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it's 11:00. you're watching gb it'511:00. you're watching gb news a it's11:00. you're watching gb news a moment headlines. but first, let's bring you up to date with the latest news headunes. date with the latest news headlines . the number of people headlines. the number of people killed in the turkish now reportedly stands more than 3100. that number continuing to rise. the 7.8 magnitude quake hit in the early hours of the morning in and was immediately followed by dozens of aftershocks that were almost too strong and were felt as far away as cyprus. the epicentre was near the border with syria, causing widespread to homes and businesses . thousands of people businesses. thousands of people have been injured , both have been injured, both countries. and tonight the uk is sending a team of search and rescue specialists which should be arriving around now. the foreign secretary james cleverly says the uk government aware of any british fatality so far, but
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it is too early to say. we'll keep you up to date on that story. on breakfast tomorrow , story. on breakfast tomorrow, 6:00. now, in other news, the partner of mum, nicola pulley , partner of mum, nicola pulley, says it's a tough time for her daughters . says it's a tough time for her daughters. in a statement, paul ansell says it's been ten days now since nicola missing. and i have two little girls who missed their mummy. and who need her back. a private underwater team has joined the search for. the missing mother of two focusing on the river wyre in lancashire, near to where went missing. police believe , the 45 year old police believe, the 45 year old may have fallen in the river, but her family and friends , but her family and friends, there's still no evidence to support theory . tens of support theory. tens of thousands of nurses and ambulance staff in england went on strike today in the biggest walkout in the history, the nhs. royal college of nursing is staging two days of strikes in. a dispute over pay. ambulance crews and call handlers will return to work tomorrow but will
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resume strike action on friday. general secretary , the royal general secretary, the royal college of nursing, pat collins , thinks nurses aren't being paid fairly. but the health secretary , steve barclay, says a secretary, steve barclay, says a resolution could come through the independent pay review body. there's been ongoing pressures on, the nhs. inflation has been higher since last year's pay review body process than was originally forecast , for originally forecast, for example, in the spending review 2021. and that's why we've got the evidence in terms of april that we're working with the trade unions on that will reflect the inflation reflect those circumstances. but it should be done through the independent pay review the process that look at both process that can look at both what needs but, also process that can look at both what needs but , also the what the nhs needs but, also the wider of the economy and wider needs of the economy and the pressures that many the other pressures that many of your facing . today marks the your are facing. today marks the 16th and final strike day teachers in scotland who also walked out in a dispute over pay- walked out in a dispute over pay. more industrial action is on the horizon after.
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pay. more industrial action is on the horizon after . talks on the horizon after. talks failed between teaching unions and hollyrood demanding a 10% pay and hollyrood demanding a 10% pay rise for their members . and pay rise for their members. and that's after the scottish government offered a 5% pay rise . lastly, football club manchester city has been charged with breaking fair play rules by premier league. the current league holders have been accused of more than 100 breaches from 2009 to 2018 over the accuracy of their pay and profit information . if found proven , information. if found proven, the club could be docked points or even expelled from the top flight . manchester city has flight. manchester city has issued a statement saying they were surprised and they look forward to the independent review of the figures . you're up review of the figures. you're up to date tv online on dab plus radio. this is gb news. now for headunes.
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headlines. well good evening. hello, i'm simon evans . welcome to headline simon evans. welcome to headline news where we're going to be entering the realm of tuesday newspapers. joining me on our is valiant knight, stephen allen and his trusty page boy , francis and his trusty page boy, francis foster. i know whether they're pitching you as a sort of arthurian or don quixote , you arthurian or don quixote, you know, let's see. that will emerge, no doubt. let's take look at tomorrow's front pages. first of all, we start with the daily mail as is traditional for reasons i'm and as fears grow of a shrinking military will get no extra funding in budget despite having given all their weapons , having given all their weapons, ukraine generals and meps warn that amid global crises , britain that amid global crises, britain will be left all but defenceless. we finally get a headune defenceless. we finally get a headline sized word telegraph has sturgeon trends sets, so back years says . salmond, who back years says. salmond, who
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has finally pitched in on that particular furore the paper has truss come back because damage the tories pollsters one bit of a pattern emerging here. the guardian has katter's thousand dead as earthquake hits turkey and syria mirror has of hope amid the horror the same story of the earthquake there the sun has 10,000 feet dead in rubble and dead harry in a field . hmm and dead harry in a field. hmm nice. i'm of dispute over who took cherry anyway , finally, the took cherry anyway, finally, the star term holds hit with new travel. wish you here. well, that, of course is somewhat ironic given happening overseas as well that . those were your as well that. those were your front pages . let's front pages. let's take a look at them in a little more detail.
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we start with the steve and their coverage of this terrible event. yes earthquakes, nasty . their coverage of this terrible event. yes earthquakes, nasty. i mean, when you go up to the levels of point eight on the richter scale these days, seismologists don't use the richter scale as much. it's just it's the famous one because that just looks at amplitude of the waves. is it no longer the recognised of severity from the human perspective .7 no. there's a human perspective? no. there's a better way of doing it . but human perspective? no. there's a better way of doing it. but this i better way of doing it. but this | , better way of doing it. but this i , the two earthquakes i mean, the two earthquakes makes it even just so you get this huge earthquake thousands died. and then as rescue effort actually for that first one the time of day is a problem as well. it's winter. it's dark of course. electricity gets knocked out. horrible out. yeah that's a horrible situation . and the second situation. and then the second earthquake off during earthquake goes off during rescue are rescue efforts. these are i mean, obviously, the whole thing is just nature's gift or or is just in nature's gift or or whatever. there's nothing to be done about it, but it's not unusual to aftershocks. unusual to have aftershocks. that's standard thing. that's a fairly standard thing. when new earth is moving and when the new earth is moving and the tectonic plates are shuddering a little bit years ago. a nerd and. i ago. so i'm a big nerd and. i used to record open university
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and next day when i and watch it the next day when i was got much, i didn't was a kid and got much, i didn't have many friends. but you didn't. you learned about better versions ties , at least. versions of ties, at least. yeah, i recalled. i learned about the p way, even the way. oh, okay. so with an earthquake the actual one little scale, hardly on the richter scale is primary is the one. it's a longitudinal wave. it makes the earth move up and down right. but buildings are really good up and forces because they're and down. forces because they're built all the built to be pushed down all the secondary is transverse secondary waves is transverse where earth wobbles. and where the earth wobbles. and that's does buildings. that's one that does buildings. was pillow talk? well, was this your pillow talk? well, did so, was it more did you? and if so, was it more of the p wave? will the waves? i read exactly this do with the read exactly this to do with the harry story on the weekend's news, but. so yeah. have you got anything add those anything to add to those scientific francis anything to add to those scieialways francis anything to add to those scieialways been francis anything to add to those scieialways been a francis anything to add to those scieialways been a frarof; i've always been a fan of p wave. and so delighted that wave. i'm and so delighted that they featured in tonight's chat can't really be laughing joking about this though absolutely horrific and obviously our thoughts do go out to these these poor folks who live on these poor folks who live on these through no fault . of their these through no fault. of their own, these these terrible fault lines. very much for
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lines. we take it very much for granted stability may not granted the stability may not always political stability always enjoy political stability . generally speaking, terra firma least you have the daily mail and frances which suggests that despite terra firma , we that despite terra firma, we might not be entirely without threat. no no, indeed. so the daily mail goes with the front page headline of defenceless and it's telling the story about . it's telling the story about. armed forces , whose budget has armed forces, whose budget has been cut to ribbons by successive governments and jeremy hunt has refused to pump any money in and one of the most worrying things about it is that it's due to shrink 73,000 full time troops from 82,000. and it's currently below 76,000. when you think there is a war happening for the first time ever , not for the first time, ever, not for the first time, for the first time in a long time in with the russian invasion of ukraine. you do think to yourself, is this really the time to be cutting back on our nation's armed forces? i've got say, if you
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just said to me, 73,000, 76,000, i don't know. i wouldn't how many armed forces should have many armed forces we should have at moment. i think lot of at the moment. i think a lot of it we've moved into a it now is we've moved into a kind kind of kind of post—human kind of defence haven't we, with drones and a lot of things are control from command centres rather of boots on the ground as they say. not necessarily the best measure. a little bit like your richter scale possibly, but there has been a sense for a long time armed forces long time now that armed forces are really the world class are not really the world class to be reckoned with, kind of even back in tasha's day, the task force was probably the last era. well, what's going to say we are in a time of i've not checked this story, but is the go to reference aircraft carriers with the no aircraft and recent stories about the kit not up to scratch for not being up to scratch for various military operations? yeah, that's a budget issue as well . normally kind of well. not normally the kind of person would say spend on person who would say spend on defence, it seems odd defence, but it now seems odd time to get picky. it well it was also i remember gigs out in the the falkland islands as a the in the falkland islands as a stand up and four or five is where now they get a few
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helicopter. but the thing that struck a the young men struck me was a the young men out there were not what you might kind of picture you think about types you about you know army types you know were not like know they were not like bristling with muscles covered know they were not like britattoosvith muscles covered know they were not like britattoos stocky|scles covered know they were not like britattoos stocky masculine 'ed know they were not like britattoos stocky masculine you in tattoos stocky masculine you know no nonsense i've a lot them felt more like this have been their best option leaving school and maybe they were learning some decent trades and they were going to be able to re—enter. it's actually quite a good option. it's actually quite it's felt to me like that was quite a positive way to it as like a positive way to see it as like a way of offering young men and women course a means of like, i suppose you call it a further education, but, you know, mean i always thought, you know, national service a little bit of that about it well are we missing the opportunity as well i think so as well, because when i think so as well, because when i was a teacher used to work in in in a london borough as well, i areas and for i worked rural areas and for a lot of young boys, particularly coming out school, it was coming out of school, it was a chance for them to get an education. what was getting paid at the time and
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at the same time and particularly from a particularly if you're from a lower university lower income and university wasn't seen as an option was a chance for you to either go to university altogether tried get paid doing it and the time you actually leave the army five years or so you're still your early twenties and it gives you a great grounding to move on. maybe what they should do instead of paying people to join the army , they should get into the army, they should get into about 50 grants with a debt. yes, three years in the army. and then it would become very aspirational thing and more people up and it wouldn't people join up and it wouldn't cost anything, cost the government anything, particularly , particularly if when you pay, you 50 grand. so you you pay your 50 grand. so if you come out and you can't get a job and then you end up in a win win. moving onto the telegraph, steve, couple, a couple of interesting stories the telegraph for us. this telegraph produced for us. this main one one's about sturgeon. sturgeon trends sets years sturgeon trends sets back years . salmond so this is alex salmond talking actually having a say what's happening with a say on what's happening with scottish politics. it's not really made too much noise since a court case, which a certain court case, which you're probably allowed you're probably not allowed to mention saying that mention, but he's saying that they've ground on this . and
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they've lost ground on this. and if measuring this purely if you're measuring this purely on of scottish on the metric of scottish independence, yes, he very much has a point because anything that focus and makes that pulls focus and makes people issues with your people have issues with your political point of view means that you're not talking about i mean , the newspapers last mean, the newspapers of last week haven't really mentioned anything independence anything to do with independence . if the snp's been in, it's . no. if the snp's been in, it's all about the transition, all been about the transition, i have think that's a have to say. i think that's a good thing, partly because i'm against independence, against scottish independence, but honest but also i think it's honest that to see what it might that we get to see what it might look like because if the snp just on endlessly about just bang on endlessly about everything westminster's everything being westminster's fault and independence the fault and independence being the only solution , every problem, only solution, every problem, then quite get a sense of then you quite get a sense of what a what an regime might actually like. but we've had a little bit of a taste of that and i think it's quite interesting and enlightening it is interesting and enlightening. interesting and enlightening it is ininterviewand enlightening. interesting and enlightening it is ininterview went nlightening. interesting and enlightening it is ininterview went viraltening. interesting and enlightening it is ininterview went viral on ing. the interview went viral on twitter and on the internet with nicholas sturgeon where she was getting tripped up by own ideology and what it actually encapsulated beauty was that these trends, ideology where
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trans women are women , makes no trans women are women, makes no logical or coherent . so that was logical or coherent. so that was is somebody in the very same chair that you were in only last week was sort saying that this was being weaponised in order to undermine the case. but the whole point of it is that people are complaining that, well, you know, may be people who've know, there may be people who've absolutely, genuinely and sincerely women sincerely themselves to be women putting to one side, if you putting that to one side, if you do great, they set this self id legislation. it is so easy for cynical people such as this, this rapist to abuse that . there this rapist to abuse that. there are two discussions, really two topics of discussion. one would be the transition one would be people pretending to end up in a different prison. yes the inability to separate those two from the same discussion is part of why there's so much heat online. but it's endemic. i mean, it's woven into the warp and weft of the current legislation . and in my view, legislation. and in my view, that's exactly what's wrong with it. there's another interesting story on that front page of the telegraph. yeah steve, which is to prevent. and this to do with prevent. and this also me islamist also rings true for me islamist terror like illness and
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terror treated like illness and they mean that in good way, right, don't they? i mean, like over it's being treated to sympathetically is. yeah, yeah. yes not good as in they think do more of. yeah but they're trying to too. so officials have to too. be so officials have been that it's too focussed been told that it's too focussed on addressing the personal vulnerabilities extremists. vulnerabilities of extremists. you write like that and this you write it like that and this is you the telegraph is, as you say, the telegraph and you will be a certain well it's it's like talking to it's yeah it's like talking to you paperback but there you but in paperback but there will a certain of psychology will be a certain of psychology required because it's called prevent not called punish. and it's called trying to de—radicalize people . you're de—radicalize people. you're going to have to understand the brain de—radicalize. you brain to de—radicalize. or you could someone who's could shout at someone who's radicalised them radicalised and tell them they're see how far they're wrong and see how far that gets you. well, it's interesting but mean, interesting but i mean, i suppose themselves would suppose they themselves would would from the idea would would recoil from the idea that mental illness. that it's a mental illness. i say themselves. mean say they themselves. i mean those or those who are radicalised or indeed are attempting indeed those who are attempting to who believe to radicalise those who believe that is is justified that jihad is a is a justified holy war against outrageous that the west perpetrating these, they wouldn't see it as a mental illness. they would find your approach patronising one and
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approach the patronising one and they say no, treat us like proper opponents, villains proper opponents, like villains , us like enemies. that's what we want. and that's exactly what they want . but if it's saying they want. but if it's saying you're too focussed on vulnerabilities, yeah, it's a different mental different language than mental illness the headline it illness. the headline makes it seem much like, oh, lily seem very much like, oh, lily livered, what are livered, you know, what are empty. but i do think if it's dended empty. but i do think if it's derided closing, it won't just be loud noises. it has to be some of understanding some sort of understanding psychosis. of psychosis. well, it's kind of like suppose treated like which i suppose treated that whole process and that was an endless and process an endless and brutal process and actually , you and it didn't actually, you know, although it was know, never although it was framed it didn't them framed as it didn't stop them treating germans pretty brutally. what what do you think. i think simon and the problem is, is that once someone has ingested an ideology, whatever the ideology it is, is then a very very difficult to disavow them of that notion, because when you ingest an ideology and not only do you believe in the ideology, but it also gives you an i identity. and then to remove and to step back from an identity is an incredibly painful thing to do,
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which requires a presence of mind and also flexibility of mind and also flexibility of mind that a lot of people, particularly those who are more vulnerable to becoming terror ists. yeah a lot of them won't simply have that flexibility. it's more like a 12 step program, isn't it. yes. well, see, the way that we eradicate the zombies in the last of us, i don't know the fungus anyway. thatis don't know the fungus anyway. that is the front pages. so i'm coming up after the break. we've got the apology that keeps on giving human goodness sake giving human for goodness sake and for women. we'll see and surf's for women. we'll see you in a couple of minutes.
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the stall, a lot of training, travelling this family i mean there are many members, this family, but she's on telly. so we pay attention to her. i guess they previously said, well, recently, this is step one recently, but this is step one of said they'd give of the story said they'd give £100,000 by way of reparations to as part of a fund to grenada as part of a fund that's set up and straight that's being set up and straight away particularly away it's not going particularly well because she she well for her because she she a family were owners had family who were slave owners had an they got money an interest in they got money back. yes part . of the payment back. yes part. of the payment for what's the phrase they use the loss of their slave holdings . oh they got a lot back. yeah well, is the funds that was well, this is the funds that was only finally off only recently finally paid off or something wasn't it, from this. from the yeah, but this. from the loan. yeah, but £30,000 is what they receive. 200 now they're 200 years ago and now they're payin mean, did you paying £100,000. i mean, did you keep account you keep it in a current account you could done better having could have done better having any account was any savings account with it was would is roughly equivalent to 3 million today, is still million today, which is still that actually you that much actually if you i mean, know a lot money, but mean, i know a lot of money, but it's that much if you think it's not that much if you think is like basically closing down a substantial like you know withholding but withholding or whatever. but it's 100,000. it's also more than 100,000. yeah, yeah so they're making is
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still making a tidy profit off the back. yeah slaves granted she wrote a book think possibly made documentary certainly made a tv documentary certainly a the trevelyan a book about the trevelyan school of exploits and school of various exploits and it sounds like this one particularly of caused a particularly sort of caused a certain amount of disquiet. i don't know whether the others, you the next bit is you know, but the next bit is there now about the family's there are now about the family's role in the irish famine. the point that's been raised is that sir charles trevelyan . this is sir charles trevelyan. this is the person this first baronet trevelyan . the bad one. yeah, trevelyan. the bad one. yeah, the of all of them had job was responsible for the potato blight for the famine relief when the response to the potato blight killed millions of people. so the point about the reparations would be money that was made from slavery. yes. reparations come from that . reparations come from that. could you work out what money was made for this terrible role or a role done badly to do with the potato famine? i'm not sure, but certainly an apology might be linked if you're for one. yeah. why the heck aren't you apologising? apologising for the. but this is why it's a good
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idea never to, frankly, because it never it never ends. things just . you don't to just unravel. you don't come to a convenient as rule. a convenient not as rule. speaking francis to speaking of which, francis to the guardian. far be it from me to your response for what is tiresome us grifter al tiresome us race grifter al sharpton up to no good to see that we remaining impartial simon so al sharpton wounds that the uk could suffer us police brutality we about deep reform and he is on the eve a two day visit to the uk. he has said that systemic racism and culture of policing that produces brutality must be address . and brutality must be address. and this is the problem when . you this is the problem when. you have people from the united states commenting on things that they know relatively little to nothing about. we do have the same problems when it comes police brutality that they have in the united states because we do not have and this is most important thing that people miss all the time. we do carry guns in this . they don't generally in this. they don't generally i mean, there are occasional shootings, but they have to be
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specifically accorded donate to the to of the officers. but of course of course i do but the vast majority of citizens this country don't carry guns inside it's as well. yeah yeah. so because so when in united states when there is a stop search immediately things are because a police officer doesn't know if the citizen is carrying a gun so automatically it's a high stakes game, whereas this country, the stakes are much lower because nobody very few people carry guns presumed to be. and of course is coming off the back of having given an address at the funeral of ty . and nichols is funeral of ty. and nichols is the most recent appalling outrage . but this was committed outrage. but this was committed by five black police officers . by five black police officers. well, exactly. and this was committed by five black police officers. and it was an awful incident, like you said. let's just make that absolutely clear and we all hope that those those police officers get brought to justice and they get dealt with in the harshest way, because what happened was awful . but the what happened was awful. but the problem is, is what happens when
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you get us style identity politics imported home. so into this country and then it digest it when the realities it's two different countries to police forces to completely different cultures absolutely and i'm afraid to say i don't think al—shabaab is going to be alive to those nuances mind steve telegraph now according to isaiah , i remember rightly, i isaiah, i remember rightly, i actually looked it all flesh is grass and all the goodness there of is the flower of the field . of is the flower of the field. but the church is maybe taking a little too literally, possibly church of england is looking at human composting, which makes you think they be struggling to get those flowerbeds sorted . but get those flowerbeds sorted. but the bishop's got establish a consultation group to assess theological considerations as theological considerations as the church looks to meet net zero targets and the buzzer off. and that's the thing that changes this story because now said net zero people who are predisposed to hate this hate this but about it, what's the difference between cremation and
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some one of the other options. so you've got instead of just burial , you so you've got instead of just burial, you then have the human composting which is using a sort of some sort of chemical to break the human down. is it cool 7 break the human down. is it cool ? we've got microbes involved in this because we all we're all compost in the end just takes the worms a while to get into the worms a while to get into the coffin. it's not as if no worms can go about in space. and so is this chemical way of so this is this chemical way of doing things use this lye, this alkaline metal hydroxide. yeah we have a bit of experience with because at uni we've got the scary story to tell you why should really watch out for alkaline . yeah everyone thinks alkaline. yeah everyone thinks acids are bad but there was a story of the guy who's got some some alkaline spelt as a solution, then dried off. so he's got like a white powder right picks with some right picks a box with some white on it, moves it white powder on it, moves it away the water and away just goes on the water and the reactivate it as the fingers reactivate it as a side solution and burns his fingers off while all the skin off the front. so then and this is what you do as a chemist you wash hands before and wash your hands before and after. to the yes. after. go to the toilet. yes. okay as a chef, when
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okay right. so as a chef, when you're cutting chillies, don't want love yourself with . that want to love yourself with. that idea . no, but it's just idea. no, but it's just a chemical. i think it would work. i heard of a thing a few years ago and i don't know whether it caught on. i think they were doing it in scandinavia, which was treating was essentially like treating human the way that they human cadavers the way that they instant coffee is a sort of freeze process. freeze drying process. so be like freezing and then like snap freezing and then shattered ultrasound. you shattered ultrasound. and so you become granulated and then you could just beat. well, i mean, you wouldn't actually used to make into a hot drink but but the point is you can be dispersed quite quite easily and it's very low energy use by comparison cremation comparison with cremation i think probably a pretty i think is probably a pretty i mean, does feel mean, that does always feel me like needlessly dramatic and like a needlessly dramatic and gruelling process . you know, gruelling process. you know, this is a happy as i've seen you all on there's got to be a moment that you need do need the moment that you need do need the moment where you register that that's it there's two to whatever anyway surfing news now francis this is in the daily mail and it does seem that some mail or is found daily and
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previously all female space. yes indeed.so previously all female space. yes indeed. so this is pro surfing legend bethany hamilton , boycott legend bethany hamilton, boycott world surf league , transgender world surf league, transgender policy . and so this is an policy. and so this is an inspiration lady. when she was just 13 years old, she overcame a short shark attack . very a short shark attack. very severe injury, now serves two. one of them is an absolutely brutally in surfer and has come out and said that she will not be surfing with trans athletes because men are better at sport basically and in particular sarah jane lauer said yes, i have seen photographs of people who is one of the among all the transgender trans women athletes is one of the ones that really does you do fail is it looks close to a you know a brass up sketch. i mean is highly provocative . yes. said ryan provocative. yes. said ryan levison . it's like, you know , levison. it's like, you know, the hulk, wearing a bit of lip. but yeah, you know, but then i don't i mean, this is the thing,
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isn't it? is it it's not up to me to make the dividing. but australians surfing legend kelly slater , actually american born slater, actually american born and bred and still in florida. yeah, i don't know if we can trust the male anymore. i mean , trust the male anymore. i mean, but see this is the problem is that obviously, you know, we want to live in a society where everybody is equal everybody is treated fairly. and i we all aspire to live in that society. the problem comes when we ignore biological reality and biological reality and biological males start getting involved in female sport. biological males start getting involved in female sport . and involved in female sport. and the reality is, is physically mao is a bigger the stronger that faster quicker they just better does it matter i mean i assume it does except it does but it doesn't seem like the obvious sport where it would matter. it might you know anything with upper body strength . yes. and men strength. yes. women and men shouldn't other. shouldn't compete each other. surfing, on of surfing, standing on a bit of floating wood, maybe, you know, lower the centre of gravity and i about women's i don't know about women's intuition, they might have it . i intuition, they might have it. i think it is interesting. i mean , i don't know how to solve the
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sport problem, but the same discussion happens about brits no having categories. no longer having categories. there is no male advantage. there is no male advantage. there is no male advantage. there is testosterone doesn't make better at knocking out single . okay, staying single. okay, staying transgression. steve the express are relishing bbc discomfort having failed to adequately defend jake from casual phobia phobia. yes, you've invented a new word to the air of apologised to fail to protect j.k. rowling on baseless transphobia smears. this express article doesn't really say in the article what was said which really i read the whole thing and what are you going to point out the thing so i had to give lip and it was evan davies who was blasted after he hosted a segment bbc radio talking segment on bbc radio talking about games. this is about games. so already this is becoming of journey from becoming a bit of a journey from news. and there's hogwarts legacy that's come some legacy that's come out. some gamer said that the people should boycott hogwarts legacy, claiming rowling was using a platform to spread hate. i mean, yeah, i'm already not buying your game, so you got other
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things to do in my life and that's it. but it goes it goes away if you stick the classic rule argue point not the person. yeah we'd solve this yeah. if you've got a beef with something that j.k. said, i find that argue about and then we can all actually get a proper argument that begging the question been found to be a much more effective you just it's understood is consensus. understood there is consensus. j.k. we know is j.k. rowling, we know is transphobic she's used very go. you know it i don't need to ask you do i know you don't need to ask me anything you already know my opinion simon. ask me anything you already know my opinion simon . we're at the my opinion simon. we're at the halfway point now tuned for moaning taliban go woke get sued and disney capitulates to china again . we'll see you in a couple again. we'll see you in a couple of minutes .
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france's daily mail now where familiar with military men who find civilian life rather lacklustre after the excitement the war. but it's a surprise find the taliban in that mode some oh absolutely so taliban are moaning about how dull life is since taking afghanistan and it's rather like kurt cobain said the beauty is a struggle and i'm new to the interview. one former soldier called nafi who claimed miss the war as he said about it, and he was moaning about spending his life not roaming around, causing random terror and bloodshed and saying, i sometimes miss the jihadi life for all the good things he had in all ministry this little work for me to do. therefore, i spend of my time on twitter that is very sad. i have some sympathy , i have to say, some sympathy, i have to say, because, you know, these are noble fighting men who spent their their golden hiding their their golden years hiding out in the rugged . and now out in the rugged. and now they're to adopt the lifestyle of the civil service. i don't i
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can't imagine it's going to be an easy fit for them. no high speed wi fi living dream. they're on twitter all day. so no , i mean, obviously, there's no, i mean, obviously, there's probably more fighting on twitter. they said, yeah, twitter. they ever said, yeah, it like it's probably it seems like it's probably some simulation play. simulation games they can play. i remember the there were a lot of like, you know, those military you military obituaries that you read the daily telegraph, read in the daily telegraph, have of the military have anthologies of the military obituaries, always obituaries, and they're always like these people who fly lancasters with one wing missing, you know, and all glass, know, oxygen mask and glass, you know, oxygen mask and they pass out and they , to get they pass out and they, to get they pass out and they, to get the plane landed back safely and they have extraordinary adventures. crosses adventures. and when crosses and then ends you know and then the war ends you know and they spend the next 30 years working at an insurance company growing and they just go growing roses and they just go quietly mad and i don't have instinctive sympathy for . the instinctive sympathy for. the taliban and not suppose not i mean, obviously suppose to some extent, you know, it might be misread as as i sympathising with their cause, but as a as a dynamic to move from water peace is not easily negotiated . you is not easily negotiated. you know can you just imagine the taliban wednesday going in taliban on a wednesday going in
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brother these hump brother are these today's hump day fitted for them maybe to help them from afghanistan the daily mail us up the khyber pass and over the hindu kush for the latest in anti blasphemy measures in pakistan . yeah, measures in pakistan. yeah, pakistan media regulator wikipedia services for hurting muslims sentiment by not removing purportedly blasphemous content from the site critics denounced this action as a blow digital rights which i'm sure they went oh did that seems like not going to win that argue with them so under the controversial blasphemy blasphemy laws anyone found guilty of insulting islam could be sentenced to death. but it says in the article the country is has yet to carry out capital punishment blasphemy don't remind them. yeah spur them on to do more daily mail pakistan telecom telecommunication authority , the telecommunication authority, the pta . says that it's blocked pta. says that it's blocked wikipedia because of a 48 hour deadune wikipedia because of a 48 hour deadline to remove content. oh, it's religion being open minded.
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well, of course. but the truth is, of course, this is how religion dies. i mean, this is what happened to us in the 19th century. you know, lots of third sons were sent off to university study single copy study theology. single copy darwin to enter the darwin is allowed to enter the sanctuary and before know it, they've all lost their faith. it's a terrible thing. francis. is there? is there middle path? well i think this is like eli , well i think this is like eli, you identified. this is a problem. we've forms of extreme is that they don't tolerate any form of dissent. well any of rationalism. yes, exactly . i rationalism. yes, exactly. i mean, it has to stand on faith . mean, it has to stand on faith. and of course, wikipedia is i mean , i find wikipedia, you know mean, i find wikipedia, you know tends to try and send is that worms of doubt cynicism into things i hold dear i've learned things i hold dear i've learned things i hold dear i've learned things i didn't want hear about bruce springsteen on wikipedia . bruce springsteen on wikipedia. but hey, listen about but you didn't vannett. no, i didn't. you have to man up. frances this next one from the telegraph. i think about as firmly in your wheelhouse as it could be without specifically being about podcasting comedians. yes yes,
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education minister clare catena i swear they had a different education minister last week. they seem to have minutes every minutes. they seem to be getting you on and what she's trying to do is make essentially illegal for people to be cancelled of academics , speakers to be academics, speakers to be cancelled or to lose jobs because of views that they hold. and to me, this complete the right thing to do this is what we've needed the higher education sector for a long time where it is deemed to get rid of people or for people to have their careers curtailed simply because they do not adhere to a particular orthodoxy . i mean, particular orthodoxy. i mean, it's quite similar to the pakistan story of the previous example, wasn't it? it's just a little bit. but you know, new world orthodoxies, which is not always obvious, have a sort of religious flavour. if you go against the text, if you go against the text, if you go against grain, you find against the grain, you find yourself out your are excommunicated there's excommunicated and there's no comeback would you
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comeback. would say, well, you talk about islamic talk about the islamic fundamentalists, but least fundamentalists, but at least they're about think they're honest about they think they're honest about they think they say, oh, this is they don't say, oh, this is a safe space. just go. no, if you if you start doing this again, we're going to cut your hands off so far on the show. yeah. protege yeah . up. say what? like protege yeah. up. say what? like about the taliban? yes pro. but say what you know. but this is a this is step in the right direction from this government who not been actually i mean, what if we a government, the tory government since 2010 right. 12 years and finally they're getting around to addressing the chilling effect of the of the cancel culture and the overwhelming dominance isn't it really the progressive left in all departments. it started out in i think it's anthropology or something. yes 73 wasn't it. and now it's in mass. yes it is. and now it's in mass. yes it is. and it's infected all different departments and it's come the point where even people, you know , who are moderate is jordan know, who are moderate is jordan peterson, who wanted come and then work at cambridge university and was prevented from doing . yeah this can't be
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from doing. yeah this can't be allowed to continue the entire point of universal is for young people to go to debate to share ideas , have their ideas ideas, have their ideas challenged . because by doing challenged. because by doing that not only you do your ideas improve, but get to have a better and sharper mind. and for me, that's the entire of university is not to create a essentially a bubble where only one set of ideas is allowed to flourish . quite right. steve, i flourish. quite right. steve, i can't believe you . anything can't believe you. anything further to add to that? no other. than i'm. i'm surprised it needs a new law. i would have thought some sort of unfair dismissal have been used dismissal could have been used before of. culture before some sort of. culture staying freedom of staying with freedom of expression. steve this time it's lisa simpson. had a tongue lisa simpson. she's had a tongue bitten her disney. yeah bitten for her by disney. yeah say you like about china . say what you like about china. yeah. disney of cut an episode of the simpsons , because there's of the simpsons, because there's something said in there. i've got the quote down here in the episode called one angry lisa, if you want to have a look there's an instructor who says, behold the wonders china. behold the wonders of china. bitcoin mines, labour bitcoin mines, forced labour camps where children make smartphones and look well. what
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did we expect to do? suppose did we expect to do? i suppose because it's a profit making organisation that's got shelled and stuff where they really going to do the moral fights. yeah, we want them to , but of yeah, we want them to, but of course they're never going to do it. all about the money. a it. it's all about the money. a huge i'm surprised they huge market. i'm surprised they just though. they took just read it though. they took the episode. could have the whole episode. could have had just say had a bit where they just say the of china, bitcoin the wonders of china, bitcoin mines delightfully optional mines, delightfully optional labour children make labour camps where children make smartphones can make a smartphones if they can make a radio friendly edit of eminem, they surely tweet clearly they can surely tweet clearly see. i quite agree you see. and i quite agree with you in there should be in fact maybe there should be a there be a new skill that there should be a new skill that al chat bots could be put to , ai chat bots could be put to, which we're going to be coming to on staying with the telegraph , our freedom of expression segment . children in wales are segment. children in wales are be prevented from speaking their preferred slang or english, as it's sometimes been. well, this a very interesting story actually welsh language school put into special because people speak too much english. it's almost like the little
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so—and—so's want to be employable when they leave . but employable when they leave. but inspectors found the primary school children english during lessons and were not encouraged to celebrate the welsh illness. celebrate their welsh ness? yes. no know it just doesn't ring , no know it just doesn't ring, does it? somehow is . i'm a 32 does it? somehow is. i'm a 32 welsh so i hear important speech. the elizabeth warren of wales they all getting down to the fractions. i didn't even if it's a 32 or a 32nd, i think it's a 32 or a 32nd, i think it's 87 130 to scare my little soldiers out of . yeah. so soldiers out of. yeah. so obviously a very, very dear me. yeah i, i don't it seems a bizarre thing to attack them. i would love to keep the welsh language alive but why be punishing children for like just wanting to be able to communicate i mean when i was at school in st evans in the seventies but that's wales. i know, i know. but my schooling i know, i know. but my schooling i know it's not quite the same grandad. both sides, especially on he had an on my mother's side. he had an accent. probably associate accent. you'd probably associate now somerset wiltshire now with somerset or wiltshire like that. they used to talk
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like that. so they used to talk in and the time we in hertfordshire and the time we were at school it was like minder because you did that. so you the telly. it was you watched on the telly. it was a bit of a courtney want to, you know, because that's what you see telly, that's what see on the telly, that's what the programmes, how the cool programmes, that's how you it just you sound, you know, it just that's it's gone. you can't that's it, it's gone. you can't rain it back. couldn't force rain it back. you couldn't force us to have your accent when simon why? he care simon, why? why does he care about welsh language? it's about the welsh language? it's like about the welsh language? it's uke one about the welsh language? it's like one bemoans the fact like no one bemoans the fact that cornish doesn't exist and few would . there's about few people would. there's about 13 of them in the outside studio . anyway, that's part three complete coming up in the last section , we have intimacy section, we have intimacy coordinators , mutilated teeth . coordinators, mutilated teeth. my coordinators, mutilated teeth. my being born in november might make you just an inch cleverer. we'll see you in a sec.
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and welcome back to headline steve. we will kick off this last section with the guardian and the latest in abolition of man news from google. yeah, it's not looking good for us. i'm afraid we've had a good innings, so far, but it's over and done with because the chatbot got say here. but it's not just chatbots ai chat box. google's trying trialling own chatbot . trialling its own ai chatbot. this is competition for this is the competition for chats right it's already got a better name . yes. because chat better name. yes. because chat gp is just the worst collection of letters. it's more than just it's weird how bad that is. yeah. t gb what about what have been branded this thing. so when they're rolling out, i'm slightly worried about this because clearly they're rolling it now, not because they it out now, not because they think it's ready, but because they need to compete. with microsoft that's gpt and microsoft using that's gpt and it's bing. why are you it's bing. so why are you worried about that's how all human progress achieved human progress has been achieved in or back to this in the past or back to this could the beatles , the beach could be the beatles, the beach boys again . this could boys all over again. this could be skynet. so should we bother testing it to make sure it won't
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kill? we've got to get it up against bill gates. go on. but there is a bit of an arms race with this being a start to use it in their search. i mean, imagine years from now imagine a few years from now one's using phrase google one's using the phrase google and it never and amazon seem bing. it never thought that would happen. i've actually using the edge actually ended up using the edge browser, was a wrong browser, so i was a bit wrong about it about about many thought it about yeah, it. but the it's the yeah, about it. but the it's the ai will integrated the search ai will be integrated the search results it is for bing so results like it is for bing so this be able to write this will be able to write essays for you it'll be able to provide text amusing text for wedding speech, sort of wedding speech, that sort of thing. of that stuff uses thing. all of that stuff it uses natural is the way that natural language is the way that they but bing have they phrase it. but bing have incorporated chat and it search and weekend people said and over the weekend people said that they were testing out the ability to questions that ability to ask questions that were a thousand characters were up to a thousand characters as long and. that's nothing in comparison missus comparison to what my missus asked at least a paragraph of asked me at least a paragraph of scene before i woke with scene setting before i woke with a question. runs ask jeeves? a question. who runs ask jeeves? is that still a service? yeah, i think that was put out by google quite i was going quite a while ago. i was going to jeeves would a great to ask jeeves would be a great one it can incorporate one if it can incorporate chatbot technology so that it actually in the of would
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actually replies in the of would house yeah it house butler. yeah i think it would be more satisfy would be much more satisfy change to jarvis like in all change it to jarvis like in all the marvel film yes yeah. what do you think, francis? you feel worried about it. you speak for a living, do i worry about it. it was very interesting about chat. is, i think is going chat. gpt is, i think is going to be death of copywriting . to be death of copywriting. yeah. particularly advertising agencies because you can tell is already at the point now where you can type into chat and gpt and it can give you a press release which then needs to be tweaked and this is something people pay hundreds of thousand hundreds of pounds for with not thousands, particularly for things copywriting . if things like copywriting. if i was the advertising industry, was in the advertising industry, i'm not because i'm a good but if i was i'd be very worried certainly yeah brochure is marketing material. yes, possibly the absolute headline slogan. but you never know. frances, it the times now and somebody else who speaks for a living. ian mckellen if his natural human expression is attack in the theatre. yes, he and he's worried about intimacy
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coordinates is an intimacy code . it is all the people who when a couple are getting intimate on set , they're the ones making set, they're the ones making sure that no one necessarily groping is happening and no one is re groping. exactly and he's come out and saying, no, this is this is ruining the purity of the moment is what he's doing is it's making it seem stiff and unnatural and tissue should be allowed to act director should be allowed to perform and he also says shouldn't but he also is angry about the creation of jobs. he says such as dramaturgs. yes which himself admits he have no idea what they do. and i had to look it up and i still don't quite understand it sounds like it's a sort of geeky version of a director who gets in the way. well, we'll see. the problem is, is has happened more and more we had rosie on my show, greg , to talk rosie on my show, greg, to talk about this. and rosie is a dancer and had her own dance company is because of the
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corporatisation of theatre dance you now have whole raft of jobs come in as a result. so whereas before theatre tended to be quite lean because wasn't a lot of money in it and now because of money in it and now because of the national theatre and sponsored by p p wc and all these other companies, you got this bloating. so you've got all these theatre companies with jobs and no one really knows what these jobs actually do. pfices what these jobs actually do. prices are up and. it's leaving less money available for play. i mean, i remember watching shakespeare in and i quite like the idea. i don't know whether who wrote the screenplay for that may have been like fantasising to some extent, but the idea seemed the the idea seemed to be the players were stage players were on stage shakespeare was at the shakespeare himself was at the at listening to what at the theatre listening to what was and what needed was going wrong and what needed tweaking. there was little tweaking. and there was a little bit give and take, bit of sort of give and take, but it's generally a sort a kind of creation , a kind of sense of of creation, a kind of sense of it being , a of a crucible, it being, a bit of a crucible, whereas now feels much more like a permanent committee stage. well, it. and it was far well, this is it. and it was far more with ordinary .
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more connected with ordinary. you had the groundlings of people who came and stood and watched , whereas now the tickets watched, whereas now the tickets to the theatre are incredibly expensive and theatre has become ever more woke. so to the point we now have a non—binary joan of arc because you need to say something on the look it's because it's loads of money you have to have an intimacy coordinator we have on this show i still quite understand why but i still quite understand why but i think francis yeah i think francis looking. yeah exactly said many times exactly as i've said many times before i've been proven not guilty into the court of law but of all the people in intimacy coordinator force, mckellen must be the one because you be the best one because you actually say him, you actually get to say to him, you shall not. oh, it's very good, very . now staged, independent very. now staged, independent welcome break from vaguely disturbing dystopia trends and into some good old fashioned , into some good old fashioned, ill advised self—mutilation. yeah idea of going to turkey to get your teeth done and dental tourists have having teeth mutilated at clinics in turkey. there's a few stories of people who've had it and then they in the article in the independent
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blame it on love island tea this trend not just love island trend it's not just love island . i was watching the latest series the apprentice and series of the apprentice and some them teeth that are some of them have teeth that are they look human they look they don't look human they look false. why are we aspiring look like had your teeth like you've had your teeth knocked to have them knocked down. i had to have them replaced. but go through various stories who arrived in stories of molly who arrived in turkey making an turkey after making an appointment what appointment to get what she thought she paid thought was veneers. she paid £3,000 for a package deal, which included a consultation via whatsapp, luxury for three whatsapp, a luxury for three days breakfast and brand new teeth. that breakfast souk and what they do is find your teeth down to sharp points on which they can then kind of glue force basically they. riffing if basically don't they. riffing if you're dropping three grand on it and you've got three nights and a luxury hotel, you don't want the good you want the want the good hotel you want the money to on the teeth. money to be spent on the teeth. i that's true, francis? i i think that's true, francis? i think story about when think you have story about when to be born in this is true. so this is a story all about how if you were later on the you were later on in the academic year, you are less likely to be successful academically, which makes a lot of sense because at that time,
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particularly early on in your academic career , five or six academic career, five or six months can make a lot of difference someone who is born in 1st of september and someone who is born in the 31st of july, that's practically an academic yeah that's practically an academic year. well, funnily enough , my year. well, funnily enough, my son was born 31st of july and we did worry about that. and i think it actually does take a few years to up but at this point is 50. i think back you do nofice point is 50. i think back you do notice it was sport more though it's definitely it's it's definitely is a fact it's been observed many times that most the hockey players most of the ice hockey players in the top leagues in america were in the in january or were born in the in january or february how february because that's how their runs and so their school view runs and so on. it's actually quite on. but it's actually quite interesting looking at the actual numbers. got an actual numbers. they've got an average the average attainment score, the score november, funnily in score is in november, funnily in september, obviously you don't want be having birthday want to be having your birthday as arrive school. as soon as you arrive school. you excited yet november? you too excited yet november? that's however it and that's 3046. however it is. and july is 2930. so it's about 3% of whatever it is. it's not like this not an earth shattering. it's not a life changing. it's
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not life change. but what is actually quite interesting, if we go to the example, you we go to the sport example, you are more likely make it as a are more likely to make it as a premier league football. if you're born in october, november yeah, interesting yeah, but here's the interesting thing. you are not more to make it as an elite premier league footballer unless . you are born footballer unless. you are born in the summer because you are small and under. in the summer because you are small and under . anyway, i could small and under. anyway, i could go into it and i'm boring well. there we go, tonight's show. but take another quick look at tuesday's front pages. the daily mail has fears grow of shrinking military will get no extra funding from the budget. generals warn pm's mpc warned that amid a global crisis, britain will defence's telegraph as sturgeon trend trail set us back year salmon. the paper trust come back has damaged the tories posters. the guardian a catastrophic earthquake in turkey and the mirror moment of hope amidst the horror . those hope amidst the horror. those real front pages that you have it.thank real front pages that you have it. thank you to stephen in ireland and frances foster headuneis ireland and frances foster headline is tomorrow evie andrew
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search and rescue teams work through the night after a catastrophic earthquake devastates parts of turkey and syria . good morning. it is six syria. good morning. it is six a caucus tuesday, the 7th of february. thank you for your company this morning. you're watching and listening to breakfast on news with eamonn breakfast on gb news with eamonn holmes isabel webster holmes and isabel webster in leading this morning, leading our news this morning, 4310 people are confirmed dead , 4310 people are confirmed dead, but that number expected to rise after a 7.8 magnitude quake tore through parts of turkey and syria . british search and rescue
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