hello there at 6:00. i'm michelle dewberry and this is dewbs& co the show where we'll get into the things that have got you talking. now, astrazeneca , there's lot of astrazeneca, there's a lot of people talking those guys people talking about those guys today have decided today because they have decided that they're going to their that they're going to sell their next establishment ireland, next establishment in ireland, not here in the uk. why.7 well,

not here in the uk. why? well, apparently because of our high taxes, it's disincentive for them. so it has. q lots of people saying what is this government thinking gets that corporation tax down, not up. q the other side, though, is saying, no, no, no, no, no. these greedy corporate nations do not pay enough tax . what do do not pay enough tax. what do you make of it all? and there was a horrific video that's been circulating recently. i'm not going to play it, don't worry. which was an awful outside which was an awful fight outside of school . long story the of school. long story short, the teachers are in trouble because they eventually meandered over hands pretty much in pockets and did not very much at all to stop it. there's been a big protest now saying that the teacher and the head should be fired, should they? how much responsibility should a teacher have for breaking up physical fights, especially when they are on the outside of the school? do we just have kind of a walk on by society because of the number of people, by the way, that will were literally walking on by was immense. nobody really got

involved stopped it at all. involved and stopped it at all. and speaking of bullying, dominic raab, he says he's not a bully . he dominic raab, he says he's not a bully. he just has high standards. so do you think there's a difference and do you think the workplace is basically gone soft? people cannot handle all robust talk and we need more of that, not less . that's what i of that, not less. that's what i think. and you know, 42% of all cannot remember when we last out loud. i'm going to change that. your absence when you last laughed out loud, was going to be dewbs& co on friday night. so to make that happen, get some good jokes in for me, please. we'll have all of that to come. but get ourselves but first, let's get ourselves up speed. what's tonight's up to speed. what's tonight's latest headlines with bethany elsey . michelle, thank you. elsey. michelle, thank you. here's your top stories from the gb newsroom, the number of people who've been killed following monday's earthquakes in southern turkey and northern syria has risen to more than 22,000. rescue workers say the

window for finding survivors is closing , but there are still closing, but there are still glimmers of hope as several children have been pulled from the rubble today, including a ten day old baby and his mother who were rescued after surviving four days in a collapsed building. an appeal by the uk's disasters emergency committee has raised more than disasters emergency committee has raised more tha n £30 million has raised more than £30 million in its first 24 hours. turkey's president erdogan says rescue efforts aren't going as fast as he'd hoped due to military. despite the fact that we've gathered perhaps one of the largest search and rescue teams to the region with more than largest search and rescue teams 141,000 members, unfortunately , 141,000 members, unfortunately, it's a fact that we've not been able to respond as fast as we'd hoped. well, syria's government has given permission for humanitarian aid to be sent to rebel held areas five days after the earthquake struck . it's the earthquake struck. it's thought the move could speed up the arrival of help for millions of people affected. the head of the syrian white helmets

response group has accused the un of failing to provide appropriate aid, claiming the region had not received any support so far at least 3200 people are known to have died in the country, with up to 5 million left homeless, according to the unhcr . the rmt has to the unhcr. the rmt has rejected the latest offers from both networks rail and the train operating companies , with the operating companies, with the general secretary describing them as dreadful. the pay deal was 9% over two years, but mick lynch says it doesn't meet expectations on job security or working conditions. the rail delivery group, however, described their offer as fair and said some members will be deeply dismayed. meanwhile around 15,000 ambulance workers in england have been striking today in their dispute over paid jobs and conditions. today in their dispute over paid jobs and conditions . and more jobs and conditions. and more than 70,000 and staff . at 150 than 70,000 and staff. at 150 universities are walking out for the second day this week . the the second day this week. the chancellor has warned the uk isn't out of the woods yet after

the latest figures show the economy narrowly avoided falling into recession in the final quarter of last year. data from the office for national statistics shows the economy saw zero growth between october and december , but the overall annual december, but the overall annual gdp rate grew by 4.1. jeremy hunt welcomed the figures, but warns there's still more to be done. well, the fact that we have avoided recession, in fact, with the fastest growing major country last year, shows there is underlying resilience in the uk economy . but we are not out uk economy. but we are not out of the woods . inflation is still of the woods. inflation is still much too high. that is causing pain for families up and down the country , which is why we the country, which is why we need to stick to our plan to halve inflation. if we do that and play to our strengths in science and technology, we really can be one of the most prosperous countries in europe. the government says it's been assured by every energy company in the uk that they will stop forcefully installing pre—payment metres for

vulnerable customers. the regulator ofgem launched an investigation after reports that not all suppliers were following the rules. meanwhile, the chancellor says there's no major new initiative to help those struggling with their bills . struggling with their bills. when the price cap rises in april, bills are set to increase from two and a half thousand pounds to 3000 grains. prime minister says russia has launched more than 50 missiles at the country today. kiev's mayor, vitaly klitschko claims ten have been shot down over the caphal ten have been shot down over the capital. the attack has caused damage to power grids at six locations, but there are no confirmed casualties. schools in kyiv have been forced to evacuate and continue with their classes at an underground station . meanwhile ukraine's station. meanwhile ukraine's president has addressed a uk led summit to discuss russia's participation in next year's olympic games in paris. the international olympic committee says it's considering allowing athletes from russia and belarus

to compete as neutrals. but the lithuanian sports minister says all 35 countries in attendance agreed with volodymyr zelenskyy that russian and belarus and athletes should be banned altogether . europe to date athletes should be banned altogether. europe to date on tv onune altogether. europe to date on tv online in derby plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back to dewbs & co with . dewbs& co with. michelle thanks for that. bethany elsey michelle dewberry. and i'm keeping you company right through until 7:00. the evening alongside me my friday favourite political consultant alex dean and paul embry , the author, and paul embry, the author, firemen and trade unionist. good evening. good evening to you. i was just saying at the start of the program, that's about laughing out loud. so i was putting pressure on you, too. so ihope putting pressure on you, too. so i hope you've come up with your finest dirt right now as we've been implementing. we've been for a long time kind of a ball

of gb news that britain's got talent, you name it. they showing their age and ball showing their age and ball showing their age and ball showing their age. i was asking you guys as well if you've got any jokes for me in chris and pat . i obviously needed to give pat. i obviously needed to give you a little bit more direct and then just send me a general joke because i evidently needed to say it to you guys and everyone else. keep them clean. it is teatime. so whilst i've got your jokes and they are very interesting . no, i will not be interesting. no, i will not be sharing them with the nation. but thank you very much for your input. if you have got any clean jokes or anything else on your minds in relation the stories minds in relation to the stories i've coming up, get in touch i've got coming up, get in touch with me. views at gb news dot with me. gb views at gb news dot uk is the email or you can tweet me gbp news. i want to talk me at gbp news. i want to talk to you tonight about corporation tax. is it too high? is it too low? teachers how much of a responsibility did they have when it comes to getting involved and breaking up fights

? you might have seen the incident. i refer to going round social media and these kids do having it all blasted all over the internet and bullying. you know, if you've got high standards and you expect results and outcomes, is that a form of bullying? do you think there's too many people in the world of work these days that are wet lettuces, quiet , frankly, and lettuces, quiet, frankly, and i know you can't use this phrase anymore, but it's almost like some people need to man up a little bit or am i missing something? give me your thoughts . but let's get into our top stories , shall astrazeneca stories, shall we? astrazeneca you seen this news you might have seen this news today. have announced that today. they have announced that they will not be building their new factory. it is rumoured to be abou t £350 new factory. it is rumoured to be about £350 million new factory. it is rumoured to be abou t £350 million factory. be about £350 million factory. it was hoped to be north—west england , but now they're going england, but now they're going to take it to ireland. why well, what they say is the uk tax is here disgorging business investment in this country. long story short, they're saying that taxes for business are too high. alex dean, are they? yes, i

think it's a real warning. shots about the level of tax we set in our country. we need to make britain more attractive for foreign investment. and it's also warning for people who demand that we raise taxes in a kind of soak the rich attitude, whether it be about individual tax or corporation tax, because in the end, if you if you pretend to be a champion of the working class, you realise that you want these people to have jobs go to. you have they jobs to go to. you have they need work to be in. and need to have work to be in. and astrazeneca, the second highest business in footsie 100 business in our footsie 100 would once i've got no no doubt that at our old level of corporation tax they would have beenin corporation tax they would have been in the uk when we were around 18 19. been in the uk when we were around 1819. we were still a bit higher than ireland at the time, but we were still able to attract huge amounts of investment from businesses like pharmaceuticals because the uk is attractive place and as is an attractive place and as long we were competitive long as we were competitive enough come enough then they would come here. if so much higher, here. if we so much higher, there's just no chance of attracting this, that kind of investment. are real investment. and these are real jobs future. you jobs for the future. it's you know, are interesting jobs know, these are interesting jobs in high tech. we

in pharma. we want high tech. we want people to come here and invest, tax here. as a invest, pay tax here. as a result. so i think this is really bad news and government should here, should listen here. here, i'm assuming paul embery assuming you agree, paul embery you wrongly, michel, as you assume wrongly, michel, as i'm really, really i'm sure you really, really know. i think know. i mean, i don't think astrazeneca should be holding the frankly. the country to ransom, frankly. now heard that phrase now we've heard that phrase a lot recently. haven't we? whenever unionists whenever the trade unionists withdraw that labour because they're higher they're fighting for higher wages, which would know these wages, which i would know these people hold the people shouldn't hold the country to ransom now. and i use this argument a lot. why is it acceptable for a rich corporation to essentially blackmail governments and to say, unless you give us the tax regime that we want in order to allow us to make even more profit , then we are going to profit, then we are going to take more capital. let me finish. we're going to take our capital abroad. why does nobody say, hold on a second, astrazeneca, you should not be holding the country to ransom . holding the country to ransom. what people alex i he's we're going indulge these people we've got what they got to give them what they demand they want low tax rates give them trouble give it to them trouble why the

policy arguments policy you're arguments are relevant astrazeneca is relevant for when astrazeneca is making of making those kinds of conversations. the decisions they've it they've now they've now made it they've now doneit they've now made it they've now done it they've showed you the consequence your position and consequence of your position and called said called your bluff. they said right, i come to uk, right, i won't come to the uk, then i'll elsewhere. and in then i'll go elsewhere. and in then i'll go elsewhere. and in the a low percentage of the end and a low percentage of something is better than high something is better than a high percentage nothing. and percentage of nothing. and that's going to that's what you're going to leave us. so, so essentially what have is a race to what we have then is a race to the bottom where countries are trying outcompete other trying to outcompete each other in offer the lowest in order to offer the lowest rate corporate tax. and the rate of corporate tax. and the big corporations can take advantage of that. they can put pressure on governments and say, look, you give look, unless you give us something longer than this something even longer than this country giving us, we're country is giving us, we're going to up sticks and go elsewhere. now, what does that mean? that race to the mean? what does that race to the bottom on corporation tax means? it means essentially that the wealth income inequality wealth and income inequality we've got this country at the we've got in this country at the moment because, moment increases. because, let's be honest , tax cuts of that kind be honest, tax cuts of that kind benefit mainly the rich. they don't, by large benefit don't, by and large benefit poorer you know, poorer people. and you know, this kind of myth that all we need to do is to roll back the

finances of the states and reduce tax and regulation as much as possible, because that way businesses will be happy with this and they'll get richer and the rest of us will get fichen and the rest of us will get richer. the whole kind of trickle down theory, i think, has been debunked recent has been debunked for recent history. the raising of the threshold for income tax has been something that's gifted to low income people. more of their own income than anything any recent government has done. so the idea that tax reform and taking less tax doesn't help working class people or people getting their wages up. what about more alex getting a wage? i note that as soon as i wrap up entirely point one, you just move seamlessly to point to point one tax in tax free allowance on income tax has meant a great to people and meant a great deal to people and encourage them into work so that was my first point. my second point would be i just don't really understand where you think you're to get to think you're going to get to with argument like this, with an argument like this, because businesses in the end are going pursue lower tax are going to pursue lower tax regimes. have to have

regimes. they have to have choices . and it's bizarre choices. and it's just bizarre that you think what you think. the your side is, the argument from your side is, well, should volunteer well, you just should volunteer to and therefore , i to pay more tax and therefore, i expect that you will. i'm afraid no corporation in the world is going to follow your logic. paul well, the truth is what don't well, the truth is what i don't think addressed my point think you addressed is my point that essentially then it becomes a to the bottom. which a race to the bottom. which country offer the lowest country can offer the lowest rate corporation tax? because country can offer the lowest ratehaveorporation tax? because country can offer the lowest ratehave to oration tax? because country can offer the lowest ratehave to give on tax? because country can offer the lowest ratehave to give in tax? because country can offer the lowest ratehave to give in to (7 because country can offer the lowest ratehave to give in to bigecause we have to give in to big business the time now we have to give in to big busineseene time now we have to give in to big busineseene in time now we have to give in to big busineseene in tim

fact people are struggling fact that people are struggling to people in the to make ends meet, people in the pubuc to make ends meet, people in the public not decent public sector not only decent wages, people the private wages, people in the private sector , not only wages, sector, not only decent wages, what what is it about your legacy? you want? this is mp in this state. well i volunteered someone you ignoring them. but there something higher there was something about higher productivity. running productivity. the state running a i do also think your a surplus. i do also think your argument would you make this argument would you make this argument a great about the argument a great deal about the philosophy of taxing wealthier people more? and every argument comes back to it, it seems to me at least once a show, but in the end you're ignoring the reality right of you. right in front of you. astrazeneca showing you what astrazeneca is showing you what will these companies will happen. these companies will happen. these companies will somewhere in will go somewhere else and in the trying to tax the end you're trying to tax people aren't here. point people who aren't here. my point is having the ability to tax at least something is better than not being able to tax them at all. in the end, your party will just drive people out of the islands and goes down to, let's say, theoretic only 8% corporation tax. there are 15. whoa, on whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. hold on a theoretically, a second. theoretically, 8% corporation . and all of corporation tax. and all of a sudden, big businesses in this country, in this country say to

our government, elected our government, our elected government, the government, unless you do the same, sticks and same, we're upping sticks and going what going elsewhere with what that means losses local means forjob losses and local industry and all the rest of it. you say, okay, let's go to 7. i already hang on. i already indicated i think you should address that. i've done it twice . third time. . don't do it a third time. well, how you see how well, let's see how you see how good.i well, let's see how you see how good. i don't think you did when we had a lower tax, a corporation tax regime, we still weren't as ireland, but weren't as low as ireland, but businesses willing businesses were willing to invest as a invest here in effect, as a compromise say all things compromise to say all the things that are about the uk, that are positive about the uk, the culture of the the the culture of the place, the language, the right times in london an attractive place. london is an attractive place. school good enough of school place is good enough of that. children, relatively that. their children, relatively commutable so commutable housing stock and so there's a package of there's a whole package of reasons people to reasons that people come to a country sometimes. are country sometimes. these are arguments offered on your side of the discussion, but when the disparity so between disparity gets so large between you lower tax regime, you and an a lower tax regime, you and an a lower tax regime, you to look the reality you have to look at the reality of confronting you. of what's confronting you. and paul of what's confronting you. and paul, debate in paul, this isn't a debate in theory. astrazeneca is the second company in the second largest company in the footsie, just said we've changed an investment because an investment decision because of you just want to go of this and you just want to go back to thing. i that

back to the thing. i get that you think should capitulates you think we should capitulates a demands whatever a big business demands whatever they are when it comes to taxation. that you just taxation. i get that you just say big business holds holds the cards here we need to give in to them. need do whatever it them. we need to do whatever it is they want to do. what is that they want us to do. what does mean that of that does it mean that any of that what that mean for what does that mean for democracy? what does it mean for people who go to the box people who go to the ballot box and government that and vote for a government that makes certain pledges investing in services getting in public services is getting real and on and so real wages up. and so on and so forth. and all of sudden that forth. and all of a sudden that government is confronted with multinational laws and corporations who say actually, you support you know, we don't support any of low tax of that. we want a low tax regime. we want a low regulation regime. we want a low regulation regime we regime regime. we don't particularly the of particularly like the idea of decent workers rights and environmental standards and a minimum all that kind minimum wage and all that kind of thing. what we're going to do is to leave. there's is threaten to leave. there's going flight and going to be capital flight and we're take our plant we're going to take our plant abroad. mean for abroad. what does that mean for democracy effectively? it democracy effectively? what it means is people can vote for a government who then, unless they're up for they're prepared to stand up for it, be blackmailed by a it, can be blackmailed by a corporation that no corporation that has got no democratic and says, democratic mandate and says, this you should, but this is how you should, but otherwise are on way otherwise we are on our way

behind you show why behind the rhetoric you show why a government bad a labour government would be bad for because if they would for the uk because if they would pursue you want them to pursue the line you want them to take and tax at a higher rate. it is true it would be less attractive for businesses to come here. can dress it up come here. you can dress it up in it's normally about in whatever it's normally about protecting rights in whatever it's normally about prot�* safety rights in whatever it's normally about prot�*safety work rights in whatever it's normally about prot�*safety work and rights in whatever it's normally about prot�*safety work and so hts in whatever it's normally about prot�*safety work and so forth. and safety at work and so forth. but when it comes, but in the end, when it comes, when comes down to it, you when it comes down to it, you want tax them more and as want to tax them more and as much out of vindictiveness. as far as i know, as actually to do with goes into the system. with what goes into the system. so there's there's so there's nothing there's nothing whereby nothing i've said there whereby you it's out of you should conclude it's out of vindictiveness. been vindictiveness. it's not been vindictive. this is out of fairness when you extrapolate it all from what i to all the way from what i said to you, it's bad for democracy. people entitled to vote people are entitled to vote for policy. they want vote for, policy. they want to vote for, and a party is entitled to and then a party is entitled to enact a platform based on its manifesto. if, you wish, manifesto. if, as you wish, labour going to go labour says they're going to go into government saying seek the businesses we businesses and seek the rich. we will less attractive will become even less attractive for in this. take for business in this. you take the to extreme by the argument to the extreme by saying, the alternative to saying, well, the alternative to oppose a the bottom oppose in a race to the bottom in terms of corporation tax is your stranglehold on that. that's hold on, is that's your extreme hold on, is

to what we'll do then to say, well, what we'll do then is the rich instead. is we'll soak the rich instead. no, suggesting we no, i'm not suggesting that we soak ratio. i don't believe soak the ratio. i don't believe in punitive levels of taxation, but i do believe it needs to be set. how would be such set. so how high would be such such a stand that enables us to be fund our public be able to fund our public services, which crucial and services, which is crucial and does not force us does not have does not force us to capitulate to the demands. they to lower they never like demand to lower taxation. high would be too taxation. how high would be too high? well, i think it depends on economic circumstances at on the economic circumstances at the i don't believe in the time, but i don't believe in punitive levels taxation. but punitive levels of taxation. but i levels of i do believe in fair levels of taxation. you at taxation. what do you believe at home? i've to say, paul, home? i've got to say, paul, i try and i think to myself, one of these days, i am going to agree with paul embery when it comes to economics, what is definitely not today. you talk about it's all about growth, what it was about . so now i have what it was about. so now i have not bangs my head. you talk about holding country to ransom you time at the comparison a company making it's absolute fair and valid choice to be somewhere else and you compare that to workers in this country holding the country to ransom. they are to entirely things the

principle michel the policy the principles are the same because if you're a trade unionist and you're struggling because of the rate of inflation and your real wages falling, and say, wages are falling, and you say, i'm to withdraw my labour i'm going to withdraw my labour in to improve financial in order to improve my financial my situation . then why my financial situation. then why do get accused of holding do they get accused of holding the company? i'll tell it because tell because. because i'll tell you because. why business? let me answer because i'll tell you because. wthen. business? let me answer because i'll tell you because. wthen. because s? let me answer because i'll tell you because. wthen. because if let me answer because i'll tell you because. wthen. because if their1e answer it then. because if their situation is so that they're situation is so bad that they're struggling to live and all the rest it, they do actually rest of it, they do actually have a choice which is to leave that job, go and seek a higher paid employment elsewhere. oh is that to do your last that easy? is it to do your last point about? it a risk to the point about? is it a risk to the bottom? there are many countries that a lower rate of that have a lower rate of corporation tax than the uk already, and yet we have businesses in this country so we don't see a situation where countries where companies in the uk sit there and go hang on a second, ireland or wherever quite frankly have almost zero but lower rate. so let's pick up and find. so we said why do we find so in which case, why are

we feeling under pressure to reduce our corporation tax rate in order to astrazeneca? because of the astrazeneca, because a business blackmailed, business has been blackmailed, would do this or i would be saying do this or i won't invest. that's not what that has happened you. and that has happened to you. and you've whole is you've got your whole premise is wrong. not wrong. the companies instead not invested, decided not to put its investment somewhere and investment somewhere else. and then why they are then says here is why they are being and honest . so you being helpful and honest. so you know globalisation the way know that globalisation the way it is now with the interconnectedness of national economies the world, economies around the world, allows big corporation and still do exactly what i'm saying, which is to say, look, we've got an operation here. if you don't give us tax rates, if you give us low tax rates, if you improve environmental standards and on and workers rights, we are on our governments kowtow our way. and governments kowtow to you they well to that. you know, they do well and why would anyone, and said, why would anyone, any business to the uk business want to come to the uk when unions are wrecking when the unions are wrecking this with that strong ? this country with that strong? jeff says this government is totally stupid if they think that raising corp tax will encourage companies to invest here, i don't blame them . in here, i don't blame them. in case you're not following, it's 19% at the moment and do i think in april to go to 25? that's the

kind of figures that we're talking about . kind of figures that we're talking about. linda kind of figures that we're talking about . linda says, talking about. linda says, please, michelle, can you tell paul astrazeneca have made paul that astrazeneca have made a sound business decision if only out government were capable of making such decent decisions as them? keep your thoughts coming in. gb views. gb news dot uk is the email address. coming in. gb views. gb news dot uk is the email address . i can uk is the email address. i can see my inbox is on fire as well with your jokes. you're really sending the man. i'm trying to not be distracted. bryson says. can i just say michelle, what a wonderful that debate , debate wonderful that debate, debate that just was and how interest doing it was to hear to different perspectives , fairly different perspectives, fairly slugging it out well done to both of you, he says . that's both of you, he says. that's bryson. i'm assuming you're a guy ' bryson. i'm assuming you're a guy , but you could not. hey guy, but you could not. hey i don't know. anyway, we're going to take a quick break. when i come back, i want to talk to you about teachers . do you think about teachers. do you think we've almost got situation now we've almost got a situation now where are not doing where teachers are not doing enough when it comes to stopping fights, fights these days , by fights, fights these days, by the way, of course, are very violent. they're obviously

circulated far and wide on social media. and you might have seen the one that i'm referring to, which was awful and has now led to a petition to get the head teacher and anyone else involved. i think, quite frankly, fired because they didn't do enough to physically, i would say, break up a fight. do we just have a walk on by culture? homemade i'll culture? it's homemade and i'll see you .

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own nigel farage. we're live . own nigel farage. we're live. at eight. hi there. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. political consultant alex dean keeps me company, as does paul embry, the author, fireman and trade unionist. welcome back, everybody . hello, graham . says everybody. hello, graham. says michelle, how many times do we need to learn that raising taxes too high leads to less tax takings? graham i hate to break it to you , but i think there are it to you, but i think there are some people that will never get that memo. that is what i am convincing myself of . david convincing myself of. david says, paul , you're wrong. that's says, paul, you're wrong. that's what david says. country is already offer incentive. no there was more. i was just being dramatic. paul's just for me to get drama . he says country's

get drama. he says country's already offer incentives to attract businesses . so why not attract businesses. so why not lower taxes to attract them? i thought thatcher approval lowering taxes brought more tax revenues in and crushed public services bills quite radical, he says. corporation tax should be scrapped. they would already be paying scrapped. they would already be paying vat and all employees would pay a national income tax and national insurance. that is the way to attract investment. thatis the way to attract investment. that is very bold . this bill, that is very bold. this bill, £68 billion in the last tax in the last tax shave. my memory serves me right, which i think it does. that was the figure that we brought in from corporation tax. it was the fourth biggest tax area in this country. so, bill, you tell me, where would you find the 68 billion from that? actually what you might say is we will have more companies. therefore they'll have more employees. therefore, you'll have more income tax. and around and around we go. bu t £68 billion is around we go. but £68 billion is one of a hole to fill, one heck of a hole to fill, isn't yeah. anyway. right, isn't it? yeah. anyway. right,

let's talk, shall we? about teachers and fighting . alex alex teachers and fighting. alex alex deakin. that is laughing . quote, deakin. that is laughing. quote, i know. i do apologise. yeah, i know. my mind when i said that guy - know. my mind when i said that guy . yeah. i went somewhere guy. yeah. i went somewhere i shouldn't have gone to apologise for that. talking serious things like europe. sorry. well sorry. it's your fault. and i know. well, i do apologise , but it's well, i do apologise, but it's my whole life . mine. yes. thank my whole life. mine. yes. thank you. paul embery writes straight face fighting in schools. i mean, in my day , it used to be mean, in my day, it used to be kind of over and only got in a circle. it was like a bit of rough and tumble and off you went about your business. but these days, these things are brutal. ever remember by brutal. i don't ever remember by the way, people stamping on each other's and rest other's heads and all the rest of it outside school. do you? but that's what seems to be commonplace an awful commonplace these days. an awful video circulated video has been circulated saying i'm going it. it was i'm not going to play it. it was horrible. anyway, long story short, it was a kid beating up another kid. it was encouraged

by the mother, the mother? yes. you did take me right there. siblings were getting involved , siblings were getting involved, passer bys were pulling up in the and watching it out the car and watching it out their window, growing. men standing by. long story short, the teachers, it took him ages to out there. the man did it to get out there. the man did it with in pockets with the hands in the pockets and little, if anything and did very little, if anything at break up. big at all, to break it up. big petition now that these people should lose their jobs, what how much of a responsibility do you think have? paul for think teachers have? paul for breaking up these kind of fights ? have a major ? well, they have a major responsibility . and i have to responsibility. and i have to say, look, each case will turn on its own facts. and i guess we don't necessarily know all of the detail about this particular case other than the video that we've we can of course, we've seen and we can of course, draw some conclusions from that. but i do fear actually that we have become something of a walk on by society . i mean, have become something of a walk on by society. i mean, i look, you know, we've all seen fights in the school playground or outside school. and i certainly saw those in my time . but i know saw those in my time. but i know also that if an adult,

particularly if a teacher was in the vicinity and saw it, they would be intervening straight away , pulling individuals apart, away, pulling individuals apart, dragging them back into school and dealing with it. so i think any suggestion that teachers don't get involved or shouldn't get involved or you know, as in this case, apparently just stood back , i think is really worrying back, i think is really worrying , not just. i just wonder, actually, if we're a different kind of moral society now, i think to even the society we were ten, 15, 20, 30 years ago. and i think i think there's been a basic breaking down of the sense of community, a sense of obugafion sense of community, a sense of obligation between people, between neighbours, between colleagues , between friends and colleagues, between friends and a kind of crumbling of the universal moral code that i think once bound the nation. so which means that sometimes if i do see something like this going

on, whereas once upon a time as i said, i would have been straight in there, you actually now see people, adults looking at kids and standing by that more. i think that's a very different society to one different society to the one that i was used to growing up. but isn't it more fear because before if saw schoolkids before if you saw two schoolkids having a fight, they would just p0p having a fight, they would just pop each other, on pop hitting each other, one on one fist. whatever one with the fist. whatever these days, know, you take these days, you know, you take chances whether not one chances as to whether or not one of got a machete the of them's got a machete down the pound. so, mean, i think that pound. so, i mean, i think that i think that may partly be the case.i i think that may partly be the case. i think some people possibly good reason, do possibly with good reason, do fear that . but actually, no, i fear that. but actually, no, i mean , if you if you see kids mean, if you if you see kids fighting, tussling, whatever , in fighting, tussling, whatever, in this case knocking seven bells at each other , if you're any at each other, if you're any sort of responsible adult . yeah. sort of responsible adult. yeah. i mean, look, if you with all due respect, if you're an elderly lady in rights is of course, you're not going to intervene. but if you've got your about you and if your wits about you and if you're in reasonable physical you're in a reasonable physical shape and you're an adult, then you and pull you should wins of gang and pull them and frankly, you no them apart. and frankly, you no excuse doing the right

excuse for not doing the right thing. you're thing. there is a reason you're not it. i'm not advocating not doing it. i'm not advocating it, but one of reasons that it, but one of the reasons that teachers generally speaking, it, but one of the reasons that teaciasideanerally speaking, it, but one of the reasons that teaciasideaneralexampleslg, it, but one of the reasons that teaciasideaneraiexamples and look aside from examples and think generality, one of the think in generality, one of the reasons teachers are reticent to intervene in physical intervene in in physical situations is that they have no confidence that the system will back them up. they have no belief that their employers and the system and the school will take side instinctively take their side instinctively and instead will almost always automatically view with suspicion the involvement of a teacher in any physical altercation. that's the basis of the problem. now there is a second. there are lots of other things to say, right? teachers aren't security guards. this was off do they off the school premises. do they have more or less a have more or less of a responsibility than others? interesting. open questions. i believe, paul, that we believe, like paul, that we generally have generally speaking have responsibilities in society to one indeed it's a one another. indeed it's a corollary. paul and i have a differences politically. one of the of my belief the corollaries of my belief in a state is i believe a small state is that i believe in responsibility and in individual responsibility and responsibility to one's community to the people community and to the people around can't construct around you. you can't construct around you. you can't construct a that kind of a society without that kind of responsibility , in view. but

responsibility, in my view. but so the first thing that's wrong is that teachers just have and indeed adults passing by have no belief that the system will back them instead of instead of instead criticising them and saying that they were in the wrong potentially with quite profound ramifications for them and if get and their jobs if they get involved. and of course, the more immediate issue , although more immediate issue, although it apply in example it doesn't apply in the example that talking that you're talking about revolting the behaviour revolting though, the behaviour on was . and second concern on show was. and second concern is that many teachers will have an immediate for their own an immediate fear for their own safety if they safety and security if they do get involved, which is the point you're making to begin with. yeah, a story yeah, and i was reading a story earlier on about a teacher who faces being off after faces being struck off after apparently kids in his apparently some kids in his class. and they have the phones out. they're doing tiktok videos. and he apparently banged on and shouted, like, on the table and shouted, like, who do you think you are ? and who do you think you are? and now it's been investigated . head now it's been investigated. head for that. apparently that is not acceptable . levels of acceptable. levels of aggression. one of my view is has been in touch. simon and he

says school teacher, friend of mine stepped in to stop two kids fighting. and he was suspended due to the fact that he put a hand on one of the lads. he was so dismayed that he resigned his position. i mean, that for me it sounds wrong. there you are. but we said it interestingly enough, we've said something before on the show which see the show which we now see specifically in this example. you blair, once said to you know, blair, once said to michael howard over the dispatch box, the problem is when you and i were at school, you got in i were at school, if you got in trouble at school, you were in trouble at school, you were in trouble at school, you were in trouble at home. and that's not true anymore. the parents automatically believe the teachers many parents. teachers must be many parents. not enough not all, obviously, but enough for a real problem for for it to be a real problem for the schools. i believe that there little angel must be right and school be wrong and the school must be wrong here. example, one here. this example, it's one worse that. parent is worse than that. the parent is encouraging violence . awful. encouraging the violence. awful. you know, viewers are saying that. some people are saying that. some people are saying that the teachers should be suspended. with suspended. what's wrong with a parent their parent that encourages their child up girl? child to beat up another girl? i think it's certainly true that teachers by and large been teachers have by and large been stripped of a lot of their

authority and their autonomy in terms of dealing with disciplinary issues in school. i was recently speaking to one of my past teachers . funnily my past teachers. funnily enough, i'm out with him recently and he was about as strict as they come when i was at school. you certainly didn't cross him, but even he said towards end of career , towards the end of his career, he just felt completely kind of handcuffed , metaphorically handcuffed, metaphorically speaking, in terms of just not being able to discipline the children, the children themselves . and he was a teacher themselves. and he was a teacher for 30 odd years, probably more than he said the children than that. he said the children themselves in respects themselves had in many respects become more feral in the become much more feral in the classroom. he just felt as a classroom. and he just felt as a result of the kind of regime, the teaching that he was under, that he just didn't have the authority that he once upon a time had . so i think that's time had. so i think that's a legitimate point and a big problem for us. go to max an interesting point, gordon says teachers only have authority within school premises outside . within school premises outside. they're just basically another member of the public. i don't

buy that. i have. yeah, i don't buy that. i have. yeah, i don't buy it. i think that in the same way as if you're an employee of a particular company and you act in a i think someone's i think someone's claiming a not so subtle hint that i need to go to a break hidden but duly ignored , because some of my people are getting in touch, some of my viewers are getting in touch with interest perspectives. peta says , since teachers says, since when have teachers expected been expected to act as police outside the school gates? paul says the reason must show that people don't try and stop fights. is because they're frightened they'll sued , frightened they'll get sued, rebecca instead of rebecca says. instead of worrying the teachers, why worrying about the teachers, why are focusing on the horrific are we focusing on the horrific behaviour violence within behaviour and violence within secondary schools ? because that secondary schools? because that is what is out of control, phil says. this is what you get when teachers about any authority stripped by the gooders stripped away by the do gooders . if one these teachers did . if one of these teachers did come running and grip all of these kids fighting and the kids would scream would surely scream sexual assault the way when it comes to school guidance, it is recommended that schools should not a no contact policy .

not have a no contact policy. what do you make to that anyway ? keep your thoughts coming in gb views at gbnews.uk is my email address. you can get on with me as well on twitter michelle dewberry. if that's your take a quick your thing, i will take a quick break. and when i come back, i want to talk to you about the goings on with dominic raab. he's, course, been accused of he's, of course, been accused of lots he says he's lots of bullying. he says he's not a bully, he just has standards. do you think there's too many people in the workplace these days? what lettuces ? these days? what lettuces? basically all know, do you think? actually, no, you shouldn't raise your voice at people. you shouldn't demand high things to a good , quick high things to a good, quick time for him. give me your thoughts . i'll see you into .

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being stolen . we will expose the being stolen. we will expose the cover ups that have kept this national scandal under wraps for decades, not one person is being held accountable. our investigation uncovers the true scale of this outrage . i want to scale of this outrage. i want to see senior officials held legally to account on gb news grooming gangs. britain's shane . hello michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight along side me and my panel, the political consultant alex dean and paul embery, the author, fireman and trade unionist. welcome back, everybody. i've lots of emails about you to really enjoying the debate tonight, so thank you very much for that . on that whole for that. on that whole situation about people fighting and stuff at school, heather says , michelle, my parents says, michelle, my parents always me to get back out always told me to get back out there and hit them back. if i went, i'm crying and i'll don't think was the child with think i was the only child with parent. like this, as was parent. it's like this, as was proved moments later when heath

replied to that said, same replied to that and said, same here. remember my mum buying here. i remember my mum buying me a bike for winning a fight in the streets when was around the streets when i was around ten years old. cool. blimey, no messing back in. this is what i write. let's talk dominic raab, shall we? he is come out in basically in defence of himself right now because every the day feels like there is another allegation against him, they've not yet succeeded though have they, getting him out. it's all about the fact that he is saying that he has high standards. he believes he behaved professionally at all times. and the suggestion is therefore that perhaps he's not a bully boss, just someone that wants things donein just someone that wants things done in a certain way. alex and the people with the faults, perhaps, are those that can't handle demands of high standards. your thoughts? well i declare an interest in that. i've done rob for a long time, and i worked a bit with him. i would say he's someone who has demanding high standards and expect , which expect results, which is precisely you want in an precisely what you want in an important government department.

some of the examples that have been so—called bullying been given of so—called bullying in the stories absolutely in the stories just absolutely laughable. looking at somebody . laughable. looking at somebody. so now i'm bullying poor looking . now you're bullying me. yeah, but you can . that's heaven. but you can. that's heaven. heaven for child staff. heaven forbid. putting his pen down, being silent. so on one hand, it could be what you say. another hand could be what you don't say in the end, it seems to me this is a partisan attack on a leading figure of the government and were the government to allow it to hit home for and to fool these critics , just move on to these critics, just move on to another minister, because it's not in the end about trying to resolve an issue. it's not about trying to deal with bullying. it's another it's about getting another scalp. and if they get one, they'll move on to the next. so you're if you give way to you're a fool if you give way to these people it's asking these people because it's asking these people because it's asking the to eat you last. the crocodile to eat you last. but before polling, if but before i bring polling, if you an effective leader of you are an effective leader of people and an effective communicator, that mean communicator, doesn't that mean that can rally your whole that you can rally your whole team around different team around you? different personalities team . personalities within a team.

some outgoing, more some are more outgoing, more confident more confident than others, some more junior. shouldn't your junior. so shouldn't your strength be and the demand of you as a minister be that you can take everyone with you? much of the time, yes. but in demanding high stress situations when things are done to short deadlines, occasionally people when things are done to short deadlito s, occasionally people when things are done to short deadlito fall:casionally people when things are done to short deadlito fall out. )nally people when things are done to short deadlito fall out. andy people when things are done to short deadlito fall out. and you ople when things are done to short deadlito fall out. and you know going to fall out. and you know what, michel? don't think it's what, michel? i don't think it's the herd the first time either. the herd of people out in the of people falling out in the workplace because it's workplace either because it's not that not the case that every workplace completely workplace is completely harmonious except for bullying. right. margin between right. there is a margin between everyone getting on fantastically out and out. fantastically and out and out. we need some kind of bullying. and in that spectrum , got to be and in that spectrum, got to be some margin for somebody being able to say another one of the bad examples terrible bad examples of terrible bullying, work good bullying, your work isn't good enough. you speak enough. heaven forbid you speak about the way i've been spending seven years ago. i believe it's that long. i actually won the apprentice television, which apprentice on television, which meant sugar, sarah meant that alan sugar, sarah alan was then, was alan sugar, as he was then, was my i remember him calling my boss. i remember him calling me c—word. mean, you won't me the c—word. i mean, you won't do that this and age, do that in this day and age, would what do you of would you? what do you make of it all, i mean, i've seen it all, paul? i mean, i've seen a largely agree with alex. look,

i'm a trade unionist, a lifelong trade unionist. i fiercely opposed bullying in the workplace. i've represented people as a trade unionist, trade union official who have been bullied. it can destroy lives. it can wreck people's careers . it's what you call careers. it's what you call being bullied. well i think i mean , numerous examples that we mean, numerous examples that we can use, but if you if you press someone in the workplace, if you constantly harassing them, if you're calling them names, if you're calling them names, if you're discriminating against them, those are the kind of examples of what i would regard as bullying. i've as bullying. and i've represented somebody , represented people in somebody, the workplace. i think it depends on context, all of these things. i think depend on context. the point i going context. but the point i going to make, michel, is, look, i fiercely opposed bullying, but the is that we don't know the truth is that we don't know all details of this all of the details of this situation . we only know some of situation. we only know some of the that's been dripped situation. we only know some of the to that's been dripped situation. we only know some of the to the hat's been dripped situation. we only know some of the to the media. en dripped situation. we only know some of the to the media. and ripped situation. we only know some of the to the media. and actually, out to the media. and actually, i do think that if you're a cabinet minister, you are inside told to be assertive. i mean , told to be assertive. i mean, i've got i've got no love for dominic raab. let me be clear. he's not sort politician

he's not my sort of politician at all. i don't suppose at all. and i don't suppose we'll ever go dancing together, but if you're but i do think that if you're a cabinet minister, you're entitled to be as you're entitled to be as if you're entitled to be as if you're entitled to be as if you're entitled to high entitled to demand high standards and sometimes that will you potentially to will lead you potentially to being abrasive as long as you don't . as long as that doesn't don't. as long as that doesn't slide into bullying , then slide into bullying, then i think as a cabinet minister, you can probably get away with that. my fear and we saw some of this with priti patel, again, a person whose politics i didn't agree with the most part agree with for the most part that civil have to that the civil service have to do. think some civil do. and i think some civil servants a particular servants do have a particular agenda going to agenda to say we're going to launch a complaint against this person, blacken this person's name sudden the name and all of a sudden the whole of government gets whole system of government gets bogged in these bogged down in these allegations. and that's why i would be concerned. and some trade unions have called for dominic raab to be suspended. my concern is that suspending concern is that by suspending effectively you would be giving a green light to any political parties future to say parties in the future to say trade unions. all we have to do, all we have to do is make allegations against person allegations against this person and to mr. is right. and they to mr. paul is right. you're to go to your

you're entitled to go to your union. there is a civil service union. there is a civil service union and i need support, union and say, i need support, asindeed union and say, i need support, as indeed some the most as indeed some of the most senior civil in the senior civil servants in the land whom i think we're land from whom i think we're entitled to expect bit of entitled to expect a bit of robustly done over there robustly us have done over there cabinet demanding cabinet ministers demanding that they i don't they produce results. so i don't disagree my point they produce results. so i don't disagr

that they might not like. the views of. then think, what are views of. then i think, what are you creating ? so these you creating? so when these people finished learning people are finished learning whatever that they're whatever it is that they're learning then go out learning and then they go out into real world of work, into the real world of work, what is the end product of that person? because then they go into this world of work that doesn't have a safe does doesn't have a safe space. does an trigger when all the an average trigger when all the rest of them rest of it, and a lot of them the underlay anyway we know we're people the we're not teaching people the basics resilience and basics of resilience and resourcefulness, which actually in a tough world, everybody needs. we've stripped people needs. and we've stripped people of those attributes. so you that word that word is one word that actually so many people could do with learning, appreciating , with learning, appreciating, demonstrate resilience. it is a word that is not used. it is a concept that seems to be all but forgotten. wrong says my view is one person's discipline is another person's bullying. who decides ? let's hope whoever decides? let's hope whoever decides? let's hope whoever decides has experience of the real world down, says the civil service is full of left wingers who don't like being told what to do by the tories. have tried all this with percy patel. now

it's a witch hunt and alex thinks the government is full of left wingers. not just the civil service. but that's what happens you say when people like the media, they get carried away with stupid campaigns with these stupid campaigns trying of trying to get people out of offices a drink or offices for having a drink or whatever and they succeed. whatever is, and they succeed. well then get emboldened. well then they get emboldened. go as alex says, go then along as alex says, comes the next one. anyway i am going to take a bit of a break. i'll stop talking about bullying . i going to do whole sorry . i am going to do a whole sorry 60 change the tone entirely 60 and change the tone entirely because about almost half of all is pretty much cannot remember the last time we left out loud. while i was very sad and seen as it's friday and we've only got 10 minutes left, let's tell some jokes. let's see if we can lighten the mood, making sure that happens. going to our weekend with a smile on her face. shall we give me a joke and i'll see you into .

hello there , i'm michelle hello there, i'm michelle dewberry and this is dewbs& co and we are with you right through until 7:00 tonight alongside me, the political consultant alex dean and paul embery, the author fine and the trade unions. and because it's friday, we're going to do our last walk, five, 10 minutes, whatever we've got left now, we're going to pretend that we're going to pretend that we're in the pub, hence the dnnkin we're in the pub, hence the drink in my hands, the cheers, everyone to i saw story and everyone to i saw a story and cheers to you at home. your cheers to you at home. if your friday night started early. friday night is started early. i saw a story this week and it really did catch my eye because what it was saying is that 40 odd % of those cannot remember odd% of those cannot remember the last time we laughed out loud, sobbing, asking you guys all night long, can you just give me some jokes to end the story? wait, i'll start with you, alex. you got a hilarious one. i've told a friend of mine she drawing on eyebrows she was drawing on her eyebrows too looked surprised too high. she looked surprised right. okay, paul embry , two right. okay, paul embry, two flies playing football in a

salsa. one says to the other one, make an effort. we're in the cup. tomorrow, a smile . the cup. tomorrow, a smile. that's no smile at jokes. we got to smile. that must have been good.i to smile. that must have been good. i have to say, i on day four of them naughty, said david, don't like jokes , know david, don't like jokes, know they're all moody . are you they're all moody. are you laughing at a pity? no not just. yeah.i laughing at a pity? no not just. yeah. i was kind of like . i tell yeah. i was kind of like. i tell you, i bought myself craig david fridge. it was rubbish. it only kills on sundays . right? well, kills on sundays. right? well, so off wasted though. this is my daughter's joke , so you've got daughter's joke, so you've got to laugh at this. otherwise you'll be most offended. what's the best thing about switzerland ? i know. flags a big plus ? i don't know. flags a big plus of flags a big plus. ? i don't know. flags a big plus of flags a big plus . he writes, of flags a big plus. he writes, i that's a quality joke that let me i've got to say they're laughing in my ear but can i'll tell you my favourite joke of all time. well, how come we have not done that? first i go saving it to the end. no build up. go on then. did you hear about the flasher? who was thinking about retiring? no, i didn't. he

decided to it out for decided to stick it out for another right, man ? oh, another year. right, man? oh, okay. thank you for that, paul . okay. thank you for that, paul. really brilliance . and i've got really brilliance. and i've got to say, he's only had a mouthful his so i'll step away from paul shall i. and i'll just remind everybody about something that i experienced whilst on this show . it didn't make me laugh in any way , shape or form during it, way, shape or form during it, because i'm a very serious individual. i'll have, you know. but when i watched it back, back is like, did i laugh? take a look at this fortunate . i want look at this fortunate. i want you to slip up and fall and something because it's quite funny things that they didn't. and now quite simply warned us about the other stories . sorry about the other stories. sorry you have to buzz a buzz lightyear toy was one of the

fantasy of boom light it toy was up there as well . and i think to up there as well. and i think to myself i call it quite a shell . myself i call it quite a shell. well, that was the legend that is now is about a year and a half ago. i was it's still amazes me a lot what you guys see. oh, probably here at home is what was going on in the studio there. because as soon as it played and i didn't tell these i was playing, alex these guys i was playing, alex immediately remembers what was going laughter going on and burst into laughter as i can hear paul going, as all i can hear is paul going, but the. well, i don't but what's the. well, i don't know what is going on. completely perplexed. that was the some fella at the snoring about some fella at apparently over and they apparently slept over and they all exploded bomb from i think it was world war two and accidentally gone up his rear so got to the and really bad luck in it very this is the true story. yeah. yeah. and it was there. well it's obviously not true that he slipped and fell, but yes, it's true. so that's what he told his, i suspect. and then it was a whole story about

things that people put up things that people had put up the bottoms and had to go to a&e. so that was the concise anywhere. to be anywhere. you would have to be childish amused. childish to be amused. fortunately, am very childish, childish to be amused. fortunathings. im very childish, childish to be amused. fortunathings. letlery childish, childish to be amused. fortunathings. let me childish, childish to be amused. fortunathings. let me bring sh, simple things. let me bring my view andrew with the bloke view is in andrew with the bloke in the pub off me. eight legs of venison for 100 quid. the other day. you think that's too day. do you think that's too dean day. do you think that's too dear. for eight dear. that's for a good eight legs to bought a pair of legs to i bought a pair of tortoiseshell shoes, says henry. it took me 2 hours to walk out the shop because they're slow to come out. michelle yeah . clive come out. michelle yeah. clive the swedish navy now have barcodes on their ships so they can scan the navy in excellent . can scan the navy in excellent. michael i've been searching for a stolen bed. i'm not going to rest until i find it. i think it's supposed to be fun. it's good that is feasible for you to watch. is comedy go. i like this one dress says what do you call a spanish pack of crisps? hula hoops ? yeah. not bad. not bad, hoops? yeah. not bad. not bad, bad, bad line. is it going to be really jealous of us today? dave says.i really jealous of us today? dave says. i laugh. i've really i laugh out loud every time i the

labour frontbench in parliament. what a bunch comedians right. what a bunch of comedians right. oh not it's not if you made me laugh try harder time. have laugh try harder next time. have a i'll see a fantastic weekend. i'll see you on monday . a fantastic weekend. i'll see you on monday. good you guys on monday. good evening. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest all weather update from the met office this weekend. not a lot of rain around most places are going to be quite cloudy, but it will be dry quite cloudy, but it will be dry quite cloudy, but it will be a bit warmer than. it has been reason that high been the reason for that high pressure big area of high pressure is big area of high pressure is big area of high pressure has been controlling our weather for a while but our weather for a while now. but we of icebergs on we do have a lot of icebergs on the charts across northern britain. that's why it's been so windy gusty windy today. gusty, gusty conditions , continuing this conditions, continuing this evening, over evening, especially over northern scotland . some rain northern scotland. some rain here as well. nothing too heavy but a damp evening across the highlands and orkney in particular. for most though, it's drive heading out tonight, dry but cloudy and it won't be as cold as recent nights as well. temperatures mostly holding up six or seven degrees celsius, so nowhere near as frosty as recent mornings does mean the weekend will start

pretty drive a lot of cloud around quite a grey old day but most places will be dry and through the day they should brighten up should cheer up a little bit. the will tend to break and we'll see a bit of sunshine coming through, a little blue staying little bit of blue sky staying quite breezy in the far north. but elsewhere, the wind's a lot lighter tomorrow compared to today and quite mild for february 11, 12, maybe 13 february ten, 11, 12, maybe 13 in northeastern scotland. so again, warmer than it has been for many. again, if heading out on saturday evening, no real problems with the weather, it's going to be light winds, cloudy and dry, still some drizzle perhaps over the highlands and the western isles where it stays fairly breezy. but elsewhere the winds light . and again, most winds are light. and again, most places staying above freezing . places staying above freezing. sunday, almost a repeat performance of saturday. the weather's really not changing very much this weekend . again, very much this weekend. again, not much rain around most places starting fairly cloudy, but perhaps brightening up a little bit . so maybe a bit more bit. so maybe a bit more sunshine on sunday across parts of north—east scotland , maybe of north—east scotland, maybe north wales as well, seeing a

bit of sunshine again, a bit breezy the northwest. most of breezy in the northwest. most of the , though, fine the areas, though, dry and fine and temperatures again, nine, ten, 11 celsius. good bye

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