good afternoon. it 2 pm. that means it's time for a real person. me emily carver on no tv on digital radio . now we have on digital radio. now we have got a jam packed show coming your way this afternoon in just a few moments, we'll be going to head, head to on whether head, head to head on whether brexit trusted in rishi brexit can be trusted in rishi sunak's hands. that's with tory mp and staunch brexiteer john mp and staunch brexiteerjohn redwood richard hewison redwood and richard hewison leader eu party. leader of the rejoin eu party. this comes, of course with reports a deal on northern ireland could be secured as soon as tomorrow . then a new poll for as tomorrow. then a new poll for the mail has found that nearly half of brits do want the sussexes to invited to the coronation , but more want meghan coronation, but more want meghan to miss and want her to attend . to miss and want her to attend. prince harry reportedly wants an apology from the king first. should he get one.7 and apology from the king first. should he get one? and would you even care if didn't turn up and get ready for a punchy political panel? this afternoon, we'll be debating whether. doctors should

be allowed to strike as well as publisher puffins, including decision to censor and rewrite dahps decision to censor and rewrite dahl's classic, classic . i'll be dahl's classic, classic. i'll be giving my own views on that in just a tick. so stay tuned for that now. lots more to come. but first, let's get the news with bethany elsey . emily, thank you. bethany elsey. emily, thank you. good afternoon . it's 2:10. i'm good afternoon. it's 2:10. i'm bethany elsey your top stories from the gb newsroom. the prime minister is facing criticism after proposing a meeting between charles and the european commission ahead of an expected deal on the northern ireland protocol. ursula von der leyen was due to continue talks with rishi sunak in person before meeting the king, but her trip was cancelled . the shadow was cancelled. the shadow northern ireland secretary says it would have had constitution implications. ireland's minister leo varadkar says huge progress has been made in the talks , but has been made in the talks, but there's still a gap to be closed . foreign secretary james cleverly spoke exclusively to gb

news. we remain focussed on outcome rather the method and the outcome to protect northern ireland's place in the united kingdom. to make sure that people and businesses in the polity or representatives of these people in northern ireland are comfortable with the resolution , whilst also making resolution, whilst also making sure that we protect the uk internal market. those are very much our motivations. what will drive our actions ? ukraine's drive our actions? ukraine's president says , he plans to meet president says, he plans to meet china's xi jinping after beijing set out a peace plan for the war between ukraine and russia. volodymyr zelenskyy say when the meeting might happen told a news conference in kyiv that it would be beneficial for both and for security around the world. but us president joe biden told abc news beijing's proposals only benefit moscow. president said he wants to believe that china is not siding with probably do motty you should . it's correct motty you should. it's correct to think that if there are

already thoughts that somehow correspond to respect for international law territorial integrity and some security issues, i we should use this and work with china on this matter. why i want to believe that china be on the side of a fair peace. which means on our side. this is very important to me. i really want to believe that china will supply weapons to russia . the supply weapons to russia. the number of people who've been killed in the earthquakes that hit turkey and syria has surpassed 50,000. the united estimates the destruction has left 1.5 million people homeless with 500,000 new homes needed . with 500,000 new homes needed. president erdogan has pledged rebuild homes within the year , rebuild homes within the year, but experts are warning authorities put safety before speed to ensure new buildings can withstand further tremors . a can withstand further tremors. a 3.7 magnitude earthquake was felt in south wales last . the felt in south wales last. the british geological says it hit

britain more near crickhowell just before midnight with the tremor felt as far away as cardiff. residents on media have described being up to their whole house shaking for a short time . detectives investigating time. detectives investigating the attempted murder of an officer in omagh say the incident is being treated as terror related. detective chief inspector john coulter remains in a critical condition , being in a critical condition, being shot outside a sports centre on wednesday . crowds have gathered wednesday. crowds have gathered in their 100 rise in county tyrone and in solidarity with him. police in northern ireland have now arrested suspects and say the new ira group is their main line of inquiry. the defence secretary , he's defence secretary, he's confident the troubled . defence secretary, he's confident the troubled . £5.5 confident the troubled. £5.5 billion programme to build new army tanks has turned a corner. the project to build nearly 600 ajax fighting vehicles has faced criticism over severe delays and

technical issues after nearly 13 years. it's to deploy a single tank. ben wallace says soldiers now being trained in how to use them and hopes they'll be active in the military within the next two years. when i over as secretary of defence three and a half years ago, this was a troubled programme. it started its life in march 2010 and i was determined that we were either going to fix this or have to find. and so we put a lot of effort into it worked with general dynamics, the prime contractor and with the army and i think i think after years of trials that, it completed at christmas time , it started to christmas time, it started to turn a corner and thousands of displaced ukrainians are being the chance to go to the eurovision song contest in may . eurovision song contest in may. around 3000 tickets will be made available . ukrainians who are available. ukrainians who are currently living in the country. liverpool has been chosen to host on behalf of ukraine, won last year's competition . the last year's competition. the government has announced last year's competition. the government has announce d £10 government has announced £10 million in funding to make sure

the event ukrainian culture . the event ukrainian culture. europe to date on gb news we'll bnng europe to date on gb news we'll bring you more news as it happens now though, it's back to emily emily . emily emily. so it turns that roald dahl is safe, at least for now. it was revealed earlier this week that the editors at puffin, the publisher, had taken it upon themselves to update books for modern sensibilities . in other modern sensibilities. in other words, they thought their duty to decide what every child in this country may or even should find offensive and take a censorship pen to the author's entire collection . in the new entire collection. in the new and very much not improved version, the colourful language has entertained and inspired the of generations of children has been replaced by the anodyne, the banal and frankly , the the banal and frankly, the downright clunky . funnily

downright clunky. funnily enough, the whole thing has backfired. public and even a royal intervention inspired a compromise . puffin will continue compromise. puffin will continue to publish the original, and they will also roll the tamer version. they want to let their hard work go to waste. it's likely that some schools and libraries will take this an opportunity to demonstrate woke credentials by replacing old with the new. but if is anything to go by sales of the full collection are only going in one direction and that's up. one recent customer said i am buying the older editions before they have been censored by the cultural . another wrote superb cultural. another wrote superb set got unadulterated for my grandchildren . they know fat is grandchildren. they know fat is fat . another warned i suggest fat. another warned i suggest getting these timeless classic before they're forever changed by the ministry of truth . so it by the ministry of truth. so it turns out quite a of us find it far more offensive that a bunch of faceless censored tivity readers would think it their duty to tip out some of the most

colourful passages in some the best children's books ever written than the original passages were. to make it clear censorship is far more offensive than the use of the word fat or ugly could ever be. so for now, the full, unadulterated and cruelty of roald dahl is safe. yes, children will still be able to read about the enormous fat augustus gloop . the terrible augustus gloop. the terrible tractors will remain in the fabulous mr. fox and the cloud men in james in the peach will continue to be cloud men and not cloud people as suggested . and cloud people as suggested. and if you are so inclined, you can buy the team of version two. so yes, roald dahl's classics remain intact now, but just to be safe , i strongly recommend be safe, i strongly recommend parents, grandparents , teachers parents, grandparents, teachers and librarians to continue to buy the original. i've heard sales have never been better . we sales have never been better. we will be debating that later on

in the show. but here's what what's coming up this hour. i'll discuss whether brexit is safe . discuss whether brexit is safe. rishi sunak's hands after it was reported that the pm is set to secure a deal with the uk. this i'll talk with tory mp john redwood and leader of the rejoin eu party richard hewison. then i'll be joined by a royal commentator and, international correspondent to speak . a new correspondent to speak. a new poll for mailonline , which found poll for mailonline, which found that nearly half of brits , the that nearly half of brits, the sussexes being to the king's coronation . but more wanted coronation. but more wanted meghan to miss it than attend . i meghan to miss it than attend. i will end the hour with my political panel who will debate whether doctors should go on strike following news that . a&e strike following news that. a&e could close during three day could close during a three day strike planned by junior doctors next month and the editing of roald dahl's works of course to remote potentially to remove potentially offensive content. i'll be joined by director of the new culture forum, peter whittall and, political commentator joe phillips to whittall and, political commentatorjoe phillips to get stuck into that one. that's what we've got coming up this next.

as always, i would love to know your thoughts. today's topics, please do tweet me at gb news or you can email me on gb views at gb news uk. you can also watch us online on youtube. so no excuses. us online on youtube. so no excuses . stay tuned . so the excuses. stay tuned. so the question of the day brexit safe with rishi. for weeks, the papers have been saying a new deal on the northern protocol is coming . according to reports it coming. according to reports it is imminent . number ten is is imminent. number ten is claimed. the prime minister won a series of last minute concessions from the eu after with the commission president ursula von der leyen . those ursula von der leyen. those those talks with her, a conservative mp, have been to. told sure they're at the house of commons on monday two and the dup leader jeffrey donaldson has dup leaderjeffrey donaldson has warned that the deal must be right rather than rushed and must fulfil seven tests including no border , the irish including no border, the irish sea and no diversion of trade. then you've reports that rishi

sunak's plan to axe eu laws may be thwarted by labour and the liberal democrats who are pushing for parliament to have a say on every single one. so will rishi be able to please everyone and is brexit safe under his leadership ship. to debate this i am joined by the conservative mp for wokingham , john redwood mp for wokingham, john redwood and of the rejoin eu party here the studio richard hewison jon, can you please thank you for joining us firstly, but please can you shed a bit of light? is this deal? i have no proof that it is. i don't know who's got the story. we're all on some special request . be the story. we're all on some special request. be in parliament on monday. special request. be in parliament on monday . we have parliament on monday. we have the usual three nine set for monday. for the normal business. but it doesn't say anything about. but it doesn't say anything about . the publication of a text about. the publication of a text or the approval of . a new deal. or the approval of. a new deal. i see sorts of conflicting stories . the press briefed by stories. the press briefed by various people, but the things that ministers and the prime minister have been very clearly throughout last is that they do

not yet have a deal they are still in negotiate and that they fully understand that their deal has to tackle the democratic deficit issue which is most crucial to the unionists in northern ireland. and how do they get there? because the dup have made it very clear that they seven tests. do you believe that rishi sunak will be able to square circle? well, i hope you can. i mean, i wish them every success.i can. i mean, i wish them every success. i think he's made a lot of progress in persuading the eu that this is a problem caused by the eu, the eu of upset the unionist community, the eu taken a very lopsided or indeed wrong into reputation as the northern ireland protocol and are trying to insist on it. the law, the protocol itself . protocol starts protocol itself. protocol starts by making very clear that the good friday agreement has to take precedence in all respects . and the good friday agreement makes crystal clear that nothing major can happen in northern ireland without the approval .

ireland without the approval. both communities. ireland without the approval. both communities . and it is also both communities. and it is also very clear that the unionist community has never considered tit to the idea that northern ireland should have to accept eu laws when . the rest of the laws when. the rest of the country gb does not have to accept them anymore because we have left the eu. and so the eu is the protocol . it's obviously is the protocol. it's obviously in dispute . the unionist in dispute. the unionist community and. i hope they will listen very carefully to the community and calm down because we want the good friday agreement to be upheld . we would agreement to be upheld. we would like to see the unionists back at stormont and they can't there all the time. the eu is this provocative now ? now, richard, provocative now? now, richard, you would very much to see us back in the europe union. would you accept the eu has been ever so slightly when it comes to these negotiations ? no, i these negotiations? no, i wouldn't accept that at and in fairness to john that, he doesn't know what's been going on in the negotiation over the weekend, which he freely admits , blames the eu for it.

, yet he blames the eu for it. i like to actually see what comes out of the negotiated means before i have to before doing so, but i have to say ways, emily, i feel say many ways, emily, i feel that we're back in april 2015, right at the start of our debate, and i would just remind still rejoin . still asking for us to rejoin. well, frank we haven't well, to be frank we haven't really left with the really left yet with the northern protocol in place and goods flowing through dover and through the border into belfast. so it would be argued that brexit has been done, i think is a false thing to actually say. but let's remind ourselves what the issue with brexit is and let's be honest with ourselves here. for brexit to succeed, one of three things has to happen . of three things has to happen. either has to leave the either ireland has to leave the eu we know not going to eu we know is not going to happen, or we to have happen, or we have to have a firm border between ireland and ireland firm border between ireland or firm border between northern and great britain . and northern and great britain. and i think john would accept both of those are incredibly unlikely to actually happen. we have this shabby compromise at the moment with the northern ireland agreement where effectively they and i can understand to a certain extent why union is a

very upset with that? because it does put an artificial divide between northern ireland and the rest . gb and between northern ireland and the rest. gb and based on what we heard leaked the papers of the red channel, green channel, i'm not surprised that that's fallen down flames if that's what's down in flames if that's what's indeed in these indeed happened in these negotiations because think negotiations, because i think the right to point the dup would be right to point out another shabby out it's another shabby compromise does nothing compromise that does nothing actually deliver what we were actually to deliver what we were promised in the brexit debate. and that's why i feel we just going back to 2015, we need to move forward with some reasonable are reasonable scotch on you are shaking head there. yes. i shaking your head there. yes. i don't accept those are the opfions don't accept those are the options at all. the united kingdom has always said that we see no need impose new border controls between northern ireland and. the republic of ireland and. the republic of ireland . and we've also offered ireland. and we've also offered enforce eu rules law on any exports from northern ireland to the republic and. it would be up to the republic to decide how they handle their side of the border, but they can quite easily do that without any new

border controls at the border. you use trusted trade schemes , you use trusted trade schemes, you use the normal enforcement mechanism at the warehouses and farms before the goods are dispatched at the place where they are delivered to in the usual way and been a long history of cooperation between the uk and the republic of ireland. when we were the eu to stop smuggled in, because of course there was vat border and an excise border between the two in those days because had different types of excise arrangements , but we didn't arrangements, but we didn't enforce them at the post. it wasn't a border post. we enforce them in the way of been and that's exactly how we could carry on enforcing any other differences as the uk diverge cheese from european law . well, cheese from european law. well, there you go richard. it's not beyond the wit of man. i have said quite surprised to say it to hearjohn. they're about being willing to enforce eu rules on goods going ireland because that doesn't sound like

brexit at all to me. indeed, if john's considering changing parties and would like to join us, that sounds like exactly the sort of thing we're pushing for. and is not brexit. you and this is not brexit. if you want brexit, you promised us a complete separation from the european union. and the point i would put to you is that proving more and more impossible to deliver now, i offer a very simple solution. let's forget the whole thing rejoin the the whole thing and rejoin the eu, what the majority eu, which is what the majority of the population now show in polls. they want. now i would just now coming up just kindly you've now coming up to eight years to solve this now either solve it john or admit it is not solvable one of the two i think we're running out of patience. i had a little murmur, a grumble, your breath, the yes, one that just a city debating point , which one that just a city debating point, which is not in reality until, of course , when you trade until, of course, when you trade with another state under world trade organisation rules or in this case it would be under eu free trade agreement . there is free trade agreement. there is enforcement , both sides of the

enforcement, both sides of the border of the appropriate and so it is part of normal trade code that states with each other against the smuggling of illicit goods. against the smuggling of illicit goods . they be unsafe goods or goods. they be unsafe goods or they be goods trying to fiddle they be goods trying to fiddle the tax arrangements or whatever it may. that is still a free trade model where you don't have to surrender yourself anti to the other country. but is mutual enforcement to ensure a fair and free and legal trade and these points about how the answer to everything is to go back the eu i mean by what mean and are you so undemocratic having denied the result of our biggest ever democratic , you will take us democratic, you will take us back. democratic, you will take us back . i democratic, you will take us back. i actually democratic, you will take us back . i actually lead a back. i actually lead a democratic party that stands in elections now. can you call the less than a minute left? so i just want to get a quick word in you and what we were what we supposed to be talking about initially, which is should the commons and the lords get say commons and the lords get a say on get rid of eu.

on whether we get rid of eu. john yes, they are. and what a difference between the way those laws were introduced when we had thousands eu laws forced upon us. there was either no debate in the commons all or the minister would a perfunctory short debate and say doesn't matter what you think about this, you can't vote it down, you can't amend it. this is eu law and it's already happened. whereas now every single law is subject to parliamentary . if subject to parliamentary. if parliament wants and we are currently having this big debate about a major act of parliament to expedite it, which parliament can either accept or not accept or as it sees fit. the point we couldn't amend any of those when they came in. quick word. well i'm glad to hearjohn accept the responsibilities . parliament responsibilities. parliament there. there are now 3800 laws that are just going to disappear without scrutiny. if rishi sunak gets his way. we elected parliament actually do some work on our behalf not just stuff their faces on subsidised lunches all day and getting through 3800 laws by the end of

december should be beyond the wit of man . and i'm glad john wit of man. and i'm glad john acknowledges that as and i hope john the labour party the lib dems will force mr. sunak take his responsibilities seriously as well. well, thank you . you as well. well, thank you. you shouldn't mislead people into that. we were ever intending to scrap all 3800 laws, but we. but that's what's going to happen, john. on december 30, do something about that. but you know that parliamentary you just i look forward to seeing parliamentary democracy in place i look forward to seeing the people we send there doing some and dealing with each and every one of those laws . that's coming one of those laws. that's coming up the sunset in the 31st of december this year. sadly sadly, we're going to have to end it there very. thank you very much indeed. that was, of course, mp for wokingham, sir john, indeed. that was, of course, mp for wokingham, sirjohn, and leader the rejoin eu party leader of the rejoin eu party with very view, with a very different view, richard thank you very richard hewison, thank you very much for both of your much indeed for both of your time. you, emily. now we time. thank you, emily. now we are going straight the .

break i could have spoken those two for a very long time. that was john redwood and the leader, the rejoin eu party. they don't to agree on very much, but we're back. this is real britain on gb news on tv online and digital radio. now a new poll, news on tv online and digital radio. now a new poll , the mail radio. now a new poll, the mail onune radio. now a new poll, the mail online has found that nearly half of brits back inviting the sussexes to the king's coronation . but more would coronation. but more would prefer meghan to stay at home. and just 26% wanted prince andrew to attend . that's quite andrew to attend. that's quite a lot, actually, with 41% are against it. to discuss this, i am joined by royal commentator , am joined by royal commentator, international correspondent judy de silva. thank you very much indeed for joining de silva. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. so what indeed for joining us. so what do you make of this polling that shows that people aren't too bothered maybe about whether the sussexes turn up . so this poll sussexes turn up. so this poll was done by redfield td and

walton strategies for the mailonline. it was done on the 23rd and was taken from the votes 108,500 british voters . votes 108,500 british voters. and then the results were weighted to give a perception of what the general opinion , the what the general opinion, the population . when you think about population. when you think about what it's actually dealing with, the attendance of the coronation. the coronation pubuc coronation. the coronation public property . historically public property. historically from when we started it in school about british history , school about british history, it's when you get a litmus test, the favour that people have for income. so when you look at the operations of the firm, they will look at the results of a poll like this because it gives an about how the people feel of the status quo of , the royal the status quo of, the royal family going forward . it comes family going forward. it comes to the sussexes who've seen that they have the greatest bone of contention , recent memory that contention, recent memory that the has had to the royal family has had to contend understanding that contend with. understanding that the people based on this poll would rather they do. on the sussex sussexes or they would rather than harry and meghan.

thatis rather than harry and meghan. that is the actual practicality of that happening is i would say pretty much nil because . we've pretty much nil because. we've seen from the way they operate as a unit since the exit from dufies as a unit since the exit from duties they're a package and they're unified in everything going forward and also the understanding of us asking the son of the queen should kings attend without wife and the mother of his children is somewhat ridiculous . but then somewhat ridiculous. but then again, like i said, if we're a nafion again, like i said, if we're a nation as public property, if you are not seen to listen to the opinion of the will of the people you're in very dangerous territory because the royal family exists to that they are their benefit. they're furnished by the wallet, which is basically the people's. and so if you're seen to buck their opinions or their desires . you opinions or their desires. you don't function within the parameters , your position. and parameters, your position. and that's going to be problematic. so i do think that buoyancy this opfion so i do think that buoyancy this option will be explored by the firm. but will it go forward to actual tangible action . strongly actual tangible action. strongly doubt. yes i think you're right.

and it's hard to know what royal source to believe and what reports about royals are true and what you know, what's true and what you know, what's true and what's false is difficult. but there does seem to be a bit of consensus that there's some kind of stalemate between king charles and prince harry over whether prince harry should have an apology before he agrees to go to the coroner and the king is in a pretty tricky situation . he's in a very tricky situation because when you it's kind of you have to look the dynamics of the royal family as entity within the public sphere and also as a family because at the end of day, that is indeed what they are. and when you have situation, there are emotions hurt on both sides. there was a fence that has been caused and also you've against the status quo of the way this family is operated it operates in a very bizarre way , but it does so for bizarre way, but it does so for its own price and survival, though , has chosen to define his though, has chosen to define his own way going forward. he to be reticent of the fact that , the

reticent of the fact that, the reason the family has come far in an ever changing with ever changing appetites that see them as irrelevant pointless and expensive . there are things that expensive. there are things that just cannot be done to demand the apology for actions taken based on how feel that is something dealt with as a family of the of england cannot be seen to bend to the whim of a temperamental child which is essentially what is going on here. his feelings are justifiably wrong that wrongdoing happened on both parts but dealing with it so publicly when you begin to make the arguments of political opfics the arguments of political optics against function of the family and the two don't jibe well together. i like that temperamental child . but it's temperamental child. but it's very diplomatic. it explains it it explains his behaviour quite succinct of course, as prince andrew to contend with as well. the public don't really want to see him there if that poll is to be believed , how can he juggle be believed, how can he juggle that? of course, there have been

other about how much money he's been given and where he's living . thing with prince andrew. . see thing with prince andrew. i find him both disturbing and fascinating because there is so much negative towards him concretely . for all the concretely. for all the allegations that came out of the jeffrey epstein scandal and his handung jeffrey epstein scandal and his handling of it there after but one people what people have to understand prince andrew's really at sea is very different from anything the majority of us have ever known. his actions speak to the kind of human being he is and the position he holds is. he's in a crisis where he may not be able to stay in the he's been and saw himself staying he died. he has fallen out of favour with the public . out of favour with the public. he has been pulled away from duties. he has been pulled away from dufies.the he has been pulled away from duties. the kind of person and he has been was always by the presence of the late queen and the duke of edinburgh. she always seen within the perspective of she was the queen's favourite according to a lot of people's assertions .

queen's favourite according to a lot of people's assertions. his personality was very in synchronicity with the kinds things the duke of edinburgh did where they kind of skated very close to the edge of propriety . close to the edge of propriety. they were they were loveable rogues in a sense, but something has happened that he cannot he cannot bluster his way through it. so now have a situation where, again , coronation, which where, again, coronation, which is public property , king charles is public property, king charles has to navigate now being in charge of managed a personality that he already has personal problems with . they are not problems with. they are not close. they are not friendly , close. they are not friendly, have had a competitive relationship throughout their time as members of. relationship throughout their time as members of . the royal time as members of. the royal family, the queen is in anymore as that author , the duke of as that author, the duke of edinburgh is in president presence as a voice of reason . presence as a voice of reason. this is a palace trump as well as the tensions of two brothers. but again , charles is entering a but again, charles is entering a sphere of 2023. the world has changed. optics are the battlefield for the royal family. survival if he's done,

he does the wrong thing visually for people to see when prince andrew his coronation and reign going forward could blow up in his face. and he has to deal with that. but prince andrew doesn't have those pressures . he doesn't have those pressures. he only needs to act based on personal desire, not public . yes personal desire, not public. yes well, thank you very much indeed for taking through all that. he certainly has a lot on his plate and a lot of different personalities to manage whilst also keeping british public on side. i do not envy our monarch, but this is his duty. thank you very much indeed. royal commentator and international correspondent data to sylvia. they're talking us through polling that shows that brits aren't too bothered. i don't think about whether the sussexes turn but they would in their majority want to be there so you always gb news on tv and dab radio . after the break, i'll radio. after the break, i'll have my political panel debate whether doctors should be allowed to go on strike, following close following news that could close dunng following news that could close during days of industrial during three days of industrial action and the editing of roald

dahps action and the editing of roald dahl's works to remove potentially offensive language . potentially offensive language. but first, let's get a check on the news headlines with bethany elsey . emily, thank you . good elsey. emily, thank you. good afternoon. it's 231. i'm bethany elsey in the gb newsroom. irish premier leo varadkar says a deal on the northern ireland protocol deal could be made in the next few days. but there's still a gap to be closed. meanwhile, the prime is facing criticism after proposing a meeting between king charles and the european commission, ursula von der was due to continue talks with rishi sunakin due to continue talks with rishi sunak in person before meeting the king, but trip was cancelled. the shadow northern ireland secretary says it would have had constitutional implications. most members of the 620 implications. most members of the g20 have condemned war in ukraine and a joint declaration except china and russia who both refuse to sign. finance chiefs of the world's 20 largest

economies have meeting in india and issued a closing statement at the end of the summit. it comes as ukraine president says he plans to meet china's xi jinping after. beijing set out a peace plan . the war between peace plan. the war between ukraine and, russia. volodymyr zelenskyy didn't say when the meeting might happen , but told meeting might happen, but told a news conference in kyiv that it would be beneficial for both countries and for security . the countries and for security. the world. the number of people been killed in the earthquakes that hit turkey and syria has surpassed 50,000. the united nafions surpassed 50,000. the united nations estimates the destruction left 1.5 million people homeless. with 500,000 new homes needed , president new homes needed, president erdogan has vowed to build new homes by the end of the year. but he's being warned to . you're but he's being warned to. you're up to date on gb news live bringing you mornings as it

happens. emily we will be back with you after the .

break welcome back and this is real britain on gb news with emily carver on our tv online and digital radio. now the bma, the british medical association , british medical association, announced that junior doctors will strike for three days in march in their ongoing with the government over pay. the bma is demanding the equivalent of a 35% pay rise. virginia doctors due to a real terms fall in their pay. however, health leaders are warning a&e will be forced to close whilst the strike is ongoing due to staff shortages . around 80% of a&e shortages. around 80% of a&e patients are seen junior doctors. but should doctors allowed to go on strike? to debate this, i am now joined my wonderful political panel political commentator, joe phillips and director of the new

culture , peter whittall. i'll culture, peter whittall. i'll come to you first down the line. what do you think should actually be allowed to . strike actually be allowed to. strike well, by law, they are not allowed to remove or withdraw from life and limb cover unless . the nhs has organ ized cover for them and they have said the bma said that they would return to work in the case of a critical incident, an emergency like a terrorist attack or something like that. i mean , something like that. i mean, striking i think is the last resort. these people who are although we say junior doctors, they're not all straight of medical school, it can be anybody straight out of medical school up to the level just below consultant on. this figure that they've put which is basically saying they've lost 6% of their income over the last 15 years. well you could argue that there will be people in the health service right now who

weren't working 15 years ago. so that does seem a little bit of a red herring. but the problem is , under the current system in england, doctors junior doctors are only getting to% as part of are only getting to% as part of a four year deal, whereas other members in, the health service are getting 4.5. and it does appear that the government is again being completely intransigent , refusing to make intransigent, refusing to make them. they've meeting with civil servants, but they met with steve barclay . and it does seem steve barclay. and it does seem to me that, you know, we've seen what these people are doing. they've done throughout the pandemic . they're exhausted, pandemic. they're exhausted, they're out, they're leaving in droves . and it would be sensible droves. and it would be sensible and up for the government to sit down and talk to them. peter to make some pretty points there. make sense . do have a burnt out make sense. do have a burnt out workforce if you believe what doctors are saying and don't have any reason to. not where can the government go from here? because for a lot of people, you know, safety of patients is

paramount. it is. i i think to your first question, actually really, emily, about whether doctors should be able to strike. i you know, i don't like the idea of no one being, you know, having to anybody having their strike, like just taken away , actually. i mean, you away, actually. i mean, you know, i think it's sort of one of our basic actually. i know that sort of popular view amongst many people. our what worries me more actually about this and it's something that joe there hasn't mentioned is that there hasn't mentioned is that the british medical association , the vast majority of junior doctors, don't actually belong to it. i think it's something like two thirds of them. and although they did have that vote favour of strike action , the bma favour of strike action, the bma itself seems to have been infiltrated by some quite hard left groups. so in other words , left groups. so in other words, it would appear to be more of a wide ideological , which it would appear to be more of a wide ideological, which i'm entirely , entirely against. so

entirely, entirely against. so the should certainly say from against that. well, this is the difficulty, joe, isn't it? because what peter says is true, people may have legitimate for more money, but it all gets up in a wider ideological political agenda that those leading the unions i mean, you can see it from the from the placards, the trains , you know, there are trains, you know, there are probably on that march there who aren't even doctors and probably, you know, certainly not of the bma. i think the is that when you talk about strikes and you talk about unions, we end up going back largely because of government, going back the language the 1970s. back to the language the 1970s. and we talk about union barons. well, you know, if you think cullen, the leader of the royal college nursing, is a union college of nursing, is a union baron and would put her in the same bracket as people who were strikes leyland and strikes at british leyland and ford in the 1970s, then you're on a different planet and think the government has is misread the government has is misread the public mood. there's a lot of sympathy for people working in the health service, whether they're doctors, nurses,

paramedics or other staff, physiotherapy , radiologists, physiotherapy, radiologists, what have you, because we all know how hard they have worked. we also that they are working above and beyond and their contracted time . you know, we contracted time. you know, we hear constantly of people having to work, nurses and doctors deaung to work, nurses and doctors dealing with more than they should be. and we have got this problem of recruitment and retention. you know, peter well, be right. i don't know. but there 48,000 members of the bma 36,000 of them voted for strike action. so, you know, that is a huge, huge majority . above and huge, huge majority. above and beyond legal requirements . there beyond legal requirements. there may be others. i mean, i know certainly with the ambulance crews with the gmb for instance , haven't had enough. they're not going out on strike. but you have this ridiculous thing that if you're a member of a union that doesn't reach out of reach the record number of votes , you the record number of votes, you can't on strike if you're not can't go on strike if you're not member of a union. you can go

on. well, there you go . one of on. well, there you go. one of the things that cause a lot of our viewers, peter, is that the nhs is budget as a whole has ballooned . it's gone up 40% ballooned. it's gone up 40% since 2010 in real terms , but since 2010 in real terms, but wages haven't going wrong. they're always spending too on the wrong things, you know, you've got diversity officers, they're often in the media for they're often in the media for the six figure salaries they get . is it a question of resources being spent wisely? no, i think this is as she's interesting, you know says says that there's great public support the strike. yes would say . well if that yes i would say. well if that might be overstating it slightly. but there's certainly support there for it . but what support there for it. but what i certainly have is that people now understand and realise that there is something very now about how nhs is organised that has to be dealt with, it has to be reformed in some way, you know, always what's happened before is that people said, oh , before is that people said, oh, you just want to privatise it . you just want to privatise it. we're past that kind of argument

now . i think there we're past that kind of argument now. i think there is a now. i think that there is a realisation that it's just realisation that it's not just the that you can just keep the case that you can just keep on increasing amounts of money given to the nhs. i do , by the given to the nhs. i do, by the way, just go back on my original point , which way, just go back on my original point, which is about the british medical association . you british medical association. you said you didn't hear anything very much about joe, but there is actually a report for policy exchange by andrew gilligan when . he talks actually about all the various different groups that now have a purchase within the bma and that there their mission is a wider one. it's more of an ideological anti tory one. yeah they're still doctors. peter you know it's not like they're just joining up. they're not, you know, jeremy corbyn followers who have just joined the union, they are still doctors, they are still working within the health service, not their political views might be much different to other members , the same union, but it's you can't say they're the concerns and the worries are not as valid

as, say, colleagues because they're all working alongside each other dealing with patients . it'sjust each other dealing with patients . it's just sorry. you know, you . well, just to go back to the point about budgets and, i think you're absolutely right, emily. i mean, there are billions and you could you know, could you could you know, you could just the money felt and just have the money felt and that would go into the nature and would just pull through and it would just pull through the there's an the ground because there's an awful that needs changing the ground because there's an awflthere that needs changing the ground because there's an awflthere isat needs changing the ground because there's an awflthere is a needs changing the ground because there's an awflthere is a resistorhanging the ground because there's an awflthere is a resistor t01ging and there is a resistor to change. and that isn't just within the sort of the soups you like the bureaucracies with the nhs we spend an absolute fortune on low comes on agency staff of the shortage of staff there are duplications of services, there are , you know, absolutely are, you know, absolutely appalling communication and it problems. so there's an awful lot be done but you're not going to get those changes unless you engage. and it does seem to me that the time the government is entrenched in this no, we're not going to talk to you. and i'm

having to talk now to the nurses. they will eventually have to talk to the doctors . and have to talk to the doctors. and we've got the additional we've also got the additional problem of australians reportedly nab all our reportedly trying nab all our youngest and brightest including our doctors, nurses and whatever else which isn't good thing for great britain. so perhaps is more of an argument to just for the sake of retaining people to up the pay. well going to go to roll it on in just a moment. but we've got lots of news coming on.the we've got lots of news coming on. the topics we've been discussing already today on meghan and harry robinson. i think that coronation would think that the coronation would be without harry and be so better without harry and meghan harsh. perhaps meghan attending harsh. perhaps then make tv then they can't make new tv books. to harry, an apology books. as to harry, an apology from the king. it's obvious he should apologising for his should be apologising for his appalling behaviour everyone appalling behaviour to everyone . i'm sure a lot of people would agree with you on that. what did the royal commentator say? she said temperamental said he was a temperamental child. anyway, on brexit, bernard says, why are we negotiating eu? we negotiating with the eu? we can just article 16 if the deal just use article 16 if the deal is not good for. northern ireland just walk away. the eu are our success of the

are scared of our success of the european union. i think there's definitely some truth to that. and mary says on the eu, well, most of us absolutely do not to go into the european union. go back into the european union. the ireland are due to the issues in ireland are due to mindedness desire . punish mindedness and desire. punish the for having the temerity the uk for having the temerity to leave . yes, i think there is to leave. yes, i think there is a lot of hard feelings on on that , but a lot of hard feelings on on that, but also very much here as well. we just spoke to the rejoin the eu man, didn't we? and on roald dahl, another bernard says if don't like roald dahps bernard says if don't like roald dahl's books , just dahl's original books, just don't them. well, what we've don't buy them. well, what we've seen from amazon, at least is that are very much buying that people are very much buying them them in their them and buying them in their droves trying the droves and trying to get the unadulterated versions. thank unadulterated versions. so thank you sending your you very much for sending your views. do keep them views. please do keep them coming. moving the coming. now, moving on the publishing roald publishing house puffin on roald dahl publishing house puffin on roald dahl, they've announced that they now publish uncensored they will now publish uncensored versions roald dahl's books . versions of roald dahl's books. following a backlash, the company announced week it had been had hundreds changes been had made hundreds changes to dahl's books, removing any to weight, height, gender and colour. following a review by sensitivity, readers . however sensitivity, readers. however following interventions by

several profile figures including sir salman rushdie and the queen consort, puffin announced , it would now publish announced, it would now publish dahps announced, it would now publish dahl's text as well as dahl's original text as well as the tamer updated ones. but perhaps was an overreaction to puffin editing roald dahl's books. puffin editing roald dahl's books . and should books ever be books. and should books ever be edhed books. and should books ever be edited to remove offensive language still ? with me, all language still? with me, all political commentator joe phillips and this year and director of the new culture forum, peter whittle. peter this is your bread and butter. you are the of the new culture forum. you look censorship, free speech etc. etc. do you? you must understand better than anyone why this story was so big? well, of course. i mean , big? well, of course. i mean, you know and also to what your original point. show me. i don't think there was overreaction at all to. i'm pleased to see reaction . i'd like to see a hell reaction. i'd like to see a hell of a lot more of it because this censorship. it's not by the way a victory in the sense they've now decided to publish these original because they're publishing the new ones at the

same time. and indeed apparently on e—books you're getting the new censored ones whether you like it or not. yes, exactly. this come out today. so in fact , it's certainly only a minor victory, a minor push back. no, let's be quite clear about . let's be quite clear about. this. these people , these this. these people, these sensitivity readers are , all sensitivity readers are, all part of the kind of woke attack the company that was taken on by puffin, i think it's called inclusive minds in my view. they should be called totalitarian minds . that's what this ideology minds. that's what this ideology is . or indeed mind control. this is. or indeed mind control. this is. or indeed mind control. this is pure orwell. it's an overused term , but it is. the fact is, term, but it is. the fact is, throughout our entire culture it just happens to be wrote of this week there has been is ongoing an attack along these lines based gender on sexual almost neven based gender on sexual almost never. i might add on class terms this is thing but this is

going right to the very foundations of our culture and i think people should take it as seriously as i certainly take it and see it for what it is this is the case at. home wants to get involved by the looks of things. so peter, please do finish please do finish your point . no, no, finish please do finish your point. no, no, no. finish please do finish your point . no, no, no. the fact is, point. no, no, no. the fact is, is that this is just one where we get one a day. now we. this is just one of many, whether it's the theatre, whether it's television, whether it is publishing , television, whether it is publishing, it television, whether it is publishing , it is a television, whether it is publishing, it is a journey. rule attack often by junior staff who then manage to frighten into doing they want with the book. and frankly, these need to get some courage , these need to get some courage, actually, and stand up to them because actually they can. like in america, for example , junior in america, for example, junior staff managed to get rid of senior because they to senior staff because they to certain words that they used in the york times. i mean, this,

you know, is happening across publishing as well. so it does seem like a book written today could be cancelled by tomorrow at the moment, do you think? or do think peter is big over exaggerated? no i mean, i agree with peter and i think any censorship on books and written material is the thin end of the wedge and it is orwellian . and wedge and it is orwellian. and it is something that we should fight against. you mentioned in the introduction rushdie, you know , has been attacked for it know, has been attacked for it because he offended people he was under a fatwa for very many years because offended people through his writing. i mean, you know, you could that some books that maybe peter and i certainly might read as children or had read to it wouldn't get published. but you know there is a huge canon of work out there for kids from beatrix potter to jacqueline wilson to malorie blackman to alex. there's a whole load of things, and one of the things about stories for,

well, two things. one is roald dahl all accounts was not a particularly pleasant character and his books are not cutesy, sweet and they are all imbued , sweet and they are all imbued, something deeply unpleasant and rather, whether it's the witches or , you know, the children or, you know, the children i love the children love it. and children, you know, that's fairy tales. and grimm and hans andersen and all of those things. and many, many are written on. it's how you deal with children and whether it's library or whether it's a school , whether it's home, you know you can say, well, that's very nice. is it? or that person's not very nice, but you have to edit and change. you know, i was to talking about this very subject the other day about beatrix potter . now, where else beatrix potter. now, where else in the in a children's book would love the word soporific because i bet there's somebody out there who would say, oh, that's too hot. let's change it

to makes you sleepy. but that's not the same . and the whole not the same. and the whole point about reading , exposing point about reading, exposing you to ideas and language . and you to ideas and language. and having that conversation , if you having that conversation, if you don't like it, you don't have to. but i'm just a little bit cynical. i want to ask peter because he's a he's an expert on this far more than. i am. do you think there might be a cynical ploy think there might be a cynical ploy in this, peter, that there might be the heritage version of roald for sale beautifully roald dahl for sale beautifully . and non—horror version ? . and the non—horror version? no, i mean, you know that would be to put you know, that would be to put you know, that would be give them the benefit of the doubt really to i think that this is basically going particularly to actually this all this thing to stay in your lane whereby you are a novelist and you're a white. you can't really write about a black woman, for example. this is death of creativity is the death of creativity . sorry to of creativity. sorry to interrupt, but apparently it's incredibly difficult these days to a children's book published

if it doesn't fulfil some kind of gender or aspect or some kind message. it's not just and it's not just even books. it's all books. not just even books. it's all books . all books. i mean, the books. all books. i mean, the fact is, i do hope people wake up actually to what's happening. you mentioned joe the sinner and the witch i mean, we're actually a long way along the wedge now. actually i mean, this is a fund mental assault on all the creative values that we have in western civilisation . it really western civilisation. it really is that serious. i think that's no exaggeration. agree with you, peter, and i just wish people would get but i wish people would get but i wish people would share. the same anger and fury at the unadulterated nonsense. ms. homophobia, sexism and everything else. it comes out on twitter , tick tock and out on twitter, tick tock and social media. i mean, one of the things i just sorry, joe, but that that just shows how ridiculous this kind of censorship is on children . censorship is on children. children are watching. they're watching god knows what's on their phones every day. and we're worried about using the

word exactly. exactly you word fat. exactly. exactly you know, fat is a descriptive . it's know, fat is a descriptive. it's only offensive if you use it offensively . and just on peter's offensively. and just on peter's point about publishing, i mean, publishing is one of the most white middle certainly in this country industries . and, you country industries. and, you know, the way that you into publishing is if you're rich enough or well—connected enough , you can work for free. and that's where i think part of the problem comes from. it's trying too hard to appease other people. they don't know well. they probably feel like what they're doing. they may feel like they're too privileged . so like they're too privileged. so therefore need to back therefore they need to back whatever cause under the sun. but just say, when i still but may i just say, when i still have image of the witches in have the image of the witches in my head from when i read it when i i don't know how old i was. i don't know how old i can still picture exactly how i imagined the scene where the giant or i don't know if it was the anyway i can picture it so clearly in my mind all the feelings had a little of

feelings i had a little bit of fear a little bit of excite meant it's just amazing how much books need that imagery books and they need that imagery in don't peter but in them don't they. peter but it's . it'sjust, in them don't they. peter but it's . it's just, it's it's beautiful. it's just, it's not book. so i mean really, i appeal to you to your viewers. gb news it's not just books, right? all of our institute and that includes all cultural ones. that includes publishing houses, museums, all the rest, if they have all been infiltrated by this kind of ideology. like when you go to an exhibition, you know, will things to know, you will see things to next telling you next paintings now telling you what to think. you know, publishing , what to think. you know, publishing, book publishing. now they have these sensitivity readers who essentially impose their own ideology on the books . it takes a particularly actually attitude to be able to do actually unbelievably presumptive . but that is, in presumptive. but that is, in fact, what these people are it is an ideal elegy which is anti was probably helps you know the road dahl was a white straight man it helps in their view it's

extremely arrogant. anyway, i think that's all we've got time for on that debate. but thank you very much. indeed. that was very, very insightful . as very, very insightful. as always, our political panel with joe political joe phillips, political commentator course, peter commentator and of course, peter whittall, the whittall, head of the new culture forum. thank you very much i believe we are much indeed, i believe we are now going to the break. we are coming in one second.

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radio. now a big coming up we'll be discussing china's for a ceasefire in ukraine and their proposed peace plan us president joe biden said it's not rational for china negotiate peace . i'm for china negotiate peace. i'm not sure i can argue with that. and should the uk also continue to send military aid to ukraine at current? former adviser david cameron. philip blunt will be joining us to talk about plans to double school places to address staff in the nhs and. finally, who should be the next leader of the snp? it seems to be a run off between kate forbes and humza yousaf. we'll discuss that. but first, let's get the news headlines with bethany elsey . emily you. good elsey. emily you. good afternoon. it'sjust elsey. emily you. good afternoon. it's just gone. 3:00. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom islands. prime minister leo says a deal on the northern protocol could be made in the next few days, but that there's still a gap to be closed in negotiations. meanwhile the

prime minister is facing criticism after proposing a meeting between king charles and the european commission president, ursula von der leyen. ms. due to continue talks with rishi sunak in person before meeting the king, but her trip was cancelled. the shadow northern ireland says it would have had constitutional implications. foreign secretary james cleverly spoke exclusively to gb news. we remain focussed on the outcome rather than the method and the outcome is to protect northern ireland's place in the united to make sure that people , businesses and the people, businesses and the political representatives of these people in northern ireland are comfortable with the resolution, whilst also sure that we protect the uk internal market. those are very much our motivations. that's what will drive our actions . most members drive our actions. most members of the g20 condemned the war in ukraine in a joint declaration except that china and russia, who both refuse to sign. finance chiefs of the world's 20 largest

economies been meeting in india , issued a closing statement at. the end of the summit. it comes as ukraine's president says he plans to meet china's xi jinping after beijing set out a peace for the war between ukraine and russia. vladimir zelenskyy a news conference in kyiv would be beneficial for both countries and for security around the world. probably not. do motty. sure you should. it's correct to think that if there are thoughts that somehow to respect for international territorial integrity and some security issues , i believe we should use issues, i believe we should use this and work with china on this matter. why i want to believe that china be on the side of a fair peace . which means on our fair peace. which means on our side. this is very important to me. i really want to believe that china not supply weapons to russia . the number of who've russia. the number of who've been killed in the earthquakes out of turkey and syria has surpassed 50,000. the united nafions surpassed 50,000. the united nations estimates the destruction has left 1.5 million

people homeless with 500,000 new homes needed. president urdu has pledged to rebuild homes within the year, but experts are warning authorities to put safety before speed to ensure new buildings can withstand further tremors . a 3.7 magnitude further tremors. a 3.7 magnitude earthquake was felt in south wales last night. the british geological survey says it had to bnng geological survey says it had to bring more crickhowell just before when the tremor with , the before when the tremor with, the tremor felt as far away as. residents on media have described being woken up to their whole house shaking for a short time . hundreds gathered in short time. hundreds gathered in county tyrone in northern ireland to demand an end violence in the country. it's after the attempted murder of an off duty policeman, detective chief inspector john cauldwell shot outside a sports centre on wednesday. he remains a critical condition. the local football

club where mr. caldwell is a volunteer , have also gathered in volunteer, have also gathered in solidarity . five suspects have solidarity. five suspects have been arrested and say the incident is treated as terror related with the new i.r.a. group . their main line of group. their main line of inquiry , the defence secretary inquiry, the defence secretary says he's confident , troubled says he's confident, troubled £5.5 billion programme to build new army has turned a corner. the project to build nearly 600 ajax fighting vehicles has faced criticism over severe delays and technical issues after nearly 13 years. it's yet to deploy a single tank , ben wallace says single tank, ben wallace says soldiers are now being trained in how to use them and hopes they'll be active in military within the next two years. when itook within the next two years. when i took over as secretary of defence three and a half years ago. was a troubled programme. it started its life in march 2010 and i was determined that we were either going to fix this or have to find alternatives . or have to find alternatives. and so we put a lot of effort

into, worked with general dynamics, the prime contractor, and the army. you and with the army. and, you know, think think of its use know, i think think of its use the trials that it completed at christmas time. know, it christmas time. you know, it started a corner . started to turn a corner. thousands of displaced ukrainians are being given the chance. ukrainians are being given the chance . go to the eurovision chance. go to the eurovision song contest in may. around 3000 tickets will be made available to. ukrainians who are currently living in the uk. liverpool has chosen to host on behalf of ukraine, who won last year's competition . the government has competition. the government has announced competition. the government has announce d £10 million in funding announced £10 million in funding to make sure event showcases ukrainian . you're up to date on ukrainian. you're up to date on gb news. bring you more news as it happens now though, it's back to . to. emily yeah , yes. welcome back to real yeah, yes. welcome back to real britain. here's what's coming up on the show this hour. so us president joe biden has it's not

rational for china to negotiate peace after the country called for a ceasefire the war and proposed a 12 point peace plan. plus, should uk continue to send military aid to ukraine at current levels? we'll discuss with former army commander colonel richard kemp and trade unionist and broadcaster paul emery. they slightly different views on that . then former views on that. then former adviser to david cameron, philip blonde will be joining us talk about plans to double medical school places to address staff shortages in the nhs. and finally who should be the next leader of snp. a new poll of voters show that kate forbes is in the lead. it seems to be a runoff between her and humza . runoff between her and humza. we'll discuss that with political editor at the express onune political editor at the express online david maddox and austin sheridan, former snp glasgow city councillor, who i believe backing humza yousaf . what we're backing humza yousaf. what we're talking about for the next hour, as always, i'd love hear your thoughts on today's topics. please do tweet at gb news or

you can email me gbviews@gbnews.uk . you can also gbviews@gbnews.uk. you can also watch us online . stay tuned . now watch us online. stay tuned. now before the break, we were talking about roald dahl with my wonderful political panel and that ludicrous decision to censor some of the words, rewrite some of the passages that were deemed offensive . but that were deemed offensive. but we have to now go to a statement. we've got a statement to on all our story from penguin which owns puffin, the publisher. so the decision to keep the original version of the books. keep the original version of the books . francesca dow, managing books. francesca dow, managing editor of penguin said we've listened the debate over the past week, which reaffirmed the extraordinary power of roald dahps extraordinary power of roald dahl's books and the very real questions around how stories from another era can be kept relevant for each new generation . we also recognise the importance of keeping dahl's classic texts in print by making both puffin and penguin versions available are offering readers the choice to decide how they experience roald dahl's magical

marvellous stories. well, that's good. they've kept the magic at least we can buy and to buy the original i'm sure many people at home will continue to do that. but moving to on next story is a big story. us president joe biden has said it's not rational for china , negotiate peace in for china, negotiate peace in ukraine. that's after beijing issued a 12 point peace plan and called for a ceasefire . but called for a ceasefire. but china's interventions seem to be welcomed by ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy actually, who said china started talking about ukraine. and that's not bad. meanwhile, the gb news poll has found the british public strongly support the uk continuing to provide aid to ukraine. 67% of the public were in, while only 8% were against it. so i want to know, should the should the uk continue to military aid and should western leaders put a little bit more effort into helping negotiate peace running mate is former british army commander richard kemp and author, trade unionist and broadcaster paul embry. thank you very much indeed for

joining us this afternoon . joining us this afternoon. richard, can i start with you? i want to get view on this china 12 point peace plan . what's this 12 point peace plan. what's this all about ? well, it's not all about? well, it's not a peace plan . i've read i've read peace plan. i've read i've read it. it's basically a statement of what china's been expressing for a while as its principles in relation to the ukraine. so it doesn't really bring anything new and it's not it's not credible, as biden suggested for china to be involved . peace with china to be involved. peace with between ukraine and russia. china has very clearly been on russia's throughout this conflict . and even just a few conflict. and even just a few days or about 20 days i think before the war began in ukraine, china and russia on an unconditional friendship. since then, china been fuelling russia's war by buying large quantities russian oil and gas, which has helped provide funds to for putin to attack ukraine.

they've also refused, of course, to engage any sanctioning of russia , and they have used the russia, and they have used the banking facilities to money launder funds from russia that russia would otherwise not be able to operate . so they've in able to operate. so they've in to that they carried out cyber attacks ukraine and they have by russia with semi conductors which are essential for use in weapons manufacture. so there's no question that china can be seen as being in any way neutral in this conflict. they're very clearly russia's side , richard clearly russia's side, richard before i go to paul, can i just ask, there seem to be reports that china may actually be selling or giving military weapons to. the russian side, have you heard anything about that ? yeah, i have you heard anything about that? yeah, i as i mentioned, they're already fuelling putin's war machine. but there are negotiations at present for

between chinese companies in russia for manufacture and supplying drones and potentially other weapons as well . the us other weapons as well. the us has made it clear that china is concerned supplying weapons . concerned supplying weapons. russia. now that's not done just the basis of plucking it out of air. that's based on intelligence that the us and other nato countries have very much not a party in all of this. i think it's fair to say, paul, we see china with this peace plan, whether you believe that to be a peace plan or not, that's up to all of us to decide. but you would argue i right in thinking that the uk and other western nations be working more on peace negotiations shouldn't be left to the chinese . well, i think to the chinese. well, i think so. and you know , was interested so. and you know, was interested in what richard says. i mean. look, the truth is, if zelenskyy is willing to the chinese proposals , it appears that he proposals, it appears that he may be willing and putin is to consider them. then, frankly ,

consider them. then, frankly, who are we to say to either them, no, don't consider these proposals now we can be cynical and we may say well, they're not going to go anywhere . it may all going to go anywhere. it may all run into the ground. and so it might but it seems to me that at least china and i have no sympathy by the way with the chinese regime. but at least china seems to be grasping nettle and making some sort of proposals for peace . now, as to proposals for peace. now, as to the argument that china isn't neutral , neither are we to be neutral, neither are we to be perfectly honest. but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't make proposals for peace . what make proposals for peace. what concerns me, really, and i condemn completely by the way the invasion by putin of ukraine, i say that unequivocally , but what really unequivocally, but what really concerns me is we seem to be heanng concerns me is we seem to be hearing in the west more and more drumbeats for war politicians up more and more war and not enough politicians and people with influence making the case for peace . and the case for peace. and the disturbing thing is that we a year into this war it doesn't

look like it's going to end anytime soon. i don't think russia is about to be beaten i don't ukraine is about to don't think ukraine is about to be beaten. so unless somebody lays the path to peace, then what we're going see is what we're going to see is months years of months and, possibly years of more , more innocent more slaughter, more innocent people killed and instead people being killed and instead of and more war talk, of more and more war talk, i would like to see some effort being made in the west's the task of building a peace and perhaps making kind of proposals that china made rather than rubbishing them . richard poole rubbishing them. richard poole makes a couple of points there. firstly zelenskyy seems to have almost this statement from china . why would he be doing that ? . why would he be doing that? well, i would imagine it's in order to make sure that he appears to be reasonable and doesn't want to china's out of hand, which i think is perfectly reasonable position to take. and indeed there would be no no difficulty as far i could see with zelenskyy as he's asked to have talks with the president of

china. so that's a you know that's a perfectly reasonable position. but and paul's absolutely right that we should all be doing our best to bring about peace. unfortunately it's an impossible situation that we are in at the moment. i want to say we are in ukraine because there is no possible entity that president putin is going agree to end this war except on terms he has and russia have sacrificed too much, made too many incur, too many casualties among the russian people , much among the russian people, much economic damage for to even consider anything other than significant gains. consider anything other than significant gains . the conflict significant gains. the conflict he can't even for example contemplate the idea of let's go back to the pre february 2022 lines he can't do that he would he would be a goner without a doubt there are plenty of people in the kremlin who are even more kind of warmonger than he is he'd be he'd be finished. so can't do that. and can president zelenskyy say, well, okay, we'll

accept what russia's got now and we'll we'll go along with china's proposals and will ceasefire now and accept that a large chunk of ukraine is under russian control even more than was controlled in 2022. the is i mean this is great to talk about how we must get peace but it's an impossibility i'm to say that you know the situation not is not going to be resolved. i regret to say and as a soldier i know you know i know horrific war is for everybody involved and not going to be possible. i don't believe resolve the situation except on the unfortunately paul it's all well and good talking about peace , and good talking about peace, love and stability . but putin love and stability. but putin responds to brute force . well, responds to brute force. well, look, i mean, richard seems to be making the case, frankly , for be making the case, frankly, for endless war and know, the war at the moment is a war attrition. and from what richard's saying that there's no other alternative other than to expect

this war to go potentially for years . i this war to go potentially for years. i say this war to go potentially for years . i say i this war to go potentially for years. i say i think that's a pretty depressing . how do we pretty depressing. how do we know? well either side might settle for mean? it seems to me that we haven't even floated any ideas for peace at the moment, so it's impossible to say what putin be willing to settle putin might be willing to settle for in this conflict or. indeed, what zelenskyy might be willing to settle for, it strikes . me to settle for, it strikes. me that when you look at the minsk accords, which had possibility of bringing about a peace between the two countries built around defending the sovereignty , ukraine at the same time as recognising the need for some sort of autonomy for the ethnic russians in the east. it seems to me that could form the basis of some of peaceful settlement. but until we try things, we will never. but until we try things, we will never . and what i do know is never. and what i do know is that at the moment we are in dangerous territory. just a few days ago , on the same day, putin days ago, on the same day, putin withdrew russia from a nuclear arms treaty. at the same time as biden was standing in poland a former eastern bloc country

banging the drum for more war. and now, when you are in that situation with the american president , the russian premier, president, the russian premier, doing those things on the same day, then actually think you're in a pretty concerning situation and was have got a nasty habit of getting out of and escalating before any of this it and instead banging the drum for more war would like to see us focusing on the case for peace and we are simply not doing enoughif and we are simply not doing enough if putin doesn't want across the net so then fine it will have be more war. but for goodness sake, let's have a go. well, there you go. sadly, that is we've time for. would is all we've got time for. would love listen to both for love to listen to you both for the entire of the show, but the entire rest of the show, but we move on. thank you very much indeed. we'll speak i'm indeed. we'll speak again. i'm sure richard kemp and sure that was richard kemp and paul course, both paul embry of course, both regulars channel now. regulars on the channel now. moving know what you moving on. let me know what you think that by the way and also fact we're spending huge fact that we're spending huge amounts military aid. amounts money on military aid. of think we need of course. do you think we need to and putin done to continue and until putin done with that the end goal now with is that the end goal now moving to on one of the biggest

stories of the week, according home uk asylum home office data, the uk asylum backlog at a record high . backlog is at a record high. over 160,000 people. to help clear that the government will process applications of more than 12,000 people from five countries without face face interviews in what critics have called an amnesty in but name for the home office rejects. this is an amnesty of course so is this the only way to clear the backlog or is this a complete dereliction of duty and frankly a security risk? now joining me is william , who is joining me is william, who is the leader of the social democratic party. hello and steve valdes simons , who is steve valdes simons, who is a refugee and migrant program director programme at amnesty uk .thank director programme at amnesty uk . thank you very much indeed for coming on the show. william is this an amnesty in all but name 7 this an amnesty in all but name ? it's clearly an amnesty all but name and to fast track people in this way is basically a consequence of control of the

border . and a consequence of control of the border. and i've a consequence of control of the border . and i've always urged border. and i've always urged people to think about the causes of these things. and frankly, we have a near consensus among our political class on this matter, the tories elected in 2019 on a platform of a secure border and haven't done it, and every single day people come here unsolicited and have a very, very high chance staying here because grant rate is very high is an incentive to continue to do so. and i've always said that the migrants are actually entirely rationally , why entirely rationally, why wouldn't they come if they almost certainly stay ? and if almost certainly stay? and if they stay, they get access to effectively our wage, which is access to health, housing, education and other things. so basically until the government, the incentives , they won't do the incentives, they won't do it. by the way, by silly pubuchy it. by the way, by silly publicity stunts like the rwanda scheme until change the incentives this is going to get

worse . steve if you allow if worse. steve if you allow if you'll accept the characterisation that this is an amnesty all but name do you worry about the security of this essentially people with with without without having a face to face interview to resign in this country . well i think there's country. well i think there's a lot of misunderstanding . think lot of misunderstanding. think about this. firstly all of these people will have had into use face to face with the home. they're called screening interviews long before anyone should by now got to stage of having a further interview to interrogate it. the long and detailed in what would be a false silent claim. what the office have set about with a limited number of people from five specific countries where. the situation in those places is such that it's obvious that no

one can be safely returned. there is to say, well, no, we don't have to have a interview about your personal circumstances already that we've interviewed you and determined to accept you from the particular nationality you say and i don't really know why the questionnaire frankly is needed . they ought to be able to get on and decide least these people are obviously staying and the sooner they are out of the ridiculously huge backlog the home office has created , the home office has created, the better for everybody just thing that they should be essentially a bit of a open border between the uk and afghanistan . syria, the uk and afghanistan. syria, libya, eritrea and yemen. because i'm telling you , most because i'm telling you, most brits, that is the last they would want . well it's a bit of would want. well it's a bit of a sort of a strange thing to say, isn't it? there's not an open border between those five places in the uk . well, if you have

in the uk. well, if you have a huge stephen spread korma between those countries , it's in between those countries, it's in here. and by the way we see hardly any of the refugees from any of those places in the world, if you want to see where very large numbers afghans are to be found , you need to go to to be found, you need to go to pakistan and iran, if you want to see, where very large numbers of eritreans and refugees are to be found , go to ethiopia . you be found, go to ethiopia. you can say this about all of those countries. frankly, we see very few of the refugees in the in fact, we see very few of the refugees in anywhere in europe in france. so that's just taken responsibility for some states . responsibility for some states. and we can imagine this a worry . i completely take your point . . i completely take your point. but william and british people are overwhelmingly supportive of taking genuine refugees as it is unfortunate that with the small boats crisis see people skipping the queue people, not knowing who they are in tensions , etc.

who they are in tensions, etc. safety risks and on. what do you to say to that ? well, you're to say to that? well, you're right. i the presently the access to country control by people in charge of smuggling gangs and criminality . and i gangs and criminality. and i don't think we're asking very much in wanting the government to be in charge of that and not of people smugglers . to be in charge of that and not of people smugglers. i think, again , i'm trying to get people again, i'm trying to get people to think about the root causes of these things, both now, i think you can't have you won't have a secure border. and i think it's a reasonable request to have a secure border, a modern democracy. you won't have a secure border until the post—war protocol holes are at. i don't think you can have border sovereignty if they stay basically , the number of people basically, the number of people globally that could qualify to for asylum in britain , you could for asylum in britain, you could get them here. and if smuggling could get them, you would

certainly into hundreds of millions and possibly even a bit over a billion. so i'm afraid you've got to look at the causes . if we don't look at the causes and we haven't got the courage to look at the causes, these things, the system will just get worse and the effect of amnesty that we're looking at now is a consequence of losing control of a border. a member , william a border. a member, william william , the legal the fears william, the legal the fears william, the legal the fears william , i'm very sorry to william, i'm very sorry to interrupt you and to cut this discussion short, but we're getting squeezed. we're getting squeezed. getting squeezed. we're getting squeezed . you very much indeed, squeezed. you very much indeed, both of you, for joining me to discuss that shame we couldn't get into it. speak for longer, but do it again. william but we'll do it again. william clayton and steve valdes simons, plenty more to come this afternoon. go afternoon. but first, let's go to the break .

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gb news tv online and your digital radio . we're told digital radio. we're told constantly how understaffed. the nhs . how is constantly how understaffed. the nhs. how is how we don't have enough doctors, nurses, surgeons, you name it we've got a shortage . a new long awaited a shortage. a new long awaited nhs workforce plan is due to be published next month, though under the plans, the number of medical school will double. thousands more apprentice doctors will be trained on the job if it all goes to plan. of course these plans will come . course these plans will come. the warns it will short of the nhs warns it will short of more than half a million staff without a huge boost training and radical changes to how it recruits frontline frontline health professionals. however the plans may put the nhs on a collision course with chancellor jeremy hunt to insist there is no more money available for additional medical school places . but surely if the nhs is crisis, there should be a if the top priority for the government you would have thought at least well to give his thoughts on these plans. his former adviser, sir david cameron, philip blow

and philip, you very much indeed for joining. and what do you make plans? it does seem make of plans? it does seem extraordinary that when we have acute shortages we can't up the number of immediately. acute shortages we can't up the number of immediately . yeah and number of immediately. yeah and it's worth remembering that dunng it's worth remembering that during covid did expand the number of places and then we tightened them again madly back down to seven and a half thousand and it's just simply not enough for what's happening . the demographic changes in our the ageing popular we dramatic need to increase the number of medical places otherwise we'll go into crisis and crisis is more expensive . the not having more expensive. the not having a crisis if you have a crisis you don't treat people who are chronic level and then they present at a&e and because you failed to treat them more

earlier . failed to treat them more earlier. then the conditions much worse and they cost much more to remedy. so it's a false economy, not the capacity into into health service and i would say that we can't afford not to expand medical training places. i think most would agree and i don't know if you've seen reports , but you can also see reports, but you can also see all of this on tick tock social media constantly . australia media constantly. australia seems to be the hot for our doctors and nurses go to and they're actively trying poach some of our staff. now yes , mean some of our staff. now yes, mean look at the management of the nhs in terms of its staff is pretty insane . we've also pretty insane. we've also introduced rules that in effect charge doctors if they want to continue working for the nhs after . that point of retirement after. that point of retirement , which has robbed the nhs of a huge of highly experienced staff

and those experienced , can teach and those experienced, can teach doctors not to make , which can doctors not to make, which can have those mistakes, can have fatal council crises for patients. so it just seems very peculiar to me that we can't muster the management to retain our staff to remove these penalties that the doctor the doctor and particularly specialists and consultants are experience . and we've got to experience. and we've got to create sort of wide pathways for to return to medicine and practise medicine but real point is to ask why our system in crisis and our system is in crisis and our system is in crisis because it's essentially not organised on a system basis probably because of its development. you have multiple multiple different institutions where nobody in charge. we balkanised our public service

provision and it's impossible to govern it from the centre and practise each separate of the nhs can declare its own rules needs an enormous amount of bureaucracy to work together. i think if we're to produce 21st century health care , we have to century health care, we have to restructure the nhs and i think we should devolve health, we should recreate local health structures that deal with the specific problems that are often to do with the demographics and, the economics and the social history of the place . integrate history of the place. integrate health care at the local level, keep central provision for things like funding of medical research at scale for specialist . but the real key is that doctors , if you forgive the doctors, if you forgive the term, are chronic care is failing the chronic what people are supposed goals stops them going in and we need to push

services out of hospitals where beds are incredibly expensive and we're gassing people with conditions that could have been treated in the community could have been treated at home but essentially because the services they are not and if we're going to rain down people with health and future authority , we've got and future authority, we've got to really localise health in an integrated fashion. there's a single controlling . yeah, i single controlling. yeah, i think you're absolutely right. thank you very much indeed for joining us this on real britain . i think we i think i am coming round to the that we need to actually pay our doctors and nurses more if they're not going to go off and do something else we need them in nhs. we need them in the nhs. i everyone can agree with that. that advisers david that was former advisers david cameron, thank for cameron, philip thank you for his time . you were gb news on tv his time. you were gb news on tv onune his time. you were gb news on tv online on radio. after the break, a new poll found that younger are shunning younger women are shunning marriage institution marriage as the institution outdated or we forgotten outdated or have we forgotten the importance of one of the most essential unions in? we'll discuss that. but first, let's get the news

get a check on the news headunes get a check on the news headlines with bethany elsey . headlines with bethany elsey. emily thank you. good afternoon. it's 333. i'm bethany elsey the gb newsroom irish. leo varadkar says a deal the northern ireland protocol could be made in the next few days , but there's still next few days, but there's still a gap to be closed negotiations. meanwhile the prime minister is facing criticism after proposing a meeting between king and the european commission, president ursula von der leyen was due to continue talks with rishi sunak in person before meeting the king. but her trip cancelled. the shadow northern secretary says it would have had constitute implications . most of constitute implications. most of the 620 constitute implications. most of the g20 have condemned the war in ukraine in a joint except china . russia, who both refused china. russia, who both refused to sign. finance chiefs of the world's two largest economies have been meeting in india and issued a closing statement . the issued a closing statement. the end of the summit. it comes as

ukraine's president says he plans meet china's xi jinping after set out a peace plan for war between ukraine and russia . war between ukraine and russia. volodymyr zelenskyy said would be beneficial for both countries and for security around the world. the number of people who've been killed in the earthquakes that hit turkey and syria has surpassed 50,000 and the united nations . the the united nations. the destruction has left point 5 million people homeless with 500,000 new homes needed . 500,000 new homes needed. president erdogan has pledged rebuild homes within the but exports of expert s are warning authorities to put safety before speed to ensure new buildings can withstand further tremors . can withstand further tremors. and hundreds have gathered in county tyrone to demand an end to violence . northern ireland to violence. northern ireland after the murder of an off duty police . detective chief police. detective chief inspector john caldwell was shot outside sports centre on

wednesday . he outside sports centre on wednesday. he remains in a critical condition. five suspects have been arrested . suspects have been arrested. detectives say the incident is being treated as terror related with the new i.r.a. group main line of inquiry. with the new i.r.a. group main line of inquiry . you're up to on line of inquiry. you're up to on tv, online and deep plus radio. this is gb news. emily be back in just a moment.

we are back. this is real britain on gb news with me. emily carver on your tv, online and digital radio. now scotland, and digital radio. now scotland, a new of snp voters shows finance secretary kate forbes leading the pack when it comes to the leadership race at 28. scottish health secretary humza yousaf is in second and with 20% with ash regan in third with seven. the result as a surprise

to some after , forbes faced to some after, forbes faced criticism from some parts of the media for her views on sex marriage and abortion, which , marriage and abortion, which, based on her christian faith. meanwhile, yusuf, who is a muslim, has defended his decision to miss the scottish vote on gay after facing criticism , saying he had an criticism, saying he had an unavoidable engagement. so who should the next snp leader be and what is going on when comes to this leadership campaign? joining is the political editor of the express online david maddox. david, thank you very indeed for joining maddox. david, thank you very indeed forjoining me this indeed for joining me this afternoon on. so it's been quite afternoon on. so it's been quite a dramatic contest so far. i guess the most well, the most media, most interest the media has, of course, been kate , his has, of course, been kate, his religious views. has, of course, been kate, his religious views . yes the snp are religious views. yes the snp are just finding what the conservatives found out the summer that actually leadership contests rather than being a great advert for the party are a kind of mess where everybody

tries to kill each other off and damage reputation of the political party. and the snp seem have accelerated that process in fine style . the process in fine style. the interesting thing about kate forbes that she was always the strongest candidate was always the most sensible moderate figure in the snp ranks. very bright light indeed and they went after her on her christian values, forgetting that actually of all the parts of the united kingdom, small c, social conservative is very strong and. scotland, not least in the snp, who make up most not maybe not most , but a who make up most not maybe not most, but a great deal of its membership . so i suspect none of membership. so i suspect none of this has harmed her at all. of course the snp paints itself as this very socially liberal and. and woke party. but perhaps some of their support does not take that view at all on many issues. thank you for joining

that view at all on many issues. thank you forjoining us that view at all on many issues. thank you for joining us to austin sheridan, snp, glasgow city councillor . now i've austin sheridan, snp, glasgow city councillor. now i've had a little look at your twitter and it seems like you are supporting humza yousaf for the win for to be the next leader of the. said pay why be the next leader of the. said pay why i'm supporting humza yes is because he's the only candidate that is committed to development of lgbt rights at a party and is the only candidate that said that we stand up for devolution and by section five what of our restaurants so much 7 what of our restaurants so much ? do you agree with the contentious issue of gibraltar and fundamentally we need a first minister and to stand up for scotland's right to legislate and you would expect any side people and to do exactly that that should be the same debate of scotland's national parliament. legislate on devolved matters and then obviously to it push us to independence . but hang on independence. but hang on austin, are you not a bit worried or concerned by the fact

that there are people saying that there are people saying that he ducked the vote on same sex marriage because he was on and pressure from the muslim community his mosque absolutely no mean every single msp and the scottish parliament at the time would have been lobbied by religious groups and other groups as well were against equal marriage. i do believe that humza yousaf under any additional potential it can be up to any other member of the scottish parliament. i think why he was unable to make the vote on that day, but he did support and that, support equal marriage at he has been consistently vocal and support of equal she's been consistently vocal and about the support for gender reform and humza yousaf has said for himself as a minority he understands and all of these things and you are interlinked and not dependent upon each other and it's very important to

secure the rights of minorities and humza yousaf is the only candidate , this leadership candidate, this leadership election who has to that. well, he's obviously convinced to austin david. most scots aren't too keen on the g r bill. no, they're . this is why it didn't they're. this is why it didn't into the big constitutional . into the big constitutional. nicola sturgeon was hoping for when the uk government for the first time in history years ditch powers to block it. in fact though , we're seen as a fact though, we're seen as a safeguard for scotland. but what interests me actually covering this event , interests me actually covering this event, i've been involved in scottish since two thousand and seven so. right back to when the snp won power is i did a straw poll of the unionist politicians from across different parties and to a man and woman they agree with austin. they are totally behind them somehow. they are team humza. they believe that humza it's basically sturgeon lite , a it's basically sturgeon lite, a record of uttering competency in the various ministerial he's had will take the snp down with it.

so sorry, david. sorry, david. i must say course he has denied has denied that he was that he ducked the vote because of pressure from his community. so i must , pressure from his community. so i must, i must say that austin but david, a good point there about humza yousef's record and he doesn't seem to have covered himself in glory in any position that he's been given. now humza yousaf i missed you on some of the rifts in government after work at the nhs has currently for the moment is the only health secretary and whole of the uk that's managed to avoid any strike action as his lack of funding and. although we do recognise that what to be done, we do have best performing and actions and emergencies up to anywhere else and the united kingdom. but one of the things about the graph which raised they are talking about its popularity, scotland, i mean it's not very good. no say not, but it's certainly not losing any says it because the most

recent opinion polls show the snp increasing the snp and greens increasing the number seats the scottish number of seats the scottish parliament of zero parliament supporters of zero and then you've is not against such as the tories which are projected to almost half the msps and then the other party which has been a massive all are so declined in zero msps. so yeah well 111 could argue and of course we don't know we can't see into sturgeon's mind but one could argue that the bill was one of the reasons why for her. a saturday that's all we've time for this afternoon. but thank you very much. both of you for joining me to discuss the it's going to be a leadership going to be a heated leadership campaign i am sure that of course was sheridan who was a glasgow city councillor and david, who is political editor of the online. now, i must read this out, has denied deliberately the vote on deliberately missing the vote on gay marriage in scotland, saying had the pakistan had to meet the pakistan consulate over the case of a scottish citizen on death row. when asked if, he scottish citizen on death row. when asked if , he deliberately when asked if, he deliberately arranged a meeting could

arranged a meeting so he could miss yousef told miss the vote. yousef told reporters that was not done. reporters no that was not done. it unavoidable all meeting it was unavoidable all meeting that was arranged and look know it's been resurrected nine years on. understand why you're on. and i understand why you're asking you've got asking the question. you've got right so, but it's not right to do so, but it's not been raised nine years. it's clearly raised nine years clearly been raised nine years on in the midst of a leadership campaign to destabilise on in the midst of a leadership canleadership to destabilise on in the midst of a leadership canleadership campaign.)ilise on in the midst of a leadership canleadership campaign. well, my leadership campaign. well, there go . now, moving on, there you go. now, moving on, a protest on is currently taking place outside of the birchwood hotel in newquay which is housing asylum seekers. the group were placed in the hotel back in november as a temporary measure . the home measure. the home office. joining us now, i'm pleased to say, is jeff moody, live from newquay . thank you very much newquay. thank you very much indeed. it seemed earlier in the day things were getting a little bit heated . yes certainly things bit heated. yes certainly things have calmed down a little bit now. but yes, things were getting very heated. it looks as though there's been some arrests. i haven't had any official confirmation yet, but some people have been away by police. but not many. there's certainly not been the sort of

level of violence that we saw in a nosy a week or two ago. on one side of the road, we've got the counter—protests now. these are the ones that are in favour of the ones that are in favour of the refugees. if you look at some the signs all refugees welcome. no to racism , to welcome. no to racism, to fascism, spread hope and they have a very clear message . have a very clear message. cornwall is welcoming county. it's a diverse county. it will allow anyone in to come here and they really don't want to see any migrants any refugees badly here. but on this side of the road not so many of them now , road not so many of them now, most of them do seem to have gone home. this is the side of the road that are saying look, we're not being raised assessed. we're not being appalling as the leader of cornwall described them only couple of days ago. what we're doing is we're saying we don't feel safe in our own communities . we feel that

communities. we feel that there's been all sorts of problems . there's been all sorts of problems. the there's been all sorts of problems . the refugees from the problems. the refugees from the various foot hotel alleged witley following women home at night. there's a general feeling that people aren't as safe on the streets. i was hearing from one resident that the migrants have been issued by the government. jim membership for any jim in newquay and according to this lady that i was talking to this lady that i was talking to she's saying that a lot of have been going to the gyms and finding people from the paris one hotel coming into changing rooms and taking of them . as rooms and taking of them. as i say, that's not confirmed that is just what somebody has told me. but there has been bad feeling on both sides. i mean, i times there's been a bit of jokey , if that's the word and jokey, if that's the word and a little bit of joking to and but there has been a lot of tensions in this lot calling that that lot saying we're not we're just looking our communities and back

and forth but overall it has been a peaceful protest today and the police will be very, very pleased that it's certainly hasn't been as bad as it could have been . good to hear they have been. good to hear they have been. good to hear they have been. good to hear they have been peaceful if , if heated have been peaceful if, if heated as well. thank very much indeed, jeff moody down there in reporting live from a protest , reporting live from a protest, an asylum hotel. i imagine there'll be more of that to come. sadly but we are moving on to our final story, the day the latest census figures reveal that more than half of women age four or under a now unmarried, suggesting they are increasingly putting until later putting off marriage until later in life. this figure is even higher among women age 25 to 29, with the number of unmarried women in that age rising from 67% in 2011 to 80% in 2021. so is marriage on the way out? and if it is , is that even if it is, is that even a problem? joining me is the head of the family pollitt, head of family policy at the centre for social justice, chris christie. thank you very much indeed .

thank you very much indeed. joining me this afternoon . now, joining me this afternoon. now, there's been lots of statistics around this week in the papers showing that essentially women are waiting later and later to get married. and just overall people aren't getting married . people aren't getting married. absolutely right. and we should worried by those statistics because what we've also seen this week is that statistics showing how being unmarried or divorced a widower is male health, waiting to see what it does to. female health. but you marriage seems to be protective factor in terms of health. it's a protective factor in terms of mental health. we've seen that the nhs in 2017 found that children of cohabiting parents or of lone parents were more likely to have mental health than children of married

parents. we also that in terms of homeless , in terms of debt, of homeless, in terms of debt, in terms of substance misuse , in terms of substance misuse, marriage acts as a protect factor. so we should encourage women and men to get married. christina, what did you think. there's not more of an effort from government other parties to encourage marriage and sing it's if it does all those good things then surely this should be a priority for the government. all they perhaps of offending those are unmarried . absolutely do you are unmarried. absolutely do you remember? i mean, i'm old enough to rememberjohn major's to remember john major's government to rememberjohn major's government and family values and that went down like a stone . that went down like a stone. first of all, because half the politicians who were encouraging family values were found have been hypocrites themselves , been hypocrites themselves, their own lives. but also because it was felt that it was

so condemning and judges of those heroic single mothers who were able to raise children who, you know, did brilliantly , who you know, did brilliantly, who did well, who were great, upstanding members of society . upstanding members of society. but what we have to remember is that's not easy. and what marriage does is it gives people the burden. the responsibility and the rewards of , the burden. the responsibility and the rewards of, raising children. if i a clever young i'd think let me share family with somebody who also a grown up who can help me support the raising of children and with whom you know quite , frankly, whom you know quite, frankly, i will have a better chance of living. well living healthily and in a stable unit, a stable institution . christina, though

institution. christina, though l, institution. christina, though i, do think that some women well, there are women who would love to get married, but they don't find the man to settle down with, of course. but there are also the fact that a lot of women are doing so much else with lives that it's simply not a priority. is that is that a bad thing ? i think it's bad thing? i think it's a wonderful thing. the more women do better, the more women . do better, the more women. interest themselves . interest themselves. professional paths , times . in professional paths, times. in bits of life , the better. but i bits of life, the better. but i still that marriage has this inherent influence, which in the long term makes for a happier individual. i think what government can do at this stage is change some of their nudging . so for instance we could boost the marriage allowance, which would you know if we can allow

couples to share 100% of personal tax allowance that would leave married couples better off . we could change. i'm better off. we could change. i'm terribly sorry to interrupt you, because we've now got rebecca reed, who just just arrived . reed, who just just arrived. rebecca, i believe we're both in our thirties . why do you think our thirties. why do you think i would i would say the majority , would i would say the majority, vast majority of my friends are the same age are not married. why think that is? i mean, i don't know specifically about your friends. my friends. well, we're all 31 and the majority of my friends are not yet married may be kind of heading towards getting. and i think there's lots of things i think the pandemic changed things because we effectively lost two years of dating and fun. so there's lost time to made up for. and also i think it was just the fact that marriage often means children and children means being unselfish and. therefore understandably, people want to fill the having fun travelling money, all of those things for

us which seems perfectly logical to me. i married at 25, so i am the spectrum, but it's a bit sad because of course women have to worry about their biologic clock. so you can you know, you can get on with your career and everything and then you blink. it's all a bit tricky. i'm not sure. as bad as people say it is . the majority of people i know who've tried. i mean, generally speaking, if you and get pregnant before 35, the vast majority of people will be able to. and there's so many other factors about your health, your weight, smoking, you're drinking. so other stuff drinking. there's so other stuff that plays into your fertility. if want more time, you can if you want more time, you can take care of your body in a way means. and also you can have intervention. there are egg freezing a reason. freezing in this for a reason. there are options and. i think sometimes we get on unwarranted panic about like , oh, my god, panic about like, oh, my god, i'm going to have to have a baby like. will be like. it probably will be absolutely fine. think that is absolutely fine. i think that is definitely completely true. we have many pressures on us as have so many pressures on us as women. have so many pressures on us as women. need be

women. perhaps we need to be a tad more relaxed. but also i think marriage is great. thank you very much. that's all we've got show this got time on the show this afternoon. thank you for joining me. reid christine me. rebecca reid and christine o'donnell, you've watching o'donnell, you've been watching real britain with me. emily carver, thank you very much. your company, i. hello, i'm craig latest craig simon. here is your latest forecast met office. as forecast from the met office. as we the next few days we go through the next few days is remain largely dry and is set to remain largely dry and settled country that's settled the country and that's all courtesy of a huge area of high which is not going high pressure which is not going to go very far over the next few days. it does bring in a fairly cool off the north sea. so if you along the east coast of you live along the east coast of england or down across the engush england or down across the english certainly english channel, certainly wrap up through the up warm as we go through the next for the rest of next few here for the rest of saturday will see lot of the saturday will see a lot of the cloud melt away and that will lead cold and frosty night lead to a cold and frosty night for a of the uk. but along for a lot of the uk. but along the sea will the north sea coast will maintain some rather cloudy skies. odd shower skies. maybe the odd shower here. temperatures here. so temperatures staying above but above freezing here. but elsewhere could see lows falling down minus of minus five. down to minus of minus five. quite few . so going into quite a few. so going into sunday, very little changes that we still maintain rather skies

across northern parts , england, across northern parts, england, eastern scotland to that may well filter its way a little bit southwards as the day goes on. but elsewhere, plenty of sunshine around after that cold and frosty start with the afternoon, perhaps setting the best the sunshine across western scotland , maybe down towards scotland, maybe down towards devon cornwall . then that devon and cornwall. then that sunshine reach sunshine temperatures will reach about degrees. but about eight or nine degrees. but under cloud and also if under the cloud and also if you're exposed to this brisk wind, be feeling a good wind, it will be feeling a good deal colder than that . sunday deal colder than that. sunday evening then sees a repeat performance. a lot of the cloud melting away once again, leading to fairly cold and frosty night. but along parts of the north coast, again, the cloud will continue to come in, keeping things above freezing here. so a cold and frosty to the new working week on monday morning. best of the sunshine as we start the day across western scotland, over ireland, down towards south western parts of the country too. but a nice day goes on this cloud across most central parts of the country will sink its way a bit further southwards, largely dry though. but there

will odd shower will still be the odd shower around. as we go into the around. and as we go into the middle part the week, very little largely dry, little changes. largely dry, often cloudy , but feeling often cloudy, but feeling cold in wind wind .

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