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didn't get this , but supposedly didn't get this . it wants to treat terrorism as a mental illness and taxpayers money may stress on them, may have even gone to a group that supported the taliban. yeah we're expecting to hear from the home secretary in the house of commons. that's live that we'll bnng commons. that's live that we'll bring that to you as just said, do you think that terrorism really is a mental illness and couple of this people could go on to become gender neutral . on to become gender neutral. i've heard bishops also launch a project which could scrap male pronouns for god as well as reference all farther in favour of gender or indeed female alternative . get in touch gb alternative. get in touch gb views at gb news uk. where do you draw the line on military aid for ukraine? big one that. and do you think terror is a mental illness? gb views need uk, but right now it's your headunes. uk, but right now it's your headlines . good afternoon is headlines. good afternoon is 3:00. this is latest from the gb
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newsroom. the president of ukraine has left buckingham palace after meeting with king charles. is following an historic address he made to mp at westminster hall volodymyr zelenskyy was welcomed by the prime minister as he touched down in uk this morning. prime minister as he touched down in uk this morning . the down in uk this morning. the pair held a bilateral at downing street. it's his first visit to the country since the start of invasion. in a speech parliament, mr. zelenskyy thanked the british people for their ongoing support. he spoke of the last time he visited the uk and was invited sit in winston churchill's chair at the war room. the guide smiled and offered me to sit down on this armchair from which warders have been given. and he asked , how been given. and he asked, how did i feel . and i said that did i feel. and i said that i certainly felt something . but it certainly felt something. but it is only now that i what the
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feeling was and all ukrainians know it perfectly well to it is the feeling of how bravery takes through the most unimaginable, harsh ships to finally reward with victory governments and around the world to offering support to turkey in syria after a devastating killed more than 11,000 people. three british nationals are still missing following the disaster . nationals are still missing following the disaster. a 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit monday morning with a second major quake. a few hours , the quake. a few hours, the government has to support turkey's president who's declared a state of emergency for months in the ten worst affected cities , dawn has been affected cities, dawn has been visiting one of the areas affected . the 77 strong british affected. the 77 strong british search and rescue team are assisting in the country . the
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assisting in the country. the new conservative chairman has told gb news upcoming local elections would be a challenge for his party following a mini cabinet reshuffle yesterday . cabinet reshuffle yesterday. greg hands has replaced nadhim zahawi who was sacked over his tax affairs. the has also created 14 new departments with an aim to boost the economy and address the energy . grant shapps address the energy. grant shapps head up a new energy security and net zero department which will focus on secure the uk's long term energy supply . the long term energy supply. the home secretary says the government's anti—terror prevent programme , a major reform after programme, a major reform after a review, found the programme is not doing enough to tackle non—food violent islamist extremism . suella braverman says extremism. suella braverman says the government to better understand the threat ideology underpinning them . the home underpinning them. the home office has accepted all 34 recommendations . the former mp recommendations. the former mp for sheffield , jared o'mara, has
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for sheffield, jared o'mara, has been found guilty of six counts of fraud from during his time in office . the labour politician office. the labour politician who was a member parliament between 2017 and 2019 was on trial for fake invoices to independent parliamentary standards to fund a cocaine habit. a jury cleared him of two other charges. sentencing will take place tomorrow at leeds court . the church of england court. the church of england move away from thousand the year old tradition of referring to as he in the future its after priests within the ask to use gender neutral instead. religious say a new project on gendered language will begin this spring. any changes to be approved by church's decision making body synod . and royal making body synod. and royal mail have revealed the first and second class items that will feature portrait of king charles. the design draws inspiration from stamps that feature the late queen
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elizabeth. royal mail's director david gold has described as a defining part of the king's reign. the stamp has go on sale from april this a gb news will bnng from april this a gb news will bring you monies as it happens. not a fact to . not a fact to. patrick freedom will and russia will lose. that's the message from volodymyr zelenskyy . the volodymyr zelenskyy. the ukrainian president came to the uk today and delivered a hallmark speech , westminster hallmark speech, westminster hallmark speech, westminster hall to members of both houses of his address, of parliament. his address, zelenskyy praised pm's past and present . both boris and rishi, present. both boris and rishi, their assistance in the war effort . he their assistance in the war effort. he said that global uk leadership was needed, declaring britain extended its helping hand when the world had not yet come to understand to how see that we got in there first. i
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don't we're absolutely right to don't we're absolutely right to do that. ladies and gentlemen. but i am asking you today at what point do we maybe draw the line? you want to draw the line? do you want to draw the line? do you want to draw the line? what's the alternative? i suppose we just let putin win. can same time, when can we? at the same time, when we start talking about training of fight nato's of troops to fight nato's fighter that mean fighter jets, does that mean that is officially that nato is officially involved? world involved? does that mean world war does that then war three? does that then increase the risk a nuclear increase the risk of a nuclear war? your views gb views gbnews.uk. would you go as far as plenty you do seem to want as plenty of you do seem to want to putting troops on the to of putting troops on the ground there? of ground over there? lots of questions but let's cross questions today, but let's cross to palace to speak to to buckingham palace to speak to our royal reporter, walker. cameron, great to. have you on the show. now, zelenskyy has just a with the just left after a visit with the king. doesn't it? he certainly has, patrick. yes, a very motorcade just left the north motorcade is just left the north gate of buckingham palace here. it was a meeting that was scheduled to last 45 minutes or so. it happens the 1844 room of the palace, the king greeted president zelenskyy with a handshake and warm smiles. ironically, actually, it's
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zelenskyy arrived having , just zelenskyy arrived having, just delivered his speech in westminster , and that's westminster, and that's buckingham palace . the king buckingham palace. the king himself. the king was slightly delayed coming from prior engagements in east london. east london with the british bangladeshi community. so originally president zelenskyy was by his angry little lieutenant colonel john thompson and the king's private secretary, clive alderton, first. but the king has expressed in the past support for ukraine, particularly when he was prince of wales, he had a very strong words following the invasion and he called out putin's , i quote, brutal putin's, i quote, brutal aggression following , the aggression following, the invasion of ukraine. and president zelenskyy in his speech , westminster hall and speech, westminster hall and talks about the gratitude he has to his majesty the king and royal family for their support. as he said, it was a great honour and, a truly special moment for me and country to be ianed moment for me and country to be invited to buckingham palace for an audience with the king. now, president zelenskyy said that he
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intended to bring up with charles the fact that he is he has his raaf wings. but the facts in ukraine, every pilot is a king in themselves . he's a king in themselves. he's referring, of course, to the fact that's president zelenskyy wants the to send fighter jets to aid that war in ukraine. but of course president zelenskyy i don't think because the king has to be very careful in terms of politics now i don't think we'll see strong words as we have done. he was prince of wales, but i think the fact that's the king and president's wolanski was palace and. was in buckingham palace and. we have of that have photographs of that, that power, diplomacy, that the power, soft diplomacy, that the king has is really shining through here today. yeah cameron, thank you very much. come and walk it out. our reporter just outside buckingham where just left on, where zelinsky has just left on, he was in downing street and then he was in westminster hall. i've asking you and we'll be asking you because is big asking you because this is big story okay. i'm story today. okay. i'm potentially what potentially depending on what happens ukraine only happens next in ukraine only going get bigger well. but
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going to get bigger as well. but i'm asking you what you think in terms of how far britain should now in terms support now go in terms of support ukraine? want to quickly ukraine? i just want to quickly give bit of context give you a little bit of context in of what we've so in terms of what we've done so far in. the uk provided far in. total, the uk provided £23 far in. total, the uk provided £2.3 of military to £2.3 billion of military aid to ukraine 2022, than other ukraine 2022, more than other nafion ukraine 2022, more than other nation except the united states and we have committed to sustain same level of funding for coming yeah same level of funding for coming year. uk armed have trained thousands of ukrainian soldiers as well. we've committed to tanks and now to training fighter pilots as. tanks and now to training fighter pilots as . well is that fighter pilots as. well is that the next step really towards actually frankly giving them nato's sponsored fighter jets and would that really mean, ladies and gentlemen , a mixed ladies and gentlemen, a mixed bag in the inbox so far, just patrick, we should give them everything that they need. and that's andrew. john that's from andrew. but john says, why it always britain? that's from andrew. but john says,has/ it always britain? that's from andrew. but john says,has to it always britain? that's from andrew. but john says,has to stand/ays britain? that's from andrew. but john says,has to stand up; britain? that's from andrew. but john says,has to stand up andtain? that's from andrew. but john says,has to stand up and bear the who has to stand up and bear the cost? i think really is cost? and i think really is a good example of where we're at. keep your views coming and gb views i'm joined views gbnews.uk. but i'm joined now political now while political reporter catherine was of catherine forster who was one of those was in westminster for those who was in westminster for president speech president zelensky's speech to a momentous occasion . it really
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momentous occasion. it really was a moment in history. westminster hall has seen so many historical moments and for volodymyr zelenskyy to come and address both houses parliament. this is only the second time he's been out of ukraine since the war began last year. at the end of last year he went, of course , and i think that's a course, and i think that's a measure of the high regard that ukraine hold the uk in the very, very special relationship that he has. boris johnson of course he has. boris johnson of course he paid special tribute and rishi sunak the current pm continuing in that vein and it was an emotive speech. he's very skilled at. speaking of course. he trained as an actor. he's there , the khaki sweatshirt he there, the khaki sweatshirt he always seems to wear these days and he came thanking the uk saying . what a special moment it saying. what a special moment it had been to come to the uk before about drinking tea, talked about looking forward to
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meeting king and then cycled back t again as a way to into requesting plane . because of requesting plane. because of course we were the to come forward with support last we were the first to say yes, we'll send you modern battle tanks and. now his hope is that he can persuade the uk to be first to supply fighter jets. now there's no guarantee at all that that's going to happen . boris johnson going to happen. boris johnson has called for us to send . he has called for us to send. he said we've got 100 typhoon jets. that would be the best single use of them. but of course not up to boris johnson because he's no longer prime minister. so will tell. but the fact that rishi sunak has now announced that in addition claim that in addition to claim training ukrainian troops now going to train ukrainian pilots on uk soil and would suggest certainly there is a shift in direction. yes indeed. caspar, thank you very, very catherine forster. there are a political reporter and that is the
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westminster angle. well, in a few moments i'll be speaking to former defence minister conservative mp alec schulberg. but first i'm joined now by dr. stephen hall, a lecturer in russian and post—soviet politics at university of bath. great to have you on the show. i'm just going to ask the question. i think that a lot of our viewers, our listeners really want, which is, oh, we kind of already at war with russia . well, i don't war with russia. well, i don't think we are actually . well, think we are actually. well, because there's not been obviously declaration war. i obviously a declaration war. i think the uk is supporting think that the uk is supporting military and economically. ukraine it's not fighting a war. russia by itself , if it was the russia by itself, if it was the nature troops be in ukraine. but because ukraine is not a member of nato it's not actually fighting russian troops. but this is a different thing . as we this is a different thing. as we know , countries are allowed to know, countries are allowed to support one another in terms of self—defence, an aggressor. yes, indeed. self—defence, an aggressor. yes, indeed . the argument against indeed. the argument against giving zelenskyy any more stuff,
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really? military equipment support is that it will anger putin and that could lead to a massive escalation from a chap who is already relatively unhinged . and of course, you are unhinged. and of course, you are a lecturer in russian and post—soviet politics. is any risk of that ? well, i certainly risk of that? well, i certainly think there a possibility, as we've seen some coming out, the russian elite believe that putin is crazy , but i don't think that is crazy, but i don't think that there is any escalation in terms of nuclear , which is something of nuclear, which is something that i think you are alert in. so we would see certainly that need to give support to as much support to ukraine possible in order to ukraine from russian aggression. and this , i don't aggression. and this, i don't think is going to lead to a significant escalation on the part of the russians, because i do believe that they necessarily have the capacity to further escalate to a great extent . escalate to a great extent. okay. just very finally on this one. now, the big question is about fighter jets. it appears to be today . would you advise us to be today. would you advise us to be today. would you advise us to send fighter jets on for nato
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to send fighter jets on for nato to send fighter jets on for nato to send fighter jets over there 7 to send fighter jets over there ? i think at the moment there is very, very little . i think that very, very little. i think that certainly is a need to send fighter jets because certainly is a need to send fighterjets because has certainly is a need to send fighter jets because has the pilots it needs to be able to win . the skies, control of the win. the skies, control of the skies, fighter jets are necessary if the typhoons or the fighters are lying idle as were then they should be to ukraine in order to support ukraine in its need to itself from russian aggression . okay, look, thank aggression. okay, look, thank you very much, shaun sweet, but it's a high tempo dance this show. i'm afraid so. i'll talk to you again soon. that's dr. hall, a lecturer in russian and post—soviet politics at the university bath. pleased to university of bath. pleased to say now alex say that i'm now by alex holbrook, is the holbrook, who is the conservative mp for elements in rothwell it was in westminster hall for president zelenskyy's speech and course of a speech and of course of a defence expose yourself, look you very, very much i mean it was clearly remarkable and such a historic day . a lot of the a historic day. a lot of the british public i think all
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concerned about the risk for escalation , whether or not we escalation, whether or not we are just paving the way now for full frontal war with russia. your views views . yeah, i mean, your views views. yeah, i mean, look, certainly this is our war beyond the no , this is our war. beyond the no, this is our war. this is our front line cost of living, crisis , whether it be living, crisis, whether it be fuel, whether it be wheat, whether it be fertilisers this is our war. and if we are to lose this war, then the reality is, is that russia will a financial control over resources we need. they will walk into other countries. we cannot isolate ourselves from this war. the action we are taking is to support a democratically elected country , if we are to lose, will country, if we are to lose, will a major power to walk into other democratic elected countries we isolate ourselves so ? it's isolate ourselves so? it's absolutely vital that we are giving the weapons supplies that are needed to help bring win this war. i what you say, but you're saying this is our war. if people had initially that first day that putin rolled the tanks and britain sprung into
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action as it was indeed to do so. and since then $2.3 billion worth of military aid, we've got a whole range of stuff, a storm of vehicles anti—air missiles, multiple launch rocket systems, tanks now training for fighter pilots as well. well are we going to send troops ? i'm going going to send troops? i'm going to try and guess what you said there, because i was picking up a few things. but i think you're just talking about troops. yeah. so what we are all doing of course is helping using our troops to train troops. troops to train their troops. i don't it's the troop don't think it's the troop message. i think is about hardware. i think we do need to send more tanks. we do. send more tanks. i think we do. to aircraft in there. now, to get aircraft in there. now, the question one of the aircraft question is one of which of aircraft? i think which type of aircraft? i think it was terrible of the americans to kibosh on remaining to put the kibosh on remaining in poland wanting give its migs to the ukrainians. they in poland wanting give its migs to the ukrainians . they know how to the ukrainians. they know how to the ukrainians. they know how to fly those now , they could be to fly those now, they could be using now and they using those jets now and they could backfill those could be backfill those countries the f—35 out of countries with the f—35 out of the so i wouldn't the typhoons. so i wouldn't seeing typhoons getting sent there there is a there to used. but there is a time like in training pilots on
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that. so not so sure it's that. so i'm not so sure it's ground troops. that's ground troops. i think that's probably taking to probably taking it to a different area. but there is certain a hell of lot we can certain a hell of a lot we can be doing . and quite frankly, if be doing. and quite frankly, if you've equipment, well, you've got this equipment, well, what do? it's our what do we do? it's still our war the fact is, is that if war and the fact is, is that if we don't on this we don't win on this battlefield, will be battlefield, that will be another which will another battlefield which will have to be in we've to have to be in we've got to defeat russia is . it just defeat russia is. it just our war, though, because , yes, other war, though, because, yes, other countries getting involved, countries are getting involved, probably a little bit. why is it our responsibility in the middle of a cost of living crisis? shouldn't the germans and the french and frankly, other european countries who putin european countries who if putin is intent on expansion as is as intent on expansion as people such yourself say that people such as yourself say that is, well, they'd crumble first, wouldn't they ? yeah, right. he's wouldn't they? yeah, right. he's a bit of a battle. i'm trying to just guess you're saying so in terms of why is it our war? i mean, it isn't just our war, obviously, it is a wider picture. britain is obviously at the forefront contribution. and yeah, i would to see more of the european colleagues, more to stand mean, quite it is stand up to. i mean, quite it is
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ridiculous amount of time it's taken for the german government to give the go ahead for the leopard tanks and that speaks to a whole wider about european defence which i'll come on your show another but show and talk about another but the reality is that the americans are stepping but in my mind they just don't do it quickly enough. and there's always around. certain always a pause around. certain areas, migs being the main areas, the migs being the main thing. but look , we are thing. but look, we are a country who is big on the world stage but one of the nuclear powers do take a lead in these things because we recognise and i slight difference. i think a slight difference. europe in culture and i think, you know, we all sort of separate in that democracy absolutely reigns supreme and has got to be protected and i think sometimes you see the dhhenng think sometimes you see the dithering going , it raises a dithering going, it raises a whole host other questions, but that doesn't mean we say, well, we got wait for them to do we got to wait for them to do something . leaders. we're something. we're leaders. we're world recognise world leaders and we recognise what to country what will happen to this country if don't help the ukrainians if we don't help the ukrainians win war. just lastly, i'm win this war. just lastly, i'm aware it's a bad line. i hope you can hear this clearly. if
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volodymyr zelenskyy explicitly asked for troops on the ground , asked for troops on the ground, would you support that ? so in of would you support that? so in of asking for troops on the ground . i think it all depends in the context of how they want it to be used . if it's about training be used. if it's about training troops on the ground and we need to get closer to theatre to get those closer to theatre maybe but we are actually troops are engaged heavily in training ukrainian troops. are engaged heavily in training ukrainian troops . and actually ukrainian troops. and actually the british army is learning a lot the ukrainian soldiers. lot of the ukrainian soldiers. so i think it's not necessarily about putting them up to the front, which i think perhaps is the conversation people have is about can support. but about what we can support. but actually what we need more of is not soldiers the front line not soldiers on the front line is equipment used on is they equipment to be used on the line. okay, look, the front line. okay, look, thank you very, very much really great to you on the show great to have you on the show and get insight you and and get insight from you and viewers. and i do hope we viewers. and i do hope that we do again soon. charles. do talk again soon. charles. alex conservative do talk again soon. charles. ale element conservative do talk again soon. charles. ale element and onservative do talk again soon. charles. aleelement and rothwell'e in for element and rothwell was in westminster for speech and westminster hall for speech and of course as well was minister of course as well was minister of state for defence procurement
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in the ministry of defence from september 2022 to october 2022. so a brief stint possessed some insight. nonetheless you're with me. patrick christys on gb news coming up a review into the government's anti terror strategy has found that it's not doing tackle non doing enough to tackle non violent islamist extremism. the government has accepted all 34 recommendations of this long awaited assessment of the prevention programme , which aims prevention programme, which aims to stop people turning to terrorism, including a recommendation . and this, i recommendation. and this, i think, is vital to treat terrorism as a mental illness. do you think terrorism is a mental i want to know on the partner of missing mother of two nicola bailey has visited the where police believe that she fell wyre will be fell into the river wyre will be crossing live to lancashire in a sec. let's get to quincy today . sec. let's get to quincy today. that's how upset lots of it about the fact that it .
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welcome now the pond of missing nicola bailey has visited the spot where police believe . she spot where police believe. she fell into the river wyre yesterday. lancashire police superintendent sally riley said detectives have looked at every single potential suspicion that had come in and discounted . so had come in and discounted. so the search for the mother of two is still ongoing. let's get more on the very latest on cross to lancashire now. what gb news reporter at sophie reaper so be thank you very very much. so yes her partner visited the scene. what she fell into what police? that she fell into the river? he did indeed. and unfortunately , the biggest drop unfortunately, the biggest drop i can give you at this is there's the really isn't much of an update to give certainly not the update that we know that nicola's friends and family are absolutely desperate for. now, we do know, as you say, that paul we do know, as you say, that paul, her partner has been down at the site this morning where police believe nicola originally went missing from. we know that he also spoke , peter folding, he also spoke, peter folding, who is the founder of sgi. we
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that peter walked paul through the different stages of their investigation. they've been here for the past three days helping lancashire police search the river wyre for signs of nicola, billy . we also know now that billy. we also know now that today is the last day the sgi will be here at the river wyre in lancashire . we think that in lancashire. we think that they feel , they've done all they they feel, they've done all they can . peter folding has said can. peter folding has said wherever she is. i hope closure comes soon. we also know that the police have been here in the river. why it's say we're expecting them any to appear and for the end of their day but as far as we know neither them nor the sgi team have found any sign that could indicate exactly what happened to nicola. goodness me. yes the mystery continues to deepen. unfortunately he doesn't say. thank you very, very much, david, that update. so no doubt we'll be going back to you as anything comes. us reporters have repor that who's from lancashire at the scene.
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interesting yesterday well. interesting yesterday as well. we peter folding we did speak to peter folding who's chap in charge of the who's the chap in charge of the independent sonar team independent sonar dive team taking place that he was presumed to be in here anyway. that they are doing everything they they've not located they can. they've not located anything to his mind anything yet. and to his mind anyway, would seem to imply that potentially nicola is not in the river. we spoke a lot about that yesterday. not much of an update taking and with every taking place and with every day this with every this is now day 12 with every day goes on the mystery to day that goes on the mystery to deepen. the home secretary deepen. but the home secretary leaving pledged overhaul leaving has pledged to overhaul the government's prevent scheme after independent review after an independent review found was to found the organisation was to concerned with treating terrorism as a mental illness rather than threat. william shawcross this stated that treating terrorism a mental illness or a social deficiency see that can be placated by services, might make acts of extreme violence seem more intelligible . some, yes. intelligible. some, yes. ultimately this approach fails to grasp the inherently nature of and terrorism. so recommendations also stressed that prevention should go back to first principles and reassert
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its overall of stopping people from becoming terrorists or supporting terrorism. no amnesty international, uk who committed , by the way, fascinating. we did , as we often do with amnesty did, as we often do with amnesty international trying, to get them on this very show. and it all goes rather quiet. but there we international, uk we amnesty international, uk says. we amnesty international, uk says . the prevent review has no says. the prevent review has no legitimacy and was critical of the claiming was the findings, claiming was riddled biased thinking , riddled with biased thinking, plain anti—muslim prejudice. well, yes. like i said, they did not particularly want to come on and back up live on air. but let me go now, home secretary suella braverman, who is expected to make statement about the make a statement about the findings commons. well, findings in the commons. well, this independent this is set this independent review identified areas review has identified areas where is required. where real reform is required. this includes a need prevent to better understand islamist which underpins predominant terrorist threat facing the uk. i wholeheartedly accept all 34 recommendations and i'm committed to quickly delivering wholesale change to ensure we are taking every step to protect
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our country from the threat posed by terrorism. what i find fascinating here there are certain things that just don't seem add up to me. how can it be inherently anti islamic and against all muslims i suppose. remember last night on a show i was covering between eight and 9 pm, he said it was against all p.m, he said it was against all muslims. okay, but then at the same time it is now being accused. well, potentially anyway being too soft on it. so how both of those things be how can both of those things be particularly married? i don't quite understand idea is quite understand it. the idea is treating radical islamic or indeed far rights are as predominately a mental illness and not some kind of warped ideological criminal behaviour. i think is a little bit of a concern, especially when you look at some of the people who supped look at some of the people who slipped through net the slipped through the net the amount attacks we've amount of terror attacks we've had country where people had in this country where people were how were known to authorities. how can be that prevent is can it really be that prevent is bang up front when it comes all of this stuff. oh yes. just to top it all off, there was one particular group well who particular group as well who supposedly the supposedly took money from the prevent on to prevent and then went on to support it, at least verbally. anyway, the taliban, is anyway, the taliban, which is
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not great look and. just to not a great look and. just to top all off as well. we were top it all off as well. we were even this report might be even told this report might be watered not racial watered down as to not racial tension. so it does to tension. so it does not up to me. joining now is joanne me. joining me now is joanne mahmood, adviser on mahmood, government adviser on prevention. very much. prevention. thank you very much. a feelings quite a lot of strong feelings quite often coming from me to be fair about prevent scheme is about this prevent scheme is inherently anti—muslim . well it inherently anti—muslim. well it to be disproportionately focussed muslims for the far right concern is increase and has been increasing. i more questions patrick on shawcross as being the man who's doing the review that worries me more than anything. to be fair. okay well go and talk to me about that. well basically he belongs to a certain spectrum of people who believe muslims are going to the indigenous and take over the country. and i think that is an in its own right, which is closer to some of the right wing ideals. yes, of course, ideology does role, but i've also in does play role, but i've also in my research and having spoke to people who are on the periphery and those convicted of terrorism that, some of these guys do have
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mental health issues. there's no doubt that from a sighting report by m15 from twice tonight night, they found that these actually had a poor understanding of their own faith. if it is ideological and islam has a big role in it, faith. if it is ideological and islam has a big role in it , then islam has a big role in it, then you would wonder why the whole muslim popular isn't up in arms, especially with respect . especially with respect. respect. if i may, i think possibly being slightly disingenuous on a couple of points now, you're clearly a very man and i refuse believe that you don't understand that, for example the far right of absolutely indisputably on the rise, far right on the rise. but from incredibly low base and the main is anyone in the security services will you is still from radical islamist terrorism and on that point as well the argument isn't that all muslims is not us at all is the fact that radical islamist terrorism , which is a let me just give you the figures, patrick. think on average it works out to about
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five deaths a year due to acts of terrorism by a muslim say. right now , the level of right now, the level of disproportionate focus on muslims for some groups and advocacy groups is concern, and rightly so. i mean , for me, rightly so. i mean, for me, who's been involved in national security and certainly is deeply about, you know, any civilian their life, i mean. well, i understand is approximately 2 to 300 people who die way of knife knife crime every we just the media just doesn't seem to be interested i mean in civilians across the board now about how we it on knife crime. i do a heck of a lot on knife and i agree with you absolutely the stop athon that seems to be taking place in not just our capital city, but the country. the breakdown in law and order. yeah, absolutely. prevent is yeah, absolutely. but prevent is specifically counter—terrorism. yeah, absolutely. but prevent is specifica said ounter—terrorism. yeah, absolutely. but prevent is specifica said kind r—terrorism. yeah, absolutely. but prevent is specifica said kind of terrorism. yeah, absolutely. but prevent is specifica said kind of only'ism. yeah, absolutely. but prevent is specifica said kind of only five and you said kind of only five people a year die. i'm sure that you would argue as well that thatis you would argue as well that that is five too many. but the main reason that is all security services stop so many terror
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attacks, often at a very, very late stage and the vast majority of those stopped are radical attacks . no, that's not actually attacks. no, that's not actually true. in recent years, it's actually been the far right. there's been an increase number since 2020. so we should look at this from a balance perspective and we're not and i think that people like shawcross who has a anti—muslim view and, he does he does belong to a group of people. let's call out for what it is that he believes that muslims are breeding like rabbits is somehow going to take over the country and the political representation we currently in government, i mean, a pretty inept. don't see that a pretty inept. i don't see that happening at least that happening in at least that 50 years. he's nothing worry years. so he's got nothing worry about if anything about he's actually if anything you just dividing the prospect you just dividing the prospect you know just public opinion on himself i think when you remove and get the money spare i will give you i will give i will give as you can imagine. mr. shawcross, the ross reply in a minute one with minute but just one more with you that's all right, which you if that's all right, which is there are reports strong that groups such as the a group were
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given a lot of money as given quite a lot of money as part of prevent scheme and part of the prevent scheme and then unfortunately then rather unfortunately went to that. might be quite a to on that. it might be quite a good the taliban were good thing that the taliban were now charge of afghanistan. now in charge of afghanistan. the public, you the british public, i'm sure you can understand, would absolutely terrified to money stop terrified that to money stop extremism to an extremism was going to an individual might even individual who might even entertain the idea that the taliban quite thing . i taliban quite a good thing. i mean i've got a bigger mean patrick i've got a bigger worry and worry that. the americans and the were involved in the british were involved in some negotiation the some kind of negotiation for the taliban back in the taliban to come back in the first i don't think that first place. i don't think that was sense that can call out was sense that we can call out individuals. but you've individuals. fine. but if you've got across the got double standards across the spectrum, that's worry as well. because if i understand you're saying and i don't understand what you're saying, but look, you're saying, what you're saying, but look, you're saying , look, should you're saying, look, should taxpayers money have gone to an individual whose job it was, at least on paper , is trying to least on paper, is trying to stop extremism, who is sympathetic to the taliban ? sympathetic to the taliban? well, to be i'm not in a position to that question. i think the government and the office should be. i'm just saying, double standards exist across the spectrum of the may
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the great worry is, is that you've got a government who's meant to lead by example and if people fall into place you've got who's got a government who's supporting sending to the supporting and sending to the saudis and then saying, oh by the way, wahhabism is this literal interpretation of islam that. we're worried about there is the likes the is influence the likes of the taliban and supported the taliban and has supported the taliban and has supported the taliban think you know taliban and i think you know you've got call yourself out you've got to call yourself out first you start picking first before you start picking on you're leading on individuals you're leading the on their own. the government on their own. they're all elements to this. i agree with you. and are agree with you. and there are elements think it's elements this i think it's madness that we're doing things that with the saudis. yeah, look. look, thank you very look. okay, look, thank you very much, if you much, rose. if you want discussion did enjoy discussion that's i did enjoy it. amazed former it. i'm amazed former government's prevent government's adviser on prevent i strong i imagine there'll be strong views got to give views on that i've got to give a response now obviously from mr. shawcross said that shawcross himself. he said that accusations that prevent was anti an insult and anti muslim were an insult and allege that there was a concerted campaign to undermine it. his response that it. so that's his response that because rather because there was some rather strong levelled him by strong stuff levelled at him by old jihadi , it was the former old jihadi, it was the former government adviser on prevent rise. there we we rise. well, there we go. we rattle through the first half
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hour show. with hour of the show. you're with me, patrick gb news coming me, patrick is on gb news coming up. got man a woman. up. it's got man or a woman. yeah, it's a that's being debated by the head of debated today by the head of england considers gender england as it considers gender neutral terms. they refer to the almighty . oh, my god. i see. i'd almighty. oh, my god. i see. i'd lost . patrick. thank you. good lost. patrick. thank you. good afternoon. i'm tatiana sanchez. this is latest from the gb newsroom, the president of ukraine has left buckingham palace after meeting with king charles. it's following an historic address he made to mp at westminster hall. historic address he made to mp at westminster hall . volodymyr at westminster hall. volodymyr zelenskyy was welcomed the prime minister as he touched down in the uk this morning before pair held a bilateral meeting at downing street. it's his first visit to the country since , the visit to the country since, the start of russia's invasion . in start of russia's invasion. in a speech to parliament mr. zelenskyy, thanked the british people for their ongoing support . he spoke of the last time visited the uk within voted to sit in winston churchill's at
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the war rooms and gods smiled and offered me to sit down on this armchair from which war orders have been given . and he orders have been given. and he asked me , how did i feel ? and asked me, how did i feel? and i said that i certainly felt something something, but it only now that i know what the feeling was and all ukraine fans know it perfectly well to it is the feeling of how bravery takes you the most and imaginable hardships to finally reward you with victory . garvin comments with victory. garvin comments and organisations around world are offering support to and syria after earthquakes have killed than 11,000 people. three
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british nationals are still following the disaster . british nationals are still following the disaster. a 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit monday morning with a second major quake. morning with a second major quake . a few hours later, the quake. a few hours later, the government has pledged support to turkey's president erdogan, who's been visiting one of the affected areas . a state of affected areas. a state of emergency has declared for three months in the ten worst affected cities and a 77 strong british search and rescue are currently assisting the country . the home assisting the country. the home secretary says the government's prevent programme a major reform after review, found the programme is not doing enough to tackle non—violent islamist extremism. so braverman says the government needs to better understand the threat and ideology underpinning them . the ideology underpinning them. the home office has accepted 34 recommendations tv online and, the abc plus radio. this is .
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welcome back. just a quick one to throw ahead, ladies and gentlemen, in a matter of minutes, i'm informed we are going to be going like to the house of commons by suella braverman is going to be giving an on that prevent an update on that prevent counter strategy counter terror strategy update that earlier for you, that we had earlier for you, which is basically that he's going adopt 34 going to adopt 34 recommendations. essentially, they anyway, not they supposedly anyway, not government but supposedly they supposedly anyway, not governnhas but supposedly they supposedly anyway, not governn has beenupposedly they supposedly anyway, not governn has been treating ly prevent has been treating terrorism as a mental illness would say far too often is it even a mental illness? is it just a dangerous criminal tendency? we'll tendency? so, yes, we'll be heanng our tendency? so, yes, we'll be hearing our home secretary hearing from our home secretary live in the of commons. live in the house of commons. all that . but moving all of that. but moving on, protests have been held this morning against church of morning against the church of england's prayers of , england's offer of prayers of, blessings for same sex couples, calling them an insult and not sufficient. so the synod often thought as the church parliament
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is preparing for a historic vote on the matter. this and i suspect this is one of slightly more entreaty or or even god's pronouns are being called into question as are considering using stopping stopping using gendered language such as he and him and a new project has been launched to discuss the use of more inclusive terms, but it's coming to heavy criticism obviously conservatives who argue that male female imagery is not i don't think it's just conservatives to be very well criticising whether or not we should make god gender neutral, but that we go. joining me now to discuss this british catholic layman , dr. gavin did layman, dr. gavin ashton. did dr. gavin, thank much. dr. gavin, thank very much. great have on the show. great to have you on the show. is a man ? patrick there are is god a man? patrick there are two ways of dealing with this. one is simple on the other side, more complicated. so the simple answer to your question is that we preferred pronouns we use god's preferred pronouns and his preferred pronouns. is he same or complicated? one he the same or complicated? one is what happens if you change pronouns? and the answer is we have we have four possibilities
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and that history of religious experience if you call god in it you you becomes essentially you become buddhist if you call god they you become polytheist not like the hindus. you call god xi, you enter into the world of fertility, religions and gaia and you call god, he you end up with judeo christianity . it with judeo christianity. it would be it would be forjudeo christians to stick with the pronoun to god in the terms they were it. now just reiterate something you said earlier , has something you said earlier, has god pronoun himself as how how sure are you that god's preferred? because that's what everyone is doing. twitter now isn't that you've got pronouns, she, her whatever, and you she, her or whatever, and you have stick those some have to stick with those some smith chosen his their their smith has chosen his their their pronouns and god has done it you saying so god's pronouns himself . well, one reason i'm a christian is because at the different religions , all the different religions, all the regions in the world have been invented by people. i mean would
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say that that's 100% of them. but christians believe that god disclosed himself and said i am like it always has be like because these things literal they're usually metaphorical in order to get more of the truth in i'm like your father so if god says i'm like your father that's his preferred printed non preferred image and that's the one we use if we changed it, we end up, as c.s. one we use if we changed it, we end up, as cs. lewis said, with different religion. so the thing to do is to stay with the religion that god disclosed. if you believe god disclosed, he has himself and christians do, then have to stay with what then you have to stay with what he offered you. is this sequence of worrying pushed to appease something like . 0.06% of the something like. 0.06% of the population ? well, the trouble population? well, the trouble with religion is when it goes bad it it ends up by being something that people make up. and so you can either take the best religion which is handed down to you and you look at you look at what's worked of all you can do. you start making it up
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all by yourself. and the problem with what's on at the moment is people are cutting roots people are cutting their roots of past and making up what of the past and making up what appears to be most congenial to them and it's not going to work. it never has worked well again. one of the reasons being a traditionalist you use what a traditionalist is you use what a good track record for working . good track record for working. so yes, you'll calcul quite right. this this new impetus within the church england is within the church of england is a culturally attuned a form of culturally attuned work. and it won't work. it'll become a different religion and then die out how would lord's prayer work . well, it wouldn't prayer work. well, it wouldn't because one of the things that jesus did was to say being in the hands of god, having a relationship with god is like being for by your father and so you you get closest to god by talking to him as if he were father. if you begin to that to something else, it's different image, a different picture , a image, a different picture, a different relationship with god . if you want a relationship with a mother god, then then
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there are plenty of examples of that. all through history and indeed a lot of has involved fertility worship and involved involve goddesses. but it's different it's a different way of having relationship with god. so they are father would change it would be it would simply be a different god a different relationship, a different religion . i think you've made religion. i think you've made two incredibly compelling points. you made a few before, but two highlights for me the highlight reel of gavin highlight reel of dr. gavin washington, as were, which washington, as it were, which is that god already that basically god has already pronoun so should pronoun himself. so we should obviously respect pronouns as indeed the likes of indeed we do for the likes of sam and keep it as a hey. sam smith and keep it as a hey. but also if we want to change it, then we would be fundamentally changing a religion which presumably religion which is presumably not what england what the church of england actually thank actually want to do. but thank you very great topic and you very much great topic and british catholic laymen dr. gavin ashenden now a spokesman spokesman well is spokesman spokes well is a spokesman spokes well is a spokesman is it spokesperson an individual an individual for the church might be only for the church of england said this is nothing christians have recognised him ancient times
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that god is neither male female yet the variety of ways of addressing in describing god found in scripture has not always been reflected our worship are absolutely worship there are absolutely plans to abolish or substantially currently authorised liturgical rings can tell. i'm not exactly an academic and no such changes could be made without extensive legislation . so there we go. it legislation. so there we go. it looks is that god's own preferred pronouns are safe for the moment, but i certainly must for a time and say, listen, gentlemen, moving on a number of politicians have suggested the mps elections should be mps who lose elections should be given generous payouts. the given more generous payouts. the reason i'm laughing is so what is coming up now right. training for future roles and a mental to thank them for their service though i mean this is just we go well done. you've lost an election hey is a medal during a recent inquiry the commons administration committee noted a lack of recognition for unpaid work and found that some financial challenges hardship after losing their seats. yeah fair enough. absolutely. they
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used examples of resettlement packages by other countries , packages by other countries, including germany, where politicians with a minimum of one year in the job, receive a transitional payout to help them step into new employment. so i suppose he's basically encompassing this idea that pretty much overnight, if there's a snap election and you get before you then could lose your job. get before you then could lose yourjob. and i understand that thatis yourjob. and i understand that that is difficult for employees who lot outgoings, who will have a lot outgoings, maybe have to rent a place maybe even have to rent a place in london, say, and all of this stuff. of a medal stuff. but the idea of a medal really makes, you know. joining me now is of the house of me now is chair of the house of commons administration committee, sir charles walker. sir you much sir charles, thank you very much . now, you want a medal medal . now, do you want a medal medal with one small policy? i when people leave a job, they get a leaving present. don't and this isn't a medal. leaving present. don't and this isn't a medal . the honours isn't a medal. the honours system. it doesn't is after your name. but actually serving democracy is a good thing. serving your country elected member of parliament is a good thing . and i was thought as a
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thing. and i was thought as a committee that actually when you leave and a few weeks say i'm lost, you'll see you could be coming to the speaker's court is it come with your children you with your parliament whatever and we get a medallion of sir they speak as a medallion of service democracy seal parliament. so i know the press and they've been very good about this up . i and they've been very good about this up. i think we might have lost sir charles we're just going to try and get sir charles back. but look what, do you say now? i am. for the record being deliberately flippant, who may deliberately flippant, who may deliberately about this deliberately flippant about this mental makes mental business? it just makes mental business? it just makes me know, now me laugh because, you know, now we have winners and on we don't have winners and on sports day, everyone who's won and sports day and and lost on sports day and everyone the medal everyone gets the same medal like speedy gonzales like you've got speedy gonzales is there in front and there's is up there in front and there's not timmy wobbling at not fat timmy wobbling at the back. no, all the same. back. but no, it's all the same. all same. it just made me all the same. it just made me laugh. idea mp could come in laugh. the idea mp could come in and absolutely and do an absolutely catastrophic, awful job, get back and still a medal. back to it, and still a medal. but serious questions but there are serious questions that support that about financial support packages do packages for politicians who do lose their jobs because and me
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lose theirjobs because and me out on this one politicians got a good standard wage certainly by modern standards in terms of in life especially in light of the fact that we're doing a lot of talking about people on strikes always. doing a lot strikes always. so doing a lot of people the of talking about people in the pubuc of talking about people in the public sector who are on, let's say, 30, 35 grand, don't about the we'll leave the pensions. we'll leave it out for politicians, 89 for now. politicians, about 89 grand. understand of that. grand. and i understand of that. but for a lot of people who are the best and the brightest in this country the best and the brightest in this countr y £89,000 a year is this country £89,000 a year is not a huge amount of money, certainly not compared to what they be making. if they went in coin the city or coin to end in the city or really set up their business really set up their own business and, what? absolutely flying with could entice with it. so if could to entice them 89 grand to look at wage with expense entice it with expense entice them in it might an idea to make sure that if they do lose that job overnight say in terms of a snap election that they know that there least a bit a there is at least a bit of a cushion, but that might go down like cushion, but that might go down uke cup cushion, but that might go down like cup sack with a like a cup of cold sack with a lot of people at the minute, middle of a cost of living crisis who are struggling pay crisis who are struggling to pay that gb views gb news dot
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that bills. gb views gb news dot uk. give them. that's uk. i want to give them. that's absolutely and absolutely pathetic. and what kind is your in? kind of condition is your in? well, in birmingham well, one road in birmingham might just the worst in britain when it comes fly—tipping burnt out potholes go grey. out cars and potholes go grey. crawford's in solar area crawford's is in the solar area of the city and while has it all, apparently we our west midlands reports to jack coulson to what supposedly on paper at sounds like a war zone once you might be mistaken for thinking this road is the set of a new blockbuster film. but this is crawford street in birmingham plagued by cars left, stripped in the streets, potholes and fly—tipping? this might the most neglected street in country. it's only nought point two miles in length, but drivers using this cut through have to battle the conditions gerry moynihan is a community activist and there's been document ing the condition of the area before reporting his findings to the council . now findings to the council. now since 2008 i've been in contact with the council about trying to get the fly—tipping removed. the
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abandoned cars. the cars are burnt . this is a place where burnt. this is a place where continuously come to dump their rubbish as a local businesses confirm there are frequent fires here now when the fly—tipping up in flames, the local fire service has to come out. that's minimum of service has to come out. that's minimum 0 f £500 per time. service has to come out. that's minimum 0 f £500 per time . it's minimum of £500 per time. it's not just the cost of clearing it, it's the cost of not clearing the fly—tipping because some of the service, such as the fire service, has come out and it's a cost to them the amount of fly—tipping an issue for businesses based on the road to do here. hussain works at salvage yard. they've been flytipping on this road been over seven years. ten years. i've been here for 15 years. but these been going for a long time and the birmingham city are doing nothing at all to help us out . we pay our rates on time. out. we pay our rates on time. but the thing with these side of this road you're talking about every week, we email them, but
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they're not coming to us at all. last year , a man who dumped last year, a man who dumped business waste on the street was ordered to pay more than 1400 pounds after a successful court prosecution birmingham city prosecution by birmingham city council. moynihan council. but gerry moynihan stresses this problem engulfs the inner city. i think unfortunately this is an city area, it's an area of deprivation and i don't think the council are inclined to do anything. as you've seen with the short distance from the just short distance from here. the local youth playground area, its flight , it's been area, its flight, it's been blocked . i think the air area, its flight, it's been blocked. i think the air is area, its flight, it's been blocked . i think the air is just blocked. i think the air is just generally being neglected in response to the issues on crawford street . a birmingham crawford street. a birmingham city council spokesperson said we are working hard to improve the condition of the city's roads and carry out regular inspections . we aim to clear inspections. we aim to clear fly—tipping two working days, but white goods can take up to 14. if we have evidence , we will 14. if we have evidence, we will prosecute . for now, this road , a prosecute. for now, this road, a hotspot for waste and, the local campaign for due and proper clearance continues. jack carson gb news birmingham birmingham .
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gb news birmingham birmingham. just gb news birmingham birmingham. jus t £2 a gb news birmingham birmingham. just £2 a month could help clean the crawford in the area that thatis the crawford in the area that that is obviously britain's worst street is very hard to see we've got if you're listening on radio mattresses there it looks like someone's that fire to a premier inn. we've also got we've also got potholes that you could swim burnt out cars for sake. traffic cones a fridge freezer is got the absolute lot of it. it doesn't say i mean that is. well be honest you the birmingham tourist board not be thanking us for this but. birmingham tourist board not be thanking us for this but . yes it thanking us for this but. yes it is also interesting, i was covering a story last night. we're going to talk about it a bit later on, actually, which is in relation to the council tax. you're now paying now. i would be inclined, of course. certainly not implying that certainly not. not implying that anyone the crawford anyone around the crawford street area in saltney, the street area in saltney, in the west midlands break the law in any have to any way. but you would have to raise questions about raise serious questions about what council tax for what on earth council tax for only that is just only. i mean, that is just remarkable. council tax seems to be much across be going up pretty much across the as well some local
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the board and as well some local councils are actually this councils are actually in this more tha n £1,000,000,000 more than £1,000,000,000 worth of look at of debt. and when you look at streets crawford street and streets like crawford street and potholes, country, potholes, all over the country, it wonder what on it makes you wonder what on earth our money going earth is our money going towards? but yes, there we go. thank very much, john collison, for us a there. from for bringing us a there. from what i think we can all agree is probably britain's streets. if not hate to see i would not i would hate to see i would hate the contenders . but hate to see the contenders. but there . lots of you've been there we go. lots of you've been getting in touch. your thoughts on a lot more serious. on something a lot more serious. a serious. although the a lot more serious. although the residents crawley residents of crawley street might that. but might disagree with that. but president zelenskyy's to president zelenskyy's visit to the have been in the uk have been floating in various different questions on. this copped it this i absolutely copped it on twitter earlier. floated twitter earlier. i just floated very gently question is he very gently the question is he always in military garb? okay, people say, well, country's people say, well, his country's at war. yeah, i get that. but you know zelenskyy is over here. he's basically asking for fighter jets sense. we are fighterjets in a sense. we are supposedly about well, definitely it would appear anyway, out and train fighter anyway, go out and train fighter pilots who can then fly nato accredited fighter jets. so essentially nato would then be
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full frontal involved in the conflict. oh how far you guys are willing to go on? all of this stuff? i think we were absolutely back on in order to stop putin rampaging across the country to help out. i still think that we should definitely, for worth, helping for what it's worth, helping out. not calling end out. and i'm not calling an end to are we just seeing to that. but are we just seeing drip, drip, drip of something that could lead to british troops ground? i had troops on the ground? i had a conservative mp at top conservative mp on at the top of the show certainly wasn't the show who certainly wasn't against being on against british troops being on the was it. and does the ground was it. and what does that mean if played out. that really mean if played out. kathleen think we kathleen says, i don't think we should all the way to out ukraine a putin wins that where he this is the big he stop and this is the big question actually, question isn't it? actually, ukraine freedom ukraine is fighting the freedom fight for us all. so the least we can do is give them whatever they need just a quick another one. the one. janine inviting the ukrainian president to warsaw. a dangerous play, but only dangerous game to play, but only putting at putting our own security at risk. message are we risk. what of message are we sending to russia when? yeah, i'll get what you're saying. right. also flip right. but we could also flip that its couldn't we, that on its head, couldn't we, and sends a strong and say it sends a strong message to russia that we are in of ukraine. but i want to know
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how you guys willing to go, how far you guys willing to go, do you we, would end up do you think we, would end up putting the in putting troops on the ground in ukraine? you're me, patrick ukraine? you're with me, patrick christys gb loads more christys on gb news loads more to the next hour, to come in the next hour, including long coming from including not long coming from downing and lying to the downing street and lying to the commons as talk about commons as well to talk about the counter—terror prevent scheme apart problem scheme as well. apart problem now there, it's now is whether. hi there, it's aidan here from the met aidan mcgivern here from the met office. and weather the office. wet and weather in the far as it spreads far northwest will as it spreads south followed south overnight followed by showers but drier showers in the north but drier conditions south. an conditions towards the south. an active that is active cold front that is bringing heavy rain and gales to the north—west of scotland dunng the north—west of scotland during the afternoon. during the of the afternoon. that spreads into that then spreads it runs into higher and weakens as higher pressure and weakens as it england and it pushes much of england and wales a time some heavy wales but for a time some heavy rain then some snow as rain and then some hill snow as that front crosses scotland into northern ireland, it really weakens by the time gets to northern and wales and northern england and wales and for rest of the uk it's just for the rest of the uk it's just an area of cloud and some patchy drizzle. meanwhile, showers push into and western into northern and western scotland. parts of northern and these falling as these showers will be falling as hail sleet and snow over the hail and sleet and snow over the hills with some icy patches by dawn towards the north of
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scotland. so watch for those first thing, but otherwise a dull and damp starts in the far south, but also a bright start for much of england and wales as the front clears away and sunny skies for much of the afternoon . cloudy for scotland and northern. the blustery showers begin to ease during the afternoon. but we'll see further spots of rain in west of scotland and temperatures across the uk , 8 to 10 celsius into the uk, 8 to 10 celsius into thursday evening and some thicker comes along in the northwest , some thicker comes along in the northwest, some high cloud further south. but actually this will be a frost in the south and any clear spells and with light as well. of course, it will be a chilly. starts to friday in the south with temperatures away for urban centres. i think down below zero. further north cold, but a damp start for western scotland. parts of northern ireland i really it stays damp across western scotland and northern ireland throughout much of friday day. the rain coming and going will be soggy. as for
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the hills north—west scotland , the hills north—west scotland, but elsewhere across the uk it's largely dry. a lot of cloud cover , best of any brightness cover, best of any brightness into the weekend towards the southeast and milder for all of
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us welcome back. you're with me. patrick christys gb news on. coming up, the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has made a historic visit to the uk. he addressed parliament's hailing the strong british character that has been shown in response to the russian invasion. oh yes, and they also have kind words research have some kind words research and pm boris . you go. and former pm boris. you go. united to when it seemed
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absolutely absolute impossible. thank you . that have a go right. thank you. that have a go right. his visit has prompted rishi sunak to ask the defence secretary investigate what jets the could give to ukraine. so there you go. what jets? what fighter we could give to ukraine that would be in addition to the pm's to help train pm's fund to help train ukrainian pilots? i want to know, do you think that we should still be giving support to ukraine and as people in the uk they're struggling they. with the cost of living crisis but actually need is actually do we need to do is have the peace doesn't run riot. what would you to what extent would you go to support ukraine fighter jets troops ground views support ukraine fighter jets tr00jgbnews.uk. )und views support ukraine fighter jets tr00jgbnews.uk. also views support ukraine fighter jets tr00jgbnews.uk. also this’iews support ukraine fighter jets tr00jgbnews.uk. also this hour, and gbnews.uk. also this hour, a into government's into the government's anti—terror has found it is not doing enough to tackle non—violent islamist extremism . non—violent islamist extremism. the government has accepted all 34 recommendations of the long awaited assessment of the prevent programme , which aims to prevent programme, which aims to stop turning terrorism stop people turning to terrorism including recommendation to including a recommendation to treat terrorism as a illness. yeah we will hear from home
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secretary who has just spoken in the house of commons for the. we'll bring you that very, very shortly. as i ask, does this report us soft on terrorism? do you think terror is a mental illness god soon become illness? could god soon become gender neutral ? yeah. no, that gender neutral? yeah. no, that doesn't mean that sam smith has recently changed his name to go to the way he's coming up bishops is to launch project that could scrap pronouns that could scrap male pronouns for well reference to our for god as well reference to our father in favour of gender neutral or . even female neutral or. even female alternatives gets it. so it's gbviews@gbnews.uk world gone mad lizzie after ireland . patrick lizzie after ireland. patrick thank you and good afternoon to you.the thank you and good afternoon to you. the top story on gp news today. prime minister has asked the defence which jets it could potentially give to ukraine. earlier, the ukrainian president met with king charles, the historic address he made to mps at westminster hall. it's his first visit to the country since the start of invasion. president
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used his visit to urge the uk and western to provide wings for freedom by supplying his force with advanced jets . later, the with advanced jets. later, the two leaders will visit ukrainian and british troops stationed in dorset . and in a speech to dorset. and in a speech to parliament mr. zelenskyy thanked the british people for their ongoing and the guides smiled and offered me to down on this armchair from which war orders have been . and he asked me. how have been. and he asked me. how did i feel ? and i said that did i feel? and i said that a subtle layer felt something . but subtle layer felt something. but it is only now that know what the feeling and all ukrainians know it perfectly well to it is the feeling of how bravery takes
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you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally you with victory victory . meanwhile, in prime minister's questions, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, pledged his party's support for nato in standing up to aggressors as the minister agreed with me that whatever differences we may have , no matter what difficulties face as a country , we in this face as a country, we in this house have a duty to stand on the shoulders . giants who came the shoulders. giants who came before us and support ukraine's fight for freedom. liberty and victory . well, in response, victory. well, in response, rishi announced a stepping of aid to ukraine include in plans to train the country's pilots. i join with the honourable gentleman in saying that this house in this country will stand unhed house in this country will stand united with the uk with ukraine until we ensure the of vladimir
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putin's unprovoked unsanctioned aggression and that we will make sure that ukraine is not only victorious but that we bring peace, its people. now, governments , organisations from governments, organisations from around world are offering support to turkey and syria after the devastating earthquakes that have killed more than 11,000 people. three british people are still missing following disaster. a 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit on monday morning with a second quake. a few hours later , the quake. a few hours later, the governments pledged support to turkey's president, who's declared a state of emergency for three months and the ten worst affected cities. president erdogan has been visiting of the areas affected and a 77 strong british search and rescue is assisting in the country . now assisting in the country. now the former labour mp jared o'mara has been found guilty of six counts of fraud from during his time in office. the 41 year old who is a member of parliament between 17 and 2019 was on trial submitting fake
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invoices to worth around was on trial submitting fake invoices to worth aroun d £24,000 invoices to worth around £24,000 to fund his cocaine habit. a jury to fund his cocaine habit. a jury cleared him of two other charges. sentencing will take place tomorrow at leeds crown court . the government's court. the government's anti—terror is not doing enough to non—violent islamist , to non—violent islamist, according to a new report. it also accused programme of double standards when with the extreme right wing and islamist ideology . the home secretary admitted scheme needs major reform and should focus on security rather than political correctness. the government has accepted all 34 recommendation is made by the review . now, as you've been review. now, as you've been heanng review. now, as you've been hearing the church of england could move from the thousands year old tradition of referring to god as inherently male in future. that's after within the church. asked to use gender neutral terms . religious leaders
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neutral terms. religious leaders a new project on gendered language will begin this spring with any changes to be approved by the church's decision making body. the synod royal mail have revealed the first and second class stamps that will feature a portrait of king charles today. the design draws inspiration from stamps that featured the late queen elizabeth. royal mail's director david gold has described it as a defining turning part of the king's reign . the stamps will go on sale from april up to date on gb news. more news as it happens. now back, patrick. okay. welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news now rishi sunak's announced the defence secretary to investigate jets. the uk could give ukraine. that's according to downing . it that's according to downing. it follows an address to mp unloads
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by ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy in which he praised , zelenskyy in which he praised, the uk for military aid provided in the war against russia . he in the war against russia. he also fuelled suggestions that could be giving western military jets. thanking the uk in advance for providing a powerful planes key paid homage to rishi sunak for the aid that he's and his military forces . for the aid that he's and his military forces. he for the aid that he's and his military forces . he also for the aid that he's and his military forces. he also pay particular thanks to former pm bofis particular thanks to former pm boris johnson for support for ukraine. i have come here and stand before you on of the brave on behalf of our who are now in the trenches under enemy artillery fire on behalf of our gun us and every defender of this guy who protects ukraine against aircraft and missiles . against aircraft and missiles. bofis. against aircraft and missiles. boris . you go to others united boris. you go to others united when it sent absolutely absolute
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impossible thank you you . we impossible thank you you. we know russia will lose . and we know russia will lose. and we really know . the weak three the really know. the weak three the weak tory will change the world and this will be a change that world has long needed . thank . world has long needed. thank. thank you very much for these powerful defensive step for assistance . thank you . well it assistance. thank you. well it i'm joined now by our political reporter catherine who was one of those who was in westminster hall for president zelenskyy's speech. and yes, it was a historic moment, wasn't it. really was quite a moment. this is only the second time that vladimir zelenskyy has been out of ukraine since the beginning of ukraine since the beginning
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of the war almost a year ago, of course, went to america not long before christmas , and he spoke before christmas, and he spoke for about half hour. it was incredibly received in the by ps a real feeling of solidary city which began in prime minister's questions, which was uncharacteristic , not about uncharacteristic, not about differences, but about the fact that both sides of the house are unhedin that both sides of the house are united in wanting to support ukraine. i think acting, training really does help him in he's very good at crafting his speech and ultimately getting what he wants from it. now he's come to the uk because of course, we led the world when . course, we led the world when. russia invaded ukraine. we led the world again by being the first to pledge to challenger tanks. and now he's hoping that in coming here in publicly thanking us in the way that he has, in meeting a king, in spending time rishi sunak that we now move towards ukraine what's next, which is fighter
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jets. now, at the moment , what's next, which is fighter jets. now, at the moment, rishi sunak has announced that we are now going to be training fighter pilots to fly the jets . we pilots to fly the jets. we haven't yet said that we give the jets. however, i understand afternoon from the prime minister's spokes that defence secretary ben wallace has been asked to at the possibility of sending jets to ukraine. and bofis sending jets to ukraine. and boris johnson , personally boris johnson, personally thanked by volodymyr zelenskyy key. he of course was there. they have very strong relationship and has been intervening in the last hour or so and saying again send the to ukraine. he says we've got a hundred typhoon fighters and 100 challenger 2 tanks and. he thinks the single best use would be to send them. of course, it's for not boris johnson to decide, it's up to rishi sunak the current prime minister. but very much is determined to uphold the bond and support that the uk
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have given to ukraine. so far. we thank you very much. has been to that all political reporter just westminster. what just behind you there we saw volodymyr zelenskyy a speech to different political dignitaries. now i'm joined by executive director of the henry jackson society , dr. mendoza. thank society, dr. alan mendoza. thank you very, very much . it's great you very, very much. it's great to have you on the show a lot of our viewers are concerned about a potential escalation in our support for ukraine against vladimir putin. so we've had tanks very recently, 40 challenger, two tanks, and now volodymyr zelenskyy thanking us in advance for providing fighter jets. it's not confirmed yet , jets. it's not confirmed yet, but he's pretty confident about it . is this a but he's pretty confident about it. is this a good thing ? well, it. is this a good thing? well, i it is because the thing we should be most concerned about in this whole conflict is vladimir putin winning is he has started war of aggression, a needless war one, where there was no basis for was doing. and if he's allowed to win that war, frankly, none of will be safe
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because he will do it again. others will think they can it again. and the effects of that will be felt by people this country by far the best and simplest path for us to follow now to give ukraine whatever we can even if it fighter planes next in order for them to win the war as quickly as possible push russia out of ukraine and get back to the status ante because that the best way we can guarantee national system i completely get that vladimir putin needs to be and there's no dispute here as far as i'm concerned. i want to make that very, very clear because there are supposed to be people who are supposed to be people who are calling me some kind of putin allow it. i am certainly not, however, i am concerned about dragged into nuclear about being dragged into nuclear world i don't world war three. i don't think we all be concerned about we all should be concerned about that. of big that. and one of the big concerns that smart money concerns is that the smart money is the fact that vladimir is on the fact that vladimir putin probably some putin will probably make some gains in coming months gains in the coming months as the over that. if the weather over that. and if we've already frontal with we've already gone frontal with tanks full frontal with tanks in full frontal with fighter do
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fighter jets, what do we do next? is troops on the ground next? is it troops on the ground and isn't it ? no, it won't and war? isn't it? no, it won't be troops on the ground . there's be troops on the ground. there's no in western to put no appetite in western to put actual troops on ground. our philosophy has been simple ukraine has proven itself capable of defending its territory because of the tremendous will of its people and the sort of courage of its . and the sort of courage of its. what it hasn't had is the equipment to do it and think what we've been trying to is supply the equipment, which has made a major difference in ukraine's ability to , resist ukraine's ability to, resist russia's aggression and you may well be right. they could be in the spring offensive that putin presumably plans some russian . i presumably plans some russian. i think there'll be much bigger chance of ukraine able to chance of ukraine being able to stop those indeed roll them back and push the russians back to their if . we supply the their borders if. we supply the kit what we do know kit to do say what we do know for certain if we don't do for certain is if we don't do that, putin advantage in that, putin has an advantage in this and that is not in this conflict and that is not in our interests. no indeed. how do you the continental you think that the continental european community is behaving? britain european community is behaving? britai n £2.3 billion worth of
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britain £2.3 billion worth of military aid to ukraine in the year just gone more any other yearjust gone more any other nafion yearjust gone more any other nation except the united states , we've guaranteed at least the same level in this coming year. we added tanks and we have now added tanks and probably about odd probably anyway about odd fighter jets too. that's certainly training for them certainly the training for them the not well if we the argument not well if we don't stop putin then he'll through europe. i'm sorry but should european friends, our should our european friends, our allies a bit make allies be doing a bit to make sure don't invaded? why sure they don't get invaded? why we oh, yeah i think we doing it? oh, yeah i think look, you're you're right. highlight britain's contribution here we proud, here. we are a proud, independent nation making our weight after weight falls weight felt after weight falls on the world. but you've gotta remember, this is a traditional british thing do. we british thing to do. what we tended to do for many, many is to intervene . we see an to intervene. we see an aggressive power the aggressive power on the continent trying come continent trying to come forwards to stop that power from gaining much strength. and this is how we should see this what we're doing here is pushing back. right. the back. you're right. they the europeans and should be europeans can and should be doing seen doing more. obviously seen that tanks be arriving , the tanks will be arriving, the germans finally. but a lot of tanks and they'll tanks in that regard and they'll be moving forward that others have supplied a lot of
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equipment. but yeah, are equipment. but yeah, we are leading and in fact what should happenis leading and in fact what should happen is they should take our lead it and supply as lead and follow it and supply as much as they can as well because that best guarantee for that would be best guarantee for european be european security and it'll be much cheaper to do it. much cheaper for them to do it. this way than having to face putin, face to face, eyeball to, eyeball. yeah, i completely absolutely. and we all hope that this stops, frankly, soon as this stops, frankly, as soon as possible . but at what point do possible. but at what point do you think the british taxpayer would have a right to stand up and say, we're all skint now, we can't give anyone a pay rise, apparently, of any kind of magnitude whatsoever in our pubuc magnitude whatsoever in our public services . we're having public services. we're having trouble paying our energy bills , having trouble with the cost of living. general bread has pretty got security tags on pretty much got security tags on in now, when walk in shelves. now, when you walk for in goodness sake, realistically why should we keep giving of money and giving a load of money and resources to ukraine? do you, the british taxpayer, would have an , well, the an argument that, well, the british taxpayer would an argument there if it wasn't for the fact that mr. putin's caused this economic by his
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this economic crisis by his energy diplomacy and what's happened if don't push him back to his borders , he will be able to his borders, he will be able say, any he wants to, use say, any time he wants to, use that energy sort of hand grenade and detonate it against us what this war certainly done is accelerate , move away from accelerate, move away from dependency on russia. that will a longer term stabilised prices enable to us deal with the energy part of the crisis and will enable us to have more supply elsewhere. the solution to say, you know , we need to to say, you know, we need to stop supplying ukraine. the solution is we need to get this done as as possible because that's the best guarantee that we're going to see this country return to prosperity with europe just very, very quickly . and just very, very quickly. and finally on this, is there no set argument to say that volodymyr zelenskyy should be to forgo some land and overtly strike a peace deal instead of going around the world asking for money and weapons. could not be doing more about that. or is that. a moral question on presumably putin would stop anyway, so it would be your view
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. yeah. look, that may well be something that will be emerge after spring but you've to remember we're only a year into this conflict and that year seen russia make huge unworn out gains of ukrainian territory the best chance of suing for peace is if the russians realise they really can't win this war and the best chance of that happening is for us to supply ukraine so that putin can see the game is up he himself the game is up and he himself comes to terms otherwise he won't so. dr. watlington won't do. so. dr. watlington very, very much. really enjoyed that the that dog. solomon does that the executive director of the henry jackson society right now moving on the home secretary has pledged to overhaul the government's scheme after an independent found the organisation was too concerned with treating terrorism as a mental illness rather than a threat so. william shawcross, this review stated that treating terrorism as a mental illness or a social deficiency that be placated by social services might make acts of extreme violence seem intelligible to some, yet this approach fails to
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the inherently ideological of radicalisation and terrorism. so these recommendations also stress that prevention go back to first principles. a reassert its overall objective of stopping people from becoming terrorists or support terrorism well is a massively hot topic that's for a variety of reasons. people are saying the prevent scheme is maybe gone a little bit woke is not that to do that as it may serve to really stop terrorism. some people are saying i disproportionately focuses islamic focuses on radical islamic terror when the far terror at a time when the far right on the shadow right is on the rise. shadow home secretary cooper home secretary yvette cooper said is being. shock. said the review is being. shock. horror. here's the home secretary suella braverman though had to say in the commons a little earlier prevent a little earlier on prevent needs major reform . prevent needs major reform. prevent needs major reform. prevent needs to better understand threats we face and the ideology underpinning them . 80% of underpinning them. 80% of counter—terrorism police networks live investigations are islamist and m15 are clear that islamist and m15 are clear that
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islamist terrorism . our islamist terrorism. our predominant threat. accounting for 75% of their caseload , yet for 75% of their caseload, yet only 16% of prevent referrals in 2020 122. what islamist prevent has shown cultural timidity and an institutional hesitancy to tackle islamism for fear of the of islamophobia . the truth is of islamophobia. the truth is there is nothing about tackling islamism and we must continue to work closely with muslim communities if we are to do so effectively effectively . well, effectively effectively. well, there we go. suella braverman there are home secretary in the commons little earlier on. i'm joined by nicole with former joined now by nicole with former national counter national coordinator a counter terrorism . great stuff. terrorism policing. great stuff. thank you very much coming thank you very much for coming on the show. well, here's concerns and the very thing that we in place to we suppose to put in place to tackle amongst other of tackle amongst other forms of terrorism , radical islamist terrorism, radical islamist terrorism, radical islamist terrorism is not fit for
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purpose. your views ? i think purpose. your views? i think what is very coming through here is there is some change needed. i fundamentally with doug sexually that radical reform or radical is required . i also radical is required. i also think that sir william shawcross is report does have some deficiencies in it. i think it takes a very short here and now view on the whole meaning of the word prevent is to stop stuff happening in the future. so you're absolutely right to highlight that. the majority of investigations currently involve extremist islamist beliefs , but extremist islamist beliefs, but that will change over time. that will change the generational differences . well but can't just differences. well but can't just and you can't just interject because i spoke to an imam last night and i spoke an individual who was one of the advisers for prevent earlier on. i'm both them were absolutely adamant to me that this is anti muslim to its core and that even the
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people who are now writing reports on prevent that's anti—muslim to its core. and is about time that people just stood up to this nonsense and just said and so if you really drill down into it unfortunately the majority of the terror threat that this country is facing at the moment is from radical islamism. and we have even given to some groups as part of the prevent scheme, we've taken that money, we've then taken that money, gone on to say that the taliban might a good might be a good isn't anti—muslim. we're just looking out ourselves . so look one out for ourselves. so look one things we've got to complete , things we've got to complete, the disconnect is islam and islamist extremism . they are islamist extremism. they are fundamentally different things and people you know, we just because of a language it it's offensive but we don't need to be offensive to each other around these things but you know, to be specific around your question, patrick, what can't question, patrick, what we can't do is be shy or hesitant around tackling the threats we face and the fact that 80% of life investigations doing those
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investigations doing those investigations into , radical investigations into, radical islamists, is testament to the fact that we don't shy away from doing that. but the point prevent is getting of it becoming a problem in the instance. and the one thing that itook instance. and the one thing that i took myself from the shawcross report was idea that over 50% of the referrals should probably gone to other mental health services . and what this really services. and what this really demonstrates is a much, much wider problem in social health care and policing whereby the problem society are being scooped up in one big lump and dumped into the lap of the police. yes however, there are i anyway, people hiding behind cloak of fake vulnerability when it comes to crimes just terrorism, but crimes in general. and is it not, nick but centrally quite easy these days to go, oh, look, i'm very that i pledged allegiance to isis , that pledged allegiance to isis, that i'd planned on carrying out some kind of horrific terror attack
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in this country. when i was 16 years old at the time , i've come years old at the time, i've come from a broken home. my mental health was all over the place and. we just go, oh, okay. all right, have a hug . well, it right, have a hug. well, it would appear that we don't go. okay have a hug. i mean, and should be for the best example of that, a more reaction of that, a more extreme reaction . somebody in that very situation described that patrick could be demonstrated. well here's the reality. this is this is not a single or judicial is not a single orjudicial issue. what you've just described. there is strikes at the heart of juvenile versus culpability and, ability to understand right from wrong . and understand right from wrong. and we do have strong precedents in the uk around that. so you're not treated as knowing right from for sure until you're over the age of 14. and so i don't it would be a case that you people who say, well i think it was just a mistake and i was led astray, some really bad people, you know, big boys be do it defence i think that does hold
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true and the numberjuveniles that are being prosecuted is indicative of that but bit that we've got to get right is who should be coming into these because at the moment know 6000 people coming into a program 3000 shouldn't have been there thatis 3000 shouldn't have been there that is an awful lot of money being squandered on an awful lot of people that don't need the support that these programs are intended to deliver. okay, nick thank you very much. i go with that former national coordinator, counter—terrorism policing. interesting insight that is, and says, well, look, you're with me patrick christys on coming up, the on gb news. coming up, the devastating earthquake the devastating earthquake on the border turkey syria has border of turkey and syria has now killed more than 11,000 people as bad weather hinders , people as bad weather hinders, the rescue effort. we will cross to organiser looking to make to an organiser looking to make a difference. i'm markle. faces a difference. i'm markle. faces a legal showdown with her sister. you hate as they know you and may have to in court to face allegations that told lies about her rags to riches. oh, no, it couldn't be. could not be lies. could be back in .
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a okay. back. now the death toll of the 7.8 magnitude earthquake has reached more than 11,000. now across turkey and syria. the cold weather and destroyed infrastructure such as damaged railway tracks are currently hindering search and rescue attempts . and for syria, this is attempts. and for syria, this is being referred to as a crisis within crisis there's almost 300 people have been displaced . people have been displaced. hundred thousand, that i should say. the prime minister rishi sunak has said that the government is in touch with the turkish on syrian authorities and that the uk is providing all of the assistance which is being required of us. let's get more on from on the assistance coming from the gb news reporter the uk, from gb news reporter ray, , thank you very much. ray, thank, thank you very much. so where are you . what's going so where are you. what's going on? what does it look like? hey
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there, patrick. yes, i mean, an underin there, patrick. yes, i mean, an under in anfield here at the british levy federation and it's here that turkish community is coming together to collect and send a central aid to turkey . send a central aid to turkey. the people who need it most because you mentioned that death toll of more than 11,000 is fears here among the community they're telling me they feel it could be four or five times as high as that number you might be able to see behind me here, the human chain they're putting together all those boxes, those supply eyes, and putting them into the very first van, which will be sending those supplies to turkey. now, safety is a of the community here. she joins me now, stephanie , what's your now, stephanie, what's your experience? how's family been impacted by disaster. so my mum's cousin lives in qatar on my rush she's trapped in her garage right now had to escape her home. she's there with her
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children . she tries to go into children. she tries to go into house to get food from time to time. and then she back into her garage . they're trapped there. garage. they're trapped there. there's no support going to do anything for them. they're the weather condition is really bad . there's a storm it's snowing. it's freezing . she's messages of it's freezing. she's messages of some times and she says that her animals are about to die because of the condition and she can't do anything to. i also have a 12 year old relative . she's stuck year old relative. she's stuck under the rubble . we don't we're under the rubble. we don't we're not even sure if it's her not we're assuming that it's her. it's the same building and. yeah, we're just waiting for news. they can hear calling from the rubble . they can hear some the rubble. they can hear some a girl calling the rubble. yeah. and we're not sure if it's her but yeah . now in terms of the but yeah. now in terms of the that you're providing here at the federation, you've been people for donations. what kind of supplies do you need? and
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where are you sending it? we're sending it to all the cities that have been affected by the there's two main cities that still need support . it's still need support. it's cardamom and winston and haiti. we're in contact people there. and they're saying that there's no support at all. they need people to go and help . and most people to go and help. and most areas, i think teams around the world gone to support, but there's still some areas that that need the people are trying to save from under the rubble with their bare hands. now stephanie, thank you very much for joining us. just some of the things that i know you've been asking local members to provide baby hot water flasks as well. hygiene products , flashlights, hygiene products, flashlights, batteries, power banks , heat batteries, power banks, heat packs and of course patrick, those all important, vital sleeping bags as well . yes. and sleeping bags as well. yes. and a ray, thank you very . that's, a ray, thank you very. that's, of course. right alison. that gb
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news is from the scene . it were news is from the scene. it were all part of the relief effort . all part of the relief effort. we're trying to get all the equipment necessary things that we can get over to that part of the world. right. thank you very much. you're with me. patrick christys on gb news. meghan markle faces a legal showdown. her may have to appear her sister i may have to appear in to face allegations in court to face allegations that she about her rags to that she told about her rags to fiches that she told about her rags to riches oh, my days. i riches story. oh, my days. i can't wait. first, as you can't wait. but first, as you latest headlines . patrick, thank latest headlines. patrick, thank you.the latest headlines. patrick, thank you. the top stories this hour , you. the top stories this hour, prime minister has asked the defence which uk military could potentially be donated in support of ukraine. earlier today, king charles met with ukraine's president zelenskyy buckingham palace, following historic address to employees at westminster hall. historic address to employees at westminster hall . its president westminster hall. its president zelenskyy first visit to the country since start of russia's invasion. a year , and he's using invasion. a year, and he's using his visit to urge the uk and western allies to provide what
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he's called wings for freedom by supplying his air force with advanced air power. later the two leaders will visit ukrainian and british troops stationed in dorset . in and british troops stationed in dorset. in his and british troops stationed in dorset . in his speech to dorset. in his speech to parliament, zelenskyy thanked the british for their ongoing support . the gods smiled , support. the gods smiled, offered me to sit . down on this offered me to sit. down on this armchair , from which warders armchair, from which warders have been given . and he asked me have been given. and he asked me , how did i feel ? and i that i , how did i feel? and i that i certainly felt something wrong . certainly felt something wrong. but it is only now that i know what the feeling was . and all what the feeling was. and all ukraine know it perfectly . to it ukraine know it perfectly. to it is the feeling of how takes you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally reward you
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with victory . well governments with victory. well governments and organisations around the world are offering support to turkey in syria after devastating earthquakes killed , devastating earthquakes killed, more than 11,000 people. three british people are still missing the disaster. a 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit on monday. the disaster. a 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit on monday . a earthquake hit on monday. a second quake followed just a few later. the government's pledged to turkey's president erdogan has declared a state of emergency three months in the ten worst affected cities . and ten worst affected cities. and president erdogan has been out visiting one of the areas affected today meetings and emergency crews who are working all hours in suburbs temperatures. a british and rescue team is also still helping to locate those still alive . the rubble . the home alive. the rubble. the home secretary says the government's prevention program needs a major reform. after a review found. the program's not doing enough to tackle non—violent islamist extremism. so braverman says the
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government needs to better the threats and ideology underpinning them. the home office has accepted all 34 recommends options . the former recommends options. the former labour mp o'mara has been found guilty . six counts of fraud from guilty. six counts of fraud from his time in office. the 41 year old, who was a member of parliament between 2017 and 2019, was on trial for submitting fake invoices to parliament worth around submitting fake invoices to parliament worth aroun d £24,000 parliament worth around £24,000 to fund his cocaine habit. a jury to fund his cocaine habit. a jury cleared him of two other charges. sentencing will take place at leeds crown court tomorrow . those are the tomorrow. those are the headlines. you're up to date on tv, online and dab plus radio. i'm back in half an hour. see them them . them them. right okay. so meghan markle has suffered a major blow to avoid giving evidence. a court case
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brought against her by her half sister, samantha , the eldest sister, samantha, the eldest daughter of thomas markle , daughter of thomas markle, seeking $75,000 in damages. that's around seeking $75,000 in damages. that's aroun d £57,000, that's around £57,000, apparently over claims made by the duke and duchess of sussex. in their interview with oprah winfrey 2021, meghan has been winfrey in 2021, meghan has been accused of telling false and malicious lies regarding . a rags malicious lies regarding. a rags to royalty story , which she is to royalty story, which she is alleged subjected to humiliation, shame and hate carried on a worldwide scale . carried on a worldwide scale. joining me now is the royal commentator, andrei michael co. michael paul, meghan , she's michael paul, meghan, she's going to have to now try to back up some of the things she says and your heart bleeds, i imagine . patrick this is a classic case of the biter bit because in the past meghan has been highly litigious suing . and now she litigious suing. and now she finds a member of her own family suing her for as say for $75,000
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about suing her for as say for $75,000 abou t £62,000 and demanding . the about £62,000 and demanding. the answers to 38 questions which samantha there on the left of the screen very she has a again wants to put to her half sister by quite a few years younger her meghan and she to do that in court by means of a deposition where questions are asked and the answers written down ahead of a court . the answers written down ahead of a court. meghan, for her part , wants the case to be dismissed . i think it's worth saying that the to being bit i mean meghan has not been slow in making and wounding allegations actions against her husband's family but of her own family she's only on speak terms with her mother doria , one niece, the others are doria, one niece, the others are not on speaking terms with her which maybe tells you or maybe doesn't you something about the
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dynamic within the markle family . yes, indeed i do i do find that i . yes, indeed i do i do find thati do . yes, indeed i do i do find that i do find that interesting. and you know. okay, i mean all families have feuds. there's no doubt about that. but the reality is only couple of them reality is only a couple of them actually .
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talking some people would think that thatis some people would think that that is a massive massive escalation on. top of the challenge, it sounds on top of the rocket systems not meant to be used on this, but i know for a fact a lot of people certainly do not want putin to just run rampage across europe indeed rampage across europe and indeed across ukraine. look, we're going to go to a quick break. we're going to go to the weather. and when we come back. well, much well, hopefully things are much better .
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air hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office wet and windy weather in the far northwest will ease as it spreads south, followed by showers in the north. but drier conditions towards south. it's
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an active cold front that is bringing some heavy rain and gales to the north—west of scotland during the rest of the afternoon. that spreads south. it runs into higher and weakens as pushes into much of england and. wales but for a time some heavy rain and, then some hill snow as that front crosses scotland into northern. it really weakens , by the time it really weakens, by the time it gets to northern england and wales for the rest of the uk , wales for the rest of the uk, it's just an area of cloud and some patchy. meanwhile, showers push into northern and western scotland. parts of northern ireland these showers will ireland and these showers will be as hail sleet and be falling as hail and sleet and snow over the hills with some icy patches by dawn towards the north scotland. so watch out for those first thing, but otherwise a dull and damp starts the far south, but also a bright start for much of england and wales as front clears away and sunny skies return for much of the afternoon . cloudy for scotland afternoon. cloudy for scotland and northern, the blustery showers begin ease during the afternoon, but see further spots
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of rain in the west of scotland and temperatures across uk 8 to 10 celsius into thursday evening and some thicker cloud along in the north—west some high cloud further south, but actually they'll still be a frost in the south and any spells and with light winds , well, of course, it light winds, well, of course, it will be a chilly starts to friday in south with temperatures away for urban centres. i think down zero further north cold, but a damp for western scotland. parts of northern i really it stays damp across western scotland and northern ireland throughout much of friday the rain coming and going it will soggy. as for the hills of north—west scotland but elsewhere across the uk it's largely dry. a lot of cloud cover the best of any into the weekend towards the southeast and milder fall of us us this year on gb news. we've got brand new members of the family join us across the entire united kingdom . we cover the issues kingdom. we cover the issues that matter to you. gb news
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always stay honest , balanced and always stay honest, balanced and fair. we want to hear whatever is on your mind and we don't talk down to you the establishment. had their chance . now we're here to represent you britons watching come join us on tv news. the people's britain's news . britain's news. channel right. welcome back, everybody patrick christys here on gb news. now protests are taking place against church of england's offer of prayers of blessings for same sex couples, calling them an insult and sufficient. so the signs are often thought of as the church is parliament preparing for historic votes on the matter this week and attention turning to god's agenda and this think is a particularly juicy bad priest. i'm considering stopping using gendered such as hate and him a new project looking into the of more inclusive language. we'll begin in the spring with any challenges or indeed changes
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marking a departure from the traditional jewish and christian teachings dating back millennia . joining me now and hopefully time i will be able to either see hear them and to discuss this is the head of public policy christine jensen. tim do this already looks better and martino as it was the vicar martino bold as it was the vicar of st michael's chiswick and also the chair of the national campaign group gender campaign group for gender equality, england equality, the church of england women and the church. right. this is i think. off to a this is what i think. off to a flying hour. sorry about this. i could see or hear you earlier on. so apologies about that. i had idea who was to. had no idea who i was to. talking tim, i will start with you. still, this time to date is head public policy and head of public policy and christian man or a christian concern has a man or a woman. jesus was a man. woman. well jesus was a man. wasn't st patrick's. jesus was born man, lived. a man does born as a man, lived. a man does demand rise . the a man demand a rise. the dead as a man as so clearly he was a man as well so clearly he was a man and his father. father and called his father. father didn't and he we should didn't and he said we should pray our father and as a trinity, father , son, i'm trinity, father, son, i'm alright . i'm trinity, father, son, i'm alright. i'm going to have to just cut in it because. i don't
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really think we can hear him, unfortunately. i'm very, very sorry about this is watching. and indeed our guest there. can i you for avoidance i just try you for the avoidance of being a time to wash out can you me can you hear me now? you give me can you hear me now? i am afraid. all right. you give me can you hear me now? i am afraid. all right . those i am afraid. all right. those gentlemen, i'm very sorry about this . i'm gentlemen, i'm very sorry about this. i'm afraid we're going to have to just move on from that entirely. it was a valiant effort, but very, very sorry. look, i'll topics of discussion today as well is today on that one as well is whether not you've got is whether or not you've got is indeed man or a jim has been indeed a man or a jim has been on for god's sake says who in their right mind thinks that way or or our universe or our world or our universe never beginning. was created never beginning. it was created by a woman, anything in by a man or a woman, anything in between, matter. jim between, for that matter. jim they're frontal they're going full frontal atheist when it comes to all of that stuff. lots of it. you've been touch that been getting in touch on that idea church is indeed idea that the church is indeed going work and people are saying, need to meddle saying, why do we need to meddle in stuff now? what would it do to prayer, for to the lord's prayer, for example, but also the one that we've leading with we've been leading with throughout course the day throughout the course the day and hoping as well and we are hoping as well shortly from, shortly anyway might hear from, as in a couple of them, as you see in a couple of them, zelenskyy may be just
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zelenskyy themselves may be just maybe next minutes maybe in the next few minutes rumours, of, some kind rumours, rumblings of, some kind of we'll have of press conference. we'll have to see about. i have to wait and see about. i have been or not you been asking whether or not you think should go even further think we should go even further our support for ukraine and it's mixed to say least. we are mixed bag to say least. we are supposedly about to definitely try find to fight nato's try and find to fight nato's thunder jets . try and find to fight nato's thunderjets . my try and find to fight nato's thunder jets . my concern would thunder jets. my concern would be that does that mean that nato is 100% at war is absolutely 100% now at war with russia? what would that mean, dear ? i believe that we mean, dear? i believe that we only around 100 raaf only have around 100 raaf typhoons, nurses from nec and he is saying that actually realistically be enough is enough. but i know a lot of you are very strong feelings this are very strong feelings on this and we more and do and that we do even more and do whatever we can to stop putin running roughshod the ukraine and and i'm very and indeed europe. and i'm very to that why it's such a to that view is why it's such a good point because there good talking point because there are distinct sides are two very very distinct sides on gbviews@gbnews.uk keep on a gbviews@gbnews.uk keep your views we back ? views coming in are we back? wow. frankly, not too, actually. but thank you very much, everybody has been bearing with us zelenskyy the us here zelenskyy visit the uk. we're talking whether or we're talking about whether or not is going to not the church is going to prevent this game apparently is too soft on terrorists make sure
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you stay and keep your you stay tuned and keep your views and gbviews@gbnews.uk i'm all in just a couple all yours in just a couple minutes .
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back, everybody, you're with me. patrick christys gb news. and coming up, we'll be crossing live to dorset where president zelenskyy is meeting members of the british military . boris zelenskyy is meeting members of the british military. boris. zelenskyy is meeting members of the british military. boris . you the british military. boris. you go out united to win. it's simply absolutely , absolutely simply absolutely, absolutely impossible . thank you . yes. impossible. thank you. yes. well, and it has started a visit to the uk. ukrainian president has addressed parliament hailing the strong british character that they've been shown in response invasion. he response to russian invasion. he also very words for also had some very words for a
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former prime minister boris johnson as well. remember him ? johnson as well. remember him? in this hour? we're expecting to cross off to dorset. yes, i've already told you about that weather. we'll be talking whether or not we're going to be ending fighter to ending up sending fighter to ukraine. it's stands anyway we'll send people we'll just send to the people who able to the who might be able to teach the other how fly them. other people how to fly them. but to know, do you think but i want to know, do you think we should still be giving support to ukraine? suspect we should still be giving supp(peoplekraine? suspect we should still be giving supp( people kraine yes. uspect we should still be giving supp( people kraine yes. but ct we should still be giving supp(people kraine yes. but how most people think yes. but how much now? how much are we poking the russian should we care the russian bear? should we care about we just about that? should we just plough views and plough on a range of views and they coming in thick and they are coming in thick and fast gb gb news. .uk. fast gb views. gb news. .uk. also a review the also hour a review into the government's anti strategy has found doing to found it's not doing enough to tackle violent islamist tackle non violent islamist extremism. the government accepted all 34 recommendations of the long awaited of the prevent programme, which aims to stop people turning to terrorism. that includes the recommendation to treat terrorism as a mental illness so too ones for you over the course of this hour. and gentlemen, do you think we continue to support ukraine militarily to the extent
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that are would you put troops on the ground is basically i really want to know would you go that far? and do you think terrorism should be treated as mental should be treated as a mental illness? our gb news illness? gb views our gb news uk. right now, ladies and uk. but right now, ladies and gentlemen, i'm going throw you over latest headlines over to your latest headlines headunes. over to your latest headlines headlines . patrick, thank you headlines. patrick, thank you and good evening to the top story on gb news today prime minister has asked the defence secretary which uk military jets could be donated in of ukraine. earlier today, king charles welcomed president zelenskyy to buckingham palace following the ukrainian leader's historic address to mps at westminster hall, it's president zelenskyy his first visit to the country since start of russia's invasion a year and he's using his visit to urge the uk and western allies to provide what he called wings for freedom by supplying air force with advanced air. the two leaders have now arrived in dorset. they're due to meet ukrainian troops being trained
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by the army. earlier on today, in a speech to parliament president thanked the british people for their ongoing support . the guides smiled and me to sit . down on this . the guides smiled and me to sit. down on this armchair , sit. down on this armchair, which were orders have been given . and he asked me , how did given. and he asked me, how did i feel ? and i said that i feel? and i said that i certainly felt something . but it certainly felt something. but it is only now that i know what the feeling and all ukrainians know it perfectly well to it is a feeling of how bravery takes you through the most unimaginable hardship to finally reward you with victory and just a little bit more detail for you on that surprise visit to plain to
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troops there at lulworth camp. we understand , as we said, the we understand, as we said, the prime minister and, president zelenskyy, have landed in their helicopter lulworth camp . helicopter lulworth camp. they're going to be meeting ukrainian troops , being trained ukrainian troops, being trained by the british army will bring in more that as we get it. in in more on that as we get it. in the meantime, prime questions today, the labour leader keir starmer pledged his party's support for nato in standing up to aggressors . is the prime to aggressors. is the prime minister agree with me that whatever differences may have no , matter what difficulties we face a country we this house have a duty to stand on the shoulders of giants who came before us and support fight for freedom liberty and victory victory . well, in response victory. well, in response rishi, sunak earlier announced a stepping up of aid to ukraine as well, including plans to train the country's pilots and join the country's pilots and join the honourable gentleman in saying that this house in this
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country will stand united with the uk , with ukraine until we the uk, with ukraine until we ensure the defeat of vladimir putin's unprovoked , unsanctioned putin's unprovoked, unsanctioned aggression and that we will make sure that ukraine is not only victorious but that we bring peace to its people . meanwhile peace to its people. meanwhile and organisations around the world are offering support to turkey and syria after two devastating earthquakes . more devastating earthquakes. more than 11,000 people. the foreign says three british people are still missing following the disaster and the government has pledged support to turkey's president erdogan, who's declared state of emergency for three months in the ten worst affected cities . he's been affected cities. he's been meeting survivors and emergency crews that are working to save lives in suburbs , zero lives in suburbs, zero temperatures and a british with four search and rescue dogs have appeared on the scene from yesterday help locate quake survivors using their specialist search rescue equipment . now search rescue equipment. now international investigators say there are strong indications that the russian president,
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vladimir putin supplied the missile which downed a malaysia airline flight in 2014, 298 people lost their lives in that disaster. and it happened over ukrainian territory . ukrainian territory. investigators, though, are also there isn't enough evidence to lead to a criminal conviction . lead to a criminal conviction. so they've ended their probe without further prosecutions. russia has denied any wrongdoing wrongdoing here. the former labour mp gerardo mora has been found guilty of six counts of fraud from during his time in office . the 41 year old, who was office. the 41 year old, who was an mp between 2017 and 2019, was on trial submitting fake invoices . parliament worth invoices. parliament worth aroun d £24,000 to fund his around £24,000 to fund his cocaine habit. a jury cleared of two other charges. sentencing will take place tomorrow at. leeds crown court . the leeds crown court. the anti—terror programme is doing enough to tackle non—white and islamist extremism, according to
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a new report. it's accused the programme of double standard when dealing with the extreme right wing and islamist ideology . the home secretary admitted the needs major reform and will now focus on security rather than political correctness . the than political correctness. the government has accepted all 34 recommendations made by the review . the of england could review. the of england could potentially move away from the thousand year tradition of referring to god as inherently male in future. that's after priests within the church asked to use neutral terms instead , to use neutral terms instead, religious leaders say a new project on gendered language will begin this spring with any to be approved by the churches decision making body. the synod . you up to date on gb news news? i'm back in half an hour. see .
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see. alright, people . any moment now alright, people. any moment now we will be going live to dorset where ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy will be speaking. been to the uk today. earlier he gave a major speech to employees the lords. he's also met king charles zelenskyy, also met king charles zelenskyy, also fuelled suggestions that ukraine could be given western military jets thanking the uk in advance for providing powerful plays. i'm joined now by the press corps reporter catherine forster, who was one of those who was actually in westminster for zelenskyy's speech . ec3 for zelenskyy's speech. ec3 thank you very much . it seemed a thank you very much. it seemed a little bit off because we haven't committed that. yeah. you don't think zelenskyy was on a us into him a bounce us into giving him jets, do you ? well, certainly. jets, do you? well, certainly. i think he has come to the. this is only his second visit to a outside of ukraine since since the invasion . he went to the the invasion. he went to the states late year but he's come he because he wants something from us and we have led the west
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since the invasion in response and set an example so obviously he's very grateful he achieved the seemingly impossible uniting all sides of westminster in support of him but he wants the planes he's the tanks that was the last issue on which he was pushing and pushing and pushing. and that has been agreed. and now he's come to say thank you very much . they are deeply, very much. they are deeply, deeply grateful and to stress the bond that we have , ukraine. the bond that we have, ukraine. but also, of course because he's hoping that in coming here meeting which he soon at going to downing street speaking to parliament having tea with the king going and speaking to troops that he can give us a little to get fighter from us. now rishi sunak has announced today that are going to train ukrainian fighter pilots that's going to start as soon as they're saying hopefully by the spnng they're saying hopefully by the spring be able to come to start
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to train them to use these planes. but the government has made no commitment to sending actual jets the moment. and of course, that's stressing you've got to train the people to use them first is no good sending planes so people can use them. the prime spokesman has said , the prime spokesman has said, though, that some rishi sunak asked ben wallace, the defence secretary to look at what jets could potentially be sent. so a decision hasn't been taken but you can see the direction travel here. boris johnson has been intervening again saying that we should be sending the planes. he said we've got 200 typhoon jets that we've got 100 challenger two tanks that he can see better use for them than sending them to ukraine. but of course, it's not his call because he's not current only the prime minister, he and volodymyr zelenskyy, though clearly a very strong bond. and this is boris johnson's legacy that he's really looking to protect and. so far, it does seem that rishi sunak's is 100% on board with giving ukraine the support that
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they say they need. but the jets. well, let's wait and see. yes, indeed. look we thank you very much. very, very well summarised that catherine forster who is a political forster that who is a political reporter been in reporter who's been in westminster was there westminster now. she was there to actually see first hand up close personal volodymyr close and personal volodymyr zelenskyy he's zelenskyy speech. he's an incredibly inspiring guys into zelenskyy. no doubt zelenskyy. there's no doubt about . and again, about that. and again, it's fascinating because . there are fascinating because. there are such views either side such strong views on either side of it means, frankly, of this. and it means, frankly, that obviously very good that it's obviously a very good question . how far are you question to ask. how far are you willing to go when it comes to supporting ukraine militarily? there people who completely, there are people who completely, 100% and i understand this view, we think we should give them whatever they need, even up to and putting british and including putting british troops physically troops actually physically on the guns , their the ground with guns, their hands, putin is he's hands, because putin is he's lost the plot is going to newcastle all to death. and if we stop him then we don't stop him now, then never at all. there are never stop him at all. there are people who think absolutely. there are also people who think, well, on well, actually, hang on a minute, have sent 2.3 billion minute, we have sent 2.3 billion quid going send quid already. we're going send another quid this another 2.3 billion quid this yeah another 2.3 billion quid this year. to year. we are about to if zelenskyy right , give year. we are about to if
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zelenskyy right, give him zelenskyy is right, give him actual fighter jets. we're certainly people fly nato's certainly people to fly nato's standard fighter jets and already given tanks. is this kind of escalation, where will they send for us? and they are concerned that this might frankly bankrupt the country and just up with all appeasing just end up with all appeasing get incredibly angry and ensures nuclear war anyway the i suspect is possibly somewhere in middle there are also people and i think there's some merit in this argument, by the way, which is it's great we're a lot of it's great that we're a lot of stuff to ukraine and potentially we continue to do we could even continue to do that. yes, maybe should even that. yes, maybe we should even give jets as well. give them fighter jets as well. but and but what our european and supposedly allies , the continent supposedly allies, the continent doing to was are they doing compared to was are they doing compared to was are they doing enough? there a bit slow off the mark and i can't help but remind myself when putin initially rolled tanks in and the european union especially seemed quite content to allow putin to have ukraine and then deal with the humanitarian crisis after it, i.e. throwing their arms around every single ukrainian refugee who'd managed to make it out alive that , i to make it out alive that, i think we were right to say, is
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certainly good enough at how far all willing to go. and all you willing to go. and that's i'm asking you gb that's what i'm asking you gb views at gbnews.uk i'm joined views is at gbnews.uk i'm joined by army colonel by former british army colonel hamish hamish, you hamish gordon. hamish, thank you so do you think we will give them actual fighter jets and is them actual fighterjets and is a good thing ? good afternoon, a good thing? good afternoon, patrick. well, i think, first of all, we should give them absolutely everything can to ensure that they . you talk about ensure that they. you talk about british boots on the ground and all the rest of it. absolutely. we want to avoid that all costs. but we mustn't take anything off the table when it comes to jets. yeah, i think it makes absolute sense to give them jets and give them british jets if necessary . them british jets if necessary. now the royal air force has more fighter jets and now the royal air force has more fighterjets and it has now the royal air force has more fighter jets and it has pilots. ukraine air force has more pilots and it has fighter jets. now it will, i know, on a tanker expert, i can tell you all about tanks, not an expert in flying fighter jets. and tanks, not an expert in flying fighterjets. and i accept it'll
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fighter jets. and i accept it'll take at least 12 months to convert those ukrainian pilots onto nato jets, but they are a key part what we call air power a key part of the all arms battle we've given them sometimes. i agree with boris, we should give them everything got because quite frankly british fighter jets and tanks stuck in in the uk are not going to defeat putin and we can enable the ukrainians to do that all the better . so yeah enable the ukrainians to do that all the better. so yeah i think we need to make the decision now to give them fighter jets which seem to have been done because don't want a delay as we did with tanks had we given them tanks 6 to 9 months ago, we might not be in this position now of ukraine fighting for its survival . however, now of ukraine fighting for its survival. however, i'm now of ukraine fighting for its survival . however, i'm slightly survival. however, i'm slightly concerned about the direction of travel. look, we all want this thing over with. the best possible result goes saying but the smart is on vladimir putin and his forces might make some gains as the weather thaws a
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little bit in ukraine and they'll be some kind of back forth. well, if we've got tanks at the minute and if we've gone jets at the moment, it isn't a massive leap to think that they are rolling wicked a are rolling the wicked for a full scale conflict militarily. man with russia. i think man to man with russia. i think people back here are rightly quite concerned . that is what's quite concerned. that is what's on the table here . well, it on the table here. well, it a full scale conflict at the moment between ukraine and russia some of the most deadly and ferocious fighting we've seen since probably the first world war with of people dying . world war with of people dying. the great thing about offering jabsis the great thing about offering jabs is it makes a real commitment to ukraine for the long haul. russia is thousands, tens of thousands hundreds of thousand soldiers into the battle to try elongate the battle to try elongate the battle because russia doesn't care about casualties , care about casualties, collateral damage and at the moment they are just fighting
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like the first world war, throwing soldiers into the battle, hoping that ukraine will run out of ammunition . and run out of ammunition. and that's what their bloggers are saying . so it with the west at saying. so it with the west at the moment and western technology which is making a difference in ukraine the western tanks will give a significant advantage hopefully the first ones will become operation snow at the end of march and am only a few miles away from dorset from where they people are being trained and zelenskyy our own prime minister, are at the moment i've heard them firing and i can also heard them firing and i can also hear the training on plain. so it is key we get them this modern western that will give them the advantage so that the ukrainians can defeat russia in ukraine rather than allowing this war to spill into europe where all of us will get involved . so really it is involved. so really it is escalating to de—escalate and the more we can give the ukrainians a betterjust just ukrainians a better just just just quickly and finally on this you said i suppose this does
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centre around whether or not you think that putin would stop if he took ukraine whether or not you think any kind of peace deal would be worth the paper it's written . it sounds to me as written. it sounds to me as though you think that in reality putin would not stop at ukraine. therefore we need to stop him now . yes, absolutely why would now. yes, absolutely why would he have, you know, 150,000 dead, you know, in ukraine and basically off most of his conventional and then and then stop, you know, he is to the grace of russia. he sees as a modern piece of the great who bafic modern piece of the great who basic he took most of europe for greater russia. so is no way it appear certainly you know better on history than me would suggest he wouldn't stop at ukraine we must because of the next stage from ukraine is into a nato country and of course that would get us all involved under the
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article 5 agreement where attack one is an attack on all, so let's make them prevail the ukrainians series gives the fighters, if they need it, give them tanks and give them all the we can. everybody seen today zelenskyy an extraordinary leader leading an extraordinary country. and i think we can learn a lot from his resolve, their resolve. hamish, thank you very much, much appreciate it. hamish robertson, gordon is a former british army colonel and. look, this epitomises exactly where can see really that most of you viewers and listeners all around this is, the inbox gbviews@gbnews.uk john says, i personally think this could drag us by giving ukraine us into a war by giving ukraine what them and he's what we're giving them and he's not in of it but then literally the email below pavel and he says 100% give them absolutely everything that they need. so there go a very much a split there you go a very much a split issue when it comes to ukraine. support moving on from that now, the home secretary pledged to overhaul the government's prevent after an independent review found the organisation
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was too concerned . treating was too concerned. treating terrorism as a mental illness rather than a threat. william shawcross this review stated that treating terrorism as a mental illness , a social mental illness, a social deficiency that can be placated by social services , might make by social services, might make acts of extreme violence seem more intelligible to some. yet ultimately, this approach fails to grasp the inherently ideological nature of radicalisation and terrorism is recommended and also stressed that prevent should back to first principles i.e. what it was designed to do and reassert its overall objective of stopping people from becoming or supporting terrorism. shadow home secretary yvette cooper said that the review would be mishandled a lot of people are saying is some kind of wider anti sentiment all of this which of course vehemently denied . of course vehemently denied. here is for a bit of context before we get stuck into a debate on this. here's what secretary suella braverman had to say in the commons a little earlier prevent needs major. prevent needs to better understand the threats face and
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the ideology underpinning them . the ideology underpinning them. 80% of counter—terror terrorism police live investigations . police live investigations. islamist and m15 are clear that islamist and m15 are clear that islamist terrorism remains our predominant. islamist terrorism remains our predominant . accounting for 75% predominant. accounting for 75% of their caseload . yet only 16% of their caseload. yet only 16% of their caseload. yet only 16% of prevent referrals in 2020 122. what . prevent has shown 122. what. prevent has shown cultural timidity and an institute hesitancy to islamism for of the charge of islamophobia? the truth there is nothing anti—muslim about tackling islamist harm, and we must continue to work closely with muslim if we are to so effectively . yeah, but get a effectively. yeah, but get a load of this. people on the front of this report and prevent it actually being released. on being released pretty much in full. is after quite a long
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battle because they didn't want to necessarily do that because they here we go they didn't want to. here we go again . stoke racial tensions in again. stoke racial tensions in itself. can't be anti—muslim because they were keen to not cause any offence to anybody, although people be shocked to learn or they're probably not shocked this day and age. shocked in this day and age. actually quite actually to learn that quite a lot prevent scheme money lot of prevent scheme money given to a group that when taliban took control of afghanistan that afghanistan they thought that might good . that's where might be a good. so that's where some going lives some of your money's going lives in. anyway, joining me now is dr. policy dr. akiba sun, social policy analyst and joe hemmings, a behavioural psychologist . thank behavioural psychologist. thank you much, both of a you very much, both of you. a very topic. going to focus very topic. i'm going to focus on particular element of this and joe, i will start with you in your capacity as a behavioural psychologist is being radical terrorist a. mental no terrorism . is not mental no terrorism. is not a mental illness . what people are mental illness. what people are more susceptible to being in fluence was manipulated into extremist ideal energies or ways of thinking that does not give
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them a mental disorder. the only mental disorders really that you would find any evidence i would be in single issue lone attack . be in single issue lone attack. so those people who take it upon themselves , not on a group by themselves, not on a group by themselves, not on a group by themselves , to go out and do themselves, to go out and do something hugely destructive . something hugely destructive. they would probably considered to have some sort of mental disorder. but terrorism itself, in a group situation , some in a group situation, some people vulnerable that they're more likely to be influenced by people who can coerce them for whatever reasons they have. they are just susceptible to that kind of influence. but it's a mental illness. okay well, dr. kyiv, i'll bring you in now. you are social policy analyst now. i spoke to an imam , a show i was spoke to an imam, a show i was covering last night. he said all is provided is against all muslims. i also spoke to an individual earlier on in show. it was supposedly an adviser prevent and he said that the whole thing is grounded in islamophobia. do you believe
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that the counter—terror scheme that the counter—terror scheme that we've got is racist against muslims ? well i've heard these muslims? well i've heard these narratives many times before that prevent is alien . the that prevent is alien. the entire british community. but was a report published back in 2020 by this advisory which showed that the majority of british muslim respondents surveyed had not even heard of prevent . so surveyed had not even heard of prevent. so i'm very surveyed had not even heard of prevent . so i'm very confused prevent. so i'm very confused how you can be alienated by a program that you've never heard of. i think what we have in britain generally , we have a britain generally, we have a wider narrative setting which offers the view that our country extremism structures are anti—muslim. when actually see evidence of referrals example to prevent the ideological composition of referrals doesn't match the wider terror picture. islamist is the principal terror threat modern day britain. but when you look in in the year 20
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2021, for example , only 22% of 2021, for example, only 22% of referrals were related concerned. islamism as the home secretary said, 80% of the counter—terrorism policing networks investigate this, 80% point five islamist relate . so point five islamist relate. so you see that there's a fundamental mismatch in terms of how a broader counter terrorism infrastructure is lacking . yet infrastructure is lacking. yet joe, i'll throw back your way again your capacity behavioural psychologist it would appear that one aspect of human psychology is a desire to not cause offence to anyone and the fact that we may be all quite terrified about it. do you think the muslim of that that leak to in public policy. we wouldn't want to stoke racial tensions that can actually mask the way we deal with things in this case terrorism . yeah, i think there terrorism. yeah, i think there is great psychologist coming from on talking about all forms extremism and dangerous
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radicalisation of any form , radicalisation of any form, whatever group. so yes there is we should just be looking thoughts and not be putting to any form of religion or or creeds. these are just extreme of any sort. so i would say again, is the lone attacker very often has a mental disorder? the group or a person's influence to join a group probably doesn't. they have all sorts of reasons why they may. and we've got to look at it . the perspective of look at it. the perspective of not being frightened, of looking . we are and to anything other than approach to get this sorted out. q amount of damage, we've got to say not that we take blows. terrorism is not a mental illness . just very finally, very illness. just very finally, very quickly, on this particular issue right now, do you actually think that we will get this sorted as long as there are people, apologists there who are willing to take taxpayers money
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and then go on and pledge support, or certainly show support, or certainly show support for the taliban ? they're support for the taliban? they're involved in the prevent scheme. i mean, it's not going to work, is it, if that's the case? well, it's actually shocking we need to strengthen diligence to strengthen due diligence checks and think that needs to checks and i think that needs to be investigation itself in be the investigation itself in terms how those funds were allocated , we need examine allocated, we need to examine those procedures , make sure those procedures, make sure there's no repeat of that. i think more generally , patrick, think more generally, patrick, we have to confront culture of political correctness and, radical identity politics, because that has no place in matters security. thank you. thank you very much, doctor. to keep us on the social policy analyst on joe hemmings, a behavioural psychologist reacting to prevent anyway we may patrick christys on gb news. coming up, the partner of missing of two, nicola birley has visited the where has visited the spot where police believe that she fell into the river. wyre we're going to volodymyr zelenskyy to hear from volodymyr zelenskyy himself believe or not, that week we've got an attack attack
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let's bring you the latest news headunes let's bring you the latest news headlines this hour. let's bring you the latest news headlines this hour . and in headlines this hour. and in a historic visit , the uk, the historic visit, the uk, the ukrainian president has addressed parliament, hailing the strong british character that has been shown response to the russian invasion . he also the russian invasion. he also had kind words for a former prime minister and let's just play prime minister and let's just play the correct clip here about presidents . the prime minister presidents. the prime minister has been asking the defence secretary which uk military jets could be donated in support of ukraine. and you can see if you're watching television earlier. charles, welcome. president to buckingham palace . president to buckingham palace. following the ukraine leader's historic dress to mps at westminster and he's using his visit to urge the uk and western allies to provide what he called wings freedom by supplying his air force with advanced air
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power. we can see pictures on tv of zelenskyy shaking hands with rishi sunak earlier outside number 10 downing street . the number 10 downing street. the gods smiled and offered me to sit down on this chair, from which were orders have been given . and he asked me , how did given. and he asked me, how did i feel ? and said that i feel? and said that i certainly felt something . but it certainly felt something. but it is only now that i know what the feeling was and. all ukrainians know it perfectly well to it is the feeling how bravery takes you through the most unimaginable heart to finally reward with the victory . reward with the victory. meanwhile, governments and organisations around the world
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are support to turkey in. syria, after two devasted fighting earthquakes killed more than 11,000 people. the foreign says three british people are still missing following the disaster. the uk government has pledged support to president erdogan , support to president erdogan, who's declared a state of emergency for months in the ten worst affected cities. he's been out meeting survivors and emergency that are working to save lives in subzero temperatures and the government's programme is not doing to tackle non—violent extremism. according to a new report, it's accused the government of double standards when dealing with extreme right and islamist ideology . home and islamist ideology. home secretary admitted the scheme needs reform and should focus on security rather than political correctness. the government has accepted all 34 recommend donations made by the review . in donations made by the review. in other news today, the former labour jared o'mara has other news today, the former labourjared o'mara has been found guilty of six counts of fraud from during his time in
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office. the one year old who was a member of parliament between 2017 and 2019 and was on trial for submitting fake invoices to parliament worth around £24,000 to fund his cocaine habit. a jury to fund his cocaine habit. a jury cleared of two other charges. sentencing taking place tomorrow at leeds court. those are your latest news headlines. you're up to date on tv online on dab. plus radio .just. patrick no, just a quick heads up, ladies and gentlemen pretty much any moment we're expecting to hear volodymyr zelenskyy himself . so we'll throw to that as well . but before we get to that, the partner of missing nicola bullock has visited the spot police believe that she fell into river wyre after into the river wyre after another day of scouring area another day of scouring the area underwater search expert peter folding baffled after folding said he's baffled after failing to find the mother of two. nicola adam is the editor
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of the lancashire post and she joins me now. nicola you very much. i can only imagine that the area where you're covering it the minute is absolutely up in arms about all of this just a really case, isn't it ? yeah, really case, isn't it? yeah, it's incredibly tense here in lancashire because there's so much going on this the entire world's media landed upon a really small village. sorry very sorry. hold that thought. nicholas apologies. we're going live now to dorset , where the live now to dorset, where the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy speaking alongside fresh low with british fresh from low with british military camp and just a few ago, dozens arrived . learn how ago, dozens arrived. learn how to operate our challenger. two tanks. i'm told they're already mastering the art of driving 62 tonne sophisticated weapons which will soon be making a difference on the battlefields of your country . all over the of your country. all over the united kingdom, ukrainian men and women are learning how to command , control nato's standard command, control nato's standard . whether that is in drone warfare tank operations or basic
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training . their dedication , training. their dedication, courage and determination is a credit to you and your country and also to me, your visit here underlines our two countries close and enduring friendship . close and enduring friendship. we will always be by your side, your staunch and unwavering friends . and we both know the friends. and we both know the people of ukraine's incredible strength and inspiring bravery will ultimately defeat tyranny . will ultimately defeat tyranny. thatis will ultimately defeat tyranny. that is why we are training and arming them with the equipment they need to push back russian forces. and as i said to you earlier today, we are also accelerating the delivery of our equipment, the equipment of allies to ensure that it reaches your front line in coming days and weeks, not months or years . and weeks, not months or years. the ukrainian crews who arrived last week, will be using challenger 2 tanks to defend ukraine's territory next month .
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ukraine's territory next month. and i am pleased that today we have agreed that we will expand training programme, a programme that has trained 10,000 troops in the last six months alone. so your marine and fighter jet pilots ensuring the armed forces of ukraine are able to defend their country for generations to come . we must arm ukraine in the come. we must arm ukraine in the short term, but must bolster ukraine for the long term. your country cannot be left vulnerable to attack ever again .today vulnerable to attack ever again . today we have signed the london further deepening cooperation and in the coming days we will mark a year since this needless and unprovoked invasion and russia will see more than ever that their tactics are only solidifying western . only convincing us to western. only convincing us to go further and faster. to help you, vladimir. and we will after you, vladimir. and we will after you told me last week , that
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you told me last week, that collective international unity is your greatest weapon . and you is your greatest weapon. and you can be sure that we will deliver on that, not just now , but long on that, not just now, but long into the future . thank you so into the future. thank you so much . thank you so much . prime much. thank you so much. prime so no need for a soutenir ceremony. premier so on your short at stamp because it would mean britain's sin. i'm not sure it's going to me a release from denialism on nice. you put a moment of someone that is going blinkered that the knowledge that the greens can join in. so what you mean what's the leading vote on that put that involves is this okay. all right ladies and gentlemen obviously zelenskyy he that now he is clearly talking ukrainian but i am to summarise what have you see said he said that basically we're going to be ukraine's staunch and unwavering allies so
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we'll always be by that side will always be that friend he's supposed to essentially support ukraine in basically way that we possibly can . the very latest possibly can. the very latest today is zelenskyy arrived. he touched didn't say in this country went to meet directly sunak initially he then obviously went on to go and speak with various different campaigns in westminster hall, etc. and he basically us in advance for failing , which as advance for failing, which as yet not have been promised, but we're going to go back now to volodymyr zelenskyy, who now is a translator, which is not spell to him him. zeeshan ayyub to put him on him. zeeshan ayyub mnemosyne associate mnemosyne is an associate professor detailing some of the who presumably really he who and presumably really he chimpanzee liam or you know i mean just because i think should see eating and stuff these see this eating and stuff these grizzled give me jacqueline grizzled that give me jacqueline ricci premiering . yes ricci premiering. yes unfortunately he does not appear to have a translator as it currently stands but that we go right okay so he has just ability to essentially what the state of plays out at the moment
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which is volodymyr zelenskyy calling for actual fighter jets as a capacity role in as you see in a capacity role in the wicket that he has the wicket for that he has pledged britain support pledged that britain support ukraine they ukraine in way that they possibly will by possibly can. they will stand by their side. they'll be an unwavering ally following on from the that boris from the legacy that boris johnson started when johnson first started when frankly else frankly before anyone else had really their backsides in really got their backsides in great britain, decided to go and take mantle there and do take the mantle up there and do what to stop the what we could to stop the ukraine immediate into ukraine falling immediate into vladimir putin's clutches. i don't think can agree don't think we can all agree that we right to do so. rishi sunak's funding that basically saying will do from saying look what we will do from now on is support you in almost any we can. pledges were any way we can. the pledges were that british fighter pilots going to be going to train ukrainians in the nato standard technology, not just with their but with all other types of technology . just a quick summary technology. just a quick summary of what britain has already in terms of support for ukraine. in total, the uk has provided point £3 billion worth of military aid to ukraine. that was last year. that was at the end of 2020 to more than any other nation. it's
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united states. i think that's a point where i think is say i know a lot of you are very concerned about the idea that a lot of people our friends on the continent, as it were, the countries knife, big man vlad decided continue to roll his tanks through ukraine and into the they would tanks through ukraine and into the gobbled they would tanks through ukraine and into the gobbled up they would tanks through ukraine and into the gobbled up first. hey would tanks through ukraine and into thegobbled up first. whatould tanks through ukraine and into thegobbled up first. what didi be gobbled up first. what did they did it take so long they and why did it take so long for them to answer? i believe were sending a variety of different equipment were sending a variety of differethe equipment were sending a variety of differethe germansquipment were sending a variety of differethe germans were|ent were sending a variety of differethe germans were just while the germans were just sending coloured. i can sending rainbow coloured. i can hear going hear a translator, so i'm going to up listen to them. to shut up and listen to them. willingness to work with us in executing the ukrainian peaceful morale and also would like to thank all of our ukrainian warriors whether it's every soldier sergeant to officer or general . our state is doing will general. our state is doing will be doing to make sure on the front line we have everything in the maximum maximum that's owned by other leading country ukraine will be among those countries who has everything to defend their people. glory to everyone
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fighting for ukraine. many to everyone who helps ukraine again. thank you russia. thank you to all the people in putin. thank you. thank you for. all this 350 days of unity to ukraine. i mean, i think we have some time for a few questions. the media can we start with it's news to someone ? thank you . a news to someone? thank you. a rohit approach from my itv on. mr. president, first of all, you made a broad and emotional appeal today to further . but i appeal today to further. but i think that all british people want to know some of the specific. for example, when do you believe this russian offensive will happen, how many fighter jets do you need? when do you need them? and what if you don't get the. and to you, mr. prime minister , you seem to mr. prime minister, you seem to be itching towards a position and being to provide fighter jets, the ones that you close to
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the ukrainians. can you offer actually here now. will they get them? and if so, when ? thanks them? and if so, when? thanks for the question why don't i start and then i'll. so the first of all that we've been very clear and we've been clear for a long time that when it comes to the provision of military assistance to ukraine, nothing is off the table. and that's because we are determined to ensure the thought of the president and his people can be victorious against russian aggression . and we've backed up aggression. and we've backed up that rhetoric with action last year behind , the united states, year behind, the united states, we were the single largest donor of military equipment to ukraine. and we said that we match or exceed that amount almost two and a half billion pounds again this year. and you saw when it came to the provision of main battle tanks, we were the first g7 nation i amounts not weeks something the president and i discussed previously . it was important president and i discussed previously. it was important in order to ensure that ukraine can make progress on the battlefield
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and i think we helped lead an international conversation led to many other countries following us and providing main battle tanks to ukraine. so when it comes to fighting to combat aircraft of course they are part of the conversation indeed been discussing today and have discussing that today and have been previously and that's why we've announced today that we will be training ukrainian air force on nato's standard platforms . because the first platforms. because the first step in being able to provide advanced aircraft is to have soldiers or aviators that are capable of using them that is a process. it takes some time. we've started process today. that's because we're keen to support the president, his country, in delivering a victory. and nothing is off the table. and our leadership on this issue, something that we all collectively should be very proud i know that the proud of. and i know that the president is grateful for the outcome. thank you. thank you very much. thank you for your question. with regard to the equipment , the equipment that we
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equipment, the equipment that we need of course, there's a lot of equipment we need. and a lot of different equipment. it all depends the situation depends on the situation on the battlefield. on the day kind of in the military day direction, but also depends on what's happening within the, you know, how we are fighting against the iranian drones. how we are fighting against the iranian drones . you know, there iranian drones. you know, there are hundreds and thousands of them. and then we are fighting against them by various means. that includes also ballistic missiles, because this vehicles, this iranian drones, they hit civilians infrastructure, educational infrastructure , educational infrastructure, hospitals, schools civilians, you know, because they are trying to threaten ukrainians. they're trying to make them . but they're trying to make them. but ukrainians are not going to flee because they're that is why when we talk about this, we do need air defence systems and we are grateful to everyone who is providing them. and that also
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when we those systems that allows people to go to work and work and once we once people of work and once we once people of work obviously this money they'll not just go to put pensions or other social welfare but also this also goes to our warriors why it's very important that we have everything needed to support people their jobs. and when we talk about the battlefield, what priorities, of course, are armoured vehicles? you know, we know our enemy got thousands units of armoured vehicles know back from the back from the soviet union heritage and of course need to armoured vehicles they're the best and yet there are only few of you know when you only have ten need to armoured vehicles against a thousand of soviet armoured vehicles. well what are the chances you know and we have no
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way how do we have to stand firm need armoured vehicles. we need tanks, we need fly rejects and obviously we've spend a lot of time talking about this together and you just heard what mr. prime minister mentioned and even today and tomorrow we will be meeting with the eu leaders discussing this issues and also a longer range missile . that's a longer range missile. that's our priority and. i'm very grateful that britain has heard us in regard and i do hope, that all the countries will also hear when it comes to a longer missiles, you know, because we do need to push back the russians. some people can just live . and as to the offence of, live. and as to the offence of, you know, what, what can i say ? you know, what, what can i say? frankly, we in this state of war what can i say? you we cannot be just thinking about the
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offensive defence has never happened, you know it has been a different kind of intense city. so all we need to think is that us make russians think about ukrainian counterparts and say okay, they to be thinking about this they need to be thinking how should be leaving. oh territory. that's how i would like to share with you. thank you.thank like to share with you. thank you. thank you. vladimir next call. call on bbc . ukraine you call. call on bbc. ukraine you thought president juncker was a crazy boss. what you love? nothing productive . in the nothing productive. in the morning you i'm not alone. you leave it . gentlemen. so what we leave it. gentlemen. so what we see there for you watching on television is volodymyr zelenskyy has just gone to give a representative of bbc ukraine a representative of bbc ukraine a massive hug. and that's what's happened. a massive hug. and that's what's happened . so they're obviously happened. so they're obviously our friends. she is now . ask him
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our friends. she is now. ask him a question in english. we're going to take it back to that. you know that ukrainian soldiers, they are every soldiers, they are dying every day. think that that day. don't you think that that about war planes is taking too long and then the other question , what are steps to clear the reputation of as a city that is still laundering russian money? thank you. it's. still laundering russian money? thank you. it's . said i think thank you. it's. said i think you heard from president's previous answer in about the very immediate needs and that's a defence and long—range missiles and that's the conversation that we've been having most recently about . how having most recently about. how can we provide air to defence the ukrainian population ? that the ukrainian population? that has been the thing that we've talked about probably in all of our conversation, which is why we've provided thousands of surface to air missiles and air defence systems and we'll continue to do so and more are coming over the next few weeks . coming over the next few weeks. and as the president said,
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probably most crucial capability right here and now is , main right here and now is, main battle tanks, which we led on, but also those range missiles that i think that in all of the talking that we've done in the planning for how can have decisive victory on the battlefield and make progress . battlefield and make progress. yes, it requires long—range missiles , which currently the missiles, which currently the range is not there . and again, range is not there. and again, that's the conversation that we've we hope we've having. and again, we hope that britain lead. but when it comes to soldiers , we, we, we comes to soldiers, we, we, we feel very the tragedy and the hardship that your country and your country men are going through and, you know, we've both had the privilege of meeting some of them today. i've met some of them in the past and their bravery is inspiring. it's awe inspiring to as i have, awe inspiring to see, as i have, you the ordinary young, you know, the ordinary young, young men and women who are fighting to defend their country and being trained to do so here. and they go with not just all wishes , all training, but they wishes, all training, but they go with our full support with all the equipment that we can
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continue provide them and will continue provide them and will continue do . rest continue to do. but rest assured, are here with you, assured, we are here with you, with your people , continue to with your people, continue to provide you with whatever we can to ensure safety and that to ensure their safety and that success. thank you. and with regard to sanctions i think we've as you as you saw the beginning of this conflict, i used to be the finance minister and we put place and the president talked about it earlier today, probably the extensive and forward leaning sanctions of any country at the beginning of this conflict to demonstrate clearly that russia's aggression was unacceptable and we would punish them in every which way we could . we've announced further sanctions today, but continually when it comes to sanctions , we when it comes to sanctions, we have, led and you have, i think, led and you remember the conversations we on on things like swift and banks right at the beginning of this conflict. again was britain that led way in pushing for very led the way in pushing for very strict sanctions . and i said strict sanctions. and i said we've announced further today and wherever we can continue you know tighten them do more we know to tighten them do more we will look to do so as we have done today . next we go , sky news
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done today. next we go, sky news place place . thank you. told me place place. thank you. told me why i called sky prime minister, if i could ask you, first of all, that does seem be a lag between ukraine asking for more surfaced a case of weaponry and eventually being given they ask for more advanced artillery. it was eventually sent they've asked for tanks they will be sent eventually . they now want sent eventually. they now want fighter jets and training their pilots. but we're not the jets. you're predecessor. one of your predecessors, a close friend of president zelenskyy, has has wondered why not doing more? why not send more so they can finish off the job now ? what is holding off the job now? what is holding the west back ? why is there that the west back? why is there that lag ? mr. president, good to see lag? mr. president, good to see you . if i could ask you about you. if i could ask you about fighter jets. you. if i could ask you about fighterjets. how you. if i could ask you about fighter jets. how urgently you. if i could ask you about fighterjets. how urgently do fighter jets. how urgently do you need them and what does it mean for your country if you don't get them ? so, i mean, i don't get them? so, i mean, i think that's the first question. and again, i start the notion of
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the question because i think we have continually led actually in the uk where the provision of equipment to ukraine and whether it was right at the beginning with anti—tank missiles, whether, as you heard from the president, the importance of vehicles. i think we've sent hundreds, it's hundreds, whether it's artillery, guns in the next few weeks , a new set of batteries , weeks, a new set of batteries, artillery guns will arrive at tanks. we've already talked and we're training combat aircraft for the first time. indeed, actually, something that we should have probably been doing a time ago, because we have a longstanding training with ukraine that predates the war. but that is something as we look forward we'll want to continue to do of as we want to make sure that ukrainian armed forces are trained on nato's standard equipment and there's greater interoperate between ukraine and nato, which is very much something that we've been discussing. so i think actually we've continue to be on the forward leading edge of it and we're providing as we're providing things as quickly can the the quickly as we can the that the challenge tanks are going to
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challenge of tanks are going to be on the battlefield. as i said in matter of weeks. i mean, you've seen the ukrainian soldiers being on them as soldiers are being on them as fast can we're fast as we can and we're providing them fast as we providing them as fast as we can. we know they will can. and we know that they will they will make a difference. and i think the president would tell you, we've been having you, you know, we've been having conversations months conversations for the few months that this job that i've had this job and relatively after we relatively rapidly after we discuss necessary. discuss what is necessary. you know, ukraine that we do know, ukraine sees that we do respond then we galvanise respond and then we galvanise others to that's what others to respond to that's what we done and what we have done and that's what we'll to do . we'll continue to do. a youngster. thank you. thank you very . and i would like to be very. and i would like to be honest with here in the history of this war, there are several pages and one of the speeches. so in even a section since you may be in this war, it's been a very special section . for our very special section. for our war issues and also great britain equipment . and you be
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britain equipment. and you be talking about german lines as well . and then , oh, people had well. and then, oh, people had to rise up and they had to fight with . they had you know, we are with. they had you know, we are not we are not we are not doing any self here. okay. what they had were doing and we were just grateful for whatever we were getting . and then we turned getting. and then we turned another page , you know, and then another page, you know, and then we turned into , we all turned we turned into, we all turned into fury because russians were just killing and murdering people and they were raping people and they were raping people and they were raping people and were ready to have anything and use any kind of weapons to destroy them and. then we turned another page artillery. you know, we needed . artillery. you know, we needed. we we needed to work in a different direction. and this is exactly where we received some help and support. for example in certain places obviously britain
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helped us a lot but when it to high marks we've got a lot help from the us and we are really grateful to them this page in the history of war that . i it's the history of war that. i it's very important to understand that russia has no pity for their own people they just keep on throwing people to the battlefield. you know words we have pity and we protect our people we would not throw them just onto the we needed to prepare them and that that kind of marked a difference in the war and now we've come to kind of this dig nation phase. you've just asked me what would happen if we don't get this fighter jets , the longer range missiles jets, the longer range missiles or we don't have enough ammunition or because everything obviously is running out in coming out of maintenance . so if
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coming out of maintenance. so if you don't have the 285 are artillery, you know , there will artillery, you know, there will be stagnation. this people will be stagnation. this people will be coming and be living on no territory . and this will pose territory. and this will pose great risks to all of the world because just now they've captured a nuclear station and they just live there , you know, they just live there, you know, and kind of risk will be everywhere . there are terrorists everywhere. there are terrorists that and so without the weapons that and so without the weapons that we are discussing and the that we are discussing and the that we are discussing and the that we just discussed with russia earlier today , how russia earlier today, how britain is going to help us know all of this is very without this there will be stagnation which will not bring to anything good .thank will not bring to anything good . thank you. next, we inter good evening, mr. prime minister, to provide europe and the president. yep. it's press conference. it was pretty in chest next year. unless she's
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possibly coming to you after that press conference because she people repeat some if you will. it is summarised she wasn't neutral on the economy russia your day today and yet i am very interested in your question i mean it was a major muckraking and even a handful of days ukraine you know in a different country just under the peaceful sky. so what are your personal impressions and what threatens to me back at . home threatens to me back at. home you know who is you know. yes, this my second visit outside of ukraine after the beginning of the russian invasion . and you the russian invasion. and you know what? i to do to important to things . and first of all i to to things. and first of all i to express our deep gratitude deep gratitude . all the ukrainian gratitude. all the ukrainian people to the people of great
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britain, to the government of great britain, to everyone who had been helping to us, our land , make sure that we don't lose it, because this our land, which is due and i think it's that great britain has so active in fight and truly i grateful we should we should be forgetting everything what we have gone through all of this months at any point we could have lost our independence and yet you and it and yet all of time you haven't had battalion and fortunately battalions of friends allies. but yet we had a very strong unit of friends , partners, unit of friends, partners, allies and great britain, as has has stood as our ally and friend
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aspects that helped us to be strong to and push back the enemy. yet the war has not ended . and then there is another reason why . why i'm here with reason why. why i'm here with this visit. and that's the heavy artillery. and that's why i'm here. you know, i'm here again . here. you know, i'm here again. we have to do what we can do. we have to come and we talk. we have to come and we talk. we have to come and we talk. we have to talk openly. we have to be frank . i'm as the president be frank. i'm as the president of the country, which is

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