well hello there. it's 6:00 on michelle dewberry. and this is dewbs& co, keeping you company on valentine's nights right through until 7:00 this evening. lots to get into the covid 19 inquiry begins its first hearings. but get this , there hearings. but get this, there are already requests for a delay. do you trust that we're

ever properly going to have a thorough, robust, transparent covid investigation .7 do you covid investigation? do you think you'll get the answers that some of you are looking for ? are you shouting screen saying , forget it all, move on. why do we need to spend so much time, money and effort looking backwards? let's focus forwards. where do you stand on it all? and when it comes to schools, how tough should they be? how many rules , regulations, many rules, regulations, restrictions do you think that kids need in order to behave? there's one school in staffordshire . they get this, staffordshire. they get this, they've put bars , physical bars they've put bars, physical bars on their toilets during class time. personally i think it's a great idea, but there are many that are up in arms saying that is absolutely inappropriate. is it ? where do you draw the line? it? where do you draw the line? how much discipline and robustness do you think need? and do you struggle with your weight? what lens would you go to lose the pounds ? which weight to lose the pounds? which weight loss chaps sorry could soon be available on the high street. would you have them? would you

get them? what about these whole kind of shady corners of the internet? would you buy weight loss stuff from there? would you trust were getting and trust what you were getting and injecting yourself ? and injecting in yourself? and last but least . what class are but not least. what class are you? do you know? do you care ? you? do you know? do you care? most of those. many of those . so most of those. many of those. so that there's a huge class discrepancy. but how do we define class in particular? working class? is it still a thing ? are you in it? how do you thing? are you in it? how do you know? and do you ever believe it 7 know? and do you ever believe it ? we'll have all of that to come. but first, let's get ourselves up to speed, shall we? with list headlines with tonight's list headlines with middlehurst . with polly middlehurst. michelle, thank you and good evening to you. let's bring some breaking news from the last half hour here on gb news. tonight, the government says one british person has died whilst in ukraine. the foreign office has said the family has been informed and they are in touch with local authorities in the region. that's all the details

we have for you at the moment. one british person dying in ukraine. well, that comes as the prime minister announced a national one minute's silence to be held in the uk to mark the first anniversary of the invasion of ukraine on the 24th of february. meanwhile nato defence ministers are discussing support for the country in brussels, including the possible supply of fighter jets to kyiv. that comes after the alliance warned yesterday is seen a fresh russian offensive in ukraine, with the kremlin claiming that nato is prolonging the conflict . nato's secretary—general jens stoltenberg says the alliance will do all it can to help the war torn country . we need to war torn country. we need to need to ensure that ukraine and gets the weapons it needs to be able to retake territory, liberate their lands and win this war and prevail as a sovereign, independent nation . sovereign, independent nation. here to serving police officers will face moscow conduct cases over the way they handled

reports of indecent exposure. by sarah everard's killer. former met police officer wayne cousins is behind bars , serving a whole is behind bars, serving a whole life order for murdering sarah everard and has admitted three counts of indecent exposure , one counts of indecent exposure, one of which he committed just four days before her death. the independent office for police conduct says the new cases involve a met police constable and a kent police sergeant . the and a kent police sergeant. the northern ireland assembly has failed to elect a new speaker today, topping stopping new organ donation legislation from being passed . the dup vetoed the being passed. the dup vetoed the election again during recall sitting this afternoon. that's the sixth failed attempt since the sixth failed attempt since the election in may. in an ongoing protest over the northern ireland protocol . northern ireland protocol. meanwhile, negotiations between the uk and the eu to resolve differences over a post brexit agreements are continuing . agreements are continuing. university staff are staging the first of three days of walkouts this week, threatening

disruption at 150 universities around 70,000 members of the university college union. on the picket lines in an ongoing dispute over pay, pensions and working conditions, civil servants are also striking this week, including staff from the department for work and pensions and the dvla . department for work and pensions and the dvla. in department for work and pensions and the dvla . in the department for work and pensions and the dvla. in the united states, the white house says no group or individual has come forward to claim responsibility forward to claim responsibility for the three recent unidentified objects shot down over there airspace. it said there's no indication they were part of china's spy program. meanwhile the us military says it has recovered significant debns it has recovered significant debris from the site of the first suspected chinese spy balloon brought down off the coast of carolina ten days ago. beijing has denied the object was part of their government's spy was part of their government's spy system . in cheshire , spy system. in cheshire, detectives looking into the murder of brianna gay say they're investigating whether it

was a hate crime . the 16 year was a hate crime. the 16 year old who was a trans gender girl was fatally stabbed in a park near warrington last saturday. a boy and a girl both aged 15, have been arrested on suspicion of murder. police have been given an extra 30 hours to question both of them and a 22 year old man is in a critical condition in hospital after a machete attack at a pub in east london. the authorities were called to the duke in walthamstow . three men were walthamstow. three men were found with stab wounds inside the pub and a fourth was found nearby. three of the men, aged between 27 and 42, are in a stable condition. police believe the attack was targeted, but no arrests have been made . and more arrests have been made. and more than 41,000 people are now known to have died following earthquakes in southern turkey and northern syria. uk charities and northern syria. uk charities and organisations are sending emergency supply is worth more tha n £350,000. eight days after

than £350,000. eight days after the disaster and syria's president has told the united nafions president has told the united nations today he's happy to open two more border crossings for an initial three month period. so emergency aid can enter from neighbouring turkey . and lastly, neighbouring turkey. and lastly, the king has been meeting volunteers from the uk's turkish community today. volunteers from the uk's turkish community today . they've been community today. they've been organising , sending community today. they've been organising, sending aid to their home country after last week's earthquake . king charles visited earthquake. king charles visited a west london charity to see the efforts of residents working to help those left homeless in turkey and syria. the king told the local communities how deeply sorry he was . and during his sorry he was. and during his visit, the king was also given some turkish tea to taste. as well as making a brief stop at a nearby kebab takeaway . you up to nearby kebab takeaway. you up to date on tv, online and dab+ radio with gb news. back now to dewbs& co .

dewbs& co. thanks for that, polly. well, i am michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through until 7:00 this evening alongside me, i've got the political consultant emma burnell and toby young, who is director of the free is the director of the free speech union. good evening. you lucky people spending your night with me and our wonderful audience , of course. and audience, of course. and speaking of you guys, you know the drill. so it's not just about us right here. it's about you at home as well. what's on your mind tonight? you can get in touch. gb views at gbnews.uk or you tweet me. that's gb or you can tweet me. that's gb news. forget, want to news. don't forget, i want to talk you about class. what talk to you about class. what class a you doesn't even still exist, by the way, 8% of adults thereabouts there's thereabouts thinks there's a massive between the massive divide between the social in this country. social classes in this country. but how you calculate all who but how do you calculate all who sits where? me your sits where? give me your thoughts. the covid thoughts. also, the covid inquiry. do you trust it? do you think probably going inquiry. do you trust it? do you thihappen probably going inquiry. do you trust it? do you thihappen and probably going inquiry. do you trust it? do you thihappen and give|bly going inquiry. do you trust it? do you thihappen and give you going inquiry. do you trust it? do you thihappen and give you theg to happen and give you the answers you want? answers that you want?

discipline schools well. discipline in schools as well. how is too much? how little how much is too much? how little is not enough? i think really as much discipline the better of you ask me, but maybe i am wrong . get your thoughts and you can tweet me as at gb news. but tweet me as well at gb news. but tonight is valentines night. i've got my special valentine's dress on top and very disappointed to see it failed. but yes, if not, come dressed in red. very disappointing. i'm also very disappointed to hear that patrick christys received an anonymous valentine's day card and i received zero from any of you guys . what on earth any of you guys. what on earth is going on? and lastly , i'm is going on? and lastly, i'm also disappointed for another reason , because if you are reason, because if you are a regular viewer to dewbs& co, you've been watching for some time, you might remember this exact day . this time last year exact day. this time last year i reached out to you guys. didn't i do recall less? let's take a look. this day one of my production team piped up today to tell me that he was single producer richard . he's going to producer richard. he's going to be spending his valentine's

night alone. so he is. and he told me he was on tinder , but he told me he was on tinder, but he reckons that his tent is broken because i get any matches. because i don't get any matches. so are richard, look at so areas are richard, look at you. here is what i'm to do . you. here is what i'm to do. that is. yes, i can. very good. richard 24 richard, you are richard 24 richard, if you are a lady the london area and you lady in the london area and you see that fine specimen of mankind on your tinder, i give him swipe . well, the reason him a swipe. well, the reason i'm disappointed is because that fine specimen of man kind producer richard , ladies and producer richard, ladies and gents, is still single . so one gents, is still single. so one year on, what is going on? when i heard that news , i thought to i heard that news, i thought to myself, i have to try and help him out. so look at him. this dashing chap on your screens there. if you are listening, not watching, you're missing out. let me tell you that . that is let me tell you that. that is producer richard , i personally producer richard, i personally vouch for him. is a very nice man. you will not meet finer than him. so if you're sitting there thinking shut up about valentine's day, i'm michel because i'm single, you don't

need to be single. look at i'm available. get in touch. if i can try and him a match, can try and find him a match, it'll me happy woman it'll make me a very happy woman tonight. produce a richard romance for richard if you're interested. globe. interested. hey boston globe. emma. twice his age. emma. i'm also twice his age. well, i'll move on. enough if you're not twice his age . and you're not twice his age. and richard is your kind of chap. get in touch with me. that's fine. i'll find it. rich. i'm calling you richard. he's a young guy looking back. there are many riches out there that all of them seeking love. i you doing anything special on valentine's night i'm going to see qpr v sunderland at loftus road. see qpr v sunderland at loftus road . can't see my wife was that road. can't see my wife was that bothered about it? to be honest, i 21 is not is the height of romance. well done, toby. emma, any fun yet? i'm going to the cinema with my best and cinema with my best friend. and let's essentially my let's face it, essentially my life partner person. i spend most time with and we're off to see tonight. what movie see a movie tonight. what movie to watch to the top . yeah, the i to watch to the top. yeah, the i can never remember they are about to compose a very driven

woman . i thought it was about woman. i thought it was about word finishing . there was some word finishing. there was some sounds we were saying. anyway, let's move on, shall we? if you're doing anything interesting, ang, make sure you've got gb news on in the background. that is, you know, what's more romantic than this law in your ear? we're on the radio, by the if you want radio, by the way, if you want to out, you can take us with to go out, you can take us with you. don't forget that. whatever you're doing, have a wonderful evening. but stay tuned for now because i want to get because firstly i want to get into the 19 inquiry. it into the covid 19 inquiry. it began first hearings today, began its first hearings today, the first business. oh, the first order of business. oh, a yes it was. this was a delay. yes it was. this was apparently because to give them time to redact the names of junior officials and some of the information that perhaps could be deemed irrelevant . toby, i be deemed irrelevant. toby, i found out earlier on, i mean, i'll make out like i did some journalistic digging, basically just told me that you yourself have been touch about this have been in touch about this covid inquiry. do you trust that we're going get a thorough , we're going to get a thorough, meaningful, transparent inquiry for all this covid still ? well, for all this covid still? well, yeah, there was a public consultation about what the

terms of reference of the inquiry should be. and i submitted something to that consultation i said , i hope consultation and i said, i hope the inquiry looks into the public inquiry looks into the public inquiry looks into the suppression of dissent dunng the suppression of dissent during the pandemic, particularly the early part of the pandemic. people who criticise the government's pandemic response, particularly those who criticise the public health advice , social health advice, social distancing, masking, health advice, social distancing, masking , school distancing, masking, school closures and so forth. i found it very difficult to get a pubuc it very difficult to get a public platform on gb news, i should say, but on channels like the bbc, itv, sky news, the newspapers like the times and the guardian, that's why i set up at the time lockdown sceptics . dailies kept it to . now the dailies kept it to give a platform from give people a platform from which criticise which to criticise the government response, government pandemic response, or at challenge it and at least challenge it and question there might question whether there might be a response. worry a better response. my worry about inquiry , i mean, is about the inquiry, i mean, is there so much get through? there so much to get through? it's that it's it's disappointing that it's been mean, so been delayed. i mean, there's so much i the government got much i think the government got wrong. i mean, not sure they wrong. i mean, i'm not sure they should have locked down the first second first time, let alone the second time the third time. i'm time and the third time. i'm worried inquiry will worried that the inquiry will just look at whether we lockdown hard and fast enough for

hard enough and fast enough for not whether actually the not look at whether actually the lockdown response lockdown was the best response in place. they need to in the first place. they need to look at why patients were discharged from hospitals back into without being into care homes without being tested they were tested to see if they were infectious covid 19, they infectious. with covid 19, they need look at why 37 billion need to look at why 37 billion was spent on nhs test and trace when seemingly almost no impact. we certainly didn't stop us locking again. they need to locking down again. they need to look at school closures. they need to look at stopping people attending weddings. attending funerals and weddings. they stopping they should look people stopping , loved ones and , visiting their loved ones and care there's i care homes. there's so much i think the government got wrong in two and half, in the past two and a half, three years. i mean, this inquiry, i imagine, is going to go very long time. the go on for a very long time. the sooner starts, better. sooner it starts, the better. are you by this at are you affected by this at home, perhaps? i don't know. maybe you did someone maybe you did lose someone through covid. you sit here through covid. do you sit here filled trust, thinking? filled with trust, thinking? yes, i trust people yes, i do trust the people looking to give me those looking into it to give me those answers. perhaps on the answers. are you perhaps on the other of the fence? had other side of the fence? you had your life severely impacted your life as severely impacted by things such as lockdown, by the things such as lockdown, and the and perhaps you've got the concern as toby was just mentioning, step 1.1 of mentioning, that step 1.1 of this inquiry is just assuming

that lockdowns, etc. was the right way to go. where do you stand in all in in in terms of lockdowns? i i hated them , but i lockdowns? i i hated them, but i supported them. and that's a difficult position to be in. i you they impacted me very difficult in terms of my mental health. but i could see the rationale behind doing it as as necessary. i think we i think it would be only right and fair if the inquiry does look into that necessity as much as it looks into whether it happened too slowly . i think if people like slowly. i think if people like me think it did happen slowly, people like you question whether it should happen at all. both questions should be asked proper evidence should be taken . evidence should be taken. there's a problem i have with the will it you the answers the will it give you the answers you want ? response because you want? response because i think many people have got instinctual answers. they want to hear that they won't necessarily come to this inquiry. and the problem with an inquiry. and the problem with an inquiry is it won't necessarily give you as you want. it will

give you as you want. it will give the answers they find . now, give the answers they find. now, we do need to ask the right questions to make sure that those answers robust. but those answers are robust. but i don't think expecting the answers you want is the right attitude to go into any inquiry. i agree that there was an awful lot that got that went wrong beyond lockdown tests and trace, absolute disaster, complete waste of public money, appallingly badly spent other things that were appallingly badly spent, public money. and i think what i would what i really want to see come out of this are two things. first of all, why would we so underprepared but far, far more importantly, what can we do to ensure because the next thing won't be exactly the same , but how do we strengthen same, but how do we strengthen our emergency response to the kinds of emergencies that we might see coming down the track so that we can make sure that we have much more readiness for them? and how can we balance the need to enforce certain really

national things that laws that get put down with massive over enforcement of, for example, going after women, having a cup of coffee in the yorkshire dales of coffee in the yorkshire dales of the derbyshire dales, something that has to be a better. and i feel that one of the questions that i would like answered is how we policed lockdown and how that seemed to be almost lawless in and of itself. yeah. so in terms of if you are wondering what is this inquiry even going to look at, you've heard a few things about what it should look out, preparedness and resilience apparently is in there , how the apparently is in there, how the decisions were made, whom and decisions were made, by whom and how, where they all kind of implement the shielding and implement it. the shielding and the protection the clinically the protection of the clinically vulnerable mentioned in vulnerable like you mentioned in there, testing and contact there, the testing and contact tracing, the impacts on health and health care and sector workers, all the key workers is closure and reopening examples when it comes to schools and things on the list is pages long. what if those people out

that are being that are of the mindset look why are you banging on about covid again? it's happened now. you know, if we get a pandemic again, it's probably going to be a different type of whatever. why you spending you know, i to think how much this will cost how many years this will take, many years this will take, how many hours it will use up, if people are out there saying just move on, it, move on, look on, forget it, move on, look forward, would forward, not back, what would you them? well, i think you say to them? well, i think it's good question. i mean, it's a good question. i mean, the response is, well, the standard response is, well, we to lessons so we we need to learn lessons so we can better prepared next can be better prepared next time. the with that time. but the problem with that answer that we did have answer is that we did have pubuc answer is that we did have public inquiries into the government's response to previous pandemics avian flu, foot and mouth, and those public inquiries and that conclusions fed into the pandemic preparedness strategy which should have informed our response to this particular pandemic. but the government threw that strategy out of the window. it was panicked when it saw television footage, pictures in milan of people dying in hospital corridors. they saw

other countries around the world locking down. the who, urge countries to lockdown. you need to copy china and they panic through the pandemic preparedness strategy in the bin. and just immediately lockdown . so what's the point of lockdown. so what's the point of this inquiry if the next if our response to the next pandemic isn't informed by the lessons we've learnt from this pandemic? just as our response to this one wasn't informed by the lessons learnt from previous pandemics. yeah. and i think it's hope is spot on because this phrase spot on emma because this phrase lessons you hear it lessons learned, you hear it right public sector right across the public sector in so many different guises and actually you think to yourself what lessons have you learned? because actually things repeat themselves. problems seem to get worse often, not better . so worse often, not better. so quite frankly, the public sector has a very, very poor track record of learning any lessons . record of learning any lessons. hannah's just been in contact and said , michelle, i believe and said, michelle, i believe the inquiry will be honest because the government has too much to lose . well, the inquiry much to lose. well, the inquiry isn't being done by the government is being done by

parliament and some of that of people who are in opposition to the government. so i think that in terms what government in terms of what the government has lose , i mean, i'm i'm has to lose, i mean, i'm i'm happy to bash this government all day long. but i think in these terms, that's not the way that this this particular inquiry will play out. but that this this particular inquiry will play out . but there inquiry will play out. but there is a sense, i think a real sense that public inquiries take things into the long grass and then are not acted on when they get their. so i'm thinking of grenfell , for example, and so grenfell, for example, and so little of the recommendations of the grenfell inquiry have actually been enacted and we're still seeing leaseholders in high rise blocks in terrible positions , people living in positions, people living in appalling housing status because they're not having their housing sent to in ways that were completely recommended out of that inquiry . and so i think that inquiry. and so i think i absolute agree that there is a real problem in culturally and politically with the fact that we don't let lessons, that we do just try to move on. that

doesn't mean i think that's the right thing to do. i'd rather that we learn to learn lessons rather than shrug things rather than just shrug things off. well, you guys have been in touch. interestingly there's a lot of people that have this kind of views. the better says, what point? now this is what is the point? now this is just of money. dennis just more waste of money. dennis says, stop going backwards. let's just get on with it . there let's just get on with it. there are many more problems now, david says. i do not care. this is a waste of time and money. rebecca the says, i will never forgive the government for the lockdowns and what they did. children my 12 year old developed , my 12 year old developed, my 12 year old daughter developed anxiety at the beginning and she still battling it now. see, that's awful that i mean, that's just give me goose pimples because i do feel so strongly about the impact on those young people, lee says the lockdowns over covid destroyed this country, and in his view, he says, it will take 50 years to recover anything from it. the uk is finished for a generation and

harsh thoughts are . do you agree harsh thoughts are. do you agree with any of them? tell me your own gbviews@gbnews.uk it's how you can reach me tonight . going you can reach me tonight. going to take a quick break. when i come back, i'll have some more of your reflection. what i also want to talk to you about how it's all schools should be. there's a school and staffordshire army almost makes the last minute so ridiculous. but anyway , some people are but anyway, some people are calling a prison because it's calling it a prison because it's put over the toilet doors put bars over the toilet doors basically mucking basically to stop kids mucking around in there around with going in there dunng around with going in there during class time. some people are saying it's outrageous . are saying it's outrageous. personally, i think it's quite sensible and i think a lot of schools should be a bit more tough. don't you? give me assaults. i'll see you into .

hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me michelle dewberry keep me company until 7:00 tonight. it's on this valentine's night alongside me

on the political console and emma burnell. on the political console and emma burnell . so beyond the emma burnell. so beyond the director of the free speech union, my two dates for tonight. you're lucky people, alan. you just really made me laugh. so you just did. in response to the next conversation that i want to have with you about schools , have with you about schools, students, school in stoke on trends apparently walked out in protest after the toilets were barred . and when i say about barred. and when i say about everyone, i literally mean bars across them during lesson times , one parent compared it to a prison and said pupils are being treated like animals. prison and said pupils are being treated like animals . please. prison and said pupils are being treated like animals. please. i mean, give me a break. emma, where do you stand ? i think if where do you stand? i think if you need to weigh , you can't you need to weigh, you can't really think of much else as your bladder fills and expands and you get more and more uncomfortable, you are not in the best state for learning. if on the other hand, you are that kid who takes the urine and has 10 minutes out of each class

every day, then that should be a way of stopping that. there's got to be a more sensible way of managing this than balls on the balls on the loose. you would think. i just you don't want kids getting urinary tract infections because they're trying to hold it in a whole group of girls with cystitis is not a group of girls that's going to learn. and i know. but come on, you that you're come on, if you know that you're about go into a lesson, so about to go into a lesson, so you have to sit in your lesson for, i don't know, an hour or whatever your lesson is. who cares? know, you're cares? you know, if you're a sensible intent on sensible individual intent on learning opposed learning as opposed to just messing you probably messing around, you probably not going a truly a bottle going to drink a truly a bottle of coca—cola as you walk into that classroom. and if you do, you're a bit of an idiot, really. but even if you're not, you should be drinking water and keeping reasonably hydrated throughout the day. that's just good but also good health advice, but also that 50 minute break. anyone who's been to the kind of school i went to, those at that the girls later that 50 minutes break is a it would make the

south bronx look like a decent civilised respectable place to be. it it's you know and if you are being bullied or are nervous or shy , it is simply the most or shy, it is simply the most horrific and terrifying place in the world. so actually waiting 5 minutes and going quietly during class and then coming back can be really important for some kids. and that's probably true of boys as well. i don't know what it's like in the boys days. i've never been in the boys place, thank but i can't. place, thank god. but i can't. girls hang out in the loos. that sort of a classic trope, isn't it? and they, they can be really quite a vicious place to be. so i think it's really just be sensible that my mind might find balance and be sensible on this topic . i've got to say right topic. i've got to say right when i hear, oh yeah, these kids, they've walked out and pretty terse, the parents are outraged . they're calling it outraged. they're calling it a prison , i think. oh, get over prison, i think. oh, get over yourselves. like surely you want yourselves. like surely you want your kids to pack it in and behave and sit in a classroom

and focus, you know, a lot more. but education and schools then probably those to put together, used free school, used to run a free school, didn't what do you make to didn't you? what do you make to it all? well, i run a multi—academy trust, which had four schools within four free schools sitting within it, and i found those schools. yeah. mean, we had a pretty yeah. i mean, we had a pretty firm behaviour management system in place. i wouldn't describe it as zero tolerance of bad behaviour, but pretty close to it. and that included disrupting lessons and for the most part lessons and for the most part lessons are held inside and some less. the teacher asks one of the child children to participate . i'm in favour of participate. i'm in favour of this policy. i think it's sensible. of course there will be costs , but i think the be costs, but i think the benefits will outweigh those costs. you know , any teacher can costs. you know, any teacher can tell you that if the school policy is to allow the children to go to the toilet, when they put their hands up, whenever they put their hands up, children take advantage children will take advantage of that policy. they that policy. of course they will. their nature. will. that's just their nature. and you're constantly be interrupted in the course of teaching a lesson by children, putting their hands wanting

putting their hands up, wanting to toilet, or go toilet. to go toilet, mess or go toilet. so i think it's a sensible policy . it's and as you say, policy. it's and as you say, it's not very difficult for the children to able to manage so children to be able to manage so they don't drink too much beforehand or they make sure they toilet before the they go to the toilet before the lesson during break. don't lesson or during break. i don't think there'll be so many emergencies that the cost will be that high . alan's comment be that high. alan's comment made me laugh just as i came back from my break because alan was saying that if he was in one of these classes he needed of these classes and he needed to toilet, he would just to go to toilet, he would just basically pants down basically pull his pants down and business there in the and do his business there in the classroom. and me classroom. and it made me chuckle, i don't chuckle, but obviously i don't condone that kind of behaviour . condone that kind of behaviour. these people, the way, emma, these people, by the way, emma, these that say where these kids that you say where you you might get uti or you know, you might get a uti or cystitis , i my bottom dollar cystitis, i bet my bottom dollar that could control laura just to go toilet. if they were go to the toilet. if they were sat in a cinema watching a movie. not these days. have you seen a of films? i'm seen a lot of films? i'm terrified this one. i'm terrified of this one. i'm saying but i put you up saying tonight, but i put you up at one point, emma, you said that it's difficult to that it's very difficult to focus, to concentrate if you want all can

want to pay. it's all you can think actually, think about. actually, i remember when first went on remember when i first went on question time, someone passed on a of advice they'd been a nugget of advice they'd been given. by given. curiously enough, by enoch that enoch powell. he said that whenever onto question whenever he goes onto question time, sure he doesn't time, he makes sure he doesn't pee beforehand because wanting to you're telly to pee when you're on telly makes you a bit sharper, a bit quicker , gives you an edge. quicker, gives you an edge. you're less likely to kind of get all of my eyes is to feel like a cartoon. i says , like a cartoon. i says, michelle, are we really sitting here discussing people going to toilet? is there nothing else to discuss? yes we are talking about it and i'll tell you for why might because i personally worry that we are breeding a nafion worry that we are breeding a nation a generation sorry, of absolute wet lettuces of kids who are so and if they haven't been to the no entitled you know but they're so self entitled going out on these protests because they can't pick and choose how much time they can mess around during classrooms in the toilet , parents getting the toilet, parents getting involved , calling them prisons. involved, calling them prisons. i think it's pathetic actually.

so i think the conversation about how tough should schools be is a very important one for anyone who's got kids , anyone who's got kids, grandkids, nieces, nephews, which is pretty much all of us, quite frankly. another thing i would do as is ban phones would do as well is ban phones from the classrooms. i would take those telephones off the kids, which, by the way, i don't think half these kids should have smartphones in the first place. that's a different place. but that's a different topic. and i take those phones off and they won't them off them and they won't get them back end of the school back until the end of the school day. that's fair isn't day. that's fair enough, isn't it? basically you'd have my it? so basically you'd have my support of the support on that one. most of the time it is about being sent someone a phone in the class is not sensible, but why do all these parents all these these parents give all these really smartphone really young kids? smartphone phones? i mean, my key, i always go back to my niece and nephew. i think talked about my i think we talked about my nephew we were on nephew last time we were on together. they've together. and i think they've had them from mid—teens, but very much with a strict you don't in school policy don't use it in school policy and school enforces that and their school enforces that and their school enforces that and they are pretty as and they are pretty rigid as i understand , because their understand it, because all their friends the same classes friends are in the same classes or the same school we is. there's a load of whatsapps

there's not a load of whatsapps that are flying around because they're not using them. this they're all not using them. this came multi—academy came up at a multi—academy trust, so lot of the staff trust, so a lot of the staff wanted to just phones wanted to just ban phones outright. pushback from outright. and the pushback from parents child parents was if my child is walking and from school, walking to and from school, i want to be able to call them. i want to be able to call them. i want them to be able to call me if they get any kind of if they get into any kind of difficulty. so we thought, okay, fine, them to fine, they can bring them to school, but if they're seen using during school using them during the school day, for day, they get confiscated for a week that policy seems to week and that policy seems to have worked. i go to the ball quite a lot. immersive theatre and you, they're very, very strict about phones there because photograph because you can't photograph anything and you have to put it into this sort pouch thing into this sort of pouch thing that's and that of that's locks it and that sort of thing. perfectly thing. is it perfectly acceptable of just you go in acceptable way of just you go in the classroom, you put your phone seems fairly phone in a pouch, seems fairly sensible to me. surface sensible to me. i can surface that not of you guys that not many of you guys at home are any of their home are having any of their eileen says. no, i do not think toilets should be locked. some kids might have irritable bowel or might be sick. yes, but if you medical issue, you you got a medical issue, you want actually to use want to actually allowed to use the because i mean, wow.

the toilet because i mean, wow. when you ask a teacher , don't go when you ask a teacher, don't go at start your lesson, you at the start of your lesson, you have or your teacher have a word or your teacher would you've an element would know you've got an element or and you just or whatever. and you would just be about they're be sensible about what they're trying to do is stop people being idiotic and spending their time by time disrupting the lessons by being an and down like being an up and down like a yo�*yo being an up and down like a yo—yo karen says, i think this is bob baric. if you've got a bladder issue, would you want to go hunting for a key to the toilet, please? can you stop being so insensitive ? bob being so insensitive? bob barrett? karen saying that you can only use the toilet in the break. i mean, come on now . if break. i mean, come on now. if you were saying that children could never go to the toilet, ever as a wet their own pants, then i might be with you there. but restricting it to breaks of which the timing is clear to everyone involved. i don't really think that's barbaric, but agree disagree. but we can agree to disagree. tony says . i work a school tony says. i work in a school and our toilets get trashed constantly. so yes, it's a great idea. putting bars on them dunng idea. putting bars on them during times . david, during lesson times. david, you're a smart man. you use that. discipline the problem. that. discipline is the problem. we allow mobile we should not allow mobile phonesin we should not allow mobile phones in any classroom . say hey

phones in any classroom. say hey to right ? i've got to take to that right? i've got to take a quick break. when we come back, we'll have some of back, we'll have some more of your insights. but let me ask your insights. but let me ask you this. have you got a problem with is with your weight? is it something you struggle something that you struggle with? would you have with? well, would you have a weak lean jab, an injection to help you lose weight? apparently, we could be seeing more these things available more of these things available on any time on the high street any time soon. would you perhaps look beyond the high street and go onune beyond the high street and go online get this kind of online and get this kind of stuff all in quest of losing stuff all in the quest of losing a pounds and we're going a few pounds and we're going a bit too far when it comes to people. everyone wants to be slim and all the rest of it. give me your thoughts and i'll see you into .

high though. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through till 7:00 this evening alongside the political consultant emma burnell on to beyond the direct right, the free speech union. we've just been talking how much

discipline in schools is too much discipline in particular, doing things like , putting bars doing things like, putting bars off at the toilets to stop you going to toilet in the middle of the class. and i've just been in touch me on twitter saying i was a school governor and we had a head of the secondary school and head of the secondary school and he did telephones . you say there he did telephones. you say there are children who are type one diabetic. the child could have ibs or some other bowel problems or a kidney problem. and you end by telling me that i sound like a father rights zealot . so i've a father rights zealot. so i've got to be honest, this is one of the problems, i in the problems, i think, in today's society. everything these days described these days gets described as far right . if everything is far right. if everything is far right. if everything is far right , even suggesting that right, even suggesting that people mess around in people shouldn't mess around in the quite the classroom, then quite frankly , where do we go from frankly, where do we go from there ? right. you a problem there? right. you have a problem with words . high street with your words. high street chemist to sell chemist says that to sell a controversial loss jab controversial weight loss jab popular among celebrities is apparently including elon musk. experts are saying this is not a quick fix and. it should only be

offered under medical supervision on top of young . supervision on top of young. i'll start with you on this one. would you kind of ever think to yourself right ? yeah. i need to yourself right? yeah. i need to lose a few pounds or whatever, so on to what i'm going to do today, start injecting myself with stuff. yeah, i thought about this. a friend of mine who i saw because i thought he was going to say no. that's why i came a friend of mine who came for a friend of mine who i sort of christmas had lost a lot of weight. right. and i said. how come you've lost all this weight? it's amazing. he weight? it's amazing. and he said this drug said he been taking this drug called , which is the called ozempic, which is the drug we're talking about. one of the drugs we're talking about. and what it does is it suppresses your appetite. so he no to cake or no longer wants to eat cake or biscuits . he doesn't have to biscuits. he doesn't have to have seconds. and he found it really easy to lose weight because his appetite had basically gone . and also, he basically gone. and also, he said another helpful thing about it was that on this particular drug, as i think there are other drugs, but on this particular one, he could only drink 20 units alcohol per week. units of alcohol per week. that's about two bottles of

wine. and was a way also wine. and so it was a way also controlling drinking . and i controlling his drinking. and i thought, back . that sounds thought, go back. that sounds potentially quite good. i mean , potentially quite good. i mean, you feel like could you know, i feel like i could lose half a stone. so i lose maybe half a stone. so i did about but he then did think about it. but he then said, don't do it without going to your gp getting yourself to see your gp getting yourself properly checked out to see if it actually is appropriate to use this drug. in case, use this drug. in your case, one worry available worry about making it available in superdrug on the in boots and superdrug on the high street is that people for whom it isn't suitable, for whom it does pose medical risk, it does pose a medical risk, people who aren't going to kerb their drinking, instance, their drinking, for instance, while could get while taking the drug, could get into difficulty you it into difficulty. you say it sounds quite good. i think it sounds quite good. i think it sounds quite good. i think it sounds quite lazy that people you've just said, oh, i looked at my make you look good. i could just inject myself with this stuff and off follows the pounds. surely the best way to lose way and the healthiest way to lose is eat less and move to lose way is eat less and move more trying inject yourself more. trying to inject yourself with this and that the with this and that and the other. it's almost like what i would call like the instagram of life looking someone with instagram going out to a fast

track to that. well i think i think you're making a common mistake if you don't mind me saying michelle. saying so, michelle. but you often program, which is often on this program, which is you remarkable driven, you are a remarkable driven, self—made woman and you often think that other people should have your willpower, your stamina , your drive. but i'm not stamina, your drive. but i'm not sure i have tried to lose weight. and sometimes i've succeeded. but then i put it back on and, you know, i'm particularly overweight. i'm looking at you. i have to say, i've got body shot. you i've got a full body shot. you guys missing out on that guys are missing out on that wonderful vision, which is toby's entire body. i can toby's entire body. but i can see entire body, and see your entire body, and i guess i'd like it's naked under the table and always nick. he's got everything, got rehearsal and everything, but upset . but you. i would be upset. astonished that you would even remotely consider need remotely consider that you need to weight . it's my remotely consider that you need to weight. it's my bmi for to lose weight. it's my bmi for using it, i think. i think. i think my bmi is 25.3. and being 25 or under is when you're a healthy weight. so i'm just fractionally overweight. so i think it would be healthy for me to lose weight. and that's why i was thinking about it. but i

decided not to and you know, i agree. if you do have the willpower to eat less and exercise more, that's clearly a preferable way of doing so. so i think willpower is a choice. toby that i'm a bit toby thinks that i'm being a bit harsh judging everyone by a harsh and judging everyone by a wrong standards. what do wrong set of standards. what do you it, emma? well you make of it, emma? well i think it's difficult . i you make of it, emma? well i think it's difficult. i probably wouldn't choose to use this stuff myself personally , stuff myself personally, although, as you know, i have had surgery which gave me the head start. i needed to then allow my willpower to really kick in and take over. and i've lost 12 and a half stone, which is encouraged and the weight loss surgery i had was a head start . it was like . it just gave start. it was like. it just gave me the incentive to turn things around, but i couldn't have done it. just with that alone. and i know because i have a friend who had the same surgery for whom sadly the result has not been decided. and so what worries me about this drug reading about it

only works. as long as you're taking the drug and you only supposed to take the drug for two years for some people, but two years for some people, but two years for some people, but two years will be the two years they absolutely turn things around. they integrate walking or some sort of exercise into their life much more. they get used to taking portions great for others. they will pull a weight straight back on because they won't have done that other additional work that you need that mental work and that habitual work and so taking this of the process that you go through with the doctor, i think is what worries me because i think it won't give people the long term result that might be looking for rather than that short, quick fix. congratulations by the way. this is coming in as well. 12 stone lose. 12 stone is absolutely phenomenal at two stone, lose. 12 stone is absolutely phenomenal at two stone , £4 to phenomenal at two stone, £4 to go before i hit my target. but i've lost £9 in february, so i'm feeling very happy with myself at the moment. then more so,

you're going to hit your target and then stay at target . and and then stay at target. and once you . so i'm doing slimming once you. so i'm doing slimming world, which i love it at slimming world you pay every week to go in and get weighed and. you can stay to the group and. you can stay to the group and you discuss great and things once you hit target, you never pay once you hit target, you never pay again until you go out of target . so it's like an pay again until you go out of target. so it's like an and so it keeps you keep having that support network, that support system, that wonderful of system, that wonderful group of friends, wonderful input of friends, that wonderful input of recipes but the recipes and things but the incentive that you're not incentive is that you're not paying incentive is that you're not paying u £5 week and, and it paying you £5 a week and, and it is it's like positive reinforcement in so many ways. and it's so much of what i get from being thinner than i was positive reinforcement. i know i'm not going to lie. i like looking better than i used to, but more importantly, i love feeling better than i used to. yeah, i think one argument against this particular drug is that it's quite expensive i worked out, i mean, buying it on the dark web admittedly and not going through and going through my doctor and getting it prescription. it

getting it on prescription. it was cost me about getting it on prescription. it was going to cost me abou getting it on prescription. it wmonth.] to cost me abou getting it on prescription. it wmonth.] to (if;t me abou getting it on prescription. it wmonth.] to (if you; abou getting it on prescription. it wmonth.] to (if you; (you're a month. and if you if you're keeping weight off and you know, you're going gain it if you you're going to gain it if you stop taking drug , that means stop taking the drug, that means it's very difficult to stop paying it's very difficult to stop paying amount. it's a bit paying that amount. it's a bit like i never took like the reason i never took rogaine. rogaine is hair loss rogaine. so rogaine is hair loss drug. does is prevent drug. all it does is prevent you getting any bolder. doesn't getting any bolder. it doesn't actually, think restore actually, i don't think restore your hair. so kind of put it your hair. so you kind of put it on and you kind of freeze is the point at which you're going bald. you get any bald, bald. you don't get any bald, but you keep on but then you have to keep on paying but then you have to keep on paying to use it because the moment using it, all moment you stop using it, all the you would have the hair you would have lost suddenly out overnight. suddenly falls out overnight. and that's pretty traumatic. so i just live with it. i just i'll just live with it. i just worry about i think i would worry like the side worry about the like the side effect. yeah. you're saying about you're getting about where you're getting this stuff. the dark web, michelle has contact saying, has been in contact saying, michelle, michelle to michelle's, you're saying just you pounds. you you lose a few pounds. you saying it glibly, but michelle's explaining a spinal explaining she has a spinal problem from an accident which has resulted in almost 30 years of pain, which has really led to her struggling with her weight.

you point out to me, michelle, and i think it's a very good point that this is not just about people wanting to lose weight for vanity, but sometimes literally to lose literally people need to lose weight because of health problems . otherwise, you know, problems. otherwise, you know, heaven help their future health prospects. now i would i completely feel for michelle when i was as heavy as i was, i was in constant, constant pain . was in constant, constant pain. and if i walked, even a short distance, i remember walking across trafalgar square and by halfway across my back was seizing up and crippling pain. i wouldn't walk anywhere with anyone. i'd always arranged to meet people i knew which tube stations had steps in which didn't that that's how much of your life it takes up. wow. interesting right? i shall leave you to ponder some of that. and when i come back on, ask you a very simple question. what class are you? do we know? does it matter? apparently 80% of us think that there's a massive disparity between in this country . for which class are country. for which class are you? me i was definitely,

categorically say working class always will be where you give me your thoughts. i'll see you .

to hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me. michelle dewberry keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. lots of you guys getting in touch about that conversation we've just been having about weight loss injection ins soon readily available to help people. angela says michelle, you're completely wrong with your comments about it being easy to lose weight. it is not judge people by is not do not judge people by your own standards , jackie goes your own standards, jackie goes a step further. she says, shame on you, michelle. people do not choose to be fat . there is choose to be fat. there is usually another reason . obesity usually another reason. obesity is the outcome , not the cause. is the outcome, not the cause. and there is usually a reason for obesity . well, i mean, that for obesity. well, i mean, that

is a whole different debate because respectfully, i would respectfully disagree with you in lots of those cases. jackie abbott, each to their own , all abbott, each to their own, all views are welcome right. at what class are you? let's talk working class because 80% of adults there or thereabouts think that there is this big class divide in this country. which then makes me think, well, how do you even define class? for personally , i. i really for me personally, i. i really strongly believe i a working class always will be. but what is it , toby? class always will be. but what is it, toby? what is it that defines who we are? which class we sit on? well, there is no, you know, there are no fixed rules in this discussion. i mean, one of the interesting things about class is how you perceive it and how you rank others depends upon what class you are yourself . i would take you are yourself. i would take issue with you description of yourself as working class pointing out. may everyone listening not watching work in august and paul to make a point i one because take issue with me

about well it seems to me that you're defining class entirely according to parental socioeconomic status and level of education. no tick those boxes because you were born on a council estate and you left school at 16. but it's also about your occupation. it's also about your occupation. it's also about your occupation. it's also about your income. and in terms occupation and income, i'd put you upper middle class. so if you upper middle class. so if you would define yeah. if you were defined entirely by where you were born and what level of education you had that would mean that that was fixed in stone at the age of 16. if you leave school at the age of 16 or 18. now, that got a university, but it's not fixed in stone. we have such a as social have such a thing as social mobility. admittedly it's declining, still exists. declining, but it still exists. so, you know, you have to take other factors into account. you've done very wealthy herself, so you may have been born but think born working class, but i think it's misleading to describe yourself class. yourself as still working class. now, disagree with now, i entirely disagree with you, and i'm going to tell you how define class in a minute. how i define class in a minute. but as i think but it is fascinating as i think my opinions are. i also want to

hear from you, emma. so tell me, where do you stand on this? and i okay. i respond to unisex. okay. i think the interesting question, michel, for you which would be you have child , would you michel, for you which would be you yourhave child , would you michel, for you which would be you your child child , would you michel, for you which would be you your child is hild , would you michel, for you which would be you your child is middleould you michel, for you which would be you your child is middle class?)u say your child is middle class? i will grow up to be working class or middle class because that, again, comes back to that social mobility, because they will advantages you didn't will have advantages you didn't have in their childhood. so they will never have known that working class lifestyle that you grew up with. in the inculcated lot of who you are and who you became. so again, when we're talking about social mobility, is it is all class inherited or not, part of the problem with the class and discuss is a set into three rigid groups in the 18th 19th century that reflected how the economy and society works . then it is quite works. then it is quite unreflective of how it is now, for example. but then the middle class is really small . it was class is really small. it was that the least populated class. now of course the middle class

is so big it encompasses me and rishi sunak that's mad. any socioeconomic group that in ten times both of us is no longer a useful signify. everyone tends to mark themselves down. so rishi describes self as middle class michel. he's playing middle class, describes himself as working class . middle class, describes himself as working class. i'm not. so let me respond . i definitely let me respond. i definitely catalogue correctly. would never ever regard myself as middle class. you said upper middle class. you said upper middle class a minute ago. so you've just emerged maybe that's a demotion . for class. it's not demotion. for class. it's not about your education. it's not about your education. it's not about your education. it's not about your house. it's not about your work. and it's certainly not about your income. to me, it's about your attitude, your values, your outlook , your values, your outlook, your belief system. it is something thatis belief system. it is something that is almost impossible to describe because it to me is your core. it runs through your very being, is the is in every interaction that you have, every aspiration that you have , your

aspiration that you have, your goals, your ambition , your goals, your ambition, your drive. it's something that will never go away . it's not about never go away. it's not about what lecture say i earn £100 tomorrow. i end what lecture say i earn £100 tomorrow. i en d £500. it's tomorrow. i end £500. it's irrelevant to me because no matter how much money i ever achieve , i would always have achieve, i would always have this fear of, oh, you know, i might lose everything . am i good might lose everything. am i good enough on my day? so am i. something to me that runs through the very core of me and will never change? no, no . and will never change? no, no. and that that fear, i think , is in that that fear, i think, is in terms of the cultural class element , is terms of the cultural class element, is really, terms of the cultural class element , is really, really element, is really, really elemental to it. i think that sense that it could all go away tomorrow and that there's no safety net. and i think that element of the working class is probably expanded quite a lot into the middle class. the more precarious middle class , the precarious middle class, the career as that that they're now known. and i think that's an interesting part of why i think just having three classes is quite unhelpful these days. let

me bring some of my view is and jane says, if you work for a living, you're working class. sarah says, class structure is changing, upper middle class is going upper class. the lower middle class is going working class. and the existing working class. and the existing working class is going. peasants says sarah james says blue collar workers where working class white collar work as middle class. not sure is prevalent any more, terence said this is easy. i've got an espresso machine, so clearly obsessed by that . clearly i'm obsessed by that. class all in the mind. class is all in the mind. phillips says. michelle, you are class. that, take class. i like that, so i'll take it . and another fellow says, it. and another fellow says, michelle, you ask for my views, but you always ignore me. he says it's on his bucket list, gets comment, read gets his comment, read out. consider bucket made consider your bucket list made fellow. i've just read your comment apologies comment out. apologies if i don't to you. i literally don't get to you. i literally get so many emails and tweets, etc. and i appreciate every single of them. look that is single one of them. look that is all we've got time for. single one of them. look that is all we've got time for . we have all we've got time for. we have got romantic valentine's day things to be getting on with and i'm you have as well . take i'm sure you have as well. take us with you on the radio. if

you're heading out tonight, if you're heading out tonight, if you're sitting in front of your box, nigel box, stick around. nigel farage is whatever you doing, is next. whatever you doing, have fantastic night . remember have a fantastic night. remember the important person, some the most important person, some of good evening of you tonight it's good evening welcome your latest weather welcome to your latest weather update from the met office i'm jonathan vautrey after a fairly dry of weeks. some of us dry couple of weeks. some of us are to see a bit more are going to see a bit more rainfall the cards as we move rainfall on the cards as we move into half of this into the second half of this week. pressure has been week. the pressure that has been with is slowly drifting its with us is slowly drifting its way off towards continental europe and it's allowing this frontal move way europe and it's allowing this frofrom move way europe and it's allowing this frofrom the move way europe and it's allowing this frofrom the west.move way europe and it's allowing this frofrom the west. s01e way europe and it's allowing this frofrom the west. so whilstvay europe and it's allowing this frofrom the west. so whilst it/ in from the west. so whilst it will dry initially for will be dry initially for northern scotland , northern ireland and scotland, we will see some heavier bursts of moving during the of rain moving in. so during the second half of the night, further the east, we hold further to the east, we hold onto dry and onto the some fairly dry and clear conditions that will allow fog patches and they fog patches to form and they could particularly dense could be particularly dense across eastern across some southeast eastern areas frost. also areas of patchy frost. also forming as well down to low single figures for towns and cities. the increasing breeze though, will help the fog clear off a bit quicker than morning and meanwhile we'll watch this frontal system move its way in

and provide again some heavier bursts for a time but it will tend to fizzle its way out as it moves across england and wales. so turning patchier and lighter for the day, we'll hold on to the milder air in the southeast . so highs of 15, 14 degrees, a relatively pleasant day here, but further to the west it will just be that bit cooler, particularly where we've got the breeze it could be a breeze around and it could be a fairly blustery day for some dunng fairly blustery day for some during the overnight period. a frontal the frontal feature continues the day and it's more this day away and it's more this second front that will start pushing in across southern areas of the uk, providing some fairly drizzly , dismal conditions that drizzly, dismal conditions that will persist throughout the first day and is looking like a fairly grey and drab day for most of us. it will actually be northern areas of scotland that see some of sunny skies see some of the sunny skies underneath that cloud. it's not necessarily going to feel as particularly pleasant as late, but more into thursday night where we'll got to watch points for some particularly strong winds that will start moving across northern of the uk across northern areas of the uk . these could provide 70 mile an

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