what it was supposed to be. the big day for the nhs for our prime minister, rishi sunak. but of course everything's been dominated today by nadhim zahawi . the pm says he did decide . . the pm says he did decide. sibley will debate tonight . has sibley will debate tonight. has he actually got a. we show an exclusive interview with the boss of cuadrilla he may well sue the government over its u—turn on fracking policy in the nonh u—turn on fracking policy in the north of england. and joining me on talking points the man behind the english classic rise of the foot soldier andrew loveday joins me on talking points. but before all of that let's get the news with polly middlehurst . news with polly middlehurst. nigel, thank you. and good evening to you. our top story on gb news tonight, firefighters and control room staff have voted for their first nationwide strike over pay in 20 years. the

fire brigades union said its members of experienced a 12% drop in real terms, earnings since 2010. last november , since 2010. last november, members rejected a pay rise of 5% and teachers have today vowed to go on strike. in england and wales on wednesday after last minute talks between the unions and the government failed . it's and the government failed. it's expected to be the biggest day of industrial action in decades, with up to half a million public service workers, including train drivers and civil servants, also taking action . union leaders say taking action. union leaders say there's no offer from the education sector on trying to bndge education sector on trying to bridge the gap between them and the government and that the government has squandered an opportunity to avoid strike action . but gillian keegan says action. but gillian keegan says it was a constructive meeting . it was a constructive meeting. we've been quite engaged over a long period of time and clearly it's difficult because we want to halve inflation and they want to halve inflation and they want to have rises that will fuel inflation. but we all have in

constructive discussions about pay, constructive discussions about pay, about workload , about how pay, about workload, about how to make sure that we can retain and recruit teachers . meanwhile, and recruit teachers. meanwhile, the health secretary has announced £1 billion in extra funding to boost nhs frontline capability. steve barclay says the government will work to response times back to prepare pandemic levels. the plan also includes 5000 more hospital beds, 800 new ambulances and expanding urgent care to take people into their homes for medical attention . mr. barclay medical attention. mr. barclay also says the government will pubush also says the government will publish the number of 12 hour wait lists. labour says the plan plans aren't enough though to tackle the problems in the nhs . tackle the problems in the nhs. now the prime minister has today been defending his handling of the nadhim zahawi tax row , the nadhim zahawi tax row, saying he acted decisive . rishi saying he acted decisive. rishi sunak has been under to reveal what he knew about zahawi tax

affairs. the prime minister, though , says he did sack the though, says he did sack the conservative party chairman yesterday. immediate after the ethics inquiry found there had been a serious breach of the ministerial code . well, these ministerial code. well, these questions started coming to light about nadhim zahawi . i light about nadhim zahawi. i asked the independent adviser to get to the bottom of it to and provide me with the facts. i was able to make a very quick decision and it wasn't no longer appropriate nadhim zahawi to appropriate for nadhim zahawi to continue and continue in government. and that's he's no longer there. and that's he's no longer there. and that's what i've done. it relates to things that happened. well prime well before i was prime minister. it's i'm fortunate. i can't change happened can't change what happened in the international is the past and an international is the past and an international is the us secretary of state has called for an easing of tensions whilst he was on a visit to jerusalem following a spike of violence in the region. on friday, israeli forces killed ten palestinians, most of whom say were gunmen. that's after a palestinian man carried out a gun attack in east jerusalem , gun attack in east jerusalem, killing seven. anthony blinken says it's everyone's

responsibility to calm tensions rather than inflame them . rather than inflame them. there's the latest news stories on gb news. you are up to date on gb news. you are up to date on tv, online and dab, plus radio. back so far. at the good evening. i sat here last monday and said to you there was no doubt in my mind that zahawi would go and that the longer it went on, the weaker sunak would look a little wednesday. i sat here and said , wednesday. i sat here and said, keir starmer ran rings around the prime minister at prime minister's questions it was absolutely of us that soon i could not been told the full truth , and yet we have to wait. truth, and yet we have to wait. and suddenly it's all a rush job in the end. well, the head of ethics produces a report. i at 9 am. on a sunday mornings , am. on a sunday mornings, zahawi is sacked . well, rishi zahawi is sacked. well, rishi sunak was in the north of

england today. i'll tell you why in a moment. but here was how sunak described the sacking . sunak described the sacking. relates to things that happened well before i was prime minister. so unfortunate i can't change what happened in the past. what you can hold me accountable for is that. what did about know did you do about it.7 you know what as soon as i knew what i did.7 as soon as i knew about situation, what i did? as soon as i knew about situation, it was about the situation, it was appoint independent, appoint somebody independent, looked at it, got the advice, and acted pretty decisively and then acted pretty decisively to move because that's what to move on because that's what he acted pretty decisively. gosh i wouldn't like to see him if he acted pretty and decisively . acted pretty and decisively. look, if you're the boss of a big organisation, you suspect that a very senior figure has done wrong and you've had months and months of speculation about what that may be. you don't pull it off to somebody else. you get a grip yourself as the boss and you make a decision and sunak simply didn't do that. all of the calls spoilt his big day up in the north—east of england, where he announces there'll be 800 new ambulances. 5000 new

hospital beds . and a new idea. hospital beds. and a new idea. well you can be in hospital. at home. now, whether any of this actually works to reduce waiting lists, i have no idea. i'm certain of one thing it will all cost. yet more money and certainly getting a grip on the nhs masses . certainly getting a grip on the nhs masses. but polling released this afternoon by the conservativehome website and that's there for conservative party members and activists, shows his amongst his own party's fallen pretty sharply over the course of the last month. so has rishi got a grip? let me know what you think. farage gb news .uk. let me know what you think. farage gb news .uk . and i have farage gb news .uk. and i have to tell you , he might be to tell you, he might be intellectually very clever and perfectly polite and pleasant and all the rest of it, but i see the man very much as a follower and not as a leader . see the man very much as a follower and not as a leader. i don't believe he's got a grip . i don't believe he's got a grip. i think they're in far bigger trouble than they even realise themselves. well joining me, dan

hodges , columnist on the mail on hodges, columnist on the mail on sunday, chequers, last week, a big jolly get together a bizarre he was there. not entirely sure how jolly it was, but with the same effort. but more interesting, the isaac levido , interesting, the isaac levido, the guru, you know, trained by lynton crosby. we've told is briefing them this could be like 1992 all over again where john major wasn't given a chance against neil kinnock and then suddenly it all turned around and all that parallels with 1992, in your opinion ? well, if 1992, in your opinion? well, if there are, i can't see them at there are, i can't see them at the moment. i mean, i think i mean, you could that both. i mean, you could that both. i mean , the one parallel is rishi mean, the one parallel is rishi sunak's work has a touch of john major bad . but i'm not entirely major bad. but i'm not entirely sure that that's a positive. i mean, i think the most fascinating thing, though, in terms of the briefing in relation to the sort of the isaac levido presentation was it was being spun as isaac . the

was being spun as isaac. the video says, we're still in the game. we've got a 20% chance of winning the next election. you can invert that though. so if you if you're election guru starts off the presentation by saying we've got an 80% chance of losing the next election and that's not really you know, there's a glass half full, the glass half empty. i mean, you said you thought they were in, you know, much trouble than they think . i you know, much trouble than they think. i think most of them know precisely how trouble. and i mean, i think , you know, they're mean, i think, you know, they're going to keep going. they're going to keep going. they're going to keep plodding along. they're going play along. but they're going to play along. but i think if speak to cabinet ministers , ministers and mps , ministers, ministers and mps, there is just a feeling now that i'm start to detect that, you know, they're not quite given out, but they are start dust off the cvs and pick the recruitment of those who have bolted the door already bulging. we're to see that. we're going to see that accelerate. i think as we

move, we move through the year, more scandals come, a little more scandals come, a little more potential scandals come. we've got dominic raab still under investigation and. hey, bofis under investigation and. hey, boris johnson also still facing, you know, what could , be an you know, what could, be an accusation from that committee that he lied to parliament. and yet, dan, it seemed over the weekend that there were cheerleaders out there again saying, oh, well, is gone saying, oh, well, zahawi is gone so boris johnson must become party chairman. i can't see see doing that, can you . i can't see doing that, can you. i can't see sunak doing that . i'm not sunak doing that. i'm not entirely sure i can see boris doing it. if boris was offered it, i think , you know, i think it, i think, you know, i think there is a job in government. bofis there is a job in government. boris has got his eye on, but i don't think it's put, you know , don't think it's put, you know, boris's is at the moment is sort of prioritising . you know, he's of prioritising. you know, he's speaking engagements his lucrative speaking engagements , lucrative speaking engagements, payments. obviously he's sort of informal diplomacy with ukraine can't really see him, you know time on that to start going

around the country trying to work out how you know he's you know you get another the but also very divisive he's really. yeah i mean look i mean it's going to be difficult. i mean, this is one of the problems rishi sunak has has strategically up until the local election ends. you know, i've already been doing it this year myself, colleagues are we're myself, my colleagues are we're all to be writing about all going to be writing about what's boris doing is he is going to make it make his play. what are his allies ? what are what are his allies? what are they saying? are they plotting ? they saying? are they plotting? to which the answer is yes , they to which the answer is yes, they are plotting. and yes, they will make that make their play. and for rishi sunak, it's very very difficult to get on front foot when you've got this huge political beast sitting there who's who's who's across what he's trying to do now , your he's trying to do now, your column yesterday a fairly unique take on what's happening in the interaction between the government and the civil service . yeah, i mean, the civil service are now getting ready to their revenge on the government

part of it is it's going be in their view payback for what they see as dom cummings attack on the civil service. his civil service reforms he's i'm going to make hard rain falls on the civil service he and his allies deny ever making but it was reporter it and the civil service see that as accurately reflecting what he was what he was trying to do. so an element of that . there's also an element of that. there's also an element that obviously , you know, we that obviously, you know, we think of this government having beenin think of this government having been in for, you know, 13 years and that incredibly an incredibly time. that's nothing incredibly time. that's nothing in service years. i mean, civil are like donkeys or cat years, whatever and you know, a lot of the people of senior civil servants now were obviously still relatively senior civil servants under under the brown administrations. so servants under under the brown administrations . so there were administrations. so there were connections there . and, you connections there. and, you know, the transition to labour holds no space for them. and they also hate brexit. well, obviously, obviously culturally

there is a there is a there was an intense , intense dislike of an intense, intense dislike of brexit. but the crucial thing they've calculated we're going to have a change of government in the next month in the in a but by next year and they're preparing for that. i think they are now is fascinating. dan is we're talking about sunak zahawi we're talking about sunak zahawi we haven't talked much about the health ideas, but we kind of keep hearing that same stuff every year anyway. but all wednesday, the 1st of february, 2023, there will be strikes rail strikes , bus strikes, teaching strikes, bus strikes, teaching strikes, bus strikes, teaching strikes, university lecturer strikes, university lecturer strikes, civil service strikes. and it's been announced today that at some point the firefighters for the first time in 20 years will come on strike. we have not seen this number of people striking since 1978. how much of a problem is that for the government what is a massive problem? it would be a problem anyway. obviously, an industrial action on this scale, but it's a

problem for a number of reasons. firstly because firstly, because . at the turn of the year was talking very tough. he was saying he was going to i think, you know, it's operational. they literally briefed some literally briefed us some newspapers tough rishi newspapers operation tough rishi soon was going to it was soon that was going to it was going sort this out minimum service guarantees were service guarantees they were going problem going to solve the problem obviously can obviously yes we can we can see they was they the government was calculating that the public support would would move away from the unions. that's support would would move away from the unions . that's that's from the unions. that's that's been the case real. it might be in terms the rail workers stood up in sympathy but obviously but you know you're not going to win a fight with with the with the nurses on. i'm on this sort of stuff. and the reality is rishi sunakis stuff. and the reality is rishi sunak is pitching himself as i'm the grown up, i'm the great project manager. i'm the guy who's going to make all the problems going away go away. and as we can see on industrial front, the problems aren't going away. the chaos is getting worse. and politically he just can't afford that. never mind

the fact the country can't afford it. politically, he can't afford it. politically, he can't afford and he's going to afford that. and he's going to have to at some point in very near future by on the bullet, he's going to have to certainly settle with the nurses and the other the other health workers sort of ambulance drivers, etc, going to have to sell with firefighters and possibly try and say split some of those union arms off from , you know, union arms off from, you know, possibly the rail workers, whether it there is a degree of less or less public support, but he's not going to be able to be all the way to nurses and he's going to recognise either going have to recognise either way significant way it'll be a significant backing position. backing down from his position. yeah, he has really got a grip. we hasn't. obviously we know he hasn't. now obviously you forget the you know, let's not forget the position he inherited, you know, the aoc inherited , but no. and the aoc inherited, but no. and it's as i said, his brand is i'm the guy he get a grip on to manage things. i'm not flashy , manage things. i'm not flashy, but in my understated way i'm going to make the case i'm going to be competent i'm going to make the chaos go away. yeah but

he that i'll just thank he hasn't that i'll just thank you and certainly over zahawi i think been far from think he's been far from competent in a moment, we're going to head to the north of england. we're going to have a look a couple of companies look at a couple of companies who were encouraged to stop natural exploration. natural gas exploration. i didn't the government u—turn didn't see the government u—turn . they legal action against . they take legal action against the government. all of that in a couple of minutes .

so has rishi got a grip. some of your responses coming in twitter user says struggling very hard to keep his grip on that big chair he's trying to sit in. he even get a grip on his own civil servants stewart says as , much servants stewart says as, much grip as a risk gives and should

say it's a showdown , says rishi say it's a showdown, says rishi might have woken up about it. but why it take so long for him to get sacked? look honestly, he's mishan this zahawi situation . the first big situation. the first big questions about this man were being asked in june of last year and if hmrc may come and speak to i think you are actually under investigation action and to deny that to do it in the commons to on the media. you know we all knew this over a week ago. no he's acted in a very weak manner. now there are a mass a plethora of organisations arguing for that zero. they have support from virtually all uk political parties, from many media organisations. parties, from many media organisations . there are one parties, from many media organisations. there are one or two who are more sceptic about the agenda. one of them is karl, 26, headed up by lois parry, and she's just been up to the north of england, where she

interviewed francis egan , the interviewed francis egan, the ceo of cuadrilla the company that goes out and explores for natural gas. here's a short clip of that interview i read last year. of that interview i read last year . you had been talks with year. you had been talks with the other company in your space, ineos, about potential delay mounting a legal based on the disrupt session that you guys had had to the government that something that you're still considering did you lose money because of that decision so you got to challenge government got to challenge the government that. of the one that. oh well i some of the one part of that question and unfortunately can't answer that but but we have invested hundreds of millions of pounds following government policy. we have followed all the rules. we've complied with all the regulations . so right at regulations. so you're right at the moment, an email. regulations. so you're right at the moment, an email . so yes. the moment, an email. so yes. have done the same. yeah about 1 billion more checks the have put a lot of money into this in faith. yeah i won't talk about the legalities but i will say we

have been treated appallingly . have been treated appallingly. we have been treated poorly. so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that you you know, you might want we would like to do so. we know that be enough. no, probably not. i mean, we weren't even allowed we weren't even contact us between the first and second part of testing. you know, we nobody knew, certainly in our company or i'm sure in the rest of the industry that frankly, in response to a parliamentary question , the prime minister question, the prime minister banned fracking again. i mean, what what way is that to treat people who invested hundreds of millions of pounds and the pursuing policy ? well, that was pursuing policy? well, that was part that was part of a much longer interview which you can find on the 26 youtube channel. lois parry joins me now . francis lois parry joins me now. francis egan seems pretty angry. yeah he said that the government had had no with him in between liz truss lifting the moratorium and then it being taken off sorry put

back into place six weeks later and in fact there was no announcement proper announcement. it was just in response to a question in parliament that suddenly it was put back into place , hundreds put back into place, hundreds and hundreds of millions pounds in investment. you can't run in investment. and you can't run a country like that. you can't run energy like that. run an energy system like that. he certainly can't run a company like that. so, yeah, was he was . but you know what he's like . . but you know what he's like. he was also at bay and laughing . well, but of course, jim ratcliffe , you know, i mean, who ratcliffe, you know, i mean, who is who is ? i think richest is who is? i think the richest briton alive today running ineos he's very much in the same position , too. yeah, well, let's position, too. yeah, well, let's see what happens. he didn't definitely say they'd launch allegiant in order talking. no, no, it did . i know. so if you no, it did. i know. so if you can't talk about something political reasons and there's a legal reason for doing so. but i spent a lot of time in the north of england talking to all different types of people. scott mentioned them, pay the back pool pay also lee anderson. pool and pay also lee anderson. that's another rollicking interview will be available over the next couple of weeks on the

youtube channel. quite youtube channel. he said quite a lot exciting things in lot of exciting things and in terms i mean, terms of joe public, i mean, we've we've had at 20 years we've had we've had at 20 years of being told this is the biggest challenge that we face and none of us want to be irresponsible about big challenges the world faces . but challenges the world faces. but all the public are becoming more sceptical about the net agenda. oh absolutely , i mean it was oh absolutely, i mean it was some people just said i think it's a load of nonsense. all the people just said, look, whether it's real or not, we don't care . we just want the government to think about us rather than ideology. i the people always think the government out of touch, at the moment it's , touch, but at the moment it's, extraordinary. we have extraordinary. and do we have you know, you've got those stories . you've been on the stories. you've been on the streets north of england streets of the north of england to. talking yeah, we have this great. do have polling great. do we have any polling data available? do. so data available? yeah we do. so the before last when the year before last the when cop26 happened , it was 58% of cop26 happened, it was 58% of those who expressed the opinion in the car. 26 yougov poll said that they wanted a referendum on net zero. don't normally net zero. you don't normally want referendum unless . you

want a referendum unless. you are going against the status quo. did it a few months quo. but we did it a few months ago up to 62% of those ago, has gone up to 62% of those expressing an opinion. that's high. people are extremely sceptical. i talked to francis egan about that poll . obviously egan about that poll. obviously they would have benefited very , they would have benefited very, very much from the fracking and said that the people would have either had free energy or low cost or at the very least cost energy or at the very least they would have been support it. and the energy and of course the energy costs would down for all of us. would have down for all of us. the argument about there being a set me was set price for he told me was absolute nonsense . but one of absolute nonsense. but one of the that spoke to at a the people that i spoke to at a food that went to that food kitchen that i went to that provides people not provides meals for people not just home people, people who just home people, but people who have choice they've have made the choice they've hated so they've hated their homes. so they've eaten there, know , there was eaten there, you know, there was a girl two weeks ago, a 19 year old girl had a baby. a girl two weeks ago, a 19 year old girl had a baby . the old girl had a baby. the electric motor was about to run out as out. she went and worked as a street prostitute . yeah, i'm street prostitute. yeah, i'm in the metres . so much to the electric metres. so much to this, lois. yes thank you very much . well, interesting. much indeed. well, interesting. they were really potentially fighting words there that we saw from francis egan and of course,

you know, we can't speak for which on this, but which ratcliffe is on this, but it is true, you can't actually have a coherent energy policy without . long term thinking and without. long term thinking and planning and gosh lawrie label enviro mental policy researcher we are all over the place on energy week. so i the point that he was making in that interview about how businesses are frustrated how is changing policy sometimes and on i think that's bit of a fair point to be honest you need to policy certainty to big investment decisions particularly around energy and the track record of the in government is not very reliable . it comes to that reliable. it comes to that certainty though i could never work out whether we are doing nuclear energy, whether we're not. it's all the place . i think not. it's all the place. i think one of the points that perhaps is expressed by those that lois is expressed by those that lois is talking about now, look, if you ask people, would like to have a say. a lot of people would say we'd like to have a say. i get that there has been a

growing scepticism about the cost of net zero policies. but isn't the absolute truth of it? laurie that that like it or we will using fossil fuels in some way for many decades to come ? way for many decades to come? yeah, and that's the concept of net zero as the net bits which admits that yeah, there will probably be some type of fossil fuel use, but it will become sought out by certain technologies or planting more trees. the things that suck carbon down. one of the issues here though wasn't touched on in that interview was that we're not necessarily talking about opinion polls or whatever when it comes to fracking . we're it comes to fracking. we're talking about markets and can't really but the fact that the uk has a liberal gas market and if people got frack gas out of the ground, which there are so many complexities about why very hard they sell it to the highest they will sell it to the highest bidder. control is not interested in british energy security necessarily interested in money from gas in making money from gas of course they a private course they are a private company any of to it.

company like any of to it. i fully understand that. however you you have an you know if you have an initiative with government there are ways we could produce better pricing . after all, you know pricing. after all, you know american consumers do not buy gas at world market prices. so i think there may be ways around this. but here's the real this. but but here's the real nub for me . there are nub of it for me. there are many, many, many on the global warming side of the argument on the net zero side of the argument , there are stop argument, there are just stop oil protest , extinction oil protest, extinction rebellion and that seems to be this sort of we must not have any more fresh investment in oil, gas or , coal exploration as oil, gas or, coal exploration as if we're happy to import the stuff if we're going to need to use fossil fuels isn't the point we to produce it ourselves? no because we should be investing the things that secure british energy supply and things like fracked gas, where you back to your point about america, we are not america. the ability for america to frack vast amounts of gas , which was a huge moment in gas, which was a huge moment in its like a world historic moment

that america managed to get this gas supply and it altered the global energy situation. america suddenly became huge britain suddenly became a huge britain has a different geology to the us is not the size of the us, but we spent decades investing in it. but we still have potentially very big gas reserves. we still have huge coal reserves there. we don't use vast amounts of it. we still needitin use vast amounts of it. we still need it in steel and other things and we're still using oil i question is , as i repeat the question is, as most experts think we're going to using fossil fuels for three, four or five decades to come . four or five decades to come. should we not produce those fossil here in the united kingdom ? maybe some of them. but kingdom? maybe some of them. but that's a small residual. kingdom? maybe some of them. but that's a small residual . wait, that's a small residual. wait, wait till you hear. we're talking about fracking in cuadrilla and, you know, spending huge amounts of money on trying to get frack gas out of the uk. that's not a credible strategy . the idea that the uk strategy. the idea that the uk well , let's look at the strategy. the idea that the uk well, let's look at the uk's energy mix. the moment it has a huge advantage in offshore wind and things right. it could have had advantage in the had a huge advantage in the

batteries that we're going to need electric vehicles. need to power electric vehicles. but was by the but that was up by the government. so it was all well, good, infamous it's good, but it's infamous and it's jolly expensive. will jolly expensive. but trees will help that. just just help us with that. just just because we are not, you know, halfway through the process of transitioning to coal in victorian times, people weren't sitting being no, it's sitting and being like, no, it's too expensive. we've only found this amount of coal. it requires that process of innovation and investment to transition to a better energy system. well, and we will get that if these companies want to try and extract and then it extract gas and then take it over financial risk, happy over financial risk, i'm happy for them to do it. but laurie, thank coming putting thank you for coming in, putting that in a moment that point of view in a moment on fit for on the british forces fit for purpose because a us general has cast doubt upon it .

the ukraine war in defence very much in the today. here's a clip from boris johnson in a document about that war this is what he had to say he sort of he threatened me at one point and said you know boris i don't want to hurt but with a missile it would only take a minute or something like that, you know , something like that, you know, you jolly , but i think from the you jolly, but i think from the very relaxed tone that he was taking , the sort of air of taking, the sort of air of detached judgement that he seemed to have vision, period, he was just playing along with my attempts to get him to negotiate . well, it's typical negotiate. well, it's typical bofis negotiate. well, it's typical boris johnson, isn't a sort of sad and something like that and it's all a little bit vague . the it's all a little bit vague. the newspapers went with it in a big way today. the kremlin have denied it completely . i've no denied it completely. i've no idea to the truth of it. but idea as to the truth of it. but perhaps what is more relevant is the general warning, the the us general warning, the british army warning us as a country we're no longer regarded

as a top level fighting and indeed conservative member of parliament, tobias ellwood. conservative chair of the defence committee, said he , is defence committee, said he, is very concerned . rishi sunak, in very concerned. rishi sunak, in response . oh, absolutely. we're response. oh, absolutely. we're still a top level fight force. well, the defence editor and veteran commentator on these , veteran commentator on these, con coughlin from the daily telegraph joins me down the line now come if i put you up if i put you up against the wall and ask you do we still have top level fighting forces , in your level fighting forces, in your opinion . we have some elements opinion. we have some elements that are top level, but looking at it in the round nigel the us army general is quite correct and the us army have been saying to me for a or more that we are losing our war fighting capability . the basic capability. the basic requirement of the british army to a top level fighting force is

this to have the ability to deploy and sustain a war fighting division . at the moment fighting division. at the moment we would struggle to get a bngade we would struggle to get a brigade out the door. and if we've got a brigade out the doom we've got a brigade out the door, which is about half the strength of a division, we'd be able to sustain it for a few weeks, but not long term . the weeks, but not long term. the prospect of doing kind of missions we did in iraq and afghanistan recently , they are afghanistan recently, they are just not an impossible. and frankly, i this has been a deliberate policy by successive conservatives . since 2010. conservatives. since 2010. basically, it's the if we don't have an army big enough to deploy it, then we can't deploy it. and so that takes us out of getting involved in controversial . well, yeah. controversial. well, yeah. i mean and that may be a popular point with some people , but a point with some people, but a vote. but there is also question of, you know, vital national defence in time crisis . i mean

of, you know, vital national defence in time crisis. i mean , defence in time crisis. i mean, there are some that say we have actually spent some quite good money modernising the navy and the force, but it's actually the air force, but it's actually the air force, but it's actually the army that's problem. is the army that's the problem. is that view ? the army's that your view view? the army's big problem ? i think the navy is big problem? i think the navy is struggling with the number of combat ships. the struggling with the number of combat ships . the raaf struggling with the number of combat ships. the raaf is struggling with the number of fighter jets and, you know, defending our skies and protecting our shores is a fundamental duty of the government . and i'm always government. and i'm always remind that the old adage that you know, we don't choose wars, wars choose us and very few people the russian invasion of ukraine on the scale that's been conducted and we now find ourselves helping to defend ukraine. and just by sending 14 challenger tanks to ukraine as depleted fighting forces, our army fighting such a level that

you know we could we could barely you you know a couple of squadrons of own tanks if we were required to do so and when you look back, you know, a couple decades ago we had you know, 300 times or so available and now we've got the last time i looked is about between 40 and 50, although my quibble with these figures. but if you wanted to get tanks operational tomorrow if we if we did lay hands on 40 you know i'd be very surprised. wow con coughlin on that depressing note, thank you for joining us here and telling forjoining us here and telling us the truth is depressing, but thank you to . well, there you thank you to. well, there you are . that's what happens in year are. that's what happens in year 13 of a conservative government run our forces down in the most shameful way. couple of quick thoughts. what the farage moment, not only are we spending 6 billion quid year on rooms 6 billion quid a year on rooms for those that cross the english channel for those that cross the english channel, but we've now left the aspen cards, the debit cards that they're given . we now say

that they're given. we now say they're staying in four star hotels and they're now spending 160 million quid a year on that . and a bit of joy, just a little bit of joy. why not this time last year , novak djokovic time last year, novak djokovic was under house arrest . was under house arrest. melbourne and. i went to belgrade of i went to the family room and you can see this clip of me wandering . in the this is of me wandering. in the this is pretty amazing . hello. hi, how pretty amazing. hello. hi, how are you ? i'm in authority. it are you? i'm in authority. it was a very lively , very jolly was a very lively, very jolly and very sociable. but i was there because i wanted to lend my support to djokovic to the djokovic family . well, this year djokovic family. well, this year he wasn't under house arrest. and, of course, he's now won his australian , his 22nd grand slam australian, his 22nd grand slam , and he'll go on to win more this year, i am sure. well

novak, you are a star in a moment talking with andrew loveday. he is a british film producer behind a real cult hit coming up on john watson tonight is it time for prince andrew to fight to clear his name? jeffrey epstein, lawyer dershowitz, who was wrongly by virginia giuffre, makes the case for the disgraced duke's redemption live. plus should the archbishop of canterbury broker a peace deal for prince harry to attend the coronation? top royal experts debate that in the clash , neil debate that in the clash, neil oliver attacks the government dystopian nudge and truth units that are threatening our democracy that's dan wootton tonight 9 pm. to 11 pm. only on .

gb news. it's that time of day. yes it's talking points. i'm joined by engush talking points. i'm joined by english film producer andrew loveday . andrew, welcome to the loveday. andrew, welcome to the program. nice to meet you . and i program. nice to meet you. and i should have meet you now it all starts off on that unique place. can the island that's where are raised and that's where you start painting, decorating and doing a variety of things . yeah. doing a variety of things. yeah. i mean, i started way back in when i was born in dartford and i came to canvey island . my i came to canvey island. my parents moved me out there many, many years ago . i went to school many years ago. i went to school there, i didn't do very well and then this left ended up working. my then this left ended up working. my father and my brother in the building industry and then i borrowed this by magic. i got a job in a film company. how i was painting office in shoreditch. it's actually a city and guy there. and he said to me, you

are wasted doing this , want to are wasted doing this, want to come work for me? and i, oh, what will you do? he said he said, oh, so dreams . so and that said, oh, so dreams. so and that was the story and that was enough that the start of it. and then my work for the company and then my work for the company and then or three years later then two or three years later myself my, my father and my cousin we set up our own company to kind of be films. yeah what earth made you think somebody still very new in the industry that you could succeed with ? that you could succeed with? well, we didn't. we know we muddle through it. well, we didn't. we know we muddle through it . very first muddle through it. very first film, which was a film called light hill, we might it was it was so bad that we had a big premiere in leicester square and we said what we're going to do because everyone sees this film, they're going to hang us. and it's only one of the guys in the office said, look, my mother, princess michael of kent, care her long. she might take the edge of it. so she comes when the flags leicester square film finishes just tumbleweed or

whatever i'm going to sit down with god and she gets up and she goes, brother , bravo. and the goes, brother, bravo. and the investors got up and said, bravo then. and then it went there. and then we went off and sat . we and then we went off and sat. we made another film called spivs can start and nick moran and cash and then went on make a world war two film with the design and it's on the stars card and spencer first film we might have reached for our very first ever job in film. the young girl. you've made a lot of films, 43 movies. yeah, but what real cult hit rise of the foot soldier. and you're now on film number six. i think you said earlier, film number six year as we speak now. and it's a docu drama, isn't it? because well, yeah, mean, it is. i mean, you yeah, i mean, it is. i mean, you know, on these know, it's based on these characters with the real life these guys and tragically getting killed britain and i can 1995 and we after the first two movies we there was such an appetite for the brand and the stories we then took a licence to then start taking these

characters and moving them on another journey within the penod another journey within the period before the deaths of some fact, some fiction , you know, fact, some fiction, you know, we've got insane people and that's we went off and started making the films and they kept bigger and bigger almost successful. more successful. now a cult following. yeah i mean, and that's exactly what it is. yeah, but i, you know, we think of hollywood and the big and the big rah rah , the english british big rah rah, the english british film industry is hitler back . film industry is hitler back. but he's got a very loyal following , isn't it? very low following, isn't it? very low following, isn't it? very low following, especially in the british independent side and a lot of films that you see to get here in england, they're made from american companies or studios. have studios. so to have an independent film , i mean, it's independent film, i mean, it's so make a film £400 so hard to make a film £400 million. yeah. you know , it's million. yeah. you know, it's ridiculously hard because . ridiculously hard because. obviously can't a talent. obviously can't get a talent. you for so got you can't pay for, so you've got to and film that's to try and make a film that's going strike in the public going to strike in the public that they want to see it. sadly, we showed a few shots and by the way, if anyone didn't like the violence, we're sorry , you'd

violence, we're sorry, you'd say, yeah , but, but it's say, yeah, yeah, but, but it's cult following. it's that repeat thing that's really important for . yeah, it's for you. it was. yeah, it's a repeat buyer thing. i think. what it is what my back to why there is such a great foreignness in this genre is you go right back to the crime films but this is what fascinates me what is it what is it about or lots of us we seem to love the whole well under world. we always see gangsters and criminals as being quite attractive people . yeah, it's attractive people. yeah, it's glamour and i mean the modern day villain today he's not glamorous . right? right. well, glamorous. right? right. well, ronnie and reggie . glamorous, of ronnie and reggie. glamorous, of course, about glamorous. i mean , they surrounded by that. there's one thing you can't do. how much money you got, no matter how much notoriety you got much violent got and how much of a violent criminal you are. we can't buy and get is fine . so what and can't get is fine. so what they would do back in the and is criminals with associates so if we one to legitimise we find one to legitimise yourself and the businesses and

the fame and the glamour is associated with the underworld and why become this and that's why it become this very, very sexy story . and that's why it become this very, very sexy story. i'm very something that people look and aspire become. wow what the days of that sixties london you know going out these guys in the casinos and you know the jags and that it was glamorous and yet the truth is i mean the all the glamour that people see in the glamour that people see in the crazy they could be pretty idealistic of course. exactly. yeah.i idealistic of course. exactly. yeah. i mean that's they use that glamour hide their that the glamour to hide their criminal mean criminal background but i mean that's attraction that's why think the attraction to these british old to a lot of these british old school films of that school gangster films of that sort of genre is the glamour i think is really interesting. now you about to you've you are andrew about to you've got films coming out. got more films coming out. you're busy as hell. yeah i can tell. whole new departure tell. but a whole new departure for you and this really interesting. you know the world film has been around 120 years. whatever it is . and of course, whatever it is. and of course, now it's not just in the cinema, it's your streaming , of course. it's your streaming, of course. yeah. the play which is best for you.the yeah. the play which is best for you. the streaming, all the cinema . well, the streaming is cinema. well, the streaming is the dvd . yeah, because dvd

the new dvd. yeah, because dvd is dead. yeah. so the new come in and as a new stream is coming up, in and as a new stream is coming ”p, p0p up in and as a new stream is coming up, pop up all the time. now paramount, lionsgate. so they become new so if netflix buy become the new so if netflix buy your film it's much like that i want it paramount buy it because i want to see it on the platform so becomes the new the new so it becomes the new the new dvd format. yeah cinema is a very big risk because if you get it wrong, you spend lots of money and you only get a small percentage of the cinema takings . you spen d £1,000,000 on . if you spend £1,000,000 on a cinema , it's an advertising. you cinema, it's an advertising. you get your money back. cinema takes 70% of that. so it's a big but you need the cinema for the shop window. it's had to go to netflix or to amazon to go. i spent at the cinema it all kind of works really almost of works together really almost it's leader you know it's it's a loss leader you know it's been the cinema so this is you've these big numbers so tell me a business i have you me it's a business i have you make good money out of all this we've very, very well. we've done very, very well. yeah. done yeah. and our investors done very some some films you very well. some some films you win sometimes you we structure of our investments for the

government back scheme of the choice is yeah which is actually one of the few good things the government's done to people to put venture capital with, with, with tax breaks . it with some big tax breaks. it funds the economy you get some people putting money in their savings, give it a go invest this new company if it works great you can get tax free dividends for it doesn't mean that obviously this is that you obviously this is a terrific scheme brilliant know i often criticise the government or this program but i think some of they've got absolute is going to go fine but you're about to go into a whole new world. yeah the of gaming. gaming the world of gaming. gaming which just human in size , which is just human in size, even takes people's lives is oven even takes people's lives is over, which may not be a good thing . tell us what you're up thing. tell us what you're up to. so the new, what we've done now, we've set up an old retro arcade version of like a streets of rage game, and we've turned it into rather sort of mobile game. so you can play tony or craig ralph within the i mean , craig ralph within the i mean, the game. you can choose different levels, easy and you go for this journey of six or

seven worlds and it starts and it's a game for mobile apps. it will start there. we will test market with and if the market with that. and if the game's successful, we'll go on to some more levels. the to do some more levels. but the great about we're great thing about it, we're going to get a new audience that never received put to never received or ever put to sit a train and play sit there on a train and play the it's and the game. oh yeah. and it's and it's it's, and it's marketed it's and it's, and it's marketed to audience, which is what to our audience, which is what five men are guys in their 34 hours for waste come the hours for waste come from the nineties that nineties and that's not that sort the films nineties and that's not that sort they the films nineties and that's not that sort they go, the films nineties and that's not that sort they go, well the films nineties and that's not that sort they go, well i the films nineties and that's not that sort they go, well i came films nineties and that's not that sort they go, well i can playns and they go, well i can play some mobile fun on the side or sitting you know, my sitting in traffic. you know, my dad, that , but you dad, he carries that, but you know what? you me? yeah, i know exactly . you bet. so exactly. you bet. yeah. so that's that's the behind it and who knows if it gets successful, it could be a playstation could be an anagram. all graphical which know rise of the foot which you know rise of the foot soldier you giving it a go more films to come more films come films to come more films to come . the next one will be out in october . a big premiere tomorrow october. a big premiere tomorrow night from rerelease in the very first film, 16 years first film, which is 16 years ago. made that film that's ago. we made that film that's being tomorrow night being released tomorrow night andifs being released tomorrow night and it's going to be out across

the again, the whole country again, available and across all available on sky and across all different platforms at the different platforms and at the cinema. you can watch it cinema. also, you can watch it all, where we all, all go back to where we started going 26 and 27. andrew welled up. nigel could see. fascinating. thank you. thank you . oh i've got a few seconds you. oh i've got a few seconds left and of course, you sent me in your barrel was the farage's so here we go gordon asks me, do you think that putin is laughing at britain because of all the strikes we are having? well, i don't know. i think they're probably , to be honest, lots of probably, to be honest, lots of reasons to laugh at britain at the moment. we're not exactly standing very tall in the world order. i would think putin's. got time to laugh britain like he's far too busily engaged . a he's far too busily engaged. a war that is costing more lives of tens of thousands of his young men. that actually it's quite a sobering thought. i watched that film the other week, all quiet on the western, absolutely brilliant . so

absolutely brilliant. so harrowing, but brilliant . and as harrowing, but brilliant. and as all of us are watching it, gosh, there are too many young men actually going through that experience right now in trenches , in cold weather in ukraine and it's really, really horrible . it's really, really horrible. mary says, is scotland a woke stronghold with sturgeon in charge? well, i'm so pleased that we covered that case quite heavily last week here . you heavily last week here. you know, the one i mean, the guy raped two women then claims to be a woman, gets convicted but is going to go into a women's prison, has another one since then. sturgeon has had to u—turn on all of it. her reputation is dust and we're beginning to learn . will be tolerant of all learn. will be tolerant of all people . of course we will. but people. of course we will. but actually rights are something that were fought for and championed, and they should not be endangered by men like this. common sense is beginning to win. now last thursday i was in crawley with a live audience, a large audience, because we had katie price there. we had the

local football club trying to help them raise for their new 3g pitch. we're going to luton thursday week and already announced it and it was full. we're moving venues to a bigger . you want to join me and luton for a garage at large on thursdays then please go to gb news dot uk . thank you very news dot uk. thank you very much. i'm back with you at exactly the same time . 7:00 exactly the same time. 7:00 tomorrow night . exactly the same time. 7:00 tomorrow night. but i'm not going over to mark dolan dolan . going over to mark dolan dolan. nigel cracking show a very busy programme tonight. all speed limits in this country. now to . limits in this country. now to. also is a labour government now inevitable. what that mean for you and me? we will top historian dr. david starkey. plus the mother of all comebacks is on the cards. donald trump's lawyer is live. see shortly . hi lawyer is live. see shortly. hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here with the latest forecast from the met office. a band of rain is moving over the next 24 hours with showers following . and for with showers following. and for northern parts of the uk the

winds really picking up . an area winds really picking up. an area of low pressure at the moment is affecting our weather. that's pushing into iceland. it's pushing into iceland. so it's quite far from the uk, but it is dangung quite far from the uk, but it is dangling a number weather fronts in from the north and those fronts are through the evening setting, some wet setting, sending some wet weather into scotland, northern nonh weather into scotland, northern north wales and northern ireland. the rain popping up for a time as. it pushes south dunng a time as. it pushes south during the late evening and early hours of tuesday , but by early hours of tuesday, but by the time it pushes in central areas, it is starting to ease again. and to the south, clear spells with in some spots a touch of frost first thing, but otherwise four or five celsius to the north as the fronts actually increasingly windy showers into scotland northern ireland and northern england . ireland and northern england. now the rain in the south really peters out during morning and clears away by lunchtime so not much to that and then sunny spells returning with highs of 11 or 12 celsius feeling cold though in scotland northern ireland, northern england 5 to 8 degrees with a strength in wind

cold enough for some snow above 400 metres across central and northern scotland and for central and northern scotland it turns even windier on tuesday nights with the risk of gales and 60 or 70 mile per hour wind gusts across exposed of northern scotland, especially orkney, north of the mainland, and lewis risk of disruption from those winds, but still will be showers across scotland northern ireland and northern england through the night. dry air and clear of further south. that's enough of a breeze to prevent a frost. and then bright day on in the then a bright day on in the south , northern england, south whilst, northern england, northern ireland, southern scotland sees persistent rain. its high times and in the far of scotland after that very windy start to the day, the winds do ease and the showers become fewer and further between . some fewer and further between. some sunshine cloudy sunshine reappearing, cloudy skies for all of us on thursday and friday, but milder.