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northern ireland protocol. and joining me on talking pints, a world record holding former first class cricketer pat pocock . and we'll talk about the incredible revival of english cricket. but before all of that, let's get more news with polly middlehurst . nigel you and good middlehurst. nigel you and good evening to you. our top story on gb news tonight, us president joe biden says the united states will announce new sanctions against russia this week . biden against russia this week. biden has been speaking to thousands , has been speaking to thousands, thousands who gathered in the centre of warsaw , telling the centre of warsaw, telling the crowds that the ukrainian people's love of their country will prevail, in the war against russia . it follows talks he held russia. it follows talks he held this afternoon and with the president of poland, a day after his surprise visit to ukraine. well, the two leaders today addressed secure city issues and growing nato's presence in poland . the west was not poland. the west was not plotting to attack russia . as
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plotting to attack russia. as putin said today. plotting to attack russia. as putin said today . and millions putin said today. and millions of russian citizens only want to live in peace with their neighbours. are not the enemy. this war is never a necessity . this war is never a necessity. it's a tragedy . well, earlier, it's a tragedy. well, earlier, all the us secretary of state , all the us secretary of state, antony blinken said russia's decision to suspend its participate in a nuclear treaty is deeply unfortunate and irresponsible. vladimir putin made the announcement during a major speech on the war in ukraine, where he also accused the west of trying to acquire limitless power. russia has now the us ambassador over what it describes as an aggressive course set by washington . but course set by washington. but russia does not abandon the treaty but suspends its participation before resuming the discussion of this treaty. we must first understand what does such . countries of nato does such. countries of nato like france and great britain aspire to do .7 and how will we aspire to do.7 and how will we take that aspire to do? and how will we take that strategic also into
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account ? well, in news here at account? well, in news here at home, a former conservative mp jailed for sexually assaulting a teenager has been freed from prison after serving half his term . imran ahmed khan was term. imran ahmed khan was jailed for 18 months last may for groping a 15 year old boy after a party in 2008. the 49 year old lost a court of appeal challenge against his conviction and sentence in december . and sentence in december. supermarkets are going to be rationing a growing of fruits and vegetables . asda is allowing and vegetables. asda is allowing customers a maximum of just three items from a list of eight, which includes tomatoes, broccoli and raspberries . broccoli and raspberries. morrisons will be following suit with restrictions in place from wednesday . but weather across with restrictions in place from europe and africa is being blamed for the disruption in supply chains with retail owners warning the situation could last for weeks . and lastly, the for weeks. and lastly, the princess of wales has visited a care home for elderly people in berkshire today . and as it's berkshire today. and as it's pancake day , kate picked up some
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pancake day, kate picked up some batter. a spatula and a frying pan to flip some culinary treats. however even the princess had to admit she didn't have much flair for it. she even said her children may boycott her pancakes after seeing her attempt, which she called a congealed blob. you're up to date on tv, online and dvb plus radio gb news. now it's time for fresh . fresh. well whether or not the conservative party is about to go back into a period of internecine warfare. all will be revealed the course of the next few days . we tend to obsess few days. we tend to obsess a bit about the conservative party in the media, although of course they rather obsess about themselves. maybe we don't pay enough attention to sir keir starmer and what he's doing in the labour party. now i want to give him ten out of ten for booting out jeremy corbyn. that
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i think is a very, very smart move. corbyn contributed more to that 80 seat majority with johnson than anyone's given him credit for. i think a lot of people in the midlands of the nonh people in the midlands of the north just couldn't stand it, didn't feel that he was patriotic, felt he'd been patriotic, felt that he'd been too the right. and too close to the right. and frankly , didn't support frankly, didn't support the british army. so storm has been in a good place , but he's never in a good place, but he's never actually given us any policies. well this week he's going to and today there he was at the national farmers union. yes. of all places, labour and the rural economy. interesting. here's a quick clip of what starmer had to say earlier on today. nearly 60% of the food we consume renewable energy for 10 million homes costs audience of 70% of our land. and of course, food , our land. and of course, food, million jobs. our land. and of course, food, million jobs . and then there's million jobs. and then there's net zero a monumental challenge for this industry but one that you've run towards net zero by
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2040 across england and wales is tough , but it's right. that was tough, but it's right. that was keir starmer at the national farmers union. i'm joined by kevin maguire, associate editor of the daily mirror. kevin you know, farming , the rural know, farming, the rural community, rural crime , not community, rural crime, not traditionally things that labour would be associated with being very strong on. no, but you go back to 1979 , two in five of the back to 1979, two in five of the seats labour won and in that tony blair landslide were rural or semi—rural seats and what he's doing now is kind of going back to that playbook and he thinks like he's tanks on on the tory lawn, he's putting these tractors the on the tory fields. yes i guess the woman was kind of market towns. yeah. it's a it is broadening out the appeal he said to farmers today where common consent he went down better than mark spencer the government the conservative environment secretary because he said too often the past farming
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rural have been an afterthought. so he admitted labour haven't always got it right. and then he came up with a few policies that they were like such are half the food bought by public bodies will be grown in in britain which is a big market billion. well actually what he said was more specific than that to be fair. he said 50% of the food that would be procured by public nowadays be local and nowadays would be local and sustainable. yeah. there's one slight problem there. kevin maguire. kind food is maguire. that kind of food is very expensive . yes. well, very expensive. yes. well, i think that's right. the truth is . but yeah, go and buy organic. we can shop. it's a lot of money. and as you know, nigel, brexit also made some food imports more more export. it should have made them cheaper. but that's a separate round. it should have them cheaper out of the because we could put the top because we could put stuff from all over the world. i mean, he said mean, he did say that. he said that the government had given up on farmers. i do think i've been fishing separate issue fishing is a separate issue entirely, think there entirely, but i do think there is feeling since brexit, this is a feeling since brexit, this government know government doesn't quite know exactly wants to do. and
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exactly what it wants to do. and he's picking away that you mentioned fishing . you know, the mentioned fishing. you know, the state i mean, you go angling, you know, the state of rivers and sewage discharges. and the sewage discharges. what's chalk what's happening to chalk streams on. yeah. so it's streams and so on. yeah. so it's a labour need bigger a labour say you need bigger penalties to clean up their water. he goes, he goes, it seems to i get it with, with seems to me i get it with, with the environment and with the fishing you know, the fishing industry. you know, the tories delivered. tories have not delivered. but it's specifics crime which it's these specifics crime which which doesn't get talked about a lot, you know , we hear about lot, you know, we hear about knife crime in london. yeah, yeah. actually there's a substantial amount very, very substantial amount of very, very serious burglary serious aggravated burglary, etc. on and stopping of etc. going on and stopping of that, promising an extra 13,000 police. i think for rural police. yeah, i think for rural britain. but again , it gets britain. but again, it gets said, but it's totally uncosted. yeah well, if it were way a way of costing it, which i've no doubt will be picked apart , but doubt will be picked apart, but nevertheless it's that intention to tackle the problem and when you've been in power for 13 years as a conservatism, it is a problem, why haven't you solved it earlier, or did you actually
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created and people will look at labour and they will at starmer if they he's somebody who is grappling their problems and he's coming up with some of the answers. maybe they'll get a blank check. it may work. but he also said today quite specifically to the farming community and the food, import and export business, a closer relationship with the european. itold relationship with the european. i told you to pick docherty. i'll friends in the european union, he said that's the bit i thought well you do think well well they can be friends on a good day but he here's the point i mean here's the point about thatis i mean here's the point about that is he talking about going back to some type of common agricultural policy? what does he actually mean? no, i think what he means, for instance, if you export to the european union in many cases you need vet certified , whatever your export, certified, whatever your export, exporting , certainly certified, whatever your export, exporting, certainly meat. and he wants to end that very expensive bureaucracy . so it's expensive bureaucracy. so it's not just northern ireland. there is a problem which rishi sunak
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was attempting to resolve, but i think he's going be too weak and he's going to be defeated by the dup. and that's going to be i mean, that's that's going to be very interesting, certainly. but if you're but if you're. starmer and you have a different approach haven't approach and you haven't got a record of hostility to the european union members, you have a chance of getting a a better chance of getting a deal a better chance of getting a deal. if you agrees, if you agree to some extent to go along with all of their rules to some extent, yes. that you will you surrender the abuse have to you'll have to mirror that rules not. yeah, i. i believe you disagree i believe the best deal was when we were in. we're not in now. you've got to try and make it. but if we mirror, if this is the precursor to what's coming thursday and on coming on thursday and on thursday, there is a major speech from starmer. the speech coming from starmer. the five policy areas of in five key policy areas sort of in a sense, you know , going down a sense, you know, going down the same route the senate went. i going to see i've i mean, are we going to see i've no doubt this phrase is about our relationship with europe will crop up again on thursday . will crop up again on thursday. are we going to see policy on
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thursday or doesn't he need to do that at this stage kerry avoid specifics at this stage. i think he can when the government is doing so badly in terms tearing themselves apart and he's going to come out with these five national mission statements on, the economy, health, education crime and the environment, and get some old policies . he can dress them down policies. he can dress them down again. he can talk about them, but addressing those areas but he's addressing those areas of concern , all areas of people's concern, all areas where we can show the is failed at some point it will have to prove how labour succeed. but i think at this point, you know, this in the argument you don't to necessarily come up with all your best policies because if your best policies because if you fire the shots now, what are you fire the shots now, what are you going to do for the next eight? oh, i'll tell you what would happen if he did it now. the tories would just every single one of them, if they're capable that's actually capable doing that's actually a it's about the brexit it's a go about the brexit though you should be happier as a lever than me as a remainer because starmer has said if labour be in the single labour not be in the single market, back market, not be bringing back
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free movement, return the free movement, won't return the customs three things customs union. three things i think benefit the british. think will benefit the british. i'm i see meetings i'm pleased when i see meetings admittedly between the upper echelons of new labour and elements of the conservatives. i'm concerned. thought, i'm concerned. final thought, kevin , we know the conservatives kevin, we know the conservatives are doing badly indeed. are doing very badly indeed. there's been no rishi bounce of any kind of boris is any kind of tool. boris is sharpening not going to see a sharpening is not going to see a blip life. the northern blip in my life. the northern ireland protocol. i doubt there'll be as brave as, you know, cabinet resignations. i doubt that there will still be a big rebellion. the still a big, big rebellion. the still a big, big rebellion. the still a big, big rebellion the tories are doing badly. is starmer doing well. he's beginning to. well. i think he's beginning to. i think he's been lucky particularly over johnson destroying himself with parties. then you had the trust nightmare sunak comes in can't get a grip all that's played to his as is what's happening scotland where nicola sturgeon going and the snp in itself now oh that was that was that was that was best i think it's is beginning to
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find his. well that he's going to the centre ground that's where he's go he sees the voters are giving him marks are giving him full marks for getting rid of corbyn. see what comes of corbyn. let's see what comes on yeah it'll on thursday. yeah it'll be aspirational. much detail. aspirational. not much detail. i think you're right. it'll be painting a vision in primary colours. but if you look for the detail i think you need a primary colours. thank you . primary colours. thank you. well, as we say, it's going to be a big day. i think thursday is a very important day. be a big day. i think thursday is a very important day . i kind is a very important day. i kind of get the point the kevin maguire just made that maybe he is just beginning to do a bit charisma personally , there isn't charisma personally, there isn't much, but maybe that's what people want these days. i don't know . let's get an alternative know. let's get an alternative view more from the centre right of the political spectrum in terms of newspapers from who is the political editor of the express online . at kevin express online. at kevin maguire's point was very interesting that in 97, labour won a lot of seats in england that had rural hinterlands. is
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that had rural hinterlands. is that what today was all about? yes is this is the assault on the blue wall? i completely agree with what kevin was saying and actually, if you look at the polling, he must feel emboldened by that because he can he can run through the algorithms like the rest of us and he can see. but seats. i would never have dreamed of a like the tories did in, in 2019, the red wall , in, in 2019, the red wall, labour's safe seats . they could labour's safe seats. they could suddenly see these seats suddenly see these seats suddenly being more than possible easily , winnable. and i possible easily, winnable. and i think starmer can see that. and it was interesting today, i thought it was a important day actually. yeah and he was giving details a date i ran through it with kevin you know the 13,000 more rural police officers the 50% of local food procured by by pubuc 50% of local food procured by by public bodies. this was quite specific detail, wasn't it. yeah, most all it was quite patriotic . this yeah, most all it was quite patriotic. this is old yeah, most all it was quite patriotic . this is old patriotic patriotic. this is old patriotic . this is, you know, british food first, if you like , and you
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food first, if you like, and you know, that was something that's been missing from labour now since i think tony blair had a bit of it. certainly in the first half of his premiership. it's been missing from that. the labour narrative really certainly since 2010. and he seems to have picked it up again , which is amazing when you consider this was a man leading the attempt to undo brexit just a few years ago? yes i'm standing beside corbyn in 2019 the election, but that is kind of history in a sense, isn't it? because i think most voters, most voters are looking to what's going to come next as opposed to what has happened before thursday. is the before thursday. this is the really moment, isn't it? really big moment, isn't it? this what sets out his this is what he sets out his vision these five key areas . vision in these five key areas. and once he's laid out and i guess once he's laid out that vision, pretty much has that vision, he pretty much has to stick with that . he's got to stick with that. he's got between now and next election. he does. and there's no going back on and probably wouldn't be wise to add more detail really at this stage. certainly at this stage , not until the last few
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stage, not until the last few weeks of the election . but this weeks of the election. but this is this is a big moment and let's hope quite , frankly, it's let's hope quite, frankly, it's more impressive from the five points made by rishi sunak earlier this year. this striking said. this being said, by the way by a conservative supporting newspaper, you thought it was pretty dismal year for news dismal most of them were things which would happen anyway or should happen anyway . it would should happen anyway. it would have taken an absolute disaster , for inflation to , for example, for inflation to not come down. still a question mark about whether he really get growth going . the nhs waiting growth going. the nhs waiting list should down because they were spiking because of the lockdown and things like i suppose stop the boats. stop the boats well you see that's where i'm most sceptical and i can tell you i've just had conversations just before i came across a conservative in bits who are livid , livid about fact who are livid, livid about fact that again this week they postponed the legislation to
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have these illegal migrants immediately deported. yeah and protests growing all over the country protest now. i mean, schoolkids . yeah. testing schoolkids. yeah. testing outside a police station in yesterday . final thought you'd yesterday. final thought you'd been stalking the corridors today the tearooms . the palace today the tearooms. the palace of westminster was a big event tonight. isn't there? the european research group of conservatives and the democratic unionists . where are we going unionists. where are we going with this ? well, just before i with this? well, just before i came over, i was told two very junior members of the are on the point of resigning , because i point of resigning, because i think that the deal that the prime minister wants is a sell out and they say no , i see no out and they say no, i see no career path for them given the polling . so i think they might polling. so i think they might as well go out on a point of principle and make a noise about it. i think that actually my i'm less sceptical when you i feel that may trigger resignations further up the food chain especially who might be interested in taking over from mr. sunak because it's certainly
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not his position is not so the pubuc not his position is not so the public are sick to death with these universal student union games . they're in a death games. they're in a death spiral. this is over. it's over for them . they may not have for them. they may not have a leader in labour leader with the charisma of tony blair, but these guys are finished ripped each other apart . the these guys are finished ripped each other apart. the public are fed up. you our polling which most generous are taking the uk one has for the last five of the last six weeks have to one points behind. it's not moving. it's not going . people want to it's not going. people want to change. they are david maddox says it's over , they're done. says it's over, they're done. it's finished. well i have to say, they brought it upon. in a moment, we'll evaluate vladimir putin's big state of the union speech today. we'll ask the question, is this war going to end any time .
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soon soon so the big day today in moscow. yes vladimir putin giving his state of the union speech. now, this is awkward for me. the cause of this war is, awkward for me. i can't hide away from what i said in the past. here's a quick clip of me in 2014, the day we are rushing through an associate an agreement at undue speed with the ukraine. and as we speak , there are nato's we speak, there are nato's soldiers engaged in military exercises in the ukraine. have we taken leave of our senses ? do we taken leave of our senses? do we taken leave of our senses? do we actually want to have a war with putin? because if we do , with putin? because if we do, we're certainly going about it the right way . now, look, i said the right way. now, look, i said that i believe we made some terrible mistakes in the past. none of that. none that means i support what happened on the 24th of february last year. but it's a message that putin kept pushing today. this is him
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basically saying today in moscow , it's not us. we didn't do the other side, did started the war. we did everything to stop it. but sevastopol was next. i want to say it again . it was them who to say it again. it was them who have unleashed the war and we used an all using the force to stop it . now he then used an all using the force to stop it. now he then said he then said that the west is in terminal a decadent decline . terminal a decadent decline. here's what he had to say about the anglican and its consideration of a gender neutral god as it became known . neutral god as it became known. the anglican church, for example, plans to just plans at this point to consider the idea of a gender neutral god. what can i say, may god forgive , for can i say, may god forgive, for they know not what they do . they know not what they do. well, that was him mocking west may be with some reason i don't know . and finally, perhaps the know. and finally, perhaps the slight the worrying part where he talks about suspension of the russian commitment to the start
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treaty . but russia does not treaty. but russia does not abandon the treaty. but suspends its participation before resuming the discussion of this treaty, we must first understand what does such countries of nato like france , great britain, like france, great britain, aspire to do , and how will we aspire to do, and how will we take that strategic castles into account . well, that was putin. account. well, that was putin. today, i'm joined by lieutenant general david leakey, former black rod . david, interesting black rod. david, interesting with that speech , nothing is with that speech, nothing is especially new, although, you know , talking about suspending, know, talking about suspending, perhaps withdrawing from a nuclear proliferation treaty is that's escalation . the that's escalation. the absolutely key thing about this escalation debate that's going on, the very important point is that nobody should jerk the escalation . it must be a smooth escalation. it must be a smooth one. and if it's a smooth one, it gives chance. it gives chance for a graduated escalation, little step by little step. if
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anyone jerks , then then could be anyone jerks, then then could be anyone jerks, then then could be a response, particularly by putin. okay. and so i think all this rhetoric putin's speech yesterday, last night, biden's speech today , a little bit talk speech today, a little bit talk about withdrawing from the start today. about withdrawing from the start today . these are all gradual today. these are all gradual diplomatic, sabre rattling steps. i don't see any great risk or danger in that . that's risk or danger in that. that's just part of the part of the choreography of what's going on here. so when two former prime ministers stand in the house of commons last night and suggest the entirety of the raf. to ukraine to be at president zelenskyy disposal, is that not escalation ? well if got to be escalation? well if got to be very careful what you do not what you say . and i think . and what you say. and i think. and i was actually most interested about it's like in one of the
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clips you were saying it showed that there was some very well dressed smartly russian officers male and female . and i think one male and female. and i think one of the key things in all of this is putin, the reality he is preaching propaganda, a conflict section of propaganda that we've just heard to his people and nobody dares say anything or promote anything against that propaganda . and particularly if propaganda. and particularly if you're in uniform and we've seen what's happened, i would i'm very glad i'm not a senior officer in the russian army at the moment, because if i said what what i would and what i would say if i was a senior serving british officer in the ministry of defence or in the chain of command anywhere i would be. and, and i say our generals do tell, tell it as is the reality . but if you do that the reality. but if you do that in russia then you end up falling of 12 sorry, jumping out of a 16 four window and. and this is the difference between
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between . part of the difference between. part of the difference between. part of the difference between the values of what goes on in russia and what goes on here and what putin been saying about escalation . he's going to about escalation. he's going to use nuclear weapons. he's going to do this , going to do that, is to do this, going to do that, is much more than a couple former poush much more than a couple former polish prime ministers making a threat about saying jet ski. i mean, it's of a different order. i fully that i wasn't trying to draw equivalence but but both sides are ratcheting up the debate. what was interesting and you quite right and i wanted to criticise there wasn't really much warm applause going on from those that saw . the one those clips that we saw. the one thing putin did not do , did not thing putin did not do, did not do at all was to acknowledge that a year ago when the tanks rolled toward a cave and when he must have thought that a very quick victory was on the cards, there was acknowledgement that i could see today that it hasn't gone very well. is it? no, he's he's not going to. it's not in
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propaganda playbook to advertise the failures and lack of successes . and so he's never, successes. and so he's never, ever going to do that. he's not going to like in fact it's, quite the reverse he's painting such an unrealistic picture of what's going on in the donbas region in particular in in in ukraine. and that when the russians finally discover the truth as they will, then there is going to be convulsive upset inside inside russia . and i inside inside russia. and i think and one of the things that's interesting and people are talking about it is , is how are talking about it is, is how will this play out when will attend? i mean, it's the $64,000 question. everybody wants answers . well, could there be answers. well, could there be a peace negotiation? is that possible in an otherwise ? seems possible in an otherwise? seems to me this could go for on years. no. well of course there could be a peace. so there won't be, in my view i don't think there will be a decisive outcome on the battlefield because
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neither side has the decisive strength . and to impose their strength. and to impose their will over the others on the battlefield and the russians don't. and the ukrainians don't yet i don't think that will happen and i don't think we'll see that happen even during the course of this year and possibly not even during the course of next year. so to go back to your point and the only way that this is going to end, there only two ways this is going to end is through a diplomatic negotiation which might lead to a ceasefire. a ceasefire might lead to a peace that is the only possibility of a cessation or an end to this. this or next year. there is one other solution, and thatis there is one other solution, and that is if the russians discover the truth , and then that could the truth, and then that could be a convulsion you mean on casualty figures on casualty figures, on. and i think casualty figures would be huge thing if the russians exactly what was going on. and it does
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sort of surprised me that that we in the west for all our our control cyber and mastery , cyber control cyber and mastery, cyber and so on, have not been able to get the real message over to the russians . and, of course, there russians. and, of course, there is real message circulating amongst russians. but so great is the repression and fear in russian that nobody dares say it, even if a lot of people even do it. and but i think there may come a point . and if the come a point. and if the setbacks become so great that the russian elite decide that that enough is enough. well 1917, of course, it was losses in the first world war and surrender to germany that led, of course , to the revolution. of course, to the revolution. yes. and i think that's one of the things we should fear, is that a sudden jerking to this could be bad and in a number of ways , as i said, if there's
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ways, as i said, if there's a jerk escalation, then somebody get petulant. putin could be petulant and irrational . and the petulant and irrational. and the other thing that could happen is if there's a convulsive end within , russia, as we've seen within, russia, as we've seen throughout the last 100 years or more of russian history , if more of russian history, if there is an internal convulsion, it goes badly for quite a few years and i think an internal convulsion in russia at the moment would be worse than a than a smooth transition to an regime . david leaky, a lot to regime. david leaky, a lot to think about there. thank you very much indeed for coming in and joining us this evening. well, it's quite a sombre, thoughtful moment, isn't it? i'm afraid this is the biggest land war that's happened in europe since 1945. and there's no end to it in sight. back since 1945. and there's no end to it in sight . back with you since 1945. and there's no end to it in sight. back with you in a couple of minutes .
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is there any end to this ukraine war in sight ? is there any end to this ukraine war in sight? some of is there any end to this ukraine war in sight ? some of your war in sight? some of your thoughts coming in. stewart says, nope, the taxpayers will continue to be made to cough up to their own detriment. well, certainly american taxpayers, if you believe the polls in america, a majority of americans say they've now given enough to ukraine. nick says ? no, it's ukraine. nick says? no, it's time they faced reality. ukraine isn't going to win this war and we're going to need to trade with after the war. the tories are sabotage , urging future are sabotage, urging future trade because they know they're done as a political party. well i don't think the tories , even i don't think the tories, even on one of their worst days, would deliberately. would do that deliberately. stewart not for a while. stewart says not for a while. and anonymous if we keep arriving , if we keep and anonymous if we keep arriving, if we keep arming them, then yeah, it was a very, very good point. this you know, do we actually have the resources ? and i, i really don't
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resources? and i, i really don't think you know, i really don't think you know, i really don't think view that if we just give them loads and loads of military kit, that somehow it's all going to be at an end. it's not as the lieutenant general said a few moments ago, in terms of what is happening on the battlefield . no happening on the battlefield. no one is going to win this. it will go on as a military conflict for years. there needs to be a peace negotiation at some point . now, a couple of some point. now, a couple of quick thoughts for you. after black lives matter, i mean, they're real. what the farage moments with statues , churchill moments with statues, churchill statue being graffitied . statue being graffitied. colston, a slave slave trader? yes, absolutely . then a great yes, absolutely. then a great philanthropist in bristol. his statue torn down and chucked in the dock. but a out today suggesting that the metropolitan police have listed churchill's statue , the cenotaph that of statue, the cenotaph that of robert peel and many others as
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controversial. therefore, they may be open to attack if the police start to cause some of the symbols of our nation controversy or we are giving it to the other side, we should not do it . archbishop welby, what do it. archbishop welby, what are my least favourite people in this country. there are now 12 anglican bishops from around the who no longer recognise him as their leader because he's about to back same sex blessings , to back same sex blessings, marriages in churches . all of marriages in churches. all of which raises a fascinating issue in scotland. kate forbes is running to be snp leader. it looks like there are a couple of them out there ahead in the race. but she is a devout christian. makes it clear she would have voted against gay marriage ten years ago when it came . but it begs the question, came. but it begs the question, can be somebody of strong religious faith, strong principles and in a modern progressive britain succeed in politics? i think the answer is
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no . but that'll be left to the no. but that'll be left to the snp in a moment. and cricket spoke of he holds a world record for bowling. i'll talk to him about his long career in the game, his test career and the current amazing success of the engush current amazing success of the english side side . english side side. coming up on dan wootton tonight after the devastating discovery of nicola bulley body bringing a tragic end to one of the most widely criticised investigations in recent times. how does the controversy the handling of the case made you lose faith? the police? plus as reports claim, meghan is upset her south malt roasting samantha markle hits back in an exclusive and it'll be another noise of unfiltered opinion from nigel farage. tom bower and baroness cato joined our 9 pm. 11 pm. only on.
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gb news. we do love a bit of success in this country and currently the england cricket team. wow, they won six of their last 16 tests matches. we're doing internationally with the one day game. we've got a big, exciting series coming up against australia this summer to discuss that and a life in cricket. i'm much more i'm joined by pat poke. pat welcome to talking points. thank you very much. great to have you now. and i know long career . they were in know long career. they were in county cricket for over two years. yeah you know i mean and yet in those days it wasn't very well—paid, was it? not at all it just rose slightly as my career went on. no, it's peanuts compared to what it is now. yeah. so cricketers would play their cricket in the summer, they'd have to get jobs in the winter. yes, very much so. what did you do? well, there was a good side of that as well, because if you reach the age of
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33 or 34 and you have to pack up , it's best to have a little bit of knowledge in one trade or another and find out how how offices and how, how marketing work. because there are so of them now who only play cricket and they get to 34 or 35 and they have to pack up and i hope they've made a lot of money because trying to get themselves a job when they've got nil experience in the avenues experience in any of the avenues required play is pretty tough and some of them get quite, quite and even test cricket and you know you played test cricket even test cricket really big money i guess. kerry no, no. my three and a half month tour at the western is my first one, managed a 20 i got i got, i got, i got the princely sum of £700. did you . we have it a bit of did you. we have it a bit of inflation since. but even so it big money now pat your test career they kept picking you
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playing you for that and then they put somebody in. oh it was. it was. it must have been frustrating for you. i mean obviously delighted to play for england and very honoured. i'm sure everybody is. but france , i sure everybody is. but france, i mean, you know what happened with your credit? it does not quite at level. i went quite at test level. i went eight years in the middle of my really in my peak when i when i wasn't picked my first or picked when i was 20 on the tour to the west indies . and my last one was west indies. and my last one was david gowers in 84 five to india . and both of them were fantastic tools for reasons i feel i've been since i used to bowl all day, every day throughout the throughout the whole tour and that. and david said that he was able to control because we did it. we did. said that he was able to control because we did it. we did . good because we did it. we did. good job. yeah and in the end pat, you know, but people are going
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to remember you for a long time, not because you played test cricket, not because did quarter of a century with important honourable though those things are, but because you have the secret of all sporting record talk us through it. why are you a world record holder to those who don't know much about the game and for those that do remind them any who has a record like i had of seven wickets in 11 balls. i mean that was you need so much luck and much just happens to be a by chance now the best player ever bowled in my career was against the west indies , against a very, very indies, against a very, very powerful side with little short boundanes powerful side with little short boundaries and a fabulous wicket that to bat on about 51 overs nought for 150 now i've never and everybody when i came off they came up and in in the side
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and they shook my hands said well blow over and you try to say to somebody after 25 years the best you have about you know what i did and 50 but know everything happened like every time they hit the ball in the air, somebody caught it. and every time they missed it, it hit him the pads and they hit him on the pads and they were straight power out. but were straight or power out. but but everything it just happened to go you know. that's to. go right. you know. that's right. seven wickets in first class cricket at 11 balls. it never be be a it may not be playing at eastbourne against sussex . yep and it looked like sussex. yep and it looked like we lost the match and then suddenly bang bang the wickets came falling and in the end they blocked it out for a draw. but it was good . not so good. it was it was good. not so good. it was absolutely amazing. great to get absolutely amazing. great to get a draw then i that's a story you can tell for the rest of your life . you need luck you do need life. you need luck you do need luck. luck is i worked in go full time for 24 years when i
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when i picked up playing and if somebody gets a hole in one skill takes to five feet and takes it into the hole and you've never seen anyone score a hundred without them playing missing say four or five times. yeah, we just one of those times you said of playing missing they nicking and they're out . yeah. nicking and they're out. yeah. so you need skill to score 100 but you need luck as well. yeah. yeah you do need and self—confidence i mean in all sport it all sport you because you go through a period where you've lost your form and all the rest of it. yeah i mean amazing isn't it. you know, i very keen follower of cricket and you over the moon i was at lord's when we won the 50 over world college know what an incredible day that was but the test team know joe root fabulous batsman , one of the best batsmen batsman, one of the best batsmen we've ever had. yes and yet leader. i think i'm right in saying we'd won one of the previous 17 games. yeah. and it income's this swash buckler a
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bit like a guy you play with who both of you. what was it like being in the same with ed you? it was a very lively experience , sir. you never. i remember when we were going for in a meeting , he when we were going for in a meeting, he said to me, when we were going for in a meeting , he said to me, look, meeting, he said to me, look, pat , he said, meeting, he said to me, look, pat, he said, don't talk about cricket for too long. he said, otherwise we would never get down pub. yeah, yeah, yeah. i've i've said no that's not strange is it. i'm that's right. but stokes is a not dissimilar. is he this big. yes strong a level self—belief that is gifted brilliance . i mean batsmen he brilliance. i mean batsmen he can boldly bowl he's taken a few wickets bowling to everything, but suddenly he's come in as england captain with this coach mccullum with him. and we've now won nine games out of the last ten and we're winning them. i've never seen test cricket like it. i view if it's amazing and it's come at a very good when test
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cricket needs a really good boost of a fast scoring because people have got used to the shorter form of cricket, the white ball cricket and yes it's very good. yeah. how good is this england team. is it too early to tell ? they're early to tell? they're performing really well . they performing really well. they haven't really been up against it much, which is might be the reason because they're performing so well , but they performing so well, but they haven't tested when they're really up against. i mean, every now and again overseas , they now and again overseas, they have they have a session . things have they have a session. things don't go they don't go their way. but but at the moment, they haven't been tested that much. but know we've got we've got a very good side. we've got loads of individual good players . i'd of individual good players. i'd love to see cricket back on terrestrial television. oh, very much so. you know, we have a much so. you know, we have a much bigger audience because what strikes me, pat, is this is amazing. we've got this incredible you know we're incredible team. you know we're brilliant at test cricket now. we've got australia coming up. i feel really good about the ashes
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this time around. i really do . this time around. i really do. we're at 2020 nationally. we're good at the world champions fifth all of it. and yet if you look at the proportion of england cricketers , both men and england cricketers, both men and women who will educated. yes nothing wrong with that, but but given that 7% of the population go to schools at least 50% of our teams in recent years have been to private schools . so been to private schools. so we're not getting cricket in enough state. it we've only got cricket , i enough state. it we've only got cricket, i believe in 15% enough state. it we've only got cricket , i believe in 15% of the cricket, i believe in 15% of the state schools. now, all the county sides, they want to the best players they can . but if best players they can. but if only 15% go to the state schools and the chances are the better players are going to come from the public schools. so there's no there's no other reason . no there's no other reason. skill and skill and they just want to pick the best they can.
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and so that it and so we want to have more people from the state schools playing. we've got to get more state schools playing cricket. it's as simple as that really , what we do, because really, what we do, because actually globally cricket is becoming massive. i mean, you've got you look at india, pakistan , bangladesh, sri lanka . i mean, , bangladesh, sri lanka. i mean, hey, you know , you've got we you hey, you know, you've got we you get what you one of the half and 2 billion people living in those the ipl . i mean it's almost like the ipl. i mean it's almost like premier league football . yes. premier league football. yes. and it's also good the pakistan one has come back into it again and the reception that everybody got at not only the players but but all the journalists as well, was absolutely amazing in pakistan . no, phenomenal. and pakistan. no, phenomenal. and you did a bit of commentary too after your playing days. yeah, yeah, yeah. we've done a lot. and brian johnson and some other people and it was a great experience, but it was, it was people and it was a great marvellous, kind of like work really it couldn't work at really good. it couldn't work at night. it was a light work. i mean, it was like a dial. it
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was. of course it was. yes, of course it was it was very course it was. was it was very good.i course it was. was it was very good. i enjoyed minute and good. i enjoyed every minute and it is funny having somebody it was is funny having somebody talking to me in your ear and these and it gives you an instruction you do talking. oh yeah. instruction you do talking. oh yeah . you know and, and as soon yeah. you know and, and as soon as you hear your name as well you're, you're a professional now better than me. now much better than me. but, but name, you but since you your name, you start to stop talking and you've got to learn how to. yeah now the other great skill that you've got papo cup is, you know, you get up on stage, there's a bit of welsh on you there. yes. and you like to there. oh yes. and you like to sing. yes yes i do. i'm, i'm sing. oh yes yes i do. i'm, i'm emptying some, some bigger places now now . you still doing places now now. you still doing the singing ? hardly. i just this the singing? hardly. i just this was a this was an alcohol charity that you got up and stole the. well, i mean it's i did of i did four songs of sinatra numbers because the ballads and that sort of thing but it was i bet it was i kept
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but it was i bet it was i kept but you can i can when you have as you well know, when you have as you well know, when you have a theatre and you have a blackout and somebody talks. it's called voice from god. and there was a blackout to there was a blackout with to pinch into the middle of the pinch box into the middle of the stage a voice from. god stage and a voice from. god says, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome former and please welcome former sorry and england cricketer. you england test cricketer. and you can thinking, well now can hear him thinking, well now say . to oh yeah spoke out your say. to oh yeah spoke out your man that enjoys life you a world record that may never be beaten and thank you thank you very much. thank you. and i hope you enjoy your trip to lourdes. i'm looking forward to very much looking forward to it very much indeed. you . okay. it's indeed. thank you. okay. it's time for talking points. no, it's not. we've done that. it's time for barrage. the barrage, right. alex says , who is your right. alex says, who is your all time favourite politician? oh alex, this question. it's a blooming nightmare, because whatever you say, you'll be condemned and criticised for all
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time is a difficult question to answer. in my lifetime. you know , whether you agreed with that or disagreed with that, whether you thought she was too harsh at at least thatcher believed in what you said, you could see it in her eyes. and i like leaders and politicians that have conviction rather than those who've come straight from oxford university and see it as a career path . let's take the next career path. let's take the next one. darrell asks how can our government . find one. darrell asks how can our government. fin d £7 billion a government. find £7 billion a day to house illegal migrants but can't afford few quid to repair that annoying blinking light? but you , the palace of light? but you, the palace of westminster ? well i got i got westminster? well i got i got too much power. really sorry. yeah i do love your questions. i thank you, everybody that's been great. i've had a really, really
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interesting, enjoyable but also pretty thought provoking evening . i have to say what you think about ukraine. it's big stuff, but with you tomorrow evening at 7:00, be safe right now it's weather. good evening . my name weather. good evening. my name is rachel ayres and welcome to your latest weather forecast. from the metaphor, yes, it's been quite a mild start to the week, but it's all change as we go into wednesday as cold air makes its way in from the northwest this is all due to a low pressure system just to the south of iceland that's bringing a cold front southeast with across uk throughout tonight across the uk throughout tonight and into wednesday morning . so and into wednesday morning. so this will be a band of cloud with some rain in it as well. quite heavy scotland, northern ireland, northern england for a time . ahead of time tonight. ahead of that, they'll mostly dry, though they'll be mostly dry, though quite cloudy . so temperatures quite cloudy. so temperatures here will still be remaining mild for one. last night, really they that clearing skies they behind that clearing skies will allow temperatures to drop . so we could just see a touch of grass frost here to start wednesday . that front will
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wednesday. that cold front will make its way sporadically. southeast through wednesday, bringing patchy rain throughout the and cloudy skies, particularly across east anglia and southeast england for much of the day . behind this, though, of the day. behind this, though, skies will clear, allowing for plenty of sunshine and also some scattered showers that could be wintry over high ground. it was a go into wednesday evening that will start to clear away from the southeast. i may linger for a time and it will still be quite cloudy here as well. overnight but behind that skies will clear once again as we go into thursday. so another patchy frost around , particularly frost around, particularly across wales , northern england, across wales, northern england, scotland and ireland. and we could see some icy on roads and pavements , particularly for pavements, particularly for scotland and, northern england. this is going to the start of thursday will be another cloudy start across the far southeast with some rain still lingering. but for elsewhere there'll be plenty of sunshine to start the day though rain start to make
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it's 11:00 here with the people's channel gb news. and in a moment, headliners, but let's bnng a moment, headliners, but let's bring you up to date with the latest news headlines and the us president today. the united states is to be announcing new sanctions against russia this week . president joe biden was week. president joe biden was speaking to thousands who gathered in the centre of warsaw in poland telling crowds the ukrainian people's love of their country will prevail in the war against russia. it follows talks held this afternoon . the held this afternoon. the president of poland a day after his surprise visit to ukraine. the two leaders addressed
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securing issues and growing nato's presence in poland . the nato's presence in poland. the west is not plotting attack russia as putin said today and millions of russian citizens only want to live in peace with . their neighbours are not the enemy. this war is never a necessity . it's a tragedy . well, necessity. it's a tragedy. well, russia has issued a warning to the west by suspect ending its participation in nuclear arms treaty with the united . vladimir treaty with the united. vladimir putin making the announcement dunng putin making the announcement during a major speech on the war in ukraine, where he also accused the west of trying acquire limitless power . but acquire limitless power. but russia not abandon the treaty, but suspend its participation before . resuming the discussion before. resuming the discussion of this treaty . we must first of this treaty. we must first understand what does such countries have nato france and great britain aspire , do? and great britain aspire, do? and how will we take their strategic arsenals into account here
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