channel good. it channel good.|tis channel good. it is 2 pm. that means it's good. it is 2 pm. that means wsfime good. it is 2 pm. that means it's time for real britain with me. emily carver. it's time for real britain with me. emily carver . your tv online me. emily carver. your tv online and digital radio. now we've got and digital radio. now we've got a big show for you today. it's over three weeks since nicola barley mysteriously disappeared . lancashire police have of course, come under intense

criticism. not least the way they've communicated sensitive information. i'll be getting the views . two experts on that and views. two experts on that and whether the public are right to be losing trust in the police force. also only really being outdone by the french believe or not, they're reportedly getting more bang for their buck when it comes to their military spending and the number of people arriving in this country by small boat is already 86% higher than it was this last year. i'll be getting the of my political panel on that one. all of that to come. but first, let's get the news with our own armstrong armstrong . good afternoon. is armstrong. good afternoon. is just 2:00. i'm karen armstrong in gb newsroom. the prime minister has urged world leaders to double down on military support for ukraine and the west responds . russian aggression responds. russian aggression hasn't been enough. addressing munich security conference , munich security conference, rishi sunak said the uk will be the first country to provide longer range to ukraine and he

encouraged to provide the most advanced air defence systems. he told western leaders nato's standard capabilities are needed to the kremlin's attack and moscow must be held accountable for crimes against humanity. what's at stake in this war is even than the security and sovereignty of one nation. it's about the security and sovereignty of every nation . sovereignty of every nation. because russia's it's abhorrent war and irresponsible nuclear rhetoric are symptomatic of a broader threat to everything. we in. the prime minister also addressed reports a deal with the eu over the northern ireland protocol could be imminent. rishi sunak. he was greeted by the chancellor at the summit. olaf scholz said both parties understand what needs to be done to solve post—brexit trade problems. but no has been agreed yet . he's expected to hold talks

yet. he's expected to hold talks with the president of the european commission , ursula von european commission, ursula von der leyen, this afternoon . i'm der leyen, this afternoon. i'm working very hard together with my ministerial colleagues, foreign secretaries , the foreign secretaries, the audience, secretary of state for northern ireland. we are working very closely. we're engaging in those with the european union next week potential all the time. and we have for a while. but what i'd say is there is still work to do. i think there is still work to do. there are challenges to work through. we have not all of these issues. no, there there isn't no, there isn't. there isn't a deal has been done . body of deal that has been done. body of former premier league football footballer christian atsu been recovered in turkey. his agent confirmed the ghanaian who played for newcastle, chelsea and everton was found under the rubble of his almost two weeks after the earthquakes. more than 45,000 people have been killed in turkey and syria . rescue in turkey and syria. rescue efforts continue though, this morning a child was among three people saved. 296 hours after the first quake struck , one of

the first quake struck, one of the first quake struck, one of the uk's richest people search . the uk's richest people search. ratcliffe has confirmed his company ineos has joined the race to buy manchester. he is competing sheikh jassim bin hamad , the chairman of one of hamad, the chairman of one of qatar's biggest banks, to acquire the club from the glazer family. sirjim says he wants to family. sir jim says he wants to make manchester united the number one club in the world again . railway engineering again. railway engineering workers are planning to walk out next month in a dispute over pay- next month in a dispute over pay. members of the rmt union at balfour beatty hold 348 hour strikes on thursday 10th and 17th of march. they rejected the company's offer of a 5.5% increase in pay pay , which would increase in pay pay, which would have been backdated to april last year . have been backdated to april last year. meanwhile, unions representing of university staff have called off seven days of strike action the next two weeks, issuing a joint statement. they said an agreement has been reached on pay agreement has been reached on pay and pensions with a final pay pay and pensions with a final pay offer of five and 8% from

august. however the five plan strikes in mid—march over grading and 0 hours contract cuts will still go ahead . south cuts will still go ahead. south korea has condemned the north for firing a ballistic missile , for firing a ballistic missile, describing the move as a clear breach of un resolutions. pyongyang launched a missile into the sea its east coast this morning . the us and korea are morning. the us and korea are preparing for annual military drills and north korea fired an unprecedented number of missiles yean unprecedented number of missiles year, including those with the ability to strike anywhere in the united states within almost 2000 homes in aberdeen are still without power after storm otto strong . winds caused blackouts strong. winds caused blackouts across both scotland and northern england . most northern england. most properties have now been reconnected to the grid. scottish and southern electricity networks says it sent food vans to affected areas and it hopes all power will restored by the end of the day . restored by the end of the day. this is gb news. we'll bring you

as it happens. but now it's back to family . to family. by to family. by now, you've probably all south park's animated roasting of prince harry and meghan's son called it brutal. others are calling it genius. i think you can guess where i stand. but what's beautiful about the whole thing is that i think the pair clearly thought they'd be the next obamas. i reckon they thought, well, if britain is fed up america lap us up . up with america will lap us up. but from where i'm standing, they're just the less likeable version . the kardashians. and version of. the kardashians. and it's not me saying this. polling from redfield and wilton shows americans have have also had quite enough of the vacuous duo since december , meghan's since december, meghan's popularity plummeted . a popularity has plummeted. a massive 36 points. prince harry's is down a staggering 45 points. put simply , they're not points. put simply, they're not doing well on either side . the

doing well on either side. the atlantic. and as harry's words, he had to flee the uk . he he had to flee the uk. he fearing for his family's safety as if britain was some kind of war zone and he and his wife are persecuted minority instead of counting blessings and pursuing something meaningful. what did they do.7 netflix something meaningful. what did they do? netflix book launches late night shows, you name it. they've done all while demanding their privacy. naturally now, if you ask me, this is one of the most privileged couples in the world, but showed no shame at all in presenting as victims. victims of the monarchy, victims of the tabloid press that they're happy to endlessly feed. of even victims of of course, and even victims of brexit me , they really do brexit to me, they really do reflect the worst of our culture , a culture that says no matter how lucky you are, no matter how many no matter what many you have, no matter what platform handed, you can still be a victim . if you know the be a victim. if you know the right buzzwords . but i sense a right buzzwords. but i sense a change may be afoot . virtue change may be afoot. virtue signalling latching onto the signalling and latching onto the latest progressive causes only go so far until people suss you out. we've seen how nicola sturgeon was skewered by

pandenng sturgeon was skewered by pandering to progressive wukari before her new zealand's be kind. jacinda to order and threw in the towel after polls showed she on her out. watching the she was on her out. watching the south park mockery, i imagine prince harry and meghan too fuming. dare they make fun fuming. how dare they make fun of us? why can't they see how wonderful we are? how can they not we are the hard not see that we are the hard done here? well, it done by ones here? well, it turns that both the british turns out that both the british people and americans are a little than that. and the chickens are coming to chickens are coming home to roost roost . all right. that's roost roost. all right. that's my view on prince harry and meghan. please do let me know what you think. please be. commentator later to get his reaction on that south park mockery . anyway, here's what's mockery. anyway, here's what's coming up on the show this hour. lancashire police has offered an explanation . the home office and explanation. the home office and referred itself to police watchdog following the disclosure. nicola bulley had a power struggle . alcohol and power struggle. alcohol and perimenopause . most police perimenopause. most police relatives asked the public to end the appalling levels of

speculation and rumours about her private life. i'll be asking, do you still faith in the police and the international institute for strategic studies? think tank has warned that britain risks falling behind as nato's foremost power in europe. should whitehall increase defence spending or risk the uk becoming outgunned by our next war neighbour? then later on in the show the number of migrants arriving the uk via small boat crossings over the channel has risen a whopping 86% compared to last year's figures . the times last year's figures. the times are also reporting and i'll also be joined by my political panel to discuss what the uk's next steps should be in discouraging these illegal crossings. that's what we're talking about for the next hour. as always, i'd love to know your thoughts on today's topics. please do tweet me at gb news or you can email me on gb views at. you can also watch us onune views at. you can also watch us online on youtube . stay tuned .

online on youtube. stay tuned. right. well already tainted image of britain's police took a further hit this week after lancashire police were heavily , lancashire police were heavily, wrongly or rightly for their decision to disclose details of nicola bulley private life, including that she suffered from alcoholism in the months leading up to her, disappeared rants. however, there has been some positive news for the police. it was revealed this week also that the met's counter—terror unit has foiled eight late stage school terror over the last year . but with all the scandals that have hit over the last year, do you still faith in the police . you still faith in the police. are we right to have lost a bit of faith in the police? or should we get behind them? because after all, they are the ones that solve the crimes, that raise the protests against the police has just started outside scotland yard today. actually cop watch network says they are protesting the protesting against the institution protects and institution that protects and produces rapists as david carrick and wayne cousins. it's all painted a pretty bleak picture. our national reporter

theo chikomba is outside new scotland yard for us now. what's going on over there ? well, just going on over there? well, just few moments ago, protesters have just arrived. you probably see them just over my left shoulder. there are a number of them who are here raising those questions, which we have just mentioned there. it's not just met police. it's police forces . met police. it's police forces. the country have had their fair share of challenges and they are trying to get those officers out of the force who are abusing their roles and doing the public say is not acceptable in such a high profile and one that's important to communities across the country, specifically here in london, we heard from the met commissioner who took from dame cressida dick just a few weeks ago. he was speaking at the assembly of the police. he was saying during that committee meeting, prepare for more painful stories as the force confronts the issues that faces. and he went on to say , there's a

and he went on to say, there's a trickle of them and more are going to be surfacing over the next couple of weeks and months as . the met attempts to get of as. the met attempts to get of some of those people who are in the met at the moment. and he went on to say, we haven't appued went on to say, we haven't applied the same sense of ruthlessness to guarding our own integrity we routinely integrity and we have routinely appued integrity and we have routinely applied confronting criminals applied to confronting criminals . and i'm deeply sorry for that. so that's why these protesters are here saying the police need to answer many of their questions for safer police force within the country. thank you very indeed there. that was the national reporter outside scotland yard. it seems things are heating up to give their thoughts on this. i've got former detective peter baxley in the studio with and also the conservative police crime commissioner for hampshire , commissioner for hampshire, donna jones. thank you very much both joining me. peter, i'll get thoughts first really just on what you've seen there with theo outside scotland yard, there is anger brewing against the police in terms of david carrick, wayne cousins, it seems to be scandal

after scandal, cousins, it seems to be scandal after scandal , the anger, the after scandal, the anger, the lack of comfort and the lack of trust in british policing spreads far, far further than just the pavements outside new scotland yard. and it's no surprise to me and millions of others, i'm we have had a of utterly scandal scandal and yet again yesterday another officer appearing in charged with rape another sexually related offences . when is it ever going offences. when is it ever going to stop. i fear it's going to be a long time before it does. but really dramatic , radical things really dramatic, radical things have to be done or else the model of policing by consent is truly at risk. donna, do you accept the pretty bleak picture that that peter has painted ? that that peter has painted? yeah, i accept that the trust and confidence in policing across the country has taken a massive blow, particularly over the last two years. the me too movement victims coming forward

, historic offences being reported , police officers, all reported, police officers, all the same as many other across the same as many other across the country . they are given this the country. they are given this very special protective position that they carry a warrant card . that they carry a warrant card. now we know that we are always going to have bad people, whether it's in journalism, whether it's in journalism, whether it's in medicine, whether it's in medicine, whether it's in policing . the whether it's in policing. the differences about how police force or how a hospital or how how a news agency deals with those complaints and those issues, they come in. the met got wrong. they knew, for example , there was stuff going example, there was stuff going on him for a number of two decades. he was able to abuse his position. so i don't think police forces should be judged about the bad people they have in them. what they should be judged is about how they deal with them when become aware of them. met got wrong. them. and the met got wrong. peter of course, the big story this week has been the nicola bulley story, mysterious case been three weeks or more now since she disappeared . there has since she disappeared. there has been huge amounts of criticism

levelled at lancashire police and i can't help but that some of it isn't fair in terms of revealing details. apparently they did have the say so from they did have the say so from the family. apparently were also reports that people selling or willing to sell stories about this woman has disappeared. so sometimes the police seem to get abuse when perhaps they don't deserve . what do you think? deserve. what do you think? lancashire police's handling of the information flow. their communique , patience with the communique, patience with the media and then in turn the pubuc media and then in turn the public has been absolutely catastrophic. it's been appalling and actually the words alcohol and perimenopause have been used as of become a distraction from what real issue is here and what lancashire police have done and maybe what they've tried to avoid. nicholas to do is actually suppress the truth and that's a very scary matter. they've only released when they've been backed a

corner because of the nationwide media and huge public interest, but nobody within lancashire police in terms the communications has had the ability to look around the corner to anticipate what might be coming the line and essentially the very start tell the truth . if when nicola went the truth. if when nicola went missing on the first day or the second day very early on, they said this is a vulnerable woman with mental health issues , both with mental health issues, both of which matters would been factually correct that would have quite possibly stopped any further , more invasive details further, more invasive details having to be released. and of would have been truthful , not to would have been truthful, not to mention the fact, of course that lancashire police chose not to release the details of their visit to nicola's house on the 10th of january. that's the matter that's been reported to the ipc, ipc and once again, we've got police behaving . but we've got police behaving. but donna, do you think they could have anticipated that particular

case would have had this much media and public interest? because, of course , i think it's because, of course, i think it's hundreds of thousands of people go missing this country every. do you think perhaps they were simply overwhelmed ? to put it simply overwhelmed? to put it kindly? of course, they're not here to give their case. it feels to me like the media is being handled by several different people and there's not been a consensus flow here , as been a consensus flow here, as you've just quite rightly said, hundreds of thousands of people go missing every year. and if this had been a lady called nicola bulley, has gone nicola bulley, she has gone missing today you in this missing today. you know, in this particular near the river. particular area near the river. and people to be and we're asking people to be vigilant and keep their eyes and ears open and report anything. it not have had the media it would not have had the media speculation i think may speculation it has. i think may appear to say appear to have been quick to say that had fallen in the that she had fallen in the water. obviously know water. we obviously don't know the facts of what's been going on. we only know of it. on. we only know parts of it. and it is dangerous to us to and so it is dangerous to us to be speculating. however if she was registered as missing, who was registered as a missing, who perhaps was vulnerable and

normally that's as far as the police will go. so if it's someone who's got dementia or it's person, a young it's a young person, a young female at risk of child female who's at risk of child sexual exploitation, i6 female who's at risk of child sexual exploitation, 16 year sexual exploitation, a 16 year old have missing. old girl may have gone missing. they the most they will cost the most vulnerable. highlights to vulnerable. which highlights to the more going the public. there is more going on here, if that's what have been pushed out, i don't think there have been big media there would have been big media speculation and perhaps would there would have been big media spechiven and perhaps would there would have been big media spechiven lancashireps would have given lancashire police more their thoughts more time to get their thoughts on hypothesis around what has to the the missing the tragedy of the missing nicola bulley. it would have given a bit more breathing given them a bit more breathing space here. doesn't appear to space here. it doesn't appear to be well, but i say, be handled well, but like i say, i'm to criticise another i'm loathe to criticise another police force this stage police force at this stage because we only a because we only have a percentage of the information . percentage of the information. and lies part of the and therein lies part of the problem donna because you as a police and crime commissioner reluctant to criticise so many of the facts are there so of the facts actually deserve criticism and you will be seen by viewers and you will be seen by viewers and listeners watching as part of the policing establishment and somebody who's manifestly or unwilling to stand up to

wrongdoing to these people to account and, to give us the police service, the length, breadth of the country that is fit for, purpose, truthful, open and doesn't employ criminals. donna, i guess peter's right in a way . there will be people at a way. there will be people at home who think you would say that a police and crime that you're a police and crime commissioner. would say , commissioner. you would say, well, essentially want to not cover their backs, but give them the of the doubt the benefit of the doubt when perhaps more scrutiny perhaps they need more scrutiny , criticism, for their , more criticism, and for their to be held to account . now. well to be held to account. now. well i disagree with that. peter warsi , when he was a police warsi, when he was a police officer, i'm not i'm a member of the public, i'm somebody stood up, put my head above the parapet, stood up for election and i'm stood up being for the 2 million people that represent and i'm stood up being for the 2 nbut)n people that represent and i'm stood up being for the 2 nbut i| people that represent and i'm stood up being for the 2 nbut i am ople that represent and i'm stood up being for the 2 nbut i am also that represent and i'm stood up being for the 2 nbut i am also aat represent and i'm stood up being for the 2 nbut i am also a mother.asent and i'm stood up being for the 2 nbut i am also a mother. i'mit . but i am also a mother. i'm a daughter. i'm a sister, an i'm cognisant of the fact that she's got two girls out there got two little girls out there and a partner parents and a partner and her parents who heartbreak and i'm who are heartbreak and i'm trying provide some calm, trying to provide some calm, which what, way, the which is what, by the way, the force the family have also force and the family have also happened. autopsy are happened. now, the autopsy are looking this . they looking into this. they will come with their come up with their investigations it's for me

investigations. it's not for me to get lancashire police to try and get lancashire police off the hook in way . this to try and get lancashire police off the hook in way. this is off the hook in any way. this is about bring calm about trying to bring some calm to enable professionals to do the they need to do both. in the job they need to do both. in terms of the complaint the terms of the complaint and the detectives on detectives that are working on this case at the moment to try and get to truth of what's and get to the truth of what's happened. of happened. some of this mudslinging help. mudslinging doesn't help. we will there with outcome will get there with the outcome of investigation . well, of the pc investigation. well, peter, just very quickly , that peter, just very quickly, that is that is true what donna said that do create a circus, do we not? are many people, the not? there are many people, the length breadth country length and breadth the country who reported matters to the who have reported matters to the ipcc and had very unsatisfied conclusions to those . so i'm not conclusions to those. so i'm not that at all. donna to point out that at all. donna to point out that she's a politician and, of course, a politician , a policy course, a politician, a policy that used to claim be the party of law and order. well, that, of course, sadly now is laughable. the only way the policing is going to get out of this crisis and try and regain trust and is by looking itself in the mirror, accepting when it's wrong , as

accepting when it's wrong, as opposed to being forced to admit things are wrong. i'm being truthful though and at the moment we're a long long way away from that with too police services in the country. i'll give you the last word . well, give you the last word. well, you know , peter calls me you know, peter calls me a politician. we're both here on tv giving our opinions. the difference between me and peter is, is that i have a legal mandate to do this because i've been elected by 2 million people. it there. people. i'll leave it there. well, go . feisty stuff. well, there we go. feisty stuff. thank you very much indeed for coming the show today. even coming on the show today. even though you've got very different views. i think that views. thank you. i think that was indeed. thank was informative indeed. thank you. detective you. former detective peter blakesley here in the studio, the conservative police and crime for crime commissioner for hampshire, jones, very hampshire, donna jones, two very different there. me different views there. let me know you think, are you on know what. you think, are you on peter think the peter side? do you think the police to be much police need to be held very much to account this one and that to account on this one and that they have failed? are you with donna that we need to be a little a little more balanced, perhaps, this one. you perhaps, on this one. thank you very much. deed. now, plenty very much. in deed. now, plenty more this afternoon more to come this afternoon on real break, real britain. after the break, the international for the international institute for strategic. difficult to strategic. i quite difficult to say. tank warned that

say. think tank has warned that britain risks behind france as nato's military power in europe . so should whitehall increase defence spending or risk the uk becoming outgunned by our next door neighbour? first, let's have look the weather . hello, have look at the weather. hello, i'm craig snow and here's your latest forecast from the met as we go through the next few days, it's set to remain changeable across north the uk, but across the north of the uk, but further south going to be fairly mild, but for most it's going mild, but for most us it's going to a good deal. koda to be turning a good deal. koda come in the middle of next week. so here's the situation at the moment. we've got an area low moment. we've got an area of low pressure the north, pressure across the north, bringing of rain bringing in a spell of rain here. still some lingering rain across english channel. but across the english channel. but as on, we will as the evening goes on, we will see begin to clear away see that begin to clear away into continent rain into the continent. the rain across and northern across scotland and northern also moving away as we go into the small hours of sunday. that will briefly, i think a bit clear and cold of scotland. so a risk of some icy stretches here, cooler elsewhere compared to recent nights. we're still on the outside. temperatures for most towns and cities, not falling than seven or falling much lower than seven or

eighteen. quite start in the eighteen. so quite start in the south on sunday, but rain working its way into western scotland and that will move its way eastwards as the morning goes bringing in lot of goes on, bringing in lot of cloud for northern ireland cloud also for northern ireland and. northern england could just see few spits spots of rain see a few spits spots of rain here especially across the here too, especially across the high further south, high ground. but further south, here's share here's mostly the lion's share of sunshine, come of the sunshine, especially come the across south the afternoon across south western england, central southern and southern england and temperatures here reaching 14 or 15 degrees. a mild today compared to today across scotland, but that be tempered somewhat by a key wind which will reach gale force later on in the evening as this rain continues to work its way south eastwards as the night goes on further south, fairly quiet but a bit more wind around . but that a bit more wind around. but that will help keep temperatures up around seven or eighteen. so monday , we will see a bit of a monday, we will see a bit of a north south split across the country. this area of rain will slowly work its way a little bit further south with sequester. a breezy, wet picture for, much of scotland, northern ireland and eventually into northern

england. but further south remaining brighter remaining dry, some brighter spells that spells and mild here and that continues on into tuesday. but then a change on wednesday, all us turning colder with a risk of some wintry showers in the north here on gb news. we'll be keeping you in the picture, finding out what's happening across the country and finding out it matters to you. we'll out why it matters to you. we'll have facts fast with our have the facts fast with our team of reporters and specialist wherever it's happening . be wherever it's happening. be there in 12 noon on tv, radio and online gb news people's channel. britain's news.

well, well, that was quite a punchy debate between the police and commissioner that and peter . but actually please do let me know what you think. do you think we're right? be losing trust in the police or? do you

think perhaps we should cut them a slack, particularly a bit of slack, particularly over this nicola bulley case? i feel the media have been making all sorts of speculations . the all sorts of speculations. the pubuc all sorts of speculations. the public have too. is that right? should they just be let left to get on with it? really? anyway, welcome back. this is real britain, of course. now we're going to be talking about something different now, are we being outgunned? france, the institute for strategic , has institute for strategic, has warned that britain falling behind france as europe's foremost military . the latest foremost military. the latest figures reveal that france has more combat aircraft frigates and troops than britain, despite spending significant less on defence figure, according to one senior researcher at, the think tank, the jury is still out on whether uk still has the most capable military in europe. of course, the revelations likely to increase pressure on rishi sunak to increase defence, which is supposedly still reluctant to do . to discuss this, i am now do. to discuss this, i am now joined by retired army officer

major general tim cross. no one better really, tim, thank you very much. so firstly should we fact check here ? do we have fact check here? do we have a worse military than the french? because a lot of us will not believe that will not allow ourselves to believe that . no, ourselves to believe that. no, we don't know. we don't . i lived we don't know. we don't. i lived and worked in france for two years on the try an actual guided weapons with the french and the germans and i've worked and the germans and i've worked a lot with the french over the years and they are very good military. but this idea that somehow far superior to us i somehow are far superior to us i don't go along with that to fair they said there is a risk here they said there is a risk here they haven't said it's happened. they're talking about it being a we roughly spend same amount of money on defence france money on defence as france germany around 50 billion in the actual money that extra money that came in last year. it does make difference and we now make a difference and we are now spending there is a spending more. but there is a difference the difference between us, the french, speaking i've french, generally speaking i've been involved in relatively and medium scale warfare operations. they've done a lot in recently in places like the sahel, chad,

niger lagoon, especially, and so on.and niger lagoon, especially, and so on. and interestingly we have helped them out in some of those operations, particularly with our logistics and our airlift and so on and our combat support and so on and our combat support and combat service support tends be deeper and better but they are very good at those sorts operations . in the first gulf operations. in the first gulf campaign that i took part in 1990, they did not put into the field a strong , self—sustaining field a strong, self—sustaining division, which we did . and this division, which we did. and this debate really in my view is not about whether france somehow catching us up and going superior to us. it's about whether we are falling down to their level in our ability to conduct high, intense anti war fighting operations as a divisional alongside or within an american court. for example . an american court. for example. and that that is the issue. and ihave and that that is the issue. and i have concerns about that . i i have concerns about that. i call it the critical mass below . we should not allow our army fall. and there's no doubt that are if we're not below it that,

we're pretty well close to going below it. so it's to regain that . but ten oh, is it a question then of the fact that perhaps we're just using our military more so therefore it becomes depleted with the latest example is ukraine of course we're sending huge amounts of military i assume we're sending quite a bit more than the french are. so we're using up and it takes some time to regain and regain what we've lost . yeah we're not we've lost. yeah we're not certainly military in our own manpower we're , we're not manpower we're, we're not putting people into the fight but we are putting a lot of stuff into the fight. and we've been doing that for quite a long time prior to the invasion actually and we are training a lot of ukrainian is back here in the kingdom and the the united kingdom and the french been slower that french have been slower that there's no doubt about it. and president been president macron has been criticised and own criticised for it and our own stocks depleted. so stocks are being depleted. so there's here about, you there's an issue here about, you know, replace the know, how do we replace the stocks that we're giving to ukraine and there is, for example, which you made

example, the air which you made the point earlier on. i think the point earlier on. i think the french have more aeroplanes, but you know, there's a debate about the capabilities of about about the capabilities of those but i are yes those aeroplanes but i are yes i've been using a lot of that air power in the baltic and estonia and various other places around the world in iraq and on. so we are using a lot our stuff and the big issue and ben wallace, the defence secretary, is absolutely right to be pushing for is need to be pushing for is we need to be given more resources to enable us to rebuild those stocks and get ourselves to a position where we can again put, as i said earlier, a self—sustaining armoured division into the field and be able to keep it there as and be able to keep it there as a war fighting organisation for a war fighting organisation for a long period of time . we used a long period of time. we used to be able to do that. we do it at the moment yet because. tim, i don't know if you've seen, but i'm sure you're aware rishi sunak has been at the munich conference and he's been saying and i quote now is the moment to double down on military if double down on our military if the treasury is being a bit ham fisted when it comes to giving

money to defence upping that defence spending surely it must be the top priority if he's going to go around saying we need double on support . need to double on our support. well, there's two things here. first you know, you first of all, you know, you would me say to say, would expect me say to say, having spent 43 years man and boy in the military, that defence and security the defence and security is the number priority any number one priority for any government. define is government. now how we define is another, you know, we can spend another, you know, we can spend a long, long time defining that, but nonetheless it is top priority. there are two issues. one stuff we're giving to one is the stuff we're giving to ukraine to them to ukraine to enable them to conduct own offensive. conduct their own offensive. and hopefully point hopefully at some point offensive operations . and the offensive operations. and the ability to do that relies as ukraine relies on the west as a whole, not just the united kingdom but the west as a whole, given those resources and other countries been pretty reluctant to do that far. countries been pretty reluctant to do that far . we've been to do that so far. we've been pretty good at it. the second issue having own defence issue is having own defence expenditure increase to allow us to increase this resilience. and to increase this resilience. and to be fair, the french have just their defence spending. the germans have said they're going to too. so rishi to do that too. so so rishi sunakin to do that too. so so rishi sunak in sense it both ways.

sunak in a sense it both ways. well, perhaps it's good that we're sort of perhaps it's good that competing with our that we're competing with our allies neighbours in allies and our neighbours in this way . you no one wants this way. you know, no one wants to the lesser military, to be the lesser military, perhaps. thank very perhaps. thank you very much indeed us this indeed for joining us this afternoon. was, of course, afternoon. that was, of course, tim a retired tim cross, a retired british army . deal with gb army officer. i deal with gb news tv and dab radio after the break. the number of migrants arriving in the uk by small boat crossings channel has crossings over the channel has risen 86% compared to last figures. already i'll be joined by my political panel to discuss that. but first, let's get a check on the news headlines with karen armstrong . it's 233 hour karen armstrong. it's 233 hour armstrong in the gb newsroom. you've just been hearing the uk will be the first country to provide longer range weapons to ukraine, with the prime minister saying time to double saying is the time to double down military support. down on military support. addressing munich security addressing the munich security conference sunak said the conference rishi sunak said the world's response to russian aggression hasn't been strong enough. aggression hasn't been strong enough . told allies advance

enough. he told allies advance standard capabilities are needed counter the kremlin's attack on moscow must be held to account for crimes against. what's at stake in this war is even greater than the security . and greater than the security. and sovereignty of one nation. it's about the security and sovereignty of every . because sovereignty of every. because invasion it's abhorrent war crimes and irresponsible nuclear rhetoric are symptomatic of a broader threat to everything we believe in. well, the prime minister also confirmed britain and the eu have an understanding on how to solve problems with the northern ireland protocol, but said no has been done. said act was greeted at the summit by.the act was greeted at the summit by. the german chancellor olaf has now held talks with the president of the european commission von der leyen . the commission von der leyen. the body of former premier league footballer christian atsu has

been recovered in turkey . his been recovered in turkey. his agent confirmed the ghanaian international, who had spells at newcastle, chelsea and everton was found almost two weeks after the earthquakes . more than the earthquakes. more than 45,000 people have been killed in turkey and syria . this in turkey and syria. this morning, though, a child was among three people to be rescued. 296 hours after the first quake struck and the british billionaire , sirjim british billionaire, sirjim ratcliffe, has confirmed company ineos has joined the race to buy manchester united. the chairman of one of qatar's biggest banks , sheikh jassim bin hamad al—thani, has also tabled a bid . sirjim says he wants to make the club a beacon, a modern, progressive, fan centred approach to ownership, which is focussed on winning the champions league tv, online and dab plus radio. this is gb news, but don't go anywhere. emily back in just a moment.

yes, welcome back. this is real britain on gb news tv, online and digital radio . now, figures and digital radio. now, figures released by the home office this reveal that the number of people arriving the uk after crossing the channel in a small boat is 86% higher than this time last yeah 86% higher than this time last year. as of tuesday, the figure at 2517 compared to 1352 at the same point last year, which has led to fears that 2023 will be another record breaking for the channel crossings. after almost 46,000 people, of course, made the journey last year , this is the journey last year, this is despite rishi sunak making stopping the boats. one of his five key pledges to voters. so the uk seemingly unable to put an end to the small boats crisis. should we adopt an open border policy to those seeking to enter the uk get here safely . to debate this, i'm joined political commentator emma webb, our friend of the show, of course, and the former editor of

globalist peter edwards. now, this might sound like a bit of an extreme and silly question to put that we should open the. but to many people, it seems like our borders are so porous peter we might as well just fling them open. got to make open. well, you've got to make a distinction policy is distinction what the policy is and whether it's actually and then whether it's actually enforced. think there's no enforced. but i think there's no appetite for open . appetite in britain for open. and any politician , any and any politician, any politician who said that would have been deaf to the message of the 2016 brexit referendum and even jeremy corbyn, who is no longer a labour mp, but that even he was leader, he wasn't really for open borders. the question is how do you have a policy ? how do you enforce it? policy? how do you enforce it? ultimately, how you keep people safe because there's a tragedy and there's a lot of back forth in westminster there's a tragedy because dying to because are dying trying to cross the water, get to britain. yes but it does seem now, mark, right delivered this, i believe it was an exclusive gb news that are now using more dangerous routes than they were before. so

it seems like perhaps some of the money to the french is actually working could actually be working, but then it's no goodif be working, but then it's no good if people are risking their lives even more by taking a dangerous, more dangerous route that's desperately trying to find a silver lining to the money. the money that we're giving to the french is going to any use. i think the idea me smiling i mean, i think the idea that in response to this that we fling open the borders is absurd. firstly don't think that that would necessarily stop people from taking these journeys because i don't think that's necessarily going to stop people smugglers. but you , the people smugglers. but you, the british people, want our borders to be secure. we need our borders to be secure because it's about national security. we've this in so many instances, we've seen a schoolgirl allegedly being raped by two migrant youths. allegedly being raped by two migrant youths . we've seen migrant youths. we've seen murder at the hands of people who have come into this country. so you know for security , we so you know for security, we need to know who's coming into

the country. we just fling the country. we can't just fling open doors and let anybody come in. it seems to me that if in. well, it seems to me that if you do arrive in this country by a dinghy, you basically there's little chance of you being sent back to the country , came from back to the country, came from or sent back anywhere . so we or sent back anywhere. so we kind of do have an border when it comes to the channel and. no, no, i don't think so at all. and i suspect if you talk to some of the people arriving in these terrible circumstances of sadly, some don't complete the journey alive, but the people who do , alive, but the people who do, it's not open at all. there's a series of police and home office measures. there's a regime that i think is has holes in it. it lacks. i think is has holes in it. it lacks . and that's effective and lacks. and that's effective and obsolete. the labour party, which which i represent globally, i'm a member and i'm sympathetic to, would say some of the policies are wrong as well? and it's very to hear you mention the cooperation with france was france because that was something the labour been calling for, over calling for, for over over a year now. now it seems to be happening because the end

happening because at the end of the keeping safe, the day keeping people safe, stopping involves working stopping dying involves working closely with eu referendum on no referendum . well, peter, you say referendum. well, peter, you say that but they the government have been trying to work with france a long time. this isn't that they've a falling that they've had a lot falling out them. this isn't the out with them. this isn't the first fallings well, first silly fallings out. well, you know, you could say that both have been a little both sides have been a little bit over last few bit tetchy over the last few years for many reasons, there's history history history that there's history there. that's going. is there. that's going. it is history there, of course. but emma, we've seen there's been well, a lot of heat. there have been groups it's been reported in the times today that there have been groups of people purposefully turning up at a hotel to cause trouble, to protest against migrants being there . is protest against migrants being there. is this protest against migrants being there . is this just protest against migrants being there. is this just sign protest against migrants being there . is this just sign that there. is this just sign that something has to be because the problem is that when this happens it makes the discussion even more divided people go off to the emotional arguments rather than the practical ones. yeah i think there's there have been a lot of accusations from political leaders pretty much

across the board say the home secretary's rhetoric around illegal migrant crossings, accusations that is what is inflamed tensions. i think what has inflame tensions is the fact that the government you know, it's not what the government says, it's what the government does. more to point, does. and more to the point, what government what the government hasn't, because policies surrounding because our policies surrounding , particularly at , migration, particularly at illegal migration across the channelis illegal migration across the channel is just clearly not working. it's stirring up so much resentment in the population . and think that, population. and i think that, you people are quite right you know, people are quite right to feel that situation is absolutely untenable . you just absolutely untenable. you just have look at numbers. you have to look at the numbers. you know was we a record know last year was we a record high of 4640 6000 people coming across the channel illegally and that's just across the channel and are just the people that we know about. so that's the bottom level we expect up to 80,000 to come this year. this situation is completely unsustainable and we keep seeing increasing incidence where this is actually putting people's safety at risk . i think the public the public need to see the government

actually doing about this. otherwise of course, tensions will get worse . and of course, will get worse. and of course, there will be certain groups who will try to exploit this for their own purposes and on both sides. so that's a good point, isn't it, peter because you talk about compassion and a lot of the left talk about compassion. particularly when right wingers say that we need to have security at the border and that we can't have these crossings and that we need to send back send people, etc. but send people, etc, etc. but where's compassion in refusing to acknowledge that people are taking advantage of this route and may have hostile motivations or may not qualify asylum? it seems that the debate is so difficult to have with some people just say, oh well, you have have compassion, but people's is for their country as well the safety of their country security , etc, etc. well, it's security, etc, etc. well, it's possible to both realistic and compassionate . there's anger on compassionate. there's anger on both sides over people angry .

both sides over people angry. the numbers coming into britain or perhaps a bit more like me. and people are left about the treatment of people here. but i think we can all agree there is no place for vigilantism that is not the answer at all. and anyone that turns up at a so—called migrant hostel or hotel shouting and waving placards , that's madness. they placards, that's madness. they can direct frustration towards the government or westminster in a lawful but people turning up shouting night as well. the migrants is completely unacceptable. i think labour has been realistic in the past. it's obviously been on a bit of a journey. if you cast your mind back to the ed miliband last time yvette cooper shadow home secretary on his brief she was very actually provoked a bit very and actually provoked a bit of revolt revolt within the labour party. so labour has listened public listened to the public and i think labour is completely realistic. a good realistic. well that's a good point amazon in point actually. amazon in the labour have been talking labour party have been talking tough. you believe that tough. do you believe that though, because they are the party, zarah sultana and jeremy corbyn, not jeremy corbyn, but others ? well, i'd like to see others? well, i'd like to see the i think. well i

the borders. i think. well i think the, the, the doors flung open by tony blair. so the labour party awful lot to labour party has an awful lot to answer for department. i certainly wouldn't them certainly wouldn't trust them with migration with this is lawful migration rather than open borders. that's a thing but the a different thing but it's the context, it? because context, isn't it? because i think people be less think people would be less worried about numbers, not necessarily boat crossings, necessarily with boat crossings, but just in general. if we hadnt but just in general. if we hadn't had years and years of migration being in the hundreds of thousands. yeah, repeatedly the british public, when polled want immigration to be taken control and every single election the british public always vote for more controls on immigration. but the numbers gone up and up and up despite of the talk from successive governments on both sides of the house. and so i think the public are frankly getting fed up . and are frankly getting fed up. and the more that we continue to see these incidents occurring where, as with the case of even as you were saying about the treatment of migrants , fact that though it of migrants, fact that though it was a young boy who two cases actually of child exploitation

taking place . in one of these taking place. in one of these migrant hotels plenty of other cases, i think people are getting really sick of the way this is being dealt with because the government, successive governments have talked tough , governments have talked tough, done absolutely are we done absolutely nothing. are we a country or we a sovereign country or are we not? you mentioned brexit. we should able to control should be able to get control this we shouldn't . a this situation. we shouldn't. a situation on our hands where. we're unable to deport even violent criminals because we're still in the sea . does the still in the sea. does the labour party risk peter demonising people they purport to represent the working class. we've seen that hotels have perhaps been disproportionately located in deprived areas or areas where resources are scant already. so when you ask them and they perceive rightly or wrongly that those resources now being spent on people who have arrived in a dinghy , are they arrived in a dinghy, are they not right to be angry ? not right to be angry? obviously, vigilantism is a disgusting thing to do and it's well , no one

disgusting thing to do and it's well, no one in their right mind should do that. but can you understand why there is a level of anger in those particular. well, you asking me a few different questions but the only group being demonised in society is migrants and i'm afraid and i've tried to be political. i've tried not to be political. it's right of it's absolutely the right of british politics, like the conservative party, not not the people on the panel today, but it's conservative in it's a conservative party in parliament that is demonising migrants and i apologise for interrupting important interrupting and it's important clarify tories have clarify this because tories have deliberately blurred the line between different areas, between legal migration. it's economic, illegal and asylum claims and it will measure measured in different ways and enforced in different ways and enforced in different ways and enforced in different ways and. the tories have blurred the line on that deliberately for party political gain . well, what evidence do you gain. well, what evidence do you have? very quickly, peter, how they blurred the lines. what you think they just talk about illegal immigration, boats illegal immigration, small boats and same and migration in the same breath, essentially is that what you're saying? you're the you're saying? you're on the right about right line. they talk about people and they talk people coming over and they talk about our rights. and there's a i there's bit of an

i think there's bit of an innuendo about culture innuendo about british culture being these are being undermined. but these are all different groups and someone coming a war zone is very coming from a war zone is very different to an economic saying. we're people have we're not people. people have been they've been telling been out. they've been telling politicians don't want politicians that they don't want this continue . nothing seems this to continue. nothing seems to done they're surprised to be done and they're surprised when, the boiling over when, you know, the boiling over flows out of the pot. anyway, lots of have been sending in your thoughts on the topics we have been discussing on the small boats crisis. eric says we should the lifeboat men should require the lifeboat men to where the migrants began to ask where the migrants began that and that of their journey and safely, return them safely, safely return them to their starting point. well, i'm not sure they'd necessarily tell the truth. is there so determined to arrive in the uk, but it's a starting point. jane says. but it's a starting point. jane says . i find but it's a starting point. jane says. i find it but it's a starting point. jane says . i find it disgraceful that says. i find it disgraceful that all people who have paid into the system their whole are the system their whole lives are forced homes, to forced to sell their homes, to pay forced to sell their homes, to pay their care. yet people pay for their care. yet people who illegally and who have come here illegally and done this country done nothing for this country are totally, totally for. this is the thing what i'm saying people british people have a sense of fair play and it doesn't seem that play doesn't seem like that fair play at moment. my at the moment. and on my monologue and meghan monologue on harry and meghan christine completely

christine says, i completely agree and harry agree with your views. and harry and meghan my husband and i watch south episode having watch the south episode having never south before never watched south park before and it seemed them up and thought it seemed them up pretty as pretty well as as well explaining clearly explaining very clearly the brand of people. brand management of people. hopefully we will now turn a corner waikerie, everything corner on waikerie, everything that and turn that it encompasses and turn backs and meghan. backs on harry and meghan. i think think we're all think we all i think we're all collectively turning our backs here. and on the other of the atlantic. thank you very much indeed your indeed for sending in your views. keep them views. please do keep them coming. going to be coming. now we're going to be moving football news, moving on to some football news, but quite a lot to do but it has quite a lot to do with the state of britain, perhaps one of the uk's richest people, said jim reportedly people, said jim has reportedly the buy manchester the race to buy manchester united it comes as sheikh united team. it comes as sheikh jassim bin hamad al—thani. i think that's how you pronounce it. one qatar's it. the chairman, one of qatar's biggest bid biggest banks, confirmed his bid to club from the to acquire the club from the family. got thinking . family. this got me thinking. after the acquisition of newcastle year and newcastle last year and manchester city in 2008. is it a problem that british brands or institutions are foreign owned now. still with me is my political panel peter edwards and webb. but also got and emma webb. but i've also got aidan who's going give aidan magee who's going to give the lowdown, please. so we're on

a field, so we all a playing field, so we all understand here. understand what's going on here. so last night, the merchant bank in new york, a company called , in new york, a company called, the rain group who manages chelsea's last year, they set a soft deadline of for bidders declare their interests in manchester united. so only a few people in the world afford to do that. not many people have got that. not many people have got that many of pounds sloshing around back pocket. around in their back pocket. nonetheless, did see the nonetheless, we did see the colour the qatari money. they colour of the qatari money. they bid we also saw , jim bid £4 billion. we also saw, jim ratcliffe, as you mentioned, the ball in oldham, chelsea season ticket holder, united supporter, he for he was in the bidding for chelsea actually last year, the rain who knows just rain group, who knows email just quite have thought quite well i would have thought but how he bid but don't know how much he bid but don't know how much he bid but he's relying on loans from jpmorgan and goldman sachs to bid guys city. the banks bid guys in the city. the banks . the difference with qatar bid is that it's not going to be leveraging any against the leveraging any debt against the club . now, the problem the club. now, the problem the qataris have and to lesser qataris have and to a lesser degree relative houses that they own of outside of own clubs outside of outside of these these shores itau bid is there have been involved with paris saint—germain , a champions

paris saint—germain, a champions league club since 2011. jim ratcliffe he owns nice league on in france 74 points of europe's highest possible. they could compete in the same competitions within europe. the we might may not see a saudi bid not heard anything out of them is because they already newcastle united newcastle pose a different problem because . then you'd be problem because. then you'd be only the premier only two clubs in the premier league. that's a completely different ballgame to managing two clubs in so there different ballgame to managing twotw03s in so there different ballgame to managing twotwo bids so there different ballgame to managing twotwo bids so so there different ballgame to managing twotwo bids so far. so there different ballgame to managing twotwo bids so far. iso there different ballgame to managing twotwo bids so far. is itthere different ballgame to managing twotwo bids so far. is it going are two bids so far. is it going to be for america with suggestions that david may be involved? he would have involved? i think he would have to hard about to think long and hard about whether involved with the whether to get involved with the right bidder because he's had his reputation damaged so his reputation damaged ever so slightly last few months slightly in the last few months due involvement with due to his involvement with with qatar then elon musk qatar itself. and then elon musk has i'm interested has said, well, i'm interested in so i don't in buying man united, so i don't think want seriously. but think you want to seriously. but evidently i don't evidently people did. i don't think you'll be seeing the bid time soon than that bit of time soon other than that bit of willy isn't it? it willy waving, isn't it? yes it is. yeah, yeah, yeah. not something i but know something i engage, but i know you the no icon. you signed the united no icon. yeah mean, every rich man yeah i mean, every rich man wants we should wants this thing, as we should say, the value these bids,

say, about the value these bids, the reason the bids are relatively low although it seems like 4 isn't isn't a bid like 4 billion isn't isn't a bid is quite because they're low is quite low because they're low lowballing the market so far what mean what the rain group have done is they've created a market in the sense that they've all two bidders so they believe they between seven and all two bidders so they believe the million, between seven and all two bidders so they believe the million, possiblyn seven and all two bidders so they believe the million, possibly even en and £8 million, possibly even £1,000,000,000. for £1,000,000,000. so for manchester exactly you manchester united is exactly you buy a few houses in bromley for that. additionally you have a that. so additionally you have a situation where the glazers would settle for five between five and 6 billion, then you pocket change yesterday validate 3.9 billion. but now that creates the market. the sky's the limit in terms of the price will it happen quickly depends because the glazers won't sell it cheap. well there you go there's the context. peter, are you a footballing fan? you think a problem that we're selling off our clubs to whoever is the highest bidder. well i'm a liverpool fan, but i'm also a football fan. more and it is a community game and much as i love it , it's a community game and much as i love it, it's a game that

stopped being english a long time ago. the clubs are owned by foreign that make many of players. it's probably over half in the premier league. a foreign players . a lot of the money players. a lot of the money comes in from the global tv audience, the sponsors as a global and, even many of the british ones. unfortunately are either the british betting companies or, betting companies based offshore . there's not much based offshore. there's not much that's english about english premier league and i think that's all that's something that all football supporters of any football supporters of, any stripe with on stripe would agree with on manchester united. i think we're all concerned qatar you all concerned about qatar you know the world cup at huge a number of corruption allegations in the run up to the award of the world cup to qatar that we had last year deaths of migrant workers constructing the stadiums and their records on human rights and gay are they welcome to join the premier league. well are we still what do you think? do you think it's come to even call it a community game anymore really? well, you know me, i don't know the first thing about football. so what's

your take then? well, selling essentially, industries . so. essentially, industries. so. yeah, well, so this is the thing. i actually i think peter's right, you know, football football used to a community game. and i think that there's an appeal to that. i might even be interested in football if everybody was involved the actually involved in the was actually from managed by from the local area managed by someone the local area someone from the local area owned from local owned by someone from the local area. but unfortunately, that's just the world we're living just not the world we're living in. a globalised in. we're living in a globalised world big brands, world where these big brands, whether or whether whether it's football or whether it's it's a boys it's whisky, it's a big boys game and owned by these game and they're owned by these huge they're huge conglomerates or they're owned some of the world's owned by some of the world's richest people. it is there richest people. and it is there is an element status to is there an element of status to it when it comes to the ownership this and i think the main issue imagine many for many brits is the is the hypocrisy that you see when you have some footballers trying to take a moral stance but the same time their clubs if they're owned by these countries that are very morally looks like an awful morally that looks like an awful lot of hypocrisy maybe that will keep much indeed. i'm keep just that much indeed. i'm sorry i'm going to have to really interrupt you there. we

must break. was, must go to the break. that was, of course, political commentator must go to the break. that was, of courwebb litical commentator must go to the break. that was, of courwebb liticeformer1entator must go to the break. that was, of courwebb liticeformer editor)r emma webb and former editor labour peter edwards and labour list peter edwards and aidan thank much aidan magee thank you very much to is real britain on to all this is real britain on gb news online and digital radio. plenty coming up on today's but first, let's today's show. but first, let's get hello i'm craig get weather. hello i'm craig snow. and here's your latest from the office as we go from the met office as we go through days, it's through the next few days, it's set to remain changeable across the north of the uk. further south, to fairly south, it's going to be fairly mild, but for most of us it's going to be turning a good deal colder. in the middle colder. come in the middle of next week. the next week. so here's the situation the moment we've got an low pressure across an area of low pressure across north a spell of north bringing in a spell of rain, some lingering rain rain, still some lingering rain the channel. as the english channel. but as evening we will see evening goes on, we will see begin to clear away the continent. the rain across scotland and northern england also moving away as go into the small hours of sunday. but that will briefly last like a bit clear and cold of scotland. so a risk, some icy stretches here , risk, some icy stretches here, cooler elsewhere compared to recent nights. we're still on the outside. temperatures most towns and cities not falling much seven or eighteen. so

much than seven or eighteen. so quite start in the south on sunday, but rain working its way into western and that will move its way eastwards . the morning its way eastwards. the morning goes on, bringing in lot of cloud also for northern ireland and just see a few and england could just see a few spits rain here spits and spots of rain here too, especially the ground. too, especially the high ground. but further south, here's where we see the lion's share of the especially afternoon. especially come the afternoon. of england, of course south western england, central, southern and temperatures reaching 14 or temperatures here reaching 14 or 15 degrees. a milder day tomorrow compared to today across scotland, but that be tempered somewhat by a key wind which will reach force later on in the evening as this rain continues to work its way south eastwards as the night goes on further south for fairly quiet but a bit more wind around . but but a bit more wind around. but that will help keep temperatures up seven or eighteen. so monday will see a bit of a north south split across the country. this area of rain will slowly work its way a little bit further south with so quite a breezy wet picture for in scotland, northern ireland and eventually northern further northern england. but further south dry, some brighter

south remain dry, some brighter spells still mild here. and spells and still mild here. and that continues into tuesday. but then a change on wednesday, all of us turning colder with a risk of us turning colder with a risk of some wintry showers in. the .

nonh good afternoon and welcome back to real britain with me emily carver on a tv and digital radio now plenty more coming up on the program this hour. we'll be finding out what's next for the snp and more importantly , the snp and more importantly, the united now that united kingdom. now that sturgeon's of picture. sturgeon's out of the picture. but the news with karen but first is the news with karen armstrong armstrong . it's 3:00. armstrong armstrong. it's 3:00. good afternoon . i'm karen good afternoon. i'm karen armstrong in the gb newsroom.

the prime minister has urged world to act now and double down on military support for ukraine. addressing the munich security conference , rishi sunak said the conference, rishi sunak said the us. response to russia hasn't u.s. response to russia hasn't been strong enough and he urged allies follow britain in providing advanced long—range weapons to ukraine. he called for nato to offer ongoing assurances to fight russian aggression and for moscow be held accountable for crimes against. humanity. it's a stake in this war. is even greater than. in this war. is even greater than . the security and than. the security and sovereignty of one nation. it's about the security and sovereignty of every nation because russia's it's abhorrent war and irresponsible rhetoric are symptom of a broader threat . everything we in. well, the prime minister also said a deal with the european union on issues with the northern ireland protocol is by no means done .

protocol is by no means done. rishi sunak, who was greeted by the german chancellor olaf scholz at the summit , held talks scholz at the summit, held talks with the european commission president ursula von der leyen described a positive discussion. the leaders said intense work was still needed at official and ministere levels and they agreed to remain in contact over the coming days. i'm working very hard together with my ministerial colleagues, foreign secretaries in the secretary of state for northern ireland. we are working very closely together . we're are working very closely together. we're engaging in those conversations with the european union week potential all the time . we have been for all the time. we have been for a while. but what i'd say is there is still work to do. i think there is still work to do. there is challenges to work through. we have not resolved all these issues. there isn't. issues. no, there isn't. there isn't deal has been done. isn't a deal that has been done. the of the former premier league footballer christian atsu has been recovered in turkey . his been recovered in turkey. his agent confirmed he ghanaian international who played for newcastle, chelsea and everton , newcastle, chelsea and everton, was found under the rubble of his almost two weeks after the

earthquakes. more than 45,000 people have been killed in turkey and syria . rescue turkey and syria. rescue efforts, though, are continuing . this morning. a child was amongst three people to be saved. 296 hours after the first quake struck , one of the uk's quake struck, one of the uk's richest people, sir jim ratcliffe, has confirmed his company ineos has joined the race to buy manchester united. he's competing with sheikh jassim bin hamad al—thani, the of one of qatar's biggest banks to acquire the club from the glazer family. sirjames says he wants to make manchester united the number one club in the world. railway engineering workers are planning to walk out next month in. a dispute over pay- next month in. a dispute over pay. members the rmt union at balfour beatty hold 348 hour strikes on the third, 10th and 17th of march. they rejected the company's offer of a five and a half% pay increase , which would half% pay increase, which would have been backdated to last year . meanwhile, unions representing

, thousands of university staff have called off seven days of strike action over the next two weeks, issuing a joint statement said an agreement has been reached on pay pensions with a final pay offer of between eight and 5% from august. however, the plan strikes in mid—march over grading and 0 hours contracts will still go ahead. south korea's condemned the north for firing a ballistic missile, describing the move as clear breach of un resolution as pyongyang launched a missile into the sea off its east coast this morning as the us and korea prepare for annual military. nonh prepare for annual military. north korea fired an number of missiles last year, including those the ability to strike anywhere in the united states and almost 2000 homes in aberdeen shire are still without power after otto. strong winds caused blackouts across scotland , northern england yesterday. most properties have now been

reconnected to the grid . reconnected to the grid. scottish and southern electricity networks say has sent food vans to affected and hopes all power will restored by the end of the day . this is gb the end of the day. this is gb news. as always, as it happens but not back family. and thank you very much and welcome back to real britain. what's coming up on the show this hour? the huge political of the the huge political news of the week, first minister nicola sturgeon has resigned. she admitted was a polarising admitted she was a polarising figure has the figure and no longer has the energy to with the latest energy to lead with the latest polling figures now showing labour only points behind labour only two points behind the in scotland. is it game the snp in scotland. is it game over for scottish independence. thenin over for scottish independence. then in royal news, the king faced waving, not my king placards as he arrived in milton keynes to celebrate its new city status week. and now south park, of course, as i mentioned at the

top of the show, all latest to take the mic out of harry and meghan. royal commentator rafe heydel—mankoo join me to heydel—mankoo will join me to discuss that one. and later on there was huge public outrage this the owner this week. centrica, the owner of gas posted a record of british gas posted a record £3.3 billion in profits. if people think they're taking advantage and they don't deserve profits. should we just nationalise the lot. that's what we're talking about for the next. i would love to know your thoughts on today's topics. please tweet me at gb news. you can email gb views at can email me on gb views at gbnews.uk. you watch gbnews.uk. you also watch us online. always on youtube online. as always on youtube back. online. as always on youtube back . in two. online. as always on youtube back. in two. so yes, online. as always on youtube back . in two. so yes, the back. in two. so yes, the biggest worry of this week political shockwaves from bate house in edinburgh still across the united kingdom after eight years in power, nicola sturgeon resigned as first minister. the snp is already preparing to decide on her successor. but more importantly, decide what exactly they're going to do

about independence . with latest about independence. with latest polling of scottish voters in the past week has put labour behind the snp in general election voting intention . you election voting intention. you could argue support for independence is waning a little scottish labour leader anas sarwar swan has said his party is ready for government in a rallying cry to activists at the party conference, mr. saw was made a direct plea to conservative and snp voters ahead of the next election, urging them to put their trust in labour. scotland reporter tony maguire is in edinburgh for . tony, what does this leave in the polls for scottish labour mean for independent independent 7 mean for independent independent ? well it's quite an interesting topic. certainly me and, a few other journalists were able to sit down with earlier today and someone actually pointed out very question, almost word for word as independence dead . you word as independence dead. you know, and i think we've got quite a reserve response from anas sarwar . simply put, no , you anas sarwar. simply put, no, you know, the idea is there and no matter what way the polls swing , it seems that half the country

is going to be disappointed either way. so at some point in the future , the independence the future, the independence question is going to have be be asked again . and at some point asked again. and at some point even beyond that, we're going to have to find date definite aim for this. you know scotland voted you know in terms of local authorities unanimous to stay as part of europe . but here we are part of europe. but here we are few years later and we're just getting on with it really . and i getting on with it really. and i think that that scene will at some point has to be applied to the scottish independence question . but these debates question. but these debates separate, you know, huge chunks of the population , something of the population, something that i was really keen to bring anas sarwar earlier on today. that i was really keen to bring anas sarwar earlier on today . so anas sarwar earlier on today. so i simply asked him what was labour's plan, scottish labour , labour's plan, scottish labour, uk labour for bringing a bit together after seemingly a whole decade of division . it's a huge decade of division. it's a huge opportunity right now in scotland to move past the politics of division, whether

that's snp division or indeed tory division and to demonstrate to people that governments can do more than just manage decline claim. this isn't as good as it gets. change possible. we don't have to pit scot against scot or community against community. we can come together work together to confront the challenges facing scotland, to strengthen scotland, but also renew and the uk. that's the platform in the pitch the labour party is standing and that's what we're confident all heading into the next general election and certainly that he wasn't the only person today to be to be pushing that seat of it. ian murray scotland's only labour mp now just took to the stage at 2:00 this afternoon and certainly his focus listening and more in the snp leadership. this was very comparing it to choosing a new of the titanic . choosing a new of the titanic. what he told the delegates was that it was just as well it

wasn't a ferry, but as wouldn't have anything to jump for and of course alluding to the two ferries which are still setting unsaleable and which have that that's point no cost than the scottish parliament building. certainly the independence question is always going to be an issue . and bob, we'll see an issue. and bob, we'll see what happens when keir starmer arrives tomorrow . thank you very arrives tomorrow. thank you very much indeed . that's our scottish much indeed. that's our scottish reporter, tony, thank you very much for bringing us the very from edinburgh. that so we're going to be discussing this and more with the former of reform uk reform , uk, scotland. uk reform, uk, scotland. michelle ballantyne and alba party mp neil handmade very much indeed.thank party mp neil handmade very much indeed. thank you very much indeed. thank you very much indeed for . joining us this indeed for. joining us this afternoon . so you heard that afternoon. so you heard that labour have some kind of spring in their step i would say from watching that last package . i'll watching that last package. i'll start with you michelle. do you think? who do you think the can now recruit? who would give labour a run for their money? because it does seem like they're running out of. time to

establish a new in the way that nicola sturgeon was etched on everyone's minds. nicola sturgeon was etched on everyone's minds . well, i think everyone's minds. well, i think that's the major problem they're facing. the choices they've is actually quite limited got to choose from within the holyrood pool choose from within the holyrood pool. and what you're looking at is probably somebody like kate forbes or angus robertson or humza yousef, all of which come with where the party's concerned . i mean, forbes has had a baby. whether she wants go back into the fray and take on such a big job is a big question. and, of course, her her views her own personal principles won't chime with a lot of the sort of more left wing socialist members of the party. angus robertson has been quite quiet since coming back into the hollyrood . and of back into the hollyrood. and of course, he presided over the failure to get the census delivered effectively and humza yousaf where do i start . you yousaf where do i start. you know he's nicknamed humza useless for a lot of reasons, but he isn't considered to be a safe and strong pair hands. what we really have is no obvious

succession nicola sturgeon held power. so tightly that she hasn't left snp with somebody carries matic who can just walk in, take the party with her and she herself divided the party. i there's a good reason we have somebody from alba today . i somebody from alba today. i think i would probably credit nicola sturgeon with creating the ground that . alba is now the ground that. alba is now starting to soak up and i think it'll be interesting because i think there's a battle royal coming between those two parties. yes it's quite remarkable how i'll come to you in a minute, neal, but it's quite remarkable how nicola sturgeon managed to talk about how important it was to rid politics of the divisive language and stop being polarising. when in my and i'm sure a lot of people's view she is one of the most divisive politicians in this country, if not the most. neal, what do you think? what does this mean for independ ? and in my mind, it independ? and in my mind, it probably puts independence on the back foot and. well, i think

the back foot and. well, i think the a range of views that you can take on that, emily. i think the first point i would make is that the cause of independence is about any single individual orindeed is about any single individual or indeed about anything no political party. there are a variety of parties in scotland that support the course of independence and indeed a lot of civic scotland who not party affiliated to support the cause of independence . but it's you of independence. but it's you know, unavoidable to acknowledge that the recent debacle over the gender recognition reform legislation has driven many away from the snp . i think that it from the snp. i think that it would be churlish not to acknowledge that. but the importance thing is that, you know, the movement which all of the parties and that's where think michelle is very mistaken is our resolve and some of that divisiveness that you spoke about between different of the power of the movement that will

potentially be healed by this move and we will be i'm certainly i'm willing to collaborate with anyone , any collaborate with anyone, any party who interested in furthering the case for scottish independence. so i don't think it's the big win that the unionists i think moving on. i think , i would caution anyone think, i would caution anyone who thinks that labour is any of solution on gender recognition reform. if that's the issue you're about, because there are committed to delivering that if they are in government. so the only way to solve this significant challenge is to that sex based rights are enshrined . sex based rights are enshrined. a written constitution for an independence scotland. well michelle neal's right that could go two ways. it comes to independence . this could this be independence. this could this be seen as a bit of a dead end? nicola herself seemed to try

avenue that was possible to get the second vote. she wanted . but the second vote. she wanted. but also you could see a reinvigoration of the entire movement now that nicola who was so divisive, is gone . there's an so divisive, is gone. there's an element of truth in that, but there are still some very big questions to answer. i mean, you've mentioned draft. i mean , you've mentioned draft. i mean, a large proportion of the msps voted for it, including all of labour or most labour. and but actually alex salmond . and as actually alex salmond. and as i understand it, alba was very, very strongly it. so and that's one thing where to come . they're one thing where to come. they're going to have to really compromise how they're going do things. and the reason they split up in the first place is because they couldn't. they couldn't agree on the route to independence. you know, there that side of the independence who believes they should just go hell for leather, ignore the just rammed it through regardless atlas of how the population of scotland feel . and

population of scotland feel. and then there is the other side who are much more loyal base to want to do it in a more who who subscribe . i believe alex subscribe. i believe alex salmond was one of those originally who subscribe to winning scotland over through peaceful democrat means you know get devolution show the people of scotland how it could work. in fact what we in the people of scotland have found is that since devolution things in scotland have got worse. rather than improve . and to us that than improve. and to us that independence is a good forward. it's gone the other way . our it's gone the other way. our education systems. delilah and support systems have gone downhill . we've got ridiculous downhill. we've got ridiculous laws , like giraffe person that laws, like giraffe person that they tried to push through . they tried to push through. they've now got a button return scheme. that is just nonsense. so the independence movement. yes i totally get that. there are movement and lots of people support it . are movement and lots of people support it. but what are movement and lots of people support it . but what you've seen support it. but what you've seen is a lot of people now. well, hang on a minute. is a lot of people now. well, hang on a minute . yes, i want hang on a minute. yes, i want independence. but the direction of travel of the independence, supporting parties is really

uncomfortable and doing nothing for scotland , the people. so for scotland, the people. so this is a huge mountain to climb . yeah. and there's only so long you can keep blaming westminster if you're proving to be nonsense incompetent, perhaps . incompetent, perhaps. absolutely. as first minister. but neil, very quickly , sorry. but neil, very quickly, sorry. we're running out of time, which is a real shame. but neil, just lastly, who would you fear the most as the next leader of the snp ? well, you know, just snp? well, you know, just challenge on the idea that scotland is has problems and they are indivisible or they are from westminster's control . and from westminster's control. and thatis from westminster's control. and that is simply not true. they are individual about how we study in education. if i had turned study in education. if i had turne d £100,000 every day since turned £100,000 every day since the battle of bannockburn today, i still have taken the same amount of money out of scotland. i show that in profit last year, though, to say that scotland can afford to have much better. i'm

at community and service provision as an absolute nonsense. of course we can be in until a new. i would say , and until a new. i would say, and neali until a new. i would say, and neal, i do have sympathy because people said that about brexit and i did then vote brexit. so, you know i don't think that people should be allowed potentially the right potentially to have the right try it out. but who would you fear most as snp leader ? well, i fear most as snp leader? well, i would like to see somebody who is not tethered to the gender recognition reform . you know recognition reform. you know that was that legislate option was brought forward really and the first minister's behest. it was never discussed or baited and snp conference. i you know i had my troubles in the snp because i spoke up about my concerns around women's safety. you know , two and a half, three you know, two and a half, three years ago or longer actually 2019. and that is how fiercely the first minister did fended her her you know hobbyhorse gender reform and it's you know

it's no surprise it has become this really and problematic against me i think have been vicious in divisive . sorry to vicious in divisive. sorry to interrupt but perhaps that will be kate forbes because she, i believe, spoke out about it for women's . but thank you very much women's. but thank you very much indeed, both of you, forjoining indeed, both of you, for joining us this afternoon. that was very interesting. leader of uk scotland, michelle valentine and alba party mp nil have a very good lots to think lots of differing views . anyway we're differing views. anyway we're going to move on to something different the uk's maritime rescue services are being warned to expect more migrant boat crossings over a much wider stretch of southern coastal in the year ahead. it follows a move by people smuggling gangs to launch small boats further south, the french coast to avoid police patrols around calais and dunkirk . but it's the fact dunkirk. but it's the fact people are using more dangerous routes, the channel routes, crossing the channel proof that the money we're sending french is actually sending the french is actually working. we on this working. now, we touched on this before, joining me before, but joining me to discuss now is conservative discuss this now is conservative councillor for ashton green

claire thank very much claire pearsall. thank very much for us, claire . thank forjoining us, claire. thank you much for taking the you very much for taking the time afternoon. so time out of your afternoon. so do think . this is evidence do you think. this is evidence that the current strategy may be working a little bit or is that wishful thinking ? well, i think wishful thinking? well, i think that we can take some positives from this and. it does look as though the money we've sent over france has been put to good use the patrols on beaches are up and they're all fenced is going around the points where of weakness where people were coming to the original. so i think this is probably a little bit early to say whether it'll work in the long term. but i do think that there are definitely some positive between the some positive moves between the both countries make this work and it seem to be having an and it does seem to be having an effect. clare , very quickly, effect. and clare, very quickly, we have time , but the we don't have much time, but the times been reporting today times has been reporting today that of groups that that the number of groups that are up hotels.com are essentially up at hotels.com today and causing trouble because , they're angry, they're because, they're angry, they're protesting about the migrants that people are saying . some of that people are saying. some of them are far right groups. what can be done with that? have you

seen that in your your seen that in your in your backyard? we haven't seen riots. like where we're currently seeing at the moment. and i do think that labelling anything as a far right riot is really lazy . so i wish people would stop doing that. we understand people are angry and. i think that the government needs to a grip on this and get a grip on it quick before people get hurt. and it's always to be the wrong people that get innocent will get caught up and none us wants to see now they have see that happen. now they have all very quickly all thousands just very quickly as are of course, as there are of course, thousands of people already in hotel accommodation . what can hotel accommodation. what can the government do straight away to up the process and to just speed up the process and sort people before are sort those people out before are thousands more crossing . they thousands more crossing. they needed to have done this years ago . think that we all can see ago. think that we all can see that spots in the meantime they need to speak out. the process of asylum applications. they need to have enough staff on board. those decisions need to be taken quicker and also returns with eu 27 countries so

that once people are processed if they have knowledge , estimate if they have knowledge, estimate reasons to be here, they be removed to a different country until that's in place, none of this is going to change thank you very much. almost always common sense and to the point from you. thank very much from you. thank you very much for this on real for joining us this on real britain to discuss how migrants are using those more dangerous crossings and also the fact that the times has been reporting that far right protesters, as they call them, are essentially going to hotels around the country and causing causing a bit of trouble. what do you make of plenty more to come this afternoon on real britain? after the break, we're going be talking the royals, the king faced protesters waving not my king placards as he arrived in, milton to celebrate its milton keynes, to celebrate its new city status this week . now new city status this week. now south park are the latest to take the mic out of harry and royal commentator rip dale manky will join me to discuss that . will join me to discuss that. first, let's have a . break join first, let's have a. break join me camilla tominey at 930 on

sunday morning when . i'll be sunday morning when. i'll be speaking to penny mordaunt, leader of the house of commons, about defence spending nicola sturgeon and her own prime ministerial ambitions and more. i'll also be asking graham brady, chairman of the 19th 22 committee of backbench tories , committee of backbench tories, how the party plans to win the next general election without bofis next general election without boris johnson and calum best son of manchester united , george of manchester united, george best will be telling what it was like to live in the shadow of flawed genius. all and more at 930 on .

sunday yes, welcome back. this is real britain on tv, online and digital radio. now some lighter , perhaps. prince harry and meghan have come up on the wrong

side of the sussexes have been in a new episode of the hit states side cartoon south park. the doesn't name the pair specifically , but it's pretty specifically, but it's pretty obvious that the character's barrister like resemblance to harry and meghan through course of the episode, they complain about , wanting privacy while about, wanting privacy while constantly drawing attention to themselves with media appearance is. let's have a look at a clip of them appearing on canadian talk show host the prince and his wife . we find that we that his wife. we find that we that you've lived a life with the royal family. you've had everything handed to you. but you're saying your life has been hot and now you've written all about it in your new book, we're. yes, that's right. and you say my wife i are you say my wife and i are talking like you should write a book your like book because your family like stuff then some are like stuff it. and then some are like journal, that's royal broadcaster commentator rafe broadcaster and commentator rafe heydel—mankoo joins me now. now rafe i'm not sure if you've been asked yet what your instant reaction is . the south park reaction is. the south park

episode of well, i've got to say i'm actually a fan of south park . it's early days. i have to confess. i haven't it for a few years now . but this really sort years now. but this really sort reminded me of the golden age of south park, and that's really been the response i've seen on social media. people saying this is one of the best episodes of any of the comedy in years . it's any of the comedy in years. it's really, you know, satire is a long lost art form . so many long lost art form. so many areas of life now. people scared of giving offence and south park, i think, is one of the last true purveyors of, proper satire. this is it. that was most bitingly brilliant and brutal. i think, you know , brutal. i think, you know, anyone watching this would not be well, was clear that it's a merciless skewering if can say of the hypocrisy and the superficiality and narcissism of the duke and duchess of duplicity. one wonders whether they saw it. we know how keen harry is to google himself and his wife and see the public's reaction to. i'm not sure if the royal family would engage in

schadenfreude or that too noble that, but i'm sure many people delighted in seeing harry and meghan their just desserts because i imagine so i did give my view at the top of the show actually. if you want to have a look at the clip, it will be on youtube and twitter. of course. but i did i did wonder what prince harry and meghan would be saying home. i think they'd be outraged. why do people misunderstand only misunderstand us? we're only trying save the trying to, you know, save the world its bigotry. i guess world from its bigotry. i guess . but it's quite interesting because satire it's going it doesn't seem to go after the progressives that often. i read an article in the telegraph, i believe it was today. a columnist had written about how this is great because the satire is actually against the woke people rather than making fun of i don't know trump the easy targets. yeah, absolute glee. well, i have to say, having watched south for the first time in ages, i was interested to see that they have a black cartoon character. they're called tolkien. you j.r.r. tolkien's

surname, but actually the way it's pronounced is tolkien . so it's pronounced is tolkien. so i think south park's been indulging in attacks and criticism of progressives for quite a long while actually. but i think more broadly i think this is just really exposed the catastrophic nature of harry and meghan's pr . catastrophic nature of harry and meghan's pr. i catastrophic nature of harry and meghan's pr . i mean, meghan's pr. i mean, particularly after the release of spare or why as a south, i'll call it the wailing of the crib . but the writing is now increasingly, i think is now increasingly, i think is now increasingly apparent that even those who supported them are seeing them who they really are, manipulate you have drama queen in terms of meghan and a spoilt cry—baby in terms of hierarchy. and i think that's why even the progressives are losing faith or interest in them. and you're seeing them become an international laughingstock, not just on south park. we've seen an increasing number night—time talk shows, particularly kimmel in america, making fun of them, but also their friend james corden, too. it's open season them and i don't think that could be any worse for self

important couple than to realise they've become international objects of ridicule. i mean do you come back from that , back you come back from that, back from having the world discuss friends in georgia. well this is the thing they desperately want to be taken seriously . they to be taken seriously. they don't seem to be able to laugh at themselves . at least harry at themselves. at least harry doesn't seem to have done that for a long time now. and i don't think seen meghan laugh at herself. i've thought from when she was mocking the royal family. of course , but we shall family. of course, but we shall see. it does seem like america has out of love. if they has fallen out of love. if they ever love with the ever were in love with the couple. but i hope this marks a change in the way that we view kind of this kind of endless grandstanding and woe. cory by some people that consider themselves victims when they are no such , in my humble opinion. no such, in my humble opinion. thank very much indeed for joining this afternoon to discuss that south park episode of harry and meghan that's repaid bank, one of our favourite royal broadcasters and here at gb news. you are with tv

news on tv and dab radio after the break. we're going to be talking british gas. that's because british gas owners and your profits triple to a record £3.3 billion after a price surge triggered by russia's halt on gas supplies to. europe. i want to ask people are sick and tired of seeing these big profits, aren't they? so we just go the whole hog and nation lies the lot. let me know what you think. but let's get a check on the news headlines with karen armstrong . it is 332. i'm aron armstrong. it is 332. i'm aron armstrong. it is 332. i'm aron armstrong , the gb newsroom. the armstrong, the gb newsroom. the prime minister has urged world leaders to send the most advanced to ukraine and double down on military support . down on military support. addressing the munich security conference , rishi sunak said the conference, rishi sunak said the west's to russian aggression has not been strong enough. he confirmed uk will be the first country to send longer range weapons to ukraine and urged to provide advanced nato standard

capabilities to counter the kremlin's attack . what's at kremlin's attack. what's at stake in this war is even greater than the security and sovereignty of one nation. it's about the securing and sovereignty of every nation . sovereignty of every nation. because russia's invasion it's abhorrent war crimes and nuclear rhetoric are symptomatic of a broader threat to . everything we broader threat to. everything we believe . in star also confirmed believe. in star also confirmed britain , the eu have an britain, the eu have an understanding on how to solve problems with the northern ireland protocol, but no deal has been done. rishi sunak met the german chancellor olaf scholz at the summit and also held talks . the european held talks. the european commission president, ursula von der leyen. he described it as a positive discussion . the leaders positive discussion. the leaders saying intense work was still needed at, official and ministerial levels and. they remain in close contact over the coming days . remain in close contact over the coming days. the body of former premier league footballer

christian atsu has been recovered in turkey . his agent recovered in turkey. his agent confirmed he got an international who had spells at newcastle chelsea and everton. was found two weeks after the earthquakes . was found two weeks after the earthquakes. more than was found two weeks after the earthquakes . more than 45,000 earthquakes. more than 45,000 people have died in turkey and syria. this morning though a child was amongst three people to be rescued . 296 hours after to be rescued. 296 hours after the first quake struck . and the first quake struck. and british billionaire sirjim ratcliffe and his company in have joined the race to buy manchester united. the chairman of one of qatar biggest banks sheikh, jassim bin hamad al—thani, has also tabled a bid. so jim says he wants to make the club a beacon for a modern, progressive, fan centred approach to ownership which is focussed winning the champions league . that's it for the league. that's it for the moment. tv, online and dab radio. this is gb news, but don't go anywhere. real britain be back in just a moment.

so people have been absolutely furious this week. there's been pubuc furious this week. there's been public outrage, media outrage , public outrage, media outrage, outrage from all politicians , outrage from all politicians, some of them anyway, all because british gas owner centrica reported soaring underlying annual profits of , 2.8 billion, annual profits of, 2.8 billion, up from 392 million in 2021. but despite thousands of households struggling with gas and electric bills , some people are very bills, some people are very upset that centrica boss chris o'shay is so far refusing to reveal whether he will waive his bonus or not. people think that he should because people are suffering with their . perhaps suffering with their. perhaps that's fair enough , but there that's fair enough, but there are more energy firms which have seen profits since oil and gas pnces seen profits since oil and gas prices jumped following russia's invasion of . ukraine. there are invasion of. ukraine. there are those who would argue that all natural like gas, natural monopolies like gas, water, electricity, other i'm

sure should be in public ownership . and we should ownership. and we should nationalise energy with the fact has posted these record profits . and that strengthens that argument . i want to ask get down argument. i want to ask get down to basics are furious. should just simply nationalise british energy then we don't need to worry about people making humongous profits. so joining me to discuss is energy analyst at the institute of economic affairs, andy mayer we've also got leader of the sdp william preston and socialist party industrial organiser rob , thank industrial organiser rob, thank you very much indeed. we've a sweeping range of opinions on this panel. this is brilliant and. i think you'll give a strong argument for why we shouldn't . should we start with shouldn't. should we start with you ? yeah, well, we've had you? yeah, well, we've had a printing this week. of what the alternative like. we've got edf group in france, which owns a british subsidiary which runs nuclear plants, and they've made a billion euro loss or thereabouts. and what going to

happen with that is that the french will be expected to cover the failure of the french nuclear industry , the any nuclear industry, the any investment they to put into that industry in order to new plants will again to come from the taxpayer. well, it'll be competing with other priorities as defence health, education and maybe won't be the priority and they won't have investment. so there may be issues people have with companies making headline profits when times good, they seem to notice when it's bad . seem to notice when it's bad. but the result of that is you end up with competition driving innovation . and if you go to innovation. and if you go to nationalisation, you end up the government decisions with government making decisions with actual reasons. and those reasons often made. william reasons are often made. william andy said there that france is having its issues with its energy companies. having its issues with its energy companies . you think energy companies. you think britain would just do it better at it? depends what you've got to ask. a fundamental what is the purpose of energy and utility policy ? and we think in utility policy? and we think in the esdp that the purpose is to provide secure and reliable

energy to the public and most of the public. that's the purpose of it. trouble is, we've governed for people by people for about 30 years, 40 years, even , who think the purpose is even, who think the purpose is to set a structure that enables people to extract profits out of it , you know, and basically this it, you know, and basically this is what we this is what we have. you have a crazy situation where the energy market is blown up because of the war. yes, i accept centrica making essentially a war and there's a good case for taking some of those back. but i'm just looking in the structure it's not not socially useful to have what we have. i've never understood why need 80 separate companies taking a bet on the wholesale energy price and laying that bare self onto households and the previous speaker in the iea said know when things get into trouble. you've got to remember who who bails it out. look at both. you know, the state which is basically you and i really had to but had to bail structure out . well, rob, let's bring you

out. well, rob, let's bring you in. you are a socialist, self—proclaimed socialist . so self—proclaimed socialist. so may i ask you just quickly, is there anything you wouldn't wish to nationalise ? i think the big to nationalise? i think the big issue , isn't it, is that the big issue, isn't it, is that the big economic levers in the economy should be taken into public ownership. that's what we about . i think a majority of tony voters want the energy and utility companies greenwash slows the games up isn't there for these people over decades of racking up the profits. i mean, it's a bit rich to mention nuclear power industry in france where we have you is a disaster in a good point. an absolute private sector catastrophe bailed out by the state already . so the point is that the resources there in society, but they really owns the fat cats. we shouldn't forget by the way, british gas fired and rehired its workforce a couple of years ago took its workforce a couple of years ago too k £10,000 out of their ago took £10,000 out of their pocket sucked hundreds of

workers . we can't rely on the workers. we can't rely on the fat cats they'll run everything in the interests of profit and everyone else will suffer . well, everyone else will suffer. well, politicians could everything in the interest of politicians , the interest of politicians, some might argue . but andy, do some might argue. but andy, do you love do you have any problem with these very high profits that these are making while pnces that these are making while prices for consumers are going up. do you think that , for up. do you think that, for example, the boss of british should feel a bit shy, a bit about the fact that he could be raking in a massive bonus at this time ? well, i think he's this time? well, i think he's got to be feeling the is being blown in all directions. he waived his bonus a couple of years ago when there were record prices. and now he's being asked do the same thing again, despite having a record performance at some point, these companies do actually have to attract talent and attracting talent to the top end chy and attracting talent to the top end city does mean end of the city does mean attracting i attracting high bonuses. so i don't specific problem with don't have specific problem with him that. but he's looking

him doing that. but he's looking at it from the point of view of pr he'll make decision, pr and he'll make a decision, i assume, in the next month or two i'm going to the previous point. absolutely correct. hinkley absolutely correct. the hinkley point disaster. but what's point is a disaster. but what's happened worst of happened there is the worst of both had the both worlds. you've had the privatisation of profits and the nationalisation of risk , and you nationalisation of risk, and you can't that. you've to say can't do that. you've got to say these if you don't these companies, if you don't succeed you target, you succeed, you don't target, you will lose all money and you will lose all your money and you get and that's the get fired. and that's the fundament problem with fundament ital problem with nationalisation. fundament ital problem with natiodon'tntion. fundament ital problem with natiodon't lose their jobs. they they don't lose their jobs. they stick around like the chairman of boe sorry the ceo of bulb has done his company failed done since his company failed last and government last year and the government took over . well, last year and the government took over. well, william, took it over. well, william, would come back on would you like to come back on that one? because it make that point. that's ludicrous. well what's up with robert ? rob, i'll what's up with robert? rob, i'll come to you next. i'll just let william . yeah, come back on. william. yeah, come back on. projects like you point mean. i just ask people to think a little bit more deeply on this . little bit more deeply on this. we used to build the used to build civil nuclear power stations in this country. and the tories decided that we wouldn't we would stop doing

that clip the fact we closed down produce nuclear fuels and in 2010 and they doing so because they didn't want to do it and that's the problem the lack of will the people on the part of the people that govern us to actually get an energy strategy right and it can't be that the tories don't believe the do these things . the state can do these things. why? because thinks the why? because it thinks the french state can do it. or the chinese communist can do it effectively because well, as as they the capacity and they close down the capacity and british power, the british nuclear power, the tories went crawling to the chinese and the french to say can you do it for us. that's exactly the same in railways. you know, railways be nationalised. we can run them, you know, you can have a super of national integrated system from caithness , cornwall if you from caithness, cornwall if you wanted it , from caithness, cornwall if you wanted it, but instead they chopped it up into little bits. it's completely phoney . and the it's completely phoney. and the other states meanwhile, are running our railways. it's a disgrace and it's very, very . disgrace and it's very, very. well, get andy's view on that first. but rob, do you think there's any role for private

companies surely need private investment if we're going to transition brighter, transition in to a brighter, greener the government isn't going necessarily pick the right winners when it to whether we're going to be using hydrogen or whether we're going be using electric . what not electric vehicles. what not don't we need private companies to innovate . well look this to innovate. well look this government do it is it because this government is subservient and probably starmer is the same subservient to the private sector. so no, i mean, what would a guy from the iea just said is very interesting because that's what happens all. the time in under this system, capitalism. then what happens is when the private sector can't deliver , then we always deliver, then we always nationalise risk. look what happenedin nationalise risk. look what happened in the when the banks failed they they were nationalised. they were taken into public ownership, temporary . and then when we put them back on their feet what happened, they were taken back into the private sector making billions of pounds of profit . so the of pounds of profit. so the question is here is that in order to run a proper economy that safeguards the interests of

the majority, then i look down, apology says i'm a socialist . i apology says i'm a socialist. i mean, yes, we should have a socialist ownership for the majority of the economy , the majority of the economy, the economic levers of the economy tell you what you look at, what you have. no, it's an absolute catastrophe and you must must feel like you're pushing water uphill on this one. it does seem like the public outrage is , like the public outrage is, well, massive . and from all well, massive. and from all sides of the political , i think sides of the political, i think there is a growing feeling that perhaps energy and water and whatnot should be nationalised . whatnot should be nationalised. but, well , it whatnot should be nationalised. but, well, it won't whatnot should be nationalised. but, well , it won't solve but, well, it won't solve anything again . i do agree with anything again. i do agree with previous speaker. we should not have bailed the banks out. we have bailed the banks out. we have let to the bondholders of those banks lose that money while protecting the account holders people holders so vulnerable people didn't concer of didn't suffer concer of basically crooked making bad decisions . basically crooked making bad decisions. but on the basically crooked making bad decisions . but on the energy decisions. but on the energy from again if we look at nuclear power, the reason we don't have a british nuclear industry is because we're really bad at it . because we're really bad at it. we tried that in the 19 5060s and seventies and designed

something wanted buy. something else wanted to buy. then looked to the french and said, we'll have some of they're much it. but it looks much better at it. but it looks the is new model, is the french is new model, is failing so all of these failing as well. so all of these state owned corporations have delivered bad products . and delivered bad products. and that's the fundamental problem with national ization is you don't actually solve anything you just take everything into the government . disguise the the government. you disguise the problems become very, very problems until become very, very serious as . they have done problems until become very, very serious as. they have done in the nuclear time , time the nuclear industry time, time again. just very again. well, i'm just very quickly just very quickly, because we have wrap things quickly just very quickly, bec unfortunately. wrap things quickly just very quickly, bec unfortunately. w1do things quickly just very quickly, bec unfortunately. w1do you gs up, unfortunately. but do you think think the profit motive think i think the profit motive is a wonderful thing. it gets people gets people people it gets people innovating. people trading, innovating. it people trading, etc. etc. do you think we risk actually making things worse? perhaps we demonise people who are making a profit. i think for the ordinary products that we consume day by, day, the private sector is very, very efficient doing producing those and should be left to get on with it. but on things like energy and water and railways and housing, the state does have a role to my

complaint is that that role been deliberately denuded and the results disastrous. i mean, you know , we need to wake up because know, we need to wake up because the european union and china and the european union and china and the united states are aggress heavily pursuing a policy of energy, resilience and energy self—sufficiency and. we got to make up . well, there you go. make up. well, there you go. thank you very much indeed. all three of you. that was a robust debate, perhaps a little one sided, but that's no worry . we sided, but that's no worry. we like to have all different views represented . that was energy represented. that was energy analyst at the iea , a andy analyst at the iea, a andy mayer. and we also had leader the sdp, william clinton and socialist industrial organiser rob williams. there i don't think it's a good idea to renationalise the energy companies. just putting that out there. but please let me know what you think. now, this week gloria piero has sat down gloria de piero has sat down with dave penman, general secretary the first division secretary of the first division association. he is the leader of the service trade union. the civil service trade union. he about the bullying he was asked about the bullying allegations against the deputy prime minister, dominic raab,

talking about this point in time, we think more than two dozen civil servants come forward, eight separate complaints, three different government departments over a penod government departments over a period of four years. so all of that has to be investigated. that doesn't mean he's guilty, but it suggests there's something quite substantial here . his conduct that so many civil servants and it's not easy to complain about a government minister . so complain about a government minister. so many civil servants have come forward over such a long period time with complaints . you can watch the full interview on gb news show. gloria meets where you'll find who the person behind the politician is . sunday at 6 pm, politician is. sunday at 6 pm, so stay tuned for that. now, lots of you've been sending in your thoughts on the topics we have been discussing today on the small boats crisis. sue quick question, why these migrants spending thousands of pounds shores when pounds reach our shores when they fly in less cost? and they could fly in less cost? and why also are they disposing of that idiot ids before if they are genuine asylum seekers? well, it doesn't take a cool

euro work out that perhaps they don't want the security services here to know where they are coming from. tony says if the government doesn't take drastic action to actually stop the boats, rishi will be out at the next election. if they can stop it. rishi will have a thatcher falklands resurgence . you go and falklands resurgence. you go and or nicola sturgeon's resignation more says independence is dead in the water as all the snp. for sturgeon to say that it was to go because scottish politics had become too polarising is just wrong. she knew that her gender recognition reform bill had sunk her. she is the worst thing to happen to scotland and for supporters that she did supporters to say that she did a lot of good for scotland is just delusional. she has not done one thing that for thing that was good for scotland. she is a disgrace. i love to the point of view is love how to the point of view is always sense. straight to always common sense. straight to the point what i'd like to see and i'm scottish and and linda says, i'm scottish and it's to down unionist it's all to down unionist supporters that independence has held and the tories held by labour and the tories have nothing. allowing this have done nothing. allowing this to in preparation for to go to ruin in preparation for rejoining the europe union. will

they go ? strong stuff that keeps they go? strong stuff that keeps sending in your views this afternoon. now we've got a bit of a funny one to end the show, but it's a classic of the university vocal genre. the university vocal genre. the university kent has been criticised for discouraging the use of the phrase christian, claiming it is offensive to non—christians. the university told students to stop using the term because it claims it only relates to christians . instead relates to christians. instead suggesting students say first name or given name . and if that name or given name. and if that wasn't enough work for you the students at the university of oxford. have warned oxford. oxford have been warned of upset themes in of potentially upset themes in a range of mediaeval stating some works contain racist and misogynist views. right now, with in the studio is host of reasons uk jess gill who joins me now. now jess you are fantastic in the way you highlight how people are a little bit when it comes to work they think that they are saying they think that they are saying the right don't they and they can't really back it up with why. tell me a little about the channel because i know you've

been doing some great sort of vox pops before we get onto of course. i reason duke course. i mean reason duke absolutely fantastic. it's a show all young people show that not all young people are i think the strong are woke i think the strong majority of young people don't believe there's a million believe that there's a million genders nonsense. genders and all that nonsense. and gives young and i think it gives young people voice . so what i've people a voice. so what i've been recently liam and been doing recently and liam and darren doing is be darren have been doing is we be going to sri asking people going to the sri asking people bafic going to the sri asking people basic like some values basic questions like some values plus an impulse. and that's an astonishing does they astonishing but it does they can't answer an impulse. so people scared to actually say yes i people scared to actually say yesi do people scared to actually say yes i do think my father , yes i do think my father, brother, husband is actually important. it's men who are saying it as well. imagine being so pathetic for so much that they can't even say that their impulse is wow. that's a great state of affairs. is it for country and a society? but hopefully will shine a light on it and that will change. but what do you make of . well, what do you make of. well, firstly, this story of the university of kent saying christian name is now beyond the pale, let's be real. it's really about christian names no one's

offended by. that is . against offended by. that is. against western societies, against western societies, against western civilisation. i think all this is rooted in oh, for example if it was, they're against surname because it has patriarchal roots. i if it has patriarchal roots. i if it has patriarchal roots. i if it has patriarchal roots i think we need to encourage people to know adopt fatherhood . there are too adopt fatherhood. there are too many single parent which aren't fair . women aren't foreign fair. women aren't foreign children. and i think to take responsibility, as i was saying before, i think that's a massive issue.i before, i think that's a massive issue. i think western civilisation and christianity have made some of the most amazing things the world, but it's almost to even say that and it's almost to even say that and it's quite remarkable how young people and obviously not you and the people you work with and whatnot, they obviously take a different . but it does seem like different. but it does seem like young now are taught to be ashamed of where they come and of their history but also with this oxford university. so they've now got trigger warnings on. a series of mediaeval works , including those of geoffrey chaucer , of course, died in the chaucer, of course, died in the year 1400. i mean, it is quite

that we're putting trigger warnings , texts that old i mean, warnings, texts that old i mean, these are grown people . they're these are grown people. they're students. i think they can handle this sort of thing. i sort of the same title as well we're allowing kids to go through harmful surgery saying that they're able to change the agenda that fine with that but they can't handle some sensitive, vaguely sensitive topics. it's absolutely ridiculous it is ridiculous. perhaps they're trying to protect themselves from i don't know lawsuits or something we had trigger warning us. had a trigger warning don't us. anyway much for anyway thank you very much for joining was host of joining us that was host of reason uk, gill. thank you reason uk, jess gill. thank you very much indeed. now on the topic of christian name, topic of the christian name, a spokesman person from the university of kent has said we are committed to the creation support of an inclusive and, diverse community as part this, we provide informal guidance for who would like support in how communicate in ways that make feel welcome. it's like someone asked the chapel to write this anyway . these are formal anyway. these are not formal policies and are not. they are intended as a point of reference to staff and feel confident

to help staff and feel confident in playing their part in creating inclusive university creating an inclusive university community. and on the topic of trigger warnings, i must another a spokesperson for oxford university has stated the institution does not recommend or encourage use of content or encourage the use of content warnings and goes on so you've been well now this we've got time for thank you very much jess for joining time for thank you very much jess forjoining me in time for thank you very much jess for joining me in the studio you've been watching real britain with emily carver britain with me emily carver thank much for sending thank you very much for sending in your views this in all your views this afternoon. thank you very much for show is on every for your this show is on every saturday at 10 pm. but for now i'll you with the what. i'll leave you with the what. hello, craig snow. and hello, i'm craig snow. and here's latest forecast from the met as we go through met office. so as we go through the it to remain the next few days, it to remain changeable the north of changeable across the north of the uk. but further south is going be fairly mild. but for going to be fairly mild. but for most it's going to be most of us it's going to be turning a good colder come turning a good deal colder come in middle of next so in the middle of next week. so here's the situation at the moment. an area low moment. we've got an area low pressure across the north bringing in spell of rain bringing in a spell of rain here. some lingering rain here. still some lingering rain across english channel. but across the english channel. but as goes on, we will as the evening goes on, we will see to, clear away

see that begin to, clear away into continent rain into the continent. the rain across and, northern across scotland and, northern england also moving away as we go into the small hours of . but go into the small hours of. but that will briefly, alas, take a bit clear and cold of scotland. so risk of some icy stretches here cooler elsewhere to recent nights. we're still on the outside temperatures. most towns and cities not falling lower than seven or eighteen. so quite in the south on sunday. but rain already working its way into western scotland and that will move its way eastwards as the morning goes on, bringing in a lot cloud also for northern lot of cloud also for northern and northern england. could just see and spots of see a few spits and spots of rain here across the high rain here to across the high ground. further south, ground. but further south, here's lion's share here's mostly the lion's share of especially come of. the sunshine especially come the across . south the afternoon across. south western central western england. central southern temperatures southern england. temperatures here reaching 14 or 15 degrees. a mild today compared to today across scotland, but that be tempered somewhat by a keen wind which will reach gale force later on in evening as this rain continues to work its way south eastwards . as the night goes on eastwards. as the night goes on further south, fairly quiet but

a bit more wind around . but that a bit more wind around. but that will help keep temperatures up seven or eighteen. so monday will see a bit of a north south split across the country. this area of rain will slowly its way area of rain will slowly its way a little bit further south with so quite a breezy, wet picture for much of scotland. northern ireland and eventually into northern further northern england. but further south some spells south remaining dry, some spells and still mild here. and that continues on into tuesday. but then a change on wednesday , all then a change on wednesday, all of us turning colder with a risk of us turning colder with a risk of some wintry showers in the north. quite gb news. north. i'm mark quite gb news. homeland security editor. i cover those key issues that are so important to you our authorities, our communities doing all they can to combat violent crime with the public under unbearable strain . are we under unbearable strain. are we still failing to control our borders? defends the first priority of any has been continually hollowed out. can we trust politicians to protect the armed forces? join me white on gb news news .

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