himself, should all be found. join me in a minute after the news with polly middlehurst middlehurst . nigel, thank you middlehurst. nigel, thank you and good evening to you. the top story on gb news tonight, tens of thousands of teachers in england and wales have joined the uk's largest education union to take part in national strikes tomorrow . the national education tomorrow. the national education union says 40,000 school staff signed up in a fortnight. union says 40,000 school staff signed up in a fortnight . eight signed up in a fortnight. eight tomorrow's the first of seven days of strikes by the union across february and march in a dispute over pay , the education dispute over pay, the education minister nick gibb described the strikes as disruptive. it is disappointing that the new, you know, has decided to go ahead with these strikes when we are still discussing issues of pay and work and other issues very even yesterday we were having those discussions and strikes are disruptive to children's education, particularly after the two years of disruption

dunng the two years of disruption during the covid pandemic. and it's disruptive , disrupting to it's disruptive, disrupting to two parents and families as well . a new report by the international monetary fund is predicting a negative outlook for the uk's economy . it's for the uk's economy. it's forecasting that the uk's gross domestic product or gdp , will domestic product or gdp, will shnnk domestic product or gdp, will shrink by 0.6% over the coming yeah shrink by 0.6% over the coming year. even though in october, they said it would grow by 0.3, they said it would grow by 0.3, the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says britain, however outperformed many other financial forecasts last year, despite higher interest rates and tighter government budgets. but the shadow chancellor rachel reeves, though, is blaming the imf's stance on 13 years of concert of economic policy . the concert of economic policy. the uk economy has got a huge potential and yet the government is failing to seize the initiative . and we see today initiative. and we see today with these forecasts from the imf, with the uk now at the bottom of the league table for growth, both this year and next, the government needs to be doing

so much more to fulfil the potential of the uk economy . potential of the uk economy. lancashire police say they found a key witness in the search for a key witness in the search for a missing mother of two. 45 year old nicola bailey was last seen walking her dog by the river wyre on friday. her mobile was later found on a bench . a dog later found on a bench. a dog was discovered running loose nearby . and today the princess nearby. and today the princess of wales has been saying it's essential to know what's needed to future generations become happy. healthy adults . launching happy. healthy adults. launching her new early years campaign called shaping us the princess says she hopes to help people understand how important early childhood is and how it affects later life. kensington palace says the importance of early years development will be a key focus for kate. for the rest of her life . that's the latest news her life. that's the latest news from the gb newsroom. you are up to date on tv, online and dab plus radio. back now so far.

good well, three years ago tonight , there was the most tonight, there was the most almighty policy that took place in parliament square . boy, it in parliament square. boy, it was lively. it was fun. tens of thousands of people, maybe 100,000 people joyously celebrating, not just the fact that we left the european union, but that we had finally beaten a political media, established . political media, established. but who would simply refuse to accept the result of june, the 23rd.7 this was our modern day peasants revolt , 23rd.7 this was our modern day peasants revolt, and we were going to celebrate it in style. and i. i was lucky. i did the honours of doing the countdown to that moment. honours of doing the countdown to that moment . and let me just to that moment. and let me just share that with you now . i had.

well, it was quite a moment, and passions were running very, very high. people were thrilled. people were excited . and whilst people were excited. and whilst we didn't think it would lead to immediate riches, we did think it would lead to a new kind of politics. but maybe a clue as to what was going to happen was going on simultaneous, a few hundred yards up the road in downing street. boris and for those of you watching this on television, and i can show you the pictures for those listening on radio , boris johnson very on radio, boris johnson very modestly , he just sort of banged modestly, he just sort of banged a goal and looked i mean, look at his face. there isn't really

any joy . he looks almost half any joy. he looks almost half embarrassed and somewhat awkward. oh gosh. we promised the british will do this. we've got an 80 seat majority. golly we've actually got to do something now. and that's not easy, because many in our own party, never wanted it in the first place. so here we are, three years after that moment and two years after we left the single market. have they been achievements against the have.7 there's no question that in terms of foreign policy , we terms of foreign policy, we stand much taller on the world stage. whether that's the awkward deal or whether it's the stance we've taken on ukraine. and may agree disagree and you may agree or disagree with that stance, but we were free to make those big decisions to take lead. you could to take a lead. you could equally that we haven't had to bail out italy and many other countries with this huge coronavirus payment scheme that the european commission have dreamt you could argue we've dreamt up. you could argue we've avoided many eu laws, but the truth of it is , the truth of it truth of it is, the truth of it is we haven't even removed the

5, the 80 on our fuel bills. the simple thing like that would have been a win and go and ask the five and a half million men and women running small businesses in this country whether regulations whether any of the regulations for which have to live have for which they have to live have been relieved. the answers big fat. the fishing industry fat. no, the fishing industry would the same, but the big would much the same, but the big one. oh, the really big one. millions of people voted brexit back in 2016 don't normally back in 2016 who don't normally vote because they actually thought time to get back thought it was time to get back control borders . very control of our borders. very controversially . i put up controversially. i put up a poster which showed a snaking column of young men coming in to the european union. the point was vote brexit. and that won't happen here. but it's happening. 45,000 people crossed the engush 45,000 people crossed the english channel last year and we still have a court in strasbourg that has a say so. have we made the most of brexit.7 let you know your thoughts, please. farage gb news .uk . because i really don't news .uk. because i really don't think we have. i'm delighted we left. it was the right thing to do. it was a joyous moment. three years ago. but we haven't

done anything like enough. and that's, frankly, because i don't think tory party ever really believed in it. with the boris johnson, it is an open question. we're joining me to discuss all of this long time labour mp brexit campaigner. now elevated to the house of lords. baroness but i'm going to call you kate of that sort, right.7 yeah you were part of that journey . i were part of that journey. i mean there have been some good things that have happened . yes. things that have happened. yes. and, you know, i look back three years ago, it's gone very, very quickly . it's years ago, it's gone very, very quickly. it's a years ago, it's gone very, very quickly . it's a very, very years ago, it's gone very, very quickly. it's a very, very happy night, a very emotional night. i remember feeling quite emotional standing those people standing with all those people who'd so hard . but who'd fought so hard. but there's no doubt , undoubtedly it there's no doubt, undoubtedly it has been disappointing in how slowly we've managed to change things . now, slowly we've managed to change things. now, of slowly we've managed to change things . now, of course, it was things. now, of course, it was covid, but will only make that as an excuse about six months, nine months, because after that there was all sorts of legislation going through. and of course , the crucial one about

of course, the crucial one about getting rid of all those eu laws is only just coming to the house of lords next week and it will be probably massacred by, by the lords. so we've not moved on that. i think you know for me it very much about, as you said at the beginning, getting our governments, whoever they were , governments, whoever they were, however they were, and whoever elected them to be in charge . i elected them to be in charge. i think what it's done is exposed the kind of fact that there is no real leadership in political parties, in all our political parties, in all our political parties to have crumbled , that parties to have crumbled, that there isn't that excitement and, you know, wanting to do things that we could have done because leaving and course, you know i couldn't not mention the fact that the those people in northern ireland have been left in the in the european union, in single market. i mean, effectively, we the union has been up and that has been been split up and that has been kind of ignored and that will have repercussions in the future

because the divergence that we hope we all hope will come . we hope we all hope will come. we get rid of some of these laws . get rid of some of these laws. northern ireland will be left behind. that is just not acceptable . you know, it really acceptable. you know, it really isn't acceptable. and you know, the conservative particular be the conservative particular be the conservative particular be the conservative and unionist government they call government as they call themselves, utterly themselves, should be utterly ashamed what's ashamed of what's happened. there's talk of a deal, a big on the horizon. would that be further set out, your view? oh, absolutely. the way it is the moment i understand that there's still talking about still really only talking about technical stuff. you technical trading stuff. you know, greenland and i mean, once you introduce green and red lines. you are then actually accepting that there is a customs but the customs. yes. so that but the crucial thing is the constitutional stuff. you know, northern ireland. i mean, just can i just give one example of this week where, you know, it's come out again, the fact that, you anyone who flies from you know, anyone who flies from belfast, in belfast, portugal or anywhere in the eu doesn't get duty free. if you if you fly from london anywhere in eu, you get duty free. so i then said, well, you know, ask treasury , well, know, ask the treasury, well, then we get if we are

then can we get if we are supposedly eu still, can supposedly in the eu still, can we get duty free to london. we then get duty free to london. oh no , no. we are oh no, no, no. because we are still part the uk. got the still part of the uk. so got the worst of both worlds and it will get worse. no listen, i think with an old ireland and you know, boris johnson said there will border the will not be a border in the irish wasn't true was it irish sea. it wasn't true was it wasn't true. i think he genuinely thought things could get move on and get changed once it happened to so we actually withdrawal agreement because the withdrawal agreement because the withdrawal as withdrawal agreement you know as , probably many us pointed , probably many of us pointed out the wasn't really out at the time wasn't really allowing us completely take allowing to us completely take back. that's all mean state back. that's all i mean state aid, all sorts of aid, you know, all sorts of things that we've been like. you know, we were told has now been ready deal and now we learned the wasn't even the government wasn't even preheated. the preheated. i mean that's the truth but know had truth of it. but you know had brexit this country. brexit faustian in this country. yeah true you know we'd yeah that's true you know we'd reached that point i think, reached that point and i think, you the brexit party you know, the brexit party success in may showed we success in may showed you we were some kind of were desperate for some kind of solution think make the solution i think to make the biggest of all are we can talk about the accord to me you know it's cost us 4% per annum and

yet actually until this year our growth been higher than the rest of the g7 . well, we can talk of the g7. well, we can talk about borders and all the disappointments to disappointments there, but to me the disappointment the biggest disappointment is this people square this those people in that square with us three years ago actually brexit would usher in a new kind of politics. it hasn't does . it of politics. it hasn't does. it it hasn't. and you know, i do genuinely that the public now has caught on to the fact that there really isn't much difference between and the conservatives. and i think at the next general election they are going to it increasing be difficult to actually motivate them to go out and vote and so them to go out and vote and so the turnout could be very very low unless some kind of new party. i mean, the reform party is doing very well in polls, giving us polling as. but i think, you know , the reform think, you know, the reform party has to become a almost a, you know, reform i mean, the fact that we haven't left the eu properly and protecting and saving the union because the union of great britain and

northern ireland to me is hugely important. and brexit to me was about our government's taking back. about our government's taking back . you're genuinely taking back. you're genuinely taking back. you're genuinely taking back control and not blaming, not the civil servants. and we will turn to the eu for every little bit of you know, they wouldn't do anything without asking brussels and. i want to the know judges the end of that i know judges and judges to love ecj and our judges to love the ecj which makes impossible to deport but to that out and but we have to that out and i just cannot understand any politician who thinks you know it's only the european court anyway. and there's a whole world. so all our, all our human issues that we all agree with could be, be incorporated in our own country. we don't need another country and other judges. and i just think people have got caught onto that . the have got caught onto that. the whole of immigration whole question of immigration and the boats coming across and us being powerless is just it's just unbelievable that we're so powerful with the conservatives aren't going to fight for these things. we get a labour government who edges ever closer back to the single market. i think you're right, but that's why they like the northern

ireland protocol because a ireland protocol because it's a halfway them and i for halfway house for them and i for it. i wouldn't trust keir starmer watched him all starmer having watched him all those years . i wouldn't trust those years. i wouldn't trust him. so there's a lot more to be done. yes. and i hope that the people see i think people i know, they pretend all these people who voted brexit are feeling feeling that they shouldn't have. i don't think that's true. i really think that people voted brexit are just people who voted brexit are just so angry and disappointed almost and emotionally upset that we haven't actually achieved . haven't actually achieved. that's not their fault. that's not the public's fault. that's politicians government fault. so the political needs to continue . well, who's going to lead it, nigel well, i don't know. but you're clear clearly up for the final case. you're clearly i mean, we need we need we sit back and allow what was such an amazing thing to happen when we turned against all those people in the establishment who said we could never win . we can't allow could never win. we can't allow that to be whittled away. drip, drip . thank you very much indeed

drip. thank you very much indeed for that. strong words in a moment, we'll talk about the international monetary fund. yes, that they are really the high priest of globalism that , high priest of globalism that, predicting doom and gloom for the uk economy. funny is, even though they announced it on this third anniversary of brexit it's not brexit, we're talking about tax regulation and something to do. i think with . jeremy hunt, do. i think with. jeremy hunt, we'll discuss all of that in just a moment.

so have we made the most of brexit? reaction is coming in thick and fast , phil said. we thick and fast, phil said. we haven't had the chance to make the most of brexit. stew says hard to make the most out of something that offers a massive

zero. i don't think stew was everin zero. i don't think stew was ever in favour of it somehow, paul says, god , no, the tories paul says, god, no, the tories have betrayed and the rejoin quislings still blame our ills on brexit. yes, they do every single day. mike says brexit hasn't had child yet. the government were deflected by covid and the war in ukraine. their incompetence helped either don't let the remainers win. and finally passionate graham who says no, nigel and i blame on the brexit party for not contesting 317 seats and giving who never wanted to brexit do all they can to create a brexit in name with an early eu withdrawal. graham i would point out to you that if i hadn't formed the brexit party, mrs. may would have stayed leader for much, much longer. and i doubt there have been any brexit at all. or at least we would have had a second referendum. all goodness knows what. so we did get rid of mrs. may and we

helped boris get massive helped boris get a massive majority . and yes, he is majority. and yes, he is completely and utterly squandered it. now completely and utterly squandered it . now the squandered it. now the international monetary fund , not international monetary fund, not particularly our friends, they are the high priests of globalism are massive supporters of the euro. they've often breached their charter in actually getting involved in a euro bailouts . but overnight euro bailouts. but overnight some quite dramatic predictions for them that the uk is headed for them that the uk is headed for a really miserable year. we won't just do worse than the other g7 economies will do worse in terms of growth even than russia well. joining me from tufton street in westminster is . gb news economics editor. liam, tell me what's happening in westminster, what what events you attending on this third anniversary about leaving the european union? well, here i am, nigel, in the heart of westminster in tufton street, very much think tank land . and very much think tank land. and what we're seeing here tonight on this third anniversary is a

meeting of what's called the european foundation, a research group set up in the early nineties . at the start of this nineties. at the start of this journey , really out of the journey, really out of the european union by the tory mp bill cash, somebody who's really got into the nitty the detail of eu law over the years. and we're going to see a number of speeches from mainly conservative brexiteers, people like john, people like bill cash himself. there's talk that priti patel is going to be showing up . it starts at 8:00. they're going to be launching this pamphlet, nigel, which is completing brexit a democratic necessity . and i think a lot of necessity. and i think a lot of people here tonight who will be gathering in the next few minutes are literally just arriving behind me. they'll be looking those imf estimates and saying, not on your nelly . yeah, saying, not on your nelly. yeah, i mean, liam is interesting, isn't it because, you know, for all the talk for all the talk from other think tanks about how much brexit has cost us actually

our gdp had been outperforming the rest of the g7. why do you think the imf are as pessimistic as bearish about the uk economy for 2023 ? well, the imf has got for 2023? well, the imf has got a long track . well, i used to a long track. well, i used to work, by the way. i know how these forecasts are construct supported the imf's got quite a long track record of underestimating eu growth before the brexit referendum , which the brexit referendum, which you'll remember well. nigel in june 2016, the imf said that just leaving voting to leave the european union would lead to a severe downturn in the economy . severe downturn in the economy. her majesty's treasury said the same thing, of course, which then chancellor george osborne cited as fact . none of it cited as fact. none of it happened. cited as fact. none of it happened . the uk economy happened. the uk economy actually soured on quite happily throughout 2016 and 2017, and since that brexit vote, of course, while argued about brexit for three years and then there was a transition period, and then pretty much when that

ended, we went into a covid lockdown. since then, of course, we've had war in ukraine, but since that vote , the uk since that brexit vote, the uk has actually pretty much has grown actually pretty much the same as germany and last yean the same as germany and last year, 2020 to the uk actually outperformed most other g7 nations, including the eurozone . we grew by 4.1, partly we had a deeper lockdown and so we had a deeper lockdown and so we had a bit of a bounce back . look, a bit of a bounce back. look, forecasts aren't destiny . and forecasts aren't destiny. and the imf also said in their report , barely picked up by the report, barely picked up by the media that the uk did grow strongly last year and the reason it isn't growing strongly this year is partly because we've been raising taxes when . we've been raising taxes when. most other countries are lowering taxes and also because we've had lots of action in the uk. of course , and because a lot uk. of course, and because a lot of our workforce remains pretty shy after lockdown, we still have a high proportion , the uk have a high proportion, the uk workforce that hasn't returned to work since lockdown ended. and of course there's lots of

working from home going on, which many economists would say impacts productivity . i'm not impacts productivity. i'm not nearly as pessimistic about the uk economy as the imf is , and i uk economy as the imf is, and i don't think actually the bank of england is either. a few months ago, the bank of england said that the uk would endure a long recession. literally in 2023. i we're going to hear on thursday. nigel that the bank of england governor , andrew bailey, will be governor, andrew bailey, will be rowing back from those very, very pessimistic assumptions about growth . and i think about uk growth. and i think pretty soon the imf will be doing the same . well, that's doing the same. well, that's good news , liam. there is good news, liam. there is something, isn't there , what the something, isn't there, what the imf say and something of what you and i have been saying together for some time here, that a country in which corporate taxes are due to go up by 30, a third increase in corporate taxes just a couple of months down the and a personal tax regime that is dragging millions into 40 ppi tax. tax regime that is dragging millions into 40 ppi tax . it's millions into 40 ppi tax. it's difficult for us to really fulfil our potential with a tax

regime that well, you know as soon as i've finished talking to you, nigel, as you'd expect from from me as you would do. i'm going to go. it's time for a dnnk going to go. it's time for a drink and start talking to some of the guests and i'm sure a big topic conversation among the guests tonight at this guests here tonight at this european foundation meeting launching this pamphlet completing brexit a democratic necessity will be this idea that corporation tax is going up in april that's legislated for it's on it's going up from 19% to 25% even though the is slowing and even though the is slowing and even though the is slowing and even though in view and then in the view of quite a lot of other economists that it will actually cost the treasury money raising that tax because for a lot of lockdown ravaged businesses, it will the last straw. i'm will be the last straw. i'm detecting nigel certainly among government backbench chairs if not among government ministers yet a bit of a move to try and put pressure on jeremy hunt and rishi to stop that rise in

rishi sunak to stop that rise in corporation tax going to happen in april. people are putting their head above the parapet. it won't feel it will feel like a tax cut , nigel because it's now tax cut, nigel because it's now on the rise . tax cut, nigel because it's now on the rise. but it tax cut, nigel because it's now on the rise . but it won't on the rise. but it won't actually cost the government any money. it can be seen prudent. and actually, as i say , it might and actually, as i say, it might actually end up raising revenue for the treasury because it will mean more businesses survive . oh mean more businesses survive. oh yeah. mean more businesses survive. oh yeah . well, liam halligan, thank yeah. well, liam halligan, thank you for that . want you please to you for that. want you please to do two things. one, go in there and lobby hard, stir as much as you possibly can. and secondly, please give my regards to everybody many of whom i stood alongside in that referendum campaign. liam halligan thank you . but you can bet your life you. but you can bet your life there will be in that lobbying like below. i'm quite right too. we cannot cooperation tax, you know, the local laundrette pays tax. we can't it going up by a third on the 1st of april. that

will be disastrous for business and for jobs . will be disastrous for business and forjobs. in a moment, we discuss how a government department took it pretty much upon itself to spy against journalists, individuals and politicians who dared question lockdown. how on earth did they get these powers? all of that in a couple of minutes .

well, here is a story straight from the books. the of george orwell . i kid you not orwell. i kid you not a department within the a department within the a department within the department of culture, media and sport dunng of culture, media and sport during the covid pandemic engage urged a branch of the army . yes urged a branch of the army. yes 77 brigade whose job is non

lethal psychological . that's lethal psychological. that's what they do and they engage these people to literally spy on politicians , journalists and politicians, journalists and members of the public who spoke out unquestioned. either the modelling that professor ferguson had put forward the efficacy of lockdowns , the efficacy of lockdowns, the vaccine. anybody that stood up strongly in question was spied upon. how has this happened? and i'm joined by emma webb, political commentator . this is political commentator. this is an extraordinary story i mean, i'd never heard of 77 brigade, part of the british army had you know, and mean the story in itself is horrifying the 77th brigade is it's original purpose it was set up to deal with hostile state actors and violent extremists abroad and then when the came about the at least according to this who spoke to the organisation big brother watch someone from within the

77th brigade went to the cabinet office and said look, we've got this capacity, we can help you to monitor misinformation, disinformation, quoting quotation marks. my quotation marks here in the uk during the pandemic, that's what they did. and so instead of monitoring what people might think or russian or chinese misinformation or disinformation onune misinformation or disinformation online , what they've actually online, what they've actually been doing is surveilling the british population of british citizens on twitter, using resources, taxpayer . money to resources, taxpayer. money to essentially monitor and document the views being shared online by journalists and public and almost most frighteningly, by elected representatives, people like david davis , this being like david davis, this being done outside of the normal intelligence services by department of culture, media and sport run a cabinet minister. i mean that's the part that i find absolute the so completely astonishing i have to say full marks to bring big brother watch. i mean they produced this

report and it's very comprehensive . what's really comprehensive. what's really interesting since , this story interesting since, this story broke on sunday. there are no denials from . government. no, denials from. government. no, and i think so big brother watch is report focussed the media is focussed on this but their report also contains a lot of other units within government that are also involved in similar sorts of things. but obviously this this story about the 77th brigade is, is the most particularly heinous and it's like peter hitchens , my former like peter hitchens, my former boss, toby, journalists like juua boss, toby, journalists like julia hartley—brewer and others who david davis and david davis . and i think we have we have to also note that whilst the government spokesman has said that this hasn't you know, this is this was open source information . it was on twitter information. it was on twitter and this hasn't led to any actions. the government are trusted flaggers. so they have the ability to reach out to big tech and to suggest to big tech maybe they should look into this

post or something. and david davis actually did have his speech in parliament removed from i quote from the from youtube. i quote from the report working with platforms, which means twitter, facebook, whoever it may be , working with whoever it may be, working with platforms to remove harmful content . so as you say , we platforms to remove harmful content. so as you say , we had content. so as you say, we had people working directly under a government department work in the west coast of american tech companies to effectively remove pubuc companies to effectively remove public statements made by either respected journalists or elected politicians. and what's important to note as well, this is this isn't just this is it misinformation. these are views that were being expressed that were critical of the government . so actually, what has been going on here is that we've had people within the army, within department and let's let's face using quite rudimentary techniques of heavy on manpower was going through social media and not using the sorts of sophisticated tools that might have used. so at least maybe

that's some kind of comfort to us and then sending this information to the cabinet office therefore informing office and therefore informing the government of the views of the government of the views of the public that are just simply critical of government policy and critical of the conservative party. so i mean, that in itself is worrying . and i think, big is worrying. and i think, big brother, what you're absolutely right say that poses a right to say that this poses a threat poses threat to democracy. this poses a threat a free society, to a threat to a free society, to the freedom press. this the freedom of the press. this not happening in britain it not be happening in britain it should not be happening in any free democratic societies. unacceptable so i agree. totally the most shocking thing of all. and thank you, shocking thing and thank you, my shocking thing of is since that story on of all is since that story on sunday, you haven't read about it in the newspapers. you haven't seen it on other tv channels or heard it on other radio stations . now you know radio stations. now you know why? because government gave so much of our money to media organisations in the form of advertising. remember can you look into his eyes and all the of that stuff that they actually too were pretty complicit in many, many cases in closing down

free speech something we're going to watch. emma webb, thank you for joining going to watch. emma webb, thank you forjoining me now on this you for joining me now on this third anniversary of us joining the european union. who else would appear on abc radio then? the leader. former leader of the liberal group in the european parliament. total euro gay verhofstadt. yes, my old friend from the european parliament. this is a little clip of what he had to say. it's really an attempt by putin to restore , i attempt by putin to restore, i should say, the old soviet . the should say, the old soviet. the only difference is that the communist party is then replaced by by his cronies . that is what by by his cronies. that is what he's trying to do. and a united europe certainly on on defence methods would make an enormous difference i think maybe without brexit, maybe was no invasion. i don't know . i guess you what brexit, maybe was no invasion. i don't know. i guess you what did i miss something. don't know. i guess you what did i miss something . yes he . said i miss something. yes he. said it. he said the ukraine invasion

was because of . yes, he is was because of. yes, he is a full foaming at the mouth , full foaming at the mouth, ranting, dangerous mania . it's ranting, dangerous mania. it's because of people like him. but thought it was vital that we did leave the european union. mr. verhofstadt , let me remind you verhofstadt, let me remind you of something . in 2014, of something. in 2014, a democratically elected leader of ukraine was brought down in a coup by people in the squares of kyiv, waving european union flags. and this endless, relentless march to the east of the european union and an implicit that far behind was nato led to me giving a speech in 2014 in the european parliament, where i said our actions will give mr. putin a cause this badly. actions will give mr. putin a cause this badly . and i said, cause this badly. and i said, there will be a war in ukraine. they hated me for saying it. then they me even more for saying it now they say because i said it means i support putin. i

don't they ? this organisation don't they? this organisation that was supposed to keep the peace , they have done more than peace, they have done more than anybody to provoke what i still believe is an unnecessary war. now, in a moment i'm, going to be joined by an artist member of the parachute regiment . artist the parachute regiment. artist and boy he's very political and he's got himself into trouble more than once. paul joins me in a moment on talking points. coming up on dan wootton tonight . three years on since britain's exit from the eu. are the political establishment an activist, mainstream media still on the draw range campaign to destroy all independent stream? brexit hero sir john destroy all independent stream? brexit hero sirjohn redwood on brexit hero sir john redwood on nigel farage way in life. plus be unfiltered opinion from us media superstar meghan kelly and fleet street legend kelvin

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it's that time of the day again. yes pleased to say it is talking pints paul mcgowan joins me. paul pints paul mcgowan joins me. paul, welcome . cheers nigel. paul, welcome. cheers nigel. good could you grab now always keen to know what i'm talking points about people's journeys how they go from one place to another. there you are you growing up inside it at ease can school you don't particularly excel at you. no, not at all. not so constant runaway . yeah. not so constant runaway. yeah. he didn't sort of quite cool since i know everyone does. and then you decide it's the parachute regiment for me and somehow you go from being in the parachute to deciding you want

to be an artist. and i suspect there are that many paras who become artists i got tell me i'm wrong . what happened? how well, wrong. what happened? how well, the funny thing is , when i left the funny thing is, when i left the funny thing is, when i left the army, i had no idea what i was going to do . no idea. one of was going to do. no idea. one of my friends said to me , paul, why my friends said to me, paul, why don't you come across up in fashion in london? so i said, okay, then, no problem. it's a job that . so i went up there and job that. so i went up there and i sort of enjoyed it, but after about five years i thought i didn't want to end up an older person in fashion with a blonde ponytail, which they all seem to have. i weren't prepared to have. and i weren't prepared to do that. so i thought what i always is education. so always want is an education. so go university. yeah so go to university. yeah so despite that you not despite the fact that you not made the most of it in your teensi made the most of it in your teens i literally lost a plot when i was younger , but the army when i was younger, but the army helped me get back on track and working london used working in london because i used to day from margate all to commute day from margate all the to london, work all the way to london, work all those things as well. yeah it was a long journey. it was a long journey. but the trouble is, if you worked in margate,

couldn't if you couldn't make any money, if you worked london and what spend worked in london and what spend that extra 5 hours a day commuting, could and money. commuting, you could and money. yeah. definitely was yeah. so i was definitely was going do so got to one point going to do so got to one point i thought what might do my life don't want to stay in fashion what to do i went to what i going to do so i went to university i went to falmouth . i university i went to falmouth. i was lucky i got picked up was really lucky i got picked up but falmouth by an art dealer and, i worked for university, i went through falmouth, then loughborough, then winchester and then bath spa . so i was and then bath spa. so i was a student and a professional at same time. so it's really weird. but i had no financial problems as a student because of it. so sam is really lucky. really. why art i think i always wanted to do it from the child, but it's one of those things you don't think of. well i'm not going to go for that. it was the odds to never being able to make it as a professional artist, and it just seemed to click, well, i think it gave me so much confidence when. i got picked up by a gallery early. i thought,

gallery really early. i thought, well possible. so we well, anything's possible. so we went from strength to strength and you were able earn and you were able to earn a living fairly quickly though. so itook living fairly quickly though. so i took a. long properly. i was willing into my thirties before i could a living out of making art and i absolutely love doing it because i could be as contrived as i want it on paper . back then, i had no platform i had no voice. and you had your website. there was no social media. and then as social media come out, i more and more political and speaking out, you know what? we're going to come that but first you got picked up by the project yeah which was a massive project down in cornwall wasn't it. yeah. and actually still to this day , you know it's still to this day, you know it's a very, very tourist site and a very attractive place and you kind of got involved that because you are an environmentalist. yeah, yeah i'm an environmentalist, a lifelong one. i will always be an environmentalist. but i do not

believe in co2, climate change. that you rare , that must make you a rare, because all because nearly all environmentalists because environmentalists today because i'm feeling i'm going to summer camp know i'm an camp to you. you know i'm an environmental but i'm i'm questioning yeah i've always questioned i don't believe anything when say the science anything when i say the science is so soon as they say. is settled so soon as they say. the science is that science is never settled. victorians never settled. if the victorians that be going that wouldn't still be going around steam trains, you around in steam trains, you know, it's really import to, you know, it's really import to, you know, to analyse these things and there's so much money going into climate industry . i into the climate industry. i actually not ever say, well , actually not ever say, well, where is all that money going . where is all that money going. yeah, yeah, billions. but the eden project, your art kind of fitting into this this theme of a lot of animals , a lot of a lot of animals, a lot of species living on the edge. yeah, yeah that's correct. that's correct. so i loved my time there, but i was not the only person that did not believe in co2. climate change. so lots of people then in the climate industry, well, it was environmentalism back then loads of people didn't believe in it and over the years they've been

weaned out of the industry. the paper worked there for years like they depend on me. for example, i remember pushed out the pushed out the bbc, the door, pushed out the bbc, treated him terribly well. in the end, the politics kind of takes over quite bit, doesn't takes over quite a bit, doesn't it? and we finish up in 2010 with a pretty dramatic incident that you're involved in. it is your art is being displayed and. it is a pretty controversial piece of art, isn't it? yeah, it was. it was made to be controversial . what were you controversial. what were you trying to say in that picture? i was just trying to get well you. you've got to remember. you've got to remember. the explosive devices were really there was a lot in the news about at the time. and if you're an artist, you ignore what's actually you can't ignore what's actually going on. you on the social. so i document what's going on. so hope of on the stepladder i'll call bad ladder it was a bit tongue in cheek really and it wasn't so much about it's about the times we live in. when you live in, you know knew i was trying to reflect the

instability of our time, but what happened was it building a wind up for three days it been in all over london. it's been in magazines , been on cover of magazines, been on cover of books in france. it wasn't a piece i did . and on the day of piece i did. and on the day of the show , the day of the opening the show, the day of the opening , it was a great year. it happened two days before that. diana opening to big picture fans outside the gallery. they waited young girl to come in to open up the gallery. then i decided to jump out with machine guns fully armed and make a big fuss over it. it was totally unexpected. and when the gallery rung me up, i thought they were wanting me out. i didn't actually believe it. and then i went down to the galleries and the bbc rang me up because the bbc, the police and the bbc bbc, the police and for the bbc away. then the bbc gave me an away. so then the bbc gave me an interview for about 40 minutes on the which printed on the phone, which they printed zero. . not a single zero. none of it. not a single word of it. they their own script. and on of that, even later on the afternoon at later on in the afternoon at 5:00, they put out a bulletin saying there was a bomb in a

london gallery and by this time they'd already understood that that was not the case. but they put it out and it absolutely wrecked the show because loads of people thought it was shut down. so they censored it. so it took. yeah, totally. it was censored. yeah. always censored. but i've censored a lot, nigel. i mean , i'm now banned platforms i mean, i'm now banned platforms like facebook . they decided like facebook. they decided because i'm being so and i make brexit artwork , they decided brexit artwork, they decided that i, i am on a list of dangerous people organised and that was offensive . it was that was offensive. it was a passion for you. yeah, totally . passion for you. yeah, totally. i could never understand why we had to give brussels so much money. then they gave it back our own money and put a little eu flag on it and then pretended that giving to us and it was always the taxpayers money. and he used to tell me you're sign your art about the european union doesn't depict the european union a particularly

european union in a particularly good well it good light. it no. well it doesn't. would you like to see it. example. i think it. you got the example. i think |, it. you got the example. i think i, i sent quite a lot of images to the brexit party and this is one of them. and you've made it into a speech. yes. sorry and you're sitting there laughing . you're sitting there laughing. yes, it has done so. i had this made up for you today. well, thank you. yes, thank you. the sort of death star project here it was. we did leave. we did leave . in the end, we left out. leave. in the end, we left out. and it's three years ago today that we had the party. maybe brexit's not worked quite as well as we would like it to have done.i well as we would like it to have done. i just don't think that the conservatives have put much effort into what i much whether they really believed in it fully, you wrote the poll. one of the most difficult things for you up as an artist you is finished up as an artist with a with a quite serious disability with your right hand. yeah well what happened was i was put in, i think it's called nine imperialist and it's basically where the when you drive your number plate gets

registered. i'm a police on you and i'll be honest the majority the police were lovely. they were absolutely fine, perfectly polite. but now and then you bump into somebody that's not nice and i thought you had a bad hand, too. i'd already had an accident for, like, three weeks before, and they decide it. i have not told him. be careful in my hand picture for my hand. he decided suddenly violent me, decided to suddenly violent me, violently handcuff me and the only single locked the cuffs. so every time it moved i got tighter and tighter and tighter and i just felt my whole hand just got crushed like that. just got crushed down like that. so the police car so i mean, the police car finally and broken finally got broken and broken parts and rather amazing we were by the time we got back to the police station, all of their body cams malfunctioned, apparently. and all the cctv outside outside the well is outside outside the well is outside a fire station on a roundabout . they stopped me. roundabout. they stopped me. it's covered with cctv. all that malfunctions as well. and then it became a case, my word

against the police's words. and because i had so 21 stop and searches my house been starts in just over four years loads of arrests because if they to arrests because if they to arrest you you can just make up anything never any charges no criminal record. i got to the point where i didn't know what to do, so i wrote a letter to labour a letter to the liberal democrat with letter to the conservatives . labour rang me conservatives. labour rang me up, really keen sent me a racial diversity form which i replied never heard from ever again . never heard from ever again. liberal democrats, never even contacted me and you. a battle is still going. yeah, yeah, yeah. i'm bishop, but me. is still going. yeah, yeah, yeah. i'm bishop, but me . so yeah. i'm bishop, but me. so townsend. she rang me up person and she said come up to portcullis house and meet me and bnng portcullis house and meet me and bring stuff. i took out them. bring stuff. so i took out them. i what. she did, but i don't know what. she did, but that immediately. i don't know what. she did, but that immediately . well, that stopped immediately. well, that's one good thing. yeah, but since you've moved on to me, seems , i mean, there is other seems, i mean, there is other things think you're going things i think you're going to go nuisance of go on making a nuisance of yourself. i am. i have many years to come. you are clearly the artist. they want to cancel. i you for .

the artist. they want to cancel. i you for. thank i enjoy. thank you for. thank you. you . you. you. are. you've got a few seconds left on this show. it's about our hours. the firearms. what have you sent me today? mick asks me how can brexit be the cause of our economic woes when this government haven't even implemented it? well make the argument is that trade with the argument is that trade with the european union is more difficult than it was as members , and there is some truth in that particular through non tariff barriers and generosity nonsense that once or twice the french have tried to put us, and in particular of on northern ireland. but the point is that when you move house there are downside costs to moving a house, but upside side benefits to doing it. what tories haven't doneis to doing it. what tories haven't done is to put in place getting rid of thousands of ridiculous eu . they say they're doing it eu. they say they're doing it now , but it's nearly seven years now, but it's nearly seven years since we voted . asks how many

since we voted. asks how many billions will it take to improve the performance of the nhs to get it above abysmal? mary i think we're at a point where this is about far more than money. it's about how the money is spent . we're spending 12% of is spent. we're spending 12% of our gdp on health. just a few short years ago, a handful of years ago, we were spending 8. so 50% more money. but the return is not commensurate with it. we need to have a great rethink about whether this system is working or not. i got to tell you, it isn't working. somebody needs the courage to stand up and say this was the 1940s model. it needs a proper full rethink . i'm done for today full rethink. i'm done for today . but back with you tomorrow at 7:00. but right. i'm going to put you in the very capable hands of mark dolan. nigel, thanks for another cracking show and we will continue the brexit conversation will be celebrating the three anniversary. and yes, i said celebrate. that's the

topic of my big opinion monologue . but can labour be monologue. but can labour be trusted with ? we'll discuss that trusted with? we'll discuss that next. here's the weather. hi there , i'm aidan mcgivern. it's there, i'm aidan mcgivern. it's turning increasingly windy in the north and in the far north. the risk of gales during the next 24 hours before later wednesday the wind and a lot of the showers ease away . what the showers ease away. what we're seeing at the moment is a north south contrast with high pressure closer to the south. it's mainly dry. a cold front has cleared the cloud, but further north tightly packed, i suppose a strong wind, blustery showers continuing across scotland, northern ireland into northern during the night and. the snow is falling as snow for the hills, mountains of scotland. but we've also got the gale force wind peaking the early hours of wednesday, 60, 70, perhaps 80 mile per hour wind gusts for both coasts of northern scotland could cause disruption. it's a cold in the north, four celsius north, three or four celsius below over. but further below that over. but further south, 5 to 7 celsius, enough of a wind to prevent a widespread frost and actually bright frost and actually a bright start the south. first thing,

start to the south. first thing, that's where best of the that's where the best of the sunshine will be. i think through wednesday areas of cloud filtering through northern ireland west scotland ireland into and west scotland as england, as well as northern england, bringing steady rain for bringing some steady rain for a time brighten up time whilst things brighten up in scotland in the north—east of scotland the the showers easing the wind and the showers easing a little less cold in the north on wednesday, seven or eight celsius further south, not quite as mild as tuesday , ten or 11 as mild as tuesday, ten or 11 celsius, but a cloudy end to the day for most now we've got this next weather system moving through, bringing some steady rain across . northern ireland, rain across. northern ireland, scotland, england on scotland, northern england on wednesday and that will wednesday night. and that will keep frost free. but it keep things frost free. but it is a damp start to thursday on in the northwest of scotland. further clear spells overnight. but it will be a generally cloudy picture for wales in the southwest again , keeping things southwest again, keeping things frost free. but think grey frost free. but i think grey skies across the board on thursday compared with the last couple of days and into wednesday for northern scotland. further steady rain heaviest over north—west highlands. further steady rain heaviest over north—west highlands . that over north—west highlands. that rain's going to continue much of thursday as well as into friday.

but for the rest of uk, for many places it is mostly dry and it's warming up .

ina in a moment headliner. in a moment headliner . first, in a moment headliner. first, the latest news headlines and tens of thousands of teachers , tens of thousands of teachers, england and wales, will join uk's largest education tomorrow. the national education union says 40,000 school staff signed up to join in in just a fortnight . tomorrow is the first fortnight. tomorrow is the first of seven days of strikes by the union across february and march amid a dispute over pay. the minister nick gibb , described minister nick gibb, described the strikes as disruptive. it is disappointing that the you you know has decided to go ahead with these strikes when we are still discussing issues of pay and working and other issues

reconstruct . typically even reconstruct. typically even yesterday were those yesterday we were those discussions and strikes are disruptive to children's education particularly after two years of disruption during the covid pandemic and its disruption disrupting to two parents and families as well . a parents and families as well. a new report by the international monetary fund is predicting a negative outlook for the uk economy . it forecast that the economy. it forecast that the uk's gross domestic product or gdp will shrink by 6% over the coming year . gdp will shrink by 6% over the coming year. even though in october , same body the imf had october, same body the imf had expected a growth pattern of 0.3. however chancellor jeremy hunt says britain outperformed many other forecasts despite higher interest rates and tighter government budgets. the shadow chancellor rachel reeves, says the stance is because of 13 years of conservative economic policy . and yet the government policy. and yet the government is failing to seize the initiative . and we see today

initiative. and we see today with these from the