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next good evening . this is the latest good evening. this is the latest from the gb news room lancashire police working to find a body was recovered from the river wyre . it was located in the area wyre. it was located in the area mother of two nicola bulley disappeared more than three weeks ago. the currently the death as unexplained and say her family has been informed . the family has been informed. the latest development the home secretary suella braverman described the news as heartbreaking , distressing. heartbreaking, distressing. former detective chief inspector mike neville's the post—mortem examination might not give us information about happened. there'll be formal identification of the body. obviously if it is been in the room for a long, you know, three
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weeks or whatever, three weeks, what they what whether the post—mortem can ever tell us whether she entered deliberately or i accident perhaps will know it's been too much speculation this case of course we've had all sorts of rules going down there and calls and even more help to the families. so the sooner the police can get the post—mortem and the identification. i'm sure they'll be keen to get that information out there . the prime minister out there. the prime minister has rejected calls by senior conservative mp to scrap a planned rise in corporation tax. rishi is set to introduce a new policy hiking the tax . 19% to policy hiking the tax. 19% to 25% in april. but several tory backbenchers are encouraging mr. sunak to abandon the increase as part of the march budget, sunak to abandon the increase as part of the march budget , saying part of the march budget, saying it would be a blow to levelling up hopes. however, a government spokesperson says it's vital to stick to it in order to have inflation this year and reduce debt debt . sir keir starmer says
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debt debt. sir keir starmer says under no will labour do a deal with the snp. addressing a party conference in edinburgh urged scottish voters to put their in labourin scottish voters to put their in labour in the wake . nicola labour in the wake. nicola sturgeon's resignation . sir keir sturgeon's resignation. sir keir says he can bring change to scotland and the tide is turning on the tories and the snp . the on the tories and the snp. the movie all quiet on the western took the baftas by storm evening, taking home seven awards. and with that it broke the baftas record for the most awards. one by a film not in english, while elvis star austin butler , the bafta for the best butler, the bafta for the best leading actor beating colin farrell, who'd been the favourite take the prize and the twitter fella she's an she's a finisher and were among the other big this evening winning the award outstanding british film film tv online and tv plus
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radio. this is stephen is that whatever the headline is . whatever the headline is. hello, i'm andrew doyle and welcome to headliners. joining tonight to take you through monday's top stories are two top comedians inverted commas. josh howey and frances foster. how are you both.7 i've my i'm a bit worried. i got poisoned by the chocolates that you were given as a gift and then you let me them what you want my taster. josh? i know now i'm feeling a bit weird. i'm you're bit weird. i'm just. you're absolutely fine. look absolutely fine. you look lovely. an effort lovely. you've made an effort with jacket . i appreciate lovely. you've made an effort withbeingacket . i appreciate lovely. you've made an effort withbeing here.. i appreciate lovely. you've made an effort with being here. let'spreciate lovely. you've made an effort with being here. let's see ate lovely. you've made an effort withbeing here. let's see ife lovely. you've made an effort withbeing here. let's see if i you being here. let's see if i make it to the end of the show. and how are you frances? oh, i'm very well. i'm just very interested in josh's progress and to if he dies by the end and to see if he dies by the end of headlines. okay, well, stick around out. before around to find out. but before we let's have a quick we begin, let's have a quick gander monday's front pages
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gander at monday's front pages and daily now they are and the daily mail. now they are running found less running with body found less than from she than a mile from where she vanished. story of vanished. this the story of nicola bulley and this will be dominating the front dominating most of the front covers telegraph has body covers of the telegraph has body in search for missing nicola the guardian leading with a top scientists issue stark warning on shattered health care workers . the times running with the nicola bulley body found a mile from where he vanished and the mirror family's worst fear walkers spot woman in river mile from where she vanished . and the from where she vanished. and the daily star they're running with brooms. rush there's gold, apparently in for those who want to go dig it up. fascinating stuff . those were your front stuff. those were your front pages pages . okay. we're going pages pages. okay. we're going to kick off with the story dominating, all of the front pages. josh, this is the metro. yes. so nicola body is found , yes. so nicola body is found, but they've use some punctuation and a slightly sly way. nicola
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semi colon so reads like body is it's a bit misleading is it. and we should emphasise that they don't the identity of this body that nicola body is. yeah. so that's a little bit dodgy then. and then they also go family after discovery and really they're going to be comforted , they're going to be comforted, not the right words. it's odd , not the right words. it's odd, odd way of reporting on this isn't it. you know. yeah but so found a mile away. yes and, and we shouldn't jump to conclusions . we shouldn't jump to. but regardless that they found a couple walking , found this body, couple walking, found this body, saw this in the river, in the reeds . you're wondering. they've reeds. you're wondering. they've been looking for that for three weeks now. what are the police been doing? well, that's been doing? okay. well, that's an interesting i mean, francis, it's such a horrible it's i mean, such a horrible story. so tragic. i mean, story. it's so tragic. i mean, that does raise an interesting point. maybe the body gets washed further downstream or something i don't something like that. i don't know. do you think? well, know. what do you think? well, absolutely. the reality is that the police have not emerged with any credit . this case any great credit. this case there was disclosing of the fact
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that nicola had issues with alcohol . she was on hrt alcohol. she was on hrt treatment. i don't really what was relevant about this . they was relevant about this. they haven't made it clear why those that information should be conveyed the public and if they were going to do so they should explain their reasons shouldn't absolutely be critical of that. absolutely and what is actually looked from even from on the right is what the police have been doing is a certain amount of victims shaming and blaming her, saying, you know, she had alcohol problems , etc, etc. the alcohol problems, etc, etc. the reality the police should have their jobs better. they should have conducted a more thorough search and we really should have discovered the of nicola already. yeah absolutely horrible story. anyway, we're going move on to the front of the telegraph. what are the telegraph running. i mean they're also mentioning the they've also covered the nicola bulley story but they have other stories well which could talk stories as well which could talk about absolutely this is about here. absolutely this is a ireland story in northern ireland, brexit story. yippee
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yeah, exactly. brexit is a gift that keeps on its back and it's better .everrishi sunak has been better .ever rishi sunak has been forced to pause the protocol amid back lash from senior tories and dwp and always a risk, wasn't it, with the with the dup's red lines it was always a risk. well, this is it was always a risk as you all know, being northern irish. andrew doing any form of deal andrew in doing any form of deal in northern ireland is, incredibly difficult you incredibly difficult when you have to appeal both sides , have to appeal to both sides, almost impossible on the political spectrum. this is why stormont keeps this is why we had it between 2017 and 2020 with sinn fein not refusing to participate the vote. you participate in the vote. you have a system where you where the first minister the deputy first minister have the same power same weight. power they have the same weight. you parties board. you need both parties on board. that's whole power that's a whole point of power sharing. and it collapses, sharing. and when it collapses, they out. i they need to sort it out. i mean, you know, is a history of breaking deadlocks in northern ireland, but this looks like an interminable well, interminable deadlock. well, we'll see. but the interesting storm quite clever storm has done quite a clever thing he labour thing because he said labour will give his support.
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will give sunak his support. yes. any look, this is yes. i.e. any look, this is bigger parties this is bigger than parties this is about for the a about what's best for the as a whole. and that's not play whole. yeah. and that's not play party politics with this and stop sort of kowtowing to your more extreme brexiteer base. yes get this get this done so we can start making brexit work. but either way, politically, it's a thing for starmer to do. i mean, i wonder, i thing for starmer to do. i mean, iwonder, i mean, thing for starmer to do. i mean, i wonder, i mean, you know, i don't know if it is about hardline. i think it is about and sort of inability to the strength of feeling in northern ireland, the protocol and an inability sort of with inability sort of grapple with the of constitu tional the kind of constitu tional threat, the kind of existential threat, the kind of existential threat that lot of unionists threat that a lot of unionists fear. you i was in fear. i mean, you know, i was in belfast quite recently and it's know i've got family in the time i was there, i was looking around some of the some of the areas, some of the unionist areas, some of the unionist areas are loyalist areas, rather, where they have the graffiti and they have murals and all of a sudden you're seeing a lot of no to the no irish no border down irish sea you know that kind of thing replacing slogans of replacing the old slogans of no surrender it's the strength of
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feeling. i can't emphasise enough. feeling. i can't emphasise enough . that's quite good. enough. that's quite good. i mean, i'm sorry. just but i quite like the fact that these . quite like the fact that these. but that's better than people with guns. it is because people aren't when this sort of aren't good when this sort of writing about of slogans writing about sort of slogans the shouldn't be anywhere the ecj shouldn't be anywhere near or whatever i near us or whatever though i have seen some graffiti with guns and no and the guns and no borders and the irish i think you irish as well. so i think you can combine that to say maybe we're moving a good graffiti we're moving in a good graffiti direction. think that direction. i think that that should concern is should be our main concern is the of the graffiti, but the tenor of the graffiti, but hopefully we'll get these hopefully we'll get past these red lines. i think that's very important do important that they do and hopefully resolve at hopefully that can resolve at some anyway . going to move some point anyway. going to move on front cover of the on to the front cover of the guardian, are covering a guardian, they are covering a different story as well, aren't they? yes. top scientists stark warning on health care workers . warning on health care workers. so this is nurses are knackered basically know. and it's not just uk it's all around the world as see there was this thing a couple of years called covid where they tell us what happened. yeah, well, it was a big hoo ha ha ha .
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happened. yeah, well, it was a big hoo ha ha ha. i happened. yeah, well, it was a big hoo ha ha ha . i don't know. big hoo ha ha ha. i don't know. all i remember is i had to homeschool my kids a couple of years. oh, yeah. now they're very clever. what about you ? it very clever. what about you? it just. yeah, that's. well, that no one else to talk to during that and but basically, that time. and but basically, yeah. and certainly in the uk where we haven't been investing, it's certainly long term our health system and the doctors with the staff and now as everyone's going on strikes, we're seeing, you know, the fruits of this bad policy making over years. yeah. i mean they do more support and that these frontline workers clapping do you think they're knackered because of all the dancing on tiktok it could be a lot of could a lot that because could be a lot of that because those they are exhausting some of know good makes of them, you know good makes a lot of rehearsal fitness what do think about francis? think about this francis? i think about this francis? i think look, it's been two years of which these of a pandemic in which these health were at health professionals were at the coalface , saw some of the most coalface, saw some of the most awful sites i've had people messaging me on twitter, explaining what was going in hospitals. and i think there is just a general fatigue when
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you've been put through that for two years working, seeing people literally dying in front of . literally dying in front of. yeah. at a rate that you hadn't seen before in your career . it's seen before in your career. it's not surprising to me that. a lot of them wanting to leave the profession or wanting a sabbatical, demanding more pay . sabbatical, demanding more pay. oh yeah. because they are underpaid as well. yeah this is this is the of it. anyway, this is the truth of it. anyway, thanks. bumming us out. that's yeah. know, you yeah. low wage. you know, you should at my tonight. should have been at my tonight. well i also delivered some truth bombs. hopefully francis will be able to something like two stories but stories after the break but those were the front pages do join there? after the break, we're diving into we're going to be diving into the stories tomorrow. china, we're going to be diving into the us stories tomorrow. china, we're going to be diving into the us tensions,)morrow. china, we're going to be diving into the us tensions, macron'schina, the us tensions, macron's decline , earning popularity. decline, earning popularity. and as hbo's classic comedy topics funny their yes.
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look at monday's newspapers with andrew doyle and also just how he and francis foster monday's express now how close are we to world three? josh well, before we get to that, i just want to give an update on the chocolate poison thing. i'm a bit gassy. okay, so i don't know if that's a sign. anybody knows out a sign. if anybody knows out there, that's a of there, if that's a sign of poisoning, if you could tweet us or send sort of message anyway that you're genuinely worried about a little bit no about this, i'm a little bit no worried because i'm worried as may make because i'm sitting next you. well i'm doing my it and anyway my best to hold it and anyway lovely with story. lovely man on with the story. yeah but let's talk about world war three. let's talk about the world warns of world ending. us warns of serious consequences as china poised to send, although weapons into ukraine so all things spreading to essentially become a proxy world. we obviously have iran supplying russia with the drones that have been attacking ukraine's infrastructure . now ukraine's infrastructure. now china has has been supporting russia in means i don't know
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what that means like noodles maybe something like that but the theory right from the start and they sort of racist me to say that basically . okay but say that basically. okay but they didn't say, for instance they didn't say, for instance they didn't say, for instance they didn't condemn them outright after the invasion and they said best buddies. they said we're best buddies. yeah, your back . it does yeah, we got your back. it does look dodgy, doesn't it. yeah. so them potential for them them potential now for them because i think there's no doubt that russia has been i that russia has been impacted. i mean still able to get mean they're still able to get the nice cars and their their expensive handbags whatnot in russia at the moment but whether the weapons and bits of equipment that's now starting perfected we've got a lot of sanctions from the west you know they can't viagra anymore they can't get viagra anymore they can't get viagra anymore they toilet seats they they can't get toilet seats they can't i think can't get mcdonald's. i think various things on saturday night is they all getting is ruined. they all getting weapons china . all they weapons from china. all they that's over. and now america is basically put warning because obviously america and russia and china have got to pick they go they got big balloons, got a big buzz. a lot of balloons, got balloons going on. are you worried about this frenzy? i mean, do you think, you know,
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we're on the cusp of a global conflict? i don't we're on the cusp a global conflict. but cusp of a global conflict. but say well, i left say cusp as well, i feel left out by what's with us. no, out by what's wrong with us. no, no. just said it's such no. you just said it's such a sort of alliterative way off. you're making sound like a big camp article. so i it just coming up that anyway i think what it really does show is we always saw china an as an ally we always them as as though they would make us all things off products for cheap. we would then import them and it would be very hunky and what this is actually shown and is exposed is the fact that china are not our allies. they do not want to work with us. they have other prior and the west needs to wake to that. sure. okay. well going to move now to a potential a breakthrough on alzheimer's . breakthrough on alzheimer's. this is in monday's guardian francis oh, yes, it is. research into the disease has focussed on plaques in the brain. some
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scientists viruses and bacteria a role in this. so there's been a role in this. so there's been a lot of research done by many neurologists at the columbia university and have actually a lot of them have actually said that you can link alzheimer's to the herpes virus which is a passage which is actually found in 70% of the population . and in 70% of the population. and what a lot of these neurosciences think is that you get infected the herpes simplex virus and essentially your brain is inflamed . and once it reaches is inflamed. and once it reaches a certain level of inflammation, thatis a certain level of inflammation, that is , you start to develop that is, you start to develop alzheimer's like what are they saying is ? this a form of herpes saying is? this a form of herpes like cold sores, that kind of thing. exactly. and so but this is the interesting thing. there was a 2018 study in taiwan which says that when people have herpes were treated with a stent is a standard anti—viral drug , is a standard anti—viral drug, it would decrease their risk of contracting dementia of developing dementia nine fold. that's significant . that's that's significant. that's that's not shabby, is it? that's a yeah, that's a big deal. so i
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mean, you know, they asked well we always get these stories every now then about we're closer to finding cure for alzheimer's. this looks like actually is quite a i actually it is quite a break. i mean, we could well be on the cusp of just want to say cusp of it. you just want to say the word me. i think it was the word cost me. i think it was there. but is i mean, it costs 34.7 billion a year dealing with the effects of dementia more than people in uk than a million people in the uk living with it. this and it seems be a sort of chicken seems to be a sort of chicken and egg situation here where what thought cause what they thought was the cause that might have been what they thought was the cause thatbody might have been what they thought was the cause thatbody defending have been what they thought was the cause thatbody defending itself. been what they thought was the cause thatbody defending itself. right the body defending itself. right and this really and so this is a this really interesting it is a horrible disease. i'm definitely disease. so i'm definitely getting thanks. getting it. yeah. thanks. i've snogged a lot of people. there we go so i always want to right who better to discuss this next one from monday's telegraph than josh hauer? you're an expert on this animal. i am indeed. welsh government admits women from penod government admits women from period poverty announcement penod. period poverty announcement period . what are things that period. what are things that women get interesting menstrual cycle thing i believe it happens
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once every four days and you know what you remind me of at this point? you remind of a science teacher covering us. so we have maths teacher covering we have a maths teacher covering his science lesson for the old days. feel four days of days. i feel four days of my life. is the point is life. i this is the point is that they have put this they want to achieve dignity in wales the social justice minister jane the social justice ministerjane hart did a statement and mention women okay but women i would say . to make you think so i think there's a connection here then. i think there's something going on that france's women are getting sick of this because, you know, we often see we often hear about the word women being replaced with, people who bleed menstruating , people with menstruating, people with vulvas, etc. eggless egg layers ' 999 vulvas, etc. eggless egg layers , egg bearers . but we don't hear , egg bearers. but we don't hear this with men. i mean, i was trying to replace the word man with prostate have or you know, people with testes. and so it does feel like a targeted anti woman campaign. absolutely. and
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this is what people don't really understand when it to understand when it comes to genden understand when it comes to gender, ideology is that it is about raising women. it's about saying that anyone can be a woman and if that anyone can be a woman , then actually women a woman, then actually women have the definition woman doesn't exist. right. and that happens. you start to get into very, very, very dangerous with things like this , you can say, things like this, you can say, oh, what does it matter . but oh, what does it matter. but when it comes to erasing women only spaces such as prisons , only spaces such as prisons, hospitals, dressing rooms , hospitals, dressing rooms, changing rooms, sports , that's changing rooms, sports, that's when it gets very dangerous for women know we've seen obviously the smp. i mean nicola sturgeon you know has collapsed as a result of her stupid commitment to fealty to gender ideology. we're seeing it in wales as well. they're actually thinking of suit . are they of following suit. are they not learning other people's learning from other people's mistakes? that just shows how they are, how much part of this bubble that they are. and you're seeing also to seeing they also want to introduce things like non—binary passports. say passports. this is like say mental. yeah. okay we're going
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to move on now to monday telegraph again. what about this conferences you've got there so yes. so coming complimenting women excuse for women cannot be an excuse for street harassment says and this is because men who harass women in the streets or they may they lewd comments to them one of the get out of jail free cards that they can use is i was just playing it, paying her a compliment. i was just being friendly and i see the reality is she couldn't take a joke, etc, etc. so what government are trying to do is they're trying to crack down on this because , to crack down on this because, if they're found guilty of street harassment , offenders can street harassment, offenders can face to maximum of two face up to a maximum of two years jail and also they're years in jail and also they're very problematic, andrew, because they know a woman because they know what a woman is and. we can't have that kind of that. i mean, you and of that. i mean, look, you and i have both been teachers, so we know that at times when bullies do their thing, their get out is often a yes, often it only a joke? yes, that's something pretty that's something that is pretty pretty is a that pretty standard. this is a that can be with this kind of thing, though. so sometimes innocuous things, genuinely innocuous things, genuinely innocuous
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things wrapped up with things get wrapped up with serious . yes. that serious assault. yes. that absolutely be problem with absolutely can be problem with this bill. at the same time, there is massive problem of women being shouted at. yeah. followed talked wolf whistle . followed talked wolf whistle. we've seen that this stuff escalates and that's the problem is where you had like wayne and it was he was done this week for indecent exposure and then a few days after that incident he then went and murdered and raped and kidnapped somebody. so the point is, we living in a culture where somehow men are not not not met. some men are not being taught how to treat. so this is about socialisation. absolutely i think that rather than bill, which hopefully will help deal with the situation the real issue is let's get into schools where you guys just work teach the boys who somehow are growing up in households where they're not being taught to respect other beings and other human beings and particularly women . and that particularly women. and that hopefully then that issue would
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be dealt with in the next ten, 15 because it's not dealt 15 years because it's not dealt with particularly well by putting creating sort hyper putting creating a sort hyper reaction later down line. for instance, when we have the metoo movement and you have that dossier from parliament talking about the various transgressions, sexual transgressions, sexual transgressions , but it had transgressions, but it had things like sexual assault wrapped up with touching someone's knee lightly and that makes a laughingstock of the whole movement . so similarly, whole movement. so similarly, that would be my concern here and i think you're right, probably get in early and socialise kids better, but is also as well and we have to accept so there's always accept this. so there's always going to a small minority of going to be a small minority of deeply unpleasant, awful who are going unspeakable and going to commit unspeakable and violent against women and violent acts against women and the reality is and i think josh his point is particularly salient we need to get in early with those types men in order to make sure like in the case of wayne cousins , they do not wayne cousins, they do not escalate their awful behaviour. yeah. okay. well, troubling statistics now from monday's guardian. josh, what's this
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about ? black people are seven about? black people are seven times more likely to die after police restraint in britain figures show. so this is a report that's coming out monday i called i breathe which is reference to what happened in america race death and british policing so what they've done is because this unbelievably one seems to have collated these figures before or properly or the government certainly said there been an instance of proportionality in terms of black people being arrested, dying . yes. see, when they dying. yes. see, when they figure it turns out some of these high profile cases actually won't be included the data. so hopefully the home did say that they had looked into the data on this, but they weren't including, for instance, when someone wasn't necessarily under arrest at the time. exactly. so actually when they do factor in the data and they look at it over the last ten years or so , 23 of 119 deaths years or so, 23 of 119 deaths have taken place in custody with
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a straight were black people and means that there's 6.4 more times more likely to die . they times more likely to die. they are restrained. okay, frances any thoughts on this one? well, having frances do it, any thoughts on this one? well, having frances do it , the having frances do it, the reality is, is these are awful statistics and at a time . where statistics and at a time. where for faith in every police is taking a real battering particularly with my own cousins particularly with my own cousins particularly other instances. this is the last thing the police force needs. there needs to an investigation and if people black people as a result likely to seven times more likely to seven times more likely to seven times more likely to die, we need to find out the reasons why. okay what about another story now? this is an anti—social behaviour. super asbos. what's this about? asbos. josh what's this about? yes, this labour's going to reintroduce tougher asbos with powers , make arrests. this is powers, make arrests. this is where actually seeing some labour policy supposedly later on this week there's going to be these pledges that storm is going come out. but obviously going to come out. but obviously
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one is they're one of these things is they're doing respect doing something called respect orders, because the orders, which because the problem with asbos were replaced about eight years ago. yes by anti—social behaviour they couldn't enforce and people were going to jail or were being arrested when they become like a badge of honour for people, for asbos. so now they're going to make these laws. labour's we're going to make these laws a lot strict and so that actually put some teeth behind them because. we are seeing a massive increase, 30% increase this year of to shops and of criminal damage to shops and leisure whatnot. leisure centres and whatnot. and this on society. this has an impact on society. certainly areas where there is , certainly areas where there is, you know, obviously less money and, more other words i'm trying to remember , i think that to remember, i think that chocolate's affecting me. yeah, it is it is this is interesting because. the labour party are not known for being tough on crime and it seems that they are well trying to win an well they were trying to win an election winning which election winning election which they've already got the bag, let's be honest. well, yes. so the problem labour you
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the problem with labour is you had corbyn, who we know had jeremy corbyn, who we know so far to the left he abandoned the centre and keir starmer, who is actually very astute politician , realises that the politician, realises that the tories have badly let down the british public on their core principles. but including crime, including crime and. and order. so what, starmer is very shrewdly trying to do is operate and take that middle ground away from the conservative and say, look , under a labour government look, under a labour government we will be tough on crime. and in words of his great hero , in words of his great hero, tough on the causes of crime . tough on the causes of crime. but it sounds like really this is how tories are it out is the tory spokesman said the labour they voted specifically gets tougher sentences desecration of war memorials. so why if that's the only place that they go to you know i'm saying that that's not a serious system but compared to these communities that really suffering. yeah think at this point the tories might as well just they're not going to win the next so let labour do it mess everything up and they'll be and then they'll be in a stronger position next time.
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what strategy? what would be my strategy? i mean, labour's strategy mean, that is labour's strategy at the moment. yeah. to fair. okay, we take a break now, okay, we must take a break now, but please don't go anywhere okay, we must take a break now, but plea aftern't go anywhere okay, we must take a break now, but plea aftern't gbreakwhere okay, we must take a break now, but plea aftern't (break we've because after the break we've got a disturbing use of ai. why the turning the tide might be turning against woke and why your doctor is unlikely working is unlikely to be working class c minute .
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welcome back to headline is your first look at monday's newspapers. let's get straight into it with this one from monday's telegraph. and is salman rushdie worth listening to on literary matters ? well, i to on literary matters? well, i don't know again what he know. i mean, he's only working on several notable i mean, this verses midnight's children , who verses midnight's children, who cares. but anyway he has led criticism of absurd road censorship and this is publish says collectively losing their mind here and changing one of
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the most brilliant children's authors in this country has ever produced. when i was a teacher, if there was ever a child didn't like reading, you could guarantee that they would love the works of roald dahl because it's spiky. it's funny, it's really dark. i mean, if you think about that, that scene in the witches where the child trapped in painting is trapped in the painting is chilling and but children like i mean this idea that they've got to protected, of this to be protected, all of this stuff is nonsense. they stuff is nonsense. no. and they loved it. they took a glee. the villains come to particularly villains come to a particularly unpleasant loved owl unpleasant fate. i loved owl doll ignited a passion for reading in me and he will do generations and the fact that they have taken his work and mangled it is to me disgraceful. i think we should probably clarify i mean some of the things they're doing it's not just censorship of things that are maybe have dated. they're actually rewriting passages . so actually rewriting passages. so maybe these aren't living documents . no, this maybe these aren't living documents. no, this is this is someone has put their work out that he thought very carefully like any writer does. yeah. like the very specific specifics of
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the case. specifics and specifics of their language and replacements a terrible so flow as well as a weirdness about things he's wanting and david dale makes good point that you know one of the words i took out was like double but then they left because was going to be offensive to people who had double assuming they're double chin assuming they're overweight. then they left in wonky nose or crooked teeth. so it's inconsistent. well, that's it. so where does it end? well, they took out reference to richard kipling. yeah because he's be a problematic he's deemed to be a problematic author now. and they put in john steinbeck instead who wrote a book called mice and men, book called of mice and men, which been taken certain which has been taken off certain schools shelves because schools library shelves because of racial epithets of the use of racial epithets within book. they're within that book. so they're getting these getting themselves in all these sort should be sort of not what it should be surely that we just leave surely is that we just leave books alone and. if they if ethical standards and things are no longer accepted, we explain to yeah, these to kids, yeah, these were written time written at a different time where people are divided . no one where people are divided. no one cares he was virulent . by cares that he was a virulent. by the they have of people
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the way, do they have of people saying not like talking saying they're not like talking about the people who are changing you think that changing words. you think that may be the final bite for them in their ideology. well he was a big old. right. they not use that as as the reason behind it at all. i'm just saying, if at all. but i'm just saying, if they were going to stay with that like this ban these troublesome writers as he troublesome writers as well, he was a anti—semite. but yes was a anti—semite. yeah. but yes so. had a lot of so. exactly. we've had a lot of sort people sort of sort of woke people sort of saying that need to censor or saying that we need to censor or get of authors who have get rid of authors who have negative views about minority. but is more what the but this is more what the characters within books are characters within the books are saying. don't say to ban them. i've got you know, i've got all these books. yeah. and i'm hoping to read one day. hoping to read them one day. you've the original versions you've got the original versions of new, you know . now will of this new, you know. now will it the hopefully that it be the case. hopefully that people not buy these new people will not buy these new versions the second versions and just get the second hand i mean, we've with hand ones? i mean, we've with dr. the state dr. dr. seuss that the state dr. seuss actually took those books off the market so you can't even buy anymore i do think buy them anymore i do think there's getting hold there's a case for getting hold of books and keeping of old books and keeping them safe. yes absolutely. this is an authoritarian will authoritarian movement will keep changing. and the problem is
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that mollycoddling and that we are mollycoddling and then we complain when they grow up into adults and we start saying, you know, they're oversensitive. can't handle oversensitive. they can't handle criticism, they they don't know how take in a debate. how to take part in a debate. stupid. yeah. thank you. yeah, but it's true. yeah and but the reality is we're ones who are causing this in our children by ridiculous incidents such as this. so i just because i think these documents will serve as a historical reminder, like a 100 year time, they can look at these and go, these are the changes yeah, and this is how stupid people were 100 years ago to that. well good on salman rushdie for leading charge rushdie for leading the charge this yeah he's absolutely this one. yeah he's absolutely right. troubling right. anyway troubling consequences a are i art consequences of a are i art generate is this is from monday's mail josh this is an unpleasant this is a very unpleasant this is a very unpleasant story are using software to make indecent images children and minor attractive people. thank you yeah yeah. according to that's the phrase that's the work left use about it yeah forgive the mess anyway
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but me because you can make image on these air generators. now of course that does lend itself to more and. not only that, they're also taking real life pictures of kids, but like adding them to other deep fake stuff . it's a really horrible stuff. it's a really horrible article. it's important that this stuff is highlights i guess we can deal with it. although when they're writing about it, it does say that someone who's in charge finding these images, the internet watch foundation, so they actually found so far their job to so they actually found so far theirjob to remove so they actually found so far their job to remove these so they actually found so far theirjob to remove these images their job to remove these images from internet . and they haven't from internet. and they haven't actually found any of as of yet. but i believe they supposedly they do exist dramatic job that is very traumatic job and the thing is as this person says here the chief executive it this normalises then other abuse and real life abuse and stuff so and it's a horror it's a horrible story but of course this is one of the unintended consequences of the unintended consequences of technology and i'm sure when
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the people will come out with this is not they this this is not what they thought be useful. thought it would be useful. we're on to monday's we're moving on to monday's telegraph about telegraph now. let's talk about middle parenting. middle class parenting. frances grace, class parent, grace, a middle class parent, still want their children to be doctors many cultures , doctors in many cultures, particularly in immigrant cultures . if you have a child cultures. if you have a child who is who becomes a doctor that a sign that your child has made , that they have become a pillar in the community. look rightly so, because doctors they do wonderful , so, because doctors they do wonderful, wonderful work. however reality is, is that lot of them would encourage to be long hours. they're underpaid , a long hours. they're underpaid, a highly stressful job for obvious reasons . and so the reality is, reasons. and so the reality is, is that a lot of people go into medicine, realise this and then think to themselves , well, think to themselves, well, actually, with my incredible a—levels in the stem subjects , i a—levels in the stem subjects, i could have gone into finance, i could have gone into finance, i could have gone into finance, i could have gone into banking, i could have gone into banking, i could literally be earning what i'm earning now with a modicum of distress. but i mean, it's not all about money, of not all about the money, of course. it's something like being a doctor is vocational
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thing. you, you know, you want to interesting to help people. it's interesting article about the article talks about the jobs that kind of that have retained this kind of this sheen of respectability law and accountants keeping other things. are aspirational things. these are aspirational professions their professions parents want their kids these because it kids to become these because it seems a little arbitrary. well, it as it says here this is stuff that's been going back like 100 years immigrants so jewish years for immigrants so a jewish when they it's a very much when they come it's a very much a jewish oh my son a stereotype of jewish oh my son the doctor or the lawyer or accountant. and that also stresses it says here to asian families as well. but i'd say even just everyone like the idea oh my, my, my kids and my kids a lawyer my kids it's a it's a form boasting it well they aren't saying well i thought was interesting what they were saying my the quantity surveyor people whereas people are saying that whereas actually surveyors actually quantity surveyors earn more are more needed than architects . why are they saying architects. why are they saying comedians? my son, comedian, i'm so proud . well, why do they not so proud. well, why do they not do look at comedians do that? look at comedians might. seen might. have you ever seen a comedian and thought i'd want him be my child, but my mum said when came my first when she came to see my first
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show on, that wasn't 7 minutes. wow, that lovely . she also wow, that was lovely. she also called said because called my dad and said because i was living at home at the time and she said, how am i going to get him he's mad. will get him out? he's mad. will never it. i do like when never make it. i do like when you used to a show to settle scores. ah, and look at me now. just, you know when i, when i ask my mum for funding for edinburgh, my mum is south american venezuelan. she american, she's venezuelan. she went fancy. come with me. she took me round the house and she went, see these house, this went, you see these house, this is to for my is going to pay for my retirement, not your pathetic ambition to become a clown. that's amazing. it's amazing . that's amazing. it's amazing. and i hope she's not watching this version of your know, this version of your you know, says i know you do accent very goodi says i know you do accent very good i says you might something like bumblebee man from the simpsons what do you want on your toes . i'm terrible your toes. i'm terrible borderline xenophobia with moving on what about this one about cancel culture josh is a bit more positive, actually. yes. students are turning their back on bullying. cancel culture. harvard professor believes well he believes it so
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doesn't have any facts to it. okay but he thinks that we're at the crest of these cancellations certainly with academe. yeah. where seeing the has been where you're seeing the has been sort of increasing over the last few years these people coming for speech to give speeches and whatnot. yeah but he thinks now and with places the uk and certainly with places the uk now pulling in their legislation to make sure that free speech protected within universities what is the government to have a free speech tsar to make that this happens so we'll see if that works. i think he might be on to something. mean, you on to something. i mean, you know, given talks on know, i've given talks on university you university campuses and, you know, younger people seem know, the younger people do seem genuinely want to genuinely interested in want to want challenged. so want to be challenged. and so the perception the the perception we have, the snowflake think, snowflake generation, i think, is and i think a lot of is very and i think a lot of them are pushing back on this. i think a lot of them are sick of. a few students who get into politics deciding their politics deciding on their behalf can and cannot politics deciding on their behiwell, can and cannot politics deciding on their behiwell, is can and cannot politics deciding on their behiwell, is whatand cannot politics deciding on their behiwell, is what happens )t say, well, this is what happens is, well, you get generation is, well, you get one generation who particularly you who are particularly and you know, is you should know, free speech is you should be able say anything, then be able to say anything, then you think you'll get the next
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generation, people will be saying, but you can't saying, oh, look, but you can't saying, oh, look, but you can't say can't person. say that. you can't this person. and there'll be another and then there'll be another backlash. just how culture. backlash. it's just how culture. it's interesting. helen it's interesting. when helen joyce talk, a king's joyce gave a talk, a king's college cambridge and of joyce gave a talk, a king's collstudents|mbridge and of joyce gave a talk, a king's collstudents hadidge and of joyce gave a talk, a king's collstudents had to e and of joyce gave a talk, a king's collstudents had to e athey of joyce gave a talk, a king's collstudents had to e athey had of the students had to be they had to in because they were so to sneak in because they were so afraid of seen by other afraid of being seen by other students. might trouble afraid of being seen by other stu them. might trouble afraid of being seen by other stu them. iiight trouble afraid of being seen by other stu them. i mean, trouble afraid of being seen by other stu them. i mean, that'souble afraid of being seen by other stu them. i mean, that'sjusta for them. i mean, that's just not good thing, you know, it's not good thing, you know, it's not good thing, you know, it's not good situation. and not a good situation. and certainly of certainly in the field of academia, is about ideas, academia, which is about ideas, but i do think that the grounds world and this world is changing. and i this slightly tangential, but i want to bring in my son is just my 13 year old son is playing chess and his mates are all and all his mates are all playing chess and my nephew , playing chess and my nephew, who's like 15, is playing chess. you know why can't andrew tate is into chess. mean, and i'm is into chess. i mean, and i'm like told him in the hall andrew tate thing and i always thought that all this stuff and they've all obsessed with it's all got obsessed with chess it's like weird side. you like this weird side. and you play like this weird side. and you play in misogynistic play chess in a misogynistic wage, of dig at the wage, you sort of dig at the queen yeah. you tattoo the chess pieces with your name . yeah, pieces with your name. yeah, yeah, i find that very disturbing. anyway let's talk about this about emmanuel
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about this one about emmanuel macron , who has, well, declining macron, who has, well, declining popularity. francis well, indeed . so emmanuel macron popularity is plummeting and he's is dropped to his lowest levels in three years. but he's been trying to reform the retirement . in france, it was it is 62, and he wants to it to 64. now, obviously, the french don't like working as we all know , they get working as we all know, they get about it. so there's lots of strikes. there's been lots of argy bargy, but the reality is i think france is going through a crisis, a political crisis very similar to the one that we're going through at the moment. the mainstream parties aren't really representing the average person. they're getting very, very and a lot of them are to marine le pen party, which peddles a more, shall we say, a hard right position. yes. and as result of that, she's her party skyrocketing . and you're one
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skyrocketing. and you're one thing and you're wondering what's going to happen in the next election if these trends continue. she's also been edged out. millennial and interesting that the of far that you get the sort of far left and right. they are competing same competing for the same vote. vote. yes. is really vote. yes, yes. this is really interesting stuff. and also in french so french politics, always so unpredictable, actually. what happens. the pan happens. i think the pan is tainted by surname, tainted by of her surname, actually. yes. i think that will. see that her into will. i can't see that her into power get married. so that's going to be she needs to take her name but i mean, it is a worry, though, isn't it? it is a worry. but this is something that was part of the last election. know that they have a massive issue here . they have to massive issue here. they have to put out there retirement age . put out there retirement age. they say it's going to 62 to 64. i mean, in the uk it's 102. i mean, in the uk it's102. yeah, but is it it's going to be emmanuel macron doesn't really listen people though he doesn't listen people though he doesn't listen to the electorate he didn't listen to the religion. he doesn't care really or doesn't be. he doesn't seem to be. he is a technocrat. i think he's he's out of touch. right. he's completely out of touch. he is one of those of one of those types of politicians. okay starmer or sunak, much of
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sunak, who have very much of tony and up to him, tony blair and look up to him, but is, can only but reality is, you can only your electorate for so long before the inevitable backlash happens and you can see it bubbung happens and you can see it bubbling away in france for a very long time. i think that's absolutely new. we've got to go for contractually mandated for it contractually mandated break a few to break now so a few minutes to just decompress prepare yourself for part of headline for the next part of headline as we're going descend chaos. we're going to descend chaos. we've sun that his we've got a sun that is to his mother's only fans. we have a guide to pulling amari and why is squatting position is the most effective of defaecation. is squatting position is the okay come back for the sophisticated couple of minutes
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this is a freudian nightmare with what? well, he used to broach in bed with something else . okay, love admit subscribe else. okay, love admit subscribe to mom's only finds but it's not you think why is it? hope not it is because essentially his mom is because essentially his mom is not very attractive and this is not very attractive and this is his way of giving money to his mom . isn't it also that that his mom. isn't it also that that struggling well is it so she so he's like secretly got three accounts it's that he subscribes to her he says he never watches the stuff allegedly so he subscribes to his mother's only to make her feel better about but also to give her some money. give it some why not just give us she says. francis oh us some? she says. francis oh oh, unbelief. oh you know, only he say that my mom is on only friends. he also did racist impersonation. there is a member of the guardian watching this i one kind of so howie to go viral yeah they're going to do that hashtag yeah dare you. it's not her is it. francis no my only is
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very successful . she's earning very successful. she's earning millions . what's all about. this millions. what's all about. this is not just that is doing this but that he would admit this onune. but that he would admit this online . yes. why? why would you online. yes. why? why would you say that? yeah i think it's anonymous. yes yeah, it is. it is anonymous. but the funny thing , this whole twitter. oh thing, this whole twitter. oh okay. that's not his name. the finding you are admitting this only just shows to me that we need to bring back bullying. it needs to be strong anger. we needs to be strong anger. we need shame . we need shame. you need shame. we need shame. you call it go admitting this stuff. this is the stuff that you hold down and you never admit anyone apart from one. i always. it's working out with the wife and it all comes out and then you deny it well that's it what's the life his for partner looks life his wife for partner looks at bank statement. yes. and at his bank statement. yes. and says, this? and then says, who is this? and then checks finds out, oh , an checks some finds out, oh, an out. and then it says mark. and then goes and then it's my then he goes and then it's my mom, say, i'm doing your punchlines know, punchlines for josh. you know, this exactly the kind of this is exactly the kind of story that ends in tragedy. it goes i'm glad start
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goes nice. so i'm glad we start with the oedipus that, you know, my show. does my dad watches this show. does he? dear . love my dad watches this show. does he? dear. love is the he? yeah. oh, dear. love is the phrase my dad is from wigan. my he doesn't book or i or do you even know what a wigan accent is. but i made that okay , let's is. but i made that okay, let's continue with the theme of cultural degeneracy. this one the times. what this so this is how have a polyamorous relationship andrew without heart break and this is annie when she was 19 she was lonely. she wasn't out for monogamy. the reason is, annie is because you're 19. yeah right? and you should be going out and, sowing your wild oats and behaving like a little so—and—so. so that when you get out your system and then you get out your system and then you settle down into middle class misery. well, she talks about how she attempted to decipher her feelings by reading a book. we can't say the title of the book because it would violate, but it is called the ethical slug . yes, but it's not ethical slug. yes, but it's not that. it's some the word. yes, the promiscuous overly promiscuous person. yes we've got a photo there of that . i
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got a photo there of that. i thought it was me first. yes, but i know i can see now it's. yeah. what it's some other things. david. hey, look okay, so. so now polyamory. josh is it not the case that most people just you fancy more than one person in their life? and if you act on it, you're either cheating or you're pollyanna. and if you say you're polyamorous, get virtue polyamorous, then you get virtue points. well, was i was going points. well, i was i was going to say exactly that because now technically part of technically they're part of the queen technically they're part of the queer, marginalised, queer, they're marginalised, lgbt . q i a plus, exactly , yes. lgbt. q i a plus, exactly, yes. essentially because you know that though, right. so is the point is a lot of the most now of the lgbtq community are straight. yeah, basically, yeah . that's really, really boring, you know, but people have a identify themselves into an oppressed classes nonsense. jim my oppressed classes nonsense. jim my favourite thing these my favourite thing all these flags is you know what kind of the straight flag i do. yeah it's beige . yeah, it's beige. it's beige. yeah, it's beige. bofingl it's beige. yeah, it's beige. boring i thought it was grey actually, but either isn't right. yeah. anyway, we're going to on to one. the male to move on to this one. the male has one about only has this one about not only cultural decay, but also the
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rise narcissistic entitlement rise of narcissistic entitlement . i think this is actually a really good story. rise of the divorce rages re how newly single people are now sending a loved wish list of loved one's wish list of essential items. so what a great idea. like you break up, you run out, or you you're i mean, hopefully that will never happen to me and whatever. but the point is, you you don't have all the essentials . you don't have the essentials. you don't have sheets, you don't have because sheets, you don't have because she took everything . is that she took everything. is that what you do here? and so this is a way people say, oh, how can i help you? you're saying, all right, well, could you go in here and, put some money into this got a john lewis this okay, i've got a john lewis and sort out again. do you and i'll sort out again. do you think is a good idea, think this is a good idea, francis? yeah, i do think it's a good idea. think, you know, good idea. i think, you know, when be honest, they when let's be honest, when they a a of the time men a divorce a lot of the time men we don't do is one and the divorce yeah yeah is divorce and yeah yeah that is that fact and i'm a mentor that is a fact and i'm a mentor activist and it means that some blokes will be able to get themselves back on their feet and bond you toaster. okay there we go we can i think we've just
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got time for one more. this one is from monday's male francis . is from monday's male francis. what earth is this ? so, yes. what on earth is this? so, yes. so this about how if your uncle turns out a more actually be good for you for squatting above the toilet seat to not using a pillow to follow in the wim hof technique of co showers. and they're saying that although he might make you feel uncomfortable , it might be uncomfortable, it might be unpleasant. turns out you will live longer. so it's better. it's better for us to have a little bit of discomfort in our lives. absolutely. absolutely just you've got a lot of discomfort. so i do have a log of this at 2000, 20, 20, 23 to 3. israeli researcher basically studied people's the angle which they went to the toilet. and if you you know you don't need to demonstrate you've done these. yes okay well okay. but the mike just just remember, you've had the children these your hips and then he proved that it took half then he proved that it took half the amount of time. think of all the amount of time. think of all
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the time that's going to say well, well, another don't just sit down might write another great life hack from josh harry there listen the show is nearly over now josh goodness sake right nearly over we're going to take look at the front covers of monday's papers before we go the daily mail has body found less than a mile from where she vanished. this this is the ongoing nicola bulley investigation. the telegraph bodyin investigation. the telegraph body in search for missing nicola the guardian has top scientists issued stark warnings on shattered health care workers. the times going with the nicola bulley story as well . but he found a mile from where he vanished the daily star. this is an old story drums rush. there's gold and then the birmingham hills apparently there is gold to be found in birmingham that all that birmingham. that is all that we've got for. i want to thank my guests , josh, howie my wonderful guests, josh, howie and . tomorrow night, and francis. tomorrow night, simon evans is going to be joined by leo kearse. and josh howie , again, josh is sleeping howie, again, josh is sleeping here overnight. he has a bunk . here overnight. he has a bunk. and listen, if you are watching
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channel good evening. i'm tatiana's sanchez in the gb newsroom lancashire police are working to identify a body that was recovered from the river wyre. it was located in the area where mother of two nicola bulley disappeared more than three weeks ago. they're currently treating the death as unexplained and say her family has been informed of the latest development. the home secretary suella braverman has described the news as heartbreaking and distressing. former detective chief inspector mike neville
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says the post—mortem examination and might not give us information about what happened. there'll be a formal identification of the body. obviously if his neck has been in the river along with you nearly three weeks of our best voluntary weeks. but what the what whether the post—mortem can ever tell us whether she entered deliberately or by accident . deliberately or by accident. perhaps we'll never know . it's perhaps we'll never know. it's been too much speculation in this case. of course, we've had all sorts of ghouls going down there and causing even more harm to the family. so the sooner the police can get the post—mortem and the identification of . i'm and the identification of. i'm sure they'll be keen to get that information out there . a cabinet information out there. a cabinet minister says boris johnson's intervention on the northern ireland protocol is unhelpful because there's still of work to because there's still of work to be done. mr. johnson's warning that scrapping bill would be a great mistake and that comes a day after rishi sunak and the european commission president said they've made very good progress on fixing problems with
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