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good morning. it's 10:00 on wednesday, the good morning. it's10:00 on wednesday, the 22nd of february. i'm bev turner. today it is a big day in this shamima begum story. any minute now we will find out whether the 23 year old has won the right to return to the uk . what will this decision the uk. what will this decision made for her.7 what the uk. what will this decision made for her? what precedent would be set? we could find out
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at any moment if the isis bride will be allowed back in the uk. we'll bring you that news soon as it happens. now, if you're a regular viewer, you will know that i feel really strongly about the blatant marketing of vapes children. finally, vapes children. well, finally, chief officer agrees chief medical officer agrees with called it with me. he's called it appalling. will debating this appalling. will be debating this with the vaping with someone from the vaping industry. miss that . and industry. don't miss that. and motorists in yorkshire are being chillingly to expect the unexpected, as they will no longer be told if a speed camera is watching. we should all driving more carefully, of course, but are you okay with this authoritarian surveillance culture ? i'm . culture? i'm. not plus, we've got some great newspaper stories this morning, including the cambridge university students voting for all vegan menu . voting for an all vegan menu. and tony blair making a public case digital ideas with . and case digital ideas with. and jonah williams . that's all to
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jonah williams. that's all to come. but first, your news from here on around the . world hello. here on around the. world hello. good morning, you. it's a minute past. and i'm karen armstrong in the newsroom. intensive talks are being held today in, a bid to resolve the dispute between nurses, the government. the royal of nursing has royal college of nursing has paused next week's 48 hour walkout, which would have been biggest strike this winter. the government says a 3.5% pay rises affordable . the union wants 5% affordable. the union wants 5% above inflation, but has indicated it's prepared to meet . well, as just been hearing shamima begum , who left the uk shamima begum, who left the uk to join the terrorist group islamic state, is still thought to represent threat to the country. a government minister told gb news a lot of information the 23 year old that has not been made public, shamima begum, was 15 when she travelled to syria with two other girls. today she'll find out if an appeal against the
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decision to revoke her british citizenship has been successful. veterans affairs minister johnny mercer says there's a reason the home secretary took action. it clearly represents a threat that, you know, there is a lot of information in that case that's not in the public domain. i don't think worth discussing it in public. i think those decisions are made in the courts and in the in the home office and in the in the home office and i'm sure they'll come to the right conclusion. the right conclusion. well, the shadow general, emily shadow attorney general, emily thornberry people thornberry, believes people should return to should be allowed to return to the to face justice. what we the uk to face justice. what we don't want and it will be a threat to possibly our country may be other countries, is for there to a large cohort. there to be a large cohort. people who are simply stateless , future, who have , who have no future, who have no hope who living in camps no hope who are living in camps somewhere , happen to somewhere, what will happen to them? what will think about the west? what threat will they be in the long term to the west or their children will be to the west long term? we do west in the long term? we do need, an international to need, as an international to think this and not wash our hands of people . new cctv has
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hands of people. new cctv has been released of a missing aristocrat and her partner as police renew their appeal to find them. constance martin, a convicted sex offender . marc convicted sex offender. marc gordon and their newborn baby were last seen on january the eighth in new haven in sussex. were last seen on january the eighth in new haven in sussex . a eighth in new haven in sussex. a video shows the couple walking near a petrol station wearing big coats and carrying large bags. big coats and carrying large bags . authorities believe bags. authorities believe they've been sleeping in a tent and are concerned about the baby's welfare , despite a baby's welfare, despite a warning by retailer that fruit and vegetable shortage will last weeks. the environment secretary is set to say the uk has a high degree of food security. therese coffey will stress the importance of protecting the environment and sustainable food production when she addresses the national farmers union conference later ? her speech conference later? her speech comes. supermarket restrict sales of fruit and vegetables because of supply issues following bad weather across europe . africa china's top europe. africa china's top diplomat has met russia's
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foreign minister in moscow as tensions rise over the war in ukraine. wang yi talks with sergei lavrov come a day after , sergei lavrov come a day after, the us said it believes beijing is considering supplying russia with military aid, which china . with military aid, which china. now the two countries say they oppose forms of bullying and the introduction of a cold war mentality. political activist bill browder says. china's intervention could change the shape the war. days ago at the munich security conference, the us secretary of state blinken made a very shocking announcement which that he said he believes that china was about to start supplying lethal weapons to russia . and the weapons to russia. and the reason why that's so significant is that russia has been running out of weapons. is that russia has been running out of weapons . they can't out of weapons. they can't produce weapons. they need produce the weapons. they need for war. they're a major for this war. they're a major meeting. today, the us president joe biden hold talks with nato leaders from eastern europe in a show of support for their security. yesterday the russian president vladimir putin suspended , a landmark nuclear
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suspended, a landmark nuclear arms control treaty and warned moscow could resume nuclear tests . president biden responded tests. president biden responded by stating the united states support ukraine will not waver . support ukraine will not waver. and wizz air has been branded the worst short haul airline by passengers in the uk. the consumer group, which says the carrier, received one star out of five for boarding, uncovered as well as seek comfort the customer score of 48. put it below ryanair eurowings and british jet to icon scored highest with 80% zip gb news more as it happens. but now it's back to back . and . back to back. and. very good morning to you. it is 10:06 and now it's a big day in the
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shamima begum case. obviously we've all been following this incredibly for the last eight years since she left to join isis. we're going to find out dunng isis. we're going to find out during this show whether she's still thought to represent a threat to the country . we'll threat to the country. we'll find if an appeal against find out if an appeal against the decision to revoke a british citizen ship been citizen and ship has been successful . will hijab sing? ban successful. will hijab sing? ban girl is , an immigration lawyer girl is, an immigration lawyer and joins now. good morning. huab and joins now. good morning. hijab tell me tell us what exactly will happen today? who is making this decision ? what is making this decision? what will it mean? so the judges will make a decision on the fact that whether the citizenship that is cancelled by the british government of shamima begum . government of shamima begum. whether that should stay cancelled . whether she is cancelled. whether she is a british citizen and should be brought back here for trial and sentencing like some argue. so at the moment, sentencing like some argue. so at the moment , the british at the moment, the british government are saying, well, shamima, we're cancel british citizenship because . she's citizenship because. she's eligible to apply for bangladeshi citizenship through
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her father, the bangladeshi authorities are saying, no, she isn't. and if she ever comes here, we're going to hang up to death. but she's not born in bangladesh. she hasn't lived in bangladesh. she hasn't lived in bangladesh . they're saying it's bangladesh. they're saying it's britain's responsibility because she's born and bred in the uk. so the law actually says that if you deprive someone of citizenship you can't make them stateless or without an actual nationality. so shamima is arguing in effect that by taking away citizenship, you're making these stateless the british argument a are arguing no actually you got eligible for bangladeshi citizenship. bangladesh, bangladeshi saying no , she's not one of ours. if no, she's not one of ours. if she comes here, we're going to hang up. so that is essentially where we're at and today the decision be made as what decision will be made as to what actually happens her. so it's actually happens to her. so it's on point of law actually about the citizenship as opposed to whether she is a risk to any particular population that she might be returned to . will that
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might be returned to. will that come into it at all? hijab. yes, that will come into it at all. the whole reason, the citizenship has been cancelled has been using that clause that she's a threat to the public. so the government will have to prove that she's threat to prove now that she's a threat to the and they no the public. and they had no choice but cancel the choice but to cancel the citizenship because she's eligible bangladeshi eligible for bangladeshi citizenship, it prove of citizenship, it can prove of them points. then the government will win. if it cannot prove all of them points, then shamima will win. but a win in in effect. so far as that she'll be allowed back here for trial. be held in jail, and probably spend a lot of time in jail. so whether you see that as a win or not, it's how do you know ? how not, it's how do you know? how do they accumulate evidence to suggest that she is a threat? what would the how the burden of proof sit , which is what will proof sit, which is what will they bring to the to argue that she is a risk. psychological analysis things that she said in the past. the things that she said recently . all of the above said recently. all of the above and also her associates who
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she's been meeting with photographic evidence who she met with who she hung around with. what crimes she may have participated in or not. and all of that will be taken into consideration. and what the threat is now. what information does she have? what links does she have? what experts these does she have? how she handled weapons that she had? bomb making experience a threat to a neighbour's. making experience a threat to a neighbour's . you know that's neighbour's. you know that's only going to be considered . only going to be considered. shamima on the other hand would probably argue well hold on you have people like that already in the uk who are in prison. i i.r.a. terrorists and they haven't been sent back to ireland and been back and kept in prison the uk and they do have another nationality and they may be born and been born and bred in ireland. so that would be the argument, the two arguments are put forward and. how public will that information should be made in the hearing? will we get to know the detail of that decision or will that be
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confidential? a lot of that stuff will be confidential . and stuff will be confidential. and if we really want stuff to be made public, then we ideally need to bring it back here for trial and have a trial and where the press can report on it. trial and have a trial and where the press can report on it . and the press can report on it. and then the details will come out. so the government are saying we heard your government representatives say, you know , a representatives say, you know, a lot of the stuff we can't release to the public because it's confidential. well, surely the public whatever. why don't you have a trial and let us have the information if she's involved in a lot more like the government is alleging, surely we need know that rather than we need to know that rather than saying we can't tell saying no, we but we can't tell anybody. and could she be anybody. and what could she be charged here? hijab. what charged with here? hijab. what actual ? and would she be actual crime? and would she be deemed to have committed it by leaving uk and joining isis leaving the uk and joining isis ? terrorist activities. ? oh, terrorist activities. being involved in terrorist acts , activities plotting against the state. she might be involved in multiple murders. she might be, you accomplice to all physical evidence . i mean, this
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physical evidence. i mean, this is there'll be very little evidence. i'm just thinking how lawyers think you are one that would be offended. but i'm just thinking, you know, if you were defending if you were defending begum, if she returned to this country and was charged with terrorist activities, they would say this is over the passage of time. we have the evidence. there's no way of knowing whether she was involved in anything. 15 years old anything. she was 15 years old when taken she was when she got taken she was groomed be a very hard case to fight very hard to imagine that she end up in prison. she would end up in prison. huab she would end up in prison. hijab she here . well, hijab once she gets here. well, a lot of the stuff she has confessed to. there are confessions of some stuff that she was involved in. and there might be witnesses. so the government would have to dig that like any case. if i was that up like any case. if i was to accuse you of something and put you in court for that, i should have the right before i drag you through the courts. and the government should have the right evidence. and the government they the government saying they have the evidence, they're saying evidence, but they're saying they can't reveal it. but in a court case the uk that would court case in the uk that would allow to reveal their
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allow them to do is reveal their hand. so, you know, we as hand. and so, you know, we as members of the public know what she's been involved in and what haven't, especially she's haven't, especially if she's been against our been plotting against our country let us see the country and let us see the evidence and then let us see what's what's going on, just as if exactly someone i equivalent of this would be somebody in australia who's been charged with terrorism and the australians say, well, we're going to send you back to britain because your granddad was there and you know, going to deport you there. you're not our responsible party. so we've got to be wary of that. could that open a precedent for that? open a precedent up for that? because essentially that's what the trying do. the government is trying to do. it's is around it's the whole thing is around responsibility . do we bring her responsibility. do we bring her back here try and sentence back here and try and sentence her or do we say no, sorry, her here or do we say no, sorry, not one of us go, you know. she made her own bed and such a high profile case. i thank you so much. that was really fascinating. heart saying bungle explaining the nuances of this case. what do you think? gbviews@gbnews.uk. we're expecting announcement any minute now. we will bring in our
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home security editor mark white into studio when that into the studio when that happens. now, the last time we talked about this next topic , talked about this next topic, the huge of children who the huge number of children who are were incense as are. you were asked incense as may. finally, the uk's chief medical officer has caught up with us sir chris whitty. he's criticised the marketing of vapes, he's described the marketing as appalling, saying it's that some products are designed appeal to children. what research last july found the number of young people vaping excuse me is increasing , vaping excuse me is increasing, with many being influenced by social media. well, judy cook is a journalist who caught her 14 year old son, a vaping and john dunn, the director—general of the vaping industry association .thank the vaping industry association . thank you both so much for joining me. i think this is such an important discussion to. juue an important discussion to. julie let me come to you first and you've got a teenage son then how do you see in your own opinion, the children, the around how do they view around you, how do they view vaping ? see as kind of vaping? they see it as kind of harmless, don't they. yeah but they see vaping as harmless and
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cool and friendly and the thing everybody does. we've all seen it not just in my child who i've caught with a vape and told him off and haven't had any more about that but all his peers a lot of his kids but a lot of kids you see around the street of anything and holding a baby is kind of ubiquitous. it's everywhere. and it's very much the thing to if you are the thing to do if you are a teenagen the thing to do if you are a teenager. so john dunn, director general vaping industry general of the vaping industry associa ation, these children think that vapes are harmless all they . well, absolutely . no all they. well, absolutely. no young person should be vaping it's illegal for under the age of 18 to vaping this country. it's also legal for anybody to a vaping product for anybody under the age of 18 but disposable. they're not new. they've been around for over ten or 11 years. but what we've seen as we've seen over probably the last 18 months and i'm so sorry, john, i'm really just so sorry to interrupt you've got a problem with your audio. we really want to hear what you've got to say. let me just go back to judy
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while we try and fix that. it's interesting, julie, to hear what while we try and fix that. it's intecould g, julie, to hear what while we try and fix that. it's intecould then ie, to hear what while we try and fix that. it's intecould then have hear what while we try and fix that. it's intecould then have john what while we try and fix that. it's intecould then have john saying we could then have john saying that there are clear harms associated with vaping and that children shouldn't be doing that message not getting through message is not getting through to as the safe to them. it's seen as the safe alternative to. is alternative to. smoking is exactly thing. it exactly the first thing. is it has deemed as the safe has been deemed as the safe alternative to smoking and that we're encouraging people who smoked buy it smoked for many years to buy it instead, sort of come off it. instead, to sort of come off it. that's fine. if that's how it's being used. but the trouble is these are designed to appeal to children. they're strawberry flavoured flavour, flavoured bubblegum flavour, that pink, that bright green, that pink, that bright green, that bright blue, that obviously and cynically aiming them at children. i mean you can't deny that. and i'm 50 year old who's trying to get over smoking, going to go out and look for strawberry flavoured pink vape. they're aiming at teenagers and underage cynical and underage and it's cynical and it's cynical marketing go on john respond to that no problem. can you hear me? can you hear me now? yeah, i can hear you. well, thanks. i well, first of all, these been around these flavours have been around for years. is not for many years. this is not a new a new. and most adults use
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fruit flavoured vaping products . but it's when i was bullied, i was trying to make every round it is in this country for anybody under the age of 18 to purchase vaping products. it's also illegal for anybody to purchase for them. well, what's falling down here is this is not being enforced . and one of the being enforced. and one of the things that we've called for is an association is increased up t 0 £10,000 per instance . we call to £10,000 per instance. we call for licencing of vape retailers because at the anybody can sell vaping products , which we think vaping products, which we think is wrong. okay both of you, i'm so sorry. i really wants to continue this conversation. we'll pick it up another day. we've got the breaking news about shamima begum. thank you so white is with me, so much. matt white is with me, the studio. what's the latest mark? that special mark? well, that special immigration court, immigration and appeals court, the ruling has said that shamima begum will not be allowed to return to the uk in other words, that the decision by the then home secretary sajid javid to
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her of her british was lawful on the grounds that she was effectively entitled to dual nationality that she could , if nationality that she could, if she so desired , be a bangladeshi she so desired, be a bangladeshi citizen being the daughter of bangladeshi bangladeshi parents, and she was entitled to a bangladeshi passport. now, and she was entitled to a bangladeshi passport . now, of bangladeshi passport. now, of course, her lawyers have argued that actually bangladesh don't want anything to do with her, said that if she ever goes to that, that she would be tried and executed for crimes with . and executed for crimes with. the terror group isis. but clearly having viewed up all of the evidence and the decision that was made then by sajid javid saif , the special javid saif, the special immigration appeals court, have decided that was right . this decided that was right. this clearly would have been big blow to the government had the sided
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with shamima begum become and her lawyers who had argued that actually she was trafficked to syria for the purposes of sexual exploitation and marriage to a man , an isis fighter, a dutch man, an isis fighter, a dutch national who himself had gone join the caliphate out in syria . they said that she was only 15 at the time. therefore she had been groomed and trafficked and in that sense. she was a victim. however, coming down to the essence of the argument about whether it was right on the grounds of national security to strip her of that citizenship. clearly, sykes said yes, it was . i'm still looking up the detail . want to get a bit more detail. want to get a bit more of detail. and the reason document will bring not to you but a very significant does she have a right to appeal again? yes. she has a right to appeal just as the government have had a right to appeal. if today's
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decision had gone in her favour . so it's not the end of road by any means, you know , it just any means, you know, it just reminds me of what seeing with rwanda and this never ending saga of the government to try to get asylum seekers to that country to be processed , which country to be processed, which is just being dragged the courts as well. so there is no doubt, i think she's been fighting really since 2019, since judge javid decided to strip her citizenship for right to be allowed back into this country to and gain of citizenship as she claims and her lawyers claim. send send me back to the uk. i'm more than willing to stand trial. not that she would have choice in the matter anyway . however, the matter anyway. however, the government has been very reluctant to go down that road for and one key reason it's very difficult to. try to put a case before the british courts about events that took place in a lawless country like syria. yes
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and although there is intelligence out there that been gathered over a number of years by key intelligence assets out in syria, that a to sources have spoken to me suggest you know she was part of an enforcement. religious enforcement group that would go around these areas syria that would enforce strict shana syria that would enforce strict sharia law that she was involved in sewing up suicide vests on to isis fighters and other you know concern reports about what she was up to in that time although . there's intelligence out there that tell the british government that tell the british government that she would be a dangerous individual , that she would be a dangerous individual, be allowed back in to this country. it's difficult then put that evidence before court. isn't it? that was the case that i was making before to my guest about the fact that i feel like it would be very to
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build anything convincing as you say the burden of proof the evidence base would be so to ever see that she would end up behind bars . what's what would behind bars. what's what would happen , though? i mean , say she happen, though? i mean, say she has a right to appeal this. happen, though? i mean, say she has a right to appeal this . i has a right to appeal this. i expect another well, another year possibly might drag on for. yes. because, you know , her yes. because, you know, her supporters will say, you know, here she is living in squalor in the roj camp, in syria. and i'm sure conditions are not as pleasant as being back here , the pleasant as being back here, the uk. but fact is she's not on her own and not saying she has got the full weight of a machine behind her, which are, you know , lawyers, human rights charities alike who are there and fighting this for her. and at every turn they will go and exhaust every possible avenue to try to get this woman back . got try to get this woman back. got she's also got a pr team an hour mark. of course, she has
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extraordinary powers. that's exactly what i see. it is a machine . yes. but of course, machine. yes. but of course, they would argue that on the other side , there is a machine other side, there is a machine in the form , the state apparatus in the form, the state apparatus in the form, the state apparatus in this particular country, the home office government, the intelligence services and the like that are , you know, against like that are, you know, against her, against her best interests or both. these sides will still unfortunately argue , this out in unfortunately argue, this out in the courts for some time to come . all right. thank you very much, mark. let me know what you think about that news at gb views at gbnews.uk. mehmet bakan does not get the right to come back and have a british citizen censorship reinstated . still to censorship reinstated. still to come, every citizen that don't have a choice with us should be issued with a digital id. according to tony blair and william hague. i'll be giving you my thoughts on that in just a few moments .
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very good morning. it's 1025. very good morning. it's1025. this is bev turner today gb news. still to come , a drivers news. still to come, a drivers have been told to expect the unexpected in yorkshire as they to remove a speed camera . it to remove a speed camera. it feels a bit like a surveillance state to me. but first, my panel are here this morning. i'm delighted to be joined by broadcaster and restaurateur tonia buxton and author and academic joanna williams . academic joanna williams. ladies, i need to get your reaction first of all about shamima begum apparently it was, it was right . shamima begum apparently it was, it was right. have her citizenship revoked. that's been proven this morning. she won't be coming any time. i'm so be coming back any time. i'm so surprised and i'm so pleased that the right thing has been done. really pleased because done. i'm really pleased because if have been done , if this hadn't have been done, goodness what floodgates goodness knows what floodgates would opened. so she she would be opened. so she she doesn't have the to be doesn't have the right to be back here. let she's back here. she let she's stitched suicide bombs, on stitched on suicide bombs, on suicide bombers that wants to kill our boys. our boys are dead because of her know all brave soldiers who went out there to fight for freedom are dead because of her. so she has no
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right to be in this country. so i think justice has been done there. joanna did you see any of there. joanna did you see any of the documentaries that she did? the podcast she she's the podcast that she did, she's been on big pr drive. i mean, been on a big pr drive. i mean, she absolutely has. and me, she absolutely has. and to me, this the sickening thing this is the most sickening thing that she's been turned into a celebrity. i mean, she's a jihadi bride as tania jihadi bride who, as tania rightly points out, has been responsible for people losing lives. celebrated that lives. she celebrated the that people their lives. people have lost their lives. and turned. no. and yet she's been turned. no. by and yet she's been turned. no. by her to a huge extent , but by by her to a huge extent, but by the bbc, by who've been no door down to interview her, to turn into this kind of martyr like victim figure who was supposed to beating as some kind of either of you watch the sit down interview documentary that the bbc did with her. i watched part it. i was sickened by it. i'm sickened that my taxpaying money is. this is another reason why i feel that the bbc should be defunded because it's spending my money that i work hard for on projects like this and not what i want on. i what did i want it spent on. i what did watch it show just bits of
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watch it show again just bits of it. i watched the whole thing and i tell you why, i watched it because really wanted have because i really wanted to have an on really an informed on this. i really wanted make my own judgement wanted to make my own judgement as whether i felt could be as to whether i felt could be trusted or not. and i came with it thinking don't think she it thinking i don't think she can i mean, i don't think can know. i mean, i don't think she i sympathise the she can. i sympathise with the idea to 15 years idea that she went to 15 years old, year old girls. as we old, 15 year old girls. as we both know and think. they know everything know everything and they know nothing. so understand nothing. right. so i understand that have been that she might have been available that point, available at that point, but what when watched that what i saw when watched that documentary that documentary was somebody that still honest. still wasn't being honest. i think there are huge marks over what happened to her three children. i didn't buy. what children. i didn't buy. of what happened to those, it didn't entirely there a lot entirely that there was a lot that she still wouldn't confess to. lot of to. there was a still lot of names she wouldn't give names that she wouldn't give up in conversation. so i feel in that conversation. so i feel like justice is probably now. absolutely. i let's absolutely. and i mean, let's bear 15 olds, you're bear mind, 15 year olds, you're right. they do get confused sometimes. they sometimes not quite the difference quite sure what's the difference between for between right wrong. but for most olds, when you're most 15 year olds, when you're talking about what's the difference between and difference between right and wrong, you talking about them nicking a lipstick from boots or, not making a very or, you know, not making a very
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pick. you're pick. exactly. exactly you're not about running not talking about them running away a death cult, which away to join a death cult, which is bigham did. is what, you know, bigham did. and was a decade ago. but and that was a decade ago. but we were all 15 ones and we remember what were like then. remember what we were like then. and absolutely tell you and we could absolutely tell you what wrong. i was what was right and wrong. i was scared mind joining scared of my never mind joining isis this is a big isis if right. this is a big story some of us have been talking about this for about, i don't know, three years about maybe more the fact that we're all towards digital all heading towards a digital future of our life future in which all of our life will controlled by phones will be controlled by our phones and will know and the government will know where every step the where we are every step of the way. we'll finally it's made onto the front page of the papers thank goodness papers today. thank goodness this william this tony blair and william hague suggest is time hague united to suggest is time to digital all. to give digital ids to all. let's look at the detail of this a little bit. tanya what will this mean for our lives? do you think. okay, so what this will mean our lives? the gruesome mean for our lives? the gruesome twosome this twosome have come up. this dystopian what you've dystopian thing. and what you've got forward reality got to fast forward into reality that's happening now. so this i'm talking about kind i'm not talking about some kind of happening now in of bad now happening now in china where they are digitalised it is a social credit system . so it is a social credit system. so you and i you spoke out about
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lockdown . we knew the damage it lockdown. we knew the damage it would be doing to our children and we knew the damage it would do to our health. we knew the damage would do to damage it would do to our society our fans. we're society and to our fans. we're in state because of what in this state because of what they did to us over lockdown. you and i would be locked up. and if we weren't locked up, we would credit. you would have no social credit. you would have no social credit. you would able to go to the would be able to go to the cinema, wouldn't go out, cinema, you wouldn't go out, you'd completely control you'd be completely control because have the same because you didn't have the same opinion of those that are controlling the ids. now controlling the digital ids. now that sat at home that we people sat at home going, oh, that's on your books has on the table already has been on the table already this it's 1030. this this morning and it's 1030. this is this morning and it's1030. this is about tonya. this is is not about tonya. this is about just lock in about being able to just lock in and see your licence. and see your driving licence. and to get and it's about able to get a bank account without to have two people sign it. simple that or more . but the more malevolent. but i think the thing is, if it is simple thing is, even if it is simple as that, still have a problem as that, i still have a problem with so what's being talked with it. so what's being talked is digital id that people is a digital id that people could mobile could have on their mobile phones. a start , phones. well, for a start, everybody has smartphone everybody has a smartphone in this age. everybody this day and age. not everybody a smartphone the elderly . a smartphone for the elderly. exactly. my mother wouldn't be
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able to cope with one. and then she going into the bank she started going into the bank or do any of those or trying to do any of those most basic functions that you do in society. and she was told, well, you to us your well, you have to show us your digital on your smartphone. digital id. on your smartphone. it she wouldn't it would mean that she wouldn't be partition it in life. be able to partition it in life. it's just the moment it's just that the moment i remind mind i mean, we don't know what you would have know yet what age you would have the digital idea. i don't think that's in this particular detail. but they're detail. is it. but they're talking about appointing executive mp so pay executive who are not mp so pay us whitehall approach us to rewire whitehall approach to basically people to science. so basically people making for you and making decisions for you and courage in the use of artificial assistance in schools help teachers more teachers please not robots they're talking about curtailing the power of the treasury to micromanage spending on science and technology what does that mean? i mean, all of this really boils to curtailing democracy. how about taking decisions away from people ? even decisions away from people? even if disagree with them were if we disagree with them were voted in and that we've got the power to vote them back out and handing decisions to these technocrats who sit there and try and work out what's best for
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us. and we have no say over it. as far as i'm concerned, this is a plan which has been cooked up by blair and william hague or they're fronting. ex—prime they're fronting. well, ex—prime ministers of ministers or ex leaders of political parties ex for a reason . and they've been booted reason. and they've been booted out by the voters and they shouldn't be sneaking back in through the back door unless money in this be the one money in this will be the one they will be profiting. there will be people who want push will be people who want to push this will this through who will profit beyond wildest dreams. but beyond their wildest dreams. but we're now. what we're seeing it now. what we were it with, with how were seeing it with, with how the didn't use our the government didn't use our money. it came to the money. well, when it came to the covid of covid kind of deals were making making covid were making for making covid tests these tests more, whatever. so these unelected people will decide where more where this money goes, more money to for this to creates a super pension funds that will invest in uk and start—ups high value businesses. they're going to be money for this as well. that's another way they're going to get money. but i'm so glad we're talking about it. yes i am so glad this starting so glad this is starting a pubuc so glad this is starting a public conversation. i hope every today's discussing every show today's discussing the pros cons of this i bet
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they're not right moving on now thank guys for us. kicking us off , right? if you live in off, right? if you live in yorkshire today or anyway, i really want to watch . he's really want to watch. he's coming to yorkshire first, but it coming town near it will be coming a town near you it's to do with you soon. it's to do with driving and what can get driving and what you can get away that's all. after away with, that's all. after your aaron your morning's news with aaron armstrong armstrong . and three. armstrong armstrong. and three. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. as you've just been heanng newsroom. as you've just been hearing the breaking news in the last half, an hour, shamima begum, who left uk to join the terrorist islamic state, has lost her appeal against the decision to remove her british citizenship . she was 15 when she citizenship. she was 15 when she travelled to syria with two other girls in 2015. our lawyer says she was a victim of child trafficking, but her case has been dismissed on all grounds . been dismissed on all grounds. intensive are being held today in a bid to resolve dispute between nurses and the government. the royal college of nursing paused next week's 48 hour walkout, which would have
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the biggest strike this winter. the government says a 3.5% pay rise is affordable . all the rise is affordable. all the union wants 5% above inflation, but has indicated it is prepared to meet halfway . cctv footage to meet halfway. cctv footage has been released of a missing aristocrat and her partner as police . their appeal to find police. their appeal to find them, constance martin. convicted sex offender marc gordon and their newborn baby last seen in new haven in sussex on january the eighth. authorities believe they've been sleeping in a tent and are concerned about the baby's welfare . up to 260 british steve welfare. up to 260 british steve jobs are at risk after the company to close the cocoa ovens at its plant in scunthorpe . the at its plant in scunthorpe. the gmb union says it's devastating news for the workers and described the government's investment in the industry as a sticking plaster . tv online and sticking plaster. tv online and dab+ radio . this is gb news. dab+ radio. this is gb news. don't there bad. we'll be back in just a moment. don't go
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anywhere. up next, a driver is being told to expect the unexpected and what you think cambridge university students have just voted for. shortly shortly .
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good morning. the suspects tend to say on gb news you've been getting in touch about the news that shamima begum will not be coming home. she is not going to have her british citizenship reinstated . that news broke reinstated. that news broke about 20 minutes ago. if actually you've been getting touch, linda says this country will take any one or any criminals . she might as well criminals. she might as well come with all the rest of the illegal immigrants and criminals. once you go to britain, the government bent over backwards accommodate you. if working person, the if your hard working person, the government tries to do everything it away from everything to take it away from you. lot of people you. that's why a lot of people don't to work cos that don't want to work cos that indictment, linda and andy says
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indictment, linda and andy says in country have official in this country we have official secrets act and secret service for a reason. we do not go around publishing information that could potentially damage our people at our state to put its people at risk. it's a huge story today. let me know your messages coming about that now . speeding drivers about that now. speeding drivers in west yorkshire are being warned that they should expect to be as changes are made to be caught as changes are made to be caught as changes are made to safety cameras are used to how safety cameras are used in the county with one change being. be any signs being. there won't be any signs that approaching any that you're approaching any more? nick is britain's more? nick freeman is britain's leading road traffic leading motorist on road traffic . lawyer hi , nick. good to see . lawyer hi, nick. good to see you . this is this is a change. you. this is this is a change. this is a change in policy , this is a change in policy, isn't it? so at the moment when we're driving along, we see a speed camera sign. you think, oh i better be a bit careful? frankly, you drive more than 20 miles an hour anywhere in london now. anyway and for the taking, those away and does that feel morally like the right thing to do ? it feels like clandestine do? it feels like clandestine policing. in my view , whole policing. in my view, whole purpose of these signs is to
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warn motorists and to get motorists to slow down. and i think if you remove , what will think if you remove, what will happenis think if you remove, what will happen is will actually speed up.and happen is will actually speed up. and yes , will be more up. and yes, will be more prosecutions with more people speeding because the signage is a sort of form of education. it's a warning, but it's a form of education. and that's obviously what motorists need to know. systems perfect. but i think the whole idea of, know. systems perfect. but i think the whole idea of , well, think the whole idea of, well, let let's just remove the signs it smacks doesn't it, of let's fill the coffers . it's what i fill the coffers. it's what i call sloppy and lazy policing. you know what i would like to is police on the on the roads, in police on the on the roads, in police cars , whether they be police cars, whether they be marked unmarked, ideally both to deal with bad driving because really speeding is only a very small aspect of the bad driving. what we need is a police presence rather than a reliance on what's now going to become a secretive way of testing your speed. secretive way of testing your speed . so i don't think it's speed. so i don't think it's going to reduce road safety. i think actually it's going to exacerbate it and, cause
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problems. so the wording, exacerbate it and, cause problems. so the wording , the problems. so the wording, the announcements as , well, was very announcements as, well, was very kind of it was very sinister. it said drivers must exit back to the unexpected . when did it the unexpected. when did it change that motorists have such a dysfunctional relationship ? so a dysfunctional relationship? so those who are enforcing the rules of the road, it feels much like us against them . it does like us against them. it does that, doesn't it? most are responsible for working people going their lives is not doing any harm . one compared with any harm. one compared with people commit burglaries, thefts, assaults and what happens when you do those when commit those offences, you get a crime reference and often precious little else. the motorist of course tends to be someone if they get done they get they pay the fine , they set get they pay the fine, they set their culpability or they decide fight it. they deal with it responsibly . and the police . you responsibly. and the police. you know, it wasn't that long ago that the police used to stop you for speeding and that that would
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have a salutary effect the way you drove. just seeing a police car would drive, would slow you down. and, you know, when have these signs that exist at the moment do slow you down, even if isn't a police camera that speed cameras up and the removal of signs will just cause the opposite effect. and i do tend to stand. how this is going to improve road safety because that's what we should all be aiming for not just let let's grab motorist because it's an easy prey they're going to pay up and this is ideal for a time when everyone's struggling financial including of course the motorist. so i think it's a foolhardy idea i think they need to go back to the drawing board and they definitely need to have police the roads so that they deal with other aspects of bad driving rather than just this myopic speeding. i mean, once be really clear here, i don't want it to sound like i'm sitting here saying everyone should be allowed whatever speeds allowed to drive whatever speeds they you they like. they are not. you know, i'm very careful driver. know, i'm a very careful driver. i've know, i'm a very careful driver. pve done know, i'm a very careful driver. i've done two speed i've only done two speed
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awareness courses , but i think. awareness courses, but i think. but what i found when i got my speeding ticket was that i'd gonein speeding ticket was that i'd gone in one of those country roads. it's very common go roads. it's very common you go from the miles or the 40, 50 from the 20 miles or the 40, 50 mile an hour zone as it was. and you've got a straight a 30, you've got a straight a 20, 30, without without signage. without without clear signage. and we've got here and it feels this we've got here we've was cars. we've got there was no cars. there's no there's no school. there's no there's no school. there's nobody around there's nobody out. there's no nobody pulling out. there's no nobody pulling out. there's no no hazards. that be no no hazards. that might be there. but we've got you. it's very though, isn't . very profitable, though, isn't. this out these sorts of this handing out these sorts of tickets ? well, from tickets? well, i think from motorist perspective, it doesn't really make sense. you know, it's one way traffic, it's always reduced the speed rather than increase it. so you can be sitting on a motorway that 70 mile an hour and it's empty. it could be the hours of the morning. there's nothing about and 70 miles an hour just to and 70 miles an hourjust to slow it. so i think the government need completely government need to completely rethink their approach to speeding because it's in a mess, i think recent surveys you over 50% of motorists admit speeding
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every time they get into a car. so the system isn't working and i'm not in any way advocating that you should speed. but i am advocating a sensible approach where people were speeding makes sense to everyone. it's there for a sensible reason as opposed just let let's grab some some cash from the motorist because . cash from the motorist because. they'll pay up. they're easy prey and that's what appears to be happening more . and more. we be happening more. and more. we seem to vilifying the seem to be vilifying the motorist rather than supporting them. and all roads are becoming safer, safer the time. so safer, safer all the time. so this announcement by west yorkshire police makes no sense at all. yeah all right, nick, thank you so much. top traffic lawyer, that nick freeman might get his number in case on next time. i meet one of my guests . time. i meet one of my guests. be back with me, tonia buxton and joanna williams. let's talk about the scottish snp, the problem of the scottish snp , the problem of the scottish snp, the lead at right nicola sturgeon you were live on air with me last week when you when nicola sturgeon resigned. so in the vacuum that she has left the
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have stepped to potential candidate two frontrunners kate forbes and humza yousaf . let's forbes and humza yousaf. let's talk about them shall kate forbes? i've got a little bit of video i want to play you to understand forbes a little bit more detail . understand forbes a little bit more detail. she's understand forbes a little bit more detail . she's from dingwall more detail. she's from dingwall in scotland. she spent parts of upbringing in glasgow, in india. she studied history at university of cambridge and edinburgh. she was employed as an accountant in the banking industry, not winning you over yet . let's have a little look at yet. let's have a little look at doing an interview about some of her faith values. in your view wrong then for people to have children outside of marriage that that's your view as well mean you're asking me what i impose my views on other people ultimately what you're asking i'm just asking what your view is that correct? you know, in terms of me personally , that is terms of me personally, that is the approach i would practise. but you're asking me , do but you're also asking me, do i think that some of my family who've done that are wrong? do i
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think that's a my friends you've done that are wrong? i mean, i accept . yes she accepts them accept. yes she accepts them talking on sky news that kate forbes to condescend everybody who's ever had a child outside of wedlock. john williams well i mean , i agree with you and don't mean, i agree with you and don't share these views . kate forbes share these views. kate forbes is expressing, but having that what a breath of fresh air to actually have a politician who says what they think that it's such low bar. well but i said many of them are really up in soundees many of them are really up in soundbites don't what they think are disingenuous. it actually us very very cynical and have somebody who's got principles doesn't shy away and pretend to have those principles and actually tell people honestly she thinks well personally i would rather have that even if it's things that i don't personally agree with than somebody like you, tony blair, william hague, who we were talking about earlier, have perfected of the perfected the art of the soundbite, who've perfected the art, not actually telling us what , on any given occasion
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what they, on any given occasion . and you can agree or you can disagree saying disagree what kate is saying here. but goodness me, i don't think it's bonkers as what think it's as bonkers as what some the other people who are some of the other people who are coming who think a can coming out who think a man can become woman just by a become a woman just by wearing a dress, but rather have something that's based on that's actually based on principles what principles and values. what a rival as a practising muslim rival is as a practising muslim as chances are he as well. the chances are he would with her. but would agree with her. yeah, but he he i would not let he said he said i would not let it, he hasn't drawn on it. it, he hasn't been drawn on it. some might say he's been cleverer because this is potentially suicide to admit what kate forbes said there that she doesn't gay marriage well she doesn't gay marriage as well as thing said she as the other thing said she doesn't in abortion and doesn't believe in abortion and he probably those same values but he's been quite clever he said i wouldn't let this inform my she said the same my policy she also said the same thing, but she's to thing, but she's being held to account. yes, being held account. yes, she's being held to said that she to account. she said that she wouldn't reverse gay wouldn't seek to reverse gay marriages reverse any the marriages or reverse any of the things that already happened, which quite an which i think is quite an important i feel the important point. and i feel the same way you do in the sense that she's we all sick of politicians to who politicians lying to us who can't say as clear as can't say what's as clear as day, you know, keir i day, you know, keir starmer i cannot tell what a woman
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cannot tell you what a woman is. you know, basic principles of life . it cannot be said honestly life. it cannot be said honestly any more . and she's right. she any more. and she's right. she said people politicians said people wanted politicians give answers. so she's give straight answers. so she's given straight too. given straight answer, too. i agree with her? absolutely not. but, you know, i mean, i'm more about kind of other more draconian, maybe misogynist laws that might be brought from some other faiths rather than what saying here. but at least it's true. it's honest says it won't let her cloud way that she's running a country. oh i don't know she also said that she she wouldn't support the controversial gender record reform bill. i mean, the fact that she's off on maternity leave apparent is one of the reasons why nicola sturgeon to pushit reasons why nicola sturgeon to push it through if she could. so whilst was off whilst kate was was off maternity leave. but we will we will have to wait and see. there will have to wait and see. there will be 100,000 members or so of the vote on the the snp who vote on the leadership election. think leadership election. i think they winner , the successor they the winner, the successor to sturgeon will be to nicola sturgeon will be announced. i think it's the end
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of march 27th of march. right. moving on. cambridge university students . now these are supposed students. now these are supposed to be the claire pearsall. oh, they're meant to clever they're meant to be the clever ones. clearly don't ones. they clearly don't understand diets understand anything about diets and brain and how affects your brain growth they've just growth because. they've just voted for vegan menu . the voted for vegan menu. the catering at the university i really struggle with this and i'll tell you why. as a vegan, i know i'm not vegan. absolutely not vegan , but i kind of think, not vegan, but i kind of think, you know what? i think you want to eat it . you know what? i think you want to eat it. it's no business of mine. you can all kinds of bonkers diets. you want. but don't limit my chocolate just to limited everybody's choice actually. exactly so i understand campaigning to have more vegan options on the menu have vegetarian bacon meat opfions have vegetarian bacon meat options whatever you like. and then people are free to choose. but when you make a decision like this that, you want to ban meat altogether and not just ban me, but all dairy things , then me, but all dairy things, then you're actually limiting people's choices. you're saying that your choice is good and you are so that that's the right
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choice. you're going to impose it on everyone else. not think that you've got the right to do that, but there isn't i mean, i think they're doing this for various reasons health to save planet, has planet, of course, that has to be the reason for. everything these and also think these days and also i think just what welfare plays what animal welfare again plays out. but what animals. okay, so this wrong . okay, i'm going this is wrong. okay, i'm going to stand here. stand this is a completely wrong to do. it's wrong for the animal it's wrong for the environment. and it's really wrong for our health. i'll so we're i'll take each point. so we're not talking about kind of the mono that they have mono crops that they have example in america make example in america to make almond milk because. they don't want have cows milk. so want us to have cows milk. so they they've killed they we know that they've killed nearly billion we nearly 2 billion bees. now we need to the need bees to survive the ecosystem of the planet needs bees survive of bees to survive this type of farming they do kills off farming that they do kills off our ecosystem one cow will kill will feed millions of people but this of monarch will kill off the bees, which will then kill off society. the other thing is, is things like almond milk when they kind of obliterate that, what they're doing , then they what they're doing, then they
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kill the rabbits, the mice the wildlife that's around in order to get the almonds or to the crops that they want for . these crops that they want for. these vegan things, they are killing animals. the collateral damage of this brilliantly marketed vegan option is potentially worse for our ecosystems and the animals and our ecosystems. so, you know, i don't believe in farming, but i believe in grass, you know. well, for people, animals, the most important thing for me is veganism is not a sustain able way for humans to live . we are not built to be live. we are not built to be vegans. we can there is nothing that we you cannot get b12 , you that we you cannot get b12, you can't get hema and you can't get personal a from vegan food and it's for someone like me for example who's anaemic i can't get a from spinach i don't absorb it i have to get it from animal products you know vitamin k2 which stops the calcification of your bones can only be got from things like cheeses and,
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fatty dairy. so health wise, it's a completely wrong diet as well. it's a choice make as an adult. yeah, that's fine, but no way this be pushed on people . we way this be pushed on people. we should have choices. it's a six to ordinary. really it. i mean scotland now don't have meat in children's schools or in in elderly care homes the government the basically the state has taken meat away there and they're doing the same at cambridge university like to just find it completely bizarre i mean just out of respect i'm a carnivore i'll eat anything i wouldn't have a guest come my house and force them to eat meat mean that would be reprehensible. you know what i about doing recently when you know you go to like friends house is there a vegetarian or vegans and i thought about taking say look i taking a steak to say look i don't which might i mean don't know which might i mean because you in the same way because if you in the same way that we accommodate when people come to your house, if they don't eat meat, you cook them a great vegetarian well, can you accommodate my carnivore but you
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wouldn't do that you wouldn't do that you wouldn't do that that i know you wouldn't do that but for someone but i wouldn't for someone to eat so do people who eat meat. so why do people who are vegans think that because they've got they they've they've got they assume they've got high ground that got the moral high ground that they lifestyle they can their lifestyle choices onto everyone else. so how does its virtue you know we kind of struggle to get vegans talk this morning what do you mean you struggle every vegan know first thing they you is that thing they tell you is that they're vegan. right. moving they're a vegan. right. moving on. segue way, on. talking of food, segue way, london mayor sadiq is london mayor sadiq khan is announcing that is giving free meals to every primary school pupil from the next academic year , £130 million is spending year, £130 million is spending on this one off funding could help more than 270,000 children in the capital during the academic 23 to 24. now some families can observe fully afford to pay their child's school lunch. why on earth are we giving this out without means testing it? well, it's because he wants get votes in this way next year. this is just kind of p0p next year. this is just kind of pop thing that he's doing. it's
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only for one year and it's a complete and waste of a £130 million. what they should be if he's got all of this extra money and wants to throw it around, is to reassess the meals that kids are because lot are getting, because a lot of the stuff they're in the stuff they're getting in school is not healthy. and to look put more in look and put more bodies in people into safeguard for people into and safeguard for the that might be the children that might not be eating because poor eating well because the poor children free school children do get free school meals my i can afford meals my children i can afford to pay for my children's meals. i do not need the state to pay for my children's meals and i'm happy that a good happy to do that as a good citizen. if got the money, citizen. if i've got the money, don't to it from don't want to take it from someone else. i'm paying mutely. but if he's got to throw but if he's got money to throw around wants to do around and he really wants to do something proper, really something proper, then really the food i feel feeding our children because of children because a lot of the time no, it's time it's not great. no, it's very processed. and as you said this, many of them don't even have on the menu. no have meat on the menu. well, no doubt. thing will come doubt. the next thing will come along this free school along with this free school mayor will be that it's not, it's vegetarian or vegan in order to the planet. i'm so order to save the planet. i'm so sick crystal bowl, sick of this crystal bowl, joanna telling me what the future like mean, i think future like i mean, i think you're absolutely right. and
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clearly this is an electoral it seems very much like a criminal actual but think more actual bribe. but i think more problematic five problematic over the past five or years, we've seen how or six years, we've seen how kids lunches have kids school lunches seem to have become political issue, become a real political issue, haven't shouldn't wrongly. haven't they? shouldn't wrongly. and might say you have and so one might say you have marcus campaigning around . you marcus campaigning around. you know, everybody seems to have something to say about what kids eat for lunch school. it's eat for their lunch school. it's not rocket science. give them a decent meal at lunchtime , make decent meal at lunchtime, make it i think robert's it affordable. i think robert's right. most parents are able afford it. if parents can't afford it. and if parents can't it, then that's the problem . you it, then that's the problem. you know, we need to be looking at why. why and often it's parents who are working as well. you know, people's wages so know, why are people's wages so low that they can't afford to feed own kids? that's feed their own kids? that's where i as where problem is. i think as soon as state steps in and soon as the state steps in and starts providing lunches, starts providing these lunches, then acting . it becomes then you're acting. it becomes a political thing it becomes political thing and it becomes about implementing the vegan menu doing with meat and it menu and doing with meat and it becomes more of a thing about taking part of child rearing , of taking part of child rearing, of parenting, a really important part of parenting gets taken
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away. yeah. and handed over. absolutely right . thank you both absolutely right. thank you both very much. just a few more of your views on the news that shamima bacon will not be coming home. that broke this morning. paul she shouldn't be paul has said she shouldn't be allowed would have allowed back. we would have to pay allowed back. we would have to pay keep her turned her back pay to keep her turned her back on she her cake on the uk. she wants her cake she now eat it and peter she can now eat it and peter says bedrooms should be dealt in the country. she allegedly committed crimes she committed the crimes if she found should be found guilty she should be sentenced under the laws of that country. the british country. why should the british taxpayer cover all of these costs? that's the end of costs? right. that's the end of the we've got the first hour. we've still got a to come in the next hour. a lot to come in the next hour. in the few moments, i'll be in the next few moments, i'll be discussing you be discussing why you might be struggling to your hands veg struggling to get your hands veg in your local shop up. it's all about supermarkets in your local shop up. it's all about that'snarkets in your local shop up. it's all about that'snarket ration rationing. that's right. ration ing your food. it's the second. hello again . it's aidan mcgivern hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office outbreaks of rain are crossing the country followed by showers but brighter spells into but also brighter spells into the during the course of the west during the course of the west during the course of the it'll a bit colder the it'll feel a bit colder compared with recent days as temperatures had a bit closer to average behind this cold front. this is the front that's brought
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the outbreaks rain and an the outbreaks of rain and an awful of as well awful lot of cloud as well behind that front something although the rain will continue for in east anglia, in for a time in east anglia, in the southeast, the rain clear east scotland . eventually east and scotland. eventually parts of east england start to dry up. but further showers follow into the north and west scotland. northern ireland as well as wales in the southwest accompanied by a brisk wind, making it feel colder back in the mid to high single figures. by and large across the double figures . however, there will be figures. however, there will be some further rain at times for the north—east of england pushing into the midlands as well as parts of the south through the evening . some through the evening. some showers continue further west predominately around coasts, but otherwise lengthy clear spells, especially for and northern ireland and it's here where there will be a widespread frost temperatures in sheltered spots dipping below freezing . but we dipping below freezing. but we keep the cloud across central and southern parts of the uk as well as some outbreaks of rain. first thing thursday that will keep things frost but it will also a damp in places the
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also be a damp in places the rain to fizzle out by the afternoon brighter skies follow and decent of sunshine for the and a decent of sunshine for the likes of northern and central england where those as well. but further spells of rain push into the north and northwest of scotland by the end of the afternoon, accompanied by a strengthening wind coastal strengthening wind with coastal gales for northern isles , gales for the northern isles, rain tends to pepper up across the north—west highlands into thursday evening , the north—west highlands into thursday evening, a the north—west highlands into thursday evening , a wet day to thursday evening, a wet day to here, but also sinks a bit further south across the rest scotland as the evening wears a lot of cloud for northern ireland. clear spells for the southern half of the uk , leading southern half of the uk, leading to a frosty start on friday. but the rain turns up here later on and then it clears with drier weather for this weekend . weather for this weekend. tonight, especially addition of a barrage in first tv interview as home suella braverman tells gb news she's proud to british. i think there is a tendency to apologise and be a bit shy about our greatness . she vows to stem
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our greatness. she vows to stem the tide of . small boats the tide of. small boats crossing the channel need to ensure that we fix this problem of illegal migration . the home of illegal migration. the home secretary says she won't sell northern ireland and she's not afraid of controversy. so i live right here and talks exclusively to me. liam halligan tonight on farage . gb news at 7 pm.
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good morning. it's 11:00 good morning. it's11:00 on the 22nd of february 2023. i'm bev turner today shamima begum, who left the uk to join group islamic state , has lost her islamic state, has lost her appeal against the decision to remove her british citizenship . remove her british citizenship. get me, get in, touch me. let me know what. you think my inbox has been full of emails about that this morning? supermarkets are rushing some fresh fruit are now rushing some fresh fruit and vegetables due to a mass shortage . squeeze
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shortage. the squeeze on suppues shortage. the squeeze on supplies tell you who and what you might not be able to buy in just a moment. and turns out that meghan markle feels exactly you did whole thing from the king's coronation , meaning that king's coronation, meaning that she prince harry may not she and prince harry may not attend a result. sources are attend as a result. sources are claiming details only leaking out about how the pair feel about upcoming coronation shoot attend . let me know what you attend. let me know what you think about all of the above. we've got loads more to talk as well with my two guests are going to be here this morning. first of all, find out first of all, let's find out what's happening around the world with our own . good world with our own. good morning. it's a minute past 11. i'm howard armstrong. the gb newsroom shamima begum who left the uk to join terrorist group islamic state has lost an appeal against. the decision to remove her british citizenship. she was 15 when she travelled to syria with two other girls in 2015.
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her say she was victim child her say she was a victim child trafficking but . her case has trafficking but. her case has been dismissed on all grounds. the home office has welcomed the ruling saying the government's priority is the safety and security the country but earlier shadow general emily thornberry told people should be allowed to return the uk to face justice. we don't want and it will be threat to possibly our country, maybe other countries is for there to be a large cohort of people who are simply stateless, who no future, who have no hope, who no future, who have no hope, who are living in camps somewhere. what will happen to them? what will they think about here? west ? what threat will here? the west? what threat will they be in the long term to the west or their children will be to west? in the long term, to the west? in the long term, we as an international we do need, as an international community this through community to think this through and, not wash our hands of people . talks being held people. the talks are being held today in a bid to resolve the dispute. nurses and the government the royal college of nursing paused. next week's 48 hour walkout, which would have
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been the biggest strike this winter . the union wants 5% above winter. the union wants 5% above inflation, but has indicated it's prepared to meet halfway. the government says , a 3.5% rise the government says, a 3.5% rise is affordable . and veterans is affordable. and veterans affairs ministerjohnny is affordable. and veterans affairs minister johnny mercer has told gb news bigger rises will only increase inflation in the strikes. helping anybody . i the strikes. helping anybody. i recognise that people want to be paid more. i recognise that some of the conditions it's a public sector's working is extremely challenging. but look, i don't think i don't think people should be going on strike. i think we're in incredibly difficult situation at the moment. inflation, you know, above 10. that is the real challenge and constituencies like mine driving up across the community and if we you know if we just go chase these payroll houses all the time. the bank of england even said themselves, you know, inflation is just going to rise up to 260 british steel jobs are at risk . the steel jobs are at risk. the company proposed to close the coke ovens at its plant in scunthorpe. the chinese owned
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steelmaker says the move is part of its drive to overcome global economic and decisive is needed because of an unprecedented rise in operating costs. well, the gmb union says it's devastating for the workers and has described the government's investment in the industry as a sticking plaster . new cctv sticking plaster. new cctv footage has been released of a missing aristocrat and her partner as police renew their appeal to find them . constance appeal to find them. constance martin convicted . sex offender martin convicted. sex offender marc gordon and their newborn baby were last seen on the 8th of january in new haven, in sussex. video shows the couple walking near a petrol station wearing a big coats and carrying large . authorities believe large. authorities believe they've been sleeping in a tent and are concerned the baby's welfare . the environment welfare. the environment secretary . the uk has a welfare. the environment secretary. the uk has a high degree of food security as despite a warning by retailers, fruit and vegetable shortages will last for weeks . addressing will last for weeks. addressing the national farmers union conference, trace coffee stressed the importance of
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protecting environment and sustainable food production. her speech comes as supermarkets restrict sales of certain fruit and vegetables because of supply issues following . bad weather issues following. bad weather across and africa . china's top across and africa. china's top diplomat has met russia's foreign minister in as tensions rise over war in ukraine. wang yi's talks with sergei lavrov a day after the us said it believes is considering supplying russia with military aid, a claim denies. the countries say they oppose all forms of bullying and the introduction of a cold mentality. a will meet the russian president vladimir putin later , political activist bro later, political activist bro says china's intervention change the shape of the war. couple days ago at the munich security , the us secretary of state blinken made a very announcement, which is that he said he believed that china was about to start supplying lethal weapons to russia. and the
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reason why that's so significant is that russia has running out of weapons. so they can't produce the weapons they need for this war. there's another major meeting taking place today. the us president joe biden will hold talks with nato from eastern europe in a show of support their security. support for their security. vladimir putin suspended a landmark nuclear arms control treaty and warned moscow could resume nuclear . well, president resume nuclear. well, president biden stating us support for ukraine will not waver . wizz air ukraine will not waver. wizz air has been branded the worst short haul airline by passengers in the uk. consumer group, which says the carrier received star out of five for boarding and cabin experience as well as seat comfort . a customer score of 48% comfort. a customer score of 48% put it below ryanair eurowings and british airways jet .com scored with 80. this gb news will bring you more as it happens, but now it's back to back.
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good morning. food rationing. you me? right. it's not the 19405, you me? right. it's not the 1940s, but you me? right. it's not the 19405, but uk you me? right. it's not the 1940s, but uk supermarkets rationing certain fruits and vegetables . i'll give you all vegetables. i'll give you all the details about that in just moment. but first of all, shamima begum has lost her legal challenge over the decision to depnve challenge over the decision to deprive her of her british citizenship . home security citizenship. home security editor mark white is with me now. what more do we know, mark? this broke just ten ish this morning. we had a statement from the home office. yeah, well, this was really about whether that and home that decision buzzes and home secretary in 2019 to secretary sajid in 2019 to revoke her citizenship was lawful. he did that on the grounds of national security claiming that shamima begum was risk to national security if she came back here because of all the intelligence that he'd been about what she was up in syria as a member of the so—called islamic state terrorist group.
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but on that issue of stripping her of her citizenship , her of her citizenship, obviously the british government can't do that. if that renders someone . but it was always sajid someone. but it was always sajid javid contention that she had open her an avenue of pursuing civil citizenship in bangladesh because of her parents, bangladeshi citizens , at least bangladeshi citizens, at least her father anyway. and that avenue was open to a she's never chosen to explore that particular avenue . indeed, the particular avenue. indeed, the bangladeshi government has said that it would not welcome her in the country. however, it's still an avenue open to her. so in that essence the british government are not, it seems, rendering stateless by revoking her citizenship , signac rendering stateless by revoking her citizenship, signac has determined that that process is by sajid javid was in fact lawful . now we've had a lawful. now we've had a
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statement through from the home office just in the last few minutes. they say, we're pleased that the court has found in favour of the government's position in this case. the government's priority remains the safety and secure t of the uk and we will robustly defend any decision made in doing so . any decision made in doing so. no. what the british government has always argued on success of home secretaries after sajid javid have argued , is that they javid have argued, is that they are aware of intelligence. in fact , that can't be really fact, that can't be really explored in detail in a public forum , but that has led them the forum, but that has led them the conclusion that this woman would be a danger to . the public, if be a danger to. the public, if she was returned to the uk. intelligence suggesting that she was part of the islamic state religious enforcement police . religious enforcement police. effectively going round these towns and villages in syria
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enforcing strict search sharia law that she was also involved in more activity around actually terrorist acts such as sowing suicide vests on to isis before they went to carry out bomb attacks in syria and in northern iraq. so they are aware the british government, they see that she is a danger. but there's a difference between being aware of the intelligence that a danger and having enough to put before the courts . to put before the courts. shamima begum supporters have always said, bring her here , always said, bring her here, prosecute her. if you have the evidence. but the fact is it is very, very difficult to put a case before the british with enoughin case before the british with enough in the way of robust evidence for events that took place in a lawless country by terrorists. absolutely right. thank you, mark. well i'm going
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to talk to will and that will get us now. a security expert will. good morning. good to see you. was this a surprise that this result resort? she's had a very pr campaign running here for the last few months. shemima bacon. bbc funded podcast documents painting her out . i documents painting her out. i think it was called i'm not a monster. has it worked for in the court though, has it? no hasn't. and i'm very pleased that the judicial system has stood this up and have denied her returning to the uk marks. points are valid and there is especially the points about intelligence that was gathered on the ground. there's a distinct between intelligence and evidence and the intelligence leads to us and actually able to understand that. shamima begum was not the innocent sort of participant in islamic , as she's always claimed islamic, as she's always claimed to be, but she was actually actively involved in assisting and abating terrorists. now, this in itself, in the united
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kingdom is a terrorist offence . kingdom is a terrorist offence. so the fact that she's it down there in syria means that obviously she is someone that is regarded very seriously as a potential threat to the uk if she does return. i don't know whether you saw the documentary, will that covered shamima begum you did you say that it was about an hour long and i watched sort of with kind of queasy feeling in my stomach because i was in in this because i didn't feel that she had a right to such a powerful pr campaign running for her. i don't know about you, but i came away thinking wasn't terribly bright. she being terribly honest . and i she being terribly honest. and i think there were some still some question over whether she could be a risk . you're absolutely be a risk. you're absolutely right, bev. i mean, there were a lot questions and i'm actually quite appalled as a taxpaying member of the general public that bbc did such an that the bbc did such an extensive podcast on i am not a monster. you know that surely would have served far better
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than being investor in a platform for shamima , who is platform for shamima, who is dupuchous platform for shamima, who is duplicitous at to actually really look at the story around her family, look at the story of families that are affected by individuals that are radicalised . and, you know, although the argument they're pushing through right now. bev that she was trafficked, she manipulated, she was and that doesn't was groom and that doesn't diminish the threat that she potentially presents having been through that process , she was through that process, she was very compliant with what she did , that there were a number of other that no doubt mark also aware of, which is to do with women, how they were treated there, how they were used as slaves . and, you know, right slaves. and, you know, right along to the fact that she showed zero remorse when she was found in 19 in the syrian refugee camp, there was she's very a reliable witness, isn't she ? and in a way in a way she? and in a way in a way that's why it would be quite nice to see in court because what she said in the interviews in 2019, in the camp, she contradicted in the interviews
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in 2023. so 2019, she quite casually to the journalist that found her. well, you i saw severed heads in the dustbins and yet in 2023, in the interview with the bbc , she said interview with the bbc, she said 2022, i guess it was the end of she said, i didn't ever see any evidence of any violence, any bloodshed. and i just thought, you , you know, still not being you, you know, still not being with us now and well, what do you think ? what do you think the you think? what do you think the chances are of getting back here now ? would you if the i know now? would you if the i know you're not a legal expert, a security expert. well, but particularly given the tide of feeling , think this is being feeling, think this is being rejoicing inbox this morning rejoicing my inbox this morning is a lot of people saying this was right the government was the right the government will keep pushing back will have keep pushing back even from political point of view from a political point of view won't absolutely. from a political point of view won�*i absolutely. from a political point of view won�*i mean absolutely. from a political point of view won�*i mean , absolutely. from a political point of view won�*i mean , there jsolutely. from a political point of view won�*i mean , there isylutely. from a political point of view won�*i mean , there is thisly. from a political point of view won�*i mean , there is this avenue and i mean, there is this avenue and i think as as there is this avenue that's open for her to potentially return to bangladesh, although the bangladesh, although the bangladesh authorities have actually that any terrorist actually said that any terrorist obviously returning the country would subjected to the death would be subjected to the death sentence, there is still this
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clause within her nationality, her dual nationality entitlement that actually keeps us in this stateless position. now there have already been a number individuals that the 400 or so british nationals who went down to join islamic state around about to 2050 who have returned to the united kingdom. there is also this expatriate community down with islamic state and people may think islamic state is over. they finished they're still continuing . they're still still continuing. they're still very much active in and iraq. they still out attacks. they're still terrorist events overseas in the united kingdom, in europe and elsewhere. you know, this is still very prevalent threat . and still very prevalent threat. and she is not a nut in. her participation with this. so as you rightly say, you the nail on the head. on the head , you know, the head. on the head, you know, she is contradicts the self. so different times that these arguments she's put forward is valid arguments for her to be removed from this refugee displacement camp because she's at risk from other islamic state
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members that are actually that are water that you're so right with. and what you made me think of as well, those who are still terrorist intent, isis, daesh , terrorist intent, isis, daesh, whatever you want to call them now, they would see this as a triumph if she home, it could galvanise it embolden them to then carry out acts because look, where is soft touch we'll get it's always nice to see right now moving on as to and morrisons have introduced rationing on staple fruit and vegetables cucumbers to peppers and tomato . yesterday asda and tomato. yesterday asda introduced limit of three items per customer for some veg, while morrisons announced limits of two on products such cucumbers. so joining me now is get the bottom of is consumer journalist harry wallop good morning harry is it 1946 or is it 2023? how have we to the point where our shops are telling we can only buy a certain number of certain items ? well this is not the items? well this is not the first time this has happened in recent years. i mean, not just with the run up to covid when
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there were shortages on shelves and supermarkets responded by asking us not to stockpile . this asking us not to stockpile. this also happened actually quite recently in, 2017, when there was a shortage of which people got into a real tizz about . got into a real tizz about. there are three factors happening here. one is very strange weather in the south of europe and africa. it was hailstorms in the sahara desert, which is very strange for the end of january, start of february . and then there are two february. and then there are two other things enormous price of energy, tomato and cucumbers, a very energy intensive crops , very energy intensive crops, especially when they grow in northern. and then the third aspect is brexit, which has made life a lot more difficult for export . a fresh fruit and veg export. a fresh fruit and veg from southern europe. and that's where get a lot of our fruit veg particular at this time of year because we just don't grow any in sort of february march period. so what can people do? how does it mean that we can
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just we just have to seasonal veg. i mean, this is part of the problem because so used to just going into the supermarket at whatever time of the year it is, we buy tomatoes, you know, fresh lettuce is strawberries, 365 days of the year. do we just have to start shopping smarter right now? well is that aspect there? of course. you know, we got used to the idea of strawberries on christmas day or or in the middle of winter for the last few decades. not it's not like it's a new phenomenon and farmers do tend to grow thanks to modern industry greenhouses can grow most crops for as long as nine months of the year . for as long as nine months of the year. this is the very specific period that we struggle in britain to, grow anything ourselves and we rely on imports. but you know some of this is some of this is climate change. you know strange weather patterns hitting farmers. so yeah maybe we should get use to not having the variety of goods that we want state but people will find that hard to believe you know why should we go back
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to slightly worse times than than we had a few decades ago . than we had a few decades ago. and i guess the thing is harry going to be spring soon. we got to start planting our own because that's the kind of world we now live in. self—sufficiency if you've got yourself a little vegetable got well, vegetable patch, i got well, i do enjoy planting a fruit and veg myself for my kids . you veg myself for my kids. you know, self—sufficiency isn't going to source it. we have always imported food even in the victorian , we imported some of victorian, we imported some of our food . we are a global nation our food. we are a global nation and rely on imports. so yes , and rely on imports. so yes, should be growing more stuff. we become more self—sufficient than we are currently, but will neven we are currently, but will never, never be 100 to self—sufficient . the most self—sufficient. the most popular item in a supermarket basket in britain has been for the last decade is bunch of bananas. there's no way we can grow bananas in britain . so if grow bananas in britain. so if we want to live with our most popular fruit and veg for at least a few of the year, you know, we can't rely on british soil alone. okay. thanks so much, harry. i wonder how there
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is a journalist. i wonder if it's like my house about the bananas. sit there they go a bit brown. and then in the you throw them out after you've given up ambitions of banana bread. right. getting in right. you've been getting in touch views on the touch with your views on the shamima story. says, shamima begum story. pat says, if bangladeshis if i read that bangladeshis won't have back. they won't have it back. they consider a terrorist. they consider her a terrorist. they said can go back there, that said she can go back there, that that would be tried and that she would be tried and probably her probably executed for her terrorist says set the we terrorist due to says set the we do want courts using do not want our courts using taxpayers money to fight on just fight applications. people who take need to know the take risks need to know the consequences. right. to consequences. right. still to come, out how the come, we'll find out how the princess wales got on when princess of wales got on when her pancake flipping were her pancake flipping skills were put cameron walker put to the test. cameron walker has details a few minutes has the details in a few minutes
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good morning. it's 1123. good morning. it's1123. this is bad. and to day on news now the prince of wales put her pancake flipping to the test during a
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visit yesterday to a care home despite kate describing her as a congealed blob . staff and congealed blob. staff and residents with royal that she paid them a visit. our royal reporter cameron walker was there . and was amazed at how there. and was amazed at how much misery . pancakes may not be much misery. pancakes may not be forte but princess catherine certainly knows a royal recipe to make it to strive tuesday to remember . residents of oxford remember. residents of oxford house home in slough were treated to a surprise visit by the princess. he's keen to get to know local communities close to know local communities close to her new berkshire home. the family run oxford house for up to 34 residents this time supporting them to live as full a life possible. her royal shared a particularly special connection with norah much more. here's 109 connection with norah much more. here's109 years old. it's your birthday on the set to before nine. deputy manager charmaine
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saunders was thrilled. kate's made everyone feel special. when she walked through the door. i think she makes. you feel at ease because she of very welcome in. she was very kind she was calm she involved everybody and i think that was the most important thing for that important thing for us that nobody out. she nobody was missed out. she literally took the time to talk to the residents and she to the staff hygiene kitchen staff hygiene team kitchen staff had pancake . the chef. had to go at pancake. the chef. the princess saw how cutting edge interactive can help the daily lives of residents. she enjoyed a virtual train ride which helps residents with and had a go at table football on the sensory table . but it was the sensory table. but it was kate's culinary skills which drew the biggest crowds in the conservatory. the princess jokes her children, prince george, princess and prince louis may have second thoughts about joining her in the kitchen. maybe to the ones that you find right now ? you see, there's no right now? you see, there's no way . but what right now? you see, there's no way. but what did right now? you see, there's no way . but what did the staff way. but what did the staff think ? her pancake making. it
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think? her pancake making. it okay. think? her pancake making. it okay . i think? her pancake making. it okay. i mean i couldn't cook a pancake with all that media attention. but she managed to cook one. and i think she had a bit of fun doing it. she had a really attempt, i think. i don't. the pancake issue was her. oh maybe the pan needed to be greased a bit better. the prince and of wales are making a point of engaging with communities on their doorstep . communities on their doorstep. but their tax diaries expect to send them around great britain . send them around great britain. st david's say is just next week, the first time william and catherine will be marking wales's day national pride with their new titles. karen walker gb news berkshire . well, joining gb news berkshire. well, joining me now is rafe heydel—mankoo royal broadcaster and commentator. good morning, rafe . so we couldn't see a face. she had that mask and she's so beautiful. she's so brilliant, isn't she ? at that job, she's isn't she? at that job, she's winning pr competition against. meghan right now, if there is one. yes. hands down. i don't think meghan's doing too well at the moment .
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think meghan's doing too well at the moment. but, you think meghan's doing too well at the moment . but, you know, the moment. but, you know, looking at that footage, i think with the pancake, toss it really sort of captures the essence of the new approachable monarchy that the prince princess of that the prince or princess of wales trying to create . and wales of trying to create. and then that footage actually, you know, you had shades of diana, you know, when you see catherine, the squatting down, kneeling to down be on eye level with people , hospital beds or in with people, hospital beds or in chairs or speaking to children. that's something that diana brought, making the monarchy seem and more seem less aloof and more relevant . i think it's seem less aloof and more relevant. i think it's more clear now than ever that the princess of wales is the monarchy's greatest asset and she's lot more self—assured than she's lot more self—assured than she was a few years ago. she's come into her own and you know, she's a degree of informality, but at the same time , she's but at the same time, she's maintained that grace and elegance and sophisticated fashion that one expects from royalty . and it's quite royalty. and it's quite a difficult balance to be in formal and approachable and fun whilst also retaining your
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composure as well. and i think she's achieved that in a way almost i would say better than her mother in law diana. because diana went into the stratosphere as a celebrity and became rather removed the public. whereas what catherine's been able to do is her her grounding . and i suppose her her grounding. and i suppose that's partly because of her very middle class upbringing, but she's a lot more connected. i think, with people today. so after that, sue, know me of information and, contacts that we had with and meghan a few months ago, they've gone quiet now we have the south park satirical cartoon come out and we've samantha markle , meghan's we've samantha markle, meghan's sister, taking her to court for some defamation allegations . but some defamation allegations. but they've gone a little bit quiet for now. but we're starting to see rafe, these few little things starting to seep out, which is what they do right, insider says. and all accounts, meghan's having a bit of fomo.
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she's feeling like she's missing out on the coronation occasion and that she's saying not going to feel included . excluded from to feel included. excluded from coronation plans. what do you think they're up to now ? yes. think they're up to now? yes. i mean, you have to sort of wonder what sort of alternative she's living in, you know, life on planet seems to be quite a fun place to live in because so detached from from our reality, you kind of go around casting stones and humiliating and embarrassing your nearest and dearest at same time as expecting to be treated just the same as you had been a fully serving and loyal member of the royal family . you know, we know royal family. you know, we know we that they don't want to be seen to be out of the spotlight. we know that the king is very concerned about ensuring that his son doesn't like an outsider and will receive an invitation to the ostensibly . but quite to the ostensibly. but quite frankly i don't really understand why they think that
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they can be treated along the same as existing members of the royal family that there is protocol that was set out the platinum jubilee when we saw that harry and meghan were invited. but they had their own separate arrival . there was no separate arrival. there was no grand procession them and they were seated far away from from the royal family i don't see why they can expect anything more than that on this occasion . than that on this occasion. yeah, absolutely right. thank you so much, rafe heydel—mankoo , that royal expert, you are also royal experts at home. amanda said they chose to exclude themselves , left the uk. exclude themselves, left the uk. they chose turn on their own family . they made their bed in family. they made their bed in america . they can sleep on it. america. they can sleep on it. right. still to come, going to be speaking to a human rights lawyer about decision on shamima begum citizenship. if that's after your morning's news with arron . it is 11:30 after your morning's news with arron. it is 11:30 am. after your morning's news with arron . it is 11:30 am. arron arron. it is 11:30 am. arron armstrong in the gb newsroom
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shamima bagans legal team say they will challenge today's ruling and will use every possible avenue to try to have it overturned . and shamima it overturned. and shamima begum, who left the uk join the terrorist group islamic state , terrorist group islamic state, lost an appeal against her decision . remove her decision. remove her citizenship. a british citizenship? she was 15 when she travelled to syria in 2015. her lawyers say she was a victim of child trafficking . however, her child trafficking. however, her case was dismissed on old grounds. the home office has welcomed the ruling saying the government's priority is the safety and security of the country. intensive talks are being held today in a bid to resolve the dispute between nurses and the government. the royal college of nursing paused next week's 48 hour walkout, which would have been the biggest strike this winter. the government says a 3.5% pay rise is affordable . the union wants is affordable. the union wants 5% above inflation, but has indicated prepared to meet halfway . up to 260 british steel halfway. up to 260 british steel jobs are at risk after the company announced it's planning to close the coke ovens its
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plant in scunthorpe. chinese owned steelmaker says it's being forced to take decisive because of an unprecedented in operating costs . new cctv footage has been costs. new cctv footage has been released of a missing aristocrat and her partner as renew their appeal to find them . constance appeal to find them. constance martin, a convicted sex offender. marc gordon and their baby were last seen on the 8th of january in new haven, in sussex. authorities believe they've been sleeping in a tent and are concerned about the baby's welfare . tv online and baby's welfare. tv online and dab radio. this is. gb news. my panel will be back with me for one last time with their views one last time with their views on shamima baig and i'm talking to a human rights lawyer about that as well, saying to .
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this we turn to our top this morning. shamima begum loses her citizenship appeal. human lawyer shoaib khan joins us now. good morning, shoaib and how does this result sit with you ? yeah, this result sit with you? yeah, good morning. i think it's quite unexpected decision, but my disappointment i think from the rule of law point of view, from equality, human rights anti—discrimination point of view , even child protection view, even child protection point of view , one thing that point of view, one thing that i mean, obviously are positives to be found from shamima side and obviously the you know the decision was one this is the government's favour overall they did find that is a credible suspicion as they put more credible grounds to believe that she may have been a victim trafficking for the purposes of sexual exploitation and eventually then found that okay due to the doubts about her and concerns about national security , the secretary of state was
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entitled to make this decision . entitled to make this decision. but the court has found for the first time we've had a court making ruling that there is a credible suspicion that may have been trafficked. and i think the fact that the government then has decided to you know, obviously we have this schoolgirl, 15 year old trafficked to war zone, essentially to syria from the uk for sexual exploitation and the government's response , that is government's response, that is to revoke a british citizen , to revoke a british citizen, which i think is shameful and any opportunity for her to come home during that time though at any so you know . i have some any so you know. i have some sympathy. i do have some sympathy. i do have some sympathy to the fact that she was a 15 year old girl when she went out that regardless of how mature she might felt she was or the papers at the time said she was a very intelligent girl, a very bright child watching in the disagree. but the interviews. i disagree. but what had opportunities what she'd had opportunities come back chose to stay . i come back but chose to stay. i don't know necessarily. i mean ,
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don't know necessarily. i mean, obviously that is a war zone. i know everyone keeps making you know, a huge , huge issue of the know, a huge, huge issue of the fact that, you know, once isis was defeated or they weren't that powerful. that's when she decided. but i mean, considering who they are and their power and their influence and, you know, this was a 15, 16, 17, 18 year old girl . you know, she was old girl. you know, she was forced to have with men. she was forced to have with men. she was forced to, you know, basically the bride, you know, the jihadi bride, you know, these are born just forced to give three children, all give to three children, all three of them died. i'm assuming that do and say that circumstances do and say well, you know a year later she would realised oh you know just buy a ticket, come back to bethnal . so obviously, i mean, bethnal. so obviously, i mean, i think that's completely unrealistic. you know, obviously it years after it takes a few years after everything through everything she's been through and the influence and it's once that the influence of subsided to some extent of isis subsided to some extent that she was able to make contact and stop this. i mean, the same thing would be said for the same thing would be said for the uk government. obviously you know, operating under those know, not operating under those pressures. they pressures. but how come they took of awkward took so many sort of awkward citizenship? i believe it was 2015 she left 2019, her
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2015 when she left 2019, her citizenship was. so i think , you citizenship was. so i think, you know, i mean, if anyone could have done something to and wasn't the uk government but they were waiting were become they were waiting were to become an adult before they did that or they waiting third they were waiting for her third child die. i don't know what child to die. i don't know what they yeah, they waiting for, but yeah, i mean, i think i can see why it took many years to come to took us so many years to come to terms with she had done and then try to recover from it. so in your opinion, this is your opinion, you see this is quite a dark day for human rights ? i do , yes. and i think rights? i do, yes. and i think for british citizens, ethnic minorities in this country, as has been said for as has been said for so times, if her parents were from bangladesh, if they were white, had been white british for generations this decision, could not have been taken . she would have been taken. she would not have been deprived. she's never to deprived. she's never been to bangladesh and she has no connections other than her father. a few decades ago came from there. so now to say that she's bangladeshi is a responsible thing, i think that's irresponsible. i that's unfair. and as has commented already morning, you know, already this morning, you know, i think international law the
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rule of law, human rights think that this goes against all of that this goes against all of that relationship with like that our relationship with like bangladesh. so a person born here brought up our school here, does something terrible and suddenly the bangladeshi when they've been british and the whole family is british now lives, has nothing to do lives, she has nothing to do with why should that with bangladesh. why should that country i mean, the uk country take in? i mean, the uk wouldn't take someone in if they, know, american they, you know, an american canadian bangladeshi born. canadian or bangladeshi born. they're up there just they're brought up there just because the parents were british a decades ago and. so now a few decades ago and. so now this, you know, this person who's appallingly now has who's acted appallingly now has to come to britain and live here. not take her and here. we would not take her and think it's right that no other country should do that as well. she's you we her she's british. you know, we her what is. all right. thank so what she is. all right. thank so much. human lawyer shoaib much. human rights lawyer shoaib khan want to ask my khan there. i want to ask my panel reaction on that. panel a quick reaction on that. joanna . she's british. panel a quick reaction on that. joa|made . she's british. panel a quick reaction on that. joa|made her . she's british. panel a quick reaction on that. joa|made her what'yhe's british. panel a quick reaction on that. joa|made her what she. british. panel a quick reaction on that. joa|made her what she is, itish. panel a quick reaction on that. joa|made her what she is, iish. panel a quick reaction on that. joa|made her what she is, i would we made her what she is, i would argue that her faith extreme faith and her isi's connections made her what she is. i would agree with you. i mean we're
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being asked there to feel sympathy for each form of anger. and i am quite a nice person who generally does feel kind of concrete. you are a nice person . that's all true. i would really struggle to find any sympathy for shamima begum. i think we're getting kind of whitewashing here of story. we have to remember. this is a woman who, not that long ago was laughing about seeing heads in a bin . and we're being told to bin. and we're being told to forget that. and feel sorry for her. did feel any her. you know, did feel any sympathy ? did she feel sorry for sympathy? did she feel sorry for the people who dying and the women who were being raped, the women who were being raped, the women who were being raped, the women who were being enslaved at the hands of isis? i kind of doubt it. and we're now doubt it. and yet we're now being to feel sorry for being asked to feel sorry for her. being asked to feel sorry for hen dont being asked to feel sorry for her. don't have it in me her. i don't have it in me afraid to feel sorry for her. you're also a nice person to talk to. you really know ? i can talk to. you really know? i can confirm i'm really not. and i have no sympathy all. have no sympathy at all. and what i really about what i really disliked about this is. yes if this lawyer just then is. yes if her family work , she was half her family work, she was half canadian, for example, and her dual canadian identity should be outstripped. sorry yes, we would
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have sent her back to canada. don't make it a colour thing. it's not about the colour, it's about the actions of the woman and she showed remorse and. and she showed no remorse and. as i said, her actions the way she behaved when the british soldier soldier were killed. yeah. so we don't want her to. right okay, let's move on. ladies in mail. around right okay, let's move on. ladies in mail. aroun d £400 ladies in mail. around £400 million allocated for dental care went on fixing your team teeth at home. fixing all of our teeth at home. fixing all of our teeth because there were no available to do the treatment , available to do the treatment, even though the money was there to pay them. can i just ask how our dentists available to be treating all people that are coming off the small boats at the know that the moment? because i know that they free dental they are getting free dental care. so why is that? no dentists available for us when there them? is there there is for them? well is there are two sort of sides are there are two sort of sides of this story know it of this story all know it doesn't to be good doesn't stack up to be good obviously most people now to use a private dental office because there are so few available now why i presume that as a dentist you make a fortune we're doing private work as opposed to the
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nhs work. i want to come on to the that tony makes though the point that tony makes though as moment about the as well at the moment about the fact there is a huge amount fact that there is a huge amount of money allocated to looking after teeth people who after the teeth of people who come across small boats, come across our small boats, don't it seems to don't absolutely. it seems to be a real postcode lottery as well about where about this. things where the more area that live more deprived area that you live in, you are to be able in, the less you are to be able to access to a dentist. you to have access to a dentist. you know, there's been some really shocking eye—watering about people resorting, doing dentistry at home on themselves, removing own , just removing their own, just suffering in agony. and you think, come on it's 2020, we're 3 million, grow your own vegetables . oh, you're on vegetables. oh, you're on tonight on a bicycle and pull your own teeth out. well, in some mediaeval britain but in and you know what it even worse and you know what it even worse and is the fact that this money is a you know and yet it's not being matched up to provide dentistry services . the people dentistry services. the people who most need it is thought to be a dentist is not subsidised by the british government. well, yes, but of course it is, but
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there aren't lot of them. no, but but if they are studying to be dentists before they can go off and do their private practise, which agencies earn more money? shouldn't they be committed five committed to? at least five years of national health work and pay back for and therefore we pay back for education that they're getting and then can move on if it's a good suggestion . one last good suggestion. one last story i want joe, this about i want to cover, joe, this about the cartoonist with an ap the trans cartoonist with an ap fetish invited to fetish arts king invited to speak children's library. i didn't just make that that wasn't word solid explain to wasn't word solid explain it to well you had made up well i wish you had made it up because tragically is true because tragically it is true this is an extension of a phenomena people may have heard of as being doing the rounds for a now for drag queen story a while now for drag queen story houn a while now for drag queen story hour, where somebody i'm hour, where somehow somebody i'm not who suddenly me not sure who suddenly not me thinks appropriate to get thinks it's appropriate to get a drag to front of drag to go in front of preschoolers and a story to them. well, here's another no, not queen, but not a drag queen, but a transgender person with a nappy fetish . and yet sheffield fetish. and yet sheffield council , for some bizarre reason council, for some bizarre reason that just blows my mind thinks it's acceptable to put this nappy fetishists fetish fetish
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list in front of an audience that could potentially be some time. but writing this sort of bacon butty, it calls to 12 on a wednesday morning saying, what's a nappy fetishist? this is somebody would be aroused . yeah, somebody would be aroused. yeah, sexually aroused by people in nappies , a cat and he says nappies, a cat and he says i have a king. i indulge and i refuse to be shamed for it as. well, i think they should be ashamed. i think we need more shaming. we need be able to say this is not acceptable we need to be able to say that if you run a library, first priority should be to protect and safeguard your children actually the come into care the children who come into care not before. apologies not put them before. apologies to thing where i'm to my publicist thing where i'm going read this again. i have a kink. i indulge responsibly. i refuse be shamed for it. so refuse to be shamed for it. so this person's like paying and pooing on themselves and wearing and to be shamed and they refuse to be shamed through. blows mind . but through. that blows my mind. but not shamed . things are not being shamed. things are pretty disgusting . what does pretty disgusting. what does that just open the door there? not being shame to things that
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are immoral and. evil are really immoral and. evil like paedophilia , like all these like paedophilia, like all these other things. why do they need to bring young children ? to bring young children? brilliant. miriam cates, mp friend of the show, actually, she said it's wildly widely agreed by safe guarding experts it's wrong deeply damaging to expose children sexualised material . they shouldn't material. they shouldn't normalise this. i couldn't agree more. right. thank you, guys john williams tonia buxton. we've come to the end of our it has flown by again . coming up has flown by again. coming up next is gb news with mark next is gb news live with mark longhurst i'm bev turner i'll seats more hello again it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. outbreaks of rain are crossing the country followed by showers spells into the showers but also spells into the west during . the course of the west during. the course of the afternoon it'll feel a colder compared recent days as compared with recent days as temperatures head a bit closer to average this cold to average behind this cold front. this is the front that's brought the outbreaks of rain and lot cloud as well and an awful lot cloud as well behind front, although the rain continue for a time in east anglia , the southeast, the rain anglia, the southeast, the rain clear east and scotland and
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eventually parts of england start to dry out . but further start to dry out. but further showers follow into the north and west of scotland. northern ireland as well as wales in the south—west by a brisk wind, making it feel colder. temperatures back in the mid to high single figures and large rather than the double figures. however, there will be some further rain at times for the north—east of england, pushing into the as well as parts the south—east through the evening some showers continue further predominantly around coasts but otherwise lengthy clear spells especially for scotland and northern ireland. and it's here where there will be a widespread frost with temperatures in sheltered spots dipping below freezing . but we keep the cloud freezing. but we keep the cloud across central and southern parts of the uk as well as some outbreaks of rain. first thing thursday that will keep things frost it will also be frost free, but it will also be a start places the rain a damp start places the rain tends fizzle by the tends to fizzle out by the afternoon. brighter skies and a decent of sunshine for the decent slice of sunshine for the likes of northern and central england wales as well. but
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further spells of rain push into the north and north—west of scotland by the end of the afternoon, accompanied by a strengthening wind with coastal gales for the northern ireland. that tends pop across that rain tends to pop across the north—west highlands into thursday evening . dates come thursday evening. dates come here, but elsa sinks a bit further south across the rest of scotland as the evening wears on a lot of cloud . northern ireland a lot of cloud. northern ireland but clear spells for the half of the uk, leading to a frosty start on friday. but the rain turns up here later on and then it clears. drier weather for this weekend tonight , a special this weekend tonight, a special edition of barrage . in her first edition of barrage. in her first tv interview as home secretary , tv interview as home secretary, suella braverman tells gb news she's proud to be british. i think there is a tendency to apologise and be bit shy about. our greatness. she vows to , stem our greatness. she vows to, stem the tide of small boats crossing the tide of small boats crossing the channel. we need to ensure that we fix this problem of illegal migration, the home secretary says she won't sell out northern ireland and she's
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not afraid of controversy suella braverman talks exclusive to me liam halligan on farage . gb news liam halligan on farage. gb news is 7 pm.
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