hello and, welcome. this is calvin's common sense crusade with me at the reverend calvin on your tv online and on your wireless today be discussing the potential scrapping the northern irish protocol and. whether you think it's a betrayal of brexit i'll be exploring what led to nicola sturgeon's resignation and i'll be joined by the priest was acquitted after being arrested for a silent prayer outside an abortion centre and

of course bring you the very latest on the nicola bulley investigation. but first, here's the news with own armstrong . the news with own armstrong. good afternoon. it's 3:00. i am aaron in the gb newsroom and we do start with some breaking news from the last half an hour. lancashire police say a body has been found in the river wyre. they've searching for nicola bulley who disappeared from the area more than three weeks ago. police they can't yet confirm the body is that of the missing of two and they're working on formally identifying the body. they're currently treating the death as unexplained and, say her family has been informed about the latest development . about the latest development. more on that story as soon as we get it here at gb news. now, a cabinet minister says johnson's intervention on the ireland protocol is not because there is still plenty of to be done. mr. johnson's that scrapping the

bill would be a great mistake. comes a day after rishi sunak the european commission president said . they'd made very president said. they'd made very good progress on fixing problems with the post—brexit arrangements. the protocol bill introduced under mr. johnson , introduced under mr. johnson, the uk the right to ignore eu rules and the leader of the house of commons. penny mordaunt . that gives the government a stronger bargaining position . i stronger bargaining position. i think, you know, it's helpful to remind the eu that we have the northern ireland protocol bill, it's helpful to remind what those expected are and but i would also just say that, look, there are encouraging signs that there are encouraging signs that there is people are saying there's a lot more to do. but progress is being made. however, political commentator, dr. coulter says mr. johnson's intervention on brexit, his first since leaving office, could have serious ramifications . solving the protocol in

northern ireland guarantee the security of the peace process for, i would say, the next generation. now what boris has doneis generation. now what boris has done is really thrown a trojan horse into the political negotiations here . originally, negotiations here. originally, the protocol was always seen as the protocol was always seen as the european union punishing the uk for daring to democratically vote to leave the european union. so we've got to get a solution . the protocol , sir keir solution. the protocol, sir keir starmer says under circumstances will labour a deal with the snp . addressing a party conference in edinburgh , he urged scottish in edinburgh, he urged scottish voters to put their faith in labourin voters to put their faith in labour in the wake of nicola sturgeon's resignation , sir keir sturgeon's resignation, sir keir says he can bring the change scotland needs and the tide is turning on the tories and the snp . over 50 years in power. and snp. over 50 years in power. and what do they have to show for it? what do they have to show for it.7 honestly it's always somebody else's fault and reason

is simple . they're not truly is simple. they're not truly invested in scotland's anything scotland achieves within the uk is met with gritted teeth , seen is met with gritted teeth, seen as a roadblock to the one true goal as a roadblock to the one true goal. whatever happens in the coming months , my message is the coming months, my message is the same no deal under any circumstances . meanwhile, the circumstances. meanwhile, the leadership contest has its first two candidates. the scottish health secretary humza yousaf and the former minister ash regan have announced their decisions to stand . they did it decisions to stand. they did it earlier in the sunday mail. now they're potential candidates to replace nicola sturgeon include the finance , kate forbes and the finance, kate forbes and mary macallan . nominations were mary macallan. nominations were close on friday and the winner of the race will be announced the end of march . us secretary the end of march. us secretary of state has warned that china will face serious consequences

if it provides lethal military to russia. anthony blinken to the country's top diplomat yi. there are compose asian took place on the sidelines of the global conference in munich yesterday . the us believes yesterday. the us believes beijing is consider sending weapons and ammunition to russia , the war in ukraine. china denies that the musical program for the king's coronation been revealed. an anthem written by composer, andrew lloyd webber , composer, andrew lloyd webber, is one of 12 new pieces to be played during the ceremony. best known for musicals evita and jesus christ superstar amongst he is said to be incredibly honoured to have been asked . honoured to have been asked. greek orthodox music will also be on the playlist. that is a personal request by king charles as a tribute to his late father . this is gb news more all of our stories as and when they happen but now it's back to kevin .

kevin. hello and welcome to the common sense crusade. with me, the reverend calvin robinson. here's what's coming up. this afternoon. is the potential scrapping of the northern ireland protocol a betrayal of brexit.7 my political panel will join me to break the claims that former prime minister boris johnson could complicate the to get a deal on northern ireland. according to the sunday times says sunak would get a standard deal unless . he progressed with deal unless. he progressed with the northern ireland protocol bill. will it all go smoothly or are we headed for a constitutional crisis then? this week it finally happened . after week it finally happened. after eight years in power. nicola sturgeon resigned as first minister. the snp's already preparing to decide on her successor , but more importantly successor, but more importantly decide on exactly are they going to do about independence or not? i had a sit down with dr. david starkey on not just the history

but the future scottish independence . and later on, a independence. and later on, a priest who was arrested for silently praying of birmingham abortion centre walked free from court after criminal were dropped by the and got held up a sign saying praying for free speech outside and had a sticker on his car which read i'm born. lives matter. he will join me later on in the show. and of course, you can join in of our discussions emailing gb views discussions by emailing gb views at gb news .uk or by tweeting at gb news. dashboard dashboard . gb news. dashboard dashboard. but before that, the police searching for missing mother of two nicola bulley say they have discovered a body in the river wyre near to where she went missing . gb wyre near to where she went missing. gb news wyre near to where she went missing . gb news reporter missing. gb news reporter catherine forster me in the studio now. what more can you tell us, katherine? very sad news this afternoon from . news this afternoon from. lancashire police. so they put

out a statement in the last hour saying that a body has been found. of course that nicola bulley disappeared and a half weeks ago , seemingly vanished weeks ago, seemingly vanished without . trace having dropped without. trace having dropped her to girls at school, taking the dog for a walk and it been a huge mystery that's an enormous search going on. but in the last half hour, a statement by lancashire , they say this lancashire, they say this morning, sunday, 19 february. you may aware of police activity around the near to st michael's . we want to provide you with an update that activity. we were called today at 11:36 am. to reports of a body in the river close to rawcliffe road. an underwater search team and specialist officers have subsequently attended the entered the water and have sadly recovered a body. no formal identification has yet been carried out, so we are unable to

say whether this nicola bulley at this time . procedures to at this time. procedures to identify the body are ongoing . identify the body are ongoing. we are currently treating death as unexplained . nicholas family as unexplained. nicholas family have been informed of developments and our thoughts are with them . this most are with them. this most difficult of times . we ask that difficult of times. we ask that their privacy is respected, so important to say the body not been identified , but clearly the been identified, but clearly the body has been found close to where nicola went missing and course the family the police have all along said they suspected that she had fallen the river, but family had been calling in to the idea that she might have gone elsewhere and that she might in fact be alive and have been appealing for her return. so this is obviously incredibly upsetting news . no incredibly upsetting news. no doubt we will have more developments later today. okay,

catherine forster thank very much. we will keep you updated on now. boris johnson has warned rishi sunak that ditching the northern protocol bill in of a new brexit deal would cause great mistake. the deal being proposed would apparently make ecj the ultimate arbiter of disputes about eu law that emerged from northern ireland. while some see this as the only way to break deadlock, some are saying that if we still have a foreign government governing part of our country, we have a foreign court with jurisdiction that. an awful lot of us would find it very, very hard to find to support it. so is this the smartest and most logical way forward or is rishi the union or indeed brexit? joining me now is policy researcher laurie laban and broadcaster darren. good afternoon to you both. thank you for joining us on this sunday. darren, i'll start with you if you don't mind. do you agree with boris johnson that scrapping the northern ireland protocol would a great

protocol bill would a great mistake? yes. mean, the bbc's mistake? yes. i mean, the bbc's brussels correspondent earlier tweeted that she understands that the eu won't move ahead with rishi sunak proposed reforms unless there is a commitment to actually drop the northern ireland protocol bill. if you ask me, calvin, this shows that the don't actually give a about ireland or about the belfast agreement. it's always been about damaging the interests of the united kingdom to make brexit look on to the remaining eu 27 by effectively subjugating unionist in northern ireland. i actually think boris johnson's is a helpful one because it remains eu and the government that the northern ireland protocol bill there for a reason. it was designed for a reason and the reason is really quite simple. it gives our country an alternative because if we don't all we can do is accept the eu's gruel. the eu would us over a barrel keeping

augned would us over a barrel keeping aligned to waste and a constituent part of our country under the jurisdiction of a foreign. and i don't know about you, kelvin , but that isn't what you, kelvin, but that isn't what i had in mind . you, kelvin, but that isn't what i had in mind. i you, kelvin, but that isn't what i had in mind . i voted you, kelvin, but that isn't what i had in mind. i voted for brexit. it's this all i'm like in the footage showed there of bofis in the footage showed there of boris johnson in a as if they're entering the battalion. laurie is about restoring trust i think it's about boris johnson's career ambitions, actually. i think him weighing in at this time there to sort of drive a bit of a wedge that gets a number of people in his own thinking that he's the kind of guy that they want to go for as leader again. so if we if we're questioning the eu motivations, i also think we should be questioning johnson's motivations as well . oh, always. motivations as well. oh, always. but the problem here is the northern ireland protocol, isn't it? it's important because it's our bargaining chip the eu our bargaining chip with the eu . well is it our biggest bargaining chip? i mean, there are very complex layers of negotiations here, of which there will be a give and take

when it comes to things, you know, from what i've been reading, the eu has been more relaxed on some of the customs checks that might be happening because, example, of because, for example, of a commitment more commitment to have more real time provided by the side. time data provided by the side. so there's a lot of to and fro that will be going on around the negotiating table. the idea that there's this kind of big, you know, nuclear button to and that that will have some kind of sway over the eu. it's bit debateable when you look back at the track record of some of the negotiations that we saw over the last few years that maybe didn't work out so well for the country. and darren, i think laurie, makes some interesting points mean, points about boris. mean, he might but should we might be right, but should we him. his motivations ? him. what are his motivations? what . darren him. what are his motivations? what. darren grimes . now for what. darren grimes. now for a second that boris johnson is ultimately in. boris johnson . ultimately in. boris johnson. but when you've got the likes of ursula von der leyen saying, well, actually, unless rishi sunak's this protocol bill were

not going to go forward and give rishi sunak a few tweaks here and a few declarations, they ultimately. calvin, the problem is that there shouldn't be any deference the paperwork required between moving goods from darlington , dagenham than there darlington, dagenham than there is actually in sending goods from, say, bristol to belfast. there shouldn't be difference there whatsoever . and i think i there whatsoever. and i think i listened to the remarks and, you know, there is something to be said about. northern ireland being a of negotiation. i don't doubt that for a second. but with the current set of second stunts with the northern ireland, as it as it is right now. the only community are getting what they want is the nationalist community, the unionist community, not a single unionist community, not a single unionist member parliament or the member of the assembly, stormont supports the northern ireland protocol. the nationalist want a northern border while unionists don't want a border down the irish sea

. that's all that they've asked for. kelvin it isn't the democratic unionist party that's asking for this . it is, as i asking for this. it is, as i say, not a single elected representative of any unionist party in northern ireland. does that not tell you everything that not tell you everything that you need to know. and that is the point, though, isn't it, laurie, that we can't surely we cannot have a border within our country and our country is the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. how can anyone suggesting that's anyone be suggesting that that's anyone be suggesting that that's a ? of course i a reasonable option? of course i sympathise that view. i you know, i want the uk to be the full entity that is and should be but huge were opened up when . brexit happened and it requires a lot of complex negotiation which will end up with compromises to try and make that work which i'm sure what we all want to make sure happens and if we you know, we've just been seeing more pictures of bofis been seeing more pictures of boris up there. one of the

problems that we experienced of johnson was prime minister is that have huge that he to have this huge disregard , those complexities. disregard, those complexities. so those complexities and it meant that, yeah , we're not meant that, yeah, we're not talking about compromise, that completely undercuts uk interests. not at all. but his desire not to go anywhere near that.in desire not to go anywhere near that. in fact, at times say that he was going to do one thing and then another thing happened just. just it's a level of unseen seriousness that doesn't work to handle are hugely complex situations but but are looking at the bigger picture here it's not in the eu's best interest to make this work it because essentially the problem we're facing is because great britain is an island right. but if country within the if a country within the continental europe decides to the eu listing italian brexit the eu is listing italian brexit or it takes it or whatever to call it, or or the french or the whoever wants to leave what have the exact same problem when they . oh, absolutely. 100. i mean the eu is a very good and tough, robust negotiator. colvin from the bottom of my heart, i wish

the bottom of my heart, i wish the united kingdom would be equally as robust in defending our own interests as the eu does theirs. if they are utterly ruthless . but when you've got ruthless. but when you've got the high court in belfast concluded that the protocol doesn't put the people of northern ireland on an equal footing, that's their words, not mine with those in the rest of the uk that directly impacts and intervenes with the act of union. and if rishi sunak is the prime minister of united kingdom of great britain , northern of great britain, northern ireland, and let's forget the leader of the conservative and unionist party , then he cannot unionist party, then he cannot support measures that directly impact and intervene with the act of union it's in the eu's interest to those unable to from the eu rules and regulations. that's what they want are using northern ireland a pawn in their game to keep the united kingdom from being competitive from . the from being competitive from. the rest of the eu27 and i think you

don't have to be you know lord alan sugar to be able to call that kind of negotiation . it's that kind of negotiation. it's pretty obvious to most what's going on here . any new going on here. any new arrangements should ensure that there are absolutely no barriers between northern ireland and its market, which isn't the eu . market, which isn't the eu. calvin but the rest of the kingdom. that's what's really important because you cannot ultimately have the belfast agreement if you have the protocol politicians have got to decide one they want. if they want peace on the island of ireland, then the protocol has to go . i mean, darren makes some to go. i mean, darren makes some fantastic points. laurie and just to circle back around to this conversation, regardless where you sit on brexit, the deal that rishi sunak is supposedly about to strike with the eu, see the ecj become the ultimate arbiter of disputes between britain and the rest of the eu on northern ireland. don't think that would don't you think that that would a betrayal of brexit? i think it

depends what sort of layers of arbitration and the levels of arbitration and the levels of arbitration you have to say that they're the ultimate arbitrator doesn't necessarily mean that you get to that point in the context of all these international disputes . it will international disputes. it will be you can have layers of i don't know how they do this with different but layers before ultimately goes to that point. so we may be in a situation where if there's favour between nafions where if there's favour between nations and regions that you do end up not ultimately getting that kind of point. but again, these, these are the even if you do get to that point, these are the huge complexities from the erupted from the brexit moment and the fact that there is a land border between an eu and now in this case in an eu state and so difficult to try and sort out. and i get idea that you know you in a certain way to try and influence your opponent and that's happening from both sides pursuing it go saying we're sorry but the end of the day it's going to have to come down

pretty complex, pretty technical that hopefully make this work for, everyone. well thank you very much liking the new background by the way darren that was policy researcher laurie labour and broadcaster darren thank both laurie labour and broadcaster daryour thank both laurie labour and broadcaster daryour time thank both laurie labour and broadcaster daryour time today. k both laurie labour and broadcaster daryour time today. plenty)oth laurie labour and broadcaster daryour time today. plenty more for your time today. plenty more to afternoon on my common to come. afternoon on my common sense up. after sense crusade coming up. after eight in power, nicola eight years in power, nicola sturgeon resigned as first minister. snp is already minister. the snp is already preparing to decide on her successor , more importantly successor, but more importantly decide what exactly they're going about . i decide what exactly they're going about. i had a sit going to do about. i had a sit down with dr. david starkey on just the history but the future of scottish independence. but first as a short break season you've probably seen politic as interviewed a thousand times but we do it differently . we find we do it differently. we find out who they really are. we don't shout. we chat and. hopefully we bring a bit of light not just heat. did you think it was apparently . do you think it was apparently. do you have a pair of jeans or a. because i did . what would i do because i did. what would i do with them? friends. why? oh, my god. was she doing now? join me every sunday at six for gloria

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channel welcome back to the comments crusade. with me kelvin robertson on, your tv online and on your wireless . this week's on your wireless. this week's political shockwaves from boot house in edinburgh are still reverberating across the united . after eight years in power, nicola has resigned as first minister and the snp has already preparing to decide on her successor and importantly to decide what they are going to do about independence . with the about independence. with the latest polling of . scottish latest polling of. scottish voters in the past week putting labour just voters in the past week putting labourjust behind voters in the past week putting labour just behind the voters in the past week putting labourjust behind the snp in general election voting intentions , you could argue

intentions, you could argue support for independence is waning. i down with dr. david starkey to get thoughts on nicola sturgeon's downfall . nicola sturgeon's downfall. david commentators are saying that her decision to go for broke on woke has been nicola sturgeon's downfall . why do you sturgeon's downfall. why do you think she doubled down the trans issue ? everybody sort of says, issue? everybody sort of says, isn't it odd? isn't strange? what on earth does she she's doing? i've got very different take on this, kelvin i think going for work is absolutely fundamental to sturgeon and to the particular kind nationalism that she and bryce see what is generally the case. i mean, come on, you , you and i, you are on, you, you and i, you are putting things in big pictures at various of the political spectrum. where does nationalism normally belong? it belongs very at the right of the political spectrum. but scottish nationalism has decided to play a different game. it talks about civic nationalism . it's

civic nationalism. it's determined to distinguish itself . anything beastly and old fashioned and sway stick rather like english national ism. so what you do is you , the left. what you do is you, the left. and the further the left goes , and the further the left goes, the more you've actually got to embrace it. and this of course is, in one sense, really quite clever. you, as it were. you take some nationalism a taint which with today's politics is seen as dangerous shoving it out on the far right as kind of thing that we most people disapprove of. but on other hand it means the less boundary goes further and further and further and further have to go further and further have to go further and further. well mean. and so what done we've seen woke as mayor and the emperor of course the preposterous of secularism . the preposterous of secularism. and what i would like to call it a textualism we see this as

something accidental. it's not it's fundamental. it's to the enterprise. it's going to be very interesting to see actually not. i mean, sturgeon's out of it by simply disappearing . it by simply disappearing. clearly what happened ? she found clearly what happened? she found the contradictions absolutely impossible . the question is impossible. the question is whether the movement can escape from the position that it finds itself in because . it's not just itself in because. it's not just her. i'm and simon was playing exactly the same game so they've used it as a differentiating which makes sense. but how popular it has been on the decline for years now. do you think that's linked that? and also, do you think she jumped before was pushed? i think that the i mean, the decline in in one sense is simply the standard remark , isn't it, all political remark, isn't it, all political careers and failure even left of god . it's like nicola sturgeon . god. it's like nicola sturgeon. she's been a very long time . she's been a very long time. she, of course, embrace not simply the one, but we will get

a referendum now . and she failed a referendum now. and she failed to do that . and the great to do that. and the great problem has been, course, that the pursuit of this will of the wisp , on the one hand, a civic wisp, on the one hand, a civic narrative ism and the other will of the wisp of an immediate referendum on independence has meant other side is you neglect bonng meant other side is you neglect boring really rubbish of government. and i think there's another reason why. because course this attempt to squeezing the very diverse of scottish nationalism into this strange corner of woke nationalism means that you can't actually agree anything. if you if you look the whole range of success, you know, from a radical feminist like terry to a fundamentalist christian, you you have the sense of a fundamentally into human movement . and that is the human movement. and that is the point, isn't it? i wouldn't go as far you as calling her a goddess. i'd probably refute. however, she has been the longest first minister

longest serving first minister right . the study on david. i right. the study on david. i don't . i right. the study on david. i don't. i agree on either term. however is the longest serving first minister and she is election winner. but she's been very poor on domestic issues. what do you think her legacy will be? well, i think the legacy is failure. and i think my guess is pity historian profit is a terribly dangerous role . but what she's done is role. but what she's done is left the movement in a fundamental and serious dislocate for the future, for it is not at all clear. dislocate for the future, for it is not at all clear . and i think is not at all clear. and i think there's something else. it's not simply by pretending scottish nationalism is peculiar. simply by pretending scottish nationalism is peculiar . that nationalism is peculiar. that wing what you have to do to do that you actually to trash the entire history of scotland. scottish nationalism. on the one hand, like most pretends to be the fulfilment, the natural destiny of the history of scotland . but the only way you scotland. but the only way you can do that is by denying the

most seriously and, extraordinarily successful penod extraordinarily successful period of scottish history, which union with england . if you which union with england. if you compare, maggie and early modern scotland , extraordinarily poor , scotland, extraordinarily poor, more than poor in, violent and, marginal society in europe , marginal society in europe, transforming itself extraordinarily, very , very few extraordinarily, very, very few years from union in the early 18th century into one of the centres of european enlightened industry of trade , all of it, of industry of trade, all of it, of course, through the unmentionable, the participe in the british empire. by pretending that scottish nationalism, scottish identity , nationalism, scottish identity, it is naturally to the left , you it is naturally to the left, you will, of course, ignore the central , central fabric of your central, central fabric of your history . you also, of course, history. you also, of course, because you can going the left, you're playing the game of being the victim . the one thing that the victim. the one thing that scots, when it is victims, scotland was never colonised by

england . so you create this england. so you create this brave army which is the absolute and physicist of the greatness of , the glory of scotland, which of, the glory of scotland, which was part of union and even the most striking thing of all, when you go up to scotland and you look at these great monuments of industry the great universities, the scientific achievements. these are the triumphs. what that the triumphs of the british empire. the scots was some of them arguably the scots were more important as the imperial administrators , as administrators, as industrialists, as as engineers, as doctors than the english, the british was at least as scottish as english. david starkey, thank you so much for your contributions. i really appreciate it. a pleasure pleasure . on her resignation pleasure. on her resignation said she believed part serving well would be to know almost instinctively the time is right to step down adding in my head and in my heart. i know that the

time is now . that is right for time is now. that is right for me and, my party and for the country . you are with gb news on country. you are with gb news on tv, radio and online and coming up, a priest who was arrested for silently praying outside a birmingham abortion clinic walked free from of the criminal charges were dropped for the show and held a sign saying praying for free speech outside and had a sticker in his car which said unborn lives matter. he will join me after the break. now it's time for a check on those news with karen armstrong . it's 332. i'm brian armstrong in the newsroom. lancashire police say a body has been found in the river wyre. they have been for nicola bulley, who from the area more than three weeks ago. police say they can't yet confirm if the body is that of the missing of two and they're working on formal identification . they're currently treating the dasani explained and say our family's been of the latest

development . a cabinet minister development. a cabinet minister says boris johnson's intervention on the northern ireland protocol is not unhelpful . mr. ireland protocol is not unhelpful. mr. johnson's warning the that scrapping the bill would be a great comes a day after rishi sunak and the european commission president ursula von der leyen said they'd made good progress on fixing problems with the post—brexit trading arrangements . the trading arrangements. the protocol bill introduced mr. johnson gives the uk the to ignore eu rules. johnson gives the uk the to ignore eu rules . and leader of ignore eu rules. and leader of the house of commons penny mordant, believes that gives the government a stronger bargaining position . i think it's helpful position. i think it's helpful to remind the eu that have the northern ireland protocol whole bill. it's helpful to remind them what those expect are and. but i would also just say that, look, there are encouraging that there is a people are saying there's a lot more to do. but progress is being made , sir keir progress is being made, sir keir starmer says under no

circumstances will labour do a deal with the snp . addressing deal with the snp. addressing a party conference in edinburgh, he urged scottish voters to put their faith in labour in the wake of nicola sturgeon anne's resignation. sir keir labour can bnng resignation. sir keir labour can bring the change scotland needs and the tide is turning on the tories, the snp . meanwhile, tories, the snp. meanwhile, scottish health humza yousaf and former minister ash regan have announced they're in the race to replace nicola sturgeon as the leader of the snp. revealing plans in the sunday mail. they're the first to declare their for the contest . their for the contest. environment minister marie mccallion has now said she's not standing . but finance secretary standing. but finance secretary kate forbes is still thought to be a possible . tv online and be a possible. tv online and dab+ radio . this is gb news. dab+ radio. this is gb news. don't anywhere though calvin is back in just a moment.

welcome back to the common sense crusade. with me, the reverend calvin on your tv online and on your wireless . this week, your wireless. this week, catholic priest father sean cox and charity volunteer isabella vaughan spruce were acquitted of all charges being arrested for silently praying within an abortion. censorship zone. in a video that went in december, vaughan spruce is seen being arrested by a pair of police after admitting she might praying inside her head outside an abortion clinic in birmingham . and father sean was arrested for silently praying within the same census zone whilst holding up a sign read praying for free speech. however, the were dropped after both cases were not to meet the full code test for prosecutors and. father sean joins me now as well as

barrister and legal counsel for adf, uk lorcan price for sean. and first of all, i hope i'm saying your surname righteous. if god could go go god . if god could go go god. fantastic. glad to hear it . fantastic. glad to hear it. whilst this verdict is undoubtedly a huge relief for both of actually and for you and isabel, how is it that two people have been arrested and to court for silently in the 21st century britain ? it should go century britain? it should go without saying that nobody should be criminalised or the thoughts that they've gotten. never mind . or for saying never mind. or for saying prayers public street. but sadly is exactly what happened to me . is exactly what happened to me. i'm relieved to have been my name cleared, but the reality that these situations could continue for people because these censorship zones which stop thoughts and viewpoint and even ban prayer, these thoughts andideas even ban prayer, these thoughts and ideas are still in place . and ideas are still in place. and whilst been cleared, you

know the whole process that i've been through almost was a form of punishment in its own right. yeah and people will ask the question, you know, prayer is not proximate. why did you choose to and pray where you prayed? well i'm a catholic. and for catholic priests and for catholics in general , faces have catholics in general, faces have a great significance . you know, a great significance. you know, we pray in a church we pray in a shnne. we pray in a church we pray in a shrine . why? because jesus shrine. why? because jesus became god when he chose to become a human being and to time into space. so for me, praying into space. so for me, praying in places of significance is important . and for me, the important. and for me, the greatest justice issue of our time is abortion . over 10 time is abortion. over 10 million babies have lost their lives and been lawfully killed since abortion was legalised this country. and that's a great tragedy. and so praying that the unanswered abortion centre is a place of great significance for me . pray there and it's that's

me. pray there and it's that's really personally important to me as well . well it will come as me as well. well it will come as surprise to you that i tend to agree with you, but i talk to luke and while you fix your connection, father sean looking many people will put forward the suggestion that the council's say that these people are in place to prevent women from from being harassed in and around abortion centres. what do you say that harassment is say to that. well, harassment is already against the law in country and nobody is advocating for harassment or obstruction . for harassment or obstruction. what these bills do is far though, and they give local authorities power to prohibit certain that are otherwise lawful. such consensual conversations between adults and the public place. as father sean said, praying, praying. silently praying your head. providing and so on. and they are quite large . i think a lot of people listening may think that we're about directly outside the door of an abortion clinic, but for example, the censorship zone in

extends for over 200 yards around the and down the public thoroughfare . so that's larger thoroughfare. so that's larger than a stadium and within that own, then have an extraordinarily broad range of things that are prohibited in quite an outrageous way when you think of the right to freedom of assembly, freedom of speech and freedom of religion as well. well, i mean great answer, but i think you're already conceding too much ground in answering my question admitting that question because admitting that prayer prayer prayer could harassment prayer is harassment. so certainly is not harassment. so certainly not that. saying not admitting that. i'm saying that if there is harassment, it can be it is prohibited already under speaker does under the law. what speaker does it far further and it it goes far further and it creates a censorship. so essentially around an abortion clinic entirely clinic that is entirely unnecessary considering the way the law already stands and is really quite obtrusive and oppressive of people like father sean and isabel who engage in perfectly reasonable and perfectly reasonable and perfectly otherwise lawful activities. and what i understand is that father shaw wasn't actually praying about abortion , the time he was abortion, the time he was praying about free speech. right exactly. yes. so, mean it gets exactly. yes. so, i mean it gets you layers of absurdity

you get to layers of absurdity with these censorship zones where challenging where actually challenging praying free speech within praying about free speech within the zone is the censorship zone is criminalised by centres of criminalised by the centres of tone so we're we're we're tone. so we're we're we're seeing some things that you see in like hong moscow in places like hong kong moscow where arrest where the authorities arrest people blank pieces people for holding blank pieces of which is conceivably a of paper which is conceivably a crime within the crime as well within the centuries so why were crime as well within the cen'charges so why were crime as well within the cen'charges dropped?1y were crime as well within the cen'charges dropped? well,e crime as well within the cen'charges dropped? well, in the charges dropped? well, in this case the crown prosecution service said didn't have sufficient , but they sufficient evidence, but they kept open the option to bring the charges again. so in the letter they sent to father sean and isabel they allowed themselves this is the crown prosecution service, the right to bring the proceedings again. but sean and isabel both have a right to have their right under the to have their day court the matter day in court to have the matter brought a magistrate, to brought before a magistrate, to put prosecution put the crown prosecution service in their spot for in service on in their spot for in this case and to say whether or not evidence. and here not they have evidence. and here they didn't they decided to pursue the case and the judge quite rightly returned a not guilty verdict for both of them. all right. thank you very much. we can't father back, we can't get father sean back, unfortunately. end the unfortunately. so we'll end the segment thank you so

segment there. but thank you so much for your thank you and also thank mr. mrs. price your thank to mr. or mrs. price your parents for watching bit parents for watching them a bit of shout there. it's of a shout out there. it's interesting whenever we interesting that whenever we talk about we talk about this, we have technical this technical glitches and all this kind of stuff. so please do pray for there is a spiritual war going here. it's important going on here. it's important that prayers are sent out that your prayers are sent out there. you for father there. so thank you for father sean, vaughan, spruce sean, isabel vaughan, spruce and. catholic and. that was the catholic priest. sean priest. father sean and barrister legal counsel. edf barrister and legal counsel. edf uk price to react to all uk lorcan price to react to all that author and broadcaster my wife trouble herself read hello rebecca. hi calvin. how first of all, what are your general thoughts on everything you just heard ? i think about the people heard? i think about the people in this conversation have not beenin in this conversation have not been in the situation where they've been to an abortion clinic either for an abortion or for any other kind of health care provided in the in for any other kind of health caresame provided in the in for any other kind of health caresame building.i in the in for any other kind of health caresame building. and he in the same building. and therefore, i'm not sure they're fully aware of how vulnerable you moment and how you are. and moment and how intimidating these can intimidating of these things can be. and i've seen a real barrier if behaviour outside of clinics

from relatively calmly praying and holding a rosary to aggression. and i think it's a much cleaner simpler must of all such asi much cleaner simpler must of all such as i just don't do it. as you said, prayer is not proximate. you can pray at home or anywhere else. but even if you that protesting should not be allowed around clinics, which i would disagree with even if you think that surely you don't think prayer is protesting ? i think prayer is protesting? i don't think you're i don't think you're intellectually dishonest to pretend that you actually that people are standing directly facing an abortion clinic , demonstrably praying . clinic, demonstrably praying. and that is in no way an attempt to demonstrate to anybody entering the clinic that they are praying . but you've just are praying. but you've just heard that this these areas are massive. so it's not just stunning. opposite the clinic you've been standing, miles from the and you're still the clinic and you're still within censorship within that stop censorship zone. a case zone. so it's not a case harassment. surely it says have they and also again, they been? and also again, whether it's 50 feet or like why? on earth? wouldn't you why? why on earth? wouldn't you be able from anywhere be able to pray from anywhere else? is the purpose of doing it

directly in front of or within exclusion if to exclusion zone, if not to protest it? and mean , isabel's protest it? and i mean, isabel's not here today, but i know if she was here, she would say that it's about prayer. it's it's not just about prayer. it's about fact that you should about the fact that you should be able to be not just to protest, to provide counsel advice, might advice, literature that might help women better help these women make a better decision, a different decision on thing you need on book. the last thing you need is somebody is not in that is somebody who is not in that position , does understand position, does not understand your trying give you your decision. trying give you a leaflet and also the misinformation in the pamphlets given out is extra ordinary. the best thing these people could be doing would be going and running crash for free, accessible childcare that might actually help somebody be able to make a different decision . but also a different decision. but also a lot of the time it's not even you need to make a difference. it is that you don't to be pregnant and you don't have to be pregnant. if this isn't be pregnant. and if this isn't your earth, would your religion on earth, would your religion on earth, would you bound by it. you need to be bound by it. well, a life and death, so well, it's a life and death, so it's much deeper than that. but i do have to apologise for rebecca's language. we're rebecca's spicy language. we're not wootton tonight is not on dan wootton tonight is know watershed thank

know pretty watershed but thank you author and you rebecca that's author and broadcast let's broadcast by rebecca reed let's to story hour . the to the top story this hour. the police for a missing police searching for a missing mother of nicola bulley have discovered body in the river wyre near where she went missing. the 45 year old vanished and st michael's on the wire while walking her dog. three weeks ago. she just dropped her daughters, aged six and at school . dropped her daughters, aged six and at school. in and nine, at school. in a statement, lancashire police this morning sunday 19th of february. you may be aware of police activity around the river near to st michael's. we to provide you with an update on that activity. we will call today at 11:36 am. to reports of a body , the river wyre close of a body, the river wyre close to rawcliffe road. an underwater search and specialist officers have subsequently the scene entered the water and have sadly recovered a body . joining me now recovered a body. joining me now is peter blakeslee , former is peter blakeslee, former metropolitan police detective . metropolitan police detective. peter what's your reaction to today's developments . hello, today's developments. hello, peter. what are your reactions

to these developments . it looks to these developments. it looks like peter called him at the moment. sorry about that, peter. we'll get back to you later, if we can. let's have a look at what you guys have been saying to us, the subject of some emails been sending in on the northern ireland protocol. alan says it's an utter disgrace and completely unacceptable that uk government would allow part of its territory to be effectively annexed by a foreign power. the protocol it exists must be scrapped . thank you very much scrapped. thank you very much for being very sound there in the emails , john says if the emails, john says if a northern ireland is governed as part the uk or is not england and wales are not under the ec in any way and neither northern ireland be. the ecj can have no role in any part of the uk. it's simple. it seems everyone's agreeing here. it seems that the politicians need to listen to the british public on this. we cannot separate northern from the rest of the well, one the rest of the uk. well, one country, one rob says all

country, one union. rob says all these complexities began when these complexities began when the eu and the remainers we should have further integration . no one voted for that. none of this is not the fault of brexit. i like the double negative there, but i think, you know you're all onto something. i think we are. thank you for those views, by the way. thank for emailing and tweeting. we do appreciate that. i got appreciate that. i we've got peter blakeslee now. so peter blakeslee back now. so let's the top story let's return to the top story this the police searching this hour. the police searching for missing mother of two nicola bulley discovered a body bulley have discovered a body body the mr. are body in the river. mr. what are your thoughts on developments we've discovered today ? well, we've discovered today? well, there has yet to be a formal identification of this body , so identification of this body, so we cannot say with any certainty that it we cannot say with any certainty thatitis we cannot say with any certainty that it is the body of nicola bulley although of course, many of the circum stances will lead some people to draw that conclusion. i'm obviously going to wait for the formal identification, which is of course a very sombre process . it course a very sombre process. it can be done a number of ways

through dna, dental records or if appropriate , face to face id if appropriate, face to face id by a loved one. they will, of course, be a post mortem fairly soon. and during process, i of death will hopefully be established and all this evidence will be gathered together probably for a coroner's court inquest which will take at some point in the future. all in all, very sombre afternoon . how difficult has afternoon. how difficult has this investigation been for lancashire police ? well, i think lancashire police? well, i think they with regards to the investigation they came out with a working hypothesis early on which was nicola bulley had gone into the water that may yet seem to be borne out , we should say, to be borne out, we should say, with this identified you process with this identified you process with regards to their handling of the messaging , the

of the messaging, the information they put out to the pubuc information they put out to the public through press conference sizes and the like that felt very widely short of what i would have expected . it was would have expected. it was clumsy it was clunky at times. it was inaccurate other times. and of course it led to an absolute storm when they revealed nicola bulley had alcohol issues connected to the perimenopause . and then we had perimenopause. and then we had secretary and no less of the prime expressing their concerns and the information commissioner weighing in. so all of that at some point in the future will be subject to some very close i'm sure what will happen next. the body has not yet been identified if this is nicola bulley, how hard will it be to establish what that will be a matter for the post—mortem and course pathology incredibly highly trained, knowledgeable and learned people. but there will be supporting evidence, perhaps

that might help the pathologist . and in turn, of course, it's really the coroner that will decide the cause of death through the coroners inquest that may be held within a matter of weeks or it may be put off, depending on what further investigations are carried out. of course , this body will be of course, this body will be with the respect it deserves , with the respect it deserves, but also any closing potentially might be subject to forensic examination , perhaps footwear, examination, perhaps footwear, any items found. so there's a long way to go on this investigation. and i can thoroughly understand the police now a probably going to play their cards a little bit closer to their chest in what they reveal because . we need to reveal because. we need to remember whether there's been nicola bulley or not there will be people who will be grieving loss of a loved one. absolutely what sorts of support will nicola bulley family be receiving during this ? well,

receiving during this? well, since the early stages , the since the early stages, the investigation, a family liaison officer has been allocated to them . i know many people have them. i know many people have had really a kind of empowering and very relationships. their family liaison officers . and family liaison officers. and conversely, of course , some conversely, of course, some people who have lost, loved have not got on quite so famously with these specialist officers . with these specialist officers. people sometimes seem to forget that family liaison, that there's a of a miss sort of conception that they're really there for somebody to pull your hearts out. so actually and the police might not thank you very much for saying this, but really family liaison officers are there to gather evidence as well. and that's the harsh reality of they need to be very observant and of course, they need to be to behave with suitable empathy, sympathy , suitable empathy, sympathy,

consideration . and i'm sure that consideration. and i'm sure that in this case, that hopefully is exactly what the fellow the family liaison officer is offering to the bully family should indeed it turn out to be nicola hughes, whose body and who is nicola's body that's been found. sorry. right. well, thank very much for that. peter blakeslee, former metropolitan police detective , now royal police detective, now royal dolls, children's books are being to remove language deemed offence by the publisher. puffin in the new editions of the books. mrs. is no longer fearfully ugly . the fearfully ugly. the oompa—loompas have gone gender and augustus gloop is no longer fat. the publisher said the review of dahl's language was undertaken ensure that the books can continue to be enjoyed by all. today the general secretary of the speech union, toby young, joins me now . toby, without a joins me now. toby, without a review, these books be enjoyed today. review, these books be enjoyed today . yeah the notion that they today. yeah the notion that they have to be and somehow turned into bland , anodyne politically

into bland, anodyne politically correct text before can be appreciated by. children and parents reading to their children today is completely absurd . it's patronising. it's absurd. it's patronising. it's ridiculous and it's an insult frankly to the memory of roald dahl. frankly to the memory of roald dahl . well, absolutely . is it dahl. well, absolutely. is it just wokeness taking over mean we could argue that these stories always been changed. if we look at, for example, old fairytales in brothers grimm and then look at original disney then look at the original disney makes, have been softened then look at the original disney maiso have been softened then look at the original disney maiso is have been softened then look at the original disney maiso is this|ave been softened then look at the original disney maiso is this not been softened then look at the original disney maiso is this not somethingned then look at the original disney maiso is this not something we up. so is this not something we always do ? i recall something always do? i recall something quite like this being done before . i mean, i think that in before. i mean, i think that in cases when disney adapted grimm's fairy tales , they made grimm's fairy tales, they made them slightly less horrified . them slightly less horrified. but that's not quite the same thing , actually, going back to thing, actually, going back to the text and bold la rising the text to out some of the original language. i mean, the only precedent or perhaps the oldest precedent or perhaps the oldest precedent can think of is samuel

johnson because of breaking , we johnson because of breaking, we had to cut this short. i'm really sorry. that was the general secretary of the free speech union, toby, thank you for today to be a for for your time today to be a for the roald dahl story company has previously said when publishing new of books written new print runs of books written years unusual to years ago, it's not unusual to review language review the language used updating details updating of the details including a book's cover page layout. our guiding principle throughout has been to maintain the characters on the the storylines characters on the irreverence and sharp edged spirits original text. any spirits of original text. any changes made been small and changes made have been small and carefully you have carefully considered. you have been come and been watching calvin's come and such i'm such crusade with me. i'm apologise no prayer apologise that there's no prayer today, grace our lord today, but the grace our lord jesus of god jesus christ, the love of god and fellowship with us all and the fellowship with us all evermore and happy to mother. evermore and happy to my mother. happy birthday, you later, happy birthday, mom. you later, love. there up love. you know, there it is up next. see next week. there. next. see you next week. there. welcome to your latest update from the met office. i'm jonathan vautrey . you do have a jonathan vautrey. you do have a few sunny intervals this afternoon the general theme afternoon but the general theme for few days is for the next few days is a cloudy one. frontal systems pushing their way across the northern of uk will bring northern half of uk will bring a more unsettled picture here.

although we have high pressure in south. feed in the south. the feed southwesterly winds coming in off the atlantic is slowly build clouds here so a few clear for central south eastern areas of england throughout this evening but the cloud tending to build as throughout the night as we move throughout the night and drizzle are and some bits of drizzle are possible. northern ireland, parts england and parts of western england and wales extensive rain moving wales more extensive rain moving into scotland . this will be into scotland. this will be accompanied by some particularly strong up to 60, 70 mile strong winds. up to 60, 70 mile an hour gusts possible. so an hour gusts are possible. so take here. underneath the take care here. underneath the cloud, though, it's going to be a for all of us. some a mild night for all of us. some places holding around ten, 11 degrees across degrees celsius. the rain across scotland to into scotland will tend to into monday, it could turn into monday, so it could turn into fairly dump and drizzly day here for north of that will be for the north of that will be some sunny intervals for the northern isles. going to northern isles. it's going to remain particularly gusty across shetland northern england shetland for northern england and wales. it will be a cloudy day. the outbreak possible perhaps for parts of harwich , perhaps for parts of harwich, northumberland. so temperatures could reach 56 degrees selsey is but will retain that cloud as we move into the evening period .

move into the evening period. again, some drizzle is possible . the rain in the north gradually its way off more into parts the highlands and eventually clearing way off to the northern isles as well but the northern isles as well but the vast majority of us will again remain frost free as we move into the start of tuesday, looking to be another fairly cloudy day for all us. again, the odd glimmer of sunshine might come through, but for most of us we will see fairly great skies . into wednesday we'll skies. into wednesday we'll start to see this frontal system shift its way out eastwards shift its way out of eastwards across the country . and that across the country. and that will in slight to our will bring in a slight to our weather. we start feeling in some winds so it will turn some winds and so it will turn brighter for a time, but we'll see temperatures just falling drop , falling off that bit more drop, falling off that bit more . enjoy your day . monday to . enjoy your day. monday to thursday, 9 pm. till 11 pm. join dan wootton. i'll bring you the sharp steaks and hottest debates . do you believe in debates. do you believe in prison? i don't believe in prisons completely. i guarantee you. there'll be no spin, no bias , no censorship. i actually bias, no censorship. i actually personally quite offended by it

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