hi there at 6:00. i'm michelle dewberry and this is dewbs& c0 dewberry and this is dewbs& co a show that i like to call britain's best debate program . britain's best debate program. did you see the news that was just released that the nurses

will now be going on strike for 48 hours in march, but get this, this is where it's different because now they'll be downing tools in a&e intensive care unit and cancer wards. tools in a&e intensive care unit and cancer wards . are you in and cancer wards. are you in there .7 do you sit there .7 just there? do you sit there? just help me understand this. how can you leave your patients in intensive care? how do you do that in the pursuit of money? what am i missing ? please help what am i missing? please help me figure this out because i'm really on with it. aren't you ? really on with it. aren't you? did you see the news that jeremy corbyn is being barred from standing in labour sorrowfully overin standing in labour sorrowfully over in islington off. he says it's a blatant attack on democracy . is it or not? and democracy. is it or not? and obviously the story about the academic that says that he feared for his life after being branded islamophobic . he had to branded islamophobic. he had to kind of carry things around to potentially use as weapons. you have to get a disguise and everything. he says that the

university didn't go far enough to protect him and that actually this whole kind of work culture is a scourge on academia. is it 7 is a scourge on academia. is it ? your thoughts on that and lee anderson says that the conservatives should face the next election first on culture war issues like trans rights, etc. do you agree with him? is that going to be the issue that tips the balance of the next general election? we'll get into all of that. but before we do so, let's cross over to polly middlehurst for tonight's latest headunes. middlehurst for tonight's latest headlines . thank you, michelle. headlines. thank you, michelle. well, let's tell you a little bit more about that strike action . the royal college of action. the royal college of nursing saying it will reduce england's nhs services to an absolute minimum when the new strike action takes place next month, which will include as well a&e staff more than 120 nhs employers will be affected on march the first, with staff walking out for 48 hours. previous strikes lasting just 12

hours. they'll also include staff working in previously exempted departments, including, as we said, emergency. and as michelle was saying, intensive care . the health secretary, care. the health secretary, steve barclay, is calling the action a significant escalation . but says the government is working with nhs england on continued and c plans for may as well. sir keir starmer has made a surprise visit to to ukraine meet with president zelenskyy the labour leader pledged that support for cave will continue if his party comes to power. sir keir also visited the cities of buka and appin where he was shown evidence of alleged atrocities committed by russian troops . during the trip, he troops. during the trip, he called for russia to face justice in the hague . throughout justice in the hague. throughout the conflict , the labour party the conflict, the labour party has stood united with the government in the united kingdom to show our support for ukraine and we will have an election next year and there may well be a change of government, but should there be a change of

government next year? in a general election there will be no position of no change in the position of support for ukraine, both during the conflict and in the calls for justice. let's just bring you some more detail now on that breaking news that you may have heard a few minutes ago in patrick's program, lancashire police referred themselves police have referred themselves to the police watchdog over contact with the force that was had with the missing mother, nicola pulley and paul ansell on january the 10th, prior to her disappearance. that comes after detectives revealed the 45 year old was vulnerable and that she had struggled with alcohol and the menopause. yesterday well, earlier today, police finally said the public focus seems now to be more about speculation into her private life, which they called appalling speculation , rather than speculation, rather than actually finding her. lancashire police has faced criticism for disclosing such personal information . labour say they'll information. labour say they'll recruit an extra 13,000 community police officers to tackle anti—social behaviour and

violent crime if they win the next election. the shadow home secretary unveiled plans for a neighbourhood policing guarantee which would assign officers and pcsos to every community. yvette cooper has criticised the conservatives for having a hands off approach to community policing . so i want to talk policing. so i want to talk today about what's been a complete collapse in home office leadership on crime and policing under the conservatives . how under the conservatives. how they've stood back while neighbourhood policing has crumbled. while the charge rate has plummeted . while confidence has plummeted. while confidence and policing and the criminal justice system have fallen, one more victims are being let down and more criminals are getting off . well, in response to that, off. well, in response to that, the immigration minister, robert jenrick, says the conservatives are already investing more funds than labour is promising. are already investing more funds than labour is promising . well, than labour is promising. well, labour's plans aren't credible. in fact they're 1/10 of the investment that we're making this year in frontline and

policing. the facts speak for themselves. we are on course to recruit 20,000 police officers by the end of march, and at that point there will be more frontline officers in this country than at any point in our history. several terror plots were foiled at the very last minute in 2022. according to counter—terrorism police, they called them close calls with some being described as go lines saves. the head of counter—terror rusholme policing said the would be attackers had picked targets and were gathering weapons when officers intervened. currently there's more than 800 live investigations and police have seen a rise in calls to their anti—terrorism hotline in the last year . the police watchdog last year. the police watchdog is reopening its probe into whether forces failed to properly investigate the serial rapist. david carrick . former rapist. david carrick. former met police officer has admitted 85 serious offences against women over a 17 year period. he was jailed for 30 years last

week . bedfordshire. sussex week. bedfordshire. sussex cambridgeshire, hertfordshire and met police forces had previously reviewed themselves and found no failures. the watchdog will now decide if investigating officers were perhaps influenced by carrick's status as a serving police constable . and a number of constable. and a number of people have died following the major earthquakes that hit southern turkey and northern syria last week now stands at more than 42,000. turkey's disaster and emergency authority says more than 4300 aftershocks have also hit the country since the initial quakes. 11 days alone. few survivors are being rescued and in some places the focus is moving away from finding people trapped and towards the recovery of bodies clearing rubble and rebuilding communities . you're up to date communities. you're up to date on tv, online and dab+ radio. this is gb news. it's time for dewbs& co .

dewbs& co. thanks for that, polly. well, i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through till 7:00 this evening and alongside me i've got charlotte pickles, the director of the reformed think tank, and our best who's the tank, and our best on who's the founder of novara welcome founder of novara media. welcome to of you. and you know the to both of you. and you know the drill. don't you? want you and co it's just about those co it's not just about those three. it's very much about you at home tonight . do get touch at home tonight. do get in touch with all your thoughts with me with all your thoughts this you reach me this evening. you can reach me on email, email at and want to emails. but anyway, the email is gbviews@gbnews.uk . or you can gbviews@gbnews.uk. or you can tweet me at gb news. lots of you already are getting in touch about that first topic, which is the nurses just announcing their 48 hour strike, which will include intensive care and a&e and all those kind of things. your thoughts really are coming in thick and fast on that. but i

also want to ask you tonight about jeremy corbyn. he says basically it's an attack on democracy, he not democracy, that he is not allowed to stand represent allowed to stand and represent the party . the next the labour party. the next election the right and also election is the right and also an academic who feared for his life after being branded islamic phobic. do we do enough to protect our academics , our protect our academics, our teachers? you know , teachers teachers? you know, teachers should be wandering around in fear for their life because they have had to deliver a module on islam or whatever it is. it's lunacy , isn't it? so your lunacy, isn't it? so your thoughts on some of those things, please. but let's get into our top story now because it's only just recently been announced in the last hour or so. i think that the nurses in england essentially have escalated up the ante when it comes to their strikes. they're going to walk out now for 48 hours march and get this hours in march and get this right. for first time ever , right. for the first time ever, workers in accident and emergency intensive care and cancer wards will be walking out . now, i have to say , this makes

. now, i have to say, this makes me incredibly sad. i'm going to come to you first on this, erin . my it's often my mom and sister are nhs nurses . so first sister are nhs nurses. so first and foremost i want them and earlier the nurses to be paid fairly right . however, the flip fairly right. however, the flip side of this , as a mom, i had side of this, as a mom, i had the misfortune to have a complicated pregnancy and my little boy was born very, very prematurely and spent a lot of time in intensive care, which was one of the most scary experiences of my life. there was one and one kind of nurse patient care because he was so ill . and the thought of my ill. and the thought of my little boy or anyone else being in intensive care and nurses just saying, you know , i want just saying, you know, i want a few hundred extra quid, so see you later. i'll figure it. it makes me i've got goose pimples now thinking about it, it makes me very sad, very upset. now thinking about it, it makes me very sad, very upset . and i me very sad, very upset. and i think it's wrong . what would you think it's wrong. what would you stand on? i well, i think the status quo is wrong. i mean, i

relate a story recently of a woman who had an ectopic pregnancy while she was working on her business. she was in a warehouse. she collapsed. she would have bled to death. she called an ambulance. it didn't arrive. she was found by her husband. died. husband. she would have died. i think, you hadn't turned up. think, if you hadn't turned up. there stories like there are lots of stories like that happening every day. one study there we're study out there says we're having hundreds surplus having five hundreds of surplus deaths because of lack deaths a week because of a lack of capacity nhs. that of capacity in the nhs. that speculation, we do is speculation, what we do know is we're around 47,000 nurses short, which means that this permanent crisis and incapacity in the nhs, their argument would be we need to increase pay to recruit more nurses to address those problems. so short term pain for long term gain, if you're absolutely right, hugely controversial and it's going to inconvenience people more than most strikes. right. if there's a rail strike, you can't go to work that day. but like you say, if woman miscarries on those days or somebody has a heart attack or a stroke, a serious if someone is going to go on strike and is a real pulse and there is a real pulse ability that someone could die

as a consequence of this , i as a consequence of this, i don't think they should be allowed to go on strike. so i do believe they should be believe that they should be something in emergency something mandated in emergency services to what is services as similar to what is in prison officers, in the police, prison officers, whatever that you you call on. if your job is literally life and death, then you can't strike. well, there are arguments that people are dying every day because of conservative underfunding in the national health service. that would be their argument. national health service. that would be their argument . they would be their argument. they would be their argument. they would bad things would say bad things are happening extraordinary happening to an extraordinary extent. look at, for instance, ambulance you ambulance waiting times. you know, people are calling ambulances. was awful ambulances. there was an awful story. gentleman who passed story. a gentleman who passed away, six, away, i think he waited for six, 7 hours an ambulance to 7 hours for an ambulance to arrive in the west country. he called his he spoke to him. called his son. he spoke to him. he the just he said, look, no, the just sending ambulance. don't sending an ambulance. don't worry, . it'll be worry, i'm fine. it'll be resolved. floor. resolved. he died on the floor. he was his eighties. he had he was in his eighties. he had multiple children. and you think this is happening a lot? and look, getting pay look, nurse is getting a pay rise. going to solve all rise. is it going to solve all of but do need to be of that? but we do need to be paying of that? but we do need to be paying more nurses in particular because of shortfall. like i because of the shortfall. like i say, nurses say, 46, 47,000 nurses and midwives, i support

midwives, too. so i support them. are you a nurse in particular? are you an intensive care nurse ? the cancer care care nurse? the cancer care nurse at ioannina ? if you are, nurse at ioannina? if you are, then tell me, how do you. i'm going to be really blunt. how do you live with yourself of looking at your patients and intense self care and literally walking out because you want more money? how do you live with yourself? i wouldn't be able to and i think that you're wrong. so tell me your thoughts . where so tell me your thoughts. where do you stand on it? charlotte i. i think you're right, michel. the ultimate early hour health professionals. our clinician is all there to save lives, to protect patients. and a 48 hour walk out with the threat of not providing cover . that walk out with the threat of not providing cover. that minimum service that you're talking about for those areas of the nhs , that literally means if you , , that literally means if you, you know, if a nurse isn't there , you could die as a result or

you could end up with a severe disability because you haven't been treated in time. and therefore i'm i'm sympathetic to therefore i'm i'm sympathetic to the argument that nurses want a fair pay deal of course they do, as does everybody. and every sector. but i think the risk involved of this sort of scale of strike is too much. but i do just want to pick karen up on a couple of points there because he on when said he was spot on when he said increasing nurses salaries isn't going to solve the sorts of issues that he was indicating there. so let's take those delays to ambulance times. we've seen a much bigger increase in ambulance staff since 2010 than sorry, since 2018 than we have donein sorry, since 2018 than we have done in demand for ambulances. so there are more staff than there are people calling out for ambulances . the problem is not ambulances. the problem is not staffing levels. the problem is not staffing levels in a&e, there are almost double the number of emergency medicine doctors in a&e than there were in and attendance a&e in 2010 and attendance a&e people turning up in 80 is has increased by nowhere near that.

the problem is social care and investment in social care. if you can't get people out of beds in hospitals and the problem is in hospitals and the problem is in the management of the hospital systems selves, that is nothing to do with the number of nurses or the number of doctors that are currently in hospitals. there are far more of them than there were a decade so we there were a decade ago. so we have be really careful when have to be really careful when we attribute certain problems have to be really careful when we iissuese certain problems have to be really careful when we tissues. certain problems have to be really careful when we tissues . you ain problems have to be really careful when we tissues . you know,»blems have to be really careful when we tissues . you know, noems and issues. you know, no question the nhs is in crisis at the moment, but it is not really to do with workforce . again, you to do with workforce. again, you can have a conversation about what pay level is. the what a fair pay level is. the average pay for nurses is just under £40,000, which is higher than national average. than the national average. but ultimately going to ultimately, if we're going to solve problem about the solve the problem about the crisis the make sure crisis in the nhs and make sure that that 80 year old that those that 80 year old gentleman actually been gentleman actually had been saved ended up saved and hadn't ended up tragically . it is not tragically dying. it is not about more personnel don't come back, not happily . about more personnel don't come back, not happily. i mean, my point wasn't about a lack of paramedics. have lots of paramedics. we have lots of paramedics. we have lots of paramedics with nurses in particular. i think three and four shifts are understaffed presently. and so is

presently. and so it is particularly with nurses that there are major understaffing, problems talk about problems you can talk about elsewhere nhs, it's elsewhere in the nhs, but it's particularly nurses. so particularly with nurses. so yes, are short staffed that yes, we are short staffed that when three and four when you've got three and four shifts short staffed, what shifts being short staffed, what does that mean? it basically means staffing and means that you're staffing and for your time and your for much of your time and your one behind you are an one know behind and you are an uphill it's very difficult to even a decent service, even provide a decent service, let good i've let alone a good one. i've had a few skirmishes with with emergency in the emergency health care in the last years. my family last couple of years. my family and i, it's nothing like it was ten years ago. it is falling apart that's, i think, apart now. that's, i think, anecdotal. maybe that's not typical, hear typical, but from what i hear elsewhere, the norm and elsewhere, it is the norm and the why is, yes, you know the reason why is, yes, you know , for various reasons , but the , for various reasons, but the principal one is a lack of nurses, very important in a&e. the principle is not a lack of nurses in a&e or a lack of doctors in a&e is the fact that we can't get people through a&e into the hospital because people aren't getting out of the hospital . the other that hospital. the other side, that is issue. you can look at is the issue. you can look at all in fact, we at all of the data. in fact, we at reform published on this reform published a paper on this just week. exactly on this just last week. exactly on this topic. and it's really i think,

important that we're on important that we're clear on what issues there what the issues are. now. there are huge shortages in are huge nurse shortages in community there are community health. there are massive primary care. massive issues in primary care. but this is about but again, none of this is about the strikes. we're talking about at the moment. and ultimately will this because even if we do nothing that's go on strike, of course. but the things around should you be staffing a&e, should you be staffing a&e, should you be staffing a&e, should you the critical should you be doing the critical care that type is affected care or that type is affected them, which which are the kind of the real question and is of the real question and it is interesting that effective or at least is employing least the coverage is employing that rcn the union which is that the rcn the union which is organising this has as basic come out and said it wasn't disruptive enough last time and that's we're more now that's why we're doing more now i that's the point a i get that's the point of a strike, right? you're trying to push side the push the other side to the table. get that table. you're trying to get that negotiation. what does that negotiation. but what does that mean in terms of when you're providing critical and providing critical life and death, and you're death, health care, and you're saying disruptive saying it wasn't disruptive enough? i'm profoundly uncomfortable . well, uncomfortable with that. well, yeah. think you a yeah. and i think you make a very good what what did very good point. what what did what they mean? do they mean what do they mean? do they mean people therefore, people didn't die? so therefore, let's next level let's take it to the next level . ratchet up, spencer. what of my it just been in touch

my view is it just been in touch saying michelle, you're missing the will never the point. they will never really do this. this is just a threat. i'm not so sure. i don't share your optimism . do you share your optimism. do you think spencer one of my think that spencer one of my view is, is that this will never happen. well, maybe spencer has a better understanding of the inner workings royal inner workings of the royal college of but i agree college of nurses. but i agree with you. i don't think you would . you'd play a card this , would. you'd play a card this, you know, politically controversial , because you're controversial, because you're right. the downside is if they go on strike for two days, 48 hours, and, you know, there are stories of particular people dying, which are hugely emotive , out into the papers , they get out into the papers and the tv. that's going and onto the tv. that's going a massive blows to aca. so massive blows to the aca. and so very big for them to very big decision for them to make. i don't think is make. i don't think this is a gamble. i want to just bring in some of my viewers here and just get this up on the screen, if possible, because so many people are in to me that i just are writing in to me that i just want to make sure i get as many as i possibly can, pauline, says. michelle if nurses and your money, then they wouldn't need to strike. need to be

need to strike. you need to be kind. well, let me just reiterate my mom and sister nhs nurses are who i love dearly by the way, so i'm very kind to nhs nurses , but i'm also very nurses, but i'm also very realistic . you talk about my realistic. you talk about my salary, i'm not paid for by the taxpayer . obviously nurses are salary, i'm not paid for by the taxpayer. obviously nurses are . taxpayer. obviously nurses are. we have a public pass it only has so much money in that pass and there's not, you know, goodness knows how many tens of thousands of me. so i don't really see the comparison. but i would like to think that i am kind and i certainly respect the nurse. the work that nurses do , nurse. the work that nurses do, richard says some of the nurses need reminding they do not go to work . they go on duty to serve work. they go on duty to serve the community. lib says. i am an nhs nurse and i feel uncomfortable with the strike escalation and in my opinion the lower balance of nursing staff do require increased salary. but not all bands. and i think you make a very interesting point there, just to remind you, by

there, just to remind you, by the way, what they are asking for is 5% above inflation and thatis for is 5% above inflation and that is their request. so that would current amount to about 18 also% obviously, it depends what your salary is in the first place, but that is where we currently are. diana says the withdrawal of a&e and intensive care is just shocking. now i'm in support of them having an increase, amount that increase, but the amount that they're is ludicrous they're asking for is ludicrous . nurses and doctors . angie says nurses and doctors must be banned from striking because lives are at stake . i because lives are at stake. i really kind of, because lives are at stake. i really kind of , janine says, if really kind of, janine says, if i was a nurse, sorry, i was a nurse and we never thought about striking its unprofessional and greedy. i considered it to be a privilege to train as a nurse and gareth says i've been an nhs nurse for over ten years now and i find it disgraceful that nurses are going on strike, especially , he says, within and especially, he says, within and a&e . michelle ellsworth if a&e. michelle ellsworth if i may, i think it is worth mentioning that half of the

trusts, the nhs providers that were balloted didn't meet the threshold for strike. so there clearly are plenty of masses out there that we got. my sense of it for strike, but the threshold wasn't . it was petrol up in it for strike, but the threshold wasn't. it was petrol up in hull . it wasn't that. yeah. so there are plenty of nurses though who, who are clearly uncomfortable because there are half of trust that aren't going to be striking because that threshold wasn't met. i think i think probably the area that our and i would definitely agree on you definitely agree on is that you do need a fair pay deal for nurses. you know, they are under pressure, doubt about pressure, there's no doubt about that. i that. and certainly i would argue similar me i can't argue similar to give me i can't remember a of us said remember which a few of us said this, but for those nurses on the lower pay bands, absolutely we should looking at that. we should be looking at that. but you go the top bay but if you go to the top bay bands, you know, chief nurses could anywhere around could be earning anywhere around £90,000. think not £90,000. and i think there's not that the that justification, given the pubuc that justification, given the public said, public purse as you said, michelle, the same michelle, for applying the same level at that end level of increase at that end that would say that you would do it, say someone who's around the sort of 25, 30,000 and the pay review body comes to this body when it comes to this sector, it's an independent pay

review they looked review body. and they looked into this and they suggested the pay into this and they suggested the pay rise, which the government accepted . this was made up of accepted. this was made up of independent people. it's not independent people. it's not independent pay review bodies , independent pay review bodies, and the people on them are determined by either the prime minister or government ministers. so as an independent and we have, i think, 12 of these bodies, i mean, you all know better than well, know this better than i. well, this bodies, one this many of these bodies, one thing don't understand is why thing i don't understand is why do we need so many bodies across the public sector you have do we need so many bodies across the orblic sector you have do we need so many bodies across the orblic seof,r you have do we need so many bodies across the orblic seof, what, you have do we need so many bodies across the orblic seof, what, 12?u have do we need so many bodies across the orblic seof, what, 12? ithave two or three of, what, 12? it just seems so strange to me. i mean, this whole independent peer review, we've got independent do have independent and why do we have so them? well, i would so many of them? well, i would answer i'm not i'm not answer that. and i'm not i'm not responsible for setting them. but would assume that but i would actually assume that you've a lot of you've got to have a lot of expertise sector at which expertise in the sector at which you're ruling the pay. you're actually ruling the pay. and if you're a one size fits all and i'm going to look across every single sector that there is found, you have is pretty much found, you have a depth knowledge enough to depth of knowledge enough to make based make a specific decision based on specifics sector on the specifics of that sector , that of people. well, , that group of people. well, there's right of there's only one right of

inflation have to inflation that we all have to pay- inflation that we all have to pay. we have to you know, pay. we all have to you know, we're subject the same we're all subject to the same interest rates with regards to mortgages, think mortgages, etc, etc. so i think 12 quite excessive. but my 12 seems quite excessive. but my point principally point anyway, principally is that independent. that they're not independent. that that chosen by government. now fine, fine. now you might say fine, fine. that's that's good. the government by government is elected by the people and, you know, they're not independent. think not independent. do you think the have caused the conservatives have caused this the nhs? that this mess within the nhs? that is question. you know what is a big question. you know what i thought they would do when this kicked i thought this first kicked off? i thought they nurses a big pay they would give nurses a big pay rise. they're asking rise. not what they're asking folks above inflation is folks is 3% above inflation is 5. sorry for my apologies. five the above inflation, you know, inflation was is going down now. but at one point a 12th, 13, but at one point in a 12th, 13, i thought they'd give them a really rise and pay. and really big pay rise and pay. and then you the then basically, you know, the middle thing, it's the rest of the public sector. i thought they that. and i think they would do that. and i think they're for a they're not doing that for a bunch reasons. but i think bunch of reasons. but i think it's very politically it's also very politically dangerous because dangerous for them because the nhs falling apart. you know, nhs is falling apart. you know, this thing to talk this is thing we need to talk about as well. yes, of course for those 48 hours it's going to be terrible. but people are

suffering on a basis suffering on a daily basis because the organisation doesn't have the resources and the capacity needs . and in capacity that it needs. and in terms of nursing being a privilege, i love it to be privilege, i would love it to be a it should be a privilege. it should be a privilege. but in the real world, a nurse graduates with £56,000 worth student £56,000 worth of student debt. in country. it's not in this country. so it's not a privilege you know, we financialized we financialized everything. we made about money. you made everything about money. you can't then say, oh, can't do that and then say, oh, it's a privilege. yeah, think it's a privilege. yeah, i think if you're going to go into be a nurse or whatever, i don't think you should have any tuition fees at but and here's the book. at all. but and here's the book. i then be i think you should then be locked you have to pay for locked in. you have to pay for the nhs. i would train you the nhs. so i would train you for but would retain for free, but i would retain you. wouldn't let you go you. i wouldn't let you go wandering australia wandering off to say australia or wherever. i would make you free training. but you're in. you give me your thoughts on all of it, quite frankly. how are you feeling tonight? because i, for feel very sad having for one, feel very sad having beenin for one, feel very sad having been in those intense care units. i feel sad at the thought of people just walking out of them. hopefully we'd still be able to get some cover from somewhere. whether it's non striking or whatever, striking nurses or whatever, i

don't know. but just i wouldn't be to at myself in the be able to look at myself in the mirror if one of those mirror if i was one of those people that abandoned those wards. maybe that's just me. let me know. views. gb news. .uk. me know. gb views. gb news. .uk. right. have a quick right. i'm going to have a quick break. when i come i'll break. when i come back, i'll have some your thoughts on have some of your thoughts on that but also going that topic. but i'm also going to and ask you about to move on and ask you about jeremy corbyn. he's not going to be to stand represent be allowed to stand to represent the in the next the labour party in the next election. basically it election. he basically says it is on democracy. your is an attack on democracy. your thoughts ? so want .

to hi there. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company at home till 7:00 this evening alongside me , i've got charlotte alongside me, i've got charlotte pickles, the director of the reform think tank and i'm in boston and the founder of navarre media. lots of you getting in contact about that last conversation. something that's made me incredibly sad today , which is the news that today, which is the news that the nurses are going have

the nurses are going to have a 48 hour strike and this time they will walk out of a&e, intensive care units, cancer care units, etc. peta says nhs is the fire service and the police all essential services should be protected within inflation. pay a wage rise. it is the government's job to control inflation or if they can pay control inflation or if they can pay the increase while you can keep your thoughts coming in. vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address, but for now i'm going to move on. jeremy corbyn has accused keir starmer of attack on democracy after he was blocked from standing as a labour candidate at the next election . starmer's confirmed election. starmer's confirmed that he won't be able to stand. of course, just as a reminder is unked of course, just as a reminder is linked to, nor is his seat. let me pick up with you on this. do you back starmer? do you think it's right to block ? corbyn no , it's right to block? corbyn no, i think the framing here from jeremy corbyn is entirely correct . he is still just let correct. he is still just let youn correct. he is still just let your, you know, your audience know that he's still a labour party member. i think that's not

often communicated enough. so he's been suspended the he's not been suspended from the labour lost the whip he's not been suspended from the laia ur lost the whip he's not been suspended from the laia member lost the whip he's not been suspended from the laia member of lost the whip he's not been suspended from the laia member of parliament, hip he's not been suspended from the laia member of parliament, keir as a member of parliament, keir starmer seeking the starmer said. when seeking the leadership in the labour party in 2020 that he would end the imposed mission by the labour party. and party. any say of candidates and guess doing right now, guess what he's doing right now, he'll back he'll be imposing an nsc back candidate and islington. and i think for me it's reminiscent of his position on brexit. keir starmer and people him starmer and people like him within the permanent political class something go class when something doesn't go their way , well, they like their way, well, they don't like something. say, you know something. they say, you know what, people don't what, the little people don't matter. just matter. we'll just ride roughshod them. and think roughshod over them. and i think this the same thing and it this is the same thing and it doesn't it's doesn't matter whether it's jeremy or somebody else . jeremy corbyn or somebody else. the the the labour leadership across the country is fixing long country right now is fixing long lists to exclude lists basically to exclude certain from being able certain people from being able to from various of the to run from various parts of the party. and it's outrageous. and i can sit here as somebody who's on the left and say, frankly, the conservative party with its candidates is more democratic . candidates is more democratic. when party, it's when the labour party, it's extorting marie. and we hear from like keir starmer, from people like keir starmer, well, if i become the prime minister, i'll redistribute power away .

power or will give power away. well, if you're rigging short lists and long lists, how are you going to giving power away is my main criticism, actually, of of lords reform. is my main criticism, actually, of know, of lords reform. is my main criticism, actually, of know, i'd of lords reform. is my main criticism, actually, of know, i'd love rds reform. is my main criticism, actually, of know, i'd love to reform. is my main criticism, actually, of know, i'd love to seem. is my main criticism, actually, of know, i'd love to see an. you know, i'd love to see an elected house of lords, but realistically, if it's all lackeys water carriers that lackeys and water carriers that the wants, then the labour leader wants, then what's and i think what's the point? and i think this of with that. so this is of a piece with that. so he's absolutely right. this is this what party leaders this is not what party leaders should doing. it's for should be doing. it's for constituents party members constituents and party members to decide who their representatives keir representatives are not. keir starmer shadow i think there are several questions i haven't and i don't know the ins and outs of a kind of labour selection process and candidate a allocations and are spelled out obviously why you know you do want party members to be able to have a real say in who their represent representative is in parliament. but i do i guess a couple of observations . maybe couple of observations. maybe so. one, i don't understand how you could, you know , i think we you could, you know, i think we could all agree that if jeremy corbyn stands as a as a labour candidate, he's probably going to get elected . but then he

to get elected. but then he can't be a labour mp because he doesn't have the whip. so i don't understand how you can stand as a labour candidate, but then you couldn't be a labour mp, which is essentially in my bafic mp, which is essentially in my basic of this, the basic reading of this, the position. that sort of seems position. so that sort of seems rather absurd to me . i don't rather absurd to me. i don't really see how it's anti—democratic because, you anti —democratic because, you know, anti—democratic because, you know, we as citizens have a right to vote for a candidate. jeremy corbyn has the right to stand that independent. therefore the people in islington can elect him as an independent. so i'm not really sure it's anti sure why it's anti anti—democratic of anti—democratic in a kind of bigger sense , but also more bigger sense, but also more fundamentally for the labour party, know , this really party, you know, this really isn't a local candidate issue, you know, just kind of being realistic here, right? jeremy corbyn is a massive national figure and comes with an whole load of baggage, what have you think about him and whatever you think about him and whatever you think about him and whatever you think about him, he, he comes with a lot of baggage and most of the analysis post the 2019 election which he lost i mean miserably for the labour party, massive conservative landslide .

massive conservative landslide. most of that analysis post—election identified corbyn as being one of the biggest factors that turned people away from the labour locally in a seat that is hugely popular. he is. but the problem that keir starmer has as the leader of the labour party is that he is trying to position the labour party nationally as a credible , party nationally as a credible, all electable party to govern the country. and so, so this is where i don't think you can split the local and the national corbyn is a national figure. he comes to a lot of national baggage. he doesn't have the labour whip . i just think that labour whip. i just think that systematic . well, i mean systematic. well, i mean i couldn't possibly judge that, but he certainly certainly the labour party institutionally was deemed anti—semitic and we've just heard this week, i think that labour has come out of special measures which the equality in human rights commission put them in because they said they found unlawful behaviour and huge failing things in the way that the party had under corbyn dealt or not

deau had under corbyn dealt or not dealt with cases of anti—semitism or allegations of antisemitism. so i don't know because i'm not a member of the labour party of not experienced obviously any anti semitism as a result of it, but certainly the hrc to be put in special measures because you've been discriminatory is a pretty big deal under corbyn's watch. all of my view is pace, which has gotten such so much, so since when does the tail wag the dog is a political party is a is also a political party is a choose its mp based on suitability and in accordance with core views. corbyn with labour's core views. corbyn is not entitled to free is not entitled to a free election ticket . he could stand election ticket. he could stand as an independent. many as an independent. like many others wanted to. i'm sure others if he wanted to. i'm sure he but the point is, he's he will. but the point is, he's a he's a labour member so he's not been expelled from the party. been expelled party. if he'd been expelled from this is an from the party, this is an entirely different conversation to made about to get on the points made about case is allowed to case right there is allowed to be a labour party member. he's been allowed in. there's been a submission evidence and submission of evidence for and against which by the against and a panel which by the way, think they're

way, i think they're actually starmer letting starmer loyalists letting back in. and i think at the time the leadership was quite about leadership was quite angry about it. know, i believe in it. so you know, i believe in due they've due process. they've seen arguments against. i've arguments for and against. i've not to, so i don't not been privy to, so i don't know in terms of him him not being able to stand because of 2019. labour got 32% in 2019. well, labour got 32% in 2019. well, labour got 32% in 2019. in 2015. and 2019. they got 30% in 2015. and ed does that mean ed miliband, does that mean ed miliband from miliband eastern bloc from running or gordon brown? running again or gordon brown? he got gordon brown got 29.5. so that seems a very unfair argument. and you're absolutely right. and that's a perfectly reasonable argument to make. and obviously, there's all sorts of complications around, you know, the that you can increase the fact that you can increase massively of vote massively the amount of the vote and get, you know, and still don't get, you know, this debate around our this whole debate around our electoral system. my point was more you looked at what more that if you looked at what and a purely political and this is a purely political point, you if keir point, if you if you keir starmer into starmer trying to get into government at the next election. this is not about you know whether this is morally the right or democratically right thing or democratically the if your the right thing. but but if your keir starmer the leader keir starmer is the leader of the party you have the labour party and you have evidence that corbyn was a big factor in people moving away from you know, he's

from your party, you know, he's most of the polling seems to show the polling to show all the polling seems to show all the polling seems to show he the biggest factor show he was the biggest factor was brexit which by way was brexit which by the way yougov polling clearly showed that in there'll be lots of polls but let's just say he was. i know i know what you know what gb news viewers will think and it's brexit and this is the thing that the media can't talk about hbos banks and keir about was hbos banks and keir starmer oh, that's just starmer was the oh, that's just not the evidence to not the evidence points to corbyn fan. of corbyn being a massive fan. of course was the primary. we course he was the primary. we know reason know this. the primary reason was the reason we was brexit and the reason we know this is because there was a political the brexit party and when it didn't run, that's what sealed the it's not the in sealed the deal. it's not the in political finish political let me just finish finish so go ahead because finish so i'll go ahead because in political punditry to in political punditry we love to make things so make these things so complicated. it called the complicated. it was called the brexit labour on brexit election. labour on the wrong of constituent wrong side of 400 constituent forces because forces which voted leave because this genius keir starmer, wanted to policy to subvert the party policy so he leader and he he could become leader and he has. let's not say brexit has. but let's not say brexit shouldn't play a role. in 2019 it was all jeremy about it was all jeremy comments about brexit. that was brexit. i didn't think that was the number one thing. it was, but at some of the but if you look at some of the

analysis so for example, as i say, yougov who analysed the people who from to people who swung from labour to conservative, one conservative, the number one factor and second was factor was corbyn and second was brexit. for brexit. absolutely i'm not for one suggesting that one moment suggesting that brexit big issue and brexit wasn't a big issue and actually corbyn sort of, you know, vagueness on the subject i think probably also factor know, vagueness on the subject i thut probably also factor know, vagueness on the subject i thut itrobably also factor know, vagueness on the subject i thut it was )ly also factor know, vagueness on the subject i thut it was also also factor know, vagueness on the subject i thut it was also just.so factor know, vagueness on the subject i thut it was also just people :tor , but it was also just people didn't believe what he was saying. antisemitism saying. the antisemitism allegations big role . allegations played a big role. you reported on the you know, people reported on the doors, you know , as a people doors, you know, as a people knocking on doors. reporter saying, i don't like corbyn. corbyn gives some strong anecdotal evidence this because i ran in a 2019 election for the brexit party. so i was one of the people knocking on those doors and i had and it was traditionally a labour seat right ? and so many people told right? and so many people told me , so many people i've always me, so many people i've always voted labour all my life, but i don't like corbyn. but moving on from that, one of the things that i found interesting, corbyn put a statement out today on his twitter account, etc. and i saw

interesting comment in response to one of these. and he was saying , what's going on with saying, what's going on with corbyn now is one of the biggest cases of institution and bullying played out on a public stage and i thought that was quite interesting. do you agree with that? oh, how 100. and this has been hung out to dry. you don't have to like him. i think he made many mistakes. the political you know, political leader, you know, i like he didn't win. but like winners. he didn't win. but the reality is, the way he's treated by some of his colleagues appalling. treated by some of his coll

it of the stuff that i it was some of the stuff that i experienced, put me off them for life . have do something life. i'll have to do something special pull my vote out the special to pull my vote out the back. that would be for show anyway, got take a quick anyway, i've got to take a quick break. of you getting break. lots of you getting in touch corbyn thing, so touch about the corbyn thing, so i'll of your thoughts i'll have some of your thoughts in a second. but when i do come back, i want to talk to you about do think we about academics. do you think we doing protect them at one doing not to protect them at one guy sharing his story guy has been sharing his story about how it's how to wander around with with a disguise fearing life after he fearing for his life after he was complained apparently was complained for apparently being your being islamophobic. your thoughts? you .

in two. hello there. welcome back to dewbs & co with me, michelle dewbs& co with me, michelle dewberry keeping you company right through until 7:00 tonight. alongside me, charlotte pickles is the director of the reform. think tank and ivan bustani is the founder of novara media . janice, we've just been

media. janice, we've just been talking about corbyn and whether or not he should be allowed to run as a labour candidate. janice says. nobody says that he can't stand for election. they just said wasn't welcome in just said he wasn't welcome in that he could as an that club. he could stand as an independent he's confident independent if he's confident that richard says . i that he'd win, richard says. i labour sue is the council and corbyn that's a shot from the second party and says i oppose everything that corbyn stands for, but i will always defend his right to present those views to the electorate . bernard says to the electorate. bernard says no matter what party, there's always someone in the background take you out. if you don't fit that narrative . and michael that narrative. and michael says, i am a conservative safe. but what the labour party are doing to this man is criminal. there should be ashamed of themselves . well, they go right themselves. well, they go right . let's move on. do you think we put we do enough to protect academics who get attacked at their work ? the reason i'm their work? the reason i'm asking you this is a lecturer at bristol university. this is a fascinating story, by the way, if you're not already across it. he's saying he effectively went into after of his into hiding after some of his teaching denounced by

teaching was denounced by students. guessed it , students. as you guessed it, islamophobic. an inquiry basically said that he'd not done anything wrong. this chap's called stephen greer . it's been called stephen greer. it's been an academic for very long an academic for a very long time. instead the inquiry basically is saying that is he was fine, he wasn't doing anything wrong. he wasn't doing the things that he was accused of. and it's such a fascinating story. this is a guy's a granddad now and he describes he has to go into hiding pretty much. he has to disguise himself. he has to carry items around, perhaps uses weapons. he feels that he was in danger. and this was all because he taught this was all because he taught this module covert things like the charlie hebdo situation. what do you make, too? it's shallow . i what do you make, too? it's shallow. i think it's a real, really, really sad position we find ourselves in when part of the point of university should be to expand young people's minds. and actually what we seem to be doing is narrowing them

andidea to be doing is narrowing them and idea that i mean , in this and idea that i mean, in this instance in particular is, you rightly said they were actually to investigate actions into this academic, both of which said these accusations are entirely baseless. there was an investigation and the appeal against and a qc looked at it. so, you know, it's a pretty high level of investigation. you're going to have said there's just no no case here to answer. and yet the university seemed to yet the university he seemed to have him under the bus have thrown him under the bus because of some did not to because of some they did not to this module . exactly despite the this module. exactly despite the fact and fact that it was. yeah and that's exactly is the example about narrowing mind rather than expanding them and you know, this isn't the first case, is it? because, you know, i'm sure your viewers will be very familiar with the name kathleen stock, that was stock, who felt that it was a sort you know, she was sort of you know, she was hounded out of her university. this was in relation to her views on on gender identity. and i don't think i'm about a schoolteacher by the way, who was sent off into hiding. he was and i dread to think what happened to him. i hope he's all

right. wherever he is now. so you know, this is, as you say, not the first. and i worry sadly it won't be the last either. but the government are i mean, you know, the important, i think to mention is the government do actually have a bill going through parliament at the moment, higher moment, which is the higher education speech education freedom of speech bill. actually is well, bill. and it actually is well, if gets an act, it will if it gets made an act, it will place a duty universities to place a duty on universities to promote of speech. it promote freedom of speech. it will on student will place a duty on student unions, freedom of unions, promote freedom of speech. allow the speech. and it will allow the office students, which is a office for students, which is a sort of regulator, to fine universities that don't promote freedom of speech . and it has freedom of speech. and it has a clause in it which would allow these individuals who have been persecuted and cancelled or hounded out to actually seek financial compensation for those from those institutions if they didn't act to promote freedom of speech. so the bill through, i think, is a really good thing. you know, the question is, should should we be doing more to protect these academics? absolutely actually, for absolutely and actually, for once, there is some legislation going parliament is going through parliament is designed to do that. yeah. and

by this fellow's by the way, this fellow's module, was teaching it a module, it was teaching it a module, it was teaching it a module islam china and the module on islam china and the far east, it dropped so that far east, it was dropped so that muslim students would feel muslim students would not feel that has been that their religion has been singled out or in any way altered by the class material . altered by the class material. our own thoughts, please, completely agree. it's ridiculous if you don't want to be challenged , if you don't want be challenged, if you don't want to be confronted with ideas you don't agree with, don't go to university. he's making you do it . i just university. he's making you do it. i just find this all very puzzling. i it's examples puzzling. i it's the examples you have said them in particular with islamophobia. yes, of course. there are issues with islamophobia, bigotry, and they should be confronted, but particularly with universities and the teaching environment, you comes through you know, progress comes through disagreement and debate. now, that's science know, that's how we science you know, the people copernicus and the people like copernicus and galileo, said controversial galileo, they said controversial things in that time. and actually they were right. and the attacking them were the people attacking them were wrong. know, another one is wrong. you know, another one is with the sharia definition, non semitism. this a thing now in universities where it's not adopted definition then adopted this definition then automatically their cost is

antisemites, which again in terms of compromising freedom of speech, freedom of political expression, i find remarkable . expression, i find remarkable. if you don't accept this, defend mission of something, therefore you are racist. and this has become look , ten years ago, this become look, ten years ago, this stuff was super marginal. this is moved to the very centre is now moved to the very centre of political culture. it's terrifying and again, i say this as on the left, but i as someone on the left, but i know we live in the real world. you meet people who you disagree with the time. sometimes with all of the time. sometimes it's and you just it's annoying and then you just talking to them. so that would be my suggestion. some of these people cause you know, honestly, some me feel some of the story makes me feel a bit depressed about a little bit depressed about the future, sheila one future, not the lie. sheila one of is she has been in of my view is she has been in touch saying, unfortunately this where it the majority of students off the iq of students are going off the iq of an amoeba . tony says seminal an amoeba. tony says seminal question, michel, is freedom of speech an absolute or is it a variable determined by whatever prevailing socio political narrative is dominant in law and whereby transgressors can be

punished ? well, good question, punished? well, good question, tony. i'll let you guys ponder it for 2 minutes and you can get your thoughts over to me on that one in the break. coming up when i return from the break, tory party deputy chair lee anderson says that the tories should fight the next election on culture, war and trying issues. do you agree with him? give me your thoughts and i'll see you .

in two. hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co. with me, michelle dewberry. i'm keeping you company until 7:00 tonight. alongside me, charlotte pickles is the director of the reform think tank. and i'm in boston is the founder of novara media. welcome back, everybody . let's welcome back, everybody. let's have a look at what you all saying, michelle. we're just talking then about academics and free speech and all the rest of it. michelle, isn't that berkeley teacher still in

hiding, of his life? hiding, fearful of his life? well, i don't know where he is. no one seems know he no one seems to know where he is. an turn of is. that an awful turn of events? have to say ? henry events? i have to say? henry says we're all going to we all get depressed, michel, about what's to happen in the future, because none of it is for the good at this rate. oh, yeah. i hear what you're saying. i'm sure there is lots of good, though. i will try and find out. i say with your positive i always say with your positive news but it's really hard news story, but it's really hard to find positive news these days. anyway, on. days. but anyway, let's move on. the tory party is newly appointed deputy chair lee and anderson. he's always in the headlines. he? anderson. he's always in the healthis�*s. he? anderson. he's always in the healthis time he? anderson. he's always in the healthis time is he? anderson. he's always in the healthis time is because he? anderson. he's always in the healthis time is because he's e? but this time is because he's focusing on how to win the next general says that general election. he says that basically tories are going basically the tories are going to to of something to need to think of something else as all the great ingredients. the party is one it's campaigning on in 2019, a gong.so it's campaigning on in 2019, a gong. so he reckons the focus needs on things like needs to be on things like cultural rules and stuff like the trans conversation , etc. if the trans conversation, etc. if the trans conversation, etc. if the tories want to win the next election, is he right? charlotte i don't think he is. no, i think most people are waking up in the

morning thinking about can they pay morning thinking about can they pay the bills, is their job secure? can their granny get a hip replacement? she needs all the all their kids going to the kit, all their kids going to have a better future than them. so, no, i think for the the conservatives to win the next general election, they need a economy. they need to be having an economy that creates good jobs. they need to sort out the collapsing services collapsing public services we have country . they have in this country. they should competence so should show competence so they can interests of can govern in the interests of the people. that's said no doubt . there are aspects of it that would play very well. you know, for example , clearly the party for example, clearly the party is going to have to try and get to grips with the small boat and that particular challenge within the immigration kind of the illegal immigration kind of debate . and i do think some of debate. and i do think some of the trans stuff, not the kind of, you know, the sort of on both sides, the sort of super kind of arguments, but the basic things like can women have say, can women have all female spaces that sort of stuff i think will resonate. and that and that will be important. but the idea of

you, a culture war, i mean, it's kind of in the name, it's just so profoundly helpful in a country that's already so divided. it is unhelpful. but at the same time, when you do have a party leader who comes a labour party leader who comes out with lines like, you know, women could have a penis or what is a woman, well, that's all. i mean, that's a little bit ridiculous , isn't it? and a lot ridiculous, isn't it? and a lot of people will sit there and say, you know what, there's no real major difference anymore between a lot of these big parties. so actually, not parties. so actually, why not ang parties. so actually, why not bring to this kind of bring it down to this kind of conversation ? you even conversation? you don't even know is. you're not know what a woman is. you're not getting vote. well i think getting my vote. well i think the problem with keir starmer is he and that he can't he says that and that he can't explain his thinking. i think if he could his thinking he could explain his thinking and that's a very clever and i think that's a very clever sort of way he can explain it personally. a trans personally. i think a trans woman woman. i don't think woman is a woman. i don't think he's top those arguments. he's on top of those arguments. i being said to he's i think he's being said to he's being something or being told to say something or i he to say something within he has to say something within the party. i don't think he knows the thinking behind it. i think if did, then people think if he did, then people would well, on that

would say, well, i agree on that or disagree on that, it's or i disagree on that, but it's not that deep with keir starmer in terms of this piece. really interesting. that the interesting. he says that the things it for the things that won it for the tories win big in tories and they did win big in 2019 brexit, boris and 2019 was brexit, boris and corbyn. i would one more corbyn. i would add one more which loving, levelling up. corbyn. i would add one more whici loving, levelling up. corbyn. i would add one more whici think'ing, levelling up. corbyn. i would add one more whici think mostevelling up. corbyn. i would add one more whici think most people| up. corbyn. i would add one more whici think most people outside and i think most people outside of london, outside the big cities time, a long cities the first time, a long time they had a voice time felt heard they had a voice and felt that that was and they felt that that was a national mission of renewal in the uk. that's gone. the conservatives that. conservatives have lost that. that's is so that's why that polling is so terrible. but i think if you just talk about cultural, then you're about that you're not talking about that stuff. that high stuff. people want that high street to $1,000,000, street to look $1,000,000, right? nothing it right? it looks nothing like it did. 30 years ago. and of course, like i say, public services and that needs to services and wages that needs to be addressed. this to me is almost admission of failure. so i be fascinated and a lot i will be fascinated and a lot can happen between and the can happen between now and the next election. but next general election. but i would fascinated to see what would be fascinated to see what the turnout is in next the turnout is in the next election many election because i think so many people now are just kind of fed up with it all and they think, you what, voted in 2019 you know what, we voted in 2019 perhaps for the tories for the first time. look state first time. look at the state that the country has got itself

into. lot of people i into. and i a lot of people i worry wouldn't turn out. i personally think you should have a pr referendum before the next general and general election and try and create a reason, a connection with voters to try and get them turning out. because if they sit there and think is literally the point, i don't want and i don't want tory and that's what we're going to end up with. i just won't go ballot box. so won't go to the ballot box. so i would have a referendum on proportional representation would have a referendum on proportionalrepresentation i proportional representation if i was the country. was in charge of the country. anyway, look at the time anyway, i look at the time absolutely flies, doesn't it, when are having fun trans when you are having fun trans rights is a minority issue. stop talking about it, michelle, please lee anderson. so can i ask the point here? more people go fishing than change genders. why is talking fishing? says nigel . maybe why is talking fishing? says nigel. maybe that will go on another day. i think. but for now, no fishing, colin, said. michelle lou, the day you said she was a working class person working fast. people don't wear dresses like that, they ? dresses like that, don't they? why? i'll call him a cup of tracksuit tomorrow anyway . that

tracksuit tomorrow anyway. that is all we've got time for our own charlotte. thank you very much. have a nice night, everyone. i'll see you tomorrow . hello there . i'm greg to has . hello there. i'm greg to has the welcome to our latest broadcast from the met office well stolen auto will move across the uk in the next 24 hours, bringing some very strong winds, particularly across parts of scotland northern of scotland and northern england. can see that on the england. we can see that on the pressure pattern for the next 24 hours named by the danish met, this system will bring some very strong gusts of up to 80 strong winds gusts of up to 80 miles an or so. cross miles an hour or so. cross exposed parts of scotland already pushing in this evening across scotland, northern ireland, cloudy across england and and patchy rain over and wales and patchy rain over the higher ground to the winds increasing during the early hours, 60, 70 miles an hour, hours, 50, 60, 70 miles an hour, perhaps locally as we head towards dawn. but a mild night due to the in the wind temperatures starting friday in double well above where double figures well above where they be for the time of they should be for the time of yeah they should be for the time of year. and windy start, year. a wet and windy start, some disruption possible met office in force cloudy office warnings in force cloudy across england wales during the

day. rain sinking south day. patchy rain sinking south but brightening up across the north of uk. blustery north of the uk. blustery showers , the eventually showers, the winds eventually easing later on. but do take care if travelling through the course of the day exceptionally mild 1516 celsius despite the cloud and the wind across many parts of the uk into the evening time, the next weather system starts moving in this system, not as windy, but there will be some heavy rain associated with this pushing in across scotland, northern ireland, some hail snow possible quite across possible to staying quite across england and wales as we head into the early hours . this into the early hours. this slowly starting to push through . as a result, temperatures again frost free for many, perhaps just getting close to freezing for one or two spots of scottish to start saturday morning , a scottish to start saturday morning, a mixed scottish to start saturday morning , a mixed start to the morning, a mixed start to the day we've got spells of rain to begin with, but they should start to as we push through start to ease as we push through the allowing clouds the morning, allowing the clouds to sunnier breaks to break and some sunnier breaks to break and some sunnier breaks to develop the best of these across northern of across northern parts of scotland. patchy scotland. that's some patchy rain southern scotland. rain across southern scotland. northern time ,

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