hello and welcome . this is hello and welcome. this is calvin's commonsense crusade eight. with me, the reverend calvin robinson on your tv onune calvin robinson on your tv online and on your wireless . online and on your wireless. today, we'll be discussing the revelations in a new book on nhs child agenda clinics and how staff regret routinely referring under sixteens of puberty blockers . british weapons could blockers. british weapons could be made in ukraine as part of a new deal to bring ukraine closer to nato. is this a good move or , a dangerous war, provocation? and of course, we'll be discussing . the church of discussing. the church of england is considering gender

neutral terms for god. but first, it's the news , ray. some first, it's the news, ray. some . thanks, kelvin rapidly approaching 3:01. here's the. the number of people that have died in earthquakes in turkey in syria has risen to more than 33,000. it comes turkey has ordered 113 suspects be detained in connection with the construction of buildings that collapsed in the disaster last monday. some rescue operations have been halted in the country after reports of whilst hundreds of thousands people have been made homeless the middle of winter. the and rescue operations are probably coming to an end because it has been almost a week now and although yesterday there were survivors who had been rescued from under the rubble. i think it is probably coming to end now. the most important thing is the sustainability of these survivors and. and to do that

create the living conditions for them because it is very there's still no electricity and no heating . that was in our civic heating. that was in our civic how the former turkish ambassador to the united kingdom now a man has been charged connection with disarray outside hotel housing asylum seekers knowsley on friday night , 19 knowsley on friday night, 19 year old jarod skate from has been charged with violent disorder and assault. he'll appear wirral adult remand court tomorrow . merseyside police is tomorrow. merseyside police is saying that the violence with fireworks being thrown to officers and a police van set on fire left one officer and two members of the public injured. 14 other people who were arrested have been released on bail . the arrested have been released on bail. the labour party is urging the bbc chairman to consider position after mps found that he breached standards when for the role. the cross—party committee says that richard sharp made significant errors of judgement when he failed to declare he'd help boris johnson to secure

loan when he was prime minister . shadow culture secretary lucy is questioning whether he's still able to uphold trust independence at the broadcast . independence at the broadcast. his report. it really is unprecedented report . it means unprecedented report. it means that mr. sharp's position is increasingly untenable and he really should reflect on whether he's able to carry out that very important role. as the bbc chair to uphold public trust . to uphold public trust. independence of the bbc . the of independence of the bbc. the of the commons defence committee urging rishi sunak to boost defence spending due to threats of a new cold war. tory mp tobias ellwood told gb news that we need more money to replace military equipment and deal with aggression from russia china. it comes after reports that some nato allies are concern about the uk's military still on a budget. we've moved into a new era of insecurity . i make it

era of insecurity. i make it really clear we're still in denial. another cold war has started not on one front, but on two fronts with russia and china . my concern is that russia and china are not going to coalesce. they're not going to merge together knowing that they can exploit. the international rules based order. we up based order. unless we stand up . tobias ellwood now the brother of murdered two year old james bulger, says he'll forgive the killers. three decades after the crime james was snatched from a shopping and killed by two men formerly known as john venables and robert thompson when they were aged ten in merseyside in 1993, john venables is currently behind bars . 1993, john venables is currently behind bars. michael fergus says he should stay to give justice for . james search for missing for. james search for missing mum nicola bully is now in its 17th day as police continue to investigate her disappearance. today yellow ribbons with messages of hope have been tied to a bridge over , the river to a bridge over, the river wyre, near where two ms. bully

was last seen . she disappeared was last seen. she disappeared on the 27th of january while walking her dog shortly after dropping her two daughters off at school . lancashire police at school. lancashire police says keeping an open mind in its appeal for information . workers appeal for information. workers at heathrow airport are set to vote whether to stage fresh strikes , rejecting their latest strikes, rejecting their latest pay strikes, rejecting their latest pay offer. unite says over 3000 of its members, including security guards and engineers , security guards and engineers, begin the month long ballot on the 74 february. the union says that the offer of 10% increase amounts to a pay cut when compared to the rate of inflation and. a second unidentified flying has been shot down by. the us military this time canada. canadian forces will now recover and analyse the wreckage of the cylindrical object. it's believed to be similar to the chinese surveillance balloon which was shot down off the coast of united states about a week ago . this is gb news. we'll

week ago. this is gb news. we'll bnng week ago. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, let's get back to father . carlton the church of england has. been all over the news this week because synod, the governing body of the tv, voted after a lengthy to allow the blessing same sex relationships . lengthy to allow the blessing same sex relationships. this has caused a tidal in the wider anglican communion . the anglican communion. the traditional christian view is marriage is between one man and one woman, and that sex outside marriage is sinful, therefore unable , to be blessed by god. unable, to be blessed by god. there are those of us who now see the church england as apostates because of what i would call heretical teaching . would call heretical teaching. and the church of england is at risk. risk of renounced risk. risk of being renounced from the communion . many from the communion. many publications are conflating anglicanism with the kbe. so i'd like to take this opportunity to

explain the difference. anglicanism the name would suggest, is the english of the christian faith . when the christian faith. when the engush christian faith. when the english spread christianity around the world, we shared the tradition post reformation . part tradition post reformation. part of the one holy catholic and apostolic faith anglicans are both catholic and reformed. after roman catholicism and eastern , it is the third largest eastern, it is the third largest communion in the world. a group of anglican leaders now known as primates met in 2008 at a global anglican future conference. gaffigan overcomes of what they called a rising false gospel. they were concerned that the episcopal church america and now the church of england might be departing from biblical today on represents over 35 million active anglicans in the world wide communion. for perspective , there are just around 13 million anglicans in the uk . million anglicans in the uk. gaffigan is the majority , gaffigan is the majority, representing over 75% of americans worldwide . last year

americans worldwide. last year we interviewed , the chairman of we interviewed, the chairman of gaffigan, the most reverend dr. foley beech on this very show . foley beech on this very show. so why is any of this important ? in a statement released on thursday, immediately after the announcement regarding same sex blessings the sea of the global south . that's the majority south. that's the majority african arm of anglicans who will be attending afcon said that the church england has now joined provinces with which communion impaired. they made the point that the wider whatever the legal advice that the kbs doctrine of marriage has not changed. we hold the will established view that anglican liturgy expresses its doctrine . liturgy expresses its doctrine. as a result, they will be taking divisive steps towards resetting the anglican communion . if the the anglican communion. if the majority of anglicans are rejecting what they call the false of the church of england and, choose to renounce the sea of canterbury. the question that anses of canterbury. the question that arises can the church of england survive on its own, or will it be forced to repent and rejoin

the fold . the fold. hello welcome to the common sense crusade . me calvin sense crusade. me calvin robinson. here is what's coming up this afternoon . a new book up this afternoon. a new book claims more 1000 children were referred for puberty blockers at an experiment gender clinic where concerns were ignored to preserve a gold dust nhs contract. will this make us think twice when ? implementing think twice when? implementing controversial policies too soon in the future ? then i had a sit in the future? then i had a sit down with historian david starkey on why he believes universal human rights do not do not exist . as we delve into the not exist. as we delve into the ongoing on whether the uk should leave the aca hall and later on the church of england is considering whether to stop referring god as he. after concerning the use of gender neutral terms were raised by priests, is a vain attempt to

gain more younger followers or a genuine attempt to update the church's teachings. genuine attempt to update the church's teachings . and of church's teachings. and of course you can join in any of our discussions by emailing gb views at gbnews.uk , by tweeting views at gbnews.uk, by tweeting at gb news. dassault . at gb news. dassault. a new book looks at the inside story the collapse of the tavistock gender service for children claims that than 1000 children were referred for puberty blockers. there are also claims the book that concerns were alleged or allegedly ignored to a gold dust nhs . ignored to a gold dust nhs. former clinicians at the gender identity development service have detailed how some incredibly complex children were placed on after one face to face assessment , despite some having assessment, despite some having assessment, despite some having a variety of mental health or family background . for

family background. for clinicians at the service, reflect for the first time in detail of their regrets about the practise of routinely referring under sixteens for puberty, blocking and cross hormone treatment with . no hormone treatment with. no concrete data on the long term effects . joining me now is effects. joining me now is former editor of labour list peter edwards and, the executive editor of the critic sebastian millbank. now peter, those are those us who would say that embracing trans ideology soon without any concrete data is bound to raise like this have been saying it for a while. should we have been should have been more obvious to us. i don't use the word ideology. i we all agree on. try trans people should be treated with dignity . should be treated with dignity. but i want to talk about the of it which is i don't see why it's appropriate excuse me for anyone under the age of 18 to have life altering of this nature because . it is very difficult to give informed consent. obviously the sunday times have run effect a

campaign on this reporting over many months and described today in a book extract regret and second thoughts by some of the children who perhaps may now be over the age of 18, who have had these drugs which are irreversible, but i come back to this point, which is i and i'm sure everyone watching wants trans people to be treated with dignity. but what is a failure ? dignity. but what is a failure? medical regulation for, people under the age of 18 to have irreversible changes made to their body. right. and we've in this report from , the book that this report from, the book that people were given puberty blockers as a thinking process , blockers as a thinking process, as a time to decide whether they wanted altering wanted to the life altering drugs came later but pretty much everyone that went on those puberty ended up taking puberty blockers ended up taking irreversible drugs, didn't . and irreversible drugs, didn't. and i believe so i haven't read the book. i've read the extract in the sunday times today. there are different ways it and i think one of the points you alluded to is, if a child has questions of this nature and lots the children involved had

other medical issues as well, perhaps like a health problems or were on the autistic spectrum. then there's a range of support they need before making this irreversible life changing decision about your identity. and is that not the problem in that we are talking about a life altering decision here and we're talking about vulnerable children. the most vulnerable children. the most vulnerable children. the most vulnerable children in society that a lot of them have been sexual abused. a of them are sexual abused. a lot of them are mentally ill. a lot of them had, you know, high rates of autism. a lot of family issues a lot of that family issues going on. are we letting going on. are we not letting down not been letting down or have not been letting down or have not been letting down vulnerable? down these vulnerable? we certainly them certainly have been letting them down. problem is down. i think the problem is that when you is that when it is that when you is that when it is that we look at all of the kind of all of the mismanagement that's gone on here , of that's gone on here, all of the all of the ethically questionable decisions and. it's not that one institution has gone wrong is that when you begin the wrong point, begin at the wrong point, everything will go and everything will go wrong. and the begun at the point that they've begun at is willing prescribe is being willing to prescribe a drug puberty blockers, which in very extreme cases of things

like precocious puberty, are not a medically appropriate drug to get into any healthy child because this is stuff that will destroy your bone structure, is things that will delay the normal onset of puberty. it has a huge number of psychological and physiological effects on the body are incredibly harmful. you know, the what we call the blockers, but they're actually castration. and you castration. absolutely. and you know, the fda is i think they just want 10,000 negative side effects. this drug i understand any clinician giving this to a healthy child that never have been on the table. right. and if you've got a process where you're giving a drug, under no circumstances should you be giving to any of the patients coming before you. you've coming before you. and you've got ones to give got to choose which ones to give it it's not surprise that it to. it's not surprise that they weren't good they weren't making good decisions it wasn't decisions because it wasn't a good to make that good decision to make in that process so bringing process quite so. so bringing that to pizza, i mean, you that back to pizza, i mean, you say but when say it's not ideology, but when people after one face face people after one face to face meeting being put on these meeting are being put on these drugs, to that drugs, it seems to me that somewhere the people somewhere along the line, people are wanting affirm the trans are wanting to affirm the trans movement and the trans, as i

would call it. is it going to hurt future young who do hurt future young people who do identify trans. yeah, well, identify as trans. yeah, well, i didn't that. i said didn't quite say that. i said ideology a word would ideology wasn't a word i would use there's different use because there's different ways know, ways into it. but you know, i think your question is really about what happens next. is it. yeah gauge the clinic on understand closed understand it has been closed down often the case we've down the as often the case we've campaigning journalism there's been wealth coverage i'd been wealth of coverage i'd imagine there'll be a government review and i think can all review and i think we can all expect to see medical guidance rewritten because i'd imagine and this is not at all a part of political point it's hard to see a government in a concerted government giving a green to these changes for a child . you these changes for a child. you know, i think it's one of the biggest scandals we've seen in a long time. i could honestly spend the whole talking spend the whole show talking about book, but we do about just this book, but we do have to move on. so i'd like to read a response from read a report, a response from the we did to the tavistock. we did reach to the tavistock. we did reach to the and nhs the tavistock and portman nhs who works on a case by who told us works on a case by case basis. every young person and their family working thoughtfully and holistically with them to explore their situation expectation of situation with no expectation of what outcome them

what the right outcome for them might be. only the minority of young people seen the service young people seen in the service are to for physical are referred to for any physical interventions at the tavistock and portman. we wholeheartedly support staff to concerns support our staff to concerns and have recently strengthened our mechanisms for doing so . our mechanisms for doing so. concerns relating to young wellbeing are taken seriously and investigated onto our next topic british weaponry and military vehicles could be manufactured in the ukraine under plans that would mark a deepening of the country's ties with nato . but some critics say with nato. but some critics say that this simply stoking the fire and further provoking stronger reactions from and earlier this week, ukrainian president zelenskyy renewed his call for fighter jets . a visit call for fighter jets. a visit to the uk where he addressed both houses parliament. but defence secretary ben wallace says there will be no transfer of uk fighter jets , the ukraine. of uk fighter jets, the ukraine. but he did not completely out sending aircraft to the ukraine. now still with me in the studio is peter and sebastian . i'll is peter and sebastian. i'll start with you this time.

sebastian, what you make of this always stoking the flames of world war iii? well, i don't think we're stoking the flames. world war three, that will be russia. obviously, the west can make things for response. we make things for its response. we do think about that. do need to think about that. i mean, biggest in all mean, my biggest concern in all this to send weapons to this is to send weapons to ukraine, although would say ukraine, although i would say we've degraded military we've so degraded military capacity number areas capacity in a number of areas that we simply aren't in a position to give us that. and so it's weapons including jets. but i a specific concerns about i have a specific concerns about the that we should the idea that we should manufacture british in ukraine. we're talking about one of the world's most corrupt countries. we're talking about a conflict zone the would be zone where the would be vulnerable by russia . vulnerable to attack by russia. and again it's one there's so many as in so many cases which by sentiment when there is know and there is clearly a moral commitment that we have help ukraine but we don't know what's going to happen in five years and ten years and 15 years. do we want to, you know, take, you know, things like, you know, the eurofighter typhoon is eurofighter typhoon know, is this of you this something hundreds of you know, over a hundred billion has

been project? you been spent on this project? you know, talking, know, know, we're talking, you know, british where we've british tank stuff where we've poured investment research into them. want to them. do we really want to transfer with little regulation and oversight into ukraine? and i don't think we do. i sebastian raises very good points . i raises some very good points. i would we are driven by would suggest we are driven by sentiment to the point that we're seeing. what we're seeing right now is heroes. worship is idolatry zelenskyy idolatry around zelenskyy and the many people the ukraine. and many people rightly the concern about rightly call the concern about ukraine and russian ukraine citizens and russian citizens however, citizens in this war, however, we're zelenskyy on we're putting zelenskyy on a pedestal forgetting is pedestal and forgetting this is the of the most the leader of one of the most corrupt countries in world corrupt countries in the world should producing should really be producing british weaponry there , british weaponry over there, which is a lot there. so i wouldn't call it idolatry all. i think that's completely the wrong but if zelenskyy wrong word, but if zelenskyy is on i think that's on a pedestal, i think that's the place him the right place him to be because i think has because i think leadership has been is actually been phenomenal, is actually kind consensus across kind of a consensus across political spectrum about that and very interesting. and it's very interesting. alison's previous article, i think one thing we can all agree on is we don't know what will happen next, but it's clear that any uk government before or after election truss after general election truss johnson sunak or labour will go

as far as it possibly can to support zelenskyy without having a direct confrontation with putin. and i do say putin because our our fight is not with ordinary russian folk. quite. and i say it with the leadership, but it is not our fight. yeah well, we're not a war. no, we're not war. and i'm very glad we're not at war. but it is still moral issue. and that's why i believe level of support is going to be wrapped up because we're making pledges now perhaps six or nine now that perhaps six or nine months when really conceived months ago when really conceived of. course, the we know of. but of course, the we know the is going on three months six was a year. could it be two years and clearly putin has stepped and he's had to adjust his agency . now it looks like he his agency. now it looks like he might now settle trying to partition part of the country is still a completely wicked act, but i'll come back to my starting point, which the british government, whoever is in going to have to in charge, is going to have to keep level of militarily keep upping level of militarily and personnel support up to the point that ukraine because it is

in conceived of all for the west and for europe that ukraine does not win but is interesting to me, sebastian, the idea that the only way for this war to ever be overisif only way for this war to ever be over is if ukraine wins, who's pushing for peace ? well, i mean, pushing for peace? well, i mean, i think i mean, victory is i mean, i probably what will happenis mean, i probably what will happen is both sides are going to declare victory. i think all that we i think we don't need to concern ourselves with what ukraine wants and what russia wants, because as a secondary concern. but we need to be concerned of what do we want as the alliance, as britain. the nato alliance, as britain. and we want is an and i think what we want is an end to conflict seen as and end to this conflict seen as and for to not so advance his for putin to not so advance his position it's a threat to position that it's a threat to ukraine the west going forwards. i would call for sitting down and talking and, looking for a peace arrangement, but i don't think calling think many people are calling for that right now. that was the former editor labour list, peter edwards executive editor edwards and the executive editor of critic sebastian of the critic sebastian millbank. both for millbank. thank you both for joining more to joining me today. plenty more to come on my sense come this afternoon on my sense crusade. the i have a sit crusade. after the i have a sit down with historian david

starkey on why he believes universal human rights do not exist. as we delve into the ongoing on whether uk, uk ongoing on whether the uk, uk should leave the eec off . but should leave the eec off. but first, let's have a short break to see what this year on gb news live will be keeping you in the picture, finding out what's happening across the country and finding out why it to finding out why it matters to you. we'll have the facts fast with team reporters and with our team of reporters and specialist correspondent . specialist correspondent. wherever we'll wherever it's happening, we'll be there in 12 noon on tv radio and online giving news. the people's channel news .

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robinson. on your tv, online and. on your wireless. just before we move on to our next topic before break, we were discussing the tavistock gids clinics, a department of health and social care spokesman has a message of saying young , who are message of saying young, who are questioning their gender identity, deserve our compassion and support and we must ensure all services are acting in the best interests of . children. nhs best interests of. children. nhs england recently consulted on a new model of providing children's agenda services informed the work of a cas review . the department of health review. the department of health and social care supports the work of nhs england is doing to improve their service offered to transgender patients in the nhs. and we welcome dr. carson's latest advice . now there's been latest advice. now there's been a lot of talk about human rights in the news this week. former conservative prime minister sir john major warned against rishi sunak's alleged plan to leave the european convention on human rights if his plans to control illegal immigration blocked. also, the scotland prisoner row continues as scottish prison

service . transgender prisoners service. transgender prisoners will be initially put in jails corresponding to their biological sex. a recent review alleged that the transgender double rapist isla bryson being put in a female prison did not put in a female prison did not put female prisoners harm. some would that this policy from the piece will infringe on the rights of transgender prisoners . but this all begs the question what are human rights and our current understanding of them based on fact or fiction . well, based on fact or fiction. well, ispoke based on fact or fiction. well, i spoke to historian and broadcast dr. david starkey about this a little earlier. david what do you think of john major's comments? should relieve the ehcr of these ? well, there the ehcr of these? well, there was a very very interesting remark by roger scruton, the late, great roger scruton, who said john major was an experiment having a completely . experiment having a completely. prime and i think that john major's comments illustrate the problem in, having a fundamentally uneducated ex

prime minister by uneducated you mean didn't go to i mean, he didn't go to it. i mean that he has never had a serious absence , thought politics is partly about the understanding of practical , the ability to deal practical, the ability to deal with people. but fundamentally is about ideas and if you get somebody with no sense of the world of ideas and you get the kind of tory party a party with upset no notion . of what upset no notion. of what conservatism or indeed any other ism , let alone human rights . do ism, let alone human rights. do you think human rights exist ? i you think human rights exist? i think human or rights exist within specific legal systems . within specific legal systems. the great problem is when you come up with this bizarre notion of universal rights, now, you would be perfectly prepared and

indeed, i imagine , have the indeed, i imagine, have the nofion indeed, i imagine, have the notion that there is such a thing because you believe in a deity outside of an individual person . no individual person person. no individual person personal historical cultures who embodies things. i don't i would suggest that the us. in that convention what words arbitrary i would say that pointing all the way back to the ancient works to the church fathers but also to the ancient idea of property rights. i would suggest that perhaps goes further . property rights. i would suggest that perhaps goes further. hobbs and , what were locke's and locke, what were locke's universal liberties? there are very few life liberty and property . these apply to property. these apply to everybody . what we've done everybody. what we've done instead . in following 1945, we instead. in following 1945, we started produce intensely such low rights. and the problem that is the notion of rights

inverted. what they thought they were doing was you meet every other individual against, the overweening power of the. after 1945, what they did they focussed on small group rights. they focussed on the rights of minorities . now the moment you minorities. now the moment you do human rights, find themselves stood on their head rather than protecting the individual. they require shoot practises of state power. this answer in scotland, every ordinary person thinks that this woman who was a man who can only be really disgusting . the photograph that disgusting. the photograph that really struck she was wearing tights and you could actually see people showing through their pockets. a bloke because it's a man and it's a physical and child functioning . but everyone child functioning. but everyone with common sense knows and with

a common sense, unlike knows that it a common sense, unlike knows thatitis a common sense, unlike knows that it is and we are required perform these lunatic self—denying routine . now, self—denying routine. now, frankly, i think that the denial of reality is the basis of human catastrophe. the moment you do that , once catastrophe. the moment you do that, once you catastrophe. the moment you do that , once you actually start that, once you actually start this mini series of this right that the other right and again nonwhites the right to the right to accommodation the right the right to education the right to this that the other do not want you finish up with you actually up with no scope for democratic government at all. everything becomes a matter to be determined by judge years to be determined by judge years to be determined by judge years to be determined by committee whatever and i'm sorry leads us in a position where the thing that was supposed to protect the individual that was supposed to protect free them above all to protect free them above all to protect freedom destroys it's anti—freedom . it's anti—freedom.

anti—freedom. it's anti—freedom. the moment again that you have a nofion the moment again that you have a notion of victimhood as the arbitrator of rights but who determines that all victimhood is totally arbitrary? it's merely the chattering class. but it's not just arbitrary . absurd, it's not just arbitrary. absurd, isn't it? well, it is often absurd , and i think people see absurd, and i think people see that. so is that good? because it exposes itself in situations like this one in scotland. i've going to resort to the snp, the scottish nationalist party, while writing in the polls , one while writing in the polls, one hopes ruined their chance of independence. all of which independence. it go all of which i would applaud vigorously . but i would applaud vigorously. but the trouble is what i mean. let's pause in our mutual mutual delight a lot of this and ask another question what gives in its place. it seems to me that what we need to substitute for this absurd , irrational sue is this absurd, irrational sue is rational doctrine rights. we need to invoke our existing some the mental tradition of liberty

. we need to understand. i think that the entire structure of human rights laws is developed , human rights laws is developed, is flawed and is on an irrational foundation . which is irrational foundation. which is why it leads to the absurdities of sorts. why it leads to the absurdities that you can't stop illegal immigrants fly in visas to buy the fruits . and we see to buy the fruits. and we see what poor fruits of human rights laws are they universal utterly catastrophic . thank you, david catastrophic. thank you, david starkey. speaking about the earlier this week, nicholas sturgeon she regards herself as a woman. i regard the individual as a rapist a part of the three genders you're gb news on tv, radio and online and now it's time for a check on the news. here's bethany elsey . good here's bethany elsey. good afternoon. it's 3:32. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom.

the number of people that have died in earthquakes that have hit turkey and. syria has risen to more than 3000. it comes as turkey has ordered 113 suspect to be detained . connection with to be detained. connection with the construction of buildings that collapsed during the disaster on monday. some rescue operations have been in the country after reports of looting whilst hundreds of have been made homeless in the middle of winter . the labour party is winter. the labour party is urging the bbc chairman to consider his position after mps found he breached standards when applying for the role. a cross—party , says richard sharp, cross—party, says richard sharp, made errors of judgement when he failed to declare that he'd helped boris johnson to secure when he was prime minister. the chair of the commons defence committee urging rishi sunak to boost defence spending due to threats of a new cold war. tory mp tobias ellwood gb news. we need more money, replace

military equipment and, deal with aggression from russia and china. it follows reports that some nato allies are concerned about the uk's military readiness readiness and workers at heathrow airport are to vote on whether to stage fresh strike action after rejecting the latest pay offer. unite over 3000 of its members, including security guards, engineers and firefighters will begin the month long ballot on the 17th of february. union says the offer to 10% salary increase amounts to 10% salary increase amounts to a pay cut when compared to the rate of inflation. europe today on tv online in derby plus radio this is gb news colvin be back with you in just a moment.

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crusade. with me, calvin robinson. on your tv online and on your wireless , as i mentioned on your wireless, as i mentioned in my monologue to the church, england has been all over the news this week because synod the governing of the cev voted after a lengthy process to allow the blessing of same sex relationships . they're also relationships. they're also considering whether to stop referring to god as he after questions concerning the use of gender neutral terms raised by priests. this has caused a tidal waves in. the wider anglican communion . to discuss this, i'm communion. to discuss this, i'm joined by diocesan general synod member luke appleton and broadcaster and lawyer andrew eben. broadcaster and lawyer andrew eben . first of all, thank you eben. first of all, thank you both for joining eben. first of all, thank you both forjoining me eben. first of all, thank you both for joining me today. well, don synod, you absolutely owned it, but i so thank you for that. as a first comment. what do you think these comments about gender neutralising god . so gender neutralising god. so hello . basically, i was there in hello. basically, i was there in the chamber when the lady first mentioned this about gender

neutral terms for god and she later on during the end of that debate referred on several occasions, i think, to the holy ghost as and i would have thought she of everybody would want to use god's chosen pronoun . it seems bizarre that else has to have chosen pronouns apart from god who they are quite happy to meet gender. but the bigger issue to be honest with you is, is that there's no theological behind this is not nothing. scripture it's just merely trying to be sort of with it and work and, you know, connect with with the culture. and it is nonsense. and lots of people have had lots of people write me about it saying this, if this is what the church of england's about, just not england's about, i'm just not interested. i'm concerned interested. i'm quite concerned , we know that , the idea, because we know that what the bible say about people who about against who blaspheme, about against the holy so go against holy spirit. so to go against the spirit in that and the holy spirit in that way and synod interesting. andrew synod quite interesting. andrew what you of the idea of what you make of the idea of a gender neutral god? well, i think people recognise that actually is neither male

actually god is neither male female. i justin welby female. i mean, justin welby himself has pointed out that thatis himself has pointed out that that is the case. so then about the question of pronouns and what you should use, i'd say a bit of a nonsense if you flip between he and she and so on and so forth. but do you start with the premise that it is neither nor female? i think that's nor female? and i think that's recognised, isn't it? absolutely nor female? and i think that's r

stood up and you fought quite violently against the proposals that i talked about in the monologue about same sex marriage. well, and same sex unions didn't. the catholic has a quite clear statement on this . it was put to the congregation of the faith. does the church have the power to give the blessing of the unions persons of the same sex? and the answer back negative. was it back was negative. why was it not for the church of not as simple for the church of england ? well, i'm afraid the england? well, i'm afraid the church of england is talking out both because both sides of its mouth because the church you know, the church having you know, if you the think the you read the you think the church has for same church of england has for same sex but the church of sex blessings but the church of england agreed to that. england hasn't agreed to that. what church england has what the church of england has agreed to is blessing the individual like something from. yes, minister. and individual like something from. yes, minister . and they've yes, prime minister. and they've said brief the guardian said to the brief the guardian oh yes we allowing same sex but then to the anglican communion they preach the complete opposite. so if you look at the communion service, it says church england vote, senate church of england vote, senate votes affirm current doctrine votes to affirm current doctrine on on marriage. so they're trying to eat their cake, have

their cake and eat it. trying to eat their cake, have their cake and eat it . you know, their cake and eat it. you know, which to my is dishonest. well, i to agree. andrew, what are your thoughts on this? well i think it's very simple. i mean, the church and the testament has sort old, if you like, sort of the old, if you like, was the 1889 looks. monday and they sort of turned round and. it was charles gore at that stage. she sort of saying that actually, if you look at genesis, you don't have to take that as historical facts, the whole creation and whole thing about creation and so and, so forth. he said, so on and, so forth. he said, well, okay, it's absolutely word for and a very interesting for word and a very interesting piece read several piece i've read several interesting and it's sad interesting pieces and it's sad to that it is such a divisive to me that it is such a divisive issue. but bishop john wigan , he issue. but bishop john wigan, he was basically saying he used to on the side was that you should never have same sex marriages . never have same sex marriages. he's now changed his mind because he said well she's science and also the scriptures need to be reconciled. we need to look at new evidence and the bits and pieces about turning around say, well, it's not a choice to be gay, it's we're not quite sure why, but it's

scientific . and so he's saying scientific. and so he's saying that actually the most important thing is that you have love . thing is that you have love. it's same sex and it's monogamous and love is the overriding . and that being the overriding. and that being the case, i think the distinction between same sex blessing and actually going the whole way and having a marriage in a church. there should be no distinction. there's much to break there's much there to break apart. mean, he said it's apart. i mean, he said it's scientific, at the same scientific, yet at the same time, why. that time, we don't know why. that doesn't sound very scientific to me. the problem have with me. but the problem i have with your that said your statement is that you said that is not in error. that the bible is not in error. you said the bible is not god. it's because it's not literal. not it's not all right. and are bits of it that can be changed and updated i would and updated that, i would suggest a very orthodox suggest is not a very orthodox view. i want to put view. but but look i want to put to you, there were four bishops who only four who voted against only four bishops this. bishops who voted against this. it's measure . who are they and it's a measure. who are they and how? what do people now that how? what do people do now that bishops well of them was bishops aren't? well of them was jill davis. i have to look up the other three. i mean, she's very valiantly in favour of the gospel. the other the other to

be on board with, speaking out of both sides of their mouth. and this is very hypocritical position. i would just say that the people that spoke strong against doctrinal change in the chamber were themselves people that as being gay that identify as being gay christians. so idea it's sort of about you know these wicked conservatives against gay people is completely wrong the strongest voices against this were christians . and were gay christians. and actually jay knows and for very different reasons actually voted against proposals as well. so you know, from both sides, there really a lot of opposition to what the bishops done. i think they themselves a very they put themselves a very difficult to honest difficult position, to be honest . i to talk about . well, i want to talk about those individuals because they're here to defend themselves. see lot themselves. but i did see a lot of testimonies, of individual testimonies, people breaking down saying, people breaking down and saying, look, whole look, we've lived our whole lives, and strive towards lives, chaste and strive towards holiness. and i lived as the gospel tells us, to live. and you're undermining all of that and telling us actually, we could have got married all along and we could have had same sex union blessed of union blessed actually all of that been for nought. that hard has been for nought. that's sad. i feel like the

that's very sad. i feel like the lgbtq unity hasn't been consulte . it's enough in this process. what do you think? well, i think cause i'm just going back on your point about not taking everything literally and the whole about creationism, whole idea about creationism, i'm your personal i'm not sure what your personal views that, but it's views are on that, but it's moving around and moving on to turn around and say, actually, that's example of where bible's not taken where the bible's not taken literally for everything that's said. and that's basically accounts various people turn on different accounts from different accounts from different voices . if you lose different voices. if you lose leviticus 1928, one of the things it says is do not mark skin with tattoos. so all the people who've now tattoos and several of your viewers will have tattoos if that sin is as well. what happens in that sort of situation? okay. my point is also that there's multiple there as well. of course, when we go back to leviticus, leviticus has people often do when they're in these arguments, they're confusing ceremonial, ceremonial law moral law. and a lot of law with moral law. and a lot of thatis law with moral law. and a lot of that is not considering that the new testament is about the old law being fulfilled and to law being fulfilled and how to live within within live your life within within

god's law. however i won't get into all of that because. it's just the argument, just conflating the argument, but away this but it's taking away from this same here . luke, i'm going same issue here. luke, i'm going to let you address , if that's to let you address, if that's all , on this point. yeah, all right, on this point. yeah, definitely. i mean, i think that's the issue, isn't it? it always comes down to an attack on know, can we trust on the you know, can we trust the can trust what the the bible? can we trust what the bible has to say? and i would say, absolutely, we can. and my has been, know what? has always been, you know what? if was a strong if there was a strong biblical case same i would back case for same sex. i would back it in a heartbeat. but no, there was element where was one element where the bishop, bishop london, bishop, the bishop of london, who saying, who spent long time saying, we've done of theological we've done lots of theological was can you your was just asked, can you your working title please just one in a document you work things a full document you work things out. resisted the out. and she resisted the amendment that particular amendment on that particular issue, completely refused to . issue, completely refused to. and i would i would say that the last that we've been given, the synod members insulting. synod members are insulting. frankly, the frankly, no offence to the people that put them together, but really do not have huge but they really do not have huge theological to them. they're about experience about feelings and experience and that no other church and that is no other church should be doctrine. i tend should be doing doctrine. i tend agree. thank you both. we've got we've got to move now. that

we've got to move on now. that was diocese general synod was the diocese general synod member appleton member luke appleton and broadcast lawyer andrew broadcast and lawyer andrew evan. thank for time evan. thank both for your time today. evan. thank both for your time today . the grooming gang scandal today. the grooming gang scandal has rocked the country that many the issues behind it have still not been fully addressed. a gb news investigation seeks to restart national conversation about this and discover what went wrong and then what needs to change. charlie peters gb news is documentary filmmaker, joins me now. charlie, tell us about why you felt you had to create this documentary. first of all, well done. because it's fantastic. i think one of the best pieces of television we've put out on this station so far, andifs put out on this station so far, and it's very kind to say and it's very kind you to say the why i launched the reason why i launched my investigation into the national scandal is felt like we've never had a proper national conversation about this issue . conversation about this issue. when the lid blew off the scandal a decade ago, we never really it seriously. the conversation always sort of mealy mouthed. and i think full of crap and i was starting to become aware that problem still

around children was still being abused and the authorities failed so much in the decades before. what unfortunately, it's still fighting . so do you think still fighting. so do you think there'll be any accountability ? there'll be any accountability? what happened ? well, it'll be what happened? well, it'll be accountability once laws and new policies brought in where mandatory reporting is introduced to public officials and those who witness or hear issues about child abuse have to then report it up . chain of then report it up. chain of command. until that happens , it command. until that happens, it will always have an opportunity to look the other way, cover it up , fail to act. now true up, fail to act. now true accountability also comes the police are empowered to look into these issues properly and when independent investigations are launched in many, many towns that investigates visited during this investigation , we uncovered this investigation, we uncovered up to 50 different towns and cities. whether it incredible allegations of grooming gangs taking place and in exclusive

data statistics we shared last night up to 1000 new survivors have come forward since 2020. well, one charity we spoke to tonight you're the is currently deaung tonight you're the is currently dealing with up to 100 live cases as we cases that are going on right now . it's important to on right now. it's important to stress that these people only to the matthew oliver foundation , the matthew oliver foundation, they feel as though they are being fobbed off and ignored by the police. so they an the police. so they are an underestimate the much bigger, much more grave national picture. i think everyone should watch this documentary? i want to you. maggie oliver was a classic jane senior and samantha smith. their contributions because it was absolutely outstanding did not outstanding if people did not see it , where can they go to see it, where can they go to find it ? so see it, where can they go to find it? so the gb news app and it's on youtube as well. grooming gangs and. the shame. last night at 8 pm, i hope it restarts that national conversation really need. thank very much, charlie peters. now before we move on today. let's have a look at what you have been saying about the topics

we've discussed on the general synod says when the church of england decided to ordain women as dissenters joined roman catholic ordinary. do you foresee a similar situation arise as a god willing? lacey god willing, i do hope a lot of orthodox people find a way, whether it's through ordinary acts all through, if they want to remain anglican orthodox anglicans, they join the anglicans, they can join the gascon umbrella either of gascon umbrella for either of those options i hope those options on and i hope people do that and hold the church of england to account on. transgenderism angie says all children be the boys and girls were born as. while they are still in school until age 18. i think that's just common sense. angie, isn't it really? let boys , boys like girls but girls. and when they grow up into men and women, then they can make whatever life decisions they want. in ukraine, want. on the war in ukraine, anthony please remember anthony says, please remember that the gave up its that the ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons. the usa, uk and russia gave an undertaking to guarantee its safety. russia has violated that agreement . we are violated that agreement. we are therefore morally obliged to support ukraine in any way we

can. i am not going to comment on that. anthony thank, you for writing in there. thank you all of you actually for sending in your comments. protesters and trans clashed on trans activists have clashed on the of tate britain the steps of tate britain following the gallery's decision to host drag queen event for to host a drag queen event for children. families previously raised concerns about the gallery hosting drag queens to provide half term entertainment . protesters organised a demonstration the tate where they were met. counter—protests led by a coalition of trans rights . joining me now is former rights. joining me now is former eton teacher and cultural commentator will knowland. and still with me is broadcaster and lawyer andrew even. so should drag story hour be banned . drag story hour be banned. i think there's a strong case for banning it. calvin and the reason for that is this purpose would seem to be in children . an would seem to be in children. an attitude towards gender that could potentially be damaging. now academics want to have these

kinds conversations amongst themselves . why not promote themselves. why not promote these views to children . that's these views to children. that's one thing. but what is its purpose? if to suggest to children that there's fluidity in gender that a man can become woman and there's no material difference between two of them? i'm not clear what the of it is . well, how is it damaging ? to . well, how is it damaging? to put it bluntly, a man cannot become a woman , nor vice versa. become a woman, nor vice versa. and there are all kinds of potentially damaging consequences from that view. and theidea consequences from that view. and the idea that this is about free speech is a curious one, because iused speech is a curious one, because i used to work at the charity eton college , and the lecture eton college, and the lecture was deemed to gross misconduct for its content, argued the opposite point of view, which is the biological sex is immutable and can't change this. and that was too dangerous for. 16 or 17

year olds, very intelligence to hear because a member of staff found it offensive . and yet here found it offensive. and yet here are much younger children being presented with what seems to be the opposite viewpoint . the opposite viewpoint. interesting juxtaposition, very juxtaposition to andrew. i'm you would consider this art? i think well, i'll tell you what i consider. and i'd like to play devil's advocate. it's import. and as will points out in this patriarchy paradox, to make sure that you do get many different views expressed. if you go to the tate modern's , you'll find the tate modern's, you'll find out what this event is all about. rather than looking at the shocking headlines. and there's a drag artist called h.d. who's supposed i understand with adhd . and basically that with adhd. and basically that reading stories to children. and if you i went one of the things i went to this christmas was go and see ian mckellen , mother and see ian mckellen, mother goose and the whole panto mime season and form of people dressing up in drag as.

season and form of people dressing up in drag as . a form dressing up in drag as. a form of entertainment was exactly that. of entertainment was exactly that . the question which we need that. the question which we need to look at and i haven't seen any about it, is what material is being read. so if it's done in the form of entertainment that has got to be okay. and to turn around and address issues such as adhd diversity. i celebrating individuality is . celebrating individuality is. fine. if the material is not and it's a point that will touches on, as i say in that brilliant video which got him into all sorts of trouble, then i think that's the thing. we should look at and address that appropriately . interesting appropriately. interesting point. i want to state it's tate britain, not tate modern. so it's content that's it's not the content that's important. is important. the content is important, just the important, but not just the content. reading the content. it's who's reading the content. it's who's reading the content. the question keeps content. and the question keeps coming why do children coming up, not why do children need be read by drag need to be read to by drag queens, but do drag queens need to be read to by drag qu keenly ut do drag queens need to be read to by drag qu keenly to do drag queens need to be read to by drag qu keenly to read do drag queens need to be read to by drag qu keenly to read to drag queens need to be read to by drag qu keenly to read to children? ns so keenly to read to children? well, to ask you about well, i want to ask you about the media coverage around this, though, because even the though, because the even the daily the far right daily mail has the far right angle i've people holding angle. i've seen people holding signs our kids signs saying, leave our kids alone. strike as alone. doesn't strike me as particularly i even particularly far right. i even piers certain not

piers corbyn there certain not far right. can you tell us your take on how it's been covered so far is worrying you're right. the people who are rightly concerned there might be children who are too young for these kinds of ideas to be presented to them being to them. so if this is right, then what we've got is a really interesting thing shifting of the overton window. it's moved so far left the views that most would rightly consider common sense. now being described as far right and average man in the street will find himself labelled far right simply from standing still . while political standing still. while political discourse shifts and further left. you remember that j.k. rowling, for example received death threats and seen as a far right figure by, many for just saying that there really is material difference between a biological woman and that the trans woman. it comes to bringing common sense back. thank you much for that. that's former eton teacher, cultural commentator will knowland and broadcaster and lawyer andrew .

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