either party the next general election on housing. we're all ears but before that let's get the news with polly middleton first . nigel the news with polly middleton first. nigel thank you. good evening to you. the news at 7:00. rishi sunak has thanked nicolas sturgeon for her service after the first minister earlier made a surprise announcement that she was to step down after eight years in power. ms. sturgeon said she was proud to have been the first female and longest serving first minister of scotland. she'll remain in the role until her successor is appointed. ms. sturgeon acknowledged that the move might seem sudden, but denied it was due to short term pressures and said she had been wrestling with idea for weeks. to those who do feel shocked, disappointed , feel shocked, disappointed, perhaps even a bit angry with me, please know that will heart and be in no doubt. this is really hard for me. my decision

comes from a place of duty and of love. tough love, perhaps, but love nevertheless for my party and above all, for the country . lancashire police say country. lancashire police say missing mother of two, nicola bulli , had a history of bulli, had a history of significant issues with alcohol, which was brought on by her ongoing struggles with menopause . detectives say the 45 year old was listed as a high risk missing person due to a number of specific vulnerabilities . of specific vulnerabilities. officers have previously attended her property on the 10th of january over concern for welfare . no one was arrested in welfare. no one was arrested in relation to that incident, but the investigation is still ongoing. ms. pulley has now been missing for 90 days. the former labour leader, jeremy corbyn says sir keir starmer barring him from standing as a labour candidate at the next election is a flagrant attack on democracy. he also said it's a divisive distraction from the

overriding goal to defeat the conservative party. labour leader had earlier apologised for the party's handling of antisemitism under his predecessor and the equality and human rights commission announced it will end its monitoring of the party two years after finding it responsible for unlawful harassment and discrimination . harassment and discrimination. on the chancellor. jeremy hunt says the fight to reduce inflation is far from over , inflation is far from over, despite the rate decreasing for a third consecutive month . data a third consecutive month. data from the office for national statistics show the consumer index fell to 10.1% in january. that's down 10.5% in december. the drop was largely due to the price of fuel and transport slowing . down and the slowing. down and the government's announced it's going to donate another government's announced it's going to donate anothe r £25 going to donate another £25 million towards relief in earthquake hit turkey and syria . some of the funds will provide tents and blankets for families who are now homeless and living

in freezing temperatures . it now in freezing temperatures. it now bnngs in freezing temperatures. it now brings the uk's total financial support to almost £43 million. you're up to date on tv, online and dab+ radio with gb news the people's channel, where now it's time for . time for. good evening. what? the day started off with some inflation figures. we'll talk about those. keir starmer during a press conference looking to be fair quite statesman like saying corbyn is out he will not be a labour candidate and that was going to be the big story of the night until rumours went around that nicholas sturgeon was about to the first minister to resign as the first minister in scotland. indeed just after 11:00, she her press conference. interesting that she said i me or my 153 times but only mentions scotland 11 times that

to me was quite telling but she's done. she's gone. she pushed it too far. her trans intransigence in the end is what did for her. yes, quite extraordinary. she wanted 16 year olds without any medical consultation to able to change their gender and then it all happened, didn't it ? a male happened, didn't it? a male double rapist turns up in court wearing a wig and is due be sent to a women's prison and over 80% of scotland says no , we don't of scotland says no, we don't want that. and labour start to rise in the polls. support for separation begins to fall. stories about snp money around husband's behaviour. a non—declaration of loans and the whole thing unravels . and she's whole thing unravels. and she's gone. whole thing unravels. and she's gone . i think it's very good gone. i think it's very good news . it's very good news for news. it's very good news for those of us who believe in the christian roots of our society. very good for those of us that believe in the family as being a rather important unit. very good for all of us who believe in

small c conservative principles because we see daily headlines that make us very, very upset, nervous, worried about the future. what you've seen in scotland is proof that the pendulum can swing back. that actually the silent majority in the end can have their way . so the end can have their way. so i think it's been a very day. it's been a very sunny day . and in been a very sunny day. and in particular, my view is it's been a particularly good day for keir starmer and the labour party. but tell me , what do you think? but tell me, what do you think? how much damage has this done to the cause of scottish separation 7 the cause of scottish separation ? well, let's go straight to hollyrood and join darren mccaffrey . gb news is political mccaffrey. gb news is political editor darren. a pretty remarkable day for keir starmer is my take on this. labour already rising in the polls in scotland and the snp in disarray . a snap poll of scottish voters

asking who should replace sturgeon and 69% say we haven't got a scooby doo. that's corbyn out. some quick reflections. darren perhaps on keir starmer's day . you yeah. really day. you yeah. really fascinating. i started the day in east london this morning in that same room as keir starmer. labour seems to be turning a page on what's been a very horrific and toxic period of time with the allegations . more time with the allegations. more than allegations are wrong in that party. labour this morning wanting to apologise , but wanting to apologise, but wanting to apologise, but wanting to apologise, but wanting to say as keir has been trying to do frankly for the last three years, to put as much distance between himself and jeremy corbyn as possible emphatic he will not be standing at next and then at the next election. and then this news in within a couple of hours is a major boost to labour . i offered it on a plane up here and you talk to people here and you're right, they have no idea. bill nicholas sturgeon who is the right person to take on

the job of the snp leader and indeed first minister of scotland. yes. yesterday that float around angus robinson and kate forbes , john swinney and kate forbes, john swinney and others. but nicola been such a colossal of scottish politics for the past decade or so. nigel the frankly , all those figures the frankly, all those figures pale in comparison. so this good news for labour, it could have a significant part of the next general election of. labour have traditionally relied on scotland in the past to form majorities when they have won elections. but there are bigger questions too , about where this leads. the too, about where this leads. the independent question as well, nicholas whether you nicholas sturgeon, whether you liked or hated her, was liked her or hated her, was a very, good communicator . very, very good communicator. she was a good advocate for scottish independence. whoever succeeds will they be able to do that ? lots of people, frankly, that? lots of people, frankly, think that is not the case. and one reasons she's going one of the reasons she's going today there's a whole load today and there's a whole load of reasons you've explained some of reasons you've explained some of i think, frankly, of them, i think, frankly, she also she expressed that also fed up. she expressed that today. i think is part of today. i think that is part of the but another reason is

the reason but another reason is that the snp, nicholas sturgeon couldn't find a roots for this second referendum when it came to independence. nigel we know the uk so court snap them down. we know the uk parliament effectively was not going to give them a pathway to that second independence referendum. it starting tear the snp it was starting to tear the snp apart . and that is a big reason apart. and that is a big reason why nicholas sturgeon has left today. but it as massive today. but it also as massive questions about where the independence movement in scotland goes next. couldn't agree more . darren mccaffrey agree more. darren mccaffrey thank you very much indeed for. that full report. well, let's go now to member of parliament for the scottish national party who joins us from the outside hebrides. angus macneil . angus, hebrides. angus macneil. angus, i want to just read you something. and it was a statement today by joan. good thank you for joining statement today by joan. good thank you forjoining us. joan thank you for joining us. joan mcalpine, a former snp member of scottish parliament, said today not since bonnie prince charlie sacrificed his highlander that culloden has a scottish backward

battleground been ill chosen. it's not so much dying on a hill as succumbing in a quagmire. it's not so much dying on a hill as succumbing in a quagmire . she as succumbing in a quagmire. she did make, did she , over her did make, did she, over her translate just elation the most catastrophic political mistake ? catastrophic political mistake? i don't think that is a huge for pessimism and the way of painting it . pessimism and the way of painting it. nigel but on the j.r.r, yes, i would agree. that's agreed on this channel and in other channels before that it wouldn't be my chosen legislation. and it's certainly been a political misstep , we been a political misstep, we say. i think i heard alex salmond say earlier. so yeah, i mean , but that's not and that's mean, but that's not and that's the past. and we move on and there's a there's a future ahead of us. but the truth is the truth of this is angus , you truth of this is angus, you know, this snap poll , you know, know, this snap poll, you know, 69% of scots have got no idea who they think should replace sturgeon. the other names , the sturgeon. the other names, the list of as of right is that darren went through earlier. none of them come around the moment. more than five or 6%

support. is this the moment at which alex salmond's alba party begins to split the nationalist vote in scotland ? no, i don't . vote in scotland? no, i don't. so i think, as you saw at westminster , stephen flynn took westminster, stephen flynn took over from ian . it was who was over from ian. it was who was he? and then it was he did his first pmqs and was whoa, he's good. so, you know, this always happensin good. so, you know, this always happens in politics. people are unknown they've known. the unknown until they've known. the one that will happen is one thing that will happen is that in scotland that people in scotland independence and will move forward that. forward and will achieve that. ultimately, going have in ultimately, we're going have in scotland again in normal country, we going to have country, we are going to have the that we vote for governing as it happens in ireland but incidentally split from the uk and both states and earlier but 101 years old and ireland's far more successful. i mean, i think ireland that has remained in the uk would be in a worse situation than wales for goodness sakes. but ireland has leapfrogged all of and is far. of the uk and is doing far. there's certainly movement there's certainly no movement ireland come back with mother ireland to come back with mother westminster, let's say . well no.

westminster, let's say. well no. and i mean ireland of course, have an incredibly sensible with their corporation tax rate and they become competitive. and these are all things , many of us these are all things, many of us things that are a policy want we do well and that's the point we need to get to be able to choose our policies because if ireland hadnt our policies because if ireland hadn't been independent, it couldn't do the policies that ireland not just ireland and it's not just corporation taxes the way that makes education they've makes the education they've done whatever but whatever in ireland you know but if i will not use the word independence when comes to your campaign because you want to be you know, you want to lead the united , you want to be part of united, you want to be part of european union and that would limit what you could do in economic areas, wouldn't it ? economic areas, wouldn't it? right. so you see in the ireland denmark approach , portugal, denmark approach, portugal, spain, all members, the united nafions spain, all members, the united nations are not independent. nigel, come on. they are not independent. no, they are not independent. no, they are not independent . independent. no, they are not independent. no, they are not independent. no, of independent. no, they are not independent . no, of course independent. no, of course they're governed they're not. they're governed foreign courts. most of the legislature is made in brussels. i is it doesn't this get i mean, is it doesn't this get to heart it that i quite to the heart of it that i quite understand logic of scottish

understand the logic of scottish people saying we want to be independent but you cannot be independent but you cannot be independent and be a member of the european union. yes, you can is demonstrably done by the 27 member states. european union, i mean. well european union, but a member the united kingdom, for goodness sakes. i mean, where scotland at the united nations what a wales that the united nafions what a wales that the united nations there nowhere outside say they get spoken for somebody else people they don't vote else or people they don't vote for. on, nigel. mean , for. come on, nigel. i mean, you, you and i'm sorry. what? the states in europe are not the 27 states in europe are not independent. on. they are independent. come on. they are not in way at all. no. and not in any way at all. no. and that's you would ask to them, not you . you know what? i would not you. you know what? i would disagree on this. however however, let's return to the central point . and i you know, central point. and i you know, i've had this bone of contention in for all these years, and i insist and believe that i'm right. you that's fine. right. and you and that's fine. this news. we debate these this is gb news. we debate these things. yeah, i absolutely . and things. yeah, i absolutely. and thank you for coming on and making points. final thought, angus. if i may, you can after

all her years, all her incredible electoral success, there's no denying that i'm being in that prominent for the last eight years. ultimately her leadership in the last few weeks has done the cause of separation, considerable damage. would you agree ? well, i think would you agree? well, i think when you see the sweep of the polls in the last few months and it's up for independence, you're right, there's been a blip in the last few weeks, but blips exactly by the by the very nature of they've called a nature of what they've called a blip, sweep desire in blip, but the sweep of desire in scotland independence. scotland is for independence. you independence you know, independence doesn't mean and mean snp government and independence doesn't mean a particular it means you control . and i'm sure at times when you've disagreed with whichever uk governments have been in place. nigel, you haven't thought you know what would be better of governed by parties berlin or brussels ?11. no, no . berlin or brussels? 11. no, no. believe angus, i in

self—government we have slightly different definitions of it. but you know, the point is, is that we should have a capital and i know decision making in the capital of our nation and edinburgh and, you know, our neighbours in london. i'm just fine with them as i guess, i fine with them as as i guess, i promise you . i promise you if promise you. i promise you if you believe in an independent scotland , separate from the scotland, separate from the united kingdom , separate from united kingdom, separate from the union, i respect the european union, i respect that point of view and i think it'll work, but i respect it. but thank you. hugely but i thank you. hugely welcoming all of this very important day. you very important day. thank you very much joining us. much indeed forjoining us. angus, we are. we're never angus, there we are. we're never going debate with going to win that debate with the never let's the snp, but never mind. let's go mcclelland, former go to john mcclelland, former editor scotsman newspaper editor of the scotsman newspaper , who joins me down the line . , who joins me down the line. good evening. thank you very much for joining good evening. thank you very much forjoining me. now, this much for joining me. now, this should be i would have thought a big day for the scottish conservative party and yet actually , isn't it? starmer that actually, isn't it? starmer that could benefit from a big fall in snp support . well i think the,

snp support. well i think the, the are obvious advantages for the are obvious advantages for the for the labour party in nicola sturgeon's departure . i nicola sturgeon's departure. i don't think there's any doubt about that , but i think the, the about that, but i think the, the big question that been answered today is, is the future of the union. and i don't think there's any question that the cause of , any question that the cause of, independence has been set back immeasurably by nicola sturgeon's departure . and i sturgeon's departure. and i think that it was the inability to progress , the independence to progress, the independence cause that lies at the heart of , of her decision . and i think , of her decision. and i think that was pretty clear from . the that was pretty clear from. the from, from the press conference today. but it's, it's the division within the snp that is her big problem. and the special conference coming up next month which was probably going to reverse her plans to try and move next general election into a de facto referendum. that's where the wheels really came off for her, because that simply

wasn't to work. and i think that she's basically got out when , she's basically got out when, she's basically got out when, she's ahead, that she was still has a reputation as a as a winning politician tact and that what was coming the tracks was an ignominious u—turn or defeat and had they got into the next general election almost de facto referee in the ticket, she would have lost that and set back independence for a genuine generation the one that we've we've just had of about eight years or so . well, as i say, i years or so. well, as i say, i will not use the word independence and you know, being part of the eu doesn't mean that. however however i agree with you that the union has finished at the end of the day much stronger than it started. i certainly agree with that . i certainly agree with that. i think it's been a very, very good day because. starmer and it's worth remembering labour have a majority in the have never had a majority in the house of commons without a majority of seats. historically, that's quite an important fact.

final thought please, john, if i may . can the scottish may. can the scottish conservative party rally and start to win more seats at the next? yes, it can . i think in next? yes, it can. i think in politics you love the issues that snp's created for itself over oil and gas over. the foods over oil and gas over. the foods over , the recycling stamp over, the recycling stamp policies as well as j.r.r has set the snp's against the sensible and the conservative should be in a position to take advantage of that . be very advantage of that. be very interesting, john. thank you for joining us. thank you to all of our guests tonight for joining us, giving giving us a range of views. all i will say about nicholas sturgeon is effective, though she may well have been as a and i've met a politics and i've met political leaders and national leaders and presidents and popes and lamas and goodness knows

what but on a purely personal level, on a day like this , i level, on a day like this, i have to say i found nicholas sturgeon, one of the most unpleasant people i've ever met in any walk of life . in in any walk of life. in a moment, let's talk about china. let's talk about the extent to which they've got surveillance inside british police forces . inside british police forces. what the hell? the way it's going to do about it.

so how much damage has been done to the cause of scottish separation? well, some of your thoughts coming in, mark says very interesting dynamic . now, very interesting dynamic. now, sturgeon was demanding a uk election when . liz truss election when. liz truss resigned. does that that the seats of the 59 scottish should come up for re—election and i suspect think the usual change of perspective will mean no . no of perspective will mean no. no mark there was not a chance in hell of that happening, mark there was not a chance in hell of that happening , stewart hell of that happening, stewart says.i hell of that happening, stewart says. i suppose depends on who picks up the reins. but stuart , picks up the reins. but stuart, here's the point. there nobody in the in scotland outside side of sturgeon salmond. yes you know, swinney had a go a few years ago. it didn't work there is no other figure in. the snp with real national profile in andifs with real national profile in and it's one of the old stories with sports teams and companies

and businesses and parties you always have to prepare for succession . the snp simply succession. the snp simply haven't done it and run says it means the scottish are waking up to the immense damage. sturgeon and cronies have caused. well i tell you what, when it comes to the transition , she has made the the transition, she has made the most catastrophic error ever. and remember i sat here the week that legislation went through with professor matthew goodwin , with professor matthew goodwin, who'd polled scotland and over 80% of scots didn't not agree with people at age 16 being able to change their gender without even having a medical assessment. a classic case of an arrogant political class completely out of touch with the silent majority . today's the day silent majority. today's the day the pendulum swung back . it can the pendulum swung back. it can happenin the pendulum swung back. it can happen in other areas too. now let's talk china . and there's let's talk china. and there's some huge worrying reasons to talk china. it's ironic that on the very day when we about the

extent to which chinese tech is embedded within the uk police forces we also hear the british government has got a contingency plan for what we do about microchips if china invades , microchips if china invades, taiwan. i've said for years and i'm going to go on saying it, they won't see at that. there are many in the upper reaches of our civil service business political ranks who frankly have beenin political ranks who frankly have been in the pay of china for far too long, but we are where we are. well, we'll is joins me security specialist, corporate protection group your business these days well you've studied this more the most as i say on the one hand we're getting ready for a war, but on the other that our best mates and we do vast amounts of trade with them just just tell us to what extent is chinese tech embedded within our police forces, within lives? to be frank , you, nigel, they may

be frank, you, nigel, they may be frank, you, nigel, they may be our friends , but they are be our friends, but they are unfortunately a way too embedded and integrated into our lives. a considered will say more than you might imagine. this whole issue of particularly that technology that is pervasively within police forces and our constabulary is an agency of all the constabulary that was listed to answer the question. there only . a fraction of them only. a fraction of them actually replied , we don't actually replied, we don't really have the fullest picture . but whether it be the technology chain, the chinese have been incredibly clever about this. they introduce technology at very, very cost. so as is always the way and particularly within the civil service and the public authorities the lowest bidder. so the cheapest price even though it could spy equipment it's the cheapest and that is that cynically what you'll that is there's no cynicism attached to it nigel that is that truism of what has actually happened here. and what we have is we have this technology which we

entirely reliant on for providing surveillance and pr, facial recognition body worn cameras, which all the way back to beijing and remembering that the chinese state the is the domestic intelligence agencies not often have a stakeholder within those companies those technological companies. but there is a and very, very universal law to all those companies that should they wish to interrogate any of the data that those companies have, they have to willingly give it . and have to willingly give it. and it goes deeper, doesn't it? i tick—tock is all the rage with kids in this country it is abso the huge i was barely a kid out there that's not authentic talking and yet i mean there again ability to gather data to mine into other things done on your mobile phone is terrifying it yeah i mean it is the ultimate chinese take if you want to say yes i yield very goodit want to say yes i yield very good it is in terms of the way

that they've set it up, a lot of these apps and the technology including obviously the cctv will have within that terms and conditions the ability them to update the software at various times and how often do we read those terms and conditions, particularly any software update very, very rarely. we don't exactly. so with apple's terms and conditions that the size apparently allegedly of the magna carta so we just don't have the time to do it we simply accept because we don't want disruption or interruption to the service. however many of these will grant access to these apps will grant access to these apps will grant access to the web developers in china and the web developers in china and the software developers china to be able to turn on various functions of your device that will allow them to harvest location and data activity , location and data activity, messages, microphone , camera messages, microphone, camera without your knowledge. now these could be done because you've permitted access for them to do so. this is the biggest apart from ian duncan smith and apart from ian duncan smith and a handful of people across the road here in parliament. this is

all happened without debate. i mentioned earlier there are many. all i had to do was look at the not directors of wall way to see former bosses of major companies, former civil servants, former politicians can we turn this around? i think we can. and i think we have to do that. there are two things which you've drawn on that which are really key. the number thing was the fact that all the constabulary's did not follow a universal and that universal due diligence and that due process should be due diligence process should be led cyber initiatives in led by cyber initiatives in terms of the security , the terms of the security, the backends, that technology . now, backends, that technology. now, china could if we became enemies with them, turn off those software days updates so those those technologies could be rendered redundant. but i think in terms of members of parliament and other public figures and individual those that have positions of influence , we have to look very, very carefully about how involved they are, how much are they receiving in terms of remuneration as non—executive directors all of their various sort of facets to those relationships which potentially

compromise their. relationships which potentially compromise their . well, i mean, compromise their. well, i mean, ihave compromise their. well, i mean, i have name names in the past. i've asked questions about the former prime minister's father, stanley . other things, no one. stanley. other things, no one. me. yeah, well you for that sobering update an assessment of where we are . please, everybody, where we are. please, everybody, wake up and smell the coffee. there's a major problem here. our political don't seem really care at a moment, our political don't seem really care at a moment , the inflation care at a moment, the inflation figures on the upcoming budget .

and a comment on nicholas sturgeon must come straight from mar a lago and the 45th president of the usa, donald trump. he says good riddance to failed woke extremist nicholas sturgeon of scotland . this sturgeon of scotland. this crazed leftist symbol. is everything wrong with politics? yes. donald i'm with you all the way on one now. liam halligan. gb news, the economics editor, joins me . the inflation figures joins me. the inflation figures today kind of got a little bit blown away by the sturgeon resignation . inflation came in. resignation. inflation came in. cpi measure inflation came in at 10.1. i thought rishi was going to halve inflation. do we take this to be good news or bad news? well, it came down more than most people expected. peaked i use that word advisedly in 11.1. it since down in

subsequent months. 10.7, 10.5 and now 10.1% in january . one of and now 10.1% in january. one of the aspects of the cpi, the basket of goods that actually the least inflation was transport. a lot of people watching and listening to gb news tonight will know when they fill up their diesel or their petrol. cars cost a bit less, cost a little bit less is still a lot more than this time last yean a lot more than this time last year, but it's come down a little bit. but the real elephant in the room , it comes elephant in the room, it comes to inflation. nigel, is food price inflation. january still 16% higher than in january 22. i do think rishi sunak going to get his pledge of halving inflation by the end of the yeah inflation by the end of the year. i do think inflation will be four or 5% by the end of the yean be four or 5% by the end of the year, but it won't really be to do with anything that the government does. it was happening anyway. it's happening anyway because when you have big spikes prices year later, spikes in prices a year later, those spikes fall out of the

system and inflation of system and inflation kind of arithmetically anyway. arithmetically falls anyway. it's harder to it's going to be much harder to get inflation from four or get inflation down from four or 5% it's likely to be then 5% where it's likely to be then year down to one or 2, which after all, is the bank of england's target. that is to be tough, not least because there's still a lot wage inflation out there. saw from the there. as we saw from the figures yesterday, and instabilities that in ukraine, etc. so we don't have the energy level, bigger debate rid level, an even bigger debate rid of that of this going on. that inflation, think is the inflation, i think is the budgefs inflation, i think is the budget's coming up on march the 15th. i mean businesses 15th. there is i mean businesses isn't it funny the government was criticised for cutting to cut taxes too much. now they're being criticised raising being criticised for raising taxes much . the pressure taxes too much. the pressure the astrazeneca decision to move to dubun astrazeneca decision to move to dublin from cheshire a £300 million investment. yeah, there is now pressure piled on you and i've been talking about this, haven't we for a couple of weeks, nigel. we've been ahead of the curve on this one. i've been writing about it in my last two weekends. sunday telegraph column. you now have a very activist group of conservative mps building just behind mps in that building just behind

your there, nigel, who are your right there, nigel, who are pushing chancellor jeremy hunt's and chancellor rishi sunak. what is the point? they are saying of raising corporations from 19 to 25% when businesses are already being hammered? i'm not talking the big businesses. i'm just about the smaller sized enterprises that employ half our people and account for the majority of growth here in the uk where they're already being hammered . high energy bills. hammered. high energy bills. they're already being hammered by ongoing inflation in the supply chain . their inputs are supply chain. their inputs are a lot more , particularly if lot more, particularly if they're manufacturers, all those shipping costs. so why them when you just spent of pounds paying furlough and sabre loans keeping these alive because it from me an awful lot of small and medium sized enterprises it's not they're making massive profits so the corporation tax is going to help them. it means they won't reinvest it back cashflow and will cause some of them to throw in the towel. this five and a half million men and women out there running their own

businesses, us. so making businesses, acting us. so making this work and them, the this work. and for them, the 15th of march, jeremy budget is a big, big day. 15th of march, jeremy budget is a big, big day . are we going to a big, big day. are we going to do on that day? well on that day, i'm going to be in the gb news studio in paddington talking about the budget throughout day i'll throughout the day i'll be presenting budget programme presenting the budget programme along colleagues as we hear along with colleagues as we hear from jeremy hunt . but then in from jeremy hunt. but then in the evening i'm joining you, nigel, in doncaster. yep. we're going on road, we're doing going on the road, we're doing a project large in david miliband seats. absolutely . so the 15th seats. absolutely. so the 15th of march budget day , we're going of march budget day, we're going to be gb news be that evening in august at michelle dewberry. we'll do her i will do my show. liam will join us. we want you to go to gb news dot uk join us that evening. priority will go to those involved in business or acting as sole traders . we will acting as sole traders. we will be deeply prejudiced about those that get tickets. we want to hear from the voice of real britain on that day. now a quick

quote. the this tick tock appeared this morning and yes , a appeared this morning and yes, a small boat crossing , the english small boat crossing, the english channel. you've been used in the past to the albanians. this is about one of six. yes they're all coming from india. what a good day out. they're having. it's a qarabag hour. basically, it doesn't matter where you come from in the world. it doesn't matter whether you've got a legitimate claim to be a genuine refugee or not. it's come on down across the english channel, pay a down across the english channel, pay a and you will be allowed stay. the whole thing is beyond joke. and even if they were to the economy right that issue alone could cost them the next election . in a moment, i'm going election. in a moment, i'm going to be doing talking points. we're going to be talking property . yes. and charlie property. yes. and charlie landon, joins me, has got landon, who joins me, has got the policy that he says could win either the conservatives or the labour party . the next the labour party. the next general in action. all of that in 2 minutes .

it's that time it's talking points property expert and adviser charlie landon joins me on the program. just to talking points about what get into . points about what get into. housing which is probably the biggest in the political room at the moment in terms of what's going on in our country and people's hopes and aspirations. your background, a bit of a punk

rocker. i think when you get went to a variety of the best private schools in britain didn't quite make the grade any of them expelled you got kicked out virtually everywhere . but out virtually everywhere. but what interested me, charlie , was what interested me, charlie, was you're involved with home schooling at the moment. and i know i've known people in britain and america, home school , been acutely aware that in countries like germany it is absolutely forbidden to homeschool, which is the state effectively overriding parental rights . i've got a theory that rights. i've got a theory that dunng rights. i've got a theory that during lockdown when kids were at home or laptops doing online lessons, parents saw what their kids were being taught. a majority guide, i think, was a boom going on. am i right? there has been a big, big uptick in people homeschooling. definitely. and in fact, someone who's publicly said that we homeschool a lot of homeschool kids. i get a lot of questions about it. in fact , for questions about it. in fact, for me is that there's a the range of reasons for my personal

reason is i travel quite a lot . reason is i travel quite a lot. i love i just love to be together as a family and we go through it together. that's a different kind of for education the kids. i also would prefer to responsibility my own kids curriculum . that makes sense . i curriculum. that makes sense. i think when you think about my kids, a young, you know, for 15, 20 years, you know, what's the world to me like? nobody really knows. or not just knows. so whether or not just the academic curriculum the standard academic curriculum is be the best for them is going to be the best for them or not, that might make choices. i'd rather take that responsibility on i to responsibility on and i get to spend with kids spend more time with my kids while is while they're small, which is just i can you with just magical. i can you with homeschooling , can they be homeschooling, can they be socialised in a normal way with other kids as well? well, in fact , it's a other kids as well? well, in fact, it's a common misconception that kids get socialised. i mean, all kids go to lots of different local classes like dance and gym and martial arts and forest school, andifs martial arts and forest school, and it's a different group of kids everywhere they go. so not only are they not in a sort of

boiling pot of the same children all day, every day, they would be in school letting different kids. we travel kids. but because we travel a actually they get to they to actually they get to they get to see a lot more just everyone members public when members of the public when you're a very powerful advocate for so i know several for it. and so i know several people that homeschool and do it incredibly i just think as incredibly well, i just think as government gets and bigger and bigger that they're going to come after homeschooling at some point time . i would point in time. i would be terrified be told by state terrified to be told by state that i can't decide what's for best kids. well, good for you. now, you had career , now, charlie, you had a career, the london working at a the city of london working at a very similar company to me, at a very similar company to me, at a very similar company to me, at a very similar time. the city wasn't quite for know, i got wasn't quite for you know, i got fired that as well . we love fired from that as well. we love having on talking points to be waste rules. you've found life laser . that waste rules. you've found life laser. that was the last time i was actually employed that was about 30 years ago roughly . but about 30 years ago roughly. but it was a fast pace. i was in city, all of my friends were at university and i learnt how global markets work , derivatives global markets work, derivatives futures options , all the futures options, all the different commodities. it was fast eating. and of course not

just a sort of hands on education, but also fascinating insight into a major industry and how it works. i did it for 20 years before getting involved in and other things, but you've moved on from that, charlie, and you know, you know moving home with charlie is this is your big pitch these days. so let's just have a big think about this very important thing that is the property market and it comes at a whole of ways, you know , the a whole of ways, you know, the first is, of course the rental market. people buy properties to let they do it commercially or they inherit a home or they buy an office block in london, nobody lets out offices . i mean, nobody lets out offices. i mean, people tell me that for a young couple, you know, maybe in the thirties living in london both on reasonable salaries , even on reasonable salaries, even paying on reasonable salaries, even paying the rent for a property makes their life very, very

difficult. we michael gove the other day talking perhaps about changing leasehold arrangements . how much of a mess are we in with all that? take the rental market, take the unaffordability of property , take the multiples of property, take the multiples of property, take the multiples of income that people need to buy a house and kind of take the fact that numbers of young people can't aspire to what their parents and grandparents thought was a normal way forward and a reasonable aspiration and in life . how about is and a reasonable aspiration and in life. how about is this and a reasonable aspiration and in life . how about is this just in life. how about is this just london now or is this bigger across the country? yeah it's especially acute in london , but especially acute in london, but it's across the and i think it's is it's as as it's ever been in my lifetime . i'm we have a free my lifetime. i'm we have a free market. and the problem that we've got and the reason such a housing problem is because

whilst the government is expected to solve housing problems, it leaves it to the private sector to do so . but private sector to do so. but they have slightly different agendas. they have slightly different agendas . and so it's not the agendas. and so it's not the private sectors to solve the housing crisis. private companies build houses and sell them, but that's what they're entitled to see. and they have all kinds of ups and downs and. they can make a profit from the good years and they have challenges, the bodies, but i think that if you're young think that if you're a young person look at person today and you look at even i get a really good even if i get a really good paying, even if i get a really good paying, i can't afford a place big enough to have a family. and i talking to my audience, i was talking to my audience, the of charlie, the the moving home of charlie, the youtube said youtube channel. and i said to them, economy doesn't them, an economy that doesn't allow a full time employed person live in a decent home isn't a economy . no, i get that. isn't a economy. no, i get that. i get that. i got that against that. you know, do people have the right to buy second homes? i guess they do. i mean, but that leads to problems. doesn't that mean take padstow in north cornwall, the beautiful carmel estuary, picturesque little but in the winter was no one there

and the property prices have been driven up to a level that no can afford it. i mean, that is the free market in operation? but it is difficult to intervene in that, isn't it? it's a horrible catch 22 example because of course, on the one hand, in the winter months, it's a bit of a ghost town and there's not much community, there's not much community, there's much work, but of there's not much work, but of course it's tourism is a huge part of economy. so it's a real catch 22. i mean, whenever we at this issue, we find complexity andifs this issue, we find complexity and it's one of the reasons why we see newton after u—turn and that building behind us over the last couple of months british has by 8 million since the has risen by 8 million since the year 2000. and you know, i've talked about open door talked a lot about open door immigration pressures immigration and the pressures that's we that's put, but either way we are now where we are . neither are now where we are. neither party, neither party seems that i what to do keep hearing of housing targets of up to 300,000 new builds every we never seem to reach more a couple of hundred thousand this year is

going to be below that i think a raft of environmental requirements that builders are struggling to meet. so what the big shot at and an idea what's the big idea that could help to begin to solve this crisis because it is a major crisis it is a major crisis. it is a you know , it's very, very difficult know, it's very, very difficult for any especially low middle income parent to be able to say to their kids, you've got a future ahead of you if you just put your head down and work hard because they'll say, well, show me an example of that and say, but what's the point of saving if beyond? yeah. and how can you save with a cost of save actually with a cost of living? is is it you know, living? is it is it you know, for many people, almost for many people, it's almost impossible to it. so my impossible to save it. so my idea, that we've idea, given the fact that we've got big problems, the got two very big problems, the housing has been a housing problem for long it's problem for long time. it's getting worse. we're getting worse and worse. we're facing economic gdp's facing severe economic gdp's p is made up over 20% of gdp is made up out housing. we're looking at, in my opinion, peak to trough house price falls of

35% over. i think roughly three years. so even though there's a shortage of stock because of rising interest rates and declining economics , a fall is declining economics, a fall is coming . a fall has begun. coming. a fall has begun. there's a there's a 6 to 9 month delay in the figures that we're getting from the land, because so with that thought, this is creating real problems for the government, economy for government, for the economy for jobs. already seeing an jobs. we're already seeing an upfick an uptick in unemployment, an increase redundancies. we're seeing job vacancies starting to fall . we've got reports out that fall. we've got reports out that a quarter of all households, 7 million households can't pay the energy bills. people income has been eviscerate it by the cost of living crisis . but cheaper of living crisis. but cheaper houses make it a bit easier to buy property despite all that. well whether you're buying or renting, i mean, most young people just aspire to be able to have home they can afford have home that they can afford to rent, let alone buy. so how do we satisfy that? well, i have spent time racking my spent a lot of time racking my brains this. the government brains over this. the government seems to borrow lots of money

for kinds of things if for all kinds of things and. if the were to borrow the government were to borrow money renting, rented money to build renting, rented housing, stock, floating on people which it kept and owned and made as affordable rental accommodation for people who are in full time employment or not, whatever, they would create competition for the private sector. they would create huge amounts of jobs. and by the way this would have to be high tech , high quality, long lasting home stock. right. so you creating actual medium to high level skills because a lot of technology involved in building now it's not just bricklaying right? there's a lot of technology. create technology. so you create massive would state massive it would be state employment it's a employment. well it's not a replacement for the private sector. it's actually to make the sector sharpen their the private sector sharpen their pencil. john, his big idea is government involved , starts government gets involved, starts to property on a very, to build property on a very, very scale. builds a lot very big scale. it builds a lot of increases level because of homes increases level because actually london's a very low level city compared most other cities do know what it's interesting interesting . i just interesting interesting. i just think government generally makes

absolute mess of everything it does have to be done well and that's the problem. yeah it's an intractable one. it's not good idea.thank intractable one. it's not good idea. thank you. interesting thanks, nigel . okay, we've got thanks, nigel. okay, we've got couple of minutes left. it's time for boro the garage. i've noidea time for boro the garage. i've no idea what you send in everyday, so let's give it a go. robert asks , do you think we robert asks, do you think we might all be able to talk about the united kingdom again now that sturgeon has gone? do you know what it's ? been a very, know what it's? been a very, very good day for those that believe in the union of the united kingdom. the one slight worry i've got the one slight worry i've got the one slight worry i've got is that's apparently the northern ireland renegotiation with brussels has been sitting on prime minister sunak desk for the last week, so it could be that the union scotland is stronger with the meltdown political meltdown of

sturgeon and the snp. but we may well still find that northern ireland effectively is cut off by a border in the irish sea. we'll have to wait and see. i don't know , but hey rishi, don't know, but hey rishi, you've done this great deal. why are you so reluctant to tell us about it next up lc asks how can people voice their discontent of the government from conservative or labour when we have no rights to disagree or protest against the narrative? what else ? look the narrative? what else? look the narrative? what else? look the fundamental about . and one the fundamental about. and one of the reasons i believed in brexit and self—government is that we vote for the people that really have the power to make laws and our country. and once four or five years we can get rid of the muppets and replace them with somebody else. so you know what? in a democracy you get the chance to replace who

can change the laws? my objection to the european model was we couldn't any european laws very quickly last one of your asks does vote of sturgeon and snp mean that an even greater for starmer at the next look today is today is being no doubt today is a birthday for in political terms for sir keir starmer the tories get no benefit at all from what's happened today for labour. it's been a really, really good day andifs been a really, really good day and it's been a good for me. i've enjoyed it thoroughly today . be back with you tomorrow night at 7:00. where the next. hello there , i'm greg hurst and hello there, i'm greg hurst and welcome to your latest from the met office . there will be rain met office. there will be rain in the forecast over the next few days turning particularly windy on friday. busting my for the time of year throughout looking at the pressure pattern low pressures in from the atlantic given the cloud and rain this low pressure in particular will give some very strong winds across scotland and northern as head

northern england as we head friday. met office warning friday. a met office warning already force for the rest of wednesday . we've got cloud and wednesday. we've got cloud and rain moving in from the atlantic. tony, quite atlantic. and this, tony, quite murky and overnight into murky and misty overnight into the early hours of thursday morning clear skies across scotland here. a touch of frost is possible. three or four degrees in the thames . cities degrees in the thames. cities close freezing in the close to freezing in the countryside. but elsewhere with the cloud and rain, temperatures staying well, freezing. that staying well, freezing. but that means cloudy start across much means a cloudy start across much of uk to start thursday of the uk to start thursday morning. outbreaks rain and drizzle, tricky driving conditions over the higher ground with hail, fog . best of ground with hail, fog. best of the though across the sunshine though across northern scotland. stays northern scotland. it stays sunny much of the day. sunny here for much of the day. showers across orkney and shetland slowly up and shetland elsewhere slowly up and if get any we could see highs if we get any we could see highs of 13 or 14 degrees so well above the average, around eighteen at this time of year into the evening time. further weather moves in from the atlantic spreading into northern ireland and scotland and then the winds start picking up dunng the winds start picking up during the early hours, combined with could with some heavy rain could lead to some tricky travel and

conditions for those up early friday morning, the met office warning coming in force from 5:00. as result, a lot of 5:00. as a result, a lot of cloud around winds picking cloud around the winds picking up here , eight nine as up here, eight or nine as a minimum temperature difference to we've seen over the last to what we've seen over the last few nights . so metservice few nights. so metservice warning for gusts of 60 to 70, possibly 75 miles an hour across the coasts of parts of scotland, north—east england to some tncky north—east england to some tricky commutes. first thing here elsewhere, cloudy england, wales into northern ireland, some patchy rain and gusty winds here too. temperatures on the mild side, 14 or 15 celsius. but the good news is it looks like as we head into the weekend, it should start to ease. so you can