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. gb news. so today the general synod of the church of england will debate the motion of same sex marriage. this follows the recent meeting of the college of the bishops to recommend new services of blessings same services of blessings for same sex couples. our reporter ray addison has been finding out more and joins us from westminster good morning, westminster now. good morning, ray . yes, good morning, beth. ray. yes, good morning, beth. it's long been a very controversial issue. the state church refusing to conduct same sex marriage ceremony . now, sex marriage ceremony. now, today , the general synod behind today, the general synod behind me will be debating a motion put forward by bishops to allow same sex blessing . joining me now is sex blessing. joining me now is jane ozanne. she's a member of the general synod. jane thanks for coming here. now you're tabling two amendments to this motion. what are they? well, the first amendment actually asks the apology that the bishops have given to be delayed until they actually do something that removes the discrimination and the cause of so much pain and

harm to the lgbtq city. we've had years of apologies. we've had, you know , since i've been had, you know, since i've been involved 2006, we've had archbishop apologising for the pain and hurt , and yet it pain and hurt, and yet it continues. so it's hollow. it only serves to make them try and feel better, but doesn't actually help the lgbt community at all. the second amendment, which arguably is perhaps the more meaty one, is calling for a debate in the summer about whether we can have equal marriage or not. we've been fudging these issues for far too long. even these blessings that aren't really blessings , aren't really blessings, actually, they're just blessing the individuals. actually, they're just blessing the individuals . they're not the individuals. they're not blessing union or their blessing the union or their partnership. we need to get to the core of the problem. understand? can someone like myself have a sexual relationship with another woman in a committed marriage ? and is in a committed marriage? and is that something that god wants to bless and celebrate and do people who believe that? are they christian or aren't they? and it's that debate that we need to have. and i'm asking for that as an amendment this

afternoon . now, i think many afternoon. now, i think many people in church of england people in the church of england would well, here. would say, well, hold on here. we're talking allowing we're talking about allowing blessings . that is a step in the blessings. that is a step in the right direction . why that? right direction. why is that? not enough ? because the not far enough? because the discrimination continues. we're not equal and we aren't clear as to whether that can be a real union or not. so much of this has been fudged. so much of the papers that we've received and even the blessings themselves are written. so they read one way by the conservatives and another way by the press. and to me that's not holy. it's not godly. and i know it's not just and you know, we've had years now of debating this and we know that we're split. we know that there are two very different ways of looking at this. and with the decision we have to make is, is our tent big enough? are we prepared to accommodate a plurality of views, which is what's happened in other countries ? it's what's happened countries? it's what's happened up scotland , new zealand, up in scotland, new zealand, canada, you know, or are we canada, or you know, or are we going to stick to this very narrow. understood thing that

only a small percentage of the church want? we've got research studies that show now that a majority of anglicans around the country want same sex marriage, but there inhibit it by doing that because the synod won't make a decision. what sort of impact do you feel that the church of england's stance on same sex marriage has had on the lgbt plus community and their relationship with people of faith who just happened to have different sexual orientation ? different sexual orientation? well, so many of my lgbt friends are absolutely angry with the church. they've suffered quite a painful rejection by their friends and their family. painful rejection by their friends and their family . they friends and their family. they believe god hates them. they believe god hates them. they believe the church judges them and, you know, it's really it's not just them. it's their friends and family, too , who friends and family, too, who feel deeply upset that they cannot celebrate their love in church. and we see that in the latest census figures where we can see that, you know, people leaving the church in their droves , they think the church is droves, they think the church is hypocritical out of church and

doesn't stand for the one thing that god is which is a loving god who accepts us, just as he has created us. now there are other churches where same sex couples could go and get married. why is it important that the church of england joins that the church of england joins that list? well personally, because it's my home. so many of us, we grew up in our churches. you know, it's not a concept. it's a place where we meet with our friends and families, where we belong. and yet we sadly are made to feel second class citizens. but the other bigger issue is that it's the issue actually is that it's the establish church england . it establish church of england. it is the state official church that should at the moment should serve everybody , but at the serve everybody, but at the moment only serves the lucky gene club who happen to be heterosexual. well, i know parliament in particularly are very concerned about this now and are looking at the synod to see whether it will become a place where all are welcome and all are served or whether it's just a few. you're making a

speech later this afternoon. how are you expecting to be received? well synod is split, but i'm from all calculations, i think both. we have three houses and synod. the house of leti, the house of clergy in the house of bishops. i think the lay and clergy members, the majority are probably behind me. the big question will be whether the bishops choose to be. but the bishops choose to be. but if the bishops choose to be. but if the bishops choose to be. but if the bishops choose block bishops choose to block progress, they choose not to progress, if they choose not to be the people who say no . i do be the people who say no. i do think parliament in particular will want to hold them to account because they will be seen the ones who stop being seen as the ones who stop being the of anglican church the will of the anglican church in today. janice and in england today. janice and general synod member, thank you very much. did approach very much. now, we did approach the church of england for a statement and they sent me the following . they said, the church following. they said, the church has begun to change. we've realised how badly we've realised just how badly we've treated lgbti plus people. our eyes have been opened to the harm that we've done. that's a reality that must continue to change. okay. thank you, ray. really interesting, isn't it?

let me know what you think. gb views that gb news dot uk you've already been getting in touch with me, duncan said. the church of england needs cut any of england needs to cut any affiliation the government. affiliation with the government. it's religious, but it's it's not religious, but it's unthinking we force unthinking that we should force any hs any religion to change its belief . and on politics, i said belief. and on politics, i said we these cabinet reshuffle we had these cabinet reshuffle yesterday , the creation of four yesterday, the creation of four new departments at a cost of 100 million quid to we taxpayers. we're going to talk about those throughout show. sasha has throughout the show. sasha has said mr. sunak can promise to heal world, but 12 months heal the world, but in 12 months time, promises will time, these promises will mean nothing. i'm afraid we nothing. because i'm afraid we will by then have a labour government will government and new problems will develop we will have more develop and we will have more false promises and a circle of politics continue right after the break. should mps who lose their seats? there might be a few of those on the conservative side. if the polls were anything to believe at the next election, should they ge t £100,000 payoff? should they get £100,000 payoff? we're delve that we're going to delve into that question short break. question after a short break. hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. fog clearing across central and southern parts of the uk during

the rest of the morning and then dry for many into the afternoon. but it will turn increasingly wet and windy in the north. now you can see the contrast across the uk. high pressure close to the uk. high pressure close to the south like winds and clear skies, allowing frost and fog to form by dawn this morning. but the weather front into the weather front moving into northwest scotland and bringing a strengthening winds, gales 65 to 75 mile per hour gusts for the outer hebrides and some heavy rain for a time during the afternoon. as that's pushing south, it will push cloud into northern england, west wales as well cornwall. but to the well as cornwall. but to the southeast actually of southeast actually plenty of sunshine once the fog lifts and temperatures fairly widely across the uk reaching 8 to 10 celsius. now the front across scotland pushes south through the evening and it will fall as snow over the high ground as it clears. then wintry showers follow for northern scotland , follow for northern scotland, parts of northern ireland as well. snow and hail in places mainly over the hills. the front weakens , though, as it pushes weakens, though, as it pushes south. it will prevent a frost

in the far south with some drizzle to begin things on thursday. otherwise, for north wales . northern england. wales. northern england. southern frosty southern scotland. frosty conditions and bright skies. southern scotland. frosty conditions and bright skies . but conditions and bright skies. but for northern ireland as well as for northern ireland as well as for much of the rest of scotland, we've got those showers continuing to pile in a gusty wind as well for the far north. the rain and the drizzle and the low cloud clears quite quickly during the morning in the south. and then sunny skies once again, 8 to 10 celsius across much of england and wales, feeling colder , though, wales, feeling colder, though, for scotland and northern ireland with those blustery showers moving through. the showers moving through. the showers tend to ease into showers do tend to ease into thursday evening . we'll see a thursday evening. we'll see a lot of cloud arrive into the north, in the west from the atlantic and that's the start of mild episode of weather heading into the weekend . mostly cloudy into the weekend. mostly cloudy skies this weekend , but some skies this weekend, but some brightness in the south and temperatures rising for most .

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pound write this story. stephen i can't wait to hear what you think about this as a former mp. yeah, there is an idea, a suggestion that when msps lose their seats, this is a commons administration committee. they've called for a special ceremony for mp in their ceremony for the mp in their family where they are presented with medal by the commons with a medal by the commons speaker time in office speaker for their time in office because losing their because apparently losing their seat can be an emotional and traumatic experience and the noble enterprise of public office should be defended, encouraged and recognise . i encouraged and recognise. i think we sort of agree with that bit personally, i'm not sure about the ceremony and then as a goodbye for having only had £84,000 a year salary, they should get a thousand per £100,000 pay off to say i'm ever sorry you weren't good enough for your constituents to vote for your constituents to vote for you. there you go. that's 100 grand. well i'm not entirely sure if this is going to be retrospect active. that's my first. the idea of getting first. but the idea of getting a medal, obviously i do. medal, you know, obviously i do. i the end the war, i mean, at the end of the war, my dad got a number medals. my dad got a number of medals. i know virtually everybody in the one medal. everybody got was

just active medal, just the active service medal, just the active service medal, just because you've just as you got because you've been service. been in active service. yeah. the that should actually the idea that we should actually get medal. what for? for get a medal. what for? for surviving, i surviving, for being there. i mean, some the greatest mean, some of the greatest crooks and charlatans on god's green elected to green earth have been elected to parliament. and parliament. so rogues and rascals, you know, and the idea of them queuing won't of them queuing up, i won't mention names, but i mean, mention the names, but i mean, i'm can them i'm sure we can have them spinning around your head. spinning around in your head. yeah speaker but imagine yeah and the speaker but imagine a the speaker at a burka had been the speaker at the time you've got some of the time and you've got some of the time and you've got some of the in the expenses the people in the expenses scandal, you know, you know, you've trousered god how you've trousered god knows how much a little gold much money. here's a little gold medal. you know, there's a quality street trophy. you quality street gold trophy. you know, if know, it's embarrassing if there's any on a slightly serious note, if there's one major parliament major problem, the parliament has nowadays, it's the disconnect parliament disconnect between parliament and the people. can you imagine the voter looking the typical voter looking at say, know, i've say, gosh, you know, i've totally changed my view on parliament they're going totally changed my view on pa give|ent they're going totally changed my view on pa give him they're going totally changed my view on pa give him 100 they're going totally changed my view on pa give him 100 bags1ey're going totally changed my view on pa give him 100 bags of"re going totally changed my view on pa give him 100 bags of sand)ing totally changed my view on pa give him 100 bags of sand and to give him 100 bags of sand and a little medal to and a nice little medal to wear and then you're going to wear it in then you're going to wear it in the street outside. embarrassing didn't those didn't know that one of those suggestions was completely neglect human neglect to factor in human behave here and the aware because you don't want if you

because if you don't want if you really not like your mp and really do not like your mp and you want them to hav e £100 you don't want them to have £100 bonus losing, going bonus for losing, you're going to vote like it distorts the very notion of democracy. and what's with this picture? what's wrong with this picture? you get rewarded for losing. yeah, completely. that's a really good point that i hadn't thought of mean, obviously thought of. i mean, obviously the thing is completely the whole thing is completely tone deaf, but you've clearly under current circumstances, under the current circumstances, i believe that that i can't even believe that that they have allowed story to they have allowed this story to get the press, because with get into the press, because with all of the things that are going on at the moment, this the on at the moment, this is the last thing the world that last thing in the world that the pubuc last thing in the world that the public be hearing. i do public want to be hearing. i do think that there is a case for trying attract a higher trying to attract a higher calibre of people into politics. but the point that has been made by james robert from the taxpayer payers alliance and i think he absolutely nails it. he said that being elected to parliament should be privileged enough. and so on the one enough. yeah and so on the one hand, yes, you want to attract a higher calibre of people because actually in the grand scheme of things,, £84,000 of the things, £84,000 for some of the people who could go into politics is a much lower salary than they would be earning if

they were, say, working in the private or working in private sector or working in finance or in a bank or finance or working in a bank or something. those the something. and those are the sort people we need to sort of people that we need to be to take in, be encouraging to take part in, in public service. but on the other want to other hand, you want people to do it they believe in do it because they believe in pubuc do it because they believe in public service, that they they believe public service is believe that public service is a very important privilege in itself. so the salary itself. and so the salary doesn't really matter to that. so you don't want people to be going into it because they have purely financial interests doing it. we don't we it. we just don't think we should also be speaking as an ex sailor, hospital porter and busker doctor. think it's time busker doctor. i think it's time we have a bit of rough in parliament as but what's parliament as well, but what's interesting, walker, the interesting, charles walker, the chairman charles walker, chairman of sir charles walker, he me in 2001. and he stood against me in 2001. and ihave he stood against me in 2001. and i have to say , he he tried to i have to say, he he tried to report me for buying ice creams for a group of kids on the drayton green estate. he thought i was treating. yes, i doubled my majority . well done. but let my majority. well done. but let me just think about it. so what is life like then as an mp? stephen, you've got a you're £84,000 a year salary , but then

£84,000 a year salary, but then you also get your property supplements it know very, very few people. look when i was first elected i was mp for eaung first elected i was mp for ealing north, which is about 40 minutes from westminster and yet, you know, i could have claimed yet, you know, i could have claime d £23,000 for claimed £23,000 a year for a second in defensible . now, second home in defensible. now, this all came about because margaret mean most margaret thatcher i mean most problems actually go back to margaret thatcher my margaret thatcher in my experience, tony blair, experience, i say tony blair, but there a there's a read but there is a there's a read across that. i like the similarities. you know, the thing is mp salary back in the seventies, in the eighties should have increased. she didn't want the public opprobrium increases. so she said, listen, expenses are the answer. i mean, we could come £200 a month for flowers in our offices. think could also, offices. i think we could also, if have had a second home, if even have had a second home, we could still claim for a hotel without supporting evidence. without any supporting evidence. all swept out. and all of that got swept out. and to fair, when tony blair to be fair, when tony blair found out, for example, that we didn't speeding tickets didn't get speeding tickets as mps constable had to mps, the chief constable had to approve if you got a ticket for approve. if you got a ticket for speeding, which of course nobody. wiped all that nobody. so he wiped all that out. it's got cleaned

out. but it's he's got cleaned up. leaving mps. up. yeah. maybe leaving mps. well they're not out of pocket. 84 grand i know. no. of people claim quite a lot of expenses with the expenses of your staff. that's, the reality that's, that's the reality of generally daughters generally wives and daughters and members on occasion and family members on occasion that has been the case. look, one of the reasons they give as well for this is saying that because employees feel that there is almost like a consolation prize because they feel they've been hounded out for talk because of for brutal talk because of a brutal, toxic political culture. well, this this was created by the politicians themselves , the politicians themselves, right? yes. and it is politics. and yeah, i mean, i would love better people to go into politics. i often sit with people on this desk and i think, why aren't you in politics? why aren't and aren't you a politician? and sometimes you look at me and say, why were you in politics? yeah, well, i like i like be yeah, well, i like i like to be able on my own able to speak freely on my own behalf. and i think within within conservative party , within the conservative party, there's a lot of there's obviously a lot of pressure people to not pressure on people to not promote views . but promote conservative views. but also think the idea of sort of

also i think the idea of sort of being whipped into voting for certain things into into having to take particular party line to take a particular party line is unappealing to a lot of people are free thinkers, people who are free thinkers, which is a problem because you need political parties to attract thinkers that attract free thinkers so that you actually come up with you can actually come up with ideas that are slightly outside of the box and not the sorts of things that we have been seeing time time and time again time and time and time again yet. and don't think anybody's yet. and i don't think anybody's going party, going within political party, never very long. so never last very long. so nobody's going into nobody's going to go into parliament and i don't want parliament and say, i don't want to an mp because it might to be an mp because it might be too toxic. that too horrible and toxic. that thing on queen thing they found on queen elizabeth, the first stagecoach was feign what i claim, was somebody feign what i claim, get fear of and get fear out of four and somebody's underneath. somebody's written underneath. if if they climb, if my heart fail, if they climb, not all. well, where did you not at all. well, where did you get that? queen get poetry like that? on queen elizabeth. stagecoach elizabeth. the first stagecoach written news written of the diamond news channels on a wednesday morning fight. public order bill. fight. bbc public order bill. this defeat plans this is so piers. defeat plans to protesters option. to kerb the protesters option. this announced late last this was announced late last night public bill night so this public order bill that we've been talking about on and it has this and off and it has this very controversial clause in there about serious public disorder, serious damage to property,

seriously stripped into life seriously stripped into the life of the community if the protest might result in that, the police could restrict it . and what's could restrict it. and so what's happened? went to the house happened? emma went to the house of and overturned of lords and they've overturned quite key part of it. of lords and they've overturned quite key part of it . yeah, i quite a key part of it. yeah, i think the concern has been aired by a lot of free speech advocates, including myself, is that whilst obviously some of these protests like the just stop oil protests are a problem and a lot of these people are doing things like committing criminal damage and putting people's lives at risk. and so on. that the reason why the on. that was the reason why the government put forward some of these measures, but concern these measures, but the concern has been, and i agree with this and this is why i think this is this is good news, is that that could very easily be misused to prevent protests, to prevent people from being able to air their views in a democratic , their views in a democratic, free society, something that we all believe in. but another aspect of this i think is really important is the a lot of these things that are really causing

the serious disruption things like just a poll putting people's lives at risk on the roads . yeah. or vandals. these roads. yeah. or vandals. these are all things that can be dealt with within the law. there's this tendency to always want to create more legislation, and that always leads to trouble further down the line. so we don't this legislation. we don't need this legislation. we need law to be need the current law to be properly and properly enforced. and for the police taking cups of police to not be taking cups of tea, be testers sitting in tea, to be testers sitting in the the road and then the middle of the road and then leaving it to the public to take matters into their own hands so that can get to or that they can get to work or take their children. absolutely. what well, it's what do you think? well, it's interesting house of interesting that the house of lords there's lords and there's about a thousand and this thousand of them there and this actual was actually 254 to actual vote was actually 254 to 240. there's quite a tight vote, i think particularly i don't think particularly clear. government want clear. does the government want to throw red to the to throw some red meat to the tories? here's an odd thing. if you want have a demonstrate you want to have a demonstrate action london, don't action in london, you don't just turn in trafalgar turn up and march in trafalgar square. have to the square. you have to get the approval city and the approval of city hall and the police. we have this strange situation where if we the situation where if we have the poll demonstration, you poll tax demonstration, you know, the fox know, the end of the fox hunting, things hunting, demonstrating, things like that, you actually get

approval you approval for it. you get a licence for the demonstration. but about this is the but the thing about this is the just oil. have got just stop oil. people have got a lot time on their hands. they lot of time on their hands. they will with some will come up with some ridiculous round, ridiculous way round, but i think that something's to be think that something's got to be done when you've got people singing tomato soup, not at an andy which is andy warhol print, which is where should it where you should be singing it yet, of i mean, yet, but of angoff. i mean, there's something wrong there. i think somehow think we've got to somehow balance i hate to balance it. i mean, i hate to sound so sensible about this, but in some ways the right to protest, by all means. but let's not the be brought not allow the m25 to be brought to people stop going to a halt and people stop going to a halt and people stop going to it. and also about charlotte lynch, who was lynch, the reporter who was actually outed by the actually arrest outed by the police m25. arrested, police on the m25. arrested, know to actually know if you're going to actually stop press reporting these stop the press reporting these things, you're on things, then you're on a slippery slope to a dictatorship. one first dictatorship. one of the first things dictators is close things dictators do is close down broadcaster and down the state broadcaster and take you out and shoot you. yeah. i for me, emma yeah. and i think for me, emma as well, this story just shows it's one of those stories that while we do need house of while we do need a house of lords, do hold these bills lords, they do hold these bills to way that the to account in a way that the parliament doesn't absolute, and i this is very good case

i think this is a very good case against this idea of having an elected house of lords because you do need the checks and balances you can't just have balances. you can't just have a second house that would second house commons that would house of commons that would completely entire house of commons that would comp ofely entire house of commons that would comp of having entire house of commons that would compof having a entire house of commons that would compof having a second entire house of commons that would compof having a second house.e point of having a second house. so the house of lords have done brilliantly on this and i think that there will be a lot of free speech advocates who are celebrating today. and i as as as a very often do i agree with stephen and i think that resign i think i really i do think that a lot of this stuff like the use of protest to justify criminality to justify vandalism as we saw with the edward colston statue being pulled down or throwing things that , you or throwing things that, you know, tens of super paintings and so on, that's something that doesn't require this legislation. you know, this is we need to be very, very careful . and the sorts of legislation that's being proposed right now, including the online safety bill. yeah, that those with good intentions and not accidentally paving the road to hell yeah. by

introduce doing things that could have serious anti—democratic and anti free speech implications. absolutely right. brilliantly summed up, guys. okay now moving on off the break, a new tory party chairman for departments for new governmental departments and bullying and allegations of bullying still looming over one prominent figure case of tea party, figure in the case of tea party, the one man who can make sense of it all joins me in the studio after your morning's news. we you on subject . beth thank you on a subject. beth thank you. it's 1031. you on a subject. beth thank you. it's1031. this is the latest on the gb newsroom, the president of ukraine has landed in the uk and it's his first visit to the country since the start of russia's invasion . start of russia's invasion. volodymyr zelenskyy will meet prime minister rishi sunak as well as making an address to parliament. king charles is also set to hold an audience with president zelenskyy . today it president zelenskyy. today it sounds the prime minister, mr. sunak, announces a stepping up of aid to the country, including plans to train ukrainian pilots

. mr. sunak says the president's visit is a testament to the unbreakable friendship between the two countries , governments the two countries, governments and organisations around the world offering support to turkey and syria after devastating earthquake . more than 9600 earthquake. more than 9600 people. three british nationals are still missing following the disaster . a 7.8 magnitude disaster. a 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit on monday morning with a second major quake. a few hours later. the government has pledged support to turkey's president , who's declared president, who's declared a state of emergency for three months in the ten worst affected cities . a 77 strong british cities. a 77 strong british search and rescue team are currently assisting the country . an independent school where a head teacher was found dead with her family will reportedly stay closed until after half term. it's while surrey police continue their investigation into a homicide. continue their investigation into a homicide . the bodies of into a homicide. the bodies of

emma pattison and her husband george and their daughter lettie were found in the grounds of epsom college on sunday. the force has said. mr. patterson had been in contact with police about his gun licence only days before the incident . royal mail before the incident. royal mail have revealed the fast and second class dumps that will feature portrait of king charles. the design draws inspiration from stamps that featured the late queen elizabeth role models director david gold described it as a defining part of the king's reign. the stamps go on sale from april tv online and dab radio. this is.

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now the ukrainian president, vladimir zelenskyy, is in the uk for the first time since the invasion. ukraine. our political correspondent tom harwood is with here in the. good with me here in the. good morning, tom lots to talk about today. so zelenskyy arriving. does anybody know that this was going to happen? it seems to have come a little bit out of the blue. it has been kept very well under wraps. in a similar vein to how the americans handled alinsky's handled this first alinsky's first visit of his first visit outside of his country since the russian full scale invasion of his country a year ago . this has clearly been year ago. this has clearly been a very well prepared operation . a very well prepared operation. kept very, very tightly with a small group of people. so the obvious security element to it . obvious security element to it. but also, there's a bit of a comparison that we can draw with regard to how the european union has been handling a potential visit by zelenskyy. this bubbled up into the press on monday. the european people's party federalist group within the parliament tweeted out, we're looking forward to welcoming zelenskyy to the parliament.

clearly it had not been handled well there, but they were expecting him to visit on thursday . did a thursday. that did create a little bit of speculation if he's travelling outside of ukraine mighty country. ukraine where mighty country. but there any firm but there wasn't any firm expectation that he would come the uk and it's significant that this is his second visit. uk a us first, uk second. eu clearly third on the list. what's he going to do while he's here? tom, do we know it's a busy itinerary. first of all, he's meeting the prime minister at downing street . then be downing street. then he'll be addressing houses of addressing both houses of parliament westminster hall . parliament in westminster hall. this is one of these big addresses that we've come to expect from foreign leaders. president obama did so. angela merkel did so. nelson mandela did so of these big figures throughout history. it's always a big state occasion. and of course, most recently westminster hall has been known about as the place where the queen in state as hundreds of thousands of people file past. it's a really significant part of parliament, the oldest part of parliament, the oldest part of parliament, the oldest part of parliament, a thousand years

old, that all but then zelenskyy will be meeting with the king at buckingham palace for an address a visit. and after that he'll be going to see some of the ukrainian troops that are being trained by the british military . british military has been training ukrainian troops since 2014. since that partial invasion of ukraine by russia and the annexation of crimea and that training by british troops is one of the reasons why the ukrainians have been able to so successfully repel a larger and better equipped russian army in recent . it's a fascinating recent. it's a fascinating position. and also we're expecting rishi sunak to announce it's going to the uk . announce it's going to the uk. he's going to expand our training of ukrainian troops, not just those on the ground, but also at sea and in air as well. that's the expansion that we're expecting . and he has we're expecting. and he has a bit of a selling job. i think, to do zelenskyy in terms of generating more money from from the uk to support the war i

think is the public appetite perhaps for more taxpayers money to go out there, possibly wanes a little bit? well, this is the worry that boris johnson had been talking about. of course, the former prime minister has coined the term, you ukraine fatigue and the message that bofis fatigue and the message that boris johnson sort of outside of the structures of government have been taking to the us in recent weeks was that actually the way to save taxpayers cash, the way to save taxpayers cash, the way to seal this is to get this done and wrapped up as fast as possible if the ukraine war can last for a short a time as possible, we can return to some sort of normality, perhaps energy prices could come down. we could all save money in the long run . and i think that long run. and i think that that's a similar message that we'll be hearing from zelenskyy as that to get ukraine as well, that to get ukraine done, to coin a phrase, to get this war over sooner rather than later, might actually be a way of saving money rather than spending a bit now. but that continuing on for many, many years while risking an

escalation that nobody would would want. and right sunak's rishi's rishi ruffle, you have to have a reshuffle . so what's to have a reshuffle. so what's the fallout being since yesterday? no major of massive headune yesterday? no major of massive headline changes would a greg hunt is a big appointment. greg handsis hunt is a big appointment. greg hands is a big appointment. filling a gap left of course by the firing of nadhim zahawi. but crucially , there wasn't any crucially, there wasn't any other person who left the cabinet table yesterday. we saw a new face in lucy fraser becoming the new dcms secretary. that cabinet table has grown even larger . more people sitting even larger. more people sitting around it than we have seen in a long time. and to some extent that can point to some weakness of the prime minister's position. he wasn't able to fire anyone extra. in fact, he's just welcoming more people in that might point to a bit of lack of political capital there . but the political capital there. but the important thing i think here isn't the faces around the cabinet table. it's the departments at which they are in command and that have seen a

significant restructure chairing firstly a dedicated energy department for the first time in a long time in this country, going back to two thousand and seven was the last time really we had a dedicated energy department and that is talking about getting these big nuclear projects underway. the new wind and solar as well. and driving towards net zero of energy security. and net zero is the name of the department. isn't is in whitehall speak is how it will be known. it's i took what i heard the energy security and net zero there was something why does that jar a little is that received any sort of criticism. it reminded me a bit of when pubuc it reminded me a bit of when public health england became the uk health and security agency dunng uk health and security agency during pandemic. it just uk health and security agency duri|of pandemic. it just uk health and security agency duri|of happened mic. it just uk health and security agency duri|of happened and it just uk health and security agency duri|of happened and it just uk health and security agency duri|of happened and it felt sort of happened and it felt a little bit, i don't know, like like the one telling us everything. why was our suddenly a part of the security agency? and think this maybe is there and i think this maybe is there a conflict? it well, it tells us that our energy security is green all the way up to 2030. i

well there has been some political criticism of this. the reform party put out a video yesterday saying that it's a contradiction to say that net zero and energy security could go together. that is a contradiction. however the former levelling up secretary, simon clarke hit back at that suggestion saying that actually the way to get to energy security is to deliver net zero, because we've seen how volatile the price of natural gas is, for example, whereas if we had a greater nuclear capacity or a greater nuclear capacity or a greater wind and solar capacity , we would be able to ride through some of these international market crises in a better way. i suppose whatever angle you come at it, more domestic supply , no matter how domestic supply, no matter how that energy is generated , will that energy is generated, will be the name of the game. and maybe they can do something. it was in one department about green energy linked green energy being linked to fossil prices, which fossil fuel energy prices, which seems insane to me. but anyway , seems insane to me. but anyway, of course it's rishi sunak. there's going to be a lot of tech in there. the ultimate

technocrat, and he's brought in this department, any this new department, has any foot technology , foot innovation technology, whatever. it doesn't have digital in the title . it doesn't digital in the title. it doesn't it has science in title . and it has science in the title. and we this, it's six as it's we know this, it's six as it's known . and no, no, no rest in known. and no, no, no rest in the title quite yet. but this is this actually reminds me a lot of a of a department that used to exist under gordon brown , to exist under gordon brown, which science and which had a science and universities and all that sort of stuff cobbled in together. and we're seeing that as a specific strain from rishi sunak today, someone who is often spoken about as very technocratic as a leader, someone who does care about sort of science, innovation and technology. very important to get that city the right way round. some people were suggesting it could be science, technology and innovation , sdi technology and innovation, sdi yesterday, would not have yesterday, which would not have been a good name for a department, really, really crucial these one who crucial in these one who shuffles get how are shuffles to get how these are known quite clearly but what we but but yes this is rishi but but yes this is what rishi sunak's mission as prime minister doing delivering minister is doing delivering growth through these sort of technical means. he spoke about

this new year's speech. this in his new year's speech. and think we're going to be and i think we're going to be seeing a more from de set seeing a lot more from de set about how growth going to about how growth is going to grow what the chancellor grow through what the chancellor and describe and the prime minister describe as a new silicon valley. it also just you know, we've got to move on to marketwatch will you on to marketwatch we will you but also there was very but there's also there was very little art of little met for the art of reshuffling tells you about reshuffling it tells you about his again it. his priorities again doesn't it. yeah. wings dcms have yeah. the wings of dcms have been the big bits of been clipped. the big bits of dcms , the digital bits of moved dcms, the digital bits of moved with donelan, who is with michelle donelan, who is now charge it, and dcms now in charge of it, and dcms has a new face around the cabinet table. but it's a rather smaller department than it was before. okay, thanks tom. now what kind of condition is your street in? well, one road in birmingham might just be the worst in britain when it comes to fly—tipping burnt out cars and potholes. crawford street and potholes. crawford street and the slightly area of the city has it all. we sent our west reporter, jack carson, to take a look. but you might be mistaken for thinking this road is the site of a new blockbuster apocalypse film. but this is

crawford street in birmingham plagued by cars left stripped in the streets, potholes ? the streets, potholes? fly—tipping. this might be the most neglected street in the country. it's only nought point two miles in length. but drivers this cut through have to battle with the conditions. gerry moynihan , a community activist moynihan, a community activist and has been documenting the condition of the area before reporting his findings to the council. now since 2008, i've beenin council. now since 2008, i've been in contact with the council about trying to get the fly—tipping removed . the fly—tipping removed. the abandoned cars . the cars are abandoned cars. the cars are burnt out . this is a place where burnt out. this is a place where people continuously come to dump their rubbish as a local businesses confirm there are frequent fires here. now when the fly—tipping goes up in flames, the local fire service has to come out. that's a minimum of has to come out. that's a minimum 0 f £500 per time. it's minimum of £500 per time. it's not just the cost of clearing it, it's the cost of not clearing the fly—tipping because some other service such , as the

some other service such, as the fire service has to come out and, it's a cost to them. the amount of fly—tipping is an issue for businesses based on the road to do here. hussain works a salvage yard . they've works a salvage yard. they've been flytipping on this road. it's been of seven years. ten years. i've been here for 15 years. i've been here for 15 years. but he's been going for a long time . and birmingham city long time. and birmingham city council are doing nothing at all to help us out . we pay our rates to help us out. we pay our rates on time . but the thing with on time. but the thing with state of this road you're talking about every week we did not coming back to us at all last year a man who dumped business waste on the street was ordered to pay more than 1400 pounds off for successful court prosecution by birmingham city council . but prosecution by birmingham city council. but gerry moynihan stresses this problem engulfs the inner city. i think unfortunately this is inner city area, it's an area of deprivation and i don't think the council are inclined to do anything. as you've seen with the short distance from the just short distance from here, the local youth playground area , it's fly—tipped. it's been

area, it's fly—tipped. it's been blocked off. i think the air is just generally being neglected in response to the issues on crawford street, a birmingham city council spokesperson said, we are working hard to improve the condition of the city's roads and carry out regular inspections. we aim to clear fly—tipping within two working days, but white goods can take up to 14 if we have evidence , we up to 14 if we have evidence, we will prosecute . for now, this will prosecute. for now, this road remains a hotspot for waste and the campaign for due and proper clearance continues. jack carson gb news birmingham . thank carson gb news birmingham. thank you, jack . send me some pictures you, jack. send me some pictures of your street. won't you? if they compare to that, it's extraordinary , isn't it? now, extraordinary, isn't it? now, let me introduce you to my panel again. morning. i am delighted they haven't left building. they haven't left the building. emma at the emma webb, uk director at the thomason society and former labour stephen pound write labour mp stephen pound write this is a belter of a story , this is a belter of a story, right? should you know when you go to church and they say off either him hate i going to hell

i often i go to church and what what we say the god the father the holy son the father the father, the son of the father, the son of the holy spirit. yes, i'll a father who will take our father who was in heaven. so thatis father who was in heaven. so that is a question proposed , that is a question proposed, that is a question proposed, that perhaps in order to make the church, the christian church, more modern, we should have gender neutral language when it comes to all these men depicts it by the bible. emma webb i've had enough of this. i've just honestly, i've had it up to here with the church of england and their nonsense is only a couple of days ago they were suggesting human composting instead cremation so that instead of cremation so that they can reach their net zero targets. they basically turned into exceptionally woke into an exceptionally woke corporate. they all woke up and woke on so many things . and this woke on so many things. and this is ultimately disrespectful and it's not surprising because the church leadership is being repeatedly disrespectful to its own traditions, to its liturgy ,

own traditions, to its liturgy, to the scriptures, and to, you know, all the fundamental role, theological tenets and sacraments of the christian church and christian tradition. but on this , what they're but on this, what they're suggesting is that the liturgical commission should take steps to include to create more inclusive language within the liturgy. and so we would end up with this absurd situation where the lord's prayer, which was given to the church by christ in, you know, when christians in church pray this prayer , it's the words that our prayer, it's the words that our lord has told us to speak like. and the language , the bible in and the language, the bible in its original is, of course, gendered and, and so now we would be in this absurd situation where it's rather than saying our, our father who art in heaven , have to say our non in heaven, have to say our non gendered parent or and i know they've said what they would replace it with specifically

have they. but let me play devil's advocate here rather appropriately . it entirely appropriately. it entirely inappropriate, actually. well, you have probably asked me what of things that i think i one of the many reasons i say that i would could never feel like i was raised in sort of church of england upbringing, church music. but one of the reasons why i couldn't i think, identify with a church is because women don't do terribly well the don't do terribly well in the bible like you could, you know, a lot more than the bible than i do. but women tend to be, you know, the virgin the whole know, the virgin or the whole right the bible. there is right in the bible. there is a very clear stereotyping of women, perhaps one might say, stephen order stephen pound the bible in order to become have fewer to not become have fewer christian people in this country does need to move with the times to be more gender inclusive as i'm saying it, i'm not believing it myself. i in many ways i'm trying i'm sorry that the blessed virgin mary is one of the most important people in the bible and most important people in the history of the world. and we naomi. have ruth, we we have naomi. we have ruth, we

have magdalene. we have have mary magdalene. we have mary of magdala. plenty mary of magdala. there's plenty of in there. so but of other people in there. so but look, i think problem with look, i think the problem with this mean, don't know this is i mean, i don't know what going to say what the pope's going to say because papa, you because it'll papa, you know, what on would the pope what on earth would the pope then i think is such then be? i think this is such nonsense. but is one nonsense. but there is one little smidgen of sanity in here. of language we here. some of the language we use, we used to use the word men to describe men and women used to describe men and women used to for example the creed to say for example in the creed in catholic church, say in the catholic church, we say for and for our for us men and for our salvation. quite often we now say us people and for our say for us people and for our salvation. think that's salvation. i think that's perfectly acceptable. but perfectly acceptable. yeah. but to into again, to tie yourself into again, i think for the human think not. and as for the human compost, i have a outside compost, i have a sign outside my allotment that says trespassers will composted ruminants. well, i mean, look, this about it's a story about this is about it's a story about language, of course, is and there is an argument i've said it show that it before on the show that language to change and language has to change and evolve our reality. evolve to reflect our reality. and are put off and if emma, people are put off by christian church and the by the christian church and the bible because it kind of sowed the of hatred, okay, maybe the seeds of hatred, okay, maybe we should be making it a little much. i think that one of the things that is putting people off church is the fact that

off the church is the fact that they can't stick to their own principles. they don't seem to really believe in anything. and that people that that that turns people away. belief that away. they have this belief that they make themselves more secular bums secular that will get more bums on bums on pews, and to on seats or bums on pews, and to answer to your point about women in i think stephen in the bible, i think stephen nailed it. that women pay a very important role in the bible. the virgin mary is the most important woman in history as far as the bible said and the way that it portrays the course of mary magdalene actually gives her an incredibly elevated status. so in the context of its time, it's revolutionary in that respect. so you know, i think that the way that women are portrayed in the bible, it doesn't in any way entrench patriarchy or anything like that. don't think there's that. i don't think that there's anything toxic about anything inherently toxic about traditional gender roles, and i think that this is this is a postmodernist butchering of language . and you said that language. and you said that language. and you said that language has to adapt to change with the times. but language shouldn't adapt to see, to

reflect the truth or reality . reflect the truth or reality. and that's what we're seeing right now. we're seeing that particularly in the gender debate. are debate. well the church are going a major project going to launch a major project on language this on gendered language this spring. so this won't be the last you've heard about it. let me know what you think. gb views. that's gbnews.uk views. that's at gbnews.uk right. now talking about right. we are now talking about okay, this was the sentencing yesterday of the met police rapist david carrick . yesterday of the met police rapist david carrick. he was given 36 life sentences. so the crown court yesterday, he was told he would not be eligible for parole for 30 years, at which point he'd be 78. is it a strict enough sentence, stephen, because it's being called into review . it'll never be strict review. it'll never be strict enough because it'll never, ever bnng enough because it'll never, ever bring peace and closure to his victims because his crimes were so utterly reprehensible. watching mrs. chambers is justice. she rob read out the indictment yesterday. you just suddenly realise this person is beyond depraved . but if it's any beyond depraved. but if it's any consolation, i mean, i know what will happen to him in prison. he'll be in what's called the

vpu, the vulnerable personal unit, which is where you put and police officers. he will have a very, very rough time. there'll be glass in the porridge be ground glass in the porridge and much mistaken. and this i'm very much mistaken. but fact remains is i think but the fact remains is i think we should move the spotlight away from carrick and onto his victims, because how on earth are going to actually are they going to actually rebuild their life because he wasn't just rapist, he was a coercive, controlling, brutal raping . and the things he did to raping. and the things he did to those women, it's almost those women, it's just almost beyond belief . a man who almost beyond belief. a man who almost makes me think maybe there's a case for capital punishment. i don't believe it's because i think ultimately, as a christian, anybody is capable of redemption. but in his case, it's going to be hard job. it's going to be a hard job. yeah, well , what you think, yeah, well, what do you think, emma? have had a heart emma? should he have had a heart , stricter sentence? stephen , a stricter sentence? stephen said he's going to have a miserable in prison. yeah miserable time in prison. yeah i think. i mean, the point has been made that this has already undermined trust in the police, that the lower sentence could undermine trust in the justice system as well. and i don't think the political consider should come into play when it

comes to people's sentences, because i think actually because i think that's actually quite the course of quite dangerous to the course of justice. but obviously this guy should have received a higher sentence , and i think he will, sentence, and i think he will, because this is this is obviously going to be referred to the court of appeal . and to the court of appeal. and according to the report on this, the court in the court of appeals, 70% of sentences get increased. so it's likely increased. so it's very likely that it will. you can just imagine his victims imagine being one of his victims and knowing that at some point in the too not distant future that man is going to be out that this man is going to be out free roaming amongst the public , that, you know, that compounds the trauma of the whole situation . so i think the situation. so i think the government back in 2020, they they dropped this practise of as letting violent criminals out of jail halfway through the sentence which was an absurd thing to begin with in my opinion. so i think that we do go to light on sentence saying generally , of course, he should generally, of course, he should he should receive a higher a longer sentence than this. it's just not fair on the victims

that they have to look forward to him being let out. yeah, right. we've come to the end of our first hour. that went quickly, didn't it? now conservative mp michael fabncant conservative mp michael fabricant be in the studio fabricant will be in the studio just break with his just after this break with his take on the strength of his own party after sunak's rishi party after rishi sunak's rishi file thoughts on file and his thoughts on president zelenskyy visits, which we speak. which is happening as we speak. but all, it's a weather but first of all, it's a weather . it's aidan magee . hello again, it's aidan magee .even . hello again, it's aidan magee . even here from the met office folk clearing across central and southern parts of the uk during the rest of the morning and then drive many the drive for many into the afternoon. it will turn afternoon. but it will turn increasingly wet windy increasingly wet and windy in the north. now you can see the contrast . it's across the uk, contrast. it's across the uk, high pressure close to the south, light winds and clear skies allowing frost and fog to form by dawn morning. but form by dawn this morning. but the front moving into the weather front moving into northwest bringing northwest scotland bringing strengthening winds, gales 65 to 75 mile per hour gusts for the able to have forties and some heavy rain for a time during the afternoon as that's pushing south it will push cloud into northern england west wales as well as cornwall. but to the

southeast actually plenty of sunshine once the fog lifts and temperatures fairly widely . the temperatures fairly widely. the uk reaching 8 to 10 celsius. now the front across scotland pushes south through the evening and it will fall as snow over the high ground as it clears, then wintry showers follow for northern scotland. parts northern ireland as well. snow and hail in places mainly over the hills. the front weakens though as it pushes south. it will prevent a frost in the far south with some drizzle to begin things on thursday . otherwise, for north thursday. otherwise, for north wales, northern england, southern frosty southern scotland. frosty conditions and bright skies. but for northern ireland as well as for northern ireland as well as for much of the rest of scotland, we've got those showers continuing to pile in a gusty wind as well for the far north, the rain and the drizzle and the cloud clears quite quickly during the morning in the south and then sunny skies once again, 8 to 10 celsius across much of england and wales, feeling colder, though, for scotland and northern ireland with those blustery showers moving through. the

showers moving through. the showers do tend to ease into thursday evening . we'll see a thursday evening. we'll see a lot of cloud arrive into the north, in the west from the atlantic and that's the start of a mild episode of weather heading into the weekend mostly cloudy skies this weekend. but some brightness in the south and temperatures rising for most .

very good morning . welcome back very good morning. welcome back to bev turner. today on gb news before midday, we're going to be looking at ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy surprise visit to the uk this morning. he's already met the prime minister. scheduled to minister. he's scheduled to visit charles later on. visit king charles later on.

he'll give a speech to he'll also give a speech to parliament this afternoon. and also the church england also as the church of england debates, that's debates, the idea that's been dividing community dividing the religious community for asking , should for years, i'm asking, should same marriages be allowed to same sex marriages be allowed to go ahead in our christian church 7 go ahead in our christian church ? disgraced rapist met ? also, the disgraced rapist met police officer david carrick, sentencing is being reviewed after the attorney general received requests for received multiple requests for being . do you agree? being too lenient. do you agree? we're go into all the we're going to go into all the details that. first of details of that. but first of all, here's a look at the latest news with tatiana sanchez . thank news with tatiana sanchez. thank you. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the president of ukraine has landed in the uk in his first visit to the country since the start of russia's invasion. volodymyr zelenskyy, who's been greeted by the prime minister will make an address to parliament as part of his surprise visit. king charles is also set to hold an audience with phil and ski at buckingham palace this afternoon . it sounds palace this afternoon. it sounds rishi sunak has announced a stepping up of aid to ukraine,

including plans to train ukrainian pilots. he says the president's visit is a testament to the unbreakable friendship between the two countries, governments and organised nafions governments and organised nations around the world, offering support to turkey and syria after a devastating earthquake killed more than 11,000 people. three british nationals are still following the disaster. a 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit on monday morning with a second major quake. a few hours later, the government has pledged support to turkey's president, who's declared a state of emergency for three months in the ten worst affected cities. a 77 strong british search and rescue team are assisting in the country . the assisting in the country. the new conservative chairman has told gb news upcoming local elections would be a challenge for his party following a mini cabinet reshuffle yesterday . cabinet reshuffle yesterday. greg hands has replaced nadhim zahawi, who was sacked over his

tax affairs . the government has tax affairs. the government has also created four new departments with an aim to boost the economy and address the energy crisis . grant shapps will energy crisis. grant shapps will head up a new energy security, a net zero department which will focus on securing the uk's long term energy supply. mr. hans said the changes would help to build a platform for next year's general election. rishi has created a new to couple new government department to bring a sharper focus to the government on things like energy, security and science and technology and making saw his five priorities are seen through. i'm really looking forward to doing this job. you know, it's a fantastic opportunity to be chairman of the conservative party. our main focus is going to be on making sure we've got everything in place to win year's general election , to take on it, on election, to take on it, on reform, labor party the supreme court has rejected a challenge over the post—brexit northern

ireland protocol trading arrangements . a dispute was arrangements. a dispute was brought by unionists and brexiteers to the uk's highest court in the land , questioning court in the land, questioning the legality of the arrangement. they argued the protocol breaches the acts of union and the northern ireland art. but the northern ireland art. but the supreme court unanimously rejected their appeal . an rejected their appeal. an independent school where a head teacher was found dead , her teacher was found dead, her family will reportedly stay closed until after half term as while sorry , police continue while sorry, police continue their investigation into a homicide . the bodies of emma homicide. the bodies of emma pattison , her husband george and pattison, her husband george and their daughter lettie were found in the grounds of epsom college on sunday. the force has said mr. patterson had been in contact with police about his gun licence. only days before the incident . firefighters are the incident. firefighters are set to announce a fresh strike action tomorrow if they fail to come to an agreement with bosses on pay. today members of the fire brigades union will be

holding last minute talks with employers after overwhelmingly rejecting a 5% pay offer in november. last year. the union says it hopes to resolve the dispute without a strike and is giving employers the chance to come forward with a better salary offer . the church of salary offer. the church of england could move away from thousand the year old tradition of referring to god as he in future. it's after priests within the church asked to use gender neutral terms instead. religious leaders say a new project on gendered language will begin this spring with any changes to be approved by the churches decision making body synod . and royal mail have synod. and royal mail have revealed the first and second class dumps that will feature portray of king charles. the design draws inspiration from stamps that featured the late queen elizabeth. roll emails director david gold has described it as defining part of the king's reign. the stamps go on sale from april . this is a gb

on sale from april. this is a gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to . best good morning. welcome back to best tennis day on gb news. thanks for watching. here's what's coming up for the rest of this hour. there's been an ambitious shake—up of rishi sunak's cabinet as the prime minister uk trade and minister merges uk trade and business creates departments business and creates departments for and net zero. but for energy and net zero. but will this be enough to save the conservatives? we'll find out in just moments. and the disgraced police officer, david carrick's, 30 year sentence will be reviewed by the attorney general after multiple requests for review was being sent to lenient sentence. i'm going to be speaking to a former detective chief's superintendent, the met police, later in the hour and a political commentator , emma political commentator, emma webb, former labour mp webb, and former labour mp stephen pound will be back in

the join me for the studio to join me for another round of about another round of talks about some biggest stories of some of the biggest stories of the of course you are the day. and of course you are my third panellist. do get in touch. me touch. email me gbviews@gbnews.uk tweet at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb your say . gb news to have your say. so jetted into to the uk today. he's already met the prime minister, rishi sunak and he later on today is going to be meeting king charles. he's going to give a speech to parliament this afternoon as ukraine prepares to mark one year since russia's invasion. oh, yeah, that's been one year. joining me for more is gb news is political editor mccaffrey. good editor at darren mccaffrey. good morning, daryn. yeah, good morning, daryn daryn. yeah, good morning, daryn daryn. yeah, good morning . that, as you say, morning. that, as you say, president zelenskyy touched down here in the uk, within the last hour or so. he met or was met on the tarmac by the prime minister, rishi sunak , in minister, rishi sunak, in a literal embrace, starting tweeting out a picture in the last couple of minutes of that meeting . and my word, that meeting. and my word, that picture speaks a thousand words

in terms of the symbol. i think that the uk government trying to drive home today, this is only the second visit that volodymyr zelenskyy has made outside of ukraine since the invasion as say essentially a year ago . he say essentially a year ago. he met with president biden in the white house a couple of months ago . it is notable that this is ago. it is notable that this is the first european country. the president will have visited and it is going to be a jam packed day. he's expected to arrive here in downing street . we think here in downing street. we think probably the next 30 minutes or so. he could have a meeting probably quicker than that, i reckon they're heading from reckon they're heading back from the we speak and then the airport as we speak and then have a brief inside have a brief meeting inside number then going to number 10. he's then going to travel parliament with the prime minister . we're expecting minister. we're expecting president zelenskyy address mps little later on, then a visit to buckingham palace to see his majesty the king and then on he's going to visit ukraine and troops and british troops as they're being trained elsewhere in the country . so they're being trained elsewhere in the country. so a they're being trained elsewhere

in the country . so a really, in the country. so a really, really quite a busy day and a day goes beyond symbolism in many regards. and the reason say thatis many regards. and the reason say that is because alongside this visit, downing street have announced something quite significant in terms of the commitment to ukraine militarily . so we know that they're going to now include the training of ukrainian troops in fighter jets. now, this is obviously and has been quite controversial to date. no european country has been prepared to lend ukraine fighter jets, even though there's an argument from kyiv that that is vital in order to provide greater security to have air cover. now the uk is not going too far is saying that they're going to avoid jets, but what they have said is they're prepared to stop training prepared to stop the training exercises on standard . so exercises on nato's standard. so it's looking down it's kind of looking down potentially into the future we have jets would provide it the pilots already have the training that's quite a significant move. and addition that, that's quite a significant move. and addition that , the uk and in addition to that, the uk is going to provide ukraine with a longer range weapons a longer range with weapons as well in a bid to downing street

to disrupt russia's ability to target civilian and critical national infrastructure. again, there's been concern longer range missiles and the possibility of escalating this war. but that incident is not just coming here for a photo opportunity. he's clearly quite big commitment. i would say, from the uk . big commitment. i would say, from the uk. but this trip big commitment. i would say, from the uk . but this trip is from the uk. but this trip is also about and it will be quite also about and it will be quite a moment seeing president zelenskyy the street, as i say, in the next couple of minutes. and also just an added note to that about prime minister's question time is still going to take place 12 noon today. take place at 12 noon today. i suspect going disrupt suspect he's going to disrupt the kind of atmosphere the entire kind of atmosphere that chamber in the sense i'm not entirely sure keir starmer is going ask lot the is going to ask about lot of the party political staff at the moment. be real moment. that will be a real essence. i think that all mp , essence. i think that all mp, including the labour opposition , will want to show their solidarity with. ukraine okay , solidarity with. ukraine okay, you so much. darren darren mccaffrey there down at downing street joining me now to discuss this is conservative mp for lichfield michael fabricant . lichfield michael fabricant. good morning michael. lovely to

see you. i was a little bit surprised to hear that. we're going train ukrainian going to train ukrainian fighters fighter fighters to fly fighter jet fighters to fly fighter jet fighter to be fighter jets surely got to be a step towards us. it's a major step towards us. it's a major step forward and we're doing marines as well . so other marines as well. so in other words, we're saying and by words, what we're saying and by the way, notice i'm wearing my ukrainian be there ukrainian tie, i'll be there cheering on vladimir vladimir zelenskyy pronounce his name the softly . yes, it's a major change softly. yes, it's a major change because previously we were talking about only training the army . that's all countries doing army. that's all countries doing that. and once again, britain is leading the way because we were the first, as you know, to provide anti—tank weapons which stopped the russian from taking control of kyiv , the capital. we control of kyiv, the capital. we the first people to provide tanks, and now we're the first people to provide air training to. well, does that mean we're the first people to go and give a lot of taxpayer money to a war that people are getting quite of? well, you know what? people said that in 1938 when hitler marched into czechoslovakia and

the prime minister at the time said, well, so what? this is a little country of which we know little country of which we know little about , doesn't matter. little about, doesn't matter. one year later, we were at war. look, you cannot appease . and look, you cannot appease. and it's quite clear that putin is deranged and it's quite clear that putin, if he were to ukraine successfully and he has been stopped so far it would lead on to other things because he thinks that lithuania, latvia and estonia, which are nato countries , should also be a part countries, should also be a part of greater russia. i don't want to sit here as a defending putin, but i think we have to be very careful and i think the british public at the moment feel the way that zelenskyy has been was roundly been deified when he was roundly recognised one of the recognised as being one of the most corrupt governments in europe. there always europe. russia there had always been skirmishes on the border with russia for at least. we're getting on to nine years now and escalated and do we have serious questions to ask , though, about questions to ask, though, about the continuation of the funding of this has been very clear from the beginning that all he really

wanted was to that was ukraine to. go back into his very sentimentalised of the former soviet union. we haven't heard him say he wished he wished that he could extend ten strikes and the territorial ownership of other european countries. putin has said that. putin has said that i mean, at the moment he is belarus alone because government there is very programme led. but he has talked about the baltic states and he has talked about the restoration not of the soviet union because was the communist people's republic , but communist people's republic, but talking about having the same borders as . the soviet union? borders as. the soviet union? no, the man is and our small zelenskyy look , he is fighting zelenskyy look, he is fighting corruption now. he knows that if he's going everjoin the he's going ever join the european union, if he's ever going to join , he's going to be going to join, he's going to be a western democracy talking of corruption . right. let's talk corruption. right. let's talk about yes, let's talk about you probably feel at home quite. let's talk about issues closer home. michael, the reshuffle

yesterday . what are your take yesterday. what are your take outs from the changes ? well, if outs from the changes? well, if changes were made , i don't think changes were made, i don't think they were. but if the changes were made to try and attract more voters , then we're more voters, then we're whistling into the sky. it's not going to achieve that. people aren't interested in that. we've beenin aren't interested in that. we've been in government for 12 years when we have the general election, it'll probably be 13 or 14 years and people thinking, you know what, the government is boring, let's have change, let's go for another government led by an even more boring leader. keir starmer what the people want are delays, delivery. now we've had some good economic news today , some good economic news today, which is that britain is unlikely this year to go into a recession . remember germany and recession. remember germany and most eu countries are in recession . so that's not going recession. so that's not going to happen . people want to feel to happen. people want to feel good. to happen. people want to feel good . they want to feel that good. they want to feel that this country has a vision. now rishi sunak and jeremy hunt gave

a great but people aren't listening anymore because they're not interested speeches. well they're interested in is action that produces results so my own view is if this reshuffle not just a reshuffle it's actually changing government departments. yeah that's the most significant part. that's much more significant than the actual reshuffle. if actually achieves the that we want , which achieves the that we want, which means that we become independent of other countries for our energy supplies. and so and so forth. and more importantly that people have hope and have money in their pocket . if that happens in their pocket. if that happens , then that's a good thing. and you know, i think that's what people want to see. so it's a small step in that direction . small step in that direction. we've talked a lot on, this channel and on this show about the difference between liz truss, his economic plan as it was, and rishi sunak's. there is repeatedly we hear the show, we see all of us emailing in to say

that they want something which is deregulate , is pro—growth, deregulate, auction. the liz truss image . auction. the liz truss image. liz truss vision of a true conservative competitive led free market economy. they don't feel that rishi is provide. jeremy hunt is providing that. well i see that and i get that. and what i've said, jeremy hunt, is look , one of the problems is look, one of the problems i think in all parliaments and particularly in this parliament is that you get so wings i never get happy medium. what i mean by is that liz truss on pendulum was way over here and i fear that hunt's going to go way over now. there is actually a happy medium . the growth agenda is in medium. the growth agenda is in and in fact rishi talked about. but again, it's no good talking it he's got to deliver and if we're going to get growth , it we're going to get growth, it does mean reducing taxes . it does mean reducing taxes. it might not mean going as far as liz truss went , but it might not mean going as far as liz truss went, but it means going in that direction and a steady as you go policy and i

don't know what's in the budget . i'm not even sure that jeremy knows yet because it all depends on what obe and other forecasts are . but if we just say we're are. but if we just say we're going be steady as you go , we're going be steady as you go, we're going be steady as you go, we're going to be steadily heading a labour government. and you know what we even deserve it if we're not adventurous. do you think people in the conservative party feel that you've got one foot out of the door? there's a sense, i have to say my own personal opinion, that rishi sunak his heart sunak often looks his heart isn't it. i he's very isn't quite in it. i he's very good at trotting out what he's told to say, and he's an excellent kind of candidate for giving a speech and looking like he's they're he's the lines. but they're never a pace to be much heart and it michael. that's what people feel that maybe his plans for his his future after politics more important than politics is more important than how feels for the british how he feels for the british pubuc how he feels for the british public think public right now. well think rishi is a technocrat. rishi sunak is a technocrat. there's nothing wrong with being a you've to a technocrat, but you've got to have vision. you've have have vision. but you've to have humanity you've have humanity and you've got to have humanity. that's right. you know, i, i, i that one friend of

mine who is very, very senior in the conservative party, it very difficult to make contact with rishi sudhakar. difficult to make contact with rishi sudhakar . remember boris rishi sudhakar. remember boris johnson when he was prime, telling me michael, he johnson when he was prime, telling me michael , he shouldn't telling me michael, he shouldn't feel so bad about it? i next door to him at number 10 and he won't return my phone calls ehhen won't return my phone calls either. you know, rishi notes , either. you know, rishi notes, if he feels remote to his politicians , his public, well, politicians, his public, well, to some politicians, and this is rishi has to recognise it's no good just being a technocrat. we've got ai now, we've got all these chat bots coming along. we don't need one. we need someone with vision . now, as i say, he's with vision. now, as i say, he's produced visionary ideas is in his speeches . but that's not his speeches. but that's not enough that vision has to be translated into action. and i that's what people want to see. now that's one of the reasons why people supported boris, because you could say boris is the complete opposite a technocrat, but by boris has vision and. that's what that's what people found attractive. i can't have you here without

asking you very briefly for two stories. when we were discussing just about the fact that mps who lose their seats should get £100, lose their seats should get £100 , £100, hundred thousand £100, £100, hundred thousand pound a medal for pound pay off and a medal for their . you're that their services. you're on that committee, am. what's committee, michael. i am. what's the to that? what's the back story to that? what's the back story to that? what's the the the truth? the back to the truth. the back story is that the truth? the back to the truth don't back story is that the truth? the back to the truth don't actuallyry is that the truth? the back to the truth don't actually get that the truth? the back to the truth don't actually get what mps don't actually get what other people get working in the pubuc other people get working in the public sector, in the private sector proper sector, which is proper redundancy payments . now, if an redundancy payments. now, if an mp leaves, he's going to get a hug or she is not going to get £100,000. depends how long they've all they've worked there and all the rest of it. but at the moment they only get a few thousand quid let's be honest, some quid and let's be honest, some mps seats because mps lose their seats not because they were bad mps but because they were bad mps but because the nationals swing sweeps them away , all the rest of it. so you away, all the rest of it. so you take a risk becoming an mp and you make a you make an informed choice if you want to take that career as i did when i sold my business. but it's not fair. i that mps who can be swept away like that get far less than people who work in the civil

service or indeed for companies .john service or indeed for companies . john lewis you know they're entitled to fairness . and the entitled to fairness. and the argument goes actually , you know argument goes actually, you know what? employees are treated particularly badly at the moment. okay and on the whole, i think, by the way, it's going to get but sympathy with your viewers. no going to get that much sympathy. really inbox much sympathy. really my inbox is it isn't getting is telling me it isn't getting much other news much sympathy on the other news story of the day that want your take on the senate who are take on is the senate who are the church you are the christian church you are debating whether debating at the moment whether we same sex marriage we should have same sex marriage blessed church. are blessed by the church. what are your thoughts on? well, i live in cathedral city, litchfield, in a cathedral city, litchfield, with cathedral, with the beautiful cathedral, the just retired. so the dean has just retired. so think can say that the dean think i can say that the dean has me privately , but has said to me privately, but not so privately now, because i'm going you that he i'm going to tell you that he would like a flesh perform gay marriage . we are equal wedding , marriage. we are equal wedding, equal marriage, whatever you want to call it. and it's only the senate holding him back and i've met so other vicars who feel that way too , because they feel that way too, because they say love is love . if we are

say love is love. if we are created , the image of god, i'm created, the image of god, i'm getting quite theological now. if we're created in the image of god and god makes some, it's not a choice one makes. so i'm going to be gay , i'm going to be to be gay, i'm going to be straight. it doesn't work like, oh, by which i am bisexual. yeah it's not all about that. it's, you know, you that way from the moment are born and your father was a very famous rabbi scholar and you've been brought up in the jewish . what is the the jewish. what is the situation? i'm not religious. i mean, i'm not a if i mean, i'm been to synagogue in about 20 years that i go to evensong litchfield cathedral, where i went to a but what is the situation in the jewish faith? well, as i understand sex well, there are various sects like in there are various sects like in the anglican church. well, yes , the anglican church. well, yes, different sects in christianity . but as i understand it and i'll probably now get told off by various people who say this isn't the case, but as i understand, if you're in the liberal synagogue or reformed synagogue , which are two of the

synagogue, which are two of the main sects in the uk , you can main sects in the uk, you can have a gay marriage . i think have a gay marriage. i think it's more difficult if you're. yeah, not sure, but you know, every synagogue it's a, it's a, it's organised a bit like methodism in the sense there isn't some great council above which is going to tell a synagogue off and i think if an orthodox rabbi chose to do then he could do it depends how they interpret. so you think the christian church needs to drag itself into the 21st century? the problem is that the anglican communion is not just the uk , communion is not just the uk, us, canada , australia and new us, canada, australia and new zealand who i would call liberal thinking people, western democracy is they include africa malaysia where there are pressures because a strong muslim community there as well for whatever reason they're against it . and you know what against it. and you know what i would say to the archbishop of canterbury, the anglican anglican communion should be not

quantity. and if you want to be relevant in the 21st century. the anglican community may have to split if that means not just gay marriage, other issues too. and anglican church is being held with 18th century views simply because we can't take along a areas which are not western democracies and which are actually quite what's the word for it? very very. i'm going to let you finish this sentence. well very, very unfair word looking, shall we say. and not going to be the future of the church in this country. and there i am a nice jewish boy, not, that is to say, a practising at all, but telling what the anglican church should do. stand for by loads of horrible emails now on gbviews@gbnews.uk what i've just said. you know what, michael emma webb was talking about the fact that a lot are put off fact that a lot of are put off by going into politics because,

they're not allowed to express their opinion. i love the their opinion. and i love the fact you thank you fact that you do oh thank you for us right now. coming forjoining us right now. coming up, general's up, the attorney general's office review the office is going to review the sentence david carrick after sentence for david carrick after receiving complaints receiving numerous complaints of it too lenient. i'm going it being too lenient. i'm going to to former to be speaking to a former met police superintendent after this quick. so you .

in two. welcome back to gb news bev turner. we are here for about another 20 minutes or so. this is pmqs. now the prison sentence to rapist police officer david carrick is being reviewed by the attorney general after being inundated with multiple requests that it was too lenient. the disgraceful former police officer was jailed for at least 30 years yesterday after being handed a 36 life sentence for rape and sexual attacks. well, joining me now is the former detective chief superintendent

of the met police, kevin hurley. good morning, kevin . thank you good morning, kevin. thank you very much for joining good morning, kevin. thank you very much forjoining me good morning, kevin. thank you very much for joining me this morning . can i just have your morning. can i just have your reflections on this really shocking case? a former police officer ? well, yeah, the guys officer? well, yeah, the guys absolute monster been doing it for years. there are many people who use the internet to predate people of either sex on their proclivity . it's quite dreadful proclivity. it's quite dreadful . someone who works in the police service does that but people as they are they the tragedy of this case is that although there were various along the way the of domestic violence allegation or the odd harassment allegation because they were across different forces i'm sure the men hertfordshire and each one taken on their own got many many more limited investigation is the norm. sadly in these cases it

was never linked up. and that's really because the government have failed to invest in a completely networked and linked intelligence system for the country despite being asked by senior police chiefs to fund it. so the main problem with this one, two issues. one, the guy is a monstrous predator who exploited the internet. and the other one is we should not be surprise if things like this supped surprise if things like this slipped through the net, through lack of linked databases. jemmy saville is another classic example of that kind of failure . a guy who was offending all over country because but the systems weren't in place , it was systems weren't in place, it was never fixed. and this should have been fixed actually, after the yorkshire ripper , when this the yorkshire ripper, when this breakdown in links between police forces was first identified. right. and it's never been fixed and it still hasn't . so for example , surrey hasn't. so for example, surrey police's criminal intelligence system, which neighbours on the metropolitan police cannot talk

to each other , the crime to each other, the crime recording systems between surrey police and the met police still can't talk to each other bottom line sentence. well got a really massive sentence . six life massive sentence. six life sentences with a minimum recommendation of 30 years and eight months. now interesting enough, despite all the political hoo ha and everyone complaining, political hoo ha and everyone complaining , judges are complaining, judges are constrained by the sentencing council and what they can actually award and the end for a right sentence is life with a maximum recommended action of 19 years. so this judge has really gone out on a limb sentencing . gone out on a limb sentencing. he has done quite rightly because it's a shocking and dreadful case. and the public demand and quite rightly the survivors of this demand. i said a significant sentence . okay. a significant sentence. okay. all right . thank you very much, all right. thank you very much, kevin. kevin hurley, the former detective chief superintendent

at the met, summing up really well, i think now off the break, do we confuse toxic masculinity , aggression. i'm going be discussing that with my panel off the news with tatiana subjects. for thank you. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the president of ukraine is in the uk it's his first visit to the uk it's his first visit to the country . the start of the country. the start of russia's invasion . volodymyr russia's invasion. volodymyr zelenskyy has been greeted by prime minister rishi sunak as well . he's prime minister rishi sunak as well. he's going to be making an address in parliament. king charles is also said to hold an audience with president zelenskyy it says mr. sunak announces a stepping up of aid to the country , including plans to the country, including plans to the country, including plans to train ukrainian pilots. he says the president's visit is a testament the unbreakable friendship between the two countries . governments and

countries. governments and organised nations around the world, offering support to turkey. in syria after devastating earthquakes have killed more than 11,000 people. three british nationals are still following the disaster a 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit on monday morning, with the second major quake a few hours. the government has pledged to turkey's president, who has been visiting one of the affected areas . a state of emergency has areas. a state of emergency has been declared three months in the ten worst affected cities . the ten worst affected cities. the 77 strong british search and rescue team are currently assisting the country . an assisting the country. an independent school where a head was found dead with her family will reportedly stay closed until after half term . it's until after half term. it's while surrey police their investigation into a homicide. the bodies emma pattison her husband george and their daughter lettie were found the grounds of epsom college on the force , said mr pattison has been

force, said mr pattison has been in contact with police . we're in contact with police. we're going to take you live to president zelenskyy at . number president zelenskyy at. number 10. these are live pictures of rishi sunak and president zelenskyy entering number 10 to hold a talks today as the prime minister focuses on stepping up military aid in the war torn country. and we'll bring you more on that as we get it. there is going to be a audience with king charles today. he holds the audience with zelenskyy we'll bnng audience with zelenskyy we'll bring you that as we get it on tv online and the ap plus radio

it it is 1133. the suspect assailant gb news. we've just seen assailant ski go up the red carpet into ten downing street to have a walk, lunch, 11 £67 with rishi sunak . how with rishi sunak. how significant is that today ? well, significant is that today? well, it's a great distraction, really today, i have to say, you know, he's got a dominic raab and he's got a lead and it's an all these business thing going on about. i just find it extraordinary. i used to find it amazing in the middle of the last war churchill could fly to canada back. could fly to canada and back. i mean i've flown out of airport in in kyiv a few times but not in in kyiv a few times but not in a war zone. it seems amazing that we can fly and fly out that we can fly in and fly out of there in the war zone at the present but symbolically, present time. but symbolically, it mean, it is important. i mean, possibly zelensky's possibly and zelensky's here because he's fed up of bumping into johnson in kyiv into boris johnson in kyiv because spend because he does seem to spend a lot time there. it definitely lot of time there. it definitely looks a little emotive. i don't know whether agree with me that rishi enthusiastically rishi sunak enthusiastically greeting tarmac greeting zelenskyy on the tarmac , whether he's always got boris johnson in the periphery as and he look, i'm mates with him as

well. i'm more mates than you, boris. am i too cynical that. no, that's what i. if no, that's exactly what i. if you think about it, go look at them practically kissing. if you think the optics of it . think about the optics of it. you needs to show you know rishi needs to show that he is he's the big boss now and whether or not i'm assuming downing street knew that boris was going to go and have meeting with zelenskyy in ukraine, whether they did or they didn't, of course rishi is going to have to do something similar. and the only you can warm up only way that you can warm up that having, you know, that is by having, you know, having zelenskyy come to your home and actually be here , home and actually be here, british soil. so i think that rishi is obviously trying to send a particular message here. he's sending a message about the uk. its role in the world. he's sending a message about his relationship with zelenskyy and importantly i think showing the of the relationship within the conservative party within the government with zelenskyy so that it's clear that it's not just a good relationship that he has one person boris has with one person boris johnson , that this something johnson, that this is something that ongoing going and that is ongoing going and

against backdrop of what's against the backdrop of what's been going on with german tanks and so to show that we really and so on to show that we really are forefront of this do are at the forefront of this do people want us to be at the forefront of this. stephen i think by and large they do because the moment it has an because at the moment it has an impact too massively on us. at the it's perceived the moment it's perceived as there's existential there's an existential threat against country. there's an existential threat against country . and against a european country. and i people naturally this i think people naturally in this country tradition of, country we have a tradition of, you standing people you know, standing up for people who think that's who get invaded. i think that's something be proud something to be proud of. i think it's not like it just feels like everyone's just given up any sort of diplomatic resolution have resolution. should we have zelenskyy i won't sit zelenskyy saying, i won't sit down with come to down with with putin and come to any peace arrangement? any sort of peace arrangement? well, you try please. well, can you try please. because it's costing us about 5 billion quid, so. well, we've tried that. i mean, we couldn't have done that with galtieri over the falklands because there's certainly we there's no talk and certainly we couldn't with couldn't have done it with hitler want to go hitler in 1939. i do want to go too much back into the past, but i think comes a time when you realise you cannot negotiate with dictators. negotiate with dictators. you negotiate with dictators. you negotiate with i think with psychopaths. and i think putin you can putin is not someone you can negotiate mean you negotiate it again. i mean you know turkish president has

know what turkish president has other issues to deal with the moment, face it. but he moment, let's face it. but he did a pretty good job of brokering some sort of negotiation the start . this negotiation at the start. this trying at least a message trying to get at least a message across to the ukrainians, specifically what it was that russia wanted. emma, were you dissolute i came at idea dissolute and i came at the idea that any ambition, that nobody has any ambition, apparently this out apparently to sort this out without bombing other ? i without bombing each other? i think the problem is , think i think the problem is, obviously, been tiny obviously, there have been tiny , tiny steps the direction of , tiny steps in the direction of escalation. but every all the international community has been very careful to not escalate things and not to poke the russian bear, as it were, but i think the problem is that it's difficult for the international community and international leaders, i imagine, to tell zelenskyy, that he would have to compromise on any territory. ukraine because for him this and also in geopolitical terms conceding any amount of territory sends a message. it sends a message to russia. importantly, you have to see it in the broader context also sends a message to china. and so

we whatever happens whatever decision is taken , whether it is decision is taken, whether it is militarily or diplomatic, we have to ensure that we're sending the right message to countries like china, which we've just seen them sending these spy balloons over latin america and the united states that there's a risk of international escalation as well. that has to be considered so obviously is something that needs to be carefully balanced. but when you are talking about somebody like vladimir putin or you're talking jinping you're talking about xi jinping , strongmen only , these are strongmen only understand strengths. they don't understand strengths. they don't understand softly or respect that at all. so there's an element of a psychological game involved here as well. and that makes the whole situation, i think, a lot more complicated . think, a lot more complicated. but i think the point is that this can be watched with great interest and concern in moldova and taiwan. if you and in taiwan. but if you actually have a look at the sphere of russian influence, i mean, can't, you mean, armenia, i can't, you know, very indeed was actually talking joining the talking about joining the european. now they're in the russian because they've russian customs because they've been think been forced into it. i think people think we've actually let

crimea let a whole crimea go. we've let a whole range of georgia, for example was occupied. know, this is was occupied. you know, this is where we stop and when you say , where we stop and when you say, well, we're looking at the images here, i'm sorry, but i zelenskyy can buy another outfit which is not combat fatigues is going to see the prime minister why is he wearing his green cargo pants and his green sweatshirt ? that for me is just sweatshirt? that for me is just art. an inappropriate optics is optics. yes this is not actually a in a war zone right now. optics. yes this is not actually a in a war zone right now . why a in a war zone right now. why can't you put a suit and tie with churchill? churchill used to wear a boiler suit. all the time and he was walking around london during blitz. he's where a suit. it's actually a boiler suit. it's actually called a siren suit. was like called a siren suit. it was like a zip up suit. we being a zip up suit. we were being bombed point. yes, we bombed at that point. yes, we were. good. civil is it were. good, good. civil so is it no of getting his suit no risk. of getting his suit dirty in downing street? oh, there. there are parts of london. it's noisy. is to be london. it's noisy. is it? to be fair on zelenskyy? it's not his image. i would image. i people would be confused going to say confused to say i'm going to say it they. but we it wouldn't they. but we shouldn't be. should be shouldn't be. there should be because really into this idea because it really into this idea that acting a role in that

that he's acting a role in that he doesn't want this to end this is working in favour and is working somehow in favour and that ambition part that bigger ambition to be part of and be part and if of nato and be part of eu and if he's constantly casting himself of nato and be part of eu and if he'svictimantly casting himself of nato and be part of eu and if he'svictim and casting himself of nato and be part of eu and if he'svictim and don'tng himself of nato and be part of eu and if he'svictim and don't let1imself of nato and be part of eu and if he'svictim and don't let don't.f the victim and don't let don't get wrong people that the get me wrong the people that the civilians whose lives have been trashed lost in this war is trashed and lost in this war is appalling. but we have to draw a distinction between them and walking like on walking up dressed like he's on a zone, going to ten downing street for lunch to clarify my point, though, think is point, though, i think that is a lansky purpose when it lansky has a purpose when it comes to any his meetings with any international leaders and particularly in front of the ten downing street door that is a photo op and the message that he wants to send to the public as well as to the international community and world leaders , is community and world leaders, is that ukraine is in state of crisis. it's under imminent threat. and so if he up in his military fatigues, i presume that that's that's the thinking . and his wife did different magazine cover for like tatler recently . he was still in magazine cover for like tatler recently. he was still in his green outfit. they were a photo studio. tell me it hasn't got a

wardrobe department. it can't give him suit. what would have been truly weird would be, of course, if rishi sunak had actually dressed to match him? i mean, he imagine that? mean, could he imagine that? facts are to say they facts are about to say they could clothes. the two of could swap clothes. the two of them, it is extraordinary. them, but it is extraordinary. and i just i'd love to and i just think i'd love to know you think home. gb know what you think at home. gb views gbnews.uk what does views at gbnews.uk what does this say to you? is as i was discussing just early with michael fabricant, is it continuing to whet your appetite for increased and continued funding of the war from taxpayers money? because i think thatis taxpayers money? because i think that is an issue and i'm not entirely sure that the public are currently ukraine in their hearts like we did at the beginning. now, i think people have of it as as as we always do, particularly when you have wall wall coverage on any given topic, people get exhausted . topic, people get exhausted. yeah, we're seeing images here . yeah, we're seeing images here. these were only moments ago inside downing street in front of the beautiful within downing street . we've got the union jack street. we've got the union jack on one side and the ukraine flag

on one side and the ukraine flag on the other. sunak in a shirt and tie. and his usual blue suit and tie. and his usual blue suit and zelenskyy in his green sweatshirt and his green pants and his necklace around his neck, just chatting in front of the assembled press. and the photographer says, we don't know what they're saying . this what they're saying. this particular point , i think we particular point, i think we understand, stephen that zelenskyy is going to make a statement in the house of commons some point today. well he's actually going to address both houses in westminster hall in the same way that anthem suu kyi did and pope benedict and bill clinton and, you know, many, many people have done what he will be for is two things. one is material, because he's already got the challenge of tanks. we're about the tanks. we're talking about the leopard. the challenger is a very, good piece of kit. very, very good piece of kit. those now actually those guns, he's now actually looking combat as looking for combat aircraft as well. think point that well. and i think the point that emma very emma might actually very presciently about presciently i think about escalation something that escalation is something that we should aware of because if we should be aware of because if we start committing more and more so for that. so he'll be looking for that. he'd be looking for he'd also be looking for financial particularly financial support, particularly on of ukraine at on the periphery of ukraine at the where people

the present time, where people are terribly. are suffering terribly. yeah, he's obviously zoomed in to parliament before he made a statement on screen to parliament. how significant is it that he's doing this in person? it's a very different thing, i think, to meet with people face to face and to address people physically with the symbolism of westminster hall, as you were , the people hall, as you were, the people who have come before him made similar addresses to both houses . it's a it's politically significant for him. it's historically significant . and i historically significant. and i like i said, you know, zelenskyy has a purpose in his diplomatic relations. he's trying get more intervention ukraine. he's trying to get more kit , trying trying to get more kit, trying to get more support financially and otherwise, militarily and to some degree , zelenskyy has not some degree, zelenskyy has not an interest in escalation , but an interest in escalation, but he has more of an interest in pushing boundaries because he wants to ensure that the ukraine gets all of its territory back , gets all of its territory back, doesn't make any compromises with russia. and so i think you

to look at this in in the of ukraine's own strategy and it's also symbolic not just in relation to the uk but also in relation to the uk but also in relation to the rest of europe, because, as i say, britain has taken the lead on this. and so by addressing what parliament areas and having meetings as he will be doing with people in person, that sends a to other european leaders that they need to get themselves sorted in terms of supporting what zelenskyy is asking for. so whether you agree with what he wants or not, i think that's for him, that will that will be the purpose of this trip. and we've got some more images. so it's just him walking out the room going away. i was going to the robert was about how the door and so i think we should actually be giving credit poland as well. i think britain has to do everything, but the very good points have taken an enormous number because number of people also, because don't forget that lviv was don't don't forget that lviv was part poland until the last part of poland until the last war. so this a very, very close

when you go to ukraine. i think i think drive across the i think if you drive across the country east to they country from east to west, they speak russian, first of all, then but then polish. then ukrainian, but then polish. so think the future of ukraine so i think the future of ukraine as an entity as it presently is, is has not entirely been decided . i think if there was a plebiscite in parts of the donbas region around donetsk , be donbas region around donetsk, be that there would be a pro—russia minority that we're talking about just just we're talking about just just we're talking about the psychology of putin, though, effectively how though, and effectively how to play though, and effectively how to play not is not play him. does this not is not quite antagonistic if he's warming up his nuclear weapons over that, is it? not quite. i'm talking to stick to have zelenskyy here. i think whatever we do is going to be seen antagonistic whatever we do. i mean, the game. it's mean, it's the end game. it's a difficult thing the stauffenberg plot a target remember when plot was a target remember when the russian the german generals tried because tried to kill hitler because he just too. had just went too. and they had klaus von stauffenberg kind of the gelignite, the briefcase full of gelignite, the briefcase full of gelignite, the i a lot the desk. right. i mean, a lot of people are saying within of people are saying that within the kremlin at the moment, within military high within the military high command, a feeling of command, there was a feeling of absolute no absolute repulsion. there is no end game. is now is a

end game. all there is now is a permanent winter war that's going go on the that's what going to go on the that's what it going to it feels like. it's going to it's go forever, right? it's going to go forever, right? emma steven pound, brilliant emma web steven pound, brilliant as usual. thank so much, as usual. thank you so much, guys. come the the guys. we've come the end of the show. it's flown by. coming up next, live mark next, dvd is live with mark longhurst bev turner. i'll see you tomorrow morning ten. you tomorrow morning at ten. hello mcgivern hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met. fog clearing across central southern across central and southern parts during the rest parts of the uk during the rest of the morning and then dry for many afternoon. it many into the afternoon. but it will turn increasingly wet and. windy in the north now you can see the contrast across the uk. high pressure close to the south like winds and clear skies allowing frost and fog to form by dawn this morning. but a weather front moving into northwest scotland , bringing northwest scotland, bringing a strengthening winds, gales 65 to 75 mile per hour gusts for the outer hebrides and some heavy for a time during the afternoon . as that's pushing south, it will push into northern england, west wales as well as cornwall. but to the southeast actually plenty sunshine , the fog plenty of sunshine, the fog lifts and fairly widely across

the uk reaching 8 to 10 celsius. now the front across scotland pushes south through the and it will fall as snow over the high ground as it clears then wintry showers follow for northern scotland. parts of northern ireland as well. snow and hail in places mainly over the hills. the front weakens though as it pushes south, it will prevent a frost in the far south with some to begin things on thursday . to begin things on thursday. otherwise, for north wales, northern england, southern frosty conditions and bright skies. but for northern ireland as well as for much of the rest of scotland, we've got those showers continuing to pile in a gusty wind . well, for the far gusty wind. well, for the far north rain and the drizzle and the low cloud clears quite quickly during the morning in the south and then sunny skies once again, 8 to 10 celsius across much of england and wales, feeling , though, for wales, feeling, though, for scotland, the northern ireland with those blustery showers moving through the showers do tend to ease into thursday evening we'll see a lot of cloud

arrive into the north in the west from the atlantic and that's the start of mild episode of weather heading into the weekend mostly cloudy skies this weekend mostly cloudy skies this weekend but some brightness in the south and temperatures rising for most .