energy companies are breaking down people's front doors to put in very expensive pre—payment metres. we debate . do they metres. we debate. do they simply have too much power? rishi has been in power for 100 days. we'll assess just how is he guessing on joining me on talking points charlton athletic legend alan curbishley that and much more all coming up after the news with party metal host .

the news with party metal host. nigel thank you . the news at nigel thank you. the news at 7:00 from gb news is lancashire . police say they've located a potential new witness in the search for nicola bailey. that's after they released an image of the woman who is seen in the area where. the mother of two had disappeared last friday. the 45 year old went missing in some michael's on wyre while she was walking her dog as part of the hunt. divers are still searching the nearby river. the bank of england today raised its base rate from three and a half to 4. that's the 10th increase in a row, adding that inflation has begun to fall. it also says the uk is set to enter recession this year but stresses the economic downturn could be shorter and less severe than previously expected. the chancellor jeremy previously expected. the chancellorjeremy hunt, supports the bank of england's decision but we recognise it is very difficult for families, businesses up, difficult for families, businesses up , down the country businesses up, down the country when interest rates go up. but

much harder for them would be if we didn't take decisive steps to bnng we didn't take decisive steps to bring down inflation. and that's why the bank of england is absolutely right to do what they've done today . and we in they've done today. and we in they've done today. and we in the government must make sure we support them by what i do in the budget to make sure that we make it easier , not harder for them it easier, not harder for them to do what we all want to do, which is to halve inflation. the boss of british gas owner centrica says he's horrified contractor for the company broke into customers homes to fit energy metres. his comments came shortly after the energy regulator ofgem announced it was launching an urgent investigation . it follows investigation. it follows a times sting in which an undercover journalist , a undercoverjournalist, a company, debt collectors who entered the homes of vulnerable people to force fit pre—payment metres . energy and climate metres. energy and climate minister graham stewart says it's appalling . i brought in the it's appalling. i brought in the suppliers last week to talk

about how we better look after vulnerable people because there are clear rules and they have obviously not been followed and therefore i need the regulator, ineed therefore i need the regulator, i need the companies to do the right thing by people who are in the most difficult of circumstances and have been treated on this evidence appallingly. treated on this evidence appallingly . shell says its appallingly. shell says its profits have increased by more than 53, with earnings of more than 53, with earnings of more than 53, with earnings of more tha n £68 billion last year. it's than £68 billion last year. it's the company's highest profit and its 115 year history. the energy giant has benefited from soaring oil due to russia's invasion of ukraine. a downing street spokesman has said. the prime minister absolutely understands , however, people's anger over shell's record profits at a time of soaring household bills . and of soaring household bills. and lastly, an independent inquiry into the 1998 omagh bombing has been ordered by the northern ireland secretary . the ireland secretary. the announcement follows a long running legal battle brought by

michael gallacher, whose son aidan was killed in the real ira bombing. 29 people died in the explosion in county tyrone. hundreds people were injured . hundreds people were injured. that's the latest news from the gb newsroom. now back to farage . good evening. energy very much . back in the news today as shell announced overnight record profits . yes, their last year profits. yes, their last year profits. yes, their last year profits are 32 billion. sterling lead to howls of outrage from ed miliband and many others . this miliband and many others. this is disgusting. windfall tax of 75% simply isn't big enough. well folks, let me give you a little bit of perspective . shell little bit of perspective. shell are a global company they've chosen to headquarter in the united kingdom . they do business

united kingdom. they do business all over the world. the uk. part of their revenue is just 5% of the 32 billion. and that projected in the next tax year to pay hundreds of millions of pounds to the treasury. it's easy to say, look, my energy bill is , very expensive. it's bill is, very expensive. it's not right. but the fact that firms like shell want to headquarter in the uk, i would argue , is a good thing, not argue, is a good thing, not a bad thing. now what is even bigger story , the even bigger bigger story, the even bigger story that we covered here a few weeks ago, and it's this british gas strike centric and others , gas strike centric and others, they are literally being given majesty rates, orders to break into people's houses and to install without the consent metres pre, payment metres that are very much more expensive if they are for anybody else. not only is it an absolutely gross

violation of people's privacy, but it seems to me these energy companies have simply got far too much power. let me know what you think . do the companies have you think. do the companies have too much power ? what can be too much power? what can be done? farage at gb news dot uk . done? farage at gb news dot uk. ihave done? farage at gb news dot uk. i have to say , i think the whole i have to say, i think the whole thing is shocking. i mean, this is forced entry. we've also covered over the last few weeks the standing orders. they put your standing order up and you finish up with a surplus of a 700 quid, thousand quid, whatever it is. we have helped some of you get that money back. i mean, it strikes me, you know, but i was pro privatised in so many ways. and yet we finished up. it seems to me, with a complete and utter dog's dinner. but remember , behind all of this but remember, behind all of this is the neo religious pursuit of goals of net zero. well, joining me tonight to discuss all of this and more is a man who spent a concerted , terrible amount of a concerted, terrible amount of time writing as a freelancer for

the mail , the sun, the telegraph the mail, the sun, the telegraph . he's got a brand new book out published today , which no doubt published today, which no doubt ross clarke will tell us about at some point in this conversation. ross just to begin, you , you know, this whole begin, you, you know, this whole idea that a magistrate and by the way, cedric , as say they the way, cedric, as say they will stop requesting these orders, but we'll see what comes of that. but your electricity provider, your provider could easily get a magistrate's order and somebody could almost, you know, forced entry into your home and put in place a pre—payment metre. and what people are paying on that is far more than they should be, isn't it? it is, yeah . yeah. and it's it? it is, yeah. yeah. and it's a sort of underhand way of cutting people off, you know , if cutting people off, you know, if the bad old days , the the bad old days, the electricity company, you didn't pay electricity company, you didn't pay your bill, they could come and cut off. and, you know, and cut you off. and, you know, governments tried to stop that because put in very poor because it was put in very poor people in sort living in in people in sort of living in in sanitary . so what

sanitary conditions. so what they do now is there's a break into your house, change your metre for a pre—payment metre , metre for a pre—payment metre, but then you've got to follow the sort of vouchers you can't get hold of the vouchers and you pay get hold of the vouchers and you pay more and you know, people end up being cut off . it's end up being cut off. it's a sort of back doorway of people cutting people off in september. we have heard stories in particular with that cold snap that we had before christmas and projected another one to come, starting next week. we did get stories of people that were cut off around the country. do we have any idea of the magnitude of that? well, it is a very, very large number of people . it very large number of people. it is the but it's the it's not just the numbers. it's the sort of people i mean, in the times investigation. and it's thanks to the times that we know about this , who did very good work on this, who did very good work on this, who did very good work on this, by the way. it's a woman. she's form like a four month old baby for other children, trying to bring them up a one bedroom flat . she was on you

to bring them up a one bedroom flat. she was on you a to bring them up a one bedroom flat . she was on you a quite flat. she was on you a quite a good deal with an energy company two years ago. that company went bust and without any choice , she bust and without any choice, she was shunted on to centrica british gas and her payments increased seven fold. and unsurprising she was unable to pay unsurprising she was unable to pay them . so what happens then? pay them. so what happens then? you know, to a bunch of debt collectors arrive at the door heavies to think of a polite way to say , i don't. and change of to say, i don't. and change of b and random you know have you know government has sort of us out this winter with this a £400 handout and also to the energy price guarantee. but that handout and also to the energy price guarantee. but tha t £400 price guarantee. but that £400 that's not getting through people. too many people are on prepayment metres because, you know, you and i, we have , you know, you and i, we have, you know, you and i, we have, you know, our energy accounts. the government just stuffs account automatically with this money whether we need it or not. but if you're on a pre—payment metre

you've got to sort of claim those voucher hours and redeem them at a shop so on. and the money's just getting through to the people who really need it. and you know, i talked already about direct debits and people finishing up with massive surpluses with all these companies without even knowing it. got a case today of it. i got a case today of somebody metres faulty and. they're saying, well we will install a smart metre. but he said they're going them said no they're going to them for in a conventional for putting in a conventional metre . i've got thames water metre. i've got thames water threatening me that is every fortnight. but unless i get a water maser you know, i'm going to start paying a higher. and it seems he's getting back to the central we're having tonight that these companies have been given through legislation the most astonishing power they have . and you look at these smart metres to try to sell to sell them to us on the grounds that they'll save us money. that's a load of rubbish. reason smart

metres are being installed into housesis metres are being installed into houses is twofold. once it is easier to put people onto prepayment deals, they can do it , but also it enables in the future for you to style surge pricing be introduced in the electricity system. and the reason we're going to have to have this is because government's trying to build a national grid on renewables in wind and solar. national grid on renewables in wind and solar . and when the wind and solar. and when the wind and solar. and when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine , you know, the doesn't shine, you know, the amount of energy being generated collapses . at the moment we're collapses. at the moment we're coping because we turn the gas power stations up and, down, and also we're now getting ready for some coal fired power stations to absolutely book from 2013 five. government said it's going to eliminate all gas fired power stations, all fossil fuels . and stations, all fossil fuels. and we don't have the storage if we don't we won't have the backup . don't we won't have the backup. and the only way with the of trying to sort of make up this is through of managing demand by

trying to tell people to turn off their dishwasher or to turn off their dishwasher or to turn off their dishwasher or to turn off the that was what was happening a couple weeks ago. at the moment it's on incentive in future will be the other way round. it will be a penalty. so it's pricing. yeah, it the beginning of rationing was my view . now america beginning of rationing was my view. now america is beginning of rationing was my view . now america is not beginning of rationing was my view. now america is not going down with net zero route but is going down massive subsidy route. does that disadvantage us? it does hugely. you look at those, there's a company in oxfordshire , bedfordshire, which oxfordshire, bedfordshire, which manufactures electric vans . it's manufactures electric vans. it's now suddenly going to switch its production to america . why? production to america. why? because in britain there's huge you . the energy prices have been you. the energy prices have been dnven you. the energy prices have been driven up and up in america on. the other hand, joe biden wants to chuck great subsidy at it. so thinking logically, how can we survive, thrive as a business. well, go to america. and you think, you know net zero is supposed to be about all green jobs boosting green economy

endlessly here . but net zero endlessly here. but net zero will bring huge benefits the british economy. yeah well all i can say is refining, closing chemical plants, closing aluminium closing. i mean, there's . and i'm looking at the there's. and i'm looking at the building from which it emanates. with a huge amount of media support . how do we counter this support. how do we counter this 7 support. how do we counter this ? but just by telling people the reality of you know, the fact that the government has not just the government, parliament, not it through this net zero target without a vote in parliament, no vote and without idea of how the government was going to get to net zero. it's couldn't tell us then in 2019. it still cannot tell us. the treasury was asked to come with a figure. the price of going net zero. it do so it's too difficult we don't know how we're going to get to net zero and therefore we cannot put a

price on it. and it's written into law by put that your book published today. let's have a look . give us published today. let's have a look. give us a published today. let's have a look . give us a flash to the can look. give us a flash to the can . so not a zero. so ross, clarke, what does this book tell us? it well, it's just off asking myself the questions that mps should have asked themselves before they know that this through parliament, but failed to do so. and i've looked at you know, how are we going to get there? i've looked at housing i've looked at transport. i've looked i've looked looked to energy, i've looked to industry, by industry, you know, section by section what you find all the is there's a possible there but it's very expensive it hasn't been scaled up and here we are we've got 27 years to eliminate what i was hearing in 2000. nigel don't worry about wind energy because the battery storage is just around the corner. and here we are in 2023 and we're no closer. well, it to just chuck a few couple of figures. you listeners , pacific

figures. you listeners, pacific national laboratories around the world cost of generating energy from wind is approximately. $50 per megawatt hour that's fairly similar to what gas was before the slide to store the energy in lithium batteries $300 for six times as much. and of course, you've got a if you're going to use stored energy, you've got pay to generate it. and then you've got to pay to store it. you know, you do your figures. well, i've got say , ros, good well, i've got to say, ros, good luck the book. thank you luck with the book. thank you for coming on this show on a regular basis and helping us with numbers and with some of these numbers and for of you at we for those of you at home, we present this show all of this debate . but i think, you know, debate. but i think, you know, my opinion . i debate. but i think, you know, my opinion. i think the debate. but i think, you know, my opinion . i think the rush to my opinion. i think the rush to net zero is absolute madness. it's a self—inflicted wound . it's a self—inflicted wound. this people, particularly amongst those on low incomes and all the while , china build 80 all the while, china build 80 new coal fired power stations

every year. in a moment, we've got some exclusive polling on what you. think about our membership of the european convention on human rights. we'll debate that. can we leave 7 we'll debate that. can we leave ? is it possible.

soi so i asked you to the energy companies have too much power. i certainly think they do. one viewer says scrap green taxes and save every household 25% off their energy bills will electricity. that's certainly true . scrap the standing charges true. scrap the standing charges , reduce vat , scrap the net zero , reduce vat, scrap the net zero green agenda. nonsense, and save the economy billions. well, i agree with much of that. the one thing i have to say that would be the really easy thing to do, would to remove the 5% vat on domestic bills because that was

something had to have as members of the european union. why the government haven't removed that and said to people, hey guys, here's a big brexit win is complete and utterly beyond me . complete and utterly beyond me. and it's part of what i was saying earlier this week on the third anniversary of leaving the european. the government haven't done enough to give people clear identifiable benefit s. ryan says the main reason that the energy companies have so much power is the green agenda. if we started fracking and extracted the vast quantities of our coal, big energy's influence would be greatly reduced. well run . i greatly reduced. well run. i thought it was fascinating today that ed miliband, who of course , is back now as the shadow energy spokesman , but he's energy spokesman, but he's challenged on this , challenged challenged on this, challenged on the fact that we will need fossil fuels in varying degrees . we'll need fossil fuels for many to come. wouldn't it be to produce them here at home rather

than importing them from elsewhere ? just simply says no . elsewhere? just simply says no. i mean, there is no logic to . i mean, there is no logic to. these people, they're fanatical , almost religious devotion to net zero blinds them from any sense of logic. and one more thought, we'll get . one viewer thought, we'll get. one viewer says it would. this is in reference to how much power these energy companies have got. it would essentially forcing their way people's private property and charging whatever like to. it's a mess. it's not a mass . you're wrong . it's mass. you're wrong. it's a complete disgrace . now, rishi complete disgrace. now, rishi sunak has absolutely promised. and by the way, we're 100 days in to his premiership. he's absolutely . he will stop the absolutely. he will stop the boats. but there are many us who think that might be difficult giving british judges , giving giving british judges, giving the fact they will lean again, again on the european convention of human rights , backed up, of of human rights, backed up, of course, by that court. in strasbourg . we'll talk in a

strasbourg. we'll talk in a moment about the history that court, why it was set up with perhaps the best possible intentions. but now as believe it's baleful influence is people polling and we produced figures every friday. what are the questions we ask people was . did questions we ask people was. did people think we should leave the european convention on human rights so that it can control immigration completely agree or somewhat agree . 38% disagree. somewhat agree. 38% disagree. three 32% now the 30% wouldn't say that. no, no , you could say that. no, no, you could argue that's a leading question, because we've asked about hhr and controlling borders at the same time, i would counter that by saying most people , if you by saying most people, if you presented them with hhr wouldn't actually know what it is. i think there is a growing concern that in brexit britain a court in strasbourg still has a say. now joining me, immigration

lawyer samson friend of this program , just a quick potted program, just a quick potted history this european convention human rights the court in strasbourg . this was done to strasbourg. this was done to stop abuse as such was going on in austria and germany in the early thirties. it was in austria and germany in the early thirties . it was with good early thirties. it was with good intentions wasn't it ? it was. intentions wasn't it? it was. and what it does is it protects the individual from unlawful interference by the states. but your it'll be interesting to know what parts of the convention people don't agree with. i'll give you one. the right to life . you agree with right to life. you agree with that one? do i agree, though. i need some european convention. gives me the right to life. no, they can go to hell. i've got those freedoms in my own country. freedom of expression to do with that. i think that i would. here's the point. this is my point. i don't think need a european convention to give it to us. whatever the imperfections of our country, we have , i would argue since magna have, i would argue since magna carta actually in the freest of all european countries. why do

we need this stuff to be given to us? because you can't have a government with unfettered rights against citizens. you need to have some for individuals. okay so that must be built into a democratic society. you can't have . society. you can't have. otherwise we would live in sort of dictatorship and you don't have these rights in china or saudi arabia . and there's a saudi arabia. and there's a reason you don't have these . reason you don't have these. this is the united kingdom . yes, this is the united kingdom. yes, i understand that. but as i said to you before we came on air. yeah, the reason we have gay marriages a get married is of human rights laws. marriages a get married is of human rights laws . shouldn't we human rights laws. shouldn't we decide that in our own country through a parliament whose mp we elect or sack? yes we should. and the parliament has has has elected to the human rights act as part of our legislation. and that's what parliament decided. so and they've done it because the principles of it protects everyone and it's a fundamental principle that i that i

civilised society have entrenched in law. why would we come out of it? why should a decision to deport people to rwanda ? why should at 10 pm. at rwanda? why should at 10 pm. at night a judge whose name we don't know , probably a man or don't know, probably a man or woman with no legal training, because that's what the our courts made up of jurists, not judges. courts made up of jurists, not judges . why should an unnamed judges. why should an unnamed judges. why should an unnamed judge in a foreign court decide what can and can't do in terms of controlling our borders because they have a legal right to english courts cannot overrule the jurisdiction of the european court, which is why. okay. that's the current situation. and i get that and i understand why we signed up to it back in 1949, whatever it was you know, it was a post—war world and we helped write the rules. indeed, for but i get all of that but the point is shouldn't particularly in brexit britain shouldn't ultimate

arbiter of we can or cannot do be our own supreme court and they are but for not the convention rights. look if i want to be protected against unlawful interference by the government against me i wouldn't want a british judge deciding that. oh, come on. no, i wouldn't . i that. oh, come on. no, i wouldn't. i wouldn't. if i wanted absolute in—depth , i wanted absolute in—depth, i would want a judge outside . the would want a judge outside. the country who i'm fighting against. so, in actual fact , i against. so, in actual fact, i think they do an excellent job. the european convention on human rights. and the other thing about would it stop crossings? it will not, but it's no magic. we struggle to deport people. you know, article the right to a family life, all these get quoted british judges on it. i mean, even let's get to the crux of this. we are not deporting people, even those who failed asylum are we? come up against the ecj time and time and that is unacceptable. simply true, nigel. look, the courts side with the government when you

argue article eight. i do these cases and time after time the tribunal judges side with the home office. you have be living here 20 years to come within the rules of article eight. 20 years and the government's codified it. look and the bench mark for engaging, articulate , very high. engaging, articulate, very high. are we not deporting people who illegally come to britain and file asylum? why not? quite simply because haven't got the systems to do that. the law allows the government to do that. the home office has the powers to deport people to search for applications. i tell you make application inadmissible. you make application inadmissible . the powers are all inadmissible. the powers are all there. tell you something. we're going to this actual debate. this is going to become a bigger issue in british politics. 68% of conservative voters want to leave the aca. there are going to be voices within the conservative party making this argument. we at news are argument. we at gb news are miles ahead of this debate and it's going to come. and ivan. thank you . being a regular on

thank you. being a regular on this show and being as passionate as you are, if you tune into news breakfast tune into gb news is breakfast show tomorrow have the rest show tomorrow we have the rest of our people polling. many, many interesting questions, including sunak including. how is rishi sunak doing 100 days into being the british prime minister at the moment? we'll debate that here, too .

well, liz truss lasted about 44 days. the same time, brian lasted at leeds united . but lasted at leeds united. but rishi. oh, he's sailed way that. he's now been the prime for 100 days and this was the man the grown up in the room. the man that was going to bring stability. and i suppose you could argue he's a certain degree of stability, but joining me darren mccaffrey is me is darren mccaffrey is political editor. me is darren mccaffrey is political editor . what he's been political editor. what he's been there 100 days is but i understand some new polling

coming out tonight not looking that pretty for it. no. and this is a big problem, isn't it, for rishi sunak, is that even, i think, a sense of stability with people where we where there was panicky financial markets, the pound , you know, real pound falling, you know, real concerns about actually drawing back on that . and he has managed back on that. and he has managed to do that . and jeremy hunt of to do that. and jeremy hunt of zachary, you're right, managed to do that. but the problem is, the are inching the polls are just inching continually the wrong continually in the wrong direction, not the direction, not for the conservative party, him conservative party, for him person have look at it. person. we have to look at it. he goes cabinet ministers in he goes to cabinet ministers in the , what, three the space of, what, three months? he i would reckon, is on the verge of a third, almost feels . dominic raab within feels. dominic raab within a deja vu situation with nadhim zahawi where there seems inevitability it i would say nigel rightly or wrongly , nigel rightly or wrongly, rightly or wrongly, he's always denied allegations, though they do date back four years and you get things different get things from different people. but there is just another sense . this is a problem another sense. this is a problem that's been dragged out that's overshadowing some the announcements. the government's trying . and think the trying to make. and i think the other problem that he faces,

other big problem that he faces, which is not just a kind of my of that people continue talk aboutis of that people continue talk about is the disquiet within the conservative party and you and i have talked about this an awful lot in the past. there is a large section of the party, by the way, who actually got rid of bofis the way, who actually got rid of boris johnson because they didn't was a didn't think he was a conservative who likely trust, who the entire who thinks that the entire government's for last government's plan for the last four five has not been four or five years has not been conservative they want conservative enough. they want to they want to to see taxes cut. they want to see of you know, they see kind of you know, they want to liz chemicals. so to see liz truss chemicals. so you've actually got sites do exist and my intelligence me there are 30 to 40 of them people ideas john redwood people like ideas john redwood and they really think that mistakes may have been made but actually trust and quiet on the right route, attempting to reduce the size of a state. then you've got the boris signs. i mean they're almost like it's almost like bonnie prince charlie is drinking toasts to the king and literally across the king and literally across the water, the baby, i think. i mean, there are three factions here. they're three factions. and people who simply just and there people who simply just do not like rishi enough.

because he got rid of boris johnson. that those at johnson. you know that those at the time let's let's look the same time let's let's look back start with the back and start with the conservative options. oh conservative party's options. oh don't any of them are don't think any of them are terribly or indeed terribly palatable or indeed terribly palatable or indeed terribly . but boris terribly popular. but boris johnson is not ridiculously with the public. i'm sorry. he's just. liz truss certainly is not. and i just cannot see the conservative party change you need or again as the next election. i mean when they were told that a way they chequers a couple of weeks ago to cabinet that it was a narrow path to victory. it is going to have to be would suggest it's very be i would suggest it's very nourishing. there's a poll out tonight suggesting only one in ten the ten voters think the conservative have chance ten voters think the co winning'e have chance ten voters think the co winning the have chance ten voters think the cowinning the next|ave chance ten voters think the co winning the next election ance ten voters think the co winning the next election onee of winning the next election one in that's that. it's in ten. and that's that. it's two ten, by way, of those two in ten, by the way, of those who voted for the conservative party election. party at the last election. that's how bad it's looking. and i think for rishi sunak the problem with this, it problem with all this, it becomes self—fulfilling becomes a self—fulfilling prophecy feel prophecy where the party feel and look like they're going to lose becomes almost an lose and it becomes almost an inevitability because that's where is . now the where opinion is. now the government would turn around and

say fall this say inflation will fall this yeah say inflation will fall this year. economy is not looking year. the economy is not looking quite as it was. we had quite as bad as it was. we had the bank of england today that this recession going be lot this recession going be a lot shallower that i think the as they they put rates up well they as they put rates up well and having got predictions wrong it said the past and it must be said in the past and the is not, i think, the election is not, i think, 18, 20 months away, i mean, i think it's coming the autumn of 2024. long and 2024. it's a long way and consistently you know what? yes. the conservatives are unpopular. and rishi sunak's in the wrong direction. but there is also still not a massive love for keir starmer and politics can change. but it's a tricky situation. it really is very if any two in ten of conservative 2019 voters think this think there's chance, then winning the next election, they look doomed. darren, as ever, thank you for your analysis. now, quick thought of the farage thought here of what the farage moment discriminates and yes, we all a bore discrimination. it's dreadful. it's awful. it needs to be stamped out because it's on the raf. yes, on within the raf. yes, absolutely . 160 raaf places

absolutely. 160 raaf places given to women and to ethnic minorities in preference to white pilots . now this actually white pilots. now this actually led to nicol, who was in charge of the programme resigning. this all in the name of inclusion and diversity. it's not in the name of who might be the best for the job jolly . good job. we didn't job jolly. good job. we didn't use these criteria back in 1940. otherwise we'd all be speaking german. but interestingly it's also announced today that there was a problem that women cannot fly . the f—35 jets as the fly. the f—35 jets as the helmets are too heavy for them. they've looked at light a but doubt the safety standards people should be picked for whateverjob it is in life on the basis of their ability regard this of class race , regard this of class race, genden regard this of class race, gender, sexuality a well let's we can get back to martin luther king's vision that we judge people not by their identities ,

people not by their identities, by the content of their character. we're to live in an increasingly divided society. and i want to tell if one, i do not want i do not like that it will lead to huge resentment, i think, amongst much of the white male population in. this country photo what the 4 hours the jockey club of all institutions have decided the four race meetings. yes it's almost unbelievable this because they're actually talking about cheltenham an epsom not right ascot yet that the dress codes are going to change and people should dress as they feel most comfortable , all and most, you comfortable, all and most, you know, confident there should be an emphasis on diversity and inclusion mean god help us there are no standards left in this country at all. unless, of course, you think i'm completely fashioned and totally outdoor . fashioned and totally outdoor. and if you do, i couldn't really care less. now, in a moment, i'm going to be joined on talking points by football manager charlton, athletic legend alan

curbishley. we're going to ask him what makes a good what makes a great football manager.

it's time for talking pies. i'm joined tonight by curbishley. alan, welcome to the programme seen this before you got you out dnnk seen this before you got you out drink most people don't want to pass chileans out a bit drinking. oh gosh if the on i don't want if you win now you'll win what about talking bikes of course isn't what drink it's the thought of sitting down and having a chat about life and about the world and we love guests have lived a bit down a bit and you definitely take that books a little bit. so if proper east amboy you know dad was a

docker all the rest of it you've got to learn what you've done . got to learn what you've done. but your brother tom he's had a pretty life, too. yeah, yeah. and well, he's 80 now and you can't quite believe he's got to 80 in the business and he's so folks what he did what he's in the music business and he's been the music business and he's been the manager of over 50 odd years at the moment there's got to be for it as well to this priest one or two other things done the films tommy quadrophenia. so he's got you should get him on i think if you don't drink any more. so that's all right. we don't we'll give you 2 hours i up go or a lemonade or whatever but as you say to manage the hoover 50 years and be on the red live to is really quite red live to 80 is really quite impressed. he was he some impressed. he was he say some things for you was it always going to football. yeah yeah going to be football. yeah yeah i up in canning town i was brought up in canning town but football was you know he out in the streets. that's what you did. and you didn't go home until your mum called you and 9:00 in the evening in some. so yeah it was always football is

always best. i could have gone to a lot of other clubs but west ham was the club and i joined as an apprentice when i was 1516 and of course west ham . i mean, and of course west ham. i mean, what a glamour club it was . what a glamour club it was. yeah, well, wasn't it know. but we had geoff hurst on the slot a couple of months back but with, you know, bobby moore , geoff you know, bobby moore, geoff hurst by west i won the world cup as a and it was i and your football career know you did well in your football career you played after west ham several clubs, but it was what really made kerbs, as they call it, kerbs , the household name that kerbs, the household name that you become in soccer and elsewhere was that moved to, wasn't it what it was? and was quite an interesting reason why i went the charlton i was i was playing for aston villa in the premier league and charlton was in division one, if you like, the championship. yep. relegation battle . but the relegation battle. but the north—south talking about levelling up now . but the

levelling up now. but the north—south divide was so great that i liked to come back to london. this i would never have been able to come back to london . so when charlton come in for me it wasn't the ideal of seeing the championship. i was playing in the premier league with villa, but it gave me an option to get back up because if i left any longer i would never be able to in the house in to get back in the house in market. so i back and market. so i came back and obviously it was one of best obviously it was one of the best movies i did because i play movies i ever did because i play for john a couple of for john for a couple of seasons. went off to brighton seasons. i went off to brighton and lawrence, the and then lenny lawrence, the manager, brought me back as, as a player coach. then after a player coach. and then after a couple months of being a player coach, lenny suddenly the coach, lenny and suddenly the job opened up and i took it home with me and steve as joint manager to begin with, unheard of at the time was that must be difficult. it was . how do you difficult. it was. how do you choose? he's going to play is what he was being called pinky and perky and bang bang . and it and perky and bang bang. and it got to a stage that we decided that with the two press conferences on the spin because

you know you play at home one week and away the next. so you take majority wins. so we didn't want to be the one person was going . the press columns is going. the press columns is where they won and, you know, saying nice things. so we actually discussed if we had to, we had to make sure we got our story right with the players , story right with the players, with another show, any daylight between the two of you, i guess is that way. lies disaster. yes we sat there and we claimed it out. the texas it would never if i if i didn't agree with what steve on it and he won the day would i'd never show that even you know that was the way it was and you know when the chairman phoned up we had to make sure. so the chairman phoned. i'm so it was was a time for sally. oh i you might be playing i thought you might be playing for out and steve would say no no no we've agreed that you know we're doing . then if he phoned we're doing. then if he phoned me and go nana out i can't believe we're playing 4 hours this year , so we had to make this year, so we had to make sure we had a story straight. we

did, and i think we was really successful because the club just come from sellers park and went to upton park share in and to upton park and share in and was planning fun 5000 guys upton park and i think we done really well we finished seventh in the first season and infused a lot of people to get the club, especially a couple of directors richard murray, martin syme, as, etcetera, who pump in to get us back to the valley . and you back to the valley. and you know, if we hadn't been successful , i hope back on, if successful, i hope back on, if we had a big successful upton park , don't think we would have park, don't think we would have got back in then obviously got that back in then obviously got that back in then obviously go own , you're doing go out on your own, you're doing it own it's up into it on your own and it's up into the know, you take them up the you know, you take them up the you know, you take them up the premiership and, it's tough andifs the premiership and, it's tough and it's back down after a bit and it's back down after a bit and then it's back up again . i and then it's back up again. i mean, twice, twice you to come up to the premier. well, we went up to the premier. well, we went up through the playoffs and i remember there was that guy mostly down on the last game of the season, but what we did, nigel, was quite when we went up, i think the manager at the time was about £10 million. you kind so we decided to spend

time was about £10 million. you kind so we decided to spen d £3 kind so we decided to spend £3 million on players free million pound on the stadium and we kept the free million pound for a rainy day . and so when we did rainy day. and so when we did get relegated the last game of the season, we didn't have to sell anyone. when you see clubs now and they get relegated from the premier league, it's also, you burnley wholesale you know, burnley wholesale sales , know, people have to sales, you know, people have to go sales, you know, people have to 9° ' sales, you know, people have to go , have to balance the go, you have to balance the books. we didn't to do so. books. we didn't have to do so. in actual fact. i could strengthen the because i strengthen the team because i had so we had money spend. so we strengthen side came strengthen the side came straight out that all your straight back out that all your money i mean what about the transfer this has transfer market this week has gone bonkers it has gone bonkers. i mean it's bizarre 6 million. yeah yeah . chelsea paid million. yeah yeah. chelsea paid the record . but the amount i did the record. but the amount i did catch it the other day. i think the money spent by chelsea alone was more than all the punters league put together. yeah. doesn't this show us actually that i think 70% of all the transfer fees in are english

premier league. yeah which shows us that the european super league wasn't necessary was it not. no. and i think what is happening now. not only that, the players want to come and play the players want to come and play in the premier league, the managers want to come on managing the premier league. that's so many them are that's why so many of them are managing now. and yeah, premier goes to 180 countries. listen it's incredible. i've been in new york , right? yeah. you know, new york, right? yeah. you know, friday's saturdays in new york, premier leagues playing in the pubsin premier leagues playing in the pubs in new york. they're spilling out of the streets, watching it . every taxi driver watching it. every taxi driver you get into with the car on the east coast of america ask you which team you support. it's amazing. brand amazing. successful global brand . it really, really is. charlton today in trouble. well yeah, today in big trouble. well yeah, i think there've been a series of owners and it hasn't worked and the team now is in division three if you like. yeah. as it as it was, as it was division one and is struggling . get it one and is struggling. get it right at the moment. let's talk about take over the club and

we've that that brings you know new and new there's a new you the chairman at the moment has come in save the club from the previous regime which wasn't very good is that for managers in a couple of seasons you know well to be successful i was just thinking you know 790 days 792 games in charge twice took him up to the premier league there's the alan curbishley style in europe live in harrow. they're out. yeah and it's interesting when i have you back . well to go when i have you back. well to go back to that wasn't my question. no but it's really interesting . no but it's really interesting. i asked me about this. thanks. i feel people got a stand named after and after a long, long, ongoing , which is why you may ongoing, which is why you may out you never had any trouble is when i put my name up, they put the wrong name. my first name is really llewellyn . okay, that sit really llewellyn. okay, that sit back. so is llewellyn curbishley . growing up in canning town ,

. growing up in canning town, most of my mates couldn't cycle orwellian, let alone spell it so it got shown to alan. well you never know. i must ask you quickly. you know, you went to. you went west and you were there for 70 odd games left in very odd circumstances. yeah, well, what happened i went do you a bit. well i went to a relegation battle. yeah. and we stayed up, they called it the great escape. we won seven at the last nine. yeah second season finished 10th. and the financial 10th. and then the financial crash 2000. i and i was crash came 2000. i and i was asked to sell, i was asked to raise a certain amount of money. i nearly got it. the season started and what happening behind the scenes they would the hierarchy were telling agents nigel can go he go to i'm fine in the club and it was all behind me a little bit and i was up in the players come and see me to say look you trying to sell me look i'm no i'm not

trying to sell, you know, now you're trying to sell me. might you're trying to sell me. might you vote yes. that basically, yeah. so in the end we played on the went and beat the saturday we went and beat blackburn we in fifth in the blackburn and we in fifth in the league and then i went into the dressing room i was told dressing room and i was told where to sell a player. that was deadune where to sell a player. that was deadline day, the next day out, sell a player and i had sell a player and. and i had a long winded trial clause in my contract that was responsible for transfer as players coming in, coming out. so i don't think i had any other option. i was undermined. yeah. and it a real sad that real sad because being a player there. yeah. and then gone that was in the big leagues that book coming from that area. yeah we stayed up, we finished mid—table . it was a very old mid—table. it was a very old yeah . but i didn't have no one. yeah. but i didn't have no one. it was very. i got to ask you, i mean being football manager, one of the most precarious jobs in the western world, what are the qualities ? make a good manager. qualities? make a good manager. you've done it. you've it very, very well. what are the qualities ? well, firstly, qualities? well, firstly, you got respect of your got to have the respect of your players or even more had gain

that respect if you're training sessions is the way deal with players and it's the results and you know when i first took over charlton i phoned up four or five senior managers and said , five senior managers and said, give me some advice . and one of give me some advice. and one of them went when football , you'll them went when football, you'll be okay . yeah, and i've always be okay. yeah, and i've always followed that. but no , i think followed that. but no, i think especially today when you're deaung especially today when you're dealing with 20 odd millionaires or multi—millionaires , you've or multi—millionaires, you've got you've got to have that respect that when you're actually to talking or putting the training session on or certainly said that we're going to go this weekend and this is i think we're going to win the game. but either they go buy into it, man, say they stop buying into it as a manager in trouble. so the leadership skills you need not just on philadelphia as well because they're well you've done it better than most. i don't think rejoice i'm not even drunk really bad thing over the time now thank you . we've got a few

now thank you. we've got a few seconds left. let's go to barrage the ferrari, see what you sent me today. barrage the ferrari, see what you sent me today . oh, here we you sent me today. oh, here we are. stick with us, alan. one viewer asks, are the owners of football clubs ruining the beautiful all these american buyers and everybody ? well, i buyers and everybody? well, i think think the difficulty , think i think the difficulty, the foreign ownership is understanding the game. i mean, you hear stories about american owners don't understand , don't owners don't understand, don't want relegation . well, that's want relegation. well, that's part and parcel of game because if you've not got the dream that wrexham arriving at the moment that you can control them leagues then you've got nothing. yeah, it was a depressing area for premier league clubs now under ownership after there's only four. yeah, british owners. yeah.i only four. yeah, british owners. yeah. i mean look the whole world wants to here that's great. but there are dangers with it too. bobby asks , this with it too. bobby asks, this government lost the plot big government has lost the plot big time. do you agree, bobby? i'll be telling that for the last be telling you that for the last 18 months, this, 18 months, all this, they've lost plot on many things , in

lost the plot on many things, in particular on tax . you know, if particular on tax. you know, if ordinary working folks are getting dragged into 40 tax, which for many, many years was top rate tax, they've lost the plot. now i'm done with this week, next thursday , i'm doing a week, next thursday, i'm doing a live show for roger large in luton . we've changed venues in luton. we've changed venues in the last few days. we've got a few more seats left. you want to come to farage at large? live in luton next thursday, go to gb news dot uk. i'll back here with you on monday. thanks for being with me all week , but now i'm with me all week, but now i'm going to hand you over to the very, very capable hands of . very, very capable hands of. david nigel, thanks for another show as our new monarch disappears from australian banknotes , is king charles banknotes, is king charles losing grip on the commonwealth? has he found that he's lacking the pulling power of late great queen with wholesale energy pnces queen with wholesale energy prices falling, why are we

paying prices falling, why are we paying so much to heat our homes? and following the departure of legendary ken bruce from radio two, has the bbc got a problem with older viewers and older listeners? all of that, too. good evening. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest update. friday will be dry for the vast majority , some cloud the vast majority, some cloud but some sunny spells poking through and a pretty mild day as well. the reason, high pressure is anchored just to the south of us, but it's not completely dry at the moment from it, because northern scotland's been a very wet day thanks to these weather, they are now edging south will ease down as they do so, but they're also bringing gusty winds for the next few hours across eastern scotland and northeast england. very blustery. the rain does fizzle . blustery. the rain does fizzle. it sinks into southern scotland and ireland, but a light rain and ireland, but a light rain and drizzle turning in and drizzle turning up in northwest england . dawn the northwest england. dawn to the south that places dry, cloudy south of that places dry, cloudy and very mild, seven or eight, the low overnight to their more typical of maxima this time of yeah typical of maxima this time of year. friday's weather then mostly cloudy with some rain

early on over north—west england. any early rain on the north coast of northern ireland should fizzle out. another should fizzle out. but another damp day western scotland, damp day in western scotland, although won't as heavy although the rain won't as heavy as has been through today, as it has been through today, and should ease certainly and it should ease off certainly by the afternoon along much of the coast. again, most of the west coast. again, most of england, quite a bit england, wales dry quite a bit of but i'm hopeful for of cloud, but i'm hopeful for a few more breaks in cloud. so few more breaks in the cloud. so some sunny spells, particularly eastern parts of wales, southwest and it will be southwest england and it will be a 1213 degree is likely as we go through friday evening. again most places just staying dry and cloudy, some drizzle at times a western coast and hills, particularly highlands, but say generally dry start to the weekend. still a lot of cloud around and we will see another weather front another band of rain coming in to the northwest dunng rain coming in to the northwest during saturday morning and that will across northern will spread across northern ireland by lunchtime and through the central parts scotland the central parts of scotland and scotland by and into southern scotland by the saturday afternoon. the end of saturday afternoon. behind it tends little behind it it tends a little brighter for of england and brighter for most of england and wales. and cloudy. wales. again dry and cloudy. some over the in the some drizzle over the in the west and temperatures again

above 11, 12, maybe 13 above average, 11, 12, maybe 13 degrees celsius. look the numbers for sunday that we are going a dip . temperatures going to see a dip. temperatures turning this weekend turning cooler this weekend but also sunshine on also plenty of sunshine on sunday .

good you're with gb news in moment headlines. but first let's bring you the latest news headlines. and the bank of england has raised its base rate from three and a half % to 4% from three and a half% to 4% a day. it's the 10th increase in a row but inflation is beginning to fall. the bank also the uk, is set to enter a recession recession this year. but stresses economic downturns should be shorter and less severe than previously expected . the chancellor, jeremy hunt, today supported the bank of england's decision. we recognise

it is very difficult