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over. addresses why she might resign over . brexit. stay tuned for over. brexit. stay tuned for that. not bad news for working women. the gender pay gap is getting worse . so are we being getting worse. so are we being punished for wanting .7 my take on punished for wanting? my take on thatis punished for wanting? my take on that is ahead . and can keir that is ahead. and can keir starmer convince you that he should be our next prime minister he wants to reclaim the red wall and to victory at the next election. the biggest speech of his political career kicks off in the next hour . and kicks off in the next hour. and we'll to you live . and we'll bring it to you live. and of course, also bring you the very latest on the shocking story of an off duty police officer shot in front of children, one of whom was his young son in omagh, northern ireland. my panellists this morning are going to emma morning are going to be emma webb and livingstone . but webb and ken livingstone. but also me thoughts also you send me your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.uk . lots ahead on gbviews@gbnews.uk. lots ahead this let's this morning. but first, let's get to date with what's get you up to date with what's happening around the happening here and around the world rihanna . thank you world with rihanna. thank you both. good morning. it's 10:02
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both. good morning. it's10:02 i'm rhiannon jones in the gb newsroom. breaking news this houn newsroom. breaking news this hour, the number of asylum seekers for a decision on their claim hit its highest level since began. more than . 160,000 since began. more than. 160,000 applications were received by the end of december, up 60% on the end of december, up 60% on the previous year. in an exclusive interview, the secretary has told gb news nothing's ruled out when it comes to tackling illegal immigration. comes to tackling illegal immigration . more than 45,000 immigration. more than 45,000 people crossed the channel in small last year, which suella braverman describes as unacceptable . speaking to liam unacceptable. speaking to liam halligan, she also said she understands why people are frustrated with hotels and housing asylum seekers . it's housing asylum seekers. it's clear that we have an situation in towns and cities around our country whereby because of the overwhelming numbers of people arriving here illegally and our legal duties to accommodate , we legal duties to accommodate, we are now having to house them in
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hotels and that is causing under standard tensions within communities. pressures on local resources and frankly unsustainable. so you support those protesters. i very much understand people's frustration actions with hotels being occupied by large numbers of illegal immigrants or asylum. so what do you make of leader of a council in cornwall calling , council in cornwall calling, such protesters who are planning a protest in newquay, abhorrent, racist and bigots. is that fair? i i said i think anyone contemplating violence , contemplating violence, harassment or intimidation should should desist from doing that. should should desist from doing that . it is should should desist from doing that. it is not an should should desist from doing that . it is not an acceptable that. it is not an acceptable way to voice your concerns or frustrations. we are all frustrated with the situation that we are currently finding in and you can watch the full 22 minute interview with the home secretary on the gb news youtube
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channel on an attempted murder investigation has been launched after a senior police officer was shot in front of children in county tyrone , named as county tyrone, named as detective chief inspector caldwell. he was hit times when two masked men opened at a sports centre in omagh. he is in a critical but stable condition in hospital . police in hospital. police investigating the attack say they are focusing on dissident republican and group republican group the new i.r.a. former mp for fermanagh and south tyrone tom elliott says the communities under be shocked. we felt we were living in a very peaceful were living in a very peaceful we thought that we would pass this and i remember , you know, this and i remember, you know, talking about this several times whenever the troubles were here , but we didn't think at this stage that we would be back to a society like this where people came and shot someone in front of young kids on an attempted murder and, you know, it's so brutal. it was planned,
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targeted, premeditated it and some more breaking in the last few minutes for you . football few minutes for you. football commentator john few minutes for you. football commentatorjohn motson has died aged 77. he covered ten world cups, ten european championships and 29 fa cup finals for bbc sport before retiring the organisation in 2018. known by many as motley, he'd worked on match the day since 1971 and commentate it on almost two and a half thousand televised games . over in the us. a reporter and a nine year old girl have been fatally shot. police say a second reporter and the girl's mother were also injured by the gunman near orlando. in florida , a 19 year old suspect named as , a19 year old suspect named as keith moses has been arrested. police say the happened close to the scene of a separate murder that had taken place earlier that had taken place earlier that day. the two journalists had been covering the incident
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but police say it's unclear why they were targeted . the they were targeted. the disasters committee has raised nearly disasters committee has raised nearl y £100 disasters committee has raised nearly £100 million following the earthquakes and syria. the non—governmental organisation which brings together 15 uk charities, says it's one of the first artists and largest appeals launched. more than 48,000 people were killed and over 800,000 have been displaced . the earthquakes. the money will be used to provide food water, shelter and warm clothing for those impacted . and for those impacted. and independent regulator for engush independent regulator for english football will be introduced to ensure clubs run sustainably . a farm led sustainably. a farm led government review . the new government review. the new regulator will implement a licencing system . all clubs from licencing system. all clubs from the premier league down to the national league. it will have the power to block clubs from joining a breakaway european super league. it also aims to prevent historic clubs from going out of business, as well as giving fans greater input. sports minister stuart andrew
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describes it as a new era for engush describes it as a new era for english football. we will bring in an independent regulator that will seek to ensure that clubs are more sustainable and that will hopefully bring forward more stability . the football more stability. the football pyramid because at end of the day, we're concerned about the fans. they're the ones that invest so much in their clubs. they're really important to their local communities. and we want to make sure that that success is built on. but it's there for years to come . this is there for years to come. this is gb news will bring you more as it happens now, though. back to you, beth . you, beth. thank you, brianna. and good morning. of course, that speech by sir keir starmer setting out his ambitions to the tories in the next election . we will be
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the next election. we will be bringing that to you live a very shortly. but first, an off duty police officer is in a critical but stable condition after being shot in of children, one of whom was his own son in omagh in northern ireland. the police federation of northern ireland have said that to a gunman were involved in the shooting . a involved in the shooting. a sports centre at 8:00 last night on northern ireland reporter dougie beattie. brings the latest from omagh. good morning dougie . good morning there. well dougie. good morning there. well to you. this is a very resident area. it's on the kelly cloud road. area. it's on the kelly cloud road . it'sjust area. it's on the kelly cloud road . it's just between obe and road. it's just between obe and cookstown of course omagh. very very well known because of terrorist attacks . the worst terrorist attacks. the worst bomb ever in the was here claiming many, many lives and people here thought they had seen the end of murder on paramilitarism. but detective inspector john caldwell was very , very involved in trying break organised crime and the new ira
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, as it's known, are very, very lines between organised crime, criminality , paramilitarism. criminality, paramilitarism. that's across the board here in northern ireland, many of those are sort of organisations and i'd say loyalist areas as well . i'd say loyalist areas as well. running those areas with organised crime. and his job of course was to break crime up. and last night he was being just what anybody else had been. he was spending time at this leisure centre training men in football skills. and at about 8:00 he came to the car park outside us. and as he approached the car, two men came of him hoping it up on him. many many times. it's believed that a ten shots were fired in total . that shots were fired in total. that car park would have been full of children. i mean, i only can imagine amongst them would have been his own at point. it's believed that he was shot up to four times. he was then transferred to altnagelvin hospital in londonderry. that's about 40 minutes away. where has
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is described stable but critical. these are incredibly hard times for northern ireland to be standing here all these years on and interviewing politicians . every single one of politicians. every single one of them have condemned exactly what has happened. it's quite shocking , really. is it really shocking, really. is it really a thank dicky for that report ? we thank dicky for that report? we will keep you updated. i'm sure the police are working very hard in northern ireland now to work out that. going to be out did that. we're going to be talking about immigration a bit this of the this morning. front page of the mail amnesty row over mail today, amnesty row over fast for seekers. fast track for asylum seekers. this plans that this one of the plans that celebrated many is bringing in under rishi sunak of course to clear the backlog. there's a huge of immigrants. clear the backlog. there's a huge of immigrants . so i want to huge of immigrants. so i want to know what you think about that. gb views it gbnews.uk i'll bring you all the detail this morning as we go. that is five particular countries immigrants will have 20 days to complete a ten page questionnaire . so the ten page questionnaire. so the home secretary exclusively told gb news that nothing is ruled
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out when it comes to fixing this channel. migrant crisis. what a brave man did her first interview since being appointed home secretary with gb news is liam halligan. let's have a look at what she to say. so again, the law home secretary over 45,000 people across the channel in small boats last year the number this year expected to be a lot higher. rishi sunak his own words is committed to passing new laws to stop the small boats . those laws have now small boats. those laws have now been laid before parliament does mean that the government's ruled out leaving the european convention on human rights in order to try and tackle this vexed . well, i think that there vexed. well, i think that there are legitimate questions that we need to start asking relate to our membership of the european convention of human rights and its operation in the united kingdom . we've seen there's kingdom. we've seen there's a politicised and expansionist court in that regulates the convention. sometimes is at odds with british values , whether with british values, whether it's our ability to remove people . rwanda, as we saw last
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people. rwanda, as we saw last yean people. rwanda, as we saw last year, its operation combined with the east channel and the court have operated stymie policymaking you make you make a strong legal case with respect home secretary but the optics of leaving the eci are are difficult you've got the stomach to leave it clearly has the prime minister at this stage nothing's ruled out. we need to that we fix this problem of illegal migration. that's my priority and as the prime minister himself has said, he'll do whatever it takes to achieve that goal in light of those small boat incidents. we've seen protests around the country increasingly in liverpool, in rotherham, protests planned in newquay some have said that those protesters far right is that a fair characterisation of those protesters? well, what i would say firstly is that violence is never acceptable . violence is never acceptable. and intimidation, harass and any forms of abuse to anybody are
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totally should be condemned. and i condemn in the fullest possible terms . and it's clear possible terms. and it's clear we have an unsustainable situation in towns , cities situation in towns, cities around our country , whereby around our country, whereby because of the overwhelming of people arriving here illegally and our legal duties to accommodate , we are now having accommodate, we are now having to house them in hotels. we are all frustrated with the situation we are currently finding ourselves in and it is it is clear and undeniable that there are really , really serious there are really, really serious pressures on and saying so does not make you racist or bigoted. simon clarke, former cabinet minister, has said there will be a very real problem for the government if is a northern ireland deal that doesn't carry the the dup. is he? the support of the dup. is he? writes listen, the dup are an important voice in debate and in this discussion they can we have
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a deal that they don't agree to . we have always worked very closely with the dup. they unionists, they speak for a significant portion . the significant portion. the communities in northern and they need to be round the table ultimately. stormont will only function if the dup supports any proposal. you of course as a brexit minister in 2018 over theresa may's deal, would you resign over . theresa may's deal, would you resign over. i don't think we need to be talking about resignation. i've taken a very forthright in the past because i found the terms of agreements intolerable. i don't support selling out on northern ireland and allowing the eu a foothold in the united. do and allowing the eu a foothold in the united . do you like and allowing the eu a foothold in the united. do you like being home secretary? well i see my role as telling the truth and then fixing the problem . and then fixing the problem. and sometimes the truth is uncomfortable for some people and they might get upset by heanng and they might get upset by hearing the truth. i'm not going
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to shy away from telling the truth to the british and for the british people. that's my role as home secretary . so listening as home secretary. so listening to that with me in the studio is international security border control expert henry bolton obe. good morning, henry. control expert henry bolton obe. good morning, henry . any good morning, henry. any surprises there for you from suella braverman? no i think that's what we expected from her. she said she's forthright , her. she said she's forthright, she speaks her mind. and so there are very surprises coming from suella braverman with anything that she says. so you it's one of the nice things about suella you can see in a politician , minister, that you politician, minister, that you don't necessarily see of this. she does seem very straightforward, doesn't she? and she does like has and she does seem like she has a liam set then. you seem to have the stomach to pull out of the job. but does rishi sunak do you think he does? i don't know. and this is one of the problems is the whole country and in fact, i suspect the government would feel more confident if they knew
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where stood. you know, to be a leader , you have to have vision. leader, you have to have vision. you have to have initiative, you've got to have will, got to have determination. you've got to have courage. and none of those really are really understood at the moment. he's talking certain words. he's not coming up with the full goods. and he hasn't yet. we haven't seen the deal on on on ireland. and we've still you know, it's all very well and good coming out with five promises, including stopping the small boats legislate doesn't do boats but legislate doesn't do that. just a law is that. they're just a law is effectively a piece paper it's an empowerment but you've to then enact operation only that empowerment. and i see coming out of the government in that regard. well, what they want to do now course, is to clear do now of course, is to clear some of the that would some of the backlog that would look the figures, look good for the figures, wouldn't there about wouldn't it? and there are about 90,000 claims were 90,000 claims that were submitted. so this is only until june with backlog up june 20, 22 with the backlog up until. still got until. then we've still got nearly another year's worth of backlog . what think of backlog. what do you think of this idea ? they to rush this idea? they want to rush through effective delay via a questionnaire, but without an
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interview . about 12,000 people interview. about 12,000 people from five particular countries , from five particular countries, those countries being afghanistan, eritrea syria, yemen and libya, because ordinarily 95% of those will get the green light to stay. good idea . no, it sends the wrong idea. no, it sends the wrong message. absolutely. it sends a message. absolutely. it sends a message. and it will be it will be marketed this way by the people that actually the uk. once you get there, you claim asylum you have to fill out a form. the truth is irrelevant the people smugglers can now market this as something to attract business people to their business. but the other thing is that , you know, whilst it's that, you know, whilst it's firstly it's going to be it's ineffective, it's, it's a weakness in our national security. we don't know who these people are and the forms doubt are going to be filled out by charity. working with the asylum seekers , so on. so the asylum seekers, so on. so the fact that it's to be filled out in english, surely that's check. well, that it's makes it easier for the home office and the immigration service read the
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forms. they don't have to translate them. so there's, you know shortcutting this and are just because it is effectively a rubber stamping process and what worries me here is that it's not even going to make a big impact . the backlog at the moment . . the backlog at the moment. backlog all told, not just over the last 12 months is 160,000. so what we need, this doesn't fix the problem we need a new system . we need new structures system. we need new structures to . do it. and system. we need new structures to. do it. and this, system. we need new structures to . do it. and this, you know, to. do it. and this, you know, suella braverman i've got a great deal of respect for her. i like her. i like her approach. but she still doesn't know precisely how to solve. she's leading a that's not providing her with the imaginative that she needs and doesn't have the drive that she needs for them to engage properly on a what's neededis engage properly on a what's needed is a fully and properly integrated national strategy that because we talk immigration but of the cocaine and heroin in this country is imported. there are other things coming across our borders that we need to stop and we need proper strategy to
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deal with it. the office is not capable of producing it. suella braverman is a politician. she doesn't know how to do it, but it has to be done because all of this is paper is papering over the cracks, is isn't it? right. thank you, henry. henry. you're welcome. and obe, they're not giving us. his opinion as political editor at sunday mirror and sunday people. nigel nelson. hi, nigel. morning nelson. hi, nigel. good morning . i mean, suella braverman was talking a good game, wasn't she ? i will not shy away from telling the truth. she says she's trying be reassuring to give impression that she has give the impression that she has the situation under do the situation under control. do you think she has ? well, quite you think she has? well, quite clearly not. i mean, it was a brilliant, brilliant interview, liam, last night. brilliant, brilliant interview, liam, last night . but she has liam, last night. but she has said that she's quite clearly at odds with the prime minister and i think that rishi sunak position on the european convention on human rights is , convention on human rights is, it would be the last straw if he had to actually leave it . i had to actually leave it. i think suella braverman is right . it's not ruled out. she would be keen, in fact, to get out the
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european convention and also the un refugee convention. trouble is , makes britain a bit of an an is, makes britain a bit of an an international pariah. if you do that because any country that wants to trade with us and has an ethical foreign policy might be discouraged from doing so. so it really is a last resort not the first response. what do you think about the plan that's been announced today then? are you in agreement with henry that it's effectively rubber stamping? we've this huge backlog. the we've got this huge backlog. the solutions to this is to kind of clear desk an amnesty. 12000 clear the desk an amnesty. 12000 to 12000 claimants who basically 95% of them will just be told you can stay. now, that solves the problem. it takes them out of the hotels. it can potentially put them into work. they can start earning own money. henry said, that money. but as henry said, that it just give the message, well, come along. have to sit in come along. might have to sit in a in a hotel somewhere for a little and deprived little while and deprived seaside and then eventually seaside town and then eventually you fill in a you just somebody will fill in a form and you get leave to
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form you and you get leave to stay well . there is no there is stay well. there is no there is no perfect solution to this. so if we're going to control immigration , the first thing immigration, the first thing you've got to do is and clear that asylum battle . as henry that asylum battle. as henry just said, that is absolutely huge at the moment. and so how do you go about doing it? you've got to train staff if you are going to do face to face interviews. that's going to take time. what you're talking about here is migrants who probably get leave to remain in the uk. i'm trying to fast track that to lower the backlog . now that lower the backlog. now that seems to me it doesn't it doesn't solve . the problem what doesn't solve. the problem what it does do, though is go some way to actually easing it . and way to actually easing it. and again, what you've got to do is make sure you do the right security checks, make that these people aren't a danger. that all will be done . but it's not will be done. but it's not perfect . but i don't think it perfect. but i don't think it actually encourage just people
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to try and cross the channel just because you've got system in place. the draw for crossing the channel is the fact you claim asylum unless in this country . and that's what the country. and that's what the people smugglers trail. and that's why come across . what do that's why come across. what do you expect keir starmer to about this today, nigel he's about to make a huge speech probably , the make a huge speech probably, the most important speech so far in the run up to the next next year's general election . and to year's general election. and to expect to take his on this expect him to take his on this a strong one. what what can he say . well, i mean i'm certainly i'm pretty he's going to mention that. but i mean the speech is not not intended be about that. this is essentially the next stage towards the general election which we're now pretty much expecting towards the end of next year . and what his of next year. and what his speech is doing is , wrapping up speech is doing is, wrapping up kind of labour's econo mic policy about how to make things better than are at the moment.
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and certainly to address the problem, i think with the with labouris problem, i think with the with labour is they haven't really got a great immigration policy of their own . they talk about of their own. they talk about cracking down on people smugglers. good. let's do that. but what they haven't come up with is where this long term solution be. and the only long term solution you can have is if asylum seekers would be able to make their claims abroad rather than this country. and that way you would stop them crossing the channel absolutely. nigel, thank you so much. nigel nelson there a familiar face of gb news and editor of the people. now, in the past few moments, the secretary of state for northern ireland, chris heaton—harris, has spoken about the shooting of the duty officer in omagh. the off duty officer in omagh. asked police officers in northern ireland were danger northern ireland were in danger . is he had to say. . this is what he had to say. well i'm concerned about well i'm always concerned about safety of officers, but safety of psni officers, but they completely . and in all they are completely. and in all my experience with them, they know exactly they're doing know exactly what they're doing
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and actually are policing communities ireland communities of northern ireland really and very, very well . but really and very, very well. but this is a really significant event. this is a really significant event . it's a very serious event event. it's a very serious event and the it's difficult to underline how cowardly people are. isn't it? if you're just joining us, that was the story. a police officer who was shot in front of a group of children last night and potentially, we think his son. now, that was secretary of state northern secretary of state for northern ireland, chris. so still to come, you've heard me saying come, as you've heard me saying so far, up to 12,000 asylum seekers five specific seekers from five specific countries will be granted refugee an refugee status without an interview. and the government plans to the backlog cases plans to clear the backlog cases within does that you. gb within months. does that you. gb news dot uk. see you in 2 minutes .
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the tuc says that on average women work for free for nearly two months of the year compared to average man. it doesn't surprise me, but it doesn't seem terribly fair, does it, to you? we're talk about that we're going to talk about that in just a while. first, my guests are here this morning. i'm be joined by i'm delighted to be joined by political webb former political emma webb and, former mayor ken morning. mayor of london. ken morning. both right. emma, let's start with this story. you've heard us so talking about it. you saw the clip of liam halligan talking to suella braverman. and it's this story, the front page, the papers today . this asylum plan papers today. this asylum plan to admit without interview checks. to admit without interview checks . what do you make of it? checks. what do you make of it? i think this is completely. i mean, it's the idea is that they prioritised the countries that normally have people have successful applications from. so afghanistan eritrea, syria and yemen . they're planning to do yemen. they're planning to do this to cut this backlog . asylum this to cut this backlog. asylum applications by basically skipping the interview part so that they'll be able to submit their paperwork and then on the
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bafis their paperwork and then on the basis of that, rather than having a kind of oral in—person interview . but the reason why interview. but the reason why this i think is so idiotic is because all this is going to do is tell the people traffickers to say the migrants, get rid of your ids claim that you're from one of these priority countries, then you won't have to have an interview. so they won't be able to tell whether you have you know, can tell from know, you can tell from someone's language on. if someone's language and so on. if you have experts the room, you have experts in the room, which they have which obviously they don't have involved in the process, that they be able to tell they would be able to tell whether the people actually whether the people are actually wet they are claiming wet from where they are claiming to from. so this is just to be from. so this is just going lead to of going to lead to loads of claiming to from afghanistan claiming to be from afghanistan eritrea, syria or yemen in order to try and skip the queue and then we won't know who's coming into the country. it's a stupid idea. i ithink into the country. it's a stupid idea. i i think this whole thing is ridiculous . have hundreds of is ridiculous. have hundreds of thousands , of british people thousands, of british people have of work for some have been out of work for some of them virtually the last decade. should training them, decade. we should training them, giving them skills getting them into jobs. we don't need to
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importing people. need to be importing people. we need to be giving a better chance of our own british citizens. i've never known a level of unemployment like this in my lifetime. it sending under labour and truly governments . and all my life governments. and all my life they made sure people left school, enough training, got school, got enough training, got job. now i find it unbelievable. so do you think we should be training more people to conduct these sort of interviews, get people to be interviewing people in to be interviewing this silom well it not this silom seekers? well it not just doing it as a rubber stamp a digital exercise centres it'll be it'll be you know they'll we've seen online it will go through to the system one person can do that. we should be interviewing asylum seekers who are here because face are coming here because face violence and potential death in their own country. i mean it's nonsense to think people now just coming in because they want a job. i mean, when we've got so many hundreds thousands of many hundreds, thousands of unemployed , we should be unemployed people, we should be training people to fill training our own people to fill these . what do you these vacancies. what do you think, emma ? i mean, i, i what think, emma? i mean, i, i what what suella braverman was saying
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that about the chair and liam's pushing her on that . would you pushing her on that. would you leave the european convention on human rights in order to be able to enact the kind of immigration policy would like to do? policy that we would like to do? and said and liam said to and she said and liam said to her does does rishi sunak have the stomach for this? do you have to that question? have an answer to that question? i government's i think, i think government's response question response to that question extremely wasn't extremely diplomatic. wasn't i think she has the stomach for i think she has the stomach for i think has the political will. i do think necessarily that he does. course, he's talked does. of course, he's talked tough a lot of stuff . i tough on a lot of this stuff. i absolutely with suella absolutely agree with suella him. i think we should leave the i think we should leave the european court of rights. i think it's the only that we think it's the only way that we will able to really take will be able to really take control of our and our immigration system . until we do immigration system. until we do that, we're not going to be able to the full control that to achieve the full control that we need . i think outmatched from we need. i think outmatched from migration watch absolutely nailed it when he said that this idea for cutting the queue cutting the waiting down is a dangerous folly because this is not a solution to the problem. this is just cutting corners and
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letting people in without the appropriate checks. all it's going to do is encourage situation that's already terrible . i think that if terrible. i think that if braverman could braverman has political will if she could really achieve what she wants achieve, i think we would be in achieve, i think we would be in a much better position. but the problem is that you need the political leadership to come from the. you need. you need rishi to be willing to rishi sunak to be willing to take the political hit to say we have to leave the european of human rights is the only way to go.thank human rights is the only way to go. thank you both. we've we've been cut short. we're going to cross manchester city cross live now manchester city centre sir keir starmer centre where sir keir starmer is setting plans for the setting out his plans for the labour party. here he is . thank labour party. here he is. thank you. i'm to. we'll get to that . you. i'm to. we'll get to that. thank you, everyone. this is fantastic to be here. as i in i didn't realise we're going to have all people up all the other floors. it's fantastic to see
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you all of people behind me as well. this is really, really great. i think this is the second biggest audience we've had here since the queen. the late queen opened building. so it is really fantastic to be here . it's great for me to be in here. it's great for me to be in manchester stuff. it's . the manchester stuff. it's. the i have to confess, it's the first time i've been here since a particular football game last . particular football game last. so i'm going to pass the usual arsenal jokes today . let's just arsenal jokes today. let's just say lucy , the fight goes on and say lucy, the fight goes on and actually we could learn something from arsenal and from man city . bear with me because man city. bear with me because all the way to the end of the season objective for, both teams is the same . win the league is the same. win the league a goal can be achieved only by teamwork. excellence a blend of skills different pulling
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together on and off the contributions big and small tactics may change. lucy but the pursuit is single minded and the focus the ambition, the mission that never changes . but don't that never changes. but don't worry, i'm not going to turn up to parliament in a tracksuit but i do to believe britain need to a sense of purpose and that the way we run our country can be more like a sports team pursuing victory. the government can be dnven victory. the government can be driven forward by clear focussed, objective lives. this approach , vital for britain to approach, vital for britain to get its its hope and its future back. and that's what i'm here to set out how a new mission driven labour government will sticking
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plaster politics and in doing so get britain back on its feet . i get britain back on its feet. i will never accept that this country is destined decline, that our best days to the past success is all around us. it just needs direction . people just needs direction. people have huge ambitions for their community. they just need a government that matches their ambition . and i, i think there ambition. and i, i think there is a yearning to come together to be part of something bigger that it's always been there in all our big moments in our history, the creation of , the history, the creation of, the nhs during , the pandemic in nhs during, the pandemic in spades the passing of the late queen last year , a pride on queen last year, a pride on a purple , though we have to unlock purple, though we have to unlock to drive our country forward towards a better .
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towards a better. all around the world country is geanng all around the world country is gearing up for an almighty race for the opportunities of tomorrow . britain must be for the opportunities of tomorrow. britain must be on the start line, not back in the changing room time laces some nafion changing room time laces some nation is going to lead the world in offshore wind. why not some nation create the first generation of quantum computers 7 generation of quantum computers ? why not britain ? some nation ? why not britain? some nation will design personalised to match unique dna. why britain . match unique dna. why britain. why not? because sticking plaster politics holds us back . plaster politics holds us back. and if the current problems energy, security, productivity we compare all day . but it we compare all day. but it wouldn't matter the pattern is always the same . distracted by
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always the same. distracted by the short term obsessions that fixate westminster held back by a synthesis which uses low trusted as an excuse to narrow our ambitions to the potential of an active government setting . the direction we lurch from crisis to crisis , always crisis to crisis, always reacting, always behind the curve, a sticking plaster, never a kweer . just look at the a kweer. just look at the nhs for years we've had winter cnses for years we've had winter crises every year the same panic, the same despair is life and death . and yet the and death. and yet the government has never found long term solution . sticking plaster term solution. sticking plaster politics. the fundamentals never fixed. not one crisis, but a cluster of crises that compound each combined to send a nation
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in a downward spiral . the in a downward spiral. the evidence this has happened to britain is all around us. the only country in the g7 still poorer than it was before the pandemic the worst decade for growth in two centuries. 7 million are waiting lists and rising . you don't see this rising. you don't see this everywhere i'd look . it's easy everywhere i'd look. it's easy to blame it all on the tories. but some of these problems go back decades. others are clearly aggravated by events and. i won't criticise this government unfairly for the consequences of the in ukraine, but over 13 years by the actions and crucially the inactions the tories have made britain's problems deeper , longer, lasting problems deeper, longer, lasting and more painful than any of our
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competitors . seriously ask competitors. seriously ask yourself. this do i better off today than i did 30 years ago . today than i did 30 years ago. what's the list of achievements they can rattle off the legacy of our country that they can be proud and the idea that the people who created the mess around us are the ones to clean it up. forget debt. it's . it up. forget debt. it's. that devoid of ideas that clapped out that to wait to challenge the vested interest in their party which hold britain back to close in on themselves to think big for our country britain leadership with ambition belief in the possibility of the future, hunger to take on the big challenges . this is the case
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big challenges. this is the case for change. a new government and a new way of governing britain needs both with labour. britain will both . will both. and that's what today is about a person that gets its future . and person that gets its future. and i'll tell you how, we're going to transform the way britain does its business from top to bottom will modernise central government so it becomes dynamic agile, strong and above focussed , more open to expertise , to , more open to expertise, to partnership with business, unions, communities and civil society , mission driven society, mission driven government . a relentless focus
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government. a relentless focus on a clear set of priorities . an on a clear set of priorities. an answer to the widespread call to fix the fundamentals. a long term plan to unlock our pride and our purpose . a profound and our purpose. a profound statement of intent. mission dnven statement of intent. mission driven government . in some ways, driven government. in some ways, it's a simple idea. every business around the world, every has a strategy . a nation needs has a strategy. a nation needs one to a plan a framework, a compass to act as a guide . compass to act as a guide. everything we do , making clear everything we do, making clear what is mission critical for my government and what isn't a clarity that will ruffle feathers across . whitehall and feathers across. whitehall and beyond , but one that is beyond, but one that is necessary . necessary build necessary. necessary build britain's long term strength necessary to develop action for
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change across the country necessary because what it can give to businesses , families, give to businesses, families, and to working people certainty and to working people certainty and change stability and success and change stability and success a plan for today and more secure future . and from this something future. and from this something even more precious , a britain even more precious, a britain once again on the front foot , a once again on the front foot, a sense of hope, of possibility of ambition . a britain that gets ambition. a britain that gets its back . its back. five national missions each, one laser targeted on the complex problems that drive our crises. the root causes that demand new thinking, new solutions spawned in all parts of the country , new in all parts of the country, new ways of harnessing the ingenuity that's all around us. each
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mission will come with clear, measurable outcomes, ambitions that won't be overtaken by the future . to raise our sights . and future. to raise our sights. and at first glance seem too bold , at first glance seem too bold, inviting a sharp of breath , a inviting a sharp of breath, a question can this really be done ? and then when the doubts begin to subside , a new emotion and to subside, a new emotion and a new determination why not? britain . let britain. let let me give you an example. zero carbon purchase electricity 2030 a huge goal will allow us to accelerate to net zero. make no mistake this goal would turn britain into a clean energy superpower . it will clean energy superpower. it will put us ahead of any major
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economy in the world. that's just helping take a breath, by the way and look i've already talking to ceos investors entrepreneurs unions energy workers about how we get this done the conversation always starts with a shake of the head . this is a bit much care. clean energy by 2030 that's going to be going some. but what i them here's the ambition here's the plan and here's the opportunity for you there is a powerful urgency to make it happen , but urgency to make it happen, but it will only happen with right building blocks cheaper , bills, building blocks cheaper, bills, real energy security independence from tyrants like putin and an industrial strategy that can win the race . jobs in that can win the race. jobs in the green industries of the future . each of our five future. each of our five missions will contain this formula a measurable goal the building of a clear strategy and
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the first steps of a credible term plan . the first steps like term plan. the first steps like the insulation of 90 million homes, like training for people to be heat pump fitters, builders, engineers , builders, engineers, electricians like energy. a new british company that will supercharge our drive , cleaner supercharge our drive, cleaner energy and taken together , lay a energy and taken together, lay a new foundation for a prosperous in every community free . community not today . i community not today. i want to community not today . i want to focus community not today. i want to focus on labour's mission for the british economy , because no mission is economy, because no mission is more important to the future of country in the last year alone, rachael reeves and i have met thousands of business leaders, ceos all over the country leaders in retail, in
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hospitality, life sciences , hospitality, life sciences, digital, clean tech , the digital, clean tech, the creative industries . we've met creative industries. we've met workers on the shop floor and those suffering profound from the cost of living crisis right across the eu. listening keir starmer talking in manchester this morning, setting out what he's called bold ambition and his bold vision. emma webb it didn't seem terribly bold to i wasn't sure whether he'd written it with gpt because it was basically lot of sentences which said the same thing in multiple ways. fix the fundamentals proud statement of intent long term plan mission driven government mission driven government. did you anything out of that? you take anything out of that? well i mean, that was so much hot air. i don't know where to begin so much that you can begin this so much that you can say about it. but i think the fact that i think many people will take heart from the fact that he's putting this that he's putting forward this ambitious i think to ambitious plan and, i think to keir is credit he has keir starmer is credit he has actually the labour party together quite significantly since the corbyn and but what he's saying there is so it's so
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ambitious that actually i think it's quite worrying . i think we it's quite worrying. i think we should be concerned with that kind of vision for government. but he's he's been there about modernising governance, about government, about partnering with experts fix the fundamentals. it sounds as he wants to try and create a very type of government you know very well. bev there are certain who have ambitions towards types of government that are frankly in many ways undemocratic. and i think , you know, we don't have think, you know, we don't have the details that about what these missions because as i say, this is so much hot air and he is you know it's very difficult to disagree with what he's saying we all do agree that that the conservative party have become closed in that they become quite closed in that they haven't come up with the ideas and the leadership that need. and yes, of course, britain does need ambition to need leadership and ambition to and take britain's future back. as saying, it's very as he was saying, it's very difficult to disagree with, but at same time, he's providing at the same time, he's providing none details. and think none of the details. and i think it's detail would be it's the detail that would be really quite worrying. yeah.
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ken, what do you think this this this new this sort of trend now with politicians , everything has with politicians, everything has to in fives . rishi sunak to be done in fives. rishi sunak came with five point came out with his five point plan. if you remember his to plan. if you remember his was to halve inflation, grow the economy, reduce debt cut waiting less and stop boats. let's just compare that with keir starmer's today. secure the highest sustained growth in the g7. make a clean energy superpower , build a clean energy superpower, build an nhs fit for the future, whatever that means. make britain's streets safe, great and break down the barriers to opportunity . at every stage opportunity. at every stage there are points of difference, but they are brush strokes. yes, but they are brush strokes. yes, but i agree with everything. he's just i but i agree with everything. he'sjust i mean the nhs is in he's just i mean the nhs is in the worst crisis of my we have a 200 of thousands of job vacancies people are waiting until way a year for my knee surgery . you know this is surgery. you know this is ridiculous. i'm nothing that in the past we have had the worst government in this last 13 years of my lifetime. and what keir starmer recognised is if you
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want our economy to grow , we've want our economy to grow, we've got to increase investment in public, private, we've got to create new good jobs. we have fallen behind with the only one of the major economies that is smaller . it of the major economies that is smaller. it was a of the major economies that is smaller . it was a decade ago . we smaller. it was a decade ago. we are the worst government of my lifetime and the worst amongst the western democracies. we need . keir starmer is clearly focussed . i mean he didn't come focussed. i mean he didn't come into to be a celebrity like bofis into to be a celebrity like boris johnson , he came in to run boris johnson, he came in to run things . he's boris johnson, he came in to run things. he's spent his career prosecuting murderers and rapists. he knows how to run a department and i think he will be our best prime minister since clement attlee as post—war labour government. he will create a better for my kids and tackle the most important factor climate change if we don't tackle climate change, we could face extinction by the middle of this century. i hope. are we going to face extinction by the middle of the century? and should that be a key? is it a vote winner? that's killer. i didn't to make britain a clean
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energy superpower. that is one of keir starmer's five points of all of the things that keir starmer to think prioritise i think up the wall that's think up in the red wall that's going be the least of going to be the least of concerns not least because all of this striving after net zero. and the green levies are and all the green levies are actually responsible actually partially responsible for , which for the cost of energy, which is adding cost and fuelling, adding to the cost and fuelling, pardon the pun , the cost of pardon the pun, the cost of living crisis. i do that the conservative party should worried about . the direction of worried about. the direction of travel the labour party obviously the 20 points ahead in the polls. keir starmer is actually making a very good show of it. if you just think pmqs over the last couple of weeks, i think the conservative party should be really worried about it, there are it, but partly because there are some really concerning things buned some really concerning things buried in amongst all of these platitudes, the keir starmer has been has been spouting, including here in this in this story from from what he's been saying about these five national missions . saying about these five national missions. it's a quote from him saying that the that he hopes
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that they can shape markets rather than serving them so . rather than serving them so. this is what he's proposing here i think is a much more interventionist control ruling form of government when he talks about fixing the fundamentals he's talking about giving the government more control what we need actually is limited government control over people's lives . we need government to do lives. we need government to do the job of government rather than doing all of these other things that are not the job of government. i think that what we would find is that, yes, the conservative party are bad if you vote for the labour party, what you're going to get think is probably something that you wouldn't bargaining wouldn't really be bargaining for. ken livingstone, what do you make of that? we a smaller government, we need a smaller state it just seems to be getting bigger bigger and getting bigger and bigger and bigger. blair bigger. and tony blair absolutely civil absolutely packed. the civil service he service with the people he wanted there. and if wanted in there. and that's if you want world that's going to you want a world that's going to get and give our kids the get better and give our kids the chance a decent you need a chance of a decent you need a bigger we've had bigger government we've had i mean cuts in this last 13
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mean more cuts in this last 13 years and at any point my lifetime that hasn't created a good strong economy we've supped good strong economy we've slipped behind all our major competitors. that's while the government bigger, while government has got bigger, while the state bigger. i want a the state got bigger. i want a smaller yeah, smaller government. yeah, i don't to know don't want to know the government there most of government even there most of the time want my services to run effectively. i want them take effectively. i want them to take little you'll run little tax and you'll run because mean, i was born in because i mean, i was born in 1945 that post—war labour 1945 when that post—war labour government massively increased the size of government created a welfare state. yeah, health care got everyone a job. you need a that intervenes if you're seeing government that shrinks the economy's going to shrink more people be permanent work this is this last 13 years has been the most income government in my lifetime. we need to get back to well keir starmer saying because understands the truth he's not he didn't come into politics a celebrity like boris johnson he wants to be on top of the issues and make sure he creates a better for all of us. better world for all of us. okay. all right. well we got a lot of time to debate that. well, how when's the next
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election? the next year? election? and the next year? okay now, on. a woman okay now, moving on. a woman worker has to work nearly two months extra before she earns the same annual salary as the average man union. the tuc says that the gender pay gap for all employees is 14.9. so feminist activist and writer jean hatchett , me now . good morning, hatchett, me now. good morning, jean. good see you. the figures in this off are quite depressing. we haven't really come a long way, have we? why is that. come a long way, have we? why is that . good come a long way, have we? why is that. good morning. well is the thing is it's the same year on yean thing is it's the same year on year, it's the same discussion we have and the same the same things have said about what the figures are. but we really have to look at the reasons behind those statistics . and, you know, those statistics. and, you know, let me face a huge number of different disadvantages to the ones men face throughout their lifetime. so you know, you've got thing is more financially detrimental to a woman than childbirth and that's assuming that she has supporting her once she's had a child. but you know
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there is a gap to be taken from there is a gap to be taken from the workforce. there are different penalties that are sort of sort of self—imposed a way because you will want to spend the time with with your family and with your child and that that doesn't happen in the same way for my mum i'm also really important things like menopause are hugely impactful for women who are in the workforce and may not only impact way that they work effectively without support because that frequently is little support, but we're talking about women who don't seek or who don't see different types advancement that would enhance their pay and those things don't change year on yeah things don't change year on year. oh, they change very little menopause in particular really low down the agenda . a really low down the agenda. a lot of employers i've got all the things i would mention the jane let me let's just have a look at some of the numbers that the bit that really surprised me is that the women aged between
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and 59 have the higher pay gap of 21% and it's 18% for those who are 60 and older. now, i have a theory about why that is, and i think that's probably because women often just take time out of work to raise the family , and then they go family, and then often they go they go back the they might go back the workplace, they've missed workplace, but they've missed those steps that male those steps that their male counterparts experienced and were climb. so when they go were able climb. so when they go back in their 50 is often it's going back to work in their fifties for the first time. maybe they're quite happy to take less pay because devoted those raising the those years to raising the children and they accept that as a compromise. my being naive , i a compromise. my being naive, i think that could be one of the reasons for some women . i mean, reasons for some women. i mean, when all of these factors are put together, if you think of a people will criticise me for this. so that's a huge impact that does a huge impact for. this. so that's a huge impact that does a huge impact for . a that does a huge impact for. a lot of women in the workforce from male violence against women and lots of women are carrying
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the impacts of that with them. when go to work. and it's an absolute phenomenal achievement for women to actually get into the workplace on a daily basis. you've got one in four women who will suffer domestic violence between the ages 60, 64 and one in five will suffer some form of sexual violence. that's a lot for women deal with and then seek promotion . so you know seek promotion. so you know saying that those women are ineffective but , they have to ineffective but, they have to work so much harder within the workforce to overcome things. so you know, and then you've got things like . this is really things like. this is really important. emma pattison was murdered by her husband and the headunes murdered by her husband and the headlines went for the fact that she was a high profile woman in, a high, high profile job. now he might. this is the woman who was the head of epsom college who gunned down by her. and he also killed their daughter. yeah so when you've got a headline saying women if you are a high
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achiever your husband might be jealous he might kill you, he might not. but men will be jealous of you if you achieve too highly . jealous of you if you achieve too highly. is jealous of you if you achieve too highly . is that jealous of you if you achieve too highly. is that a jealous of you if you achieve too highly . is that a message too highly. is that a message that we are giving women via these high profile murder cases ? women achieving is somehow wrong, that we're challenging men in the wrong ways . all of men in the wrong ways. all of these things feed into women not achieving. and we can't say that they don't. i mean, the till you say it basically said that the gender pay gap grows. they've used the word dramatically once you have children and i don't know about you . i've been saying know about you. i've been saying for years i was at university, i was writing about stuff, which is that the feminist movement did a really good job of getting women into the workplace and was talking about the fact that men might actually want to take a little share little bit more share of domestic responsibilities, whatever that whatever involves be that raising children or running a household. do you optimism that since the with the flexible working there was a survey this week saying that the four day
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working week is likely to become the norm for most after businesses are responding, saying incredibly saying it's an incredibly positive . do you have positive movement. do you have faith we start to blend faith that as we start to blend our life and our work our family life and our work life, because often the men will also fathers report also fathers will often report they like i know, stop the press , they quite like hanging out with the babies. they quite like doing the school run from time to time and getting a of to time and getting a bit of balance in life as well. balance in their life as well. i'm optimistic that might see i'm optimistic that we might see this little bit more this become a little bit more equitable that's sort of been on the agenda for a long time but it's just not happening. so why isn't it happening? i think that isn't it happening? i think that is . isn't the isn't it happening? i think that is. isn't the employee hiatus but then really, you know, someone you at your desk at 6:00 at night doing that last bit of work. and if you're not that stuck , then do it because stuck, then do it because overwhelmingly that is what's happening . and women do feel happening. and women do feel that they just can't . that kind that they just can't. that kind of pressure, whether it's a or whether it's, you know, things that are just slightly slipped in there in the odd comment, you
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know, somewhere the office, there's obviously there is a quick fix to this , of course, quick fix to this, of course, because . well, no i mean, because. well, no i mean, there's a quick fix for employers currently, which is something that really worries women. is that when you're talking about high achieving women in the workplace, you can just fill it with men who say they are women. and, you know, that's another that's a no. that's another that's a no no. all right thank you, jane. jane there. let me know what you think. gbviews@gbnews.uk write that at the end of our first houn that at the end of our first hour. up next, we're going to be joined by the man who carried out first interview with suella braverman, our very own liam halligan .
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secretary. he's going to be here in just a moment to reflect on what she said . also, england's what she said. also, england's chief medical has attacked the appalling marketing of vapes to children, saying it's clear that some products are intended appeal to under aged kids. i'm going to be looking at that and a story i do not understand at all. something to do with an independent football regulator who's going to be looking the responsibilities of a clubs, the way that money is passed through and how it affects growth routes. level football. apparent it's a very good idea for the beautiful game. find out why. and in the last few moments, the home office have its quarterly statistics on irregular migration to the uk, providing an overview of irregular migrants come to here, including those arriving on small boats across the english channel and coming down in dover later on to bnng coming down in dover later on to bring you the latest . and very
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bring you the latest. and very good morning we've got lots to get through this morning, including news that the legendary football commentator john motson has died at the age of 77. i had the good fortune to meet him on a few occasions, actually. i'm going to be looking back on his remarkable career. that and more. let me know what think on that and know what you think on that and all other stories this all the other stories this morning. it might be gb views at gb news. don't uk. but first of all get you up date all let's get you up to date what's happening and around what's happening here and around the with rihanna . good the world with rihanna. good morning . 11:02. your top from morning. 11:02. your top from the gb newsroom. the number of asylum seekers for an initial decision on claim has hit its highest since records began . highest since records began. more than 160,000 people were waiting by the end of december, up 60% on the previous year. the figures come as the home secretary tells gb news and exclu sive interview that nothing's ruled out when it
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comes to tackling illegal immigration. more than 45,000 people crossed the channel in small boats last year, which is a lot of and describes as unacceptable . speaking to liam unacceptable. speaking to liam halligan, she said she understands why people are frustrated with hotels . asylum frustrated with hotels. asylum seekers . it's clear that we have seekers. it's clear that we have an answer sustainable situation in towns and cities around our country whereby because of the overwhelming numbers , people overwhelming numbers, people arriving here illegally and our dufies arriving here illegally and our duties to accommodate them, we are now having to house them in hotels and that is causing under standard tensions within communities pressures on, local resources . and you can watch the resources. and you can watch the full two minute interview with . full two minute interview with. the home secretary on the gb news channel, an attempted investigation has been launched after . a senior police officer after. a senior police officer was shot in front of children in county tyrone . named as county tyrone. named as detective chief inspector john
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caldwell. he was hit multiple times when . two masked men times when. two masked men opened at a sports centre in omagh. he's in a critical, stable condition in hospital . stable condition in hospital. police investigating the attack say they're focusing on dissident republican group the new ira former mp for seminar south tyrone tom elliott says the community is understandably shocked. we felt we were living in a very peaceful time. we thought that we would pass this and i remember, you know, talking about this several times whenever the troubles were here . we didn't think at this stage that we would be back to a society this where people came and shot someone in front of young kids and an attempted murder and, you know, it's so brutal. it was planned targeted premeditate it . secretary of premeditate it. secretary of state for northern chris heaton—harris has condemned the attack. it was a cowardly and callous attack that happened
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night over a very senior , well night over a very senior, well known local police officer is now in a critical condition in hospital. and our thoughts are with his with him and his family family and everybody in the policing . and actually the policing. and actually the community of omagh is completely shocked by this because society has moved on in northern wrong. there is no place for violence. this sir keir starmer has outlined his vision for the country. if were to win the next general election and launching his party's five national missions . his party's five national missions. the labour leader his party's five national missions . the labour leader says missions. the labour leader says the uk needs to be more competitive. the economy was highlighted as a top priority and he promised to be tough on crime. sir keir says, sticking plaster politics is holding everyone back? the pattern is always the same. distracted by the short term obsessions that fixate westminster held back by a cynicism which uses low trusted politics as an excuse to narrow our ambitions , blinkered
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narrow our ambitions, blinkered to the pretend channel of an active government , setting the active government, setting the direction we lurch from crisis to crisis, always reacting , to crisis, always reacting, always behind the curve , a always behind the curve, a sticking plaster , never a cure . sticking plaster, never a cure. and independent regulator for engush and independent regulator for english will be introduced to ensure clubs run sustainable after fan led government review. the new regulator implement a licencing system for all clubs from the premier league down to the national league . it'll have the national league. it'll have the national league. it'll have the power to block clubs joining a breakaway european super league. it also aims to prevent historic clubs from going of business as well as giving fans. greater input. sports minister stuart andrew described it as a new era for english football. we will bring in an regulator that seek to ensure that are more sustainable and that will hopefully then bring forward more stability within the
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football pyramid because at the end of the day , we're concerned end of the day, we're concerned about the fans , the ones that about the fans, the ones that invest much in their clubs. they're important to their local communities . we want to make communities. we want to make sure that that success is built on, but it's there for years to . and staying with football football commentator john motson has died aged 77. known by millions of football fans as morty. he covered ten world cups, ten european championships and 29 fa cup finals for bbc sport before retiring from the organise in 2018. during his illustrious career spanning half a century, he became one of football's most instantly recognisable commentators . and recognisable commentators. and he'll be greatly missed . this is he'll be greatly missed. this is gb news will bring you more as it happens now though it's back to .
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to. good morning . welcome back to good morning. welcome back to bev turner today so the home secretary has told gb news that nothing is ruled out when it comes to fixing the channel migrant. in an interview with gb news liam halligan, she also issued veiled threat to number 10 over the northern ireland protocol. have a listen. so we have the law. home secretary, over 45,000 people across the channel. small boats last year. the number year is expected to be a lot higher. rishi sunak in his own words. is committed to passing new laws to stop the small boats . laws have now been small boats. laws have now been laid before parliament. does that that the government's ruled out leaving the european convention human rights in order to try and tackle this vexed . to try and tackle this vexed. well i think that there legitimate questions that need to start asking relating to our membership of the european convention of human and its operation in the united kingdom.
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we've seen there's a politicised and expanded chauvinist court in strasbourg that regulates the convention sometimes at odds with british values, whether it's our ability to remove people to wonders. we saw last its operation combined with the east charter and. the court have operated to policymaking. you make you make a strong legal case with respect home secretary. but the optics of leaving the ecj are are difficult. you've the stomach to leave it clearly . has the prime leave it clearly. has the prime minister at this stage nothing's ruled out. we need to ensure that we fix this problem of illegal . that's my priority . and illegal. that's my priority. and as the prime minister himself has said, do whatever it takes to achieve that goal. in light of those small boat incidents, we've seen protests. now around the country increasingly in liverpool in rotherham protests planned in newquay. liverpool in rotherham protests planned in newquay . some have planned in newquay. some have said that those protesters are far right. is a fair
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characterisation of those protesters. well what i would firstly is that violence is never acceptable and intimidation, harassing and any forms abuse to anybody are totally should be condemned. and i condemn in the fullest possible terms and it's clear that we have an unsustainable situation in towns and cities around our country because of the overwhelming numbers of people arriving here illegally and our legal duties to accommodate them. we are now having to house them in hotels. we are all frustrated with the situation that we are currently finding in and it is it is clear and undeniable that are really , and undeniable that are really, really serious pressures on communities and saying so does not make you racist or bigoted. simon clarke, former cabinet, has said there will be a very real problem for the government
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if there is a northern ireland deal that doesn't carry the support dup. is he right support of the dup. is he right ? listen, the dup are an important voice in this debate and in this discussion they speak. can we have a deal that they don't agree to. we have always worked very closely with the dup. they are unionists. they speak for a significant portion of . the communities in portion of. the communities in northern and they need to be round the table ultimately. stormont will only function if the dup supports any proposal. you of course as a brexit minister in 2018 over theresa may's deal . would you resign may's deal. would you resign over. may's deal. would you resign over . listen i don't may's deal. would you resign over. listen i don't think we need to be talking about resignation. i've taken a very forthright position in the past because i've found the terms of previous agreements intolerable . i don't support selling out northern ireland and allowing the eu a foothold in the united
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kingdom. do you like home secretary? well, i see my role as telling the truth and then fixing the problem and sometimes the truth is uncomfortable for. some people and they might get upset by hearing the truth. i'm not going to shy away from telling the to the british people and for the british people. that's my role . home people. that's my role. home secretary . well, the king of the secretary. well, the king of the first sit down interview , i first sit down interview, i think he had quite a quarter on kemi badenoch and now suella braverman liam halligan people are in touch saying are getting in touch saying jonathan said, opinion, jonathan said, in my opinion, suella braverman lied liam suella braverman lied to liam halligan. intention of halligan. she's no intention of stopping the boats deporting illegal smoke illegal immigrants. all smoke and you see a spot, and mirrors. you see a spot, a lie when you see, can't you? i wouldn't use that word. i'd say it's a very, very contentious issue. and true that as my issue. and it's true that as my questioning showed and if are really interested, they can watch the full two minute sit down interview, no holds barred. we didn't questions there was no pre arrangement at all for her to give me this interview at
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this time when the prime is grappling with this northern ireland protocol issue grappling with small boats, is a pretty punchy act. but as she said in that interview , the home office that interview, the home office is about to lay before parliament legislation to tackle the small boats issue, which doesn't involve at this point, leaving the european convention of human rights, which was written by british lawyers , mps written by british lawyers, mps with the first country to ratify a 1951. it was a response to the catastrophe of the second world war, the political optics of leaving that are very, very difficult. she's got the stomach to leave it. if we need to, to overrule the strasbourg court. what obstructionist and what she obstructionist and politicised politicised has the prime minister got the stomach to leave if needs be this legislation suggests not but what she wants a lawyer. she wants the option of leaving the aca all still on the table because the lords push back. but erm include chamber of legal aid and remain will push back on
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this legislation . she wants the this legislation. she wants the opfion this legislation. she wants the option hanging over the lords. okay, then we'll leave the law and as a lawyer. that's what she's trying to engineer. yeah okay. thank you so much liam liam halligan. right now some very sad is just breaking this morning legendary football commentator john morning legendary football commentatorjohn motson has died at the age of 77. motson ten world cups, ten european championships 29 ea. world cups, ten european championships 29 fa cup finals for sport before retiring from the organisation in 2018, known by many as mutti, it worked on match the day since 1971 and commentated on almost and a half thousand televised games. his voice, of course , was voice, of course, was unmistakeable . i couldn't help unmistakeable. i couldn't help feeling excited every time i came to wembley the whole aura of the stadium seemed me to lend itself to drama and my word there was plenty of that so that sports broadcaster john watson there, who sadly has lost his
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life. let's join tv news regular sports . paul coates now good sports. paul coates now good morning, paul. great to see you . and even on the subs circum is an absolute icon icon of the world of sports broadcasting was mutti absolute icon and it's only a few days after we lost dicky davis towards the end of last week. and when it came to commentators not, he and i knew him really well was, just the best. and i think everybody has got memories of some of those great commentaries personally , great commentaries personally, if i great commentaries personally, ifi back great commentaries personally, if i back of spurs in 81, if i think back of spurs in 81, the famous ricky vila goal, there was the there was the wimbledon fa cup final when they beat liverpool, when he set the gang of beat in the culture club back in 88. but the great thing aboutis back in 88. but the great thing about is that he always said that he never planned anything you often get commentators these days you can hear it's scripted whereas matty always went with a card with every player a little fact about them . he handwrote fact about them. he handwrote these things and spent over them
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before every commentary . but before every commentary. but everything else always came off the tip of the tongue . he was an the tip of the tongue. he was an absolute master of his craft and i think we'll all miss him very well. i was lucky to meet him a couple of times. we were both actually working for itv sport at the time and i was a new and didn't know what i was doing. you might say not much has changed in 20 years, right? but he really, he was he was really, really he was really he was really really kind. he was really helpful. and he managed to be sort of mentoring without being patronising, which is not easy. do he was a really good bloke . do he was a really good bloke. he you what you hit the he was. and you what you hit the nail on the head because i've worked with him a lot over the last years. and the last last ten years. and the last time saw is that we had time i saw him is that we had a lunch. there was a corporate that we did in the city of london, and he was always nice and always very compliment about everything i ever did. and he was to work with me was always happy to work with me and to with. and very easy to work with. i mean, a little eccentric. don't get wrong, always get me wrong, he was always a little eccentric with john, but it always little off putting
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it was always little off putting because you can hear that obviously speaking obviously when you're speaking to this voice to him and you hear this voice coming straight at you and you're thinking it's kind of sounds john watson, but it sounds like john watson, but it is. coming from the man is. it's coming from the man that speaking to. and one that i was speaking to. and one of memories have, of the funniest memories i have, i we'd done the i think after we'd done the luncheon, it was for the world. and this was back in november. and this was back in november. and sat and always and sat down. and he always liked a have a scotch liked to have a have a scotch after shut down after which. and we shut down and, a drink and he said, and, had a drink and he said, you know, paul, this is this is i really like. and i said, well, what's that? and you what's that? and he said, you don't want to sit down having a drink, about football drink, talking about football with and that with friends and that was probably i saw probably the last time i saw him. saw briefly at spurs him. i saw briefly at spurs a couple of weeks ago. but the last real conversation we had, what to go. but what a what a way to go. but what a legend, best there was. legend, just the best there was. and always rivalry and it was always that rivalry as well with barry davis. and he'd always admit to that because barry davis course at the was friendly the bbc there was friendly rivalry that rivalry between them that went on up until they on right up until when they retired but me what it was retired but for me what it was the king, he was the best. yeah, absolutely . thank you paul. absolutely. thank you paul. paul absolutely. thank you paul. paul. and if paul. quite that. and if listening radio of course listening on the radio of course a the of dale moss
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a lot the footage of dale moss wearing distinctive famous sheepskin coat. right. was sticking football. the department for digital culture, media and sport has released a white paper on football governance. i'm not even going to pretend paul hawkins to read out what i'm talking about. i don't understand it at all. i'll be honest. when you start any sentence with whites paper, most people glaze over white paper won't stop. right? i'm not going to fake it. i can't fake it. paul to fake it. i can't fake it. paul, you . me, what's going on? paul, you. me, what's going on? and why is this good for football? so you know how the you that regulate the you have ofgem that regulate the energy you ofcom that energy you have ofcom that regulate industry we work in regulate the industry we work in you've lots regulators you've got lots of regulators the bodies will now for the first time in the world really britain is going to england going to be is going to get its first regulator for football either the call it offered or something. don't know what it's going to. yeah. essentially they're to step in and they're going to step in and regulate the games. at the moment it's unregulated at moment it's, it's unregulated at the moment. and really this goes back conservative manifesto back to a conservative manifesto commitment in 2019. this is
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going the fans involved. going to get the fans involved. we're going a finalised we're going to have a finalised review off back of review coming off the back of bury fc, one of the oldest football hometown. okay. which as you then yeah it was doesn't really exist any more. it went out of business because of financial administration problems. so they undertook final review. it started last april . come back, they're going april. come back, they're going to publish what they call a white it's political jargon. it essentially they're essentially means that they're going plan to put going to publish a plan to put in a football regulator like ofgem in the energy industry . ofgem in the energy industry. and it is going to oversee four things within the game. firstly, it's to stop the big clubs in the premier league like spurs and united to join big and united going to join big european super league. you might remember a of uproar remember, caused a lot of uproar when was mooted. yes, there when it was mooted. yes, there were fans outside stadiums going, no, we don't want to do big european safely. try and did any of the of them did go. any of the none of them did go. no happens various reasons no happens for various reasons so have the power so first they'll have the power to them doing that secondly to stop them doing that secondly financial health such as top clubs like macclesfield has in difficulties derby county . it's
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difficulties derby county. it's going to introduce stricter financial tests for the owners and the directors . all an new and the directors. all an new licencing system. so if you want to be a football club and you want to compete in the premier league, the english football league, which is league one, league, which is league one, league two in the championship or the national otherwise known as conference , then you'll as the conference, then you'll need to have a football, a proper licence, like a tv licence fishing licence. licence or fishing licence. think that. you think of it like that. so you don't need have a licence to don't need to have a licence to comply and the two comply. and the final two points, and these are the things make really popular is fans make it really popular is fans will get a say in the running the club so if you want to change the fan shirts , the change the fan shirts, the colours the crests if you want to relocate the club to another stadium, you've got to consult the fans first. so it's about giving fans more of a say in what happens with their clubs. and and for me as and then finally and for me as somebody who played power football saturday and sunday mornings london mornings all over essex, london , surrey, it's , it can force the
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, surrey, it's, it can force the premier league to give more of its money to grassroots and lower leagues clubs. right, which is huge. so i think so democracy to football or the other way to look at it is more regulation. well, i was going to say, i bet this is the kind of thing that fans might quite like. thing that fans might quite uke.the thing that fans might quite like. the bosses hate possibly. and do we know who's going to run we don't know. this is run it? we don't know. this is a football. there's a lot of kind of the devil will of overview. but the devil will be the details. let me just be in the details. let me just read to you something from west ham owner, sullivan. he ham owner, david sullivan. he says a football regulator says this, a football regulator is terrible idea. the is a terrible idea. the government ruining government terrible at ruining running . at running everything. look at the mess. we pay mess. the countries and we pay the highest ever for worst the highest ever for the worst service, government service, the worst government that my lifetime. that i've seen in my lifetime. so fair to say not so it's fair to say he's, not a fan of the what was that and from the owner of west ham, david sullivan . oh, that day the david sullivan. oh, that day the premier says premier league says a appreciates government's appreciates the government's commitment but is vital commitment but is a vital regulation does not damage the game or its ability to attract investment and is and you know the english football league which is below the premier
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league the grass the people at the bottom well up for this the bottom of well up for this because could because potentially could get more rubbish changing more money for rubbish changing rooms kind of thing . oh rooms that kind of thing. oh hokies you made that so much more than i thought more interesting than i thought it thank you it was going to be. thank you very and let know what very much. and let me know what you think at gb news uk. so still to this morning, still to come this morning, england's medical officer england's chief medical officer , sir chris whitty, has finally criticised what he calls the appalling of vapes to children. are you concerned about kids getting their hands on these devices? stick around for that discussion. i'll back in just 2 minutes. don't go anywhere .
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very good morning . it's 1125. very good morning. it's1125. this is bev turner stay on gb news. my guests are with me. i'm delighted to be joined this morning. political commentator emma webb and former mayor of london ken livingstone . so emma london ken livingstone. so emma shemima baker lost her appeal to regain uk citizenship . was that
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regain uk citizenship. was that yesterday, was it the day before ? i've lost track of time this week doing two shows a day. i think it was the day before yesterday and of course there are a lot comment pieces in the papers today. the teacher who was serious injured in the 2017 suicide on suicide bomb attack on the minister. course, that 22 minister. of course, that 22 lives, says today shamima lives, she says today shamima begum should never be allowed back to the uk. agree. i completely agree and i think that this is extremely powerful. this victim isn't the man of the. if this arena bombing saying that the girls who went to the manchester gig 2017. never came home. so why should shamima begum. i think that absolutely hits the nail on the because one of the really frustrating aspects of this entire around big and returning is this constant appeal to sympathy as if she's the victim. the times decide to put a victim of sex trafficking on the front of sex trafficking on the front of the magazine bag and went to go build a state that was genocide . all the trafficked genocide. all the trafficked women that had markets for
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yazidi shia muslims, for. they have committed the worst. some the worst atrocities in the 21st century. the idea that this girl is the victim and we should feel sympathy for her is sick. and the only woman now i mean, we have to remember, she's 23. she's no longer no child. and i think that this is it really, really powerful comment from from victim of the manchester arena bombing because if you remember belgium actually said when she was first interviewed when she was first interviewed when they first found her in the camp that she that she said that she thought the coalition airstrikes in syria were tit for tat she said that she hadn't heard of the manchester bombing i think but she clearly was very much , you know, still at that much, you know, still at that point very much behold , turned point very much behold, turned to the to isis's ideology , to the to isis's ideology, waited till the very, very final hour to leave the project of building islamic state. so i think that we should feel no sympathy for this . i think that
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sympathy for this. i think that she should not allowed back. i think it was absolutely the right decision to strip over citizenship. and i think the british public absolutely no obugafion. british public absolutely no obligation . to feel sorry for obligation. to feel sorry for her at all. what would you like to see happen to her then? i think that she should stay. where she is in the camp forever. i think it's not our what happens to her. she made bed. now she has to line . ken bed. now she has to line. ken livingstone, is it our problem ? livingstone, is it our problem? she was born and brought up in london. she's a british citizen . if she's committed a crime, should be in a prison here in. britain not on some horrible little camp in the middle east, which not. i'm being bound by the of laws that apply to our prison. so, i mean if she's guilty this keep in prison but here not send a british citizen to somewhere in the middle east where be subject to all sorts of abuse and not properly being raped . it will be very difficult raped. it will be very difficult . build a case that would see her put behind bars if she came back. her put behind bars if she came back . well, if we can't prove
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back. well, if we can't prove that , why are we back. well, if we can't prove that, why are we keeping . i that, why are we keeping. i mean, if she's found of a crime, a crime , that's led to the death a crime, that's led to the death of people, she be in prison for the rest of her life. but if we can't prove that why are we jailing that? so this is actually really big problem with returning fighters. it's very difficult , secure a prosecution difficult, secure a prosecution because they and a conviction because they and a conviction because it's difficult to collect evidence in war zone particularly for women in islamic state . obviously, this islamic state. obviously, this war took place some time ago now. very difficult . collect now. very difficult. collect evidence of crimes . but that evidence of crimes. but that doesn't mean that the home secretary doesn't have before him that can inform . and he has him that can inform. and he has the power to do this. he has the to strip people of their citizenship if they have dual citizenships. she has claimed to bangladeshi citizenship. she's entitled to it. so that means we haven't actually left her stateless, even if bangladesh don't want her understand or the bangladesh don't want bangladesh said take her back and
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said we'll take her back and she'll and she'll be. she'll be tried and she'll be. so point is she won't face so the point is she won't face justice she she she justice here. she she she will be having be constantly just be having to be constantly just very because we do have very quickly because we do have to move on. but what do you think do if she got think she would do if she got back? that she would back? i think that she would become celebrity here. i think become a celebrity here. i think that's the way that the way that the narrative being currently the narrative is being currently spun, back, spun, she'd probably come back, make of money as make an awful lot of money as some kind of celebrity figure. but she has this potential but she also has this potential to be you she's to be she's you know, she's a symbol that the security services already services have already said. they're going services have already said. thformer going services have already said. thformer war going services have already said. thformer war zones, going services have already said. thformer war zones, placesgoing services have already said. thformer war zones, places like; to former war zones, places like syria. she could become a flashpoint , a symbol for flashpoint, a symbol for extremists. so bringing back here in many ways, i think would be absolutely the opposite of just a can. let me bring this to your big story, the daily telegraph today , labour and the telegraph today, labour and the lib dem bid to block a bill to scrap eu laws . what do you make scrap eu laws. what do you make absolutely right, scrap eu laws. what do you make absolutely right , because those absolutely right, because those eu laws set standards for working conditions, pay levels . working conditions, pay levels. i mean, they have defended the
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lifestyle of ordinary people in this country. if those are scrapped, then a lot of companies will start cutting the wages their staff making life can all sorts of conditions worsen those laws have improved the quality of our life. we should keep. even if we leave. we've the eu. but do you not have faith that all government could create those sorts of laws if keir starmer gets in at the next election, which you may be confident that he will do so, they will be safe in his hands. are they were employment laws? yes under keir starmer they would but not under this government , which is the worst government, which is the worst of my lifetime and the most dishonest of lifetime . okay, dishonest of my lifetime. okay, i'm whip. i think it's i'm a whip. i think it's anti—democratic people anti—democratic if the people vote to change certain laws and those laws ought to be changed. if the if the people vote and. i very much doubt that people are going to vote in a government that are going to take away employment protections and things like that. think that things like that. i think that this a very is a much more this is a very is a much more important issue than the amount
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of attention that it's actually got. i think the rishi sunak and the conservatives are right that we should be scrapping eu legislation and we should be making out because. remember a lot of legislation not lot of this eu legislation not bespoke particular bespoke to any particular country. this is just a one size fits all. leaving the european union was to entail taking back control and having sovereignty and making our own and really in political terms as a nation, growing up and making decisions for ourselves . so of course, we for ourselves. so of course, we should we should decide which laws we want to keep, drop the of them. if we debate every one of them. if we debate every one of these 4000 laws in parliament, we're going be going forever. so you don't need to just keep them as they are . but just keep them as they are. but that's why sit there defending the quality of our life and protecting our environment. take these and life will be worse . these and life will be worse. well, let me know what you think gbviews@gbnews.uk . still to gbviews@gbnews.uk. still to come, i'll give you the latest on a vaping and chris whitty, scathing warning to those selling to teenagers . that's selling to teenagers. that's after your morning's news with
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rhiannon . thank you . 1133 your rhiannon. thank you. 1133 your top stories from the gb newsroom. the number of asylum waiting for an initial decision on their claim has hit 160,000 and that's the highest since records began . the figures come records began. the figures come as the home secretary tells gb news in an exclusive interview that nothing's ruled out when it comes to tackling illegal immigration. more 45,000 people crossed the channel in small boats last year, which suella braverman describes as unacceptable . speaking to liam unacceptable. speaking to liam halligan, she also said she understands why people are frustrated it with hotels, housing seekers. it's clear that we have an unsustainable situation in town towns and cities around our country whereby because of the overwhelming numbers of people arriving here illegally and our legal duties to accommodate them, we are now having to house
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them, we are now having to house them in hotels . that is causing them in hotels. that is causing understandable tensions within communities pressures on local resources resources . and you can resources resources. and you can watch the full 22 minute interview with home secretary on the gb news youtube . channel the gb news youtube. channel police investigating the shooting of detective chief inspector john shooting of detective chief inspectorjohn in shooting of detective chief inspector john in omagh shooting of detective chief inspectorjohn in omagh believe dissident republican group the new i.r.a. have been behind the attack. he was targeted by two masked men who opened fire at a sports centre in front of children last night. he remains in a critical but condition in hospital hospital and sir keir starmer has outlined vision for the country. if labour to win the country. if labour to win the next general election . the next general election. launching his party's five national missions , the labour national missions, the labour leader says the uk needs to more competitive. the economy was highlighted as a top priority and he promised to be tough on
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crime tv online and dab+ radio. this is it's back to best now . this is it's back to best now. welcome back. this is bev turner. emma webb and ken livingston are still with me. we're gonna be talking about sadiq khan's ulez plan. of course, livingstone was the course, ken livingstone was the man introduced man who introduced the congestion charge to london. so i'm going holding him to i'm going to be holding him to account over that. but first of all, concerned about all, are you concerned about your vaping teenagers your children vaping teenagers think very trendy, but think it is very trendy, but should we be doing more to keep bad them right bad habits away from them right . i'm going to talk about that in a moment. a sting in just a moment. he's a sting sting
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has caught up with us. sir chris has caught up with us. sir chris has criticised the marketing vapes. he's described it as saying it's clear that some products are designed to appeal to children. well, research published last july found the number of young people is increasing, with many being influenced social media. let's talk now to julie cook, a journalist who caught her 14 year old son, and john dunn, the director of the vaping industry associate . julie, let me come to associate. julie, let me come to you first. are these too easy teenagers to get their hands on? yes, i think they are. i think, you know , all the evidence you know, all the evidence suggests that they're becoming ever more easy for them to get hold of. my own son was found to be travelling with one recently and some of friends i know , and some of his friends i know, i know. i've seen lots of people around . i live walking around around. i live walking around with a fake in their hand and they're obviously under 16. so i think think it's become think i think it's become endemic teenagers . john, endemic among teenagers. john, you be delighted to hear that
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because the vaping industry is making an absolute fortune in your guarantee , being a your guarantee, being a generation which will be addicted to these products for the 20 years . well, absolutely the 20 years. well, absolutely not. and of the things that the uk has been pushing government for, for instance , is increased for, for instance, is increased fines for retailers that are caught selling to minors. we've called for fines in the region 0 f £10,000. for instance . we've of £10,000. for instance. we've also called for the fact vape stores and retailers selling vape products should be licenced because as your previous speaker said, yes, they are too easy to get a hold of and in outlets that are not designed for the sale of these products. what you need to remember is it's illegal . anybody under the age of 18 to buy a very product in this country. however, very few are actually fined for selling them. you know what should be illegal, john? it should be illegal to make them so attractive to children. bubble gum , strawberry
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children. bubble gum, strawberry bright packaging. you're you're marketing them to kids. absolutely not. products have been around in these flavours for over 11 years in the uk . and for over 11 years in the uk. and vaping has become the most popular way to quit smoking in the uk. it's twice as as all other energy products that were available in the market. adults like flavours . that's a fact. like flavours. that's a fact. and the most most popular flavours out are fruit flavours for . all types of vaping . julie for. all types of vaping. julie this purely marketing to adults andifs this purely marketing to adults and it's in convenience. if the children are find them appealing as well . i completely disagree. as well. i completely disagree. i agree with what you just said, but that they are clearly marketed to children . they are marketed to children. they are flavours that children like sweets flavours, bright colours. i really disagree because when these first came out years ago, they were designed as a way to stop existing smokers, come off smoking safely and they should have been sort of ordinary have been in a sort of ordinary prescriptive package, a plain white things to help you get
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white things how to help you get over smoking habit, not over your smoking habit, not beautiful. pretty elaborately designed lovely pink flavouring and bubblegum water and as you just said, that aimed at and as you say, i worry i worry that this set of children now will start off with this as a gateway drug almost move on to smoking when this doesn't hit the spot any and we'll simply have more smokers . but that any and we'll simply have more smokers. but that is any and we'll simply have more smokers . but that is exactly smokers. but that is exactly what's happening . i would argue what's happening. i would argue that teenagers starting with vaping and they're on to cannabis because becoming so normal to them . john, every normal to them. john, every mother i talk to, every parent i talk to is a massive problem . talk to is a massive problem. what do you think about chris whitty coming out and agreeing that the marketing of them is appalling to use his words . you appalling to use his words. you must have been disappointed to hear . well absolutely , not. hear that. well absolutely, not. i agree with him. i agree that these products shouldn't be on social media. in fact, i had a meeting last week with facebook to talk that very subject. but what's important here? you call , you know, a study that was
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done last year. if you actually read that study , the amount of read that study, the amount of young people that vaping more than once a week that didn't previously smoke is less than 1.7. rubbish point and i should point out in that very report that this is normal teenage trial and actually less than they see in other forms of products that are designed for adults like alcohol. i totally disagree. i would love you to come out with me one day, john, let's go and hang out in the local park or we'll go to a music festival together. you and think we could probably have quite a good time. but i will show you the all the teenage walking around have got in walking around have got them in their 13 year olds, 14 their hands. 13 year olds, 14 year that secretly doing year olds that secretly doing it. thing about vaping it. and the thing about vaping is it like a parent is you smell it like a parent smell cigarettes. that's part of the problem. it they can the problem. it julie. they can get it. i know people get away with it. i know people who've got kids who are vaping their bedrooms. john and their parents know . absolutely parents don't know. absolutely and i totally agree with you on that. and i totally agree with you on that . and do you realise that
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that. and do you realise that out of all of the fines that retailers get, if they are lucky to get fined for selling a vaping product to anybody under the age of 18, they get about a hundred and £50 fine. i talked to trading standards in scotland . they haven't had a single case, has gotten to court for a fine yet. and this is why, as industry, we have called for fines of industry, we have called for fines o f £10,000 industry, we have called for fines of £10,000 instead. fines. right the retailer at the point of service . that's what's going of service. that's what's going to solve this problem . wow. to solve this problem. wow. cigarette packaging has the images on it. obviously the warnings. should you those on vape packaging julie . well vape packaging julie. well i mean i ideally yes. i mean, the trouble is the studies out yet that show just how bad is i think what's going to happen is almost like with the tobacco industry legal states which were industry legal states which were in the last century where people complained years later. why wasn't i warned? why wasn't i told cigarettes were bad for me? where was the government warning? i worry in ten, 15 years time, we might have
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another one of those lawsuits against government companies. like, why wasn't i as a teenager? john why aren't you warning people about the health risks? there must be some. well, well, first of all, first of all, the packaging does have health warnings on it. the exact same warnings, cigarettes same health warnings, cigarettes . but secondly, this is probably one of the most researched products in the history of products. the government itself all of the reports from british. from the public health, england, from old head. now all talk about how vaping is at least 95% less harmful, 220 people a day die in the uk from smoking later diseases. we haven't had single case of anybody in the world dying from vaping e—liquid. that's a fact we can't assess. how can talk about diacetyl which is the product that caused a thing called popcorn lung . a thing called popcorn lung. that was a group of people who were working in a factory making
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put food . you've got a thing put food. you've got a thing called popcorn from breathing in diacetyl, which is a by—product of the products they were making and they up with scarring in and they end up with scarring in their lungs. diacetyl is in their lungs. and diacetyl is in some vapes . so go on. our our some vapes. so go on. our our children breathing in diacetyl as well . well, first of all, as well. well, first of all, they ask that all is a banned substance in vapes that has for over seven years. and also acetone levels that were found the early days of vaping products were at significantly lower levels, in fact, 700 times lower levels, in fact, 700 times lower than in cigarettes. and there hasn't been a single of popcorn lung reported from smoking or vaping in the world. okay right. thank you both, john.i okay right. thank you both, john. i really appreciate it. it would be so easy to just turn down sorts of interviews, but it's a conversation need to be having. we need to be protecting our kids . having. we need to be protecting our kids. thanks so much, both of in the last hour, of you. now in the last hour, the published its the home has published its quarterly migration figures providing overview providing an overview of irregular who come the uk, irregular who come to the uk, including arriving on small boats across the english channel
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with. joining now is our reporter right in dover. good ray. what are the headlines these very important figures . these very important figures. good morning, beth. yeah, i'm here on the dover coastline where so many of those small boats have been over the last 12, 13 months or so that these figures are relating to . the figures are relating to. the home office has announced of this morning that just 46,000 migrants arrive using that small boat route up to december last yeah boat route up to december last year. and they came here on 1109 small boats . 87% of those who small boats. 87% of those who arrived via route last year were . 28% were from albania and 20% from afghan ostend. so those two nationalities making up just under half of all of those who arrived here. now 90% of those who came here claimed asylum ,
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who came here claimed asylum, slightly lower than many people would expect . now, if we compare would expect. now, if we compare those numbers to five years ago, in 2018, just 299 migrants came here on boats. 43, to be precise . so we can see over the last five years that number has just increased. absolutely dramatically. now, i've speaking to residents here . now, perhaps to residents here. now, perhaps or perhaps it is surprising, but i was to see that not many wanted to sort of come on camera . a lot of people have got very , very emotive opinions on subject. some saying that they feel very sorry for the migrants because it's a it's a very difficult, dangerous and scary journey . one person saying to me journey. one person saying to me that they have been forced to take that because there are no options. another saying that when they come here, they should be allowed to work so that they're less of a burden. the taxpayer as well . one lady said taxpayer as well. one lady said to me that she finds very
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frightening when she sees the small boats arrive because she says, you know, we don't know who are, where who these people are, where they've been or what they could potentially have done. also potentially have done. and also other comments, people saying that in terms of their housing, there , many people here, uk there, many people here, uk veterans who miss out on housing with , housing is provided. now, with, housing is provided. now, earlier on, we heard that as part of rishi sunak's pledge to and eliminate the asylum claim backlog are going to have a new fast track scheme introduced by the home office to clear of that backlog, just 12,000 of the 150. so a real sort of drop in the in the ocean. and that said, this appues the ocean. and that said, this applies to people from libya, syria, afghanistan eritrea and yemen as well people who came here before june 28th of last yeah here before june 28th of last year. they'll be allowed apply for refugee status , filling out for refugee status, filling out a ten page questionnaire . the a ten page questionnaire. the officials are saying that in the vast majority of these cases, no asylum will be required and that
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has drawn some criticism with people . well, hold on. what people. well, hold on. what about security and our safety of british residents ? okay. thank british residents? okay. thank you, mary . thanks so much. no you, mary. thanks so much. no doubt there'll be shows ahead of me later today. that will be looking at those figures in detail. but first of all, let me get back my guest this get back to my guest this morning, commentator morning, political commentator emma mayor of emma webb and former mayor of ken right ken, i'm ken livingstone. right ken, i'm going to come to you first on this one, because what it's about less about the low about less this is about the low emission zones in london. sadiq khan loves them. he absolutely loves them. he wants them to be further and expanding into greater london by councils who are opposed of these ambitions to expand you less have politics. a lawsuit claiming the move is unlawful. a city khan has said well if i lose i haven't got any budgetary solution as to how i'm going to plug solution as to how i'm going to plug that gap. this all started with you. well, went i introduced the congestion charge that was legally challenged tory councillors too. but then the
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death toll went down by 12% from air pollution and now air pollution period of time. how is that quantifiable over a few years it went down by 12. but if just look at this now when boris johnson beat me for mayor he scrapped my plan to tackle all these air pollution . and then these air pollution. and then under his eight years, 76,000 londoners dying from air pollution . so sadiq khan is pollution. so sadiq khan is going to be tens of thousands lives and we should all try our weight behind that to drive . weight behind that to drive. i've never driven in my life , i've never driven in my life, just got on the bus, on the tube well, okay , i'm aware, but i'll well, okay, i'm aware, but i'll go on that bombshell. i'll come to you dido this i have nothing. ihave to you dido this i have nothing. i have nothing. ken livingstone , you started the death of the car. i have something like. oh, man a lot outline for man has got a lot outline for and the death of the car at the moment it feels like a war on the motorist and the cost of this to local shops to high to families to children being taken to sports activities, all the stuff that make life worth
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living can we can't do that on a bus or a bike. you can do on. i've been on a bus on a bus in the tube all my life or you can walk power which makes it healthier for you being i always just drive . i mean really just drive. i mean really damages health. you'll live longer if don't drive you've got a bad knee from walking all your life . you know that. that's my life. you know that. that's my mum. i hate my grandma. it's a family. oh, well , look, i like family. oh, well, look, i like the safety of my car emma webb. i want to be able to lock my doors and be safe if you hit someone else and you blow up . someone else and you blow up. well, i can't hit anybody. i don't get 20 miles an hour in car in london at the moment. i mean, know what you mean about the fact that it might be for a quicker congestion charge it made no difference quicker congestion charge it made no differenc e £12.50 to made no difference £12.50 to take a car out my house if it's an old one. so firstly all well and good talking about taking a bus walking but that's no bus or walking but that's no goodif bus or walking but that's no good if you're tradesman or good if you're a tradesman or you're charity that of you're a charity that sort of delivering people. delivering to homeless people. you also people who need to be
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able to drive london. but this is not about london is it? this is not about london is it? this is about greater london. this is about inside the m25. i that about inside of the m25. i that this charge is just sadiq this ulez charge is just sadiq khan treating , the people within khan treating, the people within the m25 as his piggybank. i agree . this is all about money. agree. this is all about money. this is about sadiq khan milking the people of london for the purposes of filling holes in his budget . i purposes of filling holes in his budget. i think that the ulez charges are ups slightly wrong. i think that it is penalising working people or tradesmen who need to be able to drive particularly mean we're one of the councils that has has taken this lawsuit is in surrey so know we're talking about people on the of london in greater london who are on the borders of places essex and kent who are living in areas which are very much not central london , not much not central london, not necessarily well connected by buses and transport routes. and so on. this is sadiq khan milking the people of this to
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fill the time. but he's made it. i'm not doing this. get more money. he's doing it to save their lives . thousands of people their lives. thousands of people are dying every month from this. but they aren't really. they can like , you know, people who die like, you know, people who die of lung conditions. they may be exempt , of lung conditions. they may be exempt, abated by poor air, but they are healthy people dropping deadin they are healthy people dropping dead in the streets because we've got a thick smog that is suffocating people. they dying from air pollution we've got from the air pollution we've got in our and our skies. i mean, it's appalling i mean literally all my people have been dying from . air pollution in london from. air pollution in london and.the from. air pollution in london and. the questions that went down when i introduced the various changes i made and it's gone up when those are removed, when under boris johnson's eight years as mayor, seven 86,000 londoners dying from air pollution and many of those that voted for him and they died because of it. i typically i think it's a typically bourgeois policy from labour . yeah, i policy from labour. yeah, i
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totally agree that is not at all accounting for people who can't afford to upgrade car to something flashy that doesn't out as much fuel fumes necessarily. and also just want to take the bus and don't want to take the bus and don't want to walk don't want to cycle . to walk don't want to cycle. we're going back to mediaeval old britain it seems in the name of development if it's mediaeval we have to be on horses . would we have to be on horses. would you be. that's. i'd be in favour of i mean but but genuinely like a park can have you ever. oh can you picture it must be like for a working parents to do the school run via the supreme to get their kids to an activity to back to the office, to take a dishwasher on to an elderly room. if you can't do on a bike, do it better by getting more buses.i do it better by getting more buses. i more routes. and in expanding our public transport. so you should be able to get it. you just can't do all that. you can't do that. i massively expanded public transport in my eight years as my lives in one of these areas on the on the
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very outskirts of he's a van driver he needs his van for work . he drives out into his office in the country. it's not somewhere like central london. this policy is screwing over hard working people at a time when they simply afford it and it's wrong . it's saving their it's wrong. it's saving their lives . it's not saving their lives. it's not saving their lives. it's not saving their lives . the number of things that lives. the number of things that have been pushed through and the safety and the as you say, the paternalistic desire of the left to start saving everyone's lives . we just get on with our lives . anyway, it's been lovely to you both here this morning. great conversation . thank you, great conversation. thank you, ken. thanks, emma . we've come to ken. thanks, emma. we've come to the end of the show . it has the end of the show. it has absolutely flown this morning. i'll be back on you telly again tonight at 8:00. sitting in week until we have a new personnel and gb news from monday onwards i'll be there 8:00 tonight, eight till nine. but coming up next is gb news live with mark. i am bev turner. i'll see you
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later at 8:00 and then i'm not on tomorrow. so that's the last day of the week. have a great day. hello again. and welcome to your tv news forecast. with me luke miall. we've got some weather across some parts of the country today. still quite and damp across southern areas and some and windy weather across north of scotland overnight . north of scotland overnight. we've got high pressure to the west of the uk a ridge extends its way through central parts, bringing the brightest of weather. but as you can see, a frontal system just clearing the southwest and another system pushing scotland pushing in across scotland through so here it will through the day. so here it will turn for turn wetter and windier for a time the best of the sunshine. today will be northern england, southern scotland into wales and the midlands, but still grey, quite damp across some quite misty and damp across some southern areas, still bits and pieces of light, rain and drizzle across southwest drizzle across the southwest into afternoon . temperatures into the afternoon. temperatures not bad on the face. it not too bad on the face. it probably feeling quite cool under but not too under the cloud, but not too bad. where got the sunshine through this evening though that rain and strong become more dominant across scotland. some
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gales for the far north east, but most of the rain tends to fizzle midnight. just some fizzle after midnight. just some bits , pieces drifting southwards bits, pieces drifting southwards with skies across with the clear skies across southern england. attach southern england. they attach a frost forming here, so you will need across wales need scraper across south wales . southern england first thing on friday morning . so a chilly on friday morning. so a chilly start to the day here, some sunshine around first thing. but as i that is drifting as i say that is drifting southward. the skies turning southward. so the skies turning milky at and grey. southward. so the skies turning milky at and grey . and i think milky at and grey. and i think for some places as this cold front drifts southwards, we will see a bits and pieces of see a few bits and pieces of rain, one or two heavy bursts likely farther north. so where we see the cold front, we see behind the cold front, we'll see some skies, one we'll see some clear skies, one or two for eastern or two showers for eastern coast. quite a key breeze, so feeling chilly here. but feeling quite chilly here. but again, temperatures not too bad for this stage in as we get into friday night. then we continue to see one or two bits and pieces of rain just clearing the southwest showers for the east clear spells for much of the country we will allow a few missed fog patches and some frost to form. high pressure dominates for the next few days
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it's 12 noon. very good afternoon and welcome to gb news live with me, mark longhurst. and coming up to this thursday . and coming up to this thursday. police confirmed they have not arrested three men after a senior off duty policeman was shot in omagh in front of his son and other youngsters. detective chief inspector john caldwell had been helping with football practise at the town's youth centre to gunmen at least two believed to have struck his critical but in a stable condition. the latest outrage set to hit the picturesque town scene a real ira bombing back scene of a real ira bombing back in 1998 that killed 29. we'll have the latest from omagh . an have the latest from omagh. an exclusive interview with gb news. the home secretary suella
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