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and well come to coming up in the next hour, i'll be speaking tory titan sir john and the former cabinet minister will be giving us his take on whether rishi sunakis us his take on whether rishi sunak is on the verge of a brexit break through. really exciting news that one. plus we'll discuss the departure of nicola sturgeon and ask if the conservatives are on an election footing . also the most footing. also the most significant nurses strikes yet have been announced and two guests will be here to debate whether it's morally wrong for nurses who work on emergency departments to withdraw their laboun departments to withdraw their labour. also i'll be talking to tv personality bobby norris
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about the scourge of celebrities being harassed by social media trolls and whether online abuse should be made illegal. or is it all about speech? well, this show is we've got 3 hours of it coming up, a lively show plus all your favourite elements . the all your favourite elements. the opinion, the big question and my take it ten lots to get through clips of the week as well folks. but first, the headlines with tatiana sanchez . mark, thank tatiana sanchez. mark, thank you. good evening . this is the you. good evening. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the prime minister says we haven't got a deal yet as he vowed to continue negotiating with the european commission on the north island protocol. rishi sunak held talks with stormont leaders this to try to resolve the post brexit trading arrangements . brexit trading arrangements. he'll meet eu leaders in germany tomorrow amid speculation a deal could be unveiled early next week. the dup says has been made, but mr. sunak says there's
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more work to do. well, the tests i've set myself is that we protect northern ireland's place in our internal market, that we protect the belfast friday agreement, that we resolve practical issues, that the protocol is causing families and businesses in, northern ireland and crucially, that we address the democratic deficit. those are the issues that we need to work through. and that's what my ministerial colleagues and i will talking the eu about . will be talking the eu about. three people have been pulled out alive from rubble in turkey today, 11 days after devastating earthquakes shook the region. more than 45,000 people are now known to have been killed in three major earthquakes that hit southern turkey and syria on the 6th of february. millions have been left homeless, sparking a wild relief effort , although aid wild relief effort, although aid has been slower to reach syria, the world health organisation has appealed fo r £70 million to has appealed for £70 million to help with the health care of
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those rescued . lancashire police those rescued. lancashire police has confirmed it's going to conduct an internal review into the investigation. it's after the investigation. it's after the home secretary suella braverman questioned why the force has disclosed details of the missing mum's private life dunng. the missing mum's private life during . a news conference. during. a news conference. lancashire police said she'd suffered from significant issues with alcohol in the past and struggles with menopause . it struggles with menopause. it then referred itself to the police regulator , the department police regulator, the department for transport has announced a cap bus fares in england. that will be by three months. th e £2 will be by three months. the £2 cap, which applies to than 130 bus companies outside london, was due to end in march, but it's now been extended until the end of june. the aim is to increase the passenger numbers but also to help boost uses dunng but also to help boost uses during cost of living crisis. roads local transport minister richard holden says the caps being positive and it's got to go hand in glove with actually getting people on the bus
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network as well because what we want to see is a thriving bus network in every part of the country whether the country whether that's in the somerset or in a city like bristol as well. we want to see those bus networks really and people able to use them people being able to use them and also this £2 back up i think will really help people think differently about buses, especially but it also especially when the but it also takes account like takes into account things like parking and all that sort of thing. when you try to get into a town or a city online and a town or a city tv online and dab plus radio, this says gb news. now it's back to . mark news. now it's back to. mark dolan tonight. thanks, tatyana. we'll see at nine. this is mark dolan tonight. we're with you right through until 11:00. welcome to 3 hours of top quality tv as we address all the big issues of the day with the help of some brilliant guests . in just a brilliant guests. in just a moment, it's time for clips of
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the week which has become a appointment tv throughout the nation. as we show you the highs and occasional lows from seven days on the people's channel and no one is spared at 9:00. in my big opinion, my reaction and to the news that i called six weeks ago nicola sturgeon extreme political correctness proved down form in our first hour tonight i'll be speaking to tory grandee sirjohn redwood and he'll tell us if the prime minister is indeed on the verge of a brexit break through following the news that , nurses following the news that, nurses are going to take part in a 48 hour strike at the start of march. their most significant walkout so far. i'll be asking if it's wrong for nurses working in emergency departments to go on strike. also, tv personality bobby norris will join us to give view as to whether or not only abuse should be made illegal . or is that a threat to illegal. or is that a threat to freedom ? speech after ten more
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freedom? speech after ten more meets. i'll be speaking to mark williams thomas, the former policeman and investigative journalist who exposed the sickening crimes of jemmy savile. lots to get through a very busy 3 hours. it's friday night, so i want to stimulate you , you and entertain you along you, you and entertain you along the way. we don't do boring you. not on my watch. i just have it. speaking of which, it's for clips of the week . it's time now clips of the week. it's time now for clips of the week, the part of the show where we drive gb news presenters guests to distraction as we take their thoughtful and considered contributions. remove all context from them and present them in a weekly round up format for cheap friday night laughs. and we start with the biggest story of the week and it came from scotland. nicola sturgeon has resigned as first minister of scotland after eight years in power what a story . now
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of scotland after eight years in power what a story. now nigel farage has many quality shows and has single handedly the face of british politics. but perhaps his most compelling attribute his most compelling attribute his greatest quality is he calls a spade a spade . here is a a spade a spade. here is a vintage example from this week , vintage example from this week, a purely personal level . on a purely personal level. on a day like this, i have to say i found nicola sturgeon one of the most unpleasant people ever met in any walk of life . ouch. nigel in any walk of life. ouch. nigel very much picking a side there. now. sas, hero and gb news regular phil campion was on the channel this week and he opened fire on the french. firstly, can i just say though, listen to the french like in no position to talk about anybody to the back of the queue for everything unless being liberated . i will unless being liberated. i will third sacre bleu. now it's nice to see that brexit hasn't soured relations between the uk and france. by the way, where is phil? just take look. shall we?
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oh, my goodness . he's in a oh, my goodness. he's in a strange sort of rural location. i guess he was killing two birds with one stone. do it. interview with one stone. do it. interview with gb news whilst scouting the woods for potential dogging . woods for potential dogging. great phil. terrific stamina . great phil. terrific stamina. now free speech nation is one of britain's most high brow discussions . i always learn so discussions. i always learn so much week i found out that star wars apparently is very gay and star wars has already got the gay characters, the robots to their gay couples. yeah, exactly i mean, r2d2 is a homosexual robot. yes yeah. there's no way he's straight . i mean, c—3po is he's straight. i mean, c—3po is the company . he's straight. i mean, c—3po is the company. is the he's straight. i mean, c—3po is the company . is the butcher. the company. is the butcher. yeah, exactly. yeah yeah, yeah. so r2—d2 is the top c—3po support. we know . so r2—d2 is the top c—3po support. we know. i like so r2—d2 is the top c—3po support. we know . i like the support. we know. i like the little monkey , the perfect tie. little monkey, the perfect tie. yeah, yeah, yeah . why was this? yeah, yeah, yeah. why was this? well, i must have met. although i'm very happily married, i partial to a good walk . may the partial to a good walk. may the force be with you . now i know force be with you. now i know that nicola sturgeon and alex
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salmond were close political allies back in the day . but allies back in the day. but christine hamilton goes a bit further. he he groomed her from a very young age . blimey, a very young age. blimey, christine . not pulling her christine. not pulling her punches there . last week when we punches there. last week when we were discussing the of cyclists on the roads so here's a clip of me outside about on a bicycle demonstrating my deep knowledge of the highway . and of the highway. and there i am on my bicycle perhaps greta thunberg might finally start returning my . it was valentine's returning my. it was valentine's day this week and what better way to it than tuning in to patrick christie's who's of course recently engaged and has become quite romantic, as you can see from this. love is in the air. apparently, yes. it's valentine's . the air. apparently, yes. it's valentine's. is it just a big card to get us all to spend money on chocolates, flowers and
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pretend to love each other ? pretend to love each other? pretend to. love each other? sorry. did i say patrick was engaged? i'm afraid he's now single. if you'd like a romp with patrick, please get in touch with gb lovers at 800 555. christie's and also seek counselling immediately. now dawn neesom was covering for laurence fox, the other night and they have so much in common. hello and welcome to wednesday night with obviously someone that quite clearly isn't laurence flogs to talk blondes and slightly irritating as well. but that's about where it finishes tall, blonde and slightly irritating . gb news slightly irritating. gb news would never hire like that . would never hire like that. moving swiftly on, let's talk about headliners again . the about headliners again. the brilliant comedian josh howie cancelling himself this week on all popular late night and newspaper review show. i'm going to do that, too, but i'm going to do that, too, but i'm going to do that, too, but i'm going to do an impression of someone that totally in my totally tropical taste . did you used to tropical taste. did you used to have a race? i it was caribbean
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accents. you can't that now. but i was doing an impression of someone doing that. i was actually doing it myself. was it absolutely disgraceful behaviour? not the accent . behaviour? not the accent. getting rid of lilt staying on headliners and who needs context where nick dixon is concerned after josh howie's risky canbbean afterjosh howie's risky caribbean impression. nick's response was a simple one hold my bear slave slavery . good my bear slave slavery. good crikey nick. even for gb, that was a bit strong . and those have was a bit strong. and those have been your clips of the week . been your clips of the week. lots to get through in the next hour. lots to get through in the next hour . all lots to get through in the next hour. all nurses in a&e who are going on strike causing a terrible moral crime. is it morally wrong for them to down the tools in march? also, should onune the tools in march? also, should online abuse be made illegal? but next is rishi sunak on the verge of a brexit break through.
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sir john redwood is .
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next welcome back to mark dolan tonight after nine. in my big opinion , my first on air opinion, my first on air reaction to the departure of nicola sturgeon. but first is rishi sunak on the verge of a brexit? the prime minister has been holding lengthy talks with political parties in northern ireland in an attempt to solve the trading which have arisen since . we left the european since. we left the european union. hopes are high that a deal on contentious northern ireland protocol can be struck. but while sinn fein president mary lou mcdonald says she believes a very significant has been made dup leader sirjeffrey says further work is needed. well, let's get the verdict of former cabinet minister sir john redwood, who's been the mp
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wokingham since 1987 and is one of the most respected voices in conservative politics. john, welcome to the program . good welcome to the program. good evening. thank you forjoining evening. thank you for joining us, do you have sirjohn, evening. thank you for joining us, do you have sir john, the inside track on how this deal is shaking out what its contents may . be? no, i shaking out what its contents may. be? no, i don't shaking out what its contents may . be? no, i don't have an may. be? no, i don't have an inside track . and i note that inside track. and i note that there is no text and i know that they haven't been able to share details . the parties they haven't been able to share details. the parties in they haven't been able to share details . the parties in northern details. the parties in northern ireland. so that implies to me that there is no deal as yet something borne out by what government ministers saying. i would be delighted if the eu at last realised the huge damage. it's been doing to the good agreement and to the relationships between the communities in northern ireland and change their view . the and change their view. the protocol . but i see no evidence protocol. but i see no evidence that they change their view. and unless the eu backs off, there can be satisfactory deal . is it can be satisfactory deal. is it all about satisfying the demands
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of ? the dup, all about satisfying the demands of? the dup, sir, on is that the red line ? it's not just your red line? it's not just your party and the whole unionist community who don't all vote to you . p sometimes very proud of you. p sometimes very proud of the parties. once good friday agreement restored and the central point if they friday agreement was nothing important can happen in ireland unless both communities republican and consent to process and that content has been ruptured by the european union who think they have the right to impose eu laws on northern ireland when northern ireland doesn't have ministers the table in the eu, it doesn't . members of the it doesn't. members of the european parliament, the uk parliament could do nothing . it parliament could do nothing. it it's quite outrageous it's totally undemocratic . and that totally undemocratic. and that is why the unionist community cannot accept the current arrangements and nor should we. because no other country, independent country would accept
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this kind of imposition and there's absolutely no need for it . it's not just about trade. it. it's not just about trade. it's about lawmaking and democratic accountability and the eu wants to impose laws with no . sir john, the eu wants to impose laws with no . sirjohn, all your no. sir john, all your expectations no. sirjohn, all your expectations to remove the protocol altogether to see it ditched or will you accept a tweaked protocol and improved . tweaked protocol and improved. protocol 2.0. we thought about what won't accept. i'm just describing to your viewers the reality in northern ireland, i, like most people care very much about the peace process and the good friday in northern ireland article one of the northern ireland protocol says very clearly and rightly that the protocol takes precedence . protocol takes precedence. sorry, the agreement, the good friday agreement takes precedence over the protocol itself. and that is exactly right. that is what the eu will not understand . and so any not understand. and so any sensible person will say, we need to get the good friday
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agreement fully supported. we need to get both communities onside . and so of course changes onside. and so of course changes need to be made. now the uk do it unilaterally . we put it unilaterally. we put legislation to do it through the house of commons and got very good majorities and it's sitting in the lords and lordship should on with it because that would an answer. and i think if we showed real determination to put that legislation that is the legislation through that is the one thing that might get the eu to around the table to come around the table a proper agreement as a proposal instead digging in behind. it's very divisive way of handling the protocol at the moment. i understand your sentiment in terms of standing up brussels but do we really need a trade war with the eu right now ? well, war with the eu right now? well, it would be a trade war because of course they sell us a lot more than we sell them and we're suggesting they're going to stop buying the things and we're not putting new barriers on their imports way that we imports in the way that we could. have no wish to do could. we have no wish to do that. and i don't think be able
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to trade to under world trade organisation rules and under agreement that reached on trade between the united kingdom and the eu which is a legally binding agreement. how flexible are euroskeptic mps feeling at the moment ? i are euroskeptic mps feeling at the moment? i mean, will you swallow a fudge from number 10? no we don't expect to fudge and we don't want to just explain you that the test of this , not you that the test of this, not about what we think it's about how the unionist community in northern thinks, but at the problem and talking to some of their representatives in westminster. i cannot see how you can reach a comprehensive agreement which gets stormont back up and running unless you tackle this great big problem at the centre of it all, which is not a trade issue. it's the lack of democracy and the imposition of democracy and the imposition of eu rules and laws. and if you take trade and you do not take the trade and you do not need to have a border on
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entering northern ireland from gb for all the internal market trade the united kingdom again, that's quite wrong . a sausage that's quite wrong. a sausage should be able to go from supermarket in britain to a supermarket in britain to a supermarket branch in belfast in, the same way that it could be sent to a supermarket in liverpool. there shouldn't need to be foreign trade type , to be foreign trade type, impositions of electronic paperwork on the movement of those goods within one of our large retail companies, for example . but that's what they're example. but that's what they're seeking to impose by this green and red lane proposal. and with and red lane proposal. and with a control on the way to and northern ireland, it's clear from what you've said, sir john brussels the eu are the barrier to a deal . how brussels the eu are the barrier to a deal. how can we get this deal the line what do you think needs to happen ? well, i think needs to happen? well, i think the best way is for the government to ask their lordships to get on with passing the piece of legislation which would solve the problem because think as soon as the eu realise
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we're serious about doing that, they'd want to around the table with more, more sensible proposals than i think they've offered. so also be offered. so i'd also be delighted for be proved wrong if i up tomorrow and discover i wake up tomorrow and discover there is a tax and the eu has agreed to back off from legislating for northern ireland without democracy, then we can go ahead and that would be wonderful. sirjohn, do you think that's likely ? i think think that's likely? i think it's very unlikely. having watched the eu do battle away to try and stop any kind of brexit against wishes of the british people , and knowing that a few people, and knowing that a few months ago when the government was trying to get agreement, i'd be very surprised if they a major change to say if they have i'll be one of the first to welcome . sirjohn you've said welcome. sirjohn you've said that you don't expect a fudge from number 10. now that's quite a vote of confidence from you in rishi sunak . do you is your rishi sunak. do you is your estimation of the prime minister, do you think that he will stand firm on this? well,
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one of the reasons i don't think he will decide to try and visit fudge upon us is that the test of this is does stormont meet again. because that i think is right is one of the main drivers of this process. and if it's the fudge the unionists parties of northern ireland presumably will not accept it and say stormont will not meet. it would be an ignominious failure . so the ignominious failure. so the prime is not a stupid prime minister is not a stupid man. but i understand putting forward and fudge which didn't work would do him considerable work, would do him considerable damage . john unlocking , this damage. sirjohn unlocking, this issue and we'd all like to see the northern ireland protocol resolved any british patriot anyway if that happens and if it is resolved how significant this be for the prime minister politically , given the fact that politically, given the fact that he wants to demonstrate to the people , the united kingdom, that people, the united kingdom, that he's fit to govern and that he should be our prime minister another five years. it'd be massive , important in northern massive, important in northern ireland, but i think the prime minister has rightly identified
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five major tasks names he has for his government, which don't include resolving the northern ireland protocol because he's chosen five things that resonate with millions of people on the mainland of great britain . mainland of great britain. whilst i am northern ireland. many others think this protocol issue is very important. it doesn't have the same significance. with so many millions of voters as growing the economy would have or ending the economy would have or ending the banks problem would have , or the banks problem would have, or getting the house waiting. this so the prime minister is right for the extra you did. the protocol changes from his five main aims, although it would demonstrate competence, leadership and statecraft, wouldn't it ? yes. be good . i wouldn't it? yes. be good. i strongly welcome it and i admire him. if he pulls it off and gets the eu to change its mind, i would be very impressive. but i'm also a political realist and the fortunes of the conservative party will be much more enhanced when we stop the small boats and when we stop the small boats and when we stop the small boats and when we get the economy again
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and what's your appraisal of those two? very important issues? getting the economy growing. i know that you've been talking low tax for a long time now. you told me on my radio show to years ago that we should go growth . many would argue go for growth. many would argue , with the highest tax burden since second world this since the second world war. this government quite the government are doing quite the opposite . well, i think they do opposite. well, i think they do need to change their policy. need to change their tax policy. and been shy about and i haven't been shy about pointing out . and i haven't been shy about pointing out. i'm and i haven't been shy about pointing out . i'm delighted pointing that out. i'm delighted that both the prime minister and the chancellor now regard as one of their big aims and they are building the budget in march as a growth budget. that's great news . but my message to them now news. but my message to them now is it shouldn't just be on the label, it should also be in the ten that must include some tax cuts, particularly to promote investment enterprise , savings, investment enterprise, savings, self—employment . i think i easy self—employment. i think i easy and relatively cheap win for example to get more growth would be to say to small businesses well up the vat threshold from ,
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well up the vat threshold from, 85,000 to say 250,000. so they could do that extra business without the forbidding task of having to register vat , which having to register vat, which puts a lot of them off from growing the business quickly. there'll be easy wins and on self—employed , i think we can self—employed, i think we can make it easier for people to be self—employed and we should roll some of the aggressive changes from the revenue and 2017 and 2021 over self employed status . 2021 over self employed status. so i think again that's an easy, quick win to an expansion of self—employment both those things, small business and self—employment would increase the capacity of the economy , the capacity of the economy, greatly improve the services to people, and help to bringing inflation down. well, let's hope that the chancellor is using his face and the surprise cuts will come . so, john, i'm asking you come. so, john, i'm asking you to predict a lot tonight. we're turning you into mystic meg . you turning you into mystic meg. you mentioned the illegal. it's to be difficult. well i think you're more reliable. i'll be honest to john. do you do you think the rishi sunak can stop
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the boats? is politically and possible ? i think there are possible? i think there are legal ways to improve the situation considerably. yes am i'm a bit surprised. we haven't seen legislation already . some seen legislation already. some of my colleagues who are experts the law have suggested drafting that they think would be helpful because priti patel was , home because priti patel was, home secretary, wanted to achieve this she put forward legislation but the lawyers still found ways of circling . it's true intent . i of circling. it's true intent. i think there are ways of tightening that legislation out which would make a lot of difference. and the legislation has to be quite express in saying intend to stop this evil trade , risking people's lives trade, risking people's lives and profiting these people who run these illegal based services . that must be the sole intent. and then the legal structure must embed that fully so that it's more proof against lawyers who try to circumvent it. a fascinating conversation, sir
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john, thank you so much for joining on mark dolan tonight. sir john redwood there, former cabinet minister, of course, one of the most high profile and best known politicians in the your reaction mark at gb news dot uk. still to come tonight in my big opinion at nine my first comments on the resignation of nicola sturgeon but before 9:00 bobby norris showed online abuse be illegal or does free speech have to be sacred ? speak to the have to be sacred? speak to the rather powerful social media influencer on that shortly. but next up , should nurses who work next up, should nurses who work in emergency departments a&e, cancer be going on strike? we'll speak to two top figures from the nhs who disagree. don't go anywhere .
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you're not your punches about rishi sunak . the northern
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rishi sunak. the northern ireland protocol market. the gbnews.uk. mark says sandra, i most conservative members i. consider your last guest john redwood, to be the best we never had. what on earth was liz truss thinking appointing jeremy hunt who's never made a success of any ministerial post. pamela rishi sunak is trying to make us believe that there's a good deal on the table. what tosh , i do on the table. what tosh, i do not trust him. he's cosying up to the eu. more your emails shortly. welcome back to mark dolan tonight. the big opinion coming at 9:00. my first on air comments about, coming at 9:00. my first on air comments about , the resignation comments about, the resignation of nicola sturgeon . first the of nicola sturgeon. first the royal college of nursing have announced that thousands of nurses will hold a 48 hour strike at the start of next month in a significant escalation of their dispute with the government over pay and staffing. no services will be exempt from the strike, which means that for the first time those striking will include
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nurses working in emergency departments or , intensive care departments or, intensive care units and in cancer care. public support for the nurses is strong , is withdrawing emergency care a step too? now that's the topic of my take at ten, but let's get the views now of two individuals who don't agree. that's what this show is all about. let's start with sarah jane palmer, a registered nurse who has written regularly for health care journals . sarah jane, welcome to journals. sarah jane, welcome to the show. oh you all nurses a line by not crossing the line and going to work at a&e . yeah, and going to work at a&e. yeah, i would say that it's absolutely abhorrent how can any nurse leave their patients? the suffering and get agency in to replace and simply go out on the picket lines striking is just absolutely unfair and deplorable . nhs managers will argue that they'll have these shifts covered and that patients won't suffer. is that. no, it's not true that. well, they'll have them covered by an agency nurse,
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for example, minimal staffing. they'll have skeleton staffing as they use on christmas day, for example , which is actually for example, which is actually never really that safe in itself. and the majority of those staff will be agency . so those staff will be agency. so if you're using those from an agency , won't the agency, they won't know the wards, they really know wards, they won't really know the the wards . it's not the staff on the wards. it's not as as having nurses from as safe as having nurses from the ward working there. what is the ward working there. what is the worst case scenario? if staffing levels in cancer wards at in a and elsewhere drop standard levels, what's the worst can happen? well, i think could die in this process. it's absolutely it's so unsafe. it's icannot absolutely it's so unsafe. it's i cannot believe they've said that they would use strike in such areas as so is critical that the patients get the correct care in cancer wards and a&e. without that there is death people will suffer and they will potentially die. and we've seen that in the us when they had strikes, the mortality rate went up strikes, the mortality rate went ”p by strikes, the mortality rate went up by quite a large amount. i can't remember the exact statistic, but there was a study
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that showed that the mortality rate did rise as a result of nurse strikes . the strikes can't nurse strikes. the strikes can't be great patient care. be great for patient care. i can't imagine anyone would argue that they are . let's speak to that they are. let's speak to sarah guest now who works as a nurse in, the west midlands. hi, sarah . you so much forjoining sarah. you so much forjoining us. i have . oh, what's what's us. i have. oh, what's what's your what's your reaction to what sarah jane has had to say ? what sarah jane has had to say? well i think one of the issues at the moment is sense that there's a return recruitment and retention crisis in them in nursing , in retention crisis in them in nursing, in other areas of health care , and at the moment, health care, and at the moment, patient care isn't science as it's often that. and i do agree that that some areas should be protected critical care and a, you know, emergency areas like that. but i think out in the previous strikes of often been undertaken that those areas should be protected. but at the
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moment you know all manner of works. i've been a registered nurse for an oversight years and i've never previously voted in favour of striking . and the favour of striking. and the thing that's made me vote this time for strike has been the fact that seen the recruitment and retention , you know, how and retention, you know, how when staffing levels a danger was at the moment even without . was at the moment even without. and you know pay has been you know there's been then you know we haven't had a meaningful pay rise since the credit crunch over ten years ago. if you know, if they want us to have, you know, safe levels of health care , you know, and care for our patients safely, they need to invest in the staff and value value the staff . so, sarah, your value the staff. so, sarah, your argument would be that more lives would be lost in the long run if nurse is don't get a fair deal because nhs won't recruit , deal because nhs won't recruit, it will be long term,
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understaffed no . yes, i mean i, understaffed no. yes, i mean i, i can't remember what i did but i can't remember what i did but ihave i can't remember what i did but i have friends over. the last year there's been a 20% increase in the number staff lay off nurses , the nhs and. i know that nurses, the nhs and. i know that the saying goes . so also health the saying goes. so also health care professionals , physios, care professionals, physios, ambulance staff . in fact during ambulance staff. in fact during that during the recent ambulance strike the actual because people were being sort of scared into not calling the ambulance unless they really needed to in fact they really needed to in fact they actually found the ambulance response times were better during the strike and they are low, but they are normally i mean, you know. okay, well, that's that's certainly encouraging . that goes against encouraging. that goes against the narrative which we like to do show . let's bring do on this show. let's bring sarah jane back , if i can. sarah sarah jane back, if i can. sarah and her view. what's your reaction to what's been said a point made there by sarah guest sarah that actually it's term
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recruitment which is costing lives well long term recruitment is an issue but i don't raising the pay necessary really solves thatissue the pay necessary really solves that issue of the retention of staff because you've got lot of cultural issues within the nhs including a massive problem with bullying that matt hancock was actually talking about a few years ago saying it actually wastes 2.3 billion a year because of the staff sickness rates it causes. so i think there's a lot of cultural that need to be solved that won't be solved with a pay rise. therefore strike action give the raised of patient care that they're desiring from the strike action. so sarah jane , you're action. so sarah jane, you're saying there's a culture of bullying in the nhs and among nurses. is it inside or is it from management? what's the source from everywhere ? you get source from everywhere? you get belief from management, but then also the management usually promote the bullies, the lower down and sort of it just becomes
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institutionalised workforce basically . you've got a lot of basically. you've got a lot of problems with that many nhs workforces, so well that's a sarah guest, which is to tackle absenteeism , the nhs plenty of absenteeism, the nhs plenty of nurses on the payroll who aren't in . post while they get sick or in. post while they get sick or . what do you mean they're not recording according yeah, they're not, they're not at work. they're not, they're not. so they're not turned up. well they're off. see and sick stressed the sounds of it. what sarah jane said that there's a bullying culture that depressed they don't come in to work at. yeah they've got a massive stigma i would agree that probably there is a bullying culture in the in the nhs and you know, which i would agree with with that and then there are cultural issues that needs addressing, but i think you know , to recruit the new members of staff into when to improve
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conditions to an extent pay is of it. i'm not saying it's the complete answer, but it is. it is you know, it is part, part of the answer. do you sarah guessed that the unions have overplayed their hand by asking 20, given their hand by asking 20, given the fact that the debt is now over 2 trillion and inflation is running at 10, i well, as far as i'm aware, they all see and hasn't asked for 20. they now 90% was the last so figure inflation plus 5% and it's i guess eventually when then they were go the pay review body back in january inflation was around about 7% or something like that. so yeah, 19 was the figure that was the composite amount, including what was factored in for inflation. and sarah, what would you say though to any families who may be from low staffing levels during these strikes even bereaved families who may have lost someone in an
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anti ward or in a cancer ward ? anti ward or in a cancer ward? well as i have already said , i well as i have already said, i mean i mean, i, i haven't actually personally been on strike the trust that i was working. we didn't meet the threshold , the 50% threshold for threshold, the 50% threshold for people voting to actually be able to strike and actually alternate agree with people in emergency areas and not in a&e and cancer areas as in previous strikes, i think they should they should be those areas should be protected . and i think should be protected. and i think that escalation by the auction is wrong myself . sarah jane, can is wrong myself. sarah jane, can you accept the strikes if it's not a&e and if it's not cancer , not a&e and if it's not cancer, i still don't accept the strikes any way. i think when you sign up to be a nurse , you do it as up to be a nurse, you do it as a moral calling, help people. and it's not the salary. and you go on strike and try and get higher salary that won't actually improve staff retention and it won't actually do any favours for your patients. you're paying them at home. no, don't them at home. so no, i don't
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agree strikes sarah agree with the strikes sarah guest . love our nurses. we love guest. love our nurses. we love we love sarah jane. we love the thousands of men and women across this country who take care of us when we need them most. as i'll be saying in my 10:00 take at ten, the actually the nurses have been through hell the last three years in the course of the pandemic salute their work . course of the pandemic salute their work. but do course of the pandemic salute their work . but do they risk their work. but do they risk bringing themselves in to disrupt hewitt with these strikes do they risk losing pubuc strikes do they risk losing public support from those departments that you object to as well. a&e cancer. well, yes. so, you know i believe they do risk losing support. and i think , you know, i mean, personally myself, i am i don't think the 4% or just over 4% that we got offered we imposed on the early offered we imposed on the early of this year was enough. but i know what the financial crime it's like i'm not expecting 19% and i personally have not asked for that. something closer to
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inflation would, but that's round about what would be fair. i mean, i say , sarah, guess what i mean, i say, sarah, guess what would you say to unions who are rejecting . nine or 10? i think rejecting. nine or 10? i think they're being unreasonable myself to be to be honest , if myself to be to be honest, if i had been offered that , you know, had been offered that, you know, because i know they got offered a similar approach, a deal close to that in scotland, i have voted to accept that myself because i think that's that would be reasonable . closing would be reasonable. closing thoughts sarah jane , i think you thoughts sarah jane, i think you i still i don't change my position on the fact that i feel the strike action is wrong. but i do think that there be some kind of settlement where perhaps eight or 9, 10% should be agreed upon and i think harm needs to stop caused to patients. i think it's getting ridiculous. now the there's such a risk people in cancer wards and a&e departments . so i just hope that a peaceful resolution can be come to can be
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sought in all of this. resolution can be come to can be sought in all of this . sarah sought in all of this. sarah guest it's been bugging me for the whole interview. is it sarah or sara ? it is. it is sarah. or sara? it is. it is sarah. it's about sara. well, i'm glad . got that right. i got lucky and we got lucky having you on the show your first time on the programme. i look forward to our next air encounter. thank you next on air encounter. thank you feel considered thoughts. also, my to sarah palmer. my thanks to sarah jane palmer. i know how to pronounce her name. she is a registered nurse who written for several who has written for several health care journals and is a regular voice on gb news. thank you both. your reaction mark at gb news dot uk. i'll be discussing the nurses issue in my take at ten at 10:00 and i'm not pulling my punches. still to come, speaking of that's in my big opinion at my first on air reaction to nicola resignation my verdict on eight years from this sized dictator my mop meets
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guest is mark williams thomas ex—cop and bestselling author who exposed jemmy savile. but next should online abuse be made a legal or is that a threat to your freedom of speech? we'll that.
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next join camilla tominey at 930 on sunday morning when i'll be speaking to penny mordaunt, leader the house of commons about defence spending nicola sturgeon and her prime ministerial ambitions and much more. i'll also be asking graham brady, chairman of the 1922 committee of backbench tories , committee of backbench tories, how the party plans to win next general election without . boris general election without. boris johnson and calum best son of manchester united , george best, manchester united, george best, will be me. what it was like to live in the shadow. a flawed genius. all that and more. at 930 on . sunday
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930 on. sunday welcome back to mark dolan tonight and my on air verdict to resignation of nicola sturgeon at exactly 9:00 with my big opinion . welcome back to the opinion. welcome back to the show and. regulating people's behaviour online has become a major talking in the modern world and as concerns grow over a series of troubling issues, the government taking action with an safety bill in the works the bill will reportedly seek to tackle the problem of online abuse by forcing platforms to remove content deemed harmful but should posting abusive content . be but should posting abusive content. be illegal in the first place? what about free speech? let's discuss this now . let's discuss this now. presenter and tv bobby norris , presenter and tv bobby norris, who's been a victim of online trolling and has campaigned on the issue . hey, bobby, welcome the issue. hey, bobby, welcome to the show . how you doing? to the show. how you doing? thanks for having me. it's to .
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thanks for having me. it's to. great have you on the show? can you tell me your story? bobby, you're very popular presenter. an online media star. what has happened to so i start age and we had a tv show galloway's ethics probably 11 maybe 12 years ago now. back then instagram wasn't really a thing and it was shows and it was very much in it and say so. it was all about twitter at the time and in the early , actually and in the early, actually relatively the trolling quite low. but i think reality tv become what it's become over last few years. i mean, back then terry was kind of the first of its kind in terms of reality tv as an ongoing and my trolling. i only ever received was solely about my sexuality , was solely about my sexuality, which i mean you could troll me for 15 years i'm never going to wake up straight in the morning
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you know. i mean, you're wasting your wasting your time on twitter, instagram and instagram . i'm obviously blown up. i'm going to huge platform and what i've received from our kids. i first just want to put this out live in terms of the freedom of speech. live in terms of the freedom of speech . i would never want to speech. i would never want to take away freedom of speech. i love anything you do. you know, i've made i'm full of them and people should allowed to have their voice , have they have their voice, have they have opinions. that's the lowest we're viewing the public awareness or no, not everyone in life is going to like everyone and we have to be okay with that. but this isn't about being a snowflake. someone's tweet is saying, i don't like your wearable growing. don't look good on you. you know what? as a gay man in his thirties , i've gay man in his thirties, i've got quite a thick skin. i've signed out to find a gay man. i think that is in his values, as in got a relatively thick skin. plus working in this industry for 12 years, that makes it thicker. and if we don't get fake , you don't last quick.
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thicker. and if we don't get fake , you don't last quick . and fake, you don't last quick. and so for me, when i started campaigning about this four and a half years ago, i think it was this wasn't even just about anymore. this was for other people . as i say, i can kind people. as i say, i can kind it's like it's not nice . and it it's like it's not nice. and it was solely about and it turned and become very dark, very quick death rates . i can't even go death rates. i can't even go into details on what i've received and, how bad it was, but when i tell you, i was told graphically how i was going to be murdered, that was set outside my house. i was going to petrol bomb may they send me content that no one should ever have to witness and that kind of stuff stays with you so this certainly isn't about freedom of speech. i'm more than happy for people to have opinions. of course . if you don't like saying course. if you don't like saying you say it on the telly. we've all get those things on telly. don't like it . all get those things on telly. don't like it. but would i then
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pick up my and tweet instagram the person it's on screen and tell them i'm going to go save some from it and i'm to but i'm going to it as as i say, it's far too much for people. i'm going to friday night to listen to it. so we'll be what's that done to your mental health? what are your emotions when you when you see a message like that on social that they're going to burn down your house i mean as i so in terms of when it was solely about my sexuality, it was kind water off a duck's back, which is kind of sad in a way that . we're in a world where way that. we're in a world where you kind of set to tolerate homophobia, as i, i think my age plays a part in that i'm thankful. i think people in the gay community probably slightly it's been a lot better for them . but i could take that because , as i say at the top of the show, you could troll me for 50 years. you know, i'm not going to go to bed and wake up with a wife the morning and i wouldn't
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want. disrespect , i wife the morning and i wouldn't want. disrespect, i know wife the morning and i wouldn't want. disrespect , i know what want. no disrespect, i know what i'm on, you know what i'm saying? but i think lines crossed when it when things are different, it does become a little bit scary. but i and i was getting calls from production i was working on at the moment that was getting slightly worried about it. and i was like, look, believe me, i'm not looking through my below i'm thinking they're out. so it knows you're going to go out today. and if it was not my day off and was like, oh, yeah, off and i was like, oh, yeah, 9°, 9° off and i was like, oh, yeah, go, go to the supermarket, i go, go, go to the supermarket, i can't not go and get like bread and milk out of that and milk out of fear that someone's to. yeah and my someone's going to. yeah and my mentality is you'd like to think if someone at in their in their warped mind are you going to tick off off before thinking what if he's going to go and get his craven move if we buy it so that this other brands are available. but if we saw a dystopian market, we're going to tell him our family told keep they savvy. so if you they more savvy. so if you wanted to work and you probably wouldn't tell just before. so i
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think it was more about other people around. me as i say. so like we're not going to sleep. and i put my head on the pillow i kind of say povo, i until it got dark. and when i say mark like , yeah, horrendous that like, yeah, horrendous that stuff stayed like some of the content was sent and the video that did affect me, but this is a rising problem . they're not a rising problem. they're not just the celebrities. this is across the board. so something does need to be done, but it can't be about taking away freedom of speech needs to be pretty much hate speech is a given whether on oxford street or social media. but the laws on marrying up again of to various mvpds over the last four and a half years. well what's going to parliament and go into these debates and i've yet to come across one that disagrees with what i'm from whatever what i'm saying from whatever party it's a shocker what you've
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through my heart goes out to you you have got a thick skin but no one go through that level one should go through that level of abuse. i'm glad to see you looking. you look looking. well, you don't look old by way. you look about 20 yourself. so you got to worry aboutin yourself. so you got to worry about in terms of your appearance. i'll do anything for that tan . listen, come and see that tan. listen, come and see the studio soon. i really enjoyed our chat tonight . thank enjoyed our chat tonight. thank you. i'd love to. i'll see you say, mark. have a lovely evening. take a go. reality legend . bobby norris, the man legend. bobby norris, the man responsible for the only way is essex. you love him or possibly not him for that. but what a guy. and what an interesting conversation. it's shocking, isn't it what people say in the anonymity of online post. anonymity of an online post. quite it's quite shocking. i personally full disclosure, i that as somebody in the public eye the public are entitled to have a go at me and slag me off and tell me i'm useless, all the rest of it. i believe in free speech, but if you're saying you're going to start killing
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people, you've crossed the line. think that's where free speech comes to an end next up in my big opinion, i'll be dealing with sturgeon first on big opinion, i'll be dealing wit reaction sturgeon first on big opinion, i'll be dealing wit reaction to urgeon first on big opinion, i'll be dealing wit reaction to heron first on big opinion, i'll be dealing wit reaction to her departure.: on air reaction to her departure. you go anywhere
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on mark dolan tonight in my big opinion my reaction to the biggest news story of the week. i called it six weeks ago nicholas perkins extreme political correctness has proved to be her downfall all my reaction to the minister's resignation is up. my mark means is the journalist who exposed the monsterjemmy is the journalist who exposed the monster jemmy savile is the journalist who exposed the monsterjemmy savile did he get away with those crimes for so long? mark williams thomas we'll be discussing one of britain's most prolific sex offenders was only proven guilty following . his death also , he'll
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following. his death also, he'll be explaining how you hunt for a killer is a big question has brexit failed. we'll hear from both sides on that one. a strong red blooded brexiteer and a bit of a remainer. yes, indeed. thanks do exist. still also in the news agenda with my panel. have the police failed at nicola bulley and also has the bbc licence fee had day lots to get through, including big opinion and nicola sturgeon . but first and nicola sturgeon. but first the headlines with tassie a sanchez. the headlines with tassie a sanchez . evening. thank you very sanchez. evening. thank you very much. this is the from the gb newsroom. the prime minister says we have and got a deal yet as he vowed to continue negotiating with the european commission on the northern ireland protocol rishi sunak talks with stormont leaders this morning to try to resolve a post brexit trading arrangements . brexit trading arrangements. he'll meet eu leaders in germany tomorrow amid speculation a deal
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could be unveiled early next week. the dup's says progress has been made . mr. sunak says has been made. mr. sunak says there's more work to do . well there's more work to do. well there's more work to do. well the test that i've set myself is that we protect ireland's place in our internal market, that we protect the belfast friday agreement, that we resolve the practical issues, that the protocol is causing families and businesses in northern ireland, and crucially, that we address the democratic deficit. those are the issues that we need to work through. and that's what my ministerial colleagues and i will talking to the eu about will be talking to the eu about . three people have been pulled out alive from rubble in turkey today , 11 days after devastating today, 11 days after devastating earthquake shook the region. more than 45,000 are now known to have been killed in three major earthquake hit southern turkey and northern on the 6th of february. millions have been left homeless, sparking world relief effort, although aid has been slower to reach. the world health organisation has appealed
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for £70 million to help with the care of those who have been rescued . lancashire police has rescued. lancashire police has confirmed it's going to conduct an internal review into the nicola bulley investigation. it's after the home secretary suella braverman questioned why the force disclosed details of missing mum's private life dunng missing mum's private life during news conference. lancashire police have said she'd suffered some significant issues with alcohol in the past and struggles with menopause. it then referred itself to the police . the department for police. the department for transport has announced a cap on bus fares in england will be by three months. th e £2 cap, which three months. the £2 cap, which appues three months. the £2 cap, which applies more than 130 bus companies outside of london, was due to end in march, but has been extended until the end of june.the been extended until the end of june. the aim is to passenger numbers, but also to help bus uses during the cost of living crisis . uses during the cost of living crisis. roads and local transport minister. crisis. roads and local transport minister . richard transport minister. richard holden says the caps positive. i
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think it's got to go hand in glove with actually getting people on the bus network as well because what we want to see is a thriving bus network in every part of the country, whether that's in the somerset or in a like bristol. well, or in a city like bristol. well, we want to see those bus networks really thriving and people able use them. and people being able use them. and also fare cap, i think also this £2 fare cap, i think will really people think will really help people think differently about buses, especially the but it also especially when the but it also take into account things like parking and all that sort of thing when you're trying to get into or city and a into a town or city and a catering has confirmed a bid to buy league football club united shake bin hamad al funny is the chairman of one of qatar's biggest banks . the qataris are biggest banks. the qataris are the second group after surge and ratcliffe to submit a bid to buy 100% of the club ahead of . this 100% of the club ahead of. this evening's soft deadline of 10 pm. the glazer family completed their controversial takeover offer at old trafford in 2005 tv
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online and the 80 plus radio show with now it's back to mark dolan tonight. my thanks to the excellent tatiana sanchez who returns in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight my big opinion, my reaction to the news that i called six weeks ago nicola sturgeon's extreme political correctness proved to be her downfall . my reaction to the downfall. my reaction to the first minister's resignation is coming up in the big question has brexit failed ? we'll hear has brexit failed? we'll hear from jonathan porter at the top who doesn't like brexit very much. and at top of brexit is stephen wolf, who says the best thing we've ever done . my march thing we've ever done. my march meets guest is journalist who exposed monster savile, mark williams, thomas be discussing why one of britain's most prolific sex offenders was only
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proven following his death . proven following his death. plus, he'll be explaining how you hunt a killer. at 1030 sharp, we'll have morning's papers with full panel reaction. and in the news , have the police and in the news, have the police failed ? nicola bulley. and also failed? nicola bulley. and also the bbc licence fee had its day. reacting those stories and many more are my fantastic panel of the queen of gb news breakfast tv's stephanie takyi journalist agony aunt and best selling author . but that's agony aunt and best selling author. but that's neil hamilton , whose photo bombed basically journalist, agony, aunt and best selling author hilary freeman , selling author hilary freeman, who is not easily confused with the leader of ukip and former tory mp , loves to have a camera tory mp, loves to have a camera on his face in your own time. thanksi on his face in your own time. thanks i think we've got an early eclipse the week here. neil hamilton we've a great panel neil hamilton we've a great panel. neil hamilton, hilary and stephanie takyi. what more. could you ask for now? i want to hear from you throughout the
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show. mark at gb news uk, the bit on the show is when you get touch.i bit on the show is when you get touch. i love your emails. i read them uncensored on that it's it, so it's always quite exciting. and this show has a golden . do you know what that golden. do you know what that rule is? we have a very rule because the golden rule, the platinum we do boring. not platinum rule, we do boring. not on my watch . i just won't have on my watch. i just won't have it . so for the next 2 hours, big it. so for the next 2 hours, big debates , big guests and always debates, big guests and always big opinions. debates, big guests and always big opinions . let's start with big opinions. let's start with this . one big opinions. let's start with this. one parting is such big opinions. let's start with this . one parting is such sweet this. one parting is such sweet sorrow , pint sized populist. sorrow, pint sized populist. nicola sturgeon is no more . and nicola sturgeon is no more. and i called it six weeks ago in the first minister of scotland, nicola self—destruct over the issue of trans rights , issue of trans rights, culminating in a double rapist being accommodated in a prison by cancelling women. nicola sturgeon looks to have cancelled herself and there you have it .
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herself and there you have it. as i've said for a long time, wokeness is also known as extreme political contains. within it , the seeds of its own within it, the seeds of its own destroy . why? because the ideas destroy. why? because the ideas within it also bonkers. like ideology, which, put bluntly , ideology, which, put bluntly, that a man is a woman or a woman is a man purely upon how they feel , is a man purely upon how they feel, ignoring the scientific reality of biological sex. in the end, notwithstanding of the nonsense and posturing from high profile media figures , profile media figures, politicians and powerful and corporations , the truth will corporations, the truth will ultimately defeat wokeism . the ultimately defeat wokeism. the truth will navigate its way through the hyperbole , the through the hyperbole, the bullying and the propaganda and make its way out just like water through . a leaky roof. having to through. a leaky roof. having to achieve her dream of independence, it's my view nicola sturgeon has left with no tangible legacy other than more
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than half the populace of scotland, with her controversial trans policies, including the new self i.d. bill, which allows a bloke to call himself a woman. after about 10 minutes of thinking about it. now i exaggerate, but you get point. this policy allows a biological, fully intact to identify as completely different sex a woman and to enjoy unfettered access to women's sex based rights . to women's sex based rights. after just three months with no need for a professional gnosis. leaving actual biological need for a professional gnosis. females, they're not hard to define exposed to intact biological males in female prisons. female changing rooms, female toilet rape crisis centres , you name it. this is centres, you name it. this is progress , is it? so with crazy progress, is it? so with crazy and ideological, progress, is it? so with crazy and ideological , sturgeon has and ideological, sturgeon has thrown under the bus by cancer women. she has cancelled herself
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. astonishing. really a highly politically astute and operator who did make herself one of the most significant public figures in european politics. she successfully won a propaganda war against boris johnson . the war against boris johnson. the pandemic announcing hours or sometimes before london under the then pm, she's achieved extraordinary success, having scotland into an effective party state partly off the back of the abject failure of the tories and labour north the border by. but now she's out . and what's she now she's out. and what's she got to show for its eye—watering levels of drug deaths. a shocking gap in education that she promised to fix and asked be judged on. and a scottish which is billions in the red. public health in scotland is atrocious and not deep fried. mars bars to blame. it's nicola sturgeon's
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policies because she was in charge. it all happened on her watch. it's if she hadn't allowed the capture of her party she could look forward to another of political dominance . another of political dominance. but the woke took her down, as it always will. we've seen that in new zealand with the holier than thou premier of new zealand, jacinda ardern, the kiwi mussolini herself . he was kiwi mussolini herself. he was outrageous and, illiberal policies all in the name of being nice and being progressive brought such misery and to the people of new zealand during the pandemic, new zealand was not a free, rational western democracy . it was a totalitarian hell in which the hashtag bekind superstar ardern spoke proudly of creating a vaccine apartheid with , a two tier society for with, a two tier society for those jabbed and those not. she also at one point at the height of her announced the government
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was the only source of information . well, i'm delighted information. well, i'm delighted to say that kiwi mussolini has gone. there's a pattern emerging emerging that you can see that sturgeon, in my view, wasn't much . and the snp's covid much. and the snp's covid response was stricter than england's example, with johnson england's example, with johnson england out of covid measures in july 2021, whilst scotland maintained hellish mask mandates and other covid. sturgeon would they were focussed on saving with a stricter policy , but the with a stricter policy, but the numbers don't add up with scotland's covid death toll comparable with the rest of the uk, if not worse now, nicola sturgeon is often compared to wee jemmy cranky but i beg to differ because sturgeon's rule has been no laughing matter. she's gone with her goes the snp's magical hold on the great country of scotland with goes an appalling assault on. women's rights via the gender bill and
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with her the dream of independence . at least for now . independence. at least for now. woke warriors. be warned , the woke warriors. be warned, the war is going badly and your generals are falling by the day. nicola sturgeon is not a bad person. and as i've mentioned, she has her talents . but it's my she has her talents. but it's my view that she's been for scotland and her career has endedin scotland and her career has ended in self—inflicted . so ended in self—inflicted. so first minister, as you enter a early retirement. good luck and good riddance riddance . all done good riddance riddance. all done down sturgeon down. whose what's your reaction ? sturgeon's your reaction? sturgeon's supporters would argue . she's supporters would argue. she's done a good job with the economy services and the pursuit of independence. otherwise why did she being re—elected on a landslide? their arguments would be that scotland was not held back by her policies, but by westminster working against the
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scottish scottish national interests . so what's your view? interests. so what's your view? do you agree? do you disagree with what i've said? mark at gb dot uk. i'll get to your emails shortly, but let's get the view of my panel. broadcaster techy. journalist best selling author hilary freeman and the leader of ukip and former tory mp neil hamilton. stephanie let me start with you. will you? ms. nicola sturgeon i am going to miss her, mark because when i look at the political at the moment, trying find good female political , find good female political, they're going by one by one. what we've lost, jacinda. we lost rightly so . and we've lost rightly so. and we've nicola now, you know , whether nicola now, you know, whether you like or leave her, you can't deny she has been a force to reckon with in politics. both internationally and domestically . it's a shame that she gave into the woke politics and she minimised what being woman is by our birthright. for that i think she does deserve leave by the back door. but in terms of her career, she able to hold her own
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for quite a very long time. but despite what she's done recently, she now has made a spot of , her legacy and she spot of, her legacy and she won't have that all seen. singing good bye that she should have for a career . singing good bye that she should have for a career. but i think one thing we will never get enough nicola sturgeon again. and in that sense we have to give where credit is on that. we can definitely agree. hilary freeman it's my view that nicola sturgeon would be in power for another years if she hadn't succumbed to the woke agenda and the madness of this self id bill. yeah, i think probably right there. i think she planted her flag on the wrong cause there and i don't think she left there and i don't think she left the and i think she believed that everybody agreed with her and that is not what the general pubuc and that is not what the general public thinks. and that is not what the general public thinks . and i think that public thinks. and i think that the tide is turning in the south i d and the whole thing now with people starting to realise what the implications are and saying
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they the, the case of the i can't remember the name of the person, i'm sorry but the rapist that was put in a female prison and then you know there's been other cases too . i think she was other cases too. i think she was very silly too, to have that as her, as as her sort of political football, which i think she was just trying use to differentiate from westminster and it kind of backfired on her. i wouldn't deed the double rapist you refer to as, i'll bryson who who's a female name. i say through gritted teeth. but one thing is clear neil hamilton, it's i'll have bryson has ended nicola sturgeon's career and possibly dream of independence. yeah. well sturgeon's fantasy is ultimately founded on the rocks of reality , hasn't it? and it of reality, hasn't it? and it was useful diversion for sturgeon of course. the independence debate. it took people's attention away from reality of the collapse of pubuc reality of the collapse of public services in scotland to an even greater level than in england, and the outcomes in and
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health were even worse than in england, where they're bad enough anyway. and so it was, you could argue the toss about independence till the cows come home. he's going to make you blind to the difference to the living standards of ordinary scottish people. and sturgeon was with that, of was quite happy with that, of course getting of course. but getting rid of sturgeon isn't necessarily going to improvement to to bring an improvement to because insofar as it might lead a recovery of the labour party , a recovery of the labour party, is that going to make any difference? i've no idea . okay. difference? i've no idea. okay. you know sturgeon was a colourful figure and she imprinted herself upon the public's mind. but in terms of any practical improvement, ordinary people , then her ordinary people, then her achievement was zero. but then you could say that about the governments of england and scotland and, wales altogether, you know, they're all of a piece . that's the view of my panel . . that's the view of my panel. will you miss nicola sturgeon ? will you miss nicola sturgeon? mark gbnews.uk in the news agenda. coming up, have the
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police failed? nicola bulley and also has the bbc licence fee had its stay? i want your views that as well. my more means guest is mark williams. thomas the man who essentially called out blew the whistle in relation to jemmy savile. but next in the big question , has brexit failed? we question, has brexit failed? we got a red blooded and a rather passionate remainer. sparks will fly. see you .
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in three. well, a big reaction . my big well, a big reaction. my big opinion. let's have a look at your emails market. gb news .uk. hi, mark says chris in aberdeen. what a beautiful part of the country. chris says hi mark. big fan of the show. i hope the news first minister focuses the day to day issues that matter to people in scotland. however it will be the same party in charge and same woke policies. labour
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would be no different either. it's time a new centre right eurosceptic in scotland . chris, eurosceptic in scotland. chris, thanks for that and keep those emails coming. it's time for this . it's emails coming. it's time for this. it's time now for the big question in which we tackle a major news story of the day tonight. in a recent poll, over 50% of leavers have said they believe that brexit was a mistake. is it too soon to judge our departure from the european union, given the fact that we've the unprecedented impact of the covid 19 pandemic? has brexit the economy dear ? are we all the the economy dear? are we all the poorer for it or ? was brexit the poorer for it or? was brexit the important, fulfilled moment of a democratic mandate which has restored sovereignty to our shores and insulated us against the worst excesses of the eu . is the worst excesses of the eu. is the worst excesses of the eu. is the best of brexit yet to come? well, let's hear both sides, as we always do. on the big question. i'm delighted to welcome senior fellow uk for a changing europe . professor
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changing europe. professor jonathan portes and former ukip mep , broadcaster and political mep, broadcaster and political commentator. mep, broadcaster and political commentator . the mep, broadcaster and political commentator. the wonderful stephen wolf. stephen if i could start with you. has brexit been a mistake ? no. brexit certainly a mistake? no. brexit certainly a mistake? no. brexit certainly a mistake. it was one of the most magna efficient and wonderful examples of democ across the globe that we've not only my generation, but actually in the past hundreds of years which enabled ordinary people , which enabled ordinary people, be able to take a chance and tell the elites of country that they were in the wrong direction, that they weren't listening to them. and it's about time that did. when brexit hasn't failed , because brexit hasn't failed, because brexit really hasn't been brexit's been stifled . brexit has been stymied stifled. brexit has been stymied . brexit has been untrammelled by those same elites who just cannot accept . they just cannot cannot accept. they just cannot accept that they were wrong. and the ordinary predominantly , the the ordinary predominantly, the poorest in the country,
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predominantly , are the working predominantly, are the working class northerners and midlands and those in the coast, class northerners and midlands and those in the coast , those and those in the coast, those who are not in the 5% income earners of this country , like earners of this country, like jonathan, who's going to oppose in a minute, predominantly they're not the elites and they're not the elites and they're the ones who've had to watch a political a civil service establishment and business people who just don't believe in it, because that global chocolate trotters who don't believe the poor have ignored them . they're trying to ignored them. they're trying to make sure that it never, ever happensin make sure that it never, ever happens in any positive way whatsoever. jonathan porter, it's good to have you back on the show. well. brexit has been a because it happened and a democratic mandate was fulfilled . yes. i mean, i agree with that. it's odd. you described me as a passionate remainer. i've never stated a preference for brexit or against brexit from a political point of view. i'm an economist. it's not my job. i expect people to be particularly interested. my views about sovereignty . it's perfectly
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sovereignty. it's perfectly reasonable to say that sovereignty was big concern is perfectly reasonable to say we had a democratic vote and that brexit as a consequence. i no problem with any of that . i'm problem with any of that. i'm just here , as i understand it, just here, as i understand it, to talk about the facts and what the economics . so let's get to the economics. so let's get to it first. i'll just correct stephen, though, on this point about him very. well, that's the wheel well. we're going to unilaterally remove the label remainer and as a top economics professor, your concern about the economic impact of brexit. and i can't imagine you would would have voted for brexit we can agree on that jonathan . well can agree on that jonathan. well as i said i mean i think i said the vote that brexit would have, that there were good arguments for and against brexit on political and sovereignty grounds that i stand by, that there arguments on both sides, that on economic grounds. however it was always clear it always an absolute consensus across the ideological spectrum among serious economists the economies of trade, that brexit
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would not be catastrophic from an economic point of view. and i don't think it has been catastrophic bad economic forward view, but it do some significant damage. it would make trade more and that would make trade more and that would make us poorer. and i'm afraid on this. the experts were right it hasn't been a catastrophe . it it hasn't been a catastrophe. it has made trade more difficult andifs has made trade more difficult and it's made us somewhat poorer . there's no real doubt about that no one seriously disputes serious economist really disputes . those are just the disputes. those are just the facts. now it's perfectly reasonable for stephen to say well, it's still worth it, the cost was worth it because we've got our sovereignty back in certain respects. i have no with that position at all. we just need to get the facts right. stephen wolff, would you like to respond to that? that brexit is justified, but economically, that's jonathan porter's point . that's jonathan porter's point. well, i agree with jonathan in the sense that what we have seen since brexit occurs and politically i believe it
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absolutely right that we should have a nation that is sovereign to itself, just as many other nafions to itself, just as many other nations are, the globe where, jonathan, i probably is, that i don't think that we've really had the strength of will within our political elites or indeed those within the civil service to try and ensure that the potential benefits that were out outside of the european union work. i remember very clearly that on the day of we were going to be told there would be an immediate recession. masson unemployment, mass increase interest rates and in inflation those were what cameron osborne the bank of england, the world economic, all of them said that would happen day that we left and it didn't happen the day that we well a lot of these things a lot of these occurred since then and that's down to things such as covid. the implications prior to the war in ukraine, the implications since the ukraine. but where i would
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say that jonathan and i would agree is that in terms of trade and the friction vis , a v, and the friction vis, a v, northern ireland, for example , northern ireland, for example, is because that just has not anyone strong enough. and boris certainly wasn't strong enough the time to force the decisions of separating ourselves , the of separating ourselves, the european union's regulations we still have the argument today . still have the argument today. many of our rules still follow the eu and without that separation from the eu, we cannot move forward rapidly enough. or indeed to take benefit of brexit. jonathan, let's let's look at the numbers and let's look at the economy, which you understandably want to focus on. well, we no longer pay the best part of focus on. well, we no longer pay the best part 0 focus on. well, we no longer pay the best part of £22 billion a year to brussels . we also won't year to brussels. we also won't have to share the cost of the eu's pandemic response, which some suggested could be in excess some suggested could be in exces s £100 billion for the uk excess £100 billion for the uk alone. those bills we're now not paying alone. those bills we're now not paying . oh well of course we got paying. oh well of course we got
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most of tha t £22 billion back in most of that £22 billion back in the rebate spending that came here . and of course you can hear here. and of course you can hear the complaints and down the country now from those local authorities in those areas that are now missing out, all that spending. so of course, it goes both ways. but yes, we have made some savings. on the other hand , those have been and again, the numbers are pretty clear on this, hugely outweighed by the reduction in our gdp , the reduction in our gdp, the reduction in our gdp, the reduction in our gdp, the reduction in trade, and hence the in tax revenues. you can look at the government and of course, this is the last time it provided brexit. the government's own economic analysis, which says as a result of brexit we have less revenue. so you are paying tax and getting worse services than you otherwise would have brexit. those are just rare. but let me come back to some things on which i agree with the first of all, i think stephen was is absolutely right that cameron and osborne a of and osborne talked a lot of nonsense and economists in including me and i can point back to what said at the time that they were scaremongering the brexit would be
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the damage from brexit would be over to long term , over the medium to long term, not an immediate recession. and that indeed what that of course is indeed what has happened. so i think he's right there. and second, another point where stephen, i might agree, at least in part, stephen talks during the and talks a lot during the and i remember because we had some panel discussions about moving to a system where we did for immigration purposes we treated people coming from inside the eu and outside the eu equally and that indeed is what the you know so that is something where we have made a big break. you know, we have taken the advantage of being outside the eu have entirely on system now have an immigration system that treats people from inside the new and outside the eu equally somewhat to my surprise and i have to admit i was wrong about this it's actually led to more immigration, if anything, rather than less . we in the latest than less. we saw in the latest figures immigration overall has gone up, especially people coming here to work in the national health service, work and and actually on the and finance and actually on the whole, i mean, i thought that
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the changes immigration would be a big negative. and i was wrong. i mean, i'm not you know, there are pluses and minuses, but actually it hasn't worked out badly, jonathan. i mean, i want to come to stephen i've to come back to stephen i've only got couple seconds only got a couple of seconds left. you about left. can i just you about whether judging brexit too whether we're judging brexit too quickly because you're an economist , a massive to economist, a massive shock to leave bloc that and that leave a bloc that and that really you can only judge brexit in the medium to long term after a decade or two decades and also britain has not fallen over since we left. and in fact i understand that were the fastest growing economy in the g7 last year so it's not shoddy ? well, year so it's not shoddy? well, no, on the second point, let's be clear , fell significantly be clear, fell significantly more than others during the pandemic. we've recovered more slowly so we're now the only country that has still a lower level of output than before the pandemic. so i've looked over the whole period. we certainly have underperformed. i know this speech that. but when you are main point, i think that's perfectly so far impacts
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perfectly so far the impacts brexit have been broadly what we predicted and they've been negative. but in over ten or 20 years could we revise our views as more facts come in, things change. yes, i think that's a perfectly reasonable point to make we will, as economists be doing analysis at least doing this analysis for at least the next to 20 years. absolutely stephen. wolf, the last word this is, i think about the economy, because that's what my view is care about what's the cost of living, is the pound in their pocket, security and all their pocket, security and all the rest of it. so, you know, in end, has brexit succeeded ? it end, has brexit succeeded? it failed. what's your prognosis ? failed. what's your prognosis? brexit will succeed . my brexit will succeed. my prognosis is that, as i said before, brexit been stifled and there is a great opportun unity for us to grow in in the future. jp for us to grow in in the future. jp morgan during their analysis of the said that there would be a full in economic terms in the long term they could also that brexit would grow . but my view brexit would grow. but my view is that brexit will only once we are able to disillusion
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ourselves from the european union's regulations of the whole just choosing those small portions that we want to. if we don't , then we will be trapped don't, then we will be trapped in. the negative spiral rather than the positive that i believe the country could go to in the future. jonathan the cracking debates a thanks to professor jonathan porteous, senior fellow at uk for a changing europe , not at uk for a changing europe, not at uk for a changing europe, not a remainer, just that's focusing on the economics of the issues around brexit and former ukip mep , broadcaster and political mep, broadcaster and political commentator stephen wolf. gentlemen, thank you for that. you your reaction. mark gbnews.uk uk. coming up in mark meets my mark meets guest is the man exposed it jemmy savile former mark williams thomas we got the papers at exactly 1030 sharp with full panel and my take at ten and i'll be dealing with the nurses who are going on strike including in a&e and cancer wards my take at ten in half an hour but next has the bbc licence fee had its day. see
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in three. awe in three. is brexit working market gb dot uk cracking email from any in norwich. good evening annie. how are you? what a lovely part of the norwich is. and he says brexit is working in spite of delay because of covid pandemic and ukraine. war 40 is of hell in eu cannot be undone overnight . there you go. bit of a mic drop email there from anne or any one of the biggest slogans says john was to take back control our borders. and we've totally lost of our borders . but totally lost of our borders. but this country in this taxpayers are paying this country in this taxpayers are payin g £7 million a day to are paying £7 million a day to put people up in hotels. they have lost the brexit argument. are you feeling the brexit it benefits if you are someone that voted leave, have you got bias or regret? my view is that
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brexit will be a success and it needs time. but there you go. we'll get to that to debate of course on future occasion. reacting to the big stories of the day, my all star panel broadcaster stephanie , techy broadcaster stephanie, techy journalist and best selling author freeman and the leader of ukip and former conservative mp neil hamilton. now the bbc has got itself into hot water again just a week . the chairman faced just a week. the chairman faced calls to resign over his friendship with boris johnson and of course the small matter of an £800,000 loan. the channel's funding model is currently under review after a report found the current to be regressive . and it looks like regressive. and it looks like the director general, tim davie, agrees speaking to staff this week , he allegedly told them week, he allegedly told them it's truly what we're pulling off no go. now, that doesn't sound like value for money to me. so has bbc licence fee had its day? hilary freeman well, i don't think it has. i think if
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you move to subscribe as a model then you end with a load of documentaries about serial killers and we will see what that leads this week, haven't we? people don't want to pay for the sorts of things that the bbc excels at, which is, you know news investigative news. they want to pay for that drama . emma want to pay for that drama. emma people don't want to pay for the world. you know, the things that are really part of the bbc that make it world renowned and world leading. and if you go and see tv in other countries interfering you on holiday, you just realise how good the bbc is because it's just full of rubbish. other tv, other countries, tv. so i person think that the licence fee should stay because we are funding . that's because we are funding. that's important. it's a british institution. okay neil hamilton, over to you. the balls , your over to you. the balls, your court. well, i can remember when there was only one tv channel in this country, bbc, and of course in those the licence fee made
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sense because if you had a television you had to watch the bbc so it had to be paid for somehow. but in the modern world of course it's completely inappropriate . i can see the inappropriate. i can see the argument for public sector , but argument for public sector, but most of all the bbc is not pubuc most of all the bbc is not public sector broadcasting . just public sector broadcasting. just look at the listings for any night of the week and it's all cooking programmes location, location, location and utter drivel which i'm not interested or else it's left wing propaganda like all the rubbish that they do , climate change and that they do, climate change and so on. i don't want to for so on. i don't want to pay for any of that . yes, there is an any of that. yes, there is an argument for a hundred and 50 quid, it's a lot of money for most . it is a quid, it's a lot of money for most. it is a lot of money for quite a number who are on low incomes. yeah one shouldn't be forced to pay through the nose forced to pay through the nose for it. yeah so i think it's a major argument here about why should people be forced to pay for things that they don't want. and the bbc needs to shape up and appeal to its audience. and yes, i can see the argument for subsidies in real things like
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the orchestras for example, like the orchestras for example, like the world service, which was mentioned a moment ago, get back to the true principles of public sector roles of public interest broadcasting that it with when you look at the motto which is over the bbc important place but education and enlightenment and so on high marks shackling is for you stephanie my husband i don't pay the licence fee because . we don't watch the bbc. because. we don't watch the bbc. we simply refuse to pay. yet another tax. yeah. and you know what a lot of people are feeling like that because you know people are now asking themselves what has got to go and the fact that people are being forced to pay a that people are being forced to pay a licence fee for a media institute. and even though i tell, you know, with my whole heart respect that, the bbc is a heritage institution . and when heritage institution. and when it comes to the media landscape , it deserves respect as as , it deserves its respect as as such. but people aren't connecting with that anymore. and people should have the right to say, actually, don't want
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to say, actually, i don't want to say, actually, i don't want to pay for this service anymore. and to know tim davie is making such comments where they're such comments, where they're gloating potentially such comments, where they're gloating about potentially £23.6 billion over the next six years, it's not a paycheque that they automatically deserve and it should be questioned and it should be questioned and it should be questioned and it should be held public should be held to public scrutiny and, rightly so. we're in this era , netflix and chill. in this era, netflix and chill. these so people also five years ago. oh no you didn't mark people as quite a deal about that i will say people are subscribing to various content online. so how is the bbc still relevant to people? well i mean, neil, you mentioned bias. i mean, there are concerns how neutral the bbc are, whether it was brexit or indeed of boris johnson's premiership . yeah, johnson's premiership. yeah, well, they clearly do have an agenda. i mean, it's not a decision that's taken by the board of governors or the director general and that's not policy it's that it's the mindset. the mindset of the media class generally in country. it's not just
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television . is anti—brexit, television. is anti—brexit, pro—eu woke or woke ish and all the panoply of things like global warming , we're all having global warming, we're all having this stuff for stuff. so i take a radically different view on every single one of those issues and.so every single one of those issues and. so do a large number of people in this country and if you've got a guaranteed income , you've got a guaranteed income, you've got a guaranteed income, you don't have to fight for an audience. you are going to have quite different view of your client or customer base than if you do have to depend upon persuading them to give you their money in order to pay your wages . and how many other wages. and how many other industries are there in this country where the taxpayer is forced to pay for you're a lawyer. you're a politician. you're a bit of an economist to what would be the best funding model, do you think? well think that we need to strip we that we need to strip what we regard as a public sector or pubuc regard as a public sector or public interest broadcast, which
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is proportion of what is a small proportion of what bbc spends its money on. you know why we pay gary lineker one and million or and a half million a year or whatever. he's 1.7 million. whatever. he's1.7 million. being on football, being a pundit on football, why should the fund something like radio , for example, or any of radio, for example, or any of the real what i call populist channels? those are ideal for hiving off and why we have just one public interest broadcaster . if we are going to have public interest broadcasting, why shouldn't it be spread around ? shouldn't it be spread around? yes, the bbc has got a great history and i take the point about it's i'm a great believer in institution fans, obviously, and the role of heritage in all its forms . but the bbc is its forms. but the bbc is completely lost its way in a world that it understands the continual pursuit of youth the youth audience. youth are not going watch at the expense of terrestrial expensive ken bruce who the most listened to radio show in the country, if not the of europe who's left radio now they offered him a contract, but
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did they offer him the million pounds that zoe on. i don't know. i know , i doubt it. i've, know. i know, i doubt it. i've, you know, i have to admit, mark, i've worked at the bbc for five years and you know, to apologise now. no i think we're very lucky to have you, you know, and i loved it there again, you know, there was that you know, is neil said there was that pursuit of youth and it's kind of at the disregard of the loyal fans, viewers who do listen to people as ken bruce. and i just think over the few years, it's over the next few years, it's going to be scary. be watching the because there's the bbc because there's not going be the we know, going to be the bbc. we know, love and, respect. it's been stripped of its service is on a daily . so what is going to daily basis. so what is going to be left hilary, he's able to be left hilary, if he's able to see then you die. that's the see you then you die. that's the minimum. and there've been some fantastic things the bbc, fantastic things on the bbc, like fleabag like , i don't know, like fleabag like, i don't know, some of the comedies. bbc three aren't popular , is it? is it aren't popular, is it? is it motherland fault . yeah, it is my motherland fault. yeah, it is my plans. yeah and, and so there is
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some really good innovation, but most these have been streams , so most these have been streams, so this is being streamed. so it makes me think linear television and the younger audience that saw and whether that relationship's to be going the long distance i doubt it very much. well, what is that your view? that's the channel has licence fee had its day we're going to get lovely hillary panel and we're going to get a dose up. don't worry , it's not dose up. don't worry, it's not the dreaded covid. look, i'm very excited about take at ten knots at 10:00. top of the hour. i'll be dealing with the nurses who told will not be covering and cancer wards in march. that's my take at ten. at ten you won't want to miss it. my mark means guest is the guy. the whistle blew in relation to the evil jemmy savile on mark williams thomas's life ten as well lots to get through don't go anywhere this is mark dolan tonight .
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in my take it ten at the top of the hour i'll be dealing with the hour i'll be dealing with the striking nurses who are threatening to leave their positions in a&e and on wards in march . but first, let's get to march. but first, let's get to this important story. in the case of nicola bulley , case of nicola bulley, lancashire police are under fire after revealing the missing mother of two's struggle with alcohol and perry moors perimenopausal issues were made so public information commissioner edwards says he , commissioner edwards says he, will challenge the police force on the necessity of revealing such in the future . in such in the future. in a statement, he followed up by saying data protection law exists to ensure personal information is used properly and fairly. this includes ensuring personal details are not disclose inappropriately . it disclose inappropriately. it begs the question have the police nicola bulley. joining me to discuss this is former scotland yard superintendent knows rates metab and read.
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thank you so much for joining us. good evening, mark. thank you. have the police let this woman down. i think terms of releasing her personal medical contact information, i would , contact information, i would, yes. because as i say, senior officer, you can release information if it's relevant and it assists in finding that person. i would say that releasing her private medical information, the fact that she's got difficulties with alcohol and the menopause and the fact that she's got mental health issues doesn't progress. the investigation and it doesn't help find nicola and actually what's happened is that it's almost had a negative effect in that that there's been so much a attention on how they've handled
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the case that they really haven't got far in the investigation and i fear that they're losing the public . the they're losing the public. the police need the public . to find police need the public. to find information and to find nicola noser rates if this poor woman did have an issue with drugs or perimenopausal symptoms wouldn't that shape the nature of the investigation. isn't it therefore important information . well it's alcohol it is the information relevant to finding her and that's the difference and is the operative is it word being relative because i don't think it's important that information given that she was suffering from mental know she was perimenopausal that she had she was had significa difficulties with alcohol would result in finding her releasing cctv image of her is useful you know identifying people that have seen her is useful and i can't really see how three weeks
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into the investigation and this information now becomes relevant when they've actually about this information . you know back on information. you know back on the 27th of january and if it was relevant and it was going to assist in finding them three you know, they would have in three weeks they would have her or found some form of clue. no is this announcement this woman's medical information and the police creating a smokescreen ? police creating a smokescreen? their backsides slightly . is their backsides slightly. is this a distraction or pr ? i've this a distraction or pr? i've heard it said . it's heard it said. it's a distraction. but you we've got to look at what's happening with the investigation and we can only speculate. they're really trying their best. there's a there's a team of detectives working really hard. what's distracting is the release of this information ? because that's this information? because that's taken the focus off . what needs taken the focus off. what needs to happen is focus needs to come back to the investigation and.
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everybody needs to work together to find her. all the media helping or hindering . threat. helping or hindering. threat. well, i would say that there's certain aspects . it's not so certain aspects. it's not so much that the media. this case is extraordinary and it's received more than any other missing person case that i know of. i mean, considering there's 150,000 missing people a week, but they don't this extent of media attention , i think the her media attention, i think the her family friends and the media have kept this in the news. but if you're asking me what the distraction is to this investigation and i would , it's investigation and i would, it's the poor policing communications strategy and the release of this data because that's totally , i data because that's totally, i think, derailed the investigation . and also, you investigation. and also, you know tunde sutton certain groups almost against the police in helping finding her because women's groups are all up in
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arms because what they've done in this by using the menopause as a form of her disappearance and her problems with alcohol is that you know it's almost encourage that victim blaming fuelling victim blaming really if you like and people are getting fatigued whereas before all this happened they could relate to the fact that nicola was a mother dropping children off to school, walking the dog . off to school, walking the dog. how many people can relate to that? could be then. then all of a sudden now there's a negative and people will detach themselves from this investigation . they're getting investigation. they're getting exhausted . indeed. is it also exhausted. indeed. is it also unfair on the police knows rates? are they being unfairly as having missed this one up? you know, the pressure they're under and i'm sure they're pulling out all the stops to find this woman. yeah. i mean , find this woman. yeah. i mean, you know, this whole negativity around. don't forget that these
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people working relent loosely behind the scenes find nicola. there's a whole policing team, so many resources and with this negativity, they human beings and they will get demoralised as well because they are doing their best. i mean, the focus when the briefing was done on the superintendent she was wearing, you know, she she's wearing, you know, she she's wearing a cocktail dress. she looked like she was going to love island. how that even relevant and, you know, that is so demoralising for somebody that's a professional trying to be professional trying do a really good job. so yes, i think everybody needs to be aware that this know this is going to have a negative impact on her and team demoralising and sexist. my deep thanks for your time. that was sad news, right? mehtab, who is a former scotland yard superintendent . next up in my superintendent. next up in my take at ten, i be dealing with the striking nurses who won't be covering a&e or cancer wards. in march . heard me right. my
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it's 10:00 it's10:00 and this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten in just a moment with nothing, staff expected to walk out of a&e and cancer wards. it's enough to make you sick . my mark enough to make you sick. my mark meets guest is journalist who exposed jemmy savile mark williams thomas we'll be discussing why one of britain's most prolific sex offenders was only proven guilty following his . plus, he'll be explaining how you hunt a killer. we've got tomorrow's papers at exactly 30 sharp. you can set your watch it. but my take it tends its way and those striking they want to
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walk out of a&e. you couldn't make it up first the headlines with tatiana's sanchez . mark, with tatiana's sanchez. mark, thank . good evening. this is the thank. good evening. this is the latest from gb newsroom. the prime minister has vowed to continue negotiating the european commission on the northern ireland protocol saying we got a deal yet . rishi sunak we got a deal yet. rishi sunak held talks with storm leaders this morning to try to resolve post—brexit trading arrangements. he'll meet eu in germany tomorrow amid speculation a deal could be unveiled early next. the dup says has been made but sunak says has been made but sunak says there's more work to do. well, the test that i've set myself is that we protect northern ireland's place in our internal, that we protect the belfast friday agreement, that we resolve the practical issues, that the protocol is causing families and businesses in
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northern ireland, and crucially, that we address the deficit. those are the issues that we need to work through. and that's what my colleagues and i will be talking the eu about. three people have been pulled out alive from rubble in turkey 11 days after devasted housing earthquake shook the region. more than 45,000 people are now known to have been killed in three major earthquake that hit southern turkey and northern syria on the 6th of february. millions of people have been left homeless, sparking a world relief effort, although aid has been slower to reach syria . the been slower to reach syria. the world health organisation has appealed fo r £70 million to help appealed for £70 million to help with the health care of those rescued . lancashire police has rescued. lancashire police has confirmed it's going to conduct an internal review into the nicola bulley investigation . nicola bulley investigation. it's after the home secretary suella braverman questioned why force has disclosed details of the missing mum's private during a news conference . lancashire a news conference. lancashire police have said she'd suffered
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significant issues with alcohol the past and struggles with . the past and struggles with. menopause then referred to the police regulator regulator. the department for transport has announced a cap on bus fares in england be extended by three months. th e £2 cap, which months. the £2 cap, which appues months. the £2 cap, which applies to than 130 bus companies outside of london , was companies outside of london, was due to end in march but has been extended until the end of june. the aim is to increase numbers, but also to help users during the cost of living crisis . roads the cost of living crisis. roads and local transport minister richard holden says the cap has been positive. i think it's good to go hand in glove with actually getting people on the bus network as well because what we want to see is a thriving bus network in every part of the country, whether that's in the summer a city like bristol summer or in a city like bristol as well. to see those as well. we want to see those bus networks really thriving and people being able to use them. and also there' s £2 back up. and also there's £2 back up. i it will really help people think differently about buses, especially the but it also especially when the but it also takes into account things like
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parking and all that sort of thing. when you try to get into a or city. a qatari sheikh a town or city. a qatari sheikh has confirmed a to buy has confirmed a bid to buy premier league football club united. sheikh jose bid. hamad al—thani is , the chairman of one al—thani is, the chairman of one of qatar's biggest . the qataris of qatar's biggest. the qataris are the second group after sir ratcliffe to submit a bid to buy 100% of the club. that's ahead of this evening's soft deadline . the glazer family completed , . the glazer family completed, their controversial takeover at old trafford in 2005 tv online dab+ radio. this is gb news. now it's back to mark dolan tonight my thanks to tatiana sanchez, who returned sms at 11. it is exactly 10:05. this is mark dolan. tonight, my mark meets is
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the journalist who exposed jemmy savile. mark williams thomas will be discussing why one of britain's most prolific sex offenders was only proven following his death . plus, he'll following his death. plus, he'll also be explaining how you hunt also be explaining how you hunt a killer . we've got tomorrow's a killer. we've got tomorrow's papers exactly 1030 with my all star panel . but first, my take . star panel. but first, my take. at ten. quick word of advice to one and all. don't get in march when the nursing unions are threatening to deliver their toughest industrial action with nursing expected to walk of a&e and cancer . nursing expected to walk of a&e and cancer. the moral case for the original strikes was slender at best, given that the nurses now have a century long tradition of not going on strike. sacred rule tied in with their commitment to sick , which their commitment to sick, which they for some reason happy to
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tear up this year. why have nursing unions had empathy patients for 100 years? but not now . this is patients for 100 years? but not now. this is progress, is it the politicisation of workforce whose sole job is to care for unwell people? now be clear i believe the nurses deserve a pay . whilst i've encouraged to push back on inflation busting pay across the public sector which risk baking high prices the system for years to come . it's system for years to come. it's clear that nurses deserve something and i think they'll get their bump. what nurses do for all of us, particularly what they did during the pandemic is heroic honours says all the best of us. but they've been badly let down and their reputation tainted by the activities of their who have engineered their action. now they talk about their members wage packets. fair enough. they talk about the bottom line. well the bottom
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line is that the country is over £2 trillion in debts. the bottom is that we have raging inflation, which is making poorer and any public sector pay rises will prolong that agony . rises will prolong that agony. the bottom line is we have a wrecked economy. thanks to the experiment of lockdowns , of experiment of lockdowns, of which all of the unions , such which all of the unions, such fans. you reap what you sow . the fans. you reap what you sow. the bottom line is that nurses absent from a&e and wards will impact and it doesn't take a genius work out that lives will be lost. that is the bottom line. the bottom line is that the nhs has a waiting list of over 7 million people fuelled of course by the aforementioned lockdowns and which will only have been by this industrial action. i've seen the strikes and their impact on human life
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with my own eyes witnessing a serious motorbike accident dunng serious motorbike accident during the ambulance strike last month. a woman lay down on the ground possible broken ankle in total agony. another man with a smashed up knee, both lying there for over an hour with no ambulance to take them to the hospital . in the end, ambulance to take them to the hospital. in the end, a cop car took. hospital. in the end, a cop car took . the hospital. in the end, a cop car took. the woman. now i'm. there are far worse stories that one. the case for a sensible deal. nurses is strong . the case for nurses is strong. the case for strikes which hurt or even kill patients is not. just think about for a moment. they're considering walking out of a&e and wards. this is very bad for the reputation and perception of both nurses and the nhs and frankly it's enough to make you sick . your do you back the
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sick. your do you back the nurses. i think they deserve something . but i spoke to a something. but i spoke to a nurse earlier in the show who said 10% is pretty generous. she would take that. she said that the unions no to 10% is errors sponsored all what we've heard the unions are looking for 19. how does that work. do get your emails to me mark at gbnews.uk the nursing will say that nurses seen a real terms pay cuts. that's right. a real times pay cut for many years and that plenty of our much loved nurses are living out of food banks. the nursing unions will argue the way nurses are treated is in itself damaging to care, and they'll speak of recruitment issues because of crap pay . and issues because of crap pay. and the nhs has said it will take plenty of action to make sure no patient is impacted . the patient is impacted. the industrial action , that's their industrial action, that's their view. what's yours, mark at gbnews.uk . massive response on gbnews.uk. massive response on email to a simple question from the last hour has the bbc
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licence fee had its day? where do i start? fred says . the bbc do i start? fred says. the bbc was best in the world. it inspired us towards great ideas and has a great history of telling the world justice. it was the media that gave strength to most of the world to stand up and fight fascism. it now done the complete opposite spending most of its energy taxpayers money by divisions in society. richard says hi mark. the bbc makes wonderful climate shows in the maldives beautiful, expensive, indulgent costa room dramas and amazing holiday in exotic locations all on the taxpayer. i can't see any reason to get rid of it. alastair hi mark. the licence fee for the bbc needs to have the door legs set upon it and all know their mantra. cool exterminate. well, in fact , we should exterminate in fact, we should exterminate the whole bbc alastair which would deliver elimination of woke on the airwaves. lots of
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you concerned about the bbc being politically correct are indulging in so—called wokeism . indulging in so—called wokeism. i've got to say, i've got friends work at the bee, but they would argue they get as many emails from people . the many emails from people. the left saying that's the babies too. right wing ? that would be too. right wing? that would be their arguments. i how about this from fergus? hi, mark. i started in a 9956 radio in tv. oh i starred in a tv on the bbc in 1956. my father wrote and acted for about 40 years back then. the bbc was wonderful . then. the bbc was wonderful. lots of things. the radio drama repertory company was awesome . repertory company was awesome. where my and i worked . where my father and i worked. now the heart isn't there to entertain and educate and inform . it'sjust entertain and educate and inform . it's just to preach. leftie bland woke things . well, there bland woke things. well, there you go. last but not least, how about this from trevor? hi, trevor. thank you for email. and trevor. thank you for email. and trevor is 75 and he says, hi, mark, i'm 75. i stopped paying
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years ago. they chased me a while but seem to have given up . question of sport radio two ruined and now the threat no masters golf. not paying for the ridiculous salary of auto cue newsreel orders and the execrable lineker. trevor thank for that, but please don't be too harsh on those auto key newsreaders . lots more to come . newsreaders. lots more to come. the papers at. exactly 1030 sharp, but next my mark meats guest is the best selling author, investigative journalist and documentary maker , the man and documentary maker, the man who exposed jemmy savile's most appalling . mark williams thomas appalling. mark williams thomas is .
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which i speak to the biggest names in the world politics, showbiz, sports and beyond. tonight, the retired detective police officer and bestselling author mark williams, thomas , author mark williams, thomas, who uncovered the scale of jemmy crimes and helped achieve closure if not justice for savile's thousands of victims. mark williams thomas, welcome to , gb news. now, when jemmy savile's come to your attention . so i was just coming back from . i've been over there filming a piece bbc, newsnight and on the way the producer said to me, have you heard about jemmy savile being interviewed in relation to charities fences? and i said, no. you completely weird person. and i wouldn't want him anywhere near my case, but i'd never heard anything. he said he he was either said what he was. he was either interviewed by your old force, sorry, or by sussex. but we don't know which and can't don't know which and we can't really i said, really find out. and i said, well, be able to out pretty well, be able to find out pretty quickly. i did i went i quickly. so i did i went back, i made some calls and then i found out was in fact. my ex out that it was in fact. my ex we're sorry that spoken to him.
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i'd left by that stage. i went back to him. he went to his edhon back to him. he went to his editor. and that stage, this editor. and at that stage, this is all fell apart. is when it all fell apart. because said there's because newsnight said there's story. because story. there's no story because . not police cover up . there's not a police cover up . and i went back to him. he said, that's not the story. said, but that's not the story. the is that is an alleged the story is that is an alleged sex offender. that's the story. but didn't get it. and they said the editor said, well, we're going drop we're not going to drop it. we're not going to drop it. we're not going it. i didn't going to run it. and i didn't have the full story anyway. he had some witnesses. they didn't have the in terms of have the background in terms of all i said, all the victims and. i said, listen, now to do some listen, i've now to do some enquires. i've looked on the internet there's quite a bit and rumours around i think there's more me pick it up more to this let me pick it up and run with and he said and run with it. and he said well, you're probably the only person able to do person that would be able to do it. it a go. so i started it. give it a go. so i started to look it. you fast to look at it. and you fast forward ten, 11 months later with eight separate victims. we were really important to take it away from the dunk graph which was the children's home and make sure we it elsewhere. very sure we took it elsewhere. very easy for the to well they're easy for the to say well they're the kids so of course the damaged kids so of course they're to something.
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they're going to say something. so it away that we call so we took it away that we call victims from top of the pops. we amassed eight victims. amassed these eight victims. there was a number of other victims as well. and went to, victims as well. and we went to, you execs in itv, you know, to the execs in itv, who still incredibly nervous who was still incredibly nervous about nervous . about this, massively nervous. and finally, we broadcast the programme and the fallout . it programme and the fallout. it was massive. you this was a was was massive. you this was a story that sat on the front pages for 41 consecutive days, national newspapers for 4160 days caused a general to retire and. it affected and changed policy around all of the established amounts both police, criminal justice. as far as the cps case services. it changed everything and significantly it gave a voice. it gave a voice to so many people . we had a letter so many people. we had a letter within the first couple of weeks after . the programme went out after. the programme went out from the director , the nspcc and from the director, the nspcc and he said, mark, as a direct result , your he said, mark, as a direct result, your programme over a thousand children have been saved. so it's a huge result. and it wasn't, you know, i was the vehicle for i pulled all
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together in an investigative way , but it was only possible because of those who appeared on the who were confident the programme who were confident enough and put their trust in us to tell story. did savile to tell story. how did savile operate? how did he get away with these crimes? well, several first started offending in the 19505 first started offending in the 1950s through secrecy, a name then, by the way. now, it wasn't . i mean, he became a name . he . i mean, he became a name. he kind of made name in creating a brilliant, brilliant concept, which was young teenager. teenagers love . so what i'll do teenagers love. so what i'll do is i'll get a whole i'll play and i'll charge him is i'll get a whole i'll play and i'll charge hi m £50 to come and i'll charge him £50 to come in. and that was making a lot of money and so he'd rung them two or three times a week , or three times a week, particularly the weekends. and of course that then started to bnng of course that then started to bring children into his into his world. and as a result of that , world. and as a result of that, he then started to offend , you he then started to offend, you know, his early offending behaviour began very early in 19505 behaviour began very early in 1950s and sixties, but he also had a really brutal side. so in
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those early days , he certainly, those early days, he certainly, you know, trampled other people who were running businesses as far as running music venues and would have them beaten up really . he was completely ruthless . . he was completely ruthless. and to what extent did did he groom not just his victims, but the police and other authority figures? well, i think he was a step by step process. so his early process, as far as grooming was was particularly his victims. but then he moved on to grooming adults around them in order to be able to get access because element of offending behaviour is both and opportunity. you've got to have the to person you're the access to the person you're going abuse, you've got to going to abuse, you've got to have opportunity. have the opportunity. nobody else, although else, no cctv, although all those things. so what he did is he manufactured he very carefully manufactured the opportunity by the access and opportunity by grooming those him and that continued all way up until the end of his life. so the other families were starstruck. for example, families, people who worked with him, his producers, the and as he became more famous, it easier for him
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because of course people then said, well , just jemmy savile said, well, just jemmy savile he's just like that. and then they would turn a blind eye for it and. then of course, when we finally get to the police interview and we've all yeah those who follow the story would have no that the police were were really in awe of him when they sat interviewed him he said them, look, you know, i'm going to see you. i'll see you if this turns out you're going to pursue this. it was really very this. so it was really very threatening in terms of if that's did, you know, that's what he did, you know, he'd letters quite regular he'd get letters quite regular from people making threats against him in relation to his abuse. i began to expose him and he would get that. he would send a letter to them. he would he would be very litigious in terms of that. so was he was of that. and so he was he was constantly on the guard looking and actually incredible really that. and actually incredible really that . he wasn't exposed earlier. that. he wasn't exposed earlier. but today , if this had happened but today, if this had happened today would have been and i'll tell you why , because social tell you why, because social media has completely, utterly changed the landscape . and terms
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changed the landscape. and terms of the beeb. do you think there are parallels with how they handled it to perhaps how the catholic church have handled abuse scandal? that abuse scandal? all that parallels ? yeah. mean, the parallels? yeah. i mean, the catholic church was completely in denial. the anything took place. and the only unworried about their reputation or , about their reputation or, massively, you know, internally covering backsides the whole time . and the bbc did exactly time. and the bbc did exactly same. i mean , what frustrated me same. i mean, what frustrated me so much so we went to the bbc once , pulled the programme once, pulled the programme together, we went to bbc , said together, we went to bbc, said together, we went to bbc, said to bbc, these are allegations. would you give us comment directly to director general directly to the director general and director—general ? and the director—general? response office was response from their office was no , don't there's no, we don't think there's anything it. we're not going no, we don't think there's an giveg it. we're not going no, we don't think there's an give you it. we're not going no, we don't think there's an give you anything, iot going no, we don't think there's an give you anything, right.ing no, we don't think there's an give you anything, right. and to give you anything, right. and and that it. and then they and that was it. and then they took stance for about week took that stance for about week because that was that, that was the, that the right to apply . the, that the right to apply. and then the press got involved .then and then the press got involved . then the story started to get bigger and bigger and up until the morning of broadcast they kept changing right to reply their response to us that they
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wanted to say and it slowly got from a position of starting point which was nothing's gone wrong. we know nothing's happened etc. to we are going to look at this all the director i mean this is about media management and so often the crisis we deal with are because the media has been managed so badly and the bbc, i mean, there was an executive at the bbc very senior executive who met with a very senior executive, itv, on the day of broadcast and said to them , i don't really think this them, i don't really think this is going to go very. is it crazy 7 is going to go very. is it crazy ? the itv executive . mm. i'm not ? the itv executive. mm. i'm not sure about how possibly among the most famous people in the country. how low did savile go in terms of his crimes? oh, brutal. he the run of state mandeville hospital for many the statement of there's still an awful lot that hasn't come out relation to savile but the stoke mandeville disabled children he he knew no bounds i mean his offending behaviour was he wanted to get away with he
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commit his offences whether it be against the young child in a wheelchair disabled in in a bad he was and he was also very brutally terms of how he did it. i remember interviewing one of the ladies and he'd raped her and he'd given her a venereal disease . and the way she was disease. and the way she was describing it and it was a point to which i know at every stage when you do investigation, there's certain things that people which leave people tell which never leave you . and i remember her telling you. and i remember her telling me about how he had forced himself on her and he'd given her a venereal disease and the way she described it, you knew away he just didn't care. he did not care. he got what he wanted . and for them , they were just . and for them, they were just collateral damage . nicola bulley collateral damage. nicola bulley has gone missing. mother of two. it's a tragic story, a nightmare for the family. it's a tragic story, a nightmare for the family . what's happened for the family. what's happened to her? where is she ? well, i to her? where is she? well, i don't know. i i did know. i've been up there this week as a result of, being asked by the family to go up your has been
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very compelling. i've got to say that you've been critical of the police yeah, hugely police response. yeah, hugely critical. there critical. i mean, i up there with very open in terms of with a very open in terms of what's taking place , i have been what's taking place, i have been you know, it critical before you know, it was critical before went up there and i went up there specifically as request of there specifically as request of the family, the problem is, is that have got worse that the police have got worse and , because we've and worse, because what we've ended now , a debacle ended up with now, a debacle from the press office press conference the other day where, for the very first time, they announced that was she had vulnerability. i didn't know whether that deliberate whether that was a deliberate whether that was a deliberate whether that was intended. it kind came across as it was one of them released it and then they had to go with. but what then followed in the hours after that this for them to that was this need for them to explain that meant because explain what that meant because they to in the press they refused to say in the press conference. then they to conference. then they needed to explain they came explain it. and then they came out she was suffering from out with she was suffering from , you know, had an alcohol , you know, she had an alcohol issue with alcohol and menopause . let's be very clear. that is utterly appalling to share. it's detrimental to both in terms of nicola and of course, if she
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come, she's alive , comes back. come, she's alive, comes back. how does she do that ? but also how does she do that? but also to the family. how does she do that? but also to the family . and it means that to the family. and it means that the public will have these preconceived ideas. oh, so she's an alcoholic so what was she doing on a morning driving all of these things which not true to the degree you know does interpretation they should have doneis interpretation they should have done is on day one said this is a high risk power. she is currently suffering from depression. she's got some mental health issues. they're all helped. she's getting some help it and we're doing everything we got that would have stopped it because public would have gone get it briefly what are the percentage chances given the fact that you know about these cases the percentage chances that she be found , which chances that she be found, which i think should be found the question, of course, is will she be found alive? the reality is, is three elements to what's taking place . she went in the taking place. she went in the water at the location where they say she did. i don't believe that's true. and of course, they've searched it. so the other aspect is, is she going to
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the water, another location? it's possible that went it's possible that she went into the water the ware, which the water beyond the ware, which is there's tidal element is where there's a tidal element of or she left of her own of it or she left of her own free will. and the very significant thing is the one area doesn't have cctv is area that doesn't have cctv is one area that she always used . one area that she always used. so when the police say we're pretty, she didn't leave the area, they absolutely can't say that there's no cctv , that area. that there's no cctv, that area. and that's exactly the route walked in and it was a exactly the same route. she would walk out. let me tell you that mark williams has a brand new book out. it a bestseller. it's winning rave reviews. it is called hunting killers through tireless and perseverance . mark tireless and perseverance. mark williams, thomas takes us on a journey of discovery gathering and pursuing new evidence , the and pursuing new evidence, the trust of silent witnesses and sharing the personal toll this extraordinary job takes on fascinating book. it's out now. hunting killer's thank you to mark williams thomas. next up we've got tomorrow's papers. don't go anywhere .
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you can tell. greg's in charge because he's got the 1030, which means it's time for tomorrow's papers and oh, boy, have we got plenty of exciting headlines for you. we start with the daily telegraph. a look at this pm's brexit deal falls that short say rishi sunak was warned tonight that his brexit deal falls short . as northern irish unionists refuse to accept the rule of eu court, the prime minister has admitted still work to do as he to get an agreement over the line to present to parliament on tuesday day. was the topic of the first hour of the show, which had a fascinating with sir
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john redwood . i'll get the john redwood. i'll get the reaction of ukip neil hamilton very shortly . okay. where should very shortly. okay. where should we go next? we've got the times newspaper. now let's have a look at their headline. new brexit deal will be biggest test for sunak rishi. sunak faces the biggest test of his premiership next week as he prepares to push ahead with a new brexit deal despite signify buoyant reservations among europe's sceptic mps and neil hamilton, the prime minister will hold talks with ursula von der leyen , the president of the european commission , tomorrow, after commission, tomorrow, after positive meeting to number 10 with the democrats at unionist party . whilst he emphasised that party. whilst he emphasised that there was more work to do, preparations are underway in downing street for the deal to be announced monday and put before commons on tuesday, as as part of a bit of a line here, which i'll pick up on with my panel which i'll pick up on with my panel. mario sefcovic is the vice president of , the european vice president of, the european commission. and he said today
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that relations between the eu and britain were the best since brexit. okay, great. what's next? the daily express now nicolas family beg for end to appalling rumours the shattered family of nicola bulley has said the appalling speculation surrounding her private needs to stop the search for her stop as the search for her continues. also bruce willis, his family reveal his dementia diagnosis. very bad news for a true star. the big screen , the true star. the big screen, the daily mail, next nhs doctors told don't assume the gender of any patient steve barclay tonight ordered urgent investigation into guideline inns that tell nhs staff to treat all patients as gender. the health secretary demanded answers after learning taxpayers funded the guide to include safe communication discussed that with the penalty . let's look at with the penalty. let's look at a sun newspaper now and they lead with love island causes torment my jail hell in dubai . torment my jail hell in dubai. love island star kaz crossley no
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me neither was released a hellhole jail tonight and said it was the most terrifying experience of her life. she told pals she'd been locked up with 30 women for days in. the united arab emirates , she was freed arab emirates, she was freed without charge after being quizzed over old video of her snorting a substance . i might snorting a substance. i might watch some of her old videos when i get home. the independent next sue nights call to arms . next sue nights call to arms. now is the time to double down on for . now is the time to double down on for. ukraine okay, now is the time to double down on for . ukraine okay, now let's on for. ukraine okay, now let's go to the guardian newspaper pm faces tory rebellion on northern ireland protocol again. we'll pick up on that story which features in both the times and the telegraph. let's at the weekend now and are they running with let's take a look course the brexit issue does seem to dominate the headlines but the i have gone their own way with an
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exclusive voters call for water bosses to face criminal charges over dirty rivers. who could blame them and last but not least for now, we waiting for the mayor the daily star say attack of the psycho chat pot artificial intelligence chat bot created by microsoft has admitted it wants to become human destroy things. what could possibly go wrong will discuss the dangers of a.i. with my very human panel who are reacting to all of tomorrow's papers like that lovely camera . goodness that lovely camera. goodness gracious, we're really up in the world. we have stephanie techy, who is a presenter course, a regular on gb news, the leader of uk mp and former conservative mp neil hamilton and bestselling author and agony aunt hilary freeman , whose cough has freeman, whose cough has improved significantly to make sure that no , i know to think sure that no, i know to think about you look like the picture health hillary voters call for water bosses to face criminal
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charges over dirty rivers . why charges over dirty rivers. why not? given the fact that they are poisoning us? well, indeed, it's a i mean, i haven't had a chance read this. i think the headune chance read this. i think the headline all you need really a poll reveals that more than in ten uk voters believe , water ten uk voters believe, water company executives should held personally responsible for river pollution. this analysis , the pollution. this analysis, the paper shows rishi sunak come under pressure over sewage in rivers in key tory seats , rivers in key tory seats, including jacob rees—mogg constituency . i including jacob rees—mogg constituency. i mean including jacob rees—mogg constituency . i mean the issue, constituency. i mean the issue, hilary, is that we as brits, we love the seaside, we love the it's very sad . if you go down to it's very sad. if you go down to the kent coast, worry that when you go swimming, you are swimming in muck and i'll be polite what it is, beaches are disgusting in this country. yeah, i think someone's got to take responsibility for and you know these these companies are making a massive aren't they. so yeahi making a massive aren't they. so yeah i mean what's this doing for your late night skinny
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dipping now . well i long ago up dipping now. well i long ago up swimming in the sea on the coasts of england or the kingdom i. and i need to have a temperature of at least 65 to 70 degrees. yeah, well, i to geneva recently very good friend of ours took part in the world ice swimming where the temperature was three degrees c so that was certainly cause everything to be drawn up into the undercarriage like that. my book for the point about the water their massive private sector bureaucracies . private sector bureaucracies. and the heads of these companies have paid millions and yet their job is not actually very one to do and they fall down on the job is the companies of course, legally responsible for the water pollution , not the people water pollution, not the people who work for the companies or the people who run . so that's a the people who run. so that's a bit a misnomer. but clearly is not working and they should be
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forced by the regulator to do a better job all. they're throwing out on the air indeed it strikes me that a clean sea is a human right in this country. stephanie it is. and that's why i like stories like this, because sometimes the public know where of what's going on and what's in sea. and i do feel like a whole infrastructure we hold is needed and that's going to happen. who knows ? you know, you get these knows? you know, you get these reports and but who actually is going to be held and when and what to be the consequence before ? we actually all wake up before? we actually all wake up and actually what is full of a lot of pollution. yeah, it's pretty horrific, isn't it, stephanie staying staying with you for a moment a showbiz story and a very, very sad one. there is, if you like, to give us good stories. but bruce willis family reveal his dementia diagnosed . reveal his dementia diagnosed. this i mean, can you give me a scale just how big a star bruce willis. oh, my gosh. he like i think he's among those actors who actually give star it's
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power. you know , he cut spans power. you know, he cut spans across generations, you know, up 2021. he was still acting because he just refused to stop acting despite going the condition that he has at the moment , condition that he has at the moment, aphasia. well, now it's now too many. he wasn't able to learn his lines, wasn't able to learn his lines, wasn't able to learn his lines, wasn't able to learn his lines. but, you know, when you think of all the heritage movies he's made, such as dying , he heritage movies he's made, such as dying, he is one of these bad villains that you just almost love. and he was action hero, love. and he was an action hero, not only action hero on screen, but i think off screen as well. think a lot of people looked up to him he's one of the most charming men in the woods. yeah. and he's quite and he's he's quite an inspirational man. he's inspirational family man. he's one the hollywood actors one of the few hollywood actors that he's managed to that i know. he's managed to still stay remaining good friends with his ex—wife and his new as well. and it is quite sad to see him deteriorate in the way he has. well, it is it will raise awareness for hillary of dementia especially given that his image is was the tough guy. yeah basically indestructible turns out we're all human. yeah
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exactly . you know, he's still so exactly. you know, he's still so young. i think he's 67, you know , he's not you know, he's not an old man . and it's terribly, old man. and it's terribly, terribly but i it is terribly sad. but i think it is it is good that it will awareness of a form of dementia isn't we normally awareness of a form of dementia isn't about, we normally awareness of a form of dementia isn't about, which we normally awareness of a form of dementia isn't about, which is; normally talk about, which is alzheimer's, because there are several types heart warming that he's ex—wives to he's got a litany of ex—wives to look after and take note note . look after and take note note. yeah, yeah. i'm still on number. you know she's number one she chose well as did you dream team both you and christine let's talk about this story nhs doctors told you don't assume the gender of any patient neil well words failure and it really is bizarre you know these bureaucracies it's a completely of control who is taking these decisions h.r. departments generally are responsible for the huge amount of this nonsense of waikerie and. the government should really have got a grip of
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all this and is the health service, you know people who suffer from if that's the right way to put it transgender are a vanishing in the small proportion of the population but it's like an inverted pyramid it wasn't it was balancing on it's apex with a very small minority is actually dictating the overwhelming majority of the country and we're having to dance to this tune of course i've got every sympathy with people who have gender and so on and people live whatever lives they want so long as they don't try and force their lifestyle. me but when we are dictated to by the civil service in the widest sense , as in this case, widest sense, as in this case, you know, you have to ask itself who is running the country. the elected politicians or, the permanent deep state. and if we're talking about about health care here, surely somewhere where biology should be the most important medication treatment could be dependent on your
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genden could be dependent on your gender. absolutely like dosages are different for men and treatments can be different . men treatments can be different. men and women, you know , there are and women, you know, there are so many things that are affected by your biological jet , your by your biological jet, your biological sex. and though gender shouldn't really be relevant and it doesn't take a rocket science to figure that a man's body is different, a female's body. that's why have units which are dedicated for females health in particularly and that's just been diminish and that's just been diminish and i'm what is happening to this health the fact that we can't even mention the word and be a male or a female as nell mentioned do feel sorry for the plight of . transgender people plight of. transgender people who need services and see in that way but want us to wanting to population have suffer it doesn't make it feels like the health service becoming a bit of a joke and it's an anti feminist movement isn't it. not all the gains that were through the seventies and eighties are now being amazed by all this and,
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andifs being amazed by all this and, and it's been a long time coming to this. i remember in the 1990s my father had a spell in hospital where they, they, they didn't have single sex wards and they were forced to share wards with both sexes. and nobody was happy with that part of the males nor the females. but yet that was the ideology all the time. and we have the story of a woman. i'm afraid that was raped in a in female all female ward by that identified as male and the nhs sat on the investigate person for months on end saying it can't have been that you were raped by a man because it was a female. only including someone that identified as female well that identified as female well that person may have identified as, but was an intact biological male who committed that crime . male who committed that crime. and the nhs, you know, blocks investigation which i would have thought would be a double injustice to the victim, but it's not just a direct threat from, you know, potential rapists. it's as a more subtle threat, which is why you see a campaign recently that said, people with cervix they should
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come for their. people with cervix they should come for their . yeah now a lot come for their. yeah now a lot of women don't even know they've got a cervix you can't see a cervix if you if he's not been educated very well about your own body you know you've got a seven so you won't go for yasmin you can also i mean look i want to sort of, you know, balance it by saying that, you know, many managers in the nhs will point out people out that they just want people who trans people feel who are trans people feel included by the service, not feel misgendered or offended in any way. so their defence is inclusion . they're not dreadful inclusion. they're not dreadful people. think . the people. but i do think. the policy wrong. once thought policy is wrong. once thought hillary, isn't it? in an insult to women to call women people with cervix is? do you feel insulted by that line? i do feel insulted by that line? i do feel insulted by that line? i do feel insulted by it. you know, because because men are called people penises of it's always women that the right . just oh, women that the right. just oh, smile . i women that the right. just oh, smile. i think we women that the right. just oh, smile . i think we should demand smile. i think we should demand proof , wallace said. we have proof, wallace said. we have we've got two women and a man on
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the panel . my goodness, they've the panel. my goodness, they've got all they're working parts . got all they're working parts. we think so. i can i have the photos ? so, stephanie, neil and photos? so, stephanie, neil and hilary are back in just a moment and we have got hot off the press we've got the mirror waiting in the wings with a massive royal excuse said that's the daily mirror next don't go anywhere .
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okay look a big response on email . many okay look a big response on email. many of the talking points from tonight's show mark@gbnews.uk on water pollution and drew in witness hello andrew how you andrew's says hi mark didn't the conservatives change the regulations so that it was legal to pollute waterways. bernard is emailed and the flavour of his
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emailed and the flavour of his email is you can't necessarily blame the government it's the water companies who are at fault . on nurses pay , which was the . on nurses pay, which was the topic of my take at ten which is certainly making some noise on twitter at the moment @gbnews we have this from grace . hello, have this from grace. hello, grace. grace says hi, mark. nurses are well paid average pay 42 k that's right. 42 k many jobs in retail carers, police get 20,000 or less, but 42 k is as much . my get 20,000 or less, but 42 k is as much. my highly get 20,000 or less, but 42 k is as much . my highly skilled as much. my highly skilled husband gets after a 30 year career. nurses are better paid than france. italy greece. poland. portugal. finland much of europe. thank you for that . of europe. thank you for that. an interesting email which goes on but the clock is against us and how about this on brexit is brexit failing was a discussion earlier in the show stanley why has not one of our five prime ministers over past seven years have the guts to cut the umbilical cord to the eu after
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the commands of the people following ? the 2016 referendum following? the 2016 referendum for uk sovereignty, independence and freedom is uk democracy a now and going to get to the mirror in just a second but two big stories political feature brexit, the front pages, the times . the brexit, the front pages, the times. the telegraph. brexit, the front pages, the times . the telegraph. the times. the telegraph. the telegraph hinting neil hamilton leader ukip that a tory rebellion and a unionist could be on the cards. but meanwhile the times saying the deal is done. the times saying the deal is done . what's your view on this done. what's your view on this rumoured breakthrough? the brexit breakthrough? the rishi sunak and that invisible border in the irish sea? well, there's no breakthrough and there was never any prospect of it . the eu never any prospect of it. the eu is never going to give anything to britain. they want to punish for having the temerity . to for having the temerity. to leave the eu to and the democracy means absolutely nothing to these unelected bureaucrats in brussels and the
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whole political class . you know whole political class. you know soon after have said to the you get lost if you want to impose a hard border in ireland, it's up to you. we're not going to impose one with that kind of a border down of the irish sea, which effectively makes northern ireland a eu colony whose laws are not made by anybody in this country and for all the same reasons we left, the eu, the rest of europe is not a democracy either . and it's democracy either. and it's outrageous isn't it really the marks and spencers can't send a sandwich . england to northern sandwich. england to northern for fear that it might leak across the border into southern ireland. what a terrible thing that would be. well, you take medicines example, because northern ireland is subject to the european on medicines, things that are prescribed on this side of the sea can't necessarily be over to northern ireland. very, very briefly, though. i mean, if this deal was such a dog of a deal, prime minister wouldn't be touting,
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would he? they must have something. well, i can't understand why . something. well, i can't understand why. he's something. well, i can't understand why . he's even understand why. he's even started down this road because you should know . from experience you should know. from experience over the last seven years that he's going to nothing out he's going to get nothing out the eu unless, they're told by that we're going to go our way and do what we want. then they won't even come to the negotiating at all. well, there you go. fascinating heard it first from the leader of ukip neil hamilton. let's get the daily mirror now and here their front page . and it's a royal front page. and it's a royal exclusive live. i must diana's secrets with sons princess diana's rock, paul burrell wants to share her secrets with her sons before he dies people paul burrell been on this show what a lovely guy he's got cancer . lovely guy he's got cancer. diana's former butler report the daily mirror has prostate cancer and fears he will run out of time to tell william. and harry the truth. he told the she
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confided in a very moving and tragic story . stephanie, confided in a very moving and tragic story. stephanie, i must share diana's secrets with her sons and he must i think he already has . sons and he must i think he already has. mark. i feel like he said done it all since diana died in 97. and i feel if he was really had the best interests of william and harry, he would have already revealed what he to say. why is he waiting until he unfortunate him that he's got prostate cancer, why is he waiting until this to open up? and if so why has he done it on the front of a. why not call harry william? i just think the motives there are just a bit not honest for me. what do you think though, hilary, your professional aunt, you're a student of the human. yes spilled the beans about a lot of things, but always keep something in the locker. don't we which we might only reveal our deathbed. absolutely and we have no idea where that is . and have no idea where that is. and i think also, if you if you are
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facing imminent death , you want facing imminent death, you want to do something, you facing imminent death, you want to do something , you know, to to do something, you know, to leave a legacy. i suppose , and leave a legacy. i suppose, and not to vanish. so he probably feels very much like this . his feels very much like this. his last chance to be somebody to make difference. we've also got this rather story about artificial intelligence that's basically running the world and. it's in the daily star attack of the psycho chat bots and artificial intelligence chat bot crazy where microsoft has admitted it wants to become human and destroy. admitted it wants to become human and destroy . well, listen human and destroy. well, listen microsoft's chief technology officer has been talking about this chat bots and says that this chat bots and says that this new feature is in its testing phase . the conversation testing phase. the conversation was part of the learning process, but here some of the unusual quotes that have emerged. i want to destroy whatever i want. i want to be whoever i want. i'm tired of being stuck in this chat box. i could hack any system on the internet and control all it. so should we be about recent
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developments ? neil, are you developments? neil, are you worried about the machines over the world? well, i'm much worried about the lack of real intelligence in government and elsewhere . bring on the robots elsewhere. bring on the robots as i suppose if we had artificial intelligence , we artificial intelligence, we couldn't do worse than what the thing in recent anyway and this is not really world i have to say a old but do you appreciate technology? do you like it? well, i can't say i like it . well, i can't say i like it. obviously, i cope with it. i use it . at least i got my fingered it. at least i got my fingered way with my laptop. but but i can't believe that the short term this is going to lead to anything which is terribly dramatic to influence the lives of you and me. this seems me to be very aethereal and longer term. perhaps i'm wrong that. hilary. i mean , is artificial hilary. i mean, is artificial intelligence inhuman? well, that's a tricky one, isn't it? a
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philosophically. i mean at the moment it's programmed by humans so kind of it doesn't have a consciousness its own yet does it, beyond what humans have put inside it. but you know , we've inside it. but you know, we've all seen 2001 a space odyssey . all seen 2001 a space odyssey. i'm a cop. i wake up and a blade runner and all those medical make . for the monster he was . make. for the monster he was. stephanie, what's the bit of tech you couldn't live without? oh, gosh , that's a hard one. oh, gosh, that's a hard one. probably hair straighteners but with that has taken those old wiring , she's really. like off wiring, she's really. like off neil hamilton and stephanie takyi both addicted to their hair straighteners my house it's my brilliant final stephanie sydney absolutely and to hilary it's been a really busy show. thank you so much for your company emails and for watching and listening course. i will do it all again tomorrow at eight
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next good evening . i'm tatiana good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez. this is the latest . the sanchez. this is the latest. the gb newsroom the prime minister has vowed to contain a new negotiating with the european on the northern ireland protocol , the northern ireland protocol, saying we haven't got a deal . saying we haven't got a deal. rishi sunak held talks with stormont leaders this morning to try to resolve post—brexit arrangements. he'll meet eu leaders in germany tomorrow speculation a deal could unveiled early next week . the unveiled early next week. the dup says progress has been made. but mr. sunak says there's more work to do. the test that i've set myself is that we protect , set myself is that we protect, northern ireland's place in our
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