well, hello there at 6:00 michelle dewberry. and this is dewbs& co, the show where we'll get into some of the things that have got you talking now. happy anniversary to you. if you were anniversary to you. if you were a brexiteer, you remember all those years ago. how is it going so tar.7 thank you. are you one of those people, by the way, that have been pulled in the sense that if you was doing your vote again today, you'd basically change your mind? i have to say, i don't know any brexiteer that is in that camp . brexiteer that is in that camp. and i have never in all of my life been pulled for anything. have you are you one of those people that have been pulled in?

did you have you changed your mind on the imf basically reported that britain is kind of like some kind of basket case, the worst performing of major economies. what's going on there, do you think, saying i want your thoughts. and teachers, rail workers , you name teachers, rail workers, you name it, everyone's striking these days that they would get this teachers won't even tell their schools if they're into schools if they're going into work tomorrow or because work tomorrow or not because they have to. i mean, they don't have to. i mean, really , if i was a teacher, i really, if i was a teacher, i wouldn't be able to look my pupil square in the eye right now. what do you make to it? do they just their own best they just have their own best interests heart? i think interests at heart? i think forgotten that forgotten about the people that they're serve. i'm they're supposed to serve. i'm children watching . by the age of children watching. by the age of nine. how on earth do you stop this? last but not least as well, is this nation corrupt ? this? last but not least as well, is this nation corrupt? i love all of that to come . first, love all of that to come. first, let's bring us up to speed. what's tonight's latest headunes. what's tonight's latest headlines . michelle, thank you

headlines. michelle, thank you and good evening to you. the top story on gb news. the foreign secretary has said the uk exit from the european union has been tricky. james cleverly was responding to a question at the house of commons earlier today of the impact of brexit. three years on. his comments come a day after the prime minister said britain was making huge strides since leaving the eu . strides since leaving the eu. and ipsos poll has suggest that britons though are still divided on how brexit has progressed , on how brexit has progressed, with 45% saying it's going worse than expected and 55% thinking it was about the same or better. well, speaking to gb news, a former business secretary jacob rees—mogg, said it was the right decision to leave the eu . bear decision to leave the eu. bear in mind though, we left three years ago, we remain tied in to european rules and regulations for a further 11 months, so it's only a little over two years. but in that two years we have avoided nearly 8000 new eu regulation ins and we've saved

taxpayers . £191 billion purely taxpayers. £191 billion purely and simply by not being signed up to the eu's postcode rescue programme. even officially ing better though. so there was a 63% increase in our catch of cod last year. so it's good for british fishermen, which we always promised brexit would be . now, as you've been hearing in your report by the international monetary fund, is predicting a negative outlook for the uk's economy . the imf focusing the economy. the imf focusing the uk's gross domestic product or gdp, will shrink. uk's gross domestic product or gdp, will shrink . by 0.6% over gdp, will shrink. by 0.6% over the coming year. but the imf was wrong last time. in october, they predicted rate of growth of 0.3. the chancellor , jeremy 0.3. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says britain outperformed many other financial forecasts last year despite higher interest rates and tighter government budgets . but the government budgets. but the shadow chancellor, rachel reeves , is blaming the imf's stance on 13 years of conservative government policy panics .

government policy panics. explain why the uk is still the only g7 economy that is smaller now than it was before the pandemic . why is the uk the only pandemic. why is the uk the only g7 economy with its growth forecast downgraded this year? why are we at the bottom of the league table both this year and next year to. and can the minister answer this ? why should minister answer this? why should anyone trust the conservatives with the economy ever again ? with the economy ever again? well, away from the economy , well, away from the economy, lancashire police have said within the last hour they are now speaking to a key witness they were appealing to come forward in the search for the missing mother of two. nicola bailey . the 45 year old woman bailey. the 45 year old woman was last seen next to the river while out walking her dog on friday. her mobile phone was later found on a bench and her dog was discovered running loose nearby by tens of thousands more to teachers have joined the uk's largest education to union take

part in mass strikes tomorrow. the national education union says 40,000 school staff signed up in a fortnight. tomorrow's the first of seven days of strikes by the union over february and march amid a dispute over pay. the education minister nick gibb, described the strikes as disruptive . it is the strikes as disruptive. it is disappointing that the any, you know, has decided to go ahead with these strikes when we are still discussing issues of pay and working and other issues very constructively. even yesterday we were having those discussions strikes are discussions and strikes are disruptive to children's education, particularly after the two years of disruption dunng the two years of disruption during the covid pandemic. and it's just disrupting to two parents and families as well . parents and families as well. international news and ukraine foreign minister says his country will receive 120 to 140 western tanks in a first wave of military hardware deliveries from a coalition of 12 countries. meanwhile footage has

been released of ukrainian soldiers being trained on how to use leopard 2 battle tanks in poland. they've been supplied by germany to help support ukraine in its ongoing war with russia . in its ongoing war with russia. it's expected, though, to take up to five weeks before crews are ready to use the vehicles in battle . here, the princess of battle. here, the princess of wales says it's essential to know what's needed to help the future generation become happy , future generation become happy, healthy adults. launching her new early years campaign called shaping us the princess says she hopes to help people understand how early childhood affects later life and adulthood. kensington palace says the importance of early years development will be a key focus for kate. for the rest of her life. vanity fair royal editor and author katie nicholl says kate is hoping her lifetime project becomes part of the national conversation . i think national conversation. i think it's significant that she's used her first sort of big moment as the princess of wales to launch

this long term campaign. that is going to be screened in cinemas. you're going to see it on billboards. we're all going to be talking about this, she hopes, in the same way that we've all started talking about mental health. you're up to date on tv, online and dab+ radio. this is gb news. back now to dewbs& co . dewbs& co. thanks for that, polly. alarm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through until 7:00 this evening along side me. i've got the political consultant emma burnell and the journalist and former brexit party mep martin daubney. good evening to both of you . how are we doing? martin you. how are we doing? martin i've not seen you since we were in deauville. yes like a working men's club down there. that was very good time . this will be very good time. this will be a big deal. yes we will be out again on the road. watch this space like to well,

space we do like to be. well, i quite frankly, like to be in a pub. i'm not going to lie about it, but i do like the live shows. looking forward to the next you the drill as next one. you know the drill as well. it is just about well. so it is not just about those three in the studio. it's about you at home as well. what's your mind tonight? what's on your mind tonight? i want your on everything want your thoughts on everything we'll tonight. we'll be discussing tonight. brexit, imf brexit, anniversaries, the imf forecast. to talk you forecast. i want to talk to you about children's content that let's face it, they really shouldn't online . how do you shouldn't be online. how do you stop that earth and strike taking teachers tomorrow ? they taking teachers tomorrow? they won't even tell their headmasters in some cases whether or not they're even going into work or not. how do you even plan for that as a parent or grandparent ? if parent or grandparent? if someone looks after a child and i do ponder this going beyond and the point where it should have done now, do teachers care about that pupils any more to the just care about their own back pockets have been harsh you tell gbviews@gbnews.uk is the tell me gbviews@gbnews.uk is the email you can tweet me out my usual at gb news or ask michelle jobs. lots of you getting in

contact already, by the way, michael says michelle, i am showered, fed and watered. i've got a nice cup of coffee and i'm ready for a great show. happy days, mick. that is the kind of life insight i like . why are you life insight i like. why are you drinking coffee at 6 pm. on the nights? anything after 4:00? that's it. i would not sleep , that's it. i would not sleep, but each to their own, i guess. let's look. what else you let's have a look. what else you guys saying? saying guys are saying? david is saying brexit here for life . i just brexit here for life. i just need a government that can properly deliver it. i'm trying, by the way, david, to give you a moment of glory and get your comments up on my screen. but it's not working. i'll keep trying . we are free, says chris. trying. we are free, says chris. nothing else matters. it will take time for such a big change. i was asking as well, are you somebody who has been pulled and has changed their mind about brexit? i don't know where they seem to find these people because every to brexit other than that doesn't change them out, hasn't changed their mind and don't even think i know and i don't even think i know anyone that's polled. maybe anyone that's been polled. maybe i to get out more, i just need to get out more, make new friends. i don't

make some new friends. i don't know. you been polled know. have you been polled on anything not. anything before? i have not. i have found someone that has changed the mind. nigel i don't think it's nigel farage. he says i changed mind after my i have changed my mind after my vote visible. he says vote on brexit visible. he says i vote i voted remain i did vote for i voted remain bought out. absolutely vote leave . if the question was asked leave. if the question was asked again , good luck. keep your again, good luck. keep your thoughts coming in on that because the reason we're talking about is this day three about brexit is this day three years ago, what were you doing? i've got to say, i marched in alongside me as well . we were alongside me as well. we were down parliament square in london . london. some might have . london. some people might have been down in a dark room been sat down in a dark room shouting, why, why, why? at the ceiling , which for un. it shouting, why, why, why? at the ceiling, which for un. it is exactly three years since we went on to leave the european union. i remember that night actually . martin so i do. i was actually. martin so i do. i was we were all the parliament square was a huge atmosphere. it was almost like carnival type atmosphere . but let's fast atmosphere. but let's fast forward to the hearing now. many people being very critical of brexit saying , you know, we're brexit saying, you know, we're basically broke the country and

all the rest of it. where do you stand on that? i think brexit was a greatest opportunity. this country had since the second world war. it gave a huge democratic voice to those who've been voiceless for many, many years. we've denied any form of immigration debate to be denied any form of debate on leaving the eu. and then when it happened , the political happened, the political establishment did everything it could to try and stymie it. that's why i got involved. i went to brussels, make sure the job done, but the doubts set job got done, but the doubts set in as to the veracity and the determination of the conservative government to actually get brexit done . when actually get brexit done. when we saw the withdrawal agreement on october the 17th, 2019, and i was on question time that night, a very hostile audience, you can probably imagine. and it was abundantly clear in that 72 page document. matt hancock was on the show, by the way. he hadn't read the document. an early indicator his ineptitude on indicator of his ineptitude on fishing , on indicator of his ineptitude on fishing, on state aid, on northern ireland, on the on the border, down the irish sea, on

the level playing field, on taxation, supremacy of taxation, on supremacy of european law. there was still holes. there were ways back through the cap flat aid for the eu to come into our territory or for politicians to row back . and for politicians to row back. and i think the conservative party gave us a brian over brexit in name only. i think it was a fighting. we should have gone for a clean break and those fractured lines have come back to haunt us. and worse than that, michel, i think now the tory government is amazingly squandered on this 80 seat majority. i think we will see a rowing back. it seems certain that labour will get in. they've already talking about getting closer alignment with the european union and we haven't taken back control of our borders. that's one key thing worth than ever before. but say it's gone. the opposite way i would argue. and so i would say it was the best opportunity we had for sovereignty and independence in our lifetime . independence in our lifetime. james and the tories threw away , so it was a great idea. james and the tories threw away , so it was a great idea . emma , so it was a great idea. emma poorly executed . it is the vibe

poorly executed. it is the vibe i'm getting from martin daubney do you agree? not with the first part. obviously i'm here to be your your voice of the other side. think i will remain valid views as well. but my valid view is i was a remainer. i really wanted to stay in the eu , but i wanted to stay in the eu, but i think the remain campaign got loads of things really badly wrong that the brexit campaign didn't in fact, and i think it is so worth us all taking a moment to think about that and what those people and when you say you haven't met a brexiteer, that's changed their minds. i think there is. there are people like me who are incredibly passionate on the remains side. there are people like yourselves who are incredibly passionate on the then the brexit side. and then there's else in the there's everybody else in the middle and there's probably quite a few those who voted quite a few of those who voted for remain. but well, okay, well , it's happened now. just get on with there were others who with it. there were others who voted for brexit a lot of voted for for brexit a lot of different reasons and i think a lot them were much better lot of them were much better appealed to the brexit campaign,

did a much, much betterjob at reaching those people , people reaching those people, people who have never voted before who may have never voted before than the remain campaign i used to say, why to get. so frustrated. say, why are fighting this campaign are you fighting this campaign as if it's the letters page of the et. and not actually something that exists in people's lives and in the pub and in the living room and in the workingmen's club as you said. so i think there is a difference between the of difference between the kind of technocratic discussions that we have about , technocratic discussions that we have about, you technocratic discussions that we have about , you know, these laws have about, you know, these laws and this and the culture , a and this and the culture, a promise that was made for brexit. and i think where a lot of people feel let down, if they don't feel that that cultural promise, whether that is done in the ways that you're talking about or whether that's done in other ways has been fulfilled and i think that is where brexit has failed far more than it's failed politically . someone will failed politically. someone will never forget where he was. he says he'll never forget this day as long as i'm alive. he's talking about the anniversary , talking about the anniversary, he said. we had a brexit party

with fireworks, but unfortunate . michel i broke my ankle running away from the fireworks. that years today and that was three years today and drew andrew, goodness me. say if distance at all times ben habib, friend of the show martin he was saying that one of his biggest regrets when it comes to the whole brexit situation was the standing down the 300 odd brexit pass a potential and p so the candidates in the last election where do you stand on the well is with ben to be today and certainly there is a feeling of what happened with brexit policy. i think as we place our faith in this get brexit done message, there are actually meps, the brexit party that didn't want to vote for this deal when we were meps . and how deal when we were meps. and how does that sound? brexit policy doesn't want to vote for brexit, but the four mentioned fracture lines which came to be true were there . i certainly think that there. i certainly think that democratically we have a healthier constituency and parliamentary process . if some parliamentary process. if some brexit party meps got over the

line to carry on holding, the conservatives feet to the fire, that stopped in december 2019. and a lot of the brexit, a lot of the tory mps i felt weren't really true brexiteers. they had all the, all the authenticity of, of those guys in a hostage video. so let's get brexit done. they never really believed in it. and i think historically, maybe even knowledge you might say it was perhaps a mistake to have stood down. yeah. the flip side of that is, though, because i was a brexit party candidate and i didn't stand down. and really, you back on really, when you look back on reflection, what did was reflection, what we did was split vote. so split the brexit vote. so the labour person re—elected labour person got re—elected when more people had when actually more people had voted against the labour candidate than voted for them. what do you i mean, a lot of people will say, oh yeah, we're not seeing all these brexit benefits and all the rest of it. but then i think actually it took so long to even get the ball rolling because so many people would to people would desperate to frustrate to change frustrate the outcome, to change the if they possibly

the result if they possibly could you've had could. you know, you've had multiple ministers since multiple prime ministers since then. had a pandemic. then. you've had a pandemic. you've got a wall like to me, these things were very long term changes. these things were very long term changes . we had a do you think changes. we had a do you think that's fair? when you look into the medium term for this country , do you think? actually, yes , i , do you think? actually, yes, i can see the prosperity just waiting to walk towards those . waiting to walk towards those. and i don't think that the best days of britain are behind us. i think that would be a terrible thing to think for and anyone who is in any way trying to change things politically should never that that opinion . never have that that opinion. because the point of because the whole point of politics is to go in to make things better, whether you're coming from left or coming at that from the left or the right. and i think brexit does make some things harder economically . i think it makes economically. i think it makes some things . just tougher for a some things. just tougher for a lot of our businesses. and there wasn't enough infrastructure put in place and probably that's david cameron's fault for calling a referendum without doing they will. what will we do

if it's one work? so there wasn't a planning for the exact thing. so yeah, you had to get up to speed. there was very little why there was they were planning. that's what they want. yeah. i'm going to put myself in those it was there those shoes. it was there planning emma because they didn't sense didn't want to stand the sense of feeling among the ordinary people. i think they were so wrapped up in westminster completely agree that they're completely agree that they're completely was used to completely. cameron was used to winning on a fairly easy setting . he had his first election against a fairly exhausted labour party, his second election against ed miliband . election against ed miliband. the there were a huge, huge support throughout the press. he wasn't prepared for the fact that an awful lot of the right wing press would be pro—brexit. so he didn't have the playing field. he was used to you. no work to prepare himself for it. well, linda's not having any of it tonight. this whole it tonight. she says this whole myth of this the myth that all of this is the fall boris johnson needs to fall of boris johnson needs to be michel i'm be stopped. michel well, i'm listening linda . you're listening to you, linda. you're saying yes , he didn't achieve

saying yes, he didn't achieve what he wanted because parliament stopped him going. no deal the benn act. then deal with the benn act. then they tried to force him to do deals the eu and then deals with the eu and then pushed the northern ireland protocol on him . that's linda's protocol on him. that's linda's view. she doesn't want to hear bofis view. she doesn't want to hear boris johnson being blamed for bofis boris johnson being blamed for boris johnson being blamed for boris johnson gets it, gets the blame for absolutely everything, doesn't . but do you think it's doesn't. but do you think it's fair in this show? i just blame david cameron, to be fair. you were saying you were saying that you've got a brexit in name only. well, he was the prime minister at the time and therefore the book has to stop somewhere. certainly with somewhere. but certainly with trust and sunak and with jeremy hunt, as chancellor, we don't have a government committed to the brexit project. i want to talk about this imf report. we could quickly , because the imf could quickly, because the imf have been no friends of brexit. it's no coincidence that they dropped this bomb on the brexit anniversary. but interesting , anniversary. but interesting, even though most remaining out there are saying brexit is the cause for these unhealthy projections, in actual fact,

their own report says because of their own report says because of the increased gas prices dependency in an overt manner upon importation, because we don't have a domestic energy strategy, it's higher taxes, which we're getting under the tories, which we thought we'd get under labour and sky rocketing interest rates, which just creates total stagnate . and just creates total stagnate. and it's not because of brexit, it's because of poor economic management and a 500 billion debt. of course because of the furlough scheme and the lockdowns. yeah and chris is emailed in saying i voted for brexit and i still want it. i need politicians to stop playing with my head and just get the promises done. no ifs, no balls, and then nobody says something else. i can't read our tea towns, but the last one. i know what you mean. and chris, i found it interesting because today the report that martin daubney is talking about, the imf projection is saying that basically we're heading for a contraction, perhaps even worse performance than russia , even performance than russia, even with its sanctions. rachel reeves actually tweeted out today saying under the tories ,

today saying under the tories, the uk is the only seven country with negative growth this year . with negative growth this year. and then there was a graphic of those projections from the imf . those projections from the imf. well, i took issue with that, emma, because it's not true to say that this country is the only country with negative growth this year. this year hasn't even happened yet . so hasn't even happened yet. so when i read statements like that, i think it's pure politicking. i think it's low rent really , and i think it's rent really, and i think it's a crisis point. we as the electorate deserve better. well i mean, we are in a terrible state in terms of growth. the last you can take the last year and we had appalling growth. you know, rachel reeves is not plucking these out of the air. these are yeah, these are economists it's important to economists and it's important to remember the imf may or may not get things wrong. what the imf says that this is she's saying this is what the imf has said and she will then, as a politician, go easy politically. it's not it's not completely out of the realms of what happens in

policymaking , that the uk is the policymaking, that the uk is the only country negative only country with negative growth misleading we haven't growth is misleading we haven't had this year. that is a projection. yeah. okay. by the way , their track record on way, their track record on projections and not that great. let's honest that they do let's be honest that they do have mixed bag . but the have a mixed bag. but the problem that the people who problem is that the people who will listen to the imf are also the people choosing the people who are choosing where to their money. so where to put their money. so it's quite possible imf will it's quite possible the imf will report, will have a really significant impact on those foreign investors as well. if you've got spare cash , send it you've got spare cash, send it my way. if you're reading reports from the imf, think of what should do my cash? what should i do with my cash? you give some to me. i'll you can give some to me. i'll always take i'll tell you always take it. i'll tell you where put actually. where else to put it, actually. what about the teachers? they will extra cash. they're will get extra cash. they're apparently going strike apparently going on strike tomorrow, get they tomorrow, but get this, they won't telling the won't even be telling the headmasters in cases headmasters in some cases whether they're into whether they're going into school or not. so it's got me pondenng school or not. so it's got me pondering , as always, going pondering, as always, going a bit too far now in terms of the impacts on the public. teachers, for example, do they care one jot about their students or do they just care about their own

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in two. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry. this is dewbs& co. we're keeping you company right through till 7:00 this evening alongside me. i've got the political consultant emma burnell and the journalist and former brexit party mep martin daubney at the very start of my programme. if you are watching, i was asking you are you one of those people that did vote brexit and has changed your mind? i seem to read about you in all these different polls, but i do not know a single person that sets that sits in that camp. i honestly don't know. now, maybe on a broaden my honzons know. now, maybe on a broaden my horizons , my friendship groups, horizons, my friendship groups, my acquaintances , i don't know. my acquaintances, i don't know. i don't know anybody that's ever been polled in this manner. i don't know anybody that's ever been polled in this manner . and been polled in this manner. and looking through my inbox , none

looking through my inbox, none of you seem to be here either. cyril says, i am now more resolute than ever when it comes to my brexit vote, and that's so is a sentiment, i have to say, thatis is a sentiment, i have to say, that is echoed throughout my inbox today. nigel at the start he told me he did change his mind but in the opposite direction. he was remain and now would go brexit. lots of people looking at the footage on the screen as well about the parliament square gathering party and saying that they wish that they'd been there. i got to say, quite good. full say, it was quite good. full actually going to lie anyway actually not going to lie anyway let's talk about straight shall we? train drivers, we? teachers, train drivers, civil university civil servants, university lectures, drivers, security lectures, bus drivers, security guards. could but guards. i could go on, but that's seven. so i'll stop that's all seven. so i'll stop there many people are there anyway. so many people are on strike and we've got the next round of strikes about to happen again tomorrow . schools, for again tomorrow. schools, for example, 20,000 schools example, nearly 20,000 schools will be impacted . example, nearly 20,000 schools will be impacted. being example, nearly 20,000 schools will be impacted . being able to will be impacted. being able to plan and manage through emma is very difficult as a parent, as a teacher, as a carer or whatever , because many of these teachers

won't even tell their bosses. the headmaster is, etc. if they're going into work tomorrow or if they're going on strike because they don't have to as part of their roles. what do you make to their. well, they don't have to, some of them. well it will depend their will depend on their relationship i relationship with management. i suspect bob manages to create bad atmospheres. good managers create good atmospheres. we've all worked in both types of workplaces. i'm sure . i mean, workplaces. i'm sure. i mean, it's not something no one goes into teaching for the money. it's not the world's best paid profession, not the world's worst either. it's not the world's worst . but worst either. it's not the world's worst. but i mean, my god, it's incredibly hard work. i wouldn't do it. i wouldn't do it in a month of sundays. it's so it's a it's far longer hours than we think because we just think of the school day. but there's so that's wrapped there's so much that's wrapped around so much around that now. there's so much imposition teacher so little imposition on teacher so little time that they get to spend actually teaching. think actually teaching. i just think we need to have a completely. yeah we are talking about how to remake britain , a post—brexit

remake britain, a post—brexit britain and an entrepreneur. a real way to do that . we need to real way to do that. we need to have the best education system in the world. to do that. we need the best teachers in the world to do that. we need to attract talent. we need to pay them well. we need to give them decent terms and conditions and thatis decent terms and conditions and that is the bottom line of how will succeed as a country. so high up here, basically funded by higher conditions as by tax, higher conditions as well. actually being well. teachers actually being able to teach teachers far more at far less emphasis on learning facts and far more emphasis on learning to think so far more emphasis on on a really broad range so that kids who are mechanically adept can actually pursue that path , kids who are pursue that path, kids who are really good at languages , which really good at languages, which i was not, can pursue that path. kids who are autistic don't have to choose between musical drama , as i had to. you you really we could do so much better for our kids and one of the important ways of doing that is to value the teaching profession better .

the teaching profession better. we just don't do that. and that's why i cannot, you know . that's why i cannot, you know. yes, a day of disruption is going to be very, very hard for parents. but a lifetime of bad education is worse. yeah, i know, because i bet loads of parents, grandparents and carers of kids shouting at the screen, you've just date you've just set a date of disruption is not great. there's not a day of disruption. this is yet more disruption off the back of months of disruptions when one minute schools was open, next minute schools were closed. education massively disrupted in terms of exams, etc. and i think actually you've got a bit of a cheek as a teacher, not even having the respect for your pupils to enable their parents to arrange cover for them. if you're going to go on strike. yeah, i come from a teaching family, my partners to a lot of my friends are teachers and they're involved in the strikes tomorrow. and i don't think this is about pay . it's always about is about pay. it's always about politics. the national education union, a disgrace is beginning of pandemic when of the pandemic when they politicise covid politicised politicise covid and politicised masks to politicise the data

they were making out. teachers with twice as likely to get covid than the general population out to be population turned out to be completely . highest completely untrue. the highest risk supermarket risk group was supermarket workers. every crisis has been utilised to play politics. they are the most militant and the most socialist, the most left wing of all. the teaching unions. and not only that, but i know from my direct experience they were applying pressure to other union a different other union members a different unions go on a unions tomorrow to go on a walkout back nea . walkout to back the nea. otherwise, they're being seen as traitors and scabs. now i come from a coalmining background. this feels, think, reminiscent this feels, i think, reminiscent of that bullying that was going on then. and they don't give a about the kids because if they did, they wouldn't have politicised lockdowns and they wouldn't doing this. teachers wouldn't be doing this. teachers care about children . i care about children. i absolutely that the absolutely believe that the unions i don't think do different thing is that if a teacher about a pupil, how teacher cares about a pupil, how come they would not will come then they would not will not pupil to be well cared for minimally disrupted say tomorrow when they go on strike by not telling their school i am off,

i'm not coming it you've got to do something about this. if you care for a pupil, why would you do such a thing? because because they want to logistically make it for schools. it a nightmare for the schools. and what i'm saying. it's and that's what i'm saying. it's about . so children as about maximum. so children as pawns precisely pawns in this game. precisely and 100,000 children never got back mainstream back into the mainstream education lockdowns education system after lockdowns . and they and that's because i believe schools were short too long. they're early casualty. long. they're an early casualty. there's any data to there's never any data to support lockdowns. the spreading of covid by children. that's stood up the same as mask wearing and this is same again. this is politics. and it's because they want to get a labour government in and they they all going to make sure that labour what they want labour get them what they want because bankroll labor because they bankroll the labor party. this is party. and that's what this is about. it's about change in the government party. government to the labour party. they any money they don't give them any money at all. this is about changing government. i mean, there are any who are any eu members who are conservatives there, any eu members lib and members who are lib dems and many are labour. many members who are labour. maybe, not quite a few who maybe, maybe not quite a few who are just not affiliated at all. but any you don't give any but the any you don't give any money labour party.

money to the labour party. they're affiliated union. they're not an affiliated union. are you saying they they support the conservative i'm the conservative government. i'm saying support saying that they don't support any or any any government at all or any political party. they have always been independent of political that's a very political parties. that's a very deliberate choice by the i think that's fantastical thinking at best. i really do. but it's just that they're not affiliated. they don't give any money. so you don't think they so you don't think at all there's any element of these strikes the joined up ness of them and all the rest of that is perhaps the rest of it that is perhaps politically motivated. i mean, it depends what you mean by politically. tell what politically. i'll tell you what i'm get the government i'm trying to get the government to if that's to change their mind if that's what mean by politically what you mean by politically motivated, are motivated, then yes, they are putting on a political putting pressure on a political government , but what are government, but what they are not doing is doing that in order to get to play party politics. they are using their best leverage against the government. the government is run by a political party. i don't wash with voters. it wash with you at home. reckons that this is home. emma reckons that this is not kind politically not kind of politically motivated any true sense of motivated to any true sense of the word. i think there's the word. i do. i think there's absolutely element of

absolutely an element of particularly these things apparently coordinated , apparently are not coordinated, ed, just so randomly ed, but it just so randomly happens all these are happens all these things are happening the same but happening on the same day. but where ask we have where do you ask me? we have this on the other day, this teacher on the other day, emma was on this emma and whilst he was on this panel emma and whilst he was on this panel, you're a regular panel, if you're a regular viewer, you'll remember it. he found out that his union teaching hadn't made the teaching union hadn't made the turn couldn't turn out, so he couldn't legitimately go on strike. it told me it would go on strike anyway. yeah which i found appalling and it made me chuckle. acted by the way, because that union didn't get the know what the turnout. and you know what they it. you couldn't they blamed on it. you couldn't even everyone they even slap everyone and they blamed it on the personal whack a apparently the postal a strike. apparently the postal workers strike at disrupted the posting of the ballot. so the teachers and they wasn't happy about it. i mean, teachers striking to create disruption and then complaining when their their activities are disrupted. you literally could not make that. oh, and by the way, teaching unions don't make me laugh. where were the when you had whole batley teacher had that whole batley teacher to remember situation that remember that situation that fellow to go off in hiding ? fellow had to go off in hiding? i dread to think where

i mean, i dread to think where he is now and what his life is like. i didn't see the teaching unions there and still unions piping up there and still in yeah i mean, you see, in hiding. yeah i mean, you see, i think that's absolutely outrageous. are you a teacher? if are a teacher, do if you are a teacher, what do you comments like this? you think to comments like this? conversations do you conversations like this, do you think to emma's point, that we value you enough? i want your thoughts gb views that gbnews.uk . when we come back, i will have lots of your responses because i can see my inbox on fire. can see my inbox is on fire. lots of you with opinions that are very strong tonight. i also want ask you, how on earth do want to ask you, how on earth do you stop children viewing online ? i actually don't think you can. and i think desperately worrying, but maybe i'm wrong. maybe there is a solution after all. what is it? you tell me and i'll see you .

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coming up on time. in two. coming up on time . watching coming up on time. watching tonight, three years on since britain's glorious exit from the eu. why are the political establishment and activist mainstreamed here still on the draw range campaign to destroy all independent stream brexit hero sir john redwood and nigel hero sirjohn redwood and nigel barrage weigh in live . plus, barrage weigh in live. plus, they'll be unfiltered opinion from us media superstar meghan kelly flees legend kelvin mackenzie . that's dan wootton mackenzie. that's dan wootton tonight 9 pm. to 11 pm. only on gmb news . tonight 9 pm. to 11 pm. only on gmb news. hi there. michelle dewberry . i'm keeping you dewberry. i'm keeping you company right through 7:00 this evening alongside the political consultant emma burnell and the journalist and former brexit party mep martin daubney. journalist and former brexit party mep martin daubney . good party mep martin daubney. good evening. welcome back everybody . lots and lots of you are in touch. neil says we all want more money. michelle, that way we're all in this mess together.

but not everyone is going to get it, he says. the most he got was 5% and his wage isn't that good in the first place. marianne says. my granddaughter was doing a gcse for about covid and is now impacted again with her a—levels and it is so unfair. who else does ? have a look. who else does? have a look. let's get some of you on the screen, shall we get your name up in light? so about that, tell us, as the women as are continuing their moaning at every opportunity and will never accept the democratic mandate the to leave the eu . the electorate to leave the eu. david. brexit i'm here for life. i just need a government that can deliver it properly. i still feel same as i did when i voted out in 2016. i've never felt otherwise. it'sjust out in 2016. i've never felt otherwise. it's just remainers are kidding themselves. i have to say i've never really gone in for this whole kind of remainer and then calling. and i don't i'm not really sure that gets us anywhere . let's have a look. anywhere. let's have a look. john says, let's be honest, we've not had a proper brexit

yet. the political establishment done everything in their power to obstruct and the to block and obstruct and the leave . henry says if you leave it. henry says if you don't strike for money, then what are you striking for? we've just been talking, haven't we? about these teachers going on strike and why? i found a teacher , by the way. emma. emma teacher, by the way. emma. emma i'm a teacher. i'm absolutely disgusted with the striking. these are the same people who happily barked at kids when they wasn't wearing their masks and applauded lockdowns, their contempt children knows no contempt for children knows no bounds. contempt for children knows no bounds . it's not easy working bounds. it's not easy working with bunch of lefties, by the way , says emma. any of the way, says emma. any of the teachers out there, carol says the people having a go at teachers are parents who cannot even be bothered to look after their own kids for a day . you their own kids for a day. you didn't say this about nurses are letting people die. goodness gracious. you were parents. what do you make of carol's feedback then that basically you're just whining because you can't be bold look after own bold to look after your own kids? look at people kids? oh, wow. look at people going, carol, i can tell you that. let's talk about kids,

shall because report from shall we? because a report from the commissioner in the children's commissioner in england quarter england has found that a quarter of watch they of kids of watch before they leave primary school . now, i'll leave primary school. now, i'll tell you for why this is a quite serious problem, because the nature of some of this stuff that these children are viewing not being of its own not least being of its own volition, violence and volition, but the violence and things like that at the start of this report, it talks about this kid had his first kid kiss the girl at the first kiss , age 12, girl at the first kiss, age 12, and was strangled as part of it because the boy , aged 12 had because the boy, aged 12 had seen that and thought that that's what you did. it worries me. martin yeah. ten years ago this spring, i made a program for channel 4 called on the brain. you remember that time when we were going to go on the broadcast? i do, my love. yes, we foul out then precisely what's happening and what's happening now. and that is was or less uniform for is it was or less uniform for children to be exposed to the stimulus at an early age because of the onset of smartphones and the internet and the fact that you just cannot control this or stop this and. so what happened

next was that they became known at time, started using this at the time, started using this as a way of demonising boys, as being potential sex offenders in waiting, which struck me as a really damaging and horrendous thing to say for the vast majority men who are majority of young men who are amazing or just confused about what sound and all that growing up in a vacuum where this normalisation of more extreme things is becoming commonplace and people misuse it, the and a few people misuse it, the vast majority don't. so we've kind of moved nowhere in the last ten years i've spoken to about 35,000 british teenagers and a variety of schools across the uk from the most elite like eton to schools behind barbed wire in woolwich , camps of the wire in woolwich, camps of the states and in milton keynes. and it's exactly the same wherever you go. when i ask the kids, put your hands. we've seen. everyone's hands go up, including the teachers. i make the teachers take part of calls . i'm embarrassed to think you're teacher. anyway i am sorry that the genie is of sorry that the genie is out of the bottle. and what we need to do rather than attempting to

do is, rather than attempting to use the internet to control it, we every attempt to make we can't. every attempt to make age verification mandatory will fail because . children, trust fail because. children, trust me, i ask them , put your hands me, i ask them, put your hands up. how do you get around this? who how do that? both who knows how to do that? both of the hands go up and by the end of that lunchtime, everyone , school will know how to , the school will know how to get it. you cannot stop get around it. you cannot stop it via technology. what you can do positive do is form positive interventions than interventions where rather than being and telling being judgemental and telling these people that they're potential you advise potential monsters, you advise them on how to critically consume and ask questions. if it looks like it's painful, it probably is . and if you want to probably is. and if you want to try something, ask . and by the try something, ask. and by the way, you're parent and you way, if you're a parent and you feel your is using this feel that your son is using this stuff, say, listen, if you see anything concerns, you ask me about because there's no about it because there's no quicker making turning quicker way of making of turning kids prohibition and kids on than prohibition and there's quicker way of making there's no quicker way of making them giving them get bored. but giving parental consent . want my parental consent. i want to my son in bubble wrap with an son up in bubble wrap with an eye mask on then lock him in eye mask on and then lock him in a room forever. i'm i this is probably one of the few times

i'm going to say this. i agree 100% with martin doepke . you are 100% with martin doepke. you are completely on all aspects of this . all this is recorded of as this. all this is recorded of as you want. it is as it exists at the moment as the way that it's being commodified and the way that it's pushed through the algorithms pushing and consume as to more and more and more and more extremes is just damaging and particularly damaging to young plastic minds who are obviously as their hormones kick in, going to be curious, we all work , we all went through it. i work, we all went through it. i mean, at my age it was because i mentioned it was finding a magazine in the bushes at your first access school . exactly. first access school. exactly. but know what we need to do you're absolutely right. is have sensible conversations with kids who we know are going to get this stuff. and there is no way of stopping that part of it about what is and isn't a

healthy sexual relationship . and healthy sexual relationship. and you have to have those age appropriate. you can't be talking to kids at five, but you do need to be telling kids very young kids, what is inappropriate and what they should be looking out for and that's where age appropriate sex education is really important. we do need to let boys know that it's perfectly okay to want to go out with girls or gay . no, go out with girls or gay. no, it's not. son of you watching that posh bar guy need to be having a conversation about what you both want to be doing. girls will be wanting to kiss boys just as much as boys want to kiss girls. but we all need to be making sure that there being sensible careful and safe sensible and careful and safe and creating that and it's creating that atmosphere. i think you're right. is the best and only way that we can deal with this. oh, gosh, worries me so as gosh, it worries me so much as a mum. all these things that cross your mind. i never would have about before. and by the way, you used say a magazine. you used to ever say a magazine. it was basically, ladies with a boobies hour. yeah, i load magazine for eight years and

often during my ten year trip as edhoni often during my ten year trip as editor, i was accused being a part of this problem, like a three i think those three stone. i think those magazines are part of the problem. i don't think they are. and didn't find evidence and we didn't find any evidence of did a global of that. and we did a global scour of the foremost experts on the psychology, addiction. the psychology, this addiction. psychotherapist expert. we work with 24 young men who were having a lot of problems, matt and and were using and paul, and they were using the told us they the thing they told us was they felt overwhelmed by it. they felt overwhelmed by it. they felt addicted to it, and they were change were worried it would change them. the huge, huge them. but the huge, huge majority young men are majority of young men are wonderful bad wonderful and won't do bad things . and it's important that things. and it's important that we remember that we don't have a nafion we remember that we don't have a nation of monsters . yeah, nation of monsters. yeah, parents, please , please, please parents, please, please, please have a look what your kids are looking online. it will make your hair curl . looking online. it will make your hair curl. in some instances, they'll take you 5 minutes to go through their phones or whatever it is. and if you don't promise to do it, just find a local teenager. well, what else am i asking moher to show to look at on show you? what to look at on your phone. you've got no excuses , really, to try and keep excuses, really, to try and keep your safe. some of

your children's safe. some of their honestly. oh it their stuff, honestly. oh it just worries me. it worries me so very, very, very much. what do you make of it all? a couple of you getting in touch saying that basically just pull the internet michelle internet connection. michelle but it's not as simple as that because the second they leave the door, go to that man at the top of the street that's got a smartphone, and then it's all oven smartphone, and then it's all over. if got over. girls, if you've got a daughter well, please educate daughter as well, please educate your not to allow your daughter not to allow people to do these kind of things to. it's not embarrassing to say no that's actually on the contrary, is very brave to stand up against this stuff. that's what them. anyway, what i said to them. anyway, let's talk about how corrupt britain is, shall we after the break because the transparency index basically is saying that the uk is now 18th in the world when it comes to how bad, how bad we are when it is corruption. i have to laugh because one of these days i'll have nothing but good news for you. today is not that day. i'll see you into .

hello there, michelle dewberry . hello there, michelle dewberry. we're keeping you company until 7:00 this evening alongside me. i've got the political consultant emma burnell and the journalist and former brexit party mep martin daub . a lots of party mep martin daub. a lots of guys have been in touch about this, about how do you stop kids from viewing things? you know, so many people are very kind of just tell the parents to sort out. i wish it was that simple . out. i wish it was that simple. i fear, though, it is not. laura says, i've always told my sons thatis says, i've always told my sons that is not real and is not like real life relationships. but unfortunately it is impossible for me to stop them viewing this if that's what they really want to do. keep your thoughts coming in, shall we? but for now, let's talk about corruption . all of talk about corruption. all of last year's political scandals , last year's political scandals, basically, we all remember them the way you might not be

surprised to learn that uk is received its worst ever ranking in a global report on corruption . it ranks 18th. the uk alongside belgium and japan . alongside belgium and japan. topping the list was denmark with the worst going to somalia here. what do you think this man now and why it's not good. this is not the kind of thing you want to be cheering about . i do want to be cheering about. i do . i do want to make the case that we the corruption is not new. i think on the day that we've seen the police massively apologise for what happened , not apologise for what happened, not just on the day at hillsborough, but for the years long establishment fix that was that was perpetrated against the fans and their families. there that was institutional corruption , was institutional corruption, too. so corruption by and people within the british state is not new. it's not necessarily endemic. it may feel like that when we feel like we're swimming in it constantly at the moment, but we there are well, i really

don't want to lose sight of is hope for democracy and for hope better oversight. we can do better oversight. we can do better in terms of making sure that we're holding people to account, holding their feet , the account, holding their feet, the fire we will have different priorities. so. martin has been talking about holding people's feet to the fire, about brexit. i would probably be talking about holding people's to about holding people's feet to the know, the fire over. you know, appalling levels of spending or i'm know, bad workplace conditions . and i won't be conditions. and i won't be talking about holding anyone's feet to any fires because i don't want to create, incite violence these days anyway , i'm violence these days anyway, i'm a writer. i'm all about the metaphor. go on. but yeah, i just think we need to be realistic that this is a problem and we can all agree that it's a problem and we should be doing more to deal with it. how then we do that will probably be where we will have a longer and more discussion. more important discussion. martin so transparent international did some really good actually into the good work, actually into the european union back in 2015.

they wanted increased transparency accountability transparency and accountability in meps expenses and how they use their allowance and how indeed they were being lobbied by external companies into getting legislation away . so getting legislation away. so they do some really good work in terms of britain's performance this time i think it's more of a kind of must try harder rather than wear a corrupt, you know, kind of benign, a republic where everything's gone to the dogs and they talk about things like the ppe and contracts, jobs for the ppe and contracts, jobs for the board, you know, contracts given to kind of friends for repairs . it doesn't go down repairs. it doesn't go down well. there's a whole we of it was too late to feature in this but nevertheless it's used as a kind of example. of course, there was also gardiner, beijing, barry you remember that seems me like the most seems to me like the most incredulous use of 600 grand on the barry gardiner is the planet. barry gardiner is going change the country going to change the country anyway. not just anyway. not. not just the conservative party , but i also conservative party, but i also want to attention to the want to draw attention to the fact ukraine comes 93rd fact that the ukraine comes 93rd on this list. and yet here we are sending billions to this

country, which is a terrible corruption index . and what could corruption index. and what could possibly go wrong in ukraine? was it something like the second most corrupt country in, europe? it's record as zelenskyy it's not record as zelenskyy actually stood against on a no anti—corruption ticket . so there anti—corruption ticket. so there is still considerable work to be done. is still considerable work to be done . i don't think anyone is done. i don't think anyone is claiming that that there is a they've got a bit distracted, but that zelenskyy specific actually stood as an anti—corruption candidate against a very corrupt government. so 93rd in the world? yeah, absolutely . but world? yeah, absolutely. but what i'm saying is you can go in there on day one and that's going to change because the problem with these things and one of the points was trying one of the points i was trying to and the reason that to make and the reason that i raised hillsborough is these things tentacles things do have tentacles everywhere can't that everywhere. you can't clean that up day. and it's not just up in a day. and it's not just politicians and all the rest of it that are corrupt. so i can tell now, because the amount tell you now, because the amount of that swindled out of money that was swindled out of money that was swindled out of people falsely of benefits, people falsely claiming for example, claiming benefits, for example, was billions, one of the was in its billions, one of the worst ever years. so it's not just of high just the high level of high polluting institutions all polluting institutions and all

the of you still the rest. it many of you still getting on brexit, the getting in touch on brexit, the remainers continuing their moaning. get my memo, moaning. you didn't get my memo, did you, dalla remain as continuing their bemoaning at every opportunity will never accept mandate accept the democratic mandate from to leave the from the electorate to leave the eu . richard the only brexit eu. richard the only brexit mistake was leaving with a deal. we should have with no deal so we can flourish without hindrance or restrictions. i blame boris for this. but linda, we have a natural told you that to start the show and his oven ready deal judith, i would still vote to leave, but we were told it wasn't to be easy. and at the moment the unions are dragging us down so many of us people getting in touch as well about the strikes. if anyone knows the ballot each. the way, knew ballot each. by the way, i knew he he is. i'd love to he is where he is. i'd love to talk to him. i would talk to him. so i would anonymously of course, i'd love to know what life has been like for him how the for him and how useful the unions plight unions were in his plight anyway, guess what? that's all i've for emma burnell i've got time for emma burnell martin very martin daubney, thank you very much. to you guys at much. thank you to you guys at home. have yourselves a wonderful evening. stop drinking

coffee. michael. that was my first email the night. you'll first email of the night. you'll never to sleep. see you never go to sleep. i'll see you tomorrow. there. i'm aidan tomorrow. hi there. i'm aidan magee and it's turning increasingly windy in the north and in the far north. the risk of gales during the next 24 hours before later wednesday. the and a lot of the the wind and a lot of the showers to ease away what we're seeing at the moment is a north south contrast with high pressure closer to the south it's dry . a cold front it's mainly dry. a cold front has cleared the cloud , but has cleared the cloud, but further tightly packed , i further north, tightly packed, i suppose a strong wind, blustery showers is continuing across scotland. northern ireland into northern during . the northern england during. the night the showers falling night and the showers falling snow for the hills and mountains of but we've got of scotland. but we've also got the wind peaking the gale force wind peaking around early hours of around the early hours of wednesday 60, 70, perhaps 80 wednesday, 60, 70, perhaps 80 mile per hour wind gusts for both of northern scotland both coasts of northern scotland could disruption. a could cause disruption. it's a cold the north, three cold night in the north, three or celsius below. that's or four celsius below. that's over further south, 5 over hills. but further south, 5 to 7 celsius, enough of a wind to 7 celsius, enough of a wind to prevent a widespread frost and bright start to and actually a bright start to the first thing, that's the south. first thing, that's where the best the sunshine the south. first thing, that's wheibe.1e best the sunshine the south. first thing, that's wheibe. i best the sunshine the south. first thing, that's wheibe. i think the sunshine the south. first thing, that's

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we' re we're three years on from ammonium mental policy in parliament square as we finally left the european union. but have we made the most of it? we'll discuss that this evening. we'll discuss that this evening. we'll have a look at how government department literally spy on people who questioned the lockdown. and our friends at the imf, i'll we're in for a real shocker of the year but never been great friends of ours. we'll whether they're right or not and joining me on talking python paul mcgowan he's got quite strong political views himself , quite strong political views himself, should all be found. join me in a minute after the

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