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very good morning. welcome. today on jb news tv and dab radio . well, over the weekend, radio. well, over the weekend, the former prime minister liz truss might have started a fresh tory party civil war. thanks she was never given a realistic chance to implement her radical plans for the economy. this comes of course, as the international monetary fund warned that britain will be the only g7 economy forecast to shnnk only g7 economy forecast to shrink in 2023. would you have more faith in liz truss or chancellor jeremy more faith in liz truss or chancellorjeremy hunt more faith in liz truss or chancellor jeremy hunt to more faith in liz truss or chancellorjeremy hunt to sort our finances? and do you have company that you will have enough to get by on with your pension? an institute for fiscal studies report that the studies report shows that the current provides overly current system provides overly generous breaks to those generous tax breaks to those with the biggest pensions, while doing little to support many on those facing low income in retirement. does that mean that you'll penalised if you work you'll be penalised if you work hard up? we're going to hard and save up? we're going to get into that and get stuck into all of that and more after look at the latest news . good morning. i'm tamsin
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news. good morning. i'm tamsin roberts in the gb newsroom. it's 10:01 thousand loads of nurses and ambulance staff in england and ambulance staff in england and some in wales are striking with today predicted to be the largest walkout in the history of the nhs . the royal college of of the nhs. the royal college of nursing will stage a two day strike in a dispute to overpay. ambulance crews and call handlers will return to work on tuesday but are then due to walk out again on friday. health minister maria caulfield says it's not affordable to meet the union's demands. we followed an independent process with a pay review body. the unions signed up to and were very happy with the settlement last year and it's difficult for us now if we are to give a payable to nurses, we'll have to look at teachers, we'll have to look at teachers, we have to look at ambulance drivers. you know, we just have to we just can't afford inflation busting pay rises that the unions are currently demanding . the unions are currently demanding. gmb the unions are currently demanding . gmb regional demanding. gmb regional organiser diane ferguson told gb
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news they're striking to save the nhs long term . we believe the nhs long term. we believe the nhs long term. we believe the money is in the pot but obviously we're asking them to distribute it to the workers first. obviously that will put more money year on year into the nhs and have to because inflation requires the ultimate leave. it doesn't seem to come to down the frontline workers and that's where we will not need to be. and it's not just about the pay , it's about the about the pay, it's about the conditions that these guys are working under. conditions that these guys are working under . and we want a working under. and we want a long term strategy to save the nhs for everybody . today marks nhs for everybody. today marks the 16th and final strike day for teachers in scotland who walked out in a dispute over pay . but more walkouts are on the honzon . but more walkouts are on the horizon as there's been no agreement between the teaching unions and holyrood . the unions unions and holyrood. the unions are demanding a 10% rise for their members. the scottish government has only offered a 5% salary increase . hundreds of salary increase. hundreds of people are dead and thousands more injured after a huge earthquake struck southeastern
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turkey . the 7.8 magnitude quake turkey. the 7.8 magnitude quake hit an area near the border with syria , causing widespread syria, causing widespread destruction . local officials say destruction. local officials say more than 600 people have been killed and that the figure is likely to rise significantly. many buildings have collapsed and rescue teams are frantically searching through the rubble for survivors . the head of epsom survivors. the head of epsom college has been found dead alongside her husband and her seven year old daughter. the bodies of emma patterson , her bodies of emma patterson, her daughter lettie and husband george were found at the prestigious boarding school in the early hours of sunday morning. surrey police are investigating but say they're confident it's an isolated incident with no third party involvement . a private under involvement. a private under water rescue company will join the search for nicola pooley as images of the missing mother of two have been released. the specialist diving company sgi
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will assist police and searching the river wyre after offering its services free of charge. it comes as new pictures have been released of ms. billie from the day she disappeared . the images day she disappeared. the images taken from her home's doorbell camera and released by her family show the mother of two loading her car before driving her two children to school . her two children to school. former met police officer david carrick is due to be sentenced at southwark crown court today . at southwark crown court today. carrick admitted to 24 counts of rape as well as charges of sexual assault , controlling and sexual assault, controlling and coercive behaviour and false imprisonment. he's accused of carrying out the attacks on a dozen women over 18 year period while serving as a police officer. the 48 year old is due to be sentenced over the course of two days. the princess of wales has urged schoolchildren to keep talking about their feelings as she marks the start of children's mental health week. kate'sjoined of children's mental health week. kate's joined pupils in
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london's east end in raising the importance of being open with feelings. it's after she launched her shaping us campaign last week, which raises the profile of the early years development of children . walking development of children. walking and cycling routes in england will be boosted with a £200 million fund to make crossings and junctions safer. the department for transport has announced the new scheme could also include more paths in rural areas , new routes for areas, new routes for schoolchildren and more inclusive street designs to support people using wheelchairs and mobility scooters . beyond, and mobility scooters. beyond, say has become the most decorated grumpy artist of all time. the americans say it picked up her 32nd award this year ceremony. picked up her 32nd award this year ceremony . she won the best year ceremony. she won the best dance electronic music album for her latest album, renaissance, the biggest gong album of the year went to british star harry styles for his third album, harry's . styles for his third album, harry's. house this is gb news.
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more from me shortly . now, more from me shortly. now, though, it's back to beth . though, it's back to beth. ferry. good morning . welcome to ferry. good morning. welcome to bev turner. today on gb news tv and dab radio . here's what's and dab radio. here's what's coming up on the show this morning. having been largely quiet for roughly the last three months since she resigned as pm less truss gave her side of the story yesterday and a whopping fourth thousand word article in the daily telegraph. she claims that she wasn't given a real chance to implement her radical fiscal plans, but rishi sunak's allies believe that any further interventions from truss could cause divisions which cost the tories the next election. stay tuned to exactly what she said about her short spell in number 10 and tens of thousands of nurses and ambulance workers in
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england and wales will go on strike again today. nhs leaders have called this the biggest round of industrial action in its history. the general secretary of the royal college of nursing said the strikes will continue until the government listens demands and are listens to their demands and are going to be joined the studio going to be joined in the studio for next 2 hours by the for the next 2 hours by the lawyer and future andrew lawyer and future s andrew e board and the public health expert. doctors we hakam will be asking if vaping is the underrated addiction of our times as the uk's top selling vape is stripped from shelves over illegal levels of nicotine . and also, why won't the bbc defend j.k. rowling against transphobia? accusations of course, this show needs you as well. we'd love to know your thoughts on liz truss. wish she'd given enough time. email me gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news to have your say . at gb news to have your say. so the business secretary, grant shapps has said that the former prime minister liz truss is approached to the economy.
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clearly wasn't correct after the former pm's says that she was never given a realistic chance to enact tax cuts. joining me now is political reporter olivia utley. good morning, olivia . utley. good morning, olivia. full 4000 words written by liz truss in the telegraph. what did you think of the article? i thought it was very well written, i have to say. i was just. well written and she makes some important arguments. i think there'll plenty in the think there'll be plenty in the conservative members think there'll be plenty in the consmepsve members think there'll be plenty in the consmeps who members think there'll be plenty in the consmeps who think members think there'll be plenty in the consmeps who think thatnembers think there'll be plenty in the consmeps who think that the bers and meps who think that the party is now poorer without her on the frontbench. i mean, i don't want to sell myself in a couple of sentences because there's a lot easy sell, but i'll it go . what she says i'll give it a go. what she says essentially is that the economic establishment was set against her from the moment that she took office. she makes some jibes at the sort of left wing establishment, the bloc , some establishment, the bloc, some call it the way that the bank of england, civil service, england, the civil service, whitehall , are stacked against whitehall, are stacked against low tax conservatives and the opr for example, which is needed to make any financial decisions.
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and most most decisions are laid out with an able forecaster and it's stacked against and it, it overestimates the value of high spending and underwrites underestimates the value of high taxes, which is a structural problem in the economy. she also points to the fact that these these pension funds , ldi, as these pension funds, ldi, as they're called, were huge , they're called, were huge, highly leveraged . and 60% of the highly leveraged. and 60% of the whole of the gdp were in these pension funds, which meant that there was basically a tinderbox, she calls it, under the uk economy, ready to at any economy, ready to explode at any time. acknowledges she time. she acknowledges that she was realise that was naive not to realise that and sort of play along and not to sort of play along with rules others have in with the rules as others have in the past. but she that the the past. but she felt that the situation was so urgent that things needed to be done quickly and to circumvent and she needed to circumvent that. it pretty that. but it was a pretty compelling article is likely compelling article and is likely to rishi sunak is right that it is likely to entrench some of the divisions in the conservative party because there the divisions in the conalreadya party because there the divisions in the con already plenty because there the divisions in the con already plenty of cause there the divisions in the con already plenty of tory; there the divisions in the con already plenty of tory mpsre are already plenty of tory mps who are frustrated with rishi sunak's determination to stick to his tax agenda, thinks to his high tax agenda, thinks that's a sure fire way to lose
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the next and if they the next election. and if they now coalesce around liz truss thatis now coalesce around liz truss that is a problem for the prime minister. she she can come back to that. she's not a threat. seriously sunak as pm though we see that said that's a clearly ridiculous suggestion. so is the idea just that she could meddle, as you say, and somehow galvanise people to share her ideology? i mean , when you talk ideology? i mean, when you talk about she talks about her radical financial plan . it isn't radical financial plan. it isn't actually that radical. it's just very conservative. it's a strange time we live in that that kind of idea of fiscal stimulus is going to be a radical policy . yes. i mean, you radical policy. yes. i mean, you almost wonder if she's saying it in a tongue in cheek sort of way, because the idea that it is radical when it is, it was the you could argue just a no tax conservative agenda , which is conservative agenda, which is made very, very difficult to do, by the way, that the economic establishment is set up is a bit odd on the point that she makes, which i thought was very interesting, that the obe are
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interesting, is that the obe are we got a stage where we're we got to a stage where we're sort of tail wagging dog the appeal create its appeal would create its forecasts and the elected prime minister would would work out what policies they would do based on how the obe off what we can do instead of the other way round. maybe i should be forecasting based on prime ministerial activity. i mean, there are plenty in the obe who would argue that that the institution to make institution was set up to make to regulate that, to make it possible to make policies looking into the future. but that balance , truss would argue, that balance, truss would argue, has been upset a little bit over the last ten years. too much faith is being put in sort of gospel of the ball. and i think just the forecasters say i mean, she's saying in a five year forecast, a treated is accurate predictions and therefore filling the gap becomes the imperative government policy imperative of government policy . exactly she's saying tail wagging the dog. yes exactly. we're so we're so fixated on these. predict tions that it hamstrings the government to not make the right decisions. the government, which has been
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elected and what was difficult for liz truss, of course, is that she says she had a mandate, which i'm piece didn't respect and in these times as you say, maybe this is strange, but in these was these times what she was planning was quite radical. she did a mandate the did have a mandate and that the conservatives election conservatives won the election and did choose her. the and then mps did choose her. the voters that party members chose her. mandate was her. but the mandate was a little tenuous, which little bit tenuous, which i think made it harder for her to act, perhaps she should have act, and perhaps she should have realised that. and with the queen's death, it also made it quite difficult. the political threat to rishi sunak, as you say, isn't she tries to say, isn't that she tries to make a comeback become prime make a comeback to become prime minister. that she gets minister. it's that she gets this conservative growth coalition . they're styling coalition. they're styling themselves together of backbench mp and they become like the erg is pushing from the is actually pushing from the outside and making life very difficult for prime minister difficult for the prime minister . olivia tonelli, i . just lastly, olivia tonelli, i thought it was a very interesting piece of writing because unlike some resignations sort of reflections, let's say she doesn't blame that so many other people. she blames the system . she doesn't seem bitter
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system. she doesn't seem bitter . she doesn't she takes responsibility . that's quite responsibility. that's quite refreshing. well, i read it like that as well, but there are plenty who who would disagree. i mean, she does blame the economic establishment. she blames whitehall. there were definitely some veiled jabs at rishi sunak and mps who didn't give her enough of a chance. but as you say, she does acknowledge her own sort of naivety in not understanding how the system was stacked against her. the bit of blame for treasury officials, for not warning her about the way these pension funds were set up. but if it is, as she says, then i don't blame her for being a bit of a jab at them. but who knows what the situation was behind the scenes? okay. thank you, olivia. one man who you, olivia. now, one man who tweeted support liz tweeted his support of liz truss, article the sunday truss, his article in the sunday telegraph was the former london mep forman. good morning . mep lance forman. good morning. lance, thank very much for lance, thank you very much for joining me. so tell me, why were you in support of her statement? what did you like about her explanation of events ? well, i explanation of events? well, i thought it was really important
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that she made the statement because she had to set the record straight. otherwise, anyone that wants to put through anyone that wants to put through a free market, low tax policies would not be able to do that in future because people would just be laughing at what had happened.soit be laughing at what had happened. so it was really important to set the record straight about . it was by straight about. it was loved by business people. the cbi praised it, the institute of directors praised it. the ibm, which is a family business network, praised it. the daily mail put on their front page at last a real tory budget . but front page at last a real tory budget. but you front page at last a real tory budget . but you know, this the budget. but you know, this the fact is that she was stitched up like a kipper by those in the establishment. my i think many in her own party that didn't really understand what was truly going on, particularly as you said with the is and i think the person that needs to be holed up in front of a lot of serious questioning is the you know, the bank of england and indeed, the pensions regulator. this i mean, look, these old eyes , it might
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look, these old eyes, it might be quite complicated for economic idiots like me to understand and possibly you don't know how how much you understand the lda and how the leveraging caused us such problems with the market. but she should have known . it's all she should have known. it's all very well for us to not know. but surely she should have had somebody to say, look, this is going to be an unexpected or practically unexpected consequence of policy. how consequence of this policy. how can know that? well if can she not know that? well if you want me to explain lda as i can do, it's not that complicated, but it's. you said essentially pension funds were not able to invest in risky equities and so they had to invest in bonds and government bonds and over the last ten years, interest rates have been so low that the return on those pension funds was very, very low. so they were worried that they wouldn't have enough cash to pay out pensioners when they retire. so what happened was these new this new thing called ldi was introduced where essentially pension funds could borrow more money on the
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collateral of the gilts and bonds that they had . and what bonds that they had. and what did they do with that money they borrowed? they invested in more bonds gilts, and then they bonds and gilts, and then they borrowed more the back of borrowed more on the back of that. was basically giant that. it was basically a giant ponzi now has . ponzi scheme. britain now has. £1.6 trillion invested in these risky oldies. that's, you know, that's more than half of all the oldies on the planet. it's two thirds of our national debt. and indeed, this is really interesting. the bank of england's own pension fund for its own team is worth england's own pension fund for its own team is wort h £5 its own team is worth £5 billion, 80% of that is in these hd eyes. you know, there's a huge conflict going on. and i just wonder whether that is the reason why interest rates have been too low for too long. the bank of england have one job, and that is to control inflation. they allowed to inflation. they allowed to inflation get to 10. they failed miserably . and the big question, miserably. and the big question, i think , is, were they i think, is, were they responsible because they were worried about these over risky ldiand worried about these over risky ldi and that's why interest rates never went up fast enough.
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allies of rishi sunak have warned that liz truss is delusional view that saying a short lived premiership could cost the party votes at the ballot box. we're just hearing olivia explaining why that might happen. olivia explaining why that might happen . do you see that as a happen. do you see that as a potential consequence of her position now having a public analysis of what happened ? no, i analysis of what happened? no, i don't. i don't think that's really what she was trying to do. i think it was a you know, a question of setting the record straight, because i think, you know, people would mock her because they didn't really fully understand what was going on. and i don't also believe that the markets were spooked by her budgets at all. you know , all of budgets at all. you know, all of her financial advisers were trailed the entire summer long dunng trailed the entire summer long during this the leadership hustings. she said what she was going to do with taxes and her energy policy people and throw that out. so, yes, but the energy policy was going to cost £30 billion. people you know, she explained that to the markets two weeks before. there is no way markets could have
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been spooked by that. what spooked the markets was the day before the budget . the bank of before the budget. the bank of england only put up interest rates half a% to deal with inflation, whereas people like the american fed had put out three quarters of three times that year and the bank of england had their hands tied because of these ideas. i think that the bank of england chase and the pensions regulator need to come in for some serious questioning. you know, to come in for some serious questioning. you know , £1.6 questioning. you know, £1.6 trillion of pensioners funds were invested in these risky assets. and that is outrageous. yeah well, we're going to be talking about pensions and potential tax changes with liam halligan about those in just a little while as well. but thank you very much. lance forman , you very much. lance forman, former mep, for joining you very much. lance forman, former mep, forjoining me you very much. lance forman, former mep, for joining me this morning. what do you think ? get morning. what do you think? get in touch on twitter, won't you, at gb news. and also message me gb views at gbnews.uk . now off gb views at gbnews.uk. now off the right, the uk's top selling vape is stripped from shelves over illegal levels of nicotine. i don't know about you, but i
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think vaping is the most underrated addiction of our time and it is targeting teenagers. i'm going to have public health expert dr. zoe hachem and the brilliantly effervescent andrea abel brilliantly effervescent andrea abel, and we'll be here. we're going to be tackling that and some more stories from your papers just after this short .
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break very good morning. it is 10:22 am. this is beth, 10th day on gb news and now let me introduce my guest to you this morning. i'm delighted to be joined by doctors zoe harkin, author, health expert, and basically mega brain that evidence base the way we also have here today and broadcaster and futurist you all so mildly intelligent . and broadcaster and futurist you all so mildly intelligent. i like it but no actually i love the fact we've got some glorious
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people. we've been having such fun in the green room as well. and you use good. we've done the show already. well all right, let's talk about this story, andrew. yes top selling vape is a stripped from shelves in the uk because of a legal levels of nicotine. now this has put it in the headlines today, but i think vaping is one of the biggest going biggest health going to be the biggest health crisis generation. it is crisis of our generation. it is endemic teenagers , endemic within teenagers, absolutely designed to appeal to kids , bright packaging and sweet kids, bright packaging and sweet flavours. you got cola and cotton candy and things like that. and the law says you're allowed. i think it's what it to mg or whatever it is of that within these things this particular product called elf ball extortion as in health and so on and so forth, it has about 50% more than it's supposed to have. 50% more than it's supposed to have . it's a chinese firm . it have. it's a chinese firm. it isn't a legal level of nicotine and basically needs to be addressed . they apologise. they addressed. they apologise. they said it was an accident. i'm terribly sorry. i didn't really mean it. the thing is, though, vapes were brought in as this product going save product that was going to save the from the dangers of
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the world from the dangers of cigarettes smoking . and it cigarettes and smoking. and it was intended for people who was only intended for people who smoke cigarettes and wants to quit become anything but quit. it has become anything but hasn't. that is absolutely the end of the issue because it was intended to stop smoking. i think it's done instead is think what it's done instead is to vaping in and to start people vaping in and starting them younger and younger. and of course the flavours can become flavours cola can become bubblegum designed to appeal to children. i was in a newsagents at the weekend dropping off a parcel group of children outside children, teenagers to see who the oldest to pop into the shop. and thankfully the shopkeeper was saying, do you have id? because they didn't look over 18, have to be, and 18, which you have to be, and then they sort of sheepishly go away and then the next to come in their starting people in and try their starting people on nicotine product. this is on a nicotine product. this is worse how worse than smoking, but how dangerous do we know? dangerous is it? do we know? like are potential like what are the potential risks from vaping or is it just a bit too soon to know? because we had it that long that we haven't had it that long that that's the issues. it's that's one of the issues. it's there's unknown. don't there's the unknown. we don't know don't know. we know yet what we don't know. we don't to go into the one we don't want to go into the one we don't want to go into the one we
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don't know rumsfeld's rumsfeld he doing don't know he was doing but we don't know all it. we do know already all about it. we do know already that it the heart and that it affects the heart and the lungs. so i didn't know until into this story until i looked into this story that are methods of that there are two methods of delivery. is more like delivery. so one is more like a cigarette. somebody cigarette. so somebody might sort of smokes of eight more like they would a cigarette. and then more like an asthma then one is more like an asthma inhaler. one sort of going inhaler. so one is sort of going direct the lung and one direct into the lung and the one is going in via the more is sort of going in via the more cigarette smoking, but cigarette type smoking, but they're into the they're both going into the lung. they have thousands of chemicals these products. chemicals in these products. we don't do. so and don't know what they do. so and it's so important to question everything. health everything. public health england they support vaping because you say because what they say as you say for to quit smoking, they for people to quit smoking, they say it's 95% safer than cigarettes. you look at cigarettes. but you then look at the about children the statistics about children and illegal under 18 to buy and it's illegal under 18 to buy vapes. but 7, they say, of 11 to 17 year olds do so regularly . 17 year olds do so regularly. oh, and the rest, if there's any parents watching this out there who have teenagers , just just who have teenagers, just just message me on the show and tell message me on the show and tell me what a problem this is. i was at a music festival last summer, and it was mainly kind of
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teenagers, young teenagers . teenagers, young teenagers. don't i was out. i was don't ask why i was out. i was probably about having probably about four having a lovely with by the and lovely time with by the say and every t nature in the field is vaping, of course. no. vaping, of course. oh no. i mean, 13, 14, 15. because they see as harmless and it's as see it as harmless and it's as has was ever those teenagers want to experiment with things and probably yes we would rather it was that than a cigarette . it was that than a cigarette. but the irony is now of course some of them are turning to cigarette because the vape is a gateway drug. i think people just to make it cool. well, when i was a kid about 20 years ago, well they used to have those fake little cigarettes which are donein fake little cigarettes which are done in sweets and little thing that yeah was like that tobacco. yeah was like coconut all coconut flavour and it was all designed cool and that designed to be cool and that sort of thing. and i think that's the we need to that's the problem. we need to look this, we need to call it look at this, we need to call it out. so what this has done was this is illegal. it's a much bigger problem. you're bigger problem. so if you're getting colours and flavours of packaging sort packaging and that whole sort of social is needs to be social thing is needs to be stopped called out. the stopped and called out. the thing is, i've never seen any pubuc thing is, i've never seen any public issue or any public health issue or any pubuc public health issue or any public statement about public health statement about the get
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the risks of and my children get a of education at school a lot of education at school about various they never about various things they never i've never seen anything yet about harms of vaping. was about the harms of vaping. i was listening orthodontist listening to an orthodontist talk day. somebody talk the other day. somebody that reconstruction that does facial reconstruction that does facial reconstruction that where that he's seeing patients where they explode in their face and they explode in their face and they literally blow out their teeth need because it's teeth and they need because it's an electrical i why don't we hear about that you tell me. well, you're hearing about the here toothache, the whole here on the toothache, the whole truth but the truth truth and nothing but the truth from orthodontist. from the orthodontist. fantastic. but. fantastic. well, thank you, but. yeah just. also as yeah honestly, just. and also as parents, she can't smell vapes. it's not like cigarettes, right? i'm things that i'm talking about things that don't sense . rishi sunak. i'm talking about things that don'tlook sense . rishi sunak. i'm talking about things that don'tlook , sense . rishi sunak. i'm talking about things that don'tlook , aense . rishi sunak. i'm talking about things that don'tlook , a helicopteri sunak. i'm talking about things that don'tlook , a helicopter . sunak. i'm talking about things that don'tlook , a helicopter. d0|ak. i'm talking about things that don'tlook , a helicopter. do you hey, look, a helicopter. do you have a problem with this? zoe this is in the papers today. he's been taking his own helicopter at his expense. not necessarily his helicopter , but necessarily his helicopter, but at his expense to go up from london to his constituency in richmond . does it matter that he richmond. does it matter that he does he's busy man. yes does this? he's a busy man. yes it's at his own expense . it's it's at his own expense. it's good that that's added, because if it were the taxpayer if it were at the taxpayer expense, the bigger issue. but of course , it's the hypocrisy
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of course, it's the hypocrisy because hand, he's because at one hand, he's preaching the world's on preaching to us. the world's on fire, the planet is going to burn. we need to stay at burn. we all need to stay at home not drive our cars and home and not drive our cars and not go on holidays and not eat meat. and we're just getting lectured children whole meat. and we're just getting lecturand children whole meat. and we're just getting lecturand the hildren whole meat. and we're just getting lecturand the people whole meat. and we're just getting lecturand the people who nhole meat. and we're just getting lecturand the people who are le time. and the people who are lecturing are behaving in a lecturing us are behaving in a completely and completely different way. and it's hypocritical . i'm it's just so hypocritical. i'm just with it. they treat us just done with it. they treat us like five year olds and then pretend they're the grown ups running doing what they running off and doing what they want yeah does it. does want to do. yeah does it. does it matter that it suggests that he's touch the. he's not in touch with the. well, working party? the well, good working party? the thing so you thing is, it's out there. so you have you always way this up. have to you always way this up. what about this show is what i love about this show is you both sides, whatever our you put both sides, whatever our own views we agree on. so own views and we agree on. so much, we invent controversy. much, we can invent controversy. it taken them 2 hours it would have taken them 2 hours and 50 by train. it's and 50 minutes by train. it's a very train service. very regular train service. he would it's much more would argue that it's much more efficient of his time. he's efficient use of his time. he's probably busy and obsolete, right? taking taxpayers right? he's not taking taxpayers money was, oh, money because there was, oh, how dare money? it is dare you spend our money? it is his finance . so more his own finance. so to be more efficient, i mean, working on the helicopter and so on and so forth, you on that stuff. forth, you work on that stuff. but you have to
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but there is the you have to deal the hypocrisy about deal with the hypocrisy about the get this the climate and you get this anybody turns out and says, anybody who turns out and says, we're travelling from here to here is going to be raised in that of issues. yeah. so that sort of issues. yeah. so you address that. so the you need to address that. so the pr always boils down pr people, it always boils down to you just turn, to communication. you just turn, i this is going to come out i say this is going to come out just to what truss said, just as to what liz truss said, all bits and pieces, it's all the bits and pieces, it's going some time. you going to come out some time. you should address this it should address this before it does then on that sort does and then work on that sort of basis. so the same way as you, well, you'll prada wonderful in the council wonderful loafers in the council estate out so estate is going to come out so you to work out how do we you need to work out how do we deal with it and i always say but they surround themselves with communication experts, but sometimes should to sometimes they should listen to those get those experts as to how they get that across. yeah, that message across. yeah, because i don't resent because i don't i don't resent if spending his own money if he's spending his own money and he to get around more and he wants to get around more quickly. with that. quickly. i'm okay with that. i genuinely all right with genuinely am all right with that. but i'm you. so what? that. but i'm with you. so what? i is the notion that i can't abide is the notion that we live in 50 minute we all must live in 50 minute neighbourhoods, low neighbourhoods, so have low traffic neighbourhoods so i can't the main can't turn left off the main road get to my house because road to get to my house because it's going to ruin the planet apparently. but he can
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helicopter and down from helicopter up and down from london to yorkshire whenever he likes. and more people likes. and more and more people waking this the waking up to this thing, the idea them and us, yes, are idea of them and us, yes, we are very much importance . it is very much importance. it is because there are so many people , many distractions , there are so many distractions in world. every time in the world. i mean, every time i a story on harry and i look at a story on harry and meghan or love island or netflix or it's guys, or whatever, it's like, guys, those just distraction those are just the distraction phones. you know, in old phones. you know, in the old world sort of the world they'll be sort of the stocks village green that stocks on the village green that the for the the entertainment for the peasants where the peasants they just more us to be just want more of us to be peasants. every time see peasants. and every time i see that kind thing or some that kind of thing or some complete non—story dominating for what they for ten days, what are they trying from? trying to distract us from? yeah, because so much yeah, because there's so much going the world the going on in the world at the moment is a lot of people moment and it is a lot of people have had their eyes opened over the last few years and are challenging narrative in challenging the narrative in ways never done ways that they've never done before just more before and that's just far more important. people important. so the more people that a story like that that look at a story like that and say, do you know what? it does matter? it's not just about the what is the the helicopter. what is the bigger that's going on bigger issue that's going on here? course, it's the here? and of course, it's the hypocrisy and we're being hypocrisy and how we're being lectured don't to lectured and we don't want to
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anymore. like we're anymore. and it feels like we're living in a time of immense division, andrew division, doesn't it? andrew we've divided over we've never been so divided over so and it feels like so many issues and it feels like we have always be forced to we have to always be forced to entrench ourselves binary entrench ourselves in a binary position something. you're position with something. you're absolutely think absolutely right. and i think that's biggest thing, that's been the biggest thing, whether a vax or anti—vax whether it's a vax or anti—vax or it's devolution on or whether it's devolution on lockdown anti travel lockdown didn't seem anti travel that agree we that press freedom to agree we could what i love joe could go on what i love and joe biden i said this before joe biden i said this before joe biden missed a trick when in his campaign joe biden an campaign because joe biden is an anagram joined and in a anagram of be joined and in a world which divided that's world which is so divided that's the message. but you're right the message. but you're right the juxtaposition of riches to not worth what is it, 730 million, mainly from his wife and. oh, no, she's worth more than she's worth a billion, which is what she's. all right . which is what she's. all right. well, i have no problem substantively, but what you have to look at is the juxtaposition with people who are on the streets turning around and saying it's heating or heating, that's your choice. and that's why i say it goes down to communication. we want people to be success. well, because that's aspirational in america. we want that's happens. people turn
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that's what happens. people turn around, celebrate success around, they celebrate success in country. we sometimes in this country. we sometimes resent it. and think that resent it. and i think that narrative needs to change. but at time, we need to be at the same time, we need to be sensitive to people and the things they're feeling. and things that they're feeling. and maybe once the green revolution is enacted, rishi sunak put is enacted, rishi sunak will put down will down his helicopter, and he will he will go on a high advice he will also go on a high advice to my but to the rest of my uncle. but normal lives again , it's not normal lives again, it's not like is it? it's not. no, it's not going to happen. you'll be still flying around a helicopter when we're all in all high bikes. now, it is the biggest day of strikes in the health service. so stick with we'll service. so stick with us. we'll bnng service. so stick with us. we'll bring you the latest on that bring you all the latest on that after morning's with . after this morning's news with. tamsin bell. thank you and good morning from the gb newsroom. it's 1032, more than a thousand it's1032, more than a thousand people have been killed after a huge earthquake struck south eastern turkey. the 7.8 magnitude quake hit an area near the border with syria, causing widespread destruction in both countries . local officials say
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countries. local officials say more than 5000 people have also been injured and that the death toll is likely to rise. rescue teams are frantically searching through the rubble for survivors . now thousands of nurses and ambulance staff in england and some in wales are striking with today predicted to be the largest walk out in the history of the nhs , the royal college of of the nhs, the royal college of nursing will stage a two day strike in a dispute over pay and is expected to be joined by twice as many of its members as it did during earlier strikes. ambulance crews and call handlers will return to work on tuesday, but then due to walk out again on friday. health minister maria caulfield says it's not affordable to meet the union's demands. we followed an independent process with a pay review body. the union signed up to and were very happy with the settlement last year and it's difficult for us now if we are to give a paywall to nurses. we'll have to look at teachers, we'll have to look at ambulance drivers. know, we just have
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drivers. you know, we just have to we just can't afford inflation busting rises that inflation busting pay rises that the unions are currently demanding . the unions are currently demanding. gmb the unions are currently demanding . gmb regional demanding. gmb regional organiser diane ferguson told gb news they are striking to save the nhs long term. we believe the nhs long term. we believe the money is in the pot but obviously we're asking them to distribute it to the workers first. obviously that will put more money year on year into the nhs and they have to because they inflation requires that . they inflation requires that. ultimately it doesn't seem to come down to the frontline workers and that's where we will not need to be. and it's not just about pay, it's about the condition and that these guys are working under and we want a long term strategy to save the nhs for everybody . the head of nhs for everybody. the head of epsom college has been found dead alongside her husband and her seven year old daughter. the bodies , emma pattinson daughter bodies, emma pattinson daughter , letty and husband george were found at the prestigious boarding school in the early hours of sunday morning . surrey hours of sunday morning. surrey police are investigating but say they're confident it's an
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isolated incident with no third party involvement . tv online and party involvement. tv online and dab+ radio. this is.
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gb news. very good morning. it's monday morning at 1037. this is bev turner today on gb news. now the biggest day of strikes in nhs history begins this morning as nurses across england and wales stage a 12 hour strike over pay and conditions. but strikes are set to follow later in the week, with a physiotherapy set to walk out as well. meanwhile ambulance workers also taking workers are also taking industrial action in. their dispute over pay and. yorkshire and humber reports are unavailable as a castleford ambulance station in west
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yorkshire . good morning, anna. yorkshire. good morning, anna. what are you hearing down there 7 what are you hearing down there ? good morning, betty . yes, ? good morning, betty. yes, well, there is a lot of frustration amongst ambulance workers, the striking, overpaid at the striking over conditions as well. and it's a gmb union picket line here. i'm joined by steve machida . he's a specialist steve machida. he's a specialist paramedic work here. steve it's not just the pay is it's the conditions as well. yes, absolutely . so, you know, we've absolutely. so, you know, we've got ambulances stacked outside the hospitals . listening to the the hospitals. listening to the radio is going off shouting up for category one emergencies, which, for example , if which, for example, if somebody's not breathing, suddenly cpr , asking if people suddenly cpr, asking if people can come clear and what's outside, where. and because the hospitals are simply full. and how does that feel ? frustrating how does that feel? frustrating you know , it's out there and it you know, it's out there and it could easily be one of my family members or all live in yorkshire. it could easily get in their staff, family members.
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and even if it's nice, we're not what we do on the job far to be outside of hospital, not able to respond to these jobs which you know they need a seven minute response just able response and we're just not able to in the current to meet that in the current conditions. and this concerns over recruitment isn't over recruitment as well. isn't that future ambulance that to get future ambulance stuff workforce ? so stuff into the workforce? so i think more retention think it's more retention than recruitment. simply recruitment. so we can't simply can't it. we're losing can't replace it. we're losing and are other employers offering back conditions that staff back conditions that our staff are well qualified , very are very well qualified, very professional that are professional people that are in demand various sectors , demand across various sectors, not just the health sector. and we find that people are then wanting go these jobs that wanting to go these jobs that either better or simply have either pay better or simply have better conditions here, that workers and what is it like with the cost of living as well ? you the cost of living as well? you know, what would you think a fair pay rise would be? and i'm not personal from my personal perspective. do want personally an inflation based increase? yeah cos i do. but i'm a reasonable person , as are the reasonable person, as are the people behind me or all my colleagues. and i think so long
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as it came somewhere towards me in inflation and helping us meet our know the gas and our costs, you know the gas and electric the the food electric and the fuel, the food costs , all these things that costs, all these things that have gone up exponentially and then i think, you know, reasonable people and me personally as a gmb will be encouraging, you personally as a gmb will be encouraging , you know, the encouraging, you know, the senior organisers have discussions with the government about getting somewhere in between . and what do you think between. and what do you think though, when the government are saying this, just not this morning, know, are the morning, you know, are the strikes do anything? strikes going to do anything? i mean? i'm not a politician . i mean? i'm not a politician. i appreciate there's a budget for government and you know, employers all have a budget . employers all have a budget. however, we waste billions and billions of pounds on pay . and, billions of pounds on pay. and, you know, the tory are not particularly well known for spending the money wisely . they spending the money wisely. they tend to say there's no money in the pot, yet they hand out willy nilly to two benefactors that , nilly to two benefactors that, you know, contribute to the pie . so i say there is money in the pot. they just don't want to spend it because the scottish government have found money, the
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welsh government now finding welsh government are now finding money pay. why money and talking about pay. why is and steve is it that rishi sunak and steve barclay find money? the barclay can't find money? the westminster must have the most spending power the three spending power of all the three nations. why are not nations. so why are we not talking? and do you think you've got the public behind? you know, people have been too the people have been too in the homes they've been going past homes as they've been going past this what would this picket line. but what would you that might be you say to people that might be critical, know, critical, saying, you know, you should doing your job, should be out doing your job, you shouldn't be striking? i would contest that point quite strongly because on strike days, we've seen that actually our service can be effective at responding to life threatening emergencies. we still going emergencies. we are still going out. we are still responding and have responding the have been responding across the patch and we've been getting to those patients quickly and on time. example, on the time. and as an example, on the first strike, they we were all stood here. we're in forjust to stood here. we're in for just to come in and down the road just behind me, there was a cardiac arrest, which is where someone is not breathing. and obviously we scene within minutes we were on scene within minutes on day after there. on the day after strike there. we now again for we were shouting now again for category emergencies. are category one emergencies. are people breathing that we people not breathing that we
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just respond to? we just couldn't respond to? and we all we don't get there all know if we don't get there quick happens? but quick enough, what happens? but we to have a on we are going to have a enough on strike days. it just shows strike days. and it just shows when folks hours does when we folks aka 2 hours does that need it, then we're that most need it, then we're able to respond properly. and as we were built today wasn't emergency service we're emergency service not what we're currently to with. currently having to deal with. thank you much thank you. thank you so much for sharing with this sharing that with us this morning on gb news. so yeah morning on on gb news. so yeah it's it's conditions. there it's pay it's conditions. there are days set go are more strike days set to go ahead they ambulance union's ahead if they ambulance union's can't come to an agreement with the government overpay and over conditions . thank you anna on conditions. thank you anna on a rally . they're up in the rally. they're up in the castleford station in west yorkshire . right. you've been yorkshire. right. you've been getting in touch. the vaping inc story clearly touched a nerve. lots of you agreeing with me. diana says, i've got a 14 year old grandson who vapes. you're right, it is a huge problem, sarah said. i've got two boys, 18 and 22, who both vape. i've been training successfully to find out how to recycle these as i was. imagine most are going to landfill designed for one use. they lithium, plastic they contain lithium, plastic and going through. and metal they're going through.
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so them. tony says, i'm a 58 so of them. tony says, i'm a 58 year old male. smoked since year old male. i've smoked since i i stopped this year i was 14. i stopped this year using a vape. well done, tony. however, i agree that the brightly coloured sweet flavours need . they're clearly need to stop. they're clearly being children , being marketed to children, cowell horrified to cowell said. i'm horrified to see kids everywhere cowell said. i'm horrified to s go. kids everywhere cowell said. i'm horrified to s go. i kids everywhere cowell said. i'm horrified to sgo. i can't ds everywhere cowell said. i'm horrified to sgo. i can't imagine everywhere cowell said. i'm horrified to s go. i can't imagine the arywhere cowell said. i'm horrified to sgo. i can't imagine the damage i go. i can't imagine the damage they're doing. why was it ever allowed? like i say, i think it's a story that gets nowhere near the amount of attention that should take right? my that it should take right? my panel still dr. zoe panel is still here. dr. zoe harkin is me and andrew harkin is with me and andrew e bone, futurist, brain bone, futurist, mega brain lawyer. hey, i'll pick up the back dead raconteur. back of brain dead raconteur. i thank you all. so this is a really interesting piece about medical ethics. it's in the guardian today, written by hilary osborne and she's talking aboutin hilary osborne and she's talking about in this that she she had the to test work out what how happens to would be to having breast cancer and said that only 5 to 10% of breast cancers are believed to be hereditary. her risk is that by the age of 80, she has a 70% chance of getting breast cancer for the most people in the population , women, people in the population, women, the chances are just 12 to 13.
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and she said with the mutation that she carries, she's got a 50% chance of passing onto my children. now that we have , i'm children. now that we have, i'm a in knowledge. a great believer in knowledge. is power, particularly when it comes to health. you've comes to your health. you've dedicated last few years of dedicated the last few years of your this topic in terms your life to this topic in terms of public health, do i want to know ? this is the question. what know? this is the question. what i really want to know if i had the predisposition to a life limiting disease or do i want to live happily in blissful ignorance? i think you've ask the perfect question because some people will want to know, and some want to know. so and some people want to know. so it to compulsory it needs to be never compulsory . it needs to be never that we are tested routinely at a certain age and then you've got your profile for the rest of your profile for the rest of your life. we are developing the skills able to this and skills to be able to do this and i'm my learned friend is i'm sure my learned friend is going to be able to elaborate on those, but we will have the skills profile people a skills to profile people from a very to very young age. we need to understand the consequences. so once piece of once you've got that piece of information, going information, what are you going to about and if you've to do about it? and if you've got piece of information
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got a piece of information saying that your blood pressure is you can cut your is too high, you can cut your carb intake, get more carb intake, you can get more exercise, can lose weight, exercise, you can lose weight, you some positive you can do some very positive things. you going to do things. what are you going to do when you get this? how are you going to get insurance? how are you manage your health you going to manage your health throughout the rest of your life? are the kind of person life? are you the kind of person that would live positively with that would live positively with that proactive that knowledge and do proactive things? the kind of things? or are you the kind of person that live with person that would live with a death and feel that you death sentence and feel that you didn't that after didn't want to know that after all? see, this is i think all? you see, this is i think many, many of us will remember where when heard this where we were when we heard this conversation in i'll remember where we were. this where we were. we had this conversation because for me, you're the futurist. you can still bowl. can work this still bowl. you can work this out. this is future out. andrew this is the future of health care. and as know, of health care. and as you know, i've this very chair i've sat on this very chair speaking you about the power speaking to you about the power of information that of ai and the information that we're to get, we're now going to get, combining artificial intelligence, which basically prevention cure. prevention is better than cure. knowledge it is not knowledge is power. it is not just patient you very just the patient you raise. very important issue insurance. important issue about insurance. now you know that now if suddenly you know that you're to these you're more likely to get these diseases, what's going to happen to your insurance and so on and
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so forth, because the insurance companies to know that companies will want to know that information they calculate information when they calculate the say, the risk. but i always say, look, information power. the look, information is power. the advance seismic advances that advance is seismic advances that beenin advance is seismic advances that been in medicine fuelled to a great extent by artificial intelligence . he was doctor intelligence. he was a doctor you have on your desk you could have on your desk access everybody of research access to everybody of research that ever that was so that when a patient presents themselves with certain symptoms you can predict sort likely predict what sort of likely diseases they may have, what sort of particular things need to treated. you're going to be treated. you're going to have more as a result have much more power as a result of that i assist with that of that. i can assist with that sort process. but are sort of process. but you are right, it choice you then right, it is a choice you then turn on. it's your choice , which turn on. it's your choice, which is the great question you ask at the is do you want to the beginning, is do you want to know you've one man, know that you've got one man, it's navel, you've got to it's a navel, you've got to hurry up with my life? or do you want to turn on just live your life in due to full ignorance? the now you go, it's the latter. now you go, but it's your i think it's a lot your choice. i think it's a lot to. what you to know to. what would you want to know 7 to. what would you want to know ? i would want to know ? i think i would want to know what did my life every day. what i did my life every day. i long to come. told this show is brilliant i think because also
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prevent shame better than prevent shame is better than cure. i think what like zoe was saying, can do i can do a bit saying, i can do i can do a bit of exercise every day. i can try and look after my mental health by for the art walk and by going for the art walk and have a glass of wine. hey i can eat healthily . have a glass of wine. hey i can eat healthily. i have a glass of wine. hey i can eat healthily . i try have a glass of wine. hey i can eat healthily. i try and get eat healthily. i can try and get balance my life. i want to balance in my life. i want to control the controllables though. i think that's what i'm saying. don't want to be saying. and i don't want to be ladened and beset and ladened down and beset and worried something worried about something that i may be to control. how may not be able to control. how about is would you behave about you? is would you behave differently this morning if you if had this piece of if you had this piece of information? i don't think i would want to know , because kind would want to know, because kind of you, i do all the things of like you, i do all the things that i do i do the that i can do anyway. i do the exercise i eat. right. well, the rest i'm doing what i rest of it, i'm doing what i can. so if then had can. so if i then had a diagnosis that said, hey, i didn't have genetically, so didn't have it genetically, so l, didn't have it genetically, so i, didn't know. i haven't i, i didn't know. i haven't got the with breast cancer the aunt with the breast cancer gene the mountain, which is gene in the mountain, which is what hillary's this what hillary's got in this article. say it just article. but let's say it just it came out at some test 18 actually. you do have a propensity to breast cancer and, your to die in your your high likely to die in your sixties. okay. you make some sixties. okay. you can make some good stop to a
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good choices. you stop to a pension. stupid of money, pension. so stupid of money, just life. don't wait just enjoy your life. don't wait for retirement and for the retirement and the bucket sort live bucket list. just sort of live it now. that would be borne it now. but that would be borne to knowing that information. another attitude be another attitude would be that you're death you're living with death sentence, that you have this thing over you whole thing hanging over you the whole time i'm never going time of, gosh, i'm never going to it to and that's the to make it to 60. and that's the assumption, though, it? assumption, though, isn't it? because talking because we're talking about you have what i'm have a death sentence. what i'm talking is the wider talking about is the wider picture, where actually knowing that can make which that you can make changes which could likelihood of could alter the likelihood of that sentence. that death sentence. so prevention better than prevention being better than cure, the doctors have the power to turn around and say you're likely if you don't make these changes treat you changes or we don't treat you now develop something which changes or we don't treat you now killvelop something which changes or we don't treat you now kill youp something which changes or we don't treat you now kill you and nething which changes or we don't treat you now kill you and yowing which changes or we don't treat you now kill you and you make1ich could kill you and you make those changes that would save your life. and that's got to be good, hasn't it? don't know. it depend. no, i don't think i would, because think. well any would, because i think. well any any i was put on some any drug if i was put on some sort of long term drug to perhaps minimise my risk of getting particularly ill from something to something i was predisposed to every with a every drug comes with a potential effects and it potential side effects and it might be the side effects might be that the side effects from drug would been from that drug would have been worse maybe 30 healthy
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worse than maybe the 30 healthy light i would have had light years i would have had living drinking living free, right. and drinking my wine without my glass of wine without thinking. have this thinking. i can't have this because instead because i have a pencil instead of. i i see what you mean. of. i see. i see what you mean. but you talk the risks of drugs and grades news again this week again on artificial intelligence every like massive every day is news like massive sort artificial sort of advocate for artificial intelligence . there's a deal intelligence. there's a deal which done between the which is being done between the university and university of sheffield and i know you've got your views and we talk about that in a bit, but they can make drugs more effective. so they're doing tests a lot quicker as a result of intelligence, of artificial intelligence, and they're better they're getting much better results. so the short answer is absolutely, question absolutely, it's a question of choice, going to choice, but is it going to change lifestyle? is it change your lifestyle? is it going change the going to change it for the better? you feel as though better? or do you feel as though you're living in a death sentence and who's entitled to know it may be your know because it may be your relative who may want to relative who may not want to know. won't be. it won't know. and it won't be. it won't be in the end, that's be a choice. in the end, that's what robot soul what you and your robot soul mates, and your robot army mates, you and your robot army coming i want you coming to my future. i want you will do is make it obligatory the insurance will say, the insurance company will say, well, you have this well, unless you have this test, ms. turner, to out if ms. turner, to find out if you're to lose your
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you're going to lose your eyesight your in fifties eyesight in your in your fifties , i'm not to give you , i'm not going to give you insurance. you're absolutely insurance. i i you're absolutely right. i always say that the best to predict the future best way to predict the future is make so. yes, we will is to make it so. yes, we will turn give element of turn round, give the element of choice, make informed choice, but make informed decisions. can turn and decisions. if i can turn and say, look, i can save you, do you want to know? i can tell you want to know? or i can tell you want to know? or i can tell you you've got two to you you've got two weeks to live. do want to know? live. do you want to know? is very interesting. know very interesting. let me know what think at home, because what you think at home, because i think it's fascinating i do think it's a fascinating medical ethical dilemma gb medical ethical dilemma that gb views the email views at gbnews.uk is the email right? jk rowling. this is this is bbc actually. it's a is the bbc actually. it's a story the as much as story about the bbc as much as it is about j.k. rowling and trans a radio four trans issues. there a radio four interview evan davis. interview hosted by evan davis. you know he was you will know him. he was newsnight works on on the newsnight and he works on on the today programme. i think. very so. bbc news outlets and he so. the bbc news outlets and he did an interview with a trans woman who a stacey henley is her name and she said that she made a sort of a slightly flippant comment about j.k. rowling and saying , well, you know, she's saying, well, you know, she's transphobic. obviously, she would say that she's transphobic . and the and evan davies didn't
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try to defend provide any sort of balance while funny times were living in. so when we are incredibly careful on this channel, we're always very careful to have balance and proportional stories handled properly . and yet the bbc can properly. and yet the bbc can sort of get away with this kind of thing without barely a rap on the knuckles, particularly this topic . i the knuckles, particularly this topic. i think the knuckles, particularly this topic . i think they've got topic. i think they've got previous some very i mean, i actually cancel my licence back in 2020 because when the covid thing hit i just found it was one narrative. it was a narrative affair, it was a narrative affair, it was a narrative of scaring people. it was not a narrative of reassuring people. it's actually quite painful to watch. and you were you're much in were very you're very much in evidence research . right. so evidence led research. right. so they evidence they weren't asking the evidence based test came based questions when a test came out. weren't saying, out. they weren't saying, is this good who invented this a good test? who invented test? inventor of the test? did the inventor of the test? did the inventor of the test that this was a good test say that this was a good test say that this was a good test for finding out things we saw in what can put saw in data? what can we put it in perspective? so we've just put up 400 people die today. should the that should we remind the public that 1700 every day in the 1700 people die every day in the uk? made that
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uk? so you you made that political statement by cancelling bbc . de—funded cancelling your bbc. i de—funded the because they have not the bbc because they have not done journalism in the last couple of years, maybe not for a lot it's just i've lot longer. it's just i've noficed lot longer. it's just i've noticed couple of noticed it in the couple of years they've not been balanced and this clearly they and in this quite clearly they were not balanced and they have to balanced, they to be balanced, they have a obugafion to be balanced, they have a obligation to be balanced. that's are publicly that's why they are publicly funded are forced to pay funded and we are forced to pay . irony i would be . in fact, the irony i would be forced my bbc licence forced to pay for my bbc licence to watch gb news. so i watch gb news on the app because i'm not going to watch it through the tv. you go there just before i did so we excellent app. excellent youtube coverage. you need your licence fee for that. but what is it about this particular trans issue seems particularly jk particularly relations jk rowling again, it's one of those conversations which been conversations which has been done and had and she is transphobic and that suits and even can so i don't even the bbc can say so i don't think it is interest the bbc think it is interest and the bbc spokesperson, said it's spokesperson, unnamed said it's a and contentious a very difficult and contentious area very hard area which you do try very hard to fairly. however, we to cover fairly. however, we should challenge the claims should of challenge the claims more directly, we apologise that we so what this story
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we did not. so what this story is not about is rolling as is not about and is rolling as in bolling that's how she pronounce his name is a revelation you revelation for everyone. you mean i say rowling well, you can say, how do do the best say, how do you do the best impersonation of accents i've ever it's all ever heard? so we know it's all right. will know forever right. we will know forever more. wonder more. people always wonder the debates. i came debates. i checked before i came on i like to do the on here. i like to do the research and j.k. rowling rhyming got it. but rhyming in bowling. got it. but j.k. said in an j.k. herself said in an interview, what when she interview, what the when she goes the states , they talk goes to the states, they talk about also about howling. so they also called rowling over called herj.k. rowling over there. it is rolling, as in there. but it is rolling, as in bowling. but she's had a hard time. very hard time. she's had a very hard time. she's had a very hard time. and think as just say time. and i think as just say question everything but the story is not her views. story is not about her views. the is about balance at the story is about balance at the bbc and the bbc recognised that on this very contentious area they did not on this particular instance , provide particular instance, provide that balanced . what i love about that balanced. what i love about your show and many other shows on this wonderful channel is that we have multiple views but also provide that balance that's what we have to do for ofcom rules anyway absolute. no, i couldn't agree more and i think, you know, the fact that this has
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made it into the paper, the bbc were forced to apologise. good. so you show j.k. rolling rowling wasn't defend herself, wasn't there to defend herself, so should done so somebody should have done that just briefly, that for now. just very briefly, guys, to your thoughts on guys, i want to your thoughts on this broke this big story that broke yesterday. truss, this essay yesterday. liz truss, this essay for thousand words in which she made the story made her side of the story public. did you make of it, public. what did you make of it, zoe? you have more sympathy zoe? did you have more sympathy for this? you for her reading this? do you think was hounded out all think she was hounded out by all the in suits? i do think the blokes in suits? i do think she was hounded out and i found a tweet this morning that somebody follow twitter and somebody i follow on twitter and i that many people. i don't follow that many people. but called lord but there's a chap called lord cruddas, conservative peer. hey he on the 2nd of he may not abide on the 2nd of august 22. going to be interesting to see how the 1922 cabal get their man, rishi over the winning line despite truss being the leading contender , being the leading contender, they will succeed . and i they will succeed. and i remember when she was appointed because it was almost whoever was going to be up against where she was going to get through. if it was penny, was going to be it was penny, it was going to be penny, if it was lacey, it was going to be liz. and i remember looking that tweet and
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looking at that tweet and i tagged it i thought well, tagged it and i thought well, okay, know, didn't get okay, you know, he didn't get that but that was that one right. but that was quite 40 days quite interesting. 40 days later, right. i do think later, he was right. i do think she was hounded out. i do think there was a desire at higher levels. i think what we witnessed late summer, witnessed autumn, late summer, autumn, a autumn, quite frankly, was a coup. had an elected coup. yeah we had an elected leader was deposed by leader who was deposed by somebody who then became prime minister. an minister. there was just an interim along way. is that interim along the way. is that how you see, i think the how you see, andrew? i think the point that there are always two sides recollection that may sides of recollection that may vary, as people say. and i was fascinated without name dropping. a on dropping. i was at a party on tuesday night. one of the people in the party was somebody called jonathan you not jonathan issawi, who you may not know, gave me his card. know, but he gave me his card. is press secretary from the is the press secretary from the office truss, the what's office of liz truss, the what's happening there should be steve so we spoke about what he was saying , said she's going to put saying, said she's going to put her side to the story. that's exactly what's going to happen. that's going to be a report on that today. what is interesting is when she was at the conservative party conference on the 5th of october 2022, you
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remember her choice of song, which is moving on up from people . and if you look at the people. and if you look at the lyrics of that, you've done me wrong. time is up. you took wrong. your time is up. you took a sip the devil's cup. a sip from the devil's cup. well, so she got it wrong . she well, so she got it wrong. she shouldn't that song and shouldn't picked that song and i know mike pickering, who wrote it, objected. did it, objected. he did. he did write. that is the end of our first hour. it has flown by. thank and zoe, for thank you, andrew and zoe, for now. and after a quick break, i'm going to be crossing up to lancashire to the latest on lancashire to get the latest on this story missing this awful story of the missing mother walking her dog, mother who is walking her dog, nicola the search nicola polly. the search is ramping group of private ramping as a group of private divers to join police divers are set to join a police search to her. we'll be search to find her. we'll be right back with the very latest on after this short break. on that after this short break. i'm and this is your i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met sunny out met office. a sunny one out there many , it is turning there for many, it is turning cloudier across parts of scotland northern ireland, scotland and northern ireland, but most of us will stay dry. and the reason why. big and here's the reason why. big fat high pressure fat area of high pressure sitting over us and that will dominate our weather for the next few days. there is a weather front approaching the northwest and the ice about to squeeze in together here as
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well. is turning breezy. well. so it is turning breezy. we see a little bit of light we may see a little bit of light rain over the western isles at times, but otherwise it's dry. but more clouds spilling into scotland northern in scotland and northern out in particular west, but particular into the west, but hazy eastern hazy sunshine across eastern scotland for most scotland and certainly for most of is dry , it's of england, wales is dry, it's bright. it's not particularly warm, but temperatures are close to average, 7 to 9 celsius after what was a fairly frosty start to the day. we will see a little bit more rain coming in this evening into the northwest. whether if what we saw earlier just edging way down towards just edging its way down towards the highlands by the time we get towards midnight, further south, clear and cold, frosty, and there'll be a bit more fog around, i suspect tonight compared to last night across parts of south wales, the south midlands and southern england, minus two, minus three. that's townsend cities. whereas further north cloud , more north with more cloud, more breeze, as here breeze, it won't be as here we'll be a little bit grey and damp across the west of northern ireland and the highlands. first thing on tuesday morning, that band of thick of cloud, the old spot of drizzle, trying to push
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woods for england. wales will have that fog could a while have that fog could take a while to certainly likely to to clear certainly likely to stick through rush stick around through the rush hour dry fine and hour but then it's dry fine and sunny day, perhaps a little cloudier over northern england. and cloud, of course, and thicker cloud, of course, southern scotland and northern ireland that ireland from what was that weather but it's really weather from. but it's really fizzling as it pushes fizzling out as it pushes southwards. the old southwards. maybe the old spot of drizzle there during of drizzle here and there during tuesday southwest tuesday evening or southwest scotland. again, we'll see that frost coming back across the south as we head into wednesday morning. the rest of the week, largely dry , but turning a largely dry, but turning a little cloudier and slowly turning a little milder as well
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very good morning. welcome back to bev turner. stay on gb news tv dab radio before midday. we'll get more updates on the ongoing search for nicola foley as a special diving team is set to be deployed in a search for the 45 year old mother of two. it's also another day of strikes. today, england and wales. this time gmb ambulance staff are staging their first a four days of strikes in february and march pay. i'll bring and march over pay. i'll bring you the latest that. and you the very latest on that. and if might turn a price award if i might turn a price award today, not for art, but for standing up for what believe standing up for what you believe in. to be honouring co in. i'm going to be honouring co co—founder them, the co—founder of us for them, the campaign group molly kingsley and her efforts to tackle covid misinformed fashion. that's all coming after. look at the coming up after. look at the latest news . good morning from latest news. good morning from the gb news room. i'm tamsin roberts. it's 11:01. the gb news room. i'm tamsin roberts. it's11:01. more than 1000 people are dead and thousands more injured after a huge earthquake struck southeastern turkey. the 7.8
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magnitude quake hit an area near the border with syria, causing widespread destruction in both countries . rescue teams are countries. rescue teams are frantically searching through the rubble for survivors . the rubble for survivors. turkish president erdogan described the quake as the worst disaster to hit turkey since one of the same magnitude struck . in of the same magnitude struck. in december 1939 . now, thousands of december 1939. now, thousands of nurses and ambulance staff in england and some in wales are striking , as today is predicted striking, as today is predicted to be the largest walk out of the history of the nhs. the royal college of nursing will stage a two day strike in a dispute overpay, ambulance crews and call handlers will return to work tuesday but are then due to walk out again on friday. health minister maria caulfield says it's not affordable to meet the demands. we followed an independent process with a pay review body. the unions signed up to and were very happy with the settlement last year and it's difficult for us now if we
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are to give a payable to nurses, we'll have look at teachers. we have to look at ambulance drivers. you know, we just have to we just can't afford inflation busting pay rises that the unions are currently demanding . general secretary of demanding. general secretary of the royal college of nursing pat cullen's says the government are punishing nurses , deserve and punishing nurses, deserve and need a decent pay rise that will boost the economy, not damage the economy because nurses spend their local communities. so every nhs worker, including our nurses , deserve a decent pay nurses, deserve a decent pay rise and here we are in a situation today where this government has chosen to the nurses of england instead of getting rid of table and talking to me about pay and the same way as they've done in west and in scotland. today marks the 16th and final strike day for teachers in scotland who walked out in a dispute over pay . teachers in scotland who walked out in a dispute overpay. but out in a dispute over pay. but more walkouts are on the horizon as there's been no agreement between the teaching unions and holyrood . the unions are holyrood. the unions are demanding a 10% rise for their
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members , but the scottish members, but the scottish government has only offered a 5% increase. the head of epsom college has been found dead alongside her husband and her seven year old daughter. the bodies , emma pattinson, her bodies, emma pattinson, her daughter lettie and husband george were found at the prestigious boarding school in the early hours of sunday morning . surrey police are morning. surrey police are investigating but say they're confident it's an isole incident with no third party involvement . a private underwater rescue company have begun their. . a private underwater rescue company have begun their . search company have begun their. search for nicola polly , the specialist for nicola polly, the specialist diving company sgi have been brought in to assist police in searching the river wyre after ms. bulli vanished over a week ago. police believe the 45 year old fell in the river, but her family and friends have questioned that , saying there's questioned that, saying there's still no evidence . it's after still no evidence. it's after new cctv pictures were released from the day she disappeared, which showed the mother of two loading her car before driving
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her two children to school . her two children to school. format that a police officer david carrick is due to be sentenced at southern crown court today . carrick admitted to court today. carrick admitted to 24 counts of rape as well as charges of sexual assault. control and coercive behaviour and false imprisonment. he's accused of carrying out the attacks on a dozen women over an 18 year period while serving as a officer. the 48 year old is due to be sentenced the course of two days. the princess of wales has urged schoolchildren to keep talking their feelings as she the start of children's mental health week. kate joined pupils in london's east end, raising the of being open with feelings . this after she feelings. this after she launched her shaping us campaign last week, which raises the profile of the early years development of children . beyonce development of children. beyonce has become the most decorated grammy artist of all. the
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american singer picked up her 32nd award at this year ceremony. she won the best dance electronic music album for her latest release , renaissance. the latest release, renaissance. the biggest gong album of the year went to british star harry styles for his third album, harry's . styles for his third album, harry's. house. this is gb news. more from me shortly. now, though, it's back to beth . though, it's back to beth. ferry. good morning. you are watching and listening to beth tennis today on tv news. here's what's up on the show this hour. the search remains ongoing for 45 year old nicola bailey. the search remains ongoing for 45 year old nicola bailey . a 45 year old nicola bailey. a special diving team will join the efforts to find the missing dog walker . it follows a new dog walker. it follows a new cctv footage showing her movements about an hour before she disappeared . elsewhere today
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she disappeared. elsewhere today , nurses and ambulance workers across england and wales are striking over and conditions. nhs leaders describe . this as nhs leaders describe. this as the biggest round of industrial action in its history. meanwhile, the general secretary at the rcn said the strikes will continue until the government listens to their demands. i'm going to be joined back in the studio by dr. zoe harkin and lawyer and futurist andrew abel in for another hour of the day's top stories . and of course, this top stories. and of course, this show is vastly improved with yourinput. show is vastly improved with your input . keep your views your input. keep your views coming in on the former pm, liz truss, which should give it enough time in our. email me gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news to have your say . gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news to have your say. this is we were just talking about j.k. rowling before the break and whether the bbc, well, they got their knuckles rapped for basically not correcting conversation, called the conversation, which called the transphobic. michael said, i thought was pro—women rather thought she was pro—women rather than transphobe says, than transphobe anthea says, personally, think j.k.
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personally, i don't think j.k. rowling was pushing an anti—trans agenda. just think anti—trans agenda. i just think she pushing women's rights. she is pushing women's rights. also, vaping has really lit your touch paper this morning, lucas said. i believe vape damage is a drop in the ocean compared to alcohol damage, but don't see anyone calling to ban or change alcohol sales. ian says. i'm a 35 year old man. i love sweet flavour vapes. it's not just the youth who enjoy the sweet flavours. keep your messages coming gbviews@gbnews.uk . so coming gbviews@gbnews.uk. so images of missing dog walker nicola bailey on the day of her parents have been shared by her friends. it's terrible story this and any mums like me i just can't stop thinking about this this poor woman and wherever she is the search is continuing for the 45 year old who was last seen by the river wyre, lancashire. for so more updates speak to our reporter sophie ripper, who there at the moment. good morning, sophie . any more good morning, sophie. any more news? i'm sure everybody watching and listening. this would looking for a glimmer of hope some sort of clue as to
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what might have happened to this woman . absolutely good morning woman. absolutely good morning to you. well, i can bring you a little bit of breaking news in the last few moments. sgi the independent search team who are joining the lancashire police in the search for nicola blake over shoulder, they've just been the boat with the specialist sonar equipment that they're going to be using to search the river. why? they've just been putting it into the water. i'm not sure if you'll be able to see that just down the embankment, but they're going be from they're going to be coming from here. we are just behind me. here. the we are just behind me. they're going to be coming from there and a specialist there and using a specialist sonar equipment to search the river and the specialists sonar equipment, they say with it, you'll be able to see every stick and stone on the head of sgi said that if there's a body in the river our sonar will detect it . now, as far as we detect it. now, as far as we know, it's going to start from here and continues around 12
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miles from this point to where the river wyre meets its estuary in the irish sea around fleetwood . although and although fleetwood. although and although it is 12 miles the head of sgi said that they should be able to get this search done within around a day, a day and a half. so although it's now the 10th day of searching, there is still hope that they'll be able to bnng hope that they'll be able to bring some new information in this case. so far what's what's the area like around there? we've seen images, some maps , we've seen images, some maps, which a lot of the newspapers have been running. if the geography of the is it very remote and deserted or is it quite close to main road where nicola went missing ? well, this nicola went missing? well, this area itself , st nicola went missing? well, this area itself, st michael's on wye, is quite deserted, as you say when you're approaching it seems that you're on country roads and then all of a sudden you're in the village where i am on the banks of the river. i'm a couple of minutes walk from the bench where believed nicola
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bailey was last seen and this is where the search will now from. but i mean in terms of the geography, it's very flat it's very beautiful. i must say , my very beautiful. i must say, my patch this is a very beautiful part of the world. but it's almost eerie . there's a real almost eerie. there's a real sense of an eerie silence near the bench where they believe she was last seen , which i think was last seen, which i think correct me if i'm wrong, sophie, but i think that was the word that nicola herself had used about the area on on messages to her friends on a social media post. said she posted post. she said she posted pictures quite walk pictures quite of the walk because is so beautiful and because it is so beautiful and said it could be a little eerie any more from the family and at the moment, sophie, i know they quite busy over the weekend talking to the media trying to keep this in everybody's well the plea the family sorry have been speaking to the media over the weekend but as of today we haven't anything from them yet although you are absolutely
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right the them, the family, the friends and of course the media, we are trying to keep this in people's minds. it's such a strange case. and i know for the family and friends and the people of st michael's on why we really just want to know what has happened . nicola bully and has happened. nicola bully and sophie just, just one more question for me. obviously the idea that nicola for some reason made her way into river, perhaps to retrieve a tennis ball, although family members have discounted that theory. and how how deep is the river in the area where she was? where her phone was left on the bench and the dog's harness is a deep piece of water. i'm not too of the topography of this part of the topography of this part of the world. but i will say someone told me this morning in parts the river wyre is around foot deep in the middle, although the area where they believe she was last seen near the bench, i'm not too sure how deepit the bench, i'm not too sure how deep it doesn't look. too deep. and but of course, as i'm sure lots of our viewers will know rivers very misleading,
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rivers often be very misleading, especially current especially in terms of current as although it may look especially in terms of current as smooth»ugh it may look especially in terms of current as smooth on1 it may look especially in terms of current as smooth on the may look especially in terms of current as smooth on the surfacek quite smooth on the surface beneath, we just don't know what's going okay, so what's going. okay, thanks so much. so sophie reaper that up in lancashire. awful stories and i really can't stop thinking about that poor lady and her children now the head of private school , some college has been school, some college has been found dead . her husband and found dead. her husband and seven year old daughter police say that the bodies of emma pattinson and her husband george and daughter lexi were at and daughter lexi were found at and daughter lexi were found at a private boarding school in the early of sunday early hours of sunday morning. surrey they are surrey police said that they are confident tragedy confident the tragedy is isolated and there is isolated incident and there is no third party involvement . our no third party involvement. our national reporter hawkins is there at epsom college. i believe, this morning. what's the latest, paul? what an extraordinary . yeah, really sad extraordinary. yeah, really sad story and the reaction full of words such as shocking, tragic , words such as shocking, tragic, etc. it's a very sombre atmosphere at some college . this atmosphere at some college. this is an independent school, 850
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pupils, the 72 acre site with multiple entrances, which are being overseen by security guards. as you can see behind me, wearing high, viz jackets and then police still have a presence on the site as well. they've been coming and going throughout morning just to throughout the morning just to give more detail, give you, a bit more detail, though, emma patterson , 45 though, about emma patterson, 45 years only became head years old, only became head teacher first female of teacher, first female head of epsom college five months ago . epsom college five months ago. both she and her husband, george , and their seven year old daughter were discovered in the early hours of sunday morning by.the early hours of sunday morning by. the emergency services and a police investigation is underway as to try and discover the circumstances that led to their death, as you say. surrey police have a statement saying that it is an isolated incident with no third party involvement in of the college itself . we've seen the college itself. we've seen pupils milling around inside. it's a boarding school, so they're all on site, some of them milling around in uniform. the college has said that this news is tragic. it's
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heartbreaking that the community is coming together to try and process what has happened, counselling will be made available to all pupils and the of the board of governors. dr. alister wells has called his said his utter shock and disbelief . said his utter shock and disbelief. he's called and the pats in a wonderful teacher but most of all a delightful person and croydon school, which is the school where she used to teach in south london, not far from here, has called her hugely and much loved. she a warm, energetic, compassionate leader, dedicated teacher and generous, insightful colleague and friend. i've spoken to surrey police today. they said they're not planning a press conference at the moment , planning a press conference at the moment, but if that changes they would. of course let us know. we will bring that to you. of okay. to of course. okay. just to be clear, paul, the school is open this morning. i think my understanding majority understanding is the majority of the epsom are actually the is at epsom are actually overseas, lot of international overseas, a lot of international students. but also day students. but it is also day school where lot of people school where a lot of people from london my neck of from west london from my neck of the actually get bused the woods actually get bused into and my
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into epsom every day. and my understanding that the understanding is that the children are attending today, the open . yeah. and the premises are open. yeah. and that would seem to tally with what we've seen the pupils milling around inside wearing their school uniforms with the flags at half mast above the school . and it's certainly not school. and it's certainly not going to be a normal day of school. you know absolutely or i think people thank you very much and what i know another awful story . right? okay a story which story. right? okay a story which broke on friday was the culmination of months of hard work by the campaign group us for it's co—founder mollie joins me now . mollie, great to see you me now. mollie, great to see you . so you made a complaint against the boss of pfizer for at mis advertising effective lee his vaccine product for children. explain the back story what kind of journey you've been on. take such action against. such a huge company. yeah yeah. so we made a complaint in a year . more than that. now it's over
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a year ago. so in december 21, albert bourla , who is the ceo of albert bourla, who is the ceo of pfizer went on the bbc an interview with fergus walsh . he interview with fergus walsh. he made various claims about, interview with fergus walsh. he made various claims about , the made various claims about, the vaccine generally and in particular vaccination . 5 to 11 particular vaccination. 5 to 11 year olds. so to put this in context, this was december early december 21. and at that point, the vaccine for 5 to 11 year olds hadn't actually been authorised by the mhra , which is authorised by the mhra, which is the medicines and healthcare regulator food products authority. exactly so that's the bodyin authority. exactly so that's the body in the uk. that order authorises a product for use and it hadn't been considered for general rollout to children by gc vii, which is the uk body that considers a certain product will be effectively mass rolled out to a cohort . a joint out to a cohort. a joint committee on vaccination and immunisation. committee on vaccination and immunisation . they love, they immunisation. they love, they love and they love the idea. more coming i'm afraid so. love and they love the idea. more coming i'm afraid so . we more coming i'm afraid so. we heard this and a few members of
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the public actually reached out to us and, heard what he'd said, not what he said in this bbc interview. what bourla said was that in his view it would be a very good idea for 5 to 11 year olds in the uk to be vaccinated , that the benefit a vaccination was complete neatly, completely in favour of vaccinating this age cohort . and that's the age cohort. and that's the actual quote, isn't said, that's the completely. well yeah in in so on the bbc. transcript to be absolutely clear in the written transcript it's quoted as completely in favour what bourla actually said. so if you listen to the interview which still up on the bbc website, what he actually said was it's completely , completely in completely, completely in favour. he did not mention risk once he , did not mention side once he, did not mention side effects and so at this point a few people reached out to us on expressed concern about the lack of balance in this statement. we the help of many people behind the help of many people behind the scenes made a complaint you
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complain to an another acronym coming up you complain to the pmc who conscription code of medicine from pharmaceutical in the uk and they this is an industry body and they are a subset of effectively the pharmaceutical authority in the uk. so is it kind of this sort of self—regulating they're regulating with perhaps vested interest? and i'm not saying that particular agency, but i think what i've realised about you the last year is so many of these regulatory authorities which should be monitoring drug companies, are often funded by the companies or have the drug companies or have a vested interest and therefore aren't necessarily working in the of parents the best interests of parents yet. so i think that's various issues. you're exactly right issues. so you're exactly right . the epa is an industry . so the pmc, epa is an industry body. it has funded by fees from the pharmaceutical industry and actually more than that it is also staffed by senior officers from the pharmaceutical industry . so it is a self—regulatory
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industry and i think you have to ask a question. you know, you have here an industry that has you know, it's got huge power to do good , let's be clear. but it do good, let's be clear. but it also has huge power to do serious harm, including harm to the health of children. you know , why on earth is this a self regulated body? yeah. and i think if you compare it something like in banking, think if you compare it something like in banking , the something like in banking, the obvious one, if you look at the way the banking and financial services industry is regulated , services industry is regulated, it is regulated independently and it has what is called in that context a system of prudent regulation . so i think the regulation. so i think the conclusion of your action was that the effective lee had oversold the claims before the regulatory authority had given him permission to do so . it was him permission to do so. it was a it was a marketing issue in a way. yeah. i mean what what the appeal. so that was the original result of the panel was given late summer and that when not
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entirely enough . however there entirely enough. however there were a number of points that substantially went in our favour and that pfizer, as you would expect, then appealed that the final result of the appeal was the case report was just released a week ago, which is almost broken now. and we didn't we didn't win on appeal on all the points, but we did win on key point, which was that bola had made misleading, misleading statements statements which statements and statements which were in incapable of substantiation , including in substantiation, including in relation to safety of the vaccine for children . well done. vaccine for children. well done. it's not easy to do that of thing because i think what's really clear to point out is this isn't saying the this isn't about saying that the vaccine harmful , was vaccine was was harmful, was about that people who who about saying that people who who are those positions of are in those positions of privilege to make their story, to make claims, must held to the same level of accountability as, say, we would be here on a channel. and he was talking on the bbc . tell me a bit about us the bbc. tell me a bit about us for them. molly because it's an organisation which puts children at the centre of the decisions. and you will hear today because
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i want to give you the turner prize, which is this because i know you work really hard and you get very few wins with what you're doing, just somewhat brief because up against brief because we're up against the the kind of the clock. tell me the kind of work all of have been. work that all of them have been. yeah. so we set at the yeah. so we set up at the beginning of pandemic and we beginning of the pandemic and we set out because we thought one was thinking the kids. was thinking about the kids. unfortunately, know, every unfortunately, you know, every month that has happened since 2020, we that impression has been who is been reinforced like who is speaking for the kids. and speaking up for the kids. and within the media and within government. really government. and we have really tried that many of tried to point out that many of the pandemic decisions have had what we think is disproportionate. i'm very hopeful actually impact on kids. so set up in response to so we set up in response to originate school closures originate with school closures and since then we've and obviously since then we've had number of nonfarm surgical had a number of nonfarm surgical and then pharmaceutical intervention . and what i love as intervention. and what i love as well is how how you fought to get at the centre, the get children at the centre, the covid because weren't even covid because they weren't even in terms of in the original terms of reference. they even reference. no, they even mentioned once and the terms of reference that and reference yet we fought that and they are going to be they are now going to be considered the inquiry which considered in the inquiry which is yeah, yeah. is always. yeah, yeah, yeah. well well pfizer
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well i don't think. well pfizer on health himself molly kingsley but there is your turner prize. thank you so much for standing for what you believe and for what you believe in and putting in all the work for our children. we really appreciate it. coming up, are we it. all right. coming up, are we on bnnk an it. all right. coming up, are we on brink an and adhd on the brink of an and adhd epidemic ? this is a story in the epidemic? this is a story in the papers this morning. want to find our panellists, find out with our panellists, andrew and zoe hachem. but andrew abel and zoe hachem. but time quick .
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break while. come back to bed, tend to stay on gb news. my panel are back with me this morning. dr. zoe hakim, author and health expert and broadcast from futurist andrew abel and write is another one. we had a brilliant conversation before the you it, the break. if you missed it, where watch it back on where were you? watch it back on the and it's medical the app. and it's about medical ethics, really, about the ethics, really, and about the future, which is why come into
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medical health. so i'll you commit perfect for you this to this right should a brain this guys right should a brain dead woman kept alive and dead woman be kept alive and used as surrogates ? i'm smiling, used as surrogates? i'm smiling, but i shouldn't be smiling . it's but i shouldn't be smiling. it's a serious issue, but it's the kind of headline that you read and you go, where are we actually living? living in your crazy we all? and it's crazy future as we all? and it's also terrible because also a terrible headline because it bernard madoff just it like a bernard madoff just doesn't to turn doesn't so they need to turn this is actually a great story i mean it should be phrased differently. it's all about the message. but that's what we do. that's we do it's that's what we do here. it's about people a choice, about if people make a choice, donate organs. one saved donate their organs. one saved lives and can help another life. that's yeah. well that now saying is you can keep somebody alive who's brain dead who could be a surrogate mother and apparently there are not enough surrogates in the world at the moment for people who can't bear their own children. and therefore, this is one possible lity. so it's the progress in medicine and interest in the article. you have to dig a bit deep down into it. they say it's not women. it could also be
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not just women. it could also be men who could carry the babies . men who could carry the babies. well, i mean, that's they can only have put that line in. so if it was a formally fee male born adult who then identified as a male but had retained their uterus, that's what that's about how go, oh, you've got to be across all the detail this i you know, i woman, woman. i'm sorry , but someone with a womb who is a woman. what do you make of this story? well, you know, when i first saw it, i thought that's the most horrific thing i've ever heard of. i, i mean, i'm living in some sort of monster world. surely cannot even world. this surely cannot even have proposed. and of have been proposed. but and of course, andrew put it, we course, as andrew put it, we donate organs. course, as andrew put it, we donate organs . somebody course, as andrew put it, we donate organs. somebody had said before that happens that they were prepared for that to happen.then were prepared for that to happen. then suddenly into a different debate. and, you know , which is why it's good to debate and not just take first reaction that circumstance. reaction in that circumstance. so when take so if people when they take the i mean, organ donation i mean, remember organ donation now out, isn't it. so now is opt out, isn't it. so what don't is for oh you what you don't is for oh you opted into that surrogate as well. did you not spot the small
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pregnant. yeah. so we do have to be careful. it has to be a very clear in circumstances clear opt in in circumstances that ever become to the point that i ever become to the point that i ever become to the point that no longer alive from that i'm no longer alive from a brain perspective. even brain perspective. i hate even the term brain dead. then i be happy to go with . now happy to go along with. now there's of a technicality there's a bit of a technicality in article as well in the in the article as well because apparently the longest that managed to keep that we've managed to keep somebody alive far is 110 somebody alive so far is 110 days. i'm working out my i think it's about 280 days on average. you know, three week, three times over . you know, three week, three times over. so you know, three week, three times over . so they've got a way times over. so they've got a way to go before this is even possible. i think . and then you possible. i think. and then you wonder, why do you start floating kind of stuff? are you trying to shock us in the health perspective some way? because actually there's something coming and if you coming down the line. and if you shock a little and then shock us a little bit and then pull back, then suddenly we pull us back, then suddenly we accept thing pulled back accept thing that we pulled back to. i don't know where to. yeah, i don't know where they're this. we they're going with this. we can't it. it's can't even do it. it's a norwegian philosopher who has mooted idea. small mooted this idea. it's a small jaw, whatsername doctor. small jaw, whatsername doctor. small jaw . so when she tried to open jaw. so when she tried to open a small child to all sorts of
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possibilities, it's got to be a nightmare that we're looking at when she's. yeah you're on a small jewel, you see and she's so short professor in philosophy at the university oslo. and at the university of oslo. and she it would be a she said it would could be a viable option women who who viable option for women who who oh, prefer to carry oh, who prefer not to carry a child. yes. so the idea is that if you are a woman who's maybe beenin if you are a woman who's maybe been in some sort of traumatic head, you've a car and head, maybe you've had a car and a brain injury, and yet your body can be kept alive. as zoe is explained, you can be impregnate its head in vitro fertilisation. yes. to carry. you won't just the i mean do you speak latin fluently as a barrister. absolutely touch amelia in utero. you're right. right. which means woman is something. but so you have no idea why men go. i will pretend that i. i thought we did a study that i. i thought we did a study that said you have to. and of course, that was a phrase that was meant to be a driver for feminist. the women have to move beyond just being seen as nothing. it's true so this story
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, perhaps it pushes a slightly in time in terms of feminism. so in time in terms of feminism. so in that you could be in your hospital bed and they say, you know, we can use that woman now as an incubator, a human incubator. the other part, the story think, that people story i think, that people aren't the aren't really considering is the child she's born to, the child that she's born to, the woman that condition surely woman in that condition surely the implications on them could be enormous. yeah. i be enormous. yeah, yeah. i i think it's generally accepted that it's a good idea to have two parents, if at all possible . at least one. yeah. male . or at least one. yeah. male male female. because that's male and female. because that's how we make babies, you know? i know can do other things that know we can do other things that way. we use having babies to show is controversial and i can't go the place that a man is having a baby. i'm sorry. we've just got to stop this delusion. yeah, you know, we didn't fully the jk rowling andrew, you know, very rolling eyes in bowling. bowling yeah, sorry. bowling. we did learn that . andrew very did learn that. andrew very tactfully this is tactfully said, we know this is about the bbc impartiality, but there big issue and you had there a big issue and you had kind touched on in the kind of touched on in the introduction, rolling introduction, which isj rolling has fantastic voice for has been a fantastic voice for
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women the idea that somebody women and the idea that somebody could go on the show and then unopposed accused being unopposed accused her of being transphobic. was transphobic. so there was a journalist , transphobic. so there was a journalist, i think it was s receta or something who was tasked finding the 20 most tasked with finding the 20 most transphobic that j.k. rowling had said and couldn't even find one. so that was then the story. well, i think that the that the reason jk rowling rowling has gotten embroiled into this is because she's a wordsmith and she obviously and she's a writer and she's always been fighting the fact that we were losing the word woman. and as soon as she said that, you know, she's become that. but there has to be a platform of activism. we've got to move on after the break. gb economics and business gb news economics and business liam here in liam halligan will be here in the big pension the studio. big pension story today need talk today that we need to talk about. he spoke to liz truss last as well before she published her 4000 word article over ooh, let's find over the weekend ooh, let's find out hand had in that out what hand they had in that shall after the morning's shall we. after the morning's news . bear. thank you. good news with. bear. thank you. good morning from the gb newsroom at
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1132, here are the headlines. southeastern turkey been hit by a second earthquake just hours after the country was struck by after the country was struck by a 7.8 magnitude quake . more than a 7.8 magnitude quake. more than a 7.8 magnitude quake. more than a thousand people have been killed and, thousands more injured after the first earthquake hit in the early hours of this morning. the affected area is near the border with syria and has caused widespread destruction in both countries. rescue are frantically searching through the rubble for survivors . the rubble for survivors. turkish president erdogan described the quake as the worst disaster to hit turkey since one of the same magnitude struck december 1939. thousands of nurses and ambulance in england and some in wales are striking in what's being described live as the largest walkout in the history the nhs. the royal college of nursing are beginning a two day strike in a dispute over pay. ambulance crews and call handlers will return to work tomorrow but will continue industrial action friday. health minister maria caulfield told gb
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news it's not affordable to meet the union's demands. we followed an independent process with a pay an independent process with a pay body that the unions signed up to and were very happy with the settlement last year. and it's difficult for us now if we are to give a paywall to nurses, we'll have to look at teachers, we'll have to look at teachers, we'll have to look at ambulance drivers. you know, we just have to we just can't afford inflation busting rises that inflation busting pay rises that the unions are currently demanding . a private underwater demanding. a private underwater rescue company has begun searching for nicola birley , the searching for nicola birley, the specialist diving company sgi has been brought in to assist police in searching the river. wyre after ms. pulley vanished over a week ago. police believe 45 year old fell in the river, but her family and friends have questioned that saying there's still no evidence. it's after new pictures were released from the day she disappeared, which show the mother of two loading her car before driving her two children to school . the head of
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children to school. the head of epsom college has been found dead alongside her husband and her seven year old daughter. the bodies of emma patterson, her daughter lettie and husband, george were found at the prestigious boarding school the early hours of sunday morning. surrey police are investigating but say they're confident it's an isolated incident with no third party involvement . tv and third party involvement. tv and dab+ radio . this is.
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gb news. welcome back. it's 1137. this is bev turner today on gb news. so over the weekend former pm liz truss wrote in the telegraph she was never given a realistic chance to enact tax cuts . allies chance to enact tax cuts. allies of rishi sunak confronted her as delusional and the man who knows all about it . because you saw,
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all about it. because you saw, i mean, dinner with her did you on thursday night? liam halligan no, i didn't have dinner with liz, but i did know that. she was going to write this article for the telegraph which is my newspaper well, i've newspaper office. well, i've a column the telegraph. sunday column in the telegraph. sunday telegraph. her over telegraph. did you help her over 20 didn't help her 20 years now? i didn't help her with crisis herself. i'm with the crisis herself. i'm sure wrote to herself, but sure she wrote to herself, but it rather unusual for it was rather unusual for a national newspaper to 4000 national newspaper to run a 4000 word . and in that piece , word piece. and in that piece, which was released on sunday, it caused a sort of political earthquake across west minster and the media class. and so on. what liz truss is basically saying when she was prime minister for just 49 days saying when she was prime minister forjust 49 days before minister for just 49 days before finance markets went into meltdown and she was ousted by her own party, she was saying was, yes, i made a mistake yes. i should have listened more. but the thrust of my policy were correct us from in the words of current chancellor hunt when he stood to be tory in in july last
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year when boris johnson stepped down. it seems so long ago. yeah. jeremy hunt said that he wanted to move from a high tax growth economy to a low growth, high economy. jeremy hunt actually said that corporation tax should go from 19% to 15. that's what said. and yet he is now the chancellor who in april is going to oversee that. we know it's already been announced an increase in corporation tax from 19% to 25. now, liz truss and a lot of other people, a lot of other conservative are saying that's crazy to raise corporation tax at a time like this when so many businesses are ravaged by lockdown . sky high ravaged by lockdown. sky high energy bills , very high costs in energy bills, very high costs in the supply chain. in fact if you raise corporation tax by that much, it's going to cost the treasury money because so many businesses will fold. that's what liz truss was arguing in her mini budget. now inflation is coming down. it strikes me that while she's taking a lot of and fire and an awful of people are criticising her, it's too early . why are you saying this
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early. why are you saying this now? have a period silence now? you have a period silence from you a lot of people on the conservative benches with conservative benches agree with her. tweet out over the her. i put a tweet out over the weekend based on my sunday telegraph column , which made the telegraph column, which made the case for freezing tax at 19% is have thousands of retweets including from some pretty prominent conservative backbenchers even though even though i am even though i am defying government policy, i'm arguing against government policy. well, one person who retweeted it is simon clarke, the former levelling up secretary who is a key ally of liz. liz is a tory mp from the north—east. and i know personally, because i talk to lots of politicians is that there is now a head of building behind this idea. why are we raising corporations from 19 to 25% now? yeah you know what, when i was reading this article, i didn't know you'd spent time with liz truss last week and look what i wrote on halligan question mark. now let me tell you why i did this, because she
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talks about the fact that large parts of the media and the wider pubuc parts of the media and the wider public sphere had become with key arguments about tax and economic policy . and over time, economic policy. and over time, sentiment has shifted. leftwards and you and i were talking about that how you were that last week, how you were saying sometimes way saying that sometimes the way that economic vicissitudes that the economic vicissitudes you'd say, let's call it, would oh, that's a crime on this morning. but each week now these vicissitudes do not always get reported by some of the mainstream media outlets. the establishment , let's call them establishment, let's call them we are mainstream media because it's somehow a bit too complicated it for them is that that's what she's saying there is that there is there is a bias against understanding media fought this my whole adult life. i've tried to get more economic sound television. yeah on, more economics and business on television my whole adult life. i'm still trying to do here with some success, but not enough. a lot of success. not not enough in sorry. not enough, in my view. let's just put that on the
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record. yeah i'm a free, free person to say that. i think it's a free society. yeah. so i don't just think it's a bias against understanding and complexity. i a lot of people in the broadcast media in particular underestimate the extent to which ordinary people can deal with complexity . you know, if with complexity. you know, if you run a household, you've got a mortgage, you run a small business, you're dealing far, far more complex things than a lot of young journalists are in their lives . and i think people their lives. and i think people can understand these concepts. and in my view most broadcast, they they've never been in business. they don't know what it takes to run a business unlike me. okay. and more tax is always a good thing in their view and more government spending is always a good thing, even though you know the tax burden in this country is now a 70 year high. and an awful lot of people, not from an ideological perspective, just think that's killing enterprise . what do think, liam, of . what do you think, liam, of the fact that she does admit that her nor kwarteng had been informed of the potential
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consequence and says that her economic policy would have on this liability driven investments ? i think the whole investments? i think the whole ldi situation is a scandal. what's going on here is because of years of quantitative easing, years of central bank money printing yields on government debt , very, printing yields on government debt, very, very printing yields on government debt , very, very low, which printing yields on government debt, very, very low, which was handy for the government, but for the pension funds that are basically forced by regulation to invest in these ultra savings strains that yield a regular income to the investor that matched their liabilities, the pensions they have to pay. they were getting very little money from these gilts. fact the return on the gilts was was lower in many cases than the rate of inflation. so of course they were losing money. so in order to sort of juice up those returns , they used what we call returns, they used what we call leverage , which means you borrow leverage, which means you borrow and you invest more or something and you invest more or something and then you get bigger gains and then you get bigger gains and then you pay back the money that borrowed . this is that you borrowed. this is liability investment and
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liability driven investment and it was happening with some pension funds. they were allowed to undertake these risky strategies go wrong badly when the debt goes wrong because the value of the investment goes down and you got to pay back than you, then you've got and strikes me that not enough people in regulatory sphere understood this. indeed the bank of england's own pension fund , 5 of england's own pension fund, 5 billion quid pension fund , its billion quid pension fund, its own staff, current retired was heavily in into these ldi . there heavily in into these ldi. there still are about 80% of the cash is in these investments so maybe they didn't understand the danger of ldi investments when you getting some turbulence on the gilt market. but look they a lot of mistakes during the mini budget if you go back to the tape the day of the mini budget and i have i've looked so i said i said instantly to do the top rate of tax now in this climate is politically . ten eight that is politically. ten eight that was my phrase . ten eight and was my phrase. ten eight and it's become like the generic
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description of that. and that meant that the media turned against them . financial markets against them. financial markets were already spooked by some operations the bank of england were doing before the mini budget and the rest is history. and it was parachuted in right. thanks, okay teachers in thanks, liam. okay teachers in scotland are on the final of a 16 day strike over pay today. members from the country's largest union are campaigning for a 10% pay increase in the face of a drop in real terms. income hollyrood has made for office to date, but none of them above 5. scotland reporter tony mcguire has the story . today mcguire has the story. today marks the end of 60 days of teachers strikes across scotland , with union members spending three days on picket lines since november . three days on picket lines since november. having turned three days on picket lines since november . having turned down november. having turned down four offers already there a 10% demand is unwavering . the demand is unwavering. the scottish government says it's simply not affordable . it's simply not affordable. it's disgraceful that teachers have had to take three days of strike action already just in pursuit of fair pay. if they have to, they are to . prepared take more they are to. prepared take more strike action. looking the
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strike action. we're looking the 28th of february and the 1st of march, but hopefully it won't come that. hopefully the come to that. hopefully the scottish cosla scottish government and cosla will the right will step in and do the right thing, bring the right amount resources table bring resources to the table to bring an this dispute. cosla an end to this dispute. cosla the group representing scottish council at the negotiation table , responded to a request for comment council and spokesperson katie hardman said cosla leaders are clear that given the financial pressures being faced, it remains the case that their 10% ask of the trade unions remains on affordable and therefore we still a distance apart in terms a settlement. but of course, there's another affected party in this scenario, and that's why i'm them scrambling to meet this your family. david is , a hybrid family. david is, a hybrid worker working in 9 to 5. he's self—employed. and rebecca is in primary one. they've to juggle their days around three times already to for teacher strikes . already to for teacher strikes. who'd you vote for? the conversations i've had. broadly speaking , all really supportive
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speaking, all really supportive of the that talks are striking because you know they know that the teachers need to be paid for your salary . want teachers going your salary. want teachers going to foodbanks she don't want teachers struggling to pay the mortgages which are getting higher . we mortgages which are getting higher. we want teachers to be here for a long time. we want the good teachers to stay in their jobs and to teach the good teachers to stay in theirjobs and to teach our. it their jobs and to teach our. it comes to it. i'm fortunate. comes down to it. i'm fortunate. i'm self—employed. can juggle. i'm self—employed. i can juggle. modibo am . but some of the modibo am. but some of the parents have said, you know, things oh, you know, things like, oh, you know, i really just literally really, i'm just literally having kid tailored having to give my kid tailored ammo a games console and get ammo or a games console and get on with it. both sides now have three weeks to strike deal and three weeks to strike a deal and avoid walkouts and avoid further walkouts and spring. meanwhile, it's parents like david and joanne , who are like david and joanne, who are left to prepare for every eventual quality. this is tony mcguire for gb news in scotland . now i'm back on my panel with my panel here, andrew board and dr. zoe harkin . first time for dr. zoe harkin. first time for you today. so glad you haven't left the building. so you've got good, good time so far. right
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okay. i'm going to need an explainer from you on this. and you i should remind, you and i should remind, comes from thank you. this from the future. thank you. this is digital pound . is about the digital pound. might by 2030. and might be possible by 2030. and bit to combat the failing use of. andrew bailey and jeremy hunt are expected to say it is likely that a new form of money will be needed as cash use continues to decline . an continues to decline. an increasingly digital economy sounds so harmless. it does sounds so harmless. it does sound harmless. what it basically is , it's basically as basically is, it's basically as the title suggests, digital currency . you don't need to have currency. you don't need to have physical, physical coins and on and so forth. and the problem is we've started with world of cryptocurrency and that's got a really bad name because of things like fdx and you remember the terrible the name sangram bank. the terrible the name sangram bank . freed yeah. and the bank. freed yeah. and the wonderful billions which are lost as a result of it. it is really useful because why on a should you have physical items in order to exchange the old days of bartering? here's your
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eggs and i'll give you a couple of bits of chicken. as opposed to it. as opposed to everything being digital and etc. long time that what you can try to do to simplify the way that we have that way. yes so what will this look people what? how look like for people what? how does transition happen? what does the transition happen? what does the transition happen? what doesit does the transition happen? what does it mean for the money in people's bank accounts? so what will effectively and will happen is effectively and it digitally you it happens digitally anyway, you don't to the bank. don't have to go to the bank. you your your pound you don't get your your pound notes it to somebody notes and give it to somebody else that's happening already. what to do sure what we need to do is make sure and this they say in the article as well they can do both side by side because need to make side because you need to make sure anything about sure get anything about technology. point technology. the starting point has to be flatten the learning curve. think about curve. and if you think about how i pay for items at the how do i pay for items at the moment doing when moment what you're doing when you anyway, you do that digitally anyway, you're your you're going that with your credit you're tapping it credit cards, you're tapping it and is very rare and that transacts is very rare that you're now handing over cash so many places since cash and so many places since the pandemic longer cash the pandemic no longer take cash . come i can't work out . zoe how come i can't work out if an evil angel? do if andrew is an evil angel? do you know what mean? he's fabulously enthusiastic . yes, no
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fabulously enthusiastic. yes, no doubt.i fabulously enthusiastic. yes, no doubt . i just fabulously enthusiastic. yes, no doubt. i just have all fabulously enthusiastic. yes, no doubt . i just have all these doubt. i just have all these little alarm bells going off in my head about how we're all going to be beholden to our digital currency if we do not have the freedom to transact without the potential for surveillance, we not free. surveillance, we are not free. so exactly what i'm so we. that's exactly what i'm thinking. could thinking. i'm thinking could possibly . so i want to possibly go wrong. so i want to understand the aim . yeah. and understand the aim. yeah. and having read the article, the seems to be all because we're using cashless but we're being forced cashless . it, you forced to use cashless. it, you know does start during the know it does start during the covid all we don't want covid thing of all we don't want to touch pound notes because they might have a virus on them and find out there and then we find out there wasn't might wasn't anything might transmission. so sorry about that well why are that one as well but why are they this? and if they they doing this? and if they are having two side by having the two long side by side, as andrew says, we they're already we already have digital payments. it to the payments. i can use it to the extent that to and i can extent that i want to and i can also use cash whenever i want to. what your what is to. so what is your aim? what is behind because again, i behind this? because again, i just don't trust people at the moment, people who are supposed to are controlling us and to us who are controlling us and telling to do and. i telling us what to do and. i don't they're not
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don't trust that they're not going something sinister. going to do something sinister. isn't because about isn't it also because it's about you programmable because you can be programmable because the england did ask the bank of england did ask rishi question before rishi sunak this question before he his prime he was way before his prime minister, they said, are minister, when they said, are you going to make your central banking digital currency programme? and that means you can if we apply certain can only it if we apply certain conditions you? conditions must. where are you? well, true, that would well, if that's true, that would worry. all true worry. but. but as with all true in china . well, china they in china. well, china they already have weather balloons . already have weather balloons. you don't believe everything . so you don't believe everything. so the reality is it's going to happen. the reality is it's going to happen . and as i said, it's just happen. and as i said, it's just preparing that what we need to do is avoid the shock headlines and. what they always say. i said p.t. barnum. i always quote p.t. said, if you want to draw a crowd, start a fight . so what crowd, start a fight. so what you do and the thing that spreads the most the favour of pr used to say that the thing that spreads the most is fear. so if you worry people about things, then all of a sudden they're not to do it. what they're not going to do it. what we need to do and what you do brilliantly on this show is we the curve, explain the learning curve, explain what's already what's going to we're already doing transactions. doing digital transactions. there digital there are far more digital transactions people
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transactions than people handung transactions than people handling what need to handling cash. what we need to make that nobody's. i make sure is that nobody's. i agree. and what i love is the fact that we are talking about it and very few people are. that's we need to doing that's what we need to be doing is to make sure that we all what the regulations and alignments be right. so we be around that. right. so we were on, very were moving on, which is very accurate because is story accurate because this is a story about apparently is about adhd. apparently this is pemberton writing in the mail today is the must have today is that is the must have mental health condition it's mental health condition and it's being overdiagnosed his being overdiagnosed in his opinion is. this opinion as a doctor is. this not just because us can just because none of us can concentrate very long concentrate for very long anymore, voice speaking anymore, because voice speaking on there is on our phones, i think there is some that. i mean, actually, some of that. i mean, actually, look of what is it look down the list of what is it that manifests itself as adhd. it's impulsiveness, it's things like impulsiveness, disorganised poor time management, focus. management, not able to focus. and think we are developing a and i think we are developing a generation who would meet criteria because it is also multifactorial and so instant you on your phone and then it fings you on your phone and then it rings and then a message up in a notification and then you do this and we didn't have that when we were younger. and you could focus on homework or could just focus on homework or just do that. there is also the issue have capacity to
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issue that you have capacity to diagnose more the diagnose people more at the moment. perhaps have moment. so perhaps we did have the autism, adhd that the levels of autism, adhd that we had then, but we're just more able to diagnose them. but it's about 5, i think global play that are being diagnosed or have been diagnosed as adhd one in 20. well that's one in, you know, in a small classroom of children. you know, i most teachers would tell you this seems to be more that would present with this than and of course, there are these online tests now andrew , this is what tests now andrew, this is what in this article is saying, you know anyway he said this doctor me said did it and he came me said he did it and he came out adhd. are you distracted out was adhd. are you distracted by trying to do by music if you're trying to do a of work? yes, i am. do a piece of work? yes, i am. do companies make money out of this, though. they indeed. but what don't about this what i don't like about this article i know dr. max article and i know dr. max pemberton to, as pemberton is there to, as i said, barnum, start said, p.t. barnum, start a fight. welcome. actually, fight. you're welcome. actually, it's very i think lots it's actually very i think lots of celebrities have come out who legitimately so johnny vegas very recently spoke about his own challenges and he said he found it very reassuring to find
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that he got a diagnosis. i think what i always object to labels and we've become a society that is obsessed with labels and packaging . we should celebrate packaging. we should celebrate diversity . but i also think it's diversity. but i also think it's a legitimate point. i also think we need to be the generation that talks about mental health so that the next generation doesn't suffer the stigma and i think if we understand those conditions looks good. the other thing which we should touch on as well gender bias. as well is the gender bias. so the out at the the reports coming out at the moment is they're not getting women and girls are not being properly diagnosed because they're more they're saying it's more likely to depression anxiety to be depression or anxietyt than adhd . and as result, than adhd. and as a result, they're not getting the treatment assistance that treatment and assistance that they think girls actually they i think with girls actually considered high performing . so considered high performing. so because you would normally associate non fluency with conditions like autism or asperger's or adhd or whatever not being able to deliver a conversation because there's lots of things flying into your head girls are actually which is to born talking so a good communicator so i think what they're saying is it doesn't
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show up in girls in the way that doesin show up in girls in the way that does in boys i know little boy that's been diagnosed quite easily it's just so easily because it's just so obvious his behaviour he obvious in his behaviour that he has got some things that need some help . i think boys some help. i think with boys often it's more common because boys are energetic boys, maybe more misdiagnosed because they are generally, you know, when my son was bouncing off the walls, he still fairly bouncing off. now an 18 and you know and therefore children i think also therefore children i think also the school system as well perhaps doesn't because it expects all children to sit down carefully and do this . but then carefully and do this. but then some of those children, it's very hard for them, i think tipping people's wings at an early age is really and i'm always talking about so, you know, the wonderful people who celebrate their diverse, they autism, for example, some of the most creative people have suffered with autism and you work on that sort of premise on the list of people who've come out with a apart from that i mentioned jonny vickers but aren't from ant and dec justin timberlake, sue perkins, olivia
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attwood they've acknowledged attwood they've all acknowledged now diagnosed now that they've been diagnosed with this, and i think the more that people in public i can that people in the public i can shine spotlight on these shine a spotlight on these issues, and not just issues, the better and not just be right? today has be negative. right? today has been but negative been anything but negative thank you much both of you to you so much to both of you to and doctors that can thank and doctors that we can thank you. you. write it has you. thank you. write it has flown by. coming up next is gb news with mark longhurst . news live with mark longhurst. i'm turner i'll see you i'm bev turner i'll see you tomorrow morning at ten. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office. sunny one out met office. a sunny one out there many. it stunning there for many. it is stunning across parts scotland and across parts of scotland and northern ireland, but most of us will stay dry. and here's the reason why big fat area of high pressure sitting over us and that will dominate our weather for next few days. there is a weather front approaching the northwest and the ice about the squeezing together here. well, so is turning breezy. we may so it is turning breezy. we may a of light rain over a little bit of light rain over the western at times, but the western isles at times, but otherwise it's dry, bit more otherwise it's dry, a bit more clouds spilling into scotland and northern ireland, particularly but particularly to the west, but hazy across eastern hazy sunshine across eastern scotland and certainly for most
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of it's dry, it's of england, wales it's dry, it's bright , it's not particularly bright, it's not particularly warm , but temperatures are close warm, but temperatures are close to average , 7 to 9 celsius after to average, 7 to 9 celsius after what was a fairly frosty start to the day we see a little bit more rain coming in this into the northwest. whether if what we saw earlier just edging its way down towards the highlands by the time we get towards midnight further south, clear and cold, frosty and there'll be and cold, frosty and there'll be a bit more fog around, i suspect tonight compared to last night across parts of south wales, the south midlands and southern minus two, minus three. that's towns and cities. whereas further north more cloud, further north with more cloud, more breeze, it won't be frosty. here we'll be a little bit grey and damp across the west of northern ireland and the highlands . northern ireland and the highlands. first thing on tuesday morning, band of thick, thicker cloud. the old spot of drizzle, trying push drizzle, trying to push southwards england. wales southwards for england. wales will fog could will have that fog. could take a while clear certainly to while to clear certainly to stick around through the rush hour then it's a dry fine hour but then it's a dry fine and day, perhaps a little and sunny day, perhaps a little cloudier england cloudier over northern england and cloud across and thicker cloud across southern scotland. northern
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ireland from what was that weather but really weather from. but really fizzling pushes fizzling out as it pushes southwards. maybe old spot southwards. maybe the old spot of drizzle here and there during tuesday across southwest scotland . again, we'll see that scotland. again, we'll see that frost back across the south as we head into wednesday morning. the rest of the week, large , the rest of the week, large, chilly, dry, turning chilly, dry, but turning a little cloudy and slowly turning a little milder as well .
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