just said that gatwick would expand and it would increase the infrastructure to cope with the additional traffic. and in the current proposals for the development consent order, there's nothing in there about

what they're going to do to increase the capacity of the m23 , which, as we all know, is full, or that train line that goes up through the bottleneck up to is quite good , which we up to is quite good, which we all know is really full and actually. all right. so that's right. let's say that the m23 became a los angeles style six lanes each way . and let's say lanes each way. and let's say the railway line was upgraded. would you then object to this? yes, because i think it's the quality of life as well . so it's quality of life as well. so it's about a 30 mile radius from the airport where people are impacted by noise and emissions , as well as the surface traffic as well. so that's that's got a big impact on everybody's lives. yes. that's right. yeah, i get that. yes. that's right. yeah, i get that . and i can see you've got that. and i can see you've got legitimate complaints, but can i ask ? i generally find campaign ask? i generally find campaign groups like yours have a bigger motive , which actually is to motive, which actually is to stop us flying as much as we do.

oh, absolutely not. in fact, we have a campaign that is a pledge to fly less and less , just fly to fly less and less, just fly less, not to stop flying . why less, not to stop flying. why should we fly less? well, it's a company of reasons. firstly that people who are flying now are being done. flying at taxpayers expense. they're being subsidised by the fact that aircraft aircraft businesses don't pay vat, which is more fuel duty just because you don't, but just because you don't, but just because you don't put a tax on isn't exactly a tax cut, is it? but that's that's quite a signifier. can't amount of the expenditure the. oh and i've lost my thread now. i mean basically whenever i've met your campaign groups you're saying that because of climate change we must fly less? is that what your group say? yes i think that's yes , that's an that's right, yes, that's an honest answer. got to what honest answer. we got to what i thought we would and i understand the genuine sincerity with which you made it. i would point out to you that aviation

contributes about 2% of global carbon dioxide , which i don't carbon dioxide, which i don't think is a very significant amount. but i do get your points about local noise and inconvenience. yes and take it a little bit further that whilst that figure might seem relatively , you know, low other relatively, you know, low other forms of transport have been improved . if they're sustainable improved. if they're sustainable methods, fast , the aircraft have methods, fast, the aircraft have so it is getting we've got electric cars, for example , electric cars, for example, electric cars, for example, electric aeroplanes are really not a thing for. no, i don't think that's happening very quickly. i would agree with you on that. well, there's lockwood .thank on that. well, there's lockwood . thank you for coming on and making the argument targeting much . of anybody living anywhere much. of anybody living anywhere in the country. that's anywhere near a major airport knows about these problems. my grandparents had a house on the a23 in horley just just down the road. so i saw it as a kid has got wake up

as you're in busia. there were these inconveniences henry smith mp liz lockwood does make some valid points about just how busy traffic is, etc. imagine that's the same all over the country with an exploding population. where do you stand as the local mp on this? and it is quite a substantial proposed expansion . substantial proposed expansion. well, i think we saw in the covid pandemic just how vital government was to the local economy when people weren't able to fly the impact on jobs and the broader economy was really quite significant. and as nationally, we're an island trading nation, we rely on those international connections . so international connections. so the idea that we should be flying less, i think, is a non—starter. and gatwick is very important. what i do think that this country can be in the forefront of, we're beginning to see this with the jet zero council, the government have launched a couple of years ago is that we can be at the forefront of aviation technology

in terms of providing technological solutions to reducing the carbon emissions from aircraft and b and b, leaders in sustainable aviation fuels . also air space modernised fuels. also air space modernised and just had a meeting earlier on today with the people who are looking at airspace modernisation, using gps to make sure we're flying much more sure that we're flying much more efficiently that we can efficiently means that we can continue flying . being important continue flying. being important for the economy as a trading nafion for the economy as a trading nation and local communities strongly like the feel strongly for this expansion . i don't i'm for this expansion. i don't i'm not in favour of gatwick expanding its physical limits, its boundaries, but they do have a proposal to grow their business by using the standby runway for shorter domestic and near european flights . so near european flights. so i think if they can grow their business within their current footprint , then i think that's footprint, then i think that's actually a win win. final thought , as actually a win win. final thought, as you drive from the m25 down the m23, it's about how big and communist china there are cameras everywhere. yes,

steady on. no. so there's that one that i know it is that bad, actually. you know what? it is not bad. and very often there's a 50 mile an hour limit for ups locally. no reason whatsoever. and you're going along at six in the morning doing 56 more people getting speeding tickets than ever before. big brother , big ever before. big brother, big state, no hard shoulder , people state, no hard shoulder, people being held and the conservative government call these motorways smart. is that how you just and the truck with the variable speed limits if it says 60 people actually start doing 40 and it starts having a detrimental effect , i'm not detrimental effect, i'm not convinced by smart motorways . i convinced by smart motorways. i mean, i've been driving for over 35 years. when i was started driving, we had hard shoulders and i think they're very important for emergency vehicles. if people break down highways. england tell me, well, we've got the technology now to assist people straight away. and if you make sure people are on motorways and not on smaller roads, then accidents overall

reduce . i think the jury's out reduce. i think the jury's out on that one. and i do think we need to have a review of the way small this particular jury members made his mind up. but henry smith thank thank henry smith thank you. thank you.thank henry smith thank you. thank you. thank now one last you. thank you. now one last quick point. since one last quick point. since one last quick point. since one last quick point in this segment of the programme over the last few years, there'll be many people pointing the finger at the world economic forum , say they've got economic forum, say they've got these evil plans for our future . and one of them is we'd all be forced to eat insects , absolute forced to eat insects, absolute non sense. i thought that until now and i am not making this up . two days ago the european union, the european commission has given permission for insects to be added to a list of foods. the european commission has passed it. these will be one of thatis passed it. these will be one of that is domestic crickets . they that is domestic crickets. they will on the labelling of the food. it will say i shutter domestic. so we will understand

fully what that means. obviously and that will include the addition into foodstuffs of multigrain bread , cereal, bras, multigrain bread, cereal, bras, cookies , pizza, chocolate cookies, pizza, chocolate products. we are about to have mass produced insect eats put into our food . the european into our food. the european commission have approved it. it needs to go through the european parliament. but given at the moment this country has kept itself aligned to eu food standards, i'd say it's time for a proper break. brexit. i don't want locusts for my breakfast. i'll be back with you in a couple of minutes .

and well, want long? it's always,

always the case. wherever we go, we get members of the public to come and ask me questions. all i have is their name. i. i've no idea what they're going to ask me. let's kick off then. good evening . what would you like to evening. what would you like to ask? evening , evening. what would you like to ask? evening, nigel. ask? good evening, nigel. mine is same as a lot of is probably the same as a lot of people all think very people all around think very concerned about the people coming across the channel to get asylum . i wonder when it's ever asylum. i wonder when it's ever going to be safe to walk in town again after dark. going to be safe to walk in town again after dark . locals to going to be safe to walk in town again after dark. locals to us have been actually told during the day to close their windows and doors and lock them and keep them locked. and that's during them locked. and that's during the day . it is them locked. and that's during the day. it is very them locked. and that's during the day . it is very distressing the day. it is very distressing . i walked into town before christmas and i had the key map, my car key with the bit sticking out because i actually felt nervous because there were groups of these people around the town and this was 20 to 5 in the town and this was 20 to 5 in the evening . well, then i'm the evening. well, then i'm afraid your story is being repeated now all over the

country . there are approaching country. there are approaching 450 hotels now that are fully housing young men that have crossed the english channel, plus , of course, we've got plus, of course, we've got private housing as well. in fact, just this week, serco were writing a letter to people who they were renting properties off, asking for more properties . and i quote this from serco , . and i quote this from serco, this is from one company we currently have 40,000 asylum seekers staying in hotels and our goal is to get as many people as we can into houses in local communities. so they can take their next major step into their lives . take their next major step into their lives. in take their next major step into their lives . in the take their next major step into their lives. in the uk. take their next major step into their lives. in the uk . so serco their lives. in the uk. so serco will receive meaning that everyone that comes will be able to stay. and you know something, you know something . you saw the you know something. you saw the big case this week . you know something. you saw the big case this week. i you know something. you saw the big case this week . i know about big case this week. i know about the chap who committed a double murder. well, you didn't see it was in truro crown court yesterday. a chap who was a failed asylum seeker awaiting

deportation and was convicted of rape. but yesterday in truro . rape. but yesterday in truro. and here's the problem even when people fail, they're not being deported. and my short answer, lindsay, when you said you i can't see an end to this, henry smith, your mp, was he's halfway there . all the while we're there. all the while we're signed up to the european convention on human rights , and convention on human rights, and ourjudges convention on human rights, and our judges can use convention on human rights, and ourjudges can use it. convention on human rights, and ourjudges can use it . all convention on human rights, and our judges can use it . all the ourjudges can use it. all the while that happens, we will never be able to deport people sufficiently. that and other things have to change. if not, this will go on to get worse. why can i just say one thing? why can i just say one thing? why can i just say one thing? why can they bring in, in 24 hours, a law that makes wear masks? yeah yeah, yeah. it's. i mean, i get it. i got it. is the government being taken over by mafia ? well, he's stopping . some mafia? well, he's stopping. some would say the government is the mafia tonight. look, they haven't got the political will, and they're bound by the law .

and they're bound by the law. thank you. every important . thank you. every important. james. good evening . hi, nigel. james. good evening. hi, nigel. and can i just say first, thank you for all you do and contributing to the growth of a news channel that's genuinely independent and tells you . nigel independent and tells you. nigel the tax take now is genuinely hurting. working people as the tory party to have abandoned any pretence that they're for low tax and small states without me. smith spoke very convincingly today that just words from the tory party . now they've really tory party. now they've really let us all down and is there any hope for british taxpayers? nigel who really want to see the end of this drive towards globalisation and big government, big control, big spending, massive taxes ? is spending, massive taxes? is there any way for those people to go? james at the moment, at the moment you know if you look

at the two big policies in england and wales , a bit england and wales, a bit different, that that may change. nicola's not quite as popular as she was , i'm afraid. no, no . i she was, i'm afraid. no, no. i mean, you know, reform is making progress coming up on the rails , arguing for a smaller state. and henry says what he says and no doubt means it. and henry says what he says and no doubt means it . but they all no doubt means it. but they all say it and then do the opposite . i think we're in for a tough time and i think my biggest fear of, the number of people, young people, particularly emigrating, they're going off to lisbon , they're going off to lisbon, they're going off to lisbon, they're going off to lisbon, they're going off to milan , they're going off to milan, where those countries are doing tax deals. we've got a brain drain going on in britain for the first time since 1978 nine. it is shocking the self—employed particularly are being victimised. in my opinion, by this government . massive this government. massive increases in taxes ? no, no increases in taxes? no, no relaxation of 35, right at the moment. there's no obvious answer other than to say there'll be people like me and

you will be out there and we'll make the arguments and one day will turn this ship around. but it's going to take time. i'm sorry. thank you . yes that's my sorry. thank you. yes that's my . time that's. good evening, nigel . when will i start to see nigel. when will i start to see any benefits from brexit as currently my experience of brexit consists of increased food and commodity costs, such as a £500 customs tax bill for a bike that i purchased directly from germany recently and the nhs seems to have spiralled into a car crash. i thought that was supposed to get better . well supposed to get better. well actually on the nhs, i mean there was ridiculous promise that boris johnson made about x—number of fre e £50 million x—number of free £50 million a week. the truth is nhs spending has up even more than that, even more than that. and yet the more we into the nhs it seems the we put into the nhs it seems the less of it. when it less we get out of it. when it comes to trade and extra taxes , comes to trade and extra taxes, we should never have agreed to give 40 billion quid to the

european union if they were going to make trade more expensive, frankly, we'd have been better off leaving with no deal been better off leaving with no deal. and with you . i think deal. and i'm with you. i think a of feel a lot of people feel disappointed that government disappointed that the government has delivered . we've has not fully delivered. we've not cuts in regulation not had the cuts in regulation on the simplification of the business. and yet, listen , business. and yet, listen, there's a lot more to do. the tories have a lot of people down, let alone taking back control of our borders. disappointing. i agree with you . one last one, henry please . . one last one, henry please. good sitting there. i do. thank you. going to speak tonight. i'd just like to ask, considering britain emits just 1.8% of global co2 emissions and forecasts already for this year are suggesting that 8 billion tonnes of coal is to be burnt. do you believe in the transition to net zero? whilst competitors like china open eight new coal mines a year considering that really a global consensus is needed to make a real difference anyway ? henry not only are you

anyway? henry not only are you wearing the same coat that i wearing the same coat that i wear , but you're talking my wear, but you're talking my script . look, we all want to script. look, we all want to live in a cleaner, better environment, older people here will remember the london smog and terrible things like that. we all want to make improvements, but frankly. you say 1.8. my figures suggest less than 1% of global co2 is emitted by britain . we should not be by britain. we should not be committing acts of self—harm , committing acts of self—harm, and by that i mean to meet net zero. we're exporting manufacturing jobs and importing energy that we could produce here. it is other madness and i think westminster is becoming increasingly detached. frankly on this from the rest of the country. of course, you make these arguments, they all scream at you , denier, denier. it's at you, denier, denier. it's a sort of modern kind of witchcraft , it would seem . it's witchcraft, it would seem. it's rather similar to my point to james earlier. in the end, common sense prevail. right. let's take a break. and at the moment, i'll introduce katie price .

well, it's time for talking points and my guest tonight here in crawley is the one and only katie price. katie welcome to talk. good to see you. and, you know, usually when time did no , know, usually when time did no, just about you arrived about a minute ago. that doesn't matter . she did that. i mean, huge disappointment. if you hadn't, i can promise you. oh they you sort of arrive in our lives as jordan in the mid—to—late 1990s. and suddenly there are and everyone's talking about you. yeah. and that's how you were 25 years ago. yes. and you've never really left our lives. you're there constantly , every bit of there constantly, every bit of your life , the good bits, the your life, the good bits, the disappointing it never, ever

goes away . what's it like being goes away. what's it like being that famous ? could you live an that famous? could you live an ordinary life at all? well i don't think i am famous or i don't think i am famous or i don't know any different. yeah but i really don't know what it different . when i go home, different. when i go home, i just do normal things with my friends, some of my friends, the famous it's like when you get to know people don't understand how i'm like out there all the time in the papers. yeah i've just at home normal in my pyjamas drinking tea and just be a normal . but drinking tea and just be a normal. but when you're out and about, you know, you go shopping or yeah recognise or you go places. yeah recognise you. they want selfies or whatever else. they're out of that. yeah. but they do. so it's more like the kids now, especially harvey. he's so popular . harvey. yeah, we're popular. harvey. yeah, we're going to. yeah no, no, no questions in another letter. don't worry about it. but i mean, you know, you you've done a lot of, you know, i'm a celebrity big brother app. so, i mean, there's almost nothing. you are . you are. you're the you are. you are. you're the queen, the glamorous . the thing queen, the glamorous. the thing

that's a shame. that was a programme on the other day which i had absolutely nothing to do with called the rise and fall of me . and i was really worried, me. and i was really worried, thinking, oh my god, what's it going to be about? and actually it does show that have done a it does show that i have done a lot in my life, but nowadays people so interested in people are just so interested in writing about me down writing about putting me down rubbish stories when really they should embrace what i've done. and today i'm proud that the and today i'm so proud that the petition i did for harvey, well, this is amazing. yeah. can ask you something about it. so now . you something about it. so now. yeah, because i don't know how it goes it's something do it goes. it's something to do with it was in the with the bills. it was in the house of commons now it goes house of commons and now it goes to of lords. does to house of lords. what does that mean? just go that so that mean? let's just go that so your son? yes was born with some really tough disabilities. so day , which is septic optic day, which is septic optic displays . yeah. and basically displays. yeah. and basically that's part of the frontline of the brain , the pituitary gland. the brain, the pituitary gland. it's abnormal. so that's the brain, the pituitary gland. it's abnormal . so that's why it's abnormal. so that's why he's blind . it's abnormal. so that's why he's blind. he's got adhd opposite disorder, part willy's on the list goes on. tic

disorder, obesity yeah, we fought really hard him but. well, i was. i mean the thing that surprised me was why a kid like that would be the subject of online abuse. i mean, it seems pretty sick. doesn't it, with there's lots of people out there who are racist. there's lots of out there who think because you're larger than life that gives them an excuse to bully you . he can't answer that. bully you. he can't answer that. and the sad thing is, if they actually met harvey at 40, right. they're healthy. so innocent . like if someone went innocent. like if someone went to push him or like hates it would be like that and fights hate. it so he can't speak for himself. but i can. which is why i did this. yeah i mean, you've been pushing for this online harms bill, which would limit, you know, stop and get people prosecuted. yeah who were. the trouble is and yet so a piece of legislation goes through the house of commons asking the house of commons asking the house of commons asking the house of lords it takes time difficulty with it is where you draw the line between comment this is the thing. yeah. first

of all, if you love me or hate me, i think this is one of the best things i've ever done in my career. yeah it's about what is it ? 695,000 signatures. yeah so it? 695,000 signatures. yeah so it? 695,000 signatures. yeah so it just goes to show there's lots of support out there and i'm not doing it for myself. i'm doing it to help other people. so i am actually proud of myself that good. we're going . to know that good. we're going. to know . what i'm saying. what i'm saying, nigel . . what i'm saying. what i'm saying, nigel. i . what i'm saying. what i'm saying, nigel . i know, like . what i'm saying. what i'm saying, nigel. i know, like i'm a bit crazy nuts, but i can be professional and sensible sometimes . and so it was. it sometimes. and so it was. it wouldn't be me, would it? so well, you also quite an entrepreneur really, aren't you? i mean, perfume, name brands, food supplements, clothes and books. i mean , some 3 million books. i mean, some 3 million copies of your books. i mean, do you know how many books of books does anybody know actually how many books i've got out ? 52. but many books i've got out? 52. but you didn't know that? i did.

yeah. something like how many books? and of . oh, my god, i'm. books? and of. oh, my god, i'm. so do to do my next autobiography, five years. i tell you what, this one's going to be the best one i say about all of them. oh, my god. the dramas that i have had lately in my life. well i've survived it now. so now i going to come back. will you all know i really i mean i mean, look , i can't i mean i mean, look, i can't work out you so of books you do all these things and a couple years ago you did finish up in a bit of financial difficulty the word bank but say look a lot of people i don't care you can laugh whatever but you know i'm in such a good position and actually it's quite handy to be in bankruptcy. i think for in a bankruptcy. i think for a lot of reasons . so yeah, if lot of reasons. so yeah, if anyone's after it , join the list anyone's after it, join the list where they got . but no, but you where they got. but no, but you know, bounce back. you bounce back from that. yeah i've been to have went downhill you know horrible marriages. yeah you know i'm not going to sit here

and moan about everything but yeah rock of yeah it did hit rock bottom of suicide, tried kill myself. suicide, tried to kill myself. i up the priory. could not up in the priory. i could not have got any more rock bottom that i did. and i've come up shining happy, sorted myself out , dream as they say, , living the dream as they say, having to come back . well, you having to come back. well, you might be 44. i know it might not. look, paul, dear. and they're everywhere but yeah, there's more to come for me . there's more to come for me. bigger and better. wow thankfully . well yeah, i'm sure thankfully. well yeah, i'm sure i had quite a respond to that. you can't get any bigger show tonight. well, these are the biggest i've been, actually. but, you know, my friends say, why do you do it? because you neven why do you do it? because you never, like, show them. but i do it for myself. so yeah, these are the biggest. it for myself. so yeah, these are the biggest . yeah and tell are the biggest. yeah and tell us about onlyfans. katie price. oh, my god. i love onlyfans . so oh, my god. i love onlyfans. so obviously on my career free magazines news papers grafted really really hard nowadays

social media anyone can say i'm a model influence so get their kit off but why do i want to get my kit or not get paid for it? because that's basically what for i've done years. and then only fans. so it has got a stigma. you can get your kit off, have sex, do whatever on it, but then you don't have to do so i was a bit wary do that. so i was a bit wary about doing it, but i really enjoyed doing photoshoots. i mean, i absolutely love it. so i decided to join. asked channel decided to join. i asked channel 4 and the bbc because 4 and the bbc one because obviously do documentaries obviously i do documentaries stuff i could do stuff with them. if i could do it promise i won't go it, i said, i promise i won't go nude or anything because that's not do anyway. and not what i do anyway. and they agreed that is why i'm doing agreed so that is why i'm doing it. so anyone who wants to sign up, you get to see what goes on in my life and. see what 44 year old like . hey, you're old looks like. hey, you're doing phenomenally well on it, aren't you? yeah. the thing is, look, mate, look, i've had money, and then you lose money and money not. not everything in the world, you know what? i mean, like, in fact, the roots of all evil in my life . you

of all evil in my life. you know, i've had to pay this person that that person. and then you realise who you will find. so when you go through a tough time. but i know i'll always earn even this type work. so make it look sellable. but anything, anything. i'm like, where? i'm just me. i know now one of the negatives has been your driving record. yeah, i'm on my actually today i was doing my online driving course actually . oh, my god. i was. it actually. oh, my god. i was. it was jesus, katie, i have to be honest with you. yeah, much as many people in this country, you know, respect you and admire you , some do, but a lot do. it's a telling off. we don't want you back on the road . oh, i do. back on the road. oh, i do. i don't know what sense to get back on the road. so the reason i've been banned, did they call it now i live in the country and three or four houses and we've got the same postcode. so i never get all my post. but the judge never believed me. then it was the same judge again and

again. she just said to an again. she just said to make an example. agree. the example. but i do agree. the last one was drink driving and but mentally i wasn't. i went to the priory there's no the priory before. there's no excuse. i'm just thankful that didn't anyone. well, the didn't hurt anyone. well, the drunk , of is drunk driving, of course, is bad, there's quite bad, but there's been quite a few other incidents, really, haven't generally is one haven't there? generally is one topic. what exactly . yeah. why topic. what exactly. yeah. why don't you just give up driving? well, you know , i was going to well, you know, i was going to bnng well, you know, i was going to bring a range out of mobility scooters socially. i broke my faith . you might laugh, but faith. you might laugh, but i quote feet have had life quote my feet have had life changing injuries. two years ago. i have like for ago. so i have got like for mobility scooters. i kitted out because yeah normally when you see like people on that boring aren't they so i might bring out aren't they so i might bring out a range of mobility scooters. wow it's not the next big plan . wow it's not the next big plan. well, actually you have to wait and see what are doing next and stuff. oh, yes , the book i'm stuff. oh, yes, the book i'm going to do a theatre tour after the summer doing my memorabilia because i've got so much stuff like brass and stuff . if anyone like brass and stuff. if anyone wants any, you know , i'm just in

wants any, you know, i'm just in my everything. so yes, what else do my reality shows , do my reality shows, documentaries . i want to do documentaries. i want to do a lot of crime stuff and i still want to train to be a paramedic i'm still going to do it and i'm still going to do it. yeah, it's does no stopping you is there. no i was training to be a registered nurse before i got into awful industry . i was into this awful industry. i was doing the project 2000. he didn't it . so i doing the project 2000. he didn't it. so i am with didn't finish it. so i am with kevin person. i love people and the people don't ever get to see that side of me. unfortunately, they see the trashy kate in the papers where and they're doing that whatever boring. i think a lot of journalists they've got a lot of journalists they've got a lot to save them they written about your marriages and relationship ups endlessly and that must in the end get you down a bit. yeah, that's why i was in the private thing is they always say a source this what hp souls will catch up there is no souls will catch up there is no souls and my mum has been really ill and that was a story about a month ago that went in and they

made out that my mum made these comments. but we know it was impossible for my mum to my them comments . but what they don't comments. but what they don't like is i've probably got more people on my social media than the amount of papers or magazines they sell. so when i out them then they like come out them and then they like come crawling take it crawling please, can you take it down? you don't say that down? can you don't say that about journalists. don't say stuff about then works both stuff about me then works both ways. know, given that your ways. you know, given that your currency you currency and anything about you will gossip columns or will go into gossip columns or whatever is, surely the most whatever it is, surely the most difficult thing knowing who difficult thing is knowing who to as friends. trust and to trust as friends. trust and loyalty. for me, like i've just been betrayed in every way. managers has , burns, friends, managers has, burns, friends, you name it . managers has, burns, friends, you name it. so i'm still like looking for friendship and stuff and love . i'm never giving up. and love. i'm never giving up. no but it is hard, isn't it? it is . is hard. no but it is hard, isn't it? it is. is hard. but i'm a survivor . but not everyone's going to be like, are they? so no , i think like, are they? so no, i think it's, you know , i think i'm in it's, you know, i think i'm in the press mode. you i suppose in one way the press can be very

good to you as well, can't they? back in the day we had a good relationship, you know, the son signed me, so i didn't work for the daily star. the daily the daily star. then the daily star signed with i didn't work with it was like with the sun and it was like give take. but now it's give and take. but now it's like. bash, bash, bash, bash. like. else can say? like. what else can they say? literally really dislike the press. now, i just. i got no press. now, ijust. i got no respect. i am human and i've seen how bad mentally open. and yet they still f honestly every single day there's a story every day . literally. i know naturally day. literally. i know naturally and like i don't know what the fascination is about. i'm really done.i fascination is about. i'm really done. i go home, my and that one the funny thing is the other day of my eight year old daughter a letter come through the post jordan trading she's bob whose daughter was his company letterbox when it's made you know it's not you my mum and your katie price i went but my name was jordan she's like what? who's jordan? so isn't that fascinating? she has no idea . so fascinating? she has no idea. so i said, it's not only fans , so. i said, it's not only fans, so. well, i have to say katie price,

i sit and talk for ages and i have to say, you know, as i said at the start of this, you arrived in our lives, whether we wanted it or not in the 1990s. have always like me or not, by the way . oh, you're honest . the way. oh, you're honest. well, i've got a some of them and you like me, i like you. they know who you are. but don't tell anybody because you don't really want some of that. are you married? i don't know. really want some of that. are you married? i don't know . we'll you married? i don't know. we'll talk about it afterwards. now who can i can i just say you've had been through some very tough times . i had been through some very tough times. i know you have. yeah, i would say you were very positive. you've turned it all around, big hand, please, for katie. thank you . now we're katie. thank you. now we're going . to we're going to finish going. to we're going to finish with a song that night. locals singer is going to sing for us a

song about nadhim zahawi , the song about nadhim zahawi, the man who can't be moved . and man who can't be moved. and thank you, everybody, for joining us this evening. thank you, everybody, for joining us this evening . and joining us this evening. and. going to the cover of science. are you gonna count him out cbn tech and i'm going to move cos of us are covered gotcha here and if you see this girl can you tell her whereby can some to help me money they don't answer i'm drunk i'm just a broken heart here man i know all sounds white us cannot do our can my mother i'm i'm still in love

with you cos if one, two find it your missing me first so i do i want to serve i can't be thinking maybe you can't back you to the place that bring me a civil waiting for you on the corner of the street and i move . i'm. i'm i'm not moving. corner of the street and i move . i'm. i'm i'm not moving . on .i'm. i'm i'm not moving. on i'm. i'm moving. because it's only you echo him finally coming to me. i started to wonder where on a sci fi jimi you can maybe you can't you sort the step in me sinewy and for you i'm the of the street i'm i'm moving. i'm

i'm moving. i'm the moving. i'm moving . moving. thank you .