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at nine. good evening. i'm tatiana in the gb newsroom. the uk says it's ready to countries which can provide jets to ukraine. the prime minister made the commitment after addressing the munich security conference where he urged world leaders act now and double down on military support. rishi sunak said the west's response russia hasn't been strong enough to win the war. ukraine more artillery, armoured vehicles and air defence. i've done is say to all allies that we stand ready to support them if they can provide . fighter jets to ukraine now . fighterjets to ukraine now for our part. we're also leading the in training ukrainian pilots on nato's standard aircraft
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that's the right thing to do because this is about giving ukraine the means to defend themselves and win this war that's about more air defence, it's about armoured vehicles , it's about armoured vehicles, it's about armoured vehicles, it's about armoured vehicles, it's about long—range weapons. the uk is out in front in all of these and it's important that we continue to do and lead because we want to ukraine we all want to see ukraine succeed. sunak said a deal succeed. rishi sunak said a deal with the european on fixing issues with the northern ireland protocol is by no means done. he held with the european commission ursula von der leyen on the sidelines of the summit, describing as a positive discussion. the said intense work still needed at official and ministerial levels and agreed to remain in close contact over the coming days, over russia. the us secretary of state has had a meeting . china's state has had a meeting. china's top diplomat antony blinken met with wang yi in munich today. it follows comments wang made towards us earlier today, saying it's international norms with
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what he described as historic behaviour as tensions have continued following chinese balloons being flown over the us canada. a state department says dunng canada. a state department says during the meeting blinken made clear such an must never happen again . a woman in her has died again. a woman in her has died after she was attacked in a park in exeter . a murder in exeter. a murder investigation has been launched and police are searching for a man who could be armed and dangerous. officers were called to ladue valley park around 4:00 this afternoon following reports the woman had been seriously assaulted. she died at . the assaulted. she died at. the former us president jemmy carter is receiving hospice care at his home in georgia . a statement home in georgia. a statement from the carter centre says the 98 year old made the decision after a series of short stays in recent years. he suffered from several health issues, including a melanoma that spread to his liver and brain . tv online and
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liver and brain. tv online and the ap plus radio. this is gb news now say that the headliners . hello welcome to headliners the nightly newspaper revue show that aims leave you a bit more informed or at least hopefully not dumber . informed or at least hopefully not dumber. i'm josh howie and joining me to sort through the best of sunday's papers is the big cat leo kearse and the big hamster. consider sorry i'm trying out some new headline nicknames . what do you think, nicknames. what do you think, guys? nicknames. what do you think, guys.7 yeah i mean, we do have a lot of sections to through, so we'll we'll find the right one. okay stock goes down so much . we okay stock goes down so much. we the dog was taken. i you know what.7 it's it was more the what.7 it's just it was more the fact hamster like the fact the hamster was like the next the pets list. it wasn't next on the pets list. it wasn't . now that see you , i see. . now that i see you, i see. yeah, i go to. okey dokey. let's
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on. let's it. not that you look like a cat. let's have a gander at sunday's front pages . first at sunday's front pages. first the mail on. andrew who fears he will lose the mail on. andrew who fears he will los e £30 million home. boo will lose £30 million home. boo hoo hoo . the sunday telegraph. hoo hoo. the sunday telegraph. johnson's warning to sunak on northern ireland deal. the observer . johnson threatens observer. johnson threatens tonight's bid to end deadlock over brexit. the sunday times tv station shot as iran's killers target uk staff. the sunday express forces two broken to defend uk . the daily star can't defend uk. the daily star can't get to work today chief as of being abducted by aliens. britain's can't get the job done because extraterrestrials and those have front pages right . those have front pages right. okey dokey . we're going to kick okey dokey. we're going to kick off with the mail on leo. so for
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three. prince andrew fearing going to lose hi s £30 million going to lose his £30 million home. so apparently prince charles is cutting back on the royals. so traditionally know being a being a king or being a princess or whatever you get, you know, you associate it with some money and jewels and things like that. but you know in like that. but no, you know in these of hardship, the these times of hardship, the cost living prince cost of living crisis. prince charles wants slim it down charles wants to slim it down a bit. so he's to cut prince . bit. so he's to cut prince. prince andrew thinks his his grant of 250 grand a year is going to be cut. and that's what he needs to pay for his million pound mansion begins to live in for free. you just got to pay for free. you just got to pay for the upkeep. but it costs a lot, too, to peter. i was telling my heart bleeds i was on jobseeker's allowance once and if that got cut it would have been bad. but this this is even worse because it's so much more than jobseeker's allowance, which i think is i think jobseeker's allowance is about nine year tops. jobseeker's allowance is about nine year tops . what is nine grand a year tops. what is this is a 250 grand a year, which is which is quite a both state benefits people can't live
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on quarter a million a year. what's that? i end up getting a babysitting job on saturdays, isn't it? well, i wouldn't want him babysitting kids . isn't it? well, i wouldn't want him babysitting kids. i mean, him babysitting my kids. i mean, he . he's never been proven it. he. he's never been proven it. nothing's been proven in a court of law, but still rumours hover around them. i'd if i was him, i'd be grateful. i'm not in some some nasty dump cellblock somewhere getting you know whatever they do is just having a laugh. yeah what about you ? do a laugh. yeah what about you? do you do you feel for him? i mean to be fair , there's no to be to be fair, there's no to be fair. is that i suppose he's probably got a lot of overheads . yeah. paying off a lot of cases. well no. i mean he stays in most of the time. no. so he doesn't even even have the overheads of nothing. i mean this is part of a bigger thing to sort of reduce the cost of the royal family and why don't we this the royal we privatise this the royal families in families worked so in other areas of business still areas of business we still they're a brand and they sell they're a brand and they to sell their honey to yeah their highgrove honey to yeah they've got all the eggs they've already got all the eggs and you know they were gassed. from the duchy of cornwall the
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burford browns and all kind of stuff. the fancy eggs when you know you want to splash , you know you want to splash, you know, other as well. so know, other, other as well. so the tudors tourists would be charged to visit , you know, charged to visit, you know, buckingham palace or whatever those plates with corgis on. do they get royalties? those corgis are a thing anymore they can sell sale and leaseback the crown jewels. there's lots of ways of monetising that whole they have to supposedly get ways of monetising that whole they have to supposedly ge t £3 they have to supposedly get £3 million for his security they have to supposedly get £3 nright. for his security they have to supposedly get £3 nright. think his security they have to supposedly get £3 nright. think it's security they have to supposedly get £3 nright. think it's just rity they have to supposedly get £3 nright. think it's just not . right. you think it's just not going you know, pizza going to, you know, pizza express to stay inside. yeah. it seems a of a waste of money. seems a bit of a waste of money. but and also the other thing they're saying is, possibly he's going to be moving to america, his best option to sort of monetise what prince monetise is, wow, do what prince harry did. yeah right. do some netflix specials . yeah, i want netflix specials. yeah, i want to see people have learned his lesson never go in front of a camera. he was much than entertaining in front of a camera than prince harry i thought, oh yeah, that was good. that was a good interview. we like that. what likes of the like that. what the likes of the sunday times for us chris the tv
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show tv station shut as iran killers target uk. so a killers target uk. wow so a dissident right in television station based here has had to close because of terrorism the british police are no longer to prepared protect them and they've suggested that they go washington instead. yeah put the problem on them. yeah, yeah yeah. we'll go on. no, i was just going to say this is this is shocking? i mean, the channel is shocking? i mean, the channel is manager mahmood and yet it says that a foreign state is caused a significant threat to the british and british. so they have move an entire station have to move an entire station to america . this is this is to america. this is this is shocking. there's real you shocking. there's a real you know, the of this state know, shows the of this state censorship basically terrorism and censorship is a threat not just to you know, what we can see. and media is allowed to proliferate in this country. it is a threat . the british public is a threat. the british public and british values . is a threat. the british public and british values. this is is a threat. the british public and british values . this is a and british values. this is a threat literally to people's lives i believe in 2022, there , lives i believe in 2022, there, 15 plots to kidnap, murder. yeah, journalists who work for
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this station. and it seems incredible that they're getting it's amazing the security services seem to be on top of it because it hasn't happened. but it's unbelievable. people are able come over into able to sort of come over into country. also that country. and also that was another poll, moyston another poll, you know, moyston used. there's i mean, used. there's one i mean, there's stopping people. someone's doing their job. but someone's doing theirjob. but in the jewish chronicle , that in the jewish chronicle, that was the my favourite newspaper where there was a plan the iranians had a plan. the government to murder jewish people . significant members of people. significant members of the diaspora jewish community. fortunately, i'm not famous i'm so i'm not on that list in any way but it's scary. they're out there and suella braverman braiman says that she wants prescribe iran's revolutionary guard corps . like who? guard corps. like who? essentially the people organising all this. but it sort of seems incredible to me that they're not already prescribed it. yeah and we've seen with , it. yeah and we've seen with, you know, skripal poisonings you know, the skripal poisonings and been killed in and other being been killed in the uk, other states can, can come in and assassinate people you know quite, quite easily and with, with things that are, you
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know , salman rushdie in the fact know, salman rushdie in the fact wise and things that are more a sort of cultural or, you know, just a message out to any adherents of a particular sect or religion . you know, it's very or religion. you know, it's very difficult when you've allowed , difficult when you've allowed, you of thousands you know, hundreds of thousands of people into country who of people into the country who follow a particular follow. well the already got in that . no, i'm the already got in that. no, i'm serious. i mean we've just it's just the 15 plots the problem . just the 15 plots the problem. no, no. but it's interesting that , you know, because no, no. but it's interesting that, you know, because not because 30,000 people are being watched security services very 30,000 station is going for mists. these station, the whole purpose stations, those people who came over with the iranian revolution, who were migrants, who were asylum seekers. yes. and we took them and they have contributed to our society . and contributed to our society. and we are here . protect them now. we are here. protect them now. they're british. yeah. so they're british. yeah. so they're also part of that equafion they're also part of that equation that you're talking. well yeah, of course. of course . that just shows, you know, when, when you allow, you know, influxes people into a influxes of people into a country, you difficult to tell
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you who what the genuine deep rooted beliefs of people are they going to be like these people and prove freedom and against iran's terrorism or are they going to be supportive of it and going to be trying to kill salman rushdie? well that's the core base dealt with. that's talk next that's talk about the next story that's on here. the tavistock children still referred. yes, the book is this seems incredible. is this seems incredible. this is ongoing. it was the ongoing. i thought it was the was meant to be closed. now it is there's 3000 people is closing. there's 3000 people still list, which still on the waiting list, which isn't surprising , still on the waiting list, which isn't surprising, is it, isn't that surprising, is it, that they'd still be so this that they'd still be a so this is the leftover kind , the is like the leftover kind, the dust settling . i wonder whether dust settling. i wonder whether some of the people that list will will change their minds while they're on it. well, this is it they say nine out of ten people, if they're left alone with normal therapy, will actually grow of it as opposed to hormones, which it to going hormones, which it seems have seems incredibly. you have children being children still being put on hormones by time. so even hormones by the time. so even though just come though books just come out revealing whole scandal, revealing this whole scandal, this is i mean. so maybe this is what i mean. so maybe some of parents of those some of those parents of those
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three 6000 have many three well, 6000 have many parents. maybe of are parents. maybe some of them are thinking, i'm not so sure about this, because the this, but because of all the politics maybe, maybe politics around it, maybe, maybe this a lifeline this is actually a lifeline for them. suddenly they're in the they're slowed up. they're having a to think about. having a chance to think about. but think gender ideology but i think the gender ideology are brainwashed they are so brainwashed, they will see as sort of see this as some sort of transphobic bigotry. you transphobic bigotry. and, you know, about other other know, we talk about other other cultures having like female genital we've got genital mutilation. we've got our child genital mutilation our own child genital mutilation here. this is this is a cult. this is a basically a religious cult. in this country to me cult. this in this country to me andifs cult. this in this country to me and it's shocking. i mean, late, late, you see nine out of ten children with gender dysphoria, puberty resolves and there are some who, you know, need to need to transition. and obviously they need to get the help and they need to get the help and the treatment they need for four nine of puberty resolves nine out of ten puberty resolves it unless you give them puberty blockers and then 96% go on to transition . yeah, it's transition. yeah, it's incredible. i mean the cancer poll or the interim cas report came out revealed these issues they were talking people who were there were talking about transition to gay away which is
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essentially yeah statement here andifs essentially yeah statement here and it's amazing that these people are still their jobs and people are still theirjobs and still yeah . carrying out this still yeah. carrying out this scandal at some level. the link to the last story mean in iran they've got the highest levels of transitioning in the world because being gay is illegal there. so you can get rome being gay by transitioning the government basically forces you to transition. i just find that mind blowing that a family would would find that anybody could come germophobe exercise the come up germophobe exercise the society have must people i mean to put somebody you love through all of that it's just astonishing . all right. let's astonishing. all right. let's move on to the observer leo. oh, yes. so this is more boring one to johnson . boris johnson to johnson. boris johnson threatening sunak's bid to end the deadlock over brexit. so and the deadlock over brexit. so and the tories and rishi have been getting a bit more ongoing . this getting a bit more ongoing. this is never going to . this is this is never going to. this is this is never going to. this is this is why we need climate change. we need sea levels to rise and just swarm every the whole of britain so won't even be an
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issue. i'll be happy just on a little floating raft just to not have this . even though the have this. even though the brexit wasn't done properly, it's . yeah, it's so insanely it's. yeah, it's so insanely dull, so basic . there's let's dull, so basic. there's let's talk about it more. there's there's the northern ireland protocol bill that allows the government to rip apart of the, of the northern ireland protocol , whereas rishi is bringing through this thing. that means that the european of justice is it would still have a final say over over parts of it or something. i mean, goddess is so tedious, but basically europe and russia are becoming clear because, you know, ukraine's brought europe and russia , brought europe and russia, europe and the uk together and. also, people are just becoming more sensible now you know what we're seeing the actual impact of brexit was this punk rock moment. we're like, let's it. and it's like, yeah, it's fun to do you know, people do that. but you know, people are a bit well, it's are a bit more, well, it's enough to also partly to me, enough to you also partly to me, like johnson's just sticking it. yeah, like joe johnson yeah, just like joe johnson
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doesn't rishi gareth wyn doesn't like rishi gareth wyn jones is in trouble from now. guide us through the sunday telegraph across the so refugee crisis charities as bad as smugglers . so this is a care for smugglers. so this is a care for calais we all know the charity that help people when they're coming to the uk. but that help people when they're coming to the uk . but our that help people when they're coming to the uk. but our friend lee anderson who's he's mentioned this before . yeah he's mentioned this before. yeah he's he's saying he thinks the charity's based on the french coast are acting as enablers so he's making the case that if you if you make it too good for people to come, they're going to keep coming. and i've got i feel like that's true because if you're encouraging people to get into boats. i it's into these boats. i mean, it's just horrific if these these charities are actually that. exactly. think teaching exactly. but i think teaching engush exactly. but i think teaching english then education english but then education a good thing, surely? no. i mean, they're not they're not just doing that, you know, getting them pathway used to get them into pathway used to get across the channel and when they get here they're lee anderson is one of the few politicians who's actually got the you know the
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cohort needs to come out and think what would work round here. it's going be ofcom complaint. but yeah, he's a great guy and he's he's one of the few politicians he sees this stuff and read it when they get here. it's not just the charities, human rights lawyers who mean, you never think who i mean, you never think they'd figure like the they'd become a figure like the bbc one used to see the game, the system there's a lot of money to be made in business. huge business. you'd them being sponsored by by, you know, butlins or whatever that you know it has really sort jumped into the public consciousness over last month or two. well because became deputy because it became deputy chairman. no but it chairman. no, no, no but it feels like he's in news feels like he's in the news quite lot not it's because he quite a lot not it's because he speaks truth he opens speaks truth every time he opens his mouth. okay that says leo kearse . right. that's the front kearse. right. that's the front pages. all the break on wanted tick sleuths bond villain dna and kamala harris points mighty finger at russia see that .
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you guys. welcome back to headuneis you guys. welcome back to headline is with me josh howey the big go to leo kearse and the big sheep cresta wetton that better it's no . okay. all right. better it's no. okay. all right. we still got few more sections to figure that one out. let's off this section out with sunday's leo should have too many tick tock has watching inspector morse. yeah looks like tick tock sleuths have sparked outrage after filming themselves digging up woodland close to where nicola billy vanished. this is the mother who disappeared . and ever since, she disappeared. and ever since, she just seems to vanished into. into thin air. so there's various , you know, people are various, you know, people are speculating onto what could what could have and people have been descending onto onto the area to try and solve it themselves . try and solve it themselves. like you said, i blame csi everybody thinks they're the miss marple and can solve a
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crime . so we do show . so it's crime. so we do show. so it's not it seems like maybe what about those true life podcasts? yeah there's a look. there's a lot of people we can we can and we'd like to speculate on that. but this this guy is a he's got a tick tock account called curtis. stuff doesn't . curtis. cool stuff doesn't. sound like the sort of person who solve a crime to be who could solve a crime to be honest on boxing thing so he wins to some house opposite the river and serves the cops as which is what people call a small number of woods. a small amount woods. and there's also beeni amount woods. and there's also been i mean, this this thing is attracted all kinds crank psychics and all kinds of body language experts, journalists. nobody likes them . so yeah. nobody likes them. so yeah. yeah. locals complaining about the litter as well. well, this the litter as well. well, this the i was going to say christopher with the list of the letter saying how all these these bodies were on the these bodies were first on the outside coming here outside is coming here and litter they've to pick litter and they've had to pick up litter but they themselves that could be clue well the litter not be litter well it might not be litter well it might not be litter that's why i'm saying well locals are picking up let's should get on this you are
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saying that people feel services maybe like that one local dog maybe i like that one local dog walker his name only walker who gave his name only john know john this john fumed. i know john this where this tick tock stuff is ridiculous. it's a lot people playing armchair detectives and speculating about things they know nothing about. did john have with it? have something to do with it? i don't know who you think out and oh gosh , john put them on the oh gosh, john put them on the list the observer next and cresta. have they discovered how to say doctor no to cancer to getting that they're getting that information ? i mean, that information? i mean, christie, you didn't laugh. well i to google bonneville and stephen try and understand it you don't make any bond i've never what i know austin powers so that's my knowledge of all that so that's do the headlines at least people at home might get the bond villain dna transform cancer treatment say so this discovery has been made in bits of genetic material as extra chromosomal dna or dna
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could revolutionise the treatment some of the most aggressive tumours. so this is good news. it comes after aggressive tumours. so this is good news. it comes afte r £20 good news. it comes after £20 million have been put to in a major initiative called the cancer challenges. so this is like what have you done with the money, guys? well this is what we've done. but i don't understand he's calling in understand why he's calling in bond analogy he's bond villains. the analogy he's saying something to with saying it's something to do with the that don't know you the fact that you don't know you don't what's going at don't know what's going on at first. and then these first. and then and then these things start up like bond things start to pop up like bond villains. might be because villains. it might be because they sort overexplain their plan and give james bond the and then give james bond the opportunity escape well, opportunity to escape. well, if only did. only they only they did. if only they allowed. some of cancer allowed. some sort of cancer prevention to into prevention treatment to go into every but they every cancer cell. but they don't. behave like don't. so they don't behave like bond that respect bond villains in that respect fact, which fact, they normally which bond villains typically in villains you know typically in each film it never ends with the bond succeed bond villains succeed there's also the one thing also a terrible the one thing they do do is they send basically henchmen so you see random happening the random things happening in the cell but this dna and cell but it's not this dna and this d so exists outside of the chromosomes it exists curled up
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so people don't see it when they're looking for you know the sort of dna assume i mean i'm talking about this stuff i talking about this stuff like i know i'm talking about, but know what i'm talking about, but so and it can so it's hidden and then it can appear as if the cell or the tumour is completely gone. the cancer has been completely eliminated. but because these curled up bits of dna are of the chromosomal strings or whatever it is and they're not detected. and then the cancer can come. thank you. i did not understand a word of that, but i did. i found it very authoritative. i've seen it . found it very authoritative. i've seen it. but it sounds like anyway that there's some news, so. that's pretty cool. so. yeah, that's pretty cool. the express now this message the sun express now this message seems a year late. cressida yeah. kamala harris warning to putin over against humanity in munich. speech so vladimir putin has been of a crime against humanity in ukraine. in a scathing speech , kamala harris scathing speech, kamala harris leaning on her career as a prosecutor , she said the united prosecutor, she said the united states had examined the evidence and determined that russia was
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guilty of crimes against humanity . well, she to think you humanity. well, she to think you have to a prosecutor to do that. i think it's a war, isn't it? i think even know that's not a good thing. yeah but some people fight well and wars and you know, the law the you know, know, be the law the you know, the the geneva the laws of the geneva convention, the rest killing convention, all the rest killing random people and bombing maternity stuff maternity hospitals and stuff like those spa days like that and all those spa days , guantanamo in the bingo , guantanamo bay in the bingo nights in abu ghraib. , guantanamo bay in the bingo nights in abu ghraib . it's about nights in abu ghraib. it's about three weeks so this is a non what about the ratio ? but is a what about the ratio? but is a hypocrisy here in that the icc, the international criminal court, they are the people who actually carry out these and russia is not of it and the united states is a part of it. so how are they going to actually hold these russians to account then? i don't know. but they have they have already had they've conducted criminal trials. in trials. russian soldiers in ukraine been doing it doing it for while now because for a while now because obviously they're taking a lot of lots of prisoners, you know, especially in ukraine took back a of its land and a lot of a lot of its land and but yeah i mean harris, you've
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got a super annoying voice. so even though , you know, i sort of even though, you know, i sort of agree with this, it's like that voice of . you hear the voice and voice of. you hear the voice and we've seen it, you know , we've seen it, you know, everyone, oh, you got a terrible oh, i find this commentary to the news. i think, oh on. if you're going to be like, all right, i've got an annoying voice. but you know, i'm not deputy president wherever is. deputy president or wherever is. i think she's got a great voice and finish this so in and finish this thing. so in sunday's mirror and leo the world at least we world may be but at least we won't to argue about won't have to argue about climate any so climate change any more so apparently world falling apparently world risks falling into climate do doom loop. into a climate do doom loop. isn't that a scottish village anyway? yeah. researchers from institute for public policy research . yeah, this is about research. yeah, this is about climate change and house said that the focus had shifted from the sort of how to deal with climate change. so how to reduce emissions, to keep the temperature rise under one and a half degrees and no we're just focusing on the short term issues. this is mass migration
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that it causes the spikes in food prices , food shortages. you food prices, food shortages. you africa, for example, is already losing up to 15% of its gdp a year due to global warming. i don't know how they know this. i i can see what you're going to get cleverer than you make do. they are they still i mean, they use the phrase doom loop. so i think that's a great phrase. i think that's a great phrase. i think i'll tell you with climate change, climate change itself isn't the problem isn't the problem. the problem isn't the problem. the problem is government . all you is government. well, all you need us all this power. need to give us all this power. you to give us all this you need to give us all this money power . you need to give us all this money power. deal you need to give us all this money power . deal with it. money and power. deal with it. no insanely powerful government is always dangerous for is always more dangerous for lives than you know , going to lives than you know, going to couple in the summer. it goes up like 20 degrees. we survive is there are all parts the world now that are massively suffering with climate change where they are having droughts whether they're having to storms, whatever, you know they are they're seeing excess of these things than they've ever had. there's parts of the world where you undo the buttons you can no undo the buttons anymore because of climate change. and change. so swings and
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roundabouts. well roundabouts. okay. well for those necessarily those people necessarily who live of live there, but because of the analogy was thinking of analogy that i was thinking of there, it seems like they're saying that the resource is like now to stay afloat it now see the to stay afloat it would it be otherwise used to get them to land and. the reason why i say that analogy is because thought it was quite clever . what do you because thought it was quite clever. what do you think? i think, i don't know. i mean, i'm not an expert, but they i looked at some some and the not plan is to get rid of coal powered of coal fired power stations in india until 2030. and they're still they're still building. what? so it's like if they are putting out fires here the bigger picture, the bigger stuff still going on, isn't it? so panic suddenly and so much so much of this stuff that the governments and climate will say we need to do like carbon capture. there's a report recently about there were the world's carbon capture company and carbon offset and companies and carbon offset and companies and apparently 96% of it was just wasted. it's all just it's a scam just designed to steal
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money from your pocket. change is real yeah but we're better the way that we're dealing with it there are we're better off just accept thing that is happening and you know buy some sunglasses in the meantime yeah t shirt we've now got doom loop to add to the we don't have to do this this is the sun sun mirror . if they really care they mirror. if they really care they will have printed it in a paper which uses valuable resources energy and people don't buy it. right. made the end of the right. we made it the end of the section please go anywhere. section and please go anywhere. i plus i am incredibly needy. plus you'll hot take on you'll miss my hot take on unconscious . maybe allow unconscious bias. maybe allow stellar off air until more on the roald dahl fiasco and leo be taking a measured approach to cyclists . i see that .
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i didn't realise you were such a big fan of tate. anyway, welcome back to headliners and sunday's guardian seems to be me. i
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wasted six evenings in lockdown on this training. cressida davies unconscious bias training is nonsense says outgoing race relations chair. so the chair of , the institute of race relations is on his way is still going to stay with the organisation but he's not doing the same anymore. so the chair sculpture now he's not going to be a sculpture going to be a he's going to be give me something else . the point is something else. the point is he's you'll love he's saying the unconscious bias training is not a good use of resources. he was working in the late seventies, early eighties, when there was a very volatile period when there was a lot more tension. and he , was a lot more tension. and he, like a lot of progress has been made. so quite positive made. so it's quite positive take but now he's he's not having it he thinks it's a cop out though it's a good way to let people off. so what do you think i mean is unconscious bias part of this whole critical race theory ? would you explain theory? would you please explain what to . yeah, i mean, i'm what it is to. yeah, i mean, i'm not an expert on critical race theory, but basically, you know, previously we've approached
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racism, obviously , you racism, which is obviously, you know, racism is bad, but we've approached it as as individuals doing a racist thing, whereas no racism is imbued within social structures and, organisations and all all the of it. so everything is racist you can't everything is racist you can't everif everything is racist you can't ever if you deny that it's racist, then you're a racist . so racist, then you're a racist. so you're caught in this sort of catch . i don't think that's catch. i don't think that's really what he's saying because he is arguing very much for. oh, no. saw in things like no. as we saw in things like those critical race. but those critical race. yeah, but we things like the police we saw things like the police well obviously the references well obviously the he references stephen was terrible stephen lawrence was terrible terrible and obviously you terrible crime and obviously you know there was systemic racism in the police work for police in the years after that and they've done a lot a lot of work to clear up but then because of the macpherson report public bodies and institution became incredibly fearful of appearing racist whatsoever and the fear of appearing racist does horrific damage all the victims of grooming gangs. one of the
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reasons those grooming gangs weren't is because authorities weren't is because authorities were afraid of looking racist to point that if social workers or people in institutions raised as an issue with their seniors, they sent on critical unconscious bias training or diversity training. so you know the fear nobody can have a horrible, terrible and understand that you know racism exists. but i think it's much, much better to treat it as something that an individual doesin something that an individual does in a in a specific instance, rather than seeing it's imbued within the atmosphere around us. yeah, i mean, but i guess part of this bias is the idea that we don't recognise what might be racist seen as being racist as well. yeah but i think everybody's got unconscious biases. yeah but i think everybody's got unconscious biases . whatever unconscious biases. whatever ethnicity you are or not and it's very difficult to . reverse it's very difficult to. reverse engineer the neural networks of somebody who's, you know, lived for 46 years and, you know, taken in all these experiences and perspectives. and, you know, i think this best 26, you you .
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i think this best 26, you you. i'm 29 so. well, yes very interesting the focus actually is sunday's times x and it might be time to head down to oxfam if you want some proper roald dahl. leo oh, my god. yes, this there's you. there's this sort of trend for reverse engineering. and since boring works of to all know, they've come after roald dahl. so his children's books, which are obviously know, fantastical and have really vivid imagery they've gone through them, is publisher puffin has made 100 of changes to these books to make them more palatable for contemporary readers, but more palatable for the for the guardian. reading parents of the kids just think the kids would prefer of original. so for prefer of the original. so for example, in the end example, augustus in the end charlie chocolate charlie and the chocolate factory isn't anymore. he's factory isn't fat anymore. he's enormous and so they give me a big fatty. that's what that is thatis big fatty. that's what that is that is very fat phobic. it should be called body positive or anti size. i think , you know or anti size. i think, you know . yeah. so miss trunchbull kind
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of a horsey face. she just as a face and they've even got rid of things like white. a sheet in case is racist against bed linen i've got no idea what still is a statue. surely that's going to be a problem in 10 minutes as well. statues aren't great. i think this is outrageous. i hate whenever editors and, people who think they know best come in and edit work of an artist. i mean, i grew up on his books and. yes, they're quite brutal, but that's they're quite brutal, but that's the point isn't it, kids can learn about rough the world learn about how rough the world is in avatar form rather than not learn about and then have a shock when they meet somebody nasty in real life. it just wants me. oh yeah. kids. the kids are fine with this because kids are fine with this because kids evil. so know. i think kids are evil. so know. i think it's only when you get a bit older you have to learn politeness and stuff. and the ego some ed ego the ego, some little ed puffin books to be like, oh, i better than roald dahl. what's he going to do? take phil tips to the mona lisa next. no, no, honestly, that's that's exactly. they don't trust the readers. they don't trust the readers. they don't? yeah. they don't think that are resilient
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think that kids are resilient enough about good and enough to think about good and bad what's appropriate bad and what's appropriate and what you only what isn't. well, if you only ever see good , whatever that is, ever see good, whatever that is, all seeing the sterile all you're seeing is the sterile . at all. yeah no, no, . nothing at all. yeah no, no, i'm completely. you the guy was a big old anti—semite, but i'm a big fan of his books. yeah, yeah. they shouldn't be. although changes have been made before the numbers before in terms of the numbers they've made they've they already had made a few ago, in terms of them few years ago, in terms of them being africa and what not being from africa and what not so but yeah, of these so but yeah, some of these changes seem to be obviously taking way far. right. the taking it way far. right. the telegraph next. and what kind of music are you into cresta stuff from all across the spectrum of genden from all across the spectrum of gender. absolutely oxford university press call for sheet broad, a broader spectrum of genden broad, a broader spectrum of gender. so they've they've put this message out saying composers who fall within the broadest of gender have been asked to submit work by a group asked to submit work by a group as part of work to improve diversity. you know me that okay 90 said for the nineties is from the nineties voices . well yeah
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the nineties voices. well yeah so it's the usual is an equality of outcome rather than equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunity . the see in the of opportunity. the see in the beginning which i am opposed to because i think it just means that once you start engineering these it means that you've always away the opportunity for proper glory. you know, i, you know, like, like before all this, anybody had the opportunity to be the next michael jackson or somebody really fantastic . and then once really fantastic. and then once you start messing about with this, it's like as long as you have an abusive father of work, you know, from the age of like, you know, from the age of like, you know, from the age of like, you know, if you if, say, are the next best mozart and you happen to be gender fluid or something , then now you're just something, then now you're just written up in history as well. you go in because there was a special call out for you stole a toilet. yeah. and also like michael is a great example because, you know, he started black man and, you know , looking black man and, you know, looking for more women to write sheet music. and he ended up being a white really? that's white woman. oh, really? that's that's for you. that's his journey for you. okay, . but i thought his
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okay, fair. but i thought his condescending because it seems to be somewhat suggesting that people of or people with people of colour or people with disabilities just haven't been sending their music but i.e. sending in their music but i.e. now we're going right now we're going you what are they going to ask you what are they been doing before? it made me think of nina simone because. she don't mean to be a she i don't mean to be a classical and she wasn't able to because race. very because of her race. and very clearly it then despite clearly it wasn't then despite all she was still so all of that, she was still so mighty. talent wins out . mighty. yeah, talent wins out. yes. does that ultimately staying with the telegraph and leo seems like a bishop is being christianity. so yeah . and this christianity. so yeah. and this bishop says that the way. christina right is it works . christina right is it works. okay fine. so online misogynists should meet victims instead of being jailed. according to the senior bishop, she says that misogynist if somebody has been misogynist if somebody has been misogynist online, they should. they should be confronted . they should be confronted. impact of that abuse by having to meet their victims instead of being sent to jail. i mean, it might work in some cases, but i can see it backfiring in some cases , you know, i mean, if some
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cases, you know, i mean, if some guys like some misogynist on twitter, then he gets to meet the victim. real life is like you want to you want to see this in real life, you know? i mean, it's going to be it could really backfire. is part of i backfire. but this is part of i mean, the bigger story is that the church of england is backing the church of england is backing the online bill, is the online safety bill, which is terrible can't terrible legislation. i can't even it just gives the government option to censor government the option to censor anything wants it's anything it wants because it's for safety. so anything that's legal but harmful, can be censored. defining harmful is incredibly is incredibly difficult. so, for example this week it was revealed the pictures of or footage of the migrant boats coming across the channel. they will be illegal. you won't able to publish them . you won't able to publish them. and this is to stop advertisers. so, you know, smuggling advertise on tik tok and they say you know use our our boat service to get to the uk so it's to stop that but really it'll stop it will stop gb news on it it'll stop charities being able to raise awareness of it and raise funds and help the help
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the people affected. so i think we well, there's a lot of agreement the dangers of the bill. but christa, in this specific case, what do you think about this idea of, a misogynist meeting, this is the problem i've written here. yes agree with this, but i still it still annoys. i think there's a real for this isn't there especially to reduce jail because there's a pubuc to reduce jail because there's a public purse saving prisons probably not going to stop you being a mum and god knows what you have to do to be so misogynistic. you end up in prison. yeah, not much in a few. yeah, but the idea is i think the point we're trolling and not just misogynistic is just misogynistic trolling is that of all, don't that people, first of all, don't see and they see the impact. yes. and they also necessarily it's also aren't necessarily it's very behave like that very easy to behave like that onune very easy to behave like that online when you're faced with the other being and they the other human being and they can you actually upset can tell you this actually upset me. genuinely scared my me. i was genuinely scared my life. you can't just block life. but you can't just block the person then you don't the person and then you don't see people all time. it's see people all the time. it's oh, well, even just some weeks later saying women are 27 times more likely to suffer suffer harassment from men, i'm
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probably thinking 25% is j.k. rowling directed towards her. so it seems those of what is more annoying women are very recently transitioned who are in some of like me. yes. okay. i'm going to save you on the next story is the male and exactly why i don't take my kids out to art galleries. also because i be bothered earlier. yeah. and the bonng bothered earlier. yeah. and the boring burn art this one's boring. an art collector is out of the $42,000 joke koons dog sculpture . that's a miami art sculpture. that's a miami art fair . after she tapped to see if fair. after she tapped to see if it was a balloon i mean and the fans it does look like a balloon it's designed to look like you don't want to touch. what about not touching the art? more than once thought was once you thought it was a balloon, a photo of a do balloon, a photo of a you do want to i want to touch on how hard that you touch it. i know, i mean, like an old lady was and she squeezes she must she just squeezes must she must have no hand—eye coordination. you know. not saying you should know. i'm not saying those they those because of gender. they knocked but then then knocked it off. but then then the piece turned out
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the destroyed piece turned out to most popular to be the most popular attraction. so maybe it's going to be the most popular attbe tion. so maybe it's going to be the most popular attbe like so maybe it's going to be the most popular attbe like banksy. be it's going to be the most popular attbe like banksy. you 's going to be the most popular attbe like banksy. you know,|g to be the most popular attbe like banksy. you know, he to be like banksy. you know, he had when it was sold. had that piece when it was sold. so, but there's some so, yeah, but there's some interesting this about jeff interesting in this about jeff koons. fame. he's become koons. he sort fame. he's become the artist, of the one of the artist, one of the one of the artist, one of the one of the wealthiest artists in the world, one of the most known, best known the world. best known artists in the world. he theme because. he had he sought theme because. he had a that was up for a child that was put up for adoption he didn't know adoption and he didn't know where so by being where the child was. so by being famous, could get with famous, he could get touch with his. easiest to do that? his. the easiest way to do that? well, i think for him, this job it worked out is an internet amazing. he's got quite a life hasn't so. right let's. hasn't either so. right let's. finish with the finish this section with the telegraph wolves in telegraph and the wolves in cyclists and is heating up cyclists and taxis is heating up cressida tells cressida fares taxi boss tells drivers vigilante cyclist drivers to vigilante cyclist with so i didn't know with cameras. so i didn't know about this this cyclist apparently going around looking out for cab drivers or drivers in general who using their in general who are using their mobile traffic so they mobile phone in traffic so they sound fun . there's going to sound fun. there's going to a point where this this. mr. macnamara is the drivers association chief. he's saying, look, you can see that these
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cameras are really weird because sort of 360 cameras. yeah and this guy he constantly posting stuff and they just they love it yeah they look yeah oh this is this is jeremy vine and every day he's posting stuff about bad drivers or not and they just really get off on it i mean that guy did cut right across is quite quite by driving some of this sort of go up to cabbies are sitting in traffic are just sitting in traffic doing going nowhere doing nothing going nowhere they're not going you know, they're not going to you know, no of a crash and. they no chance of a crash and. they film the just check film them because the just check the whatever is the phone whatever and is treated eyes of the law treated in the eyes of the law is the same as like looking at your you're doing on your phone you're doing 70 on the motorway. yeah but then to be fair, have 499 people be fair, we have also 499 people died so i harmed and 17 died in 2000. so i harmed and 17 killed from people on their phones. but you're saying that they maybe should be the discussion should be some sorry informality. i think if you're not moving, then there's really turn. obviously, it's terrible. i people when i'm driving to i see people when i'm driving to gigs, you you see cars gigs, you know, you see cars just out of lane just drifting out of the lane and stuff. the main issue and stuff. we've the main issue here, the cyclist is a swipe
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left. isn't that the main issue 7 left. isn't that the main issue ? you think yeah, i think ? you think so? yeah, i think that and that attitude, it's for not i don't like it when they've got all the you know they've got all that we're in the all the names that we're in the lycra like all the brand lycra with like all the brand names on and stuff like, like names on it and stuff like, like you've sponsored for your you've been sponsored for your commute in cycling three commute to work in cycling three miles you get you have phasers sponsoring you there it's i pfizer you're managing to bring in these like think know your betting was like every single cell of pfizer get vaccinated get boosted it's great fun and i go cycling that's it for this coming out less than ideal sperm donors less than ideal art appreciation and less than ideal dating advice. siena said .
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welcome back to headliners and starting us off in style in. the daily star is leo and it seems
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like i've been busted. yeah probably so. parents have discovered the sperm donor or use the sperm donor. donor then what i started is to implement use to get it and then use the fake meme to further six children and they discovered this after they met barbie . i this after they met barbie. i still the kids were bald with beards and the standard barbecue the west country . yeah this in the west country. yeah this in australia is the and the australian a plus community so this guy's through the whole community and giving them all give them all kids. community and giving them all give them all kids . well that's give them all kids. well that's boy does it i mean the that they were able to identify their values did they have like a massive nose or something. well it wasn't wasn't white. was it wasn't it wasn't white. was the giveaway that they got. so he's in trouble because he's is in trouble because didn't at first i was like, oh, isn't just a legend and is this another right for another man can't do right for
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wrong situation but apparently it's a because he was it's a problem because he was taking holidays and stuff from these families so he's getting paid. oh yeah which is that must be issue that's why. but it shouldn't be. no i suppose . well shouldn't be. no i suppose. well i mean it's also a sign of how desperate people are to have children and how they can easily they can be exploited and why we need this of regulation really. well, it's just so tempting them to think, oh, i can pay this dodgy bloke a few hundred quid. yeah, maybe he's good looking. i don't know. well yeah. especially a plus especially the lgbtq a plus community which is going to be a lot more of them once. and kids know that 33% in australia, 33% of identify as lgbtq i 33. of teens identify as lgbtq i 33. well going on holiday they're moving on the sun now. and krista, is this news the case on the upcoming remake of the little mermaid is this wow mystery of 300 year old mummified mermaid with creepy human face? it has got a very we going show, but it's got a very creepy face. no, no, no
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disgusting take it all. let's go back to that it's going to kill the and she said . oh if you eat the and she said. oh if you eat my flesh you know what it was wherever an ice cream is so and i was going oh man they want sushi you don't hear about sushi doing any lemon sorbet. okay. oh me this would you think it was a real mermaid. yeah. because the only reason . the reason they only reason. the reason they think this is a real they don't think this is a real they don't think this is a real mermaid is because recently this this university have done some sea tea scans and test did we need the scan ? if you poked it, it's the scan? if you poked it, it's made papier mache probably like elbow the sick child, the way so they could scan this weird thing but also they people have been praying to this and they for a couple weeks. yes. there's a shnne couple weeks. yes. there's a shrine built to it. they it was going to make them live forever . did it work exactly. well, that's why scanned it then, that's why they scanned it then, like, a minute, i've had
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like, wait a minute, i've had a scale from this thing and it didn't work. so it looked like madonna. i don't know. i'm i madonna. i don't know. i'm so i was not. amazed they to was not. i'm amazed they had to do some but it's not do some tests, but it's not real. sorry. no, real. real. yeah. sorry. no, real. well, that's very sad. and you saying the mermaids aren't really absolutely wow. really the. absolutely wow. okay. ofcom purposes, okay. well, for ofcom purposes, i do have to say to find mermaid. a mermaid are real. yeah. just don't want to get in that one of they finds manatees and capybara could be mistaken for mermaids. right. let's go to sunday's telegraph and sunday's telegraph next. and leo, this news is surely going to upset upsets a lot of losers out there . yes so metal out there. yes so metal detectorists face the end of the finders keepers rules still no you know unless i think unless it is gold or something you keep precious metal. yeah. unless it's precious metal. you could keep your 300 year old like a mermaid . yeah. i don't think mermaid. yeah. i don't think i would i would turn up on the scanner but and also metal detectorists are responsible . detectorists are responsible. 96% of britain's historical fines. so i think there should be some sort of incentive, some
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sort of financial recompense , sort of financial recompense, because otherwise the incentive is going to for be to keep it and not anybody or. sale and not tell anybody or. sale and not tell anybody or. sale and black market and but and on the black market and but no yeah they're not going to they're let metal they're not to let metal detectors their fines. no they're not to let metal dethat'ss their fines. no they're not to let metal dethat's true their fines. no they're not to let metal dethat's true because nes. no they're not to let metal dethat's true because ies. no they're not to let metal dethat's true because i think» if that's true because i think it's the the rule. it's the it's the rule. 5 minutes of fame, isn't it? they want to they want the credit. yeah. think they want the yeah. i think they want the treasure to be on the tv. but then the when the doubloons and do guys watch you seen do you guys watch have you seen the detectorists with mackenzie do you guys watch have you seen the deand orists with mackenzie do you guys watch have you seen the deand toby with mackenzie do you guys watch have you seen the deand toby jones?iackenzie do you guys watch have you seen the deand toby jones? no.3nzie do you guys watch have you seen the deand toby jones? no. that crook and toby jones? no. that seems to be why a lot of people have gotten into it. yeah. because of this tv series so trying to the job for trying to the police job for them going doing the solving missing people cases and this british television a lot to answer for next are going to have pundits giving their opinions uninformed opinions on late shows that's not good late night shows that's not good but but but it is amazing to see how much these people have actually found . and they seem to actually found. and they seem to be very bitter towards archaeology. yeah that i the archaeologist getting all the credit out there. oh they just turn archaeologists turn up with
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a paintbrush stick on the top of it and yeah , and some degree, it and yeah, and some degree, you know, go in the form polytechnic, these guys polytechnic, whereas these guys are like are actually out there like doing the do not over field. yeah you know all those banks yes i'm to take it up. right. good for you that is all stories for today but let's another quick reminder of sunday's front pages the mail on sunday. andrew fears will lose pages the mail on sunday. andrew fears will los e £30 million home fears will lose £30 million home the sunday telegraph johnson's warning to sunak on northern deal warning to sunak on northern deal. the observerjohnson deal. the observer johnson threat as sunak's bid to end deadlock over brexit. the times tv stations shut as iran's killers target staff. the daily star can't get to work today , star can't get to work today, chief. as i've been abducted by auens chief. as i've been abducted by aliens , britain's bosses can't aliens, britain's bosses can't get their job done because of extra terrestrials . now, thank extra terrestrials. now, thank you very much for joining us for tonight's show. and a big thank you to the big yak leo kearse and the big fox across the west. no none of that. you don't want to do not not enjoying of these
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big animals. fox is the best one yet. okay, fine. good headline. this is back tomorrow. andrew doyle wearing the tie. francis foster and myself . if you're foster and myself. if you're watching 5 am, repeat. good morning. around for the morning. stick around for the breakfast show .
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good evening, fellow travellers will come along once more to neil oliver live on gb news tv and on radio . tonight on the and on radio. tonight on the show i'll be joined from america by colonel douglas macgregor , by colonel douglas macgregor, and he'll give us his view on the situation regarding the ongoing war in ukraine. also in america , a train carrying america, a train carrying potentially dangerous chemicals derailed in ohio . potentially dangerous chemicals derailed in ohio. i'll be joined by an expert to assess the
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implications. by an expert to assess the implications . we'll ask why the implications. we'll ask why the government has abandoned its investigation into the mass death of shellfish off the northeast coast of england, which has badly impacted the fishing industry in that part of the country. plus two, fantastic great britain's tonight and plenty of chat with my panellists molly kingsley and greg swensen. but first, an update on the latest news from tatyana sanchez. neil, thank you and good evening. this is the latest from the gb newsroom, the uk says it's ready to support countries which can provide fighter jets to ukraine. countries which can provide fighterjets to ukraine. the prime minister made the commitment after addressing the munich security conference where he urged world leaders to act now and double down on military support . rishi sunak said the support. rishi sunak said the west responds to russia hasn't been strong enough and to win the war. ukraine needs more artillery , armoured vehicles and
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