okay. good morning . welcome to okay. good morning. welcome to bev turner. today on gb news. it's a brand new week, i'm sure there will be some good news this week. it's been a busy weekend. prime minister rishi sunak sacked the tory party chairman, zahawi after he chairman, dizzee zahawi after he breached ministerial code breached the ministerial code seven times. in your view, did he take action quick enough? we are expecting rishi sunak to face a q&a session any minute now about his nhs plans in county durham. he's going to be speaking. we're going to cross that as soon as it starts and the government is cracking down on who claim be on migrants who claim to be victims of trafficking. home secretary spent a brave woman says rules will allow says that new rules will allow ministers deport any foreign ministers to deport any foreign criminal. even if they claim to be victims of modern slavery. also today, big brother watch released a report. minister, the ministry of truth , a secret ministry of truth, a secret government unit spying on your

truth. it is a truly shocking report showing how lockdown sceptic people well, like me and my panellist laura dodsworth today were monitored throughout the pandemic by the government . the pandemic by the government. yeah, you heard me correctly. and we don't live in china. that's all coming up after the latest with tamzin . bev, latest news with tamzin. bev, thank you. good morning from the gb newsroom. it's 10:10. the labour gb newsroom. it's10:10. the labour party is urging the prime minister to reveal what he knew about the investigation into nadhim zahawi tax affairs and when labour's deputy leader angela rayner has written to mrs. sunak urging him to come clean. the prime minister sacked the conservative party chairman on sunday after an ethics inquiry found he'd committed a serious breach of the ministerial code . conservative ministerial code. conservative mp for lichfield michael fabncant mp for lichfield michael fabricant says getting rid of mr. zahawi was the right decision . you know, paying

decision. you know, paying a penalty is not that unusual. when you're in dispute with hmrc and you guv, as you know , is and you guv, as you know, is a very big corporation with offices in the united kingdom. america and other countries. so i was sympathetic, but you know, it was becoming a distress auction. yes nadhim zahawi did tell civil servants that there was a dispute going on, but it should have been in writing. you have to do things properly. but i can tell you as a former minister that the ministerial code complex , gated. so code is quite complex, gated. so people make mistakes. but i people do make mistakes. but i think richard was absolutely right to wait and i think was absolutely right to make the decision he did . the decision that he did. the government will announce a £1 billion emergency care plan today as the nhs continues to face their precious. rishi sunak is expected to pledge 800 new ambulances , 5000 more hospital ambulances, 5000 more hospital beds as well as expanding urgent care to people's homes. that's over the next two years. experts

warn there should be a bigger focus on staff shortages and pay . but health secretary steve barclay says that's already part of the new plan. well we're increasing the workforce. that's ten and a half thousand more nurses. this year compared to last year. we're on track to deliver our manifesto commitment for 50,000 more necessary, over 30,000 of those already achieved. but it's not just about the number of staff. it's also about treating patients in the right place, how we maximise the right place, how we maximise the use of technology and how we get patients a better experience . i will be hearing from the prime minister on that shortly . prime minister on that shortly. last minute talks between teaching unions and the government are being held today in an effort to avoid strike action in england and wales. teachers are planning to strike on wednesday in a dispute over pay on wednesday in a dispute over pay and conditions with up to 23,000 schools affected. it's expected to be the biggest day of industrial action to hit the

uk in decades. with up to half a million public service workers , million public service workers, including train drivers, teachers and civil servants, also taking action. the government says it can't afford to meet the demands of every industry, taking action further strikes are also planned for february and march . meanwhile, february and march. meanwhile, fire fighters could vote today for their first nationwide strike over pay for 20 years. the fire brigades union said its members have experienced a 12% drop in real terms earnings since 2010. last november, members rejected a pay rise of 5% the home secretary suella braverman has urged peers to back prop up penalties for disruptive protesters and a proposed new law. the government says the changes to the public order bill would allow police officers to intervene before protesters become highly disruptive and use these new powers, with demonstrators blocking roads or slow marching , unions and rights groups are

expected to protest outside downing street today against the new bill. describe it as a historic attack on democratic rights . historic attack on democratic rights. boris johnson historic attack on democratic rights . boris johnson says rights. boris johnson says vladimir putin threatened to kill him just weeks before russia's invasion of ukraine. the comment was made during a phone call after mr. johnson visited kyiv to show support for ukraine. the former prime minister told the bbc putin's said it would only take a minute if he used a missile. said it would only take a minute if he used a missile . the if he used a missile. the government is cracking down on migrants who claim to be victims of trafficking. from today , new of trafficking. from today, new rules make it harder to exploit legal safeguards that protect victims of modern slavery. the home office could now withhold all protections from anyone sentenced to 12 months or more in prison or convicted of murder or terrorism. a 16 year old boy will appear in court today charged with the murder of a 15

year old girl who was stabbed to death in northumberland. holly newton was found injured on friday and died from her wounds in hospital. the boy who can't be named for legal reasons is also charged with attempted murder and possession of an offensive weapon . new research offensive weapon. new research suggests over half a million more people are calling in sick to work than before the pandemic. analysis by a group called rest less found a 20% increase among 50 to 64 year olds staying at home more often since 2019. the main reasons include long term sickness and looking after family . this is gb looking after family. this is gb news more for me shortly. now though, it's back to beth .

though, it's back to beth. very good morning. welcome to bev turner today on gb news. hey, here's what's coming up before midday , the prime before midday, the prime minister is under mounting pressure following the sacking of nedim zahawi with labour's deputy leader angela rayner, urging rishi sunak to come clean about what he knew and crucially when the pm fired the conservative party chairman yesterday following an ethics inquiry that found that he'd committed a serious breach of the ministerial code. we'd have to wait to see if his constitu fions to wait to see if his constitu tions give him another chance to remain as their mp at the next election expecting election. we're also expecting rishi to face a q&a rishi sunak to face a q&a session this morning about his nhs plan in just a moment. we'll cross to that when we can. also the home secretary suella braverman has announced new plans that will make it harder for migrants convicted of serious offences to claim to be victims of modern slavery. i was curious, ed, about why it will break this down for us in just a moment. and on the panel this morning, i'm going to be joined by author, taylor

by the author, lord taylor swift, episcopal annotated swift, an episcopal annotated emma we'll get ultimate emma burnell. we'll get ultimate is new report from is a shocking new report from big brother. watch the ministry of truth, they're calling it. and looks at 60 of whitehall and it looks at 60 of whitehall units have been monitoring units which have been monitoring government critics affected list the critics of the government dunng the critics of the government during lockdown monitoring what those people like me were saying in order to tackle apparently misinformation claims. also this morning for boris johnson that vladimir putin threatened him with a missile strike in an extraordinary phone call. and of course , i want to get your views course, i want to get your views . email me, gb views at gb news uk or tweet me at gb news to have your say . first up, the have your say. first up, the government is cracking down on migrants who claim to be victims of trafficking. gb news home security editor mark white is here to explain more this morning. mark, good to see you . morning. mark, good to see you. am i right in thinking this has been a kind of legal loophole

that asylum seekers, illegal immigrants have been to use immigrants have been able to use to stay here? what's changed? it's exactly what the government would say has been happening . would say has been happening. so, all, the modern so, first of all, the modern slavery rules, they were introduced under theresa may when she was prime minister. they were there really with the best of intentions to try to help those who might be trafficked in, to work in criminality , prostitution, to criminality, prostitution, to help those individuals. can i was just the situation they're in get them the help they need. however what's been happening with the small boats crisis and again yesterday but another 180 people crossed the english channelin people crossed the english channel in a number of small boats. is that albanians in particular? are using the modern slavery rules? they are being told by the criminal gangs that claim to be a modern slave that you've been trafficked across the channel and then that makes the channel and then that makes the chances of you remaining in the chances of you remaining in the uk much better, because what

would happens under the modern slavery rules at the moment is you claim to be a victim of trafficking and more often than not then the any moves to try and remove you from the country are halted while you then put in to this kind of parallel system, to this kind of parallel system, to the asylum system . and we're to the asylum system. and we're told that about half of all of the modern slavery claims over the modern slavery claims over the past year have been made by albania . so that's what the albania. so that's what the government is trying to do with this legislation , a tightening this legislation, a tightening up the rules around modern slavery. so basically it will affect foreign nationals offenders and also those arrive in the likes of small boats or in the likes of small boats or in the likes of small boats or in the backs of lorries with foreign national offenders. if you are convicted of a serious crimes for 12 months or more you're convicted of, then the government, the officials can withdraw the modern slavery protections. if that's what you've claimed has happened to

you. and then if you're arriving by small boat and you simply claim that you're a victim of modern slavery, those caseworkers, the officials, they'll have to determine whether this is followed or not need objective evidence that this has happened and not just a suspicion that you might have been the victim of trafficking . been the victim of trafficking. i wonder what that evidence could look like . presumably that could look like. presumably that might be what details on a mobile phone exactly . exactly. mobile phone exactly. exactly. that that kind of information that they can check further up the line of you see where you are heading to. they find some evidence of criminality . you evidence of criminality. you link to you on some evidence to suggest that actually you were removed forcibly removed from your home country to come to the uk to work in criminality or whatever it might be. thank you , mark. right. we're going to cross live now to the prime minister. he's speaking in county durham. here he is . i was

county durham. here he is. i was at a north tees hospital with the man who runs the nhs and another colleagues to launch all plan to cut waiting times in urgent and emergency care. something that we've been working on for a little bit now . i don't need to tell all of you about some of the challenges that we're all experiencing in our emergency departments at the moment. now, there's a lot of reasons for that. there was still recovery from the impact of covid. we've had, i think, the worst flu season amanda made about decade . and so been about a decade. and so it's been pretty tough for everyone. and we've still got far too many people hospitals who we would people in hospitals who we would much prefer and they would prefer home in their prefer to be back home in their communities after. communities being looked after. but we're not alone in facing these challenges. you can see similar things in wales, in scotland, even international, in canada, in italy, in germany , canada, in italy, in germany, that people grappling with that all people grappling with similar challenges . but we still similar challenges. but we still need to do something about it. and that's why last year when the chancellor stood up and announced what's called the

autumn statement , we announced what's called the autumn statement, we had to make some difficult decisions . i some difficult decisions. i think you will remember what happened and we had to do some things get our debt and things to get our debt and borrowing control. in borrowing under control. in spite that, we spite of all of that, we prioritise nhs and social prioritise the nhs and social care billions pounds of care with billions of pounds of extra funding. because i know it's your priority. it's my priority and the government's priority and the government's priority the question priority too. but the question is, and what want to ask me is, and what you want to ask me is, and what you want to ask me is, how you going to is, well, how are you going to spend money? actually spend that money? so it actually makes difference because we makes a difference because we need this and today's need to improve this and today's plan that. believe plan does that. i believe there's five very specific things doing . the first is things we're doing. the first is more capacity . that means 5000 more capacity. that means 5000 more capacity. that means 5000 more beds, 800 more ambulances , more beds, 800 more ambulances, 100 more mental health ambulances , just to put more ambulances, just to put more capacity into the system. the second thing is to increase the workforce, making sure that we've got more doctors, more nurses , more types of all nurses, more types of all professional, actually, and many of you that i've met this morning are going to be here and help us deliver on that. and we want to support you to work as flexibly as possible when you get the third thing was get there. the third thing was discharge. mentioned we've got

discharge. i mentioned we've got 14,000 hospitals at 14,000 people in hospitals at the moment who ought to be either back or in their either back home or in their communities. that's causing communities. and that's causing some challenges that some of the challenges that we're seeing in our hospitals at the moment. so we've a plan the moment. so we've got a plan to speed discharge with particular money some particular money and some initiatives that . the initiatives to help that. the fourth is having more fourth thing is having more people care outside of hospital. i think most people don't need to be in hospital, don't want to be in hospital. and there are some great examples we can some great examples where we can treat respiratory treat people with respiratory conditions in virtual wards or indeed new frailty and for services, again, keeping people out of hospital. so we're going to do far more of those and lastly, we're going to improve one, one, one, and we're going to put different types of people into the 1 to 1 service that people can the help that people can get the help that they on the phone and they need on the phone and hopefully up needing to hopefully end up not needing to go to a&e in the first place. so those are the five points of the plan and all that is going to plan and all of that is going to have enormous amount of have an enormous amount of support to it to help those trusts need extra help. trusts that need extra help. now, i was with cath and her

team this morning at north tees. nonh team this morning at north tees. north tees is an example of somewhere that is doing brilliantly thanks to the incredible joined up working between all the different people at north tees. they've really figured out how to attack this problem and make an enormous difference in so many people's lives. and what we need to make sure is that we spread that kind of best practise out and about across country . and that's across the country. and that's what a for in the health what a man for now in the health secretary. were talking to secretary. we were talking to the at north tees about the team at north tees about this in this morning. so that in a nutshell is the plan with small more beds, more ambulances, more staff, better social care . and staff, better social care. and if we can deliver on it, if we can deliver on it, then i think we will see. in fact, i know we will see the largest and fast this ever improvement in emergency waiting times in the nhs as history. that is the ambition of our plan that we've set out today. and partly because of all the time i've spent with brilliant people like cath and her team, this morning, all of you who are training , i all of you who are training, i feel really confident that we

can deliver it because ultimately if because of all of you in the hard work and the ingentu you in the hard work and the ingenuity that you bring to your jobs day in, day out, that we're going fix problem, we're going to fix this problem, we're going to fix this problem, we're going improve things for going to improve things for patients make enormous patients and make an enormous difference and down difference to people up and down the so thank you the country. so thank you for your help that your help in making that a reality. thank you for being here today. that, i'd here today. and with that, i'd be delighted answer any and be delighted to answer any and all your questions all all of your questions on all things nhs or anything else or teesside anything else and teesside or anything else and all you want. i'll say, all that. you want. i'll say, right, wants go first? right, who wants to go first? yes and hi . right, who wants to go first? yes and hi. i'm a right, who wants to go first? yes and hi . i'm a student nurse yes and hi. i'm a student nurse at teesside university and i'm based at nortje hospital and as a student it can be quite difficult. i'm a mature student. the reality is i have to work alongside my studies, which is fine , but when we're on fine, but when we're on placement it gets quite difficult . i know as a student difficult. i know as a student i'm very grateful for the nhs bursary that you introduce to £5,000. really grateful . but £5,000. really grateful. but while we're on placement, it

gets really difficult. do you ever envisage any change to the funding for student like nurses and allied health professions that might just help us? we were on placement because if we're doing , you know, 37 on placement because if we're doing, you know, 37 and a half hours, you know, when we're on placement, it's really hard to work alongside that. and the bursary is brilliant, but do you think there might ever be a to change funding or just a little bit extra for money students? you to keep retention you know, just to keep retention , that people in , you know, that our people in my cohort that have dropped out just financially, can be just financially, it can be difficult . so yes, yeah . lynn, difficult. so yes, yeah. lynn, thank you. and it was to great see you guys earlier on and thanks for what you're doing . thanks for what you're doing. and you're absolutely right. it was we recognise the challenge is that we're there for many of you who are trying to juggle what if juggled being on your course and making everything work alongside and that's why we've bursary we've reintroduced that bursary which as you said and thank you for acknowledging because for acknowledging that because that' year of nurses that's £5,000 a year of nurses bursary. it was something that the union was really keen

the rcn union was really keen for us to do. a couple of years ago and we prioritised it. and you know, we get on to other things to do with pay as well later on. but that that's something that does it costs a lot of money. but it was the right thing to do help . now right thing to do to help. now alongside that you other alongside that you also other things maintenance things are also maintenance grants memory grants are available from memory but we're always looking to make sure that the support we've got in helps . and with in place helps. and with the extra funding putting extra funding that we're putting in nhs , shortly we're in to the nhs, shortly we're going to publish a work force plan , which is something that plan, which is something that many of you and your colleagues have asked for ages. we are going to finally do that and as we publish that workforce plan and we kind of know, okay, great, many nurses, great, we need this many nurses, this doctors, this many this many doctors, this many paramedics, figuring out do paramedics, etc, figuring out do we all the bits in place to we have all the bits in place to make sure we end up with that, that of people is going make sure we end up with that, th.be of people is going make sure we end up with that, th.be really of people is going make sure we end up with that, th.be really important. is going make sure we end up with that, th.be really important. so joing make sure we end up with that, th.be really important. so we g to be really important. so we will look as we do that and making sure that the support is in to get the in place to get all the fantastic nurses need. the fantastic nurses we need. the other is, is training once other thing is, is training once you qualify . and of the

you qualify. and also one of the other that we did, which other things that we did, which again many of you again was actually many of you nodding a lot of what nodding because a lot of what you was, that's you said to us was, that's great. we do our course here and we go and work. we'd like some support with continuous development and we've now put in place a cpd budget for all of you when you graduate and start work, you've got access to i think it's about £1,000 from memory. again a cpd budget so that you can continue learning more, doing more. and that's actually how we're going to solve some of these problems, because you think of what all because if you think of what all of you can do now compared to what could 20 years what nurses could do 20 years ago, changed dramatically. ago, it's changed dramatically. and can more of that, and if we can do more of that, it help us have more it will help us have a more effective nhs and make sure you have have really fulfilling have you have really fulfilling careers as well. if perfect right who's who's next? yes. so l, right who's who's next? yes. so i, i am a local community pharmacist and i would like to know, are you aware, promise of the perilous financial state, the perilous financial state, the community pharmacy services in at the moment in england and

wales there are a lot of community pharmacies who are really struggling from a 30% cut in real terms in funding over the last seven years. and now we're at the brink of closure and it will not be long before we see some pharmacy closing. can you please urgently inject some funding into the community pharmacy service ? and the second pharmacy service? and the second question would be, how have you considered a national pharmacy first scheme to ease pressure on the nhs for a&e and gp surgeries, where patients could come to a pharmacy first and be triaged in that way? a well—funded service would do a lot to help the nhs. yes so i'm biased on this because as some of you may know, all things that my mum was a community pharmacist, she owned her own pharmacy. i grew up working in it in my childhood, i'm it nice. in my childhood, so i'm a fan of pharmacies. my dad a big fan of pharmacies. my dad was also a gp, so i saw both sides of it and i think your two

questions actually go really well we make well together. so how do we make sure that local pharmacies are sustainable well into the future? well, future? it's figuring out, well, what community what more can community pharmacies in the same pharmacies do? and in the same way we about nurses, if way we talk about nurses, if i think all the things that think about all the things that a today compared a pharmacy does today compared to worked in my mum's to when i worked in my mum's pharmacy, and pharmacy, that has evolved and changed. and to your point, i think there's more we can do. and it was one of the things that amanda and i and the team have been discussing is seeing how can move towards how more we can move towards a pharmacy first model. we saw that during covid with vaccinations and bit by bit, there are more services that can be put into pharmacies or pharmacists by about 2025 or six are going to have the ability to prescribe. and i think that's the area that many pharmacists have said to us. so hang on. whether it's for uti eyes or other things or minor ailments, would possible for would it be possible for pharmacies do more ? and pharmacies to do more? and that's something we're actively looking at. looking at what does that for regulation four? that mean for regulation four? we to our anti biotics we have to get our anti biotics safety right because if our

chief officers chief medical officers were here, would say, you know, here, they would say, you know, actually do a very good job actually we do a very good job of this country of not making sure that people develop an immunity and immunity to antibiotics. and they make that that they want to make sure that that remains so that's what remains the case. so that's what they they were they would say if they were here, but also things like blood pressure checks is another thing where do more in where we probably can do more in pharmacies. and if we get pharmacies. and if we can get that right, there's so much undiagnosed pressure undiagnosed high blood pressure which then leads all the paramedics then paramedics here, which then leads people needing leads to people needing ambulance. if we have ambulance. call out if we have pharmacies doing more blood pressure example, pressure checks, for example, you people the you know, getting people the treatment earlier, treatment they need earlier, stopping call stopping the ambulance call out. so a of so there's a lot of opportunities all the opportunities and that's all the things that we are in the process of looking out the process of looking out in the same that we published same way that today we published a plan on a pretty comprehensive plan on tackling and emergency tackling urgent and emergency care . we're going to do care. we're going to do something very similar for primary so last primary care as well. so last year we published a plan on electives , which in process electives, which is in process and working . so we're getting and working. so we're getting the elective the backlog down on elective surgery. today, focus is on surgery. today, the focus is on emergency care and then the next step will be on primary care. so you expect to hear us talk a

you can expect to hear us talk a little bit more about pharmacies and pharmacies then. i and pharmacies then. but i always have be careful. always have to be careful. i said biased. i'll have to said i'm biased. i'll have to check natural pro pharmacy check my natural pro pharmacy bias those right bias and those things. right is he's another yes he's got another question. yes this . high he's got another question. yes this. high ammonia, a learning disability nurse by background i'm also a lecturer here tayside so there are approximately 1.5 million people at learning disabilities in the whole of the uk and only 17,000 of us nurses in the whole of the uk. so just wondering what ideas you have for funding for learning disability services or learning disability, nurse education? well, thank you. for what you do. it's incredibly important. i should i say in my own constituency, actually, relatively recently i was talking to someone who does the same thing that you do and it and it makes such a difference to people. so thank you for that and thank you also for helping train the next generation of not just saying they're going to come the come through. so one of the things we're actually in the process publishing we're

process of publishing is we're going to have a new we're going to have a new piece of legislation that changes all the guidance treat guidance about how we treat people learning people with learning disabilities indeed autism disabilities and indeed autism and of the things that and it's one of the things that i learnt more about i think we've learnt more about over years and the way our over the years and the way our current guidance and regulation is is probably not as as is set up is probably not as as it should be . and lots of your it should be. and lots of your colleagues helping us get colleagues are helping us get that to make sure that the that right to make sure that the treatment is in place people treatment is in place for people at right stage, will at the right stage, will identify early and identify things early enough and then support around then put the support around around people that they need. because you look at because if you look at the prevalence gone up prevalence of it, it's gone up considerably , particularly at considerably, particularly at young andi considerably, particularly at young and i think i think young age and i think i think all of us want to make sure that particular for our young people so we are getting them the so that we are getting them the support in schools to support they need in schools to grapple with some of these things and to have fulfilling lives . so actually, that will lives. so actually, that will come out i think, this come out, i think, later this year. come out, i think, later this year . but come out, i think, later this year. but stand by on that as well as the extra that's well as the extra money that's going which we need make going on, which we need to make sure gets down to, you know, to what your grappling with on the ground. need to sure

ground. we need to make sure that get overall approach that we get the overall approach and right in a way that and policy right in a way that in wasn't done in the past wasn't done properly. now that with properly. but now that with the new new that we're going new the new act that we're going to put forward will be fixed, right. who's who's next? yes, ma'am . yes . well, today , my ma'am. yes. well, today, my background is educate . and so background is educate. and so i run a very large academic academy trust . but i'm not going academy trust. but i'm not going to ask you about that this morning, because i think we're surrounded by health people. so the two things that i want to ask you is you've been to north east hospital and it is in desperate need of a rebuild . so desperate need of a rebuild. so i'd like to ask the question, what are your plans for rebuilding some of the hospitals that really are desperate and a lot of money is lost because they're actually spending it on repairs and maintenance, whereas if they had new builds, that would make a difference. and the second question i want to ask, because it's the elephant in the room. you actually room. when are you actually going pay nurses properly? going to pay nurses properly? right. actually a great, right. it's actually a great, great we do both of those

great if we do both of those together so on. on the together and so on. on the hospital maintenance side. so there's actually the nhs capital budget at the moment is the largest it's ever been and that goes into a mix of different things. it goes into this probably goes into r&d, which is important , it probably goes into r&d, which is important, it goes into upgrades . so lots of hospitals that need upgrades are currently in the process of being, i think, almost 100 are being upgraded as we speak and that could be smaller scale intervention as there's a very large programme of new builds and rebuilds , of new builds and rebuilds, which is part of the 40 hospital programme . and putting in programme. and we're putting in more kit into all the hospitals right ? so community diagnostic right? so community diagnostic centres , mri scanners, those centres, mri scanners, those types of things, building elective surgical hubs, all those things actually going to help us get the backlog down. so without big capital budget that we've got, those are the different of it different elements of it and we're trying to get the balance right between all those, all those things. overall those things. but that overall pie is biggest that it's pie is the biggest that it's ever into going into ever been going into going into that area. now, actually links to your second question. right.

and glad you asked about all and i'm glad you asked about all about it. it's a bit odd if we've managed to get through this session without talking about it. right. many of you here will thinking about here will be thinking about it. many will be members of many of you will be members of a union and let me explain union and let me let me explain where we are and what and what we're doing. right. first of all, as hopefully you can tell. right, reason there, right, the reason i'm there, i've enormous for i've got enormous gratitude for all who are doing an all of you who are doing an incredible hard incredible job working very hard at in the nhs, at the moment in the nhs, particularly winter , which particularly this winter, which has really challenging for has been really challenging for the reasons i talked about. and that's on the back of two that's come on the back of two years been really years which have been really challenging covid, challenging because of covid, right? i know and right? so believe me, i know and as i was talking about, i grew up in an nhs family. i understand how important health care is and the difference it makes. that's we prioritised makes. that's why we prioritised it in of the it last year in spite of the difficult things. now then, what does for look, i does that mean for pay? look, i would love nothing would me would love nothing would give me more pleasure than to wave a magic wand and have everyone, all of you paid lots more, right? of course. of course. who wouldn't want to be to do wouldn't want to be able to do that? of course i want to be

able to do that. what we did do is there's a independent process that this and that goes through this and provides recommendation provides a recommendation to the government. wasn't government. so it wasn't actually an actually wasn't a decision, an independent process takes evidence from the unions , from evidence from the unions, from the government, from others. and it look, we think the it says, look, we think the appropriate pay level pay increase x . they roughly increase is x. they said roughly 5, right ? so increase is x. they said roughly 5, right? so we said, increase is x. they said roughly 5, right ? so we said, fine, 5, right? so we said, fine, we'll accept that . that's what 5, right? so we said, fine, we'll put pt that . that's what 5, right? so we said, fine, we'll put inthat . that's what 5, right? so we said, fine, we'll put in place that's what 5, right? so we said, fine, we'll put in place forit's what 5, right? so we said, fine, we'll put in place for last/hat we've put in place for last yeah we've put in place for last year. and so, you know, why not? why not more right is your question . and that's question. and that's a completely fair question and i guess i'd say a couple of things. you know, we've had got a handful of different questions about lots of different things. right. you asked about hospital upgrades. asked about upgrades. we asked about community we asked community pharmacy. we asked about training for new nurses and what support we can give them that people learning them that people with learning disabilities , children with disabilities, children with learning . that learning disabilities. that gives a sense of all the gives you a sense of all the things that we have to try and balance and that's my job. that's not an easy job. right. and that's what we have to do fundamentally , i can tell you

fundamentally, i can tell you hand on heart that there's more money going into the nhs and social care than there ever has been before. i can tell you that when we had to make some really difficult decisions last year, we of way to we went out of our way to protect the nhs and social care and give even more . and that and give it even more. and that meant elsewhere meant difficult things elsewhere which some criticism for which i got some criticism for right ? so i which i got some criticism for right? so i can which i got some criticism for right ? so i can tell you that. right? so i can tell you that. right. so overall, the pie is as big ever been and in the big as it's ever been and in the circumstances was was prioritised. then within prioritised. but then within that pie, we've got to figure out what's the right balance between pay and between all these other things that we have to do. and that's not an easy thing to get, right? right. and, you like as you said, you know, we'd like as you said, we a and upgraded we want a new and upgraded hospital. more mri hospital. we need more mri scanners. more support scanners. we need more support for new nurses, etc. right. so that's the balance that get. that's the balance that we get. right, question right, is a question about what's within that what's affordable within in that pie. don't want to any pie. and i don't want to put any of your up as what it of your taxes up as what it comes down to. i doubt any of you would thank me if i came in and said, great. i've put and said, great. well i've put up your taxes, right? i up all your taxes, right? i don't to that because don't want to do that because

it's tough enough at home as it is at the moment for all of you with your bills and everything else. figuring out else. so you're figuring out how to these things. is all to pay for these things. is all my and i think we've kind of my job and i think we've kind of where we all the taxes the where where we all the taxes the moment we put up moment we can't put them up anymore. now need anymore. all right. now we need to be getting them down. so that's what constrains me on one end. the other thing is end. and then the other thing is inflation, the inflation, right? what is the number challenge all you number one challenge all of you have today it's have day today at home? it's like every time you open a bill, it's like, oh, my gosh, what is going on? right? every single bill, single week. and bill, every single week. and it's that for while, it's been like that for a while, right? most important thing right? the most important thing that do for all of that i need to do for all of you, just everyone you, right? not just everyone working nhs, not just working the nhs, not just all nurses, but everyone the nurses, but everyone in the country. important country. the most important thing halve inflation, thing is to halve inflation, right? the thing is going to make the biggest to make the biggest difference to all lives and everyone all of your lives and everyone else's the end of else's life. if by the end of this year my bills are going this year my bills are not going up rate that they have up at the rate that they have been over the past year because thatis been over the past year because that is the thing eating that is the thing that is eating into all of your quality of life, all of your standard of living. thing that's living. that's the thing that's says, can't says, great, i can't go on houday says, great, i can't go on holiday this or i can't buy

holiday this year or i can't buy these or can't go out these presents or i can't go out for this meal. i can't do any of these things because everything is going up and up and up. is just going up and up and up. i've to get a grip of that i've got to get a grip of that for all of you. it is the most important thing. and if we don't do get afford do that, we won't get afford anything in the future because inflation is one of these things. young things. this is a very young audience. so you might audience. right. so you might remember, this goes remember, like when this goes badly did in the badly wrong, as it did in the past, the 1970s, and is that past, in the 1970s, and is that everyone here is too young to remember that. but, you know, when gets wrong and when this gets wrong and if we're talking about high we're still talking about high inflation in a year's time. right, it going to awful right, it is going to be awful for of you, right? it will for all of you, right? it will be. we won't better afford to invest in anything. invest any more in anything. right. won't be able to right. and you won't be able to spend money on anything they want inflation want because inflation would have going and up have just been going up and up and important part of us and up and important part of us getting a of inflation and getting a grip of inflation and halving is making sure that halving it is making sure that the responsible the government's responsible with its borrowing, because if that control, that that gets out of control, that makes worse. and it's about makes it worse. and it's about making settlements are making sure pay settlements are reasonable and that say reasonable and fair and that say when you have periods of high inflation, what in the inflation, what happened in the past said, okay,

past is everyone said, okay, inflation 15, we should inflation was at 15, we should all to and then you have all get to 15. and then you have all get to 15. and then you have a cycle which you never a vicious cycle which you never recover from. so yeah, it would be the wrong thing to do of course it make my life easier to say. yeah great. let's just go ahead. it would be bad ahead. it would be a bad thing for of you if that inflation for all of you if that inflation was running high a was running really high in a year's time. we hadn't got a grip of i don't want to grip of it, and i don't want to do that for you. so even though it makes my life a bit more difficult today, i really think it's right thing all of it's the right thing for all of you everyone else. we you and everyone else. if we just through but look, just get through this. but look, i you right. i hear you. i hear you right. i hear you. i hear all of you. i talk to your unions. the health sector is talking your unions. we want to find a way through this. i know things i know what things are tough and i know what an job you so an incredible job you do. so rest assured that we are trying our to find a way our hardest to find a way through it. sorry for the long answer, but i do go right. who's who's next? yes this . hi, my who's next? yes this. hi, my name's anna. i'm a primary care network pharmacist . and do you

network pharmacist. and do you have any plans to tackle disease prevention , for example, heart prevention, for example, heart disease or diabetes , which will disease or diabetes, which will keep people out of hospital and in turn, ease the pressure on emergency care? yes. i mean, thatis emergency care? yes. i mean, that is excellent. it's a little bit of what i was talking about before about blood pressure checks. is there more other testing that we can do in advance that does it, which prevents conditions now? i mean , prevents conditions now? i mean i , prevents conditions now? i mean , i was just upstairs with one of your colleagues who's sitting right next to you with this extra and re—invention, right? i mean, look you guys mean, look what you guys basically if i'm basically doing. if i'm betraying any commercial secrets. you know, just secrets. but you know, just basically the what you have done here, what your team collectively have created is a brand new urine based test for something that at the moment requires, you know, over £1,000 of quite invasive testing to be donein of quite invasive testing to be done in a hospital and said i said, figure it out, hang on. we don't need to do that. we can do it with a simple, you know, like a covid test and we can do it at home. and it costs literally a thousand times and that

thousand times less. and that means that many more people can go and that test done and we go and get that test done and we can out they've got can figure out that they've got this condition this particular condition earlier then we can get them earlier and then we can get them the medicine need to the medicine that they need to stop getting worse is an stop it. getting worse is an amazing example is amazing example of what is possible, but that's possible because of you. right. possible, but that's possible becauswe've of you. right. possible, but that's possible becauswe've got: you. right. possible, but that's possible becauswe've got some right. possible, but that's possible becauswe've got some amazing that's we've got some amazing researchers here really researchers here who i'm really proud that is supported proud to say that is supported by government with big by the government with a big grant. i think one the grant. and i think one of the other things do and that other things that we do and that big capital budget is fund big nhs capital budget is fund r&d, which doesn't sound r&d, right, which doesn't sound very but it's not very exciting, but it's not government money that's government r&d money that's going particular going into this particular building that building to support that particular who developed particular team who developed this test, which they've this new test, which they've worked of you who worked on with all of you who are practitioners and nurses to make would actually make sure that it would actually work that is now to work right. that is now going to save tonnes of people's lives and us money over time and and save us money over time and prevent bad things from happening. right. and so you guys here are a kind of guys right here are a kind of amazing microcosm of what is possible do that. and that's possible to do that. and that's why it's working. and, you know, i'm excited the team i'm really excited the team seeing that thing grow, but seeing that that thing grow, but it's just a small example of what we need to do a lot more

of. but it is absolutely part of the answer. absolutely there was another gentleman somewhere over here, think. yes thank you tim here, i think. yes thank you tim thompson. i'm dean of health and life sciences at the university. and there was a report from post exchange a few weeks ago, advocate for an increase in medical places and medical schools, partly focussed on the community. as we talked about today. and i just wondered if any of that fits into your thinking around the workforce planning so planning going forward? yeah, so that absolutely of that will be absolutely part of that. i think, you know, the that. and i think, you know, the nhs has never had this long term workforce plan and it needs to. right, so we've got a plan for the future and that's what that plan will do . so we'll look at plan will do. so we'll look at well here's the different of what's how many people we need , what's how many people we need, what's how many people we need, what they should all do, and then we training them now because the whole problem is if you decide yikes, need you decide today, yikes, we need more you know it more anaesthetists, you know it i can't magic up an anaesthetist overnight example . so overnight for example. so i think that's why we need to have a long term approach. and then part of working

part of that is working backwards to what we're in training so that's what training school. so that's what that i that plan exactly will do. i think the other thing that is really important is, is about the types role and the different types of role and i back and i was i was going back and i was talking to some of you earlier. right. and you going to right. and you guys are going to go and do these amazing jobs go out and do these amazing jobs and solve this problem. and help us solve this problem. but it's making sure we have all the people the different types of people and the different types of and all the different types of things that that we need. and it's, you know, primary care it's, you know, in primary care is pharmacies do that is what can pharmacies do that gp's currently right. gp's are currently doing right. but what but also given that what a pharmacy technicians doing today or doing or should be doing that pharmacists of pharmacists could do for all of you. right. there's the emergency new emergency technicians, the new types of role, what nurses are doing , you know, because are in doing, you know, because are in the right. all the the profession, right. all the different types of nursing qualification there you qualification there are, you know, blood know, nurses ordering blood tests, x—rays and, any tests, x—rays, x—rays and, any departments now is departments which now is possible, which wasn't always possible, which wasn't always possible , isn't happening. possible, isn't happening. by the hospital which the way, in every hospital which in it could be so those in which it could be so those are all the things we need to look well. it's not just look at as well. it's not just about the of people about the number of people important, though, is. it's important, though, that is. it's about all of you, about making sure, all of you, because just

because you're more than just a number. want make sure that number. we want make sure that you have really fulfilling careers. that careers. right. which said that you're enjoying you're careers. right. which said that you're and)ying you're careers. right. which said that you'reand)yingthat you're careers. right. which said that you're and)yingthat you'rea doing and feel that you're working the stuff that you working on the stuff that you qualified and trained do and not lots other stuff. but also lots of other stuff. but also we're figuring how to make we're figuring out how to make you really effective, right. you all really effective, right. and important part of and that's an important part of that not about that plan. it's not just about numbers. about doing numbers. it's about who's doing what as what are they doing as effectively possible and effectively as possible and doing in a way that's really doing it in a way that's really fulfilling of them. so fulfilling for all of them. so you are help us you guys are going to help us build that plan because you are the the ground. and the ones on the ground. and actually, why when i'm actually, that's why when i'm around you know, i had lots around and you know, i had lots of people to downing street the other you that really other week, you it's that really simple people saying, simple stuff. people saying, hang i this hospital, i'm hang on, i in this hospital, i'm allowed an x ray. i'm allowed to order an x ray. i'm out blood test and i out and order a blood test and i have to and talk to the have to go and talk to the consultant. i can just speed that process up and then i'm going work at another going to work at another hospital i won't say hospital and i can't i won't say and don't want to the same and i don't want to the same sense of all, does it. so it's small things like that that you guys and that's how we guys tell us, and that's how we help for you and for help improve it for you and for everyone well. yes well, everyone else as well. yes well, yes, thanks so much, jonny.

yes, sir. thanks so much, jonny. i'm a local cardiothoracic surgeon. country lead run surgeon. country lead and run target health check. target lung health check. luckily something in luckily we have something in common because i was inspired by cath who . i'm cath monahan as well, who. i'm not quite as bright as catherine enough being a surgeon, but we have run a parallel service where we have taken a nurse into the community post lung surgery for cancer , and we visit them for cancer, and we visit them day one, day two and three post—operative and post—discharge. and that's reduced our readmission rate from 30% to 9. and reduced our patient stay from 6.6 days to 4.9 days. so my question is, can we have the hospital at home on the virtual wards apply to the surgical community, not only to my more clever medical colleagues? yes well, we're all members of cath fan club. i saved that. so they click the quick onset. the quick answer is yes . and i tell you guys will. yes. and i tell you guys will. well we'll know this because you're all practitioners. maybe not everyone in the media will know this, but like this concept of virtual wards is actually

they actually just transform. and what this? what does and then what is this? what does it and that's so know it mean? and that's so i know this some up here, this some people up here, so i'll up you for i'll come up to you for a question in a second as well. sorry so what does it mean? right. this is, as you said, we can basically up hospitals can basically set up hospitals at home for people right. and we can basically set up hospitals at hdoe for people right. and we can basically set up hospitals at hdoe “in people right. and we can basically set up hospitals at hdoe “in arease right. and we can basically set up hospitals at hdoe “in areas likeiht. and we can basically set up hospitals at hdoe “in areas like copd,j we can do it in areas like copd, respiratory conditions . we can respiratory conditions. we can do it in areas like frailty . and do it in areas like frailty. and the allows to us do the technology allows to us do that together with new ways of working know, that cath working that you know, that cath has helped develop here. and it does exactly what you said. it means that we can stop people coming into hospital in the first place. it we can and it means we can get them home quicker i should. we were quicker and i should. we were going of stats going over some of the stats this morning north tees. how this morning at north tees. how we're able to do it. i think it was in copd. we were discussing 20, 30% reduction in admissions for in because of for people coming in because of this service for copd this type of service for copd and reduction in, an average and a reduction in, an average day from 5 to 3 days. i mean, this huge you replicate that across the entire nhs if we can roll that out properly, it'll make big difference. so that's

make a big difference. so that's part the plan today. so when part of the plan today. so when you go and have a flick through this plan, it will say that we've currently about 7000 we've got currently about 7000 virtual that's virtual ward beds and that's going to at least 10,000 going to grow to at least 10,000 over course of the next over the course of the next yeah over the course of the next year. and top of that, we year. and on top of that, we want to make sure that the utilisation of those beds goes up it is currently, up from where it is currently, which than it should be which is lower than it should be . we're going to support all . and we're going to support all those don't quite those hospitals who don't quite know to do it properly, know how to do it properly, because what you're is because what you're doing is pioneering, right? and we pioneering, right? and what we need is support every need to do is support every other introduce other hospital to introduce virtual wards and think that way because it's a new way of thinking it requires as thinking and it requires as capacity requires bit of capacity, it requires a bit of out the box thinking out of the box thinking sometimes. but we sometimes. but if we get everyone that, it's going everyone to do that, it's going to amazing. and part to be amazing. and that is part of that's big part of plan of that's a big part of our plan today. so you for raising today. so thank you for raising it. i'm going to go upstairs. right. two questions up right. we got two questions up there. i right? sir. there. i can't. right? yes sir. your hand hi gorgeous. your hand raised. hi gorgeous. as yours . so your hand raised. hi gorgeous. as yours. so just your hand raised. hi gorgeous. as yours . so just wanted to as is yours. so just wanted to know if there are any plans for dentist and or to dentist backlogs treatments plan. i'd

like 12 to 18 months as part of the immense so any any thoughts on that please. thank you yeah so with regard to dentistry so there's we've got about i think 400 some 400 or 500 more dentists doing nhs dentistry at the moment than we did have. and we, we went through and redid the contract of which will improve the provision of services and we're in the process of talking more to see what further make to the what further we can make to the contract to improve things and together with that more money went into nhs dentistry out of that pot of money that that big pot of money that i talked about earlier . and the talked about earlier. and the key thing is there are more hundreds, more nhs dentists today there were and, today than, than there were and, and the contract reforms are a part of how we can continue to improve performance any other improve performance. any other questions there ? i can't questions from up there? i can't quite say yes , sir. i raised quite say yes, sir. i raised thank you. i'm a senior partner in a gp practise in east durham and we've just come out of delivering the amount of the covid vaccination programme and

now dealing with recovery. there's been investment in general practise over the last four years of additional roles, social prescribing workers, pharmacists , paramedics to pharmacists, paramedics to support gp practise because the level of appointment demand has risen significantly . well, my risen significantly. well, my question is, is the bureaucracy or general practise targets demands on performance is increasing as well, but is there any way we could reduce the bureaucracy or general practise so that workforce could concentrate on deliver care? yes. so one of the things that we discussed in downing street a couple of weeks ago in our recovery forum , when we had our recovery forum, when we had our session on primary care was exactly and we had some of exactly this and we had some of your colleagues and representatives from royal representatives from a royal college they've given college there, and they've given they a bunch they gave me a bunch of very practical that think practical things that they think we so we're in the we change. so we're in the process of looking through those. and as part of our primary care plan, see primary care plan, we'll see what can do . but that's why what we can do. but that's why these are important. these things are so important. you know, they want to win you know, if they want to win out, it's that's very helpful

because you know, i need to because we you know, i need to hear are the hear from you. what are the practical things that think practical things that you think you doing don't you are doing that really don't add much value and detract from looking your patients and, looking after your patients and, you well you know, they're all well intentioned i'm sure whatever some body introduce these regulations or form filling it was done with good reason. so then we just need to go and look and say, actually, does that make sense anymore? and we're happy that and we'll be happy to do that and we'll be doing of the doing that as part of the primary care recovery plan, right right and any . yes. right on the right and any. yes. let's get question here. sorry, i'm not right. i mean, i'm being waved at and i'm just going go back to workforce services slightly. yeah. okay and so obviously to staff all of these additional beds and additional capacity it within the hospital, i'm that you were listening there to rishi sunak who was talking in county durham to , a talking in county durham to, a room of clinicians, nurses, doctors explaining his ambition for the nhs. you're watching and listening to bev turner today on gb news. if you have just tuned

in, what did you miss? well, rishi sunak was stood in front of a hoarding that had a pm connects on it , of a hoarding that had a pm connects on it, which kind of is always picturing himself as of broadband service. so we know how successful they are . and he how successful they are. and he talks about the five points for the nhs. he loves the five point plan, doesn't he? rishi sunak and he was talking about more ambulances, clinicians , ambulances, more clinicians, more flexible working, more care outside of hospitals. but will wards listen to this taking it all in with me this morning laura does with journalist and author and emma burnell journalist also and playwright and ladies. we were sitting here trying to work out what we like. he fails to connect . laura it's he fails to connect. laura it's almost regardless of what he's saying, he has an unfortunate pattern arising manner and it was a it is a tough crowd. let's be honest. they're not going to be honest. they're not going to be clapping him as an occasion like that. but he's he has an oddly sort of dehumanise approach to the nhs for a start talking about the solutions being apps, machinery tests etc. more virtual wards, but somehow

he can't even connect with the audience . no, he can't. but you audience. no, he can't. but you got to remember that, you know, he's he's not necessarily full of not there by of charisma. he's not there by virtue democratic mandate. virtue of a democratic mandate. he's voted in by the british he's not voted in by the british people. he wasn't even voted in by two. remembers i think it's very funny said about very funny what you said about him giving at the 9 pm. him giving. giving at the 9 pm. connect. it's like a broadband. we how well they work . but we know how well they work. but if you remember his big speech, he called it big vision he called it the big vision speech. well don't call a speech. well people don't call a speech. well people don't call a speech a big vision speech if they actually a big vision. they actually have a big vision. of putting forward of course, he's putting forward solutions like apps because he's a technocrat . and these are a technocrat. and these are solutions that involve big , solutions that involve big, fancy, well—paid contracts that companies can milk. but they aren't about the people that keep the nhs running . i mean, keep the nhs running. i mean, two things he said, which really struck me was he said that they don't want to put taxes up because we're already struggling as households first of all, he doesn't have a clue. he have a clue because he's so wealthy . clue because he's so wealthy. but aside, it's totally but that aside, it's totally decent generous because right now facing pretty much the

now we're facing pretty much the highest tax burden since world war ii and british household to pay war ii and british household to pay on average war ii and british household to pay on averag e £821 per per pay on average £821 per per household more than they were the year before . so we're the year before. so we're already paying more taxes . how already paying more taxes. how could they put taxes up more? the second thing he said, you know, we've got to get inflation down now bearing in mind that energy and petrol prices are coming anyway, they're not coming down anyway, they're not rising anymore . this rising as fast anymore. this drop inflation is to be drop in inflation is going to be nothing do with the nothing to do with the government's actions. in fact, they could bring inflation down more dropping taxes more by dropping duty in taxes on instantly. on petrol energy instantly. inflation goes down, our cost of living goes down and we wish he was honest about that . we could, was honest about that. we could, if he was just honest and said, look, news , you know, fuel look, great news, you know, fuel pnces look, great news, you know, fuel prices coming we're prices are coming down. we're going seeing that in our going to be seeing that in our inflation. burnell does inflation. why emma burnell does this of particularly sunak this of particularly rishi sunak not feel they could be honest with us and treat us though with us and treat us as though we aren't idiots ? i mean, that we aren't idiots? i mean, that is for me as a communications person . and his biggest problem person. and his biggest problem is he does seem to talk to us like we're a bit stupid or a bit

young, like primary schoolchildren. i and it's really i mean , he's a human really i mean, he's a human being. he has strengths , being. he has strengths, weaknesses. but one of his big weaknesses. but one of his big weaknesses is the tendency to just feel like your second least favourite primary school teacher . so he's kind of he's sometimes tigger and there are times where that might feel appropriate, but it just when you're standing in front of an nhs audience, ingenue area who are knackered and have been through a really tough time and are facing multi super crises, a multiple long term challenges to be like, oh, that's for not yeah, it's just a bit jarring. i wouldn't and oddly , but like i say this word oddly, but like i say this word that every time he speaks he's, it's like he's a cyborg who's come from the future to push us into a future that none of us have actually voted for. well, i

have actually voted for. well, i have to say, if he is, then i'm a lot less worried about the realism of i like it because he's going to lose the next election. the conservatives, i mean , i think anyone's going to mean, i think anyone's going to lose the next election for the conservatives . but he's not said conservatives. but he's not said i mean, i tweeted just now to very, very interesting things next to each other the evening standard has new polling out, which shows that he's lost ten points in popularity november and then the conservative home do a monthly poll of the popularity of the cabinet ministers. i think he was something like fourth from the bottom. so you when you're leading a political party, you either need to have the public with you or your party or ideally both. if you've got nehhen ideally both. if you've got neither, you can get nothing done. neither, you can get nothing done . and the only thing that done. and the only thing that probably was looking for one bit of good news, i thought there was some common sense a pharmacy first model said that 22 by 2025 to 26, all pharmacists should be able to prescribe . and then he

able to prescribe. and then he did say, i have to be careful of my pro pharma bias because that gets in the way. and i thought, well, he's too honest about that. right, laura, moving on to this broke in the this big story that broke in the papers yesterday. there's going to today and you are to be a launch today and you are part this story. am. you part of this story. i am. you know, think that this is the know, i think that this is the biggest story of the day. in fact, i can't feeling fact, i can't help feeling a little bit sceptical. this very extended pm connect q&a that's hogging our screens is really about distracting from the story about distracting from the story about nadhim zahawi . but more about nadhim zahawi. but more important, big brother watch important, a big brother watch report that's come called report that's come out called ministry truth now , to be ministry of truth now, to be fair, i broke some of this in my book, state of fear in may 21. and you said that people called you a conspiracy theorist . david you a conspiracy theorist. david aronowitz writing the papers are saying nonsense. laura saying is all nonsense. laura dodsworth what vindication for dodsworth what a vindication for you. i guess i always you. now i guess i always thought responding to that review probably me, review was probably beneath me, because course of time, because over the course of time, book always going stand book was always going to stand out a cheap, nasty out better than a cheap, nasty review ad review that relied upon ad hominem . the point is that these hominem. the point is that these units within government that are monitoring our speech online and

in the media are totally shadowy . we don't know what they're doing , but a . we don't know what they're doing, but a series of . we don't know what they're doing , but a series of subject doing, but a series of subject access requests for freedom of information requests has found that they were monitoring mps yes. mp david davis. david davis. marcus fish . journalists. davis. marcus fish. journalists. scientists myself as well . not scientists myself as well. not for unlawful speech and unlawful content, for not disinformation so much as dissent and criticism of the government. so emails, sorry, not emails. tweets youtube videos, articles that were critical of the government were critical of the government were monitored and taken down from social media. just to be clear on that. so that is the government department, that is military units even within the government who have got in touch with twitter and facebook and said that law adult's worth is put a how counter counter ring government messaging you we would like you to take it down and they did i don't know whether any of my content was

taken down, but the launch of my book was featured in a counter disinformation weekly report that's across whitehall and some choice quotes about it were included. funny enough, at the same time, it turns out that inter—governmental letters were praising my book as thoroughly researched and succinctly, laying bare the government's programming affair. so what the counter disinformation unit considered to be borderline disinformation and it wilson was something that was being praised by fellow departments culture, media and sports staff. so what's incredible is that they had a particular focus on, for instance, vaccine passports . and instance, vaccine passports. and at the time when the government was consulting upon them, the policy was not set. they were consulting , they were flagging consulting, they were flagging up tweets and videos by david davis , marcus fish, julia davis, marcus fish, julia hartley—brewer, which a tie so and calling them vaccine sceptics when what they were doing was criticising the mandates and the passports . same mandates and the passports. same thing happened to big brother watch big brother watch actually

tweeted encouraging people to sign a government petition website petition asking for the passports not to go ahead. and that flagged as disinformation. so these units which were set up, by the way, to be temporary counter disinformation unit was set up to be temporary. this ended up being permanent and of course, grown. it's about trebled in size from what we know from know have switched from monitoring enemy agents , you monitoring enemy agents, you know, foreign countries to monitoring british citizens. and it's about , monitoring british citizens. and it's about, as you said, about quelling debate. so they were performing sentiment analysis, trying to out how the trying to work out how the british feel then british people feel and then taking speech , which was taking down speech, which was completely . now, the completely lawful. now, the army's 77th brigade, which specialises in psychological operations and non—lethal warfare, was also drafted in by the cabinet office's rapid response unit. what's quite interesting about this big brother watch report is a whistle blower from the 77th has spoken to them and said that although they were told they're not supposed to be monitoring british, they were. and i think it to be worried when

it has to be really worried when a government and its army are not just monitoring enemy states, foreign bad actors, but its own citizens to see who's criticise the government. that is a very dangerous state spin. there's something rotten at the heart of government if they're doing that. and i've been out. what's what what do you think of this story? it's so interesting. i funded immensely, i think. i agree with laura on the underlying story and i probably disagree with laura on a number of things that, she was saying that that that we're critiquing certain areas of policy. but ultimately i think you have to take the separation of the behaviour of government in monitoring , behaviour of government in monitoring, surveilling behaviour of government in monitoring , surveilling citizens monitoring, surveilling citizens away from whether you agree or disagree on the issue of the day in which they happen to be surveilling them on. so there may come a time where i would be critiquing the government on a completely separate issue on

which laura might completely agree with them, on. but i hope that she would also say i'm sure she would, because this is the point we're making, that point that we're making, that it's the government's role it's not the government's role to dissent against to quell dissent against government it's government policy. it's government's role to deliver their policy and make case for it against people who might disagree with them. yeah. and so and i, you know, we've seen this across the political spectrum and i was saying i so my father was diane abbott's first election agent and we are fairly confident that our phone was bugged at the time . and i've bugged at the time. and i've never done a subject access or anything like that. but back in the day, the technology was not that good. we used to hear clicking on the end of the line. usually it was me aged 12 and my best mate chatting about what happenedin best mate chatting about what happened in school. we used to actually say, oh, is actually joke and say, oh, is this interesting for you? yeah. do you want to know what? nigel jackson's been upset by some . i jackson's been upset by some. i think we have to take the

principle that a government should not be behaving like that towards its systems . yeah, all towards its systems. yeah, all of the arguments about what the issues are. and i think that's where i completely agree with laura. i do think it ratcheted up during the pandemic because . up during the pandemic because. i'm so sorry, ladies. we've got rishi sunak did a lot of talking for us this morning. we'll be back in just a moment. we got lots more to talk about. i'm also going to be to talking silky carlow from from big brother watch who enacted that report been report we've just been discussing in next discussing also in the next houn discussing also in the next hour. but back in a moment. santa hello there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. a dry day for most of us with some sunshine, the best of which will be in the east. cloudy skies generally in the west. ahead a frontal system west. ahead of a frontal system that will push later in that will push in for later in the day . but front, this the day. but this front, this cold front that's crossing the channel now, that's brought some rain earlier on, it is now clearing to brighter skies. also, fresher feel for the also, a fresher feel for the north, in particular with cold north—west to the airflow that's

easing through the rest of the day and taking its showers away with it. but a further showers are likely to affect parts of western scotland. northern ireland at times, mostly light, and for many it's a dry day. sunny spells in the east, nine or ten celsius, cloudy skies further west, eight or nine celsius. so temperatures not far from average into the evening, though it turns increasingly wet across western scotland. that rain pushing its way eastwards and into northern ireland by midnight, arriving into england dunng midnight, arriving into england during the early hours , some during the early hours, some heavy bursts of rain associated with this system as it moves south eastwards , followed by south eastwards, followed by blustery showers into the north, an early frost possible in the south—east before things turn cloudy and for most, a frost free starts tuesday . lots of free starts tuesday. lots of cloud about for england and wales. some outbreaks of rain pushing the south during the morning . the rain tending to morning. the rain tending to peter out and it does clear by lunchtime with brighter skies arriving. but it's a windy day, especially for the north, with gales, rain exposed north

western coasts and hills and a lot of showers coming in as well for scotland. northern ireland and parts of north—west england. those showers falling as snow over the hills. further south, it's largely dry after that. early clouds and spotty rain. it's looking like a brighter afternoon with some sunshine, but for all of us, it's a breezy day, i think. and as we end tuesday, there'll be further showers coming into the north, largely dry further south, and we do it all again on thursday and friday. most of the unsettled weather affecting northern areas .

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before midday, we're looking at the prime minister's £1 billion emergency care plan announced less than an hour ago as he tries to save your nhs, identify . but i have some serious questions about our prime minister's judgement following the sacking of nadhim zahawi and the sacking of nadhim zahawi and the secret government unit that's been spying on social media posts. yours might have been amongst them. a shocking report was revealed over the weekend that lockdown sceptics were monitored throughout the pandemic, with the government liaising with media companies to quell voices . liaising with media companies to quell voices. going quell dissenting voices. going to to woman to be talking to the woman behind the investigation just behind the investigation in just a but that's all coming a moment. but that's all coming up at the latest up after a look at the latest with . tamsin thanks very much, with. tamsin thanks very much, beth . good morning. from the gb beth. good morning. from the gb newsroom. it's 11:01. beth. good morning. from the gb newsroom. it's11:01. the newsroom. it's 11:01. the government hasn't launched a £1 billion emerging sea care plan for england today as the nhs continues to face severe pressures , rishi sunak is pressures, rishi sunak is promising hundred new ambulances

, 5000 more hospital beds as well as expanding urgent care to people's homes over the next two years. experts warn there should be a bigger focus on staffing, shortages and pay. but the prime minister says his new plan is best chance at cutting waiting . best chance at cutting waiting. this back in a nutshell is the plan with small more beds, more ambulances , more staff, better ambulances, more staff, better social care . and if we can social care. and if we can deliver on it, if we can deliver on it, then i think we will see. in fact, i know we will see the largest and faster ever improvement in emergency waiting times in the nhs as that is the ambition of all plan that we've set out today . the labour party set out today. the labour party is urging the prime minister to reveal what he knew about the investigate asian into nadhim zahawi taxify and when labour's deputy leader angela rayner has written mr. sunak urging him to come clean . the prime minister come clean. the prime minister sacked the conservative party chairman on sunday after an

ethics inquiry found he'd committed a serious breach of the ministerial code. conservative mp for lichfield, michael fabricant told gb news getting rid of mr. zahawi was the right decision. you know, paying the right decision. you know, paying a penalty is not that unusual. when you're in dispute with hmrc . a new guv, as you with hmrc. a new guv, as you know , is a very big corporation know, is a very big corporation with offices in the united kingdom. america and other countries. so i was sympathetic. but you know, it was becoming a distract from. yes nadhim zahawi did tell civil servants that there was a dispute going on, but it should have been in writing. you have to do things properly. but i can tell you as a former minister that the ministerial code is quite complex , dated. so people do complex, dated. so people do make mistakes. but i think richard was absolutely right to wait and i think was absolutely right to make the decision that he did . last right to make the decision that he did. last minute right to make the decision that he did . last minute talks he did. last minute talks between teaching unions and the government are being held today in effort to avoid strike in an effort to avoid strike action and wales.

action in england and wales. teachers are planning to strike on wednesday in a dispute over pay on wednesday in a dispute over pay and conditions with up to 23,000 schools affected. it's expected to be the biggest day of industrial action hit the uk in decades. with up to half a million public service workers , million public service workers, including train drivers, teachers and civil servants, also taking action. the government says can't afford to meet the pay demands of every industry taking action . further industry taking action. further strikes are also planned , strikes are also planned, however, for february and march . meanwhile, fire fighters could vote today for their first nationwide strike over pay for 20 years. the fire brigades union says its have experienced a 12% drop in real terms earnings since 2010. last november . then there's rejected november. then there's rejected a pay november. then there's rejected a pay rise of 5% the home secretary suella braverman has urged peers to back prop up penalties for disruptive protesters in a proposed new law

. the government says the changes to the public order bill would allow police officers, officers to intervene before protesters become highly disruptive and use these new powers with demonstrator as blocking roads or slow marching . unions and rights groups have described the new bill as a historic attack on democrats rights . the family of 15 historic attack on democrats rights. the family of 15 year old holly newton , who was old holly newton, who was stabbed to death in northumbria , have paid tribute to their much loved and bubbly girl. holly was found injured on friday and died from her wounds in hospital . a 16 year old boy in hospital. a 16 year old boy is appearing in court today charged with her murder murder . charged with her murder murder. a major search is underway after a woman has missing in lancashire while walking her dog. 45 year old nicola pooley was last seen two days ago on a footpath in st michaels on where police are urging anyone with information to come forward . information to come forward. bofis information to come forward. boris johnson says vladimir

putin threatened to kill him just weeks before russia's invasion of ukraine. comment was made during a phone call after mr. johnson visited kyiv to show support for ukraine. he made the claim in a bbc documentary . he claim in a bbc documentary. he sort of. he threatened me at one point and said, you know, boris, i don't want to hurt you , but i don't want to hurt you, but with a missile it would only take a minute or something like that, you know, you jolly . but i that, you know, you jolly. but i think from the very real laxed tone that he was taking , the tone that he was taking, the sort of air of detached moment that he seemed to have , vision, that he seemed to have, vision, period, he was just playing along with my attempts to get him to negotiate . while the him to negotiate. while the kremlin has responded to the former prime minister's claim, describing it as a lie. this gb news more from me shortly now, though, is back to back .

though, is back to back. kyiv morning. welcome back. today on gb news tv on dab radio . here's gb news tv on dab radio. here's what's coming up on the show this morning. the prime minister has defended decision to sack nadhim zahawi as tory party chair following a row over his tax affairs, saying integrity is really importance to me. it came as mr. sunak announced plans to support struggling emergency care services in the nhs today. the billion pound proposal would be used to fund thousands of new hospital beds and 800 new ambulances and is big brother watching . you will be looking watching. you will be looking into a new report . watching. you will be looking into a new report. big watching. you will be looking into a new report . big brother. into a new report. big brother. watch the ministry of truth. it looks at secretive whitehall units which have been monitoring onune units which have been monitoring online of government critics . online of government critics. yes, you heard that correctly. i'll be talking to this report's author . so key carlo within

author. so key carlo within houn author. so key carlo within hour. and of course, the show much improved with you and your views. email me, gb views. at gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news to have your say . so the prime to have your say. so the prime minister is under pressure over his own knowledge of nadhim zahawi tax affairs. rishi sunak said integrity is really important to me as he defended his decision to sack the conservative party chairman following a row his tax. labour have written to mr. sunak asking him what he knew about the investigation into mr. zahawi tax affairs and when he knew this information. now let's get more from political consultant and strategist peter barnes. peter good morning . to. what are peter good morning. to. what are your thoughts on the chronology of this particular drama? did rishi sunak get it right ? and rishi sunak get it right? and how important is it for us to know what he knew and particularly, i the prime minister's got this right. it

just seems to have taken a long time to get to the right answer. that seems to be my main criticism of it. rishi to come. i do think don't think i do think i don't think complaint the right phrase, complaint is the right phrase, but does need to be very honest about he knew and when. about what he knew and when. mainly the conservative mainly because the conservative main moment seems main problem at the moment seems to trust. we've had partygate to be trust. we've had partygate . have old partisan . we have the old partisan affair. had chris affair. we've had the chris pincher there's pincher incident. there's been a lot badly behaved . lot of tory mp badly behaved. and i think that's one of the reasons they're doing so badly in the polls. so they can keep announcing all the policies they like. but i still they actually get of public get the trust of the public back.i get the trust of the public back. i think it really is back. i don't think it really is going ounce of going to make an ounce of difference. you know, we have this did it with the seven principles of a public life that all our public should adhere all of our public should adhere to, integrity, to, selflessness, integrity, objectivity accountability, openness and leadership . given openness and leadership. given that we now know rishi sunak is certainly guilty of not adhering the public principle of honesty . shouldn't they have the whip taken away, not just lose his

cabinet position? he should be gone completely. shouldn't he ? gone completely. shouldn't he? well, that's always a matter . well, that's always a matter. the whips. it's a matter for downing street itself to decide if there are certain other factors you have to put into place. also, can you keep the backbenchers happy because there are rumours right that mrs. are rumours right now that mrs. zahawi is not going to back down from this fight any time soon. and i imagine downing street would rather the story go away purely because they want to roll out this pound out what this billion pound emergency for the nhs emergency plan for, for the nhs and want on and they really want to get on with the agenda. one of the reasons i think this always reasons i think this is always going relatively quickly going to relatively quickly is because became a because this story became a distraction. was distraction. i think it was michael fabricant your michael fabricant and on your show, on the show earlier saying , that this was , that is this this was a distraction. i think that's where it's always gone. and they're hoping if allows they're hoping that if allows them keep the whip, might them to keep the whip, he might just mouth shut. the just keep his mouth shut. the thing is, peter zahawi a long a rather long track record of lying effectively. this has now been proven by this ethics investigation . he was also the investigation. he was also the gentleman stood up in the house

of commons and said, we have no plans, vaccine, passports whilst they were tendering contracts for vaccine passports. said they were tendering contracts for havene passports. said they were tendering contracts for have no passports. said they were tendering contracts for have no plansyrts. said they were tendering contracts for have no plans to ., said they were tendering contracts for have no plans to vaccinate we have no plans to vaccinate children. those plans children. whilst those plans have been put in place by the jcb . so | have been put in place by the jcb . so i think from a from jcb. so i think from a from a voters point of view , there will voters point of view, there will be a lot of anger out there that he doesn't just go he isn't made to leave at this point. and having just rishi sunak speaking this morning is saying our view is a getting in touch. this morning is saying our view is a getting in touch . i've got is a getting in touch. i've got a whole page of views people deeply dislike, even a lifelong conservative members deeply dislike. rishi sunak. conservative members deeply dislike. rishi sunak . they are dislike. rishi sunak. they are scared that if he doesn't take, more action he's going to lose the next election . well, i could the next election. well, i could understand the anger. i really can trust as a conservative myself, it is annoying when this when these stories come about. but do people have to but i do think people have to look at the whole board, as it were. mr. zahawi, is rather well—liked on the backbenches he does have a strong reputation in westminster and he has been an effective minister in certain

areas. i do agree with you that over the vaccine passports on all those issues? i thought while both i thought he was out the door then i was surprised when mr. sunak put him back in his cabinet in first place. his cabinet in the first place. i say. but whether this is i will say. but whether this is going to bring down the prime minister, don't think so. i think this is of these kind think this is one of these kind of what is another story to the camel's back? i don't think it's the that's going break. the straw that's going to break. it but i completely it just but i know i completely people's because trust me, it just but i know i completely pwould; because trust me, it just but i know i completely pwould speak because trust me, it just but i know i completely pwould speak spigot se trust me, it just but i know i completely pwould speak spigot to trust me, it just but i know i completely pwould speak spigot to itust me, it just but i know i completely pwould speak spigot to it and ne, i would speak spigot to it and these just pretty much all over these just pretty much all over the weekend and were just the weekend and they were just like he needs go but what he like he needs to go but what he needs to do really if was which is i will take take the rap on the knuckles go go to the backbench and be quiet for a little while. remember regain your reputation a little bit, maybe some charity maybe work in some charity sector, something like that, sector, do something like that, and try get back into and then try and get back into government. problem, think, government. my problem, i think, is to try and blame the is going to try and blame the media a lot of this. if you media for a lot of this. if you read his letter , i think that read his letter, i think that made very he's not made it very that he's not apologised any of it. apologised for any of it. i think that's also annoyed on lot of people, even lifelong , that

of people, even lifelong, that he's caught doing . hold your he's got caught doing. hold your hands up and say, i got absolutely. so that must be slightly terrified of him. peter let me read this. what some of our viewers have been saying in relation what said next relation to what said next performance up in performance this morning. up in county durham. nick says his could replicated by sellotape could be replicated by sellotape in on a wooden spoon in paper arms on a wooden spoon and twisting fast. so force and twisting it fast. so force team leader, no gravity in the office of prime minister anymore . a trust started to restore it and they did for her. look. looking at all of them, politics is in a dark place. bernard emails. what sham. all these questions have up for. questions have been set up for. it stands out a mile. pizza says watching rishi. you might as well watching stick of well be watching a stick of brighton no charisma brighton rock. no charisma whatsoever. would you as a whatsoever. how would you as a strategist, how would you as a strategist, how would you as a strategist deal with that man running for the next general election? well i would actually do what they're doing right now, and that's getting getting rishi on the road. i was really surprised that for some time rishi was basically non non—existent. didn't look non—existent. he didn't look

like in charge like he was in charge of anything. jeremy hunt was basically the country, basically running the country, according of people, according to a lot of people, and think that's why lot of and i think that's why a lot of this coming from. the problem this is coming from. the problem is, two weeks, is, over the last two weeks, when they tried to get support get him out on the road, you had them him getting fixed penalty them him getting a fixed penalty notice. i think you've had this zahawi somewhat zahawi thing. so it's somewhat of of events. i think of a victim of events. i think rishi, being honest. rishi, if i'm being honest. well, i would really well, one thing i would really do him is needs to sound do with him is he needs to sound more ministerial. sam, will prime will. he's not prime minister will. he's not really gravitas at the really got the gravitas at the moment. got the policy moment. he's got the policy damage. of damage. he's got the kind of hard and commitment. hard work and commitment. i don't that for a second, don't doubt that for a second, but he's not really got the i'm the minister one the prime minister vibe. one thing you could always get boris johnson you might not johnson yeah, you might not agree looks agree with that, but he looks like a minister. okay like a prime minister. okay peter political peter barnes, political consultant, much. consultant, thank you so much. i get feeling he's got get the feeling he's just got one fly out the door all the time, don't you? not peter. i meant rishi sunak tv, these political correspondents. tom harwood in harwood is with me in the studio. let's just have studio. hi, tom. let's just have a listen, tom, before a quick listen, tom, before i come you, too, watson said come to you, too, watson said when he was asked about sackings. zahawi what done sackings. zahawi what i've done follow is the

follow a process which is the process. integrity is really important all of guys important to me. all of you guys want that government's want to see that government's run properly, it's with run properly, that it's run with integrity it is accountable integrity and it is accountable to people don't behave in to when people don't behave in the way that they should or something doesn't go right. and that's we've done. tom that's what we've done. tom harwood what do you think harwood go on. what do you think of this morning? of him this morning? which didn't at all? didn't impress you at all? i think really interesting think it's really interesting when watch these sort of when we watch these sort of events this is the second pm connect event that he has now come out with that, tom, who if you were advising him you wouldn't clip pm connects he's not a broadband service don't behave one. well it's behave like one. well it's interesting because this was actually darlington this actually in darlington this morning where the treasury kemp is and when he was chancellor he started these events called treasury connect. so it's really following with what he believes was a sensible formula. perhaps he thought it served him well as chancellor. i have to probably the most the country didn't know about it. yeah. but clearly he this sort of 1 to 1 interaction with in a relatively controlled environment compared to perhaps his predecessors. boris johnson

for example he might have preferred a big rally as we saw in a number of occasions during the brexit campaign in the 2019 general election , to which is general election, to which is know because of those politicians who would rather a smaller, more intimate environment. and to be fair to him, he is on top of detail. he can point to the amount of money going from x to y or the number of extra beds or whatever it is he can sort of recall that it's just the way that he presents. it can sometimes seem almost too analytic and perhaps not personal . his memory robot in personal. his memory robot in his home, like he's really good at passing exams, which is why he was head boy winchester. but where's humanity? the irony of calling it pm connects with what he to do is connect . yeah, he fails to do is connect. yeah, i think it's a really interesting point there. obviously a lot of the criticism seems that idea that he doesn't really what what life is really know what what life is like has had a pretty like because he has had a pretty fortunate life now he would point to and as he did during

the summer in the leadership contest sort of how his parents weren't, you know, as wealthy as he now, like they they he is now, like they were they were to be middle, was were raised to be middle, was ficher were raised to be middle, was richer the king of finance. richer than the king of finance. but sort of his his parents sort of managing a pharmacy growing up sort of were managing payroll sort of it wasn't it wasn't born with a silver star. he wasn't born with a silver spoon, but he wasn't born in poverty either. and i think that he tried to sort of get that across, but also, obviously his whole also, obviously for his whole aduu also, obviously for his whole adult been very adult life, he has been a very individual and did go to individual and he did go to a very good school. he did sort of have a of privilege in life have a lot of privilege in life and that may well be sort of more difficulty if you're then trying to say, i know what it's like, almost it might be a better idea for rishi sunak to sort of lean in to how boris johnson did things, which is when he was asked, what's the price, of bread. he'd price, a loaf of bread. he'd say, no, but i can tell you say, i've no, but i can tell you the price of a bottle of champagne a way that's sort champagne in a way that's sort of and the way that of honest. and the way that jacob rees—mogg is honest about who doesn't pretend be who he is doesn't pretend to be anything he and doesn't anything he is and doesn't

forget football tv supposed forget the football tv supposed to it's to be supporting that week. it's sometimes of honesty sometimes that sort of honesty can in in a better can cut through in a in a better way. i'm not here to advise way. but i'm not here to advise rishi i'm just sort of rishi sunak. i'm just sort of think should be tom think you should be tom observing the way in which these sort events, which are sort of events, which are clearly to emulate john clearly designed to emulate john major's successful 1992 election campaign, where out of campaign, where he got out of his and went from town his soap box and went from town to standing on that to sound standing on that soapbox was doing in soapbox saying he was doing in many . that's a sort of similar many. that's a sort of similar thing to what rishi sunak is doing. ultimately , john doing. but ultimately, john major boy from brixton who major was a boy from brixton who didn't university , who didn't go to university, who done he became prime done good. he became prime minister. there was that famous 1992 election poster from the conservatives . what do the conservatives. what do the conservatives. what do the conservatives do for a boy from brixton? made him prime brixton? they made him prime minister. something minister. well, that's something they the boy of they can't do. the head boy of winchester college. that's winchester college. no, that's right. against that, the is right. but against that, the is brilliant because also john major wasn't naturally the most charismatic egg, he did charismatic egg, but he did manage be himself and pushed manage to be himself and pushed himself line . will himself over the line. will rishi sunak be able to do the same anyway, same thing? who knows? anyway, tom you. right. tom harwood, thank you. right. coming up in just a moment, panellists talk

panellists will be back to talk about the sacking nadhim zahawi and hussey and how lady susan hussey has reunited charles. reunited with king charles. quick .

to h arry. to harry. good morning . it's 1122. harry. good morning. it's1122. this is back tennis day on. right my panel are back with me this morning. i'm joined by author and journalist laura deau author and journalist laura dealt with and political commentator burnell. we commentator emma burnell. we were just working out the emma knows laura from laura's books . knows laura from laura's books. you're not familiar on account of laura. laura as a photographer, she did an book about boobs and then one about is yes. and one about elvis breasts man had about penises and woman heard about vulvas. yes. the channel 4 documentary, a hundred vaginas eclectic. it's an eclectic which makes sense if you think about it. i promise .

you think about it. i promise. now, from talking about that, to talk about, that's neat . neat. talk about, that's neat. neat. so i can't imagine the connection. i got no idea of the lives in my head coming out of my mouth without taking a moment. laura did you were you surprised by the news over the weekend that he got the boot from the cavernous or not? no, no, i wasn't surprised. i think he probably should have resigned as chairman earlier. agree. as chairman earlier. i agree. but think you know, but i think there's you know, there's couple of go there's a couple of ways to go this. it'sjust there's a couple of ways to go this. it's just like resigned quickly. not another quickly. it's not another aren't enough stories of corruption and sleaze sleaze tory party. sleaze sleaze in the tory party. so do the right thing. but i would say having gone down this 6 would say having gone down this g this ethics route, i think he should have then been given a chance, respond. i think if going to go down that route, make it make it really full, make it make it really full, make it make it really full, make it really clean because now he's the opportunity say he's got the opportunity to say this this the full this wasn't this wasn't the full due wasn't given. due process. i wasn't given. give chance . i mean, he did give my chance. i mean, he did write his letter, didn't he, blaming well, blaming media? yeah. well, you know, by the sword, die by know, live by the sword, die by the they will use the the sword. they will use the media whichever way suits media whichever way it suits them time. i think them all the time. i think

what's interesting about what's more interesting about this is that rishi from this really is that rishi from a six ago to publish own six months ago to publish own tax affairs and he still hasn't. and course, it's and and of course, it's yeah. and his saying that up his wife saying that up approximately his wife saying that up approximately £20 million by having status. so i think that the party as a whole really needs to clean his house out. it's not just nadhim zahawi. i don't blame them for not wanting to pay taxes because look at how most of it's wasted. absolutely. do you think, emma, that he should lose the whip as well ? should lose the whip as well? yeah, he's a he seems to have there are seven quite serious counts of breaking not the ministerial code but the standards on public life, the nolan principles employees are supposed to abide by and i think they're all expectations should be able to have of people who are making our laws whereby they do not try to fiddle around and it just to me it seems really pathetic that he's just mean you

when you become the chair of the tory party you're the embodiment of that party job was to go on the media and say we're great, you're terrible. that's yeah and he just couldn't do that. and i also find it very funny that while were sitting in the break, i got a breaking news alert from the bbc . i got a breaking news alert from the bbc. rishi i got a breaking news alert from the bbc . rishi sunak says been the bbc. rishi sunak says been pretty decisive . i've been in. pretty decisive. i've been in. do not i mean, as a common person please do not use a qualifier you're telling yourself decisive just just bafic. yourself decisive just just basic . i've yourself decisive just just basic. i've been yourself decisive just just basic . i've been fairly decisive basic. i've been fairly decisive it could have been a little bit more, but i. what's so shocking, though, laura, is what do you have to do to ever lose the whip? these days? i mean, it is it is astonishing talk about maxine holmes, the good point, andrew, britain did exactly that . yes, of course. and did i mean, the fact that he has they said to him, are you being obsessed, you know, i sort of think we should. no no, there's nothing you should know. and he

was being investigated by the hmrc at that. the barefaced dishonesty that. both dishonesty of that. well both rishi nadhim zahawi rishi sunak and nadhim zahawi have of the have been chancellor of the exchequer with no exchequer and with this no aspersion that rishi sunak's the only thing illegal. of course, his saved a mint being his wife saved a mint by being non—dom nadhim was non—dom nadhim zahawi was charles exchequer , and not charles the exchequer, and not being about being by being upfront about being by hmrc . don't forget though, when hmrc. don't forget though, when he was for health, he said categorically that vaccine would not be introduced while there were tenders out to develop vaccine. passport software . so vaccine. passport software. so it's not the first time that he's what do we call it this day? we don't call it a lie. we it a public untruth or something . so, you know, it's not the first time he hasn't been upfront. so no. right. okay. moving on now to a slightly different a lovely story, actually. it's in the papers today. a lady who 76 today. this is a lady who 76 years old and she basically became a fitness influencer in

her seventies, which is just so brilliant. i think got some pictures of her. she celebrates her birthday by ziplining across a canyon and she's gone whitewater rafting, parachuting skydiving on my bucket list for future birthdays . this skydiving on my bucket list for future birthdays. this is so brilliant, isn't this wonderful? it reminds me of two things. first of all, i'm currently writing a play which centred on a group of women who meet every way. so like a slimming world type group. and one of them is doing bucket list and they all decide to do it with her, but it also friday morning at 930, i get a whatsapp call with my sister and, my mum and my mum . sister and, my mum and my mum. my 72 year old mum needs to say that really quite tough, flirty session so she is this she's my fit 15 and fluid so i can't say yeah do it you know the thing is laura you know kind of we talk about retirement we talk about retirement lot last week the age of retirement being raised and therefore what is it be a 60

year old now? what is it? basic year old now? what is it? basic year old, do you think? we're all kind of, roughly about ten years younger than? oh, would years younger than? oh, we would have were both. have been when we were both. absolutely. i mean. i turned 50 last as far as i'm last week. as far as i'm concerned, new 30. so concerned, 50 is the new 30. so by time i'm 70, i'll be 50. by the time i'm 70, i'll be 50. ithis a by the time i'm 70, i'll be 50. i this a really inspiring story because i think it sets a great example to young i hope young people see this you know in the us in children and us one in five children and teenagers, obese and what's their what a government guidelines said that early kids in their early teens if they're obese should have drug loss therapy drugs and surgery. and here's somebody in his 70 she's ditched her medication and lost stone and is now ziplining canyons and lifting weights . canyons and lifting weights. yeah that's how life could be. not everybody. sure, but there's a lot can do by adopting a healthy diet and lifestyle. so i find it really encouraging . find it really encouraging. that's going to be me when i'm 70. this is the here we here we are. we have a picture of her here. joan she's american she's

become this fitness inspire . and become this fitness inspire. and she looks fabulous, doesn't she look at her. they're lifting weights. brilliant i mean, i have to say, i lost a great deal have to say, i lost a great deal. i mean , obviously, i've deal. i mean, obviously, i've still got more to go, but i lost a great deal of weight in my early forties. i became single in my early forties. i have it reckoned brilliant. dad, you bnng reckoned brilliant. dad, you bring the forties really are your new twenties. as far as my life stories, i remember we were talking last time you had everyone you show me some photos, us how photos, remind us how much weight you i've lost 12 weight you lost. i've lost 12 and half stone. 12 and a half and a half stone. 12 and a half stone. is my son, mark stone. that is my son, mark moore. well done. you had moore. well done. and you had surgery? surgery to . which surgery? i had surgery to. which basically it's like basically helps. it's like a kick start . it doesn't the kick start. it doesn't the effects of it don't last. that long. but if you can take moment and run with it. so i'm now eating normally and i exercise a lot and i'm able to do things i just couldn't do before. so i've said before i walk everywhere i refuse a car to come to and from

the studio, because for me it's really important to build that 20 minutes from walking each way into day and make sure that that's just my natural instinct all the time to be moving, to keep walking, to eat . and i keep walking, to eat. and i couldn't have done it. i think , couldn't have done it. i think, without having that that kick start. yeah, but i know that that kickstart was not the whole story. yeah you've, i know you've spoken before. i'm a really about the psychology core relationship that we have with food and how, how important it is address that is to really address that absolutely. the change doesn't come here it comes up here and you've do the work in your you've to do the work in your head you can do anything head before you can do anything else and you to change what else and you have to change what be a very, very negative spiral into a positive loop and that that does come from all sorts of different things. and you do need to deal with with all of those problems. and it's really hard because food addiction is an addiction like anything else . but what you can't do is give up food completely . you have to

up food completely. you have to in a measured way. it's asking an alcoholic to drink a glass of wine a day, but only one. yeah it's really hard, actually , when it's really hard, actually, when you put it like that. right. thank you, ladies now, coming up in just a while, is big brother watching you? i'm going to be looking through report which watching you? i'm going to be lookinythatough report which watching you? i'm going to be lookinythat your report which watching you? i'm going to be lookinythat your tweets nhich shows that your tweets and facebook posts could a risk facebook posts could pose a risk to free speech. that's all to your free speech. that's all your morning stays with . tamsin your morning stays with. tamsin fair. thank you. good morning. from the gb newsroom 1131, here are the headlines the government has announced a billion pound emergency plan for england today as the nhs continued to face severe pressures . rishi sunak is severe pressures. rishi sunak is promising 800 new ambulances , promising 800 new ambulances, 5000 more hospital beds as well as expanding urgent care to people's homes over next two years. experts warn there should be a bigger focus on staff shortages and pay . the prime shortages and pay. the prime minister says his new plan is the best chance at cutting

waiting lists. but in a nutshell , is the plan with more more beds, more ambulances , more beds, more ambulances, more staff, better social? and if we can deliver on it, if we can deliver on it, then i think we will see. in fact, i know we will see. in fact, i know we will see. in fact, i know we will see the largest and ever improvement in emergency waiting times in the nhs is history. thatis times in the nhs is history. that is the ambition of all plan that we've set out today . the that we've set out today. the prime minister has this morning defended his handling of the nadeem zahawi row, saying he acted decisively mr. sunak has been under pressure to reveal what he knew about the investigation into zahawi tax affairs and when with labour's deputy leader angela rayner urging him to come clean , the urging him to come clean, the prime minister sacked the conservative party chairman on sunday after an ethics inquiry found committed a serious breach of the ministerial code . of the ministerial code. conservative mp for lichfield michael fabricant told gb news getting rid of mr. zahawi was

right decision. you know, paying a penalty is not that unusual or when you're in dispute with hmrc and yougov as you know a very big corporation with offices in the united kingdom america and other countries so i was sympathetic but you know it was becoming a distraction yes. now zahawi did tell civil servants that there was a dispute going on, but it should been in writing. you have to do things properly. but i can tell you, as a former minister that the minister ill code is quite complicated . so people do make complicated. so people do make mistakes. but i think rishi was absolutely right to wait and i think was absolutely right to make the decision that he did last minute talks between teaching unions and the government are being held today in an effort avoid strike action in an effort avoid strike action in england and wales. teachers are planning to strike on wednesday in a dispute over pay and conditions with . up to and conditions with. up to 23,000 schools affected . it's 23,000 schools affected. it's expected to be the biggest day of industrial action to hit the uk decades, with up to half a

million public service workers , million public service workers, including train drivers and civil servants also taking action . the government says it action. the government says it can't afford to meet the demands of every industry . further of every industry. further strikes are also planned february and march . tv, online february and march. tv, online and dab+ radio. this is.

gb views. very good morning. it's 1136. very good morning. it's1136. this is bev turner today on gb news. now a new report says that academics, journalists , academics, journalists, politicians who criticise the government's covid response were spied . pub civil liberties spied. pub civil liberties organisation brother watch has obtained documents to agencies whose job it is to tackle hostile state misinformation. it also targeted critics of the

government. so joining me now to explain more is the director of big brother watch, silky carlos silk. really. good morning. great to see you. so you and your organisation were behind this. tell us how it all started and what was the process been like to access this information in? good see you and thanks for having me . this started prior to having me. this started prior to the beginning of the pandemic that we heard about some counter misinformed asian units that were started in government because this impacts freedom speech. of course, we wanted to know what it was that they were doing and they were totally resistant to any kind of transparency, which of course makes one a bit suspicious about what they might be doing. and so after reading long and tireless investigation, we have found that a far from working on disinformation in these units have been monitoring and record ing critics of government . that ing critics of government. that includes some of the most expert

voices that they're all on the extreme policies that the government was implementing whether it was lockdown modelling or mass testing vaccine passports . they were vaccine passports. they were highly interested in. and so we've seen people from members of parliament to journalists and worldly academics record dead by these so—called misinformation units. and these units has to be said, have a special with big tech so they can flag information on to the companies that they think should be suppressed or censored . it's suppressed or censored. it's sort of. did you ever think silk roadin sort of. did you ever think silk road in your lifetime would have such clear cut evidence of this sort of surveil going on within the uk ? i mean , coming out now, the uk? i mean, coming out now, it's come out in the twitter files . well that there in the us files. well that there in the us there were close relationships between government and big tech companies. of course hoped the you know this would never happen

and we've called the report ministry of truth in orwellian style because this is an orwellian script . and i have orwellian script. and i have pinched myself throughout this investigation and at the things that we have found, let alone the british army whistleblower spoke to us from the 77th brigade. holy unit and who revealed to us that they were spying on the population at large as well , with absolutely large as well, with absolutely no safeguards to me that brits weren't part their investigation. you know, these are people that claim to be fighting russian troll farms and this kind of thing. and actually they were spying on our own population . so, you know, we population. so, you know, we need to see this information is coming out . we need to see coming out. we need to see change. i'm asking anyone who cares this. please go to our website . the campaign site is website. the campaign site is minnie truth .co.uk and sign the petition . join us because we petition. join us because we unless we unravel this now , it's

unless we unravel this now, it's staying for good. the counter disinformation unit that we've exposed is now a purge and a unit within government working on other topics, not the pandemic. we don't know what it needs to be shut down. this counter disinformation unit needs to be suspended immediately . we need to open an immediately. we need to open an investigation into exactly what happened. investigation into exactly what happened . so let me play devil's happened. so let me play devil's advocate for a minute. hit silk , some might say perhaps that there need to be these governmental departments, perhaps monitoring potential activities . do you feel that the activities. do you feel that the line has been blurred without enough public scrutiny of those decisions ? absolutely and decisions? absolutely and i think the terrorists should be monitored online. and i think the reason that this counter misinformation effort has enjoyed so much political support is because where there's been this vacuum of information about, what they're actually doing, people have just kind of made people assume made it up. people assume

they're fighting russian disinformation and chinese bots and all this kind of stuff, but we see the truth . professor carl we see the truth. professor carl hennigan from oxford , not a hennigan from oxford, not a terrorist. david davis, one of the most senior people in the conservative party, not a domestic threat . and yet these domestic threat. and yet these people were being described to threats and boxes, all these ridiculous slurs that weren't true . misinformation, if you true. misinformation, if you like , and being compiled in like, and being compiled in reports . you know, these are reports. you know, these are also people that experience censorship online during this penod censorship online during this period i think is no coincidence . so, yes, of course , that . so, yes, of course, that there's a place . for the there's a place. for the activity of state agency, sometimes secret activity . sometimes secret activity. people's lives are at risk. and so on. but here we had difference of opinions. and i have to say, actually, a lot of the opinions that government was so worried about have been vindicated in long run. for example, our campaign against vaccine mm. vaccine passports. mm mm. absolutely. silk we've got to move on the downing street

source. thank you so much. and thank you for all your work in this. i think you do remarkable work. big brother watch and just trying us safe in the trying to keep us safe in the future. all of us. downing street source the unit had street source said the unit had scaled significantly scaled their work significantly since the end of the lockdowns , since the end of the lockdowns, so write them direct. big brother watch. still key carlo the now the prime minister has announced ambitious credible announced ambitious and credible measures to tackle the nhs crisis , including a £1 billion crisis, including a £1 billion emergency care plan today. rishi sunak has pledged 800 new ambulances, 5000 more hospital beds , as well as expanding beds, as well as expanding urgent care to people's homes. more beds , more ambulances, more more beds, more ambulances, more staff better social care. and if we deliver on it, if we can deliver on it, then i think we will see. in fact, i know we will see. in fact, i know we will see. in fact, i know we will see largest and fastest ever improvement in emergency waiting times in the nhs as history . that is the ambition of history. that is the ambition of our plan that we've set out today. our plan that we've set out today . so if you are joining us, today. so if you are joining us, let's speak to just joining us and you missed that speech. let's talk to gb news political

darren mccaffrey. good morning, darren mccaffrey. good morning, darren rishi sunak likes a five point plan. disney another five points in this speech. this morning. what were the headlines for you you ? you're really for you you? you're really fascinating it given the state that the nhs is in, given the fact actually that what midway through this winter crisis the prime minister has come up with a plan, though he is what, just 100 days into the job to try and deal with many the difficult really difficult months the national health services facing. but this is kind of part of a much more medium longer term plan to try and improve things like ambulance waiting times and indeed the backlog that we see indeed the backlog that we see in hospitals. one of the big problems, beth, is that you've got number people who got a number of people who frankly be in frankly shouldn't be in hospital anymore, they are able or anymore, that they are able or should be able be discharged. should be able to be discharged. but there is no one or no where for go. so the for them to go. so the government prime government today, prime minister, announcing, as you say, 5000 new beds which say, those 5000 new beds which are going to capacity in are going to boost capacity in the nhs by about 5, but also increase number of ambulances

available by 10, around 800 new vehicles. part of that available by 10, around 800 new vehicles. part of tha t £1 vehicles. part of that £1 billion plan. now the big problem is who's going to staff all these, piers, because we know that one in ten jobs in the nhs remain vacant. the government is unable to fill them. the kings cross today saying they think this issue is hard to see how it's actually going to have a major impact on the problems facing. the national health service though the prime minister insisted that this is part of plan to this is part of wider plan to bnng this is part of wider plan to bring down waiting times and he was also unsurprisingly asked about nurses pay and pay across the board when it comes to paramedics at two again insisting that the is open to a pay insisting that the is open to a pay settlement with those trade unions . but pay settlement with those trade unions. but in the end pay settlement with those trade unions . but in the end they unions. but in the end they couldn't give a way above inflation. inflation busting pay rise, if you like, because that would only make things worse . would only make things worse. interesting, though, the politics today from all the journalists was focussed on nadhim zahawi the chairman of the conservative party was the conservative party who was sacked yesterday the prime sacked yesterday by the prime minister, the pm repeatedly clear he he acted

clear that he he acted decisively when he got that report that nadhim zahawi had broken the ministerial code though in the end many would suggest he didn't necessarily act that decisively, that it took actually quite a long time took actually quite a long time to set up that probe. this was a prime minister who stood in the house of commons at prime minister's question time only a couple ago, saying that couple of weeks ago, saying that all being all all the answers are being all the are he'd been the questions are he'd been answered that there answered in this case that there was to see here was nothing else to see here with clearly it wasn't the with that clearly it wasn't the case. and that is why opposition employees saying the employees today are saying the prime act quickly enough. prime didn't act quickly enough. and the and also suggesting that the reason he should be reason why he should not just be kicked of the cabinet he kicked out of the cabinet is he has been, out of the has been, but also out of the conservative party to. okay. thank you, daryn . our viewers thank you, daryn. our viewers have been getting in touch, actually about rishi sunak speech morning, carrying on speech this morning, carrying on from that this this tweeter says note the use of the words if we can deliver. think they've, can deliver. i think they've, proved 13 years that proved over 13 years that delivery a problem for these delivery is a problem for these tories. says unless you tories. kevin says unless you have better nhs management, tories. kevin says unless you have better nhs management , this have better nhs management, this money will be wasted. mark says the more i see sunak, the less

optimistic i find myself. he comes across as school prefect comes across as a school prefect talking his classmates just talking to his classmates just just loads . if you're getting in just loads. if you're getting in touch on those lines, it's really hard . here we go. i found really hard. here we go. i found a positive one, paddy. well done, paddy. you're a man on your own. i thought came your own. i thought he came across positive across as positive and personable job is to personable part of his job is to try lift morale if he comes try to lift morale if he comes on stage like the grim reaper, you fined for it. it's you won't be fined for it. it's the major nhs announcement. give him a chance. you, paddy. him a chance. thank you, paddy. trying provide little trying to provide a little balance quite balance, but it is quite difficult on that particular topic guests are still topic right. my guests are still here me. lord with here with me. lord dealt with and political commentator emma burnell just burnell laura. let me just backtrack might you the backtrack. i might with you the interview that i just did that was silky carla because you are of course one of these journalists that is as being watched by the government. were you surprised to see name on that list? no not at all. because of my book accused, the government of weaponizing fear dunng government of weaponizing fear during the pandemic. i think the problem is that, you know , once problem is that, you know, once these units were set up and once a government describes itself as

being on a war time fitting a virus, the inevitable result is that the propaganda machine, the surveillance apparatus turned upon people. so whereas once units like the 77 or the counter disinformation unit would have been looking at enemy states or terrorists . when you describe terrorists. when you describe people as biohazards, when you say the threat is a virus that we carry in our bodies, we become the enemy , and that's become the enemy, and that's what happened. the problem is, of course, the units aren't dismantled . they're still there. dismantled. they're still there. we don't know what they're doing. so kaja kallas doing. and as so kaja kallas says, need to taken says, they really need to taken down government's first down when the government's first name social media name terms with social media companies and is able to tell them to take down posts, content , videos, flag articles is destined for motion when the content is not just lawful but truthful . so we have a real truthful. so we have a real problem . and because it is problem. and because it is a censorship level, isn't it it is about a measure. it is about reducing open, honest debate, which leads to informed consent about, in this case, medical

choices, perhaps just just justice quotations and, the careers of the people that monitor as well, because this is a slur. this a slur upon the people in the report who were targeted, whose social media profiles and potentially income and businesses were affected . and businesses were affected. mean in my own case, when my book launched it was a very strange situation . it strange situation. it disappeared from amazon for the first four days and there was no satisfaction answer from amazon as both the book title as to why both the book title and my name were totally findable, and the author page. my author page was taken . who my author page was taken. who knows? who knows ? perhaps it was knows? who knows? perhaps it was a weird algorithmic glitch, but a weird algorithmic glitch, but a strange coincidence. absolutely amazon out here to defend themselves , of course, defend themselves, of course, against that. that particular. but it me are you saying i mean anything an allegation. yeah right . we're not going to talk right. we're not going to talk about prince andrew, right? okay ever what does he have of going back to court now to clear his over the virginia roberts alec

gration? he's settled out of court of course, and now apparently his hopes of coming back are wishful thinking , back are wishful thinking, according to some commentators . according to some commentators. what do you reckon? so there seem be two stories here. one, that he's thinking of going back and challenging the court that he's already accepted, which bonkers. and secondly , that he bonkers. and secondly, that he wants to return to public life , wants to return to public life, which frankly is almost as bonkers . a if he wants the bonkers. a if he wants the latter , the former let it give latter, the former let it give it a few years . chill out. you it a few years. chill out. you know you're a rich man. you've got no need to there is no right to being a having a public. got no need to there is no right to being a having a public . you to being a having a public. you don't have an automatic right to be famous if he wants to do things there are plenty of ways that he could. you know, if he wants to do things for charity, governance , actually get your governance, actually get your hands dirty and do something in that it doesn't have to be that way. it doesn't have to be walking around and shaking

shaking in front shaking people's hands in front of some cameras because this is the point that he wants to return to the front line of royal public life , apparently. royal public life, apparently. and according to a an inside source in the mail today , the source in the mail today, the king respects his brother's right to try and clear his name. but any hopes will pave the way back to official duties are way off the mark. well in terms of clearing his name he he has paid this settlement he has accepted that that in the court of public opinion least, he's paid the settlement he said, go hands up. i'm going to you the money. make it go away that everybody knows what that means in the court of pubuc what that means in the court of public opinion whatever the legal official legalities of it we what that means i think he's just got to accept that his life has changed and he now needs to learn how to build the new life that he has. just playing devil's advocate again, just for a moment, is law dealt with? if it if it is true that he had to

make go away because of the queen's jubilee, etc. was coming up. so, you know , just just make up. so, you know, just just make that lady go away and give us several million quid . does he several million quid. does he have a right then to try and clear his name? i think a really bizarre decision. he's he's a fully grown man. he's an adult, a prince and ex—serviceman . he a prince and ex—serviceman. he paid a huge settlement and, of course , he did it done . and that course, he did it done. and that was his tactic at the time to then risk going back to court for four more sordid details to come out. doesn't make this go away. it make it go on longer. now what's to buy it? i mean was that ridiculous picture it he couldn't possibly have looked at ladies toes in a bath because the bath was too small. sorry, anyone is frolicked in the bath and it says a lot. you can do it in a of a bath. you know, in a space of a bath. you know, in a space of a bath. you know, in that situation it was not hard to court safe evidence at all. picture two people in all. picture of two people in a ball face that on this ball face that come on this breakfast i david starkey breakfast all i david starkey saying love island saying took about love island last saying his positive

last week saying his positive bit of. and now i've had confessing in a bath. confessing the antics in a bath. lord, is this is tell all lord, this is this is a tell all breakfast hypothetical hypothetical bath imagining. yes, all going. yes, that's all that's going. yeah it is. it is all very flimsy isn't it. it's all very, very and unless he has very flaky. and unless he has some hard what is some sort of hard proof, what is this to look? he's not this going to look? he's not going virginia roberts . going to virginia roberts. giuffre, what about know, giuffre, what about you know, she's to turn around she's never going to turn around and actually, you're and go, actually, yeah, you're right. all up. she's right. i made it all up. she's never to have never going to have the absolution seeking. absolution that he's seeking. i mean, it reeks of mean, it just reeks of entitlement, arrogance and narcissism. like emma says, if he to return to life, it he wants to return to life, it should two three. doing good should be two three. doing good works demonstrate works to demonstrate his moral character to character rather than try to clear in order to be clear his name in order to be famous member the royal famous member of the royal family. show us your family. don't tell. show us your character. tell us how character. don't tell us how goodit character. don't tell us how good it is right, chad gp t i don't know whether you're familiar with chats. t this is an app which enables anybody , an app which enables anybody, but primarily at the moment it seems school children to come up with pieces of copy. emma which otherwise would have taken hours of toil from the likes of you and i to come up with . is it as

and i to come up with. is it as good as they make it? sounds it does sound like it is very good . so i am as someone who writes in various formats for living, it's bloomin terrifying to me and i wonder how much of a fad it's going to be, how much it will go beyond, where it is now and i also think there is slight moral panic every time something new comes along, we panic about the new thing. forget the all the new thing. forget the all the old ways we used to cheat the old ways we used to cheat the system. yeah i mean, i often tell story of when i did my gcses, my boyfriend at the time did taste at the same time he he only got his coursework gcses and because he was a artist funnily enough, it wasn't him who wrote most of that code through until you sit there criticising the service. if i know this 16 year old me has a lot to be ashamed for. laura you you know, you've also written several books and hundreds of

articles . will this sort of ever articles. will this sort of ever replace us? well, it could do. i mean, it's really good. be honest. i've tried it . i've got honest. i've tried it. i've got a new book coming out this year. my co—author, i decided to put one of our chapter ideas through chat up to see what happened for really good chuckles. no, i'll be it wasn't as good as be honest, it wasn't as good as ours i think there's ours because i think there's still a human engine still a human creativity engine shooting out of the box, thinking that it can't replace. and you've got to remember that with that. it's not neutral. this not politically and this is not politically and ideologically neutral. it's programmed people who have programmed by people who have their biases . programmed by people who have their biases. so it's no their own biases. so it's no replacement for people . it's replacement for people. it's a replacement for people. it's a replacement for people. it's a replacement for certain type of people. and lacks it lacks people. and it lacks it lacks ultimate ingenuity. but it is very good. it's going to change the way schools work, kids are going to to start writing going to have to start writing the essays lessons and doing non replicable let's you know, replicable work. let's you know, certain types of research or reading out lessons. well, reading out of lessons. well, going have to swap it round going to have to swap it round you're because that's why you're right because that's why this papers today this is in the papers today saying there's headmaster saying that there's a headmaster of influential big private of an influential big private school london basically who

school in london basically who said that this is going to change the way children are assessed at school because there is no longer the point of sending them home to write essays ever . and i sending them home to write essays ever. and i think his department recently tested chat . gpt teachers gave an eight star to the essay without knowing it was written by by the robots . maybe when it comes to robots. maybe when it comes to changing our education system that do need that does need to be some changes because the idea of it being a memory test now the kids get feels a little outdated completely outdated it and mean long argued that and i mean i've long argued that we to completely rethink we need to completely rethink how we do education and what it's for i think to we all too often we think of the ways of education and assessing education and assessing education as just the regurgitation of a list of facts rather than under standing of what those facts mean in contact based and how we can interpret those.i based and how we can interpret those. i think we teach kids to know things rather than to understand things. and i don't know how you test that. i'm not

an educational expert, but i do think that there's so much more to education about learning how to education about learning how to think rather than what to know . right, ladies, we've lost. know. right, ladies, we've lost. we've our time for today. we're not time for adults with emma burnell. thank you so much. it's flown by this morning. coming up next is gb news live with mark longhurst? it is three years tomorrow since the uk, the eu, there's to plenty to there's going to be plenty to discuss. then i'm bev turner see tomorrow morning at ten. hello it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. a dry day for most of us with some sunshine, the best of which will be in the east. cloudy skies, generally in the west, of a frontal the west, ahead of a frontal system will push in for system that will push in for later in the day . but this later in the day. but this front, this cold that's crossing the channel now, that's brought some rain earlier on, it is now clearing to brighter. also a fresher feel for the north, in particular with cold north—west the airflow that's easing through the rest of the day and taking its showers away with it. but a further showers are likely

affect parts of western scotland and northern ireland at times mostly light and for many it's a dry day. sunny in the east, nine or ten celsius, cloudy skies west, eight or nine celsius. so temperatures not far from average into the evening, though it turns increasingly wet across western scotland. that rain pushing its way eastwards and into northern ireland by midnight, arriving into england dunng midnight, arriving into england during the early hours , some during the early hours, some heavy bursts of rain associated with this system as it's moved south eastwards , followed by south eastwards, followed by blustery showers into the north, an early frost possible in the southeast before things turn cloudy and for most it's a frost free starts tuesday. lots of cloud about england and wales. some outbreaks of rain pushing the south during the morning . the south during the morning. the rain tending to peter out . the rain tending to peter out. and it does clear by lunchtime with brighter skies arriving. but it's a windy day, especially for the with gales. rain exposed northwestern coasts and hills and a lot of showers coming in as well for scotland northern

ireland and of north—west england. those showers falling as snow over the hills further south. it's largely dry after that early cloud and spotty rain. it's looking like a brighter with some sunshine . but brighter with some sunshine. but for all of sits breezy day i think. and as we end tuesday , think. and as we end tuesday, there'll be further showers coming in to the north largely dry further south. and we do it all again on thursday and friday most of the unsettled weather affecting, northern areas .

as 12 noon a very good afternoon . you're with gb news live with me, mark longhurst and coming up for you this are sunak tries to resuscitate his premiership with new announcement on boosting nhs emergency care but that