hello though, welcome . i'm hello though, welcome. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories . the gb newsroom, the stories. the gb newsroom, the military has shot down another high altitude object over huron in michigan and anonymous senior official says object had octagonal shape was unmanned and travelling about 20 farrells in ft . but it's unclear whether it ft. but it's unclear whether it had surveillance capabilities . had surveillance capabilities. it's the fourth time an unidentified object has been brought down over us and canadian territories in recent days. the first one was a suspected chinese spy, but officials say they're still analysing the wreckage . the analysing the wreckage. the number of people been killed in the earthquakes that hit turkey and syria on has risen to 33,000. officials say the window

for finding survivors is closing, but several were pulled from the rubble today, including nine year old boy. he spent almost a week under a collapsed an appeal by the uk's disasters emergency committee raised more tha n £60 million in just three than £60 million in just three days. than £60 million in just three days . a girl and boy, both aged days. a girl and boy, both aged have been arrested on suspicion of murder following the fatal stabbing . a 16 year old girl in stabbing. a 16 year old girl in a park in cheshire. brianna gay from warrington was found by members of the public with serious injuries on a pathway near culture linear park yesterday afternoon emergency services arrived she died at the scene the labour party is urging the bbc to consider his position after mp found he breached standards when applying for the role. a cross—party committee , role. a cross—party committee, richard sharp, made significant of judgement when he failed to

declare that he'd help boris to secure a loan when he was prime minister. culture secretary lucy powell questioning whether he's still able uphold trust and independence in the broadcaster. i think this report it really is an unprecedented report means that mr. sharp's position is increased untenable and he really should now reflect on whether he's able to carry that very important role as bbc chair to uphold public trust and independence of the bbc , you're independence of the bbc, you're up to date on tv , online and dab up to date on tv, online and dab plus radio. this is tv news. now, though, it's time for headliners . headliners. hello i'm stephen allen and welcome to headliners. joining me tonight are , the joining me tonight are, the ofcom complaints, simon fanshawe

and the oft complained about lewis . i and the oft complained about lewis. i keep complaining but he's still here. let's take a look at tomorrow's front pages. we start , first of all with the we start, first of all with the times, water firms to be spared threat of times, water firms to be spared threat 0 f £250 million fines. threat of £250 million fines. the guardian labour condemns catalogue of waste on government credit cards. the daily mail secret plot to unravel brexit financial times china balloons crossed taiwan airspace very frequently. the eye says sunak facing tory rebellion over sewage in uk rivers. finally, the daily star. sewage in uk rivers. finally, the daily star . phew! la la sewage in uk rivers. finally, the daily star. phew! la la uk. hotter than the city of love. 15 degrees. valentine's day and those with your papers . it's those with your papers. it's jump those with your papers. it's jump in and begin with the front of monday's times. jump in and begin with the front of monday's times . what are they of monday's times. what are they going with.7 well, i like oft complained about lewis schaffer. i that any attention to me i like even it's that kind of horrible thing . more of that horrible thing. more of that don't you worry i anyway. water

firms to be spared threat of £250 million of fines. it was. it was 250,000 fines. i think , i it was 250,000 fines. i think, i think i think basically because they they gave the british government gave the water to foreign companies to run that they're afraid that one would want to deal with them anymore if it went up want to deal with them anymore if it went u p £250 million, if it went up £250 million, which is which is a lot of money evenin which is which is a lot of money even in this country. and also it says that trust backers urged hutton to boost growth with tax cuts as if that's what we would done with liz truss , but not done with liz truss, but not necessarily with growth . but necessarily with growth. but before we get too far away from the water because that is interesting because the water because that is interesting becaus e £250,000 interesting because £250,000 fine was too small , wasn't it.7 fine was too small, wasn't it.7 you could trouser one of those. can you lose? well, if i were married, i could have. maybe my ex me my wife could ex wife made me my wife could put up with it. but the answer it not that much money, but it it's not that much money, but 250 million is very scary. and

maybe it'll never be issued . but maybe it'll never be issued. but why? if you were a french company , you want to buy a water company, you want to buy a water company, you want to buy a water company in this country, why would you want to risk it ? why? would you want to risk it? why? because thames water in 2022 and december 2022 announce they've made december 2022 announce they've mad e £440 million profits in six made £440 million profits in six months. and if you look at all the companies, all nine of them, they made the companies, all nine of them, they mad e £2.8 billion of they made £2.8 billion of profits up to 2022. the point that if you don't want to pay 250 million quid, don't pollute, it's really simple . don't do it it's really simple. don't do it because the 250 was ridiculous. i mean, that was small change. but i mean sewage and sewage , i but i mean sewage and sewage, i mean, if you're a water company, i mean, can't you just put could you just put a great or what's to stop the sewage through? do you want to know something ? you you want to know something? you hit the nail on the head is that these the sewer in this country? they always call the victorian sewer, the waterworks, whatever. and they don't they never say we're have to rebuild the roman roads, which are , you know, even

roads, which are, you know, even older. fact is that older. but the fact is that these sewers are built to handle sewer, not built to handle runoff . and they should they runoff. and they should they have to redesign the entire sewer system . that's the thing sewer system. that's the thing is at a time when the storm the water companies are allowed to let their water head out , normal let their water head out, normal water, which includes some floaties, that's actually what we're talking about. couldn't we couldn't we pick one place in britain that's no one likes very much and let it all go out there ? it's a brilliant idea. i'm not going to suggest where. but i was going to say, imagine the vote that that referendum. yeah, but know gang up you know but you know we gang up you know against essex or cornwall or lancashire or a point six and call on lancashire. i do have to say we don't want just using that as an example we could going up against one of them because to be enough of us to going up against and then going up against them and then they become the sewage they would become the sewage capital of britain. but has it been shown that been has it been shown that these floaters, as scientifically it , make up scientifically put it, make up

when there is a flood? i mean, there is excess water outage , there is excess water outage, discharge, make up enough of the solid material to actually cause some damage. and i'm not sure that it does . it's the constant that it does. it's the constant the constant stuff that causes i'm feeling ill. wasn't there a can remember the name of whoever it was but someone who was training for the olympic or whatever the events are now doing that now she's doing her training in because of the state of the water off the uk coast that she up in early in the morning to go out and practise and not the only in that and she's not the only in that water know the thing the water you know the thing in the water you know the thing in the water you know the thing in the water you might be water you know might be the remnants was tumbler is remnants of what was tumbler is remember the great satirist tom what they yes what they throw away in new york today they dnnk away in new york today they drink tomorrow jose. i think drink tomorrow san jose. i think that his you know it that was his lyric you know it like floats down east coast that yeah well these was yeah that's well these was san jose's the west that was a jose's in the west that was a comment that was a comedy song that wasn't a real song that longshore drift we could work out where they're all to end up. can we welcome this this the

thing i didn't really read this that that closely how that strongly that closely how are worried this this are they still worried this this is that's is like the water supply that's the any country the first thing that any country has to deal. that's what i mean. put a great output a great they're just stop the floaters or build a second airy water system to deal with that that's going all good suggestions . going all good suggestions. yeah. what's on monday's guardian sun? what are they going? well let's is going in is this thing labour condemns of waste on government credit and what they've done is they've gone to kind of wise and all the various you go through and they've discovered things like rishi went to venice in rishi sunak went to venice in july 2021 and stayed at the luxury hotel daniella and then at the four star hotel bond veggie . and with 11 officials. veggie. and with 11 officials. and they spent a total of £4,576, which is and they spent a total of £4,576, which i s £416 a room. i £4,576, which is £416 a room. i have to tell you i found some rooms on trivago and hotel principe, which is 2 minutes away from the station for pounds

away from the station for pounds a night. and even if you go on their you can ge t £499 a night. their you can get £499 a night. so quite why the government can't do that . also, can't do that. also, i discovered sharma he discovered that alok sharma he took his trips as president of cop26 climate summit cost taxpayers £220,000, 817. the cop26 summit. you will. well, it was in glasgow . yeah. i found was in glasgow. yeah. i found a three bedroom roomed house with in hillingdon on the south of glasgow with multiple throughout and a front and back garden. and he'd slept grand to pay the birthday that the charges . birthday that the charges. that's my the point is it's the classic thing it's a it's a good tactic and what they do is they set the government's over time and got these credit cards. they're just spending and the to the conservative government's response is when you started because you went you gave government credit counts in the first place and you go, yeah, no not having the cards love. it's spending on technology. it seem. you know what it didn't seem that saw numbers. one that much i saw the numbers. one of didn't see that

of the hotel didn't see that much. didn't much. much. it didn't seem that much. he the hotel rooms at he had one of the hotel rooms at £310 a night, for the £310 a night, which for the average person is watching, maybe that's much maybe they that's not that much money it's a lot of money for me. it's a lot of money. but for the average person who's on a business trip going place to another, going from one place to another, it's that also is it's not that much. and also is a reasonable that says a reasonable argument that says if you're going government if you're going to government business, you need do two things you well because you need to sleep well because otherwise point otherwise what's the point of going know going need going know i'm going to need to be do they lenny be secure and what do they lenny henry go premier inn. henry has to go to premier inn. so should be some sort so this should be some sort a hierarchy. have you tried to book recently book into premier inn recently then? yeah, it's cheaper actually. everybody they actually. everybody thinks they know i'm not. not is i don't know i'm not. i'm not is i don't that level of status at the notes on the front page the government ministers probably funnier than lenny daddy he steady on ferry of any man so let me henry thank you very much so i think think everybody thought it was an easy is it also mention of if andrew tate a reference though which probably means this is going to be banned off youtube just for saying his name is that right ? off youtube just for saying his name is that right? well, that's off youtube just for saying his n.thatis that right? well, that's off youtube just for saying his n.that was at right ? well, that's off youtube just for saying his n.that was in right? well, that's off youtube just for saying his n.that was in thet ? well, that's off youtube just for saying his n.that was in the guardian hat's off youtube just for saying his n.that was in the guardian and; a that was in the guardian and

you will not hear me support andrew tate which is shocking normally is such a contrarian you will not hear me support him i will let i will not say anything good about tate. but what's happened is that according to prevent which is, i think the anti—terrorism group right, if i remember correctly , right, if i remember correctly, and that their goal is to check terrorism, they're lumping andrew with all of the to get to later. okay now . let's take later. okay now. let's take a look at monday's daily mail . look at monday's daily mail. what have they got? well, according to the daily mail, it's a secret plot we had. we're not the information about this . not the information about this. there seems to be a secret plot to it doesn't seem that to brexit. it doesn't seem that simple, that secret, because it seems like is unravelling seems like brexit is unravelling . and i think the end that there was a plot , frost . and i think the end that there was a plot, frost said . and i think the end that there was a plot , frost said there was was a plot, frost said there was plot by remainers to undo to undo it. and it's not that much of a secret. it's on the front page of the daily mail . so on page of the daily mail. so on one thing, when i said lord

frost is kind of i mean, this is his thing, it's what he does. every couple weeks up every couple of weeks he pops up and oh, deal and he says, oh, that deal i negotiated, it's terrible. it's undermining brexit go well, negotiated that love. so why complaining that i think the thing lord frost is he's kind of invested in brexit and as we all know as you write the part it's not yet i'll give it the benefit of that is not yet delivering will it ever deliver. that's the point but you can go on and on and on having, you know, all these various things you could go saying, well, actually , go on saying, well, actually, turns going to unravel go on saying, well, actually, turit's going to unravel go on saying, well, actually, turit's just going to unravel go on saying, well, actually, turit's just not going to unravel go on saying, well, actually, turit's just not goinit to unravel go on saying, well, actually, turit's just not goinit has nravel it. it's just not how it has brexit not saying i don't i didn't support brexit because i believe in staying together i know what happens when people get divorced. it's a really bad thing. of those people. thing. i'm one of those people. you're but i'm totally you're scottish, but i'm totally your scarred. i am scarred by harm done about it. i mean, i the idea that brexit is about your divorce. would you like to talk? well, it is the same thing. we were married thing. we were we were married when the british were married to europe quite a while. and europe for quite a while. and i think brexit has delivered. i there's a sense of independence

that the british people and that the british people have and i think that's they did it, they, lied about there's they, they lied about there's going to be money it money going to be money in it money for they, they weren't for the nhs. they, they weren't doing the money. most doing it for the money. most people who voted they would just doing be rid those doing it just to be rid of those europeans. yeah. but i think it's it, that if it's an irony isn't it, that if you you're right you if i think you're right i think lot of people were think a lot of people were saying don't trust saying we don't trust the government. government saying we don't trust the goveranhese government saying we don't trust the goveranhese there's rnment saying we don't trust the goveranhese there's a ment saying we don't trust the goveranhese there's a men of doesn't. these there's a sort of political they political in elite and they don't about us and that's don't care about us and that's somehow identified with europe and so we to and i get that and so we want to and i get that the irony of it is that a group of people got together and ran a campaign brexit who precisely were political elite and were the political elite and it's not delivered. so there's a terrible irony in that for people voted brexit, that people who voted brexit, that part but end part is the irony. but the end of the it's about britain and britain wanting to be british. and even if and it's look, it's in your marriage. louis, you were louis in the marriage you britain or were you france . no, britain or were you france. no, i was . i was. and what did you

i was. i was. and what did you do to patrol your border ? i do to patrol your border? i think whatever it is, i think there's this just shows there's always going to be okay . and now always going to be okay. and now let's take a look at what our friends, the daily star, have go for. simon few la la. the thing about this is it's apparently on valentine's day which i think is to still wed something like that. it's going to be very hot, apparently, but what i don't understand about this story is who made the decision look lovely as he jolly chap on the but why him there's in the story that explains that we can find out who guy is. could he ring in this is this is sam smith i think it all is it all of sam smith . well, there's a lot to smith. well, there's a lot to say . if sam smith wants to be say. if sam smith wants to be called day, which means to me he's , the smiths. called day, which means to me he's , the smiths . good, good fun he's, the smiths. good, good fun might not technically be up there in. terms of the we had a little chat about the grammatical nature of the word they earlier on but that's what happens around now that's see

happens around it now that's see front after front pages out of the way after the go behind the the break we will go behind the covers talking an covers we'll be talking about an impending invasion disturbing of illiteracy in education, not lewis and why we may be failing our science lessons in the future. we'll see you there .

welcome back to headline is with me allen louis schafer and simon. so monday's telegraph louis and after the us and canada shot down balloons it looks like this is a really bad time to be richard branson there china have it's this is the news the news is tiny china prepares to down an unknown flying object the coast according to the telegraph and it just seems that the chinese been putting up others they've been putting up relentlessly across the straits of taiwan which leads to taiwan

that island there and also north above korea . and i think i think above korea. and i think i think basically what they're is they're saying that's not our balloons, that we're shooting down. this is it. these are the china is guilty the most amazing thing is in you know this and i think you know this because i'm with the smartest people here right now is that the prevailing winds make it kind of impossible for to from any for balloons to come from any other direction except china. all the winds come from across china across the sea out towards japan and america . but we only japan and america. but we only we knew that the first one of this saga of balloons was a balloon. since then, they've just been unidentified flying objects . so, i mean, is this how objects. so, i mean, is this how it happens ? well, is well, it happens? well, is well, there's typically always joan rivers saying that , you know, rivers saying that, you know, the thing about ufos is they never land harvard, you know, never land in harvard, you know, they land in rural areas they always land in rural areas , some kind dungarees, whereas the one they shot down here was on shandong province and shang dong, a from being the

birthplace of confucius , this birthplace of confucius, this had the biggest chinese buddhist temples and also has the most mystical taoist mountain. so clearly there's a fact that the. but the thing the other thing this do that is that the weather balloon the chinese said that the weather that the americans shot down was blown off course. back to your point about the prevailing . my point is, if was prevailing. my point is, if was a weather balloon wouldn't , it a weather balloon wouldn't, it have known which way the wind a win win. but for goodness sake, bob dylan, a round of applause from dylan . yeah, covering a lot from dylan. yeah, covering a lot of ground . i know that cheng of ground. i know that cheng dong plays is up by korea, is up by japan, but it's on the right well, it's in coast. it's about up to third of the way down china. but the thing this is it does sound like a huge children's going badly wrong. does that mean balloons that kind of go 50 shape of a number so it's just someone's birthday. it's a hidden there's also the that you know what the news is the one thing happens then the newspapers for other newspapers search for other examples it. i know a friend

examples of it. i know a friend who is was doing a bit of research the trump research during the trump administration or administration like three or four balloons from china that was not needing to be was spotted not needing to be shot they never shot down because they never made the same way. but made the news the same way. but they narrative. as in they could be a narrative. as in biden's enough biden's not strong enough against that's why biden's not strong enough agwast that's why biden's not strong enough agwast in that's why biden's not strong enough agwast in america. that's why biden's not strong enough agwast in america. and s why biden's not strong enough agwast in america. and then! it was big in america. and then we drank that saying we drank from that saying actually bit of information has been disproven that is there been disproven is that is there were no balloons during the dunng were no balloons during the during trump administration that was just said i'm sorry was that rude of me for doing that i think that was inappropriate. right. well fact check. well, we'll have to fact check. the fact check. can we do a triple fact check. can we do a triple fact check. can we do a triple fact check you like it's elided hasn't it the balloons to hasn't it from the balloons to the ufo. what kind of word is that. a lighted. it's a very good word. monday's daily mail sighs. i mean, over head this show i am far in over my head. i'm working with the quality is too high. no, but this a sort of true syrian trick . what you do true syrian trick. what you do is you go, this is a terrible is a syrian you do this classic

thing you go i'm very stupid. it's this is terrible story, blah, blah, blah. then you up with something really intelligent like . the prevailing intelligent like. the prevailing winds of the chinese i didn't even mention the jet stream which was well covered by the by the japanese you world to war think you've been discovered she's in big words here which i think is unfair slightly says what he is about monday statement and brexit was like a divorce and it does not that the uk is just about ready start putting it about again. it indeed. so what happened here? is this up ? indeed. so what happened here? is this up? there's a programme which is called the horizon science group. basically it's a massive that gives out grants to scientific projects that across countries. so you're not an associate or you're not in the eu, you don't get the money because you have to be in the eu. so obviously brexit happened then. the idea was britain was going to renegotiate an associate member of the horizon project . what's happened is project. but what's happened is that that eu is gone. well, you want this really badly, don't

you. and britain's yeah. you. and britain's gone. yeah. yeah want this we yeah we really want this we really this and. so they really want this and. so they went, okay, fine. so when it comes to the northern ireland protocol why don't you do protocol, then why don't you do what want then we'll let what we want and then we'll let you horizon programme. you into the horizon programme. so of a bargaining so basically bit of a bargaining chip, you'll chip, but at the same you'll remember sunak said chip, but at the same you'll renwanted sunak said chip, but at the same you'll renwanted to sunak said chip, but at the same you'll renwanted to be 1ak said chip, but at the same you'll renwanted to be a k said he wanted britain to be a scientific hothouse. whatever scientific hothouse. so whatever it and of course he's just it was and of course he's just created this new department for science, innovation and technology. the new technology. and so the new minister course has gone. minister of course has gone. it's outrageous. got to it's outrageous. we've got to have programme, but have the horizon programme, but basically it's a political wrangle. point . you wrangle. it's the point. you know, those talking, it's better to team up with japan to actually team up with japan because stereotypically imagine that's like the cutting edge of technology whereas european scientists all trying to invent the super soldier and make captain america cool fun. that's not that's chicken, i say. yeah, yeah. so i just said it's not true. okay. was it did you say it was marvel films and it's very i don't know. i don't know if japan is centre of it anymore and definitely a lot further away than than europe was. and we had a tremendous relationship . europe. the problem is when

you go in there saying we have to be part of that work i to be part of you that work i was of the royal society whatever is sir adrian smith said his first first job as a science secretary must to secure association with europe which which gives you a negotiating position just as a horrible negotiator. and what i love too is that the response of michelle donelan who is the new head of the department of science innovation technology says. and so if we don't do this will go and make the united. and make a deal with the united. well was what was said when well that was what was said when brexit there still brexit happened and there still is with united is not a deal with united states. the states. and if you watch the state union address the state of the union address the other day, all biden talked about american, american, about was american, american, that american. the next american. fourth he american. the fourth thing he is unlike suddenly unlike, they suddenly go, oh, yes, we'd love to give of yes, we'd love to give some of our money to british our money away to british scientist we're doing an scientist when we're doing an american first policy the american first policy under the guise being terribly guise of being terribly progressive democrat . right. progressive and democrat. right. but the end. at the end of but at the end. at the end of the people do like the day, people do like associating with each other in europe will associate with britain. it's in their best britain. if it's in their best interest. we just have to we

just to like lay back but just have to like lay back but it's we are it's science fiction. we are kicking to from a political kicking back to from a political football, shame yet football, which is a shame yet monday's guardian lewis and kids these days so bad at adding these days are so bad at adding up spelling some of them up and spelling some of them would even fail a month's exam. yeah is the deal it's yeah well here is the deal it's a million. a quarter of a million. i children enter secondary school without basic maths and english which is it's harder obviously it's much harder in this country because in america we have math is just one and here you've got maths and but but it says in 2022, 41% of year six pupils, which i think is like 17. no no. yes. six. it's primary school . yes. six. it's primary school. so is it 55 to 11. so if you think of year five as one, then it turns out you're 11. you know what this so embarrassing because i actually love making the points because i can do the math well. what year is year six people? well, that's the people are going to go into secondary school. when you go into secondary school at 11, i thought, that oh sixth

thought, isn't that oh sixth form? i got that confused. yeah, i kids. is this you know i got to kids. is this you know what it is you think you think that is like to that this stuff is like to people what people people don't know what the going on anyway. the hell is going on anyway. says 41% of these kids. however are go into secondary are about to go into secondary school . they meet school. well, they didn't meet the expected standards. 41. i mean, it is horrifying . it is mean, it is horrifying. it is horrifying because something happened, which i'm not quite sure what in 2020 and 28 and 21, what could have, what could have prevented these people from these young people from knowing anything. and the answer is that we brought it on ourselves with a complete utter panic and we failed to do additional to try and get kids back up to the level that they would have been if they hadn't have had them right. would have spent right. and we would have spent more money, which would cause even greater inflation, would have the have caused other problems the whole thing was a mess. and i predicted everybody out predicted and everybody out there said in march of there knows. i said in march of 2000 to 20, this was going to be horrific and whatever in the pandemic is . in no way you going pandemic is. in no way you going to make up for this. you know,

you're a guru. i'm to i'm going to immediately put on a saffron robe and get some symbols and tell you that, hey, you should do i do that. well, do that. i will do that. well, what do like about this story, what i do like about this story, it points 41% of it says, as lewis points 41% of sixth year pupils and 2022 didn't have the standard of literacy in maths. this is go to the centre for social justice and that is 50,000 than was and that is 50,000 more than was in 2019, which means that even the centre social justice the centre for social justice went primary school. they've sure up their maths. they sure caught up their maths. they might point harry grundy's guardian and a counter—terrorism needed more terrorists of well this is one of these arguments so the government does i think will prevent and prevent as its name suggest it's supposed to prevent terrorism . so what they prevent terrorism. so what they do is that they've set up a series of things where they observe they watch, they try and spot the things that will turn into violence. and there's this kind ridiculous argument where one group of people go, oh, no, it's far right, far right violence . what's really, really violence. what's really, really bad. right. it's really bad. far right. but it's really bad. far right. but it's really bad nothing wrong if bad and there's nothing wrong if people no, no, no no

people go, no, no, no no islamist violence. that's really, think really, really. and you think actually and actually they're both bad. and what this thing and what you find in this thing and you stories they've you read the stories is they've got of double got there's a kind of double standard it comes standard because when it comes to looking at the far right stuff is it stuff accusation is that it includes broad a range includes far too broad a range of so there's all sorts of populist people don't actually argue violence it's just argue for violence it's just a bit unpleasant but when it comes to looking at the cancel of islamist laws i would listen as well when i i'm main lewis i'm not me. well when i i'm main lewis i'm not me . i'm me. but when it not me. i'm me. but when it comes to looking at islam as violence, then when you look at that very very kind of that very very narrow kind of jihadist that's the right. so the that the net is the argument is that the net is far from two too wide on the right. so shawcross the government commissioned this guy to report. he does the report to do report. he does the report . he says, actually, we need concentrate more on the islamist violence than we do on the far right violence . so then of right violence. so then of course, you know, then it becomes this would a sensible becomes this would be a sensible conversation why conversation saying, well, why don't concentrate on both and conversation saying, well, why don' don't oncentrate on both and conversation saying, well, why don' don't we entrate on both and conversation saying, well, why don' don't we havete on both and conversation saying, well, why don' don't we have an»n both and conversation saying, well, why don' don't we have an argumentd why don't we have an argument about definition and about and the definition and about and the definition and about trying to about what we're trying to prevent why don't prevent here, and then why don't we what causes

we try and find out what causes it course, what happens it the. of course, what happens is of one lot take is the daily of one lot take this the guardian takes this position the guardian takes the jolly the other position it's jolly annoying don't be annoying and i don't want to be blown up. so i'd rather be doing mess saying you're to mess saying you're trying to be sensible going to sensible you just never going to catch a good catch on. well a good conversation blowing conversation about not blowing us be a really healthy us up would be a really healthy thing to scared. what thing to do. i'm scared. what i'm going to say. louis, your thoughts on blowing things? well, some things need be blown up, wasn't . didn't they? up, but it wasn't. didn't they? didn't other article talked didn't the other article talked about andrew tate's role in this in the events later on in the in the programme yeah i believe that's on the subject . yeah. that's on the subject. yeah. okay well they had it they included in that in which we was asked that that's the argument is that they're including people i despite disgusting and i mean despite disgusting and horrible andrew might be and horrible as andrew might be and if saying anything , i'm if i'm not saying anything, i'm not i'm saying that. but not saying i'm saying that. but the point is he's not as far as i actually saying that i know actually saying that people bomb or people go out and bomb or whatever , whereas actually there people go out and bomb or whepeople whereas actually there people go out and bomb or whepeople on areas actually there people go out and bomb or whepeople on right actually there people go out and bomb or whepeople on right and ally there people go out and bomb or whepeople on right and oni there people go out and bomb or whepeople on right and on theere are people on right and on the jihadist right saying they should so that but that's what they should do. speedie hits on this monday's telegraph and

this one monday's telegraph and there's officer there's one officer on government should been government should have been trying from trying to people to work from home. well that's funny is the home. well that's funny is the home office is accused of failing close iran's lunch in office of the revolutionary guards of the revolutionary guards of the revolutionary guards of the revolutionary guards of iran and i mean there's it's been 40 years since there's it's been 40 years since the iranian won the revolution . the iranian won the revolution. and you would think that they would be working on this, that they wouldn't be in how they wouldn't be in office. how did them get it up did they let them get it set up in previous 20 years in office it's a charity . yes. so they it's a charity. yes. so they don't have to pay taxes and. i did just look up in the house of commons library and just to say that since ms. amina was killed in the first into september, when started , when huge protest started, 19,200 people have been arrested by the iranian regime and 516 people have been killed by the iranian regime, four of at least of whom were without proper . and of whom were without proper. and seven of the people who were detained are supposed to be

british, right? well bad news. part two is now over. but don't you worry , though, after the you worry, though, after the break, simon, we'll be discussing the virtues of mass suicide will provide his insightful mind on why women fall in love with murderers . and fall in love with murderers. and i silently weep inside i will silently weep inside inside .

welcome back to headliners. monday's telegraph. simon and it looks like someone's in a well and getting impatient about it. well well, this bloke who's called yasser , okay, narita, who called yasser, okay, narita, who was an assistant professor of economics and in he's a japanese person, but he works yale. and he said old people should embrace mass suicide . what he's embrace mass suicide. what he's saying in japan , 50% of the saying in japan, 50% of the population is over 75 and 30% of the population is over 65. yeah,

and this guy said that euthanasia should be made compulsory is not murder , you compulsory is not murder, you know, i mean, put but what i particularly love about this story is that so he says this thing and the reason he says is there's too many old people and therefore costing the japanese there's too many old people and there'a'e costing the japanese there's too many old people and there'a tonneing the japanese there's too many old people and there'a tonne and he japanese there's too many old people and there'a tonne and whateveryse there's too many old people and there'a tonne and whatever or state a tonne and whatever or whatever. well, but in the whatever. well, but later in the story, he says terribly story, he says he's terribly sorry he says he my sorry about this. he says he my remarks about mass suicide they were and taken were a metaphor and were taken out context should have out of context and i should have been about the been more careful about the potential connotations potential negative connotations . i mean, ijust don't potential negative connotations . i mean, i just don't see how he could have missed them . there he could have missed them. there are negative comments . yes. the are negative comments. yes. the sentence, too says they all want to kill themselves. yes, but the truth is about the japanese and i've heard this from many japanese that suicide is and i think i've got to be careful with this because i'm not japanese , but i've heard what japanese, but i've heard what i've heard that there's a lot thatis i've heard that there's a lot that is undercurrent of sewage side in the country that people can sort of gang up on each other and say, you know, you're not fit to be with and you

should maybe commit suicide. well, there is something called the police, apparently it the seppuku. i'm sure not pronouncing that right, but it's people can put me right on it. but is the act of disempowerment employed by dishonoured samurai in the late 19? yeah, exactly . in the late 19? yeah, exactly. going is clearly less than tactful i think he's basically he's basically saying what everybody in the country already knows . they've got a ritual of knows. they've got a ritual of actually killing, which is which is considered honourable. and we don't have here in this don't have that here in this country america someone might country or america someone might be. and someone dug up a quote from 2013 by somebody called taro aso , country's finance taro aso, country's finance minister, who said the old, they should hurry up and die . i mean, should hurry up and die. i mean, it's all together. yeah. i mean, as somebody over 65 now, as somebody i am over 65 now, right . have a as somebody i am over 65 now, right. have a bus as somebody i am over 65 now, right . have a bus pass, you know right. have a bus pass, you know , i'm in i'm in this tablet. i'm in this group. yeah, yeah and i would have been against this cancer. would have been against this cancer . but would have been against this cancer. but until you found that out, until i found that the very good friend of mine and so i was really glad that you had this story . i think about lewis

story. i think about about lewis found in the cliche box the telegraph is talking about woke things well because it is ridiculous thing you know and every time i these stories i get totally and i feel like i'm i feel like i'm a policeman looking at sort of naughty pictures the internet that i pictures on the internet that i need counselling after need, like counselling after deaung need, like counselling after dealing with these stories, which is , which is it says which is, which is it says basically they ask people, do you want to die? should they forcibly fire people for saying something at work? should they be fired from their job and one an 80, 90% said, no, you shouldn't fire somebody. and they said , do you think they said, do you think corporations they ask , do you corporations they ask, do you think corporations make a political statement because they believe it or don't believe ? and believe it or don't believe? and 90% said the corporation says don't believe it. so they don't they like this kind of pc. talk . but on the other hand, i for a fact that people like other people to be nice to each other and a lot of the peace and i can't believe i'm going to defend pc but sometimes you look at person you're glad that

at a person and you're glad that they a name that says him they have a name that says him or you can't tell or her because you can't tell and could be quite i find and it could be quite i find this because did a lot of this stuff in my day because i work with on how to diversify their talent . so the minute you say talent. so the minute you say you work in their diverse there's one group people say oh you know work work, work and there's another group who say, oh, marvellous mother, you know, so in this i'm in this so you're in this i'm in this territory a the thing that territory a lot. the thing that i about you're i always say about this, you're absolutely most people absolutely right. most people want life to be fair. they want other people to be treated decently and whatever can be done to do that socially. yeah problem this i this problem and what this i this this research does illustrate yet again it's imposition of it . so if you decide that the to be nice to people is for instance the heiress it the merits i'm not going to comment on the merits of the pronoun question yeah but if you say to people you will or even we're going to and therefore the social penalty not doing it is

quite strong so people don't know how to not it. what happens is and always saying this to chief executive directors, the dangeris chief executive directors, the danger is you divide the company or the organisation that's the problem imposing it so whatever you're going to do you need to do it in a way that engages people so that you recognise difference because that word diversity is about difference, but it's a problem is time and isn't always going to be imposed and an h.r. department, they've got an m next to the man and an f next to the woman and maybe they have different now. no, no. but wrong with asking but so what's wrong with asking them extend their to them to extend their name to give the rights and wrongs of doing the way which doing them? the way in which it's doing them? the way in which finding companies that finding is in companies is that that about that the sad thing about diversity , which is about diversity, which is about difference , it's becoming difference, it's becoming dangerously a tool of conformity. so it becomes set of prohibitions . so it's all about prohibitions. so it's all about what you can't and it's rules. and the thing about rules that we have to learn, we have to debate them, decide them, and then we'll accept them. and

often what happens is from the very best of motives people. put it in on top everybody and it in on top of everybody and then what you find is that they resist which is resist and it people which is not intention . what we'll not the intention. what we'll say of pronouns say about the idea of pronouns on badges, even in on badges, i'm not even in favour proper on badges favour of proper on badges because when go because you know, when you go a place someone's got their place and someone's got their name use name badge, i'm not going use that there's nothing that name. there's nothing creepier . someone saying you're creepier. someone saying you're doing i doing your own packing. yes, i am. sandra if you go on, stu's just. well, i live in brighton, so always forget to take so people always forget to take off their conference tags. you know what have you lanyards, those things. what what is really fun when you're really good fun is when you're in hi john. what in boots, you go, hi john. what is a conference tag lanyard. what is it. oh well a conference. a conference like a political conference . so, you political conference. so, you know, we'll do that on the separate podcast associated with this all of the words in the show , the whole move on mondays show, the whole move on mondays . so i'm in a lifestyle brand one of control was it crystals to sue the cover art, etc. well it was called looks lifestyle .

it was called looks lifestyle. the thing about this is we have to be a little careful with the story because this is a this is the good law project discovered some documents that suggest a minister that the new conservative the then conservative the then conservative chair hands was apparently approached by somebody he then them and they went into what was called the vip line you remember the vip line got much criticised so the case is that he have put these, these people with suggested that we're getting a leg up in the process the case for is no all you did is introduce this process the process is the same for everybody blah blah. however it is worth noting i think that looks life style , what happened looks life style, what happened was that they were to the this this vip route . april 20, 20. this vip route. april 20, 20. their account for the previous november, which is very few months before, shows that they had no employees they had no

previous record for producing ppe . and eventually that ppe. and eventually that 9 million items worth 20 million provided by looks lifestyle were labelled do not supply by the contract was worth 25.8 million, which implies that only 5.8 million of the contract could be used . well, so this is a this is used. well, so this is a this is going on and on and on, isn't it. i mean this keeps on cropping up . it keeps on. so cropping up. it keeps on. so what you're saying is what this thing is saying and saying a company didn't exist made company that didn't exist made stuff that couldn't be used. and even if it could be used basically had no purpose during the fake pandemic. and that's basically what it said, what it said. so one of the things said is that those companies and there are a number of these accusations we're given hand up and that they had an asos ation with the company which made it illegitimate. and the other side they a procurement they went through a procurement process were process because they were through there through a patch because there was panic they was a huge panic and they were throwing away. they had

throwing money away. so they had to throw money to pick people to throw money away. and i was away. so there's long and i was going it was greg hands going to say it was greg hands up but just trying to bring us back. oh, we did. again, i will say this. can i just say this ? say this. can i just say this? it just they made a long list of things which didn't help. okay which didn't work work as masks and gloves and vaccine vaccines to join to join with other things that did not work. vaccines, which is which is my going over on this. i'm actually i am again for these your job to stop me for the spin on steve you were just a room we tell you the microphones in on gas you know why didn't you just stop? because i was going on a rant there. i did try and move on. i seem to remember now you did do the list the reason you say lewis say you lewis stop and lewis you say you lewis stop and you read we need to do is you go and read we need to do is put him in an anechoic chamber so have hear so we don't have to hear these things and and over things over and over and over again. daily mail and

again. monday the daily mail and some women fall in love murderers. so there is hope for you yet. lewis you know what? there is hope. the problem there is hope. but the problem me i'm not a murderer. me is this i'm not a murderer. and so this is in the daily mail, the language and i don't even the language that you use isn't even english. it's like a dialogue of american. i don't even understand that your job is to stop . stop me. i do that to stop. stop me. i do that because. because i might say something that's completely offensive. are watching offensive. people are watching this i don't want to this thing and i don't want to say these things, but i'm forced to. i'm to get a word in to. i'm forced to get a word in edgewise guy. this edgewise next to this guy. this quy's edgewise next to this guy. this guy's he's he gets he's guy's bad. he's he gets he's lots words but they're very lots of words but they're very long. but it just makes long. exactly but it just makes it feel very small because we don't use these big aggregate waiting for us. i've turned i've turned on simon. i know you have love and. i love your english. we're not getting married . he we're not getting married. he asked me to marry him, and i said , and i'm not doing it now. said, and i'm not doing it now. anyway, he was doing so with forensic psychiatrist said there are five reason why some women fall in love with murderers and

the reasons gave they gave are is that the women are psychotic or they have a history of trauma or they have a history of trauma or there's some kind of weird saviour of the women. where do just these reasons which any guy who's ever been out with a woman knows completely not true. the reason it's not women are not crazy do you want me to stop me now? you know, you said i should stop you before you say no, no, i raised my hand. what i want you. i don't think i'm there the reason why they go reason to the according me why they go out according to me why they go out with psych why they go out with murderers is because they're in prison and these are famous they're celebrity hunters that women love people who are famous doesn't matter who they are. you but you're on tv, so and believe it or not, you want or something, you know, hardest thing is i'm looking at the audience right now because. they know love them, but i get know that i love them, but i get constant letters and consent. my mail here to gp mail that's sent here to gp headquarters gifts, cards . i

headquarters gifts, cards. i send them invitations , places send them invitations, places i'm available mainly mainly for murderers who to live up to their name . you know, whichever their name. you know, whichever direction it comes from. i don't care. but the point is women and women like bad boys. care. but the point is women and women like bad boys . and what's women like bad boys. and what's the ultimate bad boy ? it's the ultimate bad boy? it's a murderer was on this before he the best. he wouldn't know the suv- the best. he wouldn't know the guy. he's gay. he's got no clue. let's move on. yeah that's right. well, that's that part with we'll deal with all the letters. but he's avoided pain and after the break. and heartache after the break. lewis has one of the most pertinent questions our time is britain a nation of addicts? oh, i think know what the answer is going to be. we'll see you then then.

welcome back to headliners monday's times. simon during the pandemic , my schedule was pandemic, my schedule was tuesdays and thursdays were leg

day. i wasn't going to the gym, but realised you have to pace yourself on pornhub . and it yourself on pornhub. and it turns i'm not the only one, turns out i'm not the only one, you know, the only is nation is britain nation of addicts trapped in the. here's the interesting thing about this france because president macron said he'd do this when he got elected and is doing it well. they've done have they've done this. they have a digital certificate for viewers. so you cannot log on to a site unless you've got a digital certificate which can't say the word, age word, which says age interesting. louisiana, they interesting. and louisiana, they tried something similar and people want this free speech. it's to privacy and so on. so for us, the basic, basic thing, it to be this two things it seems to be this two things that on one that are going on here. one is the of addiction , and the question of addiction, and thatis the question of addiction, and that is adults getting addicted to kids and the second to port or kids and the second thing is the age of people the debate about age the second thing is the nature of the addiction is driving people according this is driving people to things are more and more extreme because the way in which works is that you need and more interest titillation , whatever. interest titillation, whatever. so it's leading to what what the

algorithm does and what the producers do is they produce stuff that so it normalises things choking. and what you find now that girls, particularly teenage girls, the endlessly reported now the degree of aggression that boys are exhibiting them and the expectations they have them are related to, not the real relationships. so, you know i find i when i was single actually i would admit to a mild level of addiction and i find this compelling and i find it sad. and i think we desperately to get out of it. yeah. lewis which is a suggestion. some, some form of patch. well i've never heard of this. so people like looking naked people . if like looking naked people. if you ever heard of such a service and you're and you're only six, i would i would say this is this is not going to ever be dealt with because we have a level of independence that the people demanding. this is all selfies. you can't take away because . you can't take away because. basically, 50% of all guys are

not having sex. more like up to the age of 30 or 40. there's like the level of among men is way down and even the level of inactivity with women it's being replaced by this . there'd be replaced by this. there'd be maybe rioting. yeah, but point is that the internet has introduced something which is put graphically by of the put rather graphically by of the commentators. this article says that thing about that actually the thing about internet it's the speed internet is that it's the speed with which it renews and the move, can move on and move move, you can move on and move on, she said. so we can't we didn't know how to turn the pages other words, pages that fast in other words, this towards and this people towards more and more and more and this and people you know the evidence here and eventually people people do stop i mean i know i don't believe this is like one of those like sex not fake stories the real straight people are about this but are really upset about this but it's it's like who they're it's like it's like who they're never going to get rid of it because not a male thing because it's not a male thing right 30, 35% of all women right now. 30, 35% of all women under the age of 30 are doing it. if you want to turn the page as fast, by way, just put a as fast, by the way, just put a fan side and monday's

fan to the side and monday's daily star and the field daily star lewis and the field where harry lost his virginity could have a blue plaque put up. as long as you for about as long as you put up for about 2 minutes, would even 2 minutes, that would be even more yeah, well, i'm more fitting. yeah, well, i'm young thing happens, young when this thing happens, so hold it against so you can't hold it against the suv- so you can't hold it against the guy. but i think they're going to put up they're going to put up my where's the story up a where my where's the story where i lost my where i lost my virginity at the mustang and how many ago was that last? last week? what i love about this is full of it's full of can i finish with my time? oh, i thought you had done i thought were going into a reverie. i thought you go a referee about losing in virginia. so back to that. losing in virginia. so back to that . then i losing in virginia. so back to that. then i was losing in virginia. so back to that . then i was done. it's losing in virginia. so back to that. then i was done. it's just one chance for to put one more chance for you to put youn one more chance for you to put your. when say when do your. but when you say when do your. but when you say when do you making me want you say to things making me want to what she said yet to say. that's what she said yet not doing much exactly. well, first walpole and aren't first of all, walpole and aren't they to a statue they going to erect a statue that the right that would not be the right thing do. that's an english thing to do. that's an english joke. also live you joke. but they also live you next door to where they did it is called cottage, which is what does in of does walpole mean in terms of

would explain to me? would you explain that to me? but the explanations the but the explanations are in the separate podcast , which we separate podcast, which we honestly record. lewis well , honestly do record. lewis well, why you have an american guy why do you have an american guy who love who barely because we love patronise . i gave myself that patronise. i gave myself that question week monday, question every week monday, scarlett had a woman who's scarlett lewis had a woman who's using buses to travel the using local buses to travel the uk. where does she go? well, we had to get off. she gets off every or something. this is every hour or something. this is this a crazy article. this this is a crazy article. but wait. is stuart but wait, wait, wait. is stuart lost train. what number is lost my train. what number is that there is. so that? 17. 17. oh, there is. so you want a biscuit? you totally. this is my worst, and i'm blaming it entirely. this is my worst, and i'm blaming it entirely . you. it's blaming it entirely. you. it's an amazing job see. you can ask the audience. they love me. lewis schaefer at twitter ali yes. anyway, yeah, it's this woman had this great idea because they the government instituted this, this because they the government instituted this, thi s £2 instituted this, this £2 tickets, right ? so a woman tickets, right? so a woman undertakes a trip from london to edinburgh using only £2 local buses. so said buses are going to be only pounds. so this woman thought, you know, that just for just for as we would say, for

just for as we would say, for just and giggles is that english phrase. yeah. okay although in america you actually mean blanks. don't yeah. you're so gun obsessed. we can say we can't . that word even in america can't. that word even in america , she says i'm going to take the bus there. well but i think it's a great plan. it a great plan. but we've got move on that's it for tonight's show. let's take a quick look around monday's front pages. the times water firms to be spared threats of pages. the times water firms to be spared threats o f £250 be spared threats of £250 million fines. guardian labour condemns catalogue of waste on government cards. daily mail plots to unravel brexit. the financial times goes with china balloons crossed taiwan airspace very frequently. the i sunak facing tory rebellion over sewage in uk rivers and finally the daily star few la uk hotter than the city of love 15 degrees valentine's day . got that to valentine's day. got that to look forward to. well, that's it for tonight thank you to my guest louis schafer and simon. remember if you're watching the

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