good afternoon. and welcome to real britain. with me, emily on your tv online and digital radio. well, we have a jam show coming up this afternoon, so put the kettle on, get comfy and settle this afternoon. is it game over for the conservatives at, the cabinet? so wednesday this week, william reportedly told the room all is not yet lost. is he right or is it about time? we spent some time in opposition and as nato in the

west send more tanks to ukraine. i'll be getting the latest from major general chapman on whether we're heading for further escalation . and do you think we escalation. and do you think we should be restricting student visas ? university officials say visas? university officials say that doing so could threaten economic growth . are they right? economic growth. are they right? we'll get stuck . all of that in we'll get stuck. all of that in just one tick. but first, it's the news with bethany elsey elsey . emily, thank you. good elsey. emily, thank you. good afternoon . 2:01. i'm bethany afternoon. 2:01. i'm bethany elsey . the gb newsroom 276 flybe elsey. the gb newsroom 276 flybe staff have been made redundant with the airline going into administration for the second time in three years. around 5000 people have had their bookings cancelled in the uk . aviation cancelled in the uk. aviation authority is urging the koreas customers not to travel to airports flying be returned to the skies last april after it collapsed in 2020 operating flights 21 routes to 17

destinations. the sun's travel editor lisa minnow is positive the staff will get new jobs . the staff will get new jobs. flights are hugely demand. and what we saw last summer, of course, was the fact that actually flights were having to be restricted because they didn't have enough staff and are desperate now for staff. so i think it's going to be a positive story , a positive positive story, a positive outcome for the 340 and 240 employees of the new. i think they will definitely get very quickly because as you say, as a whole, the sector is really recovering well. there's a huge demand for travel with this cost of living crisis , a murder in of living crisis, a murder in resignation has been launched after . a 15 year old girl was after. a 15 year old girl was stabbed in hexham, a 16 year old boy is also hospital after suffering serious but not life threatening , with northumbria threatening, with northumbria police saying followed a suspected assault . the force suspected assault. the force says a 16 year old boy has been and remains in police custody . and remains in police custody. sir keir starmer says labour has

reformed under his leadership. addressing the london conference, he told members message at the next general election be that the party is different to the one britain rejected in 2019. he also warned against complacency and vowed to build a fairer , greener britain, build a fairer, greener britain, promising to put country first. britain is crying out for change, crying for decisive leadership. and we provide it through move that we can be a bold government show . not just bold government show. not just what the tories have done to britain, but the british. but labour could build a fairer create a more dynamic country with the economy that works for everyone not just those at the top and the politics which trust communities with the power to control their own destiny . a control their own destiny. a former minister, lord peter mandelson, says labour must focussed on the next election . focussed on the next election. the biggest risk is that take the next elections in the bag that we relax, we take for

granted. no, no no. we have to maintain our absolute focus on voters, particularly those voters, particularly those voters who have yet to be convinced that . labour does convinced that. labour does offer a credible united , offer a credible united, progressive alternative for our country . graphic cam footage has country. graphic cam footage has been released in the us showing police and memphis beating a black man who died three days later. a warning some people may find the following distressing . find the following distressing. you he may . you know he is 29 you he may. you know he is 29 year old tyree nichols kicked, punched and pepper sprayed as he cried out for his mother. five black police officers have been sacked and are facing murder . sacked and are facing murder. president joe biden's , he's president joe biden's, he's outraged and, has called for an end to police . he had to tell me

end to police. he had to tell me about my . had you know, sent me about my. had you know, sent me back to my house. the video has triggered fresh protests against police brutality towards black people demonstrate nations which were mostly peaceful have been held across several cities , held across several cities, including memphis and new york. in times square, three people were arrested after police cars were arrested after police cars were damaged . it's been another were damaged. it's been another palestinian shooting in jerusalem. police say 13 year old boy opened fire in the old city. two people were injured before the boy was shot and injured by passers by. the latest attack happened only a day after . seven people were day after. seven people were killed by a gunman , a synagogue. killed by a gunman, a synagogue. the violence follows the deaths of at least nine palestinians who were killed during . a raid who were killed during. a raid on the west bank on thursday . on the west bank on thursday. the israeli army has boosted its forces in the area and a former conservative party chair says a number of members feel they would deny a vote on rishi sunak

becoming prime minister. in an interview with gb news, jake berry says sunak should have held an endorsement during the leadership contest to show he had the support , the membership. had the support, the membership. i think even though he absolutely got the majority of members parliament, the conservative members of parliament, now i support as prime minister everything he does there is a challenge he is if it's not true, there's a perception of the conservative parliamentary now being disconnected our membership because we have that even if it was a sort of endorsement vote. you can see that full interview with jake berry on gloria at 6 pm. tomorrow. this is gb news. p.m. tomorrow. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to real britain. emily

thank you, bethany, and welcome back to real britain and here's what's coming up on the show this afternoon . noon, is it? this afternoon. noon, is it? game over for the tory party with tax chief suggesting with the tax chief suggesting nadhim not in fact nadhim zahawi did not in fact make an innocent . a 24th civil make an innocent. a 24th civil servant now involved formal complaints against deputy minister dominic. dominic raab and with the bbc chairman, accused of helping boris johnson secure an £800,000 loan, the conservatives continue to slip in the polls . conservatives continue to slip in the polls. but do you think rishi sunak can challenge on major and salvage the party before the next election or is it time conservatives spent a little bit of time in opposition and us will send 31 powerful battle tanks to ukraine joining germany in sending the weapons of to support the fight against russia's invasion. but is this move by nato provoking some worrisome actions from putin ? worrisome actions from putin? then later on nicola sturgeon's controversial trans laws were under the spotlight this thursday after was forced to announce that a rapist claimed to be female would be moved into

a male prison. is this the beginning of the for the snp's controversial gender recognition reform ? i certainly hope so. reform? i certainly hope so. what we're talking about for the next hour. i'd love to know your thoughts as always on today's please do tweet me at gb news or you can email me on gb views at gbnews.uk. you can also us onune gbnews.uk. you can also us online on youtube . i'll be back online on youtube. i'll be back in just one moment. now, earlier this week, it made massive headunes this week, it made massive headlines around the world, but in scotland a convicted double rapist , male in scotland a convicted double rapist, male genitalia donning , rapist, male genitalia donning, a peroxide blonde wig and handbag was being held in. a women's prison and may well have gone to serve his full sentence. there like putting a fox in a house. it then came out while the rapist formerly known adam graham, awaited trial , he was graham, awaited trial, he was actually enrolled on a beauty course. that meant he watched young strip off for spray tans . young strip off for spray tans. one woman who he spray tan who

is now aware of graham's crimes , told bbc scotland. if we said anything she didn't like . she anything she didn't like. she tried to say we were being transphobic. i think that if news outlets like gb news had not made such a massive point of exposing the utter lunacy of allowing male rapists into women's prisons and allowing people to wear femininity, essentially like a costume gaming the justice and putting female lives at risk. in my opinion, there's no way in hell sturgeon would have backed down and said this rapist couldn't kept in a women's prison. but because people like sturgeon and now losing the argument it seems they are resorting to demonise their opponents . from what i can their opponents. from what i can see, the vast majority of the pubuc see, the vast majority of the public do not support radical gender politics. they do not support removing safeguards for women . and they think that women. and they think that allowing to self—identify as whatever gender they like fundamentally goes against common sense and in some cases could pose serious risks . in

could pose serious risks. in this case, i believe nicholas sturgeon trying to silence you with labels transphobia, homophobic racist, misogynist. these are big words that have the power criminalise people, cost them their jobs , friendship cost them their jobs, friendship circles their families their reputation. these are powerful words. but she said there are people who have opposed this bill but cloak in women's rights to make it acceptable. but just they're transphobic. you'll also find they are deeply misogynist often homophobic. possibly some them racist as well . in my them racist as well. in my opinion, she's this so that the ordinary man and woman going about their daily lives who have genuine concerns this gender politics sign themselves. so they think twice before raising their concerns at the pub at the school gates or at a dinner because they're afraid of being labelled one of those criminal characteristics . i think cases characteristics. i think cases like the one of a male rapist with full genital ear being placed into a women's prison are

going to become more common. questions about gender, education in schools are going to be raised more frequently. concerns about men being in women's spaces . going to grow. women's spaces. going to grow. do not let desperate politicians and slander you by a label on you . we shouldn't allow anyone you. we shouldn't allow anyone to use such words to bully us into silence. do not let anyone, for that matter, tell you that what you can see with your own eyes, filling your own gut and knowing your own mind isn't . knowing your own mind isn't. true . right. those my views on true. right. those my views on nicholas sturgeon and her latest outburst essentially saying that people who might disagree with her gender reform bill could be racist , misogynistic, homophobic racist, misogynistic, homophobic transphobia . big, of course . but transphobia. big, of course. but we'll be coming back to that later. we'll be having a little bit of a debate on that one. but in other news, it's been another challenging week for rishi sunak and the conservatives. the fallout over party chairman holloway's continue

holloway's tax affairs continue with the head of hmrc casting , with the head of hmrc casting, doubt over his claims that made an innocent error over. his tax tax returns . and as if that tax returns. and as if that weren't enough, it is believed at least 24 civil servants have now made bullying allegations against deputy prime minister raab. and whether you care or not even long time conservative voter sir roger stewart . sir rod voter sir roger stewart. sir rod stewart has said it is time a labour government and the british public appear to agree with him. with 50% of people in our gb news, people's saying they'd vote for labour the next general election election with 21% now backing the. so does the party in crisis and can they recover before the next general election ? to debate this, i'm election? to debate this, i'm delighted to be joined by conservative panel daniel moylan and of course , phyllida as well, and of course, phyllida as well, who is a conservative party approved parliamentary candidate for the next general election. thank you very much both of you for coming into the studio . lord for coming into the studio. lord moylan , please tell me, what do

moylan, please tell me, what do you think? do you think it's right for me to characterise the party as one in crisis? i think crisis is close to it. i mean, when you're seeing a party is in government that has level of support in opinion polls and not just yours but fairly consistently now over a number of period, over a period number of period, over a period number of months , you see you have of months, you see you have a prime minister who have the security of having been voted in by the party membership. you have a wholly unnecessary crisis on about the party chairman with increasing ugly, serious allegations that that not wholly innocent mistakes were made in relation to his tax affairs and. you see a public which in view is starting to switch off from to even the good things the government has to say and the good things the government is doing, then i think you can reasonably describe that a crisis. i don't think that means it's end. there is still time ,

it's end. there is still time, the next general election and, the next general election and, the party can still pull it round . but as i think even their round. but as i think even their own election adviser told them at chequers , according to the at chequers, according to the newspapers, this week, there is a very narrow path to do that and you have to pick pick your steps very, very carefully if you're going to have a chance of doing it. but i'm sure rishi sunak's on top of it now. lewis in my there i spoke of the various scandals against members of the party and cabinet ministers , but really ministers, but really fundamentally to voters , i would fundamentally to voters, i would argue it's the issues, the real issues, the economy, the nhs , issues, the economy, the nhs, the migration crisis, the small boats crisis. but it people will vote in the next election . that vote in the next election. that will be what decides their vote . how do you think they're getting on in that respect? it seems there's all these distractions . yeah, well, i distractions. yeah, well, i think it's important as we look at these polls and talk about a general action to remember that

that two years away at that could be two years away at the the latest it happen the moment. the latest it happen is january 20, 25 and two years, let alone months, is a very let alone 18 months, is a very time in british politics nowadays , as we've seen in nowadays, as we've seen in recent years. but i think on the issues at the beginning of this yean issues at the beginning of this year, the prime minister set his five priorities for the government halve inflation, government to halve inflation, to grow the economy, to bring down the national debt, to stop the small boats crisis, and to bnng the small boats crisis, and to bring down nhs waiting lists. exactly that you've exactly the issues that you've just mentioned that i think are at the top of voters minds at the moment. and so i think that the moment. and so i think that the right priorities for the government to that government when it comes to that election must remember election and we must remember that elections that general elections are not just back just about looking back and giving people ability and giving the people ability and time to judge a government on its or five years in its four or five years in government, the parties government, but also the parties lay manifestos and lay on their manifestos and present their vision for the united will vote united kingdom. people will vote on as well. and so on that vision as well. and so oncei on that vision as well. and so once i think it's easy to think because the conservative party's been government long been in government for a long time voters will time now, that the voters will just want to give us a kicking. if look at what happened in if you look at what happened in 2019, three years of 2019, we'd had three years of theresa turmoil then

theresa may in turmoil and then we that general election we went to that general election and was johnson versus jeremy and it was johnson versus jeremy corbyn. we won an overwhelming landslide majority of them, but that was a very particular scenario and that's not what voters are going to have to choose come the next, are choose from come the next, are they? it's going to be very difficult for rishi sunak to bnng difficult for rishi sunak to bring back at this point . i bring this back at this point. i i guess i mean, it is going to be difficult. i think lewis is right. | be difficult. i think lewis is right. i mean, the prime minister was picked up key issues that people are very concerned about. the question now is delivery and on top of that, i he still has to establish himself in the minds of the voters as somebody who can paint a picture of the sort of britain that the conservative party offers you by contrast to the sort of britain that labour is offering. well the problem is at the moment don't see a sufficient blue water as it some time for between the parties and i. we don't have a clear idea of

what sort of we know that the conservative is committed to lower taxes we're giving people higher taxes. well, which is it? are we a high tax were low tax party? where is he taking us? the end of this. that hasn't been set out. it's not just on tax, but on other things. he's gone opportunity to do that but. i think the time is running out otherwise. he won't establish himself vote as much as himself in the vote as much as this yeah. mean lewis this vision. yeah. i mean lewis is difficult indeed for is very difficult indeed for rishi to stand up and say the country's a state than country's a better state than the conservatives took office. in many ways they said that they would bring immigration down. they demonstrably . they said they demonstrably. they said that they'd keep the nhs in a fit state. it isn't in one tax is a higher than ever before, or at least for decades. can blame this on the pound ? dimock this on the pound? dimock really, at this stage ? no, i really, at this stage? no, i think it's right that focus on delivery , what we've got to do delivery, what we've got to do between now and the next general lection. so against those five

priorities, people can really progress. but i think it's equally to say that does have to be clear blue water between the two parties things like two parties on things like taxing spending. moment, taxing spending. at the moment, i voters who who i think many voters who who don't follow politics on daily bafis don't follow politics on daily basis would say that. keir starmer, is starmer, his labour party is worth a shot at this point and i think we need real conservative policies. you've just talked about previous story about in your previous story things the trans in things like the trans issues in scotland. i people have had enough of this wokeism this infected society and i think infected our society and i think there's an opportunity for the conservative party to make itself clear that we itself really clear that we are on the of normal people who on the side of normal people who find this utterly bonkers find all of this utterly bonkers and not just to and we're not just going to react doesn't happens. react to it. it doesn't happens. we're to have clear we're going to have clear policies stop it. things policies to stop it. and things like lower things that like lower taxes, things that people look to. the people always look to. the conservative , the lord conservative party, the lord willing, on the willing, if you were out on the doorstep to encourage doorstep trying to encourage people conservative, people to vote conservative, what on earth would you say ? what on earth would you say? because it does not look like the government has lived to the government has lived up to the government has lived up to the expectations it set itself. well, first of all, i'd fall back on the standard thing that many people do use on the

doorstep . i point out how doorstep. i point out how utterly useless keir starmer is, but in terms the conservative and he is, but the party in terms of the visit, in terms of the conservative party, i think most people that since 2019 we've had some terrible blows delivered to the economy. they understand that but what they want to see is a plan and competence and a plan getting out of it and competence delivering it and that been set out yet i think if you if you say to people i'd say on the doorstep it has very difficult but we have a plan we know what we're doing and we're going to this and this is where we're taking you. this is the sort of britain that we want to live in. we you want to then i think people would give you a chance and come with you because they recognise that covid and russia invading , these are things that invading, these are things that are not government's . they are not the government's. they came other they've come came from other they've come from elsewhere . so we've had to

from elsewhere. so we've had to manage them. so i think people would recognise that. but i don't feel that's quite what the government, the story, the government's getting across and that's don't think that's why i don't think it's just i've picked just enough to say i've picked your top five concerns and i'm going to deal with them. it has to set in a bigger. yes, to be set in a bigger. yes, anyone do that. anyone can anyone can do that. anyone can say. what you care say. oh this is what you care about based opinion polls. about based on opinion polls. it's it's about it's not difficult. it's about how you then handle those issues going and how make people's going and how you make people's lives or lives fundamentally better, or at them but at least allow them be. but i think one thing. lastly , think one thing. lewis lastly, is there's a lot of is that there's a lot of confusion people at confusion when. people look at the government, example , the government, for example, immigration. the government, for example, immigration . you've got suella immigration. you've got suella braverman being very that she wants to get numbers down even if it means cracking down on number foreign students. yet number of foreign students. yet then the treasury, of then you have the treasury, of course, no we this course, saying no we need this economic need more economic growth, we need more immigration, not less. what is it? what are people actually voting for when they put their cross a conservative box? cross in a conservative box? well, they're voting to be well, they're not voting to be run treasury and lewis run by the treasury and lewis needs to have the final . would needs to have the final. would you agree with that ? voting to you agree with that? voting to be run by the treasury . yeah, i

be run by the treasury. yeah, i think i think people vote exactly as for a better exactly as you for a better life. right. so need the life. right. so we need over the next couple years to paint next couple of years to paint that them of are that picture them of what are the next years in this the next five years in this country to look but country going to look like. but we do also need to reflect on we have achieved things have achieved great things in this time. covid this period of time. covid course not things, course, course is not things, of course, but remember how we reacted with the vaccine situation the the vaccine situation at the time? and the time? much the eu and the catastrophic response that they had it . we were elected to had to it. we were elected to get brexit done then we've done that. it done . we now that. we got it done. we now need take advantage of need to take proper advantage of it. well, that could be a whole nother conversation. of course, jeremy he jeremy hunt has said that he wants make the most wants to make the most brexit, but not i believe him, but i'm not sure i believe him, to honest , judging from his to be honest, judging from his previous voting record . thank previous voting record. thank you much indeed. that was , you very much indeed. that was, of daniel moylan of course, lord daniel moylan and conservative party approved parliamentary lewis parliamentary candidate lewis out with in the studio. thank out with me in the studio. thank you very much. your time this afternoon now. plenty more to come afternoon on real come this afternoon on real britain. got the britain. we've got after the break. us sending 31 powerful battle tanks to joining germany in the weapons of war to

in sending the weapons of war to support the fight against invasion. but is this move by nato provoking putin? but first, let's have a look at winner . let's have a look at winner. hello there. hope you're enjoying your weekend far. i'm jonathan vetri . here we have jonathan vetri. here we have your latest weather update from the met office. we will see the wind strengthened across areas of the uk into sunday. but for now winds are light thanks to high pressure pushing its way across the uk . we do just have across the uk. we do just have to watch out for this cold front. the snow is sinking southwards. it is bringing patchy rain and drizzle to some areas and that will move its way into wales central areas of england evening. but england into this evening. but it fairly cloudy it is remaining fairly cloudy throughout . there throughout the night. there could some clear spells could be some clear spells dunng could be some clear spells during evening. northern during the evening. northern ireland, scotland, ireland, parts of scotland, northern allow northern england will allow patchy develop, but as patchy frost to develop, but as the fills its way in and the cloud fills its way in and the cloud fills its way in and the breeze begins to strengthen, we more around we see temperatures more around low in most towns and low single. in most towns and cities but the start of sunday morning , this is when we'll morning, this is when we'll really start to see those winds strengthening the northwest as more expansive of rain begins to

push its way in this could certainly heavy at times . we certainly be heavy at times. we start day elsewhere once start off the day elsewhere once the rain and drizzle does eventually its way off to the south, largely dry south, they be a largely dry day, but cloudy one. just the odd , bright spell here and there odd, bright spell here and there . temperatures wise holding up around to nine degrees across southern areas , actually ten, southern areas, actually ten, 11, maybe even 12 degrees for the likes of aberdeen with those winds coming up from the south until tomorrow evening. then frontal system is going to gradually push its across gradually push its way across many areas . we will see some many areas. we will see some clearer spells develop that, but also a rash showers pushing also a rash of showers pushing in scotland. 50 mile an hour in for scotland. 50 mile an hour gusts associated with these showers some hail there showers and some hail in there as well. but by the time we get to morning, that front to monday morning, that front will way will eventually its way off across southern areas. so for many us, the start of the new working week is like a fairly pleasant one with some sunny intervals in there. now, thanks to ridge of high pressure as to the ridge of high pressure as we move throughout rest of we move throughout the rest of the our attentions turn to the week, our attentions turn to this centre that this low pressure centre that squeeze east of us across

squeeze in the east of us across . could provide some . scotland could provide some fairly conditions, fairly and windy conditions, particularly the end of tuesday. so watch out for that. goodbye .

yes, welcome back. this is real britain on gb news on a tv onune britain on gb news on a tv online and digital radio now speaking after germany's decision to send leopard 2 tanks to ukraine, germany's foreign minister said we are fighting a war against russia and not against each other. this was then used by russia to suggest that west is waging a premeditated against the country , despite berlin's stance that does not want nato to become directly involved in the conflict. germany then accused russia of twisting its minister's words about the war in ukraine to serve the. so does germany sending the tanks risk

escalating likelihood of direct conflict nato and russia ? or are conflict nato and russia? or are these fears over blown? the former head of counter—terrorism at the ministry of defence maj general chip chapman, joins me now to his thoughts. so i'll pose that question to that directly. well, there's a difference in war. the political objective for which war is fought and warfare, the act of fighting and war, those political objectives is a political objectives is a political meaning and. no country in nato has said it's at war, so they don't perceive themselves to be at war. if you're from the russian perspective, both lavrov and peskov, the foreign minister and spokesman for putin, have said, we're almost at with nato . we're almost at war with nato. and the reason they say that is got to have a bogeyman to try and stabilise their home. now we are not directly fighting russia and we won't be directly fighting russia and we've given them weapons for self—defence. so the notion we are at war with russia is false. well then the

german foreign minister shouldn't have said that. should she shouldn't have, but she's not the prime decision maker. it's same the defence it's the same as the defence minister, this week spent speaking out of turn and was slapped down before the decision .send slapped down before the decision . send were sent. now in . send tanks were sent. now in terms of the escalation, you can escalate in seven ways. you can escalate in seven ways. you can escalate by targets, objectives , weapons, geography , rhetoric, , weapons, geography, rhetoric, domains or mobilisation. and every time. we give a new capability to the russians. there's always a rhetoric , there's always a rhetoric, escalation from the russians and the escalation there is proportionate to the amount of capability we give to the ukrainians. so seen this from the off it first started on the 11th of march last year when they attacked lavrov, which is when we which is just over the border , poland and ukraine and border, poland and ukraine and territory because of the of weapons starting to flow there . weapons starting to flow there. so what does this mean for the. well, the conflict . because well, the conflict. because germany after well being persuaded , i imagine it took persuaded, i imagine it took them a while to come to the

decision to send these tanks to ukraine for many reasons. perhaps you could detail those for us. why did it take germany long to actually say yes , we are long to actually say yes, we are going to send this these tanks to , ukraine, to help them? well, to, ukraine, to help them? well, you'd have to go back 11 months to the start the war. so germany initially sent 5000 helmets with 5000 helmets and no kinetic war fighting, which they were ridiculed at the time. absolutely. and it's partly to do with our history. they fought two unsuccessfully in the two wars unsuccessfully in the 20th century and have seen that the futility in force from their perspective, not the utility of force, was achieved nothing. and of course, that affected their political means that they believed engagement ostpolitik was thing that ended the cold war , not hard power against the war, not hard power against the soviet union. so they've seen a big turnaround in that. and it's most evident, for example, part of the governing coalition is green party. the reason the green party. the reason the green party. the reason the green party in germany have

actually given their authority for tanks and offensive materiel because of that , their stance on because of that, their stance on human rights , justice and all human rights, justice and all these things , they see that these things, they see that russia is destroying . now, a lot russia is destroying. now, a lot of people watching this will be thinking for how long can this go on? what effect will these have? will they hasten the end of this conflict ? because they of this conflict? because they may well lead to more and more lives dying on both sides . well, lives dying on both sides. well, more people will die on both . more people will die on both. but you then have to at why? fighting stops fighting for three reasons. either because of decisive military victory and these tanks and a combined arms combination you the potential ability do that. secondly the fighting starts because of the improbability of victory. we get to a negotiated settlement. that's unlikely. whilst we've got four illegally occupied oblast or thirdly because of the cost to either side economically , politically, industrially population. that is why the russians for example, have what

we call this battle attack on the infrastructure trying to break the will of the ukraine people of the ukrainian people therefore to say to their elected politician you must go for a ceasefire and concede the ukrainian people don't look like they're doing that at the moment. every time the russians attack the popular ority of zelenskyy and not trading land for peace goes up. well presumably handing over these weapons to ukraine and its military . the intention is that military. the intention is that this will stop the conflict or lead to a halt in the conflict . lead to a halt in the conflict. why would we essentially equip ukraine unless we thought that it would hasten a. that's right. this full four of that oblast, the equivalent of counties. do you believe that will it will hasten the end of this ? i hasten the end of this? i believe it will hasten the end. the war in combination with two things, which will probably in the next one or two months. firstly more precision strike because . precision can defeat

because. precision can defeat mass, but it takes time. and secondly, the next group meeting in ramstein . last one was the in ramstein. last one was the eighth. the next one is the ninth is going to look at aviation and air power. the best thing to have air power in combination with that land offensive capability manoeuvre capability. that's the you would defeat an army. well, i hope you're right. and i hope that that solution does come sooner rather later . it's just rather than later. it's just coming up to the first anniversary, is it not, on the 24th of february. and there are reports that putin is about to launch yet another offensive. so fingers crossed, not more . i was fingers crossed, not more. i was just so many lives are being lost. it is pretty brutal stuff. thank you very much indeed for coming . the studio that was, of coming. the studio that was, of course, former head of counter terrorism at the ministry of defence , major general chip defence, major general chip chapman. much chapman. thank you very much indeed your time now you chapman. thank you very much inde

moved into male prison. is this the the for the the beginning? the end for the snp's controversial gender recognition bill? but recognition reform bill? but first, let's a check on the first, let's take a check on the news headlines. bethany elsey . news headlines. bethany elsey. emily, thank you . good emily, thank you. good afternoon. it's 232. i've your top stories from the gb newsroom. 276 flybe staff have been made redundant with the airline going into administration the second time in three years. around seven 5000 people have had their flights cancelled and the uk civil aviation is urging customers to travel to airports . some of the returned to the skies last april after it collapsed in 2020. operating flights on 21 routes to 17 destinations. a murder investor gafion destinations. a murder investor gation has been launched after a year old girl was stabbed . year old girl was stabbed. hexham. a 16 year old boy is in hexham. a16 year old boy is in hospital after suffering serious but not life injuries. with northumbria saying it followed a

suspected assault. the force says a 16 year old boy has been arrested, remains in police custody . the head of the rmt custody. the head of the rmt union says its members make a decision on whether to accept latest and final offer from . the latest and final offer from. the rail delivery group by the of february. marc lynch the union is holding discussions with members across the country over the next ten days. but he told gb news the terms of the offer are really poor and he doesn't feel optimistic. are really poor and he doesn't feel optimistic . sir keir feel optimistic. sir keir starmer says labour has reformed under his leadership . addressing under his leadership. addressing the london labour conference , he the london labour conference, he said the message of the next general must be that the party is different to the one that britain rejected in 2019. he also vowed to build a fairer greener country and told not to be complacent . you're up to date be complacent. you're up to date on tv online in derby plus , this on tv online in derby plus, this is gb news. emily we'll be back with you in just a second .

yes, welcome back. this is real britain on gb news on itv online digital radio. now nicholas sturgeon has said opponents her gender reform bill use women's rights as a cloak for transphobia. speaking after her announcement that a rapist ala bryson previously adam who now identifies a woman will be moved to a male prison. she there are people who have opposed this bill but cloak themselves in women's rights to make it acceptable . but just as they're acceptable. but just as they're transphobic , you'll also find transphobic, you'll also find that they're deeply misleading , that they're deeply misleading, honest, often homophobic , honest, often homophobic, possibly some of them racist as well. of course, she names no one there. how controversial self deal or appear to be thrown into disarray this week after.

the decision to move the prisoner to a male prison he of course was being in a segregation unit at a female prison up until. now joining me now to debate this is political strategist and former press secretary for tony john mcternan. thank you very much . mcternan. thank you very much. and in the studio, the senior editor at contact magazine, nina powell . now, nina, seeing as you powell. now, nina, seeing as you are in the studio with me, what your take on this utter lunacy ? your take on this utter lunacy? well, i think reality is crashing down around nicola sturgeon's , you know , being. sturgeon's, you know, being. i think kind of desperation to try to link logistics and totally reasonable criticism and opposition to the housing of male prisoners with women where she tries to link it to sort of racism and homophobia i mean is extreme desperate? i think sounds like she's a sort of 70

year old arguing her parents trying to sort of a associate all these negative things together . and she's not sort of together. and she's not sort of taking any of the reasonable seriously at all. and i think, yeah, i wonder if it's curtains also it is a crime hates speech hate crime to be some of these things to homophobic or to be racist to be transphobic. these are quite allegations and yet she names no presumably because if she called the likes of j.k. rowling any of these terms she'd have a lawsuit on her hands. john, do you think this change things? do you think this story may be a watershed moment when it comes to gender politics? i think it's possibly a watershed moment in. the impression that sturgeon likes to give to scotland she likes to be the leader of the nation she likes to be the person who makes the

decisions. that's what she's centralised everything. and there's not there's not no longer a serious different regional police forces. there's one police scotland all the centralisation means everything is her decision, which actually means everything's her responsibility. and the governor at the prison that this rapist was assigned to and the scottish pfison was assigned to and the scottish prison service made a mistake, a nicholas sturgeon and sort of backed them and then sort didn't backed them and then sort didn't back them because she she's been a real problem here. what she's proposing reform which is a modest reform by birth certificates, is deeply unpopular in scotland. and she's never yet faced an issue where she's been in a fight. the uk government and this type of conservative government in the tory government are speaking for scottish voters and nicola is speaking for a minority within her party. that i think is a huge crisis for. now, nina. am i right thinking that the gender reform one of the amendments that put forward to prevent such

things the case of adam graham from happening. there wasn't amendment that was put forward that convicted sex offenders could then be placed or would not be able to change their gender such a way as to be able to be in a women's prison, for example. and it was voted down, i believe. yeah, i think we see this kind of, you know, mishandling of the law all over the place. but you also see it with charities such as mermaid and who were giving and stonewall who were giving incorrect legal advice to institutions who were then acting as if something untrue is the case. right. so this is very serious. and i think we the law needs to be extremely clear . i needs to be extremely clear. i think the uk was correct to try to block this scottish reform. i think it's very obvious that sometimes countries and leaders can go wrong and get things wrong and when you condense power , as john was saying, in power, as john was saying, in the figure in a single, this is what happens. people stop listening. and john, is there

not something fundamental with the law issue, with the equality act? because the idea of self is obviously a problem atika in such cases as these , to say the such cases as these, to say the least, in such cases as sex offenders , because essentially offenders, because essentially equality act allows someone to their sex legally . do you think their sex legally. do you think it should be amended in order to make sure that biological sex is safeguard it. well look, i think for me this is absolutely a case of really really, really bad management of scottish prison service the point of the prison service the point of the prison service is to make sure that people serve the sentences when the convicted the deprivation of liberty is the punishment when you're in prison whether you're a man or a woman or trans woman or trans man , you a man or a woman or trans woman or trans man , you are a man or a woman or trans woman or trans man , you are should be or trans man, you are should be safe from violence, from other and from anybody else on the prison estate and is where there's been this massive

confusion that the there hasn't been a proper of how to make in this case safe whether it is the rapist whether it's the women in the jail, because i don't think it's going to be easy being a trans woman and a trans woman and a convicted rapist in a male prison in scotland. the safety of the prisoners is really important, but it seems that for nicholas sturgeon this became an issue defending her legislation , which is she knows is flawed because if she believed her was fine, she'd say, see you in the supreme court to the uk. she hasn't. she's she's turned into this reason why we need a referendum, which for the snp , referendum, which for the snp, whether it's if it's raining, it's whether it's if it's raining, wsfime whether it's if it's raining, it's time for a referendum, sunny time for referendum. but this kind of obsession with every issue being about a referendum , an issue where the referendum, an issue where the pubuc referendum, an issue where the public are not convinced. now if nicholas sturgeon wants to make major like this and based them on a human rights framework , she on a human rights framework, she needs to take the public with

and i think she is smarting that rishi sunak and alister jack the scottish secretaries, the tory prime minister, the tory social secretary are actually speaking for the scottish voters and. she isn't and this could well be very big, big moment. and skocpol politics. yeah, i think for a lot of women and people that it's more fundamental than anything that nicholas cannon has been suggesting the idea that one can just simply self the agenda flies in the face of common sense for so many women andifs common sense for so many women and it's dilutes in my view at least it means to be woman. anyway, i must read out what the prison service spokesman has said. he says decisions by the sps as to the most appropriate location to accommodate transgender people are made on an individualised basis informed by a multidistrict disciplinary assessment of both risk and needs. such decisions seek protect both the well—being and rights of the individual as well as the welfare and rights of others around them, including in order to achieve outcome that

balances risks and promotes the safety of all. and that is exactly what has happened in this case. one might say after a huge of media pressure anyway , huge of media pressure anyway, on to a new topic in order to fill vacancies in the british economy , government is economy, government is reportedly planning to allow foreign students to work longer hours. students from overseas are currently limited to 20 hours of paid work. a week, but discussions are underway to raise that limit to 30 hours or to remove it altogether. however, the plans to undermine home secretary suella braverman pledge to reduce the foreign numbers in the uk as the plans could make these visas more attractive to those wanting to work. here nina, i'll go to you first. what's your initial on this? do you think it's a good idea to let students on their visas over here work as long as they well , i don't really have they well, i don't really have too much of a problem with to be honest. i think uk university a bigger problems on their hands namely attracting enough good

foreign students to come and study here because think the reputation of uk universities is in danger precisely because they are increasingly perceived to be disallow free speech and genuine inquiry. so that's bigger problem from from my point of view. but i, you know, i to work in universities i see any particular problem i mean there is a kind of problem when students don't have enough money, they do too much work. so they study enough . but i they don't study enough. but i don't think this is the issue to be worried about, to be honest. well, john, we have seen cases as sort of sham courses being as of sort of sham courses being set up essentially as a way for people to usurp the normal system and get in and work here and then live for many years afterwards . it's essentially afterwards. it's essentially it's a it's a way to come into this country that can be abused . it's right. the suella braverman is at least seeking to address that issue . well, look address that issue. well, look i think all immigration systems have loopholes and they're

exploited by people , people who exploited by people, people who want to be in the. you can look it's not an ignoble ambition to want to live in the with the greatest country in the world. i'm not surprised a lot of people want come and live here. what i think at the centre of this decision is something very interesting is the confusion. what do the government actually think the role of universities is it to be a driver economy and therefore you want to bring the best, the brightest from all of our communities actually try and attract globally best international students because we know the silicon valley , the we know the silicon valley, the bay area, the growth there has been by massive migration of the top talent to from all around the world to america. we need to have a part that if we're going to be a post—brexit country , but to be a post—brexit country, but then you have this other push, which is we should be limiting the number of people. what was it, 504,000 was net migration in last that's a lot of last year. that's a lot of people not all students people. that is not all students . and then there's the final thing we've touched on, thing which we've touched on, which i mean , once you

which is, i mean, once you start, you take a cap off, if start, if you take a cap off, if you raise it to 30 hours, in a sense you've got people doing a full time job, nearly a full time job and doing full time time job and doing a full time course. going to be hard course. that's going to be hard on them their studies on them hard in their studies and hard the people and maybe hard the people they study is the role study with. so what is the role of the university in the 21st century is a huge question for me. i think it's a massive of levelling up if it's not like sunderland university, i think educates local people and it creates local businesses and spinoffs from it. so how do we get how, do we get that bit right rather than this feels like it is. but again in the foreign students we're charging them high fees they can't quite afford the high fees we need the high fees we need to change the system to let them get enough money to pay high fees were charging them now that starting on should be making on the basis should be making people pay the high fees well shouldn't starting with what the point of the university. mm. well there are many well i think there are many different points to what a university is but at the moment many chancellors , many vice chancellors, chancellors you that

chancellors would tell you that they enough of they don't enough money and of course the freeze in tuition fees is one of the reasons for that. but course many people do not want to be spending than £9,000 as a domestic student on a service that well be a service that may well be disrupted . university workers disrupted. university workers are currently going on strike. so that's another thing that's damaging the reputation of some of our universities, arguably . of our universities, arguably. but the government has framed this, nina, as something that would a boost to the economy would be a boost to the economy . surely, you know, some foreign students being able to up their isn't the key to our future and success no , i think the numbers success no, i think the numbers are too small . it's kind of an are too small. it's kind of an irrelevant . see, i mean, this irrelevant. see, i mean, this sort of fiddling with numbers address sort of genuine concerns about how we relate to the rest of the world, you know, our own economy . jones very good point economy. jones very good point about what a university is for all these things are kind of, you know much, much, much bigger questions and a few foreign

working a couple of more hours is not going to touch that . yes, is not going to touch that. yes, john, i do think well, this is this is moving away from the question slightly, but do you believe they are to dependent on foreign students . it's a good foreign students. it's a good question i think they are too dependent on fees to survive in the modern world and that's it there's a mismatch there which is we've we've got going wrong in the system where the pensions aren't affordable by the universities the pay for universal city lectures is on competitive compared to other things and therefore you're not getting the supply of excellent , excellent teachers coming into university . and you've got the university. and you've got the situation where. we have students with massive debt onto a labour market where. they have to pay high rents. and if they, you know, they're being squeezed , the possibility of owning a home and something going wrong

when young people doing the right thing, improving their skills end up in situation where they can't get themselves the kind of good life that previous generations got, which is a good job saver. it was a fire house. and this get on on the ladder of life. and i think that for me is the worry that this is not this an integrate problem. it's not this one element of it. and solve it every single piece seems to be contributing to it being more difficult than it should be. so, you know, i'm hesitant to call her royal commissions, but like it a proper thinking through rather than this one, this initiative and absolutely i don't believe more foreign students in bars and restaurants is a solution for the uk productivity and growth problem . no. well, all i growth problem. no. well, all i can say is i'm glad that i didn't have to pay £9,000 a yeah didn't have to pay £9,000 a year. i think i was the last year. i think i was the last year of th e £3,000 a year, which year of the £3,000 a year, which will make a difference. i imagine many students never pay back this loans at all, so it

won't even go back to the treasury anyway. moving on to our final debate. actor alan cumming has returned the obe he was awarded in 2009 as part of the queen's birthday birthday honours list . in a post on honours list. in a post on instagram, the actor said how he opened his eyes to toxicity of the british empire, saying his soul searching was prompted by the death of queen elizabeth ii and the conversations the event sparked . john, you're going to sparked. john, you're going to go work on me and this and say we should all hand back our obi's. there were rumours. i'm going to go with him. this is all. it's time to. end the obe , all. it's time to. end the obe, the cbe and the movie and. let's this. let's take the empire of our honour system. have a proper system. have an order the uk and you can be a member of the uk. you can be like you can have a whole of rights in it, but let's rid of this and imperial vestige . the british empire had a

disgraceful history is one we should be apologise to for not celebrating it. well, hang on. nina had a mixed history. some might say, and do we want to do away with tradition? just because a few people find offensive ? no, i don't think so offensive? no, i don't think so . i think we have to see this in the context, a kind of celebrity gesture that may have other i think the more pressing question, for example, would be one of censorship. so nigel biggar, who's recently attempted to a book, a balanced book about empire, been censored by his publisher which was reported today. publisher which was reported today . and i think let's have a today. and i think let's have a discussion empire empire is a lot longer than the 18 years or however since alan cumming received his hoping it in the first place. so i think there are kind of serious questions we could have about the legacy , could have about the legacy, about the meaning, about how relate to our own country if we're born here or if we live here . but yeah, it's we're born here or if we live here. but yeah, it's i'm we're born here or if we live here . but yeah, it's i'm not we're born here or if we live here. but yeah, it's i'm not in favour of necessarily a scrapping tradition, i think. i

think we need to ask questions which traditions of meaningful and to who. i must say the publisher denies that. i must say , nina, right? yes, sure. say, nina, right? yes, sure. let's it's an ongoing question, but nigel biggar has just described his attempt get this text, which was originally accepted, published. it's an ongoing case. so it seems clear. but i think , you know, it's but i think, you know, it's obvious that when people try to have a balanced discussion about empire , that they run into empire, that they run into trouble quickly. it's very fashionable to simply say, oh, no, it was all it was all evil. and i don't it's very hard to say that about many things in human history. know some things we will condemn unequivocally and some things are more complicated. i just think it was a way for this particular to get a way for this particular to get a bit of . it does seem as soon a bit of. it does seem as soon as you make a trendy opinion apparent in the media, you get lots of free press and i'm sure he'll be invited to some more

awards ceremonies and whatnot . awards ceremonies and whatnot. anyway, we must finish there. that was, of course, political strategist former political strategist and former political secretary for tony blair, john mcternan and senior mcternan with us. and senior editor compact magazine , nina editor at compact magazine, nina power in the studio . thank you power in the studio. thank you very much indeed . i believe we very much indeed. i believe we are now going to a. break and i hope you're enjoying weekend so far. i'm jonathan vaught. here is your latest update from the met office. we will see the winds strengthening across northern areas of the uk into sunday. but for now winds are relatively light thanks to high pressure. that's pushing its way across the uk . do just have to across the uk. do just have to watch out for this cold front. the sinking southwards. is the sinking southwards. it is bringing rain and bringing some patchy rain and drizzle some areas and that will move way into wales central move its way into wales central areas england into this areas of england into this evening but is fairly cloudy throughout night. there could be some clear spells during the evening across northern ireland. parts of scotland, northern england allow patchy england that will allow patchy frost but as the frost to develop. but as the cloud its in and the cloud fills its way in and the breeze begins strengthen, we will see temperatures more

around single in around low single figures. in most cities . but into most towns and cities. but into the start of sunday morning, this is when we'll really start to see those winds strengthening across the northwest as more expansive of rain begins to push its this could be heavy its way in. this could be heavy at we start the day at times as we start the day elsewhere. the rain and elsewhere. once the rain and drizzle does eventually clear its way to the south. sunday will be a largely dry day, but end a one. just the odd end of a one. just the odd bright here there. bright spell here and there. temperatures holding up around 8 to 9 degrees across southern areas , but actually ten, 11, areas, but actually ten, 11, maybe even 12 degrees for the likes of aberdeen with those winds coming up from the south until tomorrow evening. then that frontal system is going to gradually push across. gradually push its way across. many areas we'll see some many areas will we'll see some clearer develop behind that but also a of showers pushing in for scotland 50 mile an hour gusts associated these showers and some hail in as well. but by the time we get to monday morning, that front will eventually clear its off across areas so many its way off across areas so many us the start of the new working week is looking a fairly pleasant one with some sunny

intervals in there now, thanks to the of high pressure as to the ridge of high pressure as we move throughout rest of we move throughout the rest of the our attentions turn to the week, our attentions turn to this pressure centre and this low pressure centre and that the east. of that squeeze in the east. of course, across scotland could provide blustery provide some fairly blustery and windy particularly windy conditions, particularly towards tuesday . so towards the end of tuesday. so just out for that. goodbye just watch out for that. goodbye i'm michael portillo, join me on gb news on a sunday morning for topical discussion debate arts and culture and sometimes even ethical dilemmas. i don't always with you, michael. michael portillo sundays on gb news the people's channel. britain's news

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i'd be believed i must have weighed about seven stone and i'm 548. my instincts was to sort of cover this up. i'm in truth, that was a mistake. join me every sunday at 6 pm. on gb news. use the people's britain's news . news. channel good afternoon. it's 3 pm. welcome to real britain with me emily carver on tv online and digital radio now plenty coming up on today's program. but first we have to get to the news with bethany elsey . emily, thank you bethany elsey. emily, thank you . good afternoon. it'sjust . good afternoon. it's just gone. 3:00 on bethany elsey with . your top stories from the gb newsroom 276 fly staff have been redundant with the airline going administration for the second time in three years, around

75,000 people have had their bookings cancelled and the uk civil aviation authority is urging the koreas customers not to travel to airports or fly the return to the skies april after it collapsed 2020, operating flights on 21 routes to 17 destinations as the sun's travel editor lisa minot confident the workers will find new jobs, flights are hugely in demand and. what we saw last summer, of course was the fact that actually flights were having to be because they didn't have enough and are desperate now for staff. so i think it's to be a positive story in a positive outcome for the 340 and 240 employees of the new flybe. i think they will definitely get jobs very quickly because as you say, a whole the sector is really recovering well. there's a huge demand for travel even with this cost of living crisis , murder investigation has , a murder investigation has been launched after a 15 year old girl was stabbed in. hexham,

a 16 year old boy, is in hospital after suffering serious. but life threatening injuries with northumbria police saying it followed suspected assault. the force says a 16 year old boy has been arrested and remains in police custody custody . keir starmer says custody. keir starmer says labour has reformed his leadership, addressing london labour conference, he told the message at the next election must be that the is different to one britain rejected in 2019. he also warned complacency and vowed to build a fairer, greener britain, promising to put the country first. britain is crying for change, crying out for decisive leadership. and we must provide it. prove that we can be a bold, reforming government show, not what the tories have done to britain but the british. but labour build a fairer , but labour build a fairer, greener, more dynamic country with the economy that works for everyone not just those at the

top and the politics which trust with the power to control their own destiny . former minister own destiny. former minister lord peter mandelson says labour must stay focussed on the election . the biggest risk is election. the biggest risk is that we take the next two elections in the bag that we relax, we take it for granted. no, no, no we have to maintain our absolute focus on voters particularly those voters who have yet to be convinced that labour does offer a credible united, progressive alternative for our country. united, progressive alternative for our country . the united, progressive alternative for our country. the head of united, progressive alternative for our country . the head of the for our country. the head of the rmt union says its members will make a decision on whether to accept latest and final offer from the rail delivery group by the 8th of february. mick lynch . the union is holding discussions with members across the country over next ten days. but he told gb news the terms of the offer aren't great and he doesn't feel optimistic. we've got is a really poor offer . the got is a really poor offer. the pay got is a really poor offer. the pay offer is below less than

half of the rate inflation these two years. inflation is running over 20 to 23% in the retail price index. this is 9% over two years and we had no offer for three years before that. so people are getting poorer and at the same time their conditions and their working lives have been trampled all over. so i'm quite suspicious about what's going on and i don't know if our members would be to accept it . members would be to accept it. graphic bodycam footage has been released in the us showing police in memphis a black man who died three days later. a warning some people may find the following distressing. you right , mama mama . you don't give me , mama mama. you don't give me 29 year old tyree nichols was kicked punched and sprayed as he cried out his mother. five black officers have been sacked and are all facing murder charges .

are all facing murder charges. president joe biden says , he's president joe biden says, he's outraged and has called for an end to police misconduct . a end to police misconduct. a former conservative party chair says a number of members feel were denied. a vote on. rishi sunak becoming prime minister in an interview with gb news, jake berry says mr. sunak should held an endorsement vote during leadership contest to show had the support of the membership . i the support of the membership. i think even though he absolutely got the majority of mps the conservative members of parliament and i support him as minister. everything he does there is a challenge he is even it's not true. there's a perception of the conservative parliamentary now being disconnected from our membership because we didn't have , even if because we didn't have, even if it was a sort of endorsement vote . and you can see that full vote. and you can see that full interview with jake berry on glory meets at 6 pm. tomorrow. you're up date on gb news. we'll bnng you're up date on gb news. we'll bring you more news. it happens

now. let's get back to . now. let's get back to. emily yes, welcome back , real britain. yes, welcome back, real britain. here's what's coming up. yes, welcome back, real britain. here's what's coming up . the here's what's coming up. the show now over . 100 charities show now over. 100 charities have written the prime minister calling for an end to housing child asylum seekers in hotels after about 200 reportedly went missing . calling it a child missing. calling it a child protection the charities are calling on the government to find alternate housing for them and prevent children being trafficked into criminal gangs . trafficked into criminal gangs. what do you think? send in thoughts. it's been reported that prince andrew had been kicked out of palace by his brother, king charles and told he must look for a new place live if he wants to stay in. is this the right move from king or should he have kept prince andrew the palace? then later on, the chancellor, jeremy hunt, has it unlikely that has warned it unlikely that there room for there will be room for significant cuts in the

significant tax cuts in the budget. but with inflation coming down and natural gas pnces coming down and natural gas prices plummeting, i'll be asking world leading economist shanker singham he thinks tax cuts could be on the table. can we afford them ? that's what we afford them? that's what we're talking about for the next. i'd love to know your thoughts on today's topics. please at gb news. you please tweet me at gb news. you can email me on gb views gbnews.uk. of course you can watch us online too. on i'll be back in just one moment. watch us online too. on i'll be back in just one moment . yes, back in just one moment. yes, more than 100 charities have called for an end to housing child asylum seekers in hotels . child asylum seekers in hotels. the news comes after the immigration minister said about 200 child migrants, mostly teenage boys, had gone missing . teenage boys, had gone missing. 2021. leader the house of commons penny mordaunt said we've, had stories of gangmasters turning at hotels that they know asylum seekers are staying at, taking people away. it is for a very obvious , away. it is for a very obvious, very hard to protect people in that kind environment. we that kind of environment. so we have address this. so should

have to address this. so should child migrants not be kept in hotels ? if not, where should hotels? if not, where should they be kept instead? joining me in the studio, stephen wolf. he's the director for centre for migration and economic prosperity thinktank . and we prosperity thinktank. and we have immigration lawyer from firm of artists, ivan. now stephen in the studio with me this . i stephen in the studio with me this. i i've seen these stephen in the studio with me this . i i've seen these hotels this. i i've seen these hotels there some that are local to me and there doesn't seem to be much security at all it's not surprising really that some children those under the age of 18 have either absconded been snatched . well, there's no proof snatched. well, there's no proof that anyone's been snatched and there's no proof. the police reports both in britain and across the country and, indeed also supported by the home office, that there have been any snatching or , indeed anyone snatching or, indeed anyone involved in the absconding has been related to that kind of criminality. this has been a statement made by an unnamed individual through a

whistleblowers to the press . and whistleblowers to the press. and it's not surprising that there is those people are wanting to try and use such as those charities to try and drive a wedge into government policy. but what i would add is this from the missing persons charity, they said . in 2020, charity, they said. in 2020, 1200 children had . and 1200 children had. and disappeared, 400 disappeared and have no evidence of where they've gone from our care. that's more than those in the hotels. secondly all those people who are the hotels are giving exactly the same type of training and responsibilities as those that the local authorities have in those care homes. and there is no difference the policy of those care homes, the that allows those children to have freedom of movement in and out of those homes . so even if out of those homes. so even if you were in a care home or anything run by local authority , those same gangs, if it was true what penny mordaunt was saying, would be able to take those children away. that would make no difference. in fact, in

many ways, they're safer in the hotels because there's more staff. ivan we say with certainty that these hundred child migrants are , in fact, child migrants are, in fact, children . well they've been children. well they've been assessed by social services under what's called the rules that they must have two social workers assess and provide an age report to the home office . age report to the home office. the problem is when you get children who are 16 or 17. it's very to make an accurate quite often government's own figures are they get it wrong, about two thirds of the time there are scientific we have to determine age. unfortunately, the government is not using them although they've been saying this for over 12 months. they would bring them in every. child should be age assessed, not just those where there's age dispute because once a child is aged is assessed . the government has

assessed. the government has a duty of care under the children's act to care of that child to offer supervision , child to offer supervision, accommodation and care and education until they're . so education until they're. so until we know how a child is, even if a child is saying it's safe on, the ten let's say it's easy to say. that's a child. the average child should be assessed and the government is simply not doing that. ivan four years we've had cases of child not in fact being children and actually being placed in things like secondary schools. why these age assessments not well currently happening . it's not working the happening. it's not working the system we have was sets out through a case called the met and principles and that case sets out the guidance that the home office use. so they are workers to assess and they use a combination of interviews and any documents they have not very accurate. we need proper assessment of every child who

across. what worries me is this response that there's no evidence that the children are missing . there's no evidence how missing. there's no evidence how many are missing? there's evidence they've trafficked evidence they've been trafficked or of absconded. would be saying that if there were one ukrainian children and i'm afraid there is definitely because it's mostly children from albania or , all children from albania or, all the other kinds of afghan afghanis and iraq and those countries that we seem to give them sort of second rate citizens, a second rate treatment if child should be protected by this government. ivan must. steve, stephen, come back on that because you've you've accused him essentially of potentially being. well, i wouldn't want to say racist, xenophobic in one way or another. well no, it's discrimination . what i call i discrimination. what i call i wouldn't call it racist . what wouldn't call it racist. what i call on the basis of less than the basis where they come from . the basis where they come from. stephen well, on the basis i did not say they missing. what i did say, there is no evidence that

have been abducted or people trafficked because the police have suggest that there is no evidence to that . home office evidence to that. home office has made very clear statements to that. there is clear evidence that they are. but also made that they are. but i also made very clearly, ivan, a statement that 1200 children have been removed or gone missing from a care homes across the country. now, i don't know the colour race or of any of them. my concern is that there should be people looking after those children and whether you want to take them from hotels to care homes the same issue people going missing will occur with them. it is nothing to do with them. it is nothing to do with the colour. it's about the fact that these will still go missing wherever . they are. and if wherever. they are. and if they're involved with albanian gangs, as 8% of these children are supposedly involved, that's the issue we should be tracking down those albanian gangs and identifying what deals have been donein identifying what deals have been done in order to bring those children and make them claim themselves as children. ivan

what difference in treatment is that the initial policy of putting children into hotels was a temporary measure 18 months on. we're still putting children in hotels now . that's a breach in hotels now. that's a breach of this government's duty of care towards . these children and care towards. these children and so the government has failed. may i just ask question ivan? well, that gets to the crux of this conversation. where should they be staying? they're not in hotels because obviously we've had huge, huge numbers of people crossing the channel and i believe there were 1000 in one day. just the other day. where do people go? where can go if not hotels ? well, it's they are not hotels? well, it's they are children. and this is a problem where the government's getting it wrong , assessing these it wrong, assessing these individuals ages. but if they're genuine children, they should go into foster care or temporary care and eventually permanent foster care if possible. they need to be sent to school. they

need to be sent to school. they need to be sent to school. they need to have a education and all of the opportunities that are required under the act, which the government is obliged to do. it's statutory provision . but it's statutory provision. but steve, i mean, people will be listening to this and thinking, well, there are many, many british children for foster care waiting in our social care system who haven't been placed in yet. two haven't been placed with a family. why should children who come over the channel be prioritised? i don't think they should be priorities .then think they should be priorities . then the first point that occurs before you going to foster care is you're assessed care homes, which goes to a point the children can disappear . secondly, there is not enough foster across the country to actually deal those children who are currently in the system. they're there. we also have a quarter of a million people living bedsits who have children who are not being looked after. perhaps one of the things that i even ought to do is offer himself to be foster carer and

take one of those children as. does those who support the policy taking them out of hotels? i see them running quickly to doors of either the department of health, the home office or any other agency offering themselves up in those circumstance . it's the very circumstance. it's the very difficult decisions governments making on the fact making is based on the fact there not space in the there not enough space in the hotels and they have to find a way yet their hotels and they have to find a way yet thei r £15,000 a year for way yet their £15,000 a year for every child that is taken into a local authority that is more that much money being given to those who are currently in the foster care system. now, ivan, lastly , of course, we wouldn't lastly, of course, we wouldn't have this issue if the government were able to stop the small boats from coming over in the first place. what would first thing you would do? what would first thing you would would the first thing you would do in of the home do if you were in of the home office in charge government office in charge the government to boats from coming. to stop the boats from coming. then wouldn't children then we wouldn't have children absconding trafficked absconding or being trafficked or being stolen, kidnapped from hotels . we need a bilateral hotels. we need a bilateral treaty with france. we need a wider treaty with the countries

that border france as well. this is an international problem. if you going a country where you can seek asylum, you should seek asylum there. we need proper channels. a way to put people claim asylum without physically being in this country. and we need annual quotas to take refugees . we don't take enough refugees. we don't take enough refugees. we don't take enough refugees . that is the problem. refugees. that is the problem. we should be taking at least 100,000 refugees every year equivalent to other countries of , our size and wealth. but we don't . the difference is , are don't. the difference is, are more visible coming in in boats. they've been coming across on the same numbers for a lost decade before it was on lorries. now it's boats. we can see them now hitting headlines, but i'm glad it is because this problem needs to be resolved. steve, very quick, final word. well, i would certainly not have an open door to a system . we bring in door to a system. we bring in migrants from across the globe into the uk without international agreement. i can agree with ivan on this, but first of all, it must be

beginning with the amendment of the un refugees to actually deal with the definition of illegal migration rather than those who are genuine asylum seekers. we must ourselves from the must remove ourselves from the european of human rights european court of human rights and amend the slavery laws and the act to look the the rights act to look at the modern situation we have vis a vis the that we're using it to just allow themselves to come across here clearly they across here when clearly they are refugees . and are not genuine refugees. and thirdly, is no in this thirdly, there is no in this decade that france will ever agree to agreement with us, which means that migrants in that country, rather than come across us. well, then you go two very different approaches . the very different approaches. the problem. please do. at home. me know who you agree with ? that know who you agree with? that was, of course, stephen wolf, director of the centre for migration and economic, and ivan samson down the line immigration lawyer. you very much lawyer. thank you very much indeed. now, later on the show, we'll be discussing the decision made by hackney council to introduce six more low neighbourhoods which will ban most from driving through 75% of its roads . also bicycles about

its roads. also bicycles about the no cars . and it got me the no cars. and it got me thinking there must be some other bonkers schemes put place by local councils across the country . so i wanted to find out country. so i wanted to find out more. so i took to twitter and asked what's the most nonsensical thing your local council has done ? most of you council has done? most of you have sent in your council mishaps. paul my council put 20 mile per hour speed signs in a ten yard cul de sac . good use of ten yard cul de sac. good use of money there , i think. bill money there, i think. bill fabian says my council gave out new, bigger food waste bins but kept the line of bags at their original small size . they didn't original small size. they didn't fit. another epic fail from a local council there. leslie said my local council there. leslie said my council put up several games signs across , my council estate. signs across, my council estate. everyone lives here is 58. never once seen someone play a game. you go the little nanny state tariffs which are local councils. anyway, dan said my councils. anyway, dan said my council says it wants ban meat in schools . why? he asks . well,

in schools. why? he asks. well, why indeed. i heard meat is quite good for children. keeps them strong anyway. thank you very much indeed for sending in your views we'll be discussing more council lunacy later on in the show . do stay in touch. stay the show. do stay in touch. stay tuned . so i got a bit of a tuned. so i got a bit of a stutter there. stay tuned till it now. plenty more to come this afternoon on, real britain. after the break. it's been reported that prince andrew had been kicked out of buckingham palace by his brother, king and told look for a new told he must look for a new place to live he wants to place to live if he wants to stay in london. is this the right from the king or right move from the king or should have kept prince should he have kept prince andrew in the palace. but first, let's a look at weather let's have a look at the weather now . hello there. hope you're now. hello there. hope you're enjoying your weekend so far. i'm jonathan autry here with your latest weather update from the met office. we increasingly see wind strengthen across see the wind strengthen across northern of the uk. into northern areas of the uk. into sunday. but for now, winds are relatively light thanks high relatively light thanks to high pressure that's pushing way pressure that's pushing its way across do just to across the uk. we do just to watch out for this cold front,

the slowly sinking southwards, it some patchy rain it is bringing some patchy rain and to areas. and and drizzle to some areas. and that its way into that will move its way into wales, areas england wales, central areas of england into evening. it is into this evening. but it is remaining fairly throughout the night. be some clear night. there be some clear spells during the evening across northern ireland, parts of scotland, england will scotland, northern england will allow to develop. allow patchy frost to develop. but fills its way but as the cloud fills its way in and. the breeze begins to strengthen. we see temperatures more single in most more around low single in most towns and cities but into the start of sunday morning, this is when we'll really start to see those winds strengthening across the as more expansive the northwest as more expansive of rain begins to push its way in this could certainly be heavy at start of the day at times as we start of the day elsewhere . once the rain and elsewhere. once the rain and drizzle does eventually clear its way off to the south and they will largely dry day, they will be a largely dry day, but cloudy just the but another cloudy one. just the odd, here. and then odd, bright spell here. and then wise holding around to nine wise holding up around to nine degrees, of course , seven areas, degrees, of course, seven areas, but actually ten, 11, maybe even 12 degrees for the likes of aberdeen with those winds coming up from the south until tomorrow evening , then that frontal evening, then that frontal system gradually system is going to gradually push across many areas .

push its way across many areas. we will see some clearer spells develop also a rash of develop that, but also a rash of showers pushing in for scotland . mile an hour gusts associated with showers some hail in with showers and some hail in there . well, by the time we there. well, but by the time we get to monday morning, that front will clear its way off across an area. so for many us, the start of the new working week is like a fairly pleasant one with some sunny intervals in there. now, thanks to the ridge of high pressure we move of high pressure as we move throughout rest of week, throughout the rest of the week, attentions low attentions turn to this low pressure centre squeezing pressure centre that's squeezing the course across the ice. of course across scotland some scotland could provide some fairly blustery and windy conditions , particularly towards conditions, particularly towards the tuesday . so just the end of tuesday. so just watch out for that. good bye sunday's on gb news from 930 it's camilla tominey for a politics show with then at 11 michael portillo for topical discussion debate some ethical dilemmas and sometimes even a sense of the ridiculous. and at 1 pm. me i was sense of the ridiculous. and at 1p.m. me i was there sense of the ridiculous. and at 1 pm. me i was there stuart every sunday on gb news on the

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yes welcome back . this is real yes welcome back. this is real britain on gb news on your tv, onune britain on gb news on your tv, online and on radio. now the king has made clear to prince andrew that buckingham palace is no place for the duke of york. according to royal source, prince andrew reportedly been forced out of his flat in the palace after having his office that closed last year. palace after having his office that closed last year . the news that closed last year. the news comes as rumours suggest andrew is planning to launch legal challenge against virginia after he settled with her over her civil sexual case. he's always denied giuffre's claims and did not accept culpability in the settlement , of course. now settlement, of course. now joining me is royal commentator michael cole . do you think this michael cole. do you think this royal source is correct michael?

emily emily, those people at buckingham palace. on they're going to be pulling their hair out at this development that this case be climbing out of its coffin and throwing a shadow across the coronation, which is only 98 days away now . you will only 98 days away now. you will remember lawyers acting for andrew last year within year, entered freely an agreement in a manhattan courtroom to pay sums of money. this is a was a civil case settled by money exchange of known as damages . it wasn't a of known as damages. it wasn't a criminal case which is settled by jail time on conviction and a sum said to 12 million, 10 million, 7 million or even 3 million, 7 million or even 3 million was paid to mrs. giuffre , who now lives in australia with her husband . and that was with her husband. and that was thought to be the end of it and

it was thought to tidy the matter away before the platinum jubilee. but it's coming back and the prince, it is said , is and the prince, it is said, is going to challenge this agreement that he freely entered into. now he's going to do that. he's to have to prove that there was some sort of or coercion or duress for some sort of malicious falsehood . now, the malicious falsehood. now, the judge in manhattan isn't going to like the fact that his court was used in that way to agree this agreement. so what will happen remains to be seen. we very, very interesting developments. and if you will allow me to speculate, i will speculate about prince andrew thinks has a case of over turning a settlement, which he fully and freely agreed last year. fully and freely agreed last year . please do well , it fully and freely agreed last year. please do well, it seems to be that mrs. giuffre, who .

to be that mrs. giuffre, who. a 17 year old who is of virginia roberts, and she said she was sexually by prince andrew in london and new york and on the island of little st james in the caribbean. and she at the time also accused a man called alan dershowitz. now, alan dershowitz is a very famous lawyer in america . he defended clause von america. he defended clause von bulow. he also defended o.j. bulow. he also defended oj. simpson . bulow. he also defended oj. simpson. he's a bulow. he also defended oj. simpson . he's a professor of law simpson. he's a professor of law at harvard. and he said immediately that the accusation against him was false. and subsequent late mrs. jeffrey did remember that she falsely remembered and she agreed that she'd identified to him wrongly. so i think the lawyers of andrew are going to try and say that if she remembered , mr. dershowitz she remembered, mr. dershowitz wrongly, then perhaps she remembered prince andrew wrongly . and it all comes down to that photograph allegedly in the belgravia mews house of

ghislaine maxwell, belgravia mews house of ghislaine maxwell , the prince ghislaine maxwell, the prince apparently having his hand around the bare midriffs of the 17 year old of virginia roberts with with ms. maxwell in the background, smiling . the background, smiling. the photograph, a flashlight photograph, a flashlight photograph apparently taken by jeffrey epstein. now has happened subsequently and this is interesting. you have in maxwell of course michael must i must say that of course she's not here to defend herself. we must we put that side for balance sake and for legal reasons . course. may i get you reasons. course. may i get you quickly on the telegraph's front page today , which i'm sure page today, which i'm sure you've seen the exclusive , the you've seen the exclusive, the photo of julian maxwell's lawyers, which they claim shows the bath allegation against print out andrew. prince andrew could not have happened . what do could not have happened. what do you make of that? well it's bizarre. and that's what i was trying tell you here, maxwell noelle, brother of gilad , said noelle, brother of gilad, said this photograph was taken when she was facing just in new york last year and she was sentenced 20 years, if you remember , for

20 years, if you remember, for trafficking girls. he said that that was taken to prove with a couple of models taking places of prince andrew, uncle michael , i'm so terribly sorry. i've i have to end the interview there because we have to go to the news. but as i've i'd love to speak you again very, very soon. that was, of course royal commentator michael cole. sorry interrupt you there. you with gb news tv on radio . after news on tv on dab radio. after the the chancellor, the break, the chancellor, jeremy has warned jeremy hunt, has warned it is unlikely there be room unlikely that there will be room for significant tax cuts in for any significant tax cuts in the budget. with inflation the budget. but with inflation coming natural prices coming down and natural prices plummeting, asking world plummeting, i'll be asking world leading shankar leading economist shankar singham if he thinks tax cuts could be the table. but could be on the table. but first, let's the news first, let's get the news headunes first, let's get the news headlines bethany elsey . headlines with bethany elsey. emily, thank you. good it's just on 3:30. i'm with your top stories from the gb newsroom 276 flybe staff have been made

redundant with the airline going into for the second time in three years. around 75,000 people have had their flights cancelled and the uk civil aviation is urging customers not to travel to airports. flybe returned to the skies last april after it collapsed in 2020. operating flights on 21 routes to 17 destinations. a murder investigation has been launched after a 15 year old girl was stabbed hexham. a 16 year old stabbed hexham. a16 year old boy is also in hospital after suffering serious but not life threatening injuries , with threatening injuries, with northumbria police saying it followed a suspected assault. the force says a 16 year old boy has been arrested and remains in police custody and the head of the rmt union says its will make a decision on whether accept the latest and final offer from the rail delivery group by the 8th of february. mick lynch says the union is discussions with members across the country over

the next ten days. but he told the next ten days. but he told the terms of the offer are really poor and he doesn't feel optimal stick . and sir keir optimal stick. and sir keir starmer says labour has reformed under his leadership . addressing under his leadership. addressing the london labour conference , he the london labour conference, he said the message at the next general must be that the party is different to the one that britain rejected 2019. he also vowed to build a fairer greener country and told members not to be complacent . you're up to date be complacent. you're up to date on online and derby plus , this on online and derby plus, this is gb news. emily will be back with you in just a moment.

welcome back. this is real britain gb news on tv online and on digital radio . the chancellor on digital radio. the chancellor has said it is unlikely that there will be significant tax

cuts in the budget and that he will prioritise tax cuts for businesses once there is the headroom to do so. he added that the best tax cut right now is a cut in inflation, as he reiterated, the government's pledge to halve inflation. he also added that the uk must take advantage of brexit freedoms to the warned against the economy and warned against economic doom and a decline ism mentality . so is now not the mentality. so is now not the time for large tax cuts and has the government wasted provided by brexit? joining me is shanker singham. he is the ceo of coimbatore and the former adviser , the uk trade secretary adviser, the uk trade secretary and the us representative. no one better to talk to on this . one better to talk to on this. firstly, on the tax cuts issue, he spoke about how we shouldn't be doom and gloom about the economy, but presumably having a very high tax burden which dilutes our tax competitiveness on the international stage at least is a bit of a gloomy thing to do as chancellor . yes, well,

to do as chancellor. yes, well, great to be , emily. and i think great to be, emily. and i think the issue with taxes , you know, the issue with taxes, you know, you have to look at the whole thing in the round. so you know, the chancellor talked about economic he talked about he talked about productivity. and obviously there's a tax component to it. all of those things. and you need to have he needs to show progress real in all of these areas . you are all of these areas. you are absolutely right. the burden in the uk at the moment is extremely high and it's particularly high for businesses . it's not just about the corporate tax rate, it's about particularly for small , it's particularly for small, it's about all the other taxes that they have to pay , sort of they have to pay, sort of corporate taxes , the payroll corporate taxes, the payroll taxes, etc. and for a lot of small businesses, they're individual founders and owners are also paying very high income tax rate. so if you look at the overall tax burden for a entrepreneur , real firm and entrepreneur, real firm and we're trying in uk to have more entrepreneurial firms. he's talked about silicon valley and so forth. you need to lower the

overall tax burden that feel the timing of that though is a matter of you know discussion but it isn't only taxes think sometimes we get into this discussion it's just about taxes versus no tax changes and actually there is a lot that needs to be done on regulatory reform , lowering the cost of reform, lowering the cost of people's food and transportation, housing, which is all about regulatory reform . is all about regulatory reform. thatis is all about regulatory reform. that is also addition to inflation reduction being tax cut. regulatory reform also be regarded as a tax cut giving businesses the ability , our businesses the ability, our trade policy to accede to access, you know , more markets access, you know, more markets on better terms will cause business to thrive. and that's will help you with your productivity. so it's all of these factors all linked together. and if you . miss one together. and if you. miss one or you get one wrong, the tendency then becomes that the whole , you know, instead of a

whole, you know, instead of a vicious instead of a virtuous circle, you end up with a vicious cycle going down. and unfortunately and the way this is shown, is the productivity numbers we've seen lagging gdp per capita in the uk compared to countries like france , growing countries like france, growing countries like france, growing countries like france, growing countries like the us and north nonh countries like the us and north north america and, asia typically . i north america and, asia typically. i mean, north america and, asia typically . i mean, the final typically. i mean, the final point i'd make on this is, you know, you mentioned he talked about decline ism and some of the numbers that people were around. you know, if you yourself against sluggish like yourself against sluggish like you know france and germany and european member states that aren't that fast you're not really saying that you think britain can the best in the world if you really britain can be the best in the world you'd be the best in the world you'd be benchmark yourself against the fast growing countries that are i i'm not are comparable. i mean, i'm not about developing about small developing countries. talking about the countries. i'm talking about the us. countries. i'm talking about the u.s. i'm talking about countries like australia so on like australia and so, so on where you've seen going back even before financial crisis, you know for decades it's pretty

sluggish gdp per capita growth in uk. so that's why he needs to focus on and is tax part of that absolute is part of that but it's not the only thing yes he talked about seizing brexit freedoms the benefits of brexit lot of people i mean according to the polls there's quite a lot of brexit regret going about and i for one think it's down to the fact that the government hasn't seized those brexit opportunities. isjeremy seized those brexit opportunities. is jeremy them on to do the job what should he to do the job and what should he focus if he's got two focus on if he's only got two years the job. yeah so i years in the job. yeah so i think it's important that brexit by itself know leaving the european union by itself doesn't cause , you know, magical to cause, you know, magical to happen. you've just left the eu. that's all you've done what you do now, you know what kind country you want to be , what you country you want to be, what you want, your regulatory to look like. now you've control of your laws, what want your border management to look like ? what management to look like? what you want your trade policy to look like, how you want to

interact with your trading partners. of this is the partners. all of this is the next stage, right? so if you don't do anything the next stage, you won't going to see any benefits and all you're going to have is the disrupt costs of leaving customs union and the single market, the eu. so i if you look at what the uk done since the leaving of the actual leaving of the eu, we've seen good things on trade policy. you know , i think they policy. you know, i think they are looking at the right types of countries, they are doing the right types of agreements i would give , you know, a six out would give, you know, a six out of ten for that. i'm i think you need to look into whether agreements are truly liberalising . and i think liberalising. and i think there's questions there there's some questions there there's some questions there there . if you look at border there. if you look at border management , there. if you look at border management, you there. if you look at border management , you know, there. if you look at border management, you know, things like the single trade window, all of these things, you know, the great ambition to have the best the world by 2025, which best in the world by 2025, which needs backed by real needs to be backed by real reality and needs, you know, concrete things to be done at speed. concrete things to be done at speed . i'd probably give them

speed. i'd probably give them a six or seven out of ten there, but big issue, the big move on economic development growth is in your domestic regulatory reform, trade and border will give you gains, but you know, they'll be some way off, whereas regulatory reform can you much more immediate gains? i mean think what hong has to do and what the government has to do is deliver to working families lower prices for their energy, their food, their clothing their housing. all of these things . housing. all of these things. that's all in the regulatory reform bucket. and apart from some financial services reforms, which were a good start we've had very little we've had, you know , give them a two out of ten know, give them a two out of ten maybe for that and we need to have a lot less about regulatory reform , a lot more actual reform reform, a lot more actual reform . the good thing is that we have , the retained eu law bill going through that is the first step. the way to about that is that's the first step on a ladder. the ladder has to be climbed and it gets progressively harder the higher up you go. reform is

hard. liz truss discovered how far hold reform is and. it is hard and the government has be brave you know, to do over the next two years. and i would say that, you know the british people demonstrated a significant of bravery and courage in leaving the comfortable arrangements of the eu. now the government needs to back them with an equivalent amount of bravery and courage in facing down all the people who will oppose , because they will will oppose, because they will oppose reform . if you are oppose reform. if you are benefiting the current system and that system is damaging consumers and, is damaging working families, you're not going to suddenly shout out for reform. you're going to, in fact, block reform so it does require a lot of effort and courage to do that. and that's we need to see over the next two years. yes, i'm sure that jeremy hunt screams passion and boldness and risk taking . i boldness and risk taking. i think it's going to be a bit more just management. think it's going to be a bit more just management . well, more just management. well, crisis management, i'm not sure we're going to have that. those

moves that liz truss, at least tried. but thank you very much indeed for joining tried. but thank you very much indeed forjoining us this indeed for joining us this afternoon on britain that afternoon on real britain that was, course, shanker singham, afternoon on real britain that was, comptere, shanker singham, afternoon on real britain that was, comptere, shan advisoriham, afternoon on real britain that was, comptere, shan advisor to m, afternoon on real britain that was, comptere, shan advisor to uk ceo compter former advisor to uk trade secretary and the us trade and the us trade represent . of and the us trade represent. of course they're now moving on every day. more of . also facing every day. more of. also facing the decision between heating and but what about having to make a choice between feeding your children or feeding your beloved pet in months animal welfare shelters been inundated with people who simply afford to take care of their furry friends as they battle the cost of gb news north—west england reporter sophie reaper visited the cats protection centre in warrington to. find out more the care free life of a kitten . but with the life of a kitten. but with the cost of living at such a high not everything is fun . games 62% not everything is fun. games 62% of uk household have a pet whether a dog, a rabbit, a guinea pig or a gorgeous cat

periwinkle animal are a huge part of so many of our lives. but with the cost of living still at crisis levels, could our pets be suffering too? i paid a visit to the warrington of cats protection to find out what kind of impact the cost of living crisis is having we have had and on our waiting lists so in care we roughly look after around 150 to 200 cats across two centres per and we've had an increase of 20% across nationally as well locally on our waiting list as more and more brits struggle to cope , more brits struggle to cope, paying more brits struggle to cope, paying their bills and feeding their families, some are to face their families, some are to face the unthinkable . giving up their the unthinkable. giving up their pet . so what we would suggest if pet. so what we would suggest if somebody has found their in that situation where they need to give up their animals. situation where they need to give up their animals . you can give up their animals. you can get in touch with your local adoption centre or branch and that's what we're here to do, is

to help. we help through adoption again. and you animals, that's what we are here to help with . of course, giving up our with. of course, giving up our pets should always be the last resort, but it's comfort thing to know that places like cats protection every single one of their feline residents given the best care possible , only so best care possible, only so right now i'm just having a lovely little cuddle with a chrysanthemum here and who came into the centre with a number of other cats and from a multi household where the lady had been struggling to pay for the cost of neutering. so the of cats had got out of control for her so . the next steps for him her so. the next steps for him will be that be neutered. he'll be . and when the happy that he's be. and when the happy that he's fully recovered we will find him a loving forever. as she played chrysanthemum, i asked nicola if

she'd notice to the impact of rising costs pet owners the cost of living crisis is really at the moment. i know i would say the moment. i know i would say the majority of the phone calls get now at the centre of needing to rehome their because they can no longer afford to look after them and lots of families ring and tell me that if it's feed the children or feed the cats, then you know it has to be the children that come first. no family to give up their pets but as prices peak budgets break some are being left without a choice . sophie reaper giving is choice. sophie reaper giving is all the little furry left all alone . it was pretty, pretty alone. it was pretty, pretty moving package there from sophie reaper now lots of have been sending in your thoughts on the topics been discussing as you always do want our discussion about conservatives, mark about the conservatives, mark said conservatives be said the conservatives won't be spending time as the opposition because known as

because they will be known as the liberals come the next the new liberals come the next general election. i don't think labour get a majority labour will get a majority enhen labour will get a majority either, i believe will either, as i believe reform will hold balance of power won't hold the balance of power won't be very pleased with that. i think they've been getting high single figures. i don't think going to be enough to get them. mp so knows? who knows? mp so but who knows? who knows? you be right. d says you might be right. d says i could never vote labour because they won't deliver a and they won't deliver a true and full brexit never stop the full brexit will never stop the boats. globalist stalwart boats. a globalist and stalwart doesn't what woman is. doesn't know what a woman is. well there's one strong view there from d i think that's probably true that they may well try to line more and more with the european union. think they've been explicit in that actually the actually lee says joining the eec the worst part the uk could have ever because the single market restrict if and market is restrict if and starmer would take the uk back into the single market after . starmer would take the uk back into the single market after. a sustained gaslit campaign by media without a mandate . that's media without a mandate. that's why i could never vote labour since brexit is a massive for why you at home wouldn't consider voting labour at the next election. i mean keir starmer obviously wants you to

forget, but he very much campaigned for a second referendum and tried to thwart the vote. anyway, some the vote. but anyway, some people have short memories and on government plans allow overseas longer overseas students to work longer hours in says the plan to the hours in says the plan to the hours foreign students are allowed to work highly allowed to work is highly dubious. if a full time student is working 20 hours a week. they are giving full are probably giving full attention studies. if attention to their studies. if the allowance is raised to 30 hours, they're definitely not studying and higher studying properly and higher than that. they are a part time student at best. yes. i think if you were doing a difficult, challenging degree , you wouldn't challenging degree, you wouldn't be able to work over 30 hours a week. that's sure. but there are some degrees that you could do in your sleep perhaps. anyway, thank you all for sending in your views. we're going to be moving to something equally controversial which is the which the plans to expand low traffic neighbourhoods or elton's in the london of hackney they'll ban motorised three traffic from 75% of its routes a public

consultation that's consultation still needs to be held about the proposal from the labour run council. but funding transport for london has been secured. the borough already has the highest number of . elton's borough already has the highest number of. elton's in borough already has the highest number of . elton's in london, number of. elton's in london, but clearly they still want more. elton's a good idea or are they causing unreasonable restrictions for motorists? joining me now is donna chan , joining me now is donna chan, who is climate columnist at the independent, and howard cox back again, the founder of fair fuel uk. howard go to you first. i think i know what you think about elton's all they announce . yes. the complete stupidity . . yes. the complete stupidity. good. a good afternoon like the fundamentally this is a close thing and it's totally motivated it's nothing to with actually so—called saving the planet. i don't he with no doubt attack me regular he does attack me on twitter me a mass murderer because i support he says fossil fuels. but the simple fact of life is that these sort things closing 75% of roads is going to

cause. so much economic damage. it a crass, stupid decision . it it a crass, stupid decision. it is purely political, nothing to do . saving the planet , right? do. saving the planet, right? don't occur. do you think elton is have been a success story count to howard for me yeah sure they're not and they're not party political what they are is they're actually a step in right direction for better neighbourhoods, families the imperial college university has done research on the 73 new elton's have been introduced in london over the last five years and the results are amazing they mount of crashes is done by over 70% amount of pedestrians injured or maimed or killed is down 85% and the amount of traffic is down 50. and with a very rise in the boundary of so what this is what what howard is arguing for is reopening kids straight to through throughput of hgv trucks and the road haulage associate sponsors a

howard cox's organisation and it this is a vested interest trying to destroy our kids streets and it's really not acceptable howard are you putting it putting children at risk by against elton's. putting children at risk by against elton's . yeah well this against elton's. yeah well this is this classic tone occasionally stupidity . i mean, occasionally stupidity. i mean, we got our hiv don't sponsor the anymore you can stop all that mistruths you're passing around about me the simple fact is that let's sit down, work together on the basis of getting a better road. you transport system that is safe everyone and not for economy let's face it hackney's in the middle of the capital of our town, it is city. it's not a green belt. so come on, get real you. get off your horse and cart and start working with me to try get a better future for all of us. you can smile as much as you like going to. but you have been attacking me, rufus for you for too long now. and it's about time you actually take up my offer, sit down round the table and get strong work a way and get strong for work a way forward. they to ask me forward. well, they go to ask me questions. ask him

questions. you ask him a question, does elton's the question, but does elton's the amount of injuries and that children and adults and pedestrians he didn't answer the question he came back with personal attack. if you look at his website, it's clear he says it's sponsored road it's sponsored by the road haulage associations on his website. i can't and don't equate i thank you for mentioning that how it has had his say return. i want to know what you think you've said this is great families, children, is great for families, children, etc, these elections from etc, etc. these elections from what i've read and from research that people have done reporting local journalism, people have found that the elections are damaging the local businesses don't like them. it's pushing pollution in to certain roads and making those roads more congested . so it's not actually congested. so it's not actually cleaning the air it's just shifting it . that's not actually shifting it. that's not actually true and i'm not quoting a campaign group. i'm quoting the imperial college and westminster university studies which have shown that the traffic is down and by amazing family by 37% in within the elections and on the

boundary roads, it's up by 1. a tiny % and as regards business tiny% and as regards business people like howard and the road lobby and the lobby always say it's going to impact businesses, go to waltham forest, but the town centres there are thriving since they introduced elections of all time pass. it's a real success for business is for people and for kate why would you object to streets and better town centres . it doesn't make town centres. it doesn't make sense the only reason why you would argue for it is that a hgv one rat runs through our family . well, hang on. i don't think that's fair. howard, please. lastly give us the last word. why are people campaigning against these? i don't think it's because they want hgv lorries to going 60 miles an lorries to be going 60 miles an hour to stop with them. hour next to a stop with them. howard them. he's howard wants them. he's campaigning now . howard well campaigning now. howard well again he throws out all the time. he shows figures that he says 50, not 80. that's not checked his figures that pathological lies but what's happening in the borough next

door to these tower hamlets they remove low traffic networks because they recognise this damaging the local economy . i damaging the local economy. i said before, everything angle driver wants a brave clean and every driver wants safer roads and streets, but he just use it myopic way and his usual way of attacking . firstly, i'm not attacking. firstly, i'm not attacking. firstly, i'm not attacking him personally , having attacking him personally, having him difference . well, let's not him difference. well, let's not any personal attacks on this thank you very much indeed , thank you very much indeed, gentlemen for joining thank you very much indeed, gentlemen forjoining us this gentlemen for joining us this afternoon to discuss elton's obviously a very heated passionate topic. please do let me know what you think about it. but have to finish though but we have to finish though you've been watching real britain carver. britain with me emily carver. thank much indeed for thank you very much indeed for your show is on your company. the show is on every saturday at p.m. i'll be every saturday at 2 pm. i'll be back next week. i believe but for i will leave you with for now i will leave you with the letter and hello that. i hope you're enjoying your weekend i'm jonathan weekend far. i'm jonathan volterra here your volterra here we have your latest update the met office. we will increasingly see the wind strengthened across northern areas of the uk into sunday. but for now winds are relatively light to high pressure

light thanks to high pressure pushing across the uk . pushing its way across the uk. do just have to watch out for this from snow sinking this cold from the snow sinking southwards. is bringing southwards. it is bringing patchy and drizzle some patchy rain and drizzle to some areas and that will move its way into wales central areas of england but england into this evening. but it remaining cloudy it is remaining cloudy throughout night . there throughout the night. there could be some clear spells dunng could be some clear spells during the evening cos, northern ireland, parts of scotland, northern that allow northern england that will allow patchy to develop. but patchy frost to develop. but the cloud its way in and the cloud fills its way in and the breeze begins strengthen , breeze begins to strengthen, will more will see temperatures more around single figures in around low single figures in most towns and cities but into the start of sunday morning this is when we'll really start to see those winds strengthening across the northwest as more expansive rain begins to expansive area of rain begins to push way this. could push its way in this. could certainly heavy at times certainly be heavy at times as we off the day elsewhere, we start off the day elsewhere, once the rain and drizzle does eventually its way the eventually its way off to the south they will be a largely south and they will be a largely dry but one. just dry day. but cloudy one. just the odd bright spell here. and then temperatures wise holding up around to nine degrees across southern areas , actually ten, southern areas, actually ten, 11, maybe even 12 degrees for the likes of aberdeen with those

winds coming up the south winds coming up from the south until tomorrow evening. then frontal system is going to gradually push across gradually push its way across many areas . we'll see some many areas. we'll see some clearer spells develop that, but also a rash of showers pushing in for scotland. 50 mile an hour gusts associated with these showers hail in there showers and some hail in there as well. but by the time we get to morning, that front to monday morning, that front will clear its way will eventually clear its way off southern areas. so off across southern areas. so for many us, the start of the new working week is looking like a fairly pleasant one with some sunny intervals in there. now, thanks to the ridge high thanks to the ridge of high pressure as we move throughout the the our the rest of the week, our attentions to low attentions turn to this low pressure centre that squeeze in the course, across the ice, of course, across scotland could provide some fairly blustery and windy conditions, particularly towards the tuesday. so just the end of tuesday. so just watch out for that. goodbye i'm mark is homeland security mark white is homeland security editor . i covered those key editor. i covered those key issues that are so important to you? our authority are communities doing all can to combat violent crime with the pubuc combat violent crime with the public services under unbearable strain, why are we still failing

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