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channel good evening . tonight i will be good evening. tonight i will be having my future read live on air and also maybe get a feel for what's in store for the future of our country. then i'm going to be asking. the woke era may finally be coming to an end . a donne . holbein god. may finally be coming to an end . a donne. holbein god. is this the end of the world? cococay and speaking of corbin , how the and speaking of corbin, how the socialist been betrayed by labour ? where will the unions labour? where will the unions turn to now ? then finally , i turn to now? then finally, i will dish it out with narinder kaun will dish it out with narinder kaur. stay tuned for that. and
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don't forget, most importantly, i want to hear from you. send me your views at tv. new vaiews@gbnews.uk those of fox on twitter. that's all coming up after the headlines with tatyana . michelle's. after the headlines with tatyana . michelle's . good evening at . michelle's. good evening at 7:00. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the prime minister says we haven't got a deal yet as he vowed to continue negotiating with the european commission on the northern ireland protocol . rishi sunak ireland protocol. rishi sunak held talks with stormont leaders this morning to try to resolve post—brexit trading arrangements. he'll meet eu leaders in germany tomorrow amid speculation a deal could be unveiled early week. the dup says progress has been made but mr. sunak says there's more work to do. well the test that i've set myself is that we protect northern ireland's place in our internal market, that we protect the belfast of friday agreement,
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that we resolve the practical issues, that the protocol is causing families and businesses in northern ireland, and crucially, that we address democratic deficit. those are the issues that we need to work through and that's what my ministerial colleagues and i will to the eu about will be talking to the eu about . police . lancashire police has confirmed it's going to conduct an internal review into the nicola bulley investigation. it's after the home secretary suella braverman questioned why the force's disclosed details of the force's disclosed details of the missing mum's private life dunng the missing mum's private life during a news conference . during a news conference. lancashire police has said she'd suffered some significant issues with alcohol in the past and struggles with menopause , then struggles with menopause, then referred itself to the police regulator . around 1500 ambulance regulator. around 1500 ambulance workers in wales will now join almost 10,000 gmb members across england in a strike on monday. it's after the gmb union announced that staff in wales had reject it an offer from the welsh government . meanwhile, welsh government. meanwhile, ambulance workers in the west midlands have taken to the
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picket lines today, with patients facing yet more delays as a result . patients facing yet more delays as a result. members of patients facing yet more delays as a result . members of the patients facing yet more delays as a result. members of the gmb and unions are staging the walkout in a long running dispute over pay and staffing . dispute over pay and staffing. the department for transport has announced a cap on bus fares in england will be extended by three months. th e £2 cap, which three months. the £2 cap, which appues three months. the £2 cap, which applies more than 130 bus companies outside of london , was companies outside of london, was due to end in march . but that's due to end in march. but that's been extended until the end of june.the been extended until the end of june. the aim is to increase passenger numbers, but also to help bus users during the cost of living crisis . people have of living crisis. people have been warned they could be without power for more than 48 hours after storm. otto swept across scotland and north england. scottish and southern electricity networks have said 16,000 properties are still without power, whilst more than 27,000 have had supplies restored. the met office says winds as high as 80 miles per hour have been recorded, causing
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trains and flights to be cancelled and schools in some parts of scotland had to be closed . tv online and the 80 closed. tv online and the 80 plus radio you're with gb news. now it's back to laurence fox . now it's back to laurence fox. ding dong , the sturgeons gone. ding dong, the sturgeons gone. pun intended. so is it the end of the world as we know it? it is surprising how many lost memories from childhood back up to the forefront of our minds when is our time to. become when it is our time to. become parents like some enormous download of stored wisdom, experience and guidance to help us for what lies ahead. we remember the times of sadness in our early years as if they were yesterday. we attempt to sever that channel of emotion for our own kids . likewise, cherish own kids. likewise, we cherish the times that we felt loved and
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secure as and we do our best to make sure that we pass that gift on for our children to do the same one day in return. we fail constantly because we are human beings imperfect, beings and we are imperfect, to say least. but say the very least. but generation after generation , we generation after generation, we are constantly trying to improve that delicate recipe of life . that delicate recipe of life. wisdom passed on from parent to child, repeating and repeating the authorities are like families in that way, slowly cooking away, improving with every new generation . and until every new generation. and until recently, it seemed human beings had reached about as close to harmony that. these deep rooted imperfections would allow. the eternal genius of martin luther king telling us to judge what those beneath these layers of thin skin rather than the colour on top of them, to work towards equality of opportunity for all. and to end , the horrors of and to the end, the horrors of racism and segregation that no matter who you were , there was a matter who you were, there was a place in society where you would be recognised and represented. it seemed by the turn of it almost seemed by the turn of the century that we were nearly
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there in our affluence and leisure. we even took away from our own worries to turn our gaze on the world around us and how it could be improved, nurtured and conserved for generations to come. then all of a sudden, come. and then all of a sudden, the intricate process the whole intricate process shuddered to a halt and a great reset took place . silent reset took place. silent revolution had begun. mankind and turned inwards against. as cooper mused in the wonderful film, interstellar , we used to film, interstellar, we used to look up to the sky and wonder what our place in the stars . now what our place in the stars. now we just look down and worry about our place in the dirt. it all began with language we didn't notice it at first. we thought it was politically correct, not say certain things. we were embarrassed at the words forebears used to describe others. we were happy to modernise and update our constantly language. constantly evolving language. a little nip here and a little talk there and move but for talk there and move on. but for some, a little nip or tuck will neven some, a little nip or tuck will never, ever be enough . words
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never, ever be enough. words themselves, even the most benign of all, became tools of oppression and violence. at worst , and indicators of honour worst, and indicators of honour and privilege at best that could no longer be justice. for example , it needed a modifier, example, it needed a modifier, so justice became social justice, privilege immutable by dint of birth , was odious, dint of birth, was odious, modified to the exclusive property of anyone with vaguely pinkish skin. property of anyone with vaguely pinkish skin . perhaps most pinkish skin. perhaps most ridiculous of all, being that in our desperate desire to eradicate grannies rather embarrassing utterances. whenever she called someone a coloured person, we just reverse the order of the words and everything was just dandy. person of colour fine coloured person bigoted racist devil distinction without a difference in the war for words language stopped becoming a way in which we would communicate and connect each other and start to become a means of exerting power and control over each other. people started to keep their mouths shut for fear of stepping on a linguistic landmine, which could destroy their entire life. today, polling reveals half of
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great britain are frightened to speak their own minds and that can't be good. but why stop there ? wondered the leisured there? wondered the leisured ideologues aimlessly plodding the corridors of our universities , institutions and universities, institutions and seats of government looking to bnng seats of government looking to bring the great change. bring about the great change. why didn't just modify words when you can change the entire meanings altogether? and when a bet is a start, then man and woman at some point during this dizzying decline in peaceful human improvement, those who seek power and control over us for our own improvement turn their eyes on simple biology. there is no such thing as male or female. those two immutable and entirely different sexes suddenly became a scale . one suddenly became a scale. one could imagine narcissus ism placed one's self self—image potently on wherever one might. today identity matters far more than actual reality. this obviously has a few predictable drawbacks, such as broad shouldered men with or take on fetishes, putting on a women's costume, hopping in the pool,
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meeting women sounding competition , then popping to the competition, then popping to the dressing room to ditch his costume and offer glimpses of his penis to the girls who sporting futures he'd just destroyed that girls were instructed to be silent and not to voice their fear at sharing protected private spaces where the or even at the unfairness of it all, but for fear of future repercussions from their entirely understandable fury . entirely understandable fury. but swimming races and dressing rooms are one thing. violent rapists in female prisons are something entirely different. as we saw this week, common sense and reality came home to roost for one of the speech suppressors in the scottish first minister, nicola sturgeon . first there was the highly controversial recognition reform bill which was returned to sender shortly after it arrived at westminster. sender shortly after it arrived at westminster . then came the at westminster. then came the 52nd interview, which starkly revealed the ridiculousness of , revealed the ridiculousness of, the woke ideology to the public . we can't challenge because it belongs to itv, but let me give it a go like. this it all
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transwomen. women, women . well, transwomen. women, women. well, yeah, but no, but yeah, but no it. can they go to prison? i don't know. i i'm not sure i vicky pollard and jemmy, crankcase lovechild anyway . crankcase lovechild anyway. convicted rapist adam graham had decided to chuck on a wig, call himself isla, and was no doubt salivating at the idea of sharing his sentence. locked up alongside some potential future victims. but it's in this time the public just couldn't take the public just couldn't take the madness anymore. the backlash forced nicola into a hurried retreat and announced that adam wouldn't be getting the holiday of his dreams after all and first minister of woke and a cronies wished a police speech around dinner speech around the family dinner table gone just one step too table had gone just one step too far . suddenly table had gone just one step too far. suddenly awakening table had gone just one step too far . suddenly awakening from the far. suddenly awakening from the woke free sees the public and she is now by by. you see that's all it takes many people to stand up and say, no thanks. not interested. don't want this stuff anymore to this insidious secular religion, which is a danger to the existence of
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women. delights in the sacrifice of the mutilation of children. hates the family. and the passing on of wisdom in favour of celebration of self and of celebration of the self and all comes with all darkness which comes with it. which damaged it. and which has damaged societal discourse . most societal discourse. most importantly, of speech , importantly, freedom of speech, without is an without which democracy is an illusion. such fundamental illusion. in such a fundamental way , it can't be stopped. when way, it can't be stopped. when confronted head on, as we have seen with nicola, it is my hope that the fall of the sturgeon signal signals the beginning of the end of this ideological woke supremacism. and when future generations look back at this era of fundament to this nihilism, they remind themselves of just how easily the complex intricacies of societal harmony can be destroyed in an instant . can be destroyed in an instant. so tonight i'm asking you, is this the end ? the world, as we this the end? the world, as we know it? email gbviews@gbnews.uk. or tweet at gbviews@gb news.uk. or tweet at gbviews@gbnews.uk. or tweet at gb news. or close the box . join
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one to see how their decisions are affecting you across the uk. besting the westminster bubble every sunday morning on gb news. the people channel britain's watching . watching. hello. hello. hello joining me to discuss issue is benjamin butterworth broadcaster and journalist . butterworth broadcaster and journalist. ben is it the end of work as we know it? no. i find it quite ridiculous. right. because you've got all these people say, oh, jacinda is god. and now nicola sturgeon. so, you know, go won't go broke . i mean, know, go won't go broke. i mean, jacinda ardern was in for five and a half years. nicola sturgeon was in for seven and a half years. it's pretty rich to claim that their politics wasn't . there politician since . there is no politician since tony blair who i'm sure call woke who has been is elected wholly successful. so it's long in office as nicola sturgeon. i
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think that shows that if you go won't get i won't get elected. yeah do you think we're seeing the rise of woke identity politics? i'm more it. i mean, i kind of hate the of identity politics because i don't expect that it's really a thing. right? it's just people living their lives as viscerally as you live , as a as a as a white bloke. right. things that right. you're the things that you to in your identity you clutch to in your identity are just what gay or trans people doing. same people are doing. in the same way. think that is way. i don't think that is actually such a radical departure. you know, if you departure. but, you know, if you were looking at how to win elections , you would elections in scotland, you would look has look at what nicola sturgeon has been because the snp white been doing because the snp white nationalist, know, would nationalist, you know, i would personally snp , but personally go for the snp, but they're on to they're clearly on course to have most at the next have the most seats at the next holyrood elections. and we have the most seats at the next holjthati elections. and we have the most seats at the next holjthat inlections. and we have the most seats at the next holjthat in englandand we have the most seats at the next holjthat in england, ifd we have the most seats at the next holjthat in england, if we we have the most seats at the next holjthat in england, if we had did that in england, if we had a highly nationalistic party in england, condemn england, wouldn't we condemn that? we have that? well, we have a conservative government, so i they well at it as they did quite well at it as well. have you seen it? well, i mean, it always struck as really quite weird that people on the right of the conservative party celebrated, johnson, celebrated, boris johnson, because could see, because as far as i could see, was he actual policies
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was he his actual policies a million tony blair million miles from tony blair which me some cause to which gave me some some cause to be world. you felt be ease the world. you felt better that way? i did. better about it that way? i did. i i'm certainly not going i mean, i'm certainly not going to go out, know, chanting to go out, you know, chanting for him. but i think this idea that over is just that work is over is just a nonsense . and actually, if you nonsense. and actually, if you look course of history, look at the course of history, if at last 30 years if you look at the last 30 years of politics in this country and maybe years in us, the maybe 20 years in the us, the kind of ideas that people are calling woke, things like gay rights, like awareness of rights, things like awareness of transgender things transgender people, things like race politics. i'm not sure race and politics. i'm not sure that's people upset that's what people are upset about when it comes to talking white stuff. i think people are more you know the more upset about you know the transitioning more upset about you know the the teaching children , the teaching to children, critical race theory and stuff like and stuff more like that stuff and stuff more and the thicker end of the wedge. but i mean well first of all i the idea that all i think the idea that kids are being taught critical race theory, i've from theory, they are i've stuff from my child's school they talk my own child's school they talk about white privilege, skin colour rc. colour privilege pictures in rc. well think when it comes well i mean think when it comes to you know, being to things like, you know, being aware of white privilege of, aware of white privilege and of, of which britain of the context in which britain exists, that's useful exists, i think that's a useful thing. think i don't
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thing. i don't think i don't think should rewrite history think we should rewrite history that we're trying to rewrite history. can't we can't that we're trying to rewrite his back can't we can't that we're trying to rewrite hisback and can't we can't that we're trying to rewrite hisback and changet we can't that we're trying to rewrite hisback and change itve can't that we're trying to rewrite hisback and change it canan't that we're trying to rewrite hisback and change it can we so go back and change it can we so we can change the future, though, situation really though, in the situation really shaped world we've come shaped by the world we've come from, the situation we're in is in my the most divided society has and based has ever been. and that's based around identity politics and identity politics is it's horrible because, you know, it encourages division but so what what do you think this woke thinking means to you? well first of all, we're not in the most divided country. and the truth is that, well, in most of the people in this country trying to open their mouths now, they're not. they are. they're told, well , you're welcome. told, well, you're welcome. you're clearly not. i'm not. i'm clearly i'm not. the truth is, i'm afraid the rich straight white blokes like yourself threatened because . there are threatened because. there are people from minority groups, people from minority groups, people haven't had power historically who are claiming that. but anybody i don't like people being racist to me , what people being racist to me, what i out outside the flat, i remember out outside the flat, i remember out outside the flat, i just moved out of actually you
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complain about the same sex couples on the traffic lights, right? why would things like that be alarming? that's just celebrating different types of relationships in the world. political traffic lights, they're not political that are coming . have they're not political that are coming. have a green light. it's not i'm not complaining. i'm not like i can't bear it. i'm just going. it's a any aspect of life that we can remove politic for. i don't have go. we have zebra crossing and now we've got trans crossing and now we've got trans crossing . i mean, who cares? crossing. i mean, who cares? i don't want politicised roads either . i don't want politicised roads either. i don't don't want politicised roads either . i don't want black lives either. i don't want black lives matter written down the road in the same way as i don't want white lives matter written down the middle of a road. but i think it is brilliant to have a society where people feel like they're represented, whereas single standard males who apparently bad apparently just feel really bad that challenged. that they're being challenged. i mean, have it easy in mean, you still have it easy in life. bye bye yourself. there's a human everything, my a human being, everything, my entire and everything for entire income and everything for saying was a tolerant saying this was a tolerant country. please don't say to country. so please don't say to me an easy through me i have an easy path through life. from £0. but life. i can rebuild from £0. but the way in which got there the way in which you got there will have helped being will have been helped by being a
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straight with a straight white man with a financially secure. what about straight white, straight black men who've loads men who've got loads of privilege? school harrow privilege? my old school harrow was full of. yeah i mean, these things are nigerian princes , things are nigerian princes, russian people, know, people russian people, you know, people . all these people who now have instagram accounts with 15 bentleys and then with girls draped across them. do they have white privilege? i mean, they're looking for a husband. i'd be interested in 15 bentleys. you are. me tell you. edward are. but let me tell you. edward enninful, the of enninful, he's the editor of british and has been at british vogue and has been at british vogue and has been at british vogue and has been at british vogue for, i think, like 20 years in different roles when he to office in a he turned up to the office in a suit, i'm sure a very nice suit. he was sent to the delivery entrance. he told by entrance. he was told by security to go. they thought he was a delivery man. that was clear because he's now. he clear because he's black now. he is a wealthy and goes this is a wealthy and goes like this all time as well but doesn't all the time as well but doesn't that show it's a board people that show it's a board of people are billionaires telling me that how much suffer it's like it's the masses mentioned a bit of self—awareness wouldn't go amiss with that remark for them as well but i tell you what when
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edward enninful went to the vogue that went to vogue house and they assumed he was a delivery man, that clearly delivery man, that was clearly racism. that he has racism. so the fact that he has started that racism and it should be again that the should be said again that the fact is presumably fact that he is presumably pretty wealthy and obviously very well—connected didn't matter. saw a black matter. all they saw was a black that for one person. that is raised for one person. that's person. that's always a black person. yeah. the whole the country. yeah. the whole of the country. so one person, an so one person, one person, an idiot person or just thought, oh, you must be the delivery quy- oh, you must be the delivery guy. but it was i think i only see direct or passive racism like that. and and sort of bigotry we would stand to gain. but you can't present the whole of all of white men being scared about the fact that there are people other ethnicities. people from, other ethnicities. coming up, we celebrate that. we fight for that. that's what britain is so progressive about. that's we're progressive , that's why we're progressive, wonderful i don't wonderful country. i don't believe for a split second that had arrived. i a bit had you arrived. i a bit dishevelled today you look you've even did this thank you i do you have 15 bentleys because then can. i've got then maybe we can. i've got i've got i've slightly dented got i've got a slightly dented she said never mind it won't work. but i if
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work. laurence hummel but i if we had walked into that office they wouldn't that they wouldn't made that assumption, had anything to do with and talk about with race. and you talk about britain if you go britain being divided, if you go back 50, 60 years, what 90, 67, it was literally illegal to be gay or to have a certain practise. okay that is a far more divided society . and you more divided society. and you said it has never been more divided. if you when what i was trying ask so i'm being annoying as well interrupting you not let me finish your point but yes, the chemical castration of gay men is just so gives us our freedom. alan cheering we yeah, exactly. but we've, we entered penod exactly. but we've, we entered period in society where there was a place for everybody of any skin colour and sexual orientation. it just feels to me like we've gone, we're going, right. what are we going to, what are going improve what are we going to improve next? bringing next? it's not actually bringing harmony. creating division. harmony. it's creating division. i wish we in kind of i wish we in that kind of society, you know, i'm years society, you know, i'm 30 years old and even i've been relatively young, went to school when section 28, which banned the promotion, so—called promotion of homosexuality by
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local councils and council run schools, that was in place when i was in secondary school and i'm only 30 years old, so the idea you have a generation idea that you have a generation of people that we've reached this, you where everyone has freedom in the first place is just not true. i didn't say what i said was we were making and we continue to make progress but by you know, i really, really you know, i you really, really struggle to find a huge amount of homophobia certainly in london. i mean you know and around this , i think people around this, i think people really accept people . in fact, really accept people. in fact, i told them and they're tolerant towards people who are trans. you know, anything the lgbtq+ plus so—called community is hugely tolerant . what there hugely tolerant. what there isn't a tolerance for is telling my people that there racist and privileged people like being told that and they don't like kids being hyper racialized in school or hypersexualized in school. you think that there is it is some way we can find some common ground and say you what? it's good not to teach ten year olds that they might be girls, but it could be good. i don't
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accept that. framing it at all because talk it, because when you talk about it, when the phrase when you use the phrase hypersexualized, i see what you're referencing is sex and relationship education, which now in the latter stages now starts in the latter stages of primary now, the of primary school. now, the truth it is relationship truth is, it is relationship education. is aside from education. it is aside from biological fact , that one might biological fact, that one might need to know at ten or 11 years old, which clearly is necessary for people know . it old, which clearly is necessary for people know. it about for people to know. it is about understanding the world you live in. and actually, i think kind of relationship education, primary school age is extremely important it important and because it arguably reduces chances of those being victim to, to those kids being victim to, to sex, because if they know and value their and what a relationship looks like, they can stand up to someone who is trying to abuse that. quite the reverse to what some people would think think would claim i think is i think it's a fair point that you make, but i disagree. just say but i would disagree. just say that think when i was young that i think when i was young i was taught dunga and because was strangers and don't anyone touch your that's is. your beds. but that's how it is. benjamin butterworth, thank you so much. thank you forjoining so much. thank you for joining me. right. you, ben me. right. thank you, ben benjamin. next, will benjamin. coming up next, i will
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and three with the country in the state that it with the country in the state thatitis with the country in the state that it is no one seemingly able to give us any as to what and why it's happening or what is going to have to happen. i have decided to consult an actual expert someone can give us a prediction we can all get behind . so joining me now is tracy wellington, empath psychic , wellington, empath psychic, medium. good evening, wellington, empath psychic, medium. good evening , tracy. how medium. good evening, tracy. how are you ? good evening . medium. good evening, tracy. how are you ? good evening. i'm fine. are you? good evening. i'm fine. how are you ? i'm doing good. how are you? i'm doing good. now, before we get to the boring stuff like the of great britain and how it's going to go, what
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doesit and how it's going to go, what does it each for? laurence fox . does it each for? laurence fox. well produce . yeah well just well produce. yeah well just told.i well produce. yeah well just told. i see colours. i colours the blue. blue. but what i mean what am i going to be alright. just checking . are you, are you just checking. are you, are you going to be alright yet. okay. but i need, i need, i needed more solid but i need a more solid reading . okay. let let's solid reading. okay. let let's let i'll get my cards out to do . yeah. spoon the cards . yes oh, . yeah. spoon the cards. yes oh, my god. yes to show up straightaway . do. do you see straightaway. do. do you see that? yeah okay . so i'm going to that? yeah okay. so i'm going to pick out cards for you. he's like . yeah okay. i'm going to like. yeah okay. i'm going to shuffle them , and i'm going to
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shuffle them, and i'm going to see what will holds for you . oh see what will holds for you. oh this is a good card , as you can this is a good card, as you can see. is it choosing freedom? it's making at a card is fill out a card says don't worry about upset people. not one for procrastinate in haste. make decisions that you've been putting on hold , but you are putting on hold, but you are heading in the right direction. ready and then the last card is . okay don't let anything hold you back . look around you. you back. look around you. there's new journeys. if there's things that, like i said on the last cards, it's been put on hold. stockbroker stop procrastinating. move and take on new challenges . would you say on new challenges. would you say that that's fair? that i should therefore ask my employers for a large pay rise ? not in that sort large pay rise? not in that sort of way. okay now, if you want a
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pay of way. okay now, if you want a pay rise , just manifest it and pay rise, just manifest it and allow it to come. okay, i'll do that. allow it to come. okay, i'll do that . now, i know you're not that. now, i know you're not sort of not into the politics, all that stuff, and who really cares, but we have a future . cares, but we have a future. we're heading towards an election . there is the red of election. there is the red of laboun election. there is the red of labour. and there is the blue of conservative. what comes into your mind at this time? definitely the blue. wow. definitely the blue. wow. definitely the blue. it was coming to me early on. that's why i said i was seeing blue. so you're basically going against the polls. and i you know, judging by some of the brexit polls, i think you might you might be on to something here. now, look, the most important question and the one that everybody really wants to everybody really really wants to know will harry and meghan be attending the coronation ? but attending the coronation? but i've. yes, no cards in here . i've. yes, no cards in here. okay. and i'm going to shop for him and i'll go let the angel show you. okay, then. oh yes or no. but let's see. if it doesn't show you yes or no, then it hasn't been . but i'm going to at
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hasn't been. but i'm going to at least card it says yes way . so least card it says yes way. so this is good. there's a lot of good news here. rishi sunak is going to get in. i'm going to a massive pay rise and harry, they're going to come in the coronation , which might be a bit coronation, which might be a bit i don't i don't think i think there's going to be some discussions. i think there needs to be some talks . but i do feel to be some talks. but i do feel that, yes , he will come . have that, yes, he will come. have you got anything visited you in the in the last few days that you'd like to share with the nafion you'd like to share with the nation ? has anything visited may nation? has anything visited may have you are you are you drawn from the aether that's sharing with people . yeah, i have. i do with people. yeah, i have. i do get messages from spirit . and get messages from spirit. and one of the messages i was getting from spirit, there's a young lad who's missing at the
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moment . i don't know if you've moment. i don't know if you've heard about the rugby player , heard about the rugby player, levi davis . right. we heard levi davis. right. we heard about going missing. yes well, a while about a while ago . i've while about a while ago. i've got some messages coming and, yeah, it's really trying to reach out to his mum . yeah. okay reach out to his mum. yeah. okay well, we, we pray for levi davis is swift return and thank you so, so much tracey, for your predictions. coming up, have the left been left behind back .
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in three? hello again. apologies if anyone was upset by the final prediction. now, look, there's not a long way to go, but we will get there. we can only hope. but i don't . i right. this hope. but i don't. i right. this audience reactions. john says we can only hope. this is it the end of the world? because we know that. john says we can only hope, but i doubt it. it's now ingrained in the establishment. i i yeah, but maybe nicola sturgeon and ahern and corbyn. these might be signs that the establishment are getting pushback against. alison a better way to go. yeah, but it's a start . at least the mainstream a start. at least the mainstream media needs balancing out too. it's not just the politicians. screw with our freedom , right ? i screw with our freedom, right? i will now go straight to stephen pound, who is former shadow minister for northern ireland. and stephen, i've been watching .thank and stephen, i've been watching . thank you forjoining me. my pleasure. i'd been having a look at the labour party recently, andifs at the labour party recently, and it's starting to look
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vaguely electable. i'm very worried hear that. i know. worried to hear that. i know. yeah, we've actually grown up a little bit, to be perfectly honest. it's very interesting that a discussion that you're having a discussion and tonight, but and not just tonight, but i mean, you lead this in many mean, you you lead this in many other as well about other areas as well know about this work first this business about work first and i don't think the and politics. i don't think the two much of a crossover two there's much of a crossover there. lot of the sort there. i mean, a lot of the sort of the hard left in the labour party with the least woke people i've ever in life, you know, i've ever met in life, you know, so well, you actually so sorry. well, if you actually have look at know, have a look at the, you know, some of scandals in the tsa, some of the scandals in the tsa, you know, the transport salvage staff the staff association with the behaviour and the gmb behaviour of that and the gmb being labelled as a misogynist, all it's not all those things. so it's not necessarily and right necessarily left and right thing. what is much more insidious more insidious but is much more worrying. concerning worrying. what's more concerning is that is this kind of assumption that everybody now is terrified about anything. in case somebody can say behind look say something behind that. look at that people at at the idea that people at university and you assume that if you go to university, you've got few cells they read got a few cells they can't read chaucer without warning, you know, some this may shock you. he got up thrush mocking then he from rupert might be like like a
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thunderclap he . but but no. this thunderclap he. but but no. this is this is so tedious because what it does is it shrinks down the world of experience. it actually reduces human interaction and it actually makes people ashamed for speaking. now. now, look, if you harbour views, that may be unacceptable to some people and you keep them to yourself, you end group of like end up with a group of like minded people in dark beer minded people in a dark beer class, scheming. class, plotting and scheming. you've got to get out. you've got to actually get out. and you and i disagree. but and if you and i disagree. but can't we talk about it as two adults instead of me being terrified that you're going to say i'm more work you? say that i'm more work than you? well, said, that's well, that said, that's tradition. thought the left tradition. i thought the left both in politics idea both in politics with the idea of notice that of expression, and i notice that it's been out. i agree it's been taken out. and i agree with what you're saying. it's not a political problem. it's a cultural problem which has been good. not going to good. and we're not going to agree, well, i'm a bit agree, are we? well, i'm a bit of a you know, people think i'm sort of far right, fascist, but i'm not sure it could go on forever. i'm quite liberal and i just people being able to just like people being able to express their views. so you
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know, in terms he know, in terms has he made a smart move by just showing kobani just the door? do you think that was really good idea? well, i don't think there's any alternative, in all honesty. i basically jeremy corbyn was let back into the labour party, but he's not got the labour whip in the of commons. as the house of commons. and as soon said that, you know, soon as he said that, you know, the whole antisemitism had the whole antisemitism thing had been then been exaggerated and then refused apologise after the refused to apologise after the report . then to be honest, he report. then to be honest, he placed himself probably where he wants to be and he wants to be the lonely figure, the messiah crying you crying in the wilderness. you know, jeremy for over 40 know, i've jeremy for over 40 years and he's always been a you know, i've jeremy for over 40 years if d he's always been a you know, i've jeremy for over 40 years if amiable,nays been a you know, i've jeremy for over 40 years if amiable, charming a you know, if amiable, charming person. but, know, in all person. but, you know, in all honesty, organise honesty, he couldn't organise his paper bag. i his way up a paper bag. and i think the problem is that that kind soggy, sentimental kind of soggy, sentimental lefties ism, which immediately found us on the rock when you say to them, okay, define socialism , you know, say we want socialism, you know, say we want more socialism, what you mean by socialism and know, where's the ideal society in the world which is a socialist society ? i mean, is a socialist society? i mean, the labour party is a democratic socialist party personally
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socialist party and personally would look to finland, sweden, denmark , you know, estonia. denmark, you know, estonia. there's countries there's a lot of countries i would at what i wouldn't would look at what i wouldn't look to would be cuba. yeah, exactly. and i look to i look to keir starmer and you see his sort of he was quite awkward , sort of he was quite awkward, uncomfortable front of the uncomfortable in front of the camera, crucial camera, which is quite crucial as politician . and he's as a politician. and he's developed confidence and developed a confidence and i start seeing real lack of confidence in the conservatives and almost like they're ready to lose and almost like they want to lose. well it's a strange thing. i mean, i was around in 79 when we could see what was rolling down the hill at us. we knew that we absolutely knew that we were absolutely stuffed something in 2010. stuffed in something in 2010. i knew would sit knew that we would just sit there waiting the old there waiting for the old etonians come in. but we knew that we'd had it. and i think there's that kind sea change. there's that kind of sea change. but about keir is but the thing about keir is i knew him he was the dpp in knew him when he was the dpp in northern did the northern ireland that did the pubuc northern ireland that did the public prosecutions very difficult in. difficult doing politics in. northern minute you northern ireland. the minute you say, the north of say, for example, the north of ireland, i to northern ireland, as i said to northern ireland, as i said to northern ireland, you're in one or ireland, you're in one camp or the since they said to me, the other since they said to me, how spell your name? how do you spell your name? stephen one things. you know
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stephen is one things. you know what and somebody what it's like. and somebody said to me who'd with him said to me who'd work with him for long time in he was for a long time in court, he was much, much better talking to the judge the jury. judge than talking to the jury. and that was why. but he's now and i that was why. but he's now changed now realised changed and he's now realised that to your game. that you have to up your game. and he speaks to jury, and now he speaks to the jury, the judge, i think he does the judge, and i think he does it pretty well, have to say. it pretty well, i have to say. i think i agree. i am i'm dread going on five years of a labour government. that's if anyone could it we beat could screw it up, we can beat it. we formed you, stephen it. we have formed you, stephen brown . jeremy corbyn has been brown. jeremy corbyn has been banned from standing as labour party candidate next june election by the leader of the party, sir keir starmer. election by the leader of the party, sir keir starmer . and party, sir keir starmer. and it's been criticised by mr. corbyn supporters ending uphold democracy. anyway, we will be back this . back after this. break hello. i used to be drug fees and i'm going to be doing some shows for gb news for two reasons. one, they are free to
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and two, they want programming for viewers who are completely out touch a much neglect demographic. so stay out of touch with me . i'm simon. join touch with me. i'm simon. join me on gb news. the headliners at 11 pm. what's the scoop? i'll be joined by two of the country's top comedians. be joined by two of the country's top comedians . yes, country's top comedians. yes, right. so we take a look at tomorrow's newspapers tonight , tomorrow's newspapers tonight, which is going to trouble if it's a big story, be covering it, spill tea on him there it, spill some tea on him there but will also some fun. i wouldn't stick up a bank. my father didn't love me. so anyway , headliners every night 11 on gb news the people's channel, britain's
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know, but it's quite giving. it's an impressive. the gb news managed to get inside. god, i love it . i tell you why i always love it. i tell you why i always get people saying, why do you go on gb news? there are extreme right wing and i actually think they let me say what i want to say. it's free speech that there it's not what they think it is. i love gb news. good for you but you get you put up with a lot of grief. yeah it's kind of i think i put up with a lot of grief too, but i think it's sort of i like using this opportunity to sit in, burned out things where we may have ground. so let's start where we have some common ground, is covid. have ground, which is covid. we have we same way. so we have the same way. so anti—lockdown the lot . in anti—lockdown anti the lot. in fact, the very first day that the whole we are going into lockdown, i remember doing a video on my twitter saying you can't accept this. we be locked up like animals. please accept this. and i lost 3000 followers in about an overnight covid we agreed on that. we agreed on that because i remember when it all happened in lockdown, i was
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so against it. i was against i was against schools. we i've got two kids gcse age and i thought you look at the whole economy going to this is long term this is we're going to pay the price and we're paying the price. but you know what i look at religious thing a religious i because i found a lot of religious orientations of all religions. i found a lot of religious people very against it. and i wondered whether for you it had a religious element to it. no, not at all. i know because just a human individual will i think i was also will also i think i was also fortunate i've i've lost my mum and dad lost my grandparents. i've brother. so i had i've lost my brother. so i had no one else to lose. and maybe selfishly , i thought, well, selfishly, i thought, well, actually, this doesn't affect me . importantly , i . but more importantly, i thought, well, actually the economy , education, why kids economy, education, why kids suffering? why are you suffering children? we can't do that. but people just went with it and it made me mad in the and people are running away from each other it honestly made me sick talking
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about oh god told about kids education. yeah psg a rc that they teach school, they teach concepts of things , gender, concepts of things, gender, ideology and white privilege and skin well, skin colour, privilege , for example, which is privilege, for example, which is called white privilege. and because we're thinking that's mostly white and, let's start with gender ideology . how do you with gender ideology. how do you i think we both agree on something else statement, which is that we fully support trans people . i do. i do too . but is that we fully support trans people. i do. i do too . but i people. i do. i do too. but i think i've be people think you don't because really don't support young people making those sort of huge decisions about their bodies based around my experience in the industry and decisions i made when i little i still have a tattoo that will never go away . so the that will never go away. so the thought of me floating too young to make that decision. yeah and so i suppose. where do you stand
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on that. so okay , children are on that. so okay, children are too young to decide . however, too young to decide. however, i just support anyone who wants to be included. they they want to be included. they they want to be accepted . and there's such be accepted. and there's such a small minority . be accepted. and there's such a small minority. i what i don't understand is the media's obsession. everyone's obsession with trans rights, where that's such a tiny percentage . why are such a tiny percentage. why are they such a threat to you? well i would i think i would argue that they're not a threat to people . what they are is their people. what they are is their use by a particular movement to create this oppressive press narrative, which is which is what permeates the world. there's what i call woke stuff is like someone's a victim and someone is the oppressor of that victim. which brings us neatly on to white privilege. okay, so gone on that that was very well known. it's not quick. i'm just following you about. okay tell me about what you so much a race baiting and. oh she brings in race all that i did we have a spot the other day think it was bushra sheikh i was having a spat with. well no we have as
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well the thing about racism it's such strong word that white people get very fragile and sensitive about it that this guilt her entire career as a result of the allegation entire career but you also to a career because your white privilege as well not necessarily well know an asian man of your would not have had the privileges you but no we've got to get the right speed here in america and in the uk as well actually. but certainly in america, asian people do really, really well better than white people only now. okay, but america is a young country and it's the result people visiting that's just let me let's round the point if we can . okay. and in point if we can. okay. and in england , asian people especially england, asian people especially asian people, do really well. well, laurence actually, no. when i came out of big brother 2001, i rememberi when i came out of big brother 2001, i remember i came and i
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was just absolutely annihilated by the press. as with most people, the people worry whether you are black, white, whatever. i don't know. they just picked on the people first. they picked a book. the people, whether you're white, black or trans, like nadia was. however they picked me , i'd say even more picked on me, i'd say even more so ithe picked on me, i'd say even more so i the first person of person , woman of colour that went in that house. what happened was i wanted to cry after big brother. i wanted to be in tv, made no kind of joke about that. i was serious and i'd go to bbc channel for itv and they'd say to me , you need to go to the to me, you need to go to the indian channels, then i'll go to the indian channels. they think, oh, you're not indian enough, you need to go back to the white channels. be fair, you do. channels. to be fair, you do. you fit perfectly but you fit perfectly in, but i starlux and you know , it's sort starlux and you know, it's sort of i know your you're going to think i told you get my name you do look a little bit someone you've bumped into but not at a
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very swanky party in so why did bbc tv channel for channel five. never accept they were too busy hiring me. yeah. and all of my white privilege. but guess what they said? yeah, they were two white contestants, but they wouldn't because tv wouldn't take me because one tv executive actually to me, executive actually said to me, well , light executive actually said to me, well, light entertainment, we need we need occasionally we need we need occasionally we need white people in person. well, we say that. really. so this is i thought, okay, i guess what they said, journalism would be taken seriously as a newsreader, but you will never wear that. this is where the talent has come from because they were racist back in the day and they were like, we're sorry type continuation channels and don't speak asian. so we're going to hire all the white people. now they're massively overcompensating by going. we also sorry for being white and everything we didn't feel bad about why feel bad about being white? i don't know why total content of character colour of skin doesn't bother me for a second. well, you say that,
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lord. no, i'm sexually attracted to people . all different skin to people. all different skin colours. so it really is something that if you can be really like a war to girl. oh, sorry, i am heterosexual. i apologise for that as well . but apologise for that as well. but if you can . apologise for that as well. but if you can. but i apologise for that as well. but if you can . but i tell you that if you can. but i tell you that that means i'm not interested in. no colour. so there was a guy at school that used to call me the p word every single day, and i used to actually fancy him. this was a tragedy. the love story and i, i know it broke my heart. and i'm not going to say they were actually was colin as they say. was colin powell as they say. and loved them. i fancied him and i loved them. i fancied him and he called me the would and he called me the p would every guy chance bumped into and he called me the p would everaguy chance bumped into and he called me the p would evera few chance bumped into and he called me the p would evera few yearsance bumped into and he called me the p would evera few years ago bumped into and he called me the p would evera few years ago andiped into and he called me the p would evera few years ago and hei into and he called me the p would evera few years ago and he said» him a few years ago and he said , i couldn't have gone out with you because i guess i'd go out with you now because goes, oh my god, you look like polly, which would me ? he would you go out with me? he said, then he goes, said, i didn't. then he goes, because been called because i would have been called a lover and he goes and i really wanted to you. i would have been called lover. so things have called a lover. so things have changed. has changed. changed. society has changed. it's a change i've not heard.
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i'm sure it happens. i'm sure it happens. but i have no idea. wonder around this multi diverse city of london is only london. i'm in newcastle. i'm not i don't know about newcastle or your lived experience . yeah, your lived experience. yeah, they're all right. yeah i, i think that society has progressed hugely and you know it's a really wonderful thing and i don't know again where you're saying why are we using all of these tiny minority of incidents with trans people. i mean you got what was going on last night that tragic murder of that young trans person. i mean, there all stood that going selma and you're like, why were they saying that about my. because i it's a political the problem is happens is the sort of marxist movement which is the oppressor oppressed movement needs little vectors to use it uses the transgender community. it uses that it race. yes. and i think it's moved on from race. yes it
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will go into mental health. that's the next place it's going to go, which will be everybody is so the use it for what then they use it to the agenda to keep it in the newspapers to make it talk about it all the time. okay that's what i think happens. me back to how happens. but take me back to how privileged i am. point is privileged i am. the point is that have a right to an that you do have a right to an opinion, but doesn't mean opinion, but it doesn't mean let's not let's not negate and dilute the argument of racism. and the point my direct racism not to as prince harry would say, unconscious bias if i if you're asking to take so you need to racism. i one of the other things that comes with content of character is the level of personal, you content of character is the level of personal , you know, level of personal, you know, self knowledge, emotional intelligence, actual intelligence, actual intelligence . and i tell you intelligence. and i tell you what, prince harry doesn't have any of those privileges . i love any of those privileges. i love guns, harry. shoot up prince harry, the irish name reminds me of you . he likes to learn using of you. he likes to learn using learning about he's learning. i
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just see that as someone could maybe see what you just said. just being that patronising, patronising , but not racist. patronising, but not racist. maybe patronising , but patronising, but not racist. maybe patronising, but i patronising, but not racist. maybe patronising , but i don't maybe patronising, but i don't think it's, i don't know, white, middle , middle class, middle middle, middle class, middle labour or. no, i don't want them to feel so guilty . challenge is to feel so guilty. challenge is sensitive about if we say we're attacked when you know welcome to the round well welcome to our life well you can attack you i you do survive. i'm conscious neverin you do survive. i'm conscious never in my life have turned around. maybe you opened , maybe around. maybe you opened, maybe no one. i know ever has to tell you this. you went around to face. i get it. and you come from newcastle? yes, i get. i get. i get undecided times change and you're a different generation now . but we have made generation now. but we have made such a mental strides as a country . just have to look at country. just have to look at the parliament now is a to god doesn't mean anything because you got rishi sunak priti patel
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suella braverman all of them who actually just because they're proud i'm there in the cabinet ministers doesn't mean anything to a working class immigrant child daughter like me because guess what and i get accused. this is another word they say don't even if i can say this well bleep out i get coconut and i get accused of being a crook because the way i dress, oh, you're such a what i am to your appropriating white norms of dress. correct and actually you're not really into good looking. you sat there with your legs out and your shoulder like you drinking a glass of wine. you're a coconut. but actually you're a lafayette of . but you're a lafayette of. but actually sunak and see actually rishi sunak and see whether they stand. they're like, oh, thank we've got like, oh, thank god, we've got an prime minister oh, an indian prime minister oh, i see these things. i mean things to say, but he's not speaking for our community. that's him i want to speak to for my community. but isn't your community. but isn't your community the british people they they are ultimate community probably one of them, but they live but they don't agree me
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and well come to coming up in the next hour, i'll be speaking tory titan sir john and the former cabinet minister will be giving us his take on whether rishi sunakis us his take on whether rishi sunak is on the verge of a brexit break through. really exciting news that one. plus we'll discuss the departure of nicola sturgeon and ask if the conservatives are on an election footing . also the most footing. also the most significant nurses strikes yet have been announced and two guests will be here to debate whether it's morally wrong for nurses who work on emergency departments to withdraw their laboun departments to withdraw their labour. also i'll be talking to tv personality bobby norris
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