dup's sammy wilson about the the dup's sammy wilson about the unionists demands. the dup's sammy wilson about the unionists demands . john bolton, unionists demands. john bolton, the former us. national security adviser under donald trump, joins me to discuss first anniversary of the war in ukraine. along with a lexicon cherenkov the mayor of odesa all that and more at 30 on . that and more at 30 on. sunday welcome to mark dolan tonight. it's coming up in the next hour as boris johnson plotting to down rishi sunak. i'll be asking boris, his biographer, tom bower . also a year on from the russian invasion, will ukraine be the forever war.7 i'll be to the man who coined that very phrase. top historian martin whittaker and some news on a friday marriage is good for your

health, apparently should we do more to encourage it.7 you better ask mrs. dolan . i'll be debating ask mrs. dolan. i'll be debating that story with the twice married entertainment personal. lizzie, danielle lloyd. plus the now legendary gb news eclipse of the week. highs and lows from a week on. the people's channel. lots to get through . of course. lots to get through. of course. we've got all your favourite elements denying the big opinion. my take ten and mark meets so much to get through, but first the headlines with polly middlehurst . mark, thank polly middlehurst. mark, thank you. good evening . the uk has you. good evening. the uk has marked one year since russia first invaded ukraine with a minute's silence today. maybe as people across the uk

stood a downing street prime minister rishi sunak stood alongside ukraine's ambassador , alongside ukraine's ambassador, the uk reflecting on country's losses and at downing street as britain announced new sanctions, including an export ban on equipment russia uses on the battlefield . whilst president battlefield. whilst president putin's closest allies have also been targeted . on and in kyiv, been targeted. on and in kyiv, president volodymyr zelenskyy attended ceremony with families of soldiers in the conflict. he described the last 12 months for his country as a year pain and sorrow. but also a faith and unity . what another needs today. unity. what another needs today. detectives investigating the attempted murder of a police officer in omagh in county tyrone have made a fifth arrest. detective chief inspector john caldwell , in detective chief inspector john caldwell, in a detective chief inspector john caldwell , in a critical caldwell, in a critical condition in hospital after

being shot outside a sports centre on wednesday evening . centre on wednesday evening. police in northern ireland say they are treating the incident as a terrorist related incident. with the terror group, the new ira, the chief line of inquiry, sinn fein's vice president, michelle o'neill, described the shooting as an attack on the community. i think it's important that we continue to send a united message to wider society. we this year celebrate 25 years of our good friday agreement and so much that's been achieved over those past 25 years. our society has been completely transformed and we're not going to allow anybody to reverse any that progress reverse any of that progress that's made. that's why that's been made. so that's why it's important that we do it's very important that we do put across today. but this is an attack the community. is attack on the community. this is an all of us. and this an attack on all of us. and this is that none of us is an attack that none of us will ever tolerate. junior doctors are to stage three days of strike action next month. the british medical association has announced. they'll walk off the job from the 13th of march. nearly 37,000 bma members voted favour of industrial action .

favour of industrial action. that's the largest ever turnout . a ballot of doctors and it follows a series of strikes by nurses and ambulance workers . nurses and ambulance workers. and lastly, the publishing house puffin uk has that roald dahl's classic will still be using the author's original descriptions and expression . it follows and expression. it follows criticism . the recent editing of criticism. the recent editing of his work to remove potentially offensive language. understood. puffin uk will continue the publication of amended texts as well as continuing to release the original versions. well as continuing to release the original versions . camilla, the original versions. camilla, the original versions. camilla, the queen consort , yesterday the queen consort, yesterday urged authors to resist kerbs on their freedom of expression . you their freedom of expression. you up to date on tv, online and dab, plus radio . this is gb dab, plus radio. this is gb news. the people's channel. time for mark dolan .

for mark dolan. my for mark dolan. my reaction to the end of a story of the invasion of ukraine at 9:00 in a big opinion special welcome to mark dolan tonight. coming up in the next hour, is bofis coming up in the next hour, is boris johnson plotting to take down rishi sunak .7 i'll be asking down rishi sunak.7 i'll be asking boris, his biographer , boris, his biographer, bestselling author tom bower. also, a year on from that russian invasion will be the forever war. i'll be talking to the man who coined that very phrase, top historian martin whittaker joins me shortly. and some positive news on a friday marriage is good for your health, apparently . so should we health, apparently. so should we do more to it.7 i'll be debating that with twice married entertainment personality danielle lloyd . after nine. as danielle lloyd. after nine. as well as my comments on ukraine i'll be looking after sir keir starmer who outlines his five point plan for power. i can give you 50 reasons why we don't . a

you 50 reasons why we don't. a labour government . yes, the labour government. yes, the tories are terrible . but is tories are terrible. but is starmer really the answer? that's my big at nine. and the big question . is it the big question. is it the government's job to feed schoolchildren? we'll debate that with tory legend edwina currie and steffi curran from punk against poverty after ten my moat meets guest is quite a character a model socialite and lady victor maria hervey who has been romantically linked prince andrew no less . this is mark andrew no less. this is mark dolan tonight we're going to have a busy evening, so put something and fizzy in the fridge or fire up the kettle and let us have a night to remember . now the associate editor of the telegraph, christopher hope, soon to be joining gb news is reporting in today's paper boris johnson has been holding secret talks with the european research group of conservative brexiteer

mps and the democratic unionist to help resolve the brexit crisis in northern ireland as rishi sunak closes in on a breakthrough with brussels over northern could boris johnson put a spanner in the works and once again place himself at the heart of the brexit story? and if so, what is his motivation by stoking divisions within the tory party and among unionists ? tory party and among unionists? is boris johnson trying to bring down rishi sunak ? let's get the down rishi sunak? let's get the views of his biographer tom bower, who has written the bestselling book the gambler, all boris johnson and which out now. hi, tom. tom, it's great to have you on the program. is this a machiavelli and a plot by bofis a machiavelli and a plot by boris johnson to unseat rishi sunak ? well, i don't think sunak? well, i don't think there's any secret that boris blames rishi for his downfall,

and he thinks that rishi plotted against him. and by resigning at the beginning, then forced the other 60 ministers to withdraw their support for boris. the trouble is that boris cannot come to terms with the that he lost office. having won his spectacular election victory. all because of his own conduct. it was all his own fault and just will not reconcile himself to that reality and that truth and he has no contrition and doesn't know how to actually rebuild. at the moment his popularity, however , there's no popularity, however, there's no doubt that rishi playing a very, very strange and i think fatal game in these irish negotiations because he had a group in the dup not being taken into his confidence about what he is doing. and i had dinner last night with a leading member of the group who is frankly puzzled

. what is rishi playing ? and . what is rishi playing? and he's playing at the moment into the hands not only of the eu but also of boris. and that is the problem. he is not a proper and it he's got, what, three days now to pull the out of the hat and produce deal. and at the moment the thinking is that he doesn't have it. what are the motivations of subject of your book. boris johnson. is he dnven book. boris johnson. is he driven by revenge or a desire to re—enter . driven by revenge or a desire to re—enter. number 10? i think both . and of course, he wants to both. and of course, he wants to go back number 10. he realises is that he made some catastrophic errors. but the problem that he hasn't got , i problem that he hasn't got, i think the parliamentary to get back into office unless you complete leave marks up this negotiation with the eu and also has a rotten rotten performance in the may elections . the real

in the may elections. the real problem for boris is that it was bofis problem for boris is that it was boris who made keir starmer electable. wasn't electable a year ago. it was only because of bofis year ago. it was only because of boris conduct that this whole edifice of tory supremacy collapsed and rishi is not a great politician , just as being great politician, just as being polite. he is allowing boris the freedom to express his opposition to a deal which is yet not announced. i mean , i yet not announced. i mean, i believe not even yet formula eight it and that's the problem .bons eight it and that's the problem . boris is playing games rishi is not in total. . boris is playing games rishi is not in total . many fear that is not in total. many fear that the prime minister will sell northern ireland out to brussels in this forthcoming deal. northern ireland out to brussels in this forthcoming deal . would in this forthcoming deal. would brexit be safer in the hands of bofis brexit be safer in the hands of boris johnson ? well yes and no. boris johnson? well yes and no. in of course it would be because although rishi is a brexiteer ,

although rishi is a brexiteer, he isn't a politician , knows how he isn't a politician, knows how to get the support of the g8 group. let alone hammer a hard deal with brussels we've got to see on monday what he . the see on monday what he. the problem is though of course there is great sympathy given bofisin there is great sympathy given boris in the party across the country. but he is the person who is the architect who is in and what is to say that he will be to rebuild the party and the country and supporting the country and supporting the country over the following . and country over the following. and thatis country over the following. and that is the problem . he didn't that is the problem. he didn't in the end deliver any of the benefits of brexit when he was prime minister and he allowed this irish situation to perpetuate itself. it should have been resolved long ago and so that is the problem that bofis so that is the problem that boris got that he doesn't offer as . all he offers is resistance as. all he offers is resistance and dissent and you can't build

support on negatives. you've got to present the positive to as party grassroots threaten to oust sitting due to his eviction from number 10. will this party ever get over boris ? i camps? ever get over boris? i camps? well, i think that there is a of recrimination and. the party does have to rebuild itself . the does have to rebuild itself. the question is whether it can rebuild itself in the next 12 months. if rishi did deliver a great deal on monday, which the and the dup supported , then of and the dup supported, then of course, there would be a groundswell support for rishi. that's the that is the 64 question , which no one at the question, which no one at the moment can answer. it is creating such a strange game. but of course , this manhunt, a but of course, this manhunt, a witch hunt against boris mps , is witch hunt against boris mps, is very unsavoury. i think it's a mistake for any constituency to

remove an mp just because they supported boris. remove an mp just because they supported boris . and the supported boris. and the opposite too, especially before an election is destabilising and doesn't help anybody . but the doesn't help anybody. but the party does need . new blood the party does need. new blood the party does need. new blood the party needs people who are going to be loyal to whoever is leader and is at the moment the questionable . but of course, questionable. but of course, tom, you've written, you know , a tom, you've written, you know, a capacious biography of boris johnson. he has his talents, which are, well , bright johnson. he has his talents, which are, well, bright said in your bestselling book, but so does rishi sunak am i the only person on the planet that thinks that shares in rishi sunak are too low given the fact that he has settled the nerves of the financial markets , he looks on financial markets, he looks on target to halve inflation within a year. he's very focussed on stopping the boats, which is not something that came up in keir starmer's speech yesterday and i just wonder whether there's more to this guy than meets the eye. well, i mean, you could be

generous . the problem well, i mean, you could be generous. the problem is this , generous. the problem is this, that he undoubtedly is intelligent and absorbs a lot of information the rg group gave him various documents to explain to him. the irish problem and he read the documents, read carefully and was then converted . there's no doubt was very ignorant about that. it is not part of his hinterland and part of his personal interest, so he had a lot to learn. the problem is this is not a good community. cator is not a grassroots gutter politician. he is not someone who's actually gone into the heartlands of the working class and campaign and i always think in my long years as a political observer, you've got to judge a prime prime minister and leader by his cronies. who is he got him and his appointment of james forsyth, the political editor of the spectator as his political strategist , just revealed, rishi strategist, just revealed, rishi sunak to be very, very weak in

his political understanding . and his political understanding. and there's no doubt that everyone who goes into ricci's office at the moment and sees his advisers there , henry newman, still a man there, henry newman, still a man who really doesn't come on to any respect in the tory party . any respect in the tory party. there's lord bew at who really isn't a politician and he isn't surrounded by people who confidence that he understands the challenge over the next year to the tory party . expose all to the tory party. expose all the fallacies and ludicrous assumptions of what the labour government could do . and that is government could do. and that is the problem . he doesn't instil the problem. he doesn't instil confidence . the question is confidence. the question is whether he can do it over the next few months and monday's erg to the irish so—called irish treaty, the eu will be the first real marker of what rishi sunak is made of tom bower. ukraine a

year on a low for the world, but one of the high points of boris johnson's premiership absolutely . there's no doubt that in his historical he did understand the fundamental challenge to our democracy and to the west, and he led right from the beginning , not only in europe, but also in america. the importance of that issue, there's no doubt that issue, there's no doubt that he scored very heavily on that. and zelenskyy rightly credits boris with having turned europe from , what was a very europe from, what was a very weak position to strength and in delivering now the tanks and the rest and, that is to boris, is credit . but the problem rest and, that is to boris, is credit. but the problem is that that doesn't win elections and of course he's right, but it doesn't mean he understood that levelling huge sums is on the british not getting to grips with the health service, not getting to grips with education, transport and all the other

energy problems. the rest. he missed domestic agenda, so yes, he was great on foreign issues. the key issue of our time . but the key issue of our time. but he was wrong. unfortunately on so much of the domestic agenda . so much of the domestic agenda. and that is why the tories are now being punished because he the end made keir starmer electable . and for that many electable. and for that many people will not forgive him. time we could spend the hour on the subjects of your various bestselling biographies . latest bestselling biographies. latest is revenge meghan harry and the war between windsors. we saw the popular animated comedy show south park mock the couple last week with a storyline in which . week with a storyline in which. they go on chat shows on their so—called privacy tool. we want we want privacy . this couple, we want privacy. this couple, they've become laughing stock, haven't they ? well, thankfully, haven't they? well, thankfully, yes . haven't they? well, thankfully, yes. have haven't they? well, thankfully, yes . have finally realised that yes. have finally realised that what shallow people , adventurers what shallow people, adventurers they are, that they are people with little proper credibility

as the only person at the moment who i fear doesn't realise what a laughing stock they are is the queen of england who it was to believe that you really to limit that it believe that you really to limit thatitis believe that you really to limit that it is coronation needs to have his head examined . i mean, have his head examined. i mean, they're the last people who should be coming to london in may for that very, very important occasion, because they would undermine solemnity and the importance of the coronation. so thank fully the are shooting themselves in the foot in the head and everywhere else and making themselves a laughing stock and being now exposed for what they really are, which money is money grabbing attention seekers? but i just hope the king charles realises they're not welcome in britain and they're going do him no good at all. tom bower, always the greatest joy and privilege to have you on the show. tom bower is the author of gambler, a brilliant book on bofis gambler, a brilliant book on boris johnson . tom bower knows boris johnson. tom bower knows

bofis boris johnson. tom bower knows boris better than he knows himself. and other page turner revenge , meghan, harry and the revenge, meghan, harry and the war between the windsors is out now of course having won rave reviews . ukraine one year on reviews. ukraine one year on we'll discuss that with martin whitlock next to top historian who coined the phrase forever war. could it be that will be debating this in another year time? let's hope not. don't forget nine all your favourite elements of the show the big opinion in we toby dealing with keir starmer. he opinion in we toby dealing with keir starmer . he reckons opinion in we toby dealing with keir starmer. he reckons he's got a five point plan. well i've got a five point plan. well i've got 50 reasons why we don't want a labour government all of that come tomorrow's papers. my take at ten march meets lady victoria harvey so much to get through don't go anywhere .

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i'll be debating that with the brilliant peter edwards from labour list later in the show. now today a year as you well know since the russian invasion of ukraine, what are the implications for you and me in relation to this conflict? why should we care? could this conflict be resolved the next few months with a careful choreographed piece which allows both sides to claim victory? or could this be the war? a phrase coined by my next guest top historian and bestselling martin whittaker . hi, historian and bestselling martin whittaker. hi, martin. could evening. good to see you again . evening. good to see you again. great to have you back on the program . what does russia want program. what does russia want out of this war, martin? well, that's a very good question. i think the key thing is what did russia want out of this war last , february? and what does russia want out of this war now? and i think those are two different questions with two different

answers. i think february putin answers. i think february putin a swift military operation. remember special operation, of course, is not a war, as you remember, that everything going to be over in two weeks. kyiv would fall zelenskyy would flee . a puppet government would be established the russkies near the russian world would be in large and establish a nation whose legitimacy and signified once he recognised its its legitimacy, but always thought it was significant , will be it was significant, will be brought back into the fold and the west would be disunited and would let him get away with it as largely it . when he'd seized as largely it. when he'd seized crimea . in 2014. now those are crimea. in 2014. now those are the plans in 2022 and the problem is they didn't go to plan . the ukrainians didn't plan. the ukrainians didn't collapse . the west began to wean collapse. the west began to wean itself off russian oil and gas remained more united. and ever

biden stood firm. so now the question is, what does putin now? and i the other thing is i think there's a good there's a good argument that last what he wanted was a war in 2022. consolidated in 2023, then going the country for the presidential election in russia in 2024, off the back of , this extraordinary the back of, this extraordinary victory . well that happen did victory. well that happen did it. and i think at the moment his biggest goal is to survive this war. it's difficult now to disentangle him from . the war. disentangle him from. the war. his state of the nation speech last tuesday was basically strong on rhetoric. everybody at fault. not my fault is all fault of the west. it's all the fault of. nato things are going okay. i'm going to pull out of the new start strategic reduction arrangements. whether so now he's down. and i think talking as much to his own constituents at home as he is to the world

abroad. and he's saying i'm in it. i'm going to win it and i'm going to out resolve you. i think at the moment his biggest aim is to stand firm and hope that the resolve of the west weakens before his resolve, because, frankly at the moment he has nowhere to go . i suspect he has nowhere to go. i suspect he's putting a lot of pressure if. he can put pressure or please rather to the chinese to edge, but they're keeping a distance . we should recognise distance. we should recognise the fact that although the chinese have been quite supportive . the russians they supportive. the russians they clearly don't want this war to roll roll out. it's bad for roll on, roll out. it's bad for the bad for the economy is bad for themselves . so although and themselves. so although they and themselves. so although they and the indians, for example, of buying a lot more from russia, which helping the russians to which is helping the russians to keep going. so example, the sanctions have caused a 2.2% decline of the russian economy in the last year, not the 6% decline that was anticipated. so that's doing better than expected. nevertheless, these major players in india, for example, china , do not want this

example, china, do not want this to war on. so i think he in a bind. he is in a bind. and i think the biggest thing we got for now is that those erstwhile allies, china , for example, will allies, china, for example, will put pressure upon in a way that the west simply cannot him to do and say, you have got to come to some sort of negotiation because we are not going to back forever. he bet the farm and his bet has called . okay, well, i'll bet has called. okay, well, i'll identify that last answer that you putin to have made a that putin himself feels like he's made a mistake but he can't turn back time. do you think the west needs to hand a diamond and crusted golden ladder to climb down? do we need a stage managed and choreograph soft piece that is win win for both sides ? this is win win for both sides? this is win win for both sides? this is really important . it's really is really important. it's really important that the west makes it clear that our war is not with russia , that we don't desire the

russia, that we don't desire the destruction of russia. we don't desire the dismemberment of russia. all that simply fuels russian and feeds putin narrative. if you see what to me we have make it quite clear our war. well we're not at war are we. but our position is against him . it's against his regime. him. it's against his regime. and hopefully the message will then through to those around him. but if the boss goes in some or another, not caused by us i mean not caused by us. but if the boss goes, then we are willing to do business with comes next. and i think we have to make that clear because the moment it's very difficult to see a peace that would last two or three years ago ukraine would never have accepted the loss of crimea , but would have been to crimea, but would have been to prepared put up with it while they a future they would not have been prepared to have officially the loss of the donbas but would have been somehow have live with it while they negotiate to the future.

there has such suffering, such loss that i think ukraine would not find it almost impossible to accept the loss of ukraine sorry, the loss of crimea, the of the donbas, and yet somehow we have to somehow square the circle because russia is not about to give up those without a considerable escalation of the war is too. it's for nobody's . war is too. it's for nobody's. so the biggest is regime change change of heart of the kremlin but brought about by the russians security apparatus. and at the moment a long way from that. there's no signs of that. but these things can change. two easy questions for you, marty . easy questions for you, marty. what chance of nuclear war? what chance of world war iii? i think not a nuclear war? you'd be relieved . know? i think much of relieved. know? i think much of this sabre is to frighten us. it's to alarm us. it's a bully tactic. i think as long as ensure that nature does not go

head to head with russia , it's head to head with russia, it's really important. we don't give putin that existential that he would like to claim . then would like to claim. then i think i genuinely do think that the nuclear option is him attempt to bully and to coerce . attempt to bully and to coerce. and i have no doubt whatsoever that behind the scenes through channels the chinese and other people who are supportive of him in some form or another will make it quite clear to him that is utterly unacceptable to use nuclear weapons of tactical nature, and certainly of a strategic nature . i think we are strategic nature. i think we are not on the brink of world war three. on the other hand, we have to handle this very carefully. we must make sure that no head to head clearly between and russia, and we between nato and russia, and we must firm and hope that must stand firm and hope that within russia itself, must stand firm and hope that within russia itself , both the within russia itself, both the russian people, particularly within the security apparatus will begin to against boss. will begin to against the boss. but we cannot make regime change. i mean, remember libya,

remember iraq. it doesn't work. we can't do we're not about to put tanks in moscow . you know, put tanks in moscow. you know, our biggest hope is a collapse of morale within . russia and the of morale within. russia and the removal of the boss. comprehensive answers there . i comprehensive answers there. i feel i've learned a huge amount as i always do when i read your books. martin whitlock is , the books. martin whitlock is, the author of books on the third reich. north myths and legends. the vikings . jesus. the the vikings. jesus. the unauthorised biography. how you got access. there is anyone's guess. what's the latest that latest book you've got out ? well latest book you've got out? well as you know, i also wrote the secret history soviet russia's police state, which looks putin and his and his police back where that explains it. i've delivered to my new york publishers literally this week a book called american , which book called american, which looks at how vikings did get to america . we know that from america. we know that from archaeological now and how they influence american ideas about itself right through to the 21st

century. how they appear on. all right, propaganda and how they challenge in the popular mythology , how everything from mythology, how everything from marvel comics through to hollywood engages with them. so called american vikings . the called american vikings. the norse sailed into the lands and the imaginations of america. but that's coming in the autumn. well, i look to you joining us in the studio to us all about it. you're right. mention your book on on russia and the history of kremlin, the kgb. fascinating stuff. martin whittaker, thank you for your time. we'll catch up soon. lots more to come. don't forget at 9:00, in a big opinion special. my 9:00, in a big opinion special. my thoughts one year on from the russian of ukraine. also though, in my big opinion, i'll be making and time to deal with keir starmer who reckons he's got a five point plan for britain. i've got 50 reasons why we don't want a labour government, all of that to come plus my mob meets guest. a socialite model you name it.

entrepreneur prince andrew's ex. if you the papers. lady victoria harvey live in studio. plus the papers . my harvey live in studio. plus the papers. my panel. so much more to come . but next up. marriage to come. but next up. marriage is good for you. who knew? see you .

in three. good news, folks. marriage is good for you. just when you thought your other half was sending you to an early grave. new research the us suggests those who get married live longer and have fewer health ailments with male bachelors , ailments with male bachelors, for example, twice as likely to die from heart failure . what die from heart failure. what a relief. all we basically in a crisis. why are people getting divorced when makes us live longer? let us discuss all of this with entertainment broadcaster and personality danielle . hi danielle . hello. i

danielle. hi danielle. hello. i welcome . it's great to see you welcome. it's great to see you on show. now, danielle, you've been married a couple of times, i'm delighted to say very happily. second time round. do you believe in marriage . well, you believe in marriage. well, yeah. at home, husbands about this statistic. before i knew like. well, thank god . i think like. well, thank god. i think it's a bit a crazy one really for us getting kicked down. the fact that i think if you settle down, you don't go out as much, you don't drink more. i think that's what must be the statistic . i mean, it's the statistic. i mean, it's the women that keep the attacks . women that keep the attacks. well, it is. i just i just wonder, though, whether i wonder whether it's marriage is better for men than women. because i just wonder whether women are often a calming on men, especially with those issues you've talked about, like drinking . well, i think if you

drinking. well, i think if you ask my husband, i'm definitely in a comment because i ask him something to do every hour of every single day . so he probably every single day. so he probably would like know . but i to be every single day. so he probably would like know. but i to be in a relationship and a marriage i think it's important have more stability you are more stable you have a routine. of most people's marriage obviously when they're . yeah. if you're single they're. yeah. if you're single you go out you and i do lot more. you have a lot more fun. so but in a world of tinder where you can find love in the palm of your hand. what's the point in committing to one person ? i couldn't be. farther person? i couldn't be. farther south, more than one. i mean, god say it's hard enough. looking after one person alone , looking after one person alone, another . i looking after one person alone, another. i think i. it's nice to be in a relationship . i think be in a relationship. i think it's, you know, someone's home to a stable say is you know it's

someone that love she you. and i think you know it's go out and have a fling each weekend or whatever but it's it is nice like i love having a family. like if i didn't have my big family when the boys go away , family when the boys go away, like, oh my god, what am i going to do with. so quiet . who? we're to do with. so quiet. who? we're going to cook. it to do with. so quiet. who? we're going to cook . it gets it's not going to cook. it gets it's not interesting me. so i love that big family you know struck to the lifestyle i just i couldn't be bothered with like the total independence anymore too old for that. independence anymore too old for that . i wouldn't say that. independence anymore too old for that. i wouldn't say that. but i do get your point, danielle. we you know, we have trouble. we're in love, don't we? we have our ups and downs. you've you've had a couple. well, i guess quite well—publicised, because in the pubuc well—publicised, because in the public eye water, what have you learned . relationships that learned. relationships that didn't work out is the key to a happy marriage do you think ? i happy marriage do you think? i think in a happy marriage you've

got a baby equal to someone like you for a sale like . deep love you for a sale like. deep love both is a quality that and feel like you are now i may have my best friends . we do everything best friends. we do everything together . we go into gether, but together. we go into gether, but then on the same hand , we love then on the same hand, we love then on the same hand, we love the tv shows . you know, we watch the tv shows. you know, we watch the tv shows. you know, we watch the same things on that. that is just part of it. you grow old together . i just part of it. you grow old together. i can imagine as an eight years old still goes , can eight years old still goes, can i be far ? well, it's still i be far? well, it's still coming. i mean, watch them, break off for some. yeah. and you'll probably look the way you do now because you're so well preserved. i totally agree. i've been married to mrs. dolan for a. well, i better get this right now . we together nearly 25 now. we together nearly 25 years, married . for nine years. years, married. for nine years. and there you for. i've dodged a bullet there. i didn't. i the important thing is that they're your best friend. i think that's

the point that the foundation, a marriage is friendship. yes you need love. little bit of need love. a little bit of nookie is always welcome. but friendship yeah, friendship is the key. yeah, exactly. and i think, you know , exactly. and i think, you know, nobody's relationship perfect. we are all going to have arguments. we're all going to walk off days . well, if you are walk off days. well, if you are best friends , you will always best friends, you will always work out . now, can we talk about work out. now, can we talk about 7 work out. now, can we talk about ? the biggest radio show in the country danielle and that is the mid—morning show on radio two, currently hosted by ken bruce, a very talented one of my heroes in his early seventies , he's in his early seventies, he's leaving radio two to be replaced by another talented guy, vernon kay. over 30 years younger. all we in this nation know what it's really hard outside of . listen really hard outside of. listen to radio because . my kids are to radio because. my kids are aged just because all they want to do was listen to peppa pig. all one of them or the little tv programmes so i don't get to

listens very much. radio even when i'm in the car. but i think is when i do get time to myself in the car. i like to listen to music from my era, so i will listen to something that i like . so guess that when you're in that sort of older where you'd like to listen to bbc , it's sad like to listen to bbc, it's sad rarely when they have to rid of older presenters to bring a new. i don't think it's going to actually help. it might turn people off. i agree especially given the fact the nothing against vern and i'm a really big fan of his but but this guy ken bruce you know it was the biggest show in the country eight and a half million people listening to his show week it's astonishing that the beeb have let go. they did offer him a new contract . but i don't know contract. but i don't know whether he was offered kind of cash that that zoe ball is on for the breakfast show. let's talk about iceland the country danielle. but the supermarket it

looks like they're going to axe several several of their branches . have we fallen out of branches. have we fallen out of love with the supermarket iceland and the idea of frozen food . well i'm actually really food. well i'm actually really devastated on this one because only my iceland me has actually closed down and i got the mail and i got notice through the door. and i got notice through the door . and my kids love iceland . door. and my kids love iceland. they sell notes quick . it's they sell notes quick. it's easy. it's always good to have some of their products just in the freezer if you get one of those my sweet copy of the coke and let's face it we all have the mike kit. they sold amazing products from mike greggs , sly products from mike greggs, sly and when i got that email, i was really devastated. like i actually really do, genuinely love iceland . well, the bottom love iceland. well, the bottom line is that frozen food , very line is that frozen food, very

economical and it lasts forever andifs economical and it lasts forever and it's cheap . exactly. and you and it's cheap. exactly. and you know what? and i seen someone today on the news this morning saying that, you know frozen vegetables or fruit is going into meltdown. she can't get hold it. so they were saying that frozen is just as good . but that frozen is just as good. but we've always been told that fresh is better. so it's a bit of a conflict that that's out now . well, i think the idea of now. well, i think the idea of frozen peas example is that they get frozen on the day that they're picked. so principle, they're picked. so principle, they're fresher than the ones sitting on a shelf . yeah, sitting on a shelf. yeah, exactly . and i always use frozen exactly. and i always use frozen fruits of an a smoothie in the morning . i use them in a lot of morning. i use them in a lot of the stuff that i cook and i even use frozen broccoli and stuff for the boys and frozen sweetcorn. it's so much easier to have in the freezer. last longer and it saves money. send

my love to your rather handsome husband wishing many more years together in holy matrimony and we'll catch up soon. danielle thank you. bye bye . a brilliant thank you. bye bye. a brilliant stuff. entertainment broadcast tv personality, the one and only. danielle lloyd . lots more only. danielle lloyd. lots more to come. don't forget at nine. in my big opinion , my reaction, in my big opinion, my reaction, my comments on a year on ukraine, a war the west must win . i'll also be dealing with keir starmer , who's got five reasons starmer, who's got five reasons why there should be a labour government. well, i could give you 50 reasons why there shouldn't be. that's a big opinion . double. that's right. opinion. double. that's right. you're doubling money. a double bill at 9:00 plus my star panel. we got tomorrow's papers my take it ten on my mark meet guest is the socialite an aristocrat lady victoria hervey romantically unked victoria hervey romantically linked to prince andrew no less she's out later and sparks will fly but . next up, the now iconic fly but. next up, the now iconic of the week, highs and lows from seven days on. the people's

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opening monologue . they will opening monologue. they will hear the words and in an unmistakeable touch it and i will kill you tone tone. there you go. gb news producers mess with nana's at your peril . with nana's at your peril. although, hang on a minute . although, hang on a minute. let's listen to that first bit again. if roald dahl was alive today, he'd turning in his grave . well, i hate to be pedantic if roald dahl was alive today , he roald dahl was alive today, he wouldn't be in a grave. at least ihope wouldn't be in a grave. at least i hope not. maybe the should take a look at that monologue. the genius that is nana akua is back tomorrow at four. now, i really michael portillo's sunday show. it covers politics, arts, culture. it's a great watch. but i didn't realise was so x—rated. i didn't realise was so x—rated. i my morning coffee out when i heard this from one of his rather racy guests growing up fast. rather racy guests growing up fast . so yes, it's a rather racy guests growing up fast. so yes, it's a juggle a lot of balls driving . please

lot of balls driving. please don't boast. it's not polite . don't boast. it's not polite. now i don't know what happened to the this week, but that wasn't the occasion in which the actor and blue michelle dewberry , who i happen to know is a very nicely brought up young woman, left viewers and listeners in shock with this bombshell . you shock with this bombshell. you didn't say, ashley, when it arrives a couple of minutes ago, about the biggest head i've ever seen. i don't know where that heads going. it you must have some send me a some of trying to send me a message, actually about big head or something. i'm saying absolutely saying absolutely nothing. i'm saying absolutely nothing. i'm saying absolutely nothing. i'm saying absolutely nothing . i absolutely nothing nothing. i think you've said enough already, michelle, moving swiftly and been almost swiftly on and it's been almost seven years since we voted to leave the european union, but top like the top commentators like the beunda top commentators like the belinda de lucy still make this classic school error with regard to the b—word, we're being proven right. this was never about cake. this is always about diluting breakfast to the point that diluting breakfast. how do

you dilute breakfast no bacon hold the hash browns, skip the buttered god forbid, no touching my bangers back to the brilliant michael portillo , whose michael portillo, whose programme last sunday, british fashion tailoring. he even into savile row to see those beautiful suits being made and in doing so he demonstrated it extraordinarily accurate of detection that would make even sherlock holmes jealous the business stuff begins here. but of course yes so in the cutting room it cuts. samuel yes . room it cuts. samuel yes. michael pleased to be so. obviously his own . hair cutting obviously his own. hair cutting goes on in the cutting room . goes on in the cutting room. who? hugh suits you over to free speech nation and the brilliant andrew doyle, who every week stands up for women's rights . stands up for women's rights. but even he can get confused about different genders now . about different genders now. justine, where is justine ? justine, where is justine? justin? justin. sorry to say,

justine. on my article i mr. gender at all being that you justin, not justin and that's pretty awkward. let's have a look at who andrew is talking and we can make our own mind up. they may go. this is justin or justin. how could andrew be so confused if ? it justin. how could andrew be so confused if? it is justine. i'll be honest. she's herself. go now. the brilliant patrick christys saying it like it is in relation to that decision by roald dahl's to give his books woke makeover . the snowflakes woke makeover. the snowflakes have got hold of dahl people the world's gone mad now can't say that anyway is he the right thing to do or censorship by the politically correct brigade? absolutely bonkers. you cannot call august gloom fat. he's now enormous. he's i'd rather be called than enormous anyway. either way, he's a fatty bum bum backing him up. either way, he's a fatty bum bum backing him up . fatty, fatty, backing him up. fatty, fatty, bum baba. patrick's politically incorrect version of charlie and

the chocolate factory will be out in time for now, the is an opportunity appear at the end of someone show to plug your own and tell them what's coming up . and tell them what's coming up. and i think it's fair to say that i nailed this one when i popped that i nailed this one when i poppedin that i nailed this one when i popped in to say hello to neil oliver i think that's what he's called next. it's mark dolan tonight mark. what have you got, nick? thank you so much for another brilliant, brilliant party. that's my nickname. of course. that's my little private name for you , oliver. what name for you, oliver. what a show. and there's your clips of the week . slightly embarrassing the week. slightly embarrassing . their senior management have beenin . their senior management have been in touch. they've got me in for a refresh, of course, to remind me what all the presenters at gb news a cold. i think i've got it right now this is the guy that does the prime time show during the week it's dave watson . i think that's dave watson. i think that's right. no spin, no sense of. this this is talk about this this guy is on at 930 every morning bob harwood what a fan

the queen of breakfast annabel webster and last but not least nigella . the jewel in gb news is nigella. the jewel in gb news is crown quite a hottie now i'm thoroughly enjoying brand new sunday politics show, but conversation with cabinet minister mordaunt she might be guilty of oversharing. i think we've entered the realms of too much information. camilla interventions by prime ministers should be like sex in a long and happyin should be like sex in a long and happy in frequent, but also always anticipated glee . i'm not always anticipated glee. i'm not married and i. i come on. it's on the on next folder penny more than their lucky to be unmarried. it doesn't like she's missing out on much. i do hope mrs. dolan isn't watching we finish with yet more spicy language on the channel this week this guest speaking to the marvellous bev turner raising

than a few eyebrows . it wasn't than a few eyebrows. it wasn't me but my colleague was working on the archives of vindolanda and across this object and he's and across this object and he's an expert in ancient world and i am expert in roman dix apparently apparently . yeah. apparently apparently. yeah. sometimes the jokes just write themselves and. those are your clips of the week . if you see clips of the week. if you see anything or if you anything clip worthy drop me a line mark at gb news is .uk. coming in my big opinion as sir keir starmer outlines his five point mission for power, i can give you 50 reasons why we don't want labour government. yes, the tories are terrible , but it's starmer terrible, but it's starmer really the answer . the big really the answer. the big question is it the government's job to feed schoolchildren ? look job to feed schoolchildren? look forward to hearing from tory legend edwina curry and steph curran from punk against poverty

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it's o'clock. and this is mark tonight. in my big opinion as sir keir starmer outlines five point plan for power. i give you 50 reasons why we don't want a labour government. the tories are terrible . is starmer really are terrible. is starmer really the answer ? my mop meets guest the answer? my mop meets guest is lady victoria hervey, the royal insider who has starred in reality tv shows penned at selling books and has been romantically linked to more than one very big name, including prince andrew . in the big prince andrew. in the big question, is it the government's job to feed schoolchildren ? job to feed schoolchildren? edwina currie we'll debate with us very shortly . plus, of

us very shortly. plus, of course, my take at looking forward to debating a very, very hot topic and feed a bunch of workers around the to found out that a four day week works for great of course it does. when did the west give up work ethic last to get through? but first, the headlines with polly middlehurst . mark, thank you and middlehurst. mark, thank you and good evening. the uk has marked one year since russia first invaded ukraine. today with a minute's silence . people across minute's silence. people across the stood at the silence and at the stood at the silence and at the downing street. the prime minister reflected on the losses with ukraine's to the uk . also with ukraine's to the uk. also today, britain imposed new sanctions, including export ban on equipment. russia uses on the

battlefield . and in ukraine battlefield. and in ukraine itself. in the capital kyiv volodymyr zelenskyy attended ceremony with families , soldiers ceremony with families, soldiers killed in the conflict . he killed in the conflict. he described the last 12 months as a year pain and sorrow, but also of faith and unity . a year pain and sorrow, but also of faith and unity. in other news today, the prime minister could soon announce a new deal for northern ireland after holding what was said to be a positive call with the eu commissioner. rishi sunak is likely to meet ursula von der leyen , discuss the northern leyen, discuss the northern ireland protocol this weekend and is also expected to reveal a new deal on monday. number ten says he's had construct to have talks with supermarkets and businesses about the issues he's trying to fix . businesses about the issues he's trying to fix. in an businesses about the issues he's trying to fix . in an exclusive trying to fix. in an exclusive interview with gb news james, cleverly told us how government is approaching negotiation . we is approaching negotiation. we remain focussed the outcome

rather the method and the outcome is to protect northern ireland's place in the united kingdom. to make sure that people and businesses and political representatives of those people , northern ireland, those people, northern ireland, are comfortable with the resolution whilst also making sure that we protect the uk internal. those are very much our motivations. that's what will drive our actions and you can see our exclusive interview with the foreign secretary in full tomorrow at midday right here, gb news. now in other news today, detectives investigating the attempted murder of an officer in omagh in county tyrone have made a fifth arrest. detective chief inspector john caldwell remains in a critical condition in hospital after being shot outside a sports centre on wednesday . police in centre on wednesday. police in northern ireland say they are treating the incident as terrorist related incident with the new ira. their chief of inquiry . and the publishing inquiry. and the publishing house puffin uk has announced that roald classic collection

will still be printed using author's original descriptions and expressions . it follows and expressions. it follows criticism of the recent editing of his work to remove potentially offensive language . potentially offensive language. it's understood puffin uk continue with the publication of amended texts as as to continuing to release the original versions. continuing to release the original versions . camilla, the original versions. camilla, the queen consort , yesterday urged queen consort, yesterday urged authors to resist kerbs their freedom of expression . so for freedom of expression. so for me, i'm back at it now. he hoped it would be short , but he hoped it would be short, but following his invasion of ukraine, vladimir putin has blood on more than just hands. this atrocious and evil act has resulted in immeasurable

bloodshed on both sides and colossal infrastructural damage . ukraine itself, which will take decades to recover . who take decades to recover. who knows whether vladimir putin's ambitions lie beyond ukrainian territory , but with nato territory, but with nato countries nearby and the possibility of world war three and nuclear armageddon not impossible, putin must be thwarted . there's no point thwarted. there's no point guessing putin or hoping for the best. and there's absolutely no point in appeasement . we've been point in appeasement. we've been there before . it's in the there before. it's in the interests of ukrainian people and the free world that putin is defeated. however many bullets , defeated. however many bullets, however many tanks and many planes are needed . this is a war planes are needed. this is a war that all us need. ukraine win. and tonight , our thoughts are and tonight, our thoughts are with not just the brave soldiers, but the ordinary people of ukraine who have been through 12 months of hell and

many of whom have taken up arms against putin themselves . let us against putin themselves. let us pray that we're not here in 12 months time lamenting further bloodshed and an emboldened, reckless , even more dangerous, reckless, even more dangerous, vladimir putin. this war must be won by the west. coming together. and putin must be put in his place . more reaction to in his place. more reaction to the dreadful of the invasion . the dreadful of the invasion. ukraine in the papers at 1030. welcome mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion. coming up as the keir outlines his five point plan for power. i can give you 50 reasons why we don't want a government. the tories are terrible, but is starmer really the answer? in the big question , is it the government's job to feed schoolchildren? we'll debate that with tory legend , of debate that with tory legend, of course broadcaster, best selling author edwina currie and steffi

curran from punk against. sparks will fly. what do you think? should the government be responsible for feeding our kids ? also, tonight's one night earlier than usual, queen of us, showbiz and royal reporting, kinsey schofield . she'll give us kinsey schofield. she'll give us the verdict after the queen consort waded into the over the rewriting of roald dahl's books, a victory against wokeism. in march meets , i'll be meeting at march meets, i'll be meeting at lady victoria harvey , the royal lady victoria harvey, the royal insider, who has started tv shows, penned best selling and has been romantically linked a couple of high profile celebrities, including prince andrew, no less. she thinks, by the way, he's been done up like a royal kipper in to virginia. giuffre we'll discuss that live at a 1030 sharp. tomorrow's papers with full panel reaction . before that it might take a ten employees trialling a four day week of declared it huge success when of course they have when did the west give up the work ethic. who's going to pay the bills if workers aren't

willing to put a shift in the four day week might be convenience but it's a race to the bottom. that's my take attending an hour so much to get through but let's my wonderful panel now former editor of labour list peter edwards , labour list peter edwards, author and journalist laura dodsworth and former adviser to bofis dodsworth and former adviser to boris johnson, political commentator covering , asia. i commentator covering, asia. i want to hear from you throughout the show, mark at gbnews.uk best bit of the programme is when get in touch and this programme has golden rule. what is that rule ? golden rule. what is that rule? we don't do boring . not on my we don't do boring. not on my watch . i just won't have it. so watch. i just won't have it. so for the next 2 hours. big debates, big and always big opinions . debates, big and always big opinions. let's start with this . one we now in an upside down topsy turvy world where north is south, south is north. where man is a woman and a woman is a man where printing money cause

inflation plot spoiler. it does . and where a labour government is somehow the answer to britain's problems sexist has outlined his so—called point mission. i presume ably to rival rishi sunak's point plan. starmer is all to secure the highest growth in the g7 , build highest growth in the g7, build an nhs fit for the future, make britain's streets safe, break down the barriers to opportunity at every and make britain a clean energy superpower power . clean energy superpower power. sounds lovely, but how is keir starmer possibly the answer to our economic issues given fact that he will likely yield to pubuc that he will likely yield to public sector workers on strike and their inflation pay demands and their inflation pay demands and how he tackle eye—watering national debt fuelled by the lockdowns of which of course he was such a big fan by borrowing billions to splash the cash , the billions to splash the cash, the pubuc billions to splash the cash, the public sector, which of course he will be expected to do if he

reaches number 10? how is kingston the answer to our policing , given the fact that policing, given the fact that statistics covering the year to september 2022 show that in england and wales there was an average of 1.2? rob three offences per 1000 people in areas controlled by labour police , crime commissioners, police, crime commissioners, roughly double that of other areas which showed just 0.6% robbery offences per thousand people . do you think? keir people. do you think? keir starmer , the most woke starmer, the most woke politician in the country , politician in the country, someone who will seize any oppressive entity to signal his virtue, is going to crack down on woke policing in which cops spend more time turning off at people's houses for an offensive. facebook than addressing real crime, presumably starmer's plan for the nhs is to pump more billions this financial black which is getting more expensive and worse by the day will sir keir starmer

get rid of some of the three and a half thousand middle managers on six figure salaries currently employed by the health service? will get rid of the diversity officers for what is the most diverse employer in the world. good luck with that , he said. good luck with that, he said. he's going to break down barriers to opportunity at every stage. a pledge vega then the details of nadhim zahawi tax return and then the environment. now want to clean up the planet as much as anyone. but starmer wants clean out the nation's coffers with an expensive plan to get britain carbon neutral 2030 insulate heating millions of extraordinarily expensive rolling out an electric infrastructure and betting the house on green energy . laudable house on green energy. laudable though it may and i do believe in home insulation this radical push to go green as countries like china and america to pollute like fun is a crazy ,

pollute like fun is a crazy, costly experiment , particularly costly experiment, particularly given the fact that starmer is going to create a terrifying 19705 going to create a terrifying 1970s style, state owned energy company investing . our borrowed company investing. our borrowed billions in, flaky renewables. yikes we're not just living in an upside down topsy turvy world. the cervix free leader of the opposition is turvy himself , banging on about defending women's whilst taking the knee to so—called gender ideology which challenges the very of biological sex. remember, he can't even say what a woman is, even though he's to one. five years of keir starmer means five years of keir starmer means five years of keir starmer means five years of more woke hell and. starmer is pretty upside down and topsy turvy when it comes to grandpa himself . former labour grandpa himself. former labour leaderjeremy grandpa himself. former labour leader jeremy corbyn previously campaigning for him to prime minister on record as saying

that corbyn would be a great prime minister whilst evicting the same man who hasn't really said anything from what he said before before . jeremy corbyn as before before. jeremy corbyn as prime minister would have been a national security and economic disaster for the country. starmer campaign and for him to get the top job, he was an enabler , if you like, an enabler, if you like, an accomplice now starmer is campaigning for the same man to be chucked out of the party. it doesn't show great judgement, doesn't show great judgement, does it. starmer is toxic and upside down on national, which he wanted when he ran for the leadership, but which now he doesn't. don't get me wrong , the doesn't. don't get me wrong, the tories are disastrous . doesn't. don't get me wrong, the tories are disastrous. but doesn't. don't get me wrong, the tories are disastrous . but they tories are disastrous. but they finally got in my view somebody sensible in charge . it's not sensible in charge. it's not a great choice . but if it is great choice. but if it is a choice between and starmer , i'll choice between and starmer, i'll take sunak all day long with his plan to stop boats, which doesn't even make starmer's list

of five. if he achieves the halving of inflation, and if he tackles our horrific , i think tackles our horrific, i think sunak's five point plan is more tune with what the people of britain actually want. give me five. meanwhile starmer thinks his plan is the five. well, i beg to differ. starmer's so—called . five missions are all so—called. five missions are all mission impossible . now what's mission impossible. now what's your view? many would argue that starmer has transformed the labour party , that he has rid it labour party, that he has rid it of the ghost of antisemitism, that has stood up to the corbynites and the hard left, and that he is offering mainstream platform , which of mainstream platform, which of course one at tony blair, three election victories. storm as supporters, labour's supporters would argue that all the tories made a horlicks of the economy , made a horlicks of the economy, they made a horlicks of the pandemic and that it's time for change. what is your. market

gbnews.uk reacting to that? my fantastic of the wonderful former editor of labour list. none than mr. wonderful. the one and only peter edwards . we also and only peter edwards. we also have author and journalist laura dodsworth and former adviser bofis dodsworth and former adviser boris johnson and political commentator, cover arranger. i've got to start with the former editor labour list. the one and only peter edwards. peter, good have you back. storm has got five reasons why he wants to be prime. i've got 50 demonstrating. he must never be. well, i think that's nonsense . well, i think that's nonsense. really. and you're being so polite to me, i thought you might start with actually a lot of your monologue wasn't really accurate. look let's just take one. for example , one of the one. for example, one of the pledges is about public . so is pledges is about public. so is keir starmer woke or wet or soft or is he actually that wants to invest in public services to make our streets safer so for example, when keir starmer ran , example, when keir starmer ran, the crown prosecution service

and national organisation, which gives him leadership skills, the conviction rates for rape and sexual offences increased. so he's in a leadership role. he made good decisions and the outcome was better for the pubuc outcome was better for the public on nhs. outcome was better for the public on nhs . i think every public on nhs. i think every party gone into pretty much every election pledging to spend a bit more. but all know from now on it's reform, isn't it? because the demographic change means demand is rising and. and i'll give you one more. we talk about this for long. i'll give you one more on corbyn. pretty much every party member campaigned for their leader to be prime. that's completely unremarkable . but rather than unremarkable. but rather than being conflicted over that, over the man he called a magic , who the man he called a magic, who would not have made very good prime minister. keir storm has been quite tough on day one of his leadership 2019, 20, 20. he apologised to jewish community over antisemitism and corbyn was negligent in his failure . tackle negligent in his failure. tackle antisemitism. jeremy corbyn is suspended from the parliamentary

labour party. so i think keir starmer has been consistent. it was also been strong, but he's also and perhaps this is where we diverge most , mark, that we diverge most, mark, that i think he's in tune with public opinion. and while leadership aren't taking anything for granted . if you've got a 20 granted. if you've got a 20 point lead in opinion polls, that would imply that he is on the same page as great swathes of the public. lord goldsmith, keir starmer is responsible for more flip flops than an beat the gift shop . oh, absolutely. but gift shop. oh, absolutely. but i'm going to have pull you up on your flip flop first, mark. what's your pledge. never boring . and yet here we are talking about keir starmer. so i saw your story list night. i get to the words keir starmer and literally eyes glaze over. the man is so boring. i literally eyes glaze over. the man is so boring . i can't i man is so boring. i can't i can't even hear the words. he's speaking in terms of flip flopping. yes, a completely agree. i mean, after all, pledged to scrap tuition fees . pledged to scrap tuition fees. he's already reneging on that . he's already reneging on that. he's already reneging on that. he thought shamima begum should be repatriated until . he

he thought shamima begum should be repatriated until. he didn't. i'm actually bored of pledges now. you even the tory party is not immune . they pledge not to not immune. they pledge not to raise taxes and then they did. so these. these five pledges that politicians developing a habit of delivering us. well, they're disappointing. they're just disappointing and it's hard to even hear. keir starmer enunciate words. what is it about ? why is he so enunciate words. what is it about? why is he so. enunciate words. what is it about ? why is he so . magic, about? why is he so. magic, grandpa ? well, i know. i mean, grandpa? well, i know. i mean, i must say , corbyn was certainly must say, corbyn was certainly a more compelling personality. but let's keir starmer, corvair, ranger there's nothing boring about a 28 point lead in the polls . there is. and, you know polls. there is. and, you know quite rightly keir starmer is trying to take advantage of that but i'll challenge peter on this because i don't think keir starmer's lead it's one that the government has provided aided the opposition and it's now about what will the opposition to justify having the trust of

the electorate at the next election. and we're talking a lot about sir keir starmer and we should because actually what people want to know is what does he believe ? and peter, you're he believe? and peter, you're right, he's been terribly consistent in he has consistent at being in he has moved a lot. i just think as mark said, that i thought you said he was consistent. so said you're wrong. he's being consistent, but he's being consistent, but he's not being consistent. the consistent. and that's why the pubuc consistent. and that's why the public to understand what's public need to understand what's the keir starmer will be about and he duchy much like and he needs duchy much like other political parties. stop putting random pledges but putting out random pledges but start defining what he believes and actually what this labour party under his leadership believes. and we all knew whether we liked it or not. what jeremy corbyn believed in. and that's one reason i actually , that's one reason i actually, regardless of whether we agreed with his policies and his ideals, we respected him, respect his game . when people respect his game. when people are consistent in what they believe in. and that's what people are looking for from keir starmer wants be prime starmer if he wants be prime minister. so pledges are woefully talking about a decade of renewal. yes very good. but

it's his beliefs that we want to understand and then to see if the electorate will trust. you were talking about something about this decade . i mean, about this decade. i mean, that's absolutely shameless to be talking about a decade. what what he's trying to bluster that he's got the confidence that labour will win two terms. i mean a bit much to be promising a decade renewal when he's not evenin a decade renewal when he's not even in office yet . and one more even in office yet. and one more thing i've got to pick up what you mark, because you you said, mark, because you talked about biological sex. i the idea of voting for a leader who will want to find men and women is dangerous. mean, women is dangerous. i mean, anybody can't say the anybody who can't say what the difference between man and, difference between a man and, a woman mad, dangerous woman is mad, bad or dangerous i will not vote for a party that won't actually explain what biological is and stand up for women's sex based . the labour women's sex based. the labour party has a woman problem. peter a touch outnumbered. i will give you the right to reply. do you think that issue of trans rights is going to be a problem for keir starmer in certain parts of

the country? next year? i think it's going to be a challenge for all politicians and i'm view is i want as i'm sure you do. i want trans people to be treated with dignity while whoever is in government navigates way through the legislative hurdles that i suspect are coming over the next or so by, say much as i think equality is important to you. and i am the number one and the number two and the number three issue at the general section are not going to be trans issues. and in 20 years of membership the labour so far it's the labour party so far it's come up on the doorstep, maybe that will change where i take issue is if kofi in issue perhaps is if kofi in a phrase random, pledges again, let me just give you one example because it don't talk about it or not. a labour conference. keir starmer a great british energy . well, we're in an energy energy. well, we're in an energy crisis. we're an inflation crisis. we're an inflation crisis and our supplies are being cut off and affected and increased in price by the horrific events in ukraine. so what is random and what is

sensible about committing to set up a great british energy company with domestically sourced energy to get the prices down for everyone? but peter that that would not have solved the problem that the country has faced from outcome of ukraine, from the issues of supplies, having energy firm that is then state run and state control would not have solved the problems that we have faced. and that's you know, the that's clear. so, you know, the fallacy taking state and fallacy of taking state and government and that solve everything , we just know that is everything, we just know that is about security of supply, not ownership. they go and many, many would argue we need that security supply. i think you'll agree. brilliant agree. i've got a brilliant panel don't agree panel tonight. they don't agree which point the which the whole point about the show then are show get your emails then are you ready labour government do you ready labour government do you want labour government? you want a labour government? you starmer's you impressed by keir starmer's five to change for five point mission to change for the better. coming up in the news agenda this hour we ever solve the channel migrant crisis. my meets guest is lady victoria harvey. prince andrew's ex, no less. but next in the big question, is it the government's

to feed schoolchildren ? we'll to feed schoolchildren? we'll debate that with steffi coren from punk against poverty and the no nonsense former cabinet minister edwina currie. sparks will fly. see .

in three. fm in three. a big reaction to big opinion. let's have a look at what you're saying. keir starmer has announced his five point mission for power . i announced his five point mission for power. i can think of 50 reasons why he mustn't become our prime minister this from richard. mark starmer is the perfect answer to bankrupting the public purse , relegating the public purse, relegating biological women the corridors of history , creating a world of of history, creating a world of woke. we will recover from and us to the fold of europe by stealth. starmer will walk in whatever flip flops he needs to in order to get into power. richard, thank you for that very well—crafted email. says hi,

mark. i'm a tory supporter and i agree much of what you say, but your expressed views are so biased you criticise nhs executive on six figure salaries. but under his were they appointed ? nuff said phil. they appointed? nuff said phil. well you are right. the tories have been charge during the woke takeover of our country an overreaction to the covid pandemic, which saw the failed experiment of lockdowns only my opinion. i know they were trying to save lives, believe it failed so , phil, bravo, you're dead so, phil, bravo, you're dead right . and thank you for putting right. and thank you for putting me straight on that one. more of your emails to come. market gbnews.uk. but first, let's do one of these . it's like magic . one of these. it's like magic. it's time for the big question in which we tackle a major news story of the day. london mayor sadiq khan has announced that children the capital primary children in the capital primary schools will receive free school meals for the next academic year

at a cost of over £130 million. many see this an important step to helping in a cost of living crisis and nourishing our youngsters so they can concentrate in the classroom , concentrate in the classroom, grow, develop and be healthy. but is it the government's job to feed our schoolchildren ? does to feed our schoolchildren? does this move set a dangerous precedent about just how much state can do in our lives , state can do in our lives, particularly given the state of the country's financial system to debate this? i am delighted . to debate this? i am delighted. welcome. former conservative minister, bestselling author and broadcaster edwina currie and steffi curran, a tireless campaign who runs the punk against poverty organisation steffi . well, welcome to the steffi. well, welcome to the show. i believe your first appearance on lockdown and tonight great to have you . do tonight great to have you. do you think that although keir starmer they go get them all confused sadiq khan is right to make school meals free for all primary school kids in the

capital? absolutely i think it is a fantastic and it needs to be done across the country. absolutely why is it the job, the job of the government to schoolchildren? we have a welfare state, of course. many of the kids in those schools come from middle class homes who can afford those meals . i think can afford those meals. i think we need to stop at whether it's the job of the government or not. it's about investing the future of the country. the kids are at school, at primary school today are going to be the people who are driving buses in supermarkets, nurses and other people who are going to be taking care of us when older. so we need to be investing in them to give them the best. so it's been proven that school meals help with that. so, you know , help with that. so, you know, and looking after kids the job of the government. so why can't come under that as well. edwina well, i think there are a number of issues with that bearing mind, of course, that it's already very nearly 2 million

children in england that are getting free school meals in most cases because their families are on universal credit or jobseeker's allowance or their refugee . so we're already their refugee. so we're already looking after quite a lot and it's nearly £1,000,000,000. what sadiq khan has done will push it over the billions. so it's quite a lot money. personally, i would prefer if we are going be investing in the next generation to be investing in their education and that will make the biggest difference of all. i'm fully in favour of free school meals for those who need it. but somewhere along the line, i mean this been happening the whole of my lifetime . it's nothing new. my lifetime. it's nothing new. but somewhere along the line, we kind of parents, out of all of their. and the role of parents i think i think should be enhanced. i it should be supported. i think it should encouraged. i mean, effectively you think about it, mark, in many of the country we've made fathers redundant. they don't

seem to be needed. and as a result, we have so many fathers abandoned , their families at the abandoned, their families at the first opportunity, which is a great tragedy and has a rare damaging effect on, the children. so let's our priorities. right. let's educate the children first. let's support the families. let's schools . let's make sure that schools. let's make sure that those children and where money is really a big issue not the well—off , that they do get their well—off, that they do get their free school meals, maybe that into the holidays as well . but into the holidays as well. but if the state takes over the role of parents we shouldn't be too surprised if those kids have an awful lot more problems and troubles in future. stephanie curran for feeding kids is education and there is so much evidence that shows that as well as lower to be safe free school meals are linked improved academic performance. they reduce absenteeism ism and it's unked reduce absenteeism ism and it's linked to improved lifetime productivity get in the kids fed

so that they can focus on learning is so important there . learning is so important there. cut—off point for free school meals at the moment the country i s £7,400. i want to own and is £7,400. i want to own and thatis is £7,400. i want to own and that is not getting free school meals is so low and there were so many families and positivity. we need to be supporting these kids so they do a future so that our country has a future. isn't this the agree with you on mum it coming. i would agree with you entirely and i think the level is too low . in northern level is too low. in northern ireland, for example, it's 14,000, a huge difference. i agree with you that is now too low. it was set some time ago and i think that be looked at very, very carefully . fully very, very carefully. fully supportive of families who are in need getting some help this way and of course the schools also get a pupil premium which enables them to do more for those families and children . but those families and children. but the idea that somehow get rid of childhood obesity by giving every child a free school . what

every child a free school. what do you think the parents are going to do with spare money they've then got after school? they're just going to them they're just going to buy them more and chocolates . and more sweets and chocolates. and chris, nonsense. chris, that's a nonsense. absolutely that it's no absolutely not that it's no spare money. the problem. spare money. that's the problem. there spare money. parents there is no spare money. parents are to without food to are having to go without food to feed children. don't feed their children. i don't know this money's know why you think this money's coming doesn't. exist coming from. it doesn't. exist none the get free school none of the get free school money. those families those families where they struggling they get free school meals and you and i agree that that level should be slightly higher . what should be slightly higher. what about mean, we're talking about i mean, we're talking about i mean, we're talking about around 29. it's about a quarter of all children right through the united and the right through the united and the right through england and in the poorest part , such as in poorest part, such as in newcastle in many areas , which newcastle in many areas, which are about nearly a third. but what about the other two thirds? are we really saying we should tax them in order to give money back them terms of free back to them in terms of free food? i really don't see that that supports the i'm showing you support the role of parent does not mention them at all.

they are really really important and we should be doing everything can support them everything can to support them to keep them informed so they know what is healthy, what is good, what is strong for their children to and enable them to work partnership with work in partnership with the schools the welfare schools to promote the welfare education of the next generation. steph, you have received an email? stephanie i've received sorry to interrupt your second moment, but i've received an email. stephanie from who says mark from steve who says? mark they're school meals . they're not free school meals. they're not free school meals. the taxpayer pays the bill and of course the country is , isn't of course the country is, isn't it? we've got of course the country is, isn't it? stephanie, we've go t £2 it? stephanie, we've got £2 trillion worth of national debt. we've got a budget deficit which means more out than comes in every month . we just can't every month. we just can't afford this . where does it stop? afford this. where does it stop? are going to feed kids off to are we going to feed kids off to school before school? is this not excuse ? bad parents to not an excuse? bad parents to think that's another thing i don't have to do feed kids this an investment in economic growth . it has been proven that through having the free school meals kids will do better. this how we can improve is what the

kids coming out of school at the end of it with in terms of education, their employment chances are if we want to invest in the country, we need to do it at the very beginning, at primary schools. and one of the biggest things you can do, and it's a simple thing and it's very it's very cost very cheap, it's very cost effective the kids effective is feed the kids parents to them. so parents afford to feed them. so do them briefly. do that for them briefly. edwina, there's a policy here. there's a policy here. i don't i haven't seen the research. you're not quoting sources. but the fallacy here is if you take children who are not being fed their parents and you feed them at of course, that at school, of course, that performance will improve . but if performance will improve. but if you take children who are otherwise being looked otherwise being well looked after by parents got enough money and who put the children welfare first, then i cannot see that actually feeding them a lower quality meal in. school is going to improve anything except it's going to end up taking more money out taxpayers pocket and. it's diminishing the role of parents it's also meaning you're not making any to education

support inform parents and care on what actually good healthy food. okay you made a big mistake , stephanie. karan, let mistake, stephanie. karan, let me put it on record that your work as a campaigner as part of punk poverty is truly amazing and thank you for contributing to this debate . fascinating to this debate. fascinating conversation stephanie that from punk against poverty and former conservative government minister, best selling author and broadcast star edwina currie. my panel they're divided. what's your view? is the government's job to feed schoolchild and market gbnews.uk lots to come . next up, will we lots to come. next up, will we have a solve the channel migrant 7 have a solve the channel migrant ? don't go anywhere .

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feed them if you can't afford kids don't have them . reacting kids don't have them. reacting to the big stories the day my all star panel peter edwards , all star panel peter edwards, editor of labour list law adults with author and journalist and covert ranger, political commentator , former adviser to commentator, former adviser to bofis commentator, former adviser to boris johnson . remember him now boris johnson. remember him now 7 boris johnson. remember him now ? actually, a former colleague of boris's tory mp kit malthouse has forward his three point plan to solve the issue of migrants crossing channel to enter the country. illegal malthouse thinks small boats crisis can be solved by, agreeing with the french that all migrants be returned to france immediately by boats and in return we will take a genuine refugee from inside france at a stroke, removing the to cross. sounds on papen removing the to cross. sounds on paper, but it really it wouldn't pass muster in reality and it's solving the channel migrant crisis even possible . will we crisis even possible. will we ever get to bottom of this covid arranger? no doubt. you've reflected on this issue for a

long long time. what's your view? having kids. long long time. what's your view? having kids . another view? having kids. another colleague of mine from city hall days as the policing minister was policing. he was deputy mayor policing. were mayor for policing. we were there did good job. he there and he did good job. he cut crime. did he did he come we actually we came in at spike actually we came in at a spike in knife crime in 2000. a in knife crime in 2000. we did a lot of work with boris and kit. getting but the getting life turned out, but the good thing about kit is actually a fine politician, as he's shown in of that is does in years of that is he does think box now, as you say , think the box now, as you say, this actually a real this idea of actually a real refugee being brought in rather than , you know, the ones that than, you know, the ones that are being paying through the nose to these maybe can dampen down that traffic business because it's the business model that need to break, not the refugees that need the support. so that that's his logic around it. but as say it does on paper, it. but as say it does on paper, it sounds but we know these things are ugly crude about how this situation is growing . i'm this situation is growing. i'm not sure it'd be a simple in one out case and that we'd easily this model that these traffickers have. i think there

to be more done and really we've got throttle the serpent we've really got to cut off the supply because if we just change the answer to say , well, we won't do answer to say, well, we won't do it this way. we'll do it that way. we don't actually solve problem an endless stream of problem of an endless stream of refugees coming through through that throttle. the serpent . are that throttle. the serpent. are you the one that writes those one liners for boris johnson? not at the moment. i mean, throttle the serpent that is that's vintage boris johnson, isn't it? but come from the words of his former adviser, very humble and self facing adviser covid ranger , what do adviser covid ranger, what do you about this, laura? you think about this, laura? will we ever the migrant crisis? i'm i think this is going to become that the serpent become pressing that the serpent will have to be throttled . the will have to be throttled. the thing is, you know, the riot and knowsley has shown that people have absolutely got migrant fatigue and there are only so many hotel space is i mean, something i thought was really interesting about the way the whole thing covered was a lot of the mainstream media, you know, the mainstream media, you know, the liberal media never talked about what lying behind the riot

. that doesn't mean i'm excusing disorder and violence. i'm not. but if you read, for instance, the bbc coverage, there's not one mention of migrant propositioning an underage girl , you know, not one mention of it. and unfortunate play if this is just left , it. and unfortunate play if this is just left, it will you can't bury you can't suppress it. there will be disorder that will there will be too much dissent that no no amount of sanitising in the media will be able to disguise pizza . well i'm not disguise pizza. well i'm not sure has been sanitised the media it's discussed regularly on gb news it's on the front page of many newspapers and it's discussed in house of commons. i don't know on the beeb, not on sky news, not. i wouldn't say that they were discussing much, but i've read a of stories on bbc online about, but i've read a of stories on bbc online about , the migrant bbc online about, the migrant crisis, think is crisis, and i think it is a crisis, and i think it is a crisis and you know, in a spirit of kind of not being part political, i agree with kofi we've got the trade we've got to kill the trade alliance behind it all because

although every life lost a sea is a tragedy, it often people are coming from horrific circumstances. behind that, there's an economic motivation by which probably relatively small number of pretty wicked people are getting rich by sending people out in boats . but sending people out in boats. but coming back to britain and you went to knowsley with it and then followed it, but there was a riot and within the last few weeks was very unpleasant and people the law, the arrests. laura what did you mean by migrant fatigue? i that migrant fatigue? i think that although the media doesn't cover it too much, a of ordinary people feel that they're all obviously too many too many migrants coming over on the channel to and people put up in hotels and i think there's a general feeling that while people are economically suffering and endure bring a cost of living crisis , they feel cost of living crisis, they feel resentment at seeing people in hotels. okay, one more question, please and this goes to the heart and i don't know your

politics. certainly the conservative government cloud this issue deliberately when you say too many people , do you mean say too many people, do you mean illegal migrants , illegal illegal migrants, illegal migrants or asylum seekers ? i'm migrants or asylum seekers? i'm not sure. i can't speak for. everyone thinks no, i'm just interested . your view? well, the interested. your view? well, the currently doesn't know the difference between . those difference between. those groups. it does and it can place it deliberately to whip up anti migrant sentiment. how we define it. but what about those communities people impacted by hundreds of migrants hundreds of hundreds of migrants accommodated in hotels ? we've accommodated in hotels? we've heard stories from cornwall elsewhere of youngsters, you know, young women being home by albanians who the way shouldn't be in this country illegally, given the fact that albania is a peaceful country, it's affecting people and they're angry. it's a serious issue. i cut my teeth as a reporter in carlisle in cumbria, and i spent as a reporter in west yorkshire . so reporter in west yorkshire. so this is something that affects the united kingdom and let's not about individual groups, but

let's understand main point which is whenever there's migration that can lead to community tensions either if there is not law and order or if there's pressure on public services, the classic ones being school places and trying to get gp appointment. now that that appues gp appointment. now that that applies just having a number applies to just having a number of people within public services set up for regardless of whether they're legal migrants illegal migrants or asylum seekers because everyone gets what if i needed a doctor's appointment so wherever there's a population growth to growth government needs to invest in services. but i do feel lower your your hint you can say you're not really spelling out what you by migrant fatigue . i've already said what fatigue. i've already said what i mean by it i can't tell you i can't speak the whole nation i sense a feeling that there is migrant fatigue and i'm not sure that people do split out by different group. i think one of the marks of a civilised nation, for instance, is taking an asylum . but obviously there has asylum. but obviously there has to be country fatigued about asylum seekers and i was never speaking for myself and i doubt i don't , but i community

i don't, but i community communities are i believe in fly by you know often small towns in which there's a full hotel of whether it's asylum seekers or illegal migrants , but it's illegal migrants, but it's people from elsewhere who are impacting their quality of life and in some cases their safety i think where we're coming to here is i would say it's not in my view, it's not migrant fatigue. what we're seeing is a problem that government is not that the government is not deaung that the government is not dealing with acceptance of dealing with the acceptance of the asylum seekers and migrants that want bring here. so that we want to bring here. so whether be afghan whether it be the afghan refugees, ukrainian refugees, whether ukrainian refugees, whether ukrainian refugees, be asylum refugees, whether it be asylum seekers, yes. a civilised country, a country that is wealthy like welcome wealthy, would like to welcome them. our government and them. but if our government and our can't them and our processes can't them and bnng our processes can't them and bring them through to join society rather than getting stuck hotels and impacting local in a way that feels negative and putting pressure on public , then putting pressure on public, then people quite rightly get concerned about what's happening well. okay, well, look, we'll return to that conversation when we have the papers at 1030. couple of stories of that nature as part of the papers , full

as part of the papers, full panel reaction might it ten is coming up in just a few minutes time. when did the west give up the work ethic my mop means guest live in the studio lady victoria hervey prince andrew's ex so we're told. but next the queen of us at showbiz royal and political reporting day early. live from hollywood california. and another howler , president and another howler, president biden, kinsey schofield .

next well, it's time now for us news where the queen us showbiz, royal and political reporting kinsey schofield high kinsey . hi kinsey schofield high kinsey. hi mark excited to see you on a friday. great to have you a day early so excited about your trip to london in may for the coronation . look forward to coronation. look forward to welcoming you in the studio and rolling out the red carpet . rolling out the red carpet. apologies in advance. kinsey the

clock's against us. it's been a busy hour. lots to cover tonight, but let's talk about some important issues in relation to the royal family and the queen consort camilla in the news in relation to roald dahl. what's happening happening . what's happening happening. that's right. i mean, i think that this is pretty rare instance where she spoke out against literary censorship , against literary censorship, told authors she wants them to true to their calling . and she true to their calling. and she thinks that this type of limits authors imaginations and she's completely against that. she loves books. mark so there was actually swift turnaround after all this, you know , controversy all this, you know, controversy over roald dahl and the publishers actually . well, we publishers actually. well, we will continue to publish the original versions in addition to some of these, bizarrely censored versions where they've the word fat with enormous, because that's less offensive . because that's less offensive. yes, this subtle hint comes would argue from the playboy of

the late, great queen elizabeth. second lot late last in the late monarchs. she she never got involved in politics but she occasionally dropped hints . i occasionally dropped hints. i feel that's what camilla has done. feel that's what camilla has done . and she is so done. and she is so sophisticated and she's but, you know, she knows to how the game. this was a natural comment you know she's got a great sense of humour and she's so personable and. i you know i don't think she meant to cause a stir, but it certainly did. and i think the majority of people agree with her in this instance. devon now i don't like to kick a man when he's down, but tell me about your president joe biden. yes, you do . mark, before this yes, you do. mark, before this interview, i tried to find a fall count. it doesn't exist because . there are too many, but because. there are too many, but you know, president biden on, the way home from poland , trip the way home from poland, trip and down the stairs, air one typical tuesday over here but there is literally not a full count because it happens so

often. does no one talk about the president's health and his cognition ? we really have been cognition? we really have been as of late, you know, especially with the idea of , maybe we with the idea of, maybe we should perhaps have some sort of test people have to perform after a certain to determine whether their mentally and physically fit to be. that's a conversation that's been happening over here. but it's pretty i'm sorry embarrassed. that's that's not not my president is what they said dunng president is what they said during the last one. let's talk about the last president donald trump , who is concerned about trump, who is concerned about what's happened in ohio. tell me more. yes. so trump claims his presence actually spurred obama administration devote more time and resources to this ohio town that's had this environmental meltdown and know i. i would agree with him. mark i remember sitting there watching all of the news out that trump was

heading to ohio to deliver water, to be there with the people, to figure out if there was anything he could. while i'm watching joe biden basically campaign all across the globe hanging out with i mean, honestly, take care of us first. i know it's horrible to say, but take care of us first. and in typical form , the mainstream typical form, the mainstream media here actually trying to blame donald trump for the accidental in ohio. do you have that clip ? i understand we don't that clip? i understand we don't have it to hand, but it seems like an extraordinary claim to make . oh, absolutely . yes. it's make. oh, absolutely. yes. it's the view, which is on abc , one the view, which is on abc, one of our huge networks here. and there's actual discussion where joe i one of the hosts says , you joe i one of the hosts says, you know, i want the people of ohio to know that donald trump, you voted for donald trump, as if to say that that was karma for voting for donald trump. the audience audibly gasps and then sunny , one of the other hosts

sunny, one of the other hosts says, i blame donald for this. we've got the clip here it is. take it away. someone with deep ties to the chemical industry in charge of the epa's chemical office. that's who you voted in that district. donald who reduces all safety ? he did . and reduces all safety? he did. and that's voters. something on ground that probably resonates and they need to look past the photo ops. those people , and photo ops. those people, and say, who's doing the job here? forget about the photo ops showing up as a big showing up. i think, i think this is donald trump's fault . trump is, is the trump's fault. trump is, is the american equivalent brexit to blame for kinsey . i mean, i feel blame for kinsey. i mean, i feel i honestly sympathise with this guy sometimes because i really do think it was kind him to go there to be with people, to make them feel like someone was listening. and then of course, then here comes the biden administration. got administration. he's got a point. crazy. listen kinsey, we'll see you a week tomorrow . we'll see you a week tomorrow. we had long ago the brilliant queen of us on fiscal reporting

kinsey schofield. next up, my take at ten and my mom meets a star is victoria harvey. see you

in ten. it's 10:00 in ten. it's10:00 and this is markdown and tonight's in my take at ten in just a moment employees trialling a four day week have declared a huge success. of course they have. when did west give up the work ethic ? who's give up the work ethic? who's going to pay the bills if aren't willing to put a shift? the four day week might be convenience , day week might be convenience, but it's a race to the bottom . but it's a race to the bottom. my mart meets guest in the studio is lady victoria harvey, the royal insider, who has starred in reality tv shows penned best selling books and has been roma pointedly linked to more than very big name,

including none other than prince andrew. all those are true. we'll be asking her shortly . we'll be asking her shortly. plus, tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030. lots to get through, but my at ten is next and i'm pulling my punches. why is no one want to work anymore. first, the headlines with the hard polly middlehurst. first, the headlines with the hard polly middlehurst . mark. hard polly middlehurst. mark. thank and good evening to you. our top story tonight, president vladimir zelensky has said tonight if the allies keep supporting ukraine, they will win the war. this after the uk marked one year since russia first invaded his country . we first invaded his country. we held a minute's silence today. we and as people across the uk

paused to remember those who lost their lives in ukraine outside street, the prime minister reflected on the country's losses. with ukraine's impasse . to the uk , britain impasse. to the uk, britain today imposed new sanctions on russia including an export ban on equipment the country on the battlefield . and in ukrainian of battlefield. and in ukrainian of kyiv president vladimir attended a ceremony with families of soldiers killed in the conflict. he described the last 12 months as a year of pain, sorrow but also a and unity and the prime minister could soon announce new post—brexit deal for northern ireland. after holding what was said to be a positive call with the eu commissioner rishi is likely to meet ursula der leyen to discuss the northern ireland protocol this weekend. he's also expected to reveal a new deal by monday. number says he's had

constructive talks . supermarkets constructive talks. supermarkets and businesses about the issues he's trying fix. in an exclusive interview with gb news james cleverly told us how the government is approaching negotiations. we remain focussed on the outcome rather than the method and the outcome is to protect northern ireland's place in the kingdom to make sure that people and businesses in the political representatives of these people in northern ireland are comfortable with the resolution whilst also making sure that we protect the uk internal market. those are very much our motivations . that's much our motivations. that's what will drive our actions. and you can watch john exclusive interview with the foreign secretary in full tomorrow at midday right here, gb news now, in other news , detectives in other news, detectives investigating the attempted murder of an officer in omagh in county tyrone have made a fifth arrest. detective inspector john arrest. detective inspectorjohn caldwell remains in a critical condition after being shot outside a sports centre on

wednesday. police in northern ireland say they're treating the incident as terrorist related the new i.r.a. their chief of inquiry and lastly the publishing house puffin uk has announced that roald dahl's collection will still be printed using the author's original descriptions and expression lines. it follows criticism of the recent editing of his work to remove potentially offensive language. it's understood the puffin uk will continue with the pubuc puffin uk will continue with the public of amended texts as well as continuing to release the original versions. as continuing to release the original versions . camilla, the original versions. camilla, the queen consort yesterday , urged queen consort yesterday, urged authors to resist kerbs on freedom of their expression . freedom of their expression. that's all for me for now. i'm back in and out. my thanks to polly middlehurst

who returns in an hour's time. this mark dolan tonight a busy hour to come live in the studio. my mark mates guest lady victoria the royal insider who has starred in reality tv shows, penned best selling books and has been romantically linked to none other than prince andrew. what does she think about the virginia giuffre case? plus, tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030 with full panel reaction . 1030 with full panel reaction. lots to get through. but first, my take it . ten lots to get through. but first, my take it. ten a bunch of workers at offices around the world trying out a four day working week have declared it's a huge success of course have of the 61 companies that entered a special six month trial 56 have extended four day week , extended four day week, including 18 who have made it permanent . joe royle, the

permanent. joe royle, the director . the four day week director. the four day week campaign called the trial a major breakthrough moment, adding across wide variety of sectors , wellbeing has improved sectors, wellbeing has improved dramatically for staff and business. productivity has been maintained or improve and in nearly every . case when did the nearly every. case when did the west decide to down tools and give up work? do you think companies china, india and korea who are fast the economic superpowers our age are also trying a four day working week so that they can spend the other three days chillaxing watching garbage on netflix and consuming garbage on netflix and consuming garbage courtesy of deliveroo. do me favour. they're working nine days a week . do you nine days a week. do you remember the days when it paid work? now people are seeking to be paid to , not work. after the be paid to, not work. after the indulgent. and in my view , indulgent. and in my view, failed experiments have

lockdowns in which the government paid perfectly healthy people to stay at home. it seems that work has become an extra in people's lives, except that with a national debt of over that with a national debt of ove r £2 trillion, a deficit in over £2 trillion, a deficit in which more money now goes out than comes in. the idea of not working is not an option at all. we need economic to pay down debt and to pay for the public services. we all value so highly . and how is that achieved? well by everyone putting a shift , its by everyone putting a shift, its deeply disturbed that two and a half million people in this country of working age , not country of working age, not economically active , two and a economically active, two and a half million people are all of those people physically unable to work? have they all mental health issues ? you tell me . but health issues? you tell me. but someone is going to have to pay for the country. and at this rate, it just looks like it, will be you and me. and what a pair of mugs. we are . now,

pair of mugs. we are. now, private companies are entitled to employ their staff for four days a week. no problem . if days a week. no problem. if they've found productivity has gone up, then who am i to object 7 gone up, then who am i to object ? but it won't be long before the public start demanding a four day week as well, even though with the difficulties of getting a passport or a driving licence or the long waits that you have on the phone to speak to any government departments, it would seem gone down to a four day week already , or in four day week already, or in some cases what feels a zero day week. cabinet minister tyrese koffi got in hot water this week. hot coffee if you like by saying those on food banks should to get a better paid or work more hours . should to get a better paid or work more hours. perhaps clumsily worded and my heart goes out to any families who are struggling at the moment and millions are. but what was technically wrong about what she it seems her egregious crime was to state matter of fact and say something is true. i think that

the four day week is road to ruin . if this country was ruin. if this country was swimming in cash with a massive trade surplus , with a minuscule trade surplus, with a minuscule national debt and huge annual growth , happy days, knock growth, happy days, knock yourself out. but that's not where we are . we are in an where we are. we are in an economic emergency and we need shoulders to the wheel. we need sleeves rolled up. we need hard graft . meanwhile, a new cohort graft. meanwhile, a new cohort of entitled employees won't work more than four days out of the week. what an insult to those working seven days a week to make ends meet. a day week for? get it . get it. your reaction, mark @gbnews a .uk. have you gone to a four day week? is it working for you? let

me know. it's now for mark mates in which i speak to the biggest names in the world of politics, showbiz at sport and beyond . showbiz at sport and beyond. tonight's model socialite aristocrat and former it's girl . we'll have to find out what .we'll have to find out what that means. lady victoria hervey the child of the sixth marquess of bristol . notwithstanding her of bristol. notwithstanding her gilded background , she went on gilded background, she went on to make a name for herself in the world of modelling working multiple fashion brands christian dior. she's done her fair share of tv, including channel five's the farm. itv's love island and channel four's winter sports show the jump. an appearance on which we have in common. she wrote a bestselling book called lady in waiting a semi or biographical tome for young , centring semi or biographical tome for young, centring on semi or biographical tome for young , centring on life semi or biographical tome for young, centring on life in a girl's boarding school. and she's been romantically linked to or two celebrities including prince andrew no less . it's been prince andrew no less. it's been quite the life and quite the

story. and i'm delighted to say former it girl and current it girl and future it girl, lady victoria hervey joins me now. hi. hello how are you? i'm very well. so good to have you in the studio. thank you. what is in it girl? do you even know? you know it's the girl at the moment, you know. but it's so when they go past that girl or whatever it is, it's bit insulting as. i mean , i thought it was like. but mean, i thought it was like. but i was , i wasn't that it was the i was, i wasn't that it was the it girl of that time and it hasn't never really been anyone that replaced . so. was fun . that replaced. so. was fun. yeah. you look when i when i first start it's being in the spotlight in my early twenties . spotlight in my early twenties. it was a different time as well as far as like paparazzi world because there was no social media. now it's not as because people have their instagrams and things, but back then, yeah, it was it was it was a little

crazy, you know, you were followed home had the moped guys going down the alleyways maybe waiting for you outside your doon waiting for you outside your door. an afterparty door. you have an afterparty the next evening next day and the evening standard or your friends would be in it. but what you wouldn't do is go into the party and have people with mobile phones taking pictures you indoors. so pictures of you indoors. so there some aspects that i there were some aspects that i really wild days there was no camera phones . yeah, that was camera phones. yeah, that was sort of like it was just starting. so very lucky. i mean, in i just i was working at a radio station when the tragic news that diana had died in a in a paris car crash chased by the red. you obviously perhaps on the same scale, but you got a flavour of that yourself. can it be scary? oh, yeah, yeah , of be scary? oh, yeah, yeah, of course it can be scary. yeah because, you know, i was hacked . of course, like many other people by newspapers and you start thinking, well, how do they know this stuff? like you're only telling one person. and it's like in the newspaper. so you do sort of think i'm like

going crazy. and then you find out, oh, you were being hacked so imagining it. did so you weren't imagining it. did that affect any of your relationships? because the issue with that you with being hacked is that you think, a minute, i've think, well, wait a minute, i've said go to next said i'm going to go to next week. i told yeah, no, i did. week. i told my yeah, no, i did. suddenly i don't trust bob except that it wasn't bob that they exactly. they found out. exactly. they hold and could get your hold phone and could get your voicemail remotely. that voicemail remotely. is that right. yeah so it. i mean, right. yeah so did it. i mean, did always trust did get did you always trust did you get paranoid? complete me got paranoid? oh, complete me got paranoid. definitely ruined paranoid. it definitely ruined some relationships, you know , some relationships, you know, i'd go on a date with someone and suddenly it's already and then suddenly it's already in newspapers. remember, and then suddenly it's already in as|ewspapers. remember, and then suddenly it's already in as an spapers. remember, and then suddenly it's already in as an example remember, and then suddenly it's already in as an example ,remember, and then suddenly it's already in as an example , ferdinand, like, as an example, ferdinand, it just before, like one it was just before, like one really knew him. he was west really knew him. he was at west ham and we went and date and sony suddenly knew it. it was like, wait, hold on. like this was secret thing. like how was a secret thing. like how they know, you know. so he probably thought i said something and i thought he said something, but actually like that situation it was that kind of situation it was like, well, actually we were being hacked. yeah. so it's many kind things. yeah. and what

about , you know, right now it's about, you know, right now it's like you just learnt to it how to be more private. i suppose you know you don't go out to all the places that there might you know if you want to be seen you can go to the places you want to be seen. do you think fame is more dangerous now than it was? um how would it be more dangerous ? no less privacy . i dangerous? no less privacy. i think now we're bit more in control of it because can we have social media? so write something just to say something about me. i can then go my instagram and actually go, well, actually, the real story is this . before 20 years ago, we didn't have an outlet like that . you have an outlet like that. you know, it was just like, oh, if you knew somebody at newspaper would say this, but now we can put it correctly, like straight away. so you had the right to reply. i was just thinking of the of caroline flack tv the likes of caroline flack tv presenter life because just the pressure of social media attention seems to be i mean, i'm sure there were other factors too, but kind of helped.

yeah, i not twitter any more. yeah, i not on twitter any more. i twitter. it's just evil it's like the dungeons of the dark . like the dungeons of the dark. this is it's very scary and i love that i'm not on it anymore . okay, well, look, you're on mars, so we love that you're on that very much the girl, lady victoria heavy with us. i think you'll agree. a fascinating conversation we just started and it's going to continue. we're going to talk about being a lady in aristocratic background, then financial challenges as well . no financial challenges as well. no silver spoon here. also, we'll talk about prince andrew. what's he done up by? i like it like a royal kipper. bye by his accusers will also about reality tv fame money you name it lady harvey is my mob meets guest more after this .

welcome back to mark dolan tonight and a meet special in the company of socialite aristocrat reality star entrepreneur and model and its go no less. by the i'm apparently i'm an it boy so and if you believe that you'll believe anything it's lady victoria harvey hello alastair kept the camera on you when i'm talking and i don't him. talking and i don't blame him. he's of taste director. he's a man of taste director. alastair you are lady victoria harvey . yeah. that must have its harvey. yeah. that must have its perks . yeah, i'm. of course it perks. yeah, i'm. of course it has its perks . you know when i has its perks. you know when i was younger i really didn't. not like having the title and i hate it for as long i could at school. didn't tell anyone . and school. didn't tell anyone. and then my grandmother wrote me at boarding school with a lady on. and i have to explain to you, go out was it , and i have to explain to you, go out was it, but it is, you out it was it, but it is, you know, it definitely its bonuses good tables at restaurants you know also if you're having a bit of an argument with your other half do you ever kind of drop the fact that you're related

into the conversation? no. so he won't empty dishwasher. he won't speak to me. i he'll speak to me. and i think he'll have a dishwasher. and victoria speak to me. and i think he'll have because|sher. and victoria speak to me. and i think he'll have because iher. and victoria speak to me. and i think he'll have because i can and victoria speak to me. and i think he'll have because i can tell victoria speak to me. and i think he'll have because i can tell you oria speak to me. and i think he'll have because i can tell you if a have because i can tell you if i lord dolan i would use that against mrs. dolan related you . against mrs. dolan related you. yeah. she'd never see the end of it. i use it in that kind of way . you don't use it, but it's just, i don't know, maybe going through an airport helps. going through an airport helps. going through security . yeah. and in through security. yeah. and in america, quite a big america, it must be quite a big deal america, it must be quite a big deal. they. they i remember deal. no, they. they i remember when i started going through the la and they're la security and they're literally like, oh lady victoria's lady diana, you know, did she think i'm living at the palace . but the thing it's easy palace. but the thing it's easy to prejudge you and to assume that somehow were born to riches which is not the case that no i mean i had to you know i had to work. you know, i, i was at boarding school in england , then boarding school in england, then i had a gap year which, you know, it was a very trendy thing to do was having a deferred entry the time which probably shouldn't have done it because had way too much fun in my gap year to but i going to be

year to uni but i going to be studying french and history of art and a four year course . yeah art and a four year course. yeah and you skipped st andrew's and bristol. i got into all university. wanted to. yeah all the ones i wanted go to and then i was travelling around malaysia and thailand a couple of months, studied in florence history of art for about six months. queen secretary , of course. and then secretary, of course. and then i started working in, met someone he was like 15 years older than me and i. something got thrown into the social life london scene and the rest is history. yeah are you a rebel ? oh yeah are you a rebel? oh i suppose i don't like abiding to. the rules always. so may be a rebel at heart. the rules always. so may be a rebel at heart . and you've left rebel at heart. and you've left america , been in california for america, been in california for about 19 years. yeah. were almost two decades actually around 24. i moved out and i just got kind of homesick really the last couple of years and i

just it was time to move back california a lot . i mean, look, california a lot. i mean, look, the world changed, but california really changed. and it just wasn't the place i wanted to be living . yeah, i wanted to be living. yeah, i mean, we just touched on it briefly during the break. a lot of politics is exactly america is complete . polarised or is complete. polarised or republican in california, you're evil , right? republican in california, you're evil, right? you're the republican in california, you're evil , right? you're the devil. evil, right? you're the devil. you're really evil understand . you're really evil understand. you're really evil understand. you have to want joe biden . the you have to want joe biden. the guy doesn't even know what his own name. so you know, i started being quite vocal about things i suppose around covid. i sort of speaking out about riots that we had and you know, i sort of reposting candace owens and it didn't go to who is who is , i didn't go to who is who is, i suppose a conservative political commentator. that doesn't make you right wing. i support because there are many america on the left, including the comedian bill maher compete

lifelong democrat supporter and lefty , who's challenged a lot of lefty, who's challenged a lot of the kind political correctness and woke stuff now being called right wing, even though he's been lot of people been elected, a lot of people converted . i really follow converted. i never really follow politics closely, to be honest. like until 2020, i you know, i mean, i voted for i wanted obama. can you imagine like he created ice so i really had no idea anything until a few years . but if you objected to of the woke stuff i suppose the trans ideal woke stuff i suppose the trans ideal. right. what's kind of got your back. yeah. that's the trans thing is sick like that to me is you know the fact that they can chemically castrate a child so young in california is i just think it's horrible you know the parent goes to jail if they suddenly don't agree with child transitioning so you've now got all these young kids and i don't know going to imagine what's going to happen to them the next ten years. it's a really mean it's like an experiment because the drug

companies make. so of each child right that transitions . so right that transitions. so i mean you obviously probably watched the docu mentioned what's a woman not wolves. yeah yeah. very very powerful and of course that's before you even get to women's rights, what is a woman? i mean, you know, all of them could say a woman is got over his and female only, which used to be sacred, which i no longer a double rapist in in a culture. no, i don't agree with any of the massive trans agenda thatis any of the massive trans agenda that is going on. did you date prince andrew . i don't want to prince andrew. i don't want to go into it. you because i do speak a lot about i you know we just went out a few times like literally for the fact that i have a friend and we've been in a i have a friend and we've been in ai been have a friend and we've been in a i been overseas super vocal everything going on because you know, this woman who accused him he's due a he's never even met her and you know has he been up like a right royal keeper ? has

like a right royal keeper? has he been he has some really advice. i think basically he had lawyers that were criminal lawyers that were criminal lawyers for a civil so it's a terrible advice . and you know terrible advice. and you know this girl is just lied whole way through everything . i'm not even through everything. i'm not even going to say believe she is . she going to say believe she is. she is. what about that photo ? the is. what about that photo? the photo of him with his arms round foot. the photo is nothing real about that photo . and i've about that photo. and i've spoken on tv's for the last year now this probably you know even glance at this 50 things wrong with that photo but there's so many things wrong with that photo and i've actually seen you see i've seen pictures that space and when you actually measure the furniture that's that's on the right hand side that's on the right hand side that picture is it's really high . tell me about the andrew that you know he a good guy has he been mischaracterise . yeah well

been mischaracterise. yeah well obviously like the you know the interview was very badly advised as they had a representative buckingham palace apparently in the interview . so it's almost the interview. so it's almost like they they wanted to set him up as how it felt like you almost feel like the firm the royal family well i think there's been a lot, you know , there's been a lot, you know, charles, the older brother has always been a bit jealous of him he had a very successful military career military career for 20 years. you know it's sort of like, well, he is the spare, isn't he in this one. so you think to think charles is potentially jealous of andrew heard that he's always been of him it's kind of like as soon him so it's kind of like as soon as the queen is gone, daggers are out . know the royal lodge are out. know the royal lodge chucked of there or had it said , well, they've got they've got time . i mean, look, charles has time. i mean, look, charles has inherited how much money and like what? he can't now help his

brother out. basically, like prince andrew was made to settle . right. he didn't have a choice. and then as soon as he was made to do it, they then just has been everything else away, like little bit by bit. what's next for you? because you're so young , you're back in you're so young, you're back in britain, you look fabulous . britain, you look fabulous. thank you. so what would you like do next? oh oh, we will see. you know, i'm just kind of getting feeling i'm i'm feeling it. i love gb news. you this is what, like one of my favourite channel. really great. and so yeah, i'd like to do more tv. what is it about without blowing smoke up our own derrieres ? what smoke up our own derrieres? what is it about the channel that you like? well, we can. we can what we think and we're not going get cancelled . so. well, listen, cancelled. so. well, listen, we're not censored on this channel. you're know i'm not going to get susanna reid , like, going to get susanna reid, like, going to get susanna reid, like, going crazy at me and go oh , you going crazy at me and go oh, you can't say that. of course, because i caught i told this girl a condom. the gmb presenter

or a con artist, you know, virginia giuffre yeah, she's a con artist . virginia giuffre yeah, she's a con artist. i'll say it a million times. okay. so we'll look thrilled to have you in the studio. good to see to come and see us soon. it's never boring when . you hear this? thank you. when. you hear this? thank you. is a motto. we don't do boring. and it certainly does. yeah. and when you were studio lady, when you were the studio lady, i get for you, herbie. a get it for you, herbie. as a matter of record, it's important to that. prince andrew to say that. prince andrew settled to the settled out of court in to the allegations made by virginia giuffre. very clear that giuffre. she very clear that a crime was committed that she's a victim and that everything she said is true. so she would challenge what victoria has said. but this programme is all about opinions . so what's yours? about opinions. so what's yours? market gbnews.uk. we've got the papers .

it's now for the papers . hot off

it's now for the papers. hot off the press. we have the daily telegraph and they lead with the following sunak to secure new brexit deal this weekend , rishi brexit deal this weekend, rishi sunakis brexit deal this weekend, rishi sunak is opening close a brexit agreement this weekend after downing street claimed he had gained last minute concessions from brussels. number ten said the government had achieved a string of positive breakthroughs . discussions over the past week to address problems faced by businesses as a result of the post—brexit rules governing northern ireland. the prime minister spoke to ursula von der leyen, the president the leyen, the president of the european commission , tonight european commission, tonight with further talks to seal the deal with further talks to seal the deal. the telegraph understands that arrangements are in place for the uk eu to agree the deal as early as sunday with a legal text presented to parliament on monday . that's a fast moving monday. that's a fast moving story a good news story. fantastic mr. dahl endures.

roald dahl's books will be reissued their uncensored form after a backlash forced the publisher into a retreat. puffin it had listened to the challenging and uncomfortable debate i'm sure they listened are they nice and they are going to think again. words relating weight, height, mental health, gender and skin colour were removed from the original classics and passages were added that were not written by dahl. the backlash criticism from rishi sunak the prime minister and an intervention by the queen consort the telegraph was saying it was an events intervention by queen. i'm not sure that was physically possible. queen consort of course. we can consort of the course. we can call her the queen now, can't we say that because this has crept in you know camilla got very in and you know camilla got very hard pressed two decades, but plenty her plenty papers are calling her the goodness. i've the queen. oh, my goodness. i've only there go. only just noticed. there you go. so reprieve for dahl in the so a reprieve for dahl in the telegraph . next up, the times telegraph. next up, the times brexit deal within days. tell you what number 10 i've been on

the phone haven't natively straight with good news . is it straight with good news. is it good news? i'll be asking korva arranger advisor boris arranger former advisor boris johnson daily express camilla forces u—turn in dull cuts row also praises mark a year pain, sorrow and unity ukraine one year on the guardian pm set seal post—brexit deal in big political gamble this is becoming close to a solid story that can stand up now. all the papers have got it. the daily mirror roared. you carry it well p0p mirror roared. you carry it well pop legend in thank you. visit to nhs workers and tories in a stew over turnips to raise coffees advice to eat turnips in place of unavailable fresh produce yesterday sparked a run on the root veg or turnip the weekend starmer on course for landslide victory labour currently heading tony blair's style win at the next election , style win at the next election, according to a brand new poll for the ai and opposition holds a 17 point lead isn't expected

to beat the tories on most major policy areas except ukraine voters . now they prefer labour, voters. now they prefer labour, they now prefer labour on crime and brexit as well as housing, nhs and of living labour support on brexit i think is a significant moment the independents victory for camilla . she forces publisher to lift it on roald dahl's classic books for children and invincible g7 to hit russia with . new to hit russia with. new sanctions as sunak leads nation in a minute's silence to marking hour of war in ukraine. daily star . save hour of war in ukraine. daily star. save our salads. not such cunning plan, milady. government is to raise coffee's cunning plan for to eat turnips instead of tomatoes in tatters after a stockpile is stripped of them from supreme shelves. yes really baldrick and those are your front pages . we've got the mail front pages. we've got the mail on way, but let's get reaction to what we've heard just now from my all star panel. former

editor of labour, journalist and broadcaster peter edwards . we broadcaster peter edwards. we also have bestselling author and presenter laura dodsworth and political commentator , ex political commentator, ex adviser to boris johnson, colvera to cover lots of papers with news of a brexit, a deal with news of a brexit, a deal with brussels the daily telegraph, who, let's be honest , the ear of number 10 sunak to secure a new brexit deal. this well, i think, as you said , well, i think, as you said, briefing has been done by number 10. so undoubtedly there is something in the water here, but there has been a lot of effort put in here. we do know that this has on for two years. we do know that we're an era actually where everything that seems be going wrong in the country. somebody can say it's down to brexit which i don't. that's necessarily the case. but the hesitation, the to the people of northern ireland ireland and the idea of having a hard border on the island of ireland is just

untenable. and i think this will be a huge success. shot in the arm for as prime minister if he can get this done. it also dare i say it in terms boris's legacy in this conversation around bringing this through and saying that this get resolved. although it has taken to leave number 10 for it to happen . but if it for it to happen. but if it hasn't that happened to those things but both those would have beenin things but both those would have been in challenging politically boris's view on getting brexit done rishi's ability to actually brexit and be the brexiteer prime minister that can move the country forward. so this is a huge political moment for the time. before i get to the rest of the panel, you're so connected to that to the world of boris johnson the tory party . do you think the erg and or the dup will swallow this deal ? the dup will swallow this deal? and if not, does that matter ? i and if not, does that matter? i think they will otherwise it wouldn't have been briefed so heavily. and they been going this is the pm going their head.

no because we haven't had the dissenting voices coming. coming out saying they're not in alignment with us. we know the usual suspects, know who are usual suspects, we know who are they would have been talking already problematic any already about problematic any problems they have had problems they would have had with so on basis. but with this deal so on basis. but i do think rishi is not the kind of prime minister who would go over people's heads. he wants , over people's heads. he wants, get this done in his way , the get this done in his way, the right way that he gets everybody lined up and he is that sort of more consolidating cautious won't overstepped the mark. prime minister that's his style. so this does have all the hallmarks of deal that has been agreed million dollar question from a that knows him well will this deal get the seal of approval from boris johnson because he has making trouble for the pm this week. i don't think boris has been making trouble i think boris just trying to ensure that there is the integrity around the deal can you say that with a straight face. yeah i said i spoke to

bofis face. yeah i said i spoke to boris couple of weeks ago and i know exactly where he is viewing some of these things and obviously he doesn't want to be seen as a meddling prime minister who's just recently beaten. that's all going very well, is it? no. but what both in distress have also mentioned obviously ukraine obviously their views on ukraine and other things. and various other things. and i think way that's think that in some way that's helped prime minister helped the prime minister because gives the prime because it gives the prime minister from minister support from senior figures for prime ministers lining up say yes , because this lining up say yes, because this is prime minister's agenda . is the prime minister's agenda. he's saying anything but he's not saying anything but isn't going against what the prime rishi sunak is trying to achieve. he is a brexiteer . prime rishi sunak is trying to achieve. he is a brexiteer. he does want to get this deal done and boris's helping him show that laura. dare we dream that the issue of could finally be put bed it looks like we put to bed it looks like we might be able to now. i can't add a fraction of what of what we've just heard, but i don't know johnson intimately. well, i'm no, i'm afraid, although i've made him the subject of chapter two of my last book, i have never met him. but i will say that you don't need to worry

because if brexit does get done, we can always blame everything because if brexit does get done, we climate.1ys blame everything because if brexit does get done, we climate.1ys lyeah, everything because if brexit does get done, we climate. ays lyeah, that's hing because if brexit does get done, we climate.1ys lyeah, that's the| on climate. oh, yeah, that's the next thing, isn't it. yeah. laura, i talk you about laura, can i talk you about roald fantastic. mr. dahl roald dahl? fantastic. mr. dahl endures is a i mean, look, endures. this is a i mean, look, it's an intervention from most right minded people. salman rushdie, only author to have won the booker prize, called this outrageous sense of ship. this is puffin the publishers of roald dahl, who changed certain words in his books to make them less offensive , rewrote parts it less offensive, rewrote parts it your reaction to the original story and your reaction to the utter . yeah i story and your reaction to the utter. yeah i think it's i think it's absolutely great that kamila spoke up i don't think she can claim all the credit for the u—turn because as you say every right minded commentator, journalist and author has spoken out about this. i thought in the wake apart from guardian and wake apart from the guardian and a few white ones, i think this is absolutely right decision. i mean, there were hundreds changes made to roald dahl's collection of works fiction collection of works of fiction children. know, you children. and, you know, you remove the word fat from page, but that doesn't actually stop there being fat people in the

world what these sensitivity readers it apart from proving themselves be the twits was try to reimagine the world in the way they want it to be and why our brains by rewriting books. so you think this is manipulation of course it's manipulation of course it's manipulation because they want to world way they want to the world the way they want it . i think it was to the it to. i think it was to the readers of the book, as well as offensive to authors. i'll just quickly explain both. i mean, in of children they like dark from ring of roses to the hunger games darkness runs through rumpelstiltskin is of course because he steals children they're all all these stories are scary you know the sensitivity readers get hold of the grimm's tales they're in for a big shock because children like this kind of thing , you like this kind of thing, you know, the darkness helps them to master their fears. actually you can't you can't sanitise the human brain, even if you sanitise the page. but the other thing it did, which really, you know, put the chills up my spine as an author is it took the authorship from dahl authorship away from roald dahl and somewhere in the

and put it somewhere in the future can just be future as though it can just be handed moral arbiter handed from moral arbiter tomorrow arbiter. i think it's incredibly disrespectful to rewrite his words and he'd be turning in his grave for sure . turning in his grave for sure. peter, about the census a losing this one d detector sort of a change in the narrative now a bit of an anti—woke movement . bit of an anti—woke movement. and i say that not necessarily as a tribal left versus right because it was, of course, tony blair in an interview with the guardian a year, who said that in order to get into ten, keir starmer should get rid of the woke stuff . i'm not sure. keir woke stuff. i'm not sure. keir starmer has a woke stuff, but even a of a southern liberal leftie europhile like me would say there's no place for censorship . editing books of censorship. editing books of ripping up books. censorship. editing books of ripping up books . after a much ripping up books. after a much loved author has died is a nonsense . and every literary nonsense. and every literary work is a product of his own time. and he shouldn't edit roald dahl . you shouldn't edit

roald dahl. you shouldn't edit readers, allow . i'm sure you readers, allow. i'm sure you have. there's a lot in of words we'd halfway through use today and i'm a change guy there's a lot there's a lot of scenes the bible that are not about peace lives that are about conflicts but we don't rewrite , you know, but we don't rewrite, you know, a literary work, an artistic work stands on its own merits . work stands on its own merits. you just need context . tories in you just need context. tories in a stew overturn covid the daily mirror satirist coffee has had a bit of a week to forget, hasn't she always attendance for the books ? if i'm a bridge between books? if i'm a bridge between stories. thank you. here all evening so yes she has she's she's one of those ministers who seems to not have a way words or is she just honest. well honesty but you do to get the message across to people that. i think that that and the problem i actually had with this and others sort of labour of sorry conservative public

parliamentarians wanting to tell people what they should be eating now that's instinct to really know where the conservative bit of honest politics a bit like lee anderson you says oh you know you're wrong hanging this maybe by hanging but lee anderson said if you're on over 30 grand a year and living from food banks, you need to look at your budgeting. you becomes public enemy number one. all trees saying is if you can't of, you know, can't get hold of, you know, tomatoes, try root vegetables, which, are in season which, by the way, are in season at moment and very good at the moment and very good value. so my co—op i go i bought a swede for 50 ppi today. i felt very proud myself. well, very proud of myself. well, i think is one of these think this is one of these stories, this festival, a stories, this festival, not a foreign national it's very funny because make because it's great to make baldrick comparisons and all the rest it. it actually rest of it. but it actually highlights quite interesting undercurrents. i have to disagree conservatives disagree that the conservatives don't we because don't people what we because they do and in fact they're they all do and in fact they're bringing new fitness up bringing out some new fitness up which you to eat your which encourages you to eat your five a day which by the way there is no evidence for what so ever won't surprise you

especially fruit which is full of sugar . totally. now know of sugar. totally. now you know i really buy all this i don't really buy all this fruit vegetable stuff. we've fruit and vegetable stuff. we've talked quite low talked our website is quite low carb . if you're going carb people. but if you're going to vegetables , should to eat vegetables, you should eat are season eat vegetables. are season that's environmentally friendly . it makes sense. it's good for everybody . so the idea of having everybody. so the idea of having tomatoes year round just you know it's nice it's nice to have choice but is it really the end of the world beating seasonal vegetables own country? vegetables in your own country? we naturally grow tomatoes we don't naturally grow tomatoes as in these parts the winter. as in in these parts the winter. there you go . should we turn to there you go. should we turn to turnips? let me know. market gbnews.uk. we've got more from the papers. next include in tomorrow's mail newspaper with quite a headline. see shortly .

reacting to the big stories of the day, the former editor of labour list, peter edwards ,

labour list, peter edwards, great to see peter again as well as a very old friend of mine, laura dodsworth, best author, a state of fear out. now it's all about the psychology, the covid measures , a bestseller, a must measures, a bestseller, a must read . and her latest has just read. and her latest has just been sent to. the publishers, let's hope it hasn't got anywhere near the sensitivity readers heads will readers their heads will explode. they'll be in counselling and cover ranger . counselling and cover ranger. political commentator and former adviser to boris johnson . you adviser to boris johnson. you spoke to boris two weeks ago. he must be loving life at the moment he is. he's very happy he's making a few quid. moment he is. he's very happy he's making a few quid . he did he's making a few quid. he did mention that . so he paid for mention that. so he paid for lunch. mention that. so he paid for lunch . but he's very happy. he's lunch. but he's very happy. he's very busy, you know , bhatia very busy, you know, bhatia always finds a way keep himself busy, but he i think you always, as a politician , had a lot of as a politician, had a lot of friends who've been politicians and, then step down to being frontline politicians . there's frontline politicians. there's that moment where you think what, i going to do with all what, am i going to do with all this think that isn't a this time? i think that isn't a

challenge that a man like boris johnson because can write books he talents and he he has plenty of talents and he has of things that wants has lots of things that he wants to is broadcasting to do speech is broadcasting name i'm sorry to say this name it i'm sorry to say this but investigation to but one more investigation to face and all the other face as well and all the other things . well, he's actually very things. well, he's actually very busy . his constituency also busy. his constituency also looking at what's happening in london a lot around the expansion of ulez in london and challenging that . so yes, he is challenging that. so yes, he is very busy personally, professionally do you think he fancies another tilt at number 10 at that isn't something that i could probably comment about one day? i would never say never when it comes to a politician of boris's capabilities . yeah, boris's capabilities. yeah, there may i dive in on this one briefly, which is only a few months ago he photographed in an office in millbank tower in a leadership race . the telephone. leadership race. the telephone. what does that tell us? do i think that you talking about when , you know, he had the when, you know, he had the numbers and people are asking him to come back into this castle? yeah and he was

photographed on a telephone , i photographed on a telephone, i think around 100, 102 tory mp backers . that is if i was about backers. that is if i was about if you talk to be ambitious, who is desperate to come back even though there's an investigation pending in the house of commons over whether he's out porkies or not. what i would say is and i've said this many times boris johnson is a politician, even in the house of commons and is still a very popular politician amongst . his still a very popular politician amongst. his party and still a very popular politician amongst . his party and amongst amongst. his party and amongst the membership , the conservative the membership, the conservative party. and there are set maybe even out there in the public, so popular politicians are hard to come by and sometimes popularity leads to them feeling they can do things, come back negative . do things, come back negative. approval ratings. when he left office and nearly every politician has them when they leave it doesn't mean that they can't back. well, look at debate. do you think he'll give his safe and only safety? do you think ? he'll give up his own think? he'll give up his own safe seat and, leapfrog into a safer seat at the next election 7 safer seat at the next election ? i think i think he's very much

looking to fighting uxbridge. yeah, yeah, yeah. interesting stuff . there go. let's stuff. well, there you go. let's now have at final front page now have at our final front page and the daily mail and they and it the daily mail and they lead with the following don't let killer husband free a grieving mother tonight begged the justice secretary to keep her daughter's killer behind bars. airline pilot robert battered his estranged wife , battered his estranged wife, simpson, to death with a within earshot of their young children. he's due for automatic release this year after just 13 years of a 26 year sentence for manslaughter. also, king and william to refuse harry's apology demand. this is a coronation . exclusive courtesy coronation. exclusive courtesy of the daily mail generation gap. harry charles are in stalemate . let's get reaction stalemate. let's get reaction from pizza . so how would you from pizza. so how would you handle this if you were king charles, would you apologise to harry and meghan? well, we don't know the details, but what i certainly wouldn't do is apologise in the public. and i

think, you know, prince harry's had a very difficult life here. william mother a young william lost her mother a young age heroes , i age that both war heroes, i think a general rule in, any think as a general rule in, any family, prince pauper , if you think as a general rule in, any fanon , prince pauper , if you think as a general rule in, any fanon tv'ince pauper , if you think as a general rule in, any fanon tv and pauper , if you think as a general rule in, any fanon tv and say)auper , if you think as a general rule in, any fanon tv and say yourr , if you think as a general rule in, any fanon tv and say your dad's'ou go on tv and say your dad's a rotter , it's not very nice, is rotter, it's not very nice, is it not? laura, i know you're not a psychologist, but there's a lot of psychology in in your book, this is complicated. the dynamics between these family members got egos, you've got royal titles , you've got royal titles, you've got history. where do you start with this one. well this isn't going to be the answer you want. but i start with trying not to comment on it at all because i don't really like commenting on the soap opera that is now the royal family. i that airing your dirty washing in public is not a good thing to do like peterjust and apology made and accepted should be something that happened in private interesting good good good answer i can't argue with that now listen this how can i get out of his snooty sisters

houday get out of his snooty sisters holiday that was the headline in colleen nolan's agony aunt column this week . it got us to column this week. it got us to thinking how many horrendous holidays pathetic parties and grim get togethers have we endured? just placate a beloved or not so beloved family ? are we or not so beloved family? are we a nation of people pleasers? laura oh, of course we are. it's it's a british characteristic . it's a british characteristic. people pleasing runs through a slight words in rock. but i tell what you can practise you can practise. i used to be such a people pleaser, and i think it's a particular type of social conditioning that women have as well . controversial, i know, but well. controversial, i know, but i women are definitely brought to me the workplace, isn't it. yeah, think we're just brought yeah, i think we're just brought up to be more conciliatory, but it's something noticed about it's something i noticed about myself, when you get myself, you know, when you get to middle age and to a ripe old middle age and just practised being bit just practised being little bit more i tell you more assertive. and i tell you what, you can still feel uncomfortable, say uncomfortable, but i don't say yes people anymore. right. yes to people anymore. right. what do you say? do you say maybe like a holding pattern? oh, no . got me. you've read me

oh, no. got me. you've read me right ? sometimes i say maybe, right? sometimes i say maybe, but sometimes i'm just honest. i'm just honest . honesty is the i'm just honest. honesty is the best policy . what do you think best policy. what do you think is the word in your vocabulary? peter yes, it is. i think about what i think i don't think where people places particularly, but i think there's something else quite similar which unites us all. black or white, rich or poon all. black or white, rich or poor. no self, english or scottish is standing in queues . scottish is standing in queues. and apologising i think when you get your own tail you stepped on. yeah i think that's very british. apologise how awkward is and one or two others. but tea standing in queues and saying sorry all the time helps make us british tea right cool there have you gone to things that you didn't to in your life because you're too polite . i because you're too polite. i unfortunately think i come across as polite, but i've not i just can't be to be doing things that i want to do. and i've

always been a bit impatient in that. and so sometimes that may come across as hard or i don't mean to apologise. everyone knew that i may have felt like you seem so charming and avuncular, but actually, there's a hard side i've managed create that veneen side i've managed create that veneer, it's not veneer, but actually it's not hard. i'm just hard. it's honest. it's i'm just being honest myself much being honest to myself as much as else . you're okay with as anyone else. you're okay with saying no? and know , to be saying no? and i know, to be honest, remember my lovely honest, i remember my lovely wife is german and the germans are direct. they're not are quite direct. they're not unkind , rude, but they're unkind, rude, but they're direct, interpreted as direct, which is interpreted as those other attributes. and those two other attributes. and we were looking for a flat to rent when we first met and we walked around and was saying to every landlord , what a lovely every landlord, what a lovely place you've got such carpet loft. the roof will be in touch. my wife would . i do not like my wife would. i do not like your apartment. we will be renting it. but that's because you welcome darling, i love you welcome tv. darling, i love it. and she had them in tears. it's good to see a landlord in tears. can i say it's been a joy to have all three of you tonight. call the arranger lord elsworth, peter redwood. great debate. do back soon. want

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